1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,295 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,015 WHISTLING 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,695 CHEERING 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,815 Thank you so much. 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,895 Thank you. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,495 Good evening, everyone, 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,095 and welcome to the Jonathan Ross Show. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,735 Let's have a look who's in my Green Room. 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,415 He is an England football legend 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,935 and now one of the best pundits around, it's Rio Ferdinand. 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,775 CHEERING 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,935 Looking good. 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,695 WHISTLING 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,895 And Wakanda Forever, 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,615 it's two of the stars of the new Black Panther movie, 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,375 Danai Gurira and Martin Freeman. 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,815 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,535 Along with them, 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,735 she's a stand-up comic, who is currently trying 20 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,495 to avoid getting the laughs on Strictly, 21 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,135 the very, very funny Ellie Taylor. 22 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,895 APPLAUSE AND CHEERING 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,775 We also have some amazing music for you tonight 24 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,295 from the BRIT award-winning - 25 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,255 and she is a phenomenal talent - 26 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,015 it's Little Simz. 27 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,255 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 28 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,255 And as if that weren't enough, 29 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,055 also on the show, joining us on Zoom, 30 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,055 in the red corner, it's two-time world heavyweight boxing champion, 31 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,935 the gypsy king himself, Tyson Fury. 32 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:19,655 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 33 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,015 And in the blue corner, 34 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,295 joining us from New York, 35 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:26,775 he's Rocky, he's Rambo, 36 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,135 he's Weaver from the film Antz, 37 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,295 it's none other than Sylvester Stallone. 38 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:32,895 CHEERING 39 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,295 It's a packed show. 40 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:36,375 But just before we get onto that, 41 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,575 here's one of my favourites stories from this week. 42 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,455 It's safe to say winter is finally here. 43 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,055 Many of us are getting a little depressed this time of year. 44 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,495 A lot people just want to get away to the sun, even pigeons. 45 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,815 If you've never seen a pigeon going on its holidays, 46 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,495 take a look at this. 47 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,695 APPLAUSE 48 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,135 Oh, dear. 49 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,455 Poor pigeon. 50 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,135 You can kind of... 51 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,895 You can work out the exact moment it thinks, 52 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:18,135 "I've made a terrible, terrible mistake." 53 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,895 Although somewhere a Ryan air executive 54 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:22,535 is going, "Hang on, why aren't we seating people on the wings?" 55 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,295 Before we get on with the show, 56 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,535 I just want to stop for a minute to wish Rio Ferdinand 57 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,455 a very happy birthday for this week. 58 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,415 It was your birthday, Rio. Thank you. 59 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,375 Thank you. 60 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,055 Now, I was gonna get the audience to sing Happy Birthday for you, 61 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,255 but I thought you probably had that kind of thing, 62 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,815 but I bet you've never had it sung to you by a dog? 63 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,615 No. 64 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:45,255 No, never. 65 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,855 There you go, this is just for you, Rio. 66 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,415 # Happy birthday to... # 67 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,855 Woof. 68 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,895 # Happy birthday to... # 69 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:54,455 Woof. 70 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,975 # Happy birthday dear Mom... # 71 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,415 Woof. 72 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,135 # Happy birthday to... # 73 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,415 Woof. 74 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,215 Happy birthday, Rio_ 75 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,015 From us and dogs everywhere. Thank you. 76 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,175 Shall we get on with the show, ladies and gentlemen? 77 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,415 Let's do it. 78 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,415 Let's get my first guests out. Will you welcome 79 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,175 Danai Gurira, Martin Freeman, Ellie Taylor and Rio Ferdinand. 80 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,815 Here they come. 81 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,295 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 82 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,655 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 83 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,815 Well, thank you all for joining us. 84 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,255 Let's start with you, Ellie, 85 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,735 because you're right in the middle of Strictly at the moment. 86 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,775 It's week eight. Week eight. 87 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,415 You're training every day, working on the new routines every day. 88 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:53,895 Don't take this the wrong way, 89 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,495 but are you surprised you're still in it? 90 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,535 How rude. 91 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,495 No, because I imagine you think, 92 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,295 "I just don't want to go out week one." You're absolutely right. 93 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,775 I put up to week three in my diary 94 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,535 and crossed my fingers that I could make it. 95 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,855 I'm absolutely astounded 96 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,775 that I'm still in at week eight. 97 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,175 Ancl I can almost see Blackpool, which is obviously 98 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,575 a massive thing in the Strictly calendar. 99 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,215 I can smell the fish and chips. 100 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,735 And how are you taking the judges' criticisms? 101 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,935 It must be hard to stand, when you've worked so hard 102 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,735 on the routine, you've tried your best, you're doing it live. 103 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,935 They can be quite harsh. I mean no-one wants to get criticism. 104 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,135 But let alone in front of ten million people, 105 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,055 when you're dressed as a shepherdess 106 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,895 after doing a Viennese waltz. 107 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,695 So I have suggested to the producers we get rid of the judges, 108 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,415 get rid of the eliminations. 109 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,255 We all just learn to dance, and after 13 weeks, 110 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:44,935 we get a certificate. I think that's what we should do. 111 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,975 I didn't realise untill was reading up, Rio, 112 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,375 actually, you were a very good dancer. 113 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,895 You studied ballet early in your youth, didn't you? 114 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,575 Yeah... 115 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,655 Where are we going here? 116 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,855 How good were you? I was all right, you know. 117 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,775 I was in the Central School of Ballet. 118 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,055 I had a scholarship for about four years. 119 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,295 So it was amazing. I got to travel. 120 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,775 And I loved it. It actually definitely contributed 121 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,215 to me becoming a footballer. 122 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,095 Would you have wanted to make that a career? 123 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,615 How close did you get to being a professional dancer? 124 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,015 Well, until my clad said to me, "We can't keep this up. 125 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,975 "You're going ballet, athletics, drama school, football. 126 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,815 "What do you want to be?" I said I want to be a footballer. 127 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:23,855 Luckily enough, it came... 128 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,775 You almost got into Sadler Wells, 129 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,415 the proper ballet establishment there? 130 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,975 Yeah, there were some productions that were going on there 131 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,935 that we kind of auditioned for. 132 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,735 I was on the route to stardom doing ballet. 133 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,055 But, can I ask something? 134 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,735 What age was this? Because you must have already been 135 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,735 a pretty good footballer at this point? 136 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,695 I was all right. I went to... 137 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,495 I was doing gymnastics 138 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,695 at the Olympics, funnily enough. 139 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,415 I'm so talented, it's unbelievable. 140 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,415 Oh, my God! 141 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,775 Makes you sick. This was when you were a teenager? 142 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,415 I was Sport Billy before Sport Billy. 143 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,815 Did it take you a while to stop doing the pirouettes 144 00:05:57,840 --> 00:05:59,375 when you were playing football? 145 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,935 If you'd watched me, Jonathan, 146 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,135 you'd know that was part of my game. 147 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,575 Big part of your goal celebrations. Yeah, exactly. 148 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,375 Danai, you also studied dance? 149 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,535 I don't know if I'd call it "studied". 150 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,975 It was a prerequisite to my... 151 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,495 training in New York City as an actor. 152 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,255 So, you know, we were learning everything 153 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:17,695 from the cha-cha to the polka, 154 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,295 because, of course, a black girl needs to polka. 155 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,855 So, the exciting news this week for movie lovers 156 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,295 is, of course, there is a new Black Panther movie out now 157 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,495 at cinemas, Black Panther Wakanda Forever. 158 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,695 We have Danai and Martin, who are both in the film. 159 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,855 Congratulations. And it's so much fun. 160 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,015 Thank you. What's the name of the character you play, Danai, in it? 161 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,495 Okoye. Or General, whatever. And she's a fearsome warrior woman. 162 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,935 Yeah, she's the head of the armed forces. 163 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,135 Presumably, quite a lot of training goes into that. 164 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,015 Because you have a lot of fight scenes. 165 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,615 Yeah, a lot does. 166 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,015 We come in early, before everyone else does, 167 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,415 and we are just, me and the army of women, 168 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,175 are just boot-camping. 169 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,575 And, you know, you boot-camp alone, and then you boot-camp as a team. 170 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,735 Then they show you your fights, and you've got to boot-camp that. 171 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,775 It's a lot, it's all the time. 172 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,775 It's so convincing on screen, so I imagine those skills, 173 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,975 do they serve you any use in real life? 174 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,735 I know you are not going out getting into spear fights, but... 175 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,935 But I've been using it actually for a very useful thing. 176 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,495 I live in New York and Los Angeles. 177 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,695 And in Los Angeles, it's the Wild West. 178 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,015 Straight up Wild West, tons of spiders. 179 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,055 Every spider you can imagine... 180 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,335 is in Los Angeles. 181 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,615 You know, I just came across... 182 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,775 Like, when I'm coming up and down some stairs 183 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,455 outside my home, 184 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,175 there's always a spider web. 185 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,175 The last time I was there, a couple of weeks ago, 186 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,055 it was... it was a black widow 187 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,015 on the stairwell. An actual black widow spider? 188 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,415 Yeah. And I didn't know. I knew it was bad news, 189 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,095 because it had the red thing on the back. 190 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,895 I was like, "That's not good." 191 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,415 And so I was like, "I need to not bump into it." 192 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,775 Obviously. But I also need to not bump into the web. 193 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,495 In California, you learn these things. 194 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,255 You bump into the web, the spider just somehow latches. 195 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,615 It just ravels up, and it's suddenly on you. 196 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:08,495 So now I use my spear to break the web, as I advance. 197 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,735 Then I have the Raid, we call it Raid, 198 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,175 I don't know if you have Raid. 199 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,255 I spray the Raid and I break the web. 200 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,935 Wow. That's how I get by. 201 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,535 I mean, that sounds terrifying. 202 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,375 Imagine if you're the Amazon delivery man, 203 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,975 and you see her wandering around with a spear, killing spiders. 204 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,735 He'd understand. 205 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,295 Yeah, he would do. Martin, you're back in the film as well 206 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,935 playing Everett K Ross. Correct, yep. 207 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,495 This is the third time you've played him in the Marvel Universe. 208 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,015 Yes, I played him first in Civil War, 209 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,335 and then in Black Panther, and then in Wakanda Forever. 210 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,215 Is it nice going back into a character 211 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,415 that you've already established, already worked as? 212 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,695 It is, it's lovely, it has a sort of familiarity. 213 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,015 I'm in the film a lot less than Danai is. 214 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,975 To be fair. No spoilers. Danai is in it more than I am. 215 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,855 You're in it for a good five minutes. 216 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,055 What a hell of a five minutes. LAUGHTER 217 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,615 OK, let's have a look at a clip. 218 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,375 This is Wakanda Forever. It's out now. Have a look at this. 219 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:01,775 You didn't think to call? 220 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,815 Now, why would I have your number? 221 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,095 HE LAUGHS NERVOUSLY 222 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,655 We are looking for the scientist who built the vibranium detector? 223 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:10,295 So, it was you guys in the Atlantic? 224 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,135 Come on. 225 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,295 Mining ship. A lot of casualties. 226 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,895 What happened? 227 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,335 Seriously? 228 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,175 It was a joint operation. Us and the SEALs, 229 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,855 30 of their top guys, two of our best officers, friends of mine. 230 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,295 Gone. 231 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,055 Just like that. You throw in the fact 232 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,935 that they were tracking vibranium... 233 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,495 I can assure you Wakanda had nothing to do with this. 234 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,375 So, who was it? 235 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,895 The way that this is supposed to work 236 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,535 is that I give you information, and you reciprocate. 237 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:43,375 For our own safety, we cannot tell you. 238 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,775 It's imperative that we get to the scientist 239 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,735 before anything else happens. 240 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,495 You owe me, Ross. 241 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,295 You owe my brother. 242 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,895 APPLAUSE 243 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:57,535 Wakanda Forever. 244 00:09:57,560 --> 00:09:58,895 APPLAUSE 245 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,135 I notice there, 246 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,975 there seems to be a sexual tension between the two characters? 247 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,295 I've been trying to convince Danai of that for three years. 248 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,095 Is that real life breathing into the film? 249 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,895 There were times in the takes I was trying to flirt with him. 250 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,495 And he was refusing to look at me. 251 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,255 He said, "No, I don't want to be caught in the web." 252 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,495 In the kind of web that you're dealing with 253 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,095 outside your house. 254 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,695 I'm gonna need my own spear, yeah. 255 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,135 I could see that... 256 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,415 He's scared of me, so I don't think it's gonna work out. 257 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,895 I could see a spin-off movie, where you both move to Wakanda. 258 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,775 I'd be very happy to start a new family in Wakanda. 259 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,695 Yeah. 260 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,695 I need to say one thing about Black Panther, 261 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,895 which is it's a wonderful kind of fun experience, 262 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,615 but at the same time there is a kind of... 263 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,975 There is a melancholy hanging over it, because, of course, 264 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,455 Chadwick Boseman, the amazing star of the original film, 265 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,775 died tragically young, and that's addressed in the film, 266 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,215 I think, in a very sensitive way. 267 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,935 Was it difficult going back to work 268 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,535 knowing that that had happened, and also deal with the legacy 269 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:55,295 of what he had created in the first film? 270 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,175 Absolutely. It was definitely... 271 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,695 We were all on a journey, really, of grief and the loss. 272 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,415 And so were the characters. 273 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,775 But we knew very clearly 274 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,255 from when Ryan said we are doing it. 275 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,935 And he was so clear that this is what Chadwick would have wanted. 276 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,135 And once he said that, we really felt that, 277 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,615 because he was such a generous soul towards his community, 278 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,775 towards what the story was doing for representation, 279 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,135 and for people. 280 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,935 We knew immediately that is what he'd want. 281 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,895 So then it was all about giving our all to it. 282 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,775 And that was kind of definitely 283 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,015 deeply the purpose that we had going through it. 284 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,935 And it was a very tough shoot in a lot of ways. 285 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,855 A lot of challenges were hitting us. 286 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,135 But it was just the determination that we had 287 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,775 really to hon our him and to keep his legacy going. 288 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,335 I just felt the absence of it, 289 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,535 when you don't see him on the call sheet, 290 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:43,215 and you don't see him around and you know he's not in the next trailer. 291 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,775 It was very strange. 292 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,855 It was a really strange thing. 293 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,895 Ancl I guess, like everybody, when Chadwick cited... 294 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,295 You might not have felt, but my initial feeling was, 295 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,095 I guess we won't be doing it again. 296 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,455 I just thought, I guess we won't be doing another film. 297 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,855 Ancl then we were. But that's amazing. 298 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,855 That's a tribute. Cos everyone was saying, can they make another film? 299 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,815 For an actor, for a role, which obviously 300 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,255 existed in comic book form, for him to have made it his own, 301 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,735 to that extent 302 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,975 that everyone questioned whether you could go ahead, 303 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,375 that's a real tribute to his kind of charisma and his skill 304 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,775 and his presence. 305 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,215 Well, as I said, it works as a big action spectacle. 306 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,495 But also it works as a tribute to him as well. 307 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,095 They didn't lose sight of that. 308 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,495 It's a really lovely thing to go and experience. 309 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,415 You've dabbled in acting a little bit, Rio? 310 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,335 Oh, my God. 311 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,295 I'm the fall guy. Am I the fall guy? Am I the fall guy of this show? 312 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,935 You're the most talented person here, apparently. 313 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,615 I know you're good at everything, 314 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,215 and I know you did a little bit of acting 315 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,815 early in your life. At school? 316 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,055 Yeah. You ain't got the clip, surely? 317 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,375 If we did have a clip of Rio Ferdinand 318 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,575 in Bugsy Malone... 319 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:48,775 LAUGHTER Yes, please! 320 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,175 ...would you want to see it? 321 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,055 ALL: Yes! 322 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,455 Rio, we have to give the people what they want. 323 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,255 How old were you when you were in Bugsy? 324 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,935 I was 12, 11. 325 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,495 12. 12, yeah. 326 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,015 And was it... 327 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,975 This was just a school thing, or did you think, 328 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,895 if I don't want to do the ballet or the football, 329 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,495 or the athletics, 330 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,135 or all the other things, 331 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,335 were you thinking about acting as a career? 332 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,175 Yeah. No. No, no. 333 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,255 OK, here you go. 334 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,975 This is probably for the first and perhaps last time on television, 335 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,975 this is Rio Ferdinand in Bugsy Malone. 336 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,815 # Tomorrow never comes 337 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,335 # What kind of a fool 338 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,615 # Do they take me for? 339 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,895 # Tomorrow 340 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,615 # A resting place for bums 341 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,815 # A trap set in the slums 342 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,095 # But I know the score. # 343 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,855 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 344 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,015 It's good. You can sing. That was lovely. 345 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,695 So cute. That was lovely. 346 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,255 Amazing. 347 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,695 We're gonna take a break so I can apologise to Rio, 348 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,895 but don't go anywhere, because in a few moments, 349 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,335 we'll be talking to Sylvester Stallone and Tyson Fury. 350 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,815 See you after the break. 351 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,455 APPLAUSE 352 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:12,135 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 353 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:16,295 Welcome back to the show. 354 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,575 Let's get my next guest out, the Gypsy King himself, 355 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,975 Mr Tyson Fury, who is up here on the screen. 356 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,455 Tyson, how are you doing? 357 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,295 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 358 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,335 Hey, Tyson, I'm loving the cap. Is this Peaky Blinders weekend? 359 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,735 No, this is the Tyson Fury look, seven clays a week in More cam be Bay! 360 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,015 That's why Tyson can't be with us in the studio, 361 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,015 cos you're currently training in More cam be. 362 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,255 I am. I'm training in More com be for my big fight on December 3. 363 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,055 I'm preparing very well. 364 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,015 Ancl I'm looking forward to a fantastic fight. 365 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,975 This is you versus Derek Chisora? That's correct. 366 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,175 And you're confident? 367 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,895 Always confident. I train really hard 368 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,855 and I sacrifice and dedicate, 369 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,015 so whatever will happen in the ring on the night 370 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,335 will happen, you know. 371 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,175 All I can do is eat, sleep, train, repeat. 372 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,895 Ancl the rest is in God's hands. 373 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,575 That's like my life, without the "train" in the middle. 374 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,695 But do you have your family there with you, 375 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,535 or is it best not to have them with you 376 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,095 when you're focusing on training? No. I'm in a training camp, 377 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,255 which means I'm away from my family for round about eight, nine weeks. 378 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,255 The strange thing about it all is, though, 379 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,615 is that these fighters, myself included, 380 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,815 we train for eight to ten, 12 weeks 381 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,695 for a fight that may only last 382 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,575 a maximum of 36 minutes with 11 minutes rest. 383 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,535 So, sounds ridiculous to me. 384 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,135 You know we've got Rio Ferdinand with us here in the studio? 385 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,375 And, Rio, you were on the verge of trying to take up 386 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,575 boxing professionally as well? 387 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,575 He was! Oh, my God! 388 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,335 You were, weren't you? 389 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,135 Yeah. Oh, my God. 390 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,055 Along with everything else. 391 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,615 Oh, man, this guy's taking the piss. 392 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,055 Oh, my God. 393 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,615 There he is, boy. 394 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,295 Were you a good boxer, Rio? 395 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,935 No, I wasn't. 396 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,015 I know you've spoken on the phone to him, 397 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,095 but you haven't met him personally. We're bringing him up on the screen, 398 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,295 because we're being joined, from New York, 399 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,615 by one of the greatest movie stars of all time, 400 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,535 and certainly at the very top of his game for the last five decades, 401 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,455 Sylvester Stallone is joining us. 402 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:12,655 Sylvester! 403 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,335 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 404 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,015 Hey, Sly, how's it going? 405 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,815 Yeah, it has been too long. It's going well. Going well. 406 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,175 You're in New York right now? 407 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,215 I'm in New York promoting Tulsa King 408 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,855 and just visiting the old neighbourhood. 409 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,895 I was born a few blocks from here, 410 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,495 charming name called Hell's Kitchen, so I go back there 411 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,495 to see some of the dead bodies and things. 412 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,175 How are you, 9W5? 413 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,855 I want to introduce you, by the wonders of Zoom, to Tyson Fury, 414 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,895 who I know you are very familiar with. 415 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,575 Tyson, there's Sly. Good to see you. 416 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,095 You spoke on the phone. Weren't you trying to encourage Tyson 417 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,615 to appear in The Expendables series? 418 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,855 I think he'd be fantastic. 419 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,935 He's a natural force of nature. 420 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,295 He has charisma, so why wouldn't we want him? 421 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,055 As long as he's on the other side beating up the other guys. 422 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,575 I'll direct him. 423 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,455 You went on record, Sly, saying 424 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,935 that Tyson's story was kind of like the real-life Rocky? 425 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,975 Yeah, but much more realistic. 426 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,775 Rocky, obviously, let's face it, 427 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,695 I'm not a boxer, I don't understand 428 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,495 the trials and tribulations. 429 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,255 It's a brutal sport and lifestyle. 430 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,135 Ancl he does it for real. 431 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,895 I do it, of course, in a fantasy world, 432 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,135 but I try to emulate, and try to get the essence, 433 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,695 just the essence a little bit of what it's like to have... 434 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,615 Be a pugilist. 435 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,255 It's as tough as it gets. 436 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,775 I'm just enjoying looking at you both together. 437 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,375 But even though you didn't box professionally, 438 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,575 you're saying, quite rightly, you're not a boxer, 439 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,935 you suffered a fair share of injuries making those movies. 440 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,535 Well, you know, I did. 441 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,855 Luckily, because I came around during a golden era, 442 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,615 and I sparred with Duran, 443 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,935 who literally turned me into Swiss cheese. 444 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,775 I sparred with Ali. 445 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,855 Joe Frazier gave me like 11 stitches. 446 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,055 That was in about two seconds. 447 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,655 Because I was thinking about using him 448 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,575 instead of Mr T in Rocky 3. 449 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,415 I said, let me use a real fighter. 450 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,335 Ancl I went, "That's not a good idea, 451 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:12,335 "because they don't know how to stop pulling their punches." 452 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:14,175 That's the whole point. They don't know... 453 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,135 They think, "Oh, I'll just follow through." 454 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,775 Tyson, could you pull your punches, if needed to, in a fight scene? 455 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,455 100%. 456 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,055 Have you never seen me on the WWE before? 457 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,295 Oh, there you go. There you go. 458 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,495 WHOOPING 459 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,135 Sylvester has a new series 460 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,535 starting on television called Tulsa King. Tell us about it. 461 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,375 I'm a Mafioso guy 462 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,415 who basically is framed for something. 463 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,295 Ancl I go to prison for 25 years, keep my mouth shut, 464 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,335 thinking that I'm going to be rewarded for my loyalty. 465 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:45,695 I get out and my reward is banishment to Tulsa. 466 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,815 Now, if you haven't been to Tulsa, it's like the dark side of the moon. 467 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,615 Ancl from that point on, I realise, cos he's 76 years old, 468 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,415 "This is it, I'm gonna die here. 469 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,375 "You know what? That's not gonna happen." 470 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,295 And he starts to build a new organisation 471 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,855 made up of all these misfits, 472 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,055 and that's where the dark comedy comes in. 473 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,135 Until now the New York Mafia wants to come out and take over. 474 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,375 But we have a surprise for them. 475 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,215 It's amazing. We'll show a clip now. To see Sly in action 476 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,375 in something like this again is amazing. Look at this. 477 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,695 I kept my mouth shut for 25 years. 478 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,095 I'm respecting that, with compensation. 479 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:21,295 Tulsa. What's Tulsa? 480 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,335 The horse race, the Springboard Mile. 481 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:25,935 There's nobody doing nothing. You can do whatever you want. 482 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,895 Not exactly the welcome I was expecting. 483 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,295 What crew runs this neighbourhood? 484 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,935 No crew up in here. You in the middle of nowhere. 485 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,455 What'll it be? I assume you don't have Chianti. 486 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,535 You assume correctly. 487 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,775 I wouldn't have pegged you as the Boy Scout. 488 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,575 I'll protect you from the gangs. What gangs? 489 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,375 You gotta know your risks. 490 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,615 There was no risk until you came along. 491 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,215 Final bullet clips or firearms? 492 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,935 In the box? Nah. 493 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,695 It could get ugly. Guessing you were in the Mafia? 494 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,575 Nah. There's no such a thing. 495 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,055 This a one off, or one of many? Too soon to tell. 496 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,775 APPLAUSE Come on, Tulsa King. 497 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,855 First episode is amazing, I can't wait for the rest. 498 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,655 So, Sly, you know, I'm surprised, though, 499 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,175 that you haven't played more gangsters in your career, 500 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,935 because it's such a staple of Italian-American movie stars. 501 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,935 This has been the bane of my existence. 502 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,775 I thought, like, all right, 503 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,575 I was born around a lot of broken noses 504 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,055 or wise-guys in Philadelphia. I get it, I understand how it works, 505 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,975 I worked in the clocks when I was 16, I get it. 506 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:42,015 So, here comes along The Godfather, I go, "Now, here I am." 507 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,615 They're casting 250 extras for "the wedding scene". Yeah. 508 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,935 So, I'm standing in the line in front of 200, I'm there, and I go, 509 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,335 "I'm ready, I'll do anything, I'll stand behind the cake, 510 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:54,215 "I won't bother anybody." 511 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,055 They go, "You don't look Italian enough." 512 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,695 LAUGHTER I don't like Italian enough? 513 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,615 I mean, I look like a plate of spaghetti, are they nuts? 514 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,415 LAUGHTER 515 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,575 Anyway, the way I love this business... 516 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,655 The way the business works, 517 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,575 I came back 30 years later and hired that casting director 518 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,015 and pretty much tortured her for three or four years. 519 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,575 LAUGHTER 520 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,575 Didn't you...? Am I right in thinking that in the seventies, 521 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,495 before they made the first Superman series, 522 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,815 you auditioned for the role of Superman? 523 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,695 Yes, I was gonna be the world's shortest Superman. 524 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,655 LAUGHTER A new concept. 525 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,175 I was gonna fly below the trouble. LAUGHTER 526 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,455 Plus, I don't look good in Leotards. At all. 527 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,655 The calves are too skinny. Too skinny. 528 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,455 OK, Sly, if you've got any time on your hands 529 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,655 I'm gonna recommend a book, 530 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,295 because we're gonna bring Mr Fury back. 531 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,535 Tyson Fury has a new book out, it's his autobiography. 532 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,775 This is not your first autobiography, though, Tyson? 533 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,135 No, it's my third book... 534 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,935 Wow. ..In the last four or five years. 535 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,135 The first one I made, I put a lot of... 536 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,175 three years into the first book and I was very unwell while writing it. 537 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:04,055 This book is more of a well-person's opinion and point of view, 538 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,455 and angle, so it's definitely a good read. 539 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,655 I'm just about to finish it me self. LAUGHTER 540 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,415 Gloves Off by Tyson Fury. And it is, it's very revealing. 541 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,055 You're very open and honest. 542 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,935 There's a lot of open and honest personal detail stuff in there. 543 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,975 My life's been an open book, and it's been a roller-coaster, 544 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,495 so I just keep journaling it all down 545 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,935 and giving it out to the public. It's a fantastic read 546 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,495 and have a read and see what you think and let me know. 547 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,855 I'll send Sylvester a copy as well. Sylvester... Now, let me say... 548 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,095 Jonathan, I've got to say, 549 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:38,815 I really think - and I mean this, Tyson - 550 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,295 I think you're the greatest heavyweight that ever lived, 551 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,855 and I'm a boxing historian. Wow. I studied this closely. 552 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,735 When you put together all your skills 553 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,535 and plus your heart and your ability to recuperate, 554 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,415 and how you can move around so well at your size, 555 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,975 there is no-one that could have beaten you in any era. 556 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,295 Wow. People go, "Oh, it's not true." It's totally true. 557 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,295 APPLAUSE 558 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,655 That's an amazing compliment. Thank you. 559 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,415 I really appreciate that. Tyson, not that you needed it, 560 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,295 but if you want a message to keep in your head 561 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,135 just before you step into the ring next time, remember that. 562 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,375 That's one for the memory book, that is. It's the truth. 563 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,335 I really appreciate it, thank you. It's true. 564 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,935 It is true, but then again, Sly, you've never seen me box. 565 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,135 LAUGHTER 566 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,335 Tell you're a boxer, but we won't talk about that. 567 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:29,295 Also, we've got Rio Ferdinand here. He can do just about anything. 568 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,615 LAUGHTER 569 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,815 Don't go away, we're gonna take a short break, 570 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,855 but afterwards we'll have more from my guests. 571 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,535 See you in a couple of minutes. APPLAUSE 572 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,895 APPLAUSE Welcome back to the show. 573 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,375 I'm still here with all of my guests, 574 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,575 including those who are in other parts of the world. 575 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,615 Sly, you were in a football movie, of course. 576 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,735 The amazing Escape To Victory. Somewhat maligned, but I love it. 577 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,135 And of course Rio is one of our greatest footballers. 578 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,055 Have you seen Escape To Victory? Yep. Did you like it? Really good. 579 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,095 Well, how amazing, because you talked about Ali, 580 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,855 you sparred with Ali, but also you've played football with Pele. 581 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,935 I did, and that was quite an experience, 582 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,255 because I thought, you know, "What's the big deal, guys?" 583 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,815 You know, in America you have this ego, 584 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,775 like American football is everything, 585 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,935 and kicking this other ball, nothing to it. 586 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,455 So, he goes, "I'll tell you what." 587 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,695 He goes, "You stand in there. You're supposed to play a goalie. 588 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,135 "I'm gonna tell you exactly where I'm gonna kick it, 589 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,055 "there's not a damn thing you can do about it." 590 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,815 LAUGHTER "Oh, really?" Now, remember, 591 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,295 this is a World War Two setting, so everything is old and dated 592 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,015 and I'm right behind the barracks with a mesh screen 593 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,215 where they keep the POWs. 594 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,895 So, he says, "I'm going right into that corner", 595 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,175 I stand in the corner, 596 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,375 and the next thing I know, my finger's broken. 597 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,415 LAUGHTER "Ow, God dammit!" 598 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,575 Ancl it went through, tore through the back... 599 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,575 Tore through the back of the net 600 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,495 and broke a window in the barracks. ELLIE GASPS 601 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,495 I learned my lesson, I'll tell you that. 602 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,695 Well, Michael Caine was in that movie of course, 603 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,455 and I know we have Martin Freeman with us. 604 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,175 A great actor. He was like your big hero, wasn't he, as an actor? 605 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,655 He was definitely one of the reasons I became an actor, 606 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,855 without question, yeah. 607 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,495 I absolutely always loved Michael Caine. 608 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,095 And when you met him for the first time, were you starstruck, 609 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,815 or did you tell him that? I was a bit starstruck, actually. 610 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,655 Yeah, I put my hand over to him, because Edgar Wright, 611 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,255 the director Edgar Wright, said, "Come and meet Michael Caine". 612 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,135 I put my hand out and said, "Hiya, I'm Michael," and I was nervous, 613 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,495 and he said, "No, I'm Michael, you're Martin." 614 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,895 LAUGHTER And, yeah, he corrected me. 615 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,255 And I was like a nine-year-old again. Yeah. 616 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,655 Sly, can I ask you a question? 617 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,415 I read this, and I don't know if it's true. 618 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,455 You made a lot... There was a period in the eighties 619 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,775 when you were broadening out and doing different things. 620 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,975 It wasn't just action movies, there were comedies. 621 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,375 And you made a film Stop! Or My Mum Will Shoot. 622 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,055 Oh, you know what... Stop already. Yes, I did. 623 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,215 LAUGHTER By the way, 624 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,135 I kind of love that film, right? 625 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,855 But I read that you only accepted it 626 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,535 because you were in fierce competition 627 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,735 with Arnold Schwarzenegger at the time... It's true. 628 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,735 ...and someone told you that he was about to do it. 629 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,615 We couldn't stand to be in the same galaxy together for a while. 630 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,695 We truly, truly loathed each other. 631 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,735 I mean, it was almost like coming to blows constantly. 632 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,895 Of course, I would have taken him, no problem, but... 633 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,335 LAUGHTER 634 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:19,775 We couldn't be around, especially during Planet Hollywood. 635 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,695 Ancl he's quite clever, 636 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,175 so he goes around town going, "I can't wait to do this film, 637 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,575 "I can't wait, I'm sure it's going to be incredible," 638 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,215 and I go to my agent, 639 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,775 "Get that thing away from him, no matter what. 640 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,655 "Whatever it takes, get people options on me." 641 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,895 So I got it, 642 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,055 and I said, "What a piece of shit this thing is." 643 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,655 LAUGHTER 644 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,055 Ancl he laughed and goes, "Ha-ha-ha", I go, "Yeah, laugh at me. 645 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,015 "At least I wasn't pregnant in a film, Arnold." 646 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,055 LAUGHTER 647 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,255 We're even. Yeah. 648 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,695 You know, I could sit and talk to you for hours, 649 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,855 but I suspect that you would find that less entertaining than I do. 650 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,615 LAUGHTER So, we're going to let you go, 651 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,295 but, Sly, I hope next time you're in town 652 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,615 we can hook you up in the studio, 653 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,095 and we all send our best to you and your family. 654 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:06,135 Thank you so much for joining us, and once again... 655 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,655 Thank you, and thank you for all of your guests and, Tyson, 656 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,295 keep punching, you're the best. Thank you. Sylvester Stallone, 657 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,535 ladies and gentlemen. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 658 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,175 TYSON: My hero. 659 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,855 Thank you, Sly. 660 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,975 So, Tyson. So, you're confident, you're in fine shape. 661 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,695 It's three weeks to go. 662 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,295 Does your training accelerate now, or does it slow down a bit 663 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,335 to make sure you've got reserves in the tank? 664 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:31,335 I've got two more weeks of sparring left 665 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,655 and then I'll start tapering down 666 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,535 and recovering, recuperating and getting it all back in. 667 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,495 One of the things I was reading which I enjoyed 668 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,095 was you talking about retiring. 669 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,295 When you retired from the fight game briefly, 670 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,575 then you felt that gap in your life. There was a hole in your life... 671 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,815 There was. ..so I imagine getting back into boxing has filled that, 672 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,375 but then obviously, inevitably, there's gonna come a time when 673 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,015 you do have to step away for good. How do you intend to fill it then? 674 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,255 You know, I suppose I'm going to have to cross that bridge 675 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,295 when it actually happens. 676 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,695 For four months I was in a very, very low place. 677 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,495 Even though I had a lot going on, writing a book, singing a song, 678 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,975 I was doing a Netflix documentary, 679 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,735 I was doing tours up and down the country, 680 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,775 but it still didn't give me the fulfilment that I get from boxing. 681 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,255 You know, cos Rio, he's very well-respected as a pundit, 682 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,855 is that something you'd like to get into, would it be more TV work? 683 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,215 I'm not really too sure what I'm going to get into after boxing. 684 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,895 For now, I'm just focusing on enjoying the latter end of me career 685 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,015 and taking it all in, you know? Because as a youngster coming up, 686 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,215 you take everything for granted and you think it's never gonna end. 687 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,855 When you get to like near 30, 688 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,255 you realise that you start prevention rather than cure. 689 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,895 You start taking more precautions in your older age, 690 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,255 and I found out that I never really took my career as seriously 691 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,615 until I got to around about 30, which was about four years ago. 692 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,455 Um... and now I'm like an ultimate professional 693 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,695 and it's a little bit too late, unfortunately, 694 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,015 because at 34... how long have I got left in the game? 695 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,015 Who knows, it might be ten fights, it might be one fight, might be two. 696 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,415 But the one thing I do know is I'm going to enjoy every second 697 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,015 and it's going to be electric while it lasts. 698 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,695 I think on that note I'm just going to wish you the best on the night. 699 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,455 You know which corner I'm in. There for you. 700 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,055 I can't wait to see you walk out a champ again. 701 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,255 Ladies and gentlemen, the fabulous Mr Tyson Fury! 702 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,495 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Thank you, Tyson. 703 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,615 Good night, God bless. 704 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,895 OK, Danai, were you sporty? 705 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,095 I get the feeling you must have been a sporty kid. 706 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,895 I was a good swimmer and I was a good sprinter, 707 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,215 but I loved swimming more. And are you still competitive? 708 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,375 If you were with friends, do you want to race them? 709 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,815 Yeah, I just went through a thing... 710 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,295 Um, my... A clear friend of mine who is one of my castmate's assistants 711 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,855 decided to challenge me, cos she saw me goofing around 712 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,055 and thought that's really how I swam. 713 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,415 Ancl that little 12, 13-year-old in me who used to compete in Zimbabwe 714 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,055 came out, and I was like, 715 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,815 "Let's go right now!" LAUGHTER 716 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,695 And who won? Ancl I whopped her tail... 717 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,895 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE 718 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,895 ...and it felt good. 719 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,295 I feel... That sounds so bad, though. It was all very pleasant! 720 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,535 LAUGHTER Well, you know what? 721 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,855 What's weird is, I know you wouldn't think it, 722 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,855 but Martin was very good at sports as well. 723 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,815 What do you mean, "You wouldn't think it?", bitch? 724 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,735 What you talking about? Bitch! You don't seem the type. 725 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,175 What is the type? 726 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,215 The type is like... like me. You know, like... 727 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,095 DANIA LAUGHS ..someone lean and ready. 728 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,615 But you were... I thought I was going to be a squash player. 729 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,575 Virtually professional squash player? 730 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,575 No, I wasn't a professional, cos I was still a kid, 731 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,815 but I thought that was going to be the thing that I was going to do, 732 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,095 until I fell out of love with it, and, thank God, found youth theatre. 733 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,735 But yeah, I was very good at all racket sports, 734 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,135 but particularly good at squash. 735 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,095 Ellie, any sports in your past? 736 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,375 I used to get shoved in the netball and basketball team 737 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,935 because I'm tall, but I went down in school history 738 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,575 as the only person to ever score an own goal in basketball. 739 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,335 LAUGHTER It is clever, though, isn't it? 740 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,615 That's almost impossible. Thank you. Thank you so much. 741 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,175 LAUGHTER How did you do that? 742 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,695 Well, because I got the rebound, 743 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,335 and I was so used to being yelled at, "Get the rebound!", 744 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,455 so I just got the rebound on the other team's basket and then scored. 745 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,535 LAUGHTER 746 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,975 just caught up in the moment? just caught up, exactly. 747 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,855 OK, you know, 748 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,615 Ellie has a new TV show starting, ladies and gentlemen, 749 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,175 it's called You won't Believe This. 750 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,575 10PM on Channel 4, starting on the 22nd of November, 751 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,255 and it's all about lying, isn't it? 752 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,735 Yes. So, it's like an interrogation game show. 753 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,775 So, members of the public come and tell these extraordinary stories, 754 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,415 but only one of them is telling the truth 755 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,135 and the rest of them are making up complete fibs. 756 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,895 So, me and a contestant try and sort of sit 757 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,775 and watch them be interrogated by real police interrogators 758 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,535 and try and work out who the truth teller is. 759 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,575 So, it's sort of like a mix between Would I Lie To You?, Line Of Duty, 760 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,855 and a bit of Gogglebox. LAUGHTER 761 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,335 24 Hours In Police Custody, that sort of thing. Yes. Yeah. 762 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,735 Let's have a look, this is a clip from Ellie's new show, 763 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,975 it's called You won't Believe This. Have a look at this. 764 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,815 You said it was a spiritual cult. Tell me about that. 765 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,415 The Society Of Higher Transcendence, and what they believed was 766 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,095 the only way that we were ever gonna be able to get true salvation 767 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,615 was to reach a level of spiritual enlightenment 768 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,335 where we were able to transcend off of this earth 769 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,455 and go into higher dimensions. 770 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,175 WHISPERED: Higher dimensions. 771 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,375 LAUGHTER 772 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,335 APPLAUSE There you go. 773 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,815 Looks like a lot of fun. 774 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,775 Martin, I can't have you here without asking, 775 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,095 and this might be a question you request me to edit out, 776 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,455 but I'm going to ask anyway. Are you going to do any more Sherlock? 777 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,335 To be truthful, I don't know. That's never a completely shut door, 778 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,335 but, erm... I don't know. 779 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,655 Personally, I'm a fan of things being finite. Yeah. 780 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,775 I like things ending. I think it's natural for things to end, 781 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,335 but I'm also a sucker for a good idea and a good script, 782 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,615 and if something comes up that persuades us all, 783 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,015 because it would have to be us all, then my door would always be open. 784 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,295 More recently, I don't know 785 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,535 if you've seen Martin in the TV series The Responder. 786 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,015 If you haven't seen it, I urge you to watch it. It's on iPlayer. 787 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,855 That's an amazing series. Thanks. 788 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,575 An amazing performance from you, but I would have thought tougher, 789 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,175 cos you're acting, but with a Liverpool accent... Yes. 790 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,335 ...and that must be quite easy to get wrong. 791 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,095 Yeah, I mean, it's one of those... 792 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,895 I mean, obviously all of us want to get what we're doing 793 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,655 as right as possible, but that's a particular city 794 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,015 where you don't want to be from here, go up there, and fuck it up. 795 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,095 LAUGHTER 796 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,655 You really, really don't. Ancl so it was really nice, 797 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,735 you know, some people thought I was originally from Liverpool. 798 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,295 It was lovely to hear that. So, who did you base it on? 799 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,175 Did you base it on an individual? You. What's your Scouse, again? 800 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,055 IN A LIVERPUDLIAN ACCENT: Ay, all right? 801 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,255 LAUGHTER It was that. 802 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,295 That wasn't bad. That wasn't too bad. 803 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,575 IN ACCENT AGAIN: All. right? LAUGHTER 804 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,935 Bit of George Formby. IN ACCENT: My friend... 805 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,455 I can't do any accents. OK, don't go away, 806 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,175 because we'll have more from my guests 807 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,935 and we'll be joined by Little Simz. We'll see you after the break. 808 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,495 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 809 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,655 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 810 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,375 Welcome back to the show, and I've still got all my guests with me. 811 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,895 Rio, let's talk to you a bit 812 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,655 because as well as your birthday this week, 813 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,535 you also received your OBE this week, is that right? Yeah. 814 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,255 When was that? Was that Tuesday? CH EERING 815 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,695 Yeah, thank you. Congratulations. 816 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:31,895 Yeah, thank you. 817 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,815 Who did you get it from? Cos you get it from different royals, 818 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,455 depending on who's working that day, don't you? Prince William. 819 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,655 Ah, top-notch. Yeah, I was delighted with that. 820 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,615 And what did he say to you? What did you chat about? 821 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,095 Cos you only have a minute and a half, don't you, or something? 822 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,295 He was a bit out of order, if I must be honest. 823 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,255 Really? LAUGHTER 824 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,135 Cos Aston Villa, his team he supports, 825 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,895 beat Man United at the weekend, and that was the first thing he said. 826 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,095 Wow. LAUGHTER 827 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,775 But no, it was great, great to see him. 828 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,575 I've been lucky to meet him quite a few times, 829 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,855 so just talking about family, really. 830 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,015 How his family are doing, how mine are doing. 831 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,575 Ancl I was just... 832 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,775 No matter how many times you meet someone like that, 833 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,775 of that stature, you still walk in there 834 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,775 and your knees are buckling all over the place, nervous. 835 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,015 So, you get nervous? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. 836 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,215 It's the future King, man. Yeah. 837 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:17,895 But you're Rio Ferdinand. LAUGHTER 838 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,815 But, you know, football, from a very different angle, 839 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,015 it's the subject of some documentaries Rio's made. 840 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,455 There's three in the series, I think. 841 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,335 Yeah. It's called Tipping Point and it's available now on Prime Video. 842 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,775 And it's a very different area that you're looking into. 843 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,175 Tell us about the series. 844 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,015 Yeah, it took us three years to film it 845 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,695 because we started just before COVID. 846 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:38,215 Ancl it's looking at three areas in the game - 847 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,135 sexuality, mental health and racism. 848 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,895 Three very powerful topics to go at. 849 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,895 You went to meet some of the fans as well, 850 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,975 who have very different viewpoints about things. 851 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,135 The crowd you met in Burnley, tell me about that. 852 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,415 Yeah, I went to a pub in Burnley, 853 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,735 and the guys in there had flown a plane over a game, 854 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,415 I think it was a Man City game, 855 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,535 and it was in the time when Black Lives Matter marches 856 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,775 and stuff were going on, 857 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,415 and they flew a plane over with the sign, "White lives matter." 858 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,375 And I wanted to kind of just understand the mindset of these guys 859 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,055 and kind of why they chose to do that. 860 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,375 Very interesting conversation. Some unique thoughts. 861 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,615 But I would urge you to watch it just to see... 862 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,215 It's an amazing documentary. I'm gonna show you a clip, 863 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:24,615 this is Tipping Point. 864 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,815 RIO: Why is football racist? 865 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,415 Why am I having to explain this stuff to my kids? 866 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,615 I'm scared to even look at my direct messages any more 867 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,815 because it could be filled with anything. 868 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,895 I'm telling him, "Yo, this is racist to me, innit?" 869 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,615 I've shut it down from the get-go. 870 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,335 Don't even make that a common word here. 871 00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:47,335 I did meet a lawyer and he said, 872 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,055 "Look, there's no problem you being gay, 873 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,335 "but don't ever go public while you're a football player." 874 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,455 NEWSREADER: Former Man City Academy footballer Jeremy Whiston 875 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,655 was found dead in his home in October. 876 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,535 His mum phoned me. I remember just being in the back garden 877 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,975 and just fell to my knees, just, I was... Broken? 878 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,855 I was a mess, yeah, I was broken. 879 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,855 We've got to talk to young kids who are going through this right now. 880 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,815 Is there a safety net for these players? 881 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,655 Is their mental health being looked at and addressed? 882 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,535 Or is it just a box ticking exercise? 883 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,015 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Amazing work. 884 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,215 What was the most shocking, or the most shocking things for you 885 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,695 when you began to look into this? 886 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:30,735 Well, in the mental health episode, we were looking at, erm, 887 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,215 young players going into the game, and a shocking stat came out to me 888 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:35,735 when we were doing the research - 889 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,575 0.012, I think it is, 890 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,215 percent of the 1.5 million children playing football in this country 891 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:45,375 have a chance of making it to the top in football. 892 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,855 That's so minuscule, isn't it? 893 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,455 If you think about any other industry, 894 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,495 you wouldn't even attempt to send your children 895 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,815 into that kind of... Against that data. 896 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,295 So it is crazy. 897 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,415 And it's gauging, then, how to treat the children going in, 898 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,695 because on the way out, 899 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:00,895 so many are spat out the other end of the system 900 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,455 ancl aren't helped, and then the mental health issues start. 901 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,895 It's really... 902 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,175 It was a great journey for me, educational, definitely. 903 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,415 You've got a 16-year-old, I think? 904 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,855 Yeah, a 16-year-old and a 14-year-old, boys, 905 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,175 they both play football. They're playing football? 906 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,415 And do they take advice from you? Do you coach them? 907 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,015 It's unbelievable, man. I try, I give them advice. 908 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,495 They're all right now, but a year or two ago, 909 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,655 I'm going, "Listen, you've got to do this, do that." 910 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,255 Erm... Don't listen. 911 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,175 Ancl then their coach when they was, like, on a Sunday team, 912 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,055 who's got no qualifications, 913 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,415 just does it out of the goodness of his heart, great man, 914 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,295 tells them, "You've got to do this." Ancl they do it, saying, "Dad, see?" 915 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,255 Ancl I go, "I told you that last year." 916 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,375 What about... Your daughter is... How old is she? Three? 917 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,735 She's nearly four, yeah. 918 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,535 So she must love seeing you in Strictly. 919 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,775 Yeah, it's like the first thing she's ever been able 920 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,255 to really understand, you know, 921 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,015 to watch any work that I've clone before, 922 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,335 cos things that are not appropriate that I've clone. 923 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,935 But now she thinks... 924 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,655 I said to her the other clay, "What do you want to be when you grow up?" 925 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,295 Ancl she said, "A ballerina, so I can come to work with Mummy." 926 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,175 She thinks I'm a professional dancer! Which is terrifying. 927 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,375 And does she understand that the partner...? 928 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,735 You know, you're dancing with a partner professionally, 929 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,015 who isn't your husband? She's a bit confused by that. 930 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,375 She does get sad that Johannes and I don't finish our dances with a kiss. 931 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,415 LAUGHTER 932 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,335 And she asked me the other day, 933 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,935 cos I've started sleeping in a different bedroom, 934 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,255 so she doesn't wake me up in the middle of the night, 935 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,095 and she said to me, "ls Johannes up there? 936 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,295 "Do you sleep with Johannes every night?" 937 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,575 I say, "No, he's at his own house, darling!" 938 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,015 She's heard of the curse of Strictly! 939 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,295 LAUGHTER 940 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,855 OK, I'm really excited about the music we've got for you tonight. 941 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,055 But before she plays us out at the end of the show, 942 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,055 she's gonna come and chat with us a little bit as well. 943 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,615 Will you please welcome out the fabulous Little Simz. 944 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,855 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 945 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,295 Hello. Hello. 946 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,695 Sit down. Thank you. 947 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,855 So, what should I call you? Simz, or Simby? 948 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,655 Or just Little? Or what? Yeah, whichever, 949 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,815 whichever rolls off the tongue. Well, which one do you prefer? 950 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,855 I'm good with Simz. Simz? 951 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,095 Yeah. OK, well, it's great to have you here, Simz. 952 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,615 Thank you so much for joining us. 953 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,015 So, you won... I saw you win the BRIT last year. 954 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,775 Yeah. And you won the Mercury award recently as well. 955 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,415 Yeah. How does that feel? 956 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,775 How does it feel when you get those awards? 957 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,215 How would you feel? Well, I'd be surprised, cos I don't do music! 958 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:31,695 LAUGHTER 959 00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:34,735 But I would think, about bloody time, cos I can sing! 960 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,295 LAUGHTER 961 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,735 But it must feel lovely. But are they important to you? 962 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,215 That's, I suppose, what I'm asking you. 963 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:43,415 Do you feel validated in a way that you hadn't before? 964 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,815 Or is it kind of like you knew you were doing good stuff anyway? 965 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,895 Yeah, for sure. 966 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,175 I always knew, like, you know, I'm on a... 967 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,895 I'm on a path to live my life in this realm 968 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,055 and, you know, perform to people and do music as a proper job. 969 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,255 And when it was announced, 970 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,735 where were you when it was announced that you won the Mercury? 971 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,015 I was sitting at the table, had my head down, 972 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,095 eyes closed, and then my name got called, 973 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,575 and everyone around me kind of stood up 974 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,215 and, er, my brother came... 975 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,655 I wanted to stand up, but my brother came round 976 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,375 and had me in a headlock. 977 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,735 LAUGHTER 978 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,055 So, yeah, I wasn't going nowhere for a minute. 979 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,695 Was that he was proud, or jealous? LAUGHTER 980 00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:26,015 No, he was proud, for sure. 981 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,855 He's been a rock for me. My family has been a rock for me. 982 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,615 So I think he was just really overjoyed and excited, yeah. 983 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,455 So, how did you start in the rapping? 984 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,615 When did you start rapping? Were you doing it as a kid? 985 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,575 Yeah, I was doing it as a kid. 986 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,935 Ancl I kind of just, I've always found it very easy, 987 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,615 or easier, to express myself through writing. 988 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,575 Even when I was, like, when I was young, 989 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,175 if I wanted to ask my mum certain things, I'd write it down, like, 990 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,815 "Mum, can so-and-so stay over?" LAUGHTER 991 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,415 I just found it easier to get my thoughts 992 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,015 and feelings out through writing. 993 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,695 Music was always played in my household, 994 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:01,215 so I think, yeah, it just kind of fell into my path. 995 00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:03,055 So, what were the first...? 996 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,095 When you were writing early raps, 997 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,975 how old would you have been that you composed your first kind of rap? 998 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,895 I was, like, nine, ten, yeah. 999 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,655 And what was it about? 1000 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,295 It was a song called Achieve, Achieve, Achieve, 1001 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,135 and... What, you want me to do it or something? 1002 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,255 LAUGHTER 1003 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,415 If we made Rio watch himself playing Bugsy Malone... 1004 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,175 LAUGHTER 1005 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,375 ...| think this is quite a small ask, comparatively. 1006 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,855 But no, do you remember it? Can you remember your first? 1007 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,055 Yeah, I do. It was... 1008 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,935 RAPS: In ten years I wanna be a performer 1009 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,575 That can entertain Ancl still remain to do good 1010 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,015 Things in life 1011 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,695 Without having to go through strife. 1012 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,095 That's it. 1013 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,335 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1014 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,935 And mission accomplished. Yeah. 1015 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,135 That's amazing. 1016 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,055 You know, I don't want to feel like we're always 1017 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,215 going to Rio this evening, but... 1018 00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:54,735 LAUGHTER 1019 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,575 We had Jamie Redknapp on last week, 1020 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,855 and he told me that when you join a new football club, 1021 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,695 there's, like, an initiation ceremony 1022 00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:03,415 where you do have to perform, 1023 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,975 and he did a rap for his performance. 1024 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,935 Was there anything similar in your starting at MU or anywhere else? 1025 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,015 Erm, Notorious BIG -juicy. 1026 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,415 Juicy? Yeah. 1027 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,935 I think, by chance, we might have the music to juicy. 1028 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,615 LAUGHTER 1029 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,815 Let's go. Let's do this properly. 1030 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,895 LAUGHTER 1031 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,415 Tell me when to go in, yeah? Give me the finger like that. 1032 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,015 Count me in, yeah? I'll back you up, I've got you. 1033 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,935 I love how confident. "just count me in." 1034 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,015 LAUGHTER 1035 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,055 This could go really wrong, just saying now. 1036 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,455 If it goes wrong. The mic just feels right, though. 1037 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,175 LAUGHTER 1038 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,295 Let's get excited. 1039 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,735 MUSIC: 'juicy' by The Notorious BIG 1040 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,495 You ready? Yeah. 1041 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,615 One, two, three... 1042 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,135 RAPS: It was all a dream I used to read Word Up magazine 1043 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,655 Salt-N-Pepa and Heavy D Up in the limousine 1044 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,055 Hangin' pictures on my wall 1045 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,575 Every Saturday, Rap Attack Mr Magic, Marley Marl 1046 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,775 I let my tape rock Till my tape popped 1047 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,415 Smoking weed in Bambu Sippin' on Private Stock 1048 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,335 Way back, when I had The red and black lumberjack 1049 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,535 With the hat to match 1050 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,095 Remember Rappin' Duke? Duh-ha, duh-ha 1051 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,415 You never thought that hip-hop Would take it this far 1052 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,615 But now I'm in the limelight Cos I rhyme tight 1053 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,455 Time to get paid Blow up like the World Trade 1054 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,735 Born sinner The opposite of a winner 1055 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,975 Remember when I used to eat Sardines for dinner 1056 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,535 Peace to Ron G, Brucie B, Kid Capri 1057 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,055 Funkmaster Flex, Love bug Starski 1058 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,455 I'm blowin' up Like you thought that I would 1059 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,415 Same number, same hood It's all good. 1060 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,575 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1061 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,695 LAUGHTER 1062 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,135 What can this man not do? 1063 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,415 I feel like a failure in life! 1064 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,655 What can this man not do? I bet you can knit, too. 1065 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,975 That was amazing. But also, that was long. 1066 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,775 I mean, it was like... LAUGHTER 1067 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,215 I thought you were gonna do an album! 1068 00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:57,015 LAUGHTER 1069 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,775 Thank you very much. What a great sport Rio's been tonight. 1070 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,495 Hasn't he, ladies and gentlemen? 1071 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,775 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1072 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,135 You know what, that's nearly all we have time for this evening. 1073 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,295 Will you join me in saying thank you to Little Simz, 1074 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,695 ladies and gentlemen? 1075 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:13,415 Thank you. You can head off over now. 1076 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,375 That was amazing, thank you so much. 1077 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,175 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1078 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,455 And so it just gives me time to thank all of my guests this evening, 1079 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,975 thank you all so much for being here. 1080 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,215 But now, with Little Q Pt 2, it is the fabulous Little Simz! 1081 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:32,935 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1082 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,815 MUSIC: 'Little Q Pt 2' by Little Simz 1083 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,695 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la 1084 00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:42,295 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la 1085 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,895 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la 1086 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,815 - la 1087 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,495 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la 1088 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,735 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la 1089 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,775 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la 1090 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,255 RAPS: I grew up in the south side Of that River Thames 1091 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,455 It's hard to think outside the box When you're stuck in the ends 1092 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,375 I had dreams of many things As a young'un 1093 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,455 I was 14 when the streets Offered tough lovin' 1094 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,255 Older brother went to jail Daddy weren't around 1095 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,695 No choice now but to be The man of the house 1096 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,415 If you're talking role models Nowhere to be seen 1097 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,295 You can't fathom what I think Till you've been where I've been 1098 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,935 PTSD from the roads Trouble was everywhere that I looked 1099 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,175 Hard to avoid it, even if I just Kept my head in my books 1100 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,975 There ain't no easy way out 1101 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,655 Drowning internally when you're Stuck in an ocean of doubt 1102 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,255 With all this uncertainty 1103 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,495 Lived being angry my whole life Like it's part of my DNA 1104 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,735 Ancl I couldn't tell you why 1105 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,535 Became something that we embraced Ancl we take that same anger 1106 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,575 Ancl turn it into someone else's pain 1107 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,775 Nothing's changed here The cycle still remains 1108 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,255 # Mama told me my sun will shine 1109 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,055 # We don't decide Everything in God's time 1110 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,735 # And when Mama told me I prayed to God 1111 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,215 # To walk with me My journey's begun 1112 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:55,535 See, my mama # Mama told me my sun will shine 1113 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,615 # We don't decide Everything in God's time 1114 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,575 # And when Mama told me I knew that I 1115 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,815 # Was strong inside But we all cry sometimes 1116 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,495 RAPS: Things changed when I had A brief encounter with death 1117 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,455 Thought the pearly gates opened When that knife was in my chest 1118 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,295 Not the mental scars The physical's all you see 1119 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,175 But the boy that stabbed me ls just as damaged as me 1120 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,375 I could've been the reflection That he hated 1121 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,095 The part of him he wishes God did not waste time creating 1122 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,095 The broken homes in which We're coming from 1123 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,295 But who's to blame when You're dealt the same cards 1124 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,055 From the system you're enslaved in? It's mayhem 1125 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,775 Imagine being in the hospital Wired up to the machines 1126 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,735 They told me I had been in a coma For two weeks 1127 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,015 But time is an illusion 1128 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,255 My mind told me I'm invincible But my body reminded me I'm human 1129 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,975 When you're so close to the heavens God shows you who's there 1130 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,175 Nowhere to be seen are the people Who say they care 1131 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,975 This must have been written For people who came to read it 1132 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,055 Cos life gave me a second chance Ancl many never see it 1133 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,055 Q 1134 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,095 Let's go! 1135 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,895 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la 1136 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,135 # La-la-la 1137 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,295 We eat from a tree Full of forbidden fruit 1138 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,215 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la la-la 1139 00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:03,695 Not about what you see But what lives in the root 1140 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:06,335 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la 1141 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,415 # La-la-la 1142 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,815 We eat from a tree Full of forbidden fruit 1143 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,535 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la 1144 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:12,615 # La-la-la 1145 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,335 It's not about what you see But what lives in the root 1146 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,375 HEY 1147 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,975 Like the sun in the sky 1148 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,095 Spread your wings, fly 1149 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,495 We're going # High 1150 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,975 We all know real criminals Live in the suit 1151 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,655 # La-la-la-la Like the sun in the sky 1152 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,255 Like the sun in the sky 1153 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,655 # Spread your wings, fly 1154 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,895 Spread your wings, fly, we're going # High 1155 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,455 # Ooh 1156 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,695 Like the sun in the sky 1157 00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:44,935 Spread your wings, fly 1158 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,815 We're going # High 1159 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,335 We're going high tonight,j Dot 1160 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,575 # Like the sun in the sky Like the sun in the sky 1161 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,095 # Spread your wings, fly 1162 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,295 Spread your wings, we're going # High 1163 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,215 # Spread your wings and fly 1164 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:14,375 # Fly. # 1165 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:21,975 Thank you. 1166 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,935 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1167 00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:29,415 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com