[tense music]
♪
[line trills]
[sirens wailing]
♪
[Narrator] For those most affected by a homicide...
- It just seemed like it was some terrible nightmare
that I couldn't wake up from.
[Narrator] The first 48 is just the beginning.
- With the sheer number of shots,
is that a targeted attack?
- I'm thinking he's trying to kill witnesses.
The missing piece was his name.
[Narrator] This is the story of the fight for justice...
- I knew this was going to be an identification case.
- Nobody saw his face.
[Narrator] In the weeks, months, and years...
- Can we go to a jury,
get a guilty verdict, and get life?
[Narrator] After the first 48.
♪
[Lacy] What's up, guys?
[Lacy] When I got this case,
I had only been a Homicide detective for seven months,
so I was still fairly new to the unit.
There was gonna be a lot of pressure.
But I just trusted my squad mates
to lead me in the right direction
and just trusted myself.
[Narrator] 29-year-old Camron Roesner was born
in Colorado Springs and was a graduate
of the Tulsa Job Corps.
He leaves behind his mother, brother,
a young daughter, and extended family.
[Lacy] How many times was he shot?
One here.
[Narrator] Camron suffered eight gunshot wounds
in his leg, arm and torso.
♪
[Lacy] OK.
[Lacy] All right.
[camera shutter snaps]
- Just by the sheer amount of shell casings
that were found, this was someone
going into this apartment and trying to kill
everyone inside of there.
[radio chatter]
[camera shutter snaps]
[Narrator] The recovered casings are all 9 millimeter.
♪
[Lacy] It looks like he might have been shot in the bed.
[camera shutter snaps]
[Nathan] But why it happened, who was involved,
there's a lot more questions than answers at this point.
So we have a lot of ground work to do.
[Lacy] Was he here by himself when he was shot?
- I was happy that there was witnesses
that I could interview.
I needed to figure out what happened
inside of the apartment so I could start
generating a lead on a potential suspect.
♪
[Narrator] Back at headquarters...
♪
[Lacy] Patricia was Camron's girlfriend.
♪
All right, hon.
I'ma have to ask the difficult questions.
I decided to interview Patricia first
because I assumed that she would have been
the person closest to Camron,
and she would be able to shed some light
as to what was going on around the time that he died.
How long have you known Camron?
- OK. What address do you stay at?
[Narrator] Patricia says she and her daughter
recently moved in with Camron
at their friend Juan's duplex apartment.
[Lacy] So is Juan-- was he friends
with Camron or family members, or--
- OK, so tell me what led up to what happened tonight.
[Patricia] I wanna say probably about 4:00 this evening,
Camron's friend from the apartment complex
had somebody with him.
[Narrator] She says they heard Camron's friend
and another man enter downstairs.
[Lacy] OK. Who are they there to see?
- I have no idea.
Camron went downstairs.
And me and my daughter were upstairs.
♪
Camron comes back upstairs.
Camron just said, Old Boy, he sucker punched him.
I said, have you ever seen that person before?
Who is he?
And he said, I've never seen him.
- At that point, I'm not sure what the motive is.
[Nathan] But whatever that initial argument was about
is likely gonna be the motive for what
happens to Camron that night.
Usually, it's not a coincidence that something
earlier in the day leads to something
that happened that night.
[Lacy] Tell me about the fight that happened.
[Patricia] He just said that Old Boy said to him, why is it,
in the last three places, somebody always there?
♪
And Camron said, what are you talking--that's weird.
You know, if he's going to people's house,
ain't someone supposed to be there?
♪
And then Camron said, I turned, and Old Boy came out of nowhere
and sucker punched me.
And they turned around and walked out.
Camron just brushed it off.
We went about our day.
We went to sleep.
And I woke up to this guy standing there.
He was rummaging through the stuff.
[Narrator] She says the man was looking
through their belongings.
[Patricia] Camron jumped up.
And next thing, Old Boy pistol whipped him.
- With the suspect rummaging around,
it's as if he's looking for something.
So you start thinking burglary, robbery.
But then with the sheer number of shots to Camron,
is that a targeted attack?
[Patricia] Camron's gun was sitting on the edge
of the bed behind Camron.
And Old Boy said, "Oh, yeah?"
And he picked it up.
[Lacy] Picked up Camron's gun? [Patricia] Mm-hmm.
♪
[Lacy] What kind of gun did Camron have?
[Narrator] She says Camron had customized the gun grip
with a blue bandanna inlay.
[Lacy] OK, so what happens after that?
[Patricia] The dude went in the hallway.
And he told Juan, this is for a homage.
Y'all's not paying y'all's dues.
He punched Juan, and Old Boy left.
Me and Juan go into my daughter's room
and check on her.
And we hear him come back.
It seems like seconds in my head.
[Lacy] OK.
[Patricia] And he comes back, and we heard the click, click,
and I hear him cock the gun.
♪
He shot three or four times.
[Narrator] She says the gunfire
came from Camron's room.
[Patricia] And then he came into my daughter's room.
Me and Juan are behind the door.
And he reaches like this,
and I could see the gun and I see his hand.
And he shoots.
♪
Well, me and Juan are basically,
like, shoving the door shut.
[Lacy] OK.
[Patricia] And he ran downstairs.
- When she tells me that he had left and came back
and that's when he shot Camron
and tried to kill her daughter, I'm thinking,
well, he's trying to kill witnesses.
He doesn't wanna be recognized.
Describe everything that this guy looked like.
[Patricia] I couldn't see his face.
He had an orange ski mask on
that only the eyes and the mouth is out of.
He had on some overalls
that were camouflage.
[Lacy] OK.
I'm gonna keep you out here.
I'm gonna talk to your daughter.
♪
[Narrator] Three hours in...
- Walking into any interview with a child is difficult,
and there's really no soft approach
you can take for someone who's been through
what her daughter had been through.
OK, sweetie.
♪
Tell me about what happened today.
♪
[Nathan] The witnesses were
in different areas of the apartment.
They could watch the same event
and all describe it somewhat differently.
So we're gonna get pieces of the story from each one
and put them together.
[Nathan] The suspect's calling Juan by name,
asking for a phone.
It makes it very clear there's some prior interaction, likely.
And it just gives that confidence that
Juan's going to know who this is.
[Narrator] Patricia's daughter says moments later,
Juan and her mom came rushing in.
♪
- I think he fired until he ran out of bullets,
and he had no more.
And we're very fortunate that Patricia's daughter
is still here.
OK.
Have you seen this guy ever before?
♪
[Lacy] Did you see Camron with a gun tonight?
[Lacy] OK.
[Narrator] She says when the suspect came back to her room,
the gun he fired looked like Camron's.
- That made me believe that the suspect had stolen
Camron's gun from him and possibly
killed him with his own gun.
I definitely wanted to find that gun
because if I can find the weapon, then hopefully,
I can find the suspect.
[Narrator] Before Lansdown could try to get
more information from Camron's roommate, Juan...
[phone rings] [Lacy] Hang on.
Hello?
I was called by a patrol officer who told me that
they were hearing a possible street name
of Porkchop for the suspect.
- He was someone who had been causing problems
in the complex, so there's a good possibility
that Porkchop is gonna be related to this investigation.
- The suspect left the apartment,
and then he came back, and he killed Camron,
and he tried to kill a child.
We knew that we needed to get him in custody
as quickly as possible.
[dramatic music]
♪
[somber music]
♪
[Christina] This is Camron's final resting place.
My dad is buried over in that area
with my grandparents on the Roesner side.
I have a sister buried here.
It gives me peace knowing that he's surrounded by family.
Camron was my oldest nephew.
He was three weeks older than my first child.
So my life was changing and growing,
and he was coming into the world in the same process.
He was just a bundle of joy
the minute he came into my life.
Camron liked to make people laugh.
He did not like to see people down.
That night, my phone rang at 9:05 p.m.
My sister called me to tell me that Camron had been murdered.
♪
That night was hell.
♪
He was only 29 years old.
♪
He was robbed.
He was robbed from getting to see his daughter
walk across the graduation stage.
He was robbed from
getting to give her away at her own wedding.
And Patricia's daughter,
Camron was a best friend to her.
He made sure that she had someone that she could
confide in, no matter what it was.
She was devastated. There's no closure.
♪
There is no goodbye.
It just seemed like it was some terrible nightmare
that I couldn't wake up from.
♪
[suspenseful music]
♪
[Lacy] I don't know the first name of who Porkchop is.
[Narrator] Four hours into the investigation...
[Lacy] I have a street name, which is good.
However, I was not able to identify this person.
So now, moving forward,
I'm going to ask witnesses about Porkchop.
All right, let's go talk to Juan.
♪
Tell me about what happened tonight.
- Where are you at in the house when this happens?
- And so what happened next?
- You said Bug? Is that her daughter?
- OK.
And what happened after Camron got shot?
[Nathan] Juan was interesting.
He was very calm, almost nonchalant.
It's evident that he's not just volunteering information,
just giving the bare minimum.
- Listen, man, your friend got killed tonight.
[Lacy] I need to freaking know everything that happened
and what this guy said to you.
♪
[Lacy] Why?
[Lacy] Juan, look at me. [Linda] Juan, sit up.
[Lacy] You know exactly why he was at your apartment today.
[Lacy] Juan's demeanor really frustrated me.
I felt like I was dragging information from him
and having to ask him questions
I should not have had to ask,
almost like I was wasting his time.
I don't know if it was because he didn't want to be involved
or if he was scared as well.
What did you owe him?
- Because why?
- I think you could infer just from his reluctance
to share that, that maybe there's an allegation that
he's responsible for that phone going missing
and doesn't want to take the blame for what happened.
- Now we're getting somewhere, and I feel like
I'm pulling information out of you
when your friend's the one that died.
♪
Who's Porkchop?
Porkchop. I need to know who he is.
♪
- How do you know that this Porkchop guy
has shot Camron tonight?
[Lacy] So you recognize his voice?
[Lacy] What does he look like?
- All right. And does he have any tattoos?
- What's it look like?
♪
[Lacy] OK, tell me about the fight
that Camron got in earlier today.
[Lacy] OK, so he actually told you that Porkchop
was the one who punched him?
[Narrator] Juan tells detectives the name
of Camron's friend from the complex
who brought Porkchop to the apartment that afternoon.
- OK.
♪
It was very important for me to find this friend
just because I knew that there was a very high likelihood
that that person could tell me who Porkchop was.
♪
- Here's the tenant list.
[Narrator] The team looks up the address
for Camron's friend.
- Let's do it.
All right.
[Linda] Gotta make sure that you're ready
to pick up Porkchop because that may be where he's at.
♪
[Narrator] The team heads back to the complex.
♪
[Officer] Well, if you two want
to take Lacy in the front, Linda and I'll go to the back.
[Lacy] I knew that Porkchop was incredibly dangerous,
so I absolutely do not think
that Porkchop would have hesitated
to shoot at law enforcement.
[dramatic music]
♪
[knocking]
[Officer] Tulsa Police.
- When we went back to the apartment complex
to try to find Camron's friend,
there was a very high likelihood that Porkchop
could actually be at the apartment.
And there's a very high level of danger there,
so we all were ready to go.
I had my vest on.
[door squeaks open]
♪
What's up, man?
Can you show me your hands, make sure you don't have a gun?
Thank you.
You're not in trouble, but we gotta talk.
[Narrator] Seven hours in, the team transports
Camron's friend to headquarters.
- The missing piece to finding and stopping Porkchop
was his government name.
♪
Camron was killed today.
He was murdered tonight, and I think you know why.
I know that you were there earlier today.
So tell me what happened.
♪
[Lacy] So who's the guy?
[Lacy] You said he was just walking around
in the apartment complex?
♪
- He describes some interactions between Porkchop
and other residents where Porkchop
is just flying off the handle.
So it's a very volatile situation.
[Narrator] The friend says they left Camron's
and went back to his own apartment.
- You see him go to anybody's place at all?
- Camron, he's dead.
You're saying he's your best friend.
Help me out a little bit here.
I need to know everything you know about this guy.
- He used your phone to call someone.
- Who did he call?
- OK, I need to get that phone number.
[Narrator] Camron's friend agrees to turn over his phone.
[Lacy] Give me just a minute.
♪
I wanted to get that phone number so that I could put it
in our police database to figure out an identity
of the person that he called.
They 100% were going to know who he was.
♪
Can you run a phone number for me, please?
[Narrator] Sergeant Schilling runs the number
Porkchop called from the friend's phone.
♪
[Lacy] I need to figure out who this chick is.
Please let this be gold.
[Narrator] They get the name of a woman.
- How recent is that?
This girl likely is not gonna have this phone number anymore.
[Lacy] I was not surprised
that he was not able to identify the person
at the end of that phone number.
But I was still hoping that some way, somehow,
we would figure out who it was.
♪
[Narrator] The next day...
[Brandon] Come here, Lacy.
- So this girl is actually a really good witness.
I went back to the complex
because I wanted to see things in the daytime.
And I found a new witness who told me that Porkchop
had actually been at the apartment that she was at
the day prior to Camron getting murdered.
She said this guy shows up.
He was just extremely disrespectful,
was talking about how he's gonna straighten everybody up.
He was extremely aggressive.
He had actually punched someone.
He had pistol whipped someone, and so there was at least
two other victims of Porkchop within the 24 hours
that led up to Camron being murdered.
She described what his tattoo looked like
on the side of his neck.
Said it looked like that.
♪
- It was kind of a unique, just weird pattern,
but large and very identifiable.
That is a great piece of information.
[Lacy] I mean, those tattoos and that street name,
it's just odd that nobody knows who this guy is.
[Nathan] But we need his name.
We can't just get an arrest warrant for Porkchop.
♪
[Narrator] 34 hours in...
- When we have a phone number that we don't know
who actually owns it,
kind of a last resort is just calling it.
[line trills]
- Hi, can I speak to [...] please?
♪
[line beeps]
And they hung up.
[Nathan] It's very frustrating.
You're just looking for that one piece,
and you keep hitting dead ends and roadblocks.
So something else I just thought of that
we didn't check the jail website,
like, the jail calls.
[Lacy] That's a good idea.
Run these phone numbers now.
[Nathan] The jail database,
it's gonna tell you who's calling that number
because they're incarcerated, and we have their name.
- OK, so somebody by the name of Johnny Clark,
inmate Johnny Clark, made four phone calls
to this phone number on--
looks like today.
[Narrator] 23-year-old Johnny Clark was booked
into Sapulpa Jail for possession of a firearm
after police responded to a call
of vandalism at a local hotel.
[Lacy] Seven hours after the murder.
♪
Holy [bleep].
When I saw his picture, I knew immediately
that that's who the suspect was.
♪
[dramatic music]
♪
[Nathan] Is that your guy?
- When I saw the booking photo, I was elated.
I saw the huge tattoo on the left side of his neck.
I saw the teardrop tattoo.
Possession of a firearm.
- All right, we've got Johnny Lee Clark.
I now had a name to someone that I believe was Porkchop,
and I was really happy that he was already in jail.
He could not hurt anybody else.
Now I wanted him to talk.
♪
[Narrator] 35 hours in,
Lansdown has Johnny Clark transported to Homicide.
[Lacy] I was hoping that I would get a confession.
I was hoping that, at the very least,
I could put him at the scene.
All right, so tell me why you were arrested.
[Lacy] OK, for what, though?
- It can be very difficult
when you're interviewing a suspect,
trying to know when to apply pressure or release.
He's got quite a few things that he's throwing out there
that Lacy has to kind of work her way through
to get to the goal line.
[Lacy] You had said you were on
seven different kinds of drugs.
- So what happened that got you to that point, John?
- OK.
[Narrator] Johnny says he served five years for robbery.
- When Johnny told me that his mother had kicked him out
because he wouldn't take his pills,
I kind of figured there was some issues going on there,
whether it was, like, mental health issues or anger issues.
However, he'd been in jail for over 24 hours,
so I did not believe that he was still currently high.
OK, so you were staying at Parkview?
- OK.
Did you get into it yourself with anybody out there?
[Lacy] OK, so here's what we're gonna get at.
There was a murder out there Saturday night.
♪
The guy that was murdered is named Camron.
♪
Does that name ring a bell to you?
♪
[Lacy] From everyone that I have talked to,
I have been told that you were the one
who went in that apartment.
[Nathan] Johnny's got a lot of
"I don't remember, I don't remember,"
and then when confronted with different pieces of evidence,
he'll come up with an excuse on why something happened.
[Lacy] Why would people who were also there
when this guy got killed, why would they be telling me
that you're the one that did that?
- Listen, I'm not trying to trick you into saying anything.
Have I asked you any difficult questions here?
- I know you're upset, but I--
[crying]
- Do you need some water?
Let me get you some water.
♪
I wanted to leave the room to kind of regroup
with the other detectives and figure out
where to go from there.
♪
- The Sapulpa guy email you the reports or anything?
[Lacy] Not yet.
Johnny had been arrested with two guns.
I'll probably just call and ask what that gun is.
I knew that I was looking for a gun
with a blue bandanna on the grip of it.
And if I can tie Johnny Clark to that gun,
that's huge for us.
[line trills]
[Officer] Hello?
[Lacy] I think Sapulpa arrested
one of my homicide suspects last night,
and I was wondering if you could tell me
what gun they booked in.
[Officer] OK, what's your guy's name?
- Johnny Lee Clark.
[Officer] I just actually checked that
into my property room.
We arrested a guy and took two guns.
Let's see.
One of them is a starter pistol.
One of them is a 9-millimeter
Smith and Wesson semi-automatic.
- What's the grip look like?
[Officer] It's got a funky--
you want me to take a picture of it and send it to you?
- Yes, please.
[Nathan] When she says that the gun's got a funky grip,
you start getting this warm, fuzzy feeling inside.
[phone chimes]
♪
- [chuckles] That's my victim's gun.
That directly tied Johnny Clark to Camron and the murder.
♪
[dramatic music]
♪
[Lacy] I don't think it was a coincidence
that Johnny had that gun.
I was very confident that when ballistics came back
that it was most likely going to be the murder weapon.
[Nathan] And it just really
solidifies the information that you were told.
♪
[Narrator] 36 hours into the investigation...
[Brandon] You got everything that you need.
[Lacy] Yeah. - You have got enough
to charge this man with first-degree murder.
- The confession would be great.
But at the end of the day, I still had the case.
[Nathan] At this point, we want the why.
Why did this happen?
And Johnny's the only one that can tell us that.
♪
- Can I show you a picture of something?
- What is this?
[Lacy] OK.
You recognize that gun?
[Lacy] That's the gun that Sapulpa found.
- Look at me.
♪
That's Camron's gun.
♪
How did Camron's gun end up with you?
♪
- When that gun is tested, the one that was found,
is it gonna have your DNA on it?
- He tried to separate himself from the guns,
and then when I flat-out asked him
if his DNA was gonna be on the gun,
he then came up with a story of, well, yeah,
because I tried to buy it from him, you know, earlier that day.
And I was like, yeah, I don't believe that story.
- He just kept getting frustrated.
I think it's because he could not come up with any more lies.
He's dead.
And I think that you seem upset about that.
But I will tell you that the facts and the evidence
show that you killed Camron.
That's why I'm asking you, why?
You were high. You went over--
♪
[Lacy] All right.
♪
[Narrator] Johnny Lee Clark is charged
with first-degree murder.
[Lacy] I didn't get any kind of feeling
that he was remorseful about what happened.
I got the feeling that he was upset
because he thought his life was over.
I was confident about this case going to court.
[Nathan] We had everything we needed
for a strong prosecution's case--
good eyewitnesses, the murder weapon,
suspect arrested with the murder weapon.
And at the same time, there's always those thoughts.
Where could this unravel?
♪
[Katie] When I got the case,
my biggest thought was, oh, my gosh,
this is someone who really
meant to kill people that night.
We had a completed robbery, and then he comes back
and he tries to take care of the witnesses.
This case is about Camron.
This case is about Patricia.
This case is about Patricia's daughter.
This case is about Juan.
You can never tell a victim's family
that you're 100% confident
that you'll be able to convict the defendant.
But we're going to do everything we possibly can
to ensure that we get justice.
Prepping for trial, I knew the case was really strong.
The fact that we found the defendant
with the murder weapon-- even bigger than that,
he had hidden it in an air conditioner.
I mean, that's a huge indication
of consciousness of guilt.
However, a concern I had was,
I knew this was going to be an identification case.
We were going to need to link Johnny Clark
to the person that was in the apartment that night.
[Brian] When I first read the reports for Johnny's case,
I wasn't terribly worried about eyewitnesses ID'ing Johnny.
Johnny was represented by several lawyers in our office
in the Tulsa County Public Defender's Office,
including myself.
The state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt
every element of every crime the defendant is charged with.
[Erik] The person who fired that gun
was partially wearing a ski mask,
so all you could see were his mouth and his eyes.
And so victims are left to make an ID through voice
or through the small slits that are in the ski mask.
- The police had done a lineup,
and they had showed the lineup to everyone
that was in the apartment that evening--
Patricia, Patricia's daughter, and Juan.
- All right, so I'm gonna show you a series of photos.
- There's six photographs in here.
It's just as important to clear innocent persons
from suspicion as to identify guilty parties, OK?
The person who committed the crime
may or may not be in the set of photographs being presented.
♪
- This looks like the person, Porkchop,
but his hair was longer.
I seen the back side of him.
- Patricia makes a partial ID.
- I could say about 65%, 75% sure.
- OK.
[Brian] Nobody saw his face.
His identification came up from a witness
from earlier in the day.
- I thought that that was going to be
the defense's biggest strategy, basically saying,
we don't know for sure that this was Johnny Clark.
[Erik] That could be a real problem.
If you can't say that's the guy,
you're over and you're done with.
[dramatic music]
♪
[Erik] If we can't get a person identifying Johnny
in the apartment, we're gonna have to link it up
with circumstantial evidence.
[Narrator] As the DA's office prepares their case...
[Katie] I knew that one of my big witnesses
was going to be Camron's friend.
He had been walking around with Johnny Clark that day.
He was helping him sell marijuana.
And the defendant used his phone.
And that was one way we were able to link up
the actual name, Johnny Clark, to this person
that was in the apartment during the murder.
♪
[Erik] Johnny didn't have a mask on
when he was interacting with Camron's friend,
and so it was a really good idea
to have Camron's friend make a positive ID.
- But I was never able to locate Camron's friend
in jury trial preparation.
- When someone is kind of involved in crime,
the last thing they want to do is tell against another person
who commits a crime.
He was assisting Johnny selling drugs,
so his level of cooperation is gonna be a concern.
[Narrator] And three months after the preliminary hearing,
a major setback.
[Katie] Before trial, Juan, unfortunately,
died in a tragic accident.
I thought it was really sad.
And Juan was absolutely an important witness.
He's someone who was there
when both the robbery and the homicide happened.
- Now we lose his voice in this entire case.
You can't use a witness's recorded statement
to police during the trial.
The defense and the defendant
have a constitutional right to confront their witnesses,
so that's a challenge.
[Katie] When you know you're gonna have witness issues,
you look to the other evidence to make your case other ways.
- The strength of the State's case
was the murder weapon was found with Johnny.
Johnny's statement did not help him either.
He placed himself at the murder scene.
But Johnny was quite intoxicated
when he was arrested, so there was
a possible voluntary intoxication defense.
[Erik] That was gonna be an issue in this case.
Voluntary intoxication removes
the necessary deliberateness for first-degree murder.
They would easily be able to say to a jury,
my client told you he had taken multiple drugs.
- And if we don't have the state of mind that's required,
all we're left is manslaughter in the first degree.
[Brian] Manslaughter means
someone is overcome with passion.
Johnny went into that apartment
with a starter pistol.
A starter pistol does not fire a projectile.
He could not have killed anybody.
I believe Johnny went to threaten somebody
into giving up whatever money
or whatever drugs they happened to have.
But it was more of a crime of unfortunate opportunity
that Johnny found a functioning firearm that day.
[Erik] But the witnesses at the scene
indicated that deliberateness.
[Patricia] He comes back, and we heard the click, click.
He shot three or four times.
- Johnny completed the robbery.
He was able to leave the apartment.
And then he came back and he tries to eliminate witnesses.
To me, that is someone who is completely self-interested
and is a dangerous human being.
♪
[Narrator] Before the trial is set to begin...
[Katie] We were scheduled for a hearing,
and the defense came to me and asked
if I would consider a number.
[Brian] The closer we got to trial,
it became clear to both of us
that the facts of this case were insurmountable.
The State wanted life in prison for murder.
Johnny was very young to spend the rest of his life in prison.
♪
- There is a valid back and forth
that we have with ourselves.
Can we go to a jury and, with some level of certainty,
get a guilty verdict and get life?
- You never know what could happen during trial.
Nothing is guaranteed.
[Erik] I would much rather a defendant
get a stiff term in prison than gambling at trial
and risking him walking out of the courtroom a free man.
[Narrator] The State decides to accept Johnny's plea.
♪
- Though we don't exchange life for a life,
he is going to have to spend much,
if not the rest of his life, behind bars.
[Lacy] Your home is supposed to be the safest place.
Johnny invaded that, and he completely disrupted
the lives of Camron's family and even Patricia's daughter,
Patricia herself.
- The ripple effect of a homicide is immense.
Their families are also victims.
[somber music]
[Christina] It doesn't matter how many years goes by.
Nobody will ever fill that void.
Nobody can ever make it right.
Camron used to ride his bikes on these streets.
He used to run around with all his friends
in high school on these streets.
Being here makes me feel very close to Camron.
It's a wonderful feeling, getting to see the people
that he knew and grew up with.
They call me Aunt Chris, just like Camron.
I hear it in my head every day.
As soon as he would come in the house,
that would be what I would hear.
Yo, Aunt Chris, what's going on?
Just to interact with him was a good vibe.
♪
Camron was a human being.
People are gonna forget about him
because he's not in their everyday life.
But that little girl will never forget about her father.
[sniffles]
Anytime I see her, I make sure I tell her
that she looks like her daddy
because I don't want her to forget.
I'm grateful that I had the life that I had with Camron.
I believe he's with me every day.
I believe he's with his daughter every day.
And I think that's why I can't get,
"Yo, Aunt Chris" out of my mind.
♪