CHEERING.
>>
Thank
Y0u_
CHEERING. >> Thank
Y0u_
>> Thank you. Thank
'Nu
SO
much.
Thank you so much. Of
course,
thank
'Nu
for
tuning
if'
Of course, thank you for tuning in at
home.
Good
evening
everyone.
Of course, thank you for tuning in at home. Good evening
everyone.
At home. Good evening everyone. And
welcome
to
The
Jonathan
Ross
And welcome to The Jonathan Ross Show.
Obviously,
the
big
story
this
Show. Obviously, the big story this week
if
that
WE
have
Yet
another
HGW
week is that we have yet another new Prime
Minister.
That
job's
becoming
Prime Minister. That job's becoming like
Jury
duty.
It's
li ke
a
HGW
form
like jury duty. It's like a new form of
democracy.
We're
all
going
to
be
of democracy. We're all going to be Prime
Minister
for
three
days.
We
Prime Minister for three days. We got
a
great
show
lined
LIP
tonight.
Got a great show lined up tonight. Let's
S66
who's
if'
the
green
room.
Let's see who's in the green room. First
UPI
WE
6P6
excited
to
have
First up, we are excited to have her,
the
star
the
Strictly,
a
loose
her, the star the Strictly, a loose woman
regular,
it's
Judy
Love,
woman regular, it's Judy Love, ladies
and
gentleman.
Next
to
Judy
ladies and gentleman. Next to Judy an
Olympic
diving
legend
and
an Olympic diving legend and national.
National. Treasure,
the
0H6
and
on ly!
Tom
Treasure, the one and only, Tom Daley.
Great
to
have
'Nu
back
on
the
show
Great to have you back on the show also
on
the
show,
BAFTA
winner,
the,
also on the show, BAFTA winner, the, Georgina
Campbell.
Georgina Campbell. Thanks
for
joining
US.
Georgina Campbell. Thanks for joining
US.
Thanks for joining us. And
I'm
excited
about
this,
WE
have
And I'm excited about this, we have a
real
treat
for
Y0u_
You'll
kn ow
a real treat for you. You'll know him
best
from
Peaky
Blinders,
he's
him best from Peaky Blinders, he's one
of
the
most
celebrated
poets
of
one of the most celebrated poets of 50
And
accomplished
marshal
50 years, and accomplished marshal artist.
The
incredible,
Benjamin
artist. The incredible, Benjamin Zefaniah.
We
have
a
brilliant
Zefaniah. We have a brilliant comedian.
One
of
rrlY
favourite
guests
comedian. One of my favourite guests on
the
show,
the
hilarious,
Rob
on the show, the hilarious, Rob Beckett,
ladies
and
gentleman!
Beckett, ladies and gentleman! I'm
just
going
to
58%
WE
also
did
I'm just going to say, we also did have
Lena
Dunham
booked
tonight,
have Lena Dunham booked tonight, unfortunately
she
couldn't
make
—
It
unfortunately she couldn't make. It she's
not
well.
Hopefully,
she'll
she's not well. Hopefully, she'll join
US
later
if'
the
series.
To
join us later in the series. To round
US
off
tonight,
great
music
round us off tonight, great music from
an
amazing
singer
50ng
writer,
from an amazing singer song writer, Dermot
Kennedy,
ladies
and
Dermot Kennedy, ladies and gentleman.
Gentleman. APPLAUSE
gentleman.
Gentleman. APPLAUSE.
Now,
if
there's.
Now, if there's. One
modern
trend
People
6P6
rea lly
One modern trend people are really embracing
it's
the
bottom less
embracing it's the bottomless brunch.
It's
not
a
brunch
where
brunch. It's not a brunch where you're
naked
from
the
waist
down.
You're naked from the waist down. Though,
that
sounds
li ke
fun.
It's
Though, that sounds like fun. It's when
the
glass
if
bottomless.
You
when the glass is bottomless. You start
at
11am,
stay
3S
long
3S
'Nu
start at 11am, stay as long as you want
and
they
keBP
refilling
want and they keep refilling whatever
you're
drinking.
That
[TIGERS
whatever you're drinking. That means things
can
Set
a
little
messy.
One
things can get a little messy. One man
found
out
when
his
home
camera
man found out when his home camera captured
the
evidence
of
his
wife
captured the evidence of his wife coming
home
from
a
session
with
her
coming home from a session with her friends.
There
she
is.
Friends. There she is. You
can
S66
she
started
at
You can see she started at brunch time.
It's
li ke
midnight.
Big
brunch time. It's like midnight. Big day
out.
She's
thinking
the
path
day out. She's thinking the path will
save
me.
I'll
stick
to
the
will save me. I'll stick to the path.
That
will
Set
me
home.
Stick
path. That will get me home. Stick to
the
path.
What
could
POSSIBLY
90
to the path. What could possibly go wrong.
To the path. What could possibly go
to the path. What could possibly go wrong.
Wrong. Almost
there,
this
if
going
to
work.
Almost there, this is going to work. I'm
going
it
make
it.
Ohhh.
I'm going it make it. Ohhh. LAUGHTER
She
doesn't
start
where
she
fell.
She doesn't start where she fell. She doesn't start where she fell.
She goes
back.
She goes back. Because
the
path
I
HOW.
Because the path - now. She
looks
li ke
she's
if'
the
cube.
She looks like she's in the cube. She's
going
to
do
it.
She's
going
to
She's going to do it. She's going to get
there.
Stick
to
the
Path,
can
get there. Stick to the path, can you
do
it.
Yeah.
Come
OH.
You do it. Yeah. Come on. Yeah,
she
did
it!
Yeah, she did it! APPLAUSE
Yeah, she did it!
APPLAUSE.
Let's
start
the
program me,
bring
out
Let's start the program me, bring out mY
guests,
first
owl
Georgina
my guests, first owl Georgina Campbell,
Tom
Daley
and
Beckett.
Campbell, Tom Daley and Beckett. APPLAUSE
Campbell, Tom Daley and Beckett.
APPLAUSE.
Good
to
S66
Yo u,
sit
down.
APPLAUSE. Good to see you, sit
down.
Good to see you, sit down. Thank
'Nu
all
for
joining
US.
Good to see you, sit down. Thank you all for joining
US.
Thank you all for joining us. It's
Hallowe'en
of
COUFSG
and
while
It's Hallowe'en of course and while the
exciting
things
for
me
horror
the exciting things for me horror movies.
Georgina.
Movies. Georgina. ls
if'
a
HGW
0H6
ca lled
Barbarian.
I
ls in a new one called Barbarian. I will
ask
the
other
guys,
6P6
'Nu
a
will ask the other guys, are you a fan
of
horror
movies?
I
do.
I
don't
fan of horror movies? I do. I don't particularly
li ke
90W
ONES.
I
li ke
particularly like gory ones. I like scary
ones,
the
one
that
make
Vim
scary ones, the one that make you tingle
inside
a
little
bit.
Tingle inside a little bit. LAUGHTER
tingle inside a little bit.
Tingle inside a little bit. LAUGHTER.
That
doesn't
sound
like
El
horror
That doesn't sound like a horror film.
You
li ke
them?
I
used
to
like
film. You like them? I used to like them.
IVTY
wife
hates
them.
I
find
them. My wife hates them. I find life
stressful.
I
need
to
chill
out
life stressful. I need to chill out when
I'm
at
home.
I
don't
know
if
I
when I'm at home. I don't know if I want
to
watch
someone
get
chased
and
want to watch someone get chased and murdered.
No
of fence.
Good
luck
with
murdered. No of fence. Good luck with the
film.
The film. LAUGHTER
ls
i1:
go ry?
Yeah,
i1:
I?
Of
the
but
Is it gory? Yeah, it is of the but funny
EIS
well.
What
can
'Nu
tell
bus
funny as well. What can you tell bus it?
It's
basically
about
a
woman
who
it? It's basically about a woman who goes
to
an
air
bnb
and
it's
double
goes to an air bnb and it's double booked.
It's
5C3”
enough
already.
Booked. It's scary enough already. It's
Bill
Skaarsgaard.
He
Played
It's BillSkaarsgaard. He played Penny
Wise
if'
the
It
movies.
He
did
Penny Wise in the It movies. He did that
thing
with
his
mouth.
That's
that thing with his mouth. That's making
Tom
90
tingly.
You're
double
making Tom go tingly. You're double booked.
Booked. Yeah,
and
then
there's
something
if'
Yeah, and then there's something in the
basement.
Yeah, and then there's something in the
basement.
The basement. But
it
I?'
it's
an
edge
of
Your
seat
But it is, it's an edge of your seat thing.
Let's
show
a
cliP
first.
This
thing. Let's show a clip first. This is
the
trailer.
Hopefully
it
doesn't
is the trailer. Hopefully it doesn't give
too
much
away.
You
need
to
S66
give too much away. You need to see this,
to
experience
it.
It's
out
HOW
this, to experience it. It's out now Barbarian.
I
100%
recommend
it.
I'm
Barbarian. I 100% recommend it. I'm Keith.
Tess.
You
take
the
bedroom.
Keith. Tess. You take the bedroom. I'll
sleep
out
here
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The
couch.
Keith. Tess. You take the bedroom. I'll sleep out here on the
couch.
I'll sleep out here on the couch. Oh,
God.
Oh, God. DOOR
OPENING.
Oh, God. DOOR
OPENING.
DOOR OPENING. FOOTSTEPS.
DOOR OPENING.
FOOTSTEPS.
New
me.
New
me.
Help me. Keith!
Help!
Keith!
Help!
This
process
might
seem
This process might seem overwhelming.
Overwhelming. But
with
a
little
practice
_—_
overwhelming. But with a little practice
_—_
But with a little practice it
can
S0Ol1
become
a
pleasurable
it can soon become a pleasurable experience.
CHEERING
8t.
APPLAUSE
CHEERING & APPLAUSE Amazing.
CHEERING & APPLAUSE
Amazing.
You
can
S66
_—_
yeah.
Amazing. You can see
yeah.
You can see yeah. I've
90ne
all
tingly
inside.
I've gone all tingly inside. LAUGHTER
Happy
Hallowe'en
if'
advance.
Happy Hallowe'en in advance. Wasn't
there
a
QM'!
SCGHG
that
was
Wasn't there a gory scene that was cut
out.
Tell
US
about
that.
Yeah
cut out. Tell us about that. Yeah there
was
a
SCENE
that
was
cut
out.
There was a scene that was cut out. I
had
nothing
to
do
with
it.
I
SO
I had nothing to do with it. I so happily
was
there,
there
was
a
rat
happily was there, there was a rat involved,
which
I
already
was
ream]
Involved, which I already was really excited
about.
I
love
rats.
You
know
excited about. I love rats. You know when
Vim
hear
horse
girls
and
girls
when you hear horse girls and girls who
love
horses,
I'm
a
rat
girl.
And
who love horses, I'm a rat girl. And so,
'Nu
90':
the
rat.
There's
the
so, you got the rat. There's the rat.
Ratthew
the
rat.
Justin
Long
I?
Rat. Ratthew the rat. Justin Long is in
the
film.
I
don't
know
if
that
in the film. I don't know if that ruins
it,
but
I've
said
it.
He
I?
Ruins it, but I've said it. He is fed
the
rat,
which
obviously
the'!
Fed the rat, which obviously they didn't
USE
the
real
rat.
Th6!-
Vim
didn't use the real rat. They, you know,
he
was
there,
and
then
there
know, he was there, and then there was
a
fake
rat.
Th6Y
had
to
figure
was a fake rat. They had to figure out
the
WHY
of
one
of
the
characters
out the way of one of the characters regurgitates
the
rat
into
Justin
regurgitates the rat into Justin Long's
mouth,
li ke
bah'!
Birding
him.
Long's mouth, like baby birding him. Oh,
rnY
God.
Th6Y
used
procuitto,
Oh, my God. They used procuitto, then
he
bah'!
Birded
i1:
into
Justin
then he baby birded it into just in Long.
Then
the'!
Didn't
EVE“
USE
the
Long. Then they didn't even use the scene!
Scene! One
actor
did
actually
chew
LIP
the
One actor did actually chew up the ham.
Yeah.
And
dropped
it
into
ham. Yeah. And dropped it into another
actor's
mouth?
Yeah.
And
another actor's mouth? Yeah. And then
they
didn't
USE
that
scene?
Another actor's mouth? Yeah. And then they didn't use that
scene?
Then they didn't use that scene? Yeah.
L1:
makes
'Nu
feel
like
Covicrs
Yeah. It makes you feel like Covid's really
90ne
HOW.
Really gone now. LAUGHTER.
Really.
LAUGHTER.
Really.
APPLAUSE
Really.
APPLAUSE.
Do
'Nu
celebrate
Hallowe'en
if'
a
big
Do you celebrate Hallowe'en in a big way?
I
don't.
I'm
usually
working.
I
way? I don't. I'm usually working. I haven't
done
Hallowe'en.
I
don't
haven't clone Hallowe'en. I don't know,
I
recently
turned
30
and
I
know, I recently turned 30 and I feel
li ke
I've
become
a
ream]
Feel like I've become a really boring
person.
Boring person. I
don't
want
to
do
anything
an'!
I don't want to do anything any more.
More. I'm
tired.
Going
out
I?
Overrated,
I'm tired. Going out is overrated, isn't
it?
Do
Vim
90
out
an'!
More?
Isn't it? Do you go out any more? Not
really.
I
can't
come
to
Your
Not really. I can't come to your Hallowe'en
Party
because
I've
g0':
Hallowe'en party because I've got children.
Children. They
want
to
S10
trick
OI'
treating.
I
They want to go trick or treating. I know
you're
into
Hallowe'en.
I'm
know you're into Hallowe'en. I'm not.
It's
El
bit,
I
still
live
if'
not. It's a bit, I still live in south-east
London.
It's
El
dicey
south-east London. It's a dicey route
south-east London. It's a dicey
route.
Route. Knocking
on
houses,
Knocking on houses, can
I
have
_—_
bang!
Knocking on houses, can I have
bang!
Can I have bang! Tom,
what
about
'Nu?
Since
last
time
Tom, what about you? Since last time you
W6 ['6
on
the
show,
you've
become
you were on the show, you've become a
father.
Yeah,
four
yea rs
old.
You were on the show, you've become a father. Yeah, four years
old.
A father. Yeah, four years old. APPLAUSE
Congratulations.
APPLAUSE
Congratulations.
We
have
a
weekend
full
of
it.
NW
We have a weekend full of it. My husband's
American.
We
decorate
the
husband's American. We decorate the house.
We
have
a
kids
Pam!
Tomorrow
house. We have a kids party tomorrow and
trick
OI'
treating
0|'!
Monday.
And trick or treating on Monday. So
he
wants
to
be,
I
Slave
HM
a
So he wants to be, I gave HM a choice
of
lots
of
things
he
wanted
choice of lots of things he wanted to
be.
He
chose
the
grim
reaper.
Choice of lots of things he wanted to be. He chose the grim
reaper.
To be. He chose the grim reaper. LAUGHTER
to be. He chose the grim reaper.
To be. He chose the grim reaper. LAUGHTER.
We
have
a
picture
of
'Nu
with
Your
We have a picture of you with your son
dressed
LIP
for
hole
WGGH.
This
son dressed up for hole wean. This might
be
last
Yfiap
I
think
it
is.
Might be last year. I think it is. Yeah
we
WE FE
Batman
and
Robin.
Which
Yeah we were Batman and Robin. Which one's
which?
One's which? LAUGHTER
one's which?
One's which? LAUGHTER.
Yeah
Batman
and
Robin.
I
made
the
Yeah Batman and Robin. I made the costume.
I
saY
made,
a
lot
of
hot
costume. I say made, a lot of hot glue.
|:||:|FORCEDWH|TE
The
one
you're
glue. [IBFORCEDWHITE The one you're wearing.
That's
the
harder
costume.
Wearing. That's the harder costume. I
thought
Vim
meant
Batman
which
I thought you meant Batman which essentially
looks
li ke
bin
bags.
Essentially looks like bin bags. Before
we
90
to
the
break,
something
Before we go to the break, something came
to
light
recently
and
I
didn't
came to light recently and I didn't know
this
about
one
of
OUT
guests,
know this about one of our guests, Rob,
who
I
genuinely
li ke
v6"!
Much,
Rob, who I genuinely like very much, and
he's
v6"!
Funny.
I
didn't
kn ow
and he's very funny. I didn't know that
'Nu
W6 ['6
li ke
politically
that you were like politically active.
Am
I?
Active. Am I? Yeah.
Active. Am I?
Yeah.
I'm
not
the
next
Prime
Minister,
am
I'm not the next Prime Minister, am I?
I'm not the next Prime Minister, am
I?
LAUGHTER
I?
LAUGHTER.
I
saw
'Nu
on
the
news,
there
was
a
I saw you on the news, there was a protest
to
510?
Oil
and
leading
the
protest to stop oil and leading the protest to stop oil and leading the
protest was
Rob
Beckett.
I
thought
protest was Rob Beckett. I thought that's
amazing
that
you're
engaging
that's amazing that you're engaging with
the
real
world.
This
WES
Ell]
With the real world. This was an accident
HEY
were.
Accident they were. Doing
El
road
block
thing.
I
g0':
Doing a road block thing. I got stuck
if'
traffic.
I
left
the
car.
I
stuck in traffic. I left the car. I walked
through
and
loads
of
People.
Walked through and loads of people. Oh,
everyone's
g0':
out
of
their
car
Oh, every0ne's got out of their car and
started
walking.
L1:
wasn't.
And started walking. It wasn't. There
WES
El
protest.
I
g0':
to
the
There was a protest. I got to the front
of
it,
I
WES
late.
There
were
front of it, I was late. There were camera
crews.
People
taking
photos.
Camera crews. People taking photos. Paparazzi
going,
"Rob
WW
are
'Nu
Paparazzi going, "Rob why are you involved?"
I'm
not!
Paparazzi going, "Rob why are you involved?" I'm
not!
Involved?" I'm not! I
had
El
pair
of
CTOCS
On,
made
out
I had a pair of crocs on, made out of
crude
oil.
I
don't
know
what
oil
of crude oil. I don't know what oil it
I?'
cooking,
olive,
I'm
not
sure.
It is, cooking, olive, I'm not sure. LAUGHTER
Have
a
look
at
this.
Have a look at this. I
recognise
Wu,
I
don't
know
why.
I recognise you, I don't know why. I'm
one
of
these
oil
guys.
Are
Vim
I'm one of these oil guys. Are you joining
the
Protest?
No,
I'm
trying
joining the protest? No, I'm trying to
get
to
work.
Who
are
Wu?
I'm
to get to work. Who are you? I'm from
ITV.
We're
covering
the
from ITV. We're covering the protest.
I'm
not
if'
the
protest.
Protest. I'm not in the protest. You've
been
disrupted.
Yeah,
I
was
You've been disrupted. Yeah, I was in
a
cab
to
work.
Now
I'm
if'
a
in a cab to work. Now I'm in a protest
DY
accident.
Protest by accident. LAUGHTER.
APPLAUSE
LAUGHTER.
APPLAUSE.
I
g0':
Ell]
E-mail
after
that
going,
I got an e-mail after that, going, look,
Rob,
thank
'Nu
for
getting
I
look, Rob, thank you for getting - because
it
WES
if'
all
the
Papers.
Because it was in all the papers. You've
brought
eyes
to
the
cause
HOW
You've brought eyes to the cause now support
the
cause.
I
went
of
course
support the cause. I went of course I'm
happy
meet.
I
jUst
one
demand,
El
I'm happy meet. I just one demand, a private
jet
I'm happy meet. I just one demand, a private
jet
private jet. LAUGHTER
Waiting
to
hear
back
from
them.
Waiting to hear back from them. Haven't
heard
anything.
We're
going
Haven't heard anything. We're going to
take
a
break.
Don't
90
away,
more
to take a break. Don't go away, more from
rrlY
guests
and
joined
b)'
the
from my guests and joined by the fantastic
Judy
Love.
See
'Nu
if'
a
fantasticjudy Love. See you in a couple
of
minutes.
Welcome
back
to
the
show.
Welcome back to the show. joining
Welcome back to the show. joining us
HOW
and
rrlY
other
guests
joining us now and my other guests here
if
the
brilliant
comedian,
will
here is the brilliant comedian, will you
pleads
welcome
ha“
Love.
Here is the brilliant comedian, will you pleads welcomejudi
Love.
You pleads welcomejudi Love. APPLAUSE
you pleads welcomejudi Love.
Hello.
Hello!
Hello.
Hello!
CHEERING
Hello!
CHEERING.
I
should
explain,
the
FGGSOH
I
90':
I should explain, the reason I got UP
to
he“)
'Nu
down
there,
'Nu
have
up to help you down there, you have a
bad
foot
at
the
moment.
It's
not
a bad foot at the moment. It's not too
bad
HOW.
What
happened
I?
Too bad now. What happened is basically,
I'll
giVe
Vim
the
juice.
Basically, I'll give you the juice. I
went
out
with
the
girls,
right.
I
I went out with the girls, right. I wasn't
drunk
OI'
anything,
there
was
wasn't drunk or anything, there was a
heavy
chair
and
I
lifted
it.
I1:
a heavy chair and I lifted it. It basically
ripped
off
n“!
Toenail.
Basically ripped off my toenail. Yeah,
yeah.
And
if'
that
moment,
the
Yeah, yeah. And in that moment, the adrenaline,
everyone
was
nice.
I
adrenaline, everyone was nice. I pushed
i1:
right
back
in.
You
s8'!
Pushed it right back in. You say adrenaline
was
Prosecco
involved
3S
adrenaline was Prosecco involved as well?
Not
going
to
9E1:
into
the
tech
well? Not going to get into the tech anyicals.
There
was
a
warm
mistake.
Anyicals. There was a warm mistake. I
thought
have
I
kissed
myself
OI'
I?
I thought have I kissed myself or is it
bleeding?
I
looked
down,
Yes,
it bleeding? I looked down, yes, it's
both.
I've
kissed
myself
and
it's both. I've kissed myself and it's both. I've kissed myself and
it's bleeding.
That's
a
900d
night.
It's both. I've kissed myself and it's bleeding. That's a good
night.
It's bleeding. That's a good night. The
toenail
hanging
off
and
yeah.
The toenail hanging off and yeah. Sounds
like
something
from
Your
Sounds like something from your film.
Film. ls
Hallowe'en
big
if'
Your
house?
You
ls Hallowe'en big in your house? You know
I'm
Jamaican
right,
[10,
HO.
Know I'm Jamaican right, no, no, no. I
mean,
'Nu
mention
Hallowe'en.
I mean, you mention Hallowe'en. They'll
be
li ke,
III“
the
name
of
They'll be like, "In the name of Jesus
Jesus !" LAUGHTER
I
mean
n“!
Mum
vexed
that
was
I mean my mum vexed that was Hallowe'en,
OK.
No,
i1:
wasn't
a
big
Hallowe'en, OK. No, it wasn't a big thing
if'
the.
Thing in the. Family.
We
used
to
have
sweets
at
Family. We used to have sweets at the
home
if'
case
anyb0dY
knocked.
The home in case anybody knocked. I'd
be
looking
through
the
window,
I'd be looking through the window, just
wicker
I
was
li ke
Wendy
outside
just wicker I was like Wendy outside knocking
everybody.
But
I10.
Knocking everybody. But no. What
about
Your
kids.
You
have
a
13
What about your kids. You have a 13 and
17-year-old.
Yes,
I
have.
VB“!
And 17-year-old. Yes, I have. Very expensive
children.
Expensive children. Yeah.
Expensive children.
Yeah.
You've
just
come
back
from
You've just come back from Hollywood.
You
look
after
them,
'Nu
Hollywood. You look after them, you just
had
a
holiday.
Yeah
I
went
to
just had a holiday. Yeah I went to Ibiza
with
the
kids.
Sta rt
them
Ibiza with the kids. Start them young.
Oi,
oi,
“I
Ibiza with the kids. Start them young. Oi, oi,
oi.
Young. Oi, oi, oi. Yeah,
yeah.
I
took
n“!
Daughter
to
a
Yeah, yeah. I took my daughter to a little
beach
party.
P0o[
Party
But
little beach party, pool party. But you
9E1:
to
a
stage
where
before,
you get to a stage where before, people
90
I?
That
y0Ur
daughter.
People go is that your daughter. They're
li ke
oh,
n“!
90sh,
Vim
look
They're like oh, my gosh, you look too
yflung'
Now
I
saY
that's
n“!
Too young. Now I say that's my daughter
and
the'!
Sq
uh-huh.
Daughter and they go, uh-huh. You've
come
back
from
holiday,
You've come back from holiday, haven't
Y0u_
Where
did
'Nu
90?
Haven't you. Where did you go? DubaL
Nice.
So
you're
rested,
Dubai. Nice. So you're rested, relaxed,
ready
to
90?
Not
really.
Relaxed, ready to go? Not really. It's
not
really
El
holiday.
It's not really a holiday. With
kids
when
they're
little.
I've
With kids when they're little. I've been
if'
the
POOL
I
felt
like
El
been in the pool. I felt like a killer
whale,
like
Ell]
Oh,6,
jUst
killer whale, like an oh,a, just being
jumped
OH.
I
don't
know
WW
being jumped on. I don't know why they're
SO
snotty.
It's
constant
they're so snotty. It's constant snot.
Snot. In
the
POOL
it's
jUst
falling
out
In the pool, it's just falling out of
them.
It's
like
handfuls.
There's
of them. It's like handfuls. There's nothing
else
if'
their
head.
Nothing else in their head. I
thought
it
would
be
easier
when
I thought it would be easier when the
kids
can
swim
SO
you're
not,
'Nu
the kids can swim so you're not, you know
when
they're
really
little,
know when they're really little, round
the
PM“
you're
constantly
round the pool you're constantly behind
them.
Now
mine
can
swim
and
behind them. Now mine can swim and under
water.
TheY
S10
under
and
under water. They go under and they've
gone.
And
then
all
of
El
they've gone. And then all of a sudden,
they'll
POP
LIP
four
metres
sudden, they'll pop up four metres away.
Sudden, they'll pop up four metres
sudden, they'll pop up four metres away.
AWaY- Trying
to
get
over
to
them.
Away. Trying to get over to
them.
Trying to get over to them. It's
not
a
coincidence
we're
talking
It's not a coincidence we're talking about
raising
children,
'Nu
have
a
about raising children, you have a hugely
successful
podcast.
Rob
does
hugely successful podcast. Rob does a
podcast
with
J0sh
Widdicombe
a podcast with josh Widdicombe called
pa rent a lly
hell.
It's
been
a
called parentally hell. It's been a major
hit.
It
was
an
accident.
We
major hit. It was an accident. We just
started
it
if'
lock
down
because
just started it in lock down because it
WES
hard
work
and
moaning
about
it was hard work and moaning about the
kids
and
how
difficult
it
WES.
The kids and how difficult it was. Then
mm
came
OH.
Brilliant.
Then Judi came on. Brilliant. Talking
about
her
kids.
So
doing
Talking about her kids. So doing that.
People
liked
it.
We've
written
that. People liked it. We've written a
book
and
stuff
like
that.
It's
a book and stuff like that. It's great.
People,
it's
hard
isn't
it,
great. People, it's hard isn't it, being
El
parent.
If
'Nu
have
other
being a parent. If you have other people
moaning
about
it
and
people moaning about it and struggling,
it
does
help
The
book
struggling, it does help. The book has
90ne
to
number
one!
Sunday
Times
has gone to number one, Sunday Times best
seller
list.
Amazing
—
best seller list. Amazing . congratulations.
Congratulations. APPLAUSE
It's
v6"!
Funny
of
COUFSG.
There's
It's very funny of course. There's also
you're
v6"!
Honest
aren't
'Nu?
Also you're very honest, aren't you? Yeah
I
think
the
honesty
I?
Key.
Yeah I think the honesty is key. There's
El
lot
of
fake
stuff
on
There's a lot of fake stuff on Instagram
about
Instagram about #
blessed.
Down
the
Park
with
the
# blessed. Down the park with the kids,
'Nu
know
it's
hell.
Kids, you know it's hell. We're
really
honest.
Obviously
we
We're really honest. Obviously we speak
El
lot
about
kids
if'
the
speak a lot about kids in the podcast.
In
the
book,
there
are
the
podcast. In the book, there are the stories
from
before
the
podcast.
Stories from before the podcast. It's
all
the
stuff
that
'Nu
haven't
It's all the stuff that you haven't heard.
What's
the
worst
mistake
'Nu
heard. What's the worst mistake you made
3S
a
father,
apart
from
having
made as a father, apart from having children.
In
Your
parenting?
IVTY
wife
children. In your parenting? My wife always
brings
this
one
LIP'
She
WES
always brings this one up. She was in
lab our
with
OUT
second
child.
She
in lab our with our second child. She had
Ell]
Epidural.
There
WES
the
first
had an epidural. There was the first one
WES
really
stressful.
This
WES
El
one was really stressful. This was a bit
more
relaxed
because
she
had
the
bit more relaxed because she had the epidural
which
slowed
it
down
El
bit.
Epidural which slowed it down a bit. I
went
out
to
get
stuff
from.
I went out to get stuff from. The
shops.
I
didn't
realise
'Nu
The shops. I didn't realise you can't
eat
when
you've
had
El
can't eat when you've had a epidural.
So
I
bought
El
massive
epidural. So I bought a massive packed
lunch.
I
have
always
want
aid
packed lunch. I have always want aid ferera
rocher
tower.
Hear
me
out.
I
ferera rocher tower. Hear me out. I didn't
think
HEY
were
real.
I
get
didn't think they were real. I get in
the
garage,
they've
g0':
one.
L1:
in the garage, they've got one. It was
like
some
sort
of,
like,
divine
was like some sort of, like, divine intervention,
I
WES
like
two
gifts
intervention, I was like two gifts today
El
child
and
El
tower.
Intervention, I was like two gifts today a child and a
tower.
Today a child and a tower. LAUGHTER
So
I
bought
it
and
enough
to
stack
Sol bought it and enough to stack it,
which
I?
Quite
expensive.
I
had
it, which is quite expensive. I had two
bags,
one
full
of
chocolate
and
two bags, one full of chocolate and one
sandwiches.
I
called
LOU,
to
one sandwiches. I called Lou, to tell
her
the
NEWS.
Weirdly,
she's
tell her the news. Weirdly, she's not
bothered.
TheY
were
like
she
not bothered. They were like she can't
eat.
So
I
ended
LIP
if'
El
toilet
can't eat. So I ended up in a toilet on
rnY
OWTI
having
El
lunch
and
El
on my own having a lunch and a chocolate.
Best
dflY
GVGI'.
L1:
WES
El
chocolate. Best day ever. It was a better
dflY
for
me
than
Lou.
You
kn ow
better day for me than Lou. You know is
what
a
lot
of
the
early
days
when
is what a lot of the early days when you're
a
mother
OI'
father,
it
if
you're a mother or father, it is panic.
Everyone
panics
a
bit.
It's
a
panic. Everyone panics a bit. It's a sudden
responsibility.
Did
it
take
sudden responsibility. Did it take you
a
while
to
settle
in?
The
you a while to settle in? The weirdest
moment
I?
When
Vim
are
weirdest moment is when you are finally
0|'!
Y0Ur
OW“
with
y0Ur
kid.
Finally on your own with your kid. Ancl
li ke
Vim
know
that
little
human
Ancl like you know that little human being
I?
Ii ke
solely
relying
0|'!
Vim
being is like solely relying on you to
gee?
Them
alive.
And
I
think
to keep them alive. And I think thattuals
the
scariest
thing
I
thattuals the scariest thing I remember.
Remember. Shutting
the
door,
putting
him
if'
Shutting the door, putting him in the
car
seat
what
the
hell
are
we
the car seat, what the hell are we doing
HOW.
You
can't
befieve
they
doing now. You can't believe they let
'Nu
90
home
with
them.
TheY
583/
let you go home with them. They say do
'Nu
want
to
PUt
on
the
babY
Qfo?
Do you want to put on the baby gm? I'm
like,
HO.
I'm like, no. Surely,
'Nu
know
this,
you're
better
Surely, you know this, you're better than
this
I
don't
know
what
I'm
than this I don't know what I'm doing.
Basically
Pipe
cleaner
arm
doing. Basically pipe cleaner arm through
this.
What
am
I
doing!
Through this. What am I doing! I
think
the
hardest
thing
I?
I think the hardest thing is especially
when
you're
if'
lab our,
especially when you're in lab our, you
90
through
all
that
pain
EIS
a
you go through all that pain as a woman.
You
giVe
birth
and
after
all
woman. You give birth and after all that,
the
bah'!
looks
li ke
the
clad,
that, the baby looks like the clad, yeah.
That, the baby looks like the clad,
that, the baby looks like the clad, yeah.
Yeah. In
that
moment,
Vim
notice
things
In that moment, you notice things like
I
didn't
ream]
Ii ke
his
hair
like I didn't really like his hair line,
Vim
know
what
I
mean?
What's
line, you know what I mean? What's worse
for
some
of
US
I?
That
when
worse for some of us is that when you
Push
out
the
bah'!
And
i1:
looks
you push out the baby and it looks like
the
real
clad.
like the real clad. Last.
APPLAUSE
Last.
APPLAUSE.
Tom,
you're
at
the
v6"!
To Pr
you've
Tom, you're at the very top, you've enjoyed
the
pinnacle
of
Your
enjoyed the pinnacle of your success,
Olympic
gold
at
the
2020
success, Olympic gold at the 2020 Olympics.
Amazing.
Olympics.
Amazing.
How
did
that
feel
when
'Nu
finally
How did that feel when you finally got
that
gold?
I've
been
doing
i1:
got that gold? I've been doing it for
21
yea rs
|1OWI
diving,
and
i1:
for 21 years now, diving, and it took
four
attempts
at
the
Olympics
took four attempts at the Olympics to
do
it.
The
thing
iS,
there's
SO
to do it. The thing is, there's so much
QTESSUTE
if'
that
one
moment,
much pressure in that one moment, because
Vim
train
for
four
yea rs
OI'
because you train for four years or five,
because
of
COV“) ,
i1:
was
five, because of COVID, it was delayed.
Six
dives
if'
that
delayed. Six dives in that competition.
After
all
of
those
competition. After all of those years
of
training
i1:
comes
down
to
years of training it comes down to just
six
dives,
one
of
each
of
the
just six dives, one of each of the dives
Vim
do.
If
Vim
mess
UP
an'!
One
dives you do. If you mess up any one of
them,
it's
over.
You
have
to
wait
of them, it's over. You have to wait another
four
years.
Just
such
an
another four years. just such an amazing
moment
when
'Nu
knew
'Nu
had
amazing moment when you knew you had it?
It's
unlike
anything
Vim
can
it? It's unlike anything you can express
if'
that
way.
It's
li ke
I
express in that way. It's like - I know
that
I
was
capable
of
doing
i1:
know that I was capable of doing it with
Matty,
but
i1:
was
that
moment
with Matty, but it was that moment of,
I
almost
was
getting
ready
to
of, I almost was getting ready to accept
that
I
was
HGVGI'
eve I'
going
accept that I was never ever going to
be
an
Olympic
champion
and
having
to be an Olympic champion and having to be an Olympic champion and having
to learn
to
live
with
that
the
fact
to learn to live with that the fact that
I'd
worked
n“!
Whole
life
and
that I'd worked my whole life and never
quite
90':
there.
So
that
never quite got there. So that feeling
of
when
i1:
happened,
i1:
was
feeling of when it happened, it was just
such
elation,
but
at
the
same
just such elation, but at the same time,
i1:
was
SO
weird,
because
time, it was so weird, because no-one
was
there.
Time, it was so weird, because no-one was
there.
No-one was there. Because.
Of
COV“).
So
n“!
Family
wasn't
there.
Of COVID. So my family wasn't there. The
stands
WE FE
em pty,
other
than
The stands were empty, other than some
of
the
athletes.
I1:
was
a
v6 FY
some of the athletes. It was a very surreal
experience
to
90
and
dive,
surreal experience to go and dive, almost
if'
silence,
really.
Did
that
almost in silence, really. Did that help
if'
an'!
W8Y|
though?
I
think,
help in any way, though? I think, for
examyfle,
i1:
was
Matty's
first
for example, it was Matty's first ever
Olympics
and
he
9085
and
wins
ever Olympics and he goes and wins in
his
first
competition.
I
was
li ke
in his first competition. I was like
that's
SO
annoying-
Yeah
i1:
was
that's so annoying. Yeah it was bloody
annoying!
That's so annoying. Yeah it was bloody
annoying!
Bloody annoying! I
was
like,
Matty!
He
was
like,
I was like, Matty! He was like, what,
that's
what
Vim
do,
isn't
it.
What, that's what you do, isn't it. One
of
the
things
that
'Nu
90':
One of the things that you got famous
for
out
there
wasn't
just
famous for out there wasn't just your
diving.
It
was
Your
knitting.
Your diving. It was your knitting. So
you're
sitting
there
before
the
So you're sitting there before the biggest
moment
of
Your
life,
the
biggest moment of your life, the culmination
of
training
and
culmination of training and sacrifice
and
'Nu
just
knit.
Love
sacrifice and you just knit. Love it.
Knitting
for
me.
I
bloody
love
it. Knitting for me, I bloody love knitting.
But
I
just
it's
n“!
WHY
of
knitting. But I just, it's my way of getting
out
of
n“!
Head.
Duflng
the
getting out of my head. During the Olympics,
Vim
weren't
allowed
to
Olympics, you weren't allowed to socialise,
90
outside
the
village,
socialise, go outside the village, you
couldn't
do
anything
other
than
you couldn't do anything other than be
if'
y0Ur
TOOK“
doing
nothing.
There
be in your room doing nothing. There was
SO
much
time
to
over think
and
was so much time to over think and worry
about
things.
So
I
just
knit.
Worry about things. So I just knit. I
have
been
doing
i1:
everywhere,
0|'!
I have been doing it everywhere, on the
bus,
0|'!
The
plane,
poolside,
the bus, on the plane, poolside, stands.
Is
it
li ke
a-
stands. Is it like a. Mindfulness
thing
for
'Nu?
Yeah
I
Mindfulness thing for you? Yeah I was
able
to
be
if'
n“!
OW“
world.
You
was able to be in my own world. You weren't
knitting
for
long
before?
Weren't knitting for long before? March
20
I
started.
I
think
i1:
was
March 20 I started. I think it was three
weeks
before
lock
down,
there
three weeks before lock down, there was
a
lot
more
time
to
be
able
to
was a lot more time to be able to learn
HEW
things.
Did
someone
knit
learn new things. Did someone knit in
y0Ur
family,
did
someone
teach?
In your family, did someone teach? No
just
learned
through
YouTube
No just learned through YouTube tutors.
Each
thing
I
made,
I
learned
tutors. Each thing I made, I learned a
HEW
stitch
OI'
whatever
i1:
ma'!
Be.
A new stitch or whatever it may be. Started
the
design.
The
idea
of
the
Started the design. The idea of the book
came
up.
Now
just
if'
time
for
book came up. Now just in time for Christmas,
it's
a
lovely
gift
book came up. Now just in time for Christmas, it's a lovely
gift
Christmas, it's a lovely gift. If
Vim
know
an'!
Knitters.
We ll
it's
If you know any knitters. Well it's kind
of
a
beginners
guide,
and
kind of a beginners guide, and they're
not
recipes.
What
6P6
they
they're not recipes. What are they called?
Patterns.
They're not recipes. What are they called?
Patterns.
Called? Patterns. LAUGHTER
Have
'Nu
GVGI'
knitted?
I've
tried.
Have you ever knitted? I've tried. Any
crafting
at
6 ll?
I
do
Any crafting at all? I do cross-stitch.
It's
basically
li ke
cross-stitch. It's basically like paint
DY
numbers.
It's
kind
of
li ke
paint by numbers. It's kind of like a
colouring
book.
That's
also
li ke
a
a colouring book. That's also like a mindful
thing.
It's
nice,
but
mindful thing. It's nice, but usually
I
just
do
i1:
when
I'm
usually I just do it when I'm watching
hours
of.
Watching hours of. Television,
that's
90ne
0|'!
Too
long!
Television, that's gone on too long, if
it's
li ke
six
hours
if'
front
of
if it's like six hours in front of the
TV.
If
I'm
at
least
the TV. If I'm at least cross-stitching,
I
feel
li ke
I've
cross-stitching, I feel like I've done
something.
When
'Nu
finish
this
clone something. When you finish this sort
of
thing,
do
'Nu
keBP
them,
sort of thing, do you keep them, give
them
3S
Sifts?
I
do
give
them
give them as gifts? I do give them as
gifts,
Yes _
I've
given
a
couple
as gifts, yes. I've given a couple as gifts, yes. I've given a couple
as gifts,
especially
at
the
end
of
as gifts, especially at the end of jobs.
I
made
0H6
for
a
friend
of
jobs. I made one for a friend of mine
Rasmus,
which
was
li ke
rea lly
mine Rasmus, which was like really pretty.
It
had
flowers
all
OVGI'
it.
Pretty. It had flowers all over it. But
if'
the
middle,
it
says
"See
'Nu
But in the middle, it says "See you next
Tuesday."
He
loved
it.
Had
he
next Tuesday." He loved it. Had he put
if'
the
request
for
that?
I1:
just
put in the request for that? it just made
SENSE.
Made sense. LAUGHTER
He
loved
it.
It
was
fine.
Before
WE
He loved it. It was fine. Before we move
on,
I
have
to
ta lk
about
move on, I have to talk about amateur
divers
a
bit.
You
W6 ['6
amateur divers a bit. You were involved
if'
the
TV
show
Splash,
if'
involved in the TV show Splash, in which
celebrities
would
attempt
to
which celebrities would attempt to dive.
That's
a
tough
challenge.
Of
dive. That's a tough challenge. Of all
the
reality
shows,
diving
if
all the reality shows, diving is hard,
to
do
it
Properly.
Yeah
i1:
hard, to do it properly. Yeah it takes
a
long
time.
And
it's
just
the
takes a long time. And it's just the awareness
of
y0Ur
boil'!
And
what
i1:
awareness of your body and what it can
do
and
can't
do,
when
you're
can do and can't do, when you're flying
through
the
air.
Can
'Nu
flying through the air. Can you dive?
I
mean
I
can
fa ll
from
El
dive? I mean I can fall from a height,
'leg
height, yes. The
FGGSOH
WW
I
was
asking
that
if'
The reason why I was asking that in particular,
if'
Splash,
HOW
leader
of
particular, in Splash, now leader of the
House
of
Commons,
penny
Mordant.
The House of Commons, penny Mordant. I
thought
'Nu
might
li ke
to
eflJl°y
I thought you might like to enjoy this,
she's
0H6
of
the
People
this, she's one of the people running
the
country
right
HOW.
Have
running the country right now. Have a
look
at
this.
APPLAUSE
APPLAUSE.
I1:
It created
far
too
much
rotation.
It created far too much rotation. Quite
It created far too much rotation. Quite amazing.
Before
'Nu
s8'!
That,
Yeah
_—_
Quite amazing. Before you say that, yeah
_—_
Before you say that, yeah APPLAUSE
You're
clapping,
but
that's
exactly
You're clapping, but that's exactly what
just
happened
to.
What just happened to. The
economy.
The economy. She
looked
li ke
a
pancake.
The economy. She looked like a
pancake.
She looked like a pancake. Would
that
have
hurt?
That
would
Would that have hurt? That would have
winded
her.
I
think
she
had
have winded her. I think she had bruises
0|'!
Her
legs.
I
think
i1:
was
bruises on her legs. I think it was quite
a
painful
thing.
I
feel
li ke
quite a painful thing. I feel like we
should
do
a
little
political
we should do a little political Splash
special
and
9E1:
them
UP
there
Splash special and get them up there and
see
what
the'!
Can
do.
Kick
them
and see what they can do. Kick them off.
Off. We're
going
to
take
a
break.
Don't
We're going to take a break. Don't go
away,
we're
about
to
be
joined
b)'
go away, we're about to be joined by the
amazing
Benjamin
Zephaniah,
who
the amazing Benjamin Zephaniah, who is
going
to
teach
US
some
martial
is going to teach us some martial arts.
See
'Nu
after
the
break.
Welcome
back
to
the
show.
And
I'm
Welcome back to the show. And I'm very
Welcome back to the show. And I'm very excited
because
joining
US
HOW
very excited because joining us now we
have
a
legendary
We';
and
writer,
we have a legendary poet and writer, just
a
brilliant
man.
Will
'Nu
just a brilliant man. Will you please
welcome
Mr
Benjamin
please welcome Mr Benjamin Zephaniah!.
Please welcome Mr Benjamin
please welcome Mr Benjamin Zephaniah!.
CHEERING
8t.
APPLAUSE.
NW
My sister.
NW
brother.
Thank
Vim
for
My sister. My brother. Thank you for joining
My sister. My brother. Thank you for joining us.
Come
and
sit
down.
Great
joining us. Come and sit down. Great to
S66
Y0u_
You
look
swish.
I
look
to see you. You look swish. I look swish.
I'm
Jamaican.
To see you. You look swish. I look swish. I'm
Jamaican.
Swish. I'm Jamaican. I'm
swish.
Incredible
career
you've
I'm swish. Incredible career you've had.
I
mean
because
the
poetry,
of
had. I mean because the poetry, of course,
has
been
going
on,
let
me
I
course, has been going on, let me - I've
been
speaking
to
everyone
else
I've been speaking to everyone else about
Hallowe'en.
Do
'Nu
celebrate?
About Hallowe'en. Do you celebrate? Jamaican,
HO.
You
mention
Hallowe'en
Jamaican, no. You mention Hallowe'en and
it
if
the
devil.
Am
I
right
if'
and it is the devil. Am I right in thinking
that
'Nu
had
a
supernatural
thinking that you had a supernatural experience
once?
Yes.
I
had
a
V6 FY,
experience once? Yes. I had a very, very
weird
experience.
Very weird experience. Interestingly,
a
lot
of
these
Interestingly, a lot of these experiences
happen
if'
the
night,
experiences happen in the night, when
the
shadows
and
stuff
li ke
when the shadows and stuff like that.
But
this
happened
if'
broad
that. But this happened in broad daylight.
Me
and
five
other
Pe0ple
daylight. Me and five other people were
if'
a
house,
if'
Birmingham.
We
were in a house, in Birmingham. We were in a house, in Birmingham. We
were waiting
for
a
cousin
were in a house, in Birmingham. We were waiting for a
cousin.
Were waiting for a cousin. To
come
home.
She
wa lked
if'
the
To come home. She walked in the front
door,
through
the
front
room,
front door, through the front room, and
out
the
back
door.
And
we
went
and out the back door. And we went to
her
and
she
wasn't
there.
We
all
to her and she wasn't there. We all saw
her.
Later
0|'!
That
day,
we
found
saw her. Later on that clay, we found out
that
she'd
been
hit
DY
a
Ca r!
Out that she'd been hit by a car, died
for
about
five
minutes
OI'
died for about five minutes or whatever
i1:
I?
Vim
die
and
come
back
whatever it is you die and come back to
life.
I1:
wasn't
just
me.
Ii ke
I
to life. It wasn't just me, like I said
there
WE FE
five
of
US
that
said there were five of us that witnessed
it.
In
those
five
minutes,
witnessed it. In those five minutes, instead
of
exploring
the
afterlife,
instead of exploring the afterlife, she
went
back
to
her
house
if'
she went back to her house in Birmingham
and
had
a
wa lk
round.
I'm
Birmingham and had a walk round. I'm not
one
of
those
that
befieve
if'
not one of those that believe in that
stuff.
I'm
into
science,
Vim
that stuff. I'm into science, you know?
But
I
also
understand
that
know? But I also understand that there's
stuff
we
can't
prove.
I
there's stuff we can't prove. I normally
dismiss
all
that
kind
of
normally dismiss all that kind of thing.
That
sounds
genuinely
thing. That sounds genuinely convincing,
and
the
fact
that
I
kn ow
convincing, and the fact that I know you
6P6
a
sober
gentleman.
You
W6 ['6
you are a sober gentleman. You were sober
at
the
time?
I
don't
drink,
I
sober at the time? I don't drink, I don't
smoke.
Once
OI'
twice
a
Year
I
don't smoke. Once or twice a year I have
SEX
and
that's
it.
Have sex and that's it. Me
too
mate.
Have sex and that's it. Me too
mate.
Me too mate. Me too mate.
Me too.
Me too mate. Me
too.
Me too. LAUGHTER
Didn't
ask
the
about
the
last
thing,
Didn't ask the about the last thing, but
thanks
for.
But thanks for. That.
I
didn't
58%
have
'Nu
not
had
That. I didn't say, have you not had sex
for
a
while,
if
that
WW
'Nu
had
sex for a while, is that why you had a
ghost?
You
don't
S66
ghosts
a ghost? You don't see ghosts because
you're
horny.
Because you're horny. LAUGHTER
Anyone
else
had
experiences
li ke
Anyone else had experiences like that,
Rob?
Having
SEX
twice
El
Year?
That, Rob? Having sex twice a year? No!
That, Rob? Having sex twice a year?
No!
I
call
that
BS
El
900d
year.
Let's
I call that as a good year. Let's talk
about
Your
writing.
When
did
talk about your writing. When did you
start'?
It's
not
a
career
that
you start? It's not a career that you start? It's not a career that
you imagine
for
you rself,
I
imagine?
You imagine for yourself, I imagine? When
I
was
about
eight
yea rs
old,
I
When I was about eight years old, I had
a
vision.
I1:
was
li ke
I'm
going
had a vision. It was like I'm going to
do
poetry
and
I'm
going
to
Put
to do poetry and I'm going to put poetry
into
music
and
Put
i1:
into
poetry into music and put it into theatre
and
it's
going
to
be
theatre and it's going to be political.
It's
going
to
be
funny.
Political. It's going to be funny. Ancl
one
daY
I'm
going
to
be
0|'!
The
Ancl one clay I'm going to be on The Jonathan
Ross
Show.
And
I
had
that
Jonathan Ross Show. And I had that vision
if'
n“!
Head.
I
was
performing
vision in my head. I was performing poetry
if'
the
school
Playground
and
poetry in the school playground and community
centres,
police
stations
community centres, police stations
LAUGHTER
_—_
LAUGHTER.
Anything
LAUGHTER. Anything to
9E1:
out.
LAUGHTER. Anything to get
out.
Anything to get out. ls
does
it
work?
Can.
Is does it work? Can. You
Set
out
of
police
stations
b)'
You get out of police stations by spitting
some
bars?
I'm
a
Net'
we
spitting some bars? I'm a poet, we don't
ca ll
them
bars.
OK,
what
do
don't call them bars. OK, what do you
ca ll
it?
Stanzas.
You call it? Stanzas. When
'Nu
USE
the
stanza,
does
it
Set
When you use the stanza, does it get you
out
of
trouble?
No.
You out of trouble? No. LAUGHTER
It
wasn't
until
I
was
21,
22,
that
I
It wasn't until I was 21, 22, that I started
writing
n“!
poetry
down.
You
started writing my poetry down. You won
a
BAFTA
recently,
best
won a BAFTA recently, best entertainment
program me
and
entertainment program me and congratulations
for
Life
of
Rhymes.
Entertainment program me and congratulations for Life of
Rhymes.
Congratulations for Life of Rhymes. APPLAUSE
Yeah,
what
a
lovely
thing
to
S66
Yeah, what a lovely thing to see poetry
centre
stage
and
be
awarded
poetry centre stage and be awarded like
that.
That
must
have
been
a
like that. That must have been a delightful
moment.
When
did
'Nu
find
delightful moment. When did you find out
'Nu
had
WOT]
It?
I
was
if'
a
out you had won it? I was in a garden
centre.
Out you had won it? I was in a garden
centre.
Garden centre. We
WE FE
doing
the
transaction
and
We were doing the transaction and the
mil'!
From
the
production
company
the lady from the production company rang
me
and
said,
hello,
I
said
I'm
rang me and said, hello, I said I'm really
busy.
She
said,
hello
really busy. She said, hello Benjamin.
I
said
can
Vim
ca ll
me.
Benjamin. I said can you call me. Back?
She
said,
"NO"
—
She
went,
Back? She said, "No". She went, "You've
WOT]
The
BAFTA."
I
went,
"You've won the BAFTA." I went, "I've
WOT]
The
BAFTA
'In
And
everybody
"I've won the BAFTA !" And everybody in
the
5h0P
went,
he's
WOT]
The
in the shop went, he's won the BAFTA!
Th6Y
WE FE
clapping-
And
then
BAFTA! They were clapping. And then she
went
_—_
"Don't
tell
anybody."
BAFTA! They were clapping. And then she went "Don't tell
anybody."
She went "Don't tell anybody." LAUGHTER
I
said,
"OK
There
W6 ['6
all
these
I said, "OK !" There were all these people
if'
Spalding
if'
Lincolnshire
people in Spalding in Lincolnshire who
had
to
keBP
the
secret
for
a
who had to keep the secret for a week
OI'
SO.
But
it
was
great
because
week or so. But it was great because poetry
for
the
most
Part
has
been
poetry for the most part has been seen
3S
underground.
It's
the
first
seen as underground. It's the first time
I
90':
to
giVe
credit
i1:
SKY
time I got to give credit it Sky they
took
a
risk
of
putting
0|'!
The
they took a risk of putting on the show,
which
was
Pure
spoken
word
show, which was pure spoken word poetry
and
not
just
a
one-off
show
—
poetry and not just a one-off show. It
was
a
series.
When
we
W0",
we
It was a series. When we won, we beat
the
Masked
Singer.
You've
heard
beat the Masked Singer. You've heard of
that
program me.
Beat the Masked Singer. You've heard of that
program me.
Of that program me. LAUGHTER
And
Ant
and
Dec
and
Strictly
Come
Ancl Ant and Dec and Strictly Come Dancing,
and
we
WE FE
if'
the
Dancing, and we were in the entertainment
section.
That's
entertainment section. That's amazing.
When
think
of
Strictly,
amazing. When think of Strictly, they're
juggernauts.
For
People
to
they're juggernauts. For people to recognise
that
it
was
an
important
recognise that it was an important piece
of
work,
but
it
was
piece of work, but it was entertainment
3S
well.
Otherwise
entertainment as well. Otherwise poetry
if
often
SGGH
3S
being
high
poetry is often seen as being high brow.
But
this
Poetry,
brow. But this poetry. Really
connected
with
real
life
and
Really connected with real life and what
was
going
OH.
I
remember
mar“!
What was going on. I remember many years
ago,
somebody
asked
me
to
Put
years ago, somebody asked me to put a
tight
toll
n“!
Show.
And
i1:
used
to
a tight toll my show. And it used to be
Benjamin
Zephaniah
just
showing.
Be Benjamin Zephaniah just showing. I
came
UP
with
laugh,
cf'!
And
9E1:
I came up with laugh, cry and get angry
with
Benjamin
Zephaniah.
All
angry with Benjamin Zephaniah. All those
things
would
happen.
People
those things would happen. People would
laugh
their
heads
off.
They'd
would laugh their heads off. They'd be
crying.
And
then
angry,
I'm
going
be crying. And then angry, I'm going to
0|'!
That
demonstration
next
week
to on that demonstration next week about
oil.
About oil. LAUGHTER
While
we're
talking
about
BAFTAS.
We
While we're talking about BAFTAs. We should
congratulate
Georgina,
'Nu
should congratulate Georgina, you won
a
BAFTA
when
'Nu
W6 ['6
just
22.
Won a BAFTA when you were just 22. Murdered
b)'
MY
Boyfriend.
Won a BAFTA when you were just 22. Murdered by My
Boyfriend.
Murdered by My Boyfriend. APPLAUSE
Murdered by My Boyfriend.
APPLAUSE.
ls
that
difficult,
winning
it
that
Is that difficult, winning it that early,
does
it
make
it
hard
to
ca rry
early, does it make it hard to carry on
getting
work
after
that?
Yeah,
I
on getting work after that? Yeah, I didn't
ream]
Know
what
i1:
meant.
I1:
didn't really know what it meant. It was
hard
for
like,
I
think
I
also
was hard for like, I think I also read
that
when
Olivia
Coleman
90':
read that when Olivia Coleman got her
first
BAFTA,
she
didn't
work
for
her first BAFTA, she didn't work for about
a
Yfiap
I
had
a
similar.
About a year. I had a similar. Thing,
where
i1:
almost
became
a
Thing, where it almost became a curse.
I
was
just
starting
n“!
Career
curse. I was just starting my career and
Pe0ple
WE FE
like,
oh,
well
she
and people were like, oh, well she has
a
BAFTA
HOW.
She's
not
going
to
has a BAFTA now. She's not going to want
to
do
this
role.
They
don't
want to do this role. They don't offer
'Nu
roles
then?
I
didn't
have
offer you roles then? I didn't have a
big
enough
name
to
be
offered
the
a big enough name to be offered the big
roles.
The
smaller
stuff,
the'!
Big roles. The smaller stuff, they were
li ke
we
can't
afford
her,
she's
were like we can't afford her, she's got
a
BAFTA.
I
managed
to
be
like,
got a BAFTA. I managed to be like, you
can
afford
me.
You can afford me. LAUGHTER
And
9E1:
roles
coming
through.
Going
Ancl get roles coming through. Going back
to
may.
Talking
about
BAFTA,
a
back tojudi. Talking about BAFTA, a show
'Nu
made
recently,
if
it
show you made recently, if it doesn't
win
a
BAFTA,
I'll
be
amazed,
doesn't win a BAFTA, I'll be amazed, black,
female
and
invisible,
black, female and invisible, available
on
all
4-
I1:
looks
at
the
available on all 4. It looks at the odds
stacked
against
black
women!
If'
odds stacked against black women in the
UK.
The
great
thing
about
this,
the UK. The great thing about this, it
states
facts.
We're
talking
about
it states facts. We're talking about that
black
girls
are
most
highly
that black girls are most highly likely
to
be
excluded
from
schools.
likely to be excluded from schools. Black
women!
Are
the
most
likely
to
Black women are the most likely to get
when
i1:
comes
to
crime.
Four
OI'
get when it comes to crime. Four or five
times
more
likely
to
die
if'
five times more likely to die in child
birth.
When
Vim
loo
being
at
child birth. When you loo being at those
things,
sometimes
Vim
ta lk
those things, sometimes you talk about
it,
ii
when
Vim
look
at
those
about it, -- when you look at those things,
sometimes
Vim
ta lk
about
it,
things, sometimes you talk about it, without
fact,
Pe0ple
SaY,
are
Vim
without fact, people say, are you sure?
When.
Sure? When. Facts
are
stated
and
it's
been
Facts are stated and it's been studied
and
analysed,
it's
there
for
studied and analysed, it's there for everyone
to
see.
This
show
showed
everyone to see. This show showed that
and
also
celebrated
the
amazing
that and also celebrated the amazing black
women!
Who
WE FE
doing
SO
much
black women who were doing so much to
Push
Past
the
odds
that
are
to push past the odds that are against
them.
You're
an
intelligent
against them. You're an intelligent woman,
obviously.
You
can't
do
the
woman, obviously. You can't do the comedy
'Nu
do
without
being
smart.
Comedy you do without being smart. We
think
of
'Nu
primarily
3S
being
a
We think of you primarily as being a comedian.
To
S66
'Nu
do
something
comedian. To see you do something this
serious,
was
that
a
nice
thing.
This serious, was that a nice thing. Do
'Nu
Plan
on
doing
more
of
these?
Do you plan on doing more of these? Was
it
liberating?
I1:
was
ream]
Was it liberating? It was really nice.
NW
background
was
if'
social
nice. My background was in social work
and
social
care.
I've
90':
that
work and social care. I've got that natural
Vim
know,
ability
to
have
natural, you know, ability to have empathy
with
Pe0ple
and
have
a
empathy with people and have a conversation
where
I
can
draw
conversation where I can draw information
out.
I1:
was
900d
to
USE
information out. It was good to use that
skill
set
and
know
when
things
that skill set and know when things was
ream]
Tense,
to
bring
if'
that
was really tense, to bring in that little
bit
of
humour
OI'
comfort.
little bit of humour or comfort. Some
Pe0ple
9E1:
ream]
Tense
when
Some people get really tense when you
ta lk
about
racism
OI'
Vim
ta lk
you talk about racism or you talk about
being
black
and
i1:
shouldn't
about being black and it shouldn't be
li ke
that.
Everybody
should
be
be like that. Everybody should be able
to
have
the
space
to
ta lk
about
able to have the space to talk about how
the'!
Identify.
This
I?
How
we
how they identify. This is how we identify.
This
I?
What
we've
identify. This is what we've experienced.
I
90':
to
gee?
I1:
real,
experienced. I got to keep it real, white
allies
I?
Something
that
we
white allies is something that we need.
Sometimes
if
I
ta lk
UPI
I
can
need. Sometimes if I talk up, I can be
perceived
EIS
aggressive,
more
be perceived as aggressive, more than
if
Vim
ta lk
up.
It's
about.
Than if you talk up. It's about. Coming
together
—
there's
a
lot
of
Coming together. there's a lot of things
that
{FY
to
divide
US.
But
i1:
things that try to divide us. But it really
I?
About
coming
together.
Really is about coming together. That's
such
a
lovely
thing
to
hear.
That's such a lovely thing to hear. APPLAUSE
That's such a lovely thing to hear.
APPLAUSE.
Absomteb]
What
if
needed.
Can
I
Absolutely what is needed. Can I just
SaY,
Yeah,
I
did
draw
from
just say, yeah, I did draw from Louis
Theroux,
because
he's
n“!
Louis Theroux, because he's my secret
crush.
I'm
saying
i1:
here.
Louis Theroux, because he's my secret crush. I'm saying it
here.
Secret crush. I'm saying it here. I
mean
_—_
yeah.
Secret crush. I'm saying it here. I mean
yeah.
I mean yeah. All
those
texts
'Nu
sent
W6 ['6
lies!
All those texts you sent were lies! No,
babe,
you're
more
li ke
the
No, babe, you're more like the daddy.
Daddy. LAUGHTER
Weren't
'Nu
a
We';
once?
I
don't
Weren't you a poet once? I don't know
if
I
was
a
poet.
But
there
was
know if I was a poet. But there was a
moment,
there
EIS
a
moment
where
I
a moment, there as a moment where I felt
li ke
I
wanted
to
delve
into
the
felt like I wanted to delve into the spoken
word,
kind
of
life.
I
don't
spoken word, kind of life. I don't know
how
you're
on“!
Having
SEX
know how you're only having sex twice
a
Yfiap
Because
poets
the'!
9E1:
twice a year. Because poets they get the
sugar.
The sugar. Because
they've
901:.
Because they've got. That
WHY
with
their
tongue
_—_
Because they've got. That way with their tongue
_—_
That way with their tongue LAUGHTER
You
kn ow
what
I
mean.
LAUGHTER You know what I
mean.
You know what I mean. They
90
into
that
moment
and
they're
They go into that moment and they're like
_—_
I
569;
S66
I
_—_
They go into that moment and they're like I see, see I
_—_
like I see, see I lie.
like I see, see I
lie.
You
lie.
I
lie.
Why?
lie. You lie. I lie.
Why?
You lie. I lie. Why? LAUGHTER
Everyone
9065
_—_
LAUGHTER Everyone goes
_—_
Everyone goes you
kn ow,
it
was
a
van,
I
used
to
you know, it was a part, I used to call
myself
sugar
love.
I
used
to
be
call myself sugar love. I used to be a
69.
You
can
S66
it
didn't
work.
A tig. You can see it didn't work. So,
I
went
to
comedy.
But
I
do
So, I went to comedy. But I do appreciate
poets,
'Nu
kn ow
Maya
An
appreciate poets, you know Maya An Georgina
lo u,
People
that
I
listen
Georgina lou, people that I listen to.
You
can
connect
to
it
on
an
to. You can connect to it on an emotional
level.
Emotional level. That's
WW
spoken
word
if
SO
That's why spoken word is so important.
People
can
share
things.
Important. People can share things. If
I'm
if'
Jamaica
OI'
India,
and
I
If I'm in Jamaica or India, and I say
to
somebody,
I'm
a
poet.
Th6Y
say to somebody, I'm a poet. They don't
Sq
oh,
darling,
what
are
Vim
don't go, oh, darling, what are you publicly?
Th6Y
Sq
do
One!
Show
me.
Publicly? They go, do one, show me. Do
0H6.
Publicly? They go, do one, show me. Do
0H6.
Do one. APPLAUSE.
I
wasn't
expecting
that.
I wasn't expecting that. OK,
here's
a
short
one.
I wasn't expecting that. OK, here's a short
one.
OK, here's a short one. Open
UP
y0Ur
mind,
make
some
rhythm
Open up your mind, make some rhythm come
in.
Open
UP
y0Ur
brain
bring
if'
come in. Open up your brain bring in reason
in.
Open
UP
for
knowledge
and
reason in. Open up for knowledge and intellect.
Open
UP
the
speaker
make
intellect. Open up the speaker make me
blast
its
OW“.
Open
UP
the
s|<Y
me blast its own. Open up the sky and
make
the
rain
come
down.
If
Vim
and make the rain come down. If you want
to
over stand
this,
open
wide.
Want to over stand this, open wide. Open
UP
y0Ur
host
let
the
refugee
Open up your host, let the refugee come
in.
Open
y0Ur
imagination,
90
come in. Open your imagination, go for
a
ride.
If
Vim
want
to
for a ride. If you want to understand
this
open
UP
wide.
Open
understand this open up wide. Open UP
y0Ur
fists
and
9E1:
a
kiss.
Open
up your fists and get a kiss. Open up your fists and get a kiss. Open
up your
bank
account
and
spend,
open
up your bank account and spend, open up your bank account and spend, open
up your
wake':
and
check
a
friend.
Up your wallet and check a friend. Open
UP
the
dark
floor
and
make
a
Open up the dark floor and make a dance.
Open
UP
y0Ur
boil'!
And
love
dance. Open up your body and love romance.
If
Vim
have
not
opened
UPI
romance. If you have not opened up, you
have
not
tried.
If
Vim
want
to
you have not tried. If you want to over stand
this,
open
wide.
Open
UP
over stand this, open wide. Open up the
border,
free
UP
the
lands.
Over stand this, open wide. Open up the border, free up the
lands.
The border, free up the lands. Open
UP
to
the
possibility,
open
UP
Open up to the possibility, open up your
heart
and
mentality.
Open
UP
your heart and mentality. Open up the
door
Vim
confront.
Narrow
the door you confront. Narrow mindedness
must.
Mindedness must. Run
and
hide.
Mindedness must. Run and
hide.
Run and hide. If
Vim
want
to
over stand
this
open
If you want to over stand this open wide.
Wide. CHEERING
wide.
Wide. CHEERING.
Oh,
n“!
God.
Oh, my God. Don't
Oh, my God. Don't go
away,
more
from
rrlY
guests
Don't go away, more from my guests and
Dermot
Kennedy
will
be
and Dermot Kennedy will be performing
if'
the
studio
at
the
end
performing in the studio at the end of
the
show.
See
'Nu
if'
a
couple
of
of the show. See you in a couple of minutes.
APPLAUSE
APPLAUSE.
Welcome
back
to
the
show.
I'm
Welcome back to the show. I'm thrilled
to
s8'!
RrlY
wonderful
guests
thrilled to say my wonderful guests are.
Are. All
still
here.
We've
been
talking
All still here. We've been talking about
Your
poetry,
WE
haven't
about your poetry, we haven't mentioned
0H6
thing,
People
will
mentioned one thing, people will know
'Nu
from
Peaky
Blinders.
How
know you from Peaky Blinders. How did
that
come
about.
We re
'Nu
acting
did that come about. Were you acting before
then?
I
had
acted.
When
Peeky
before then? I had acted. When Peeky Blinders
came
UP
i1:
was
a
weird
Blinders came up it was a weird coincidence.
When
I
90':
the
phone
coincidence. When I got the phone call
I
was
reading
a
book
ca lled
call I was reading a book called Peaky
Blinders
and
the
gangs
of
Peaky Blinders and the gangs of Birmingham.
We re
'Nu
if'
a
garden
Birmingham. Were you in a garden centre
at
the
time?
Birmingham. Were you in a garden centre at the
time?
Centre at the time? LAUGHTER
You're
SO
funny,
Vim
are.
You're so funny, you are. You
should
be
0|'!
Television
more.
You should be on television more. Well,
thank
Y0u_
Well, thank you. But
one
of
the
first
SCENES
we
did
But one of the first scenes we did was
me
standing
0|'!
The
street,
was me standing on the street, preaching
hell
and
damnation
and
preaching hell and damnation and that
stuff.
And
he
comes
Past
0|'!
A
that stuff. And he comes past on a horse
and
I
giVe
him
a
nod.
He
gives
horse and I give him a nod. He gives me
a
noddism
we
shot
that
SCENE.
We
me a noddism we shot that scene. We sat
down
to
have
a
drink
while
the'!
Sat down to have a drink while they reset.
We
WE FE
talking
about
the
reset. We were talking about the project
and
said
a
drama,
gangster
project and said a drama, gangster drama,
set
if'
Birmingham,
if'
the
drama, set in Birmingham, in the 1920s
I
said,
"It
will
HGVGI'
take
1920s - I said, "|t will never take off,
will
it?"
I
remember
looking
at
off, will it?" I remember looking at the
rushes,
we
just
looked
and
said,
the rushes, we just looked and said, yeah,
this
I?
going
to
be
big.
I1:
yeah, this is going to be big. It just
looked
SO
beautiful.
I
must
just looked so beautiful. I must admit
I
would
Probably
have
a
film
admit I would probably have a film that
had
cilian
Murphy
watching
a
that had cilian Murphy watching a bin
bag.
Have
'Nu
done
an'!
Acting
bin bag. Have you done any acting Tom?
No,
never.
Would
'Nu
be
tempted
Tom? No, never. Would you be tempted ?
I've
HGVGI'
thought
about
it.
You
? I've never thought about it. You have
the
looks.
No,
I
don't
think
i1:
have the looks. No, I don't think it would
be
ream],
I
don't
know,
the
would be really, I don't know, the thought
of
memorising
lines
if'
that
thought of memorising lines in that way,
like,
i1:
would
be
terrifying.
I
way, like, it would be terrifying. I feel
li ke
i1:
must
be
SO
vulnerable
feel like it must be so vulnerable to
be
if'
front
of
the
camera
and
be
to be in front of the camera and be someone
that
you're
not
and
be
someone that you're not and be really
if'
that.
Someone that you're not and be really in
that.
Really in that. Ancl
Vim
Jump
off
those
high
things.
Really in that. Ancl you jump off those high
things.
Ancl you jump off those high things. LAUGHTER
What's
next
for
'Nu?
I
filmed
Bird
What's next for you? I filmed Bird Box,
there's
a
sequel
we're
doing.
Box, there's a sequel we're doing. It's
Spanish.
Box, there's a sequel we're doing. It's
Spanish.
It's Spanish. Set
if'
Spain.
Set in Spain. Do
'Nu
speak
Spanish?
No.
Do you speak Spanish? No. So
that's.
So that's. Coming
out
next
Yfiap
I
just
90':
a
Coming out next year. I just got a part
if'
a
sci-fi
thriller
with
Liam
part in a sci-fi thriller with Liam Neeso
which
I
film
next
Yfiap
Neeso which I film next year. It's
all
going
great
for
Y0u_
You're
It's all going great for you. You're touring
again.
I'm
doing
work
touring again. I'm doing work progress,
getting
ready
for
n“!
Big
progress, getting ready for my big tour.
I'm
looking
forward
to
—
I1:
tour. I'm looking forward to. It it's
one
of
n“!
First
Proper
big
it's one of my first proper big ones.
So
Yeah
_—_
it's one of my first proper big ones. So yeah
_—_
ones. So yeah (Cheefing
8;
Applause)
The
big
(Cheering & Applause) The big question
for
right
at
the
end.
I'm
question for right at the end. I'm dying
to
kn ow,
Tom,
the
next
dying to know, Tom, the next Olympics,
you're
9n“!
28.
That's
old
Olympics, you're only 28. That's old for
diving.
What
about
the
GUY
that
for diving. What about the guy that was
diving
if'
his
40s
at
the
was diving in his 40s at the Olympics.
Ken.
Basically,
the
Olympics. Ken. Basically, the Olympics
went
to
folko
and
the'!
Olympics went to folko and they automatically
9E1:
a
qualification
automatically get a qualification spot
SO
he
came
back.
Would
'Nu
want
spot so he came back. Would you want to
Com Pete?
Will
'Nu
compete
for
US
to compete? Will you compete for us in
the
next
Olympics?
I
don't
know.
In the next Olympics? I don't know. I
haven't
been
0|'!
A
diving
board
I haven't been on a diving board since
the
Olympics
last
Yfiap
You'll
since the Olympics last year. You'll be
fresh.
I'll
be
ready.
Looking
for
be fresh. I'll be ready. Looking for a
synchronising.
A synchronising. Partner.
Exactly.
If
'Nu
decide
to
do
it,
how
Exactly. If you decide to do it, how long
would
'Nu
need
to
start
getting
long would you need to start getting back
into
shape
and
training
and
back into shape and training and working
with
Matty
again?
I
think
if
working with Matty again? I think if you
WE FE
to
ask
n“!
Coach
and
me.
We
you were to ask my coach and me, we have
two
different
GHSWETS.
What
I
have two different answers. What I want
to
do
I?
Just
90
back
to
want to do is just go back to training,
see
how
I
feel.
Because
I
training, see how I feel. Because I love
diving,
but
then,
li ke
I've
love diving, but then, like I've done
SO
much
if'
the
sport
that
I
clone so much in the sport that I don't
know
if
I
want
to
gee?
going
don't know if I want to keep going and
Vet
I
do
want
to
gee?
Going,
and yet I do want to keep going, because
I
love
it.
There's
a
because I love it. There's a balancing
thing.
Then
I
love
balancing thing. Then I love spending
more
time
with
n“!
Family
spending more time with my family and
not
having
to
travel
EIS
much.
And not having to travel as much. There's
lots
to
think
about.
You
There's lots to think about. You know
'Nu
can
keBP
knitting
of
know you can keep knitting of course.
L1:
must
be
buE-YI
I
mean
the
course. It must be busy, I mean the two
seconds
it
takes
to
get
if'
the
two seconds it takes to get in the water.
How
about
jUst
show
LIP
on
the
water. How about just show up on the day
and
see
how
it
goes.
I
don't
day and see how it goes. I don't know
if
n“!
Team-mates
would
li ke
know if my team-mates would like that.
You're
Torn
Daley,
do
what
'Nu
that. You're Tom Daley, do what you want
mate.
Whatever
'Nu
decide
it
want mate. Whatever you decide it will
be
the
right
decision
for
'10u_
will be the right decision for you. I
hope
we
get
the
chance
to
see
'Nu
I hope we get the chance to see you do
it
again.
You
know,
the
thing
I
do it again. You know, the thing I found
out
about
Benjamin,
that
I
had
found out about Benjamin, that I had no
idea,
I
knew
El
bit
about
'Nu
and
no idea, I knew a bit about you and your
career,
the
fact
that
you've.
Your career, the fact that you've. Spent
El
lot
of
Your
life
if'
China,
Spent a lot of your life in China, why
China?
What
drew
'Nu
to
China?
Why China? What drew you to China? MY
love
of
martial
arts.
You
went
My love of martial arts. You went out
there
Study?
Yes
and
I
ended
UP
out there study? Yes and I ended up teaching
lots
of
kids.
And
what
area
teaching lots of kids. And what area of
martial
AFIS?
Tai
Chi.
A
lot
of
of martial arts? Tai Chi. A lot of people
think
of
i1:
EIS
a
floaty,
people think of it as a floaty, dancy
thing.
You
S66
the
old
People
dancy thing. You see the old people doing
it
if'
squares.
That's
a
doing it in squares. That's a particular
style.
MY
Tai
Chi
if
real
particular style. My Tai Chi is real fighting
Tai
Chi.
The
first
form
fighting Tai Chi. The first form looks
a
bit
floaty
and
flan?! -.
But
it
looks a bit floaty and dancy. But it has
a;
kind
of,
self-defence
has a, kind of, self-defence application.
Could
'Nu
teach
U5,
'Nu
application. Could you teach us, you don't
all
have
to
join
if I,
who
wants
don't all have to join in, who wants to
learn
a
bit
of
Tai
Chi?
Don't all have to join in, who wants to learn a bit of Tai
Chi?
To learn a bit of Tai Chi? Can
'Nu
teach
US
something?
To learn a bit of Tai Chi? Can you teach us
something?
Can you teach us something? All
right.
See
what
'Nu
can
do,
All right. See what you can do, let's
face
it,
a
rather
under
let's face it, a rather under whelming
class.
Whelming class. Everybody
I?
Stood
UP
right.
This
Everybody is stood up right. This actually,
when
Vim
do
Tai
Chi
and
actually, when you do Tai Chi and martial
arts,
one
of
the
first
thing
martial arts, one of the first thing we
want
Vim
to
do
I?
Relax.
Lucy
we want you to do is relax. Lucy gusty.
I
want
to
test
how
relaxed
gusty. I want to test how relaxed you
6P6.
You are. This
will
redirect
a
man's
eneFQY-
This will redirect a man's energy. LAUGHTER
Wow.
LAUGHTER
Wow.
You
certainly
have
rrlY
attention.
You certainly have my attention. I
want
Vim
to
stand
with
y0Ur
feet
I want you to stand with your feet shoulder
width
apart.
Just
bend
y0Ur
shoulder width apart. just bend your knees
slightly-
knees slightly. Straighten
y0Ur
back.
Relax.
Knees slightly. Straighten your back.
Relax.
Straighten your back. Relax. Feel
com pletely
relaxed.
Now,
I
want
Feel completely relaxed. Now, I want you,
don't
do
i1:
vet,
if'
a
moment
you, don't do it yet, in a moment follow
me
and
just
move
y0Ur
hands
follow me and just move your hands UP
li ke
this.
In
a
moment.
Not
Yet.
Follow me and just move your hands up like this. In a moment. Not
Yet.
Up like this. In a moment. Not yet. I
want
Vim
to
come
to
about
there.
I want you to come to about there. Remember,
be
relaxed.
Let
y0Ur
hands
Remember, be relaxed. Let your hands float
up.
Float up. All
together,
let's
do
it.
Nice
and
All together, let's do it. Nice and slowly.
Slowly. If
'Nu
have
just
tuned
if'
_—_
slowly. If you have just tuned in
_—_
If you have just tuned in now
5109'
gee?
I1:
there.
Now stop, keep it there. Drop
y0Ur
shoulders.
See
that,
four
Drop your shoulders. See that, four inches.
Mo?
Y0Ur
shoulders?
I
inches. Drop your shoulders? I can't,
I'm
a
big
girl.
Mo?
Y0Ur
can't, I'm a big girl. Drop your shoulders.
Can
Vim
see
how
the
shoulders. Can you see how the shoulders
are
dropping-
That
shows
shoulders are dropping. That shows me
how
much
tension
they've
90':
if'
me how much tension they've got in their
body.
Me how much tension they've got in their
body.
Their body. Oh,
he's
g0':
four
inches,
does
he?
Oh, he's got four inches, does he? LAUGHTER
Oh, he's got four inches, does he?
LAUGHTER.
I
tell
'Nu
what,
I'm
enjoying
every
I tell you what, I'm enjoying every one
of
them.
I'm
trying
to
do
a
one of them. I'm trying to do a serious
martial
arts
thing
here.
Serious martial arts thing here. You
can't
tell
me
he's
g0':
four
You can't tell me he's got four inches
and
let
me
leave
it.
I
have
El
inches and let me leave it. I have a job
to
do
here.
Job to do here. Now
sink,
sink.
The
whole
Now sink, sink, sink. The whole body.
Yes,
and.
Body.Yes,and. just
feel
y0Ur
weight
going
down
just feel your weight going down into
y0Ur
legs.
I
can
definitely
into your legs. I can definitely feel
that.
Into your legs. I can definitely feel
that.
Feel that. Now
relax.
Feel that. Now
relax.
Now relax. Now relax.
Now that's
the
first
movement
of
Tai
Now that's the first movement of Tai Chi.
You
ma'!
Think
what
I?
This
'kw?
Chi. You may think what is this for? I
want
Vim
to
come
here.
Chi. You may think what is this for? I want you to come
here.
I want you to come here. Turn
around.
I want you to come here. Turn
around.
Turn around. Now
I
want
Vim
to
90
li ke
you're
Now I want you to go like you're going
to
attack
me.
Like
you're
going to attack me. Like you're going to attack me. Like you're
going to
throtfle
me
li ke
that.
Go
going to throttle me like that. Go for
it.
Going to throttle me like that. Go for
it.
For it. Hold
OH.
For it. Hold
OH.
Hold on. Go
Ol1.
Hold on. Go
Ol1.
Go on. He's
actually
scared.
Go on. He's actually
scared.
He's actually scared. What
if
I
_—_
just
90!
What if I just go! just
leave
it
Jonathan.
Just leave itjonathan. Oh,
0h!
Just leave itjonathan. Oh,
0h!
Oh, oh! APPLAUSE
Oh, oh!
APPLAUSE.
Ouch.
APPLAUSE.
Ouch.
That's
some
force.
Do
it
on
Rob.
That's some force. Do it on Rob. That
hurt.
That's some force. Do it on Rob. That
hurt.
That hurt. LAUGHTER
That hurt.
LAUGHTER.
This
could
end
UP
badly.
This could end up badly. LAUGHTER
This could end up badly.
LAUGHTER.
Let's
all
relax.
It
all
90':
a
bit
of
Let's all relax. It all got a bit of hand.
Let's
all
relax.
That
was
hand. Let's all relax. That was amazing.
Thank
'Nu
SO
much.
Thank
amazing. Thank you so much. Thank Benjamin
and
all
rrlY
guests,
ladies
Benjamin and all my guests, ladies and
gentleman.
Thank
'Nu
SO
much.
And gentleman. Thank you so much. join
US
again
next
week.
We
have
join us again next week. We have Rita
Ora
on
the
show,
Luke
Evans,
Rita Ora on the show, Luke Evans, Harry
and
Jamie
Red nap.
Now
from
his
Harry and Jamie Red nap. Now from his upcoming
album,
with
Kiss
Me
it's
upcoming album, with Kiss Me it's Dermot
Kennedy.
Dermot Kennedy. #
'Nu
take
a
photo
to
analyse
this
# you take a photo to analyse this moment
for
the
days
when
I
don't
moment for the days when I don't believe.
Believe. #
when
OUT
love
gets
stolen,
because
# when our love gets stolen, because there's
I10
exception
there's no exception #
and
I
kn ow
time
will
take
'Nu
far
# and I know time will take you far from
me.
From me. #
let
this
night
invade
rrlY
lungs,
# let this night invade my lungs, you're
all
I
want
to
breathe.
# let this night invade my lungs, you're all I want to
breathe.
You're all I want to breathe. #
right
beside
the
la ke
I'll
burn
# right beside the lake I'll burn for
Yo u,
'Nu
burn
for
me.
# right beside the lake I'll burn for you, you burn for
me.
For you, you burn for me. #
SO
kiss
me
the
WHY
that
'Nu
would
# so kiss me the way that you would if
WE
died
tonight.
# so kiss me the way that you would if we died
tonight.
If we died tonight. #
and
hold
me
the
WHY
that
'Nu
would
# and hold me the way that you would for
the
final
time.
# and hold me the way that you would for the final
time.
For the final time. #
whatever
it
comes
from
somewhere
# whatever it comes from somewhere deep
inside,
there's
a lwa ys
a
deep inside, there's always a version
of
'Nu
and
I
version of you and I #
SO
kiss
me
the
WHY
that
'Nu
would
# so kiss me the way that you would if
WE
died
tonight.
# so kiss me the way that you would if we died
tonight.
If we died tonight. #
all
OUT
deepest
secrets,
if we died tonight. # all our deepest
secrets,
# all our deepest secrets, all
OUT
darkest
moments
all our darkest moments #
oh,
I
promise
they'll
be
safe
with
# oh, I promise they'll be safe with me
#
we've
all
been
broken
# we've all been broken # we've all been broken
# and
there's
I10
exception
# and there's no exception # and there's no exception
# but
'Nu
ca rry
it
SO
gracefuuy
# but you carry it so gracefully # but you carry it so gracefully
# let
this
night
invade
rrlY
lungs,
# let this night invade my lungs, you're
all
I
want
to
breath.
# let this night invade my lungs, you're all I want to
breath.
You're all I want to breath. #
right
beside
the
la ke
I'll
burn
# right beside the lake I'll burn for
Yo u,
'Nu
burn
for
me.
# right beside the lake I'll burn for you, you burn for
me.
For you, you burn for me. #
SO
kiss
me
that
'Nu
would
# so kiss me that you would # so kiss me that you would
# if
WE
die
tonight.
# if we die tonight. # if we die tonight.
# hold
me
the
WHY
that
'Nu
would
# hold me the way that you would # hold me the way that you would
# for
the
final
time.
# hold me the way that you would # for the final
time.
# for the final time. # for the final time.
# whatever
ma)!
Come,
somewhere
deBP
# whatever may come, somewhere deep inside
#
there's
a lwa ys
this
version
of
'Nu
# there's always this version of you and
I
and I #
SO
just
kiss
me
the
WHY
that
'Nu
# so just kiss me the way that you would
#
if
WE
die
tonight,
if
WE
die
# if we die tonight, if we die tonight.
-
let
this
night
invade
rrlY
lungs,
# let this night invade my lungs, you're
# let this night invade my lungs, you're all
that
I
want
to
breathe.
You're all that I want to breathe. #
right
beside
the
la ke,
I
burn
for
# right beside the lake, I burn for you,
'Nu
burn
for
me.
# right beside the lake, I burn for you, you burn for
me.
You, you burn for me. #
SO
kiss
me
the
WHY
that.
# so kiss me the way that. You
would
You would #
if
WE
die
tonight.
You would # if we die
tonight.
# if we die tonight. # if we die tonight.
# and
hold
me
the
WHY
that
'Nu
would
# and hold me the way that you would # and hold me the way that you would
# for
the
final
time,
yeah.
# for the final time, yeah. # for the final time, yeah.
# whatever
ma)!
Come,
somewhere
deBP
# whatever may come, somewhere deep inside.
# whatever may come, somewhere deep
inside.
Inside. #
there's
a lwa ys
this
version
of
'Nu
# there's always this version of you and
I
and I #
SO
kiss
me
the
WHY
that
'Nu
would
# so kiss me the way that you would # so kiss me the way that you would
# if
WE
die
tonight,
if
WE
die
# if we die tonight, if we die tonight,
yeah.
Tonight, yeah. #
if
WE
die
tonight.
# if we die tonight. APPLAUSE
# if we die tonight.
APPLAUSE.
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