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And here we are in Minecraft,
on a deserted island.

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There's a few things we need to do
in order to survive the night.

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'Cause what's going to happen is that sun
is going to rise, and then it's going to fall.

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And when it falls,
that's when darkness descends on us,

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and that's when the bad things come out of the dark
at night and hunt me down and try to eat me.

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When did I first hear about Minecraft?

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Where was I when JFK was assassinated,
basically, kind of thing?

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My awareness of Minecraft
did not come from a magazine cover.

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It's like you hear it a couple times in the hallway,
and it's like, "What? What was that?"

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It accelerated so quickly, obviously,
that it's hard to recall that starting point,

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because after that, obviously,
it caught like wild fire.

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It's a very unique
success story, really.

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In the past, you know,
five to ten years,

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there's been some brilliant moments in gaming,
and Minecraft is definitely one of them.

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Happy New Year.

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Everything's, sort of,
happening at once.

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You have this very clear, like,
starting point.

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Yeah, I know, I took like a week off
during the Christmas and New Year's,

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and it was just, like,
almost emotional, like, kind of weird, like,

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"Oh, okay, all this has happened
and I haven't really relaxed until now."

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And then when I came back, the office felt really good;
and just; the first thing I did was work, like, 12 hours.

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Let's just start with growing up in Sweden;
what area of the country were you originally from?

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Well, the first seven years of my life I lived
out in the countryside in a place called Edsybn.

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It's like, a bit north in the country;
very snowy winters.

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At least, that's how I remember;
and really warm summers.

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We went out, walked around in the woods,
just getting lost, basically.

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And I did that and programming,
basically my two hobbies

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No, I've been programming
since I was eight, or something.

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I kinda always knew that I wanted to make games,
and I said so in school to my, like...

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...Career Counselor thing, and she said,
"Oh, well, that's probably not gonna happen."

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Yeah.

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That's what he likes to do, you know;
but he always made games, you know;

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I always found it interesting
to try out his games.

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And I was like,
"Yeah, you're a genius!"

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I like hanging out at his place, and he would like,
"do-do-do-do-do," you know,

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be on the computer,
and I like hearing that sound.

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So, but, it's very much like an artist,
because he has so much integrity in his work.

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Markus and I, we've been friends for the four
and a half years that we worked together at King.

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And we became close, and we had a lot of fun,
and then of course he had the success,

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'cause he left King to start--
basically he wanted to do games in his free time.

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And while we were working with King,
we were allowed to make games in our spare time,

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but we couldn't do it as a business;
and he wanted to try that.

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I was sad, of course, that he left,
because we had a great time at King.

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You know, I lost my best buddy,
my best working buddy;

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but I wasn't worried for him,
and we stayed in touch regardless.

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So I left to make my own games, and the first thing
I was gonna do was just gonna be, like a,

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six to twelve month project;
and it kinda turned into what Minecraft is now, fairly soon.

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But in the beginning, it was, I mean; it was so basic,
you can place blocks on other boxes or blocks.

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So yeah, I got to be there
and look at it from the start.

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Of course in the beginning, the world was more limited;
you had the edges; you would fall off.

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I don't think anybody could predict
the success of Minecraft from looking at it back then.

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I really liked the game from the start;
it's like a digital Lego, you know?

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You have blocks, you can build things,
and people are like, "Oh, this isn't so fun."

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You know, it's hard to explain;
I usually say, "Okay,

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but it's about surviving, as well;
you have monsters you have to fight,

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you have to build your house
and collect stuff to be able to survive."

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So it's a bit like being stuck at a desert island, like,
figure out what to do.

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Let's go to a place
where everything is made of blocks...

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...where the only limit
is your imagination.

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Let's go wherever you wanna go;
climb the tallest mountains,

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venture down
to the darkest caves,

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build anything you want,
day or night, rain or shine;

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'cause this is the most significant sandbox
you'll ever set foot in.

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Yeah, I usually tell people,
"Well, you have to try play it; you won't understand."

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To be honest, I really didn't understand
the power of the game in the beginning.

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I think at the point where Markus took me aside
at the office and said, "I really need to focus on this,"

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and he told me about the success, and you know,
what kind of numbers he had.

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Then I realized that this
is gonna be something big.

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At first it was 40 sales for a day,
then it was like, 10,000 sales a day, you know?

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I don't remember the date,
but when I had a million Swedish Crowns in the account...

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...was, definitely
one of the bigger milestones.

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And I got a print-out of the receipt,
showed Elin, joking, and jokingly said,

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"Well, they say the first million is the most difficult,"
like I didn't expect to make another million.

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I did.

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You know, it's been like this process
of constantly being amazed.

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Then like, early this year,
it got a big popularity spike on the site;

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but I probably need to start a company here,
'cause I can't keep up with the demand of the game.

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I called Jacob and just told him,
"Just quit your job; we're starting a company."

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With the success of Minecraft,
we get the chance to actually do something like this.

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I'm not gonna turn that down.

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So now we're seven people
and we have an office.

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It's a new year,
and it's finally beta.

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It's a very unique
success story, really.

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The problem is is that Minecraft
never had a publicity department, a PR department.

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They just did it all virally
and through word of mouth.

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And, you know,
it sold three million copies off that.

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If you are not familiar with this game,
this game is amazing.

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I love this game so much,
I've been watching a ton of videos on YouTube.

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I've been playing
a ton of this game.

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There's something really magical about
when it first came out, and nobody knew much about it,

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and we're all learning
at the same time.

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Have you seen this crazy thing?

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Look at this, look what you can do with here;
and people talking about it,

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and I could not comprehend
what they were talking about.

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I was like, "You did what in this game? This is insane.
I can't imagine it functions like you say it does."

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Let's talk Minecraft;
you've probably seen it popping up everywhere lately.

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If you have not played it yet though,
we're about to school you,

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because it's one of the best
gaming experiences out there right now.

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I remember loading it up for the first time,
and nothing; you're just standing there with two hands.

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And so I hit a tree and wood came out;
and I was like, "Oh no."

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Like, I could already see the spiral;
it was like, I hit this tree and wood came out.

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And then I, you know,
hit the ground and rock comes out.

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I was like,
"Oh no, this is gonna be bad."

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And then it's that first night
that you spend holed up;

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all you can dig out is like,
maybe four squares before it gets dark,

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and you just pile blocks up
as the zombies running around outside.

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That moment, like,
I won't ever forget that.

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That is a moment in video gaming
that will always be with me.

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And to me,
that was what sparked my interest in the game.

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Like, holy cow, this is--
I can do whatever I want here.

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And so that's the first part of this game;
which is, you know, exploring and collecting resources.

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People saw the potential in it,
and if you had the opportunity to play it at a friend's,

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or you saw a video on YouTube, for example,
I think the game pretty much sold itself.

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This is my house here, as you can see.

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All you do is you put it in the center here, like this,
and then set a fire to it.

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And not always, but most--
uh-oh.

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Uh, sorry, sorry guys;
this is not supposed to happen.

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Crap!
Oh, no way!

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Yeah;
you have got to be kidding me.

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You know, a lot of people
that saw those videos

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were instantly in love with the game too,
just by watching someone else play.

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Okay, it is time I go exploring;
where should I go?

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I'm going to climb to the top of this,
and I am going to see what is up there.

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I'm joining Stu, and we're in the Minecraft multi-player;
we're exploring the cave here.

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Uh, whoa!
Jesus, that scared the crap out of me!

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Oh my God, oh my God,
oh my God!

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Pull this switch here
and the flood starts.

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Plop, plop, plop, plop goes the wheat;
plop, plop, plop, plop, plop, plop, plop...

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...moves its way down here till it gets to the very end,
drops into my collection tray.

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Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit!
Holy shit bro!

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Dude you're so laggy!

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I blame it on lag;
damn it!

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You guys get--take cover!
They're firing arrows at us.

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Ahh, diamond, yes, oh!
Oh my God, there's more; yes!

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Oh my God,
seven diamond from one.

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What's wrong?
Ahh, what's that thing?

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It's a skeleton; I'll kill it for you.
I killed it, yay!

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-No, no, no, no!
-What's wrong?

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-You're jumping into lava!
-What do you mean?

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You're being so bad at Minecraft!
You're in lava.

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-Oh, man!
-You're dying.

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That's horrible.
I died.

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That's okay, Mom.
That's okay.

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And you know, this game
had a really special community around it.

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And I think that's a fascinating story that before
the magazines and the TV shows were covering it,

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there was a whole community
that was loving this game and supporting it,

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and it was really
self-sufficient at that point.

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So that could have existed, sort of, in its own little bubble,
but then the world found out about Minecraft.

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-All right, what are you?
-Creeper.

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A creeper?
What's a creeper?

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A creeper is something that blows up
when you touch him!

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Is that what you are?

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-Okay, you want to take us in?
-Sure.

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This is our fancy sign;
here we go, welcome.

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As you can see, it's looking really awful right now;
we're going to remake a lot of things.

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Yeah, I can show you around;
and here we are in the office space.

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We have a PC section
and a Mac section.

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We were thinking about having,
sort of, a Minecraft wallpaper here.

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So this is Jacob;
he's one of the co-founders of Mojang.

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Over there we have Jeb;
he's a game developer.

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He's sort of the first person
to dive into the Minecraft code.

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And so over here we have Daniel Kaplan;
he's the business developer.

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Exactly; and here he is, Notch.
I'm sort of showing them around the office,

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and you're Notch.
-I am Notch.

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-He's the reason why we're all here.
-Yes, I am God.

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-Yes, that's right.
-I am not God.

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-Did I say I'm God on camera?
-Yes, I think you did.

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I heard that Notch
was starting up a company.

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I played and heard
about Minecraft before, obviously,

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but I didn't know that he wanted
to take it to the next level.

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So I just sent him an e-mail,
"Hey do you wanna--do you need an artist?"

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Got a reply, we met up, and kinda hit it off,
I think, immediately;

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started joking about prostituting ourselves
to elder women and stuff like that.

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So that's it, really.
And now I'm here.

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It's also fun to be a part of this so early,
and really be with the core team.

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I don't know how big we are going to be in the future,
but it's fun to be here from almost the beginning.

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Well, I started here
two days ago, on Monday.

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I went in, signed the contract,
and started working.

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-Welcome to Mojang.
-Thank you.

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-Great; you've worked here for--
-I've worked here for four hours now, so.

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I've had--got 600 followers on Twitter since Monday;
I had a thread on Reddit discussing me.

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It's just an awesome place to be right now,
because it's like...

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...I catch myself walking down the street,
or just thinking it;

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you know, there's not a job out there
that I would rather have, that I would trade in for this.

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I hope he doesn't miss and hit the other guy.

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Punch his pal in the face
and they're all gonna fall and die.

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-Oh, you're going to hit it from the other side now?
-Yup, here we go...whoa!

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It feels really good, and it's very interesting,
what's going to happen.

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We're going to have, like a, strategy meeting day thing,
trying to work out what we're actually going to do.

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Let's do that again;
can we do that again?

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-Wow.
-That's awfully bouncy.

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We have to decide what actually, like,
the full version of the game is.

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That's kind of the first step, I guess.

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Then the next step is to do that.

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Minecraft's a very dynamic game,
and it's 'cause it's still in development at the moment.

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That means that it's continually being updated
with new stuff, and things are changing.

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Back in like the '80s and the '90s
when you would get a game on PC,

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or much more often, when you got a game on console,
when you got the game, that was it;

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game was done, game wasn't gonna change;
and we've seen that change bit by bit.

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And certainly it's happened more on PC
where people can patch and update games,

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but I think none of that prepared anybody
for how malleable and evolving Minecraft was gonna be;

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I mean, to the point
that you could buy the game, ultimately,

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more than a year before
it was actually going to be finished,

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and play the game as the creators
were updating the game.

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And then slowly but surely,
it kind of, you know,

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built attention and anticipation
about where it was gonna go.

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So this is just like, the major headline;
some things we should add now.

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Yeah, I think it's a bit like--
it's a weird way of making a game.

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You just put it out and kind of
keep working on it as you're making it,

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so it's kind of hard to say
is it released, or it's not released?

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I try to make sure it's like,
yeah, this is not the game.

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I'm just working on it and you can play it
while I'm making it.

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Kind of, hopefully.

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Should we go up with the dates, or should we just say this
will be released when it's done?

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Or should we like, try to put up a date
and try to build hype?

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I think date and hype;
I vote for that.

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I think there's a difference between this and many other
games in that Minecraft has so many...

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...so many users and so many players already;
and as we develop these things,

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we're gonna--we're not gonna develop in, like,
in a lump and just put them all overnight and say,

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"Okay, play this game, and now it's done."
It's gonna come, you know--

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every other week or so
it's gonna be small update or a small change,

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so can we really live up
to a hype, you know?

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This is finally the finished product, and I said,
"Yeah, but it's the same product as last week."

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What do you think of that?

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It is--it's a bit intimidating, yeah.
I felt much more, just confident,

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just going day to day
and just doing things as it went.

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I don't think that works though,
if you have a company.

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I'm a bit like--I don't really know
what Minecraft final will be yet,

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but I think we kind of got
some kind of rough estimate, I think.

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-The new roadmap.
-Yes.

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We probably missed a bunch of things,
but I think this is a good basis.

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-Oh, there they are.
-They want to film us eating the muffins.

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Since we sort of missed it,
could you just explain what happened with the IGF today?

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Yeah, they announced the IGF finalists,
and Minecraft got in three categories:

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it was the main prize,
technical excellence, and design.

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So the main one, the grand one,
technical, and design; which is really cool.

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You know, Markus, when he e-mailed me,
he said, you know,

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"I'm hoping to win
some Independent Game Awards."

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And he didn't really know what all these awards were,
but it was sort of a big trip to America;

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really to, you know, meet the press,
and meet the industry for the first time.

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And yeah, I think everyone then was starting to realize
that Minecraft wasn't some fluke,

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it wasn't, you know, something
that was kind of coming and going.

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It was building, and it was growing;
and that's what was great about it.

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It's this virus
that was starting to spread.

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-Hey, nice heads.
-Thank you; I have to say, it's an honor to meet you.

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-Yeah, thank you.

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-Hi.
-We're from high school.

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-We just came here to meet everyone and see--
-Oh, cool, hi.

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-It's so amazing to meet you.
-We all play Minecraft.

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-Hi, it's an honor to meet you.
-You too.

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-Man, you inspire us.
-Oh, cool, awesome.

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-I gotta shake your hand one more time.
-Oh, of course.

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-Notch.
-Hi.

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-Pleasure to meet you; my name is John.
-Hi John.

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-I was wondering if you could sign this for me?
-Absolutely.

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-My name is Marie.
-I'm Markus.

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It's amazing, and, I spend so much hours on it,
I can't believe I'm meeting you.

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-Oh, cool.
-It's so fantastic, but um--congratulations.

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Well, thank you.

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-Hello.
-Hi.

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Hello, how are you?

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And it's fascinating to me
to see that happen, and you know,

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see someone like him show up at GDC,
not knowing what to expect,

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and then just have this constant deluge of people
coming up to him, saying, "I love the game."

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You know, that's when I think it probably really hit him,
that, you know, Minecraft had grown...

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...into something that people weren't just playing;
it was something that people were loving.

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-Should we go on?
-Yeah, yeah.

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Going back to what we talked earlier about...

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How many new friends have you made
since you became successful?

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How many relatives that come out of the woodwork?
How many lost cousins?

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I probably shouldn't answer that.

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So I only really just met you, but you seem
exceptionally cheerful, a cheerful man.

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You just seem a happy man, and I'm wondering
if that is because of your success.

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Are you always
kind of quite chippy and--?

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-Jacob has known me for a long time.
-No, he's a total drag.

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No he's not.

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Yeah, I hope so, I try to feel so, but I still have
this kind of weird feeling that I don't really belong,

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and I think it's called, actually,
"The Imposter Syndrome."

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It's like an actual term for it,
if you're like, you're just faking it.

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And I think it's gone too fast or something,
so I don't really feel like--

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But yeah, I'm slowly trying to realize
that people actually do like the game;

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which is kind of a weird thing to say,
but when you're just sitting in front of your computer...

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...and you just see the numbers,
it's not the same thing as actually meeting the people.

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Do you feel like you'll need to do a couple more games
to really feel confident in your own ability?

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Yeah, I think so.

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It's kind of weird; when I kind of grew up,
famous people, to me, like John Carmack and stuff,

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were not really like,
actual people.

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They were like forces of nature, almost,
that just did awesome things.

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And now people tell me, like--
not everyone, but some people say, like,

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"Yeah, you're the Carmack of this generation."
And to me, that's--

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there's no way that can be true,
'cause that guy is...

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...well, obviously, very talented in what he does;
and I just made a game.

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And I kind of realize that on the surface
it sounds like the same thing--

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he made a game, I made a game--
but it doesn't really feel like it's the same thing.

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I kind of feel that all the time,
with the success of Minecraft;

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it's kind of hard to fully understand it,
even to this day.

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I mean, we're starting to see it because
we get so much feedback

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and so many questions from big companies,
and people want to do business with and stuff,

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so we're starting to grasp that.

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I'm constantly thinking that maybe
this is just a really fragile thing;

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that we have this attention now,
but we have no idea where we're gonna be in one year.

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I mean, on one hand, it would be kinda cool to have
this kind of run, and then kinda slide into obscurity again.

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I'll be like, nobody,
and just do my own thing again.

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I think everyone feels
a bit like that, more or less,

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and maybe some people don't even know
how to express that feeling.

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But, you know, he's very, you know,
aware of his own feelings.

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So I think it's just that he knows how to express that,
because I can recognize that from, you know,

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when he started a new job, or, you know,
people say you're good and this or that,

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and he's like, "Oh, they don't know,"
you know?

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And really, just, you know, been lucky,
or this or that, you know?

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I think that's just human.

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Everybody, welcome to an all-new Bonus Round.
I'm Geoff Keighley,

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this week, at the Game Developers Conference,
and this time,

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we're gonna look
at the independent game scene.

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There've been some amazing indie games
have come out over the past few years.

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We've got an all-star panel to tell us about
what's going on in the independent games movement.

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Although Minecraft,
you're a bit of a rock star right now,

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Markus, with the success of Minecraft,
and all your fans out there.

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How do you look at the indie movement,
'cause you've really sort of entered the scene here,

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you know, in the past year in a big way, with Minecraft.
How do you define indie?

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Yeah, for me, I think indie is--
well, there's a lack of a label for it;

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it's kind of a concept of people
making games for the sake of making games,

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or exploring games
as an art form, perhaps.

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I think a lot of the large studios make games
to make money, or make games to make a sequel,

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or to make a brand; but to make games
just for the sake of making a game.

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Coming from that angle,
I think that's kind of the definition of "indie" for me.

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We're gonna get a little philosophical,
because in my opinion, games have the potential to be,

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what I call, the preeminent art form
of the 21st century,

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sort of in the way that film was in some sense
the preeminent art form of the 20th century.

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I figure we're about where film was in 1905;
whereas you think about it, in 1896,

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they first filmed Fred Ott sneezing, and like,
"Oh my gosh, it's a guy sneezing, I can play it back!"

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But it was a long time between then
and "Birth of a Nation" in 1915 or 1917,

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where it's kind of the first quote-unquote,
modern film, where, you know, hey,

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they didn't realize early on that you could film a movie
in a different sequence than you showed it;

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like the concept of editing;
they had to figure that out.

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They couldn't move the--they didn't know
you could move the camera, all of these things.

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And so I feel like we're really,
really early in games, but I think they have the potential.

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I mean, the way people interact with art entertainment,
whether it's music, or film,

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or literature, any of these things,
is primarily at an emotional level.

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The emotions that we support as games
is basically power fantasy right now;

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whereas if I asked you to like, you know, make a game
about two people falling in love, you'd be like...

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...I have no idea how--
there's no way to approach that problem;

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we just don't have any idea.
And I think you see this in Minecraft, which is like--

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the thing everybody mentions
is the huge component of it,

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but then the game play that everyone talks
about is just surviving the first night.

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Like, that's the magical thing that people talk about,
and that is a very human-scale thing.

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You're not saving the world;
you're just trying not to die.

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-It's very official.
-Oh yeah.

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-Ready.
-All right, thanks guys.

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-Yeah, it was good.
-Awesome.

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-What about you guys?
-Yeah, it was good, thank you.

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Ladies and gentlemen, the Game Developers Choice
Awards will begin in a few minutes.

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We ask that you please
take your seats.

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Video games...

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...video game award shows.
Which came first?

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In the early days of the games industry,
it really felt different than it did now.

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Mostly it felt isolated, 'cause the Internet was not around;
so you just knew the people at your company,

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and if you're, you know, lucky, you made friends
at the Game Developers Conference;

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it was like the only time during the year you'd see
other people who had the same problems as you,

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or, you know,
were in the same boat as you were.

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So it was a lot more--kind of like islands,
like people making games...

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...were on their own island making their game,
and then you put it out there...

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...and you'd wait for a magazine review to come in,
and that was your feedback, you know?

364
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But now it's like
everything is so instant.

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You put a game--you can put an unfinished game
up on the Internet, for example.

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But that would be crazy;
who would do that?

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-Best Downloadable Game goes to Minecraft.
-Thank you.

368
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And the Innovation Award goes to Minecraft.

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And the Choice Awards for the Best Debut Game
goes to Minecraft.

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Yeah, GDC, I didn't expect us
to win in anything;

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I didn't dare, even hoping, that there was just--

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well, I kind of had this, "I hope at least, something,
or I'm gonna cry."

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Then we won like, five awards,
which was way beyond what I even dared hoping.

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We started figuring it out when
we got to the center front table,

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something big was gonna happen,
but I still didn't dare counting on it;

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but then we won just a bunch of awards,
and it was just ecstatic, and we didn't know what to do.

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It's still, like,
the biggest night of my life.

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Please join me in honoring
Creative Director of Microsoft Game Studios Europe,

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and co-founder of both Bullfrog Productions
and Lionhead Studios, Peter Molyneux.

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I never believed,
never in my wildest dreams did I believe...

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...that I would be standing out here
and getting a Lifetime Achievement Award.

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The very moment I first saw Minecraft,
the very second I first saw it, it was like a--

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it was like, you know,
the world changed for me a little bit.

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What I did immediately;
I went 'round to everyone and said,

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"Oh, you gotta go and play Minecraft;
you've got to look at this game."

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And a lot people, a lot of my colleagues,
you know, Lionhead and Microsoft,

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they looked at it, and--
some people looked at it and said,

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"This is ridiculous. Where's the tutorial,
where's the challenges, where's the--?"

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00:33:36,041 --> 00:33:44,208
You know, there's this list of game must-haves;
and Minecraft broke every single one of those formulas.

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You know, it is like--it is, in a way,
a social Lego, when Lego used to be a creative toy;

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which I don't think it is so much anymore,
because it's much more prescriptive.

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It's really interesting how Lego at the moment
is like traditional games design:

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it's buy the box, open the box,
turn to the instruction sheet, make the model,

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stick it on the shelf,
buy the next box.

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That's exactly like traditional game design, you know:
buy the game, go through the challenges,

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finish the challenges, stick it on the shelf,
buy the next game;

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where Lego used to be just a big box of bricks,
and you used to take the bricks,

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pour them on the carpet, and then make stuff;
and that's exactly what Minecraft is.

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There was no instruction booklet;
but that's really what this points to,

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is just how conventional game studios, how complacent
they were with the games that they were making.

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And we need, this industry desperately needs
things like Minecraft to come along and say,

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slap us 'round the face and say,
"Hang on a second. All those things...

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...that you thought were absolutely certain in your life?
They're not certain anymore."

404
00:35:16,542 --> 00:35:18,208
Definitely grown;
I think we all are.

405
00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:24,750
I mean, it's an experience that I think very few people
will ever experience, you know.

406
00:35:24,792 --> 00:35:29,000
There are few companies in the world
that have experienced this kind of growth.

407
00:35:29,041 --> 00:35:36,291
It's very inspiring.

408
00:35:36,333 --> 00:35:45,333
So we're kind of trying to figure out exactly what
we're gonna do with the company now.

409
00:35:45,375 --> 00:35:48,375
Okay, so, we've discussed this before--

410
00:35:55,875 --> 00:35:58,041
I think as soon as--

411
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,125
I sometimes find it hard to concentrate.

412
00:36:07,125 --> 00:36:14,291
I don't think we have the grand master plan
of world domination; this seems fun now, let's go for it.

413
00:36:14,333 --> 00:36:16,083
And I think that's great.

414
00:36:27,291 --> 00:36:29,959
If I would have been Markus,
I would have, you know,

415
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,792
doing blow off hookers' asses;
that's what I've been telling people.

416
00:36:33,834 --> 00:36:38,875
But seeing how he still remains
so humble and grounded in reality,

417
00:36:38,917 --> 00:36:43,041
that's extremely reassuring
for someone like me, you know?

418
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,417
I'm very pleased.

419
00:36:58,375 --> 00:36:59,625
Good.

420
00:37:10,208 --> 00:37:12,708
-Oh, hello Notch.
-Hello.

421
00:37:31,583 --> 00:37:37,333
We had a great party on Thursday,
celebrating two million.

422
00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:39,250
Do you want to sum it up?

423
00:37:39,291 --> 00:37:41,667
I was just gonna ask if it was good,
'cause I don't remember it.

424
00:37:41,708 --> 00:37:44,583
Oh, okay, yeah.
Anyone else?

425
00:37:44,625 --> 00:37:47,875
Cocaine's one helluva drug.

426
00:37:47,917 --> 00:37:52,458
I'm really envious of the new crop
of game-makers out there, like Markus and other people,

427
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:57,417
who are just doing it themselves; like all by themselves,
with maybe with one or two people on their team;

428
00:37:57,458 --> 00:38:03,500
'cause they keep the cost down, they can self-publish,
and they've just made so much more money.

429
00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:06,250
That's the secret; when you take
someone else's money to make your game,

430
00:38:06,291 --> 00:38:10,250
you have to give them
all your money after you're done.

431
00:38:10,291 --> 00:38:11,750
Not that I'm bitter.

432
00:38:11,792 --> 00:38:21,041
I think we all want to stay small, and we want to
stay in control, and we want to stop the world looking in;

433
00:38:21,083 --> 00:38:24,542
it's very, very, very,
very hard to do so.

434
00:38:24,583 --> 00:38:29,583
I mean, I think the perfect size for me
is once you reach over 20 people,

435
00:38:29,625 --> 00:38:32,750
that's when it gets really tough;
because then you need to have...

436
00:38:32,792 --> 00:38:37,291
...another layer of people
to manage the people that are there.

437
00:38:37,333 --> 00:38:42,500
And when you can all fit in one office,
and you can stick your head up and say,

438
00:38:42,542 --> 00:38:47,750
"Oh, what's that you're working on?" or,
"Look at this everybody," that's a perfect size.

439
00:38:47,792 --> 00:38:50,708
But once you get over that,
it's really tough.

440
00:38:50,750 --> 00:38:56,458
So if I was doing it all again,
I would say exactly what Markus is saying;

441
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:58,667
I would say, "I'm gonna stay small."

442
00:38:58,708 --> 00:39:07,458
I don't want, like, a big office with like, 150 people;
it kind of turns into a 9-5 job.

443
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:13,166
I would say I'm afraid of doing what Id Software did,
but I'm not gonna say that,

444
00:39:13,208 --> 00:39:15,708
'cause that's rude
against Id Software.

445
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:20,583
But I mean, their games
aren't as fun as they used to be.

446
00:39:20,625 --> 00:39:21,625
I mean, they look better.

447
00:39:21,667 --> 00:39:27,458
I mean, the MegaTexture stuff is really amazing,
but I'd rather play a fun game.

448
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:31,458
And I want us to make fun games,
not just big production games.

449
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:37,166
Ideally for me, it would just be like,
me and a box of Red Bull.

450
00:39:37,208 --> 00:39:41,959
I'm gonna play dark ritual,
get some--two cultists.

451
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,500
And someone could, like, discard--
you could discard this.

452
00:39:46,542 --> 00:39:48,750
Yeah, I will next time, yeah.

453
00:39:53,959 --> 00:39:58,041
-What's the next big event coming up, E3?
-Yeah;

454
00:39:58,083 --> 00:39:59,834
We have the E3,
which is basically,

455
00:39:59,875 --> 00:40:05,959
not for indie game developers at all;
it's just about spending money, and launching titles.

456
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,291
I have to go, apparently.

457
00:40:08,333 --> 00:40:13,375
I mean, it's a cool trip
and I really like going to the E3, but I kinda want to code.

458
00:40:21,125 --> 00:40:24,959
Oh cool! That's why I--
that's why I recognize you.

459
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,917
I was like, do I know him?
I think I know you, what's happening?

460
00:40:32,166 --> 00:40:34,917
To ensure we can accommodate
everyone's carry-on baggage,

461
00:40:34,959 --> 00:40:37,708
please place smaller items
under the seat in front of you...

462
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:41,041
...and larger items
in the overhead bins above your row.

463
00:40:54,792 --> 00:41:02,083
Yeah, we started the podcast in 2010,
in October, 2010.

464
00:41:02,125 --> 00:41:06,500
This is maybe about a month
after we actually started playing the game.

465
00:41:06,542 --> 00:41:09,458
So in a month's time,
we knew it was something special enough...

466
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:15,333
...that we wanted to devote our lives to talking about,
and to producing a show.

467
00:41:15,375 --> 00:41:19,375
So we did know it was going to be
something big and something special.

468
00:41:19,417 --> 00:41:22,625
And I forgot what you asked already.

469
00:41:22,667 --> 00:41:26,291
This is for people who don't know;
this is where what we've been doing...

470
00:41:26,333 --> 00:41:29,208
...over the past week
since the last episode.

471
00:41:29,250 --> 00:41:33,959
But I've also been watching my son play Minecraft,
which has been fascinating, because--

472
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:41,792
Like the Shaft podcast guys, for example, I'm like,
"Wow, this is more than an hour just about Minecraft."

473
00:41:41,834 --> 00:41:48,333
It still blows my mind; it's like, wow,
they're actually just talking about this game.

474
00:41:48,375 --> 00:41:50,417
It's amazing.

475
00:41:50,458 --> 00:41:54,083
So this is from Nergock who said,
"I have to thank you guys for suggesting...

476
00:41:54,125 --> 00:41:59,500
...listening to a book while playing Minecraft.
It's greatly improved my Minecraft enjoyment..."

477
00:41:59,542 --> 00:42:05,625
And we try to be on time, never skip one;
except we missed one episode...

478
00:42:05,667 --> 00:42:11,125
...because tornadoes ripped up our city;
but that was the one we missed.

479
00:42:11,166 --> 00:42:16,625
And honestly, when that happened,
the community got together, and,

480
00:42:16,667 --> 00:42:22,542
awesome girls, too, Tory Love pulled all this information
from the community and basically--

481
00:42:22,583 --> 00:42:28,125
it was an appreciation show for us, that she gathered
all this material so we didn't have to do anything.

482
00:42:28,166 --> 00:42:29,875
I mean, I'm getting chills
just thinking about it right now;

483
00:42:29,917 --> 00:42:34,458
it's just an amazing community
around the show and around this game.

484
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:41,000
Community is always going to be, probably,
the most important thing when it comes to Minecraft...

485
00:42:41,041 --> 00:42:44,875
...because that's what makes it
bigger than itself.

486
00:42:44,917 --> 00:42:51,000
It's very cool to see, you know,
people are so involved and really, like,

487
00:42:51,041 --> 00:42:54,291
making something
that's just about this game.

488
00:43:05,125 --> 00:43:11,834
I do think that there is something to be said for the fact
that so many people are excited about the game,

489
00:43:11,875 --> 00:43:15,041
and they are excited to share
their excitement with other people.

490
00:43:15,083 --> 00:43:17,583
And I do think
there's a synergy from that.

491
00:43:17,625 --> 00:43:19,959
I've never seen
anything like this.

492
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,625
It is--it has so much universal appeal
over so many different kinds of people;

493
00:43:25,667 --> 00:43:27,667
I've never seen anything like it.

494
00:43:37,166 --> 00:43:42,667
I mean, Minecraft, because
it's such an open experience, an open world,

495
00:43:42,708 --> 00:43:46,542
kind of naturally lends itself
to be populated by these sub-cultures...

496
00:43:46,583 --> 00:43:50,834
...of mission and creators,
or podcasters, or live-streamers.

497
00:43:50,875 --> 00:43:53,667
Yeah, Yogscast is certainly
one of them, I think.

498
00:43:55,917 --> 00:43:58,792
We met because we both
were in the same World of Warcraft guild.

499
00:43:58,834 --> 00:44:03,333
So we met in a thoroughly nerdy way
and ended up doing a thoroughly nerdy job,

500
00:44:03,375 --> 00:44:06,625
which is, effectively,
playing Minecraft.

501
00:44:06,667 --> 00:44:11,708
-That's our job, isn't it?
-Well, it's not just--video production, and--

502
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:15,458
but basically we do get paid to play Minecraft.

503
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:17,834
-Dude, there's something up there in that cave.
-Is there?

504
00:44:17,875 --> 00:44:23,834
Yeah, it's a green thing, look, bouncing.

505
00:44:23,875 --> 00:44:27,333
-Oh, Christ almighty, it's a creeper.
-It's gone.

506
00:44:27,375 --> 00:44:29,417
-Yeah, those are very, very bad.
-It's gone, Simon.

507
00:44:29,458 --> 00:44:34,917
They follow you and they explode;
don't go in towards it; it'll see you.

508
00:44:34,959 --> 00:44:38,834
We don't script anything; we just play the game
and record it and put it on YouTube.

509
00:44:38,875 --> 00:44:40,959
So, a lot of people watch it.

510
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,417
Good morning!
So we hit a million subscribers this morning.

511
00:44:44,458 --> 00:44:48,875
I'm gonna go
and wake Simon up with one of these.

512
00:44:48,917 --> 00:44:51,625
Morning Simon,
I've got you a coffee.

513
00:44:51,667 --> 00:44:55,959
You all right?

514
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,208
But it doesn't pay, you know, super well;
you only get sort of,

515
00:45:00,250 --> 00:45:05,166
nought point nought, nought, nought one cent
per, you know, view.

516
00:45:05,208 --> 00:45:11,750
But because we have a million views on a video,
that actually ends up adding up to enough.

517
00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:19,208
So it is a big audience of people, and I think we probably
do it a bit better than most, which is why we're just--

518
00:45:19,250 --> 00:45:21,458
But we're still modest.

519
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:25,250
It's kind of like a journey for me,
playing Minecraft and watching...

520
00:45:25,291 --> 00:45:28,959
...how it's changed
over the months and months,

521
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:35,000
and thinking in a few months' time
how different is it gonna be?

522
00:45:35,041 --> 00:45:40,291
And I guess it is kind of nice to have
almost feel like you're a part of that,

523
00:45:40,333 --> 00:45:44,834
because you've
experienced that as a gamer.

524
00:45:44,875 --> 00:45:46,208
And since you're in debug mode;

525
00:45:46,250 --> 00:45:52,792
you can just change the code and it just
instantly changes, which is very, very efficient.

526
00:45:52,834 --> 00:46:00,083
Yeah, I can do anything; we can make arrows explode
when they hit the ground instead.

527
00:46:00,125 --> 00:46:06,208
Arrow in ground; there we go.

528
00:46:06,250 --> 00:46:09,542
When doing a game, it's more about
what to expect from a game...

529
00:46:09,583 --> 00:46:19,375
...and trying to play around with those expectations;
that's kind of the most fun part.

530
00:46:19,417 --> 00:46:23,750
Let's give it a bigger explosion!

531
00:46:23,792 --> 00:46:29,708
There we go.

532
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:31,834
Oh, is that thunder?

533
00:46:43,708 --> 00:46:48,500
-I think it's about 9,000.
-9,000?

534
00:46:48,542 --> 00:46:51,000
Or something;
it's insane.

535
00:46:51,041 --> 00:47:00,291
Minecon is basically a celebration
of the launch of Minecraft.

536
00:47:00,333 --> 00:47:03,708
Do you think it's reasonable
time to do it in November?

537
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:05,000
Yeah, we can--

538
00:47:05,041 --> 00:47:11,458
It would be cool to sort of do a live deployment on stage
when they deploy the one dot o version.

539
00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:12,959
That would be cool.

540
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,417
Yeah, I will get nervous.

541
00:47:15,458 --> 00:47:17,250
We haven't put up the site
where people can register yet,

542
00:47:17,291 --> 00:47:22,875
so we have no idea how many are gonna show up,
and we signed the papers already with the hotel.

543
00:47:22,917 --> 00:47:28,375
I mean, at least a couple of hundred should show up,
I think, but I have no idea.

544
00:47:49,041 --> 00:47:53,250
It is a collaborative medium;
developers and gamers collaborate.

545
00:47:53,291 --> 00:47:57,500
We are makers, we are creators,
and that's why we're here today;

546
00:47:57,542 --> 00:48:02,417
because we're gonna celebrate
that collaboration between developers and gamers.

547
00:48:02,458 --> 00:48:06,250
So I'm very, very grateful for everyone
who's come to join us today,

548
00:48:06,291 --> 00:48:13,959
and I think it is particularly fitting
that our first presenter today is Mojang;

549
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:19,917
because it's hard to imagine a game that would,
like Minecraft, that would flourish,

550
00:48:19,959 --> 00:48:27,708
because it breaks so many conventions and basically
hands the creative keys over to the gamers.

551
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:30,250
And that is truly revolutionary.

552
00:48:30,291 --> 00:48:36,041
And so I am very, very pleased to introduce
Markus "Notch" Persson and Lydia Winters,

553
00:48:36,083 --> 00:48:38,333
who are gonna show you
the Minecraft Adventure update.

554
00:48:38,375 --> 00:48:40,792
Please welcome them.

555
00:48:50,708 --> 00:48:54,834
Minecraft is why we do what we do,
because it--

556
00:48:54,875 --> 00:48:58,792
you are literally looking into the future
when you see Minecraft, you know?

557
00:48:58,834 --> 00:49:02,792
Like I said, we've always had these genres,
we always had the traditional stuff,

558
00:49:02,834 --> 00:49:05,792
but this is the future of gaming,
you know?

559
00:49:05,834 --> 00:49:10,333
This collaboration, this emphasis on creativity,
on freedom.

560
00:49:10,375 --> 00:49:15,125
And it's thrilling to be able to be here and say,
"Yes, I was there when it happened."

561
00:49:15,166 --> 00:49:19,583
He obviously knew he was creating building blocks;
but I don't think anybody could have expected...

562
00:49:19,625 --> 00:49:24,417
...how ready so many millions of people were
to take those building blocks and say,

563
00:49:24,458 --> 00:49:27,917
"Okay, I'm gonna create stuff in the game."
I don't think anybody could see that coming.

564
00:51:01,667 --> 00:51:03,583
Sorry, that was
really horrible.

565
00:51:03,625 --> 00:51:04,291
-Oh, it’s okay.
-It’s a good thing I left...

566
00:51:04,333 --> 00:51:06,959
...because you would have been
very alarmed...

567
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,375
...that I was gonna die.

568
00:51:09,417 --> 00:51:12,917
The fact in God games
you kind of own the world...

569
00:51:12,959 --> 00:51:16,583
...isn’t as important
as owning your own house.

570
00:51:16,625 --> 00:51:23,875
And that idea of building,
and creating,

571
00:51:23,917 --> 00:51:26,583
and almost moding,
as part of the gaming experience,

572
00:51:26,625 --> 00:51:30,333
is why it’s far better
than a God game,

573
00:51:30,375 --> 00:51:32,792
and a game
that I’ve done.

574
00:51:32,834 --> 00:51:34,750
Sure.

575
00:51:34,792 --> 00:51:37,291
You’re, uh--

576
00:51:37,333 --> 00:51:38,542
No, for sure.

577
00:51:38,583 --> 00:51:40,792
It’s fact.

578
00:51:40,834 --> 00:51:44,083
Because of Minecraft,
I think, it has changed...

579
00:51:44,125 --> 00:51:47,917
...my view of what I do
on a day to day basis.

580
00:51:47,959 --> 00:51:53,417
I still really believe
that I have got one great game.

581
00:51:53,458 --> 00:51:57,583
You know, inside one great game
idea that I can inspire a team...

582
00:51:57,625 --> 00:51:59,708
...to turn into a real
idea in me.

583
00:52:19,792 --> 00:52:21,792
Well, everyone in the studio
is huge, huge fans...

584
00:52:21,834 --> 00:52:22,583
...of Minecraft.

585
00:52:22,625 --> 00:52:23,834
Oh cool!

586
00:52:23,875 --> 00:52:26,375
It is amazing when
you do something like that,

587
00:52:26,417 --> 00:52:31,792
and then it becomes this expression
of everybody’s creativity.

588
00:52:31,834 --> 00:52:34,458
It is such a cool place
to build,

589
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:36,375
and grow a community,
and meet friends.

590
00:52:36,417 --> 00:52:38,083
I wouldn’t even call Minecraft
a game anymore.

591
00:52:38,125 --> 00:52:39,500
It’s so much further
than that.

592
00:52:39,542 --> 00:52:40,291
It’s a platform.

593
00:52:40,333 --> 00:52:44,458
It’s a platform for us to develop
our architectural side,

594
00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:46,500
our creative nature.

595
00:52:46,542 --> 00:52:49,500
It let’s us be ourselves,
communicate with people,

596
00:52:49,542 --> 00:52:51,834
and create things
that we maybe didn’t think...

597
00:52:51,875 --> 00:52:53,792
...we ever could,
but now we can.

598
00:52:59,333 --> 00:53:04,792
Anytime I get on that server,
I get astounded by the imagination,

599
00:53:04,834 --> 00:53:07,375
the creativity of the people
that are on there,

600
00:53:07,417 --> 00:53:09,000
and my jaw just
hits the ground.

601
00:53:09,041 --> 00:53:12,041
I just can’t believe
what the people;

602
00:53:12,083 --> 00:53:16,083
A, have the design sense
to accomplish.

603
00:53:16,125 --> 00:53:16,834
I can’t do it.

604
00:53:16,875 --> 00:53:18,500
I don’t know if it’s
just me,

605
00:53:18,542 --> 00:53:20,120
but I’m looking at this stuff,
and like, “Wow!”

606
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:21,875
And I’ll tell them.

607
00:53:21,917 --> 00:53:23,875
I’ll say, “This is fabulous.”

608
00:53:23,917 --> 00:53:24,120
“This is fantastic.”

609
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,083
“How do you do this?”

610
00:54:59,375 --> 00:55:00,750
Hi there, everybody!

611
00:55:00,792 --> 00:55:03,583
This is Halkun,
and I’m gonna demonstrate...

612
00:55:03,625 --> 00:55:06,120
to you how I really don’t play
Minecraft like other people.

613
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,750
Now, first thing you’re gonna notice
is I’m kinda staring at a corner...

614
00:55:09,792 --> 00:55:11,542
of a very,
very deep well.

615
00:55:11,583 --> 00:55:13,250
And it’s made out
of bedrock,

616
00:55:13,291 --> 00:55:15,875
and it’s very, very high,
and I’m sure you’re probably thinking,

617
00:55:15,917 --> 00:55:18,792
“Why Halkun, that is a very,
very deep well.”

618
00:55:18,834 --> 00:55:20,500
And I’m gonna show you
the reason why.

619
00:55:20,542 --> 00:55:22,750
It is currently holding...

620
00:55:22,792 --> 00:55:24,458
...this!

621
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:29,834
This is a 1:1 scale model
of the Starship Enterprise.

622
00:55:29,875 --> 00:55:31,120
I just got finished putting
the framework together.

623
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,708
I haven’t slept yet,
so I’m gonna be a little loopy...

624
00:55:34,750 --> 00:55:36,708
...as I show you what
I’ve got here.

625
00:55:36,750 --> 00:55:38,625
So, as you can see there’s
still some scaffolding still up there.

626
00:55:38,667 --> 00:55:42,333
So, why don’t we take a walk,
shall we?

627
00:55:42,375 --> 00:55:45,375
I reversed 6502 code
for fun.

628
00:55:45,417 --> 00:55:47,542
So, I have like disassembled
source code...

629
00:55:47,583 --> 00:55:49,333
...from Final Fantasy I.

630
00:55:49,375 --> 00:55:51,208
I have disassembled
source code...

631
00:55:51,250 --> 00:55:54,708
...from ProDOS
for the Apple II that I’ve taken apart.

632
00:55:54,750 --> 00:55:56,542
And that’s what I do,
I find these programs,

633
00:55:56,583 --> 00:55:57,708
and take them apart.

634
00:55:57,750 --> 00:56:01,917
I’ve been, I’ve been reverse
engineering applicate software...

635
00:56:01,959 --> 00:56:02,834
...for like ten years.

636
00:56:02,875 --> 00:56:04,792
I’m actually active
in a community...

637
00:56:04,834 --> 00:56:06,792
...where we’ve been disassembling
Final Fantasy VII...

638
00:56:06,834 --> 00:56:08,458
for the last decade.

639
00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:10,375
Pretty much I’m all over
the map when it comes...

640
00:56:10,417 --> 00:56:11,166
...to just things.

641
00:56:11,208 --> 00:56:16,250
Intellectual property law,
I do reverse engineering,

642
00:56:16,291 --> 00:56:17,417
I do the marketing.

643
00:56:17,458 --> 00:56:20,250
So, it’s because I live in
a very tiny apartment,

644
00:56:20,291 --> 00:56:21,792
and I’m often bored.

645
00:56:26,834 --> 00:56:30,000
Um, let me see if I can find
my Enterprise.

646
00:56:30,041 --> 00:56:33,458
So we’re sitting at...

647
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:40,000
8,984,531,
and I need to update these badly.

648
00:56:40,041 --> 00:56:41,792
What are some of the comments
here that you have?

649
00:56:41,834 --> 00:56:42,458
Nerd!

650
00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:44,708
I need a girlfriend!

651
00:56:44,750 --> 00:56:46,166
What a geek!

652
00:56:46,208 --> 00:56:47,792
The Virgin Diaries,
because evidently...

653
00:56:47,834 --> 00:56:50,834
...I’m a virgin, too.

654
00:56:50,875 --> 00:56:53,792
Uh, I don’t think you guys
have never really appreciated...

655
00:56:53,834 --> 00:56:57,875
...how absolutely huge
the Enterprise is,

656
00:56:57,917 --> 00:57:00,708
but I don’t know,
this is kind of a shock to you.

657
00:57:00,750 --> 00:57:02,458
This thing is fucking enormous.

658
00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:04,458
People who don’t play Minecraft
just looked at this,

659
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:07,333
and go, “What on earth
did that nerd do?”

660
00:57:07,375 --> 00:57:09,000
And a lot of people,
when they saw this too,

661
00:57:09,041 --> 00:57:10,792
they saw the video,
and they never--

662
00:57:10,834 --> 00:57:12,417
They didn’t know when Minecraft was
getting all trendy,

663
00:57:12,458 --> 00:57:13,583
and everyone’s like,
“I don’t wanna play.”

664
00:57:13,625 --> 00:57:15,792
“It sounds like everyone’s
just getting on the band wagon.”

665
00:57:15,834 --> 00:57:17,583
And I remember when someone
saw my video,

666
00:57:17,625 --> 00:57:21,208
and they posted underneath it,
“Okay, I get it.”

667
00:57:21,250 --> 00:57:23,750
“I understand now.”

668
00:57:23,792 --> 00:57:26,708
“Now I see why this is such
a game that--

669
00:57:26,750 --> 00:57:28,250
why everyone’s playing
this game.

670
00:57:28,291 --> 00:57:29,458
Before when you would go
on YouTube,

671
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:31,333
and you saw somebody
who modeled the Enterprise,

672
00:57:31,375 --> 00:57:33,250
you’d think,
“Wow, that’s incredible.”

673
00:57:33,291 --> 00:57:35,166
I could never do that,
I don’t have the knowledge,

674
00:57:35,208 --> 00:57:36,625
of the modeling software.

675
00:57:36,667 --> 00:57:37,667
Like I can’t do that.

676
00:57:37,708 --> 00:57:40,458
But when you see Minecraft,
the Minecraft Enterprise,

677
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,417
you’re like,
“You couldn’t.”

678
00:57:42,458 --> 00:57:43,458
Let’s be clear.

679
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:44,750
Like you could never
do that.

680
00:57:44,792 --> 00:57:46,417
But there’s a part of you
that thinks,

681
00:57:46,458 --> 00:57:47,834
“If I just had the time...”

682
00:57:47,875 --> 00:57:50,333
It’s sort of democratized,
right?

683
00:57:50,375 --> 00:57:52,375
Because everybody has
the same pieces.

684
00:57:52,417 --> 00:57:54,708
And in this you’re making it
out of something.

685
00:57:54,750 --> 00:57:58,250
And there’s a being in there
that is doing it.

686
00:57:58,291 --> 00:57:59,542
Right?

687
00:57:59,583 --> 00:58:01,208
So, it’s much easier,
I think,

688
00:58:01,250 --> 00:58:03,041
to map yourself
to that.

689
00:58:03,083 --> 00:58:06,500
This is Voyager.

690
00:58:06,542 --> 00:58:08,375
There’s the Enterprise E.

691
00:58:08,417 --> 00:58:12,959
There is the Klingon Bird-of-Prey.

692
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,208
So, we can make these ships,
take these blocks,

693
00:58:17,250 --> 00:58:19,542
and put them in this world
where we can build our ships...

694
00:58:19,583 --> 00:58:22,542
...with these blocks,
and then, you know,

695
00:58:22,583 --> 00:58:25,834
wire them up,
give them life,

696
00:58:25,875 --> 00:58:27,458
and see what happens.

697
00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:33,083
But if you have something take it,
and try going in a completely different direction.

698
00:58:33,125 --> 00:58:36,417
Take the seeds of it,
and then see what else you can do.

699
00:58:36,458 --> 00:58:37,959
I don’t wanna see bigger
and better,

700
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,667
I wanna see this way
or that way.

701
00:58:40,708 --> 00:58:42,208
Hey guys, I just want
to show you a project...

702
00:58:42,250 --> 00:58:44,792
...I’ve been working on
in Minecraft.

703
00:58:44,834 --> 00:58:46,166
It’s up here.

704
00:58:46,208 --> 00:58:49,083
At least a good view
of it is.

705
00:58:49,125 --> 00:58:54,250
This is a Arithmetic-Logic Unit.

706
00:58:54,291 --> 00:58:57,542
And an ALU is found in every processor
because it does math.

707
00:58:57,583 --> 00:58:59,834
When the Minecraft
Enterprise came out,

708
00:58:59,875 --> 00:59:04,458
the computer came out
at about that same time.

709
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:07,500
It is 16-bit,
and somewhat slow,

710
00:59:07,542 --> 00:59:11,542
and big,
and unwieldy,

711
00:59:11,583 --> 00:59:17,125
but it’s implemented
in the video game what do you want?

712
00:59:17,166 --> 00:59:20,208
I have it set up, hopefully,
so that when I add registers,

713
00:59:20,250 --> 00:59:23,708
and ram,
probably not very much ram,

714
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:26,959
and program counter,
it will be a legit computer.

715
01:00:07,542 --> 01:00:14,708
Okay, so this is the ALU
of a basic computer.

716
01:00:14,750 --> 01:00:16,542
So, this is the output.

717
01:00:16,583 --> 01:00:18,250
These are the inputs.

718
01:00:18,291 --> 01:00:22,375
And these are the controls.

719
01:00:22,417 --> 01:00:23,875
I’m gonna do 2+1.

720
01:00:23,917 --> 01:00:24,120
It’s gonna be crazy.

721
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,375
I’m gonna turn that on
so it adds it,

722
01:00:27,417 --> 01:00:30,959
and we look over here,
there’s a huge bus...

723
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:36,792
...taking all the values
from the end of the ALU,

724
01:00:36,834 --> 01:00:38,083
all the way back over here.

725
01:00:38,125 --> 01:00:42,834
So, bit wise I mean,
we added 2+1,

726
01:00:42,875 --> 01:00:44,250
we get three,
which is one, one...

727
01:00:45,792 --> 01:00:49,000
It can only add, really,
but multiplication...

728
01:00:49,041 --> 01:00:50,166
is just adding over
and over again.

729
01:00:50,208 --> 01:00:52,333
division is subtracting
over and over again,

730
01:00:52,375 --> 01:00:55,542
and subtraction is just
adding a negative number.

731
01:00:55,583 --> 01:00:57,917
If pieced together,
they can do any operation

732
01:00:57,959 --> 01:00:59,041
that a regular computer
can do.

733
01:01:01,083 --> 01:01:03,959
Okay, this has four bytes
of memory.

734
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,542
I would say in Minecraft
you could probably build...

735
01:01:08,583 --> 01:01:10,917
...512 bytes of ram.

736
01:01:10,959 --> 01:01:17,500
Which 256 bytes is the amount
that was in an Atari 2600.

737
01:01:17,542 --> 01:01:20,875
So, that kinda gives you
a feel.

738
01:01:20,917 --> 01:01:22,667
So, you could probably
double that.

739
01:01:22,708 --> 01:01:25,083
So, here’s the entire computer.

740
01:01:25,125 --> 01:01:26,875
Here you can see.

741
01:01:26,917 --> 01:01:34,041
You can see the connections,
you can see the cross over.

742
01:01:34,083 --> 01:01:41,750
You get a very visceral way
to appreciate what’s going on...

743
01:01:41,792 --> 01:01:45,792
...inside these things
that we can’t see anymore.

744
01:01:45,834 --> 01:01:48,542
There’s not just a disconnect
between regular people,

745
01:01:48,583 --> 01:01:51,750
even programmers,
just usually taking on faith...

746
01:01:51,792 --> 01:01:54,458
...that they click a button,
and now all this stuff they wrote...

747
01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:58,375
...can be run.

748
01:01:58,417 --> 01:02:01,875
That this disconnect can even
translates into people...

749
01:02:01,917 --> 01:02:03,750
...who are suppose to know
what’s going on...

750
01:02:03,792 --> 01:02:05,041
...is really interesting.

751
01:02:05,083 --> 01:02:10,708
but there’s definitely this class
of machines we have now...

752
01:02:10,750 --> 01:02:13,583
...that are tantamount
to magic,

753
01:02:13,625 --> 01:02:17,917
and we just see them go,
and watch them do...

754
01:02:17,959 --> 01:02:20,750
...all these amazing things,
and nod,

755
01:02:20,792 --> 01:02:23,667
and say, “Okay, this is where
we are right now.”

756
01:02:23,708 --> 01:02:26,667
And know that the chain
of us moving from the present...

757
01:02:26,708 --> 01:02:27,834
...to the future.

758
01:02:27,875 --> 01:02:30,417
And now there’s gonna be
even cooler things.

759
01:02:30,458 --> 01:02:32,125
And that’s just kind of where
it stops,

760
01:02:32,166 --> 01:02:36,166
and you don’t say,
“Okay, how does this work?”

761
01:02:36,208 --> 01:02:38,250
“What are we really doing?”

762
01:02:46,375 --> 01:02:48,417
I hope you guys
check in later...

763
01:02:48,458 --> 01:02:53,375
...to see this once
I have a few other...

764
01:02:53,417 --> 01:02:55,250
...finished chunks done.

765
01:02:55,291 --> 01:02:56,250
Thanks for watching.

766
01:02:56,291 --> 01:02:59,583
Infrastructure is such a key part
of Minecraft’s success, I think.

767
01:02:59,625 --> 01:03:01,083
Because it’s a game
about sharing,

768
01:03:01,125 --> 01:03:03,500
so you just need that infrastructure
in place to share...

769
01:03:03,542 --> 01:03:06,792
...either your creations,
or your things...

770
01:03:06,834 --> 01:03:08,083
...that you’ve engineered
in game...

771
01:03:08,125 --> 01:03:12,708
...like a color printer
I saw somebody made last week.

772
01:03:12,750 --> 01:03:13,834
To share those ideas,
right?

773
01:03:13,875 --> 01:03:17,083
Those ideas need places
to move around.

774
01:03:17,125 --> 01:03:18,750
Without YouTube,
without Twitter,

775
01:03:18,792 --> 01:03:22,000
message boards,
community sites,

776
01:03:22,041 --> 01:03:24,333
it wouldn’t have been
as successful, for sure.

777
01:03:24,375 --> 01:03:26,875
So, I’m gonna now show you
some pictures of some...

778
01:03:26,917 --> 01:03:28,875
...of the cooler things we found,
and people have built...

779
01:03:28,917 --> 01:03:30,125
...in Minecraft.

780
01:03:30,166 --> 01:03:31,625
Whoa, the Eiffel Tower!

781
01:03:31,667 --> 01:03:32,625
What?

782
01:03:32,667 --> 01:03:34,291
That is so cool!

783
01:03:34,333 --> 01:03:35,417
How did they do that?

784
01:03:35,458 --> 01:03:37,625
Okay, that’s--
Okay, that is a lot of work.

785
01:03:37,667 --> 01:03:38,750
That looks pretty cool.

786
01:03:38,792 --> 01:03:40,500
I would, like,
never thought of that.

787
01:03:40,542 --> 01:03:41,625
Ooh, a castle!

788
01:03:41,667 --> 01:03:42,834
Is that Hogwart's?

789
01:03:42,875 --> 01:03:43,375
It is!

790
01:03:43,417 --> 01:03:45,166
I’m smart!

791
01:03:45,208 --> 01:03:46,583
No, you’re a nerd!

792
01:03:46,625 --> 01:03:49,583
It’s self-perpetuating in that way
of because people create things,

793
01:03:49,625 --> 01:03:50,120
and they spend time
creating things.

794
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,542
They wanna share
those things.

795
01:03:52,583 --> 01:03:54,708
So, automatically more people,
and new people are hearing...

796
01:03:54,750 --> 01:03:57,542
...about that game
in a contextual way.

797
01:03:57,583 --> 01:03:58,917
They’re not watching an add,
they’re saying,

798
01:03:58,959 --> 01:03:59,667
“Hey, I made this.”

799
01:03:59,708 --> 01:04:01,250
“You can do this too!”

800
01:04:01,291 --> 01:04:02,375
“Do you wanna play?”

801
01:04:02,417 --> 01:04:05,458
I found out through,
was it Tyco's post...

802
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:06,583
...on Penny Arcade?

803
01:04:06,625 --> 01:04:09,834
I’m not sure,
but I heard about it there,

804
01:04:09,875 --> 01:04:13,500
and my best friend was like,
“Hey, it’s a game where all you do...

805
01:04:13,542 --> 01:04:15,375
...is mine and craft.”

806
01:04:15,417 --> 01:04:17,291
And I was like,
“Really now?”

807
01:04:17,333 --> 01:04:19,625
I definitely wanted to
spread the word too, like.

808
01:04:19,667 --> 01:04:21,917
Yeah, there was an evangelical,
sort of.

809
01:04:21,959 --> 01:04:24,000
It was at the very beginning
of the--

810
01:04:24,041 --> 01:04:26,166
-The big, like--
-The take off of the game, right?

811
01:04:26,208 --> 01:04:27,625
-Yeah.
-So there wasn’t a lot...

812
01:04:27,667 --> 01:04:30,333
of material out there
about what it was like...

813
01:04:30,375 --> 01:04:32,083
...to actually play it.

814
01:04:32,125 --> 01:04:33,500
Like this game will suck
you in,

815
01:04:33,542 --> 01:04:34,500
and you are in trouble.

816
01:04:34,542 --> 01:04:35,834
And then you introduced
your son to it,

817
01:04:35,875 --> 01:04:37,000
and every time I would go over
to your house,

818
01:04:37,041 --> 01:04:38,375
he was playing it
the entire time.

819
01:04:38,417 --> 01:04:39,375
Yeah, still is.

820
01:04:39,417 --> 01:04:40,000
Hours.

821
01:04:40,041 --> 01:04:41,375
Every night,
hours.

822
01:04:41,417 --> 01:04:42,375
Hot.

823
01:04:42,417 --> 01:04:46,917
I pictured him sorta getting in there,
and not knowing what to do.

824
01:04:46,959 --> 01:04:49,120
It turns out that wasn’t
an issue.

825
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,625
So, where’s you’re, uh,
don’t you have...

826
01:04:51,667 --> 01:05:04,125
...a train station
in here somewhere?

827
01:05:04,166 --> 01:05:05,500
Oh wow,
that’s cool.

828
01:05:05,542 --> 01:05:08,917
I saw the one that--
they had a bunch of music blocks,

829
01:05:08,959 --> 01:05:12,834
and it played the song
from Portal.

830
01:05:12,875 --> 01:05:14,208
He’s my boy.

831
01:05:18,458 --> 01:05:21,667
I love you son.

832
01:05:21,708 --> 01:05:22,834
What?

833
01:05:22,875 --> 01:05:24,708
-What?
-Oh nothing.

834
01:05:24,750 --> 01:05:29,500
You know, it’s interesting,
because especially as a parent,

835
01:05:29,542 --> 01:05:32,667
you think, “Boy, I really need
to limit--”

836
01:05:32,708 --> 01:05:34,417
You just hear you have
to limit his time--

837
01:05:34,458 --> 01:05:36,458
You have to limit their time
in video games.

838
01:05:36,500 --> 01:05:38,750
You don’t really know why,
and I think that’s...

839
01:05:38,792 --> 01:05:40,875
...I think that’s just ridiculous now,
because you know,

840
01:05:40,917 --> 01:05:43,125
what is a video game anymore?

841
01:05:43,166 --> 01:05:44,959
When he’s been playing
for a couple of hours,

842
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:45,750
and I come in,
and I’m like,

843
01:05:45,792 --> 01:05:47,917
“Alright, Gabe, I think
you need to take a break.”

844
01:05:47,959 --> 01:05:51,625
And I look,
and he’s built a functioning aqueduct.

845
01:05:51,667 --> 01:05:52,166
That’s no joke.

846
01:05:52,208 --> 01:05:53,959
Like he figured out
how to get water...

847
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,959
...from one place to another
by building this contrap--

848
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,542
It’s like I’m not gonna tell you
to stop.

849
01:05:59,583 --> 01:06:03,166
You know?
Parenting has changed.

850
01:06:11,041 --> 01:06:13,041
We have, uh,
these nice people.

851
01:06:13,083 --> 01:06:15,583
They’re from a real
film company...

852
01:06:15,625 --> 01:06:19,875
...making a real movie
about Minecraft.

853
01:06:19,917 --> 01:06:21,708
And they’re just gonna be watching
what we do.

854
01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:23,333
We’re gonna be doing
what we normally do.

855
01:06:23,375 --> 01:06:24,250
We’re gonna be
playing Minecraft.

856
01:06:24,291 --> 01:06:26,500
I’m gonna be--
have activities for you.

857
01:06:26,542 --> 01:06:28,542
You guys are gonna get
to do your own things.

858
01:06:28,583 --> 01:06:31,667
But really just,
we’re gonna be ourselves today.

859
01:06:31,708 --> 01:06:32,834
Kyle, yes.

860
01:06:32,875 --> 01:06:36,166
I have always been
a gamer.

861
01:06:36,208 --> 01:06:38,667
I still remember the day
my cousin brought over...

862
01:06:38,708 --> 01:06:39,959
...a Pong machine,
and that was sort of...

863
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,542
...like a life-changing moment,
and I kinda grew up...

864
01:06:43,583 --> 01:06:45,583
...with computer games
in my life.

865
01:06:45,625 --> 01:06:48,625
Right now, I’m teaching
our Lower School Technology classes.

866
01:06:48,667 --> 01:06:51,000
So, I’m mostly working
with first and second grade,

867
01:06:51,041 --> 01:06:55,667
and I’m a big believer that
in bringing games into the classroom.

868
01:06:55,708 --> 01:06:58,417
I think it gets the kids really excited
about being here,

869
01:06:58,458 --> 01:07:00,166
being in school,
being in my class.

870
01:07:00,208 --> 01:07:03,959
Do you like school?

871
01:07:00,208 --> 01:07:00,208
Sometimes.

872
01:07:06,959 --> 01:07:11,083
Well, what's your favorite--
do you like the Minecraft stuff?

873
01:07:11,125 --> 01:07:13,041
Yeah, computer is
my favorite subject.

874
01:07:13,083 --> 01:07:15,250
Kids are excited
about games.

875
01:07:15,291 --> 01:07:16,083
This is where they live.

876
01:07:16,125 --> 01:07:19,750
You know, they go home,
they play games,

877
01:07:19,792 --> 01:07:23,875
that’s what they’re excited
to talk about with their friends.

878
01:07:23,917 --> 01:07:25,542
It’s this generation.

879
01:07:25,583 --> 01:07:26,708
You have a computer,
or a Wii?

880
01:07:26,750 --> 01:07:28,166
Yeah, we have
a Wii,

881
01:07:28,208 --> 01:07:30,291
an XBOX,
A PS3.

882
01:07:30,333 --> 01:07:32,291
My older brother
has a PlayStation.

883
01:07:32,333 --> 01:07:34,458
And they’re talking about
doing well in a class,

884
01:07:34,500 --> 01:07:35,250
and leveling up.

885
01:07:35,291 --> 01:07:36,792
I mean this is where
they live.

886
01:07:36,834 --> 01:07:39,291
This is kind of where
their mental head space is.

887
01:07:39,333 --> 01:07:43,000
And when I started playing Minecraft
this past summer,

888
01:07:43,041 --> 01:07:45,625
I just, you know,
there was just such...

889
01:07:45,667 --> 01:07:47,792
...amazing amounts of potential
that I really knew...

890
01:07:47,834 --> 01:07:49,125
...that I had to try
to make it work,

891
01:07:49,166 --> 01:07:51,875
and find a way to bring this
into my classroom.

892
01:07:51,917 --> 01:07:54,250
I’m gonna break you guys
into groups.

893
01:07:54,291 --> 01:07:57,792
And each group is gonna
make their own house...

894
01:07:57,834 --> 01:07:59,667
...out of these different materials.

895
01:08:04,375 --> 01:08:06,375
Max is off and running
making some tools.

896
01:08:06,417 --> 01:08:08,333
Guys, I’ll make doors
for us.

897
01:08:08,375 --> 01:08:10,125
-In the desert.
-Oh, I see it.

898
01:08:10,166 --> 01:08:13,250
You got it.

899
01:08:13,291 --> 01:08:14,083
You guys like the game?

900
01:08:14,125 --> 01:08:15,083
Yeah.

901
01:08:15,125 --> 01:08:17,458
It is really,
really fun.

902
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:19,333
Like, it’s kinda like
a free world.

903
01:08:19,375 --> 01:08:21,792
It’s not like New York City
with all the traffic,

904
01:08:21,834 --> 01:08:22,959
and all,
I love it.

905
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,500
I’m able to dream up
these different worlds,

906
01:08:25,542 --> 01:08:27,875
and different adventures
that the kids can have...

907
01:08:27,917 --> 01:08:29,583
...that I think they’re gonna
get something out of.

908
01:08:29,625 --> 01:08:31,250
That they’re gonna have--
that’s gonna have...

909
01:08:31,291 --> 01:08:32,667
...some lasting value for them.

910
01:08:32,708 --> 01:08:37,041
Well, Minecraft is basically
another version of your life,

911
01:08:37,083 --> 01:08:38,834
except it’s a magical version.

912
01:08:38,875 --> 01:08:40,708
Lots of great team work today.

913
01:08:40,750 --> 01:08:43,917
And I had a lot of positive feedback.

914
01:08:43,959 --> 01:08:47,417
You know, our network administrator
told me really early on...

915
01:08:47,458 --> 01:08:49,750
...this is one of the coolest
things I’ve ever seen done...

916
01:08:49,792 --> 01:08:52,708
...in all the years of working
in schools.

917
01:08:52,750 --> 01:08:54,291
Then the teachers who
are not gamers,

918
01:08:54,333 --> 01:08:56,750
yeah, I mean,
I guess they would kind of...

919
01:08:56,792 --> 01:08:58,708
...scratch their heads,
and they’d say that’s nice, Joel.

920
01:08:58,750 --> 01:09:01,542
You know, I’m glad you’re doing
something fun with the kids.

921
01:09:01,583 --> 01:09:06,208
But, once I would get them
in the room for five minutes,

922
01:09:06,250 --> 01:09:07,959
once they would see
just how excited,

923
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,792
and how engaged
the kids were,

924
01:09:09,834 --> 01:09:11,542
you know, almost everyone
of these teachers...

925
01:09:11,583 --> 01:09:13,125
...would walk out of the room
a believer...

926
01:09:13,166 --> 01:09:15,458
...that I was really
on to something here.

927
01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:17,750
Not sure I fully
understand it.

928
01:09:22,041 --> 01:09:25,291
I’m not sure I understand it at all,
to be honest with you.

929
01:09:25,333 --> 01:09:27,208
When I first saw this game,
I thought,

930
01:09:27,250 --> 01:09:30,291
“Wow, this is really pixelly,
and this reminds me...

931
01:09:30,333 --> 01:09:32,125
...of my Atari 800 days.”

932
01:09:32,166 --> 01:09:36,291
And I couldn’t believe that the kids
were satisfied with the graphics.

933
01:09:36,333 --> 01:09:38,417
But they don’t even seem
to notice that part of it.

934
01:09:40,083 --> 01:09:41,417
It’s awesome!

935
01:09:41,458 --> 01:09:43,083
It’s so much fun.

936
01:09:43,125 --> 01:09:45,708
That’s the only part
I don’t like.

937
01:09:45,750 --> 01:09:47,875
Listening to everyone
talk about it all the time.

938
01:09:47,917 --> 01:09:50,333
The kids come in,
and you literally...

939
01:09:50,375 --> 01:09:53,000
...have to rip their hands
off of the keyboard.

940
01:09:55,458 --> 01:09:57,000
It’s annoying.

941
01:09:57,041 --> 01:09:59,166
And I love to talk
about it.

942
01:10:04,667 --> 01:10:07,875
-No.
-Yeah.

943
01:10:07,917 --> 01:10:10,333
But let’s remember
there’s things they can do...

944
01:10:10,375 --> 01:10:13,000
...in Minecraft that they can’t
do in the real world.

945
01:10:13,041 --> 01:10:16,583
I mean, I can’t drop a bunch of kids
in a forest,

946
01:10:16,625 --> 01:10:20,083
and tell them to build
a shelter in real life.

947
01:10:20,125 --> 01:10:23,959
And even if it’s not quite
real life,

948
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,208
they’re thinking,
“Well, what would I do...

949
01:10:25,250 --> 01:10:26,083
...in this situation?”

950
01:10:26,125 --> 01:10:29,291
What must it be like to build
a castle on top...

951
01:10:29,333 --> 01:10:31,166
...of the mountain,
and try to fortify it.

952
01:10:31,208 --> 01:10:33,834
What must it be like
to explore a jungle.

953
01:10:33,875 --> 01:10:35,917
What must it be like
to farm,

954
01:10:35,959 --> 01:10:36,750
and raise crops.

955
01:10:36,792 --> 01:10:38,708
I mean, these are things
they can do in the game.

956
01:10:38,750 --> 01:10:43,083
And then if a teacher is able
to spend a little time customizing it,

957
01:10:43,125 --> 01:10:49,208
setting up these scenarios,
the potential is limitless.

958
01:10:49,250 --> 01:10:51,125
Well, with the teaching,
we’re gonna go talk to...

959
01:10:51,166 --> 01:10:52,667
...the Minecraft teacher
in New York.

960
01:10:52,708 --> 01:10:53,250
Okay.

961
01:10:53,291 --> 01:10:56,000
And we’ll see him teaching classes,
and things like that.

962
01:10:56,041 --> 01:10:57,834
I mean is that something
you ever expected...

963
01:10:57,875 --> 01:10:59,375
...would come with the game?

964
01:10:59,417 --> 01:11:00,625
No.

965
01:11:00,667 --> 01:11:02,667
I think his nickname is “Notch”.

966
01:11:02,708 --> 01:11:04,375
Oh yeah, “Notch”.

967
01:11:04,417 --> 01:11:06,542
Nacho,
you’re a great man!

968
01:11:06,583 --> 01:11:08,250
“Notch”.

969
01:11:08,291 --> 01:11:14,041
I think the person
would be very smart...

970
01:11:14,083 --> 01:11:16,333
...to make Minecraft.

971
01:11:16,375 --> 01:11:21,041
I think he likes adventures.

972
01:11:21,083 --> 01:11:23,458
I actually look forward
to 15 years from now...

973
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:27,250
...when these kids--
well, not my age necessarily,

974
01:11:27,291 --> 01:11:30,166
I’m a bit older than that,
but when they’re grown up,

975
01:11:30,208 --> 01:11:33,500
and to have a conversation
with someone...

976
01:11:33,542 --> 01:11:35,750
...it’s like,
“What, you worked on Minecraft?”

977
01:11:35,792 --> 01:11:37,750
Well not really,
but I sat next to the guy who did.

978
01:11:37,792 --> 01:11:39,875
Because I’ve--
just like you’re saying,

979
01:11:39,917 --> 01:11:42,333
some of the games,
you played when you were young,

980
01:11:42,375 --> 01:11:44,750
just, they stick with you.

981
01:11:44,792 --> 01:11:46,333
And it’s gonna be that
over Minecraft as well.

982
01:11:46,375 --> 01:11:49,542
It’s gonna be awesome to hear that
in 15, 20 years talking to people.

983
01:11:49,583 --> 01:11:52,500
And it’s also gonna be very fun
to see what Minecraft means...

984
01:11:52,542 --> 01:11:54,625
...at that point, so.

985
01:11:54,667 --> 01:11:57,959
I’m very much looking forward
to that.

986
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,208
It’s gonna be interesting,
because they’re gonna...

987
01:12:00,250 --> 01:12:01,500
...be looking back on it
nostalgically...

988
01:12:01,542 --> 01:12:03,291
in like ten years
from now.

989
01:12:03,333 --> 01:12:06,291
Ah, that’s a scary thought.

990
01:12:06,333 --> 01:12:08,458
Yeah, that means,
yeah.

991
01:12:08,500 --> 01:12:10,625
That means we really need
to do it right.

992
01:13:03,208 --> 01:13:06,500
We have so much to do,
and not much time...

993
01:13:06,542 --> 01:13:08,875
...until the release date.

994
01:13:08,917 --> 01:13:13,375
And I was kind of joking
that the release date...

995
01:13:13,417 --> 01:13:15,583
...that we’re told is not
really a release date,

996
01:13:15,625 --> 01:13:18,458
it’s like, well,
it’s more like an aim.

997
01:13:18,500 --> 01:13:21,000
But Carl didn’t agree.

998
01:13:21,041 --> 01:13:25,959
He said, “It’s going to be released
that day regardless.”

999
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:31,000
My attempt to push it
a little failed.

1000
01:13:31,500 --> 01:13:32,708
Hey.

1001
01:13:32,750 --> 01:13:35,166
What's up, sir?

1002
01:13:35,208 --> 01:13:35,750
How's it going?

1003
01:13:35,792 --> 01:13:36,291
Good.

1004
01:13:39,625 --> 01:13:43,500
I don't feel like one.

1005
01:13:43,542 --> 01:13:45,041
It's going good.

1006
01:13:45,083 --> 01:13:47,500
I'm a bit stressed out.

1007
01:13:47,542 --> 01:13:50,917
Definite--the pressure
is increasing in the team.

1008
01:13:50,959 --> 01:13:56,375
I would say I need to finish this,
so I'm really focused on it,

1009
01:13:56,417 --> 01:13:59,041
so right now it doesn't feel like
we'll ever work on something new,

1010
01:13:59,083 --> 01:14:01,834
but I have all these
ideas that I want to try.

1011
01:14:01,875 --> 01:14:05,625
And I've actually like spoken to Jens
and he would be willing to take over...

1012
01:14:05,667 --> 01:14:10,583
...like the head of Minecraft
and he's really good at it.

1013
01:14:10,625 --> 01:14:15,583
So, I feel comfortable that he's someone
who could do a very good job at it,

1014
01:14:15,625 --> 01:14:18,792
but right now it feels like I'm gonna
keep working on Minecraft forever.

1015
01:14:18,834 --> 01:14:20,208
We'll see.

1016
01:14:20,250 --> 01:14:26,000
I'm very excited about it being done
because it's like a milestone, I think,

1017
01:14:26,041 --> 01:14:28,208
that would be really worth celebrating.

1018
01:14:28,250 --> 01:14:32,917
Like, "Yeah, now you've made
it, this game, now it's finished."

1019
01:14:32,959 --> 01:14:35,583
So, yeah, I don't
think it's sad like that.

1020
01:14:35,625 --> 01:14:42,458
I mean, maybe, you know, I don't know how
long this game will live and be popular,

1021
01:14:42,500 --> 01:14:45,875
but maybe when it fades,
then you would feel a bit sad like,

1022
01:14:45,917 --> 01:14:47,708
"Oh, yeah,"
I'd be nostalgic.

1023
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:52,125
You know like, "Oh, I remember when
it was so popular," you know.

1024
01:14:52,166 --> 01:14:55,500
But, no, it definitely
doesn't feel like that.

1025
01:14:55,542 --> 01:14:57,708
I think it will keep
gaining, so.

1026
01:14:59,708 --> 01:15:03,125
Oh yeah, another bug, the bow doesn't
get damaged when you use it.

1027
01:15:04,750 --> 01:15:07,083
We're just taking today
as a final, like, polish day.

1028
01:15:07,125 --> 01:15:13,834
We have a few reported crash bugs that
we can't reproduce, so it's like,

1029
01:15:13,875 --> 01:15:16,792
we would like to fix them,
but we don't know how.

1030
01:15:16,834 --> 01:15:18,000
Yeah.

1031
01:15:18,041 --> 01:15:23,792
I'm a bit nervous because, mostly because
there are gonna be, hopefully reviews,

1032
01:15:23,834 --> 01:15:26,500
and those are gonna give the game
like a score and they're gonna say,

1033
01:15:26,542 --> 01:15:32,125
"No, this game is five percent less good
than the Super Mario Galaxy" or something.

1034
01:15:32,166 --> 01:15:34,667
Like here's a bug.

1035
01:15:34,708 --> 01:15:38,834
"Redstone torch randomly
burn out and never recover."

1036
01:15:38,875 --> 01:15:41,083
Okay, where do I start?

1037
01:15:41,125 --> 01:15:42,583
I have no idea, so.

1038
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:50,625
Oh, so fun this is.

1039
01:15:50,667 --> 01:15:51,542
Oh, there we go.

1040
01:15:51,583 --> 01:15:53,041
Now that's right, correct.

1041
01:15:53,083 --> 01:15:54,625
Oh, damn it.

1042
01:15:57,417 --> 01:15:59,667
I'll mark this as
can't reproduce.

1043
01:16:02,792 --> 01:16:04,708
So you said you just
sent the game off?

1044
01:16:04,750 --> 01:16:11,208
Yeah, I put it on the USB sticks and then
I sent the final like zip file to Tobias,

1045
01:16:11,250 --> 01:16:13,417
so he can make
the upload script.

1046
01:16:13,458 --> 01:16:20,417
Now it's 20 minutes past 3
and I have one-and-a-half days to go...

1047
01:16:20,458 --> 01:16:22,917
...and then we go to Minecon.

1048
01:16:22,959 --> 01:16:26,500
So I figured I'd
play with Legos.

1049
01:16:26,542 --> 01:16:29,041
It's a bit weird 'cause
I still feel like I probably

1050
01:16:29,083 --> 01:16:31,708
should still be polishing stuff
'cause there's stuff to polish,

1051
01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:35,250
but I don't want to risk getting new bugs,
so we're not doing that.

1052
01:16:35,291 --> 01:16:40,166
And I'm super nervous about the flight,
not nervous, more like giddy or something,

1053
01:16:40,208 --> 01:16:44,041
like I can't wait
until the flight goes.

1054
01:16:44,083 --> 01:16:45,250
See you guys tomorrow.

1055
01:16:45,291 --> 01:16:47,708
Yup, see you then.

1056
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:50,834
So, I think he feels that,
okay I can't do anything more now,

1057
01:16:50,875 --> 01:16:54,083
it's done and
I'm going to Vegas.

1058
01:16:54,125 --> 01:16:57,875
So, I think that's why
he's giddy and, uh,

1059
01:16:57,917 --> 01:17:00,166
and I started to feel that as well,
so probably tomorrow.

1060
01:17:00,208 --> 01:17:03,792
I'm gonna lock down the Scrolls
version tomorrow morning...

1061
01:17:03,834 --> 01:17:06,959
...and then I'm gonna just kick back
and put my feet up and play some...

1062
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,625
...Virtua Tennis 4 and go out
and have a beer with Markus,

1063
01:17:09,667 --> 01:17:14,375
and you know, just cool down
before the trip to Vegas.

1064
01:17:56,083 --> 01:17:57,250
It took a whole truck.

1065
01:18:00,667 --> 01:18:01,875
It's very cool.

1066
01:18:11,542 --> 01:18:15,291
I mean, there's been talk
about 5,000 people.

1067
01:18:15,333 --> 01:18:19,291
I don't think there's gonna
be that many, but who knows.

1068
01:18:27,500 --> 01:18:28,792
Yes.

1069
01:18:31,291 --> 01:18:33,125
It doesn't work at all.

1070
01:19:41,542 --> 01:19:43,959
But, uh, we only have
a few more minutes left,

1071
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,458
so we really do want to thank
all of y'all for coming here,

1072
01:19:47,500 --> 01:19:51,333
and this has been the highlight
for us of this past year...

1073
01:19:51,375 --> 01:19:55,667
...and what Minecraft
has done for all of us.

1074
01:20:10,291 --> 01:20:13,208
Because Minecon is finally
released, it's the end times.

1075
01:20:13,250 --> 01:20:14,625
No one thought it
would ever happen.

1076
01:20:14,667 --> 01:20:16,917
It's Minecon--sorry,
it's Minecraft.

1077
01:20:16,959 --> 01:20:17,667
That's okay.

1078
01:20:17,708 --> 01:20:19,625
I'm getting all of
your games wrong.

1079
01:20:19,667 --> 01:20:21,208
I've played it
a few times.

1080
01:20:21,250 --> 01:20:22,125
I heard you did, yeah.

1081
01:20:22,166 --> 01:20:22,750
Yeah.

1082
01:20:22,792 --> 01:20:23,583
He's still learning.

1083
01:20:23,625 --> 01:20:25,583
Yeah.

1084
01:20:25,625 --> 01:20:29,708
I guess just to close out,
I think you're obviously idolized...

1085
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:32,000
...by a lot of, uh--I'm sure
that must make you feel...

1086
01:20:32,041 --> 01:20:33,542
...kind of weird at times,
but you're obviously idolized...

1087
01:20:33,583 --> 01:20:36,208
...by a lot of indie developers
and people that want to make games.

1088
01:20:36,250 --> 01:20:38,959
You know, they look at what you've
done as a kind of success story,

1089
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,750
you know, like you went from being
a guy making an indie game...

1090
01:20:41,792 --> 01:20:45,417
...to a guy that can have 5,000 people
come out to a convention to see him.

1091
01:20:45,458 --> 01:20:48,417
So, do you have any words of advice
to people out there that are,

1092
01:20:48,458 --> 01:20:51,959
you know, trying to become,
you know, an indie developer?

1093
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,125
I think that the best advice
I can give everyone is,

1094
01:20:54,166 --> 01:20:57,208
"Don't listen to advice,"
but if you are going to listen to advice,

1095
01:20:57,250 --> 01:21:00,583
then making sure you actually
do something is good advice.

1096
01:21:00,625 --> 01:21:02,875
If you just sit around planning
something and not doing it,

1097
01:21:02,917 --> 01:21:04,959
you're not actually
gonna get anywhere.

1098
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,250
Cool, yeah, I think
that's a good.

1099
01:21:07,291 --> 01:21:09,166
-Yeah, cool.
-Are we good?

1100
01:21:09,208 --> 01:21:11,959
-Yup.
-Great. Awesome.

1101
01:21:17,917 --> 01:21:20,166
I'm actually not doing
anything myself,

1102
01:21:20,208 --> 01:21:23,417
but maybe I fall on
the stairs or something.

1103
01:21:27,708 --> 01:21:31,417
Music please for entry.

1104
01:21:31,458 --> 01:21:34,834
This is how it's gonna look--what it's
gonna look like when people are entering.

1105
01:21:34,875 --> 01:21:38,250
So they'll be the music on,
the lights will be low like this.

1106
01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:49,750
That's impressive.

1107
01:21:49,792 --> 01:21:54,291
-He's like a magician.
-That's so Las Vegas.

1108
01:21:54,333 --> 01:21:59,875
Everything's gonna get
dark for the HAT Films video.

1109
01:21:59,917 --> 01:22:04,083
It's kind of like how I said how I feel
the game deserves a six or a seven.

1110
01:22:04,125 --> 01:22:07,166
I do realize it's probably going
to get higher scores than that,

1111
01:22:07,208 --> 01:22:10,750
but I don't really dare hope
for that 'cause to me it's a--

1112
01:22:10,792 --> 01:22:14,458
There's so much more that
could be done to the game.

1113
01:22:14,500 --> 01:22:17,917
It's not really finished yet and I
don't think it's ever going to be.

1114
01:22:21,875 --> 01:22:24,333
Yeah, it sounds like
the closing ceremony started.

1115
01:22:24,375 --> 01:22:25,667
Yeah.

1116
01:23:14,875 --> 01:23:17,166
Well, would you like
to hear him talk?

1117
01:23:17,208 --> 01:23:19,917
Yeah!

1118
01:23:19,959 --> 01:23:26,667
Okay, so, Notch, how does
this feel to you right now?

1119
01:23:26,708 --> 01:23:29,708
No pressure, yeah.

1120
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:32,333
It's very overwhelming.

1121
01:23:32,375 --> 01:23:36,625
I mean, the reason I started working
on Minecraft and kept working on it...

1122
01:23:36,667 --> 01:23:40,750
...was because of people playing it
and it's the reason we started a company...

1123
01:23:40,792 --> 01:23:45,917
...because there were fans, and now
we have like 5,000 people here just for...

1124
01:23:45,959 --> 01:23:48,583
...the game, for
Minecraft, and that's...

1125
01:23:50,708 --> 01:23:56,917
We are so thankful that you guys traveled
from all over, literally, the world.

1126
01:23:56,959 --> 01:24:00,333
We have people from all different
countries here celebrating with us...

1127
01:24:00,375 --> 01:24:04,583
...to be part of the official release
and we are so grateful...

1128
01:24:04,625 --> 01:24:08,041
...and absolutely humbled
that you would come all this way...

1129
01:24:08,083 --> 01:24:12,250
...for this game that this team
has been working on,

1130
01:24:12,291 --> 01:24:19,000
but now, for the moment that
you have all been waiting for.

1131
01:24:48,083 --> 01:24:51,667
Yeah, 2011 was probably
the weirdest year of my life.

1132
01:24:51,708 --> 01:24:54,667
It's a--feels like a blur now
that I think back on it.

1133
01:24:54,708 --> 01:24:58,875
So much happened and so
I can't even describe it.

1134
01:24:58,917 --> 01:25:01,041
The weirdest year
of my life.

1135
01:25:09,959 --> 01:25:12,708
It's really hard,
this summing up things.

1136
01:25:12,750 --> 01:25:18,375
You know, it's--'cause there's
so much that has happened...

1137
01:25:18,417 --> 01:25:21,959
...and at the same time trying to work and then
of course manage the family back home.

1138
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:26,166
And we had some illness
in the family as well,

1139
01:25:26,208 --> 01:25:30,500
we're trying to balance that and it's just,
it was almost too much in one year...

1140
01:25:30,542 --> 01:25:31,917
...I have to say.

1141
01:25:33,542 --> 01:25:35,542
Let me show
you around.

1142
01:25:35,583 --> 01:25:37,166
Watch out.

1143
01:25:37,208 --> 01:25:37,959
Let's see.

1144
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:44,041
Yeah, right as we enter, this is where,
sort of, everyone will sit and work.

1145
01:25:44,083 --> 01:25:45,667
A bar will be over there.

1146
01:25:45,708 --> 01:25:47,125
Next to it will be
a pool table.

1147
01:25:47,166 --> 01:25:49,083
Actually, we'll have
the logo on that wall too.

1148
01:25:49,125 --> 01:25:49,792
The logo, okay.

1149
01:25:49,834 --> 01:25:50,792
Yeah, and the logo
on that wall.

1150
01:25:50,834 --> 01:25:52,000
Cool.

1151
01:25:52,041 --> 01:25:56,333
Over here is the Marcus'
and Jacobs' room.

1152
01:25:56,375 --> 01:26:00,417
They'll have their own
sound-proof room.

1153
01:26:00,458 --> 01:26:01,583
Pretty good.

1154
01:26:01,625 --> 01:26:05,333
Yeah, it's gonna
be great.

1155
01:26:07,291 --> 01:26:11,875
It's really hard to,
really get your head around...

1156
01:26:11,917 --> 01:26:14,667
...everything and summarize,
but, you know,

1157
01:26:14,708 --> 01:26:16,917
obviously it's been the most
amazing year of my life.

1158
01:26:16,959 --> 01:26:22,375
Just going from, you know,
sitting in a shitty apartment,

1159
01:26:22,417 --> 01:26:25,917
you know, working on things
that I hate and you know,

1160
01:26:25,959 --> 01:26:30,333
absolutely seeing no
future for myself aside...

1161
01:26:30,375 --> 01:26:34,000
...from the few fleeting
moments of glory that I had,

1162
01:26:34,041 --> 01:26:36,417
you know, posting
some pixel art online,

1163
01:26:36,458 --> 01:26:39,375
you know, going from that
to actually, you know, this,

1164
01:26:39,417 --> 01:26:43,542
travelling around the world
meeting fans and stuff like that,

1165
01:26:43,583 --> 01:26:46,959
it's been a pretty
wild ride.

1166
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,500
A lot of things
happened last year.

1167
01:26:51,542 --> 01:26:55,792
We recently changed
Minecraft's front page,

1168
01:26:55,834 --> 01:27:00,375
so it has my Twitter
account instead of Notch's,

1169
01:27:00,417 --> 01:27:03,959
so... one difference.

1170
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,250
So yeah, slightly before Minecraft
I asked Jens to take over...

1171
01:27:07,291 --> 01:27:10,708
...as the new game developer,
the lead developer of Minecraft...

1172
01:27:10,750 --> 01:27:14,750
...and I left the game
and now Jens is doing it.

1173
01:27:14,792 --> 01:27:19,125
We, we sat down and made
a plan in the beginning...

1174
01:27:19,166 --> 01:27:25,166
...of last year and that is still,
we still use the same plan...

1175
01:27:25,208 --> 01:27:29,583
...because we only got
half ways through that list.

1176
01:27:29,625 --> 01:27:31,917
I mean, I think we should be
able to do this in half a year,

1177
01:27:31,959 --> 01:27:36,500
which means we won't, but at least
that's kind of a base "guesstimate."

1178
01:27:36,542 --> 01:27:43,333
I barely talk to him
at all about Minecraft.

1179
01:27:43,375 --> 01:27:48,417
Sometimes I ask him small things,
but he said he didn't want...

1180
01:27:48,458 --> 01:27:51,291
...to interfere and he
has definitely not.

1181
01:27:53,417 --> 01:27:58,417
Well it's a relief and kind of a curse
'cause I won't ever be able to top that.

1182
01:27:58,458 --> 01:28:04,333
It's a bit of a relief not to work
on something that big...

1183
01:28:04,375 --> 01:28:06,250
...because I think I've done
a lot of soul searching that...

1184
01:28:06,291 --> 01:28:10,250
...that I'd rather work
on something smaller like--

1185
01:28:10,291 --> 01:28:12,583
'Cause I made Minecraft
kind of for myself...

1186
01:28:12,625 --> 01:28:13,875
...and that's the kind
of games I want to make,

1187
01:28:13,917 --> 01:28:17,125
but now there are so many like kids
playing it and parents playing it...

1188
01:28:17,166 --> 01:28:19,583
...and I can't really
understand that audience.

1189
01:28:19,625 --> 01:28:22,667
So, it feels like there's a huge
responsibility to keep like...

1190
01:28:22,708 --> 01:28:25,375
...your child safe and make sure
the parents can actually use it...

1191
01:28:25,417 --> 01:28:28,083
...the way they want to use it
with their kids and stuff.

1192
01:28:28,125 --> 01:28:32,542
So, I'd rather actually work on something
where I kind of understand the audience more.

1193
01:28:35,250 --> 01:28:39,542
So, after Minecraft came out,
the launch was a huge success,

1194
01:28:39,583 --> 01:28:42,959
and then he handed the development
off to one of his colleagues.

1195
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:47,041
I began to hear whispers of,
"Oh, he's just counting his money now,"

1196
01:28:47,083 --> 01:28:51,417
or, "He's not really that into
making games anymore."

1197
01:28:51,458 --> 01:28:53,959
And this struck me as strange
because it didn't really seem to fit...

1198
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:59,000
...with the guy I had met a couple of times
and interact with over email or what have you,

1199
01:28:59,041 --> 01:29:03,041
and he seemed to me like somebody
who's like, he loved doing this kind of thing.

1200
01:29:03,083 --> 01:29:11,041
And it was, it was comforting and it was exciting
to find out that those whispers were wrong...

1201
01:29:11,083 --> 01:29:16,166
...when his next game, which I'm still not even
sure how to pronounce, was announced...

1202
01:29:16,208 --> 01:29:22,750
...and to find out very quickly thereafter
that it is potentially as insane as...

1203
01:29:22,792 --> 01:29:24,500
...Minecraft was conceptually.

1204
01:29:30,583 --> 01:29:32,542
Yeah, I kind of burnt out
towards the end of Minecraft,

1205
01:29:32,583 --> 01:29:36,708
just the pressure of releasing it and like
I realized that I was gonna move on,

1206
01:29:36,750 --> 01:29:42,708
and all that, and then I started getting
really inspired to make games,

1207
01:29:42,750 --> 01:29:46,125
started doing the space game and
it feels like the beginning of Minecraft.

1208
01:29:46,166 --> 01:29:49,959
It's kind of just--you don't really know
what the game is gonna be.

1209
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,583
It's like--it's scary because it could be something
completely different than what you thought...

1210
01:29:53,625 --> 01:29:57,000
...and might not be fun at all,
it might be super fun.

1211
01:29:57,041 --> 01:29:58,583
So, it's very inspiring.

1212
01:29:58,625 --> 01:30:02,625
I'm pretty sure Bethesda doesn't
have a trademark called "Ten to the C."

1213
01:30:02,667 --> 01:30:04,041
Damn it, I pronounced it!

1214
01:30:04,083 --> 01:30:05,542
Damn it!

1215
01:30:05,583 --> 01:30:06,834
<i>Damn it!</i>

1216
01:30:09,041 --> 01:30:14,417
I think I could put this up now
if I wanted to, but it's not really fun yet.

1217
01:30:14,458 --> 01:30:20,250
So, once it's kind of at the point where I can--
I would get lost for an hour instead of developing,

1218
01:30:20,291 --> 01:30:23,792
then that's probably when
I'm going to release it.

1219
01:30:23,834 --> 01:30:27,667
I guess I'm kind of afraid of the fans
being disappointed with the new game.

1220
01:30:27,708 --> 01:30:34,000
I mean it's a space game, it's not like a fantasy,
chopping game or whatever.

1221
01:30:34,041 --> 01:30:42,875
What the first big chance of success and the
chance of expectation is that when you're...

1222
01:30:42,917 --> 01:30:48,583
...the new kid on the block, no one has formed
any expectations from you whatsoever,

1223
01:30:48,625 --> 01:30:53,834
and then when you exceeded, way,
exceeded people's expectations,

1224
01:30:53,875 --> 01:30:56,500
asking someone to do
that again is really tough.

1225
01:30:56,542 --> 01:31:01,542
Usually what happens in a successful
situation is that the person, you know,

1226
01:31:01,583 --> 01:31:04,125
the sophomore slump kind
of thing, or like blows it all.

1227
01:31:04,166 --> 01:31:10,500
I mean, if this was music, they'd blow it on crack
and hookers but, you know, I don't think--

1228
01:31:10,542 --> 01:31:12,959
And he's getting married and like he
doesn't seem like that kind of guy,

1229
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:16,875
but at the same time, like stay focused on the thing
that you're trying to do and don't worry about,

1230
01:31:16,917 --> 01:31:22,417
what I call, weather, right, like when you just can't,
you know, you can't control--it's gonna storm,

1231
01:31:22,458 --> 01:31:25,333
it's not, you know, whatever,
lightning's gonna strike, sometimes it doesn't.

1232
01:31:25,375 --> 01:31:29,291
You know, do all the variables you can control
and that's the quality of the game.

1233
01:31:36,375 --> 01:31:40,792
I've often felt creatively, it's key to have
a really bad memory and to forget what...

1234
01:31:40,834 --> 01:31:44,625
...you did last and really start off each project
like it's your first one in a way,

1235
01:31:44,667 --> 01:31:48,917
and I feel like the trick is to do that almost
every time, just like go back to the beginning...

1236
01:31:48,959 --> 01:31:53,333
...and really treat each project like your
first project and start from scratch again...

1237
01:31:53,375 --> 01:31:57,291
...and not worry too much about people
are expecting or want from you,

1238
01:31:57,333 --> 01:32:02,625
but go back to the same place that gave you
your first idea, you know, you didn't get your...

1239
01:32:02,667 --> 01:32:08,333
...first idea by listening to some advice from
a publisher or, you know, you just kind of,

1240
01:32:08,375 --> 01:32:14,375
you followed what you love and cared about
and followed what really inspired you and that's...

1241
01:32:14,417 --> 01:32:17,250
...where your idea came from and that's
what you should do every time.

1242
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:38,667
Great, sorry about
the coughing.

1243
01:33:38,708 --> 01:33:39,625
No, it's fine.

1244
01:33:39,667 --> 01:33:40,542
I'm sorry that, uh...

1245
01:33:42,750 --> 01:33:48,667
I had a cold and then I talked too much
and don't breathe enough and that's what happens.

1246
01:33:50,041 --> 01:33:54,750
We should probably try to wrap up
before we get stampeded.

1247
01:33:54,792 --> 01:33:56,208
Okay.

1248
01:33:58,208 --> 01:34:00,792
Okay, yeah, I think
we'll have lots of time.

1249
01:34:02,041 --> 01:34:06,000
I don't think so, I mean,
I'll talk forever, so like--

1250
01:34:06,041 --> 01:34:07,542
You gotta start
with something.

1251
01:34:07,583 --> 01:34:10,583
I'd still like you to
show us the game.

1252
01:34:10,625 --> 01:34:11,667
You guys should play.

1253
01:34:13,208 --> 01:34:14,333
All set?

1254
01:34:16,959 --> 01:34:18,250
That's a
clapper board is it?

1255
01:34:18,291 --> 01:34:18,875
Yeah.

1256
01:34:18,917 --> 01:34:19,750
Wow.

1257
01:34:21,291 --> 01:34:23,417
Awesome.

1258
01:34:23,458 --> 01:34:25,417
I wasn't even hot,
like it didn't even--

1259
01:34:25,458 --> 01:34:26,375
Shut up.

1260
01:34:26,417 --> 01:34:27,208
I'm burning up.

1261
01:34:27,250 --> 01:34:28,250
I mean it's not like we were
moving around or anything.

1262
01:34:28,291 --> 01:34:30,083
I was packed between
you two guys.

1263
01:34:30,125 --> 01:34:32,041
Minecraft--wait, it's an M.

1264
01:34:32,083 --> 01:34:34,291
Minecraft.

1265
01:34:34,333 --> 01:34:36,792
Feel free to use that
as your logo for your movie.

1266
01:34:36,834 --> 01:34:39,250
Minecraft--what are
you calling it anyway?

1267
01:34:39,291 --> 01:34:39,875
What, the movie?

1268
01:34:39,917 --> 01:34:40,500
Yeah.

1269
01:34:40,542 --> 01:34:41,708
Minecraft.

1270
01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:43,166
Where do you
get your ideas?

1271
01:37:40,792 --> 01:37:42,959
There should be enough
in there to do something.

1272
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,000
This guy up here.