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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Good evening.

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CH EERING DROWNS SPEECH

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Thank you for joining us, especially
if you're joining us at home.

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Good evening, everyone.
Welcome to The Jonathan Ross Show.

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Now, we have a great show
lined up for you tonight.

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Let's have a look
at who's in my greenroom.

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First up, an amazing actor
who's been in so many hits,

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such as Interview With The Vampire,
Spider-Man, Fargo.

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No matter what she's in,
she makes it better.

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She's back with an exciting
new movie called Civil War.

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It's the one and only Kirsten Dunst.

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Hi.
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Hi, Kirsten.
Lovely to have you here.

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We also have
an award-winning comedian,

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writer and children's author.

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He's a British entertainment icon.

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It's the always fabulous
Mr David Walliams.

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MOUTHS: Oh, stop it!
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So good to have you back.

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And I'm super excited to tell you
that we have both the director

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and the star of the new
Amy Winehouse film, Back To Black.

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It's the incredibly talented
Sam Taylor-Johnson and Marisa Abela.

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Hi, Marisa! Hi, Sam!

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Also on the show, a brilliant
music artist and YouTuber,

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who, in the last few years,
has become

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one of the most popular
and successful faces online.

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I'm thrilled to have him here.
I'm a big fan.

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I think you'll love him as well.
It's Yung Filly!

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That's a good-looking young man
right there.

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We also have with us
a sporting icon, OK.

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She was named
Best Women's Goalkeeper in the World

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after last year's World Cup.

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She's the current
Sports Personality of the Year.

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Obviously, after those accolades,
the only way was down,

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so she's with us tonight.
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The fantastic Mary Earps!

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And on top of that,

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we've got some great music
from some real British legends.

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They've had nine top-ten albums,
17 top-ten singles.

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It's the always excellent Madness!

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Now, as you know on the show,
we pride ourselves

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on bringing you the freshest
musical talent out there,

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like the young up-and-coming band
we have tonight,

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Madness, ladies and gentlemen.
I think they're gonna be...

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I think they're gonna be huge.

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That's a prediction for you.
But I've got exciting news.

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I've been scouring the internet and
I found a brand-new singing prodigy,

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performing in a car park,
who I think is gonna be massive.

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It's a raw talent,
but incredibly good.

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I think they've got
a very bright future ahead of them.

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Take a look, and please remember

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where you saw
this young singer first.

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DOG WH I N ES OPERATICALLY

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WOMAN: I'm having a conversation.

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DOG WHINES OPERATICALLY,
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Walter! Walter, I'm right here.

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HE WHINES OPERATICALLY

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Amazing, isn't it?

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And the answer to your question
is "Roxanne" by The Police.

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Shall we get on with the show?
AUDIENCE: Yeah!

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Yeah, let's get my first guests
out here.

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It's Kirsten Dunst
and David Walliams!

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Yeah.
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Thanks so much for being here.

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Thanks for having me.
David, always a pleasure.

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It really is a pleasure.
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It's a big audience.
Yeah. It's a big crowd.

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Yeah.
Thank you both for being here.

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So lovely to see you both.
Thank you for having us.

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It's amazing. I was thinking
about the many films I've seen

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and enjoyed you in, and I worked out
it's 30 years, I think,

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since Interview With The Vampire.

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How old were you
when you filmed that?

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I was probably ten.
Wow!

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Yeah. And of course,
you were working with a great cast.

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It was Tom Cruise.
Yes, and Brad. Yeah.

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Yeah. How was it, working with Tom?

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He was lovely to me.

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I still get a coconut cake
every Christmas from him.

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So he still sends you a gift?
He does.

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A coconut cake?
He's a classy man, that Cruise.

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Why a coconut cake? ls there
a symbolism, a sort of significance?

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I've never asked him, but it's
the best cake I've ever had.

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Coconut cake.
You've met Tom, haven't you?

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I have, a couple of times,
and I did see him a week ago.

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Do you get cake?
I'm not on the cake list,

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but I wanna get on the cake list...
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Ancl I went to university

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with Simon Pegg, who's in
the Mission: Impossible movies.

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Oh, I love Simon!
He's wonderful.

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Ancl so, he invited me and my son,
Alfred, who's ten,

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and we watch
all the Mission: Impossible movies,

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and we got to meet Tom.

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Ancl Tom gave my son
a really inspirational speech

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about, yeah, he'd sit on the roof

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and look at the stars and dream
of being this famous actor.

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Ancl for about half an hour, and
I was just stood there, thinking,

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"He doesn't need a clad any more."
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It's Tom Cruise, who just gave him

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this most amazing
inspirational speech.

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He was very generous with his time.
Yes.

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Ancl very, very lovely.
He's a kind man.

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I must admit, if I was your son

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and I had the choice
between you and Tom Cruise...

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So, David...

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The exciting news is David has
another children's book out,

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ladies and gentlemen.

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It's just out today.

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It's a regular occurrence
and it's always a very welcome one.

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What's the new one? Where do you get
your inspiration from?

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I've always been fascinated
by space travel,

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and the new one
is called Astro Chimp.

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You know animals were sent
into space.

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It started off with fruit flies
in 1948.

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I've clone my research.
They sent fruit flies to space?

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Fruit flies.
I didn't know that.

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If you'd have read the book,
Jonathan, you would know,

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because fruit flies are in it.

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What age group is the book
intended for?

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Well, you would find it difficult,
but I think...

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OK, fruit flies went...

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They're the first creatures
from Earth who went into space.

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And then
there was a chimp called Ham,

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there was Laika the dog,
and so, my book is like...

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It's 100 years later.

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What would all these animals
be doing in space?

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Ancl I tried to create
a kind of Star Wars-type story.

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You have children, don't you?
I do.

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I have an almost three
and an almost six-year-old, sons.

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Two boys.
Two boys.

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Do you read to them?
Would they like this?

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I think this is too difficult,
maybe.

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Oh.
I mean, this is like...

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Well, my son's six.
He can't read yet.

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Oh, it's like a graphic novel.
You could read it to him.

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Like a graphic novel.
Yeah.

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Yeah, I have to repeat...

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I have to make up
a lot of characters for my sons,

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so we repeat the same book

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and then I invent,
like, characters, basically.

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So you act them out,
so they get a private performance?

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Basically, yeah.
So, what kind of fiction

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do they enjoy
having you bring to life for them?

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Well, my one son is into Spider-Man,
actually, and does not...

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He's watched the first Spider-Man,
does not care that it's me at all.

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But he goes round the house like...

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Like, everyone's getting shot
by webs.

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Ancl I have to be
the Green "Globlin".

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The Green Globlin?
Globlin.

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Is this a copyright thing
with Marvel?

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I mean, if anyone could do it,
I should be able to.

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Yeah, you should be able to.
So, why Globlin?

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Globlin? Cos he's almost three,
and he can't pronounce "goblin".

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So, he can't...
You can't talk!

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MUMBLES AND STAMMERS: Goblin.
Goblin.

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Yeah. So, I'm the Green Globlin.

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You're the Green Globlin.
Yeah, that's what I get.

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And what voice do you provide
for the...? How does the...?

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GROWLS: Like this.
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GROWLS: I'm the Green Globlin.

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I just want to say about Spider-Man,

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they were amazing films
and they had a very different feel.

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That was before the Marvel Cinematic
Universe became what it is.

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Yes, it was. And it was a very
kind of indie-spirited film,

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because we had Sam Raimi
and Tobey Maguire and Willem Dafoe,

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and it was very much a smaller film

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in a bigger universe, to me,
the way it was clone.

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They're the best Spider-Man movies,
those three. Thank you.

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Thank you.
But that is...

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And that became
such an iconic moment,

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the sort of upside-down kiss.
Yeah, it did.

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I remember Sam Raimi giving me
a book of famous kisses

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to kind of, like, inspire...
to be inspired,

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but also, he really wanted
to make it special,

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even though it was kind of
miserable, actually doing it.

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It was pouring rain, freezing,
Tobey couldn't breathe,

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so it was almost like
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Wow! Yeah.

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So more of a life-saver
than a romantic moment. Yeah.

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But it's incredible,
cos it's an iconic...

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It's an iconic...
Yeah, I'm lucky to be...

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I mean, yeah, it's cool
to be a part of things like that.

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So, Kirsten's new film is out
on 12th April.

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I saw it on IMAX
and it really benefitted

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from being on a bigger screen.

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You play Lee Smith,
who's a photojournalist. Yes, yeah.

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And it is quite a provocative film,
of course.

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Tell us what it's about.
Yeah, you are dropped, really,

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in the centre of a civil war
going on in America.

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Ancl what's interesting
about the film

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is it's not polarising,
it's not partisan at all.

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It's not choosing sides.

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It really allows the audience
to be immersed in this war

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with these journalists,
and it is kind of a road trip

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through the backwoods of America
from New York City

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to shoot and photograph
and interview the President.

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And the President is a kind of...

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He's not Trump, but he's
a Trump-like figure, isn't he?

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He's a fascist president.
It's his third term, so he's...

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So, it is Trump.
Well, listen...

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We're not saying...
It's like a nice version of Trump.

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It's another old... man.

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Yeah, yeah.
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Let's have a look.
Civil War is amazing.

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I'm thrilled you're gonna see it,
cos I know you'll love it.

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It's out on Aprilthe 12th.
Have a look at this.

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Citizens of America,
the so-called Western forces

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of Texas and California...

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GUNFIRE

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'..have suffered a very great defeat

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'at the hands
of the United States military.

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Mr President, do you regret
the use of air strikes

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against American citizens?

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They're moving into DC today.
We need to go down there.

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They shoot journalists on sight
in the capital.

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Every instinct in me says
this is death.

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Flood it.

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Every time I survived a war zone,

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I thought I was sending
a warning home.

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"Don't do this."

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HE EXHALES

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But here we are.

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There's some kind
of misunderstanding here.

237
00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,935
What?
We're American, OK?

238
00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,015
OK. What kind of American are you?

239
00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:08,655
You don't know?

240
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

241
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APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

242
00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,975
He's your husband, isn't he?

243
00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,535
Yeah, that's my husband.
Yeah.

244
00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:21,255
Yeah.
Yeah.

245
00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,775
You can see it looks amazing.
And as David was just asking you,

246
00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,615
the guy at the end...
It's a kind of chilling,

247
00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,975
quite a small role in the film,
but chilling performance.

248
00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,575
That's Jesse Plemons,
who is your husband. Yes, yeah.

249
00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,215
And he wasn't initially cast
in this film, I believe.

250
00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,415
No, another actor was cast

251
00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,055
that couldn't end up doing it
because of scheduling,

252
00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,855
and I was, like,
"Well, Jesse's here."

253
00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,295
LAUGHTER
Yeah.

254
00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,695
So they didn't have to pay for
housing or another car or anything.

255
00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,895
But it's an amazing,
memorable performance.

256
00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,975
Well, even in reading the script,
that scene was so chilling.

257
00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,855
Yeah.
Ancl the way he plays it is...

258
00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,815
What happens in that scene
really sets the film off

259
00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,295
to the trajectory of just...
Yeah.

260
00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,015
You know, it really ignites
the film, in a way.

261
00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,495
Ancl yeah, he's very casual about it,
which makes it even more chilling.

262
00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,575
Well, I've admired him on screen
for a while, and he does worry me

263
00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,495
because he plays weird people
so well.

264
00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,095
LAUGHTER
He does.

265
00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,615
LAUGHTER

266
00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,895
And you've worked with him before.
LAUGHTER

267
00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,375
I've worked with him...
We did Fargo season two together.

268
00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,175
Yeah, which was great.
And then...

269
00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,335
Ancl that's when we kind of became
creative soulmates, in a way.

270
00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,455
We fell, you know,
very much in love creatively,

271
00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,295
and then we got together
a year later.

272
00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,655
But do you like working with him?

273
00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:40,415
Is it easier
working with someone...? Yes.

274
00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,335
Presumably,
you have a sort of shorthand...

275
00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,615
I love working with him.
He's my favourite actor, so...

276
00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,855
Ancl we...
AUDIENCE: Aw...

277
00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,135
It's true, though, guys, it's true.

278
00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,095
I really love working with him.
He's just...

279
00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,375
When we first worked together,
it just felt so free.

280
00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,015
it just felt the way you imagine
acting should feel.

281
00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,975
I've never seen him deliver anything
other than a superb performance.

282
00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,615
Thank you.
LAUGHTER

283
00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,135
Yeah, thanks, Jonathan.

284
00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,495
David, what else are you doing?

285
00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,375
I know you used to
go to schools to read,

286
00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,335
especially World Book Day.
Do you still do that?

287
00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,735
Do you meet your audience
and read to them? All the time.

288
00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,735
Ancl I do ask the kids at the start,

289
00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,495
"Who thinks books are boring?"

290
00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,535
Ancl there's always a few,
"Books are boring."

291
00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:22,335
I said to one kid,
"Why do you think books are boring?"

292
00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,895
"Not enough killings."

293
00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,895
LAUGHTER

294
00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,175
But my mission is...

295
00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,935
So, I go into school and I think,

296
00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,295
"Right, I wanna write a book
for you.

297
00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,255
"I wanna write a book
that will just entertain you,

298
00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,855
"will make you laugh,
give you a good time,

299
00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,735
"and, hopefully,
will get you into reading."

300
00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,175
Ancl that's what they're all about.

301
00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,455
I get questions as well.

302
00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,415
Erm, what was one the other clay?
Erm...

303
00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,015
"When do you think
you're gonna die?" I had that.

304
00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,815
So, kids in the audience
ask you this?

305
00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,615
Yeah, and there was one of them
who goes,

306
00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,135
"When are you gonna stop
writing books?"

307
00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,375
LAUGHTER

308
00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,135
Hey, this is a weird question,
I know,

309
00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,095
but is it true you wrote
or started one of your books...

310
00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,695
And this will surprise you, perhaps,

311
00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,295
cos you wouldn't think this
of David.

312
00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,815
I think it was the latest book.
I think it was. ..in jail?

313
00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,215
Well, let's not...
You were in jail?.

314
00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,695
What happened was...
Kirsten...

315
00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,895
I know. I was like,
"|'m sitting next to a criminal?"

316
00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,295
He's a jail bird.
He is a hardened criminal.

317
00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,215
Wow.
I was hardened, with all those men!

318
00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,735
LAUGHTER

319
00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,975
What happened was,
I went to Venice...

320
00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,895
Yeah.
..and I took the wrong passport.

321
00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,095
It was out of date.
Cos I have two passports.

322
00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,335
Ancl then I got... For some reason,
I got through in England,

323
00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,295
but then, when I arrived in Venice,
they weren't having it,

324
00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,335
and they escorted me off
and put me in this prison cell.

325
00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,135
Ancl they were quite rough with me,
Jonathan.

326
00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,295
LAUGHTER

327
00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,095
If you pay extra, they will be.

328
00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,295
LAUGHTER

329
00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,575
Ancl I was there for seven hours.

330
00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,615
Only at one point, they went,
"Water? Water?"

331
00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,695
"Yeah, I'll have a glass of water."
That was all they gave me.

332
00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,575
But I had my computer,
and I sat, and I worked.

333
00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,455
It's wonderful when you can work
just completely uninterrupted.

334
00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,055
So by the time they said, "Come on,
we put you on the flight home,"

335
00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,495
I was actually a bit disappointed
cos I didn't want to go.

336
00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,255
So yeah,
it's the best place to write.

337
00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,095
LAUGHTER
We're gonna take a break,

338
00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,095
but don't go anywhere cos up next,
we'll be joined

339
00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,295
by Sam Taylor-Johnson
and Marisa Abela.

340
00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,175
See you afterwards.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

341
00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,575
Welcome back to the show.
Let's get my next guests out.

342
00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,615
They are the brilliant director
and star

343
00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,695
of the amazing new
Amy Winehouse movie, Back To Black.

344
00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,855
It's Sam Taylor-Johnson
and Marisa Abela.

345
00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,975
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

346
00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,535
Here they are.

347
00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,735
APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

348
00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,055
Marisa, thank you so much
for being here. Come and sit down.

349
00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,935
If you squeeze up the end here.

350
00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,455
Hello!

351
00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,895
ALL GREET EACH OTHER

352
00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,895
So, congratulations on the new film.

353
00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,695
Now, Marisa,
you're playing Amy Winehouse.

354
00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,175
Yeah, yeah.
Sam, you're directing.

355
00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,015
And I've got to say,
it's an amazing performance.

356
00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,295
Thank you.
It's an incredible performance.

357
00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,135
And a very, I would have thought,
quite an overwhelming challenge

358
00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,455
to take on playing someone
who we feel we sort of know

359
00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,175
and we're so familiar with.
Yeah.

360
00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,935
It must've been quite daunting.

361
00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,215
It was.
It was definitely nerve-wracking.

362
00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,615
I mean, you know, I think
you kind of have to take that fear

363
00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,815
and use it
as a kind of driving factor

364
00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,095
in your preparation.

365
00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,375
I mean, obviously,
you have to do a lot of work

366
00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,095
to make her physically recognisable

367
00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,295
as the person that everyone knows
as Amy Winehouse.

368
00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,495
But then there's the other side,
you know,

369
00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,415
the person, the human,
the woman behind the music,

370
00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,295
and also, like,
what we think we know of her.

371
00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,535
Ancl I think that was the thing
that I knew would turn this

372
00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,815
from being
any kind of an impersonation,

373
00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,295
that I really didn't want it
to feel like, into, you know...

374
00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,375
I'm sure you must have auditioned
a lot of actors to play the role.

375
00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,135
Yeah.
So what was it about Marisa

376
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,895
that made you think,
"This is the one"?

377
00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,135
I had all these young women
sort of sitting outside, coming in,

378
00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,735
and most of them had come in,
in some shape or form,

379
00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,535
with either a hoop earring
or a cat-eye or something,

380
00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,375
and Marisa had none of that.

381
00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,255
She just came in as herself.

382
00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,335
And I was just sort of, you know,
fiddling around with the camera,

383
00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,775
chatting with
the casting director, Nina,

384
00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,415
and I just looked in the lens,

385
00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,935
and Marisa looked up,
and she'd completely transformed.

386
00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,215
She hadn't even said anything,
and I thought, "That's her."

387
00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,095
Wow.
And it was just a shift.

388
00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,775
It was something
that's indescribable,

389
00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,015
but just a shift in her DNA,
where I just thought,

390
00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,015
"|f she can do that at this point
before we've even started work,

391
00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,055
"then she's gonna be pretty good."

392
00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,135
But what's good about the film
as well, it's also a funny film.

393
00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,975
Yeah. Yeah.
And it's a light film at times.

394
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,735
It's not a downer.
Obviously, it's a very sad story,

395
00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,455
but it is actually
kind of enervating as well. Yeah.

396
00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,735
And the performance is amazing.
I'm gonna show you...

397
00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,375
We're gonna show you the trailer
from it,

398
00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,855
and watch it and listen to it,
and then I'm gonna talk to Marisa

399
00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,215
a bit about this afterwards.

400
00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,695
This is Back To Black.

401
00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,735
#Me

402
00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,895
# Ancl my head high... #

403
00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,095
Hello.

404
00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:10,655
<i># And my tears dry</i>

405
00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,575
# Get on without my guy... #

406
00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,055
I want people to hear my voice...

407
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,255
# Black... #

408
00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,015
...and just forget their troubles.

409
00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,215
Oi, oi!
THEY LAUGH

410
00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,695
You've gotta remember,
I ain't no Spice Girl.

411
00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,335
MAN: Amy Winehouse!

412
00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:33,175
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

413
00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,415
# We only said goodbye with words

414
00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,535
# I died a hundred times

415
00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,735
# You go back... #

416
00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,095
I wanna be remembered
for just being me.

417
00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:51,415
# Back to black. #

418
00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,895
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

419
00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,295
KIRSTEN: WOW.

420
00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,615
Amazing film.

421
00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,615
It's also out on 12th April,
same day as Civil War.

422
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,375
But what I want
to speak to Marisa about there is,

423
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,855
that is Marisa singing.

424
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,655
Whoa! That's crazy!
That's what's so amazing.

425
00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,655
APPLAUSE
Oh, my God! Thank you.

426
00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,135
I was gonna ask you.
I was like, "There's no way.

427
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,935
"That's Amy Winehouse's voice."
Yeah.

428
00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,695
That's insane. Wow!
Thank you so much.

429
00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,295
But did you go in knowing
that you could sing like Amy?

430
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,535
No, not at all.

431
00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,575
I actually don't even think
anyone really asked me

432
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,615
during the audition process
if I could sing.

433
00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,495
I mean, you know, the final round
was in Abbey Road Studios,

434
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,855
so by that point, I think people
were trying to suss it out.

435
00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,815
But it wasn't a prerequisite
when I booked the job.

436
00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,815
It was more kind of... I knew
that Sam and I felt the same way,

437
00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,855
is that,
whoever was gonna play this part

438
00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,455
needed to be Amy
from the inside out,

439
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,015
and that was
the most important thing.

440
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,215
So I just trained really hard,
you know.

441
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,055
I sort of trained for two hours
a clay for four months,

442
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,895
with my teacher,
Anne-Marie Speed, and yeah.

443
00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,215
But you've done things for films.
You've learnt talents.

444
00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,615
Didn't you learn to play piano
for Power Of The Dog?

445
00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,375
Yeah, I learned two songs,
but they cut one of them out.

446
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,975
LAUGHTER

447
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,935
I just learned the parts that
I had to learn, but it was, like,

448
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,655
over and over and over again
every night,

449
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,695
cos I don't play the piano,
and it was just, like...

450
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,855
Ancl my whole... I felt...
I would just apologise to my family.

451
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,135
Like, "Here I go again."
You know. Da-da-da, da-da-da.

452
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,615
So, yeah, it drove me nuts,

453
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,375
and I stopped playing
after the movie.

454
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,895
But you know one of the things
which I think really makes the film

455
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,975
and will make it have a real life

456
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,935
which will endure
and become a classic,

457
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,615
is a cameo appearance.

458
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,655
By you?
There is a moment in it.

459
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,215
Yeah, I'm actually in the film, OK,
but it's not me.

460
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,815
Well, it is me.
It is you.

461
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,535
Yeah, but I didn't act for it.

462
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,415
It was a clip.
I think Amy's television interview,

463
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,335
the first interview she ever did
was on my show.

464
00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:43,335
Yeah. I interviewed her
very early in her career,

465
00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:45,535
because I'd heard her
and I thought she was amazing,

466
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,895
I'd love to have her on.
There she is.

467
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,855
It was a very different Amy.
It was a very young Amy.

468
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,655
And you asked...

469
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,255
People asked
if they could use the clip.

470
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,935
But when I watched the film...
And I was slightly dreading it,

471
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,855
thinking, "Oh, my God,
is it gonna look awful?"

472
00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,775
But you switched Amy
for Marisa in it.

473
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,055
Yeah. I've got no idea
how you did that, but it's amazing,

474
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,255
because I remember interviewing Amy,

475
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,975
and then I see myself
interviewing you as Amy.

476
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,895
But were you ever tempted...?

477
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,375
Did you think
about having an actor play me

478
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,175
instead of using the actual footage?

479
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,735
I wanted to use you
and the actual footage,

480
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,935
but then the guy that came in
was actually really good,

481
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,135
and I did consider...

482
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,895
LAUGHTER

483
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,495
Was there someone there
for you to act against, though?

484
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,655
Yeah, there was
ajonathan Ross impersonator.

485
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,175
OK. Wow. So...

486
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,015
A lot of call for that,
isn't there?!

487
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,295
LAUGHTER
Sam sent some pictures.

488
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,375
Prepare yourselves.

489
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,015
It's quite a shock.
Have a look at this.

490
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,575
LAUGHTER

491
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,735
KIRSTEN: Oh, my God. Wow.

492
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,015
That looks like some weird Al thing.

493
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,895
Marisa...
Yes.

494
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,055
...to what extent
did Amy stay with you, then?

495
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,695
To what extent did playing her
sort of, like, linger?

496
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,775
I like to sort of keep the lines
quite clear.

497
00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,735
So I do a thing
where I like to use...

498
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,495
I mean, I think everyone...
A lot of people do it,

499
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,655
but I like to use perfumes
because it's a sensory thing

500
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,975
that makes me feel like, you know,

501
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,175
I know my smell and my detergent
and my perfume,

502
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,255
so when I'm playing someone else,
I like to use a different smell.

503
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,255
And, yeah, I had an Amy perfume.

504
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,095
Ancl then I'd get home
and wash it off.

505
00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:24,295
I've clone that before.
Susan Sarandon does that for roles.

506
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,215
I remember working with her
on Little Women,

507
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,415
and she smelled like roses
all the time. Yeah.

508
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,735
Which is so comforting and motherly,
so I get that. Yeah.

509
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,975
It changes the way other people
interact with you, too,

510
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,415
you know, how you smell...
Yeah.

511
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,975
I kept thinking, "God, why's
she wearing that strong perfume?"

512
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,815
LAUGHTER
Now you know.

513
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,215
I know there's something you do
in your work,

514
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,895
which is not related,
but it's similar.

515
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,455
You sort of use your dreams,
don't you? Mm-hm.

516
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,535
How do you use your dreams
to help your acting?

517
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,095
In a way, it's like...
You write...

518
00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:54,935
What I do is I write what I need
to know about the character,

519
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,735
or what I wanna know
about the character.

520
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,775
Ancl then, whatever I dream
that night,

521
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,095
I then analyse with this woman,
who's more...

522
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,935
I don't like to call her
an acting coach

523
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,815
because she's not an acting coach.

524
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,015
She's like an acting genie
or something.

525
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,855
LAUGHTER
So... But for, like...

526
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,255
OK, I'll give you an example.

527
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,735
This was a great dream for me.
It was for Fargo season two.

528
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,535
I dreamt about a Scooby-Doo VHS
in my dream.

529
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,535
Ancl I'm talking
with my acting lady, Greta,

530
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,735
and she's like,
"What does it make you think of?"

531
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,455
Ancl I was like, "The way they walk,"
cos they scurry around always.

532
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,655
And she's like,
"There's your walk for Peggy."

533
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,375
Wow!
Brilliant. Love that.

534
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,375
But it comes
from your unconscious mind,

535
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,655
so you feel so much more grounded
in who you're playing,

536
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,775
and it makes you more fearless
as an actor, I've experienced.

537
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,375
And have you used this
more than once?

538
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,055
I've been doing this since I was 27,

539
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,455
is when I started working
with her, yeah.

540
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,975
Wow.
Yeah.

541
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,295
Sam, you have directed your husband,
haven't you? I have.

542
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,255
Aaron Taylor-Johnson,
amazing young actor

543
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,255
who I've been a fan of
for many years.

544
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,895
What were the films you had him in?
Nowhere Boy was the first one.

545
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,535
Nowhere Boy
and A Million Little Pieces.

546
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,375
And how is it,
directing your husband?

547
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,175
Errn, it's really interesting.
It's really...

548
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,055
I mean, when I directed Nowhere Boy,
he wasn't my husband.

549
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,055
When I directed
A Million Little Pieces,

550
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,495
as you can see here, he was.

551
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,775
That's me looking at him, very...

552
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,695
"Are you gonna get up
out of that chair or...?"

553
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,975
LAUGHTER

554
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,935
And is he one of those actors...?

555
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,975
Cos he seems,
from some of the roles I've seen,

556
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,655
especially
as his career's progressed,

557
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,855
he seems to be getting
more and more intense on screen.

558
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,455
Yeah.
Is he kind of method?

559
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,935
Does he bring the characters home?

560
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,135
He gets very intense,
and it's quite interesting,

561
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,335
depending on what character
he's playing.

562
00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,015
Nocturnal Animals, for example,
was pretty hard.

563
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,295
Yeah.
That, you know...

564
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,415
He was not washing,
his nails were really long.

565
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,615
LAUGHTER
Wow.

566
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,335
He wanted to be toxic
from the inside,

567
00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:45,895
in order to play
such a toxic character.

568
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,855
There is that quote
that Laurence Olivier said

569
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,415
to Dustin Hoffman
when he was doing it,

570
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,175
where he said, "just try acting."
Yeah.

571
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,135
LAUGHTER
I mean, it was... It was, erm...

572
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,015
There was one morning
where he woke up

573
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,015
and he thought the bed was on fire,
but we were actually saging him.

574
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,215
Oh, my...
LAUGHTER

575
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,895
Wow.
Wow, I have...

576
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,495
Trying to purify your husband.
Yeah. Yeah.

577
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,975
Yeah, that was an interesting one.

578
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,615
But, you know, it might not be
so bad bringing the character home

579
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,895
if the rumours are true...

580
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,335
Ha-ha!
Oh! That he's...

581
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,135
You mean that
I might direct a Bond film?

582
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,055
The first woman director?
Well, that would be amazing.

583
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,535
But also,
that he might bejames Bond.

584
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,375
Not for me. I mean, I...

585
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,135
Carry on speculating.
You don't think...

586
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,495
You're saying he wouldn't be
a goodjames Bond?

587
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,215
He'd be great. He'd be great.
But there is that talk.

588
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,655
And I know you've been
championing him... I love him.

589
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,055
I love him.
I mean, he's an amazing man.

590
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,695
Apart from being an amazing husband,
amazing father,

591
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,695
amazing friend,
I'm obsessed with Bond.

592
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,255
Ancl I got to meet all of them,
apart from Sean Connery,

593
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,455
and I got to be very friendly
with Roger Moore,

594
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,575
so much so that he phoned me up
on my birthday about ten years ago.

595
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,775
"Happy birthday to you

596
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,935
"Happy birthday to you."
LAUGHTER

597
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,575
He said, "|t's Roger Moore."

598
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,135
I said,
"|t's very kind you called me.

599
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,055
"|'m actually lying in bed naked."

600
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,655
Ancl he went, "So am I."
LAUGHTER

601
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,295
Ancl I said, "|t's such a shame
we're not together."

602
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,975
He went, "I know!"
Great, great fun.

603
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,295
But I would love to see Aaron...

604
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,695
I'd love to see Sam direct it,
Aaron to be in it,

605
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,695
and for me to be the Bond girl.
LAUGHTER

606
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,175
We're gonna take a break,
but don't go away, because up next,

607
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,695
we'll be joined by Sports
Personality of the Year, Mary Earps.

608
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,135
See you in a couple of minutes.

609
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,135
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

610
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,095
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

611
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,135
Welcome back to the show.
Let's get my next guest out.

612
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,575
She is an England
and Manchester United goalkeeper,

613
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,415
whose heroics at the World Cup
earned her fans around the world.

614
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,295
Of course, it could be no-one else
but Mary Earps.

615
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,015
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

616
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,295
<i>M Wm“
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617
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,535
Hello, how are you?
Thank you for coming on.

618
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,375
It's so lovely to meet you.
So nice to meet you.

619
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,575
Hi, how are you? Are you OK?
Hi, Mary, I'm Kirsten.

620
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,775
Hi, nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.

621
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,375
Big fan, lovely to meet you.
Oh, thank you.

622
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,175
You know, I'm sure I'm not alone.
I'm genuinely quite starstruck.

623
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,495
I said the same.
So am I, God!

624
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,455
It's amazing to meet you.
Look at this couch!

625
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,015
But you're incredible,

626
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,375
and the success you're having
right now is amazing.

627
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,695
Fully deserved.
How old were you when you thought,

628
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,895
"OK, I am gonna be a goalkeeper"?
When did you think,

629
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,775
"This is what I wanna do.
This is what I can do"?

630
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,575
Erm, I feel like the love
of goalkeeping started quite young,

631
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,055
maybe when I was about ten.

632
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,975
Erm, I saved a penalty
in my first game.

633
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,615
You know, you all take rotations,
and it was my turn in goal,

634
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,335
and then saved a penalty

635
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:42,735
and got that good old
typical parent encouragement.

636
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,535
"See, if anyone else was in goal,
Mary, no-one would have saved that."

637
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,855
Ancl that was it. I was sold.
Who were you playing for then?

638
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,895
Then, West Bridgford Colts,
just a local team from Nottingham.

639
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,735
So just a little local team?

640
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,055
A little local team.
Sunday league, yeah.

641
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,335
And so that lit the fire, I guess.

642
00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:00,015
Definitely. I just loved it,
diving around in the mud.

643
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,855
I think the thrill of making
what felt to me

644
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,135
like the biggest save of all time...

645
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,695
To everybody else,
it was just, like, nothing.

646
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,335
Well, speaking about the biggest
save of all time, World Cup, 2023.

647
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,335
Final.
You're in the final.

648
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:15,695
And you lost, of course, to Spain...
Mm.

649
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,335
...but what an incredible performance
from you.

650
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,375
Yeah, it's hard, really. I think...

651
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,295
you sort of look back on it
kind of bittersweet

652
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,415
because, obviously, to get
to a World Cup final is amazing.

653
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,175
And, yeah, to save a penalty
was, of course,

654
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,535
a fantastic moment for me
personally.

655
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,135
But I think,
I didn't come away with a win,

656
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,095
we didn't come away with a win.

657
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,895
And what is it you said
after you'd saved the penalty?

658
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,135
Erm...
LAUGHTER

659
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,175
It's been misinterpreted,
to be fair. OK.

660
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,735
I think I was just in the moment.

661
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,215
I'm not sure exactly what I said.

662
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,415
I think we can show the clip...
Oh, don't!

663
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,375
Don't.
LAUGHTER

664
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,135
OK, this is Mary, 2023,
against Spain.

665
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,215
It's the World Cup final, a penalty.

666
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,135
Can you imagine the pressure
someone must be feeling? Yeah.

667
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,935
And how does that feel?

668
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,295
You must be aware, in that moment,
what this means.

669
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,575
You know what? I wasn't even
really thinking about it.

670
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,215
I was literally just trying to
read the player, read the moment,

671
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,735
and I was just thinking,

672
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,335
"|f we can stay in this moment
and it stays at 1-0..."

673
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:23,775
You know, I backed the girls
to go on and score and grab a goal.

674
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,535
I think we were...

675
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,575
really spurred in that moment,

676
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,055
and we created a lot more chances,

677
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,895
and I really felt
that it was gonna happen.

678
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,815
But we didn't quite make it,
but I think we did ourselves proud.

679
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,135
Look at this. This is amazing.

680
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,495
COMMENTATOR: Which way
is it gonna go for Hermoso?

681
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,895
Saved!

682
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,695
Saved by Mary Earps for England.

683
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,095
They will check her positioning
on the line...

684
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,375
...but she's kept England alive
in this World Cup final.

685
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,255
LAUGHTER

686
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,375
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Oh!

687
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,975
APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

688
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,615
OK.

689
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,055
I never swear at home.

690
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,855
I can't believe
that was captured live.

691
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,295
It's understandable.
In the moment, it's understandable.

692
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,575
That's forgivable, isn't it?

693
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,935
Everyone at home is doing
the same thing with you. Yeah, yeah.

694
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,495
Kirsten, are you big into football?
Do you follow football?

695
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,255
To be honest, the World Cup
is the one thing I love to watch.

696
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,135
My dad's from Germany, so we'll go
to, like, a German bar...

697
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,615
Hold it. You support Germany
in the World Cup?

698
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,975
Yeah, sorry.
Oh, my...

699
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,895
I'm sorry!

700
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,335
What am I supposed...?
No, of course. I'm joking.

701
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,775
But that's lovely. It's great.
I mean, you know, it's my clad.

702
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,775
He's the one who introduced me
to the World Cup,

703
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,215
so I've gotta cheer with my clad.

704
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,535
David, we can see
you're obviously a big football fan.

705
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,735
No, I... Well, I like it

706
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,935
on an international level
because I like...

707
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,095
Cos when, you know,
the international team does well,

708
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,535
everyone's happy-

709
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,495
It's the mood of the country,
isn't it?

710
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,975
So I did, and I have seen
quite a few football matches,

711
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,615
actually, Jonathan, unlike you.
LAUGHTER

712
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,895
When did you last see
a football match?

713
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,815
I tell you
when I last saw a football...

714
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,855
I went to watch Leyton Orient's
women's team play.

715
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,135
Oh.
Yeah.

716
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,695
That shut you up.
LAUGHTER

717
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,655
Congratulations, by the way,
on Sports Personality of the Year.

718
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,895
Thank you.
Yeah.

719
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,415
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
That was amazing, and well deserved.

720
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,055
I think everyone was so excited
for you.

721
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,215
Oh, great dress!
Thank you. I loved it.

722
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,495
Controversial.

723
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,375
Is that the trophy they give you
to take home?

724
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,055
Yeah, it's massive. It's so heavy.

725
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,495
Big old trophy.
It is, yeah.

726
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,655
And do you keep that for the year
or forever?

727
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,055
For the year, yeah.

728
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,855
Yeah, for the year,
so it's at home, pride of place.

729
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,535
Is that a big night?
You go out and celebrate?

730
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,895
You know what?
I'm not a massive party person,

731
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,095
but I like to celebrate big moments.
That was definitely a big moment.

732
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,775
But I think
it was just quite low-key.

733
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,495
I was fortunate
that I was able to bring

734
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,215
a few family and friends,
like, closest people

735
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,215
who've kind of seen me at the bottom

736
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,415
as well as that obviously being
a massive high.

737
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,175
So it was nice to have them with me
and celebrate that moment with them

738
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,055
for all the rubbish that
they've put up with over the years

739
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,975
from me,
and me coming home heartbroken

740
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,055
about a game or a training session
or whatever.

741
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,575
So, yeah, it was really,
really nice, a really nice evening.

742
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,375
Ancl then a pretty early night,

743
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,935
and then I got up and flew

744
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,375
to the Caribbean the next clay
for a holiday.

745
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,575
Fantastic. Fully deserved.
Big party night, though.

746
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,055
You were at the Oscars this year,
weren't you, Kirsten? Yes.

747
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,415
Did you go to any of
the Oscar parties afterwards? Yeah.

748
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,215
Jesse's film was nominated,
Killers Of The Flower Moon.

749
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,815
He was in that movie,
and then I was just...

750
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,975
It was nice to just be the date.
You know, no pressure.

751
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,175
But then, yeah, we went and partied.

752
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,615
Went to jay-Z and Beyonce's party.
Wow. Wow.

753
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,815
Jay-Z hugged me.
Jay-Z hugged you?

754
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,375
Yes, he did.
Wow. That's a big...

755
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,015
I was, like,
"Thank you for the party."

756
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,415
LAUGHTER
Yeah.

757
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,015
And we danced and had a great time.

758
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,855
I just tried to dance
near Beyonce's friends. Yeah.

759
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,735
Like one of the single ladies,
just doing that.

760
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,655
Yeah, yeah.
LAUGHTER

761
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,855
Mary, let me ask you
about another...

762
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,575
It's not really a controversy,
but something that kind of happened.

763
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,335
It swirled around you,
rather than you being involved,

764
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,135
is when Nike didn't make your shirt
for sale.

765
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,375
Right.

766
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,575
Which seemed like an odd thing
at the time.

767
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,575
And I think they didn't make it
because they didn't think that

768
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,695
the shirts from the women's team
would sell as well.

769
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,215
Mm-hm.
Is that the reason they gave?

770
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,935
Yeah, I think
that's my understanding.

771
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,335
I think it's kind of...

772
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,575
The narrative is always
that goalkeeping doesn't sell,

773
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,535
or it doesn't sell very well,

774
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,375
or it's kind of pointless
to sell goalkeeper-specific things.

775
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,135
There's very few brands
in the market that do.

776
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,095
Erm... so, yeah, we had
some pretty tough conversations

777
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,855
that unfortunately
didn't really lead anywhere,

778
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,935
until, then,
it became a much bigger story

779
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,895
than I could
ever possibly anticipate.

780
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,615
Ancl because of the incredible people
back home that got behind me,

781
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,615
and all over the world, we managed
to, yeah, change something that...

782
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,375
It'll ever happen again,
basically, now.

783
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,815
We've changed the world forever.
That's amazing. Amazing.

784
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,375
Wow. That is amazing.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

785
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,215
The people. The people.
It was like people power, wasn't it?

786
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,375
It was the people, yeah.

787
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,975
Erm, Mary...

788
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,975
Jonathan.
LAUGHTER

789
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,815
I was talking earlier to Kirsten
and to Marisa about things

790
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,535
they've learned in their job.
Right.

791
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,415
And I know there's something
you've learned,

792
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,335
which isn't necessarily
to do with your job,

793
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,335
but it might be linked to football.
Oh, yeah.

794
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,535
A peculiar skill you have.

795
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,455
I've never brought this out
on TV before.

796
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,975
Before we tell everyone
what it is... Mm.

797
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,175
...just to whet their appetite,

798
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,895
when did you discover
you could do this?

799
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,535
You know what?

800
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,895
It's probably somewhere
in my childhood or teenage years.

801
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,175
just laziness, ain't it?

802
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,975
So, it's, like,
"Well, why do the conventional thing

803
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,015
"and pick things up
with your hands?"

804
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,255
When you could pick things up
with your...? Toes.

805
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,215
But not just any things.
Apples.

806
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,935
I mean...
LAUGHTER

807
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,575
See, I've heard of people...

808
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,255
I've picked up things with my feet.
Have you ever picked up things?

809
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,495
All the time,
and I've taught my sons, too.

810
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,495
When they drop their little loveys
or something,

811
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,935
I just grab it with my toes.
Yeah.

812
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,135
And I pick up Lego bricks
and stuff like that.

813
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,535
Not an apple.
But I've never felt emboldened

814
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,575
or confident enough
to tackle a large fruit.

815
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,855
Yeah.
I think you have!

816
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,535
LAUGHTER

817
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,735
Are we gonna see this skill?

818
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,695
Well, if Mary is willing,

819
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:25,335
would you mind showing us,
maybe at the end of the show?

820
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,655
Listen... give the people
with foot fetishes what they want.

821
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,415
LAUGHTER
Yeah.

822
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,775
OK. So, if you stay tuned,
hopefully, we will see

823
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,055
Mary picking up an apple
with her foot.

824
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,895
If that isn't the most exciting
moment of TV this year,

825
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,495
I don't know what is. Don't go away.

826
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,335
Also up next,
we'll be joined by Yung Filly,

827
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,615
and Madness will be performing
at the end of the show.

828
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,935
We'll see you after the break.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

829
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,975
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

830
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,815
Welcome back to the show.

831
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,935
My next guest is one of the biggest
and most exciting YouTubers around,

832
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,295
who's taken the music world by storm
as well

833
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,535
with his collaboration with Aitch.
Take a look at this.

834
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,135
# Like I'm one away
Only one away

835
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,775
# How come I see the colour grey?
How come?

836
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,375
# Come now, we are not the same

837
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,215
# Found nothin' on my name... #

838
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,415
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
That's him in action.

839
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,615
Here he is in person.
It's Yung Filly.

840
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,535
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

841
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,695
APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

842
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,055
Hi, again.
Hiya. Hiya.

843
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,295
Hi, again. Hi, again. Hi, again.
Hi.

844
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,855
Come and sit down,
come and sit down.

845
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,415
So, Yung Filly, am I right in
thinking that's not your real name?

846
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,415
That's not your actual name, is it?
No, my real name's very long.

847
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,575
OK, what's your real name?
Give us the long version.

848
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,975
Andres Felipe Valencia Barrientos.

849
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,175
Wow!
WHOOPING

850
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,855
That's a sexy name.
Yeah, it is, innit? Mum clone well.

851
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,055
Where's that from?
Colombia.

852
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,055
Colombia.
Yeah.

853
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,375
You're from Colombia originally?
Yeah, I was born there.

854
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,575
I think I come here
when I was, like, two.

855
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,135
Moved back from 16 until 18,
then back here again.

856
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,615
You moved back to do something,
didn't you? To play football.

857
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,815
Ah, got a lot in common.

858
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,535
Ancl then I realised
I don't really like football.

859
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,255
LAUGHTER
Not so much in common.

860
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,175
Cos I thought, "|f I'm Lionel Messi

861
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,375
"and I win every cup,
get a mad sponsor,

862
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,855
"I can't go on holiday
for six months." Yeah.

863
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,895
Cos the season starts in two weeks.
Yeah.

864
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,935
So I realised football
is not something I wanna do.

865
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,255
So you could've been Messi,
but you decided against it.

866
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,055
No, no,
I definitely weren't that good.

867
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,415
So, where did Yung Filly
come from, then?

868
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,975
Erm, so...

869
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,175
Everyone calls me...
well, used to call me Felipe,

870
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,335
but everyone used to say "Feli-pay".
Right.

871
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,695
<i>And that ream] used to annoy me,</i>

872
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:49,575
so I come up with
the nickname Filly.

873
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,335
Ancl then, at the time,

874
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,655
all the rappers had, like,
"young" or "little" in their name,

875
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,095
like Lil Wayne, so I just put Yung
in front of it, Yung Filly.

876
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,375
But now you're dropping the Yung,
aren't you?

877
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,615
I want to...
Yeah.

878
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,895
...but I don't know how
they're gonna take to it. Yeah.

879
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,535
Like, they know me as Yung Filly.
So, just Filly?

880
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,815
Yeah, I think it's, like,
more grown, innit?

881
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,375
Yeah, but it doesn't...
LAUGHTER

882
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,135
Well, yeah, cos it doesn't have
"Yung" in the title. Yeah.

883
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,615
It's not... Filly doesn't...

884
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,415
Yung Filly,
it's got that balance to it.

885
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,975
It's got almost a poetry to it.

886
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,575
No, I'm trying to do
the transition to Filly.

887
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,495
I said it on my podcast
that I've got with Chunkz.

888
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,695
Ancl I dunno, it's just hard.

889
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:28,895
All my socials are Yung Filly.
Like, I dunno. It's gonna be hard.

890
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,175
Speaking about your socials,

891
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,375
you're huge on TikTok
and on all those platforms.

892
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,415
And that's kind of what you do,
isn't it? Yeah.

893
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,935
I know you're doing music now
as well,

894
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,335
but that sort of was
your business, your career.

895
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,655
Yeah, that's the bread and butter.
When did you decide...

896
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,455
When did it become clear to you that
you could make a living doing that?

897
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,735
How long were you doing it

898
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,775
before you decided
that was gonna be your focus?

899
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,695
I guess I was just inspired
from early.

900
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,455
I mean, I remember I clone a video
on Snapchat,

901
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,735
and at the time, I only had,
like, 200 viewers.

902
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,295
I put the video on Facebook.

903
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,335
It was a 15-minute video,
and I got a million views in a clay,

904
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,775
which is kind of unheard of.
What was the video?

905
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,695
My ex cheating on me.
LAUGHTER

906
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:04,895
No, not like that.
It weren't that bad.

907
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,815
It was, like,
me explaining the situation,

908
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,095
but in a comical way.

909
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,295
Right, so you made it entertaining.
Yeah, I made it funny.

910
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,695
But the reason I'm asking you,
because I've met a few people

911
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,175
who came up through Twitch
or streaming platforms,

912
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,615
that kind of thing, and normally,
they came from being...

913
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,415
They were young people playing,
say, FIFA or something online,

914
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,935
and then they got a big following

915
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,655
and they thought,
"I can make this work."

916
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,415
But you already had a career
and a job, didn't you?

917
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,855
Yeah.
What were you doing?

918
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,215
I was a junior broker.
But you were doing OK, weren't you?

919
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:33,015
I was doing all right, yeah.
Yeah.

920
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,815
You were, as I believe the saying
goes, you were taking home bag.

921
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,855
LAUGHTER
Yeah, I was taking home some bags.

922
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,615
But it weren't good of me,
cos I weren't helping my mum.

923
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,295
I was young and immature, you know.

924
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,775
But now, as I've got older,
I'm helping Mumsy, which is good.

925
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,975
But what did your parents think,
when you gave up

926
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,575
what must have seemed
like a fairly solid job

927
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,575
in the world of brokering,

928
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,335
and then you said,
"|'m gonna do TikToks"?

929
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,055
LAUGHTER
No, that sounds mad!

930
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,855
Sounds mental.
That's what I'm thinking.

931
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,495
Your mum must have thought that,
didn't she?

932
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,215
Yeah, she weren't happy.
I think her concern at the time...

933
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:07,255
We were struggling a lot,
those times.

934
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,535
Her concern was just...
KIRSTEN: She's beautiful.

935
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,615
...making sure I can at least still
bring money for the rent, you know.

936
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,095
Mary, you signed
your first professional contract

937
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,895
when you were 23, I think...
Yeah.

938
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,535
So you were working before that,
I guess.

939
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,455
What you doing before
football became your full-time?

940
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,415
I worked in a cinema. That was
my all-time favourite, to be honest.

941
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,455
I used to just sneak in and watch
the last 30, 40 minutes of films

942
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,015
on a shift and get paid for it.
It was so great.

943
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,375
Yeah.
LAUGHTER

944
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,415
And, Marisa, you were heading
down another path

945
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,655
before you decided to be an actor,
is that right?

946
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,055
Well, I mean, I just knew that
it's an unstable life, you know,

947
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,575
and I think I was nervous,
in the same way,

948
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,655
like, you know,
I wanted to be self-sufficient,

949
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,695
and so I thought I'd go
to university and study law,

950
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,895
and that's what I planned to do.

951
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,015
Ancl then I got in.
I got into UCL to study,

952
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,535
and then I was walking past RADA
on an open clay,

953
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,815
so I went inside and watched a show

954
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,535
and I was just like,
"Oh, yeah, I'd love to do that."

955
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,935
So I auditioned that year,
and I deferred my place,

956
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,175
and I was like,
"|f| get in, I'll go.

957
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,175
"|f| don't, I'll go to university."

958
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,015
And, you know, I got into RADA,
so I went.

959
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,815
So your mum actively encouraged you
away from law...

960
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,335
LAUGHTER

961
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,335
...which is famously
a very well-paying and secure job...

962
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,095
Yeah. ..into acting,
which is famously the opposite.

963
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,055
Right.
Filly, let's go back.

964
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,855
We showed a picture of your mum.
You're obviously very close there.

965
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,255
When did she realise
that it was working for you?

966
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,455
Was there a moment when she thought,
"OK, he's made the right choice"?

967
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,415
When I retired her.
Wow.

968
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,975
Yeah, I retired my mum.
She used to work in Poundland,

969
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,615
and it got to the point where,
where she was working in Poundland,

970
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,015
people would see the resemblance
between me and her and go,

971
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,775
"Are you Filly's mum?
Are you Filly's mum?"

972
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,535
Then some people asked for pictures
and she got really embarrassed.

973
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,975
So then, I remember I gave her
a call once and I was, like,

974
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,415
"Mum, you can quit your job.
I've got you now."

975
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,495
And she didn't kind of know
how to take it.

976
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,815
So then, months went on,
she was still working.

977
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,335
I called her again and I was, like,
"Mum, seriously, now,

978
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,615
"you ain't gotta work again,"
and, yeah, made her my PA.

979
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,255
Wow. Hold on.
Yeah?

980
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,375
LAUGHTER

981
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,695
No, but it's not like work work,
is it? But hold on.

982
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:15,215
LAUGHTER

983
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,615
You tell someone
they never have to work again...

984
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,895
Apart from for me.

985
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,855
...you don't then say,
"You're my PA."

986
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,695
Yeah, but she's not, like,
getting coffees and that,

987
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:25,215
and, like, my laundry.

988
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,415
But what is she doing?
just checks an email and says,

989
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,615
"Yo, be here at this time."
That's working!

990
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,815
Yeah, but she loves it,
she loves it.

991
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,335
Look, I'm sure she loves it.
She's involved in her son's life,

992
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,135
who obviously cares for her
very much. Yeah.

993
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,455
And you're right, she's not having
to put up with your fans

994
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,895
coming and bothering her
while she's working in Poundland.

995
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,935
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's buzzing,
she's absolutely buzzing.

996
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,095
How did the thing with Aitch
come about?

997
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,335
Because this is a big step.

998
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,335
He's a big star right now,
and this is a big thing.

999
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,695
How did that come about?

1000
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:54,135
Yeah, he's amazing, man,
one of my closest friends.

1001
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,615
Erm... How did it come about?

1002
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,175
Well, the song was doing
really, really well, and then...

1003
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,415
When I got into music, I didn't know
that if you clone a remix,

1004
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,015
it helps with the sales
of the original song. Right.

1005
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,895
So, I was just out of the top 40
and I was like,

1006
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,455
"Right, I need a remix,
and I need to do it quick."

1007
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,775
Ancl then, when it was time to, like,
thinking about who I wanna ask,

1008
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,175
I didn't really wanna do it
with someone that I didn't know

1009
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,015
cos I thought, "When it comes to
performing a song on tour,

1010
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,855
"|'d like to bring out my mate

1011
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,135
"and be travelling the country
with my mate."

1012
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,615
So I thought about all the artists

1013
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,495
that are quite big
and that are my friends,

1014
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,215
and the first one I could think of
was Aitch.

1015
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:30,575
Sent him the song, he was like...

1016
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,175
AS AITCH:
"Yo, this is a banger, this."

1017
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,095
That was my Manny accent.
That was good.

1018
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,775
Was that all right?
Yeah, it was good.

1019
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,695
And, yeah, he said he loved it,
and he clone it.

1020
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:40,695
Here's the thing, Filly.
Go on.

1021
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,095
I'm sure you've had
an exciting life so far. Yeah.

1022
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,735
It's just about to get
a lot more exciting. Go on. Why?

1023
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,215
Have you ever seen...
SAM: Oh, bless you.

1024
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,095
...a woman...
LAUGHTER

1025
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,895
--Pi¢|< LIP an apple...?

1026
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,975
Oh, yeah, we spoke about this
backstage! Mm.

1027
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,655
I don't even get
how she's got to the point

1028
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,855
of like, trying to, wanna do it.
I don't get it.

1029
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,855
LAUGHTER
Know what I mean?

1030
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,055
But Mary said, initially,
it was probably laziness.

1031
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,295
No, but don't your mind know
that it can't wrap round the apple,

1032
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,575
that it don't spread that wide,
the toes? Know what I mean?

1033
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,615
But doesn't everyb0dy's toes
spread like that? No.

1034
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,615
No, Mary, what you're doing is mad.

1035
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,255
LAUGHTER
No, it's mental.

1036
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,135
On TV, it's mental.
APPLAUSE

1037
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,215
No, sorry, I mean it.

1038
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:24,255
My toes have been sweating,
cos I'm quite nervous.

1039
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,975
Do you want me to get a towel
for your toes?

1040
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,455
Yeah, maybe some towels.
Can we have a towel toe? Toe towel?

1041
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,615
LAUGHTER
A tattoo?

1042
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,895
I actually feel really nervous.

1043
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,415
We're sending out for a toe towel.

1044
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,655
I'm really sweating.
just rub them on the ground.

1045
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,495
No, no, we'll get a towel,
we'll get a towel.

1046
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,815
Do you wanna...? Hold it.

1047
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,975
Do you wanna pluck it from the bowl?

1048
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,255
Yeah, bring the bowl.

1049
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,735
Or shall we get it out so
it's independent of the other fruit?

1050
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,935
Oh, it needs to be...
I'm not gonna take it out of there!

1051
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,615
OK, that's what I'm asking.

1052
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,775
Right, OK, enough chitchat, now,
Mary. Get on with it.

1053
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,535
It's a sweaty apple.
SAM LAUGHS

1054
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,375
You got it. Oh.

1055
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,375
I've got it. Oh, I can't...
Oh, no, you had it then.

1056
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,775
This is like watching one of
those claw games in an arcade.

1057
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,935
LAUGHTER
I need to...

1058
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,535
Bring it home, Mary, bring it home.

1059
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,775
It's so sweaty!
Look at this.

1060
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,975
Do you want me to get it dried off?
Can I have the towel?

1061
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,215
Here you are, Jonathan. Catch.
Let's dry off this apple.

1062
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:17,175
Oh, Jesus Christ!
LAUGHTER

1063
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,575
KIRSTEN: Oh, my God!

1064
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,295
Oh, my God!

1065
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,895
Oh, my God! Wow.

1066
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,095
Wow! Wow, Mary!

1067
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,055
You went right for it.

1068
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,695
I mean, I'm sorry.

1069
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:35,695
OK.
Is this a...?

1070
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:38,975
DAVID: This show has taken
a turn for the worse.

1071
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,335
Here you go.

1072
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,015
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1073
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,175
Yes! Yes!

1074
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,375
CH EERING DROWNS SPEECH

1075
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,335
LAUGHTER,
SCREAMING

1076
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,335
It would be David to do that!
Amazing! Amazing!

1077
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,055
It's not that big of a deal.
I'll eat the fucking apple!

1078
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,975
He's still eating it!

1079
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,255
Mary...

1080
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,975
I don't care.

1081
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,735
LAUGHTER

1082
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,655
Come on, everyone...

1083
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,455
Wow, that was amazing!
Let's hear it again

1084
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,095
for Mary Earps'
very amazing foot-based skill.

1085
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,535
Will you join me in saying thank you
to all my guests?

1086
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,775
The fabulous David Walliams,
ladies and gentlemen.

1087
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,295
Thank you, thank you.
CHEERING

1088
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,535
The wonderful Kirsten Dunst.

1089
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,255
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1090
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,935
Marisa Abela,
who's amazing as Amy Winehouse.

1091
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,135
Thank you.
Sam Taylor-Johnson.

1092
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,615
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1093
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,815
Ma ry Ea rps .

1094
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,935
And of course, he used to be
Yung Filly, it's just Filly now.

1095
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,375
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1096
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,935
But now, with "Round We Go"

1097
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,095
from their number-one album
C'est La Vie,

1098
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,615
it is, of course, Madness!

1099
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,615
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1100
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:52,255
# Round and round we go

1101
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,855
# Round we go again

1102
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,415
# Red cheeks and a pair of wings

1103
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,295
# Is this what mother gave him?

1104
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,415
# He'll hear the angels sing

1105
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,815
# On high for all to praise him

1106
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,295
# God's gift

1107
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,455
# Ancl no-one wants to know him

1108
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,775
# She'll sing

1109
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:27,095
# A lullaby and life will show him

1110
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,615
<i># The sun comes up
And the sun goes down</i>

1111
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,695
# The wheels come off
Ancl the deals go down

1112
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:38,615
# The news comes out
Ancl the star is found

1113
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,815
<i># We may the game
And go round and round</i>

1114
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,695
# White teeth and a knowing smile

1115
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:50,695
# You'll hear no words of wisdom

1116
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:54,775
# Her son is in denial

1117
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,975
# She hopes the world forgives him

1118
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,615
# Well, God's gift

1119
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,615
# Ancl no-one wants to know him

1120
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:08,215
# She'll sing

1121
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:13,535
# A lullaby and life will show him

1122
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,215
<i># That the sun comes up
And the sun goes down</i>

1123
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:21,055
# The wheels come off
Ancl the deals go down

1124
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,055
# The news comes out
Ancl the star is found

1125
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,655
<i># We may the game
And go round and round</i>

1126
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,655
# Round and round we go

1127
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,415
# Round we go again

1128
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,415
# Around and around we go

1129
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,295
# Round we go again

1130
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:55,295
# Her son, her little boy

1131
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,895
# Too sly, too cruel to mention

1132
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:03,415
# Well-crafted lies deployed

1133
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,175
# He won't accept redemption

1134
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,695
# Was God's gift

1135
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:13,295
# Ancl no-one wants to know him

1136
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,295
# She'll sing

1137
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,375
# A lullaby and life will show him

1138
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,775
<i># The sun comes up
And the sun goes down</i>

1139
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,455
# The wheels come off
Ancl the deals go down

1140
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,775
# The news comes out
Ancl the star is found

1141
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,975
<i># We may the game
And go round and round</i>

1142
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,415
# Round and round we go

1143
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,895
# Round we go again

1144
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,295
# Yeah, around and around we go

1145
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,655
# Round we go again

1146
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,895
<i># But the sun comes up
And the sun goes down</i>

1147
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,775
# The wheels come off
Ancl the deals go down

1148
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,495
# The news comes out
Ancl the star is found

1149
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,295
# We play the game and go round
And round and round. #

1150
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,415
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1151
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,575
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