1 00:00:04,003 --> 00:00:06,304 Hello. And welcome to another "talking dead: Home edition." 2 00:00:06,306 --> 00:00:08,907 So this week's episode took us on a wild ride 3 00:00:08,909 --> 00:00:10,642 Inside the mind of princess. 4 00:00:10,644 --> 00:00:12,143 We learned what makes her tick, 5 00:00:12,145 --> 00:00:14,279 How she copes with stress and trauma. 6 00:00:14,281 --> 00:00:16,581 We learned about her pre-apocalyptic past. 7 00:00:16,583 --> 00:00:19,584 But what was real and what was a figment 8 00:00:19,586 --> 00:00:21,053 Of princess' imagination? 9 00:00:21,055 --> 00:00:22,320 We're going to talk all about that. 10 00:00:22,322 --> 00:00:24,523 Also, are the soldiers in white armor 11 00:00:24,525 --> 00:00:26,792 Going to harm eugene, yumiko, and ezekiel, 12 00:00:26,794 --> 00:00:28,593 Or are they there to help them? We don't know. 13 00:00:28,595 --> 00:00:30,596 And how will princess' state of mind 14 00:00:30,598 --> 00:00:33,065 Affect her standing within the group going forward? 15 00:00:33,067 --> 00:00:35,334 We have interviews with the executive producers 16 00:00:35,336 --> 00:00:36,802 All about what you just watched, 17 00:00:36,804 --> 00:00:38,470 Some inside info from tonight's episode 18 00:00:38,472 --> 00:00:40,039 That you can't get anywhere else, 19 00:00:40,041 --> 00:00:43,542 A very special "in memoriam", and an exclusive sneak peek 20 00:00:43,544 --> 00:00:45,878 Of next week's episode of "the walking dead." 21 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,313 My guests tonight are princess herself, paola lázaro, 22 00:00:48,315 --> 00:00:50,249 Khary payton, aka ezekiel, 23 00:00:50,251 --> 00:00:52,350 Supervising producer and co-writer of tonight's episode 24 00:00:52,352 --> 00:00:53,619 Vivian tse, 25 00:00:53,621 --> 00:00:56,121 And comedian and one of my all-time favorite people 26 00:00:56,123 --> 00:00:57,622 In the world ron funches. 27 00:00:57,624 --> 00:00:58,824 I am chris hardwick, 28 00:00:58,826 --> 00:01:01,493 And this is "talking dead: Home edition." 29 00:01:01,495 --> 00:01:07,566 ♪♪ 30 00:01:07,568 --> 00:01:13,772 ♪♪ 31 00:01:13,774 --> 00:01:15,374 All right, the conversation's just beginning. 32 00:01:15,376 --> 00:01:16,908 Of course we want to hear from you. 33 00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:19,511 Tweet us, hit us up on instagram @amctalkingdead. 34 00:01:19,513 --> 00:01:21,447 Or you can go to "talking dead's" facebook page. 35 00:01:21,449 --> 00:01:23,949 Please say hello to my guests, paola lázaro, khary payton, 36 00:01:23,951 --> 00:01:26,919 Vivian tse, and ron funches. 37 00:01:28,055 --> 00:01:32,291 Paola, were you given a heads-up 38 00:01:32,293 --> 00:01:36,061 About the twists in the episode before you read the script? 39 00:01:36,063 --> 00:01:37,729 I was not given a heads-up, 40 00:01:37,731 --> 00:01:40,599 And I am so thankful that I was not given a heads-up 41 00:01:40,601 --> 00:01:44,937 Because when I read it, I mean, I spoke to khary afterwards, 42 00:01:44,939 --> 00:01:47,472 And -- and when we were reading it, 43 00:01:47,474 --> 00:01:49,808 We were like, "why is ezekiel being so mean?" 44 00:01:49,810 --> 00:01:52,677 Like, I was like, "what -- what is going on? 45 00:01:52,679 --> 00:01:55,280 Are we changing? Like, the show is changing. What is this?" 46 00:01:55,282 --> 00:01:57,483 And khary was like, "yeah, I didn't know 47 00:01:57,485 --> 00:01:58,750 What was going on with my character. 48 00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:00,819 I was mad. Like, why is he being so mean?" 49 00:02:00,821 --> 00:02:04,155 So not knowing the twist that was going to happen 50 00:02:04,157 --> 00:02:07,559 In the script was perfect for reading it 51 00:02:07,561 --> 00:02:10,562 Because it really, once that shift happened, 52 00:02:10,564 --> 00:02:14,633 It really broke me emotionally, and I love that I didn't know. 53 00:02:14,635 --> 00:02:17,035 Yeah, no, I love that I didn't know, either, 54 00:02:17,037 --> 00:02:20,973 Because, honestly, uh, julia and vivian, 55 00:02:20,975 --> 00:02:23,375 Who wrote this episode, didn't tell anybody. 56 00:02:23,377 --> 00:02:26,978 They had this idea, and they kept it a secret from everybody. 57 00:02:26,980 --> 00:02:30,515 And it was, like -- and it was the best secret to keep 58 00:02:30,517 --> 00:02:31,917 Because I was so mad. 59 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,453 I was like -- I was like my grandma watching her stories. 60 00:02:34,455 --> 00:02:36,521 She was like, "why would so and so talk like that? 61 00:02:36,523 --> 00:02:38,189 He would never say that to so and so." 62 00:02:38,191 --> 00:02:41,793 I was -- it was -- I was just -- I was mad. I was angry. 63 00:02:41,795 --> 00:02:44,129 I was -- I was sending e-mails. 64 00:02:44,131 --> 00:02:46,732 And then -- and then I read the -- read the -- 65 00:02:46,734 --> 00:02:48,199 The -- the -- the switch. 66 00:02:48,201 --> 00:02:50,369 And I just thought, "this is the most brilliant thing." 67 00:02:50,371 --> 00:02:52,738 So brilliant. -Ron, when did you realize 68 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:56,874 That we were basically in a "fight club" moment? 69 00:02:56,876 --> 00:02:58,443 [laughs] 70 00:02:58,445 --> 00:03:00,946 When that soldier was coughing up blood. 71 00:03:00,948 --> 00:03:03,482 I didn't know what was going on. 72 00:03:03,484 --> 00:03:05,150 And, oh, I just was like, 73 00:03:05,152 --> 00:03:07,219 "okay, this is" -- first of all, I was excited 74 00:03:07,221 --> 00:03:09,621 Because I was like, "the princess and the king. 75 00:03:09,623 --> 00:03:12,824 This is fun for me. I like this duo together." 76 00:03:12,826 --> 00:03:15,493 And then he started getting very aggressive 77 00:03:15,495 --> 00:03:17,963 And then was like, "no one's hurting me anymore." 78 00:03:17,965 --> 00:03:19,764 And I was like, "this is more information 79 00:03:19,766 --> 00:03:21,366 Than I was aware of." 80 00:03:21,368 --> 00:03:24,636 And then it turned, and I was like, "oh, I get this. 81 00:03:24,638 --> 00:03:26,571 It makes sense." and it was a new part 82 00:03:26,573 --> 00:03:29,041 In "the walking dead" universe I'd never really seen before. 83 00:03:29,043 --> 00:03:32,110 We've seen a lot of trauma and emotional struggles, 84 00:03:32,112 --> 00:03:35,814 But mostly how they portray that is outwardly, 85 00:03:35,816 --> 00:03:38,349 The way that they act towards each other. 86 00:03:38,351 --> 00:03:41,987 To see someone actually deal with traumas and visions 87 00:03:41,989 --> 00:03:44,055 And things of that nature, I thought, was very interesting, 88 00:03:44,057 --> 00:03:45,791 And I enjoyed it very much. 89 00:03:45,793 --> 00:03:48,092 Khary, how did it affect your performance, 90 00:03:48,094 --> 00:03:51,997 Knowing that ezekiel is a figment 91 00:03:51,999 --> 00:03:54,666 Or an extension of princess in that moment? 92 00:03:54,668 --> 00:03:56,167 I just loved it. 93 00:03:56,169 --> 00:03:59,271 It really let me kind of, you know, release 94 00:03:59,273 --> 00:04:01,607 All of that worry about, you know, you know, 95 00:04:01,609 --> 00:04:03,875 Am I being true to the character, you know? 96 00:04:03,877 --> 00:04:05,743 Because it was -- because I -- 97 00:04:05,745 --> 00:04:07,679 Because princess barely knew ezekiel. 98 00:04:07,681 --> 00:04:12,217 So -- so she was really just unloading a lot of herself 99 00:04:12,219 --> 00:04:14,085 Onto -- onto this guy, 100 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:15,620 And -- and, you know? 101 00:04:15,622 --> 00:04:19,558 And so, I felt like he was part family, part protector, 102 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,393 And -- and maybe like -- like pieces 103 00:04:22,395 --> 00:04:26,030 Of several different human beings 104 00:04:26,032 --> 00:04:28,566 That she's met along her journey, you know. 105 00:04:28,568 --> 00:04:30,836 So it kind of let me go for broke. 106 00:04:30,838 --> 00:04:34,506 You know, I loved -- I loved stepping behind her 107 00:04:34,508 --> 00:04:36,641 And kind of whispering in her ear 108 00:04:36,643 --> 00:04:38,443 Like the devil on her shoulder, 109 00:04:38,445 --> 00:04:41,780 You know, or -- or that -- or that guy at the club 110 00:04:41,782 --> 00:04:44,115 Who's just trying to instigate a fight, you know? 111 00:04:44,117 --> 00:04:45,917 He doesn't want to fight. He's just -- he's saying, 112 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:47,653 "no, no, man, he can't stand you. 113 00:04:47,655 --> 00:04:48,854 I heard him say it the other day." 114 00:04:48,856 --> 00:04:49,988 You know what I mean? 115 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:51,923 Just -- just try and get him to -- 116 00:04:51,925 --> 00:04:53,725 Get him to get something started. 117 00:04:53,727 --> 00:04:55,127 It was a lot of fun for me. 118 00:04:55,129 --> 00:04:57,329 Well, vivian, as co-writer of tonight's episode, 119 00:04:57,331 --> 00:04:59,464 Thank you so much for coming to the show, by the way. 120 00:04:59,466 --> 00:05:02,467 It's so wonderful to be able to have writers and producers on. 121 00:05:02,469 --> 00:05:05,470 Just, sort of, we've had such a wonderful time 122 00:05:05,472 --> 00:05:08,339 Get-- getting y'all's insight into how this all happened. 123 00:05:08,341 --> 00:05:10,542 And you wrote this episode with julia ruchman. 124 00:05:10,544 --> 00:05:12,477 How did you pitch this idea to angela 125 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:14,145 Without spoiling the twist? 126 00:05:14,147 --> 00:05:16,748 No. I mean, usually, you know, you don't hide stuff from the showrunner. 127 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:18,349 That's not really how it goes. 128 00:05:18,351 --> 00:05:20,084 You know, usually the showrunner -- 129 00:05:20,086 --> 00:05:21,219 [laughter] 130 00:05:21,221 --> 00:05:24,156 Usually the showrunner knows what you're doing, 131 00:05:24,158 --> 00:05:26,691 And she knows the arc of the episode, 132 00:05:26,693 --> 00:05:29,094 And she'll generally know what we're -- 133 00:05:29,096 --> 00:05:30,695 You know, what story you're telling. 134 00:05:30,697 --> 00:05:33,231 But we realized, as we were coming up with this that, 135 00:05:33,233 --> 00:05:35,500 You know, it's sort of like, if you tell a joke too many times, 136 00:05:35,502 --> 00:05:38,403 It just loses its -- its funny. 137 00:05:38,405 --> 00:05:40,906 So we pitched it to her cold in the room. 138 00:05:40,908 --> 00:05:43,040 She had no idea what was happening. 139 00:05:43,042 --> 00:05:45,510 And she -- she -- she heard the t-- the turn 140 00:05:45,512 --> 00:05:47,512 Like everybody else did, so... 141 00:05:47,514 --> 00:05:50,549 And it worked, so she let us write it. Yeah. 142 00:05:50,551 --> 00:05:52,584 I mean, we were this close to not being able to write it 143 00:05:52,586 --> 00:05:54,719 Because she was like, "what is the idea?" 144 00:05:54,721 --> 00:05:56,654 And we were like, "I can't give you the idea 145 00:05:56,656 --> 00:05:57,789 Without giving it away. 146 00:05:57,791 --> 00:05:59,725 Like, I can't tell you the idea. 147 00:05:59,727 --> 00:06:01,192 You'll know everything." 148 00:06:01,194 --> 00:06:04,162 And so, we just had to, like, tell our showrunner 149 00:06:04,164 --> 00:06:06,664 She couldn't know what the episode was about. 150 00:06:06,666 --> 00:06:07,999 Oh, well. -That's great, but it obviously worked. 151 00:06:08,001 --> 00:06:09,367 It obviously worked. 152 00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:11,536 Well, just sort of talking about the larger story 153 00:06:11,538 --> 00:06:14,339 That's going on in this episode. 154 00:06:14,341 --> 00:06:18,210 Ron, do you think eugene is to blame for this whole mess? 155 00:06:18,212 --> 00:06:20,679 Do you think stephanie set a trap, 156 00:06:20,681 --> 00:06:22,513 Or -- or do you think like, "no, no, no, 157 00:06:22,515 --> 00:06:24,749 It's -- it's all going to be fine"? 158 00:06:24,751 --> 00:06:26,418 No, chris, I've seen this before. 159 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:28,019 I've seen this many times 160 00:06:28,021 --> 00:06:31,156 As a person who watches a lot of reality shows 161 00:06:31,158 --> 00:06:33,492 And a lot of -- in particular "90 day fiancé" -- 162 00:06:33,494 --> 00:06:36,294 I know when a guy is getting catfished. 163 00:06:36,296 --> 00:06:40,098 And eugene is the perfect person for that to happen to. 164 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:42,701 He is so sweet. He is so trusting. -Ohh! 165 00:06:42,703 --> 00:06:44,235 He is like, "oh, I never met her, 166 00:06:44,237 --> 00:06:46,671 But I'm sending her 2 grand a month." 167 00:06:46,673 --> 00:06:49,640 I'm sure that she'll [indistinct] into this society." 168 00:06:49,642 --> 00:06:51,376 [all laughing] 169 00:06:51,378 --> 00:06:54,579 -Oh! -She's really with the only guy that could get catfished 170 00:06:54,581 --> 00:06:56,047 With, like, a ham radio. 171 00:06:56,049 --> 00:07:00,184 Like, that's just so -- that's just so eugene. 172 00:07:00,186 --> 00:07:01,919 -Poor guy. -Oh, man. 173 00:07:01,921 --> 00:07:03,988 If eugene showed up and stephanie 174 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:06,791 Was a literal catfish being like, 175 00:07:06,793 --> 00:07:08,960 "I was just messing with you," I think we'd go, "it checks. 176 00:07:08,962 --> 00:07:12,030 It checks out. It checks out." 177 00:07:12,032 --> 00:07:13,732 Well, we're going to take a quick break. 178 00:07:13,734 --> 00:07:14,999 Coming up next, we have interviews 179 00:07:15,001 --> 00:07:16,868 With the executive producers about tonight's episode, 180 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:18,703 Plus an exclusive sneak peek 181 00:07:18,705 --> 00:07:20,338 Of next week's episode of "the walking dead." 182 00:07:20,340 --> 00:07:23,341 But first, before you expect to see an "in memoriam" this week 183 00:07:23,343 --> 00:07:25,677 And discover that this is the first time 184 00:07:25,679 --> 00:07:29,714 In "walking dead" history that no person or walker has died, 185 00:07:29,716 --> 00:07:32,817 Let's slow things down and say a temporary farewell 186 00:07:32,819 --> 00:07:35,487 To the "in memoriam" we've lost tonight. 187 00:07:35,489 --> 00:07:43,495 ♪♪ 188 00:07:43,497 --> 00:07:51,503 ♪♪ 189 00:07:51,505 --> 00:07:59,511 ♪♪ 190 00:07:59,513 --> 00:08:07,519 ♪♪ 191 00:08:07,521 --> 00:08:15,527 ♪♪ 192 00:08:15,529 --> 00:08:19,598 ♪♪ 193 00:08:21,267 --> 00:08:25,804 ♪♪ 194 00:08:25,806 --> 00:08:29,808 Angela: The title "splinter" refers to, obviously, the literal splinter 195 00:08:29,810 --> 00:08:32,143 That she gets in the present day, 196 00:08:32,145 --> 00:08:36,214 As well as this memory she has of her abusive family 197 00:08:36,216 --> 00:08:39,216 And what it was like to live within that family. 198 00:08:39,218 --> 00:08:42,119 And then, obviously, there's this more figurative meaning 199 00:08:42,121 --> 00:08:45,156 Of as reality and sort of the fantasy 200 00:08:45,158 --> 00:08:47,359 That she has as a coping mechanism 201 00:08:47,361 --> 00:08:49,827 Sort of splinter off from each other. 202 00:08:49,829 --> 00:08:52,897 That was kind of the idea for this episode. 203 00:08:52,899 --> 00:08:54,899 I think princess is such an interesting character, 204 00:08:54,901 --> 00:08:57,569 And paola is such a fabulous actress 205 00:08:57,571 --> 00:08:59,905 And has brought such a great energy to the show. 206 00:08:59,907 --> 00:09:01,540 And we don't know much about her yet. 207 00:09:01,542 --> 00:09:04,843 So, again, the fact that we were given this opportunity 208 00:09:04,845 --> 00:09:07,511 To really delve into some of these characters, 209 00:09:07,513 --> 00:09:10,314 She was one that is really fun to get to know. 210 00:09:10,316 --> 00:09:11,783 She didn't have the best childhood. 211 00:09:11,785 --> 00:09:14,052 Her life wasn't perfect pre-apocalypse. 212 00:09:14,054 --> 00:09:17,455 As a result of that, how she's chosen 213 00:09:17,457 --> 00:09:19,457 To take care of herself and protect herself, 214 00:09:19,459 --> 00:09:22,193 And we see through the course of this episode 215 00:09:22,195 --> 00:09:23,861 A few of her defense mechanisms. 216 00:09:23,863 --> 00:09:25,397 She's basically talking to herself, 217 00:09:25,399 --> 00:09:26,998 And I think that's something princess has probably 218 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,866 Had to do a lot of her life, 219 00:09:28,868 --> 00:09:32,137 Even before the apocalypse, to sort of be her own friend, 220 00:09:32,139 --> 00:09:35,140 To take care of herself because she's led such a lonely life. 221 00:09:35,142 --> 00:09:38,343 ♪♪ 222 00:09:38,345 --> 00:09:39,878 Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition." 223 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,547 That was executive producers angela kang and denise huth 224 00:09:42,549 --> 00:09:44,282 Discussing how this episode explores 225 00:09:44,284 --> 00:09:46,785 Not only how princess copes with her past, 226 00:09:46,787 --> 00:09:48,753 But the apocalyptic world as a whole. 227 00:09:48,755 --> 00:09:51,889 And we're back with paola, khary, vivian, and ron. 228 00:09:51,891 --> 00:09:54,492 Paola, how did it feel for you to learn more 229 00:09:54,494 --> 00:09:57,896 About princess' pre-apocalypse backstory in this episode? 230 00:09:57,898 --> 00:10:00,298 I mean, it -- it was super-exciting for me. 231 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:04,168 Um, as an actor and as a performer, 232 00:10:04,170 --> 00:10:06,571 You want to be able to, like, 233 00:10:06,573 --> 00:10:09,641 Peel down the layers of the facade. 234 00:10:09,643 --> 00:10:14,111 Or, I mean, most of us have, like, a mask that we carry. 235 00:10:14,113 --> 00:10:17,382 And to be able to pull that mask off, you know, 236 00:10:17,384 --> 00:10:22,386 I got to relive moments of trauma for princess. 237 00:10:22,388 --> 00:10:24,522 And -- and again, as an actor, 238 00:10:24,524 --> 00:10:26,925 Like, getting to go to those places 239 00:10:26,927 --> 00:10:29,994 In, like, such a little timeframe is -- 240 00:10:29,996 --> 00:10:32,631 I mean, that's how I -- why I fell in love with the character. 241 00:10:32,633 --> 00:10:36,133 And do you feel like you have a-a deeper understanding of her 242 00:10:36,135 --> 00:10:38,703 After this episode than you had previously? 243 00:10:38,705 --> 00:10:40,604 Absolutely. Absolutely. 244 00:10:40,606 --> 00:10:43,541 I-I understand why she's impulsive. 245 00:10:43,543 --> 00:10:47,145 I understand why she laughs when it's not appropriate. 246 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:49,947 Um, I understand why she's loud. 247 00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:52,150 Like, I always had an instinct 248 00:10:52,152 --> 00:10:54,419 That, obviously, it came from the past and from trauma. 249 00:10:54,421 --> 00:10:58,923 But now I know exactly where those triggers come from. 250 00:10:58,925 --> 00:11:01,025 So it's -- it's super-exciting. 251 00:11:01,027 --> 00:11:04,229 And sort of -- and building off that, for vivian, 252 00:11:04,231 --> 00:11:06,163 What do you think it says about princess 253 00:11:06,165 --> 00:11:09,901 That she imagines these new friends of hers 254 00:11:09,903 --> 00:11:12,370 Acting pretty harshly towards her? 255 00:11:12,372 --> 00:11:13,871 What does that -- what does that say about her, 256 00:11:13,873 --> 00:11:15,974 That that's what's going on in her mind? 257 00:11:15,976 --> 00:11:17,641 Well, I think that says a lot 258 00:11:17,643 --> 00:11:20,244 About how she treats herself in general, 259 00:11:20,246 --> 00:11:23,848 You know, that she's pretty tough on herself. 260 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:28,185 And that's probably because people were tough on her. 261 00:11:28,187 --> 00:11:30,521 And she probably comes from -- 262 00:11:30,523 --> 00:11:32,190 Well, I know she comes from a background 263 00:11:32,192 --> 00:11:35,259 Where people were hard on her 264 00:11:35,261 --> 00:11:36,661 And treated her a certain way. 265 00:11:36,663 --> 00:11:39,397 And -- and so, I think a lot of times, 266 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:41,800 People, especially women, internalize that kind of stuff, 267 00:11:41,802 --> 00:11:44,602 Right, then, and they think it's their fault 268 00:11:44,604 --> 00:11:46,971 And they get worried that they're messing things up 269 00:11:46,973 --> 00:11:48,973 Or that they're going to ruin something 270 00:11:48,975 --> 00:11:50,942 Or that there's something not worthy about them. 271 00:11:50,944 --> 00:11:52,744 When she's projecting all those things 272 00:11:52,746 --> 00:11:55,546 That she thinks about herself on to these new friends that she makes, 273 00:11:55,548 --> 00:12:00,618 Like, it's just her coping with all the things 274 00:12:00,620 --> 00:12:02,721 That she maybe hates about herself 275 00:12:02,723 --> 00:12:05,089 Or worries that other people will hate about her. 276 00:12:05,091 --> 00:12:07,292 I mean, um, I'm getting -- I'm sorry. 277 00:12:07,294 --> 00:12:09,894 I'm, like, crying when you were speaking about that. 278 00:12:09,896 --> 00:12:12,096 It's the visual -- 279 00:12:12,098 --> 00:12:17,035 These -- these visions that she's having of her "friends" 280 00:12:17,037 --> 00:12:20,037 Are the visual representation of self-sabotage 281 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:23,107 And -- and us, you know, 282 00:12:23,109 --> 00:12:24,909 Speaking negatively to ourselves, 283 00:12:24,911 --> 00:12:26,711 And, oh, my god, it's just -- 284 00:12:26,713 --> 00:12:28,579 It was just so beautifully written. 285 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:30,648 And I'm sorry I got emotional, but -- because it's so true 286 00:12:30,650 --> 00:12:32,250 What you just said. 287 00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:33,717 -Well -- -thank you for sharing that. It's so true. 288 00:12:33,719 --> 00:12:35,920 But it's also -- it's also beautifully performed, paola. 289 00:12:35,922 --> 00:12:39,924 I mean, it's -- you understand so much in one episode. 290 00:12:39,926 --> 00:12:42,293 She's managed to -- to overcome a lot. 291 00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:45,296 And we've seen a lot of characters sort of have, 292 00:12:45,298 --> 00:12:46,931 I think, kind of what ron was saying before, 293 00:12:46,933 --> 00:12:48,733 This kind of external conflict 294 00:12:48,735 --> 00:12:51,069 But really seeing this one solitary character 295 00:12:51,071 --> 00:12:53,671 Come -- come through who has overcome 296 00:12:53,673 --> 00:12:56,006 A tremendous amount of internal conflict. 297 00:12:56,008 --> 00:12:57,875 Would you -- would you agree with that? 298 00:12:57,877 --> 00:13:00,278 Absolutely. Absolutely. 299 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,747 And it's a -- it's a great honor 300 00:13:02,749 --> 00:13:05,749 To get to portray that character. 301 00:13:05,751 --> 00:13:08,386 And -- and, yeah, and I think she has overcome that. 302 00:13:08,388 --> 00:13:10,554 And we see that at the end of the episode 303 00:13:10,556 --> 00:13:13,358 When she decides not to leave. 304 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,561 That is growth for her. Her instinct is always like, 305 00:13:16,563 --> 00:13:20,198 "oh, I'm f'ing this up. I got to run. 306 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,833 I got to run. This is why I can't be around people. 307 00:13:21,835 --> 00:13:23,735 This is why I can't have nice things. 308 00:13:23,737 --> 00:13:25,303 I got to run." 309 00:13:25,305 --> 00:13:28,706 And we see the shift that she decides, 310 00:13:28,708 --> 00:13:31,309 "I know I got to learn to live in a family, 311 00:13:31,311 --> 00:13:33,711 In a society, in a world." 312 00:13:33,713 --> 00:13:36,514 Um, so, yeah, I agree with what you said, 313 00:13:36,516 --> 00:13:38,550 But I also think that there's a beautiful moment, 314 00:13:38,552 --> 00:13:41,019 And maybe, vivian, you could correct me if I'm wrong, 315 00:13:41,021 --> 00:13:42,387 But there is a -- 316 00:13:42,389 --> 00:13:45,189 It's her kind of choosing to be a part of the group 317 00:13:45,191 --> 00:13:48,193 And choosing to be a part of the world and surviving 318 00:13:48,195 --> 00:13:50,628 And choosing something for herself, 319 00:13:50,630 --> 00:13:52,463 Saying, "I am worthy to have these things. 320 00:13:52,465 --> 00:13:54,599 I deserve to have these things. 321 00:13:54,601 --> 00:13:56,534 And I'm -- I'm good. I should have these things." 322 00:13:56,536 --> 00:13:58,203 Is that -- would you say that's true? 323 00:13:58,205 --> 00:14:00,337 It's all of that. It's like, "I am worthy, 324 00:14:00,339 --> 00:14:01,939 And in this moment, I feel worthy. 325 00:14:01,941 --> 00:14:04,275 Tomorrow I might not, but that's okay. 326 00:14:04,277 --> 00:14:06,044 I'll deal with that tomorrow." 327 00:14:06,046 --> 00:14:10,881 But it is absolutely her accepting herself in that moment 328 00:14:10,883 --> 00:14:15,753 And saying that, "there isn't anything wrong with me, 329 00:14:15,755 --> 00:14:18,089 That -- that -- that I'm okay right now. 330 00:14:18,091 --> 00:14:20,424 And I'm just going to go with that for now, 331 00:14:20,426 --> 00:14:22,560 Because these are my friends and I'm going to choose them 332 00:14:22,562 --> 00:14:24,162 For a second," you know? 333 00:14:24,164 --> 00:14:25,363 But as we're reminded -- 334 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:27,565 Because I -- it is -- it is hard to lose track of 335 00:14:27,567 --> 00:14:30,367 Just because of how the season sort of stretched out. 336 00:14:30,369 --> 00:14:33,137 "oh, yeah, she's only known this group for, like, a week." 337 00:14:33,139 --> 00:14:37,375 So from that perspective, you know, 338 00:14:37,377 --> 00:14:39,978 Do you think ezekiel and the group would trust princess 339 00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:42,113 To help save their lives at this point? 340 00:14:42,115 --> 00:14:44,248 I think that yumiko maybe takes it -- 341 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:46,517 Takes a little bit longer to -- to come around. 342 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:49,153 But I think that -- I think that 343 00:14:49,155 --> 00:14:54,592 Ezekiel has an immediate kinship with -- with princess, you know, 344 00:14:54,594 --> 00:14:56,661 Not just because they -- they -- 345 00:14:56,663 --> 00:15:00,531 They both tended towards, you know, nicknames of royalty, 346 00:15:00,533 --> 00:15:02,767 But they are a little bit extra. 347 00:15:02,769 --> 00:15:05,269 You know, both of them are a little bit extra. 348 00:15:05,271 --> 00:15:09,807 And -- and I think he sees her -- 349 00:15:09,809 --> 00:15:13,210 Her -- her journey 350 00:15:13,212 --> 00:15:16,146 And her way of coping with that journey 351 00:15:16,148 --> 00:15:19,350 And -- and -- and understands it and appreciates it. 352 00:15:19,352 --> 00:15:21,352 You know, it's like a -- it's like a football team 353 00:15:21,354 --> 00:15:23,821 Or a basketball team -- you know, everybody's not point guard. 354 00:15:23,823 --> 00:15:25,890 You got to have your center and your power forward. 355 00:15:25,892 --> 00:15:28,092 You got to have your -- your defensive linemen, 356 00:15:28,094 --> 00:15:30,694 And you got to have your -- your speedy receiver. 357 00:15:30,696 --> 00:15:36,100 And -- and he sees her -- her -- th-that she is that flash. 358 00:15:36,102 --> 00:15:38,703 She is that -- she is that running back that you give it to 359 00:15:38,705 --> 00:15:41,205 And -- and watch her go, you know? 360 00:15:41,207 --> 00:15:43,975 And you don't -- and it's the things that you don't practice, 361 00:15:43,977 --> 00:15:45,843 It's the things -- it's -- it's -- it's -- 362 00:15:45,845 --> 00:15:48,546 It's those jukes and moves that -- that she makes 363 00:15:48,548 --> 00:15:50,949 That you can't teach that -- that -- 364 00:15:50,951 --> 00:15:54,051 That makes -- makes princess special. 365 00:15:54,053 --> 00:15:57,655 And, by the way, it also is -- is what makes paola special. 366 00:15:57,657 --> 00:15:59,857 And I -- and I just have to -- I have to say, 367 00:15:59,859 --> 00:16:01,993 Just seeing the way that she reacts 368 00:16:01,995 --> 00:16:06,797 To the way that when vivian is explaining this character... 369 00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:09,533 I just hope everybody understands how -- 370 00:16:09,535 --> 00:16:13,604 How -- how awesome it is that -- that we found paola 371 00:16:13,606 --> 00:16:16,473 To -- to -- to play this part because -- because she wears it. 372 00:16:16,475 --> 00:16:18,709 -Agree. -Thank you. 373 00:16:18,711 --> 00:16:20,978 Ron, really quickly, 374 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:23,280 What imaginary friend from "the walking dead" 375 00:16:23,282 --> 00:16:26,551 Would you conjure up to help you cope with stress? 376 00:16:26,553 --> 00:16:28,987 Oh, maggie because she is resilient 377 00:16:28,989 --> 00:16:31,222 And beautiful and just fun to be around. 378 00:16:31,224 --> 00:16:33,224 That's an easy question. The answer. 379 00:16:33,226 --> 00:16:34,758 That's a simple question. -I got -- I got to go dale, 380 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,226 Because if I were stressed out, 381 00:16:36,228 --> 00:16:38,029 I'd just want to see that winnebago pulling up 382 00:16:38,031 --> 00:16:40,164 And a guy in a fishing hat being like, 383 00:16:40,166 --> 00:16:43,234 "come on, let's get out on the roof and go catch some fish." 384 00:16:43,236 --> 00:16:44,769 I'd be like, "take me!" 385 00:16:44,771 --> 00:16:47,371 -Yes. -You know, like I -- I -- I-I feel like, for me, 386 00:16:47,373 --> 00:16:50,708 It would be dale reaching down from the top of that rv, 387 00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:53,711 Just pulling me up to the top to -- to watch the sunset. -To get up. 388 00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:57,915 Well, chris, you and I have different priorities. 389 00:16:57,917 --> 00:17:00,585 [laughter] 390 00:17:00,587 --> 00:17:02,786 I think it's because -- I think it's because 391 00:17:02,788 --> 00:17:04,589 I'm getting to that place in my life 392 00:17:04,591 --> 00:17:06,657 Where I'm starting to feel like -- 393 00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:09,594 Like I want to put on a fishing hat and just hop in an rv. 394 00:17:09,596 --> 00:17:11,596 Like, I'm -- I'm starting to -- 395 00:17:11,598 --> 00:17:13,865 -Why not? -You know, like, I'm -- I'm missing the white beard, 396 00:17:13,867 --> 00:17:15,399 But it's -- but it's coming. 397 00:17:15,401 --> 00:17:16,867 I can feel it, you know? 398 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:19,103 Yeah. You got a griswold look to you. 399 00:17:19,105 --> 00:17:21,305 I see it. -Exactly. 400 00:17:21,307 --> 00:17:23,241 [laughter] 401 00:17:23,243 --> 00:17:26,544 -Chris is like, "I'm gonna hit 40 national parks this year." -oh (bleep) oh, shoot. 402 00:17:26,546 --> 00:17:29,313 -Well... -Wally world. 403 00:17:29,315 --> 00:17:31,349 Before we go to break -- 404 00:17:31,351 --> 00:17:33,818 [laughing] 405 00:17:33,820 --> 00:17:36,154 Before we go to break, if you want to get early access 406 00:17:36,156 --> 00:17:37,521 To episodes of "the walking dead" 407 00:17:37,523 --> 00:17:39,756 And "talking dead" and to see other shows you'll enjoy, 408 00:17:39,758 --> 00:17:43,261 Sign up for amc plus at amcplus.Com. 409 00:17:43,263 --> 00:17:45,195 Coming up, another interview with executive producer 410 00:17:45,197 --> 00:17:46,631 And showrunner angela kang. 411 00:17:46,633 --> 00:17:48,166 And later, we have an exclusive sneak peek 412 00:17:48,168 --> 00:17:49,267 Of next week's episode. 413 00:17:49,269 --> 00:17:50,567 We'll be right back. 414 00:17:50,569 --> 00:17:56,407 ♪♪ 415 00:17:59,377 --> 00:18:03,848 ♪♪ 416 00:18:03,850 --> 00:18:07,051 Angela: The interrogation that happens is incredibly intense, 417 00:18:07,053 --> 00:18:09,654 And I think there's a couple things at play. 418 00:18:09,656 --> 00:18:13,991 One is you're learning that this group is very serious 419 00:18:13,993 --> 00:18:17,661 And there are certain questions that they're asking that 420 00:18:17,663 --> 00:18:21,099 She doesn't really understand why it's important to them. 421 00:18:21,101 --> 00:18:23,134 But you're just getting kind of a window 422 00:18:23,136 --> 00:18:26,871 Into the way that they work, because there is a bureaucracy, 423 00:18:26,873 --> 00:18:30,141 And there are kind of protocols that they follow. 424 00:18:30,143 --> 00:18:33,243 And as real-life protocols can sometimes be, 425 00:18:33,245 --> 00:18:34,679 They're a little terrifying. 426 00:18:34,681 --> 00:18:36,747 Huth: We really only see princess' interrogation, 427 00:18:36,749 --> 00:18:39,416 But we get the sense they're asking everybody the same questions. 428 00:18:39,418 --> 00:18:42,687 And are the stories lining up? Is everybody telling the truth? 429 00:18:42,689 --> 00:18:44,955 I do think most of that interrogation was real. 430 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:46,624 It actually happened. 431 00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:49,360 And she's very much afraid of being the person to make it worse. 432 00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:53,764 And so, in that conversation, in trying not to make it worse, 433 00:18:53,766 --> 00:18:55,299 She probably, in some ways, did. 434 00:18:55,301 --> 00:18:58,035 She's not just going to give up information and play nice. 435 00:18:58,037 --> 00:19:00,804 She's going to say, "you don't get anything out of me 436 00:19:00,806 --> 00:19:02,173 Until I know my friends are okay." 437 00:19:02,175 --> 00:19:05,910 Her loyalty is absolute, and she will absolutely 438 00:19:05,912 --> 00:19:09,413 Never do anything to hurt these ♪♪people, if she can avoid it. 439 00:19:09,415 --> 00:19:12,449 ♪♪ 440 00:19:12,451 --> 00:19:13,850 Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition." 441 00:19:13,852 --> 00:19:16,053 That was executive producers angela kang and denise huth 442 00:19:16,055 --> 00:19:18,055 Discussing what that interrogation scene 443 00:19:18,057 --> 00:19:19,924 Tells us about this new group 444 00:19:19,926 --> 00:19:22,460 And what it means that princess is so loyal. 445 00:19:22,462 --> 00:19:25,096 We're back with paola, khary, vivian, and ron. 446 00:19:25,098 --> 00:19:27,865 So, vivian, when deciphering 447 00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:29,800 Fact from fiction in this episode -- 448 00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:31,802 And I feel like this will be a great episode to go back 449 00:19:31,804 --> 00:19:34,272 And rewatch right away to sort of kind of see 450 00:19:34,274 --> 00:19:36,473 If anything tips in the beginning 451 00:19:36,475 --> 00:19:38,676 That it -- that it's all happening inside her head -- 452 00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:41,679 What can you tell us definitively 453 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:43,414 About this new group? 454 00:19:43,416 --> 00:19:46,217 They're nothing like what our people 455 00:19:46,219 --> 00:19:48,219 Have, you know, ever run into before. 456 00:19:48,221 --> 00:19:51,689 They're organized, they have weapons, they have armor, 457 00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:54,358 And they have more rules than our people are used to. 458 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:58,963 So that's probably going to take some acclimating for them. 459 00:19:58,965 --> 00:20:00,564 But, yeah, definitely different 460 00:20:00,566 --> 00:20:02,366 Than anything they've ever been through, for sure. 461 00:20:02,368 --> 00:20:04,235 So just -- just really quick, if you don't mind, 462 00:20:04,237 --> 00:20:06,103 Just sort of bullet point of, 463 00:20:06,105 --> 00:20:09,306 So ezekiel -- not real. 464 00:20:09,308 --> 00:20:12,009 Eugene crawling through the tr-- the hole in the train door, 465 00:20:12,011 --> 00:20:14,178 That -- that was not real? -Not real. Not real. 466 00:20:14,180 --> 00:20:16,247 -The interrogation was real, though, 467 00:20:16,249 --> 00:20:19,249 And the guy that she's punching is real. -Real. 468 00:20:19,251 --> 00:20:21,986 Yes. Yep. Mm-hmm, yeah. -Okay. 469 00:20:21,988 --> 00:20:25,723 So, really, the first time we see everyone for real, 470 00:20:25,725 --> 00:20:29,994 The rest of the -- like yumiko and ezekiel and eugene, 471 00:20:29,996 --> 00:20:31,061 That's not till the end of the episode 472 00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:32,529 When they have the sacks on their heads. 473 00:20:32,531 --> 00:20:33,998 That's the first time we actually -- 474 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 That they're really appearing in the episode. 475 00:20:36,002 --> 00:20:39,269 The teaser -- the teaser's real, and the end is real. 476 00:20:39,271 --> 00:20:41,905 The two -- those -- those two -- 477 00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:44,809 Those are the only times that those people are real 478 00:20:44,811 --> 00:20:46,743 In -- in princess' head. 479 00:20:46,745 --> 00:20:48,612 I mean, in princess -- in -- in real life. 480 00:20:48,614 --> 00:20:50,914 That's the only time they're real. 481 00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:53,084 Not in princess' head. Yeah. 482 00:20:53,086 --> 00:20:55,253 So, paola, can you talk a bit about -- 483 00:20:55,255 --> 00:20:57,455 So that interrogation scene is very interesting 484 00:20:57,457 --> 00:21:00,624 Because she does decide to commit and protect her friends. 485 00:21:00,626 --> 00:21:02,493 Can you talk a little bit about that scene 486 00:21:02,495 --> 00:21:05,463 And her, you know, being so resolved 487 00:21:05,465 --> 00:21:08,499 To, like -- to really lock in and dig her heels in 488 00:21:08,501 --> 00:21:10,567 And -- and protect the group? 489 00:21:10,569 --> 00:21:13,303 I think it goes back to, you know, 490 00:21:13,305 --> 00:21:15,572 She -- like I always say, she has a huge. 491 00:21:15,574 --> 00:21:17,241 Princess has a huge heart. 492 00:21:17,243 --> 00:21:20,711 But I think she protects others more than she protects herself. 493 00:21:20,713 --> 00:21:23,781 And -- and that goes back to her old trauma. 494 00:21:23,783 --> 00:21:25,983 I think she gets very defensive 495 00:21:25,985 --> 00:21:28,652 When somebody else gets treated badly. 496 00:21:28,654 --> 00:21:31,789 And that's why she tries to, 497 00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:33,557 Like, get the knife in the beginning, 498 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:36,794 And, like, she tries to help yumiko. 499 00:21:36,796 --> 00:21:40,630 Um, it just shows you that she is loyal 500 00:21:40,632 --> 00:21:45,202 And that she is willing to put herself at risk for them. 501 00:21:45,204 --> 00:21:47,004 Because she's putting herself at risk for them 502 00:21:47,006 --> 00:21:48,939 When she flips out in that scene, 503 00:21:48,941 --> 00:21:51,275 When she, like, goes to him and tries to, like, hit him 504 00:21:51,277 --> 00:21:53,310 And then she gets hit. 505 00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:54,945 It just shows her loyalty. 506 00:21:54,947 --> 00:21:57,147 I think it's like summer camp, man. 507 00:21:57,149 --> 00:21:59,216 It's like -- you know, you got that -- you got that 508 00:21:59,218 --> 00:22:02,086 Tight-knit group for summer camp for like a week, 509 00:22:02,088 --> 00:22:04,088 And it feels like it's your whole life. 510 00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:05,823 And when you leave them, you're crying, 511 00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:07,758 And it's like, "we're going to be best friends forever," 512 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,560 And you never see them again, man, I -- 513 00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:11,395 That's what it feels like to me. 514 00:22:11,397 --> 00:22:12,829 It's like it just took a couple of days, 515 00:22:12,831 --> 00:22:17,034 And it was like summer camp friendship, like we're together. 516 00:22:17,036 --> 00:22:20,037 Ron, as a fan, what -- what do you think is going on? 517 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:22,039 Like, what do you think with this group 518 00:22:22,041 --> 00:22:26,177 And the type of organization that they have? 519 00:22:26,179 --> 00:22:28,379 Well, I mean, it's confusing to me 520 00:22:28,381 --> 00:22:29,646 Because it makes you -- you have two minds, 521 00:22:29,648 --> 00:22:32,450 Especially at the end when they have them all hooded up 522 00:22:32,452 --> 00:22:34,785 And -- and how aggressive they are 523 00:22:34,787 --> 00:22:36,387 And how armored they are. 524 00:22:36,389 --> 00:22:37,788 It seems like they, like -- 525 00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:39,923 Is there a group that can't be trusted? 526 00:22:39,925 --> 00:22:43,660 Or they have a lot to hide, they have a lot to lose, 527 00:22:43,662 --> 00:22:47,130 And they're just really good at putting together surprise parties. 528 00:22:47,132 --> 00:22:48,465 So they were like, "you can't wear -- 529 00:22:48,467 --> 00:22:50,134 You have to wear these masks." 530 00:22:50,136 --> 00:22:51,935 And you go in there, and there she is, 531 00:22:51,937 --> 00:22:53,737 And there's a cake, and it's going to be fun. 532 00:22:53,739 --> 00:22:56,607 It -- it could be either way. 533 00:22:56,609 --> 00:22:58,142 I-I'm sorry. I j-- I just -- 534 00:22:58,144 --> 00:23:00,010 I just need a spin-off of "ron's world." 535 00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:02,413 I -- I -- I need -- I need "the walk"-- 536 00:23:02,415 --> 00:23:04,347 "the walking dead: Ron's world." 537 00:23:04,349 --> 00:23:06,950 I-I want to -- I want to see this birthday party. 538 00:23:06,952 --> 00:23:10,620 I am -- I am all for it. It needs to happen. 539 00:23:10,622 --> 00:23:12,622 You know, amc has got some -- you know what? 540 00:23:12,624 --> 00:23:14,758 We can do it at 2:00 in the morning. We can -- 541 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,694 Let's make it a podcast. I don't know. 542 00:23:16,696 --> 00:23:18,862 I just -- I just -- I'm -- I'm here for it. 543 00:23:18,864 --> 00:23:20,964 I am here for it. -I just wanted to give 544 00:23:20,966 --> 00:23:23,167 Paola little bit of love and respect in this episode 545 00:23:23,169 --> 00:23:25,569 Because this is one of the ones that I related to 546 00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:27,437 The most as a comedian, 547 00:23:27,439 --> 00:23:30,373 Because you see that she uses comedy and humor 548 00:23:30,375 --> 00:23:34,178 And aloofness and fun as coping mechanisms for trauma. 549 00:23:34,180 --> 00:23:37,447 And I thought this episode was a great way of showcasing 550 00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:40,050 Just what happens when all your coping mechanisms 551 00:23:40,052 --> 00:23:41,051 Start to fail you. 552 00:23:41,053 --> 00:23:42,586 Like, you see it go from comedy, 553 00:23:42,588 --> 00:23:44,388 To the state capitals, to everything. 554 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:45,923 And when those leave you 555 00:23:45,925 --> 00:23:50,461 And you really have to just deal with what you've gone through, 556 00:23:50,463 --> 00:23:55,499 I-it can be, you know, terrifying. 557 00:23:55,501 --> 00:23:58,668 So I just thought that was something that I related to 558 00:23:58,670 --> 00:24:00,137 And that I understood as a comedian, 559 00:24:00,139 --> 00:24:02,139 As a person who has gone through trauma. 560 00:24:02,141 --> 00:24:04,475 And I just thought that was a great episode. 561 00:24:04,477 --> 00:24:06,343 And I just wanted to give you, paola, 562 00:24:06,345 --> 00:24:08,145 Respect for the way that you portrayed it. 563 00:24:08,147 --> 00:24:11,215 And so, I just want to mention that if I didn't get a chance to do so. 564 00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:14,952 Thank you so much. Thank you. I appreciate that. 565 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:17,521 Khary, can you talk about 566 00:24:17,523 --> 00:24:21,358 Playing such an aggressive version of ezekiel 567 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:22,793 When he's attacking the soldier? 568 00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:24,160 Because at that point, I still -- 569 00:24:24,162 --> 00:24:25,729 Like, I hadn't caught on. 570 00:24:25,731 --> 00:24:26,964 I don't know if anyone else had caught on yet. 571 00:24:26,966 --> 00:24:28,765 I hadn't caught on yet. 572 00:24:28,767 --> 00:24:31,034 And I just felt like, "oh, wow, this is -- 573 00:24:31,036 --> 00:24:32,636 We haven't seen ezekiel for like a minute, 574 00:24:32,638 --> 00:24:34,905 And stuff has changed." 575 00:24:34,907 --> 00:24:37,240 I wasn't even feeling like ezekiel at that point. 576 00:24:37,242 --> 00:24:38,842 I think -- I think I had -- 577 00:24:38,844 --> 00:24:41,378 I had kind of left ezekiel behind. 578 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:46,317 You know, he's another person in -- in princess' life. 579 00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,919 He's the protector. He's the aggressor. 580 00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:53,390 He's the -- he's -- he's her fight-or-flight mode, you know? 581 00:24:53,392 --> 00:24:55,659 And -- and I think she -- 582 00:24:55,661 --> 00:24:59,697 I think she literally takes away ezekiel 583 00:24:59,699 --> 00:25:03,701 And just puts on his armor, you know, that -- that he's wearing 584 00:25:03,703 --> 00:25:05,503 And -- and uses that, you know? 585 00:25:05,505 --> 00:25:08,272 He looks kind of like -- he's got that predator hair. 586 00:25:08,274 --> 00:25:11,808 You know, he just goes full predator, I think, you know? 587 00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:14,144 He's just like, "any time, any time." 588 00:25:14,146 --> 00:25:15,579 He's just ready to go. 589 00:25:15,581 --> 00:25:18,148 Paola, what do you think is going through princess' mind 590 00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:20,684 When she looks down and sees the blood on her hands 591 00:25:20,686 --> 00:25:24,154 And realizes she's the one who attacked the soldier? 592 00:25:24,156 --> 00:25:27,825 I think she -- she, like, goes back in her mind 593 00:25:27,827 --> 00:25:31,028 To every moment in that episode 594 00:25:31,030 --> 00:25:34,698 And every moment before that to see if these people even exist. 595 00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:38,168 It might just -- she might have never met them, you know? 596 00:25:38,170 --> 00:25:40,571 So I think she revisits 597 00:25:40,573 --> 00:25:44,375 Everything that's happened in her life in the past week 598 00:25:44,377 --> 00:25:46,776 And then -- and then some, you know? 599 00:25:46,778 --> 00:25:50,314 I think it's -- I mean, I think it's that fear 600 00:25:50,316 --> 00:25:52,983 That all of us have of losing control. 601 00:25:52,985 --> 00:25:56,119 Ron, do you think the soldier was telling princess the truth, 602 00:25:56,121 --> 00:25:58,188 That he was just a grunt? 603 00:25:58,190 --> 00:26:01,125 No, I don't believe him at all. Not at all. 604 00:26:01,127 --> 00:26:06,263 He was a great actor. He was believable in his words. 605 00:26:06,265 --> 00:26:08,465 But just after, you know, 606 00:26:08,467 --> 00:26:10,134 She came out of the interrogation, 607 00:26:10,136 --> 00:26:11,569 You're not just going to say you're a grunt. 608 00:26:11,571 --> 00:26:15,072 He was there to get information is what I believe. 609 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:17,007 I don't trust him at all. 610 00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:20,077 Also, I just don't trust people with that type of haircut in general. 611 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:22,278 But that's just personal. 612 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,549 [laughter] 613 00:26:25,551 --> 00:26:28,685 Oh, my goodness. I've never seen a-a stormtrooper 614 00:26:28,687 --> 00:26:30,421 Who could hit the broadside of a barn. 615 00:26:30,423 --> 00:26:32,422 I'm not scared of a stormtrooper. -Fair point. 616 00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,224 But I was like, "how scared could you be 617 00:26:34,226 --> 00:26:36,226 If a joker is wearing that much spandex 618 00:26:36,228 --> 00:26:37,561 Underneath all of that stuff?" 619 00:26:37,563 --> 00:26:39,896 If you -- there's a -- you know, just -- 620 00:26:39,898 --> 00:26:42,433 The way that cup is, I'm telling you -- 621 00:26:42,435 --> 00:26:44,501 I mean, the first thing I thought when I looked at him, 622 00:26:44,503 --> 00:26:46,637 I was like -- I was like, "listen, you just go 623 00:26:46,639 --> 00:26:48,372 Right underneath that cup, man. 624 00:26:48,374 --> 00:26:50,140 That's -- and just keep moving. 625 00:26:50,142 --> 00:26:52,509 Just pop him right under the cup 626 00:26:52,511 --> 00:26:54,178 And get out of there." 627 00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:57,247 Ohh, I can't wait till cons are a thing again. 628 00:26:57,249 --> 00:26:59,383 I cannot wait. I miss it so much. 629 00:26:59,385 --> 00:27:01,184 All right, coming up, some inside info 630 00:27:01,186 --> 00:27:02,986 From tonight's episode that you can't get anywhere else. 631 00:27:02,988 --> 00:27:05,055 And then later, of course, a sneak peek of next week's episode. 632 00:27:05,057 --> 00:27:08,258 But first, make sure to follow twduniverse on twitch. 633 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:10,394 They are live up to five days a week 634 00:27:10,396 --> 00:27:12,529 Playing games with guests, interacting with fans. 635 00:27:12,531 --> 00:27:13,930 So please make sure to check that out. 636 00:27:13,932 --> 00:27:15,933 That's, again, twitch -- twduniverse. 637 00:27:15,935 --> 00:27:17,868 We will be right back on "talking dead." 638 00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:24,008 ♪♪ 639 00:27:26,878 --> 00:27:31,415 ♪♪ 640 00:27:31,417 --> 00:27:32,949 Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition." 641 00:27:32,951 --> 00:27:35,085 We're back with paola, khary, vivian, and ron. 642 00:27:35,087 --> 00:27:37,087 Vivian, can you talk a little bit about the creative decision 643 00:27:37,089 --> 00:27:40,491 To have the dressed-up walkers in this episode? 644 00:27:40,493 --> 00:27:43,894 Well, it was a very princess thing, right? 645 00:27:43,896 --> 00:27:45,829 So the other thing, too, is, like, you know, 646 00:27:45,831 --> 00:27:48,232 We realized, as we were breaking the story, 647 00:27:48,234 --> 00:27:51,301 That we had no walkers in this episode at all. 648 00:27:51,303 --> 00:27:55,039 So we -- we kind of, like, tried to figure out 649 00:27:55,041 --> 00:27:57,574 What the most organic way we could include one was. 650 00:27:57,576 --> 00:28:02,379 And we realized that it actually helped us with princess' story, 651 00:28:02,381 --> 00:28:04,781 With her arc, in that it's the moment 652 00:28:04,783 --> 00:28:06,516 Where she kind of accepts 653 00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:09,252 That she is having this hallucination 654 00:28:09,254 --> 00:28:11,321 Or having this moment, and -- 655 00:28:11,323 --> 00:28:13,323 And she kind of accepts that about herself. 656 00:28:13,325 --> 00:28:14,958 And she's aware. She's like, "okay, well, 657 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,260 This isn't ezekiel, clearly. 658 00:28:16,262 --> 00:28:17,594 I'm going to have a conversation with him, 659 00:28:17,596 --> 00:28:18,929 But it's clearly not ezekiel. 660 00:28:18,931 --> 00:28:21,464 And these are just how sometimes I see walkers, 661 00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:23,934 And I know that that's not what's really there." 662 00:28:23,936 --> 00:28:26,136 We wanted to kind of, you know, give a what's up 663 00:28:26,138 --> 00:28:29,006 To, like, how -- how we met princess. -Mm-hmm. 664 00:28:29,008 --> 00:28:33,176 And sort of just hammer in that this is just what she's like 665 00:28:33,178 --> 00:28:35,546 And she's, you know, okay with it 666 00:28:35,548 --> 00:28:37,981 And she's just going to accept 667 00:28:37,983 --> 00:28:40,016 That that's how she sees the world 668 00:28:40,018 --> 00:28:41,551 And that's okay. 669 00:28:41,553 --> 00:28:44,354 Um, so it was more of, like, I guess, 670 00:28:44,356 --> 00:28:46,689 A fun way of using walkers on our show 671 00:28:46,691 --> 00:28:49,426 And a way that we hadn't really ever used them before. 672 00:28:49,428 --> 00:28:50,961 Not a lot of comedy walkers 673 00:28:50,963 --> 00:28:52,763 I've noticed in the last 11 years. 674 00:28:52,765 --> 00:28:53,731 Not -- -no. No. 675 00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:55,332 Very limited 676 00:28:55,334 --> 00:28:56,700 In terms of bits 677 00:28:56,702 --> 00:28:58,235 That they -- that they do. -Yeah. 678 00:28:58,237 --> 00:29:00,703 We get the award for that. Yeah, right? 679 00:29:00,705 --> 00:29:02,639 Too many bites, not enough bits. 680 00:29:02,641 --> 00:29:04,241 Come on, ron, back me up on that one. 681 00:29:04,243 --> 00:29:05,809 That was a good joke. Come on, ron. -Hey! 682 00:29:05,811 --> 00:29:06,976 -I agree with you. -That was good. 683 00:29:06,978 --> 00:29:08,178 That was -- that was a quality pun. 684 00:29:08,180 --> 00:29:09,446 -I've been saying it for years. -That was good. 685 00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:11,582 That was -- [laughs] 686 00:29:11,584 --> 00:29:13,283 Khary, khary, what did you enjoy most 687 00:29:13,285 --> 00:29:15,452 About working with the dressed-up walkers? 688 00:29:15,454 --> 00:29:17,321 You know what? I just immediately realized -- 689 00:29:17,323 --> 00:29:19,723 I was like, "nobody ever gets to do this. 690 00:29:19,725 --> 00:29:22,192 Nobody ever gets to hang out with -- with walkers 691 00:29:22,194 --> 00:29:24,261 Like they're your boys, you know?" 692 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:26,330 I -- and -- and they were -- 693 00:29:26,332 --> 00:29:28,398 And, you know, and I walked up, and I know that 694 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,067 They were the, you know, the -- the conductor and the engineer. 695 00:29:31,069 --> 00:29:34,037 But when I stepped up and -- and they were literally -- 696 00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,540 I mean, the dude still had his pocket watch. 697 00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:38,274 And I-I was like, "come here, man." 698 00:29:38,276 --> 00:29:39,810 And I put my arm around one, 699 00:29:39,812 --> 00:29:41,278 And I was like, "I'm gonna lean against you." 700 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,013 I can have my -- my arm around him, 701 00:29:43,015 --> 00:29:45,482 And literally, he's just -- he's just, you know, 702 00:29:45,484 --> 00:29:48,218 Kind of growling in my ear the whole time, you know? 703 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:50,420 And -- and he's -- he's just -- he's just -- 704 00:29:50,422 --> 00:29:53,223 We just a bunch of boys hanging out on the corner. 705 00:29:53,225 --> 00:29:56,593 You know, it was -- I-I felt really lucky because, 706 00:29:56,595 --> 00:29:59,296 Like you said, I-I don't think this has ever happened, 707 00:29:59,298 --> 00:30:02,432 You're able to be -- be able to be this familiar 708 00:30:02,434 --> 00:30:04,968 With, you know, with walkers in a situation. 709 00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:06,303 So it was pretty cool. 710 00:30:06,305 --> 00:30:08,038 Ron, if you could collaborate with princess 711 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,108 To dress up walkers, what would you want to see? 712 00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:13,243 Pfft! Easy! 713 00:30:13,245 --> 00:30:15,178 This is very easy. 714 00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:17,714 Police officer, a construction worker, 715 00:30:17,716 --> 00:30:19,249 Native american chief. 716 00:30:19,251 --> 00:30:22,786 We make the village walkers. We're having a great time. 717 00:30:22,788 --> 00:30:26,990 [laughter] 718 00:30:26,992 --> 00:30:28,859 Oh! Yes! 719 00:30:28,861 --> 00:30:32,029 Number-one album in the apocalypse. 720 00:30:32,031 --> 00:30:33,597 "village walkers." 721 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:37,668 This is a question for paola from twitter, from... 722 00:30:37,670 --> 00:30:40,203 Paola, if suddenly walkers stopped existing, 723 00:30:40,205 --> 00:30:42,139 What do you think princess would do? 724 00:30:42,141 --> 00:30:44,741 What would her plans for life be? 725 00:30:44,743 --> 00:30:49,546 She would be a deejay, and she would host apocalypse parties. 726 00:30:49,548 --> 00:30:53,082 Just, like, dance parties. Like, real chill every night. 727 00:30:53,084 --> 00:30:56,219 Whoever wants to come, whoever's around can come through. 728 00:30:56,221 --> 00:30:57,855 But she'd be the deejay of those parties, 729 00:30:57,857 --> 00:30:59,756 And she would host them, yeah. 730 00:30:59,758 --> 00:31:02,626 -Perfect answer. -May I also recommend therapy 731 00:31:02,628 --> 00:31:04,962 Copious amounts of therapy will also be helpful. 732 00:31:04,964 --> 00:31:08,365 Oh, yeah, that too. That would help, too. 733 00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:11,634 But, you know, the deejay parties are very therapeutic. 734 00:31:11,636 --> 00:31:14,371 You know? Like, that is also -- that would be very therapeutic. 735 00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:15,639 Dancing is therapeutic. 736 00:31:15,641 --> 00:31:17,841 -Absolutely. -Yeah. 737 00:31:17,843 --> 00:31:19,609 Coming up, we have an exclusive sneak peek 738 00:31:19,611 --> 00:31:21,445 Of next week's episode of "the walking dead," 739 00:31:21,447 --> 00:31:23,447 But, first, are you ready to go inside "the dead"? 740 00:31:23,449 --> 00:31:25,315 Here's some inside info from tonight's episode 741 00:31:25,317 --> 00:31:26,983 That you can't get anywhere else. 742 00:31:26,985 --> 00:31:28,451 Please enjoy. 743 00:31:28,453 --> 00:31:36,993 ♪♪ 744 00:31:36,995 --> 00:31:45,602 ♪♪ 745 00:31:45,604 --> 00:31:54,177 ♪♪ 746 00:31:54,179 --> 00:32:02,619 ♪♪ 747 00:32:02,621 --> 00:32:11,161 ♪♪ 748 00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:18,768 ♪♪ 749 00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:21,104 Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition." 750 00:32:21,106 --> 00:32:23,907 I am very happy to welcome a fan to the show. 751 00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:27,210 Joining us virtually is tyson from british columbia, canada. 752 00:32:27,212 --> 00:32:30,380 Tyson, thank you for being here. Who do you have a question for? 753 00:32:30,382 --> 00:32:32,983 I have a question for everyone, actually. 754 00:32:32,985 --> 00:32:35,451 If princess's imagination could, say, 755 00:32:35,453 --> 00:32:38,321 Spawn a tv crossover episode, 756 00:32:38,323 --> 00:32:41,324 What tv character outside of the "walking dead" universe 757 00:32:41,326 --> 00:32:43,660 Would you guys want to see her interact with? 758 00:32:43,662 --> 00:32:48,899 Ooh! I mean, for me, that's an easy one. 759 00:32:48,901 --> 00:32:51,668 I would, a thousand percent, cross over with "scooby-doo" 760 00:32:51,670 --> 00:32:54,271 Just to watch the mystery machine pull up and be like -- 761 00:32:54,273 --> 00:32:55,906 And they just jump out. 762 00:32:55,908 --> 00:32:57,740 You know how -- they'd have -- they just, like, run into 763 00:32:57,742 --> 00:33:00,343 Celebrity guests, like, in the middle of a swamp. 764 00:33:00,345 --> 00:33:02,345 "rick grimes?!" "howdy, kids." 765 00:33:02,347 --> 00:33:06,616 You know, like, I would totally, totally -- 766 00:33:06,618 --> 00:33:08,551 "scooby-doo" crossover. A hundred percent. 767 00:33:08,553 --> 00:33:10,353 Animated "walking dead?" without a doubt. 768 00:33:10,355 --> 00:33:12,022 I don't know. Paola, what do you think? 769 00:33:12,024 --> 00:33:14,891 You know, as princess, I would want to cross over to "ozark." 770 00:33:14,893 --> 00:33:16,526 [laughter] 771 00:33:16,528 --> 00:33:19,429 Just as the character in that world 772 00:33:19,431 --> 00:33:22,199 That is so different from her. 773 00:33:22,201 --> 00:33:26,836 I just want to be part of that crew. I just -- 774 00:33:26,838 --> 00:33:28,205 It would be terrible. 775 00:33:28,207 --> 00:33:29,873 What about you, khary? 776 00:33:29,875 --> 00:33:33,243 I had two, and one of them was literally "scooby-doo." 777 00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:35,979 I was like -- -that means it's a good idea, 778 00:33:35,981 --> 00:33:38,715 If we both came up with it. 779 00:33:38,717 --> 00:33:39,983 It's got -- 780 00:33:39,985 --> 00:33:41,384 Vivian, you're not writing this down! 781 00:33:41,386 --> 00:33:42,552 Why aren't you typing?! 782 00:33:42,554 --> 00:33:45,655 I know! I'm sorry! I got it! 783 00:33:45,657 --> 00:33:48,925 But my first choice would be "the a-team." 784 00:33:48,927 --> 00:33:52,662 That was my other one! I wanna see -- really?! 785 00:33:52,664 --> 00:33:54,464 Oh, wow. 786 00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:58,535 Yes, because I thought about b.A. And hannibal and the van, 787 00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:00,804 And as soon as I thought "van," I was like, "oh, no. 788 00:34:00,806 --> 00:34:03,773 'scooby-doo.' better van. It's got to be animated." 789 00:34:03,775 --> 00:34:07,077 Vivian. Vivian, do you have a dream television-show crossover? 790 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,012 I think it's really funny, and maybe because 791 00:34:09,014 --> 00:34:10,880 I'm watching it now and -- 792 00:34:10,882 --> 00:34:14,617 I thought it would be really funny. Is "ted lasso." 793 00:34:14,619 --> 00:34:16,486 I think it'd be funny to see princess 794 00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:17,820 Crossed with "ted lasso." 795 00:34:17,822 --> 00:34:19,556 [laughter] 796 00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:22,358 And that entire football team. 797 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,329 Could she be the goalie? I want her to be the goalie! 798 00:34:26,331 --> 00:34:29,232 I don't know. I think she'd be a trainer. 799 00:34:29,234 --> 00:34:31,301 I mean, she would kill in that locker room, don't you think? 800 00:34:31,303 --> 00:34:33,503 Like -- I don't know. 801 00:34:33,505 --> 00:34:36,706 -Ron funches? -That was mine. 802 00:34:36,708 --> 00:34:39,776 Oh. Walter white. 'cause I think the only thing 803 00:34:39,778 --> 00:34:41,644 That can make "the walking dead" scarier 804 00:34:41,646 --> 00:34:43,947 Is methamphetamines. 805 00:34:43,949 --> 00:34:46,917 Well, ron, I have some -- ron, I have some news for you. 806 00:34:46,919 --> 00:34:48,718 I have some news for you. 807 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:51,320 The universes of "the walking dead" 808 00:34:51,322 --> 00:34:54,457 And "breaking bad" are connected in season two 809 00:34:54,459 --> 00:34:58,328 Just as a nod to the prop departments. 810 00:34:58,330 --> 00:35:00,797 There is blue meth in merle's -- 811 00:35:00,799 --> 00:35:05,135 Merle has, like, a knapsack, and there's blue meth in it, 812 00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:08,538 So those two worlds are connected. 813 00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:10,874 -Oh, wow. -And I had this working theory 814 00:35:10,876 --> 00:35:15,812 That "breaking bad" caused "the walking dead" 815 00:35:15,814 --> 00:35:18,081 Because after -- spoiler alert -- 816 00:35:18,083 --> 00:35:21,418 After heisenberg dies, someone tries to 817 00:35:21,420 --> 00:35:24,087 Re-engineer the blue meth, and they don't do a good job. 818 00:35:24,089 --> 00:35:26,822 And I wonder if that is what caused it. 819 00:35:26,824 --> 00:35:29,759 I don't know. I'm just throwing it out there. 820 00:35:29,761 --> 00:35:32,762 I'm on board. I'm on board! 821 00:35:32,764 --> 00:35:34,831 -So... -That is brilliant. 822 00:35:34,833 --> 00:35:37,100 Tyson, what about you? Did you have one? 823 00:35:37,102 --> 00:35:38,701 Oh, man. 824 00:35:38,703 --> 00:35:41,571 Probably gonna have to khary's cyborg, for sure. 825 00:35:41,573 --> 00:35:43,173 [laughs] 826 00:35:43,175 --> 00:35:44,774 Just seem him... 827 00:35:44,776 --> 00:35:47,177 Just like... Be like, "all right." 828 00:35:47,179 --> 00:35:49,646 -There you go! -[laughs] 829 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:51,848 That's it. That's it right there. 830 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:54,417 I didn't know you were a cyborg! 831 00:35:54,419 --> 00:35:57,920 Yeah, yeah. I'm been cyborg for 18 years. 832 00:35:57,922 --> 00:35:59,389 [laughs] 833 00:35:59,391 --> 00:36:02,124 The voice of cyborg. I'm the voice of cyborg. 834 00:36:02,126 --> 00:36:03,593 -Hey. -Yep. 835 00:36:03,595 --> 00:36:06,529 My favorite line in the world in anything I ever seen in life 836 00:36:06,531 --> 00:36:08,999 Is, "I think his dad is a cop!" 837 00:36:09,001 --> 00:36:10,734 It was my favorite thing. 838 00:36:10,736 --> 00:36:12,335 [laughter] 839 00:36:12,337 --> 00:36:15,938 Oh, my god. That was so much fun. That was so much fun. 840 00:36:15,940 --> 00:36:18,107 Tyson, thank you so much for being here. 841 00:36:18,109 --> 00:36:20,143 And before you go, I want to show you guys this. 842 00:36:20,145 --> 00:36:22,545 This is "the walking dead" soldiers t-shirt. 843 00:36:22,547 --> 00:36:26,215 This, plus this brand-new princess sweatshirt, 844 00:36:26,217 --> 00:36:28,885 Which is super-rad, are available, both, at 845 00:36:28,887 --> 00:36:33,623 Thewalkingdeadshop.Com. 846 00:36:33,625 --> 00:36:35,625 And, tyson, because you're such a great fan 847 00:36:35,627 --> 00:36:37,427 And you asked such a wonderful question, 848 00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:39,295 We're going to send you each one of these. 849 00:36:39,297 --> 00:36:40,697 Thank you, guys, so much. 850 00:36:40,699 --> 00:36:42,966 -Tyson! -Thanks, tyson, man! 851 00:36:42,968 --> 00:36:44,701 Thanks, tyson! 852 00:36:44,703 --> 00:36:46,403 Thank you. I hope you guys are all... 853 00:36:46,405 --> 00:36:47,770 Thank you. You too, man. 854 00:36:47,772 --> 00:36:49,439 Coming up, we have the exclusive sneak peek 855 00:36:49,441 --> 00:36:51,241 Of next week's episode of "the walking dead." 856 00:36:51,243 --> 00:36:53,610 We will be right back. 857 00:37:01,184 --> 00:37:05,989 ♪♪ 858 00:37:05,991 --> 00:37:07,390 Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition." 859 00:37:07,392 --> 00:37:08,791 Here is the exclusive sneak peek 860 00:37:08,793 --> 00:37:10,526 Of next week's episode of "the walking dead." 861 00:37:10,528 --> 00:37:13,263 Check it out. 862 00:37:13,265 --> 00:37:16,399 You're not coming back with me. 863 00:37:16,401 --> 00:37:18,668 Gonna stay out a little while longer. 864 00:37:18,670 --> 00:37:20,437 Keep looking. 865 00:37:20,439 --> 00:37:24,340 [dog pants] 866 00:37:24,342 --> 00:37:26,209 You want a ride? 867 00:37:26,211 --> 00:37:27,944 My bike's just up further. 868 00:37:27,946 --> 00:37:29,012 No, I'm good. 869 00:37:29,014 --> 00:37:34,283 ♪♪ 870 00:37:34,285 --> 00:37:39,588 ♪♪ 871 00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:41,157 Hey, um -- 872 00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:44,227 You don't have to apologize. I'm good, really. 873 00:37:44,229 --> 00:37:45,962 ♪♪ 874 00:37:45,964 --> 00:37:48,030 I was just gonna say good luck. 875 00:37:48,032 --> 00:37:51,233 ♪♪ 876 00:37:51,235 --> 00:37:52,435 [clicks tongue] 877 00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:54,704 ♪♪ 878 00:37:54,706 --> 00:37:56,239 Good luck to you, too. 879 00:37:56,241 --> 00:37:57,374 Thanks. 880 00:37:57,376 --> 00:37:59,108 [panting] 881 00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:02,712 [crow caws in distance] 882 00:38:02,714 --> 00:38:06,048 [dog pants, whimpers] 883 00:38:06,050 --> 00:38:07,517 [clicks tongue] 884 00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:12,722 ♪♪ 885 00:38:12,724 --> 00:38:14,491 Nice. 886 00:38:14,493 --> 00:38:17,127 ♪♪ 887 00:38:17,129 --> 00:38:19,062 Well, that -- yeah, I don't know. 888 00:38:19,064 --> 00:38:21,598 They seem to be walking in different directions, 889 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,134 So I guess the daryl and carol saga continues. 890 00:38:25,136 --> 00:38:27,804 I don't want to -- I hope that works out okay. 891 00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:29,405 Wonder what's up with that dog. 892 00:38:29,407 --> 00:38:32,075 Man's best friend, my ass! Huh? 893 00:38:32,077 --> 00:38:34,677 I'm telling you. 894 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:35,679 [laughing] no. 895 00:38:35,681 --> 00:38:37,814 Daryl seemed pretty salty about the dog -- 896 00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:40,016 I mean, he wasn't worried about carol walking off, 897 00:38:40,018 --> 00:38:44,354 But when that dog left, he got salty, man. 898 00:38:44,356 --> 00:38:47,090 Paola, what is going through princess' mind 899 00:38:47,092 --> 00:38:51,227 When her -- when she sees everyone lined up there 900 00:38:51,229 --> 00:38:54,230 In that last scene with the sacks over their heads? 901 00:38:54,232 --> 00:38:56,633 Man, she just -- I mean, I -- 902 00:38:56,635 --> 00:38:59,903 Like, as princess, I trusted that dude. 903 00:38:59,905 --> 00:39:02,305 Like -- like, the soldier. 904 00:39:02,307 --> 00:39:05,442 I almost killed you. Cool. I'm sorry about that. 905 00:39:05,444 --> 00:39:07,844 I trusted you, and I gave you all the information 906 00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:10,046 That I do know about these people. 907 00:39:10,048 --> 00:39:12,782 And to see for him -- 908 00:39:12,784 --> 00:39:14,851 When I asked, like, "when can I see my friends?" 909 00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:17,520 And I see them all tied up 910 00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:20,924 And with bags over their faces, it's a betrayal. 911 00:39:20,926 --> 00:39:24,194 And -- and I think princess is like, 912 00:39:24,196 --> 00:39:26,128 "oh, my god. Is this my fault? 913 00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:29,399 Is it because I was volatile or, like, impulsive 914 00:39:29,401 --> 00:39:32,201 And now they have this information that I gave them 915 00:39:32,203 --> 00:39:33,636 And they're going to use that against us?" 916 00:39:33,638 --> 00:39:37,673 So princess is just, like, going through all the emotions 917 00:39:37,675 --> 00:39:39,809 At the same time. 918 00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:41,410 Vivian, is there anything you can tell us about 919 00:39:41,412 --> 00:39:44,747 What's in store for princess and the group moving forward? 920 00:39:44,749 --> 00:39:47,049 Mnh-mnh. No. 921 00:39:47,051 --> 00:39:49,219 [laughter] 922 00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:51,420 That's my favorite answer! 923 00:39:51,422 --> 00:39:52,622 That's my favorite answer! 924 00:39:52,624 --> 00:39:54,256 Paola: She's like, "unh-unh. That was the best! 925 00:39:54,258 --> 00:39:56,959 I don't think anyone's ever done that. 926 00:39:56,961 --> 00:39:59,696 Usually, it's like, "well, you know, you're gonna have to --" 927 00:39:59,698 --> 00:40:01,363 But I just like the immediate shutdown. 928 00:40:01,365 --> 00:40:03,499 "no, I -- no. No." 929 00:40:03,501 --> 00:40:04,934 She said, "unh-unh." I mean, I don't -- 930 00:40:04,936 --> 00:40:07,303 I honestly don't think -- I mean, I'm not being enough -- 931 00:40:07,305 --> 00:40:08,972 I mean, sorry. I'm not -- 932 00:40:08,974 --> 00:40:11,975 I don't actually -- I mean, you know, 933 00:40:11,977 --> 00:40:14,043 No, I don't think -- that's a fair answer! 934 00:40:14,045 --> 00:40:16,379 Listen, you don't -- that is a fair answer. 935 00:40:16,381 --> 00:40:18,848 That was a straight-up clint eastwood just -- 936 00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:21,184 Just fast-draw, just -- mnh-mnh. 937 00:40:21,186 --> 00:40:22,985 Just walk away. 938 00:40:22,987 --> 00:40:25,054 Set strong boundaries, vivian. 939 00:40:25,056 --> 00:40:26,723 We will just keep watching, vivian. 940 00:40:26,725 --> 00:40:28,992 But amazing episode. Beautifully written. 941 00:40:28,994 --> 00:40:30,860 Thank you so much for being here, vivian. 942 00:40:30,862 --> 00:40:33,062 It was such a pleasure to have you on. 943 00:40:33,064 --> 00:40:34,998 Thank you for watching "talking dead: Home edition." 944 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,867 My guests have been vivian and paola lázaro 945 00:40:37,869 --> 00:40:39,802 And khary payton and ron funches. 946 00:40:39,804 --> 00:40:43,339 Make sure to catch ron on "top secret videos" on trutv 947 00:40:43,341 --> 00:40:45,408 And also check out his wonderful podcast, 948 00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:46,876 "gettin' better with ron funches." 949 00:40:46,878 --> 00:40:49,078 And he does a million things that you can see him in, 950 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,813 So follow him. 951 00:40:50,815 --> 00:40:53,316 Also join us next week. We'll be joined by melissa mcbride, 952 00:40:53,318 --> 00:40:54,750 Cooper andrews, 953 00:40:54,752 --> 00:40:57,086 And the director of next week's episode, david boyd. 954 00:40:57,088 --> 00:40:59,289 Also super fan and friend of the show 955 00:40:59,291 --> 00:41:01,491 Property brother drew scott. 956 00:41:01,493 --> 00:41:04,160 So please stay safe. Take care of each other. 957 00:41:04,162 --> 00:41:06,696 I'm chris hardwick. I'll see you next time. Bye-bye.