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Thank you very much. How you doing?
Thank you.
Well, good evening, everyone.
Good evening and welcome to The Jonathan Ross Show.
We've got a great program me lined up for you tonight.
Let's have a look at who's in my green room.
Joining us on the show,
the most entertaining father and son combo since The Krankies,
it's Harry and Jamie Redknapp, ladies and gentlemen.
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Along with them, a brilliantly talented performer
and my friend from The Masked Singer,
it's the wonderful Rita Ora!
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Also, we have an actor and singer
who's swapped the Welsh Valleys for the Hollywood Hills,
it is the fabulous Luke Evans!
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And along with them, a hilarious comedian,
writer and actor, the fabulous Sindhu Vee!
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Welcome back to the show.
And also on the show tonight,
chatting and performing live in the studio,
a singer-songwriter who has over 23 billion streams worldwide,
the one and only Ellie Goulding!
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So, before we get to that,
it is a big weekend here at ITV
because it is, of course, the return of I'm A Celebrity.
Who's excited for that? CH EERING
Ant and Dec are back in Australia, and what a line-up they've got.
There's radio Dj Chris Moyles, Loose Woman Charlene White,
royal rugby star Mike Tindall,
legendary '80s icon Boy George,
who looks like he's going into the jungle
dressed as Mr Blobby going camping. LAUGHTER
His biggest hit was, of course, Karma Chameleon,
which is also the first thing he's going to have to eat
in the Bushtucker Trial. He's ready.
But, I think I speak for all of us when I say,
the contestant we're most looking forward to...
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...is former Health Secretary... CHEERING
...Matt Hancock. BOOING
Matt is going... Matt is going into the bush,
which I think is what got him in trouble last time.
LAUGHTER
He's learned... He's learned nothing.
He has learned absolutely nothing. APPLAUSE
But that is a great booking for the program me
because he is an action man.
He's like a real-lifejames Bond.
He can do everything. Look at this.
He can jump. LAUGHTER
He can climb. LAUGHTER
Let's face it, he is cool AF. Look at this.
I mean, come on.
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I can't wait. Can you?
Now, it's that time of the year, of course,
when if we're not at home watching I'm A Celebrity,
we're probably heading out to bonfire shows or parties.
And I know, whenever I leave the house,
I'm always missing my dogs.
So my favourite invention is the pet cam.
I've got one at home where you can check up on your pets
and see what they're up to.
Although, as one owner found out this week,
some of our dogs don't like to be watched. Here's what he saw.
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He doesn't want to be on TV. He's camera-shy.
We're gonna be chatting to all my guests tonight,
but let's get my first lot out here.
Will you please welcome onto the stage, Rita Ora,
Sindhu Vee and Jamie and Harry Redknapp?
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Jamie, how you doing?
Harry, come on in.
Nice, cosy couch here, Jonathan.
It's great to have you all here, thank you so much for joining us.
So, I'm A Celebrity back tomorrow.
And, of course, we have former King of the jungle Harry Redknapp
with us, ladies and gentlemen!
That was quite something.
So, Rita, would you go in the jungle, do I'm A Celeb?
I don't know.
Ooh, there's a lot I like to have around me.
I like to have my diffuser around me, my humidifier, my candle.
I don't know, it seems like a lot for me.
What about eating the stuff?
If it was, like, a fish eye or a kangaroo's bum?
I can't... I LOVE watching it.
I thought you were gonna say, "I love kangaroo's bum."
I love kangaroo's bum. I LOVE a kangaroo's butt.
No, I love, love watching it,
but I don't know, it takes a lot of balls.
Yeah, and you have to eat a lot of balls.
I don't know. But well clone.
The food is shocking, I must be honest.
What was the worst challenge you did?
Be honest. The worst challenge, I think,
was at the end, the last one. I kept saying, "I don't like rats."
So they planned it so they actually give you something you really...
I end up in this coffin with about 40 rats crawling all over me.
Matt Hancock's gonna...
He'll be fine doing that, he's used to it.
LAUGHTER Won't be a problem.
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Sindhu, have they asked you? Would you do it?
I wouldn't do it because, if I did,
my kids would ask for legal emancipation from the family.
And, erm, yeah, I don't think I can do that.
I like my kids. I mean, I don't...
I mean, I like 'em, they're fine, but, you know...
I do love them that much that I wouldn't do it, no.
And Jamie, I have to ask you, though,
because your dad did so well. They must have asked you.
I got asked the next year. Wow.
My agent called me up and said, "Would you like to go on?"
You couldn't follow that. It was impossible.
He was so funny, so kind.
And obviously the relationship with my mum.
But, if I was ever gonna do it, it would have to be this year.
Cos you're not gonna do a challenge.
Matt Hancock is gonna do every challenge.
You can just sit there like that, can't you?
"How many did you get, Matt?!"
I think this is the best year to do it.
But no, not... No, it's not for me.
The amazing thing that came out at the jungle, I think,
the thing that everyone loved, obviously, they loved you
as a person, but your relationship with your wife, Sandra.
How many years have you been together?
Well, we've been married 54 years.
We actually went out last year, Jonathan, a true story,
we went out for dinner to celebrate our 55th anniversary,
and they bought us a cake with 55 years on it.
We sat there and we started to work it out.
We realised it was only 54 years.
LAUGHTER
I swear. We still ate the cake. We didn't tell 'em.
But, yeah, we were going out four years before that.
We were just sort of 17 when we met.
You've been together as a couple for 58 years?
Yeah. Oh, so cute!
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And you know what?
The question I have to ask, everyone wants to know,
if there is one, what is the secret of making it work for that long?
I don't know, we just get on great. Honestly.
The whole time? The whole time.
I know it seems stupid to say to people,
we don't have... we hardly...
You know, I can have a row. You know, I can be a bit short.
I think, when you're a football manager,
you can't keep being nice. You're gonna have clays.
But you couldn't row with my missus if you tried.
She's so placid. Ancl if I get the hump, she goes,
"Calm down, look at you, look at you, calm down."
Ancl I go, "All right." Ancl that's the end of the argument.
So she knows how to defuse you?
Absolutely. I've never seen them argue.
Aww. No, never.
That's also because you don't tell her to calm down.
LAUGHTER
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When you have had a disagreement,
OK, which obviously Sandra has diffused,
what would the disagreement...
what sort of things have you disagreed about?
I'm not trying to start trouble here. No, no.
I heard... I know one thing.
Nothing major. There's one thing.
Yeah? Yeah, horses.
Horses. Horses?
She does moan about the horses, yeah.
I'm a racehorse owner, I buy racehorses.
How many have you got?
Well, Mum will be watching this program me.
LAUGHTER
18.
Officially, how many have you told Sandra about?
She knows about one. LAUGHTER
18? No.
I had a runner the other week, a true story,
I'm watching it and Sandra came in the room,
and I said, "My horse is running. Look, it's gonna win."
"Oh," she said, "I didn't think that was the name of it."
I said, "No, we changed the name." LAUGHTER
But, no, the bills go straight to my accountants, lucky enough.
She don't see it.
She's gonna get suspicious
if every time one wins, you've change the name.
Sindhu, your husband is Danish, is that right? He is.
Do you have disagreements?
Yes. LAUGHTER
No, we basically have one big disagreement,
which is the children.
Because he has that whole thing about,
"Oh, kids have to be happy."
It's like, "No, they need to get 100 out of 100 in math.
"What are you doing?"
Erm, so that's a big thing, you know.
He thinks it's, er...
He thinks I'm too tough on them.
Ancl I think he's wrong.
LAUGHTER
So, Rita... Yes!
...you're super-busy at the moment and you're hosting,
is it the MTV VMAS?
EMAs, The European Music Awards for MTV.
So, you're hosting... You've hosted it before, haven't you?
Yeah, I hosted it back in 2017, now I'm doing it again,
but I'm co-hosting it this time, Jonathan.
Who with?
Taika. My partner. Yeah!
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That's so lovely. Yeah!
And Taika, as I'm sure you know, is a brilliant director.
He's also a brilliant writer, brilliant performer as well.
Ancl he loves you. Well, who doesn't?
Every time we shoot, er, we film The Masked Singer,
he Face Times me. I'm like, "Hey, babe, you all right?"
He goes, "Where's Jonathan?" I'm like, "What?! OK."
Ancl they just have this, like, convo about films,
cos you both love comics.
I think he's only using you to get to me.
I knew it. Everyone does at this point.
Have you worked together before? Done any hosting together?
No, never worked together before. How's it gonna work?
Have you rehearsed yet or...? No.
We have no idea how it's gonna happen.
Well, it's live, so we all know what happens when it's live.
You don't know what's gonna happen.
You can practise and you can practise,
but at the end of the clay, it's nice to be able to do
something fun with someone that is my favourite person.
You know, he kind of never follows the scripts,
cos he writes them himself,
so he's definitely not gonna follow the teleprompter.
It's gonna be live and I don't know what's gonna happen.
But, you know what's fun?
A lot of music people are gonna be there,
a lot of my mates are gonna be there,
and it's a music awards show, you're gonna have fun.
It's lovely, cos I've known you for a few years now,
and the phrase, of course, "loved up" applies here.
You seem so, so in sync with him and so happy.
We're just the same person, you know?
It's just nice to find someone that you can have fun with
and work with and respect, respect each other's work.
You know, it's nice to have space,
but also be together at the same time.
Speaking about Rita working with Taika,
you two are working together on your new show. Aww.
It's called Jamie 8; Harry's World Cup Challenge: Got, Got Need. Yeah.
It starts Thursdays on Sky Max and on Now as well.
There's a challenge involved in this, isn't there?
Yeah, the premise of the show is that Dad and I get challenged,
well, I get challenged by jack Whitehall
to get 11 World Cup legends in 11 days.
So I thought I would get
the most connected person in football to help me.
Unfortunately, he wasn't around, so I got Dad.
And, erm... we just went on a lovely trip
for 11 days, meeting as many footballers as we can,
but had to have a World Cup background.
Won't give too much away.
We've got Sir Geoff Hurst, cos Dad obviously played with him,
World Cup legend.
We had a real... A lovely...
I've not done it before, just Dad and I.
It's always Mum or my brother.
It was nice for Dad and I to spend some quality time.
Was that the most time you've spent alone together?
Er, yeah. On our own, I guess, Dad, yeah?
Yeah, probably, for a long time, yeah, since they were kids.
I played for Bournemouth with Dad.
When he was the manager, we spent time then.
But then he sold me, which was nice of him.
LAUGHTER
You were 17 or something? I was 17.
Yeah, he sold me like a camel. LAUGHTER
There he is, there, look! That's my brother.
Is that your brother? That's Mark on the right.
So, what, you couldn't sell him? You could only sell one?
Couldn't sell him. No, I tried. Couldn't get a decent fee for him.
As I said, this is...
It's called Jamie 8; Harry's World Cup Challenge: Got, Got Need.
Have a look at this.
Mate, I'm getting so excited for the World Cup. Me too.
I challenge you to do a real-life sticker album.
I'll give you 11 clays, 11 players, World Cup stars. It's ridiculous.
Remember when I was a kid and I used to collect those sticker albums?
Yeah, yeah. This is a real-life sticker album.
And I need you. Why?
Dad, he's here. Harry! What's happening?
Oh, ho-ho! Sorry, lads, have you seen any footballers?
What you on about? He's your mate. It'll be fine.
What's this about? I'm in the middle of a bloody show.
We're in Madrid, baby. You're in Madrid? Whoo!
We are friends with Mr Roberto Carlos.
No, no camera, no camera.
I think you're gonna be Need, Need, Need.
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Looks like a lot of fun.
You had a lot of fun making it? So good, yeah.
So, basically, for you, it must be...
I mean, you were meeting a lot of contemporaries you've worked with.
You were meeting a lot of your heroes, I guess?
Of course, yeah. But I'm still the same.
I see a footballer I respect and love, I still get starstruck.
I've always been that way.
And Dad, it was weird, even growing up as a kid,
I mean, remember when...
Yeah, but when you're playing against 'em, Jamie,
you're not supposed to get starstruck.
You're not supposed to go,
"Oh, can I have your autograph, Mr Bryan Robson?"
Yeah. That's not how it's supposed to work.
George Best. George Best stayed at our house.
When Dad was the manager of Bournemouth,
he come and played for Bournemouth. Are you sure? George was there?
Mum never told me this! LAUGHTER
Talking about meeting your heroes,
have you ever met your heroes? Who are your heroes?
Oh, gosh, I've been so lucky, you know, with what I do.
For me, my clad always played so many vinyls around the house
and so many sort of records.
Prince was, like, a massive guy for us,
and I was really lucky, actually, to be able to work with him.
Two, three months, I was living in Paisley Park
and I went to Minneapolis.
You were living in Paisley Park?
Well, not inside, I stayed at the bed-and-breakfast next door.
Right. A little Airbnb he's set up?
Well, cos he's got these cloves flying around, right? No joke.
He actually had doves flying around?
I swear, he had these, like, birds, cloves.
Yeah, we met, but he had this thing where he didn't really like, erm,
technology around him and swearing,
so there was no phones around him and no sort of, like...
I guess it was the religion that he follows.
We used to take bikes all around Paisley Park
and, erm, we hung out a lot, and that's what it is.
We were always making music, the whole band and I,
and that was that.
But to go cyc...
I mean, making music with him is something,
but to go cycling with him. I know.
Such an incongruous thing.
Ancl the Afro was just, like, blowing in the wind. Wow.
It was really cool. I was, like, "Yo!"
I always wanted to touch it.
He could just run freely, he didn't worry?
Yeah, he was the man of the town. It was amazing. Wow.
I'm very, very lucky, I have to say. I'm so grateful.
It was, like, one of the best experiences of my life.
But, Sindhu, you're a big Prince fan, aren't you?
Are you? Oh, huge.
The third time I saw him, which was the last time,
he was here for his 21 clays. You saw him live?
Yeah, yeah. Right.
Ancl my husband got me ticket A1. Wow.
I was right here. Aw.
Prince, he was right there and I told him all my feelings.
Ancl I was... I kind of blacked out, cos I had so many feelings. Right.
He left that side.
He never came back to our side of the stage.
LAUGHTER Sounds like him, honestly.
We're gonna take a break. But don't go away.
More from our guests when we come back.
See you in a couple of minutes.
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Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen.
I still have all my fabulous guests.
Rita, let me talk to you a bit. Yes. I love your story.
I love what you've achieved,
but also it's fascinating because your family came here to the UK
from Kosovo. In the '90s, yeah. 1990.
As immigrants. Yeah.
You were escaping what was going on there. Yeah.
And when you first came here, where did you stay?
Well, London, which was the best thing my parents could ever do.
It was really lucky. Ancl I'm very grateful.
Did you have family here or did you start out on your own again?
No, no. My parents brought us over here, me and my sister.
They started from scratch.
Got jobs and built their way up and now my clad is a pub owner.
Oh, I do love a good pub. Ancl my mum is a psychiatrist. Yeah.
I've met both of them, and they're both very lovely.
Thanks. Yeah, no, they love you. You were living in one room
when you first arrived, weren't you?
Yeah, well, it was, kind of, it wasn't easy.
I mean, listen, we had love all around.
Ancl as kids, we never really were sort of exposed to that.
We just sort of had so much love in the room,
so, yeah, we kind of grew up in the council estates
and then slowly but surely figured it out.
Now I'm really lucky I'm able to sort of repay them
for all their hard work that they've clone.
But I'm fascinated by it, and I thought I knew a lot about you,
but I was reading up on Rita, just to see,
what do I not know about her life?
And I discovered that your grandfather,
who I did know, Besim. Yeah, Besim Sahatciu.
And that's your birth name, Sahatciu, as well.
Yeah, that's my birth name.
Besim Sahatciu was a really famous, very well established,
very successful movie director. Yeah.
He, erm, passed away pretty young, actually,
but he was so, so, like, amazing.
Because he had all these ideas and fantasies and crazy things.
When we were kids, he would just tell us all these insane stories.
Ancl he really made me believe that this dream I had
was a reality,
because where I grew up, it really wasn't a reality.
Ancl so, I don't know, I guess he was really the main guy in my life
that gave me that confidence of creativity,
and be, like, "Do you know what? Maybe I can sing.
"Maybe I can do this for real."
Ancl here we are, about to put out the third album.
So I'm really lucky, yeah.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Thank you.
Let's hear it for Besim.
But this picture. We found this picture.
Have a look at this picture. Oh, God.
This is amazing.
This is Besim, your grandfather, with Dua Lipa's grandfather. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. SINDHU GASPS
So they knew each other back in the...
I'm not being, but you can see that's Besim on the right,
and he does look, Dua Lipa does look like her grandfather.
There's a lot of Albanian-Kosovan pop stars now,
so I'm really happy. It's opened a whole floodgate.
I'm so proud of all of us, it's amazing.
Well, continued success to you. Yeah, Jonathan!
I love you, and you're... Thank you.
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...you're so talented and you work so hard.
So we're talking about a grandfather there,
you're a grandfather, Harry, now, aren't you? Oh, yeah.
How many grandchildren do you have? I've lost count, Jonathan.
Let me have a quick count. Errn, nine. I've got three.
Really? You've got nine!
Nine. Congratulations.
I thought it was eight. Congratulations.
The boys all play football.
They all play football. Except Charlie's a rugby player.
My eldest boy. He's gone to America on a scholarship.
To Arizona. You know, it must be nerve-racking for them
to sort of like try out in sports,
knowing that you've such success, you've had such success.
It must be quite daunting for them.
Are they ever kind of, like, scared of playing in front of you?
No, not really.
I go and watch them every week, Jon. I watch the kids play if I can.
Watch the grandkids play. I just stand out of the way.
I don't get involved. I never shout at them.
Too many parents stand there shouting,
screaming nonsense at the kids. It doesn't become fun anymore.
Yeah. You know... Enjoy it.
When my son first started playing football
and he came home and he was so excited.
Ancl he said, "Oh, Mummy, Mummy, I'm on the D team."
Ancl I know that there's three teams, A, B, C.
D is for Duffer, you never get off the bench.
LAUGHTER Yeah.
Ancl genuinely, as an Indian mum, I wanted to say to him...
And then he said, "Oh, will you come and watch?"
Ancl I was like, "No, because I don't want to be ashamed."
LAUGHTER
You would hate me, Harry, you would hate me.
And, you know, because you're in the rain, it's cold
and your kid's on the bench,
because this is the UK, you have to be, like,
"Oh, well clone, darling." I'm like, "Why am I here?"
LAUGHTER
Ancl so, I remember saying to him,
because I thought he played better than D team.
So I did write a letter to the school.
Ancl I did say that, "I wonder if you think
"that Indians are not good at football."
LAUGHTER
"And I wonder if... Ancl I wonder..."
And he got on the B team.
LAUGHTER
Yeah... Nice. ..I'm that person.
That's a smooth move. I'm that person.
My mum wrote the same letter to my dad.
LAUGHTER
"He's gotta be in the first team."
"Why ain't Jamie playing?" Yeah. No dinner.
Why don't you sell him to Liverpool? Yeah.
Jamie, you've got a baby who's almost one.
Just turning one now? Yeah, Raphael, he's just...
He's one. Yeah, in a couple of weeks.
Yeah. There he is, the little man.
Very sweet! RITA: Aw!
No, he's great. Aw!
I'm pretty hands-on. Changing and everything like that?
Yeah. You never h am §o139e° a “a?”
No. Didn't change a nappy_
You know, men of that generation,
you kind of weren't allowed to be that involved, were you?
Jonathan, it was completely different, wasn't it?
Hold on, I'm not as old as you!
LAUGHTER
What do you mean?
Dad. No, I was just...
We're the same age.
You're getting there. I know that.
I was just gonna say, everything...
Even football, Jonathan, back in the day,
if your wife was having a baby, you still played on the Saturday.
They'd come in at half-time, I swear,
"Harry, your missus has had a little boy."
"Oh, lovely. How are we doing second half?"
You went out and played.
Everybody just...
No-one didn't not play cos their wife was in lab our.
That's what happened. Yeah.
Then it all changed. Now it's different, obviously.
But your baby, he doesn't like jack Whitehall, does he?
He's not a fan. He's a good judge, Rafa's a judge.
We've got... You posted this picture.
And this is, I think at your house, is this at home here?
LAUGHTER
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I mean, kids know, kids know. We were watching an Arsenal game,
and jack kept banging on about how well Arsenal are doing.
Rafa's like, "I'm not having that." So, yeah. That's sweet.
Yeah, bless him.
Rita, we should talk about Masked Singer a bit.
Oh, yeah, come on, let's do it.
Because I know you're excited about the fact we did
an I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here... Masked Singer special.
It is so fun. It was so crazy. It's on tomorrow night.
Yep. I thought, and, Rita, cos you're guesses aren't often great.
Let's not go there, Jonathan.
I thought you'd find it a bit easier
because, of course, the people on the show,
we knew they were all gonna be people... From the show.
...who had who had been on I'm A Celebrity. That's right.
So it narrows it down considerably. But did you find it easier?
Was it easier, having them narrowed down?
I kind of know the iconic moments of I'm A Celeb, do you know what I mean?
Myleene in the shower.
Katie and Peter falling in love. Ancl watching that whole thing.
Ancl other things.
Eating things. But that was it.
So, in my head, I was like, "That might not be enough names."
I mean, listen, there's 195 names. Yeah.
And that was three names you remembered.
Well, you're really good at this
because, obviously, you've been alive a bit longer than me.
LAUGHTER And...
But you put the clots together. I do put the dots together.
Because you're like an elephant, you remember everything.
I'm not like an elephant! You're like an old elephant, Jonathan!
But it's lovely to be next to you.
I call him, like, my showbiz clad. He's like my clad.
All right, brother.
Sorry, it's going.
Uncle!
I call him my showbiz uncle.
It's like having your homie with you.
It's nice to work with you, cos you're literally my mate.
So it's really lovely.
And I try to help you out with the jokes.
Yeah, but I actually think I do a good job.
Yeah, I try to help you out with the jokes.
LAUGHTER
That's right. But sometimes you say things
that don't make any sense to anyone. That's right, that's right.
I panic. I don't if we can say any of the characters on the show.
I don't know. I'm gonna say it anyway.
So there's a pigeon on the series. Yeah.
A few people made a few pigeon jokes, puns.
I said something like, "Oh, that pigeon looks clucking mad."
You know, it wasn't great material.
But you knew what we were doing with them.
And Rita, at one stage... Hear this, guys.
She stood up really confidently.
Before he says this, I need you guys to really have my back on this
and give me a round of applause.
She said this like it was a phrase that you'd all think,
"This is a good one."
She stood up and went, "OK, pigeon me this..."
LAUGHTER
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"Pigeon me this."
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No, no.
RITA LAUGHS I'll be honest with you.
That was very sweet, but amazingly patronising of you.
Yeah. But thanks for the support, appreciate it.
But you sing very happily in public.
Jamie, do you sing?
No, not really, no.
I hear that when you... In the shower?
Isn't it true that when you first sign for a football club...
Yeah. ..there's an initiation ceremony.
Yeah. And they get you to sing.
They got you to sing? Yeah. Everyone has to.
You've got no choice. OK, so you have sung.
So what would be your song of choice?
Oh, wow. When I signed for Liverpool, I was 17.
Yeah.
And I did Rapper's Delight. LAUGHTER
Sugar hill Gang? Strong. Sugar hill Gang.
Rapper's Delight? That is strong.
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Well, obviously, you know what I'm gonna ask now, ladies and gentlemen.
Yes.
Because, actually, yes...
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So, pigeon me this, would you...
LAUGHTER
RITA LAUGHS Now he's using my jokes!
Would you like to hear a little bit of Rapper's Delight?
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And let's face it...
Really? Are you in? Do you know the words?
This should be good, cos he used to be in the Spice Boys.
Do you remember that? OK.
OK, here we go. OK, here we go. Ready?
# I said-a hip, hop A hippie, a hippie
# To the hip hip hop-a You don't stop the rock
# It to the bang-bang boogie Say up jump the boogie
# To the rhythm of the boogie The beat
# Now what you hear is not a test Ancl I'm rappin' to the beat. #
Right, that's it! Hey!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Well done!
That's good. That was amazing.
You've still got it! Well...
We're gonna have to say goodbye to Harry and Jamie now,
because of his age, of course.
LAUGHTER
You know, Jamie needs to get to bed early.
But don't go anywhere, because in a few moments,
we'll be joined here by Luke Evans. We'll see you after the break.
Join me first in saying thank you to Harry and Jamie Redknapp,
ladies and gentlemen! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Welcome back to the show. Let's get my next guest out.
From The Hobbit, Fast 8; Furious and Beauty And The Beast,
it is the incredible Luke Evans!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Luke.
Thank you so much for coming.
LUKE: Mwah.
How you doing?
You look amazing. You look amazing.
Nice to see you. Sit down.
Luke looks amazing, doesn't he, ladies and gentlemen?
CH EERING AND APPLAUSE, WHISTLING
Oh, thanks.
You got back in super shape during lockdown, didn't you?
I saw some photographs. You really put the hours in.
How handsome is Luke? Look at this! Keep going. Keep going.
Oh, obsessed! And the space between your chest.
Never mind! LAUGHTER
He's like a Disney prince, isn't he?
He's a real-life one. He's a human being!
Not a plaything. Unfortunately, I don't get cast in those roles.
Also, come on, girls, there's two of us.
LAUGHTER Luke, it's great to have you here.
You're known still, primarily, as an actor.
That would be fair to say. And that is probably still your first love.
But your career as a singer is going great guns. Yeah.
It's doing all right. Yeah, I mean, singing actually is my first love.
Ancl I was singing way before I was doing any acting.
Weirdly, because of the movie stuff, I got the album deal. Yeah.
Ancl now I'm just about to launch my second studio album.
Second album coming out, ladies and gentlemen. Wow.
And that's cos the first one did so well.
And obviously, if you had to choose one, then,
could you choose between acting and singing if you had to choose?
It probably would be the singing.
Wow. So the singing really is your first love.
Because singing is just me, there's no mask.
I'm not playing a character, I'm not in costume.
It's just me and my voice. Ancl it's my voice.
No-one is gonna... I don't change it. It's just who I am.
It's a very honest, real, authentic thing, I feel, is singing. You know?
So, Luke's new album is called A Song For You.
And here's the interesting development, I think,
you've co-written two of the songs on this. I have.
Yeah, never written in my life.
Ancl then during lockdown, in 2020,
me and Amy Wadge, an incredible songwriter... Yeah.
...who has written with, like, a million people.
She's, er, Welsh, also.
I reached out and I said, "Would you write with me?
"Well, can you show me how to write?"
Cos I've written poetry and stories
and lyrics, but never really understood how to put them together.
Ancl she was, like, "Come on, kid, I'll show you how." And she did.
And you duet with Charlotte Church, as well. I do!
How fun.
Charlotte Church, Voice Of An Angel. Yeah.
I've known that girl since she was ten years old... Wow.
...and I was 16.
Ancl we used to, er, I used to work as a mail boy in a bank
when I was 16 in Cardiff,
and I used to pay for my own singing lessons.
15 quid a week.
Ancl I'd go to this little terraced house on the outskirts of Cardiff.
I'd walk up the street and I'd hear this sound of this voice,
"Who is this girl?"
This tiny little thing would walk out.
It was Charlotte Church. Wow.
She became famous on one of your shows.
Yeah, it was on a weird talent show I did for ITV years ago.
The Big Big Talent Show.
She was meant to be introducing her aunt on stage.
Yeah, I was in the audience that night. Wow.
Were you there that night?
Yeah, I was 16, 17, yeah. That's crazy!
So was I! Wow!
Yeah.
You also duet on the album with Nicole Kidman.
Yeah, we...
We were at their house one night when I was in Australia
shooting Nine Perfect Strangers.
And, erm, we sang around the piano
and we started to create the ideas for the album.
Ancl I said, "I'd love to do some duets."
And I thought, "Should I maybe just ask her?
"What am I gonna lose?" Ancl she said yes. Wow.
Ancl, erm, and, yeah, Nicole Kidman is a duet on my album.
Well, we have a clip of that.
So, as I said, the album is out right now.
The album is called A Song For You. And this is Say Something.
This is Luke Evans and Nicole Kidman. Look at this.
# From anywhere I would've followed you
# Say something I'm giving up on you... #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
That's lovely.
Your career... Cos you've done a bit of everything, almost.
You've done the gritty stuff,
and I know you've got a new series coming up.
But also, you were Gaston, of course,
so a whole generation of kids see you as Gaston. They do.
How do they react when they meet Gaston?
Um, well, it's one or the other.
They're either, like, mesmerised, and they're, like, "Is it?"
Ancl then they ask their mother, "Is that Gaston?"
Or they're absolutely terrified... Yeah.
...and they run the opposite way.
But he's got the best song in the film, I think.
Oh, my God. Fantastic.
Ancl the best outfit, and the wig, the hair was fantastic.
I can lend it to you any time you want. Yep. Yep.
LAUGHTER Don't need it yet.
But you know what's exciting as well is...
Because Sindhu has just had her first movie role,
so that's amazing, so...
Yes! Congratulations! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Thank you. Thank you so much. And this film is going to be huge.
Tell us what it is. It's Matilda The Musical.
CHEERING Yes, I know.
So, it's the musical on film.
So based on the Roald Dahlstory with the Tim Min chin songs.
With the Tim Min chin songs,
and it is directed by Matthew Warch us.
Matilda is played by a fantastic child,
and I have enough kids to know... LAUGHTER
Yeah. ..you know.
LUKE LAUGHS A fantastic child, Alisha Weir.
Just a super talent, but also such a great kid.
Ancl it's the musical, and I play Mrs Phelps,
who has the mobile library.
So... But you don't sing in the film?
Well, no.
If it had been a singing role, I would have tried out
because I think I can sing.
And I would have not got it. LAUGHTER
As your first film experience, before we show a clip,
how was the filming?
How did you enjoy actually making a movie?
I mean, it was absolutely mind-blowing.
I mean, I'd never clone a film.
First of all, learning other lines someone else has written,
you know, as a stand-up, I'm like, "Who's gonna memorise this?"
Then there's that thing of, "It's just not funny enough.
"Maybe if I move the word." But it's like, "no."
Um, so that was wild. But you know what I really love?
Every time I left my trailer, someone would say,
"Mrs Phelps travelling, Mrs Phelps travelling."
It made me feel so important, like I was in the CIA.
Ancl then I would get home,
I'd be watching TV, and I'd say to my husband,
"I'm gonna travel." Ancl he'd be like, "What?"
I'm like, "I'm going to the bathroom."
JOHNATHAN LAUGHS It was so cool on so many levels.
Who's playing Trunchbull? Emma Thompson.
CHEERING
I know, and... she was properly scary.
Yeah.
Ancl she has, like, a real nasty evilness to her,
which you don't expect in a children's film.
Is this Emma Thompson or Trunchbull? No, Mrs TrunchbulL
JONATHAN LAUGHS There was that.
Ancl Lashana as Miss Honey was great.
Also, "Mr Social Gritty Drama" was Mr Wormwood.
Stephen Graham. Stephen Graham.
I mean, it was incredible that he...
I won't give it away, but he was so good.
Andrea Riseborough was Mrs Wormwood.
The whole thing was incredible. Super good.
Let's have a look at a clip. This is Matilda.
So, it's out in cinemas 25th of November.
Have a look at this.
'Your mind, Matilda.'
Your parents must think they've won the lottery with a child like you.
'Oh. Yeah.'
They just love me at home.
Do you want to hear about my first day at school?
Yuck. I'd rather eat vegetables.
Now get to bed, you little bookworm!
# We're told we have to do What we're told, but surely... #
Mrs Phelps! Where's the revenge section?
# Sometimes you have to be A little bit naughty. #
Where's my hat?
Stupid.
HE SCREAMS
# There's a place you are sent If you haven't been good... #
'You're gonna meet the Trunchbull now.'
The Trunchbull? Headmistress at Crunchem Hall.
This isn't a school. It's a prison.
I like troublemakers, Wormwood.
They make such a lovely sound...
...when they snap.
No!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Yeah.
That's a lovely, fun family film.
You've got a new series coming out as well, haven't you?
I do, yep. It's called Echo 3.
It's a huge, sweeping, geopolitical thriller.
It's about two men, one is the brother
and one is the husband of a woman who gets taken hostage in Colombia.
Ancl also, we shot really...
It was in Colombia, so all over the country.
Is it safe filming all over Colombia, cos there are areas...?
Um, well we had military with us most of the time, yeah.
The men with guns all the time. So super-safe?
Super-safe. THEY LAUGH
It never felt... I'm from Aberbargoed in South Wales.
Nothing could faze me. Come on!
Now, before we go to a break, I want to ask Sindhu something,
because recently, you were in the news...
because you predicted... Oh, yeah, yes.
...that WhatsApp would collapse. Uh-huh.
I did. I did. How you manage to do that?
Basically, it was Diwali,
and then there was this thing about Rishi Sunak is gonna be PM,
and I tweeted, "Heads up, if a billion Indians get Diwali
"and an Indian PM on the same clay, WhatsApp will break."
And the next clay, it broke. LAUGHTER
I mean, I don't really think it's rocket...
Nailed it. APPLAUSE
I mean... Because it's not rocket science.
If you're Indian and you have different family WhatsApp groups...
My smallest family WhatsApp group is 43 people, OK?
Smallest. HE LAUGHS
Ancl the other thing is, you know, when they are all at home with me,
they're all shouting and talking over each other.
They do the same on WhatsApp.
So it's like, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing!
They're all, you know, "Meh, meh, meh... What did you say?
"No, you shut up." It's like this the whole time.
Ancl I thought Diwali is a big deal to us, and...
...Rishi Sunak becomes PM, like, hello.
So I thought it's gonna break.
I don't... And people are like, "How did you prophesise that?
"Give me the lottery numbers." Ancl I was like, "What?"
You know, this is... It's actually scientific.
LAUGHTER
We're gonna take a break, but don't go anywhere
cos we'll be joined by Ellie Goulding
and she'll be performing at the end of the show as well.
So we'll see you after the break. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Welcome back to the show. Let's get my next guest out.
She'll be singing at the end of the program me,
but she's joining us for a quick chat first.
It is, of course, Ellie Goulding!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
SINDHU: Hello! ELLIE: Hi!
RITA: You look so good!
Hello, hello. Come and sit down. Lovely to see you.
So, Ellie is back with new music, ladies and gentlemen.
That's the good news. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
A fifth album, Higher Than Heaven, is out.
You can pre-order it now in advance for February, I think?
Yes. February the 3rd.
And you're gonna be performing Let It Die from that album later.
It must be good to be back. Is it good?
Have you finished the album completely? Yes, it's clone.
Um, it's good to be back.
I think we all can relate to the lockdown kind of... clip.
So it feels good to just perform and to have new songs to sing to people.
Were there any things about the lockdown process that helped?
Was a nice having that kind of quiet around you?
Does it help the writing process?
Um, the one thing was that I was forced into things
that I stopped doing, which was playing guitar...
When you say you play the guitar, like, how good are you?
Like, flamenco level or what? SHE LAUGHS
I was pretty good. I was a guitarist long before I was a singer.
I didn't know that. Yeah. I was a guitarist in a band...
What was the name of the band? SHE LAUGHS
Um, Long Haired Girls. LAUGHTER
Yeah, girls with long hair, and that was, there was nothing...
So it wasn't an ironic term? They were all long-haired girls?
Yes, we all had very long hair. OK, OK.
It's not a great name for a band. I know.
So, I've been talking to Luke, Rita writes a lot of her own songs,
Luke's entering the world of songwriting.
What's your normal writing process, then?
Honestly, um, it starts with...
If you're writing with someone new, it can be awkward.
It's like a first date. It can be awkward.
You've haven't met before,
and you have to establish some kind of middle ground between your...
You know, the vibes.
But alcohol really helps. LAUGHTER
If you don't drink, then I make people do some press-ups
or something that gets the blood pumping.
Wow, that sounds like a terrible first date.
LAUGHTER
So, you know, the exciting thing as well, though, since last we met,
there's been a huge change in your life, of course,
because you're a mother now.
I am. So, congratulations.
Thank you. That's a lovely thing.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE I made it, I made it!
You've got a son, and Arthur is how old?
He is a year and a half now. Wow. That's lovely.
And does he like Mum's music? Does he listen to your music?
Mm... Um... I think he likes it.
Initially, when he was small enough to not really know what's going on,
and I would sing to him, he would just sort of go with it
and just sort of make baby faces, and then, recently,
actually about two weeks ago, I... I sang...
So, recently, I did a Sting cover of Fields Of Gold,
and I sang, and I thought, you know,
he's sort of my friend, I can test things out on him,
maybe sing some things, so I said, "Arthur.
" # You'll remember me When the west wind moves... # "
And he 'gust went...
LAUGHTER
Ancl I didn't know that he... Wow.
That's the first time I've ever seen him
just do, like, an adult sort of action and I was like,
"OK, well, that's sorted that out. You're not a fan."
It's lovely. And congratulations again.
I'm so pleased for you. APPLAUSE
Now, we've all been through a big change in our lifetime, of course,
because now we have a king in this country.
We do. Which is quite something.
I believe you're quite friendly with Charles, aren't you, Luke?
You know Charles quite well. Friendly...
Got him on speed dial? Yeah.
You're friends with the King. No, I'm a Prince's Trust ambassador.
So I knew the King when he was Prince.
I've met His Majesty now...
King Charlie. King Charlie.
...many times, and he's just a charming man.
Very interesting. He is. He puts you at ease.
What sort of things do you chat about with him?
I mean, we've talked about a lot of things over the years,
but the first time I spoke to him, I was, erm...
I was super-nervous.
Ancl I had just finished filming Dracula Untold,
which I played Vlad Tepee, who was Vlad the Impaler,
who historically, fictionally, becomes Dracula.
So, he came up to me and he's like,
"So, what are you working on right now?"
Ancl I was like, "Well, I've just finished a movie about Vlad Tepee,
"who turns into Dracula."
And I thought, well, that will shut him up,
he'll be moving very quickly.
And he went, "Well, funnily enough," he said,
"I'm related to Vlad Tepee." LAUGHTER
Oh, God. Of course, of course. Oh, great, course. What?!
Well, he's kept that quiet, hasn't he?
Ancl I thought he was joking.
Ancl then I said, "Really?" He said, "Yes."
Ancl then he went through his lineage,
literally, like, 400 years,
or however many years it is, to Vlad.
No. Yeah.
You must have been there for hours. LAUGHTER
I think he jumped over a couple of the boring ones.
All hail King Charles the Impaler.
LAUGHTER
That's amazing. Yeah.
But the other interesting thing I realised,
and, obviously, I think many of us...
And I know it was very sad when the Queen died, of course.
And then you start kind of, like, adjusting to reality,
and I know this sounds very trivial, but I realised, of course,
that James Bond is now not
on Her Majesty's Secret Service any more,
he will now be on His Majesty's Secret Service.
That's right. And, of course, many of us hope
that the next James Bond might be sitting here now.
There's so many fine contenders.
We all love the idea of Idris doing it,
but we love the idea of you doing it.
And during the running, I believe. Is that...
Do you know? Are you still being considered?
We love that idea. We all love that idea.
SINDHU: We all love that idea so much.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Er, I don't know. I mean, you know as much as I do.
It's probably the best kept secret in the industry.
But you say I know as much as you do, but...
Well, I see the...
You know, my clad sends me an article and my friend goes, "Is it?"
Ancl I'm like, "I don't know." Have you spoken to anyone about it?
I'm not... Maybe, I don't know.
Everybody talks to everybody. We all talk!
You say everyone talks to everyone,
I'm not talking to anyone about being James Bond.
Trust me, if it was me,
I'd have been much better scripted than I am right now.
But you might still be, you don't know.
Who knows? I mean, what is lovely, you know...
It's just mad, 15 years ago,
I was earning 600 quid a week, you know, on the West End stage,
no-one knew who the hell I was.
15 years later, I'm in this small group of actors
from the British industry, you know, film,
and I'm one of those that they talk about.
If that's all it is, I've had a wonderful journey.
APPLAUSE You're so sweet.
I would love to see you as 007.
And it's just occurred to me, you know what's really exciting,
if you were to be Bond, this would be the first time
we had a Bond who could sing his own theme tune.
Hell' Yes! Yes!
Now, that would have to be part of the criteria.
Well, you know what, I might ask you.
I've got a microphone. Oh, here we go.
I wonder whether I can encourage you
to do a little burst of one of my favourites, perhaps.
How about a little bit of Tom Jones, a fellow Welshman?
I'm so glad you said it was Tom Jones.
I know. Th underba ll, right?
I'm not going to ask you to do... I won't ask you to do Gold finger.
I could do that equally as well, by the way.
Would you like to hear Luke sing Thunderball, ladies and gentlemen?
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
I've got the lyrics put on the screen for you.
SONG: 'Thunderball'
# His clays of asking
# Are all gone... #
CHEERING
# His fight goes on Ancl on and on... #
Yes! Oh, my God, OK!
# But he thinks
# That your fight is worth it all
# So he strikes
# Like Thunderball! #
HOLDS NOTE, CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
CH EERING AND WHISTLING
Yes. Amazing. The high note as well.
I nearly fainted doing that. Yes.
Yeah, that was amazing. And that was unrehearsed.
Wow. That note was so long.
So bloody long. LAUGHTER
Luke, the album's out now, ladies and gentlemen.
It's great. It's amazing.
And, of course, Ellie Goulding, as you know,
the new album's out in the New Year, of course, in February.
I'm lucky enough to have seen you live,
and your voice live is just amazing. Thank you, Jonathan.
But there were babies in the front row
all going like that. I know.
I don't know what they were hearing, but it wasn't the same thing.
The exciting thing is, Ellie's going to perform for us.
So let's say thank you to Ellie for being here.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Ellie, if you'd like to head over. Yeah. Thank you.
Thank you so much for coming back on the show. OK...
APPLAUSE
Thanks to all my guests tonight, of course.
Join me again next week if you can, where we've got a packed show
featuring Rio Ferdinand, Martin Freeman,
Danai Gurira will be here
and Little Simz performing in the studio.
Plus, we'll also special appearances
from Sylvester Stallone and Tyson Fury,
going head-to-head for the first time.
But now, with Let It Die from her next album Higher Than Heaven,
it's the fabulous Ellie Goulding.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
MUSIC: 'Let It Die' by Ellie Goulding
# Toxicity slippin' To my blood stream
# I give too much You suck the life out of me
# I fill my cup To drink you into someone else
# Ancl I blame myself
# And I had a dream That we were perfect for each other
# Sunset driving through the suburbs
# We're going further Then I hear a voice
# Ancl it says to me
# When did you lose The light behind your eyes?
# Tell me why When there's no more tears to cry
# Ancl you're holdin' onto love For life
# I think it's time To let it die
# Let it die # Let it die, yeah, yeah
# Let it die # Let it die
# If you lose yourself # Let it die
# You can walk away # Let it die
# Ancl I think it's time
# When did you lose The light behind your eyes?
# Behind your
# Tell me why When there's no more tears to cry
# Ancl you're holdin' onto love For life
# I think it's time # To let it die
# Not high for this Your heart's reached its limit
# A counterfeit Ancl now the lights are dimmin'
# I won't go back Spinnin' around under your spell
# On a carrousel
# Oh, I had a dream We were a beautiful endeavour
# Sunset driving through the suburbs
# But we go no further Then I hear a voice
# Ancl it's askin' me
# When did you lose The light behind your eyes?
# Behind your
# Tell me why When there's no more tears to cry
# Ancl you're holdin' onto love For life
# I think it's time to let it die
# Let it die Let it die, yeah, yeah
# Let it die # Let it die, yeah
# If you lose yourself # Let it die
# You can walk away # Let it die
# Ancl I think it's time
# When did you lose The light behind your eyes?
# Behind your
# Tell me why When there's no more tears to cry
# Ancl you're holding onto love For life
# I think it's time to let it die. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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