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[Amy Allan] There's this thing
and it's really, really big.
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And it feels bad.
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Very dark.
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I could see yellow eyes,
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and this thing was,
like, seven foot tall.
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[Amy] It was summoned
by somebody.
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Bad, bad witch.
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[Wandah] This person
did bring something in here,
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and when she left,
she left it here.
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and when she left,
she left it here.
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So, I wanna talk
about the bloodbath.
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Their bodies were taken out
and buried in unmarked graves.
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This thing could cause mayhem
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and hell and death
and destruction.
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This is my passion,
this is my dream,
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and he is not running me out.
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[Amy] Whoever
the [bleep] this is
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definitely didn't want me
to come here and find
this out.
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Man, I don't like this.
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There's this thing
that comes up.
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And it's bad.
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Very bad.
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It tries to prevent me
from going in.
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And I was like,
"Okay, that's weird,"
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and it was like
really, really big.
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Like huge.
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[exhales deeply]
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Sorry, I am not
totally feeling well.
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[door creaking]
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[Amy] Whatever this is,
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it's driving me insane.
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[Steve DiSchiavi]
I'm here in the city
of Madison, Alabama,
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just outside of Huntsville.
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I got a call
from a lady named Lisa
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who owns a metaphysical shop.
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Now, you'd think people
in that line of work
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would be okay
with the paranormal,
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but Lisa sounds scared.
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She says something is
attacking her and her
customers...
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She says something is
attacking her and her
customers...
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...and threatening
to destroy the business.
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She says if we
can't help her...
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...she's gonna shut
the whole place down.
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So, Lisa, this is quite
a shop you got here.
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But you've got this problem,
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and when we
spoke on the phone,
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it sounded pretty bad.
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What the hell's going
on in this place?
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[Lisa] I'm scared
for my customers.
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It's escalated to the point
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where people are being
ran out of here, attacked,
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where people are being
ran out of here, attacked,
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scratched, pushed, touched.
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Customers are leaving,
not coming back.
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-I'm sorry.
-[Steve] No, don't be.
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You know what, it's not easy
to have to deal with this.
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And I keep apologizing
to my customers...
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...and, "We're gonna fix it,
we're gonna fix it,"
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and I keep apologizing
and I'm tired of apologizing.
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Yeah.
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All right, so, Lisa,
it's obviously
a metaphysical store.
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[Lisa] Mmm-hmm.
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What exactly are you
guys doing here?
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[Lisa] We sell our crystals,
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[Lisa] We sell our crystals,
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I do the handmade soy candles.
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Uh, we have a palm
reader, tarot reader,
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we have an energies reader,
we try to help people,
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and guide them through
their life path.
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So, do you run this
place by yourself,
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you got a staff,
what's going on?
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This is a picture
of all my staff.
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This is Wandah,
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she does all
the magnificent artwork.
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Of course, that's me, and then
that's my husband, Ed,
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he's the carpenter.
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Then Carolyn, she does
the energy sessions.
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Then Carolyn, she does
the energy sessions.
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So, Lisa, do me a favor
and, uh, give me a list
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of, uh, what you guys
are experiencing here.
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[Lisa] We're hearing voices.
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We've been seeing
shadow figures.
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It's physically
attacking some of us.
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-[Steve] Okay.
-Especially the customers.
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Like the lady
that got scratched.
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-She was upstairs
in that room up here...
-[Steve] Okay.
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...and she came flying
down the stairs,
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I could hear her run,
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she said, "You got
a witch upstairs,
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and she doesn't want me here,"
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-and she flew out that door.
-Really?
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Yeah.
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Are you guys doing seances,
Ouija board stuff,
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summoning the dead,
breaking their balls,
you know?
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No, sir.
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-[Steve] Okay.
-I do not allow that
in my shop,
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but I had a medium here.
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I'll be totally honest,
that's when the activity
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really got out of hand,
after she left.
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[Steve] Okay, that could
be really important.
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We'll see what Amy says.
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Would it be easier just
to close shop and move on?
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If I had to shut
this place down,
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it would literally
break my heart.
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Okay.
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You've got my back,
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and I don't want
to be scared anymore.
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[chuckling] Okay.
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[chuckling] Okay.
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-[Lisa] I'm sorry,
I didn't think I do this.
-[Steve] Yeah.
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I just wanna say you
guys just don't know
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how much it means
to me that you're here.
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[Amy] I'm seeing
that huge thing.
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It's not that old.
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Like, it's been here
since, like, the 1850s,
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and it was summoned
by somebody
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to cause problems.
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Like, I feel like
it's coming in here.
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I don't like it.
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I just heard, "Witchcraft,"
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and it feels bad,
negative, very dark.
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I feel like somebody here
likes practicing this, like...
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...dark magic and,
like, has made, like,
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a relationship with this
evil [bleep] thing
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that's been here
for a long ass time.
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So, there aware of it?
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This person was
always practicing, like,
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not good magic,
and this thing,
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you know, they,
like, came together.
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you know, they,
like, came together.
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This person is...
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...not a, not a good person.
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Do you have any idea
what this person's...
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...relationship is
to the place here?
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Maybe they work here?
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I will say this,
whoever the [bleep] this is...
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...definitely didn't want
me to come here and find
this out...
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...because that thing
tried to prevent me
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from even going into the room
to meet dead people.
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So, it seems we're
deeper into the store here.
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So, what's going on?
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Well, we've got
security footage
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of the back door flying open,
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and nobody was
around that door.
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Okay, we're talking about
this door back in here?
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[Lisa] Yes.
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[Steve] You said you caught it
on video surveillance, right?
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[Lisa] Yes.
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Whoa!
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Whoa!
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All right, this looks like it
might have been a storm,
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was it windy that day?
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A little bit, yes,
it was windy,
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that's why when the stuff
flew off the shelves,
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I attributed that to the wind.
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[Steve] Right, but could
the wind have blown
the door open?
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[Lisa] No, it's deadbolted.
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The only way to open that
door is with a key.
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Right, and you're sure nobody
went back there, opened it
up by accident?
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No, sir.
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Okay, anything else?
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I'll be at the register,
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and something will come up
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and start tapping
on the back of my head.
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and start tapping
on the back of my head.
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Is it a...
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No, no, it's not hard.
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It was more like,
"Hey, I'm here."
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Okay.
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And every once in a while,
I feel like somebody's...
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...got my gut in a grip.
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It's like somebody's
squeezing me inside.
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And how long does
the pain last?
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-Just a few seconds.
-Okay, but enough
to get you...
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Yeah, enough to get
my attention,
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and it'll go away.
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[Steve] All right, so,
anything else you can
tell me about?
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Well, my motion
detector went off,
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so, when I got up,
I checked my phone,
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and lo and behold,
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and lo and behold,
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I saw a child
in the middle of the store.
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Unfortunately, I do not
have the footage anymore.
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It was wearing a nightdress,
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-curly blondish hair,
seven or eight years old
-Okay.
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Did it look solid or was
it an apparition?
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It was an apparition.
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Okay.
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[Amy] I was shown...
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...a little boy.
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So, about five years old,
I guess.
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Wouldn't speak.
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So, with this kid,
I start, like,
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So, with this kid,
I start, like,
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I keep swallowing
and swallowing and swallowing,
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it's, like, okay, maybe it was
a drowning death of some type.
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This kid pops out, okay,
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and he's like, "Ha, ha, ha!"
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But I think that the living
somehow hear this,
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like, I think they would hear
laughter or something up here.
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Talking.
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He's angry. Angry little kid.
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He wants attention, and this
is causing problems.
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He wants attention, and this
is causing problems.
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What kind of problems?
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Breaking things,
moving things...
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uh, and throwing things.
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Okay, Lisa, so,
why'd you bring me
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to this part of the store?
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[Lisa] Because that's where
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everybody feels
the most uncomfortable.
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-I won't go up there...
-Okay.
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...unless I absolutely
have to.
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Okay, so, what's happening
that makes you so scared
up here?
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Every time I come
down those stairs,
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I feel like something's trying
to push me down them.
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How often does that happen?
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Every time.
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All right, anything else?
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Now, I think something
from upstairs followed
me home.
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One night I was
making my candles,
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and all of a sudden,
I feel this branding burn
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on my leg...
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-Okay.
-...and when I looked down,
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the scratches started forming
right in front of my eyes.
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I was scared out of my mind,
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I was scared out of my mind,
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but I got the feeling
from behind me,
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and when I turned
around and looked,
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I could see yellow eyes
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and this thing was,
like, seven foot tall,
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and it felt so evil
and so creepy.
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It just, it scared the living
nightmare out of me.
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Well, maybe it's trying
to show you what it's
capable of
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or look like to scare you.
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Well, I could also
hear in my head,
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"I can do what I want to you."
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It was a very, very deep,
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gruff, rough voice.
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gruff, rough voice.
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Like something out of a--
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[in low voice]
"I can do whatever I...
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I mean, just the growl
in the voice.
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All right, so, what do
you think this thing wants?
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Whatever the hell it is.
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I think it wants
to hurt somebody.
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Especially me.
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Okay.
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[Amy] That huge thing that
was summoned creeps me out.
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So, it was very, very large,
251
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and, uh, like skeletal-ish.
252
00:10:57,166 --> 00:10:59,867
Didn't have, like,
legs or anything,
253
00:10:59,867 --> 00:11:00,000
it just kinda ended
with a lower spine.
254
00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,266
it just kinda ended
with a lower spine.
255
00:11:02,266 --> 00:11:04,867
So, it had, like,
a long spinal column,
256
00:11:04,867 --> 00:11:06,467
there was, like, no nose,
257
00:11:06,467 --> 00:11:09,734
you know, it's pretty
skeletal looking,
258
00:11:09,734 --> 00:11:11,367
but there's still
some kind of...
259
00:11:13,266 --> 00:11:14,367
...flesh, I guess.
260
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Long white hair just kinda...
261
00:11:17,867 --> 00:11:19,700
...crazy, and so anyways,
262
00:11:19,700 --> 00:11:22,100
it, like, wraps a spine
around me
263
00:11:22,100 --> 00:11:24,634
and is trying to prevent
me from going in.
264
00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:29,734
Was it ever human?
265
00:11:29,734 --> 00:11:30,000
If it was, it's,
like, evil now.
266
00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,734
If it was, it's,
like, evil now.
267
00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:34,100
Like, there's no...
268
00:11:35,867 --> 00:11:38,500
...humanity left in it.
269
00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:40,533
I mean, what would you
call it at this point?
270
00:11:41,867 --> 00:11:43,066
Evil.
271
00:12:01,734 --> 00:12:03,533
[Steve] So, Ed, I was talking
to wife, Lisa, earlier,
272
00:12:03,533 --> 00:12:05,467
and, uh, she's really
concerned about
273
00:12:05,467 --> 00:12:07,634
the paranormal
activity in this place.
274
00:12:07,634 --> 00:12:10,467
What are your thoughts
on that as far as what
she's telling me?
275
00:12:10,467 --> 00:12:13,467
[Ed] Well, I'm really
concerned about her
safety here.
276
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I'm really, uh,
277
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I'm really, uh,
278
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hoping y'all don't find
anything bad here
279
00:12:17,467 --> 00:12:20,900
because it's really bothering
her and I'm really concerned
about that.
280
00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:23,000
[Steve] So, as far as
experiences go,
281
00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:23,867
have you had any?
282
00:12:23,867 --> 00:12:25,700
[Ed] When I was
doing renovations,
283
00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:26,867
I would hear some voices.
284
00:12:26,867 --> 00:12:28,634
Like, you think
you hear something,
285
00:12:28,634 --> 00:12:31,100
and you turn around
and there's nothing there.
286
00:12:31,100 --> 00:12:34,367
Did it sound like
the voice was aggressive
287
00:12:34,367 --> 00:12:35,600
or just normal?
288
00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,734
Just normal.
289
00:12:36,734 --> 00:12:39,533
Just like a low voice.
290
00:12:39,533 --> 00:12:41,734
But I couldn't even
understand what it was saying.
291
00:12:41,734 --> 00:12:43,100
Is there anything else
you can tell me about?
292
00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:44,737
Yes, one time I was
working upstairs,
293
00:12:44,737 --> 00:12:45,867
Yes, one time I was
working upstairs,
294
00:12:45,867 --> 00:12:49,467
and I turned and looked
and saw a man standing
on the stairs.
295
00:12:49,467 --> 00:12:50,900
So, what, you got
a good look at this guy?
296
00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:54,467
Yes, yes, he was a very
big, hefty, rough guy.
297
00:12:54,467 --> 00:12:56,367
-I could pick him
out of a lineup.
-Okay.
298
00:12:56,367 --> 00:12:57,634
He was a well-built man.
299
00:12:57,634 --> 00:13:01,100
He had an overcoat on,
beard, mustache,
300
00:13:01,100 --> 00:13:02,867
kinda rough looking, unshaven,
301
00:13:03,367 --> 00:13:05,634
uh, a flat-brimmed hat.
302
00:13:05,634 --> 00:13:08,467
Any idea what time period this
clothing could have been from?
303
00:13:08,467 --> 00:13:10,800
It looked to be about
18th Century clothing.
304
00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,066
[Steve] Okay.
305
00:13:12,066 --> 00:13:13,700
So, we're gonna try to figure
out what the hell's going
on here,
306
00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:14,737
but let me ask you a question,
307
00:13:14,737 --> 00:13:15,100
but let me ask you a question,
308
00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:17,166
if anybody tells your wife
that, you know,
309
00:13:17,166 --> 00:13:19,467
"This place can't be fixed,
you gotta get the hell out
of here,"
310
00:13:19,467 --> 00:13:21,066
what's your thoughts on that?
311
00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,266
Uh, if it can't be fixed,
312
00:13:23,266 --> 00:13:26,166
then, yeah, we'll probably
try to find another place
313
00:13:26,166 --> 00:13:30,166
because I don't need anything
bad to happen to my wife.
314
00:13:33,367 --> 00:13:35,333
[Amy] So, there's some
dude running around.
315
00:13:36,533 --> 00:13:38,100
He doesn't stop running.
316
00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:40,533
He keeps running around,
running around, running
around.
317
00:13:40,533 --> 00:13:41,467
[sinister whispering]
318
00:13:41,467 --> 00:13:44,367
He was here before,
he's here now.
319
00:13:44,367 --> 00:13:44,737
He's almost solid white.
320
00:13:44,737 --> 00:13:46,734
He's almost solid white.
321
00:13:46,734 --> 00:13:49,634
Kind of misty, but solid.
322
00:13:49,634 --> 00:13:53,867
Living people are seeing
him as this, like, thick fog,
323
00:13:53,867 --> 00:13:56,100
uh, in the shape of a person.
324
00:13:56,100 --> 00:13:58,533
They would see him, like,
coming from over there,
325
00:13:58,533 --> 00:14:00,634
running through,
running through.
326
00:14:00,634 --> 00:14:02,734
A lot of movement
with this dude.
327
00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,166
So, he's causing problems.
328
00:14:13,634 --> 00:14:14,737
[Steve] So, guys, I appreciate
you meeting me up here.
329
00:14:14,737 --> 00:14:15,634
[Steve] So, guys, I appreciate
you meeting me up here.
330
00:14:15,634 --> 00:14:18,367
When I talk to Lisa,
she wanted nothing to do
with coming up here.
331
00:14:18,367 --> 00:14:19,533
Are you guys
worried about her?
332
00:14:19,533 --> 00:14:22,367
I am sincerely
worried about Lisa.
333
00:14:22,367 --> 00:14:23,533
She's trying to keep
it together.
334
00:14:23,533 --> 00:14:24,734
-[Wandah] She's trying...
-Okay.
335
00:14:24,734 --> 00:14:27,000
...but she's growing weaker.
336
00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,233
Yeah.
337
00:14:28,233 --> 00:14:30,467
So, when you are up here,
what kind of feeling are
you getting?
338
00:14:30,467 --> 00:14:32,800
Feel like someone
is right there...
339
00:14:33,634 --> 00:14:34,800
...and they don't
want you here.
340
00:14:35,533 --> 00:14:37,100
It's kinda creepy.
341
00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:38,867
Wandah, when you're here,
do you feel the same way?
342
00:14:38,867 --> 00:14:40,000
Yes, I do.
343
00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,700
What's it feel like for you?
344
00:14:41,700 --> 00:14:44,737
It feels like there's
a presence around me
345
00:14:44,737 --> 00:14:45,166
It feels like there's
a presence around me
346
00:14:45,166 --> 00:14:48,467
and that they're
watching what I do.
347
00:14:48,467 --> 00:14:50,600
So, Wandah, what else
have you experienced?
348
00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,367
Hearing knocking on the walls.
349
00:14:52,367 --> 00:14:54,166
Nobody on the other side,
350
00:14:54,734 --> 00:14:56,333
and they'll knock three times.
351
00:14:57,367 --> 00:14:59,467
-Okay, now these
are thick walls.
-Mmm-hmm.
352
00:14:59,467 --> 00:15:00,533
What do you think that is?
353
00:15:00,533 --> 00:15:03,734
I think it's maybe just
letting me know
354
00:15:03,734 --> 00:15:06,367
that we're not alone in here.
355
00:15:06,367 --> 00:15:08,634
So, Carolyn, anything else
you could tell me about it?
356
00:15:08,634 --> 00:15:09,800
[Carolyn] Yes.
357
00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,533
There was a day where
a picture that I had
in my room
358
00:15:13,533 --> 00:15:14,737
just fell on the floor
and went over the table
359
00:15:14,737 --> 00:15:15,266
just fell on the floor
and went over the table
360
00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,367
on to the floor.
361
00:15:17,367 --> 00:15:19,266
-And this picture was hanging?
-Yes.
362
00:15:19,266 --> 00:15:20,467
So, like it got flung?
363
00:15:20,467 --> 00:15:21,734
-Yeah.
-Right. Right.
364
00:15:21,734 --> 00:15:23,467
So, when I was
talking to Lisa earlier,
365
00:15:23,467 --> 00:15:25,600
she mentioned there had
been an employee here
366
00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,734
who was doing her own stuff
367
00:15:27,734 --> 00:15:30,900
that might have been inviting
the wrong type of spirits in.
368
00:15:30,900 --> 00:15:34,634
Do you think that is what
might have caused some
of the problems here?
369
00:15:34,634 --> 00:15:36,867
I feel that this person
370
00:15:36,867 --> 00:15:40,266
did bring something
in here very wrong,
371
00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:43,166
and when she left,
she left it here.
372
00:15:43,166 --> 00:15:44,737
She didn't send it back.
373
00:15:44,737 --> 00:15:44,800
She didn't send it back.
374
00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,467
Okay, and now, do you think
this is something she was
doing on purpose
375
00:15:47,467 --> 00:15:49,166
or that she didn't realize
what she was doing?
376
00:15:49,166 --> 00:15:51,333
-I think she did it
on purpose.
-Okay.
377
00:15:54,266 --> 00:15:56,100
[Amy] That guy who's
running around,
378
00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:57,634
he just seems really...
379
00:15:58,867 --> 00:15:59,967
...strung out.
380
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,367
What the [bleep] his problem?
381
00:16:02,367 --> 00:16:03,367
[sinister whispering]
382
00:16:03,367 --> 00:16:04,734
Ooh, I don't like this guy.
383
00:16:06,367 --> 00:16:10,467
I'm getting something
big happening.
384
00:16:10,467 --> 00:16:13,100
Uh, people are panicked,
they're freaking out,
385
00:16:13,100 --> 00:16:14,634
they're [bleep] terrified.
386
00:16:15,467 --> 00:16:17,734
I'm getting way
too much information.
387
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,734
I'm getting a lot of people
that are scared,
388
00:16:20,734 --> 00:16:22,900
they're scared, they're
panicked, and they're...
389
00:16:24,533 --> 00:16:26,066
...freaking out.
390
00:16:26,900 --> 00:16:28,000
Mmm...
391
00:16:32,367 --> 00:16:34,266
[Steve] So, I'm heading
over to meet a local historian
392
00:16:34,266 --> 00:16:37,266
who reached out with some
news that blew me away.
393
00:16:37,266 --> 00:16:40,967
She discovered Lisa's store
was moved from another
state...
394
00:16:40,967 --> 00:16:44,066
...and that first location
was the scene of a brutal
bloodbath.
395
00:16:51,066 --> 00:16:52,500
Well, Jacque,
thanks for meeting with me
396
00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:55,166
and helping me out with this
case, I appreciate it.
397
00:16:55,166 --> 00:16:57,867
Okay, so, let's get
to the cabin's original
location,
398
00:16:57,867 --> 00:16:59,000
where was that?
399
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,389
[Jacque Procter Reeves]
It was in Taft, Tennessee.
400
00:17:00,389 --> 00:17:00,734
[Jacque Procter Reeves]
It was in Taft, Tennessee.
401
00:17:00,734 --> 00:17:03,867
Okay, so, how far is Taft
from my client's property?
402
00:17:03,867 --> 00:17:06,734
About 20 miles. Just over
the line into Tennessee.
403
00:17:06,734 --> 00:17:07,867
Okay, so, it's pretty close.
404
00:17:07,867 --> 00:17:08,867
Very.
405
00:17:08,867 --> 00:17:10,367
Do you know
when the cabin was built?
406
00:17:10,367 --> 00:17:13,266
It was first
documented in 1835,
407
00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:15,100
although some
of the family descendants
408
00:17:15,100 --> 00:17:17,266
believe it was built
in upper 1790s.
409
00:17:17,266 --> 00:17:20,600
Okay, so, the cabin at some
point comes to my client's
property.
410
00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,700
Who lived in it when it was
first built in Tennessee?
411
00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:26,867
At that time it was
William Bartlett Milam...
412
00:17:26,867 --> 00:17:28,166
-Okay.
-...and his wife Lucinda.
413
00:17:28,166 --> 00:17:30,389
And when he passed away,
it went to the second son,
Wiley.
414
00:17:30,389 --> 00:17:32,867
And when he passed away,
it went to the second son,
Wiley.
415
00:17:32,867 --> 00:17:34,734
[Steve] Okay, so, what do
we know about Wiley?
416
00:17:34,734 --> 00:17:37,166
[Jacque] Wiley was
in the Confederate Army,
417
00:17:37,166 --> 00:17:38,900
serving with Army
of Tennessee.
418
00:17:40,266 --> 00:17:41,600
[Steve] I mean,
there's a lot of history here.
419
00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,634
[Jacque] Yes.
420
00:17:42,634 --> 00:17:44,600
So, I wanna talk
about the bloodbath.
421
00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,533
What's that all about?
What happened?
422
00:17:46,533 --> 00:17:48,467
Sometime before 1863,
423
00:17:48,467 --> 00:17:51,533
four Union soldiers
entered into the cabin,
424
00:17:51,533 --> 00:17:54,266
and they were killed
by someone using
425
00:17:54,266 --> 00:17:56,367
what they called
an Arkansas toothpick.
426
00:17:56,367 --> 00:18:00,389
It was a stylized knife
from that era.
427
00:18:00,389 --> 00:18:00,500
It was a stylized knife
from that era.
428
00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:03,867
[Steve] So, we know that Wiley
served with the Confederates.
429
00:18:03,867 --> 00:18:05,533
-[Jacque] Right.
-And were they there for him?
430
00:18:05,533 --> 00:18:07,367
We do know that
the Union soldiers
431
00:18:07,367 --> 00:18:09,066
could go into anybody's house
432
00:18:09,066 --> 00:18:11,367
and take whatever provisions
that they needed
433
00:18:11,367 --> 00:18:14,533
or they could take whatever
valuables the family had,
434
00:18:14,533 --> 00:18:16,700
and they could send
them back north.
435
00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:17,734
They call that foraging.
436
00:18:17,734 --> 00:18:19,367
Right. Today we
call it robbery.
437
00:18:19,367 --> 00:18:20,533
-That's right
-[chuckling] Okay.
438
00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:23,533
So, we don't know exactly
why they were killed.
439
00:18:23,533 --> 00:18:24,967
Only that they
were not welcome.
440
00:18:24,967 --> 00:18:26,734
We do know that their
bodies were taken out,
441
00:18:26,734 --> 00:18:29,500
and buried in a family
cemetery in unmarked graves.
442
00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:30,389
Okay, so, we got cabin
that was in Tennessee
443
00:18:30,389 --> 00:18:31,500
Okay, so, we got cabin
that was in Tennessee
444
00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:33,266
about 20 miles
from my client's property
445
00:18:33,266 --> 00:18:36,266
where four people were
stabbed to death, basically.
446
00:18:36,266 --> 00:18:39,100
Then it's moved
to where my client is,
447
00:18:39,734 --> 00:18:42,066
and I'm curious
if my client knew
448
00:18:42,066 --> 00:18:44,467
what the hell she was
getting into when she
bought this place.
449
00:18:48,867 --> 00:18:51,634
[Amy] That dude, the dude
who runs around...
450
00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:58,367
...I'm getting a,
something big happening.
451
00:18:58,367 --> 00:19:00,389
Uh, people are panicked,
they're freaking out.
452
00:19:00,389 --> 00:19:01,066
Uh, people are panicked,
they're freaking out.
453
00:19:02,367 --> 00:19:04,367
Something about a robbery.
454
00:19:04,367 --> 00:19:07,867
Uh, like a robbery gone wrong.
455
00:19:07,867 --> 00:19:10,166
Uh, hearing that very loud.
456
00:19:10,166 --> 00:19:13,800
And then that evil thing,
it caused...
457
00:19:14,867 --> 00:19:16,900
...possibly a big fight
458
00:19:17,533 --> 00:19:19,533
that killed a lot of men.
459
00:19:20,867 --> 00:19:23,266
Four people that died
460
00:19:23,266 --> 00:19:27,533
that it directly had something
to do with their death,
461
00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:30,389
and I think it's caused
a lot of issues.
462
00:19:30,389 --> 00:19:30,900
and I think it's caused
a lot of issues.
463
00:19:35,266 --> 00:19:36,367
[Steve] This is unusual,
464
00:19:36,367 --> 00:19:38,867
but I just got a call
from a woman who owns a farm
465
00:19:38,867 --> 00:19:42,000
near the spot where Lisa's
store was first located.
466
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,100
She tells me a bunch of people
are buried in unmarked graves
on her land.
467
00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:47,867
Says the place used
to be a poor farm,
468
00:19:47,867 --> 00:19:49,800
and the conditions
were absolutely brutal.
469
00:19:50,734 --> 00:19:52,333
I gotta see this
place for myself.
470
00:20:00,867 --> 00:20:03,700
So, Shari, what kind of people
were sent to this poor farm?
471
00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:06,066
Basically, a place where
they would send people
472
00:20:06,066 --> 00:20:09,867
whether they were poor
or had some indigent problem
473
00:20:09,867 --> 00:20:11,634
like some kind of disability
474
00:20:11,634 --> 00:20:13,166
and they couldn't
support themselves
475
00:20:13,166 --> 00:20:15,166
or some kind
of physical ailment,
476
00:20:15,166 --> 00:20:17,367
and they just, their families
couldn't care for them.
477
00:20:17,367 --> 00:20:20,433
So, how long was it run
as a poor farm here?
478
00:20:21,266 --> 00:20:23,867
It moved out here in 1874,
479
00:20:23,867 --> 00:20:25,867
and it run nearly 100 years.
480
00:20:25,867 --> 00:20:28,700
It closed down in 1961.
481
00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:30,389
So, on the phone,
you mentioned the conditions
482
00:20:30,389 --> 00:20:30,700
So, on the phone,
you mentioned the conditions
483
00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:33,066
were horrible here. How so?
484
00:20:33,066 --> 00:20:35,266
[Shari McGraw] The conditions
were pretty rough at times.
485
00:20:35,266 --> 00:20:37,634
Here's a couple
of newspaper articles.
486
00:20:38,634 --> 00:20:40,266
[Steve] Urgh,
covered with vermin.
487
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,700
So, these guys were
living in terrible conditions,
488
00:20:43,700 --> 00:20:44,634
it sounds like.
489
00:20:44,634 --> 00:20:45,867
[Shari] Yes.
490
00:20:45,867 --> 00:20:49,066
-Typically, when you came
out here, you died here.
-Right.
491
00:20:49,066 --> 00:20:51,500
There was about
100 to 200 people
492
00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:54,333
according to these
two reports here
493
00:20:54,734 --> 00:20:56,066
that died out here.
494
00:20:56,066 --> 00:20:59,533
You know, back then they had
caskets that they kept on hand
495
00:20:59,533 --> 00:21:00,389
so that they were prepared
for when someone would
pass away.
496
00:21:00,389 --> 00:21:02,867
so that they were prepared
for when someone would
pass away.
497
00:21:02,867 --> 00:21:04,500
[Steve] Outside
of natural causes,
498
00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:06,467
what else did some
of the people die from here?
499
00:21:06,467 --> 00:21:08,967
Back then,
people died of things
500
00:21:08,967 --> 00:21:12,100
that are treatable today
like pneumonia.
501
00:21:12,734 --> 00:21:14,734
They had dysentery, cholera,
502
00:21:14,734 --> 00:21:18,266
you know, they could die
of mental illness even.
503
00:21:18,266 --> 00:21:20,734
[Steve] It's too bad.
This is a beautiful property,
504
00:21:20,734 --> 00:21:22,634
but the history's
pretty shameful.
505
00:21:25,266 --> 00:21:28,166
[Amy] I feel sick.
506
00:21:28,166 --> 00:21:29,367
Lots of illness.
507
00:21:30,367 --> 00:21:30,389
Yeah, sick. So sick.
508
00:21:30,389 --> 00:21:32,734
Yeah, sick. So sick.
509
00:21:32,734 --> 00:21:35,867
I'm feeling it
from a lot of people.
510
00:21:35,867 --> 00:21:37,634
[cameraman] Is it
any particular kind
of illness?
511
00:21:37,634 --> 00:21:40,467
I wanna say something like
512
00:21:40,467 --> 00:21:42,634
hot and cold chills,
513
00:21:43,367 --> 00:21:45,634
nausea, um,
514
00:21:45,634 --> 00:21:47,734
maybe flu
515
00:21:47,734 --> 00:21:50,734
or, like, dysentery.
516
00:21:50,734 --> 00:21:54,166
-This is multiple people
being affected by this?
-Yeah.
517
00:21:54,166 --> 00:21:55,867
Particular time span?
518
00:21:55,867 --> 00:21:57,467
1870s.
519
00:21:57,467 --> 00:22:00,389
I don't think that living
people would feel very
well being...
520
00:22:00,389 --> 00:22:01,333
I don't think that living
people would feel very
well being...
521
00:22:02,166 --> 00:22:04,900
...in this space at all.
522
00:22:07,166 --> 00:22:09,066
Horrible nausea.
523
00:22:10,166 --> 00:22:12,066
Horrible stomach issues.
524
00:22:12,867 --> 00:22:16,700
Uh, like,
painful heart issues.
525
00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:19,500
Oh, God, not good.
526
00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:20,634
Not good.
527
00:22:21,266 --> 00:22:23,066
[exhaling deeply]
528
00:22:24,266 --> 00:22:26,266
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00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:36,800
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534
00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:42,533
[Steve] So far, I have
a client worried sick
535
00:22:42,533 --> 00:22:44,967
for the safety of her
employees and customers...
536
00:22:46,166 --> 00:22:48,700
...and a cabin where four
people were stabbed to death
537
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:50,634
and buried in unmarked graves.
538
00:22:50,634 --> 00:22:52,066
But I wanna see
if there's anything else.
539
00:22:53,734 --> 00:22:55,367
Searching through old records,
540
00:22:55,367 --> 00:22:57,600
I come across an article
about a young girl
541
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,533
who was brutally murdered
by her jealous husband
542
00:23:00,533 --> 00:23:02,333
just down the street
from Lisa's property.
543
00:23:06,467 --> 00:23:07,155
I reached out to a retired
copy I know who lives
in this area.
544
00:23:07,155 --> 00:23:09,433
I reached out to a retired
copy I know who lives
in this area.
545
00:23:10,634 --> 00:23:12,900
He pulled some files
on this case for me,
546
00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:15,166
and says the victim
never got real justice.
547
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,900
Shannon, it's good
to see you again.
548
00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:25,900
So, before we get
to this tragic murder
549
00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:28,266
that you talked
about on the phone,
550
00:23:28,266 --> 00:23:29,900
what do we know
about the victim?
551
00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:33,000
Well, the victim in this case
is female Florence Moore.
552
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,166
In 1949, she married a man
named Harry Retus.
553
00:23:36,166 --> 00:23:37,155
The marriage license
says she was 18,
554
00:23:37,155 --> 00:23:40,100
The marriage license
says she was 18,
555
00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:41,634
well, that's a lie,
she was 16.
556
00:23:41,634 --> 00:23:43,367
Okay.
557
00:23:43,367 --> 00:23:45,533
Do you have any idea what
kind of relationship they had?
558
00:23:45,533 --> 00:23:47,900
Well, it was a very
tumultuous one.
559
00:23:47,900 --> 00:23:49,467
Within a few months
of the wedding
560
00:23:49,467 --> 00:23:51,533
she had moved
back home to mama.
561
00:23:51,533 --> 00:23:52,900
All right, Shannon,
let's get to the homicide.
562
00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:53,900
What happened?
563
00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:55,867
On April 16th of 1949,
564
00:23:55,867 --> 00:23:57,600
Florence went out
with another man,
565
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,900
James Thomas Binford, age 22,
566
00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:01,533
and as they were coming
home from the date,
567
00:24:01,533 --> 00:24:04,600
they have no idea that Harry
is waiting in the bushes
with a shotgun.
568
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,155
Not 60 feet away of 'em,
a shotgun blast rings out,
569
00:24:07,155 --> 00:24:07,900
Not 60 feet away of 'em,
a shotgun blast rings out,
570
00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:09,367
hits Florence in the stomach.
571
00:24:09,367 --> 00:24:11,100
What about this guy James
she went out with,
572
00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:12,367
what happened with him?
573
00:24:12,367 --> 00:24:15,266
Well, instead of hanging
around to help
with the investigation,
574
00:24:15,266 --> 00:24:16,634
he goes home and goes to bed.
575
00:24:16,634 --> 00:24:18,467
[chuckling] Okay.
576
00:24:18,467 --> 00:24:22,867
All right, so, he's a real,
uh, stand-up guy, this James.
577
00:24:22,867 --> 00:24:24,634
All right, so, we know
the husband did this shooting,
578
00:24:24,634 --> 00:24:26,266
did they ever catch
up to him that night?
579
00:24:26,266 --> 00:24:28,166
They got him pretty quickly.
580
00:24:28,166 --> 00:24:29,600
Okay, what happened?
Did he confess?
581
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,734
Not initially.
582
00:24:30,734 --> 00:24:33,367
Initially, he denies
any involvement
with the shooting,
583
00:24:33,367 --> 00:24:35,367
but eventually he breaks
down and tells 'em
584
00:24:35,367 --> 00:24:37,155
that he still loved Florence
and that he shot to scare her,
585
00:24:37,155 --> 00:24:38,700
that he still loved Florence
and that he shot to scare her,
586
00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:39,800
he didn't mean to hit her,
587
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,800
and even tells the deputies
where the shotgun is.
588
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,467
And they come back out
to the scene,
589
00:24:44,467 --> 00:24:47,100
they find the shotgun
under the house right where
he said it would be.
590
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:49,467
Okay, so, we got a confession,
we got the murder weapon,
591
00:24:49,467 --> 00:24:50,900
sounds like
a pretty good case.
592
00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:54,700
Yeah, they also find
footprints out there
where Harry's hiding.
593
00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:56,000
Now, when we
spoke on the phone,
594
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,367
you said something about
her not getting justice,
the victim.
595
00:24:58,367 --> 00:25:00,100
Well, not really.
596
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:03,166
He was charged with capital
murder, but he takes a plea
deal
597
00:25:03,166 --> 00:25:05,467
and deals it
down to murder two,
598
00:25:05,467 --> 00:25:06,734
and he gets 35 years.
599
00:25:06,734 --> 00:25:07,155
So, he gets 35 years, how much
time does he actually do?
600
00:25:07,155 --> 00:25:09,734
So, he gets 35 years, how much
time does he actually do?
601
00:25:09,734 --> 00:25:11,166
Well, he actually does 20.
602
00:25:12,166 --> 00:25:13,266
When did he get out?
603
00:25:13,266 --> 00:25:15,900
He was paroled in 1969.
604
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:17,967
In 1973,
he was pardoned of it.
605
00:25:18,734 --> 00:25:20,867
-For what reason?
-I have no idea.
606
00:25:20,867 --> 00:25:21,900
What happens after that?
607
00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:23,634
Well, he lives to 1988
608
00:25:23,634 --> 00:25:25,367
where he dies
on Valentine's Day.
609
00:25:25,367 --> 00:25:27,000
That's a little ironic, right?
610
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,634
Right, Cupid and the reaper
got him at the same time.
611
00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:37,155
[Amy] Whoever summoned
that huge evil thing,
612
00:25:37,155 --> 00:25:37,367
[Amy] Whoever summoned
that huge evil thing,
613
00:25:37,367 --> 00:25:39,266
they meant to do it.
614
00:25:39,266 --> 00:25:41,533
Do you have any idea
what they're trying to do
with this thing?
615
00:25:41,533 --> 00:25:45,600
Curse people. They can send
it to people to cause harm.
616
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,266
Uh, they can do death magic.
617
00:25:48,266 --> 00:25:50,266
I mean, they can do
whatever they want.
618
00:25:50,266 --> 00:25:53,734
-They're, like, willfully
trying to mess with people?
-Yeah.
619
00:25:53,734 --> 00:25:56,100
Yeah, they're not,
like, messing around
and accidentally--
620
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:57,800
No!
621
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,734
Yeah, when you're doing
[bleep] like that,
622
00:25:59,734 --> 00:26:04,166
you're summoning, you're
[bleep] working with dark
energies all
the time.
623
00:26:04,166 --> 00:26:06,233
What kind of effects could
those actually have?
624
00:26:07,266 --> 00:26:09,166
Uh, it could kill somebody.
625
00:26:09,166 --> 00:26:11,734
Uh, it could [bleep]
up their lives.
626
00:26:11,734 --> 00:26:14,634
It could go
on for generations, I mean...
627
00:26:15,867 --> 00:26:19,166
...depends on who they're
pissed at and why they're
doing it.
628
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,433
Bad, bad witch. Mmm.
629
00:26:29,367 --> 00:26:32,634
I saw a lot of horrifying
things on my walk,
630
00:26:32,634 --> 00:26:34,800
but two concerned me the most.
631
00:26:35,734 --> 00:26:37,155
First, the tall evil thing.
632
00:26:37,155 --> 00:26:38,600
First, the tall evil thing.
633
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,467
The lower part of it
was all spinal column.
634
00:26:42,467 --> 00:26:44,634
Then I'm looking at it
like this, okay?
635
00:26:44,634 --> 00:26:47,800
And it hunched over,
636
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,900
uh, with its face,
like, in my face.
637
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:53,166
But it was wrapped around me.
638
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:56,000
It has a rib cage,
639
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,600
uh, that's all skeletal.
640
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,700
The arms were all skeletal
641
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:02,533
up until you get to its head.
642
00:27:06,367 --> 00:27:07,155
And the hair goes all the way
down the spinal column.
643
00:27:07,155 --> 00:27:10,233
And the hair goes all the way
down the spinal column.
644
00:27:11,533 --> 00:27:13,734
Next I described
the dead little boy
645
00:27:13,734 --> 00:27:16,066
having a tantrum
and breaking things.
646
00:27:16,867 --> 00:27:19,266
He had, uh, like,
647
00:27:19,266 --> 00:27:21,634
a small round head.
648
00:27:21,634 --> 00:27:24,867
Uh, chubby upper cheeks.
649
00:27:24,867 --> 00:27:27,166
The eyes were pretty big,
650
00:27:27,166 --> 00:27:29,000
very mischievous look.
651
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,900
He was average weight.
652
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:33,433
Oh, his eyelashes
were even longer.
653
00:27:40,734 --> 00:27:42,066
Amy, is this what you saw?
654
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:45,266
Yes.
655
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:58,967
[Steve] Now that Amy
and I have completed
our investigations,
656
00:27:58,967 --> 00:28:01,600
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
657
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,533
and our clients
for the first time.
658
00:28:05,066 --> 00:28:06,634
So, ladies, I'd like
you to meet Amy.
659
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:09,000
Now, this doesn't
happen too often,
660
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,500
but she had a hell of time
during the walk,
661
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,066
and asked us to move
the reveal, so that's
why we're here.
662
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:16,166
Um, Amy meet Lisa,
663
00:28:16,166 --> 00:28:17,198
she owns the place
you did the walk in,
664
00:28:17,198 --> 00:28:19,066
she owns the place
you did the walk in,
665
00:28:19,066 --> 00:28:22,000
and this is Wandah,
one of her employees.
666
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,700
Now, I don't even know
if you realized it,
667
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:25,800
but you were walking
through a metaphysical shop.
668
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,166
Hmm, okay,
that explains some stuff.
669
00:28:29,166 --> 00:28:30,467
[chuckling]
670
00:28:30,467 --> 00:28:32,266
The shop is Lisa's
lifelong dream,
671
00:28:32,266 --> 00:28:34,266
but activity is so bad,
672
00:28:34,266 --> 00:28:36,500
she doesn't know if it's
even safe for her customers
673
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:38,100
or employees to be there.
674
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:40,700
So, unless Amy's got some
questions for you guys,
675
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:42,000
she'll tell us about her walk.
676
00:28:46,867 --> 00:28:47,198
[Amy] So, it was
a difficult walk.
677
00:28:47,198 --> 00:28:48,500
[Amy] So, it was
a difficult walk.
678
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:51,467
There was so much energy there
679
00:28:51,467 --> 00:28:52,533
and around it.
680
00:28:53,734 --> 00:28:56,000
There were a lot of people,
681
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,266
and they were very, very sick.
682
00:28:58,266 --> 00:29:02,600
I got that these people
were from around the 1870s.
683
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,900
I think the living would feel,
uh, more often than not, sick.
684
00:29:06,967 --> 00:29:09,867
Having the hot and cold
like I did, nausea,
685
00:29:09,867 --> 00:29:14,166
and a lot of really
painful stomach issues.
686
00:29:15,166 --> 00:29:17,198
And now you know why
we aren't there.
687
00:29:17,198 --> 00:29:18,100
And now you know why
we aren't there.
688
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:22,100
So, Lisa, do me a favor
and tell Amy about feeling
sick.
689
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:23,700
I just start feeling
really nauseous,
690
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:25,433
I get really bad migraines.
691
00:29:26,467 --> 00:29:28,166
Wandah, do you ever
feel sick at work?
692
00:29:28,166 --> 00:29:29,266
Yes, I have.
693
00:29:29,266 --> 00:29:31,367
I get a lot of nausea...
694
00:29:31,367 --> 00:29:33,467
-[Steve] Right.
-...and actual burning up.
695
00:29:34,367 --> 00:29:35,700
[Steve] Well, Amy, the first
thing you should know,
696
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:40,000
the building where Lisa's
business is has actually
been moved.
697
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,634
The cabin was first
built in the 1790s
698
00:29:42,634 --> 00:29:44,066
up in Taft, Tennessee,
699
00:29:44,066 --> 00:29:46,467
which is about 20 miles
away from here.
700
00:29:46,467 --> 00:29:47,198
Now, as far as
the sickness you felt,
701
00:29:47,198 --> 00:29:48,500
Now, as far as
the sickness you felt,
702
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:50,700
when it was in its
original location,
703
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:54,266
the cabin was right next
to the Lincoln County
poor farm.
704
00:29:54,266 --> 00:29:57,467
Now, lots of people were
sent there, the poor,
the sick, the mentally ill,
705
00:29:58,266 --> 00:30:00,600
basically, society's outcasts.
706
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,867
People suffered from every
disease known to man.
707
00:30:02,867 --> 00:30:06,533
A lot of dysentery, flu,
tuberculosis, stuff like that.
708
00:30:08,066 --> 00:30:09,700
Now, so many inmates
died on the farm
709
00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:12,600
they kept a rotating
supply of caskets on site.
710
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,634
-They don't know for sure...
-Mmm.
711
00:30:14,634 --> 00:30:17,166
...but up to 200 people were
buried in unmarked graves
712
00:30:17,166 --> 00:30:17,198
from 1874 to 1961.
713
00:30:17,198 --> 00:30:20,900
from 1874 to 1961.
714
00:30:23,266 --> 00:30:25,867
Now, do you think
this has anything to do
with the sicknesses you felt?
715
00:30:25,867 --> 00:30:27,266
Oh, yeah.
716
00:30:28,367 --> 00:30:30,533
Do you guys know about
this place being near
the poor farm?
717
00:30:30,533 --> 00:30:31,967
-No, sir. No.
-[Wandah] We knew nothing.
718
00:30:31,967 --> 00:30:34,166
-[Steve] Really?
-We did not know that
part of the history.
719
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:37,533
But it actually
explains a lot.
720
00:30:40,166 --> 00:30:42,533
[Steve] All right,
so, what else?
721
00:30:42,533 --> 00:30:46,967
Yeah, the next thing is
this little dead child.
722
00:30:46,967 --> 00:30:47,198
The way he appeared to me,
723
00:30:47,198 --> 00:30:49,500
The way he appeared to me,
724
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:50,700
he looks pretty recent.
725
00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:54,066
Like, I wouldn't put him
earlier than the 1950s.
726
00:30:54,066 --> 00:30:56,800
He told me he was five.
727
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,066
He's angry and he does act up.
728
00:31:02,066 --> 00:31:04,900
He wants attention, and this
is causing problems.
729
00:31:05,367 --> 00:31:06,867
What kind of problems?
730
00:31:06,867 --> 00:31:08,900
Breaking things,
moving things...
731
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,433
...uh, and throwing things.
732
00:31:13,367 --> 00:31:15,066
[Steve] Lisa, do me a favor
and explain to Amy
733
00:31:15,066 --> 00:31:17,198
what happened when the door
came flying open.
734
00:31:17,198 --> 00:31:17,500
what happened when the door
came flying open.
735
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:19,233
I'm the only one
that has a key,
736
00:31:19,867 --> 00:31:21,266
and it's a bolt lock.
737
00:31:21,266 --> 00:31:23,600
It flew open and things
started flying
738
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,367
and all hell broke loose.
739
00:31:26,367 --> 00:31:28,900
[Steve] This was actually
caught by the store's
surveillance camera.
740
00:31:30,266 --> 00:31:32,333
I'll just cue this
video up for ya.
741
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:39,266
[Lisa on video] Whoa!
742
00:31:39,266 --> 00:31:40,634
[Amy] Wow!
743
00:31:41,367 --> 00:31:42,634
Oh, damn!
744
00:31:42,634 --> 00:31:45,367
[Steve] Lisa, didn't you also
see a kid on your security
camera?
745
00:31:45,867 --> 00:31:46,867
[Lisa] Yes.
746
00:31:46,867 --> 00:31:47,198
Through the camera
we saw a child
747
00:31:47,198 --> 00:31:50,634
Through the camera
we saw a child
748
00:31:50,634 --> 00:31:52,367
reaching for the ball
749
00:31:52,367 --> 00:31:54,734
like it wanted
to play with the ball.
750
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:57,367
[Steve] She saw this
from her app at home,
751
00:31:57,367 --> 00:31:59,734
but unfortunately didn't
keep the recording.
752
00:31:59,734 --> 00:32:01,600
So, we don't know
what the kid looks like.
753
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,333
So, I did have a sketch
done of what I saw.
754
00:32:09,967 --> 00:32:11,433
He looks like
a little rat bastard.
755
00:32:15,166 --> 00:32:16,333
[Wandah] Ooh!
756
00:32:18,266 --> 00:32:20,800
[Wandah] He looks like
the trickster I talked about.
757
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,867
[Amy] So, you've seen him?
758
00:32:25,867 --> 00:32:28,066
[Lisa] Yeah, we call him
the trickster in the cabin.
759
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:32,166
He goes around just
knocking things down.
760
00:32:32,166 --> 00:32:33,900
Yeah, just misbehaving.
761
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,166
[Lisa] "Hey, I'm here,
notice me"
762
00:32:38,166 --> 00:32:40,166
is the feel I get sometimes.
763
00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:43,000
I get poked at the back of my
head when I'm at the register.
764
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,266
But I've had a few
customers being touched.
765
00:32:45,266 --> 00:32:47,198
That sounds like something
this little kid might be
doing.
766
00:32:47,198 --> 00:32:47,467
That sounds like something
this little kid might be
doing.
767
00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:48,734
-Yeah.
-[Steve] Yeah. Okay.
768
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,867
Okay, so, anything else?
769
00:32:54,867 --> 00:32:57,266
There was this guy.
770
00:32:57,266 --> 00:32:59,867
He was always moving,
running, running, moving.
771
00:32:59,867 --> 00:33:02,867
I saw him really
as a very, uh,
772
00:33:02,867 --> 00:33:06,266
thick, white kind of fog
in the shape of a man.
773
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,100
He's got issues,
he's got problems,
774
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:10,233
I don't know what they are
775
00:33:10,233 --> 00:33:13,000
'cause he wouldn't frickin'
stop long enough to say much,
776
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,266
but I definitely would think
777
00:33:15,266 --> 00:33:16,800
that you guys
would have seen him.
778
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,198
He may make people
feel sick and anxious,
779
00:33:17,198 --> 00:33:20,000
He may make people
feel sick and anxious,
780
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,800
and there was a lot
of fear and panic with him.
781
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,533
We've had our share
of panic attacks.
782
00:33:26,867 --> 00:33:29,000
He doesn't quite understand
783
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,600
what happened to him,
784
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,266
and he absolutely can
interact with the physical
environment.
785
00:33:36,266 --> 00:33:38,867
Generally think he would
be freaking people out.
786
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:43,700
Lisa, you had
mentioned the customers
787
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,500
might be experiencing
what this guy might be doing
788
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:47,198
and running out of the shop.
789
00:33:47,198 --> 00:33:48,266
and running out of the shop.
790
00:33:48,266 --> 00:33:49,367
[chuckling] I could see that.
791
00:33:49,367 --> 00:33:52,367
I've had customers being
slapped across the face.
792
00:33:52,367 --> 00:33:53,600
Mmm, okay.
793
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,600
And another lady
got scratched on her leg,
794
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,867
and they've not come back.
795
00:33:58,867 --> 00:34:00,634
And it's been over a year,
796
00:34:00,634 --> 00:34:02,900
and these people are
not coming back into the shop.
797
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:04,734
Scared 'em to death.
798
00:34:05,867 --> 00:34:07,533
[Steve] So, Lisa,
when I spoke to Ed,
799
00:34:07,533 --> 00:34:10,000
he told me about
an apparition he saw upstairs.
800
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,266
Yes.
801
00:34:11,266 --> 00:34:15,367
My husband, Ed,
saw this apparition
appear on the stairway,
802
00:34:15,367 --> 00:34:17,198
and he was about 5'8", 5'10",
803
00:34:17,198 --> 00:34:18,266
and he was about 5'8", 5'10",
804
00:34:18,266 --> 00:34:21,533
wearing a duster,
dark hair and a hat.
805
00:34:22,367 --> 00:34:23,533
Could that be this guy?
806
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,166
Yeah.
807
00:34:28,467 --> 00:34:30,634
Anything on him
when he was alive?
808
00:34:30,634 --> 00:34:33,634
There was a large event
809
00:34:33,634 --> 00:34:35,266
associated with him.
810
00:34:35,266 --> 00:34:37,066
There were four people killed.
811
00:34:37,066 --> 00:34:39,600
I kept getting,
"A robbery gone wrong,"
812
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,000
and a male
in particular being like,
813
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,433
"Oh, my God,
this is actually happening."
814
00:34:44,867 --> 00:34:46,266
I spoke to a local historian
815
00:34:46,266 --> 00:34:47,198
who told me about
a deadly attack
816
00:34:47,198 --> 00:34:47,700
who told me about
a deadly attack
817
00:34:47,700 --> 00:34:49,066
that reminds me
of what you saw.
818
00:34:49,967 --> 00:34:52,734
Uh, it happened some
time during the Civil War.
819
00:34:52,734 --> 00:34:56,166
At that time, Wiley Milam
owned the place,
820
00:34:56,166 --> 00:34:58,467
-and he was
a Confederate soldier.
-Urgh.
821
00:34:58,467 --> 00:35:00,800
[Steve] Four Union
soldiers enter the cabin,
822
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,367
they were coming
to take supplies.
823
00:35:02,367 --> 00:35:04,266
Back then it was
called foraging.
824
00:35:04,266 --> 00:35:06,166
It Brooklyn
we call it a robbery.
825
00:35:06,634 --> 00:35:09,000
The Milams fought back.
826
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,867
All four Union soldiers
were stabbed and killed.
827
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,967
Now, they were dragged
out of the house,
828
00:35:14,967 --> 00:35:17,198
and buried in unmarked graves
in the Milam family cemetery.
829
00:35:17,198 --> 00:35:17,800
and buried in unmarked graves
in the Milam family cemetery.
830
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,166
Mmm.
831
00:35:19,166 --> 00:35:22,166
So, I'm curious if this
guy you saw running around
832
00:35:22,166 --> 00:35:24,166
has something to do with this.
833
00:35:24,166 --> 00:35:26,166
[Amy] I really can't
say for sure,
834
00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:27,700
but it's interesting.
835
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:28,734
Okay.
836
00:35:32,066 --> 00:35:33,467
[Amy] There's this
other thing there.
837
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:35,266
It's not good.
838
00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:38,066
I just call it, I, I,
you know, the evil thing.
839
00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:40,500
This thing was huge.
840
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:42,734
I mean, I would say
about eight feet tall.
841
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:45,700
I don't know if it
was ever a human,
842
00:35:45,700 --> 00:35:47,198
but, like, because now
it's just lost all humanity,
843
00:35:47,198 --> 00:35:49,266
but, like, because now
it's just lost all humanity,
844
00:35:49,266 --> 00:35:51,266
it's just this nasty thing.
845
00:35:51,266 --> 00:35:52,600
It does not have legs,
846
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,867
the spinal column goes
all the way down,
847
00:35:54,867 --> 00:35:56,166
but it has ribs.
848
00:35:56,166 --> 00:35:59,000
It had, like,
this white crazy hair.
849
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000
It's pretty much skeletal
850
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,634
except there's some
skin still hanging on.
851
00:36:04,266 --> 00:36:05,967
I did have a sketch done
852
00:36:05,967 --> 00:36:09,000
of what it was trying to do
to me to prevent me...
853
00:36:09,867 --> 00:36:11,734
from going, moving forward.
854
00:36:24,467 --> 00:36:26,634
If you weren't freaked out
before, you will be now.
855
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,734
[Lisa] Wow.
856
00:36:36,533 --> 00:36:38,166
I feel like
I'm being squeezed.
857
00:36:38,166 --> 00:36:39,066
Mmm-hmm.
858
00:36:39,066 --> 00:36:41,800
[Amy] Yeah,
that would be this thing.
859
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,500
It's not good.
860
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:47,166
That is definitely what's
causing our problems.
861
00:36:47,166 --> 00:36:47,198
Definitely.
862
00:36:47,198 --> 00:36:48,533
Definitely.
863
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,867
[Lisa] Carolyn and I
came to see the building,
864
00:36:51,867 --> 00:36:54,367
and the very first time
that we walked in,
865
00:36:54,367 --> 00:36:57,467
we both felt this heavy
oppressive feeling,
866
00:36:57,467 --> 00:36:59,367
and we both got off balance,
867
00:36:59,367 --> 00:37:01,700
and it was like something
literally was trying
868
00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:03,100
to push us right
back out the door.
869
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:05,100
-Yeah. Yeah.
-"You're not welcome."
870
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:06,734
That would be this thing.
871
00:37:08,734 --> 00:37:10,266
Ooh, wait a minute, you, uh,
872
00:37:10,266 --> 00:37:11,967
you mentioned about something
when you went home,
873
00:37:11,967 --> 00:37:12,734
what you saw.
874
00:37:12,734 --> 00:37:15,266
Yes, I saw this huge,
875
00:37:15,266 --> 00:37:17,166
gigantic seven-foot thing,
876
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,066
and it had glowing
yellow eyes,
877
00:37:20,066 --> 00:37:22,066
and told me he can do
whatever he wanted to me.
878
00:37:22,867 --> 00:37:25,000
I was hysterical crying.
879
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,800
So, could this thing
follow her home?
880
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,900
Mmm.
881
00:37:29,634 --> 00:37:31,433
I had never been
so scared in my life.
882
00:37:32,367 --> 00:37:33,900
But why is it at the shop?
883
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:37,433
It was summoned
to cause chaos.
884
00:37:38,533 --> 00:37:41,000
When I went upstairs,
885
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,166
I heard, "Witchcraft."
886
00:37:44,266 --> 00:37:46,500
This is not
positive witchcraft,
887
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:47,198
this is somebody
practicing the dark arts.
888
00:37:47,198 --> 00:37:49,000
this is somebody
practicing the dark arts.
889
00:37:49,867 --> 00:37:53,367
Because they are
a dark art practitioner,
890
00:37:53,367 --> 00:37:56,634
they formed a relationship
with this thing.
891
00:37:56,634 --> 00:37:59,000
I don't know if they're
conscious of it or not.
892
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,734
This person has always
dabbled in this, okay?
893
00:38:05,634 --> 00:38:07,066
You had a former employee
894
00:38:07,066 --> 00:38:09,533
who was bringing dead
people into the shop.
895
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:10,867
Right?
896
00:38:10,867 --> 00:38:13,000
Yeah, she claimed
to be a medium.
897
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,500
Mmm.
898
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:16,867
She was bringing them in,
but not sending them on.
899
00:38:16,867 --> 00:38:17,198
Her calling in the dead,
900
00:38:17,198 --> 00:38:19,367
Her calling in the dead,
901
00:38:19,367 --> 00:38:21,166
I wasn't comfortable
with that.
902
00:38:21,734 --> 00:38:24,533
After she left,
903
00:38:24,533 --> 00:38:26,533
uh, things started picking up.
904
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:28,533
Oh.
905
00:38:28,533 --> 00:38:31,533
Now, you mentioned it's evil
and lost its humanity...
906
00:38:31,533 --> 00:38:32,533
Yes.
907
00:38:32,533 --> 00:38:34,233
...but what's the big
threat with this thing?
908
00:38:34,634 --> 00:38:36,100
Left unchecked,
909
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,000
without throwing up barriers,
910
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,500
this thing could cause mayhem
911
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:42,533
and hell and death
and destruction.
912
00:38:43,166 --> 00:38:45,900
That [bleep] is not winning.
913
00:38:46,867 --> 00:38:47,198
-[Wandah] No.
-[Lisa] He's not winning.
Mmm-mmm.
914
00:38:47,198 --> 00:38:48,700
-[Wandah] No.
-[Lisa] He's not winning.
Mmm-mmm.
915
00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:51,867
This is my passion,
this is my dream,
916
00:38:51,867 --> 00:38:53,533
and he is not running me out.
917
00:39:00,367 --> 00:39:01,467
[owl hooting]
918
00:39:03,734 --> 00:39:05,967
Okay, guys, you finally
know what you're dealing with.
919
00:39:06,533 --> 00:39:07,734
A rat bastard kid...
920
00:39:08,967 --> 00:39:10,467
...the guy who runs
around like a meth head,
921
00:39:10,467 --> 00:39:12,634
and this big
monster-looking thing.
922
00:39:13,467 --> 00:39:15,533
Question is can you
get rid of it,
923
00:39:15,533 --> 00:39:17,166
and if so,
what's it gonna take?
924
00:39:18,734 --> 00:39:20,967
For that answer, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.
925
00:39:24,166 --> 00:39:25,533
[Amy] First thing
you're going to do
926
00:39:25,533 --> 00:39:28,166
is get rid
of the tall evil thing.
927
00:39:28,166 --> 00:39:29,904
Okay, so, every night
for one month,
928
00:39:29,904 --> 00:39:30,734
Okay, so, every night
for one month,
929
00:39:30,734 --> 00:39:33,634
burn frankincense and myrrh
930
00:39:33,634 --> 00:39:37,367
at the approximate center
of the location.
931
00:39:37,367 --> 00:39:41,533
This thing will be
absolutely repelled by this.
932
00:39:41,533 --> 00:39:44,467
And I would do this,
anybody that it's followed,
933
00:39:44,467 --> 00:39:45,867
do it at your house as well.
934
00:39:47,066 --> 00:39:50,266
Then, uh, as far as
the running man
935
00:39:50,266 --> 00:39:51,734
and the dead child,
936
00:39:51,734 --> 00:39:55,166
it would be great
to find a medium
937
00:39:55,166 --> 00:39:58,867
who will move on the dead
that are there, okay?
938
00:39:58,867 --> 00:39:59,904
This medium would
go inside the location,
939
00:39:59,904 --> 00:40:01,367
This medium would
go inside the location,
940
00:40:02,066 --> 00:40:03,634
and just put out a call,
941
00:40:03,634 --> 00:40:05,967
"Okay, any dead
people who are here
942
00:40:05,967 --> 00:40:08,634
who would like to move on,
let's do this."
943
00:40:10,266 --> 00:40:12,166
[Steve] And that will
kick this bratty kid
944
00:40:12,166 --> 00:40:13,734
and the running man
out of the store?
945
00:40:13,734 --> 00:40:15,367
Yeah.
946
00:40:15,367 --> 00:40:18,166
Are they about to feel better
after she starts implementing
these?
947
00:40:18,166 --> 00:40:20,166
Yeah, it'll take some time,
948
00:40:20,166 --> 00:40:22,900
but you should feel better
and better and better.
949
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:26,533
Oh, my God, you guys just
took ten tons off me.
950
00:40:28,266 --> 00:40:29,634
Are you gonna do
what she says?
951
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,166
I'm on board 150%.
952
00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:34,634
Thank you so much.
953
00:40:34,634 --> 00:40:37,333
-[Wandah] Yeah.
-Because you kept, you kept
the family together.
954
00:40:38,734 --> 00:40:40,266
-[Wandah] We really do.
-We get to keep our shop.
955
00:40:40,967 --> 00:40:42,634
-I'm so happy.
-[Amy chuckling]
956
00:40:43,266 --> 00:40:44,900
[Lisa] I'm so happy.
957
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:46,166
I was so scared.
958
00:40:46,967 --> 00:40:48,100
I was so scared.
959
00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:50,734
Thank you very, very much.
960
00:40:50,734 --> 00:40:52,867
-We got your ass,
we got your number...
-[Wandah] Mmm-hmm.
961
00:40:52,867 --> 00:40:55,800
...we got your ticket,
and you're done. You're done.
962
00:40:58,266 --> 00:40:59,904
[Amy] I'm glad I was
able to deliver good news
963
00:40:59,904 --> 00:41:00,467
[Amy] I'm glad I was
able to deliver good news
964
00:41:00,467 --> 00:41:01,967
to Lisa and Wandah.
965
00:41:01,967 --> 00:41:05,166
If they follow my advice
to remove the tall evil thing
966
00:41:05,166 --> 00:41:07,734
and call in a medium
to move on the dead,
967
00:41:07,734 --> 00:41:10,367
I believe their shop
will be a lot safer
968
00:41:10,367 --> 00:41:13,100
for their employees
and customers
969
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:14,467
for many years to come.
970
00:41:18,467 --> 00:41:20,266
Hi, Amy and Steve.
971
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,467
Just to give you an update,
972
00:41:22,467 --> 00:41:24,433
uh, we took Amy's advice.
973
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,166
Everything here is calmer,
974
00:41:28,166 --> 00:41:29,904
better, nobody's getting sick.
975
00:41:29,904 --> 00:41:30,734
better, nobody's getting sick.
976
00:41:30,734 --> 00:41:32,266
We called the lady in,
977
00:41:32,266 --> 00:41:35,967
and within 20 minutes,
she had the cabin cleared,
the door closed,
978
00:41:35,967 --> 00:41:38,467
and that nasty thing
upstairs is gone.
979
00:41:39,166 --> 00:41:41,533
And we really, really,
really appreciate
980
00:41:41,533 --> 00:41:43,166
everything you did for us,
981
00:41:43,734 --> 00:41:45,734
and things are much better.
982
00:41:45,734 --> 00:41:48,867
We don't have customers
running out the door
screaming anymore.
983
00:41:48,867 --> 00:41:50,166
And Lisa's happy.
984
00:41:50,166 --> 00:41:51,634
And I'm very happy.
985
00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:53,000
Thank you very much, guys.
986
00:41:53,467 --> 00:41:54,367
Thank you.