[cell phone rings]
[Steve] Hello? This is Steve.
I just got some unexpected news.
After more than 200 investigations,
Amy Allan has decided to take time off.
This is violent, violent.
The person wants to kill somebody.
[Steve] I've seen up close how hard she works to help our clients.
They are sucking the life out of these people.
Amy did suggest another medium to take her place.
Cindy Kaza.
[Steve] Now, I know Cindy and I'm a big fan,
but I got to admit it's gonna be a little weird to work with somebody new
after all these years.
-It wants inside the house because it wants to kill you. -[cries]
We need to continue the work that we are so passionate about...
Thank you guys so much.
You're lifesaving.
We can be at peace again.
-Oh, thank goodness. Well, that makes me happy. -[woman] Yeah.
...which is helping the living make peace with the dead.
I'm honestly a little bit nervous.
This house scares me.
It's scary.
Super aggressive energy.
I wouldn't want to spend the night in this house...
...at all.
[Steve] So, I'm back out here in one of my favorite cities,
Tucson, Arizona.
I got a call from a woman named Cynthia
who sounds terrified.
She says her family's dream home
has become a paranormal warzone.
She's ready to get the hell out of there.
The problem is her husband refuses to budge.
It sounds like things are really bad,
and I'm hoping Cindy and I can help these people out.
[Steve] So, Cynthia, you live in this big, beautiful home,
but when we talked on the phone you sounded terrified.
-Yes. -Yeah. What the hell is going on here?
[sighs]
I feel whatever is here is trying to kill me.
She wants me dead.
All right, you just said "she."
Why do you call it a "she?"
Because I feel like it's a female entity.
I also feel like the devil has a hand in this as well.
Sounds like you're living in hell, literally.
-Oh, yeah, almost definitely, and this is our dream home. -Okay.
So, let's start with some basics. Who lives in the house?
-Okay. -So who do we got here?
Myself and my husband Pedro and my son Adam.
-And how old is Adam? -Adam is 31.
[Steve] Your son lives at home?
Adam was in a motor vehicle accident in 2016.
He suffered a traumatic brain injury
and he was in a coma for three days.
-The doctors had let us know that he was not gonna make it. -Oh, jeez.
[Cynthia] He had to learn how to do everything
-all over again. -Oh, I am so sorry to hear that.
All right, so, Cynthia, do me a favor
and give me a list of what you guys are going through here.
Things move on their own.
We hear startling noises.
Our moods are being affected.
We see shadow figures.
-It's also become very physically violent. -Okay.
The way your moods are being influenced, what's going on with that?
I'm in fear, a lot of despair, and sadness, and heartache.
Is anybody in the house being affected like you are?
Yes, my husband is as well.
[Steve] How's he being affected? Similar to you or different?
Different. He's more agitated, he's more aggressive.
He comes home angry.
-Is it affecting the marriage? -Yes, I feel like the house is taking over him.
Now, you mentioned on the phone
that your husband's pretty stubborn
about leaving this place.
He is. It's sentimental. His father gifted us the land.
-I understand the sentiment he has for this home, -Yeah.
-but his family needs to come first. -Yeah, absolutely.
He doesn't see that.
So you're on your own.
I'm on my own.
You break my heart, I have to tell ya,
just listening to you and looking at you.
It's killing me, and I'm glad we're here.
[Cindy] There's, like, really deep depression happening in this house.
I'm concerned for the family.
And I feel like the mom doesn't know what to do.
She's like, "I don't know how to help my family.
I don't know how to save my family.
I don't know how to fix this."
It's scary. This is really bad.
Man, I feel like there is definitely something inhuman here.
Shadow figures moving everywhere across the hall.
This family is legitimately terrified
about what's happening in their home.
Terrified about what's happening in their home.
This is not safe turf for me.
It's dangerous.
Oh, a kid's room. Okay.
Oh. [gasps]
[sighing] Oh.
I hate this house. I seriously hate this house. It's so [bleep] up.
It's not good.
Okay, so, Cynthia, why'd you bring me into the kitchen?
I hear what sounds like pebbles are getting thrown at my windows.
So which windows are you hearing this?
The windows underneath the cabinets.
[Steve] Okay, so we are in Arizona,
and just the landscaping alone has a lot of pebbles and rocks.
And it could be the wind picking it up
-and hitting the windows? -No.
This happens to me maybe 1:00, 2:00 in the morning,
and there's no wind.
What else is going on?
That freezer door right behind you
just slammed right into me very viciously with force.
All right, so this doesn't open easy.
-It's a freezer door. It's not supposed to... -No, no,
not supposed to open from the inside.
I was literally shaking and crying.
If that happened to me [chuckles] I'd freak out.
-Yeah, I had no explanation for it. -Okay.
There's a lot of poltergeist activity in this house, too.
[voice laughs maliciously]
I see objects flying around.
I feel like I'm hearing plates breaking in the kitchen,
glass shattering, hair getting pulled.
I can feel the whole house kind of shaking.
Every time I look at the chandeliers in this house
they start moving on their own.
The lights go on and off.
Doors are slamming.
How seriously would you rate the poltergeist activity here?
If it's a scale of one to ten, I'd say we're at 15.
It's the worst-case scenario.
[Steve] Hey, Cynthia,
you didn't mention you had young girls living here.
That's my granddaughter's room
-when they come and spend the night. -Okay.
All right, so what's going on?
I wake up with bruises and scratches.
-So what kind of scratches are we talking about? -I have a photo.
How often is this happening?
That happened a couple of months ago.
But I woke up this morning with another bruise.
It's very painful.
-So it's tender to the touch? -Yes.
I mean, is it possible in the middle of the night your husband banged into you
rolling over or something?
No, because I don't sleep in the bed with my husband.
-Okay, so you're not even sleeping with him? -No.
Anything else like that happen?
Any kind of other physical things?
I was walking down the stairs and I got shoved really hard.
-Did you get hurt? -I did get hurt. I went to urgent care.
-Can you actually show me how hard you got shoved? -Yes.
Okay.
I'm no lightweight. That shove would have put me on the ground.
I was very afraid.
What do you think is here?
-I think we have demons here. -Okay.
And the female demon, I feel that she wants me dead.
[Cindy] I know that there's a woman, a female spirit.
This woman does not want us here.
I feel like she was really mean and abusive.
She did everything she could to make everybody else's life miserable when she was alive,
and she's doing the same thing from the other side.
How is she doing that?
She is the one who is causing the family to fight.
If you're standing here and this woman comes behind you
it's like immediately you just feel rage.
I just keep hearing people screaming at each other.
Do you know if she ever has any kind of
physical interaction with the living?
She's pushing people, she's pulling hair.
She pulls the covers off people,
pulls their legs.
She's really, really angry. Super mean.
She's a pissed off lady.
[Steve] So, Adam, I was talking to Mom today.
She was telling me some wild stuff that's happening here,
and she thinks whatever's here is pretty dangerous.
She's at the point she's ready to leave.
-I am, too. -You are?
Yeah. I'm on board with that, yeah.
So, Adam, I understand you're recovering from serious surgery.
Now, is it tough for you to recover
with all this activity going on?
-I do believe that. -Okay.
Yeah.
As far as experiences,
do you have any that you can tell me about?
I've seen a shadow man entity.
So where did you see this shadow man?
I saw him in the front yard.
[Steve] All right, so do me a favor
and tell me what he looked like.
[Adam] He was a tall dark shadow.
-Did it move at all? -It didn't move
but he made you feel like he was looking at you.
So, Adam, anything else?
Yeah, just everybody's behavior I would say.
Our mood swings and more fighting, more bickering about nothing.
Your mom was telling me about that.
What are you feeling?
I get angry. There's holes in my wall.
You seem pretty mellow to me. Is that your personality?
No. I really feel that's from an outside influence, man.
-We weren't always like that. -Okay.
Everything about this room feels off.
[sighs] What is going on?
There's a dead man who committed suicide.
How would this suicidal man be affecting the living here?
He's especially affecting the kid in this room.
He's affecting his sleep.
It's dangerous
because the living, they're getting depressed.
It's gonna get a lot worse if things don't change.
All right, hold up.
This is really bad.
[Steve] So, Pedro, I was talking to your wife.
Cynthia told me that you and her are having problems
with your moods in the house.
-Do you agree with that? -Yeah, I do.
Getting home from work or wherever,
I start to tense up, I start to feel angry, I start to feel anxious.
And that's all the time.
Do you feel it's affecting the marriage at all?
-Because she does. -Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely affecting the marriage.
Now, what about experiences that you've had?
-Can you tell about it? -Yeah.
I woke up one night being choked.
-Did it feel like hands around you? -Yep.
So, now, the hands that were around your neck,
could you tell if it was a male or a female?
No, it just felt very strong.
How long did it last?
10 seconds.
Anything else you can tell me?
Just the bad financial luck
where it's to where I can't keep up with my bills,
falling behind, almost going bankrupt.
Well, in this economy lots of us have money problems.
What makes you think it's paranormal though?
Well, our mother said the land was cursed.
-I believe it's the land. -Okay.
I'm seeing an angry dead man.
He says he's lost everything.
How does he interact with the living?
I feel like he causes problems in the house.
Like, he wants this family's house to fall apart.
I feel like I'm in a string of bad luck with finances.
He wants them to lose their money.
He wants them to lose their home.
He affects the mind in a way where they'll start making bad business decisions
or start doing foolish things with money.
That's his agenda.
[Steve] Anything else you can tell me?
[Pedro] Yeah, blessing the yard,
when I came to the mesquite tree, I was doing my prayer,
and the minute I started my prayer
it sounded like 1,000 birds took off.
And it was a clear night
so I could see the tree was still, completely still.
All right, so you have a sound of a bunch of birds taking off,
but no physical evidence of it other than the hearing it?
-Right. -I've never heard that one before.
And it scared me.
So, do you think the prayer set this whole thing off?
-That night I do, yes. -Okay.
Your wife thinks there's a demon here. What do you think is here?
Just evil spirits.
All right.
[Cindy] So, we have this inhuman force
not only inside the house but can be outside the house.
And I see the energy of this thing.
It's created a field around the entire home.
When you're looking out this window down here, shadows.
Shadow figure back and forth.
I see birds flying into windows.
I'm seeing a young girl in this house.
She's being oppressed,
so she's not possessed but there's an oppression happening.
Okay, can you elaborate on that a little bit?
It's like starting to lose time, you're not yourself.
You can be rageful, you can be mean, you can be depressed.
So we're not at possession yet but it's almost there.
I am 100% sure that we're dealing with something demonic.
I'm here because I want to help this family,
but I want to get out of here as quickly as we can.
It's dangerous for everyone.
[Steve] I've done quite a few investigations in Tucson,
so I reached out to a bunch of contacts that I've worked with before.
I just heard back from a genealogist friend of mine.
She tells me one of the first owners of my client's land
was a high society medical doctor
who suffered nothing but tragedy
the second he and his wife bought the property.
So, Bridgette, thanks for helping me out with this case.
Okay, so, this high society couple, what do we know about 'em?
Mabel and Doctor Stirley Davis,
they moved to the area in about 1920.
Okay, so where did they come from?
-They came from Oklahoma. -Okay.
So when they got here did they have a family or were they gonna start one?
They already had two kids when they got here,
and then, five years after they got here in 1925,
they had Stirley Davis Junior.
-So now they got three kids? -Yes.
So, now, you mentioned that this guy was a bigwig.
-Is that just because he was a doctor? -No.
[Bridgette] He was also the president of the Chamber of Commerce,
and he was the president of the Pima County Medical Association.
All right, so what about his wife?
His wife also was involved in the community
because she was part of the board of directors
of the Arizona Children's Home.
Okay, so they were really influential
-around town. -They were.
All right, so, do we know when they acquired my client's property?
Yeah, he bought the land in 1929.
So when did things go bad for them?
Well, in November of 1929,
young Stirley Junior, he was only four years old,
was playing outside with Margaret.
And he ran into the street and was struck by a car.
Okay, does he get killed?
-Yes, and this is his death record. -Ah, jeez.
All right, so this is tragic. I couldn't even imagine losing a child.
-Uh, did things get better for them? -No.
Two years later, the family suffers another tragedy,
this time with their daughter Margaret, and she was just 15.
I mean, jeez, what the hell happened?
Margaret was out with five of her friends
and she wanted to go to a slumber party.
They ran into a friend of theirs, Charles Fowler,
who offered to give them a ride.
Only problem is his car didn't have enough room,
so there were a few inside the car
and then there were some that were on the outside on the running boards.
Oh, okay, I can see where this is going.
[Bridgette] So as he was driving, another car hit their car.
And it just so happened to hit the side
where Margaret was at,
and she died on impact, and here's the obituary.
[Steve] I can't imagine losing one child,
but losing two within two years and from car accidents?
This is insane.
Please tell me things got better for them.
No, tragedy strikes their family a third time.
Dr. Stirley dies of heart disease in 1943,
and here's his death certificate.
[Steve] Jeez, he was only 60.
All right, so, I'm thinking of the wife right now, Mabel,
losing two kids,
and then her husband dies relatively young.
She had to be out of her mind.
[Cindy] I'm seeing that dead lady again.
Don't know if it's Margaret, or Margery, or Mary, or it's like...
She doesn't want people talking about her business.
She comes from money. She's connected to this land.
But she doesn't want this family to be happy.
I feel like she had a son who would have died.
There's a connection to having a kid who died.
This woman will only leave this house
if she can take the boy with her
because somebody killed her son.
I'm seeing cigarette smoke everywhere. I'm smelling cigarette smoke.
I can hear her coughing, and coughing, and coughing, and coughing.
She had cancer. Like, she's here, she's pissed off, she's angry.
This is a mess.
This is, like, a hot mess.
[Steve] So I did some follow-up on Mabel Davis.
She died of cancer at the age of 60.
A short and tragic life.
But here's what I found weird.
Turns out she sold my client's land
the same year her husband died,
but the next owner only kept it for 14 months.
So I'm heading over to meet a local historian I've worked with before.
Now, he says there's a good reason
the next owner didn't hold on to the land for long.
The second he bought it he ran into some terrible financial luck.
[Steve] So it's good to see you again, Marshall. Thanks for helping me out.
So I understand that this guy suffered a lot
after Mabel Davis sold him the property.
Who the hell was he?
So, Doctor Earl Brown was an eye, ear, nose, throat doctor
who worked for the Thomas Davis Clinics.
In fact, he wound up running the entire organization.
[Steve] So after Doctor Davis dies of heart disease,
his wife sells the land to this guy
-who took over the medical clinic? -Right.
Okay, you said this guy had bad financial luck. What happened?
So, the same year that he buys the land,
there is a patient, Jesus Lopez,
-Okay. -who winds up falling down a set of badly marked stairs
and causes him to die.
And so there is then a wrongful death lawsuit
for $35,000 against the clinic.
All right, so 35 grand, that's a lot of money in the mid '40s.
It was a lot of money, and so we think, at this point,
that's why Dr. Brown had to sell the property to pay for the lawsuit.
-And it gets even worse. -Okay, so what happened?
He's named in a federal anti-trust lawsuit.
He's accused of raising the prices of eye glasses
and then pocketing the difference.
-Okay, so this guy's trying to recover from the lawsuit. -Right.
What happens next?
Basically, he then developed hypertension
and suffers a massive stroke.
He is rushed to the hospital.
Three hours later, he passes away at the age of 49.
Okay, so he's a young guy.
Cerebral hemorrhage, so he must have suffered before he died.
So it sounds like this guy's bad decisions all started with
-him buying the land my clients live on. -Right.
[Cindy] The guy who lost everything, he's here.
He keeps saying, "They took everything I had.
They robbed me, they robbed me."
-So this is in the past, -Mmm-hmm.
but it's connected to this land.
Feels like he's robbed of his livelihood,
that everything's stolen from him,
and he sees this family with a nice house, with things,
and it pisses him off.
"They took my land, they took my house, they took everything I owned.
I want revenge." That's what I'm hearing.
"I'm out for blood."
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[Steve] So I just got a call from a retired homicide detective.
He tells me there was a crazy case
that happened right near Cynthia's house.
It involved a drug dealer and a couple of bloodthirsty hitmen.
When all was said and done, three people were murdered.
[Steve] So, Bill, you mentioned on the phone
that this case had all kinds of twists and turns to it.
Let's start at the beginning. Who even started this mess?
19-year-old Damien.
Damien Jasso.
He's a drug dealer in Tucson.
All right, so we got this 19-year-old drug dealer. What happens next?
In early 1997, there was a incident that happened
where two masked gunmen came into his residence and terrorized his family.
Okay, so we've got a home invasion of a drug dealer
-which is not uncommon. -Yes, right.
So what happens next?
-Well, he believes he knows one of the guys that did this. -Okay.
And he hires two hitmen to go rough 'em up.
-One person is Jesus Sanchez. -Okay.
The other is Cecil Rodriguez, also known as Maníaco
-which means "maniac" in English. -[chuckling] Yeah.
Yeah, that I know. [chuckles]
You work the streets long enough
you pick up a lot of stuff.
All right, so we got two armed guys with Jasso here.
What happens next?
They go to the wrong address,
which is about 3,000ft from your client's residence,
and they spot a guy working on his car.
They open up gunfire, kill him.
All right, so do these two idiots realize they killed the wrong guy?
-Yes, they do. -Okay.
Couple of hours later, they track down the guy they were supposed to hit,
Israel Lopez,
and they shoot and kill him.
All right, now, how far is that from my client's residence?
It's 4,000ft.
-All right, so this is all relatively close? -Yes.
-So now we've got two dead bodies. -Correct.
-When we spoke you said there was three homicides. -Yes.
How does the third body show up?
Well, these two go back to Jasso
and say, "Listen, we killed an extra body.
We want five grand and some cocaine."
-You're joking? -No.
Does he give it to 'em?
No, Jasso tells 'em to pack sand.
All right, so now we got...
...Jasso telling 'em to go to hell, but what happens?
They go after the person that was involved in this with Jasso,
-the middle man, -Okay.
and they can't locate him either.
So they go after the next best thing
which is his 35-year-old uncle.
They end up taking him, kidnapping him, shooting him three times,
put him in a car and setting it on fire,
and he dies.
All right, so we got Jasso, Rodriguez, and Sanchez involved in this whole mess.
Did the cops ever get any kind of lead on these guys?
Jesus Sanchez is caught a few days after
-the last murder. -Okay.
And he's caught in a home invasion
and actually has the weapon on him
that he used in one of the murders.
All right. Thank God they're stupid, right?
All right, so we got a good case against this guy.
Does he wind up copping a plea or going to trial?
No, he goes to trial, and he's found guilty by the jury
and sentenced to life in prison
without the possibility of parole.
All right, so we got Sanchez. What about the other two guys?
They do get Jasso, the person that started all this,
but he enters a plea deal.
He only gets probation and he only has to serve 90 days in jail.
What about the other hitman?
The other hitman, Maníaco,
goes on the run for about ten years down to Mexico.
Ten years later, my partner gets a call on homicide
as I'm sitting there.
Maníaco,he fried himself down in Mexico.
He was pulling cable out of a high-tension wire, pulling copper wiring,
and got electrocuted.
Killed himself.
-That's justice right there, right? -Amen.
[Cindy] I saw a lot of terrifying things during my walk,
but the dead woman tormenting a living woman in bed,
that has me really worried.
So there's a dead woman who was super angry,
and she was pulling the leg of the woman sleeping in the bed
and trying to yank her out of the bed.
She had longer hair. Like, it was, I could see it was gray.
Yeah, I think, um, she's just a little bit shorter
and a little bit more frail.
Cindy, is that what you saw?
That's definitely what I saw.
[Steve] Now that Cindy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings
to each other, and our clients, for the first time.
So, Cindy, I'd like you to meet Cynthia and Pedro.
Now, they live here with their son, Adam.
This is Adam right here.
Now, these guys have been married for 33 years.
But the way things are going in this house,
they're not gonna make it to 34.
So here's the problem.
Cynthia can't take the activity anymore,
and she actually is hoping you'll tell her that they can't stay.
But Pedro, he doesn't want to leave.
And he's praying you can show him a way
to kick out whatever the hell it is that's torturing them.
So now that Cindy knows a little bit about you guys,
she'll tell us about her walk.
[Cindy] I'm gonna start talking about the phenomenon
that's going on inside the house.
So, during my walk I saw dishes falling off the shelves.
I saw the refrigerator open and food falling out.
I saw things flying around.
What you're experiencing is intense poltergeist activity.
So, on a scale from one to ten,
I feel like this house is a 15.
[Steve] Wow.
So, Cynthia, I'm gonna start with you.
Let's talk about, um, well,
the pebbles and the banging in the kitchen.
I will hear pebbles getting thrown at my windows
-underneath my cabinet. -Mmm-hmm.
Now, she mentioned about doors slamming.
You had the freezer door do a number on you.
Yes, I was in front of the freezer door, getting water,
and it just slammed right into me
from the inside out.
-Is this all poltergeist stuff, or... -Poltergeist activity.
[Steve] Okay.
And it's really intense poltergeist activity,
so you have every right to be afraid.
[Steve] So we got poltergeist activity. What else is going on?
There are three dead people causing a lot of problems in this house.
And each one of these people are focused on a different family member.
The first one I want to talk about is the "lost everything" man.
He told me that everything had been taken from him in life,
and because of that he doesn't want people in this house to do well.
He's targeting whoever makes financial decisions in this home.
So I'm guessing that you guys probably feel like you've run into some financial bad luck.
He wants to see you fail just like he did,
and he wants to see you lose his home because he lost his home.
It seems like every time I think I'm moving forward
I end up going backwards, financially,
and I can't figure out why.
-And I never had this problem until here. -Yeah.
[Steve] So, Cindy, do you have any idea
who this bad luck guy was when he was alive?
I sense that he had his livelihood stolen from him.
I heard him say, "They took my land. They took my land.
And they took my house."
This guy sees you and your family.
He sees you have a house, he sees you have nice things, and it really makes him angry.
He's seeking revenge, and, quite frankly, he's out for blood.
He's a former owner of the land who lost everything.
His name was Doctor Earl Brown. I got a photo of him.
Back in those days in the 1940s,
he was a prominent eye, ear, nose, and throat doctor
who ran a local clinic in the area.
So he bought this property back in 1944.
-And from that moment on, his finances went to hell. -Wow.
[Steve] So the same year he bought the property,
a patient at the clinic died in a slip-and-fall accident.
Nothing to do with malpractice.
But the victim's family sued for 35 grand which was a fortune back then.
Now, Dr. Brown settled, but he put himself in a deep hole
and had to sell off your land the next year.
In total, he only had your property for, like, 14 months.
So the guy was ruined.
By 1952, he was suffering from hypertension.
He suffers a stroke and he drops dead.
So on his death certificate it shows he was only 49 years old.
That's young.
[Steve] Now, is it possible
this guy Earl could be the guy who lost everything?
I mean, sure.
And what's interesting to me is that he came here,
was here for 14 months, and lost everything.
-I mean, it's like immediate financial ruin. -Yeah.
[Steve] So you said there were three active dead people here. Who's the second one?
So the second dead person that I saw was a dead man.
He felt to me like he was in his late 30s or early 40s.
I think this guy killed himself in the late '90s, early 2000s.
He's very focused on whoever lives in
the first bedroom on the second floor.
[Steve] And that's Adam's room?
-[Cynthia] That's Adam's room, yes. -[Steve] Okay.
So I feel like Adam must have seen this guy before,
and this dead guy also changes his mood.
-Mmm. -Mmm.
-He's making him feel depressed. -[whispering] Yeah.
I didn't come across any suicides in my investigation,
but when I spoke with Adam he told me he was feeling down and angry.
He's depressed, he has anxiety,
and he flies off the handle.
Tell her about the accident.
He had an accident in 2016...
-...and, um, he suffered a traumatic brain injury. -[Cindy] Mmm.
And he was in a coma for, like, four days.
He pulled through.
He's a good, good-hearted kid.
-Mmm-hmm. And he's also very open. -Yes.
That makes sense.
Makes a lot of sense. [sighing] Yeah.
[Cindy] So the third dead person that I want to talk about
is the one that I'm most worried about.
The woman.
She's very present, she's very dangerous,
and she's very focused on the woman in the house.
One of the biggest things that she can do
is she can make people fight.
-[scoffs] -[Pedro] Oh, yeah.
-Yeah. -All of a sudden, you'll just feel vicious rage.
We don't get along, any of us.
We're always in a rage, we're always angry,
-we're always fighting with each other. -Mmm-hmm.
When I start walking towards the house I still feel pretty good.
But then, once I get through the doors, feel a heaviness.
Like, it just hits, it hits me.
And then I start getting agitated. The littlest things bother me.
Mmm-hmm.
And you guys are worried
that this is gonna cause a problem with your marriage.
It already is.
-It already is. -Yeah.
We just can't stand [chuckling softly] each other.
So, Cindy, can this dead woman do anything else
besides make them fight?
Yeah, I mean, she can get really physical.
She's pushing people, she's pulling hair.
She pulls the covers off people...
...pulls their legs.
And I had a sketch done of what I saw.
You did say you don't like sleeping in there, right?
[inhales]
You're so scared of that room.
I told you somebody is bothering me. [inhales]
[Pedro] And I keep on fooling myself with, "Let's be realistic.
I'm fooling myself. I know what's here."
[Steve] Cindy, there's been a lot of physical attacks.
Cynthia wakes up with scratches and bruises.
-This is a photo of the scratches on your back. -[Cindy] Wow.
[Cynthia] Yes.
Remember how I asked you to show me how you got shoved?
Yes. I was walking down the stairs and I got just shoved.
I just fell down on the floor.
-Now, Pedro, you got choked in bed, right? -Mmm-hmm, yeah.
Tell her about that.
Well, sleeping and felt pressure. Woke me up.
Couldn't breathe. Felt like I was choking.
Looking around because there's nothing there, but I'm freaking out.
Did you get anything else on her?
I did get that she came from money.
I know that she was from around here.
And I feel like she had a son who died,
and obviously that made her really upset.
I kept hearing the name "Margaret" or "Mary."
And I heard her coughing a lot,
and that coughing made me feel like
she would have passed away from cancer.
She was very sick when she died.
[Steve] So I have an idea who she might be talking about.
There's a woman named Mabel Davis
who owned this land from 1929 to 1943.
Her husband, Doctor Stirley Davis,
he was a bigshot who co-owned the Thomas-Davis clinic.
And they had clinics all over the damn place.
But buying this land was the worst decision they ever made.
About five weeks after they bought it,
the couple's four-year-old son
was playing in front of the house.
-He ran out in the street and got hit by a car. -Oh, my God.
He was rushed to the hospital but he died a few hours later.
Um, I have his death certificate here.
Fractured skull is what killed him.
[inhales]
Now, this is gonna, it just, it freaked me out when she said it.
Two years after they lost their four-year-old son,
the couple's 15-year-old daughter Margaret
-[gasps] -was also killed in a car accident.
Oh, my God.
-[Steve] And I, I have... -Oh, this is crazy.
And I have her obit here.
Now, the couple was left with one surviving child.
But the stress got to Doctor Davis,
and he died of heart disease at the age of 60.
Now, after that, Mabel sold the property.
She died in 1959 in a rest home
of, just like you said, cancer.
It's definitely Mabel.
[whispering] Wow.
[Steve] Please tell me we're done.
[Cindy] No, unfortunately, there is more.
There is definitely some sort of inhuman demonic force in this house.
This thing can create shadow figures.
I saw birds flying into windows.
Wow.
While I was doing a blessing one night,
it sounded like 1,000 birds took off.
It was a clear night.
I could see through the tree,
and no birds and no branches moving.
Nothing. It scared me.
You mentioned that this thing creates shadow figures.
Adam saw a shadow figure in front of the house,
-coming home one night. -Mmm-hmm.
So now the big question is what the hell does this demon want?
When I walked upstairs, I went into the girls' room.
-Mmm. -[Steve] Okay, so that room
-is their granddaughters' room. -Granddaughters' room.
[Steve] They come visit here a lot.
Unfortunately, I feel like it has its sights set on one of the girls.
She might start becoming short-tempered, aggressive, mean.
I feel like the situation is pretty dangerous.
Does this ring a bell for anyone?
[sighs] Yeah.
Yeah, it does.
-[Steve] It does? -Yes.
Sometimes I'll look at her and I swear she's looking right through me.
-Mmm-hmm. -And I just stare in her eyes like I'm staring into yours,
but it look like I'm seeing something else.
-And this is a little girl? -A little girl.
She's never been like that, right?
[Pedro and Cynthia] No.
[Cynthia] I'm terrified.
I'm very terrified.
And it's not just the girls that are in danger,
it's your entire family.
-[Cynthia] Yes. -[Cindy] It's everyone.
-I'm sorry. -[Cindy] Um.
-Can I just get up for a minute? -[Steve] Yeah.
[Steve] So, guys, I'm about to make
the understatement of the year.
You have a hell of a lot going on here.
So now it's time to answer the big question.
Is there any way to fight back against all of this?
Or is time to do what Cynthia's wanted all along?
Move out and make a fresh start somewhere else?
For those answers, I'm gonna turn it over to my partner Cindy.
I know you probably know what I'm about to say,
-Yeah, I do. -and it's a very hard pill to swallow,
but you have to get out of this house.
It's not safe for your family to stay here.
I knew it was coming.
I just, like I said, I was in denial.
But I know what I needed,
and I just knew it was gonna be
what I'm hearing right now.
I am relieved.
What I felt all this time, that we needed to leave from this house
because it was not safe for our family.
And to hear it from you, now I know that it's not just me.
-You're not crazy. -I'm not crazy, no.
[Steve] You know, I don't know what you guys are gonna do,
but if they do leave the property and settle someplace else
their marriage will get back to normal.
I really think that it will.
Okay, so what about their granddaughter
that's being targeted by this demon?
[Cindy] I don't think that the kids are safe here.
Those girls can't be here.
I'd keep 'em away until you make a decision.
-We already made it. -Yeah, we made it already.
I'm gonna sell it.
-At the end of things, your family comes first. -Right.
-Yes. -So, I know, Cynthia, this is what you wanted to hear,
but, you know, it's still bad news.
-It's still bad news. -Yeah.
And I'm sad.
Because it was, it was supposed to be our dream home.
[Cindy] Mmm-hmm.
We can build one more.
[whispering] Yeah.
-Thank you. -Yeah.
Thank you. Very grateful to everybody.
[Cindy] Telling a family to leave their dream home
is the last thing I want to do,
but this house and the land it sits on is beyond saving.
I really hope they follow my advice
and move as quickly as possible.
If they do, their relationship will begin to heal
and their grandkids can visit as often as they want.
Hello, Steve and Cindy.
We want to thank you for all your help.
[Pedro] We have contacted the archdiocese
and they are sending a priest out to bless our home.
We've also contacted a shaman.
And if there is no change we will move forward in the sale of our home.
We appreciate everything you guys did for us.
-Thank you. -Thank you.