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Good evening.
CH EERING DROWNS SPEECH
Thank you for joining us, especially if you're joining us at home.
Good evening, everyone. Welcome to The Jonathan Ross Show.
Now, we have a great show lined up for you tonight.
Let's have a look at who's in my greenroom.
First up, an amazing actor who's been in so many hits,
such as Interview With The Vampire, Spider-Man, Fargo.
No matter what she's in, she makes it better.
She's back with an exciting new movie called Civil War.
It's the one and only Kirsten Dunst.
Hi. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Hi, Kirsten. Lovely to have you here.
We also have an award-winning comedian,
writer and children's author.
He's a British entertainment icon.
It's the always fabulous Mr David Walliams.
MOUTHS: Oh, stop it! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
So good to have you back.
And I'm super excited to tell you that we have both the director
and the star of the new Amy Winehouse film, Back To Black.
It's the incredibly talented Sam Taylor-Johnson and Marisa Abela.
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Hi, Marisa! Hi, Sam!
Also on the show, a brilliant music artist and YouTuber,
who, in the last few years, has become
one of the most popular and successful faces online.
I'm thrilled to have him here. I'm a big fan.
I think you'll love him as well. It's Yung Filly!
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That's a good-looking young man right there.
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We also have with us a sporting icon, OK.
She was named Best Women's Goalkeeper in the World
after last year's World Cup.
She's the current Sports Personality of the Year.
Obviously, after those accolades, the only way was down,
so she's with us tonight. LAUGHTER
The fantastic Mary Earps!
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And on top of that,
we've got some great music from some real British legends.
They've had nine top-ten albums, 17 top-ten singles.
It's the always excellent Madness!
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Now, as you know on the show, we pride ourselves
on bringing you the freshest musical talent out there,
like the young up-and-coming band we have tonight,
Madness, ladies and gentlemen. I think they're gonna be...
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE I think they're gonna be huge.
That's a prediction for you. But I've got exciting news.
I've been scouring the internet and I found a brand-new singing prodigy,
performing in a car park, who I think is gonna be massive.
It's a raw talent, but incredibly good.
I think they've got a very bright future ahead of them.
Take a look, and please remember
where you saw this young singer first.
DOG WH I N ES OPERATICALLY
AUDIENCE LAUGH
WOMAN: I'm having a conversation.
DOG WHINES OPERATICALLY, AUDIENCE LAUGH
Walter! Walter, I'm right here.
HE WHINES OPERATICALLY
APPLAUSE Amazing, isn't it?
And the answer to your question is "Roxanne" by The Police.
LAUGHTER
Shall we get on with the show? AUDIENCE: Yeah!
Yeah, let's get my first guests out here.
It's Kirsten Dunst and David Walliams!
Yeah. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Thanks so much for being here.
Thanks for having me. David, always a pleasure.
It really is a pleasure. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
It's a big audience. Yeah. It's a big crowd.
Yeah. Thank you both for being here.
So lovely to see you both. Thank you for having us.
It's amazing. I was thinking about the many films I've seen
and enjoyed you in, and I worked out it's 30 years, I think,
since Interview With The Vampire.
How old were you when you filmed that?
I was probably ten. Wow!
Yeah. And of course, you were working with a great cast.
It was Tom Cruise. Yes, and Brad. Yeah.
Yeah. How was it, working with Tom?
He was lovely to me.
I still get a coconut cake every Christmas from him.
So he still sends you a gift? He does.
A coconut cake? He's a classy man, that Cruise.
Why a coconut cake? ls there a symbolism, a sort of significance?
I've never asked him, but it's the best cake I've ever had.
Coconut cake. You've met Tom, haven't you?
I have, a couple of times, and I did see him a week ago.
Do you get cake? I'm not on the cake list,
but I wanna get on the cake list... LAUGHTER
Ancl I went to university
with Simon Pegg, who's in the Mission: Impossible movies.
Oh, I love Simon! He's wonderful.
Ancl so, he invited me and my son, Alfred, who's ten,
and we watch all the Mission: Impossible movies,
and we got to meet Tom.
Ancl Tom gave my son a really inspirational speech
about, yeah, he'd sit on the roof
and look at the stars and dream of being this famous actor.
Ancl for about half an hour, and I was just stood there, thinking,
"He doesn't need a clad any more." LAUGHTER
It's Tom Cruise, who just gave him
this most amazing inspirational speech.
He was very generous with his time. Yes.
Ancl very, very lovely. He's a kind man.
I must admit, if I was your son
and I had the choice between you and Tom Cruise...
LAUGHTER So, David...
The exciting news is David has another children's book out,
ladies and gentlemen.
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It's just out today.
It's a regular occurrence and it's always a very welcome one.
What's the new one? Where do you get your inspiration from?
I've always been fascinated by space travel,
and the new one is called Astro Chimp.
You know animals were sent into space.
It started off with fruit flies in 1948.
I've clone my research. They sent fruit flies to space?
Fruit flies. I didn't know that.
If you'd have read the book, Jonathan, you would know,
because fruit flies are in it.
What age group is the book intended for?
Well, you would find it difficult, but I think...
LAUGHTER OK, fruit flies went...
They're the first creatures from Earth who went into space.
And then there was a chimp called Ham,
there was Laika the dog, and so, my book is like...
It's 100 years later.
What would all these animals be doing in space?
Ancl I tried to create a kind of Star Wars-type story.
You have children, don't you? I do.
I have an almost three and an almost six-year-old, sons.
Two boys. Two boys.
Do you read to them? Would they like this?
I think this is too difficult, maybe.
Oh. I mean, this is like...
Well, my son's six. He can't read yet.
Oh, it's like a graphic novel. You could read it to him.
Like a graphic novel. Yeah.
Yeah, I have to repeat...
I have to make up a lot of characters for my sons,
so we repeat the same book
and then I invent, like, characters, basically.
So you act them out, so they get a private performance?
Basically, yeah. So, what kind of fiction
do they enjoy having you bring to life for them?
Well, my one son is into Spider-Man, actually, and does not...
He's watched the first Spider-Man, does not care that it's me at all.
LAUGHTER But he goes round the house like...
Like, everyone's getting shot by webs.
Ancl I have to be the Green "Globlin".
The Green Globlin? Globlin.
Is this a copyright thing with Marvel?
I mean, if anyone could do it, I should be able to.
Yeah, you should be able to. So, why Globlin?
Globlin? Cos he's almost three, and he can't pronounce "goblin".
So, he can't... You can't talk!
LAUGHTER
APPLAUSE
MUMBLES AND STAMMERS: Goblin. Goblin.
Yeah. So, I'm the Green Globlin.
You're the Green Globlin. Yeah, that's what I get.
And what voice do you provide for the...? How does the...?
GROWLS: Like this. LAUGHTER
GROWLS: I'm the Green Globlin.
I just want to say about Spider-Man,
they were amazing films and they had a very different feel.
That was before the Marvel Cinematic Universe became what it is.
Yes, it was. And it was a very kind of indie-spirited film,
because we had Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire and Willem Dafoe,
and it was very much a smaller film
in a bigger universe, to me, the way it was clone.
They're the best Spider-Man movies, those three. Thank you.
Thank you. But that is...
And that became such an iconic moment,
the sort of upside-down kiss. Yeah, it did.
I remember Sam Raimi giving me a book of famous kisses
to kind of, like, inspire... to be inspired,
but also, he really wanted to make it special,
even though it was kind of miserable, actually doing it.
It was pouring rain, freezing, Tobey couldn't breathe,
so it was almost like I was resuscitating him.
LAUGHTER Wow! Yeah.
So more of a life-saver than a romantic moment. Yeah.
But it's incredible, cos it's an iconic...
It's an iconic... Yeah, I'm lucky to be...
I mean, yeah, it's cool to be a part of things like that.
So, Kirsten's new film is out on 12th April.
I saw it on IMAX and it really benefitted
from being on a bigger screen.
You play Lee Smith, who's a photojournalist. Yes, yeah.
And it is quite a provocative film, of course.
Tell us what it's about. Yeah, you are dropped, really,
in the centre of a civil war going on in America.
Ancl what's interesting about the film
is it's not polarising, it's not partisan at all.
It's not choosing sides.
It really allows the audience to be immersed in this war
with these journalists, and it is kind of a road trip
through the backwoods of America from New York City
to shoot and photograph and interview the President.
And the President is a kind of...
He's not Trump, but he's a Trump-like figure, isn't he?
He's a fascist president. It's his third term, so he's...
Yeah. LAUGHTER
So, it is Trump. Well, listen...
LAUGHTER
We're not saying... It's like a nice version of Trump.
It's another old... man.
Yeah, yeah. LAUGHTER
Let's have a look. Civil War is amazing.
I'm thrilled you're gonna see it, cos I know you'll love it.
It's out on Aprilthe 12th. Have a look at this.
Citizens of America, the so-called Western forces
of Texas and California...
GUNFIRE
'..have suffered a very great defeat
'at the hands of the United States military.
Mr President, do you regret the use of air strikes
against American citizens?
They're moving into DC today. We need to go down there.
They shoot journalists on sight in the capital.
Every instinct in me says this is death.
Flood it.
Every time I survived a war zone,
I thought I was sending a warning home.
"Don't do this."
HE EXHALES
But here we are.
There's some kind of misunderstanding here.
What? We're American, OK?
OK. What kind of American are you?
You don't know?
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APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH
He's your husband, isn't he?
Yeah, that's my husband. Yeah.
Yeah.
You can see it looks amazing. And as David was just asking you,
the guy at the end... It's a kind of chilling,
quite a small role in the film, but chilling performance.
That's Jesse Plemons, who is your husband. Yes, yeah.
And he wasn't initially cast in this film, I believe.
No, another actor was cast
that couldn't end up doing it because of scheduling,
and I was, like, "Well, Jesse's here."
LAUGHTER Yeah.
So they didn't have to pay for housing or another car or anything.
But it's an amazing, memorable performance.
Well, even in reading the script, that scene was so chilling.
Yeah. Ancl the way he plays it is...
What happens in that scene really sets the film off
to the trajectory of just... Yeah.
You know, it really ignites the film, in a way.
Ancl yeah, he's very casual about it, which makes it even more chilling.
Well, I've admired him on screen for a while, and he does worry me
because he plays weird people so well.
LAUGHTER He does.
LAUGHTER
And you've worked with him before. LAUGHTER
I've worked with him... We did Fargo season two together.
Yeah, which was great. And then...
Ancl that's when we kind of became creative soulmates, in a way.
We fell, you know, very much in love creatively,
and then we got together a year later.
But do you like working with him?
Is it easier working with someone...? Yes.
Presumably, you have a sort of shorthand...
I love working with him. He's my favourite actor, so...
Ancl we... AUDIENCE: Aw...
It's true, though, guys, it's true.
I really love working with him. He's just...
When we first worked together, it just felt so free.
it just felt the way you imagine acting should feel.
I've never seen him deliver anything other than a superb performance.
Thank you. LAUGHTER
Yeah, thanks, Jonathan.
David, what else are you doing?
I know you used to go to schools to read,
especially World Book Day. Do you still do that?
Do you meet your audience and read to them? All the time.
Ancl I do ask the kids at the start,
"Who thinks books are boring?"
Ancl there's always a few, "Books are boring."
I said to one kid, "Why do you think books are boring?"
"Not enough killings."
LAUGHTER
But my mission is...
So, I go into school and I think,
"Right, I wanna write a book for you.
"I wanna write a book that will just entertain you,
"will make you laugh, give you a good time,
"and, hopefully, will get you into reading."
Ancl that's what they're all about.
I get questions as well.
Erm, what was one the other clay? Erm...
"When do you think you're gonna die?" I had that.
So, kids in the audience ask you this?
Yeah, and there was one of them who goes,
"When are you gonna stop writing books?"
LAUGHTER
Hey, this is a weird question, I know,
but is it true you wrote or started one of your books...
And this will surprise you, perhaps,
cos you wouldn't think this of David.
I think it was the latest book. I think it was. ..in jail?
Well, let's not... You were in jail?.
What happened was... Kirsten...
I know. I was like, "|'m sitting next to a criminal?"
He's a jail bird. He is a hardened criminal.
Wow. I was hardened, with all those men!
LAUGHTER
What happened was, I went to Venice...
Yeah. ..and I took the wrong passport.
It was out of date. Cos I have two passports.
Ancl then I got... For some reason, I got through in England,
but then, when I arrived in Venice, they weren't having it,
and they escorted me off and put me in this prison cell.
Ancl they were quite rough with me, Jonathan.
LAUGHTER
If you pay extra, they will be.
LAUGHTER
Ancl I was there for seven hours.
Only at one point, they went, "Water? Water?"
"Yeah, I'll have a glass of water." That was all they gave me.
But I had my computer, and I sat, and I worked.
It's wonderful when you can work just completely uninterrupted.
So by the time they said, "Come on, we put you on the flight home,"
I was actually a bit disappointed cos I didn't want to go.
So yeah, it's the best place to write.
LAUGHTER We're gonna take a break,
but don't go anywhere cos up next, we'll be joined
by Sam Taylor-Johnson and Marisa Abela.
See you afterwards. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Welcome back to the show. Let's get my next guests out.
They are the brilliant director and star
of the amazing new Amy Winehouse movie, Back To Black.
It's Sam Taylor-Johnson and Marisa Abela.
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Here they are.
APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH
Marisa, thank you so much for being here. Come and sit down.
If you squeeze up the end here.
Hello!
ALL GREET EACH OTHER
So, congratulations on the new film.
Now, Marisa, you're playing Amy Winehouse.
Yeah, yeah. Sam, you're directing.
And I've got to say, it's an amazing performance.
Thank you. It's an incredible performance.
And a very, I would have thought, quite an overwhelming challenge
to take on playing someone who we feel we sort of know
and we're so familiar with. Yeah.
It must've been quite daunting.
It was. It was definitely nerve-wracking.
I mean, you know, I think you kind of have to take that fear
and use it as a kind of driving factor
in your preparation.
I mean, obviously, you have to do a lot of work
to make her physically recognisable
as the person that everyone knows as Amy Winehouse.
But then there's the other side, you know,
the person, the human, the woman behind the music,
and also, like, what we think we know of her.
Ancl I think that was the thing that I knew would turn this
from being any kind of an impersonation,
that I really didn't want it to feel like, into, you know...
I'm sure you must have auditioned a lot of actors to play the role.
Yeah. So what was it about Marisa
that made you think, "This is the one"?
I had all these young women sort of sitting outside, coming in,
and most of them had come in, in some shape or form,
with either a hoop earring or a cat-eye or something,
and Marisa had none of that.
She just came in as herself.
And I was just sort of, you know, fiddling around with the camera,
chatting with the casting director, Nina,
and I just looked in the lens,
and Marisa looked up, and she'd completely transformed.
She hadn't even said anything, and I thought, "That's her."
Wow. And it was just a shift.
It was something that's indescribable,
but just a shift in her DNA, where I just thought,
"|f she can do that at this point before we've even started work,
"then she's gonna be pretty good."
But what's good about the film as well, it's also a funny film.
Yeah. Yeah. And it's a light film at times.
It's not a downer. Obviously, it's a very sad story,
but it is actually kind of enervating as well. Yeah.
And the performance is amazing. I'm gonna show you...
We're gonna show you the trailer from it,
and watch it and listen to it, and then I'm gonna talk to Marisa
a bit about this afterwards.
This is Back To Black.
#Me
# Ancl my head high... #
Hello.
# And my tears dry
# Get on without my guy... #
I want people to hear my voice...
# Black... #
...and just forget their troubles.
Oi, oi! THEY LAUGH
You've gotta remember, I ain't no Spice Girl.
MAN: Amy Winehouse!
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# We only said goodbye with words
# I died a hundred times
# You go back... #
I wanna be remembered for just being me.
# Back to black. #
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KIRSTEN: WOW.
Amazing film.
It's also out on 12th April, same day as Civil War.
But what I want to speak to Marisa about there is,
that is Marisa singing.
Whoa! That's crazy! That's what's so amazing.
APPLAUSE Oh, my God! Thank you.
I was gonna ask you. I was like, "There's no way.
"That's Amy Winehouse's voice." Yeah.
That's insane. Wow! Thank you so much.
But did you go in knowing that you could sing like Amy?
No, not at all.
I actually don't even think anyone really asked me
during the audition process if I could sing.
I mean, you know, the final round was in Abbey Road Studios,
so by that point, I think people were trying to suss it out.
But it wasn't a prerequisite when I booked the job.
It was more kind of... I knew that Sam and I felt the same way,
is that, whoever was gonna play this part
needed to be Amy from the inside out,
and that was the most important thing.
So I just trained really hard, you know.
I sort of trained for two hours a clay for four months,
with my teacher, Anne-Marie Speed, and yeah.
But you've done things for films. You've learnt talents.
Didn't you learn to play piano for Power Of The Dog?
Yeah, I learned two songs, but they cut one of them out.
LAUGHTER
I just learned the parts that I had to learn, but it was, like,
over and over and over again every night,
cos I don't play the piano, and it was just, like...
Ancl my whole... I felt... I would just apologise to my family.
Like, "Here I go again." You know. Da-da-da, da-da-da.
So, yeah, it drove me nuts,
and I stopped playing after the movie.
But you know one of the things which I think really makes the film
and will make it have a real life
which will endure and become a classic,
is a cameo appearance.
By you? There is a moment in it.
Yeah, I'm actually in the film, OK, but it's not me.
Well, it is me. It is you.
Yeah, but I didn't act for it.
It was a clip. I think Amy's television interview,
the first interview she ever did was on my show.
Yeah. I interviewed her very early in her career,
because I'd heard her and I thought she was amazing,
I'd love to have her on. There she is.
It was a very different Amy. It was a very young Amy.
And you asked...
People asked if they could use the clip.
But when I watched the film... And I was slightly dreading it,
thinking, "Oh, my God, is it gonna look awful?"
But you switched Amy for Marisa in it.
Yeah. I've got no idea how you did that, but it's amazing,
because I remember interviewing Amy,
and then I see myself interviewing you as Amy.
But were you ever tempted...?
Did you think about having an actor play me
instead of using the actual footage?
I wanted to use you and the actual footage,
but then the guy that came in was actually really good,
and I did consider...
LAUGHTER
Was there someone there for you to act against, though?
Yeah, there was ajonathan Ross impersonator.
OK. Wow. So...
A lot of call for that, isn't there?!
LAUGHTER Sam sent some pictures.
Prepare yourselves.
It's quite a shock. Have a look at this.
LAUGHTER
KIRSTEN: Oh, my God. Wow.
That looks like some weird Al thing.
Marisa... Yes.
...to what extent did Amy stay with you, then?
To what extent did playing her sort of, like, linger?
I like to sort of keep the lines quite clear.
So I do a thing where I like to use...
I mean, I think everyone... A lot of people do it,
but I like to use perfumes because it's a sensory thing
that makes me feel like, you know,
I know my smell and my detergent and my perfume,
so when I'm playing someone else, I like to use a different smell.
And, yeah, I had an Amy perfume.
Ancl then I'd get home and wash it off.
I've clone that before. Susan Sarandon does that for roles.
I remember working with her on Little Women,
and she smelled like roses all the time. Yeah.
Which is so comforting and motherly, so I get that. Yeah.
It changes the way other people interact with you, too,
you know, how you smell... Yeah.
I kept thinking, "God, why's she wearing that strong perfume?"
LAUGHTER Now you know.
I know there's something you do in your work,
which is not related, but it's similar.
You sort of use your dreams, don't you? Mm-hm.
How do you use your dreams to help your acting?
In a way, it's like... You write...
What I do is I write what I need to know about the character,
or what I wanna know about the character.
Ancl then, whatever I dream that night,
I then analyse with this woman, who's more...
I don't like to call her an acting coach
because she's not an acting coach.
She's like an acting genie or something.
LAUGHTER So... But for, like...
OK, I'll give you an example.
This was a great dream for me. It was for Fargo season two.
I dreamt about a Scooby-Doo VHS in my dream.
Ancl I'm talking with my acting lady, Greta,
and she's like, "What does it make you think of?"
Ancl I was like, "The way they walk," cos they scurry around always.
And she's like, "There's your walk for Peggy."
Wow! Brilliant. Love that.
But it comes from your unconscious mind,
so you feel so much more grounded in who you're playing,
and it makes you more fearless as an actor, I've experienced.
And have you used this more than once?
I've been doing this since I was 27,
is when I started working with her, yeah.
Wow. Yeah.
Sam, you have directed your husband, haven't you? I have.
Aaron Taylor-Johnson, amazing young actor
who I've been a fan of for many years.
What were the films you had him in? Nowhere Boy was the first one.
Nowhere Boy and A Million Little Pieces.
And how is it, directing your husband?
Errn, it's really interesting. It's really...
I mean, when I directed Nowhere Boy, he wasn't my husband.
When I directed A Million Little Pieces,
as you can see here, he was.
That's me looking at him, very...
"Are you gonna get up out of that chair or...?"
LAUGHTER
And is he one of those actors...?
Cos he seems, from some of the roles I've seen,
especially as his career's progressed,
he seems to be getting more and more intense on screen.
Yeah. Is he kind of method?
Does he bring the characters home?
He gets very intense, and it's quite interesting,
depending on what character he's playing.
Nocturnal Animals, for example, was pretty hard.
Yeah. That, you know...
He was not washing, his nails were really long.
LAUGHTER Wow.
He wanted to be toxic from the inside,
in order to play such a toxic character.
There is that quote that Laurence Olivier said
to Dustin Hoffman when he was doing it,
where he said, "just try acting." Yeah.
LAUGHTER I mean, it was... It was, erm...
There was one morning where he woke up
and he thought the bed was on fire, but we were actually saging him.
Oh, my... LAUGHTER
Wow. Wow, I have...
Trying to purify your husband. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, that was an interesting one.
But, you know, it might not be so bad bringing the character home
if the rumours are true...
Ha-ha! Oh! That he's...
You mean that I might direct a Bond film?
The first woman director? Well, that would be amazing.
But also, that he might bejames Bond.
Not for me. I mean, I...
Carry on speculating. You don't think...
You're saying he wouldn't be a goodjames Bond?
He'd be great. He'd be great. But there is that talk.
And I know you've been championing him... I love him.
I love him. I mean, he's an amazing man.
Apart from being an amazing husband, amazing father,
amazing friend, I'm obsessed with Bond.
Ancl I got to meet all of them, apart from Sean Connery,
and I got to be very friendly with Roger Moore,
so much so that he phoned me up on my birthday about ten years ago.
"Happy birthday to you
"Happy birthday to you." LAUGHTER
He said, "|t's Roger Moore."
I said, "|t's very kind you called me.
"|'m actually lying in bed naked."
Ancl he went, "So am I." LAUGHTER
Ancl I said, "|t's such a shame we're not together."
He went, "I know!" Great, great fun.
But I would love to see Aaron...
I'd love to see Sam direct it, Aaron to be in it,
and for me to be the Bond girl. LAUGHTER
We're gonna take a break, but don't go away, because up next,
we'll be joined by Sports Personality of the Year, Mary Earps.
See you in a couple of minutes.
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Welcome back to the show. Let's get my next guest out.
She is an England and Manchester United goalkeeper,
whose heroics at the World Cup earned her fans around the world.
Of course, it could be no-one else but Mary Earps.
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M Wm“ a“! EQYQS' Maw
Hello, how are you? Thank you for coming on.
It's so lovely to meet you. So nice to meet you.
Hi, how are you? Are you OK? Hi, Mary, I'm Kirsten.
Hi, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.
Big fan, lovely to meet you. Oh, thank you.
You know, I'm sure I'm not alone. I'm genuinely quite starstruck.
I said the same. So am I, God!
It's amazing to meet you. Look at this couch!
But you're incredible,
and the success you're having right now is amazing.
Fully deserved. How old were you when you thought,
"OK, I am gonna be a goalkeeper"? When did you think,
"This is what I wanna do. This is what I can do"?
Erm, I feel like the love of goalkeeping started quite young,
maybe when I was about ten.
Erm, I saved a penalty in my first game.
You know, you all take rotations, and it was my turn in goal,
and then saved a penalty
and got that good old typical parent encouragement.
"See, if anyone else was in goal, Mary, no-one would have saved that."
Ancl that was it. I was sold. Who were you playing for then?
Then, West Bridgford Colts, just a local team from Nottingham.
So just a little local team?
A little local team. Sunday league, yeah.
And so that lit the fire, I guess.
Definitely. I just loved it, diving around in the mud.
I think the thrill of making what felt to me
like the biggest save of all time...
To everybody else, it was just, like, nothing.
Well, speaking about the biggest save of all time, World Cup, 2023.
Final. You're in the final.
And you lost, of course, to Spain... Mm.
...but what an incredible performance from you.
Yeah, it's hard, really. I think...
you sort of look back on it kind of bittersweet
because, obviously, to get to a World Cup final is amazing.
And, yeah, to save a penalty was, of course,
a fantastic moment for me personally.
But I think, I didn't come away with a win,
we didn't come away with a win.
And what is it you said after you'd saved the penalty?
Erm... LAUGHTER
It's been misinterpreted, to be fair. OK.
I think I was just in the moment.
I'm not sure exactly what I said.
I think we can show the clip... Oh, don't!
Don't. LAUGHTER
OK, this is Mary, 2023, against Spain.
It's the World Cup final, a penalty.
Can you imagine the pressure someone must be feeling? Yeah.
And how does that feel?
You must be aware, in that moment, what this means.
You know what? I wasn't even really thinking about it.
I was literally just trying to read the player, read the moment,
and I was just thinking,
"|f we can stay in this moment and it stays at 1-0..."
You know, I backed the girls to go on and score and grab a goal.
I think we were...
really spurred in that moment,
and we created a lot more chances,
and I really felt that it was gonna happen.
But we didn't quite make it, but I think we did ourselves proud.
Look at this. This is amazing.
COMMENTATOR: Which way is it gonna go for Hermoso?
Saved!
Saved by Mary Earps for England.
They will check her positioning on the line...
...but she's kept England alive in this World Cup final.
LAUGHTER
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Oh!
APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH
OK.
I never swear at home.
I can't believe that was captured live.
It's understandable. In the moment, it's understandable.
That's forgivable, isn't it?
Everyone at home is doing the same thing with you. Yeah, yeah.
Kirsten, are you big into football? Do you follow football?
To be honest, the World Cup is the one thing I love to watch.
My dad's from Germany, so we'll go to, like, a German bar...
Hold it. You support Germany in the World Cup?
Yeah, sorry. Oh, my...
I'm sorry!
What am I supposed...? No, of course. I'm joking.
But that's lovely. It's great. I mean, you know, it's my clad.
He's the one who introduced me to the World Cup,
so I've gotta cheer with my clad.
David, we can see you're obviously a big football fan.
No, I... Well, I like it
on an international level because I like...
Cos when, you know, the international team does well,
everyone's happy-
It's the mood of the country, isn't it?
So I did, and I have seen quite a few football matches,
actually, Jonathan, unlike you. LAUGHTER
When did you last see a football match?
I tell you when I last saw a football...
I went to watch Leyton Orient's women's team play.
Oh. Yeah.
That shut you up. LAUGHTER
Congratulations, by the way, on Sports Personality of the Year.
Thank you. Yeah.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE That was amazing, and well deserved.
I think everyone was so excited for you.
Oh, great dress! Thank you. I loved it.
Controversial.
Is that the trophy they give you to take home?
Yeah, it's massive. It's so heavy.
Big old trophy. It is, yeah.
And do you keep that for the year or forever?
For the year, yeah.
Yeah, for the year, so it's at home, pride of place.
Is that a big night? You go out and celebrate?
You know what? I'm not a massive party person,
but I like to celebrate big moments. That was definitely a big moment.
But I think it was just quite low-key.
I was fortunate that I was able to bring
a few family and friends, like, closest people
who've kind of seen me at the bottom
as well as that obviously being a massive high.
So it was nice to have them with me and celebrate that moment with them
for all the rubbish that they've put up with over the years
from me, and me coming home heartbroken
about a game or a training session or whatever.
So, yeah, it was really, really nice, a really nice evening.
Ancl then a pretty early night,
and then I got up and flew
to the Caribbean the next clay for a holiday.
Fantastic. Fully deserved. Big party night, though.
You were at the Oscars this year, weren't you, Kirsten? Yes.
Did you go to any of the Oscar parties afterwards? Yeah.
Jesse's film was nominated, Killers Of The Flower Moon.
He was in that movie, and then I was just...
It was nice to just be the date. You know, no pressure.
But then, yeah, we went and partied.
Went to jay-Z and Beyonce's party. Wow. Wow.
Jay-Z hugged me. Jay-Z hugged you?
Yes, he did. Wow. That's a big...
I was, like, "Thank you for the party."
LAUGHTER Yeah.
And we danced and had a great time.
I just tried to dance near Beyonce's friends. Yeah.
Like one of the single ladies, just doing that.
Yeah, yeah. LAUGHTER
Mary, let me ask you about another...
It's not really a controversy, but something that kind of happened.
It swirled around you, rather than you being involved,
is when Nike didn't make your shirt for sale.
Right.
Which seemed like an odd thing at the time.
And I think they didn't make it because they didn't think that
the shirts from the women's team would sell as well.
Mm-hm. Is that the reason they gave?
Yeah, I think that's my understanding.
I think it's kind of...
The narrative is always that goalkeeping doesn't sell,
or it doesn't sell very well,
or it's kind of pointless to sell goalkeeper-specific things.
There's very few brands in the market that do.
Erm... so, yeah, we had some pretty tough conversations
that unfortunately didn't really lead anywhere,
until, then, it became a much bigger story
than I could ever possibly anticipate.
Ancl because of the incredible people back home that got behind me,
and all over the world, we managed to, yeah, change something that...
It'll ever happen again, basically, now.
We've changed the world forever. That's amazing. Amazing.
Wow. That is amazing. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
The people. The people. It was like people power, wasn't it?
It was the people, yeah.
Erm, Mary...
Jonathan. LAUGHTER
I was talking earlier to Kirsten and to Marisa about things
they've learned in their job. Right.
And I know there's something you've learned,
which isn't necessarily to do with your job,
but it might be linked to football. Oh, yeah.
A peculiar skill you have.
I've never brought this out on TV before.
Before we tell everyone what it is... Mm.
...just to whet their appetite,
when did you discover you could do this?
You know what?
It's probably somewhere in my childhood or teenage years.
just laziness, ain't it?
So, it's, like, "Well, why do the conventional thing
"and pick things up with your hands?"
When you could pick things up with your...? Toes.
But not just any things. Apples.
I mean... LAUGHTER
See, I've heard of people...
I've picked up things with my feet. Have you ever picked up things?
All the time, and I've taught my sons, too.
When they drop their little loveys or something,
I just grab it with my toes. Yeah.
And I pick up Lego bricks and stuff like that.
Not an apple. But I've never felt emboldened
or confident enough to tackle a large fruit.
Yeah. I think you have!
LAUGHTER
Are we gonna see this skill?
Well, if Mary is willing,
would you mind showing us, maybe at the end of the show?
Listen... give the people with foot fetishes what they want.
LAUGHTER Yeah.
OK. So, if you stay tuned, hopefully, we will see
Mary picking up an apple with her foot.
If that isn't the most exciting moment of TV this year,
I don't know what is. Don't go away.
Also up next, we'll be joined by Yung Filly,
and Madness will be performing at the end of the show.
We'll see you after the break. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Welcome back to the show.
My next guest is one of the biggest and most exciting YouTubers around,
who's taken the music world by storm as well
with his collaboration with Aitch. Take a look at this.
# Like I'm one away Only one away
# How come I see the colour grey? How come?
# Come now, we are not the same
# Found nothin' on my name... #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE That's him in action.
Here he is in person. It's Yung Filly.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH
Hi, again. Hiya. Hiya.
Hi, again. Hi, again. Hi, again. Hi.
Come and sit down, come and sit down.
So, Yung Filly, am I right in thinking that's not your real name?
That's not your actual name, is it? No, my real name's very long.
OK, what's your real name? Give us the long version.
Andres Felipe Valencia Barrientos.
Wow! WHOOPING
That's a sexy name. Yeah, it is, innit? Mum clone well.
Where's that from? Colombia.
Yeah.
You're from Colombia originally? Yeah, I was born there.
I think I come here when I was, like, two.
Moved back from 16 until 18, then back here again.
You moved back to do something, didn't you? To play football.
Ah, got a lot in common.
Ancl then I realised I don't really like football.
LAUGHTER Not so much in common.
Cos I thought, "|f I'm Lionel Messi
"and I win every cup, get a mad sponsor,
"I can't go on holiday for six months." Yeah.
Cos the season starts in two weeks. Yeah.
So I realised football is not something I wanna do.
So you could've been Messi, but you decided against it.
No, no, I definitely weren't that good.
So, where did Yung Filly come from, then?
Erm, so...
Everyone calls me... well, used to call me Felipe,
but everyone used to say "Feli-pay". Right.
And that ream] used to annoy me,
so I come up with the nickname Filly.
Ancl then, at the time,
all the rappers had, like, "young" or "little" in their name,
like Lil Wayne, so I just put Yung in front of it, Yung Filly.
But now you're dropping the Yung, aren't you?
I want to... Yeah.
...but I don't know how they're gonna take to it. Yeah.
Like, they know me as Yung Filly. So, just Filly?
Yeah, I think it's, like, more grown, innit?
Yeah, but it doesn't... LAUGHTER
Well, yeah, cos it doesn't have "Yung" in the title. Yeah.
It's not... Filly doesn't...
Yung Filly, it's got that balance to it.
It's got almost a poetry to it.
No, I'm trying to do the transition to Filly.
I said it on my podcast that I've got with Chunkz.
Ancl I dunno, it's just hard.
All my socials are Yung Filly. Like, I dunno. It's gonna be hard.
Speaking about your socials,
you're huge on TikTok and on all those platforms.
And that's kind of what you do, isn't it? Yeah.
I know you're doing music now as well,
but that sort of was your business, your career.
Yeah, that's the bread and butter. When did you decide...
When did it become clear to you that you could make a living doing that?
How long were you doing it
before you decided that was gonna be your focus?
I guess I was just inspired from early.
I mean, I remember I clone a video on Snapchat,
and at the time, I only had, like, 200 viewers.
I put the video on Facebook.
It was a 15-minute video, and I got a million views in a clay,
which is kind of unheard of. What was the video?
My ex cheating on me. LAUGHTER
No, not like that. It weren't that bad.
It was, like, me explaining the situation,
but in a comical way.
Right, so you made it entertaining. Yeah, I made it funny.
But the reason I'm asking you, because I've met a few people
who came up through Twitch or streaming platforms,
that kind of thing, and normally, they came from being...
They were young people playing, say, FIFA or something online,
and then they got a big following
and they thought, "I can make this work."
But you already had a career and a job, didn't you?
Yeah. What were you doing?
I was a junior broker. But you were doing OK, weren't you?
I was doing all right, yeah. Yeah.
You were, as I believe the saying goes, you were taking home bag.
LAUGHTER Yeah, I was taking home some bags.
But it weren't good of me, cos I weren't helping my mum.
I was young and immature, you know.
But now, as I've got older, I'm helping Mumsy, which is good.
But what did your parents think, when you gave up
what must have seemed like a fairly solid job
in the world of brokering,
and then you said, "|'m gonna do TikToks"?
LAUGHTER No, that sounds mad!
Sounds mental. That's what I'm thinking.
Your mum must have thought that, didn't she?
Yeah, she weren't happy. I think her concern at the time...
We were struggling a lot, those times.
Her concern was just... KIRSTEN: She's beautiful.
...making sure I can at least still bring money for the rent, you know.
Mary, you signed your first professional contract
when you were 23, I think... Yeah.
So you were working before that, I guess.
What you doing before football became your full-time?
I worked in a cinema. That was my all-time favourite, to be honest.
I used to just sneak in and watch the last 30, 40 minutes of films
on a shift and get paid for it. It was so great.
Yeah. LAUGHTER
And, Marisa, you were heading down another path
before you decided to be an actor, is that right?
Well, I mean, I just knew that it's an unstable life, you know,
and I think I was nervous, in the same way,
like, you know, I wanted to be self-sufficient,
and so I thought I'd go to university and study law,
and that's what I planned to do.
Ancl then I got in. I got into UCL to study,
and then I was walking past RADA on an open clay,
so I went inside and watched a show
and I was just like, "Oh, yeah, I'd love to do that."
So I auditioned that year, and I deferred my place,
and I was like, "|f| get in, I'll go.
"|f| don't, I'll go to university."
And, you know, I got into RADA, so I went.
So your mum actively encouraged you away from law...
LAUGHTER
...which is famously a very well-paying and secure job...
Yeah. ..into acting, which is famously the opposite.
Right. Filly, let's go back.
We showed a picture of your mum. You're obviously very close there.
When did she realise that it was working for you?
Was there a moment when she thought, "OK, he's made the right choice"?
When I retired her. Wow.
Yeah, I retired my mum. She used to work in Poundland,
and it got to the point where, where she was working in Poundland,
people would see the resemblance between me and her and go,
"Are you Filly's mum? Are you Filly's mum?"
Then some people asked for pictures and she got really embarrassed.
So then, I remember I gave her a call once and I was, like,
"Mum, you can quit your job. I've got you now."
And she didn't kind of know how to take it.
So then, months went on, she was still working.
I called her again and I was, like, "Mum, seriously, now,
"you ain't gotta work again," and, yeah, made her my PA.
Wow. Hold on. Yeah?
LAUGHTER
No, but it's not like work work, is it? But hold on.
LAUGHTER
You tell someone they never have to work again...
Apart from for me.
...you don't then say, "You're my PA."
Yeah, but she's not, like, getting coffees and that,
and, like, my laundry.
But what is she doing? just checks an email and says,
"Yo, be here at this time." That's working!
Yeah, but she loves it, she loves it.
Look, I'm sure she loves it. She's involved in her son's life,
who obviously cares for her very much. Yeah.
And you're right, she's not having to put up with your fans
coming and bothering her while she's working in Poundland.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's buzzing, she's absolutely buzzing.
How did the thing with Aitch come about?
Because this is a big step.
He's a big star right now, and this is a big thing.
How did that come about?
Yeah, he's amazing, man, one of my closest friends.
Erm... How did it come about?
Well, the song was doing really, really well, and then...
When I got into music, I didn't know that if you clone a remix,
it helps with the sales of the original song. Right.
So, I was just out of the top 40 and I was like,
"Right, I need a remix, and I need to do it quick."
Ancl then, when it was time to, like, thinking about who I wanna ask,
I didn't really wanna do it with someone that I didn't know
cos I thought, "When it comes to performing a song on tour,
"|'d like to bring out my mate
"and be travelling the country with my mate."
So I thought about all the artists
that are quite big and that are my friends,
and the first one I could think of was Aitch.
Sent him the song, he was like...
AS AITCH: "Yo, this is a banger, this."
That was my Manny accent. That was good.
Was that all right? Yeah, it was good.
And, yeah, he said he loved it, and he clone it.
Here's the thing, Filly. Go on.
I'm sure you've had an exciting life so far. Yeah.
It's just about to get a lot more exciting. Go on. Why?
Have you ever seen... SAM: Oh, bless you.
...a woman... LAUGHTER
--Pi¢|< LIP an apple...?
Oh, yeah, we spoke about this backstage! Mm.
I don't even get how she's got to the point
of like, trying to, wanna do it. I don't get it.
LAUGHTER Know what I mean?
But Mary said, initially, it was probably laziness.
No, but don't your mind know that it can't wrap round the apple,
that it don't spread that wide, the toes? Know what I mean?
But doesn't everyb0dy's toes spread like that? No.
No, Mary, what you're doing is mad.
LAUGHTER No, it's mental.
On TV, it's mental. APPLAUSE
No, sorry, I mean it.
My toes have been sweating, cos I'm quite nervous.
Do you want me to get a towel for your toes?
Yeah, maybe some towels. Can we have a towel toe? Toe towel?
LAUGHTER A tattoo?
I actually feel really nervous.
We're sending out for a toe towel.
I'm really sweating. just rub them on the ground.
No, no, we'll get a towel, we'll get a towel.
Do you wanna...? Hold it.
Do you wanna pluck it from the bowl?
Yeah, bring the bowl.
Or shall we get it out so it's independent of the other fruit?
Oh, it needs to be... I'm not gonna take it out of there!
OK, that's what I'm asking.
Right, OK, enough chitchat, now, Mary. Get on with it.
It's a sweaty apple. SAM LAUGHS
You got it. Oh.
I've got it. Oh, I can't... Oh, no, you had it then.
This is like watching one of those claw games in an arcade.
LAUGHTER I need to...
Bring it home, Mary, bring it home.
It's so sweaty! Look at this.
Do you want me to get it dried off? Can I have the towel?
Here you are, Jonathan. Catch. Let's dry off this apple.
Oh, Jesus Christ! LAUGHTER
KIRSTEN: Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God! Wow.
Wow! Wow, Mary!
You went right for it.
I mean, I'm sorry.
OK. Is this a...?
DAVID: This show has taken a turn for the worse.
Here you go.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Yes! Yes!
CH EERING DROWNS SPEECH
LAUGHTER, SCREAMING
It would be David to do that! Amazing! Amazing!
It's not that big of a deal. I'll eat the fucking apple!
He's still eating it!
Mary...
I don't care.
LAUGHTER
Come on, everyone...
Wow, that was amazing! Let's hear it again
for Mary Earps' very amazing foot-based skill.
Will you join me in saying thank you to all my guests?
The fabulous David Walliams, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you, thank you. CHEERING
The wonderful Kirsten Dunst.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Marisa Abela, who's amazing as Amy Winehouse.
Thank you. Sam Taylor-Johnson.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Ma ry Ea rps .
And of course, he used to be Yung Filly, it's just Filly now.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
But now, with "Round We Go"
from their number-one album C'est La Vie,
it is, of course, Madness!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
# Round and round we go
# Round we go again
# Red cheeks and a pair of wings
# Is this what mother gave him?
# He'll hear the angels sing
# On high for all to praise him
# God's gift
# Ancl no-one wants to know him
# She'll sing
# A lullaby and life will show him
# The sun comes up And the sun goes down
# The wheels come off Ancl the deals go down
# The news comes out Ancl the star is found
# We may the game And go round and round
# White teeth and a knowing smile
# You'll hear no words of wisdom
# Her son is in denial
# She hopes the world forgives him
# Well, God's gift
# Ancl no-one wants to know him
# She'll sing
# A lullaby and life will show him
# That the sun comes up And the sun goes down
# The wheels come off Ancl the deals go down
# The news comes out Ancl the star is found
# We may the game And go round and round
# Round and round we go
# Round we go again
# Around and around we go
# Round we go again
# Her son, her little boy
# Too sly, too cruel to mention
# Well-crafted lies deployed
# He won't accept redemption
# Was God's gift
# Ancl no-one wants to know him
# She'll sing
# A lullaby and life will show him
# The sun comes up And the sun goes down
# The wheels come off Ancl the deals go down
# The news comes out Ancl the star is found
# We may the game And go round and round
# Round and round we go
# Round we go again
# Yeah, around and around we go
# Round we go again
# But the sun comes up And the sun goes down
# The wheels come off Ancl the deals go down
# The news comes out Ancl the star is found
# We play the game and go round And round and round. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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