[Cindy] There's dark energy.
It feels like a black mass.
People will wake up and they feel like something is on their chest.
Feels almost like something is sitting on your chest.
She doesn't want me here, she doesn't want other people here.
She's angry.
Did you see who's trying to attack you?
A really tall figure. Like, taller than this ceiling.
They took him out back
and they hung him over a telephone pole.
This dark mass is very, very dangerous.
It can cause death. I believe that.
I don't like this at all.
[sniffles]
[Cindy] It wants bad things to happen
because that's how it gets stronger.
I keep hearing "Murder. Murder. Murder."
My name is Cindy Kaza.
I'm a psychic medium.
Somebody is conjuring up the spirits in this house, I swear to God.
I ask questions of the dead...
These people are grave robbers.
...to find answers for the living.
I'm 100% sure that we're dealing with something demonic.
I'm Steve DiSchiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
So when he jumps you like that, what happens?
It's my job to dig up history
on every house we've investigate.
I wanna talk about the bloodbath.
And dig up secrets that wanna stay hidden.
We've done everything but burn the house down.
Together we help terrified families...
A man's voice said, "I'm going to kill you."
...decide whether it's safe to stay...
[crying] Let him sit there and fight this thing.
...or pack a bag and get out.
His goal would be to have you all die.
[Cindy] Okay.
Before I even got here,
I had a feeling that there's something deeply connected to the property.
So I brought some tobacco
because I wanna leave an offering
and ask the spirit's permission to work here
because there's something going on definitely in the land.
So I need to find a spot to do that.
Yeah.
It's about respect.
[Steve] I'm in Modjeska Canyon, California.
A small mountain community
about an hour and a half south of LA.
I got a desperate call from a lady named Lisa.
Says she and her husband bought their dream home a few years ago.
It was a total fixer-upper, but the second they started doing work on it,
all hell broke loose.
She sounds terrified and I'm really hoping we can help her out.
So, Lisa, I gotta tell you. Driving up here?
This is absolutely beautiful.
Beautiful home, beautiful property,
but you sounded miserable on the phone.
Um, can you explain why? [chuckles nervously]
We've sunk our heart and our soul,
every bit of savings we had into renovating a gorgeous house
and hopefully somewhere we could live forever.
But shortly after we moved in, everything started.
And it has turned into splitting our family apart
and kind of terrorizing us.
Okay, Lisa, let's start with basics. Who lives in the house?
This is a picture.
-This is my husband Kevin. -[Steve] Okay.
[Lisa] Our son Steele.
Now things are so bad here,
Steele won't live in the house.
So we actually have him living in a separate place on the property here.
So, Lisa, do me a favor
and give me a list of what you guys are experiencing.
-When we're here, we all feel a heavy presence. -[Steve] Okay.
[Lisa] We see shadow figures. It's become physical.
And now, unfortunately, it's affecting our health.
What's going on with the health? What's the problem?
Well, when we moved here, maybe within six months' time,
Kevin, my husband, was diagnosed with cancer.
What kind of cancer did your husband come down with?
-Kidney cancer. -[groans] All right.
Um, how's he doing now?
[Lisa] He's recovered.
[Steve] So, Lisa, you mentioned on the phone
that when you guys started doing renovations,
that's when things went haywire.
What was it like here?
When we first came to the property, this was a wooden shack.
I mean, did you take pictures?
We did. Let me show you.
My husband did almost all of the work by hand.
[Steve] So do you think this is what stirred everything up?
I definitely think that it had something to do with it.
Okay.
[Lisa] There's a lot going on in this house.
The land is a big piece of this. It's huge.
It's a big deal. It's a big deal.
I wouldn't be renovating anything here,
I wouldn't be building anything on here,
I wouldn't be digging into anything
until they get to the bottom of it.
What would they be looking at if they were to...
It just stirs the pot. It's stirs things up. It makes it worse.
Yeah, I don't like it. It's not good.
[door creaking]
In the house, I start to feel physical problems
like maybe dizzy, disoriented.
The woman that lives here?
-Okay. Mmm-hmm. -[Cindy] The woman of the house?
She has to be really careful.
I just feel like there's a jealousy, there's a rage,
there's a... from the spirit world onto her.
[Steve] Okay. So, Lisa, what's going on that you brought me in the kitchen?
I get these awful thoughts that enter my mind.
Okay, give me an example. What are we talking about?
It's picking out a sweater to wear and thinking,
"Oh, what should I wear today,"
and something's saying, "Pick what you're gonna wear,
'cause today you're gonna die."
-Really? -Yeah.
It makes you kind of feel like you're a little bit crazy.
All right. So, is there anything else?
Sometimes it just feels like
there's a heavy, dark blanket over everything.
So we're talking about emotions, not physical?
Guess it's a little bit of both.
Physical part, what's it feel like to you?
Feels almost like something's sitting on your chest.
It's almost like everything is slower and heavier and harder to do.
[Steve] How about the mood?
Everything just feels dark.
Okay.
[Cindy] Something is so off about this room.
It feels... so off.
And then there's something else.
It feels like a black mass.
It feels connected to the land.
It feels oppressive.
It feels like people will wake up in the middle of the night,
and they feel like something is on their chest.
They might feel something sitting down next to them on the bed.
Or feel, like you know, a presence.
You know when a spirit sits on the bed and it makes an indentation?
Okay.
So I feel like people have seen that.
They're laying there and like, "What's happening?"
I'm seeing an indentation, there's a spirit sitting on the bed with me.
[Steve] Okay, Lisa, so this is your bedroom.
Okay, so what's going on?
This is the room where we get touched.
It's usually our legs or our feet.
[Steve] How often is that happening?
It's a couple times a week.
And what else is going on?
It's hard to explain, but it seems to be that there is a woman.
It's like I feel her, and we hear her. We never see her.
What makes you think it's a female if you can't see her?
Because we hear a female voice.
All right, so can you make out what she's saying?
So...
Most of the time, I can't.
But there are occasions where I can make out some of it.
So I have kept this notepad by my bed and write down, scribble words
that I feel like I have heard from her.
Okay.
This one just says "Can't live like this."
This one, "Remember me."
Okay. We're here, we're gonna do this investigation.
What are you hoping you can get out of it?
Hope we get our lives back.
Hope we get the house back that we wanted.
It doesn't feel like it's our house.
Hopefully, we can change that.
I hope so.
I'm seeing a woman and she's active in the house.
She's very fast.
But it's strange because I see her, like, shifting.
It feels like a shapeshifter.
Sometimes people will see a woman, she might come as a mist.
The woman spirit is super active in this area.
Does she get physical at all?
I feel like people might feel touched by her.
Might feel a little bit of a push.
Especially breathing or something breathing like in the ear.
She's just very aggressive, in the sense, energetically.
She doesn't have boundaries.
People can feel something behind them.
She'll make people really uncomfortable, give them anxiety.
Can't breathe in here. Oh, my God. Wow.
This dead woman hates living people in her space.
She doesn't want me here, she doesn't want other people here.
And she's angry.
That's how it feels.
Yeah.
-Hey, Kev. -Hey, what's up, Steve?
-You got a minute to talk or are you busy? -Sure. No, I'm not busy.
I was speaking to your wife earlier.
She's convinced the paranormal's out of control in the house.
I mean, do you agree with that?
I agree with it to a point.
I'm still a little bit of a skeptic,
but I try to talk myself out of the things that I'm seeing in there.
And how's that working out for you?
-It's not. -Okay.
What about experiences? Have you had any?
Um, yes. I have been in bed
and I have felt something move my leg about six inches out of the way.
-You were in bed with your wife at this time? -Yes.
Is it possible she touched you? Did you ask her?
Oh, I asked her and she said she didn't touch me at all.
Okay. Anything else?
Yeah. My wife and I will just be laying in bed,
and the whole, entire bed will shake for about ten seconds
and it'll stop.
All right, so we're in earthquake country.
Is it possible that could have been it?
No, I've gone online and checked the TV and everything,
and there's no earthquakes.
Okay, so, you had that happen in the bed.
Anything else?
Yeah, I have been seeing an apparition outside my living room window.
[Steve] Okay. Can you describe it to me?
Yeah, it's all black, and it shows from its chest to its head,
and it's wearing a cowboy hat.
What kind of a sense are you getting?
Do you think it's curious? Is it just staring at you?
I think it thinks that this property is his, maybe.
And he's just always walking around it to say, "Hey, this is mine."
Okay.
So, another thing you can't explain.
Yes. So, we just need to get to the bottom of it.
Okay.
[Cindy] I see this man walking up this pathway.
He works on the land.
He looks almost like a farmer.
Or somebody that would have worked with his hands.
He's very connected to this property.
Does he have any interaction with the living?
I feel like he can be aggressive towards people
who he doesn't feel are respecting the land.
You know, people might see him walking by
or see something out of the corner of their eye from inside.
And that's him.
Yeah.
So I feel like they feel like something's coming behind them.
Like they're being rushed.
If I'm walking this way, I would feel somebody behind me
kind of nudging me or pushing me.
-[Matthew] Okay. -Yeah.
[Steve] So, Steele, I understand you used to sleep here?
Yeah.
And you won't sleep here anymore?
No. No, I hate sleeping here.
The activity's pretty bad I imagine,
if you're not gonna sleep here anymore.
Yeah. Every time I slept in here is why I would get nightmares.
What kind of nightmares?
Every single time I have the nightmares,
it's someone trying to get in here and trying to attack me.
Can you see who's trying to attack you?
A really tall figure.
I'm talking like taller than this ceiling. Like seven and a half feet.
The same shadow figure that I see in my dreams, I see when I'm awake as well.
Okay. Does it look exactly the same?
Exactly the same, and it was looking right at me.
All right. Now you're sure you still weren't dreaming it?
No. No.
-[Steve] You were definitely awake? -Definitely awake.
Are you taking anything that may give you weird dreams or anything like that?
No.
All right. So, you're having nightmares. Anything else?
Whenever I'm in this house, I feel incredibly drained.
Like something is pulling on me.
You feel like you're just tired
or you feel depressed or anxiety or anything like that?
Anxiety and just being like I don't want to do anything.
I just feel stuck.
What do you think is causing it?
I think that there's something here that doesn't want us here.
-This place is very old, the land is very old. -[Steve] Right.
I think it's just someone who's so attached to the land
and doesn't know how to move on.
-And wants it back. -It wants it back. Yeah.
Okay.
When I come in here, I immediately feel depression, anxiety, confusion.
It's being caused by this dark energy.
I feel like there's a young man in here.
-A living person? Okay. -A living person.
It's night terrors, things like that can happen, you know?
The depression, it concerns me.
It feeds off of chaos and it feeds off of other people's pain.
It's trying to create discord,
rifts in families, miscommunications,
like all those things because it feeds off of that.
That's how it gets energy.
[Steve] So one of the first things I do when I start an investigation
is figure out who the original owner of the property was.
In this case, I got a surprise.
Turns out Lisa's house was part of a ranch
owned by a famous Polish actress.
When I called the local historian,
she told me the woman had a tragic life I definitely need to know about.
So, Hadley, thanks for helping me out with this case.
So this famous actress, who was she?
Her name was Helena Modjeska
and she was born in Kraków, Poland.
She was discovered by an older actor named Gustav
who first became her guardian and then became her husband.
Okay, so this canyon was named after her.
That's right.
All right, so this guy was her guardian, now he's her husband.
Right, did they start a family at all?
They did. They have a son named Ralph,
and then they have a daughter named Marylka.
But she sadly dies when she's two in 1865.
She must have taken that hard, right?
I mean, it's her only daughter.
It did. It devastated her.
And she also said that once her daughter passed away,
her husband ran off and she never saw him again.
-Really? -[Hadley] Mmm-hmm.
Okay, so now she's alone. She's a single mom.
And this is the 1800s.
Does she ever get remarried?
She does, yeah.
Three years later, she marries the love of her life,
this guy named Count Bozenta,
and they become a really fashionable couple in Poland.
So at what point do they come to America?
They come to America in 1876
because the Count had these fantastic dreams
of living this Wild West fantasy in California.
All right. So now they're in America.
When did they wind up buying my client's property?
So she becomes an American citizen,
and then they buy this property in 1888
in this area that was then known as Santiago Canyon.
-[Steve] So this is here? In this area? -[Hadley] Mmm-hmm.
Well, it sounds like she had a good life here in America. Am I missing something?
No, she had a really happy life here,
but, you know, you never get over losing a toddler
and I'm sure she missed home.
But the problem was, in 1893,
five years after she buys Modjeska Canyon,
she is permanently banished from Poland for speaking out against the Russians there.
[Steve] That had to kill her.
Okay, so what happened?
-She has a stroke in 1897. -Okay.
And then they lose all their money,
so she has to sell the property in 1906.
Then she's diagnosed with Bright's disease,
which is a form of kidney disease.
Oh.
And she dies in 1909 at the age of 68.
So for the most part, even though she lost a child, which is devastating,
looks like she had a good life here.
Absolutely, but I think there was a murder on the property
while she owned it.
So you might wanna check that out.
-Really? -[Hadley] Mmm-hmm.
Okay.
[Cindy] I'm seeing that dead lady again.
She's really angry that she's dead.
This is her house.
It's like people don't get to be happy in her house.
But I feel that she lost something by being here.
It came out that she left her family to be here.
She wasn't meant to stay here,
and she's angry and feels lonely.
She wants to be with her daughter.
And the name Mary just came to me, too.
She doesn't want other people to be happy until she can be happy.
I don't like it. It's not good.
[Steve] Hadley mentioned there was a murder right on Lisa's property.
So I reached out to a retired LAPD sergeant I've worked with before,
and asked her to look into it for me.
She did some digging and said it was a completely senseless homicide.
The whole thing was over $2.50.
This I gotta hear about.
Cheryl, thanks for helping me out again. It's good to see you.
No worries.
All right. So this murder, what do we know about the victim?
Captain William McKelvey
was a foreman at the Modjeska Ranch in the 1890s.
Described as a peaceful, quiet guy.
Very popular.
And here's a drawing of him.
All right. So, from what you're saying,
this sounds like a really nice guy.
So how the hell did he wind up being a murder victim?
Back in the 1890s, there was a poll tax
that every male resident of Orange County was required to pay.
So in July of 1892, one of the workers on the ranch,
a man by the name of Francisco Torres, refused to pay the poll tax.
All right, so how much was this tax?
It was $2.50.
Okay.
So, the murder. What happened?
Okay, so it's July 30, 1892.
-Payday on the ranch. -Okay.
Torres looks at his wages, he realizes he's short.
Normally he would get $9 for a week's pay.
He gets 6.50.
He's livid.
He immediately confronts McKelvey, and he's like,
"Hey, where's my $2.50?
-I want all of my money." -Right.
McKelvey just, kind of, brushes him off,
and he turns to go feed the chickens on the ranch.
Torres is not having any of that.
He follows him. He follows him.
And he picks up a pickaxe.
He hits him in the head with a pickaxe 'cause he's still hot about that money.
-Right. -Then he gets a knife.
He stabs him in the heart.
-Okay. -He grabs his coin purse,
and then he takes off.
-Okay. -And here's the article.
All right. So now we got this Torres on the run. What happens?
On August 9th, a constable in San Diego County
locates Torres and arrests him.
Does he go to trial?
Well, not exactly.
Remember, I told you, McKelvey was very well liked.
And so all of his friends and supporters showed up to the jail.
They stormed the jail, they locked up the watchman.
They grabbed Francisco Torres, and they took him out back,
and they hung him over a telephone pole.
This was the very first time in Orange County
that there was an extra-judicial lynching.
And it made news as well.
[Steve] Okay. Is this Torres here?
[Cheryl] Yeah.
Now you got two dead men over $2.50.
-So senseless. -Yeah.
[Cindy] This black mass is the biggest threat here.
It's been here, and it creates things.
It wants bad things to happen
because that's how it gets stronger.
[door creaking]
I feel like the energy that's affecting people here,
it's almost like this force can make somebody's personality change
to the point where they can almost become somebody different.
Or they can lose time,
feeling like two different people sometimes.
Like, that's another thing I'm sensing.
So, it feeds off of people's fear,
it feeds off of people's anxiety,
it feeds off of when people get sick
or get physically ill.
It's almost like that's what's causing a lot of problems
for people that come here, people that live here, people that visit here
to the point where people could die.
And it continues to grow.
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[Steve] So far, I have a family being torn apart
by paranormal activity in their dream home
on a property where a brutal murder took place.
But I need to see if there's anything else.
Searching through old records,
I find a brutal Native American massacre
that took place close to my client's property.
I reached out to a local author who knows all about this tragedy.
He tells me it wasn't about land, but horses.
Well, Christian, thanks for helping me out and meeting with me.
So, you mentioned the tribe here was called the Tongva.
So, am I safe to assume that they'd gotten into a beef with settlers?
Yes. There was a group back then of American settlers
led by a guy named William Wolfskill.
That's Wolfskill himself.
[Steve] Now, Christian, you mentioned on the phone
that this massacre was over horses,
and I'm assuming that's why we're standing by the stables here.
Exactly.
The Tongva, allegedly, were fond of, of horse meat.
So they would steal the Mexicans' horses.
-Okay. -To get on the good side of the Mexicans,
Wolfskill decided that he was gonna
track down the horse thieves and teach them a lesson.
Okay. So what happens next?
Wolfskill and his crew track the horses to Black Star Canyon,
right near here,
where they discover the Tongva
feasting on the horses around a campfire.
Even though they're incredibly outnumbered,
they still proceed with the ambush.
How did the ambush go?
They overwhelmed the Tongvas.
They tried fighting back, but their, their weapons were primitive.
Bows and arrows, Spanish blunderbuss muskets.
No match for the modern rifles that they had coming at them.
And so the injured Tongva left,
leaving behind the dead and the dying.
All right. So what wound up happening with the Tongva?
Did they stay, did they fight? What happened?
Tongva eventually leave.
Then, in 1878,
a company called the Black Star Coal Mining Company
discovers coal deposits in the area.
They open a mine at the mouth of the canyon.
Hence the name Black Star Canyon.
They mine there for years, on and off, until the early 1900s.
At which point, the whole operation shuts down.
All right. So, Christian, I gotta assume,
even though the Tongva left,
there had to be still artefacts
and maybe remains in those mountains.
[Christian] Many accounts of artefacts being discovered over the years,
including a human skeleton that was discovered in 1938.
Well, needless to say, I mean, there's a lot of blood in these mountains.
Absolutely. There's a lot of history here,
a lot of layers that you can comb through.
And, uh, Black Star Canyon today
is a favorite place for people to hike.
And many people, I'm sure, have no idea what went on back there.
[Matthew] This black mass,
do you know if this thing was ever alive?
Doesn't feel human to me. Feels inhuman.
It feels connected to the land.
I'm gonna do automatic writing in here.
Automatic writing is a form of channeling.
When I do it, I don't actually hear the dead,
but they write their messages through me.
I put pen to paper and allow my hand to move.
The energy from the land is from a long time ago.
It's from below the ground.
Something happened in the 1950s
that really amplified everything.
So the people that are building or digging on this land,
they don't respect the land, they don't understand the land.
There is a dig that happened, and it broke...
It, like, opened something up.
Like, opened a portal. It did something
that unleashed this mass.
I saw a lot of really dangerous things in the course of this walk.
But the dead woman sneaking up on the living person,
that has me really concerned.
I saw an image of a woman, who is alive,
doing dishes, staring out the window.
-Okay. -Behind her, I saw a dead, older woman.
She was about the same height as the woman looking out of the window.
Her hair was silver,
and it was about shoulder length.
Like, to here.
She felt really angry, she felt aggressive.
Next, I had the artist sketch a black mass
hovering over a living person in bed.
I saw the woman waking up in the middle of the night.
And the mass was so thick that she is...
Almost like it was taking her breath away.
More, like, a mist or, like, a smoke?
It was dense, black energy.
Cindy, is this what you saw?
That's exactly what I saw.
[Steve] Now that Cindy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
So, Cindy, I want you to meet Lisa and Kevin.
They live here on this beautiful property with their son, Steele,
who's 19. That's him in the middle.
Now, these guys put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into this place.
It was supposed to be their forever home, but we're here.
So, you can imagine, they're having
a hell of a time with the paranormal.
Now, these guys aren't asking for much.
They just wanna go back to living a peaceful life.
And they don't know whether they can do it here
or if it's gonna have to be someplace else.
So, Cindy can start telling us about her walk,
and maybe figure things out.
[Cindy] There's a dead woman who is very active.
She's very aggressive, she's angry.
And she feels like this is her house.
She doesn't want other people here.
She felt like something had been taken from her in life.
That she had been forced to be on the land.
She kept saying to me, "I wanna find my daughter.
I can't find my daughter.
I wanna be connected with my daughter."
I kept hearing the name Mary over and over.
Mary, Mary, Mary.
You guys probably know this history, but Cindy doesn't.
The original owner of the land
was a famous Shakespearean actress named Helena Modjeska.
The whole area, Modjeska Canyon, is named after her.
She originally came from Kraków, Poland.
Her first husband was an older actor who discovered her.
They had two kids.
A son named Ralph and a daughter named Marylka.
-So that's the Mary. -[Cindy] Hmm.
Marylka tragically died at the age of two.
This happened in Poland so we have no access to the records.
We don't know what the cause of death was.
We do know that after the baby died, the husband skipped town.
Few years later, she remarried a guy named Count Bozenta.
And they moved here to the US.
In 1888, they bought a huge piece of land here in the canyon,
which includes your house.
Actually, I have a photo of it, uh, with her in it.
Now, she never really got over the loss of her daughter
or being away from Poland.
In 1893, she was banned from ever returning to Poland
after speaking out against the Russian leaders.
And her health went downhill after that.
And she died in 1909 from Bright's disease,
a catch-all for kidney disease back then.
She was only 68 years old.
Here's a photo of her from when she was a young actress.
Could this possibly be the woman you saw?
I'm 100% sure it's her. 100%.
[Steve] You guys have heard of her, right?
[Lisa] Yes.
We finally toured her home
probably six months ago.
As I toured her home, there are so many similarities
of the things I have done in my house.
-And it was just weird. -Yeah.
This is her home, to her.
She... She doesn't want other people in her home.
And she's making it her home through you.
Now, is that the only way she's interacting with them?
So, no.
I feel like people might feel touched by her.
People can feel something behind them.
She'll make people really uncomfortable, give them anxiety.
Now, you were touched.
Tell her about that.
[Lisa] Yeah.
Some days, it feels like fingers,
and some days, it feels like a pressure.
Like something would sit on the back side of me and, kind of, push.
[Steve] Tell Cindy how you write down what she says to you.
She sits at the foot of the bed,
and then I tell my husband,
"I hear her, I hear her."
And... And so my husband said,
-"You have to get a notebook." -[Steve] Yes.
So, this is it.
[Lisa] So, I wrote things she says.
"I can't live like this.
Remember me."
I think you're very psychic,
and I think you're also a medium.
And I think that this woman has, uh,
a very strong influence on you.
Even more than I think you are aware of.
I had a sketch done about a scene that I saw with you
and the dead woman in the house in the kitchen.
-Oof. It's a little creepy. -[Cindy] Mmm-hmm.
Oh, wow.
That would definitely be you.
I guess I feel so bad that she's angry, you know.
I just feel like we put our heart into this.
We brought back this place that is so magical.
And to be angry at us
or, um, to want to harm us is just...
It's heartbreaking.
I think one of the biggest issues here
has to do with the land.
I got the feeling that in the past,
this land just wasn't respected by a lot of people.
I felt that in the 1950s there had been some sort of construction there,
where people had done some digging
without knowing what they were doing, without respect.
Basically, it stirred up a lot of energy.
I certainly wouldn't want to be doing renovations on this land.
At all.
Well, it's a little late for that.
[Lisa chuckles]
These guys did extensive, extensive renovations.
That makes a lot of sense.
She was saying how the land is pissed and disrespected.
So you should know there was a...
massacre of Native Americans took place
in this area back in the 1800s.
Well, it happened at a spot called Black Star Canyon.
-Yes. -[Steve] Which is about seven miles from here.
Less than seven miles.
Now, you mentioned digging and disrespecting the land.
In 1878, an American company started mining coal
on what was once sacred Tongva land.
-[Kevin] Oh. -Oh, that makes so much sense.
Because I kept seeing digging, digging, digging.
And I felt like the ground had been cracked open.
Something was cracked open.
This went on for about four decades.
In 1938, the skeletal remains of a Tongva tribe member was found in the mountains.
So, when you started talking about their land being angry,
do you think that could have anything to do with it?
Absolutely.
There's more.
So, really, I think the biggest threat to your safety,
to your family
is this black mass that's from the land.
This is not human spirit. This is inhuman.
It's never been human.
But it's powerful.
When the coal mining happened,
and the ground was broken like that,
it created a monster, really.
It can affect people in a lot of different ways.
Depression, anxiety.
It can make people sick.
Heart attacks, cancer, illness.
About a year and a half ago, um, my wife came to me.
She says, "Kevin, you don't look very good. You look sick."
So, I went to the doctor.
And it turns out I had a tumor in my kidney.
So I had a, uh, part of my kidney removed.
And it was cancerous.
This mass, it can affect people psychologically.
It can really make them insane.
And when I was in the back house,
I sensed it was making a male teenager feel very depressed.
Anxiety.
[Steve] That's where Steele lives, their son.
I also saw that it was giving this kid night terrors.
So, Lisa, if you can,
can you tell Cindy about Steele's nightmares? 'Cause he told me.
So, they all involve a tall, shadow person,
uh, that he says is so tall
that when it stands outside his room,
it actually has to bend over to look in.
[Steve] Now, you said this thing can also cause depression and anxiety.
Tell Cindy about the intrusive thoughts that you get.
I will just be standing there,
picking out a sweater, doing a dish.
But it's a thought that comes, and it will just say,
"Oh, pick a good one. You're gonna die today."
[Cindy] Yeah.
In the main bedroom, I saw this mass interacting with the living.
I saw it putting pressure on the bed.
Like, an indentation on the bed.
And I also saw it hovering over people while they're sleeping.
[Kevin] Mmm.
And I had a sketch drawn of the scene that I saw in the picture.
You guys wanna see this?
-No. -[Kevin] No.
[Lisa chuckles nervously]
It's like something out of a movie.
Oh, wow.
-It looks like me. -[Kevin] Yeah, that is you.
-Have you seen that? -[Lisa] Yes.
It just looks like this dark, like, blanket.
Now, this sketch shows Lisa in bed, I'm assuming.
But it seems like, Kevin, you're having more experiences in the bed.
Do me a favor and tell Cindy about
what you told me when your leg was moving in bed.
I just laid down,
and Lisa and I were next to each other,
and I just felt just a little bit of pressure, and it moved my leg.
I didn't feel any hands, I didn't...
I just felt something just move my leg.
[Cindy] Mmm-hmm.
You also mentioned the bed shaking.
Just a little side by side.
-Just enough for you to notice. -[Cindy] Yeah.
It'll do it, and then it'll stop.
Ten minutes later, it'll do it again.
And we experience this maybe once or twice a month.
This dark mass is very, very dangerous.
It can cause death. I believe that.
This right here worries me more than anything.
I don't like this at all.
[Lisa sobs]
[Steve] Tonight, we found out why you guys are getting touched,
why you guys are always feeling watched,
and why you both got sick.
But what we haven't answered is the big question.
Is there anything you can do about it?
And if so, what's it gonna take?
For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to my partner, Cindy.
We both know that you've put so much love into this house.
Yeah.
But this black mass, it didn't start when you got here.
It's been here for a really long time.
But any time the ground is broken,
any time there are renovations,
it just gets stronger.
It's not human.
It's a force that I don't know that...
That can be stopped.
I don't feel it's safe for you to stay.
I think it's best if you leave.
Okay, I am just gonna speak for me.
I just don't feel like we will.
I don't know. I just have such a tie to this place.
Is that tie you or is it Helena?
[Lisa] I don't know.
How do I know?
So, if they do decide to stay,
is there anything they can do
to try to make it at least a little safer?
Uh, the only thing that I could suggest,
I do something called spirit art.
Oh.
And I drew who I believe to be a spirit guide,
who is connected to the land and to you.
Oh, wow.
[Cindy] So, at the very least, maybe you can hang him
and talk to him.
Okay.
This is a lot to take in.
[Steve] As far as moving,
would you say you're not even gonna consider it
or is it something you would consider?
I'd consider it.
I just don't even know how to consider it.
Your family is in danger.
I don't want to get another phone call with you...
Like the other day, when you were all scared, screaming,
running out of the house.
Ultimately, it's your choice.
But think about it.
-It's just a house. -Okay. We're gonna think about it.
[Cindy] For the health and safety of her family,
I really hope Lisa comes around and decides to leave.
If she does, I'm really confident
that this family will find a new home
where everybody will be safe and happy for many years to come.
Hey, Dead Files, it's Lisa.
Wanted to update you on everything that's happened since you were here.
We assembled a pretty big team of experts
to come out and read the land and clear the land.
We have had amazing success.
And honestly, it's been wonderful, easy-going here,
with no issues.
It's been pretty amazing.
So thank you again for everything you did for us.
And we are so, so happy
to have been able to have this opportunity.