1 00:00:10,367 --> 00:00:12,233 [Amy] There's this thing, like, running. 2 00:00:13,266 --> 00:00:16,500 If it got in, it would probably just kill everybody. 3 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:18,066 She thinks it's the devil. 4 00:00:19,266 --> 00:00:22,600 [Amy] Hands come up from under the bed. 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,367 It has its hooks in them. 6 00:00:24,367 --> 00:00:28,533 It was just a black shadow with sharp claws. 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,000 What do we know about the victim? 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,367 The straps for her mail pack were wrapped tightly around her neck. 9 00:00:36,367 --> 00:00:38,533 If I could see her, I'd kick her ass. 10 00:00:38,533 --> 00:00:42,000 She can't get my child. I'd die for him. 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,700 [Amy] I just keep hearing, "It's a beast. 12 00:00:44,700 --> 00:00:46,367 It's a beast." 13 00:01:01,700 --> 00:01:03,166 Weird. 14 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:07,734 I just saw some dead girl crawling around out here. 15 00:01:09,066 --> 00:01:10,266 She can't walk, 16 00:01:10,266 --> 00:01:14,233 but she can go on her hands and knees and move. 17 00:01:15,166 --> 00:01:17,734 And when she does, she can go [bleep] fast. 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,600 She, like, does make a weird noise, 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,166 and it's like a growl. 20 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:26,700 She's aggressive. 21 00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:30,000 I think that after her death, she got nuts. 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,000 I think that after her death, she got nuts. 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,100 And I see her over here on the fence, like, 24 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:37,533 climbing it like an animal. 25 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:40,800 [Amy speaking] 26 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,634 I'm here in the small town of Madison, Florida. 27 00:01:53,634 --> 00:01:56,266 It's about an hour outside of Tallahassee. 28 00:01:56,266 --> 00:01:58,867 I got a desperate call from a mother named Annie. 29 00:01:58,867 --> 00:02:00,000 She sounds bad. 30 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:00,367 She sounds bad. 31 00:02:00,367 --> 00:02:02,100 Says she's convinced something in the house 32 00:02:02,100 --> 00:02:03,333 is trying to kill her family. 33 00:02:04,533 --> 00:02:06,867 Annie says we're her last hope. 34 00:02:06,867 --> 00:02:09,734 So Amy and I have to find a way to help this family out. 35 00:02:14,367 --> 00:02:16,467 So, Annie, you've got a beautiful spot here. 36 00:02:16,467 --> 00:02:17,700 But when we spoke on the phone, 37 00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:19,266 you sounded pretty frightened. 38 00:02:19,266 --> 00:02:21,600 So what's it like living in this place? 39 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,800 It's hell. 40 00:02:23,634 --> 00:02:25,367 That simple, right? 41 00:02:25,367 --> 00:02:27,533 We're getting attacked by something we can't see. 42 00:02:29,467 --> 00:02:30,000 And I believe that it's something 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,367 And I believe that it's something 44 00:02:31,367 --> 00:02:34,867 that's just trying to pick us off one at a time. 45 00:02:34,867 --> 00:02:36,500 How long has this been going on? 46 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:38,867 We've been living here now for 11 years. 47 00:02:38,867 --> 00:02:39,967 Okay. 48 00:02:39,967 --> 00:02:44,367 And when we first moved in, everything was great. 49 00:02:44,367 --> 00:02:46,000 And then in the last few years, 50 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,700 it has just exploded. 51 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:49,734 Did anything change? 52 00:02:49,734 --> 00:02:51,367 We started working on the house. 53 00:02:51,367 --> 00:02:52,634 Okay. 54 00:02:52,634 --> 00:02:54,867 Why don't you guys just pack up and get the hell out of here? 55 00:02:54,867 --> 00:02:57,266 We put everything into this house. 56 00:02:57,266 --> 00:02:58,734 Okay. 57 00:02:58,734 --> 00:03:00,000 I mean, we have put blood, sweat and tears, 58 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,967 I mean, we have put blood, sweat and tears, 59 00:03:00,967 --> 00:03:03,000 and I'm going to fight for what's mine. 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,500 And who all lives in the house? 61 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:05,800 Let's get to the basics here. 62 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,500 Myself, my mother-in-law Sandy... 63 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:11,600 Okay. 64 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,000 My husband Harry, and my son Tristan. 65 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,266 He's 11. 66 00:03:15,266 --> 00:03:17,367 Logan, my oldest son. 67 00:03:17,367 --> 00:03:18,467 He's 22. 68 00:03:18,467 --> 00:03:20,500 He just moved out a few weeks ago. 69 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:22,367 Okay, let's talk about your youngest. 70 00:03:22,367 --> 00:03:24,700 So how's it affecting him? What are you seeing? 71 00:03:24,700 --> 00:03:27,600 Tristan has been sleeping on the couch. 72 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,533 He refuses to sleep in his room. 73 00:03:29,533 --> 00:03:30,000 And a few nights ago, 74 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,367 And a few nights ago, 75 00:03:31,367 --> 00:03:33,867 he had something that scared him. 76 00:03:33,867 --> 00:03:35,700 And he has been in my bed 77 00:03:35,700 --> 00:03:38,266 ever since with my husband and I. 78 00:03:38,266 --> 00:03:40,000 So, Annie, do me a favor and give me a list 79 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,600 of what you guys are experiencing. 80 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,533 We have mysterious sounds and noises. 81 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:48,433 Bad health for numerous people. 82 00:03:49,266 --> 00:03:51,066 We've been seeing shadow figures. 83 00:03:52,367 --> 00:03:56,233 And it's come to the point that it's physically violent. 84 00:03:58,066 --> 00:03:59,100 How is all this affecting 85 00:03:59,100 --> 00:04:00,000 your relationship with your husband? 86 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,266 your relationship with your husband? 87 00:04:01,266 --> 00:04:02,867 My husband's not sleeping. 88 00:04:02,867 --> 00:04:04,967 It's causing chaos between me and him. 89 00:04:04,967 --> 00:04:07,500 When we leave this house, we're like lovebirds, 90 00:04:07,500 --> 00:04:09,100 like we just got married again. 91 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:12,266 And when I get closer to home, 92 00:04:12,266 --> 00:04:15,266 I become a raging bitch. 93 00:04:15,266 --> 00:04:16,367 [Steve] Hmm. 94 00:04:16,367 --> 00:04:18,100 -How are you dealing with it? -Not well. 95 00:04:19,700 --> 00:04:21,333 I'm barely holding it together. 96 00:04:23,734 --> 00:04:25,166 And it's so hard because 97 00:04:25,166 --> 00:04:28,000 it's something I can't fight and I can't fix it. 98 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 I'm the caretaker, and I can't fight this. 99 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,233 I'm the caretaker, and I can't fight this. 100 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:39,333 I'm seeing a crying grandma. 101 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,900 She has very soft, fine white hair. 102 00:04:46,467 --> 00:04:51,467 So that little old lady, she likes to sit on the couch. 103 00:04:51,467 --> 00:04:54,166 Living people have felt her. 104 00:04:55,367 --> 00:04:58,166 A living person sitting on the couch and like 105 00:04:58,166 --> 00:05:00,000 catching her out of the corner of their eyes, 106 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,967 catching her out of the corner of their eyes, 107 00:05:00,967 --> 00:05:03,166 seeing like, this movement, 108 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:04,467 it's weird though 109 00:05:04,467 --> 00:05:07,166 because even if people are around, 110 00:05:07,166 --> 00:05:08,467 she's not seeing them. 111 00:05:08,467 --> 00:05:12,166 She's like, oblivious to, like, the living. 112 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,600 But the living are having experiences with her. 113 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,634 They are feeling her in the room. 114 00:05:20,734 --> 00:05:26,066 She has moved through them, so they would feel like, 115 00:05:26,066 --> 00:05:28,000 "Oh, my God, like somebody just walked through me," 116 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,734 and like all the hairs are standing up 117 00:05:29,734 --> 00:05:30,000 and they feel all weird and dizzy. 118 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,634 and they feel all weird and dizzy. 119 00:05:31,634 --> 00:05:33,166 -You know what I mean? -Mm-hmm. 120 00:05:33,166 --> 00:05:34,634 Spooky, scary [bleep]. 121 00:05:41,266 --> 00:05:43,367 All right, so what's going on? 122 00:05:43,367 --> 00:05:44,533 I hear footsteps. 123 00:05:44,533 --> 00:05:46,100 Sounds like running in the hallway. 124 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:48,700 And when I turn and I look, 125 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:51,266 I see the boys, my kids, 126 00:05:51,266 --> 00:05:54,600 running down the hallway, and then I go behind them 127 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,100 'cause we're not supposed to be running in the house. 128 00:05:57,100 --> 00:05:58,700 And they're gaming. 129 00:05:58,700 --> 00:06:00,000 And I'm like, 130 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,367 And I'm like, 131 00:06:00,367 --> 00:06:01,867 "Why were y'all just running in the house?" 132 00:06:01,867 --> 00:06:03,100 "We weren't." 133 00:06:03,100 --> 00:06:04,166 Are you actually seeing them 134 00:06:04,166 --> 00:06:05,700 or you're seeing what you think is them like? 135 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:07,367 I mean, when I say, it looks like a shadow of them. 136 00:06:07,367 --> 00:06:10,000 It looks almost just like my children. 137 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,266 It's like a doppelganger? 138 00:06:11,266 --> 00:06:12,734 Basically. Yes. 139 00:06:12,734 --> 00:06:14,467 -That's weird. -Yeah. 140 00:06:14,467 --> 00:06:16,166 It makes me uneasy thinking that something else 141 00:06:16,166 --> 00:06:18,166 is in that room with my kids. 142 00:06:18,166 --> 00:06:19,867 All right, so anything else you can tell me? 143 00:06:19,867 --> 00:06:22,700 I woke up one morning and I discovered 144 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:24,600 some marks on my hand, 145 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,500 and they looked like bite marks. 146 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:28,266 What kind of bite marks are we talking about? 147 00:06:28,266 --> 00:06:30,000 They were, like, in the shape of a triangle. 148 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:30,333 They were, like, in the shape of a triangle. 149 00:06:32,467 --> 00:06:35,700 I mean, this looks pretty vicious. 150 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:38,266 Anything that you could have banged against 151 00:06:38,266 --> 00:06:40,066 or something sharp that could have did this 152 00:06:40,066 --> 00:06:41,734 -while you were sleeping? -No, sir. 153 00:06:41,734 --> 00:06:43,700 And what do you think whatever's here wants? 154 00:06:43,700 --> 00:06:46,000 Honestly, Steve, I think they want to kill us. 155 00:06:49,166 --> 00:06:50,266 Okay. 156 00:06:50,266 --> 00:06:53,266 Dead girl from outside does come in here. 157 00:06:53,266 --> 00:06:55,367 She doesn't want me back here. 158 00:06:55,367 --> 00:06:57,634 She mostly hangs out on the ceilings. 159 00:06:57,634 --> 00:06:59,700 She likes to run back and forth there. 160 00:06:59,700 --> 00:07:00,000 She just thinks that's fun. 161 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,867 She just thinks that's fun. 162 00:07:01,867 --> 00:07:04,333 She's losing her [bleep] mind right now. 163 00:07:05,467 --> 00:07:07,266 So this is her favorite area. 164 00:07:07,266 --> 00:07:08,467 She lives in here. 165 00:07:08,467 --> 00:07:11,266 So she's dropping down on the floor. 166 00:07:11,266 --> 00:07:12,600 She can go under the bed. 167 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,000 She can go in the closet. 168 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:16,533 I think she's hurting somebody in here. 169 00:07:17,734 --> 00:07:19,233 So she's physical. 170 00:07:20,867 --> 00:07:23,500 So person's laying here. 171 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:27,367 I see her hands come up from under, like, the bed. 172 00:07:27,367 --> 00:07:29,700 And then she's grabbing the toes and squeezing them 173 00:07:29,700 --> 00:07:30,000 like she wants to pop them. 174 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,233 like she wants to pop them. 175 00:07:32,367 --> 00:07:35,100 I would not be surprised that this person is waking up 176 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:38,333 with bruises and, like, [bleep] pain. 177 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,266 [Steve] Annie told me her mother-in-law, Sandy, 178 00:07:47,266 --> 00:07:48,734 is terrified of living here. 179 00:07:48,734 --> 00:07:50,734 Poor woman is legally blind and deaf. 180 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:53,634 So with Annie help, I'm going to find out 181 00:07:53,634 --> 00:07:54,900 what she's experiencing. 182 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,634 She said that she's seen dark shadow figures 183 00:07:58,634 --> 00:07:59,734 throughout the house. 184 00:07:59,734 --> 00:08:00,000 Has she ever described what they look like to you? 185 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,367 Has she ever described what they look like to you? 186 00:08:02,367 --> 00:08:03,867 [Sandy speaking] 187 00:08:03,867 --> 00:08:06,100 A woman? 188 00:08:06,100 --> 00:08:08,367 Did she say anything else to you about what's going on? 189 00:08:08,367 --> 00:08:11,166 She'll talk to something up in the corner of the room. 190 00:08:11,166 --> 00:08:15,266 It's the corner over top of her door in her bedroom. 191 00:08:15,266 --> 00:08:19,100 And then she will lose it. 192 00:08:19,100 --> 00:08:24,500 She screams that somebody is pointing a gun at her 193 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:26,066 and is going to shoot her. 194 00:08:27,266 --> 00:08:29,166 Is she scared, does she want to get out of here? 195 00:08:29,166 --> 00:08:30,000 Yeah. 196 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,700 Yeah. 197 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:33,367 She ever mentioned to you what she thinks might be here? 198 00:08:33,367 --> 00:08:35,800 She said that she thinks it's the devil. 199 00:08:40,734 --> 00:08:44,100 Dead girl, she likes to hurt people. 200 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:46,000 She just likes to torture them. 201 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,467 It's fun for her. 202 00:08:47,467 --> 00:08:48,867 Like, I'm seeing, like, 203 00:08:48,867 --> 00:08:52,266 a woman, I think, getting her hair pulled. 204 00:08:52,266 --> 00:08:53,467 The dead chick. 205 00:08:53,467 --> 00:08:56,233 She's trying to drag this person out of bed. 206 00:08:57,533 --> 00:08:59,500 She wants this bed. 207 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:00,000 I feel like this is a female. 208 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,600 I feel like this is a female. 209 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,000 So I'm thinking like older sister or aunt. 210 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,533 So this person like nightmares, 211 00:09:07,533 --> 00:09:10,600 getting yanked on by this dead lady 212 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,700 'cause she's like, this is... 213 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:14,867 I just need to handle this. 214 00:09:14,867 --> 00:09:17,900 Then I can get what I want, which is child. 215 00:09:19,867 --> 00:09:23,900 She's got her sights set on a living child in this house. 216 00:09:25,367 --> 00:09:28,367 She wants to have the child as hers. 217 00:09:28,367 --> 00:09:30,000 Like, she wants to own the kid. 218 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,967 Like, she wants to own the kid. 219 00:09:32,967 --> 00:09:34,266 Any idea why? 220 00:09:34,266 --> 00:09:35,634 Torture him. I don't know. 221 00:09:37,166 --> 00:09:39,367 She likes to [bleep] with the kid. 222 00:09:59,266 --> 00:10:00,734 [Steve] So I was talking to Mom earlier. 223 00:10:00,734 --> 00:10:02,500 She was saying that things are pretty bad, 224 00:10:02,500 --> 00:10:04,367 that you don't even want to sleep in your own room. 225 00:10:04,367 --> 00:10:05,867 -Mm-hmm. -[Steve] Is that right? 226 00:10:05,867 --> 00:10:07,634 -Yes. -What's going on in there? 227 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,533 It's just that I don't feel safe in there. 228 00:10:12,533 --> 00:10:13,049 Okay. 229 00:10:13,049 --> 00:10:13,634 Okay. 230 00:10:13,634 --> 00:10:15,800 Tell me some of the things you're experiencing. 231 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,634 I can feel an ominous presence watching me 232 00:10:18,634 --> 00:10:20,533 in my bedroom at night. 233 00:10:20,533 --> 00:10:22,867 All right, is that the reason you don't want to stay in your bedroom? 234 00:10:22,867 --> 00:10:24,800 -Mm-hmm. -Okay. 235 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,367 Hey. What else has happened? 236 00:10:26,367 --> 00:10:30,266 I can hear scratching sounds coming from inside the walls. 237 00:10:30,266 --> 00:10:32,166 [Steve] Okay. What are we talking about? 238 00:10:32,166 --> 00:10:35,066 Like in my bedroom, in the hallway. 239 00:10:35,066 --> 00:10:37,000 What kind of scratching are we talking about? 240 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,367 I would say pretty aggressive. 241 00:10:39,367 --> 00:10:40,734 Okay. 242 00:10:40,734 --> 00:10:42,800 All right. What else? 243 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:43,049 So I was on the couch around 11:00, 244 00:10:43,049 --> 00:10:47,100 So I was on the couch around 11:00, 245 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:50,467 all of a sudden, I just see a shadow head 246 00:10:50,467 --> 00:10:53,634 and hand like peeping around the corner. 247 00:10:55,367 --> 00:10:57,066 Right when I turned around to look, 248 00:10:57,066 --> 00:10:58,900 it just darted down the hallway. 249 00:11:00,166 --> 00:11:01,800 Did you see any features on this thing 250 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,000 or was it just a shadow? 251 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,867 No, it was just a black shadow 252 00:11:04,867 --> 00:11:09,266 with sharp claws it seemed to have. 253 00:11:09,266 --> 00:11:11,166 Do you have any idea what it... what it might be? 254 00:11:11,166 --> 00:11:12,533 Do you have any thoughts on it? 255 00:11:14,100 --> 00:11:16,500 I'm just feeling like it's an evil presence 256 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:19,367 that's trying to get me scared. 257 00:11:19,367 --> 00:11:20,634 Okay. 258 00:11:23,467 --> 00:11:25,533 There's this thing, like, running. 259 00:11:27,467 --> 00:11:29,800 And I was like, is it a shapeshifter? 260 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,634 But apparently it's not. 261 00:11:33,367 --> 00:11:35,100 Okay. 262 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:38,367 Like I just keep hearing, "It's a beast. 263 00:11:39,266 --> 00:11:40,800 It's a beast." 264 00:11:42,066 --> 00:11:43,049 Oh, [bleep]. It might be an elemental. 265 00:11:43,049 --> 00:11:44,734 Oh, [bleep]. It might be an elemental. 266 00:11:44,734 --> 00:11:48,533 This thing can work with all of the elements. 267 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,066 So I'm feeling like 268 00:11:53,066 --> 00:11:56,800 it is sometimes directing that energy 269 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,533 and is therefore able to almost, like, 270 00:12:00,533 --> 00:12:04,800 create beings like shadow people. 271 00:12:06,266 --> 00:12:07,867 Wait, let me get this clear. 272 00:12:07,867 --> 00:12:09,266 It's not shadow people. 273 00:12:09,266 --> 00:12:12,166 It's like shadow animals. 274 00:12:15,166 --> 00:12:17,867 I think that the living here 275 00:12:17,867 --> 00:12:21,467 have heard it knocking [bleep] over, 276 00:12:21,467 --> 00:12:23,367 you know, like ramming things, 277 00:12:23,367 --> 00:12:25,166 you know, making a lot of noise, 278 00:12:25,166 --> 00:12:27,367 like, a lot of chaos 279 00:12:27,367 --> 00:12:30,000 and freaking the living people out. 280 00:12:37,100 --> 00:12:38,634 So, Harry, I was talking to your wife earlier, 281 00:12:38,634 --> 00:12:40,367 and she was explaining what the hell is going on 282 00:12:40,367 --> 00:12:42,266 in this house of horrors over here. 283 00:12:42,266 --> 00:12:43,049 She thinks it's pretty dangerous. 284 00:12:43,049 --> 00:12:43,533 She thinks it's pretty dangerous. 285 00:12:43,533 --> 00:12:44,734 Do you agree with that? 286 00:12:44,734 --> 00:12:47,266 Yes, you're absolutely right 'cause, 287 00:12:47,266 --> 00:12:50,467 you know, I fear for my family. 288 00:12:50,467 --> 00:12:51,967 She said that whatever's going on here 289 00:12:51,967 --> 00:12:54,100 seems to be making you guys 290 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:56,066 at each other's throats fighting all the time. 291 00:12:56,066 --> 00:12:57,734 -That's true? -Yes, sir. 292 00:12:57,734 --> 00:13:01,266 And that's scary 'cause I love my wife and family. 293 00:13:01,266 --> 00:13:02,800 I'd do anything for her. 294 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,066 So what about your experiences here? 295 00:13:05,066 --> 00:13:07,500 I hear banging and scratching. 296 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:09,066 -It wakes me up. -Okay. 297 00:13:09,066 --> 00:13:10,533 Where are you hearing this? 298 00:13:10,533 --> 00:13:12,100 In my bathroom. 299 00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:13,049 You positive that no animal 300 00:13:13,049 --> 00:13:13,367 You positive that no animal 301 00:13:13,367 --> 00:13:14,800 could have made those scratching noises? 302 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,500 No, it's something bigger. 303 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:20,100 -Okay. Anything else? -Yeah. 304 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:23,867 I'll be just about to doze off and something grabs my foot. 305 00:13:23,867 --> 00:13:26,367 Why do you think is doing to you, whatever it is? 306 00:13:26,367 --> 00:13:31,166 I feel like it's taunting me and trying to wear me out 307 00:13:31,166 --> 00:13:32,367 and give me health issues, 308 00:13:32,367 --> 00:13:34,467 you know, cause of the lack of sleep. 309 00:13:34,467 --> 00:13:35,600 -Oh, yeah. -Tears you down. 310 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,467 -Oh, yeah. That'll... that'll kill you. -Yeah. 311 00:13:37,467 --> 00:13:41,166 I got high blood pressure over this, you know? 312 00:13:41,166 --> 00:13:43,049 I'm afraid to even ask you if there's anything else that's going on. 313 00:13:43,049 --> 00:13:43,800 I'm afraid to even ask you if there's anything else that's going on. 314 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,800 Now, I don't do drugs or drink or nothing like that. 315 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,266 -Okay. -And this is a hard thing to explain. 316 00:13:49,266 --> 00:13:51,367 We have this little figurine, 317 00:13:51,367 --> 00:13:53,500 and it seemed like it opened up 318 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:56,367 and insects just flooded out of it, 319 00:13:56,367 --> 00:13:58,266 went down, up the wall, 320 00:13:58,266 --> 00:14:00,066 and it just turned into a black cloud. 321 00:14:00,066 --> 00:14:01,967 The whole room turned totally black. 322 00:14:01,967 --> 00:14:03,367 I couldn't see anything. 323 00:14:03,367 --> 00:14:05,166 That made me jump out of my bed. 324 00:14:05,166 --> 00:14:07,800 Possible it's a hallucination from being up so much? 325 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,734 It really seemed so real to me. 326 00:14:10,734 --> 00:14:12,467 It wasn't a dream. 327 00:14:12,467 --> 00:14:13,049 With all stuff going on here, what do you think is here? 328 00:14:13,049 --> 00:14:14,600 With all stuff going on here, what do you think is here? 329 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,467 I think it's something that was never alive. 330 00:14:17,467 --> 00:14:20,967 It had to have been created by the man downstairs. 331 00:14:20,967 --> 00:14:22,233 Okay. 332 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,867 So this thing wants inside. 333 00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:31,634 I don't know why it hasn't been able to get in. 334 00:14:38,734 --> 00:14:40,233 It wants in. It wants in. 335 00:14:41,266 --> 00:14:42,634 Banging, banging, banging. 336 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,600 So they're hearing banging over here, 337 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,433 I guess, like the bathroom, the closet, whatever. 338 00:14:50,967 --> 00:14:52,734 That's that, like, beast ass thing. 339 00:14:52,734 --> 00:14:55,066 -Mm-hmm. -It's right there. Okay? 340 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,533 How close? It's almost in. 341 00:14:58,533 --> 00:15:01,000 Could definitely be whispering 342 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,634 to somebody in there to let it in. 343 00:15:05,066 --> 00:15:06,533 It has its hooks in them. 344 00:15:06,533 --> 00:15:08,166 What does that mean? 345 00:15:08,166 --> 00:15:10,000 It's not good, I'll tell you that. 346 00:15:13,367 --> 00:15:16,166 [Steve] Randomly point at a spot on a US map, 347 00:15:16,166 --> 00:15:17,867 chances are you're gonna land on a place 348 00:15:17,867 --> 00:15:19,533 with Native American history. 349 00:15:19,533 --> 00:15:22,066 So when a local historian said he had a good story for me 350 00:15:22,066 --> 00:15:25,100 about a local tribe, I wasn't surprised. 351 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:28,367 This guy tells me the story is so bloody and twisted, 352 00:15:28,367 --> 00:15:30,433 he's amazed they haven't made a movie about it yet. 353 00:15:34,867 --> 00:15:36,100 So before we get to the story, 354 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:37,867 what can you tell me about this local tribe? 355 00:15:37,867 --> 00:15:40,066 The local tribe, they were the Timucuans. 356 00:15:40,066 --> 00:15:41,377 They had lived in this area 357 00:15:41,377 --> 00:15:41,500 They had lived in this area 358 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:43,266 of Madison County for hundreds, 359 00:15:43,266 --> 00:15:44,634 maybe thousands of years. 360 00:15:44,634 --> 00:15:46,634 In fact, their main village of San Pedro 361 00:15:46,634 --> 00:15:49,634 was just a few miles away from your client's property. 362 00:15:49,634 --> 00:15:51,066 The Timucuans were tough. 363 00:15:51,066 --> 00:15:54,066 They were really fit people. They were muscular. 364 00:15:54,066 --> 00:15:56,967 The warriors were tall, they were tattooed. 365 00:15:56,967 --> 00:15:58,634 You can see what they look like here. 366 00:15:58,634 --> 00:16:01,967 That's a sketch of Timucuans from a very early time period. 367 00:16:01,967 --> 00:16:03,266 Okay. 368 00:16:03,266 --> 00:16:05,266 Things usually go bad for the Native Americans 369 00:16:05,266 --> 00:16:06,367 once the settlers come here. 370 00:16:06,367 --> 00:16:09,066 -Who were the settlers? -Settlers were the Spanish. 371 00:16:09,066 --> 00:16:11,377 The explorers first arrived in the area in the 1500s. 372 00:16:11,377 --> 00:16:12,000 The explorers first arrived in the area in the 1500s. 373 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,500 The missionaries followed in the 1600s. 374 00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:15,734 How did it with these, though? 375 00:16:15,734 --> 00:16:17,266 Initially, it went okay. 376 00:16:17,266 --> 00:16:19,100 But then in 1654, 377 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:20,367 we had a new governor come to power, 378 00:16:20,367 --> 00:16:23,000 Don Diego de Rebolledo. 379 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,734 And he was fearful 380 00:16:24,734 --> 00:16:27,266 of a British attack on St. Augustine, 381 00:16:27,266 --> 00:16:29,266 -the capital city of Florida. -Okay. 382 00:16:29,266 --> 00:16:31,100 So in 1656, 383 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:33,166 he sends this letter that you see here 384 00:16:33,166 --> 00:16:35,066 requesting or really ordering 385 00:16:35,066 --> 00:16:38,266 that they send 500 warriors to help defend the capital. 386 00:16:38,266 --> 00:16:41,000 That created a real violent backlash among them. 387 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,377 All right. 388 00:16:41,377 --> 00:16:42,100 All right. 389 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:45,066 So they're getting ordered by the governor to come fight. 390 00:16:45,066 --> 00:16:47,367 What did the Timucuan do at this point? 391 00:16:47,367 --> 00:16:48,867 Well, all of the Timucuan chiefs 392 00:16:48,867 --> 00:16:50,500 met in secret at San Pedro, 393 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:52,367 and they came up with this plan. 394 00:16:52,367 --> 00:16:53,533 They were going to pretend like 395 00:16:53,533 --> 00:16:55,266 they're going to help the Spanish, 396 00:16:55,266 --> 00:16:56,500 then they're going to spring a trap. 397 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:57,600 Okay. 398 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,867 So they go and they send their warriors 399 00:16:59,867 --> 00:17:02,367 and they go with them and they meet the Spanish soldiers. 400 00:17:02,367 --> 00:17:03,734 And then they do exactly that, 401 00:17:03,734 --> 00:17:06,266 they spring a trap and they kill seven of them. 402 00:17:06,266 --> 00:17:08,634 And this rebellion that begins in Timucuan territory. 403 00:17:08,634 --> 00:17:09,634 All right. 404 00:17:09,634 --> 00:17:11,377 So I take it Don Diego at some point 405 00:17:11,377 --> 00:17:11,500 So I take it Don Diego at some point 406 00:17:11,500 --> 00:17:13,734 finds out, what does he do? 407 00:17:13,734 --> 00:17:16,500 Well, Don Diego is furious about what has happened. 408 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:19,734 So he sends out his soldiers into Timucuan territory 409 00:17:19,734 --> 00:17:22,467 to bring in the chiefs and the lead warriors 410 00:17:22,467 --> 00:17:24,734 who have taken part in this rebellion. 411 00:17:24,734 --> 00:17:27,066 And he's gonna put them on trial for their role 412 00:17:27,066 --> 00:17:28,467 in taking part in this. 413 00:17:28,467 --> 00:17:29,734 What was the outcome? 414 00:17:29,734 --> 00:17:33,500 They convict six chiefs and four warriors to death. 415 00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:35,634 -Okay. -They execute them. 416 00:17:35,634 --> 00:17:38,266 And Don Diego orders their bodies strung up 417 00:17:38,266 --> 00:17:41,377 all around Timucuan territory as an example to others, 418 00:17:41,377 --> 00:17:41,634 all around Timucuan territory as an example to others, 419 00:17:41,634 --> 00:17:44,266 "Don't get involved in this kind of thing." 420 00:17:44,266 --> 00:17:47,166 No, now I see why you said this was one bloody and twisted story. 421 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:48,533 Exactly. 422 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:55,433 I'm seeing that elemental thing. 423 00:17:56,533 --> 00:18:02,367 It feels like this is its territory. 424 00:18:04,634 --> 00:18:07,500 This isn't the only property it affects. 425 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:08,734 How big of an area is it? 426 00:18:08,734 --> 00:18:09,867 Huge. 427 00:18:09,867 --> 00:18:11,377 Like, man, I mean, 428 00:18:11,377 --> 00:18:11,500 Like, man, I mean, 429 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:14,367 what it's showing me like an aerial, 430 00:18:14,367 --> 00:18:16,467 I don't know, like 100 miles. 431 00:18:17,734 --> 00:18:19,367 It's old. 432 00:18:19,367 --> 00:18:23,000 It might have been, like, kind of, like, 433 00:18:24,066 --> 00:18:29,100 worshiped in a way, way back in the day, 434 00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:31,166 which was not a good idea. 435 00:18:31,166 --> 00:18:33,800 And it does not want people here, 436 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,500 especially white people. 437 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:40,100 Nowadays, what it's doing is like 438 00:18:40,100 --> 00:18:41,377 trying to freak everybody out to leave, 439 00:18:41,377 --> 00:18:42,800 trying to freak everybody out to leave, 440 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,900 which kind of makes me nervous. 441 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,266 [Steve] So I just got off the phone with a local crime writer. 442 00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:55,634 Now she tells me she found a crazy story 443 00:18:55,634 --> 00:18:57,967 that happened right near Annie's house. 444 00:18:57,967 --> 00:19:01,266 Apparently, a local family had so much hard luck and tragedy 445 00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:04,900 that it caused the man of the house to lose his mind and his life. 446 00:19:10,367 --> 00:19:11,377 So, Emerald, I appreciate you coming out 447 00:19:11,377 --> 00:19:11,867 So, Emerald, I appreciate you coming out 448 00:19:11,867 --> 00:19:13,066 and helping me with this case. 449 00:19:13,066 --> 00:19:16,166 Now, you mentioned on the phone this tragic story. 450 00:19:16,166 --> 00:19:18,066 So before we get to the whole story, 451 00:19:18,066 --> 00:19:19,600 who were these people? 452 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,100 So Johnny Carter, 453 00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:23,367 born and raised in Madison County. 454 00:19:23,367 --> 00:19:26,367 He married his wife Lula, in 1899. 455 00:19:26,367 --> 00:19:28,734 And they got married as young teenagers. 456 00:19:28,734 --> 00:19:32,634 In fact, she was 13 years old, and he was 17 years old. 457 00:19:32,634 --> 00:19:33,734 She was 13? 458 00:19:33,734 --> 00:19:35,600 -Thirteen. -She's young. 459 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,266 Did they wind up having kids or anything? 460 00:19:37,266 --> 00:19:38,367 They did. 461 00:19:38,367 --> 00:19:39,634 During the course of their marriage, 462 00:19:39,634 --> 00:19:41,367 they had well over a dozen kids. 463 00:19:41,367 --> 00:19:41,377 The exact number's not known though. 464 00:19:41,377 --> 00:19:43,266 The exact number's not known though. 465 00:19:43,266 --> 00:19:45,000 All right, so, Emerald, you mentioned on the phone 466 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,066 there was a lot of hardship and tragedy with this family. 467 00:19:47,066 --> 00:19:48,166 What the hell happened? 468 00:19:48,166 --> 00:19:50,066 Tragically, many of their children died 469 00:19:50,066 --> 00:19:51,467 over the next several years. 470 00:19:53,266 --> 00:19:54,600 All right, so they lost a lot of kids 471 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,500 -in a short period of time. -Yes. 472 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:58,600 So now, Emerald, you mentioned on the phone about 473 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,367 the husband eventually losing his mind. 474 00:20:00,367 --> 00:20:02,100 I mean, was it over the kids? 475 00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:03,634 One can only imagine, 476 00:20:03,634 --> 00:20:06,867 you know, with that much tragedy going on within a family, 477 00:20:06,867 --> 00:20:09,500 but one year after the last child died, 478 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:11,377 in 1927, Saturday, May the 14th, 479 00:20:11,377 --> 00:20:12,066 in 1927, Saturday, May the 14th, 480 00:20:12,066 --> 00:20:13,500 Lula goes to a neighbor's house, 481 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:14,634 Tucker Bass, 482 00:20:14,634 --> 00:20:17,367 and she tells him that Johnny had threatened her life. 483 00:20:17,367 --> 00:20:18,634 And then Lula stayed there 484 00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:20,634 at Tucker's house for the night. 485 00:20:20,634 --> 00:20:22,734 All right. So I assume it doesn't end there. 486 00:20:22,734 --> 00:20:23,867 No. 487 00:20:23,867 --> 00:20:25,367 Johnny comes back the next morning 488 00:20:25,367 --> 00:20:26,867 with a shotgun 489 00:20:26,867 --> 00:20:28,634 and then is ranting, raving, cussing, 490 00:20:28,634 --> 00:20:30,266 threatening everybody in the house. 491 00:20:30,266 --> 00:20:31,367 Okay. 492 00:20:31,367 --> 00:20:32,734 And Tucker got a shotgun 493 00:20:32,734 --> 00:20:35,634 and shot Johnny in the chest once 494 00:20:35,634 --> 00:20:38,367 and then got a pistol and shot him three more times. 495 00:20:38,367 --> 00:20:40,367 And then Johnny ended up dying right there on 496 00:20:40,367 --> 00:20:41,377 Tucker's front steps. 497 00:20:41,377 --> 00:20:41,867 Tucker's front steps. 498 00:20:41,867 --> 00:20:43,100 It sounds like self-defense to me. 499 00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:44,100 What happened? 500 00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:47,967 So Tucker's case was heard by the coroner's jury. 501 00:20:47,967 --> 00:20:49,500 They ruled it self-defense. 502 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:50,967 No charges were pressed. 503 00:20:50,967 --> 00:20:52,266 Okay. So now Johnny's dead. 504 00:20:52,266 --> 00:20:53,500 What happens with Lula? 505 00:20:53,500 --> 00:20:56,634 So Lula continued living in Madison County. 506 00:20:56,634 --> 00:20:58,166 She never remarried, 507 00:20:58,166 --> 00:21:01,500 and she died in 1946 at age 60 508 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:04,166 and is actually buried beside Johnny 509 00:21:04,166 --> 00:21:05,967 in the San Pedro Cemetery. 510 00:21:05,967 --> 00:21:07,634 Now she's buried next to him for eternity, 511 00:21:07,634 --> 00:21:10,000 even though he tried to kill her. 512 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,266 I mean, it is what it is. 513 00:21:11,266 --> 00:21:11,377 But the whole story is tragic though when you think about it. 514 00:21:11,377 --> 00:21:13,367 But the whole story is tragic though when you think about it. 515 00:21:13,367 --> 00:21:14,900 Very. 516 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:18,967 [Amy] This elemental. 517 00:21:18,967 --> 00:21:21,266 It's trying to manipulate me. 518 00:21:25,166 --> 00:21:26,266 Okay. 519 00:21:26,266 --> 00:21:28,634 So one of the things I guess it can do is, like, 520 00:21:29,634 --> 00:21:31,533 -give you suggestions. -Okay. 521 00:21:31,533 --> 00:21:34,600 Almost like a hypnosis kind of situation 522 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,066 where it, like, 523 00:21:37,066 --> 00:21:40,734 is like, do this, do that, 524 00:21:40,734 --> 00:21:41,377 which obviously isn't good 525 00:21:41,377 --> 00:21:42,500 which obviously isn't good 526 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:44,433 because it could make people do bad things. 527 00:21:49,634 --> 00:21:52,266 I think in this scenario, uh, 528 00:21:52,266 --> 00:21:56,367 it can influence people through suggestions 529 00:21:56,367 --> 00:21:58,634 to do harm to others. 530 00:22:00,634 --> 00:22:02,967 But it needs better proximity. 531 00:22:02,967 --> 00:22:06,266 It needs to be inside for full effect. 532 00:22:06,266 --> 00:22:08,967 So I would think if it got in, 533 00:22:08,967 --> 00:22:10,533 it would probably just kill everybody. 534 00:22:14,867 --> 00:22:16,867 For more information about the show, 535 00:22:16,867 --> 00:22:18,367 and if you need us to investigate 536 00:22:18,367 --> 00:22:20,166 unexplained activity in your home... 537 00:22:20,166 --> 00:22:23,634 Please visit Travelchannel.com/ thedeadfiles. 538 00:22:23,634 --> 00:22:26,100 Click on "Help Me Dead Files" to submit your story 539 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:27,533 and we'll help if we can. 540 00:22:33,367 --> 00:22:35,066 [Steve] So far, I've got clients terrified. 541 00:22:35,066 --> 00:22:37,800 Something evil is out to hurt them. 542 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,166 On a property close to where a man lost his mind 543 00:22:40,166 --> 00:22:43,533 and died while trying to kill his wife. 544 00:22:43,533 --> 00:22:45,233 But I want to see if there's anything else. 545 00:22:46,467 --> 00:22:48,100 Searching through old records, 546 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:52,000 I find a vicious homicide that took place close to Annie's house. 547 00:22:55,367 --> 00:22:57,800 So I'm on my way to meet a local TV reporter 548 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,266 who says the case was solved by 549 00:23:00,266 --> 00:23:02,066 something found in the victim's bag. 550 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,000 So, Lanetra, I want to thank you 551 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,266 for helping me out with this case 552 00:23:12,266 --> 00:23:13,367 and meeting with me. All right. 553 00:23:13,367 --> 00:23:15,467 So I know this was a pretty brutal murder, 554 00:23:15,467 --> 00:23:16,967 but before we get to it, 555 00:23:16,967 --> 00:23:18,500 what do we know about the victim? 556 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:19,867 Well, here's a picture of her. 557 00:23:19,867 --> 00:23:22,367 Her name is Imogene Rogers. 558 00:23:22,367 --> 00:23:23,867 She was a mail carrier 559 00:23:23,867 --> 00:23:25,867 for the United States Postal Service 560 00:23:25,867 --> 00:23:27,166 in Madison County. 561 00:23:27,166 --> 00:23:27,879 She had a 66 mile route 562 00:23:27,879 --> 00:23:29,500 She had a 66 mile route 563 00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:31,867 along the rural roads in the area. 564 00:23:31,867 --> 00:23:33,467 What else do we know about her, anything? 565 00:23:33,467 --> 00:23:36,467 When she was murdered, she was only 42 years old. 566 00:23:36,467 --> 00:23:38,467 She was married with two kids. 567 00:23:38,467 --> 00:23:41,066 This isn't the first time she was attacked. 568 00:23:41,066 --> 00:23:43,100 15 years before her murder. 569 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:47,100 She was shot five times during a violent robbery. 570 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:49,734 But get this, she was eight months pregnant at the time. 571 00:23:49,734 --> 00:23:52,467 She and her unborn child survived. 572 00:23:52,467 --> 00:23:55,533 And when he was born, she named him Lucky. 573 00:23:55,533 --> 00:23:57,166 All right, Lanetra, if you can, 574 00:23:57,166 --> 00:23:57,879 what do we know about the crime scene and what happened. 575 00:23:57,879 --> 00:23:59,166 what do we know about the crime scene and what happened. 576 00:23:59,166 --> 00:24:01,367 On June 20th, 1988, 577 00:24:01,367 --> 00:24:03,467 Imogene was on her regular route, 578 00:24:03,467 --> 00:24:04,967 just a normal day at work. 579 00:24:04,967 --> 00:24:07,233 But then she disappeared. 580 00:24:07,233 --> 00:24:09,467 And then folks started calling the post office 581 00:24:09,467 --> 00:24:11,800 complaining about not getting their mail. 582 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,867 So that's when the search crew was sent out. 583 00:24:13,867 --> 00:24:15,500 They started looking for her, 584 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:18,333 and eventually they found her car off a country road. 585 00:24:18,333 --> 00:24:19,367 Okay. 586 00:24:19,367 --> 00:24:20,967 So when the cops did get there, 587 00:24:20,967 --> 00:24:22,000 what did they find? 588 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,500 Well, her body was not in the car, 589 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:25,066 but they did find her body 590 00:24:25,066 --> 00:24:27,867 close by under some thick brush. 591 00:24:27,867 --> 00:24:27,879 The straps from her mail bag 592 00:24:27,879 --> 00:24:29,367 The straps from her mail bag 593 00:24:29,367 --> 00:24:31,634 were wrapped tightly around her neck. 594 00:24:33,367 --> 00:24:34,867 Any sexual assault that they can see. 595 00:24:34,867 --> 00:24:39,867 No signs of robbery, no reports of sexual assault. 596 00:24:39,867 --> 00:24:43,233 The undelivered mail still in her car. 597 00:24:43,233 --> 00:24:44,367 [Steve] So on the phone, you said 598 00:24:44,367 --> 00:24:46,867 the key piece of evidence was found in her bag. 599 00:24:46,867 --> 00:24:48,000 What was it? 600 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,233 They found a fingerprint 601 00:24:49,233 --> 00:24:51,367 on one of the envelopes that was in Imogene's car. 602 00:24:51,367 --> 00:24:52,467 Okay. 603 00:24:52,467 --> 00:24:55,800 And the ID came back to William Joseph, 604 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,879 a 39-year-old local, a known drug addict. 605 00:24:57,879 --> 00:24:59,467 a 39-year-old local, a known drug addict. 606 00:24:59,467 --> 00:25:02,600 He lived only a mile away from the murder scene, 607 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,867 and his mailbox 608 00:25:03,867 --> 00:25:06,800 was the very next stop on Imogene's route. 609 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,266 Did he plea out, did he go to trial? 610 00:25:08,266 --> 00:25:09,367 He did. 611 00:25:09,367 --> 00:25:11,066 He pleaded guilty 612 00:25:11,066 --> 00:25:14,166 and he received a life sentence in prison. 613 00:25:15,233 --> 00:25:17,266 So this guy is in jail for life and that's it. 614 00:25:17,266 --> 00:25:19,000 He's never going to hurt anybody ever again. 615 00:25:22,867 --> 00:25:26,233 [Amy] I'm seeing that dead girl who crawls around. 616 00:25:26,233 --> 00:25:27,879 She's been late 20s. 617 00:25:27,879 --> 00:25:30,734 She's been late 20s. 618 00:25:30,734 --> 00:25:34,233 Could be anywhere from the 1990s until now. 619 00:25:34,233 --> 00:25:37,000 Heard the name Angie or Angela. 620 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,867 She has a short, like, bob haircut. 621 00:25:39,867 --> 00:25:41,867 She has very sharp features. 622 00:25:41,867 --> 00:25:44,867 Sharp nose, sharp eyes, sharp face. 623 00:25:44,867 --> 00:25:49,266 She can't speak because her voice box 624 00:25:49,266 --> 00:25:54,900 and her back got injured when she was murdered. 625 00:26:03,266 --> 00:26:06,100 I saw many disturbing things on my walk, 626 00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:09,166 but the crawling dead girl concerns me the most. 627 00:26:09,166 --> 00:26:14,166 So she was thin, pale, 628 00:26:14,166 --> 00:26:17,233 sharp oval face. 629 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:22,066 She had very fine lips. 630 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,900 Is there any expression on her face? 631 00:26:26,967 --> 00:26:27,879 Determination. 632 00:26:27,879 --> 00:26:28,333 Determination. 633 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,367 Next, I described a scene 634 00:26:34,367 --> 00:26:36,734 where I saw her torturing the living. 635 00:26:36,734 --> 00:26:39,000 A kid is in the bed. 636 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,266 I think it's a male 637 00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:43,166 and her arms are like 638 00:26:43,166 --> 00:26:45,100 coming out from under the bed, 639 00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:46,634 one hand, grabbing his ankle 640 00:26:46,634 --> 00:26:50,166 and, like, one hand squeezing a toe. 641 00:26:58,867 --> 00:27:00,634 Amy, is this what you saw? 642 00:27:02,066 --> 00:27:03,634 Yes, that's what I saw. 643 00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:17,367 [Steve] Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 644 00:27:17,367 --> 00:27:20,166 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 645 00:27:20,166 --> 00:27:22,734 and our clients for the first time. 646 00:27:22,734 --> 00:27:25,634 So, Amy, I want you to meet Annie and Harry. 647 00:27:27,266 --> 00:27:31,867 They live here with their 11-year-old son, Tristan. 648 00:27:31,867 --> 00:27:35,600 And this is Harry's mom, Sandy, who's 73. 649 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:35,924 Now, Annie is carrying the weight of the world on her shoulders. 650 00:27:35,924 --> 00:27:39,367 Now, Annie is carrying the weight of the world on her shoulders. 651 00:27:39,367 --> 00:27:41,266 She's trying to stay strong for her family, 652 00:27:41,266 --> 00:27:42,867 but she believes whatever's here 653 00:27:42,867 --> 00:27:45,533 is trying to kill them off one by one. 654 00:27:45,533 --> 00:27:47,000 We're her last hope, 655 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,734 and she's praying by the end of the night, 656 00:27:48,734 --> 00:27:51,533 you can find a way to make this place safe again. 657 00:27:51,533 --> 00:27:53,867 So, guys, if Amy doesn't have any questions, 658 00:27:53,867 --> 00:27:55,433 she'll tell us about her walk. 659 00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:00,166 [Amy] When I started my walk, 660 00:28:00,166 --> 00:28:01,800 there was something running outside 661 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,266 and I'm like, "Is that like a shape-shifter or something?" 662 00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:05,924 But I kept hearing somebody being like, 663 00:28:05,924 --> 00:28:06,533 But I kept hearing somebody being like, 664 00:28:06,533 --> 00:28:08,867 "It's a beast. It's a beast." 665 00:28:08,867 --> 00:28:10,634 I got that it's ancient. 666 00:28:10,634 --> 00:28:16,867 And at one point in time, humans worshiped this thing. 667 00:28:16,867 --> 00:28:19,000 They thought it was a God. 668 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,367 But I got that it's actually an elemental. 669 00:28:22,367 --> 00:28:24,367 They are part of the air 670 00:28:24,367 --> 00:28:27,734 or they're part of the Earth, fire, whatever. 671 00:28:27,734 --> 00:28:32,367 And your property is part of its territory, 672 00:28:32,367 --> 00:28:35,467 it claims to own. 673 00:28:35,467 --> 00:28:35,924 It does not want people there, especially White people. 674 00:28:35,924 --> 00:28:40,266 It does not want people there, especially White people. 675 00:28:40,266 --> 00:28:43,000 And it was never good. 676 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,100 [Annie] Yeah. 677 00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,467 You look like a deer in the headlights. 678 00:28:45,467 --> 00:28:47,734 -I could just... -This is scaring me. 679 00:28:47,734 --> 00:28:49,000 Yeah. 680 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,266 Amy said, people once worshiped this thing. 681 00:28:51,266 --> 00:28:52,367 Yes. 682 00:28:52,367 --> 00:28:54,166 -[Steve] And it was ancient. -Yes. 683 00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:56,266 -And dislikes White people. -Yes. 684 00:28:56,266 --> 00:28:58,634 -And wants them out, right? -Yes. 685 00:28:58,634 --> 00:29:00,100 I'm wondering if it might relate 686 00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:03,166 to the Timucuan tribe that inhabited this area. 687 00:29:03,166 --> 00:29:05,734 Now, these guys were around for centuries 688 00:29:05,734 --> 00:29:05,924 until the Spanish settlers came along. 689 00:29:05,924 --> 00:29:07,867 until the Spanish settlers came along. 690 00:29:07,867 --> 00:29:10,634 Now, these natives were tall, tattooed. 691 00:29:10,634 --> 00:29:14,467 They were pretty muscular, warring type tribe. 692 00:29:14,467 --> 00:29:17,734 Now, at first the Timucuans and the Spanish got along, 693 00:29:17,734 --> 00:29:20,867 but that all changed in 1656 694 00:29:20,867 --> 00:29:22,867 when the governor of Florida at the time 695 00:29:22,867 --> 00:29:24,900 got worried the British were going to attack. 696 00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:27,900 So he sent a letter demanding the tribe to fight 697 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:30,867 with the Spanish against the British. 698 00:29:30,867 --> 00:29:34,867 But this infuriated the chiefs who decided to create a trap. 699 00:29:34,867 --> 00:29:35,924 -What? -Yeah. 700 00:29:35,924 --> 00:29:36,100 -What? -Yeah. 701 00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:39,266 So they sent their warriors to join the Spanish soldiers 702 00:29:39,266 --> 00:29:40,533 that were going to fight the British. 703 00:29:40,533 --> 00:29:41,600 Okay. 704 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,000 And the Warriors turned on the Spanish 705 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,634 soldiers and killed seven of them. 706 00:29:45,634 --> 00:29:47,467 Well, when the governor heard about this, 707 00:29:47,467 --> 00:29:48,900 he got pissed off obviously, 708 00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:51,467 he rounded up the chiefs and the warriors involved 709 00:29:51,467 --> 00:29:53,533 and sentenced them all to death. 710 00:29:53,533 --> 00:29:55,900 They even hung up three of the chiefs 711 00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:57,900 in their main village very close to here. 712 00:29:57,900 --> 00:29:59,266 That's not good. 713 00:29:59,266 --> 00:30:01,867 Do you think this tribe has anything to do with the elemental? 714 00:30:01,867 --> 00:30:04,533 It's possible that this tribe 715 00:30:04,533 --> 00:30:05,924 may have worshiped an elemental or two, 716 00:30:05,924 --> 00:30:07,900 may have worshiped an elemental or two, 717 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:09,900 so it might have gotten really upset 718 00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,734 because, like, then, you know, 719 00:30:12,734 --> 00:30:16,600 they're killing that elemental's people. 720 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,467 Okay, so how is it affecting these guys in this house? 721 00:30:19,467 --> 00:30:23,600 One of the things that I saw that it can do 722 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,166 is gather enough energy to project part of itself 723 00:30:28,166 --> 00:30:31,000 and make these kind of, like, shadow animals. 724 00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:35,734 I think that the living here 725 00:30:35,734 --> 00:30:35,924 have heard it, knocking [bleep] over, 726 00:30:35,924 --> 00:30:39,367 have heard it, knocking [bleep] over, 727 00:30:39,367 --> 00:30:41,266 you know, like ramming things, 728 00:30:41,266 --> 00:30:43,100 you know, making a lot of noise, 729 00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:46,467 like a lot of chaos and freaking 730 00:30:46,467 --> 00:30:48,000 the living people out. 731 00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:52,900 I hear like a bang, I just suddenly wake up. 732 00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:54,734 Oh. 733 00:30:54,734 --> 00:30:57,367 Then I hear other things knock down, 734 00:30:57,367 --> 00:30:58,467 and it gets me startled 735 00:30:58,467 --> 00:31:00,800 because there's nothing in the house. 736 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,533 It's scary. That's all I can say. 737 00:31:02,533 --> 00:31:04,100 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 738 00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:05,924 So Annie, if you can explain to Amy, Tristan, 739 00:31:05,924 --> 00:31:06,467 So Annie, if you can explain to Amy, Tristan, 740 00:31:06,467 --> 00:31:07,900 hears this same type of thing. 741 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,533 [Annie] He'll be watching TV 742 00:31:10,533 --> 00:31:13,100 or he'll be laying there just about to fall asleep 743 00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:14,900 and he can hear the scratching in the wall, 744 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,867 and he says it's in the wall. 745 00:31:17,867 --> 00:31:20,000 And it's not the cat, it's in the wall. 746 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,467 Mm-hmm. 747 00:31:21,467 --> 00:31:22,533 Could that be the elemental? 748 00:31:22,533 --> 00:31:24,233 Is that like... Okay. 749 00:31:26,467 --> 00:31:30,266 It could potentially make the living do things 750 00:31:30,266 --> 00:31:32,266 that they wouldn't normally do, 751 00:31:32,266 --> 00:31:34,900 like, even harm other people. 752 00:31:36,533 --> 00:31:41,533 But it can't do that unless it gets into the house. 753 00:31:42,467 --> 00:31:44,734 So when I was going into that house, 754 00:31:44,734 --> 00:31:47,166 it was like whispering to me and it's, like, 755 00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:49,467 you know, basically, like, "Let me in." 756 00:31:49,467 --> 00:31:52,000 It was trying to manipulate me, 757 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,800 but it definitely has started 758 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,000 making suggestions to somebody 759 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,867 when they're sleeping 760 00:32:00,867 --> 00:32:04,734 and it is starting to effect a living person. 761 00:32:06,266 --> 00:32:08,100 [Steve] Annie, I won't repeat the word you used, 762 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,166 but tell me how you think the house is changing you. 763 00:32:11,634 --> 00:32:13,100 It's like when I leave that house, 764 00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:14,467 I'm perfectly fine. 765 00:32:14,467 --> 00:32:16,100 I'm so relaxed. 766 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:19,000 And but when I come back, 767 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,367 I become the biggest raging bitch 768 00:32:21,367 --> 00:32:22,600 you could ever ask for. 769 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,467 I lose it when I get home. 770 00:32:25,467 --> 00:32:27,467 [Steve] Obviously, this is not good for your marriage. 771 00:32:27,467 --> 00:32:29,367 No. 772 00:32:29,367 --> 00:32:32,000 It'll mean everything to me to have 773 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,734 us back the way that we were. 774 00:32:34,734 --> 00:32:35,924 Uh, I mean, I see it every time 775 00:32:35,924 --> 00:32:37,634 Uh, I mean, I see it every time 776 00:32:37,634 --> 00:32:39,533 we leave here, we get in the car 777 00:32:39,533 --> 00:32:42,166 and we get down the road, and it's like 778 00:32:42,166 --> 00:32:44,000 he'll reach over and he'll grab my hand, 779 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,467 you know, just like, just like-- 780 00:32:45,467 --> 00:32:48,867 A little romantic gestures. 781 00:32:48,867 --> 00:32:52,233 And I want it back in the house. 782 00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,867 So, your marriage issues 783 00:32:56,867 --> 00:32:58,900 sounds like it could be this, right? 784 00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:04,734 I think that the elemental is definitely a factor, 785 00:33:04,734 --> 00:33:05,924 but I believe that there's somebody else 786 00:33:05,924 --> 00:33:08,000 but I believe that there's somebody else 787 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,800 who's also affecting you that's in the house. 788 00:33:12,166 --> 00:33:13,800 [Steve] All right, so who's that other person? 789 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,000 So the other one is this female. 790 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,367 And I felt like, "Okay, 791 00:33:17,367 --> 00:33:19,867 I think this could be dangerous." 792 00:33:19,867 --> 00:33:23,100 I would put her in her late 20s, 793 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,100 dies somewhere between the '90s and now. 794 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,900 I heard the name Angie or Angela, 795 00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:31,900 and she was murdered. 796 00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:33,100 Very brutal. 797 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:35,924 Her voice box was crushed somehow. 798 00:33:35,924 --> 00:33:37,367 Her voice box was crushed somehow. 799 00:33:37,367 --> 00:33:42,100 That's why all she can do now is like grunt or growl. 800 00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:47,533 And she kind of lost her mind after being murdered. 801 00:33:47,533 --> 00:33:49,000 Now, as you said, she was murdered, 802 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,000 and it happened in the '90s 803 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,533 and she had a crushed voice box. 804 00:33:51,533 --> 00:33:52,867 Correct. 805 00:33:52,867 --> 00:33:55,467 This makes me think of a woman I came across in my research. 806 00:33:55,467 --> 00:33:57,266 Her name was Imogene Rogers. 807 00:33:57,266 --> 00:33:59,734 She delivered mail here in this area. 808 00:33:59,734 --> 00:34:01,900 Now, on June 20th, 1988, 809 00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:04,000 some people on her route called the post office 810 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,924 and said the mail wasn't delivered. 811 00:34:05,924 --> 00:34:06,000 and said the mail wasn't delivered. 812 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,867 So they sent out a search party 813 00:34:07,867 --> 00:34:11,100 and they found her car near a country road here. 814 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:13,000 Now, you mentioned a voice box injury. 815 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,600 Turns out she had been strangled to death 816 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,367 with the straps from her mail bag. 817 00:34:17,367 --> 00:34:18,800 Oh, my. 818 00:34:20,634 --> 00:34:23,266 [Steve] Now, detectives found a single clue in the car. 819 00:34:23,266 --> 00:34:26,166 It was a fingerprint on one of the envelopes. 820 00:34:26,166 --> 00:34:28,467 It turns out it belonged to this guy, William Joseph. 821 00:34:28,467 --> 00:34:29,634 He was a drug addict, 822 00:34:29,634 --> 00:34:31,634 who was the next stop on her route. 823 00:34:31,634 --> 00:34:35,000 Eventually, he pled guilty and got life in prison. 824 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,233 But this is her. 825 00:34:39,467 --> 00:34:40,734 When you see the photo, 826 00:34:40,734 --> 00:34:42,734 does it look like maybe somebody you might have seen. 827 00:34:42,734 --> 00:34:44,166 Oh... 828 00:34:44,166 --> 00:34:47,000 I had a sketch done of the person I saw. 829 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,734 Hm. 830 00:34:55,734 --> 00:34:58,000 That's interesting. 831 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,433 Tell me what you guys think. 832 00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:04,734 [Annie] Wow. 833 00:35:04,734 --> 00:35:05,924 That is a very big resemblance. 834 00:35:05,924 --> 00:35:09,000 That is a very big resemblance. 835 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,867 Yeah. 836 00:35:10,867 --> 00:35:14,100 This woman is not the same woman 837 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,367 who she was when she was alive 838 00:35:16,367 --> 00:35:18,000 or even at the time of her murder. 839 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,867 She has become a very dark, malicious, negative... thing. 840 00:35:23,867 --> 00:35:27,166 I saw her running up and down the hallway, 841 00:35:27,166 --> 00:35:30,900 climbing on the ceiling, climbing on the walls. 842 00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:32,367 Did you tell me your mother-in-law 843 00:35:32,367 --> 00:35:35,100 stares up in a corner of the room? 844 00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:35,924 [Annie] Yes. 845 00:35:35,924 --> 00:35:36,367 [Annie] Yes. 846 00:35:36,367 --> 00:35:38,266 Up in the left hand corner of the door. 847 00:35:38,266 --> 00:35:40,266 She'll look up there 848 00:35:40,266 --> 00:35:43,533 and she'll be talking to it and telling it, 849 00:35:43,533 --> 00:35:45,000 "You need to go." 850 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,634 -Interesting. -Okay. 851 00:35:47,634 --> 00:35:52,867 So I went into the first bedroom on the left. 852 00:35:52,867 --> 00:35:54,166 [Harry] That's Sandy's room. 853 00:35:54,166 --> 00:35:58,367 And what I saw her doing was like trying to drag 854 00:35:58,367 --> 00:36:00,800 that person out of bed. 855 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,166 She wants to take her outside to give her 856 00:36:03,166 --> 00:36:05,634 as a sacrifice to the elemental. 857 00:36:05,634 --> 00:36:05,924 Oh, my God. 858 00:36:05,924 --> 00:36:07,100 Oh, my God. 859 00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:10,533 Because I think your mom may have some energy 860 00:36:10,533 --> 00:36:14,000 where she's putting out this energy of protection, 861 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,266 but this dead woman 862 00:36:15,266 --> 00:36:16,900 doesn't want your mother-in-law, 863 00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:18,333 she wants your son. 864 00:36:20,467 --> 00:36:22,166 Somehow your mom is, like, 865 00:36:23,734 --> 00:36:25,166 you know, preventing that. 866 00:36:26,734 --> 00:36:28,166 That's a lot to take in. 867 00:36:28,166 --> 00:36:29,867 Is she a protective type? 868 00:36:29,867 --> 00:36:32,900 She's always been protective all her life. 869 00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:35,100 [Steve] So what's this dead woman doing to this kid? 870 00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:35,924 [Amy] It's not good. 871 00:36:35,924 --> 00:36:36,634 [Amy] It's not good. 872 00:36:37,734 --> 00:36:40,266 I see her hands come up from under, 873 00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:41,734 like the bed, 874 00:36:41,734 --> 00:36:43,900 and then she's grabbing the toes and squeezing them, 875 00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:46,533 like she wants to pop them. 876 00:36:46,533 --> 00:36:50,433 I would not be surprised that this person is waking up with bruises. 877 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,634 I actually had a sketch done 878 00:36:54,634 --> 00:36:56,900 of what I saw in that moment. 879 00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,634 You know, I don't even want to show this to you, 880 00:37:11,634 --> 00:37:14,533 but that's what's going on. 881 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,333 Oh, my God. 882 00:37:20,367 --> 00:37:22,066 [Harry] She can't get my child. 883 00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:24,800 I'd die for him. 884 00:37:28,634 --> 00:37:31,000 I'll do anything I need to, to protect him. 885 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,734 But when Amy started talking about 886 00:37:32,734 --> 00:37:34,734 foot getting grabbed on the ankle and all that, 887 00:37:34,734 --> 00:37:35,924 you told me that's happening to you. 888 00:37:35,924 --> 00:37:36,266 you told me that's happening to you. 889 00:37:36,266 --> 00:37:38,100 -Yes. -[Amy] Really? 890 00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:40,100 -Yes. -[Annie] Happened the other night. 891 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:45,100 Our son was in the bed with us when it happened. 892 00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:46,800 Mm. Interesting. 893 00:37:48,734 --> 00:37:51,367 Well, you've had your own problems in bed. 894 00:37:51,367 --> 00:37:53,266 -[Annie] Yes. -Um... 895 00:37:53,266 --> 00:37:55,634 [Steve] I got a photo of that stuff. 896 00:37:55,634 --> 00:38:00,467 This is, this is Annie's hand when she woke up. 897 00:38:00,467 --> 00:38:02,800 [Amy] Oh, man. Okay. 898 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,266 [Steve] Now, she called them bite marks, 899 00:38:04,266 --> 00:38:05,924 but I don't know what the hell's that. 900 00:38:05,924 --> 00:38:06,266 but I don't know what the hell's that. 901 00:38:06,266 --> 00:38:08,333 They were sore for months. 902 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,734 If I could see her, I'd kick her ass. 903 00:38:13,166 --> 00:38:15,233 I've suffered enough loss in my life. 904 00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:28,100 Now, Annie, over the years, 905 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:29,634 I've learned to trust a mom's instincts. 906 00:38:29,634 --> 00:38:30,800 And you were right. 907 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,000 Something in this house is trying to kill your family. 908 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,800 Now the big question is, 909 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,166 is there any way to make this place safe again? 910 00:38:38,166 --> 00:38:39,734 And if so, what's it going to take? 911 00:38:40,734 --> 00:38:42,634 For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 912 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,467 [Amy] So concerning the elemental, 913 00:38:49,467 --> 00:38:51,465 what I would like you to do for a month every day, 914 00:38:51,465 --> 00:38:52,533 what I would like you to do for a month every day, 915 00:38:52,533 --> 00:38:58,533 pick like six points that cover your land, okay? 916 00:38:58,533 --> 00:39:00,066 And just one squirt... 917 00:39:00,066 --> 00:39:01,533 [mimics squirting] 918 00:39:01,533 --> 00:39:02,900 Now the other thing 919 00:39:02,900 --> 00:39:05,800 is the hawthorn and the cloves. 920 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,100 You know, same, six points, six of these, okay? 921 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:13,367 One in each spot every day. 922 00:39:13,367 --> 00:39:15,734 It may not even take a whole month. 923 00:39:15,734 --> 00:39:19,000 This thing is going to move on pretty quickly. 924 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,266 Well, that's a relief. 925 00:39:20,266 --> 00:39:21,465 Now, the woman. 926 00:39:21,465 --> 00:39:21,900 Now, the woman. 927 00:39:24,467 --> 00:39:27,467 Okay, this is going to take a little bit more action. 928 00:39:27,467 --> 00:39:28,467 All right? 929 00:39:28,467 --> 00:39:30,533 I would like to bring two people in. 930 00:39:30,533 --> 00:39:34,367 One is a younger female sensitive. 931 00:39:34,367 --> 00:39:37,634 It doesn't matter if she's a psychic or a medium, 932 00:39:37,634 --> 00:39:39,734 -uh, who has children. -Okay? 933 00:39:39,734 --> 00:39:43,467 The other one is someone like a demonologist, 934 00:39:43,467 --> 00:39:49,100 somebody who's used to dealing with possessions, exorcisms. 935 00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:51,465 So the female medium will try to reconnect this woman 936 00:39:51,465 --> 00:39:55,634 So the female medium will try to reconnect this woman 937 00:39:55,634 --> 00:39:59,000 with who she was prior to the murder. 938 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,467 If she's successful, great. 939 00:40:01,467 --> 00:40:06,233 She'll move on peacefully, great, wonderful. 940 00:40:06,233 --> 00:40:08,467 Become who she was. 941 00:40:08,467 --> 00:40:11,266 If she won't do it, 942 00:40:11,266 --> 00:40:15,266 then we're going to utilize both the medium 943 00:40:15,266 --> 00:40:17,533 and the individual who's 944 00:40:17,533 --> 00:40:21,465 a demonologist to force her out. 945 00:40:21,465 --> 00:40:22,166 a demonologist to force her out. 946 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,634 Once that's done, 947 00:40:25,634 --> 00:40:29,634 things should really, really change. 948 00:40:30,967 --> 00:40:32,100 [Steve] This is good news for you. 949 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:33,533 -[Harry and Annie] Oh, yeah. -Definitely. 950 00:40:33,533 --> 00:40:35,000 I'm going to give it all I've got. 951 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,367 I'm glad that we have the tools, 952 00:40:39,367 --> 00:40:40,734 the knowledge, 953 00:40:40,734 --> 00:40:44,100 and we just thank you all so much. 954 00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,867 Top of my head to the bottom of my toes, 955 00:40:45,867 --> 00:40:47,467 you know, I thank y'all. 956 00:40:47,467 --> 00:40:48,967 Both of y'all are amazing. 957 00:40:48,967 --> 00:40:50,467 Thank you for having us. 958 00:40:50,467 --> 00:40:51,465 I'm very grateful. 959 00:40:51,465 --> 00:40:52,233 I'm very grateful. 960 00:40:52,233 --> 00:40:53,800 Overly grateful. 961 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,000 I mean, I can't... 962 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,166 I mean, I can't even put into words... 963 00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:01,734 what it means for y'all to help us like this. 964 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,100 [Amy] I'm glad I was able to deliver this family some good news. 965 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,467 They have a lot of work to do, 966 00:41:11,467 --> 00:41:13,367 but as long as they follow my advice 967 00:41:13,367 --> 00:41:16,734 for removing the elemental and contact a medium 968 00:41:16,734 --> 00:41:19,734 and demonologist to move the dead lady on, 969 00:41:19,734 --> 00:41:21,465 this family should find the peace 970 00:41:21,465 --> 00:41:21,467 this family should find the peace 971 00:41:21,467 --> 00:41:23,066 they've been looking for. 972 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,100 Hi, Steve and Amy, I wanted to give an update since the investigation. 973 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,967 We followed all of Amy's advice. 974 00:41:33,967 --> 00:41:38,100 We have had no more activity, which is absolutely amazing. 975 00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:40,634 I come home in a better mood. 976 00:41:40,634 --> 00:41:42,533 My husband's in a better mood. 977 00:41:42,533 --> 00:41:44,467 Things have gotten so much better 978 00:41:44,467 --> 00:41:47,100 since we started all of this. 979 00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:50,800 So, from the bottom of my heart, 980 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,465 thank you so, so, so, so much. 981 00:41:51,465 --> 00:41:54,533 thank you so, so, so, so much. 982 00:41:54,533 --> 00:41:56,967 You have given us our life back, 983 00:41:56,967 --> 00:41:59,367 and we cannot thank you enough for that.