Welcome to another "mega talking dead home edition."
We're gonna talk about two "walking dead" shows tonight.
That would be episode 606 of "fear the walking dead,"
Episode 107 of "walking dead: World beyond."
So let's talk about what we're gonna talk about.
Tonight we saw in "fear" that June will do
Pretty much whatever it takes
To help the people in virginia's communities.
And then over on "world beyond,"
We got a glimpse into huck's past
And we got to see huck, as a marine,
Take matters into her own hands with some deadly consequences.
We're gonna get behind-the-scenes looks
At both shows, particularly
In the explosion of tank town on "fear."
We're gonna get sneak peeks of both episodes
And two -- that's two -- in memoriams
For the price of one.
My guests tonight --
Jenna elfman, who, of course, plays June,
Colby minifie, who plays virginia.
And then later in the show, we're gonna be joined
By annet mahendru, who plays huck,
And also michael cudlitz, abraham ford himself,
Who directed tonight's episode
Of "walking dead: World beyond."
I am chris hardwick, and this is
"mega talking dead home edition."
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Later in the show, we're gonna be joined by annet mahendru
And michael cudlitz, but for right now,
Let's talk to jenna and colby
'cause a lot's happened in "fear."
First of all, the explosion at tank town.
There's a lot to cover about that.
Secondly, the tension between June and virginia
Was so thick, you could cut it with a knife,
And then that knife was actually used to cut off
Virginia's actual hand after she was bitten by a walker.
And then, is this the end of john and June?
What happened? Where's he going?
So let's just get right into it.
First of all, really, really, really incredible performances
Tonight, colby and jenna.
Thank you so much for being here.
Colby, what was your reaction when you learned that virginia
Was going to have her hand cut off?
Just utter and total excitement.
I am down for whatever. And...
When I heard that they were gonna chop off my hand,
I was like, "yes! Brilliant!"
I think I actually yelped on the phone
When they told me that, yeah. I'm into it.
Also, stuff has got to happen to virginia. You know?
She's responsible for too much craziness
That they -- they need to -- she needs to start getting
Some -- some karma back in her -- back in her life.
Well, it seems like -- was she about to do it herself?
It seems like, you know, she's --
She's tying a belt around her arm,
And she's flushing the wound with alcohol.
Is she -- she was about to do it herself, I imagine.
Totally. She was totally just like --
She was reaching for that hatchet
To cut her own hand off 'cause she knows --
She knows she has to stop the infection in some way.
It's great that she is trapped in this hut
With someone who is a medical genius like June,
So it's good that, like, she had -- she can trust
That whatever stuff she does wrong,
If she were to do it herself, would be taken care of maybe.
But also, like, June steals the hatchet,
And then it becomes a negotiation.
I like how -- how you think
That how ginny automatically thinks
That June's gonna help her just 'cause she can.
Yeah. [laughter]
She's like, "I got a medical genius, so it's great to..."
Like... [speaking indistinctly]
"yeah, you probably took some kind of oath, right?
You probably had to --
There's probably something that you might..."
But, of course, June does, obviously to negotiate --
She is -- she is negotiating.
But first of all, I just want to say
You're both so phenomenal in this episode
And the -- the scene between the two of you where virginia
Is actually -- we kind of see her really vulnerable
For the first time.
Really vulnerable for the first time.
Can you talk about that scene, jenna,
And kind of the intensity of virginia begging for her life
And June kind of holding the cards via a hatchet?
Number one, doing the scene with colby
And written by our awesome woman writer
Alex delyle,
It felt so fulfilling to do a scene between two women
Where it's a conflict of their own personal goals
And purposes and intentions
About their own universes as women,
Having nothing to do with men.
Men are awesome. Love 'em.
But in storytelling, to be able to have
An intense scene about life or death
Between two women who are proud
And have purposes they're serving,
You know, to the greater world, I just felt very honored
To be able to have this kind of writing to play.
It was -- and it was --
You know, colby's such a fantastic actress,
So it just was, like, awesome to do this.
But it's also very stressful because June has to consider
All the ramifications of both choices
In this heightened moment.
To save her life, I have leverage,
So I can ask her for some things.
I can have this in my back pocket
As, you know, money in the bank account later for her.
But to end it, how would that affect everybody?
You know? Or should I end it? Is everyone gonna --
That's -- isn't that what people want?
You know, and so to go through all of these choices
And all the ramifications of responsibility,
You know, was a lot,
Which I loved, also, having that play.
It was incredible.
Yeah, but, colby, do you think --
What do you think -- what do you think would stop virginia
From just being like, "oh, yeah, you can have whatever you want,"
And then getting back into her town and being like,
"okay. Okay. I want you to take June out.
I want you to salt the earth."
You know, like, why do you think she'll follow through?
I do think virginia's entire power structure
Is built on deals like this.
I don't think virginia has anything
Without trust on some level.
And she's done that with a large group of people,
But, also, I think every member
Of her -- of her team is there
Because she has made some sort of appeal
To them in some way.
And I-I don't think
That this gift that June has given virginia,
I.E. Her life,
Is lost -- is lost on virginia.
I don't think she would be anywhere without that.
Jenna, what do you think it says about where June is at right now
That, okay, she asked for the hospital,
She asked for wendell's return, but not to leave with john?
I think she's just trusting that he'll fall into step with this
And that things are aligned and expanding
And, "look, I've got -- I've made something happen
That's really important,
And my job is important to virginia,
You know, my abilities and what I have to offer."
So I think it's like June's a little high
On this accomplishment and -- and trusting
That that's naively gonna infect him
With some more upbeat forward motion,
Which clearly it does not.
Well, coming up next, we're gonna keep talking "fear."
We're also gonna be joined by annet mahendru
And michael cudlitz to talk "world beyond."
But, first, before virginia joins
The one-hand hall of fame
Along with merle, aaron, and comic-book rick,
Let's slow things down
And say a final farewell to all those we've lost tonight.
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Welcome back to "mega talking dead home edition."
We've been talking "fear the walking dead,"
Which we will continue to do, but now,
With the addition of "world beyond,"
We're joined by huck herself, annet mahendru,
And michael cudlitz, who used to be abraham ford
And now is a director for "world beyond."
Thank you so much, both, for being here.
We got to learn what the -- a lot happened this episode.
First of all, we saw huck as a marine.
We saw some very difficult choices she had to make.
We learned where the scar came from.
Then we were also pretty stunned to find
Tony dead and percy missing
And silas passed out nearby.
So let's get into it.
The first question is a fan question from linea-1982
On instagram.
Cudlitz, how exciting was it to be behind the camera
For this new addition to the walking dead universe?
It was -- it was awesome. And it was --
It was kind of terrifying because the first three episodes
That I had directed of anything were in my home,
Which was "the walking dead,"
And it was obviously a friendly camp,
And I knew the dp, I knew the cast,
I knew everybody, and everyone was there
And wanting me to succeed.
This was the first time I ventured out
To new ground with new dps, new cast, new everything.
So, for me, it was a little nerve-racking,
But, as always, it's -- you just bury yourself in the work
And in the stories and the character,
And everything else will take care of itself.
You know, before we -- before we were getting ready to shoot,
When annet signed on to the chat,
Jenna said, "oh, I just want to tell you
You were so phenomenal in this episode."
And, annet, you really were phenomenal in this episode.
Can you talk a little bit about preparation?
Did you do any marine training to prepare? What went into it?
I feel like I could say I did the whole boot camp.
I had the whole boot-camp experience
Because besides all the fight training we do every day
Just to, you know, fight off the empties,
We also -- on this episode, I worked with two sergeants.
There was the real sergeant freddy
And sergeant ford over here.
So -- and one put me, you know, through all the push-ups
And -- and all the kind of talking smack to each other,
You know, sitting with the boys
And, um, you know, getting my weapon up
And carrying the heavy packs and sort of, you know,
Being ready when I needed to be ready
And make it through that long tunnel
That you see huck go through.
And that was my biggest fear. I was like,
"there's no way I can, you know,
Keep this 10-pound rifle up the whole time."
And the good thing was, you know,
We had -- we had michael there, who really did all the,
You know, heart-and-soul work, all the real heavy lifting.
And then on the topic of preparation, jenna, you had
So many medically technical scenes tonight on "fear."
Did you have any specific training for that?
Yeah, so, that opening scene where we do the surgery,
We had to, um --
I kept telling them like,
"please. You have to have a medical person.
I need to have a full rehearsal.
Not on set when we're filming.
I cannot have that time pressure."
Like, I need a separate --
We filmed like three and a half hours
Just on that scene, the opening scene,
Because I really value nurses,
And I feel very honored to play one,
And I always really want to respect them and do it right.
And so we had an emt on set with me and --
Because, you know, it's not just,
"oh, how do I do a needle? How do I...?"
What are all of the things
She's thinking about and monitoring
While doing this and having this scene?
So I had to learn a little 101 on medical triage,
And I had him sometimes do the -- do the things
Or I'd have him walk my walk
So that I could just kind of see a real guy
Who's done this, how he conducts himself.
That scene is incredible. Honestly.
And the way that...Shot it.
The way he's passing on both sides of the gurney.
And you feel -- you know, you just feel fully engaged
That you know what you're doing.
And that's one of the things, being an actor and director
And watching you guys both,
Jenna and annet, in those scenes,
It's -- you do that training so you can forget
About that training, so you can focus on the scene.
But all of that other stuff is still alive
That makes you genuinely look like
You know what you're doing,
Which in turn adds to everything that we do.
So it was really just an amazing scene.
And, colby, just talking -- talking about preparation,
Did you -- did you -- was there a lot of fight training for you
For the -- for the fight scene with the walkers?
With -- uh, no. No. No, no.
They put this amazing guy, jason. Jason is so talented.
He's this -- he's this stunt guy
They use quite a lot on the show,
And they put this guy on top of me and just went,
"here's a foam rock. Just have at it."
And I was really nervous
About hitting him really hard.
I tend to kind of get into things a little too much,
And, like, I wanted to make it look real with, like, an impact
But also, like, not actually hit him in the head
With this foam rock, and he's like, "you can do
Anything to me, man. Like, I'm a pro wrestler.
You can just hit me. It's fine."
And I was like, "I c-- I actually can't!"
You know, but after every take, I'm like, "are you okay?"
And he's like, "oh, my god. Dude, I'm totally fine."
Like, he's incredible.
The stunt people on this -- on this whole universe
Are just tremendous.
So, yeah, I had no training.
Um, no training.
[ laughs ]
Jenna, I want to kind of explore this idea just a little bit
Before we go to break about -- when we --
Like I said, when we -- when we were kind of in the chat
Before we started recording, you were talking about
How much you enjoyed the "world beyond" episode.
What was it particularly that resonated for you this episode?
I'm obsessed with silas,
And I really don't like this guy that's come in.
I want iris and silas...
[laughter]
...To enhance each other's lives really badly.
And I was suspicious of all of them.
But, anyway, you know what I love?
Okay.
Um, I love -- okay.
So, we've been watching huck,
And we know she's got a backstory,
But we don't know what it is.
But I've been so captivated
By what annet has been doing.
I was very curious to know what brought her
To what I'm watching now.
And I loved her moral choice that she made,
And I love that the character chose her integrity over fear,
And I thought that was such a beautiful --
And it also touched upon to me the strength of femininity
And, when you have integrity with your femininity,
How powerful that is
And the humanity that came forth out of that choice she made.
I really -- it really impacted me,
And it made me very excited to keep watching her story.
Well, we're gonna take a quick break, but coming up,
We're gonna take a look at behind-the-scenes footage
Of the fiery explosion of tank town,
We're gonna have sneak peeks of both "world beyond" and "fear,"
But, first, before you deduce that the murderer was silas
In the bathroom with the wrench,
Let's slow things down
And say a final farewell to all those we've lost tonight.
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[ chuckles ]
[ gunshot ]
Family.
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It's a thing. Who knew?
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Royale: Initially when we come across percy,
Everyone is like, "this is an immediate threat,"
And iris is like, "meh. Let's hear him out.
You hungry? We got some food if you want."
And I think that's so great.
Eventually, he becomes a bit of intrigue for iris,
Which is always fun to have.
We meet tony, his uncle,
Who is always gonna be a magician
And is always gonna be
That amazing great performer at heart.
Tony has gone through a lot of turmoil.
He is seeing the world as it is now,
And he is still who he always was.
Tony's death is a major breaking point,
And it made me very sad to see tony go.
Welcome back to "mega talking dead home edition."
That was aliyah royale on how iris feels
About percy and tony.
We are here with annet and colby and jenna and cudlitz.
So, cudlitz, first of all, I've known scott adsit for years.
He is an incredible actor
And one of the most brilliant comedy improvisers
Literally in the history of improv.
Can you talk a little bit about some of the magic stuff
And some of the behind-the-scenes stuff
With tony?
We got a sleight-of-hand magician in virginia.
And I just basically said, "look.
I don't want this to take away from -- from anything.
But anything you can learn over the course of these three days,
Please do.
So, he's available to you whenever you want to use him.
Take that time. Anything you can do will help.
Even the showmanship of it, the things you do."
I said, "whatever we have to do, we'll fix it.
If you drop the card, we'll cut it out.
We'll visual-effects whatever we have to do.
We don't want to, but we have that option."
Well, he did everything.
Everything you see
Is him doing sleight of hand live on film.
We retouched nothing. He just killed it.
And, again, it's what we're talking about with you guys
Learning your things and then forgetting it
And almost making it -- it just becomes part of you.
It enhanced everything about what he did from then on.
Colby, do you think virginia --
How do you think virginia would respond
To, like, having a magician come in
And play at the -- I don't know a lot in community playhouse or whatever like dude.
Would that be -- would that be a welcome addition
Or do you think she would not trust someone
Who was basically a grifter?
Well, if the magician is scott adsit, like,
A million percent, virginia would be like, "come on."
I do think she would not --
I do think virginia values, um, entertainment.
I mean, her -- she tries to provide her people
With everything, but I think the times that scott --
I'm calling him scott because I love scott --
Was...She would lock him in the dungeon
'cause she doesn't trust magicians.
But entertainment obviously would be vital.
You know, like, we saw that in "world beyond"
With the puppet show and how moving that was
And how -- how it kind of made everyone reflective
And brought everyone together through the storytelling.
I want to shift a little bit, though, and ask annet...
What do you think about the fact that they found
Silas in the stall near tony's body?
That's -- doesn't look great for silas.
I was just gonna ask jenna.
I was like, "you still like silas after all that?"
After he took out our favorite magician?
Could have crossed over into "fear."
[ laughter ]
You know what? I mean, huck,
She's kind of been
Bullying silas around for a reason, right?
She's -- she knew this guy had a lot of baggage
And that he was a loose end.
And you didn't know when his trauma was gonna, you know,
Spill over into these heightened circumstances
That we're dealing with every day.
And now we have a murder, we have a guy missing,
And he is drunk in a stall.
So it's now a tough -- kind of tough call to make.
Well, also just a group of people who, you know,
Up until quite recently in their timeline
Were in this community, behind these safe walls,
And then now they're just -- they're literally
Out in the world and kind of having to solve a murder
And trying to figure out what to do about it.
And, jenna, you were still nodding when you were like,
"yeah, I'm still team silas."
You still seem -- you're still on board.
[laughter]
I have very strong feelings about silas.
I very -- feel very connected to silas.
I think he's got a beautiful transition
Coming up where he's going to be able to --
Or I hope, because I would love to see this --
But to have -- to be validated
For everything he's gone through
And that his actions will be validated
Because he is a good person.
But we still don't know if he did it.
I'm curious to hear his -- exactly.
I'm curious to hear his side of the story.
Iris has good instincts, too, and she went for percy.
-I -- -[laughter]
That's just -- that's just a -- that's just a bad-boy thing.
You know? That's like -- even in the apocalypse,
The girls are still going after the bad boys. We get it.
-I don't trust percy at all. -Personally,
I'm a silas guy. By the way, bad boys --
Like, you're talking about a guy --
Like, a bad boy in his case is just basically
He can just make a coin appear in your ear.
Like, he's a magician. You know, when I was in college,
I had a juggling bag.
I thought it was gonna make me popular. It didn't.
So I --
[ laughter ]
Yeah, but you never woke up -- you never woke up drunk --
...Drums and torches, thinking, "oh, I look so cool."
Yeah, but you didn't wake up drunk in a bathroom
With a dead guy.
And we still don't know if silas did it.
We still don't know. We're making inferences
Based on what it looked like, but we still don't know.
And, you know, so it --
Anything's possible at this point.
We're gonna take a quick break.
We have a behind-the-scenes look
At the fiery explosion of tank town on "fear"
And then also sneak peeks of both shows.
We'll be right back on "mega talking dead home edition."
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We're standing in the middle of what we call tank town.
We established this location last season,
And it's basically like a pirate refinery.
Everything other than rock and cliff walls
Was brought in here.
When we first started thinking about was gonna happen for June this season,
We knew that we wanted to really put her into the fire,
Really give her a big challenge,
And so it kind of came naturally that we would do something
Really explosive and really dangerous.
So we also had to deal with tank town,
And so we decided to sort of merge those two things
And create a big disaster here
That would really give June some serious challenges.
So, I was really excited knowing that there was gonna be
An explosion, 'cause that's always fun.
And our special-effects team is so talented.
Guys, I love you, but you gotta go. We're loading bombs.
We've been here for like three weeks now
Working every day, testing different elements, you know?
We have some exploding barrels that'll fly up in the air.
We've managed to make the oil derrick squirt boil
And now transition into fire, and then at the very end,
You know, all of the explosions
Propagate to a huge cluster of barrels
That will then explode.
The biggest explosion that we've done
For "fear the walking dead," so we're excited.
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Welcome back to "mega talking dead home edition."
We're back with jenna and colby and annet and cudlitz.
So, jenna, in the thing we just saw, you looked freezing.
You're wrapped in a blanket. Was it as cold as it looked?
It was so cold.
No, it's like --
Okay. I was a professional ballerina.
I know pain.
I can work through pain at exponential levels.
This was hours and hours and hours and hours
Of being sopping wet
In like 30-degree, 28-degree weather.
It was -- oh, my god.
And I'm, you know, happy to be there, love the story,
Love the actors. Like, everything is "yes."
But, oh, my god.
It was brutal! It was brutal.
But amazing because you're filming -- you know,
You can always take that because you're filming something
That's brutal, whether it's emotionally
Or physically challenging, on this show.
There's always something brutal happening.
So you can just take the elements
And put it into what you're filming.
But it was really hard.
Did you have the same experience, colby?
There were moments where, like, you know,
I have to come out and shoot a bunch of walkers,
And I could not cock the gun.
My hand was completely frozen.
And so I was using my leg to cock the gun.
I was, like, placing the gun against my leg
In, like, support.
And eddie, who's, like, a total sweetheart,
Was like, "I see what you're doing.
It looks okay.
I want you to look as much of a badass as possible,
But I know you have to do that."
I was like, "I'm trying. I'm trying."
But, yeah.
Annet, is there anything you wanted to ask jenna or colby
About their experience on "fear,"
Whether from a character perspective
Or behind the camera or whatever?
Yeah.
Is virginia a righty or a lefty?
And how she is gonna...
Virginia is -- she's -- you know, she's, um --
Is that the hand?!
This is the hand. You know, she's a lefty.
She's a lefty now.
[laughter]
They let you keep the hand!
Cudlitz: She's actually -- she's a lefty,
But she's got a mean right hook.
[ laughter ]
How does it look up close?
I did beg for this hand.
How gross is it up close?
It lives in my planter. It comes out.
It was perfect for Halloween.
Can we get a close-up on the bite?
I kind of want to see the bite. How does it look in person?
Oh, my god. It's real gnarly.
She really had to cut her hand off.
Like, it's real gnarly.
Oh, my gosh. That's fantastic.
I love that you -- I love that you have it.
-Cudlitz, do you -- -that's so comforting.
Do you have any props?
Did you take home any props from "walking dead"?
I was gonna take my -- my head
The cast of my head from smashing it in.
I asked greg. I was like, "you got to get me one of those."
He's like, "what?" I go, "you got --
Like, you have to agree to give me one of those."
He's like, "o-okay."
And then my wife found out I had one coming,
And she's like, "yeah, that's not coming into the house."
I was like, "why?"
You saw it on the internet, and the thing --
They have skittles coming out of it.
She's like, "no. No." I mean, she's right.
Who wants to, you know -- who wants your own head
Actually smashed in laying around the house?
My wife, who collects horror-movie props...
I came home like -- if I worked --
Even if I worked on not a horror show,
She'd be like, "can you get a cast of your head?"
I came home one day, and she had --
She had "the exorcist,"
Like, the regan -- demonic regan prop
That was used at universal studios
For the Halloween horror nights.
She bought it at an auction,
And it was just sitting in the front of the house.
And I'm not, like, squeamish about that stuff,
And I was like, "jesus chr--"
Like, it floored me.
And my wife thought it was the greatest thing in the world.
So if you still have that head,
Lydia will happily take it off your hands.
I could probably -- I can probably procure it
If it's a call to greg.
We just have to take a quick break.
We'll be right back on "mega talking dead home edition."
♪♪
Welcome back to "mega talking dead home edition."
It is now time for the sneak peek
That I've been promising of next week's episode
Of "world beyond." here it is.
[high-pitched whine]
[indistinct shouting]
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[whine and shouting stop]
[squishing]
[man coughing]
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Dad?
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Dad.
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You...
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Wipe that stupid look off your face and answer me.
Answer me! Are you a pig?!
Disrespecting the house your grandparents left for us?!
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You gonna make a mess?!
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I'll teach you!
I'll teach you to disrespect this house!
[grunts]
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So it looks like we're gonna get a glimpse
Into some of silas' past, which looks terrifying.
And building off of that, cudlitz,
The themes of light and dark are ever-present
On all the "walking dead" shows.
As a director, what are some of the ways
That you capture that on camera?
It's interesting.
All of our characters have light and dark in them.
It's -- you know, we talk about --
When I was on the original show,
I talk about our group, rick's group.
If rick's group came across rick's group in the woods,
We would kill them because they're lunatics.
It's all whose -- it's all the --
Whose eyes are you seeing the story through?
As with silas.
We see this -- this guy who the world has painted a monster,
And now slowly we're seeing who he -- who he really is
And how he became who he is,
And then -- then it's for you to judge later
Whether you really still think he's a monster or not,
But at least you understand where he's come from,
And that's one of the wonderful things
I think the show does with -- with all of its --
With all of its characters and especially its villains.
Yeah, well, and all the shows in the universe,
Which kind of -- I'm curious for annet.
So, hen we're talking about this idea of, like,
Understanding who the characters are
And why we view some characters as protagonists
And why we view some as antagonists,
Can you just talk about how
Watching other "walking dead" shows kind of help?
Did it -- did that help you solidify
Huck's character at all or give you
A better understanding of how you wanted to portray her?
Yeah, when I got the sides initially,
There were two cops, felix and huck.
Huck was the one who was kind of, like,
Pushing felix to do something he wasn't quite ready to do.
And, you know,
I-I started doing all my homework,
Started watching the shows from the beginning.
And jon bernthal -- I thought he really
Kicked off the show proper,
And he was in a -- you know, they were partners,
Him and rick, and it sort of really resonated
With what was coming, the first glimpses
I was getting of our show, of "world beyond."
And I sort of saw felix and huck
In shane and rick a little bit.
So I took -- I took shane with me a little bit.
Not gonna lie. Had a little crush.
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Me too.
All right. This is from chris w. On facebook.
And chris wants to know --
Colby, how did someone as young as virginia
Come to influence and control so many people?
Well, virginia was a corporate efficiency expert
Before, uh, the apocalypse,
So, to me, she's always been just very, like,
Trimming the fat.
She --- that's how she's structured herself.
I also think age --
Like, we can't -- we can't really determine
Or judge people based on their age in this world.
As -- as the amazing characters in the "world beyond" know,
As you know, annet,
Like, no matter how young you are,
You are -- you are dealing with super extreme circumstances,
And age is just a number in the apocalypse.
Right. And, jenna, can you just talk a little bit about
What it means to you that thematically both episodes
Revolved around and portray such incredibly powerful
And passionate female central characters?
The walking dead universe has always been really good
With female stories, you know, with --
I mean, from the beginning. So --
But to have this much screen time be about that
And also with, you know,
Annet's story with huck, I just feel reassured.
I'm hopeful.
I'm just so pleased and grateful.
And it meant the world to me to have a female writer
And to play this with colby.
And, um, yeah, like, I have no words for how happy
I am with that opportunity and for that to continue.
I think gale anne hurd is very intent on that,
And it's a huge purpose of hers as a feminist
To make sure that our stories are being told and not just,
Like, a condiment, you know?
It's like, "oh..."
It's like -- actually make it the main meal,
And -- and it's incredible.
Well, and, again, flawless performances across the board.
We have to take a quick break. When we come back,
We have an exclusive sneak peek of next week's episode
Of "fear the walking dead," so we'll be right back on
"mega talking dead home edition."
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Good.
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Alicia.
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Someone did that to it.
Whoever did that is crazy.
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All right. I mean, it looks like someone
Is augmenting walkers, which is amazing!
Let's see. As we -- as we're kind of rounding this out,
Um, jenna, how did it feel for you as a fan of the show
Just watching from that third -- that third-person perspective,
Watching john drive off in a different direction?
I felt my heart, like, slide down
Into my gut.
Um...
I actually -- so, watching it, that's how it made me feel.
I just -- obviously I had read the script,
And obviously I know what's -- you know, what the story is,
But actually filming that last scene in the episode
That he and I have together before we take off
Where I'm telling him what happened,
While we were filming that, I kept --
I had to -- in between takes, I was off --
Out of nowhere, I was like -- I kept crying.
I kept crying.
I had to, like, go, "(bleep). I'm so embarrassed."
Because gareth's so cazh.
You know, he's, like, not emotional about any of it.
You know, and I'm, like -- [sobs]
I was embarrassed, but I was crying 'cause I knew
That this was, like, what he was gonna go do.
Jenna knew what he was gonna go do.
And it was really affecting me on a very deep emotional level,
And I kept tearing up.
I was very emotional during that scene
And had to like, peel, that emotion off
And be this June that's sort of optimistic
About what she just accomplished.
And they'd yell, "cut," and I would literally
Get overcome with emotion because it was like
Those two moments were happening for me at the same time.
It was knowing that he was gonna abandon,
And I'm feeling the emotion of June
With the hope and optimism.
And so it was this weird collision of emotion
That was happening in my heart and soul,
And it was really hard.
When I say goodbye to eugene on the show,
Abraham says goodbye to eugene,
Michael knew that he was not
Gonna be working with josh anymore.
So me saying goodbye to eugene was me saying goodbye to josh,
And that was our last scene, and I knew,
And we have this hug and this thing, and it just --
I mean, it just wrecked me.
It affects you, you know, and especially when you know
What's happening down the road
And we've read the scripts, we've read the stories,
And to have to jump back in time
And play it as if that's not gonna happen
Is -- is sometimes really difficult, so I feel you.
Jenna: Yeah, it was just very out of character
For john to leave, you know? That just feels so --
You know, he's really struggling, for him
To actually leave her?
That -- that is just, like, on another level.
And this was breaking my heart, like, that he would do that.
I couldn't even reconcile that
In June or jenna's heart, you know?
It was just so heartbreaking to know
That he would, like, at that literal fork in the road
Go the other way. In keeping with that theme,
It actually pains me that we have to say goodbye right now.
This has been so wonderful to see all of you.
Michael cudlitz, amazing job directing the episode.
And jenna and colby and annet --
Again, just amazing performances.
Thank you so much for being great human beings
And then just being phenomenal on screen.
Everyone did such an incredible job.
My guests tonight have been
Jenna elfman, annet mahendru, colby minifie,
And, of course, michael cudlitz.
It's always great to see that you are still
In the walking dead universe actively, mr. Cudlitz.
Next week, we're gonna be
Joined by morgan himself, lennie james.
Colman domingo will also be here.
Aliyah royale, who plays iris. Hal cumpston, who's silas.
And annet's gonna join us again.
Thank you for joining us again next week, annet.
I am chris hardwick.
This is "mega talking dead home edition."
Please stay safe and healthy
And take care of each other out there.
We'll see you next week. Thanks. Bye-bye.