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I'm pretty sure that you
referred to Spector by name.

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- Are you certain?
- If you did, he knows that we're on to him.

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I was due to see Mr Spector,
but is he the target?

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A hairdresser's booked to see Annie, today.

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She's been cancelled, too.

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But you let me come all the way
in here before turning me away?

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- We have a problem.
- What?

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We have a collapsed ceiling.

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What is that?

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A body has been found. A female.

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- Where?
- The Belfast Hills.

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It's not her. It's not Rose.

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Well, she's unidentified as yet.

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Perhaps I can use her for 12 hours?

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Do you know a detective
called Tom Anderson?

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Detective Sergeant, West Belfast.

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I thought he might make a
useful addition to our team.

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Nurture your envy, Katie.

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Your anger. It's the way forward.

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What is it you want me to do?

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♪ Mama, bring me my walking cane. ♪

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♪ I said Mama, ♪

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♪ bring me my walking cane. ♪

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♪ I'm leaving on that midnight train. ♪

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Control. X-ray One update.

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From X-Ray One, no movement.

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Nothing to report.

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No sign of any builders,
plumbers at the house?

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No, Ma'am.

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The target appears to
be playing loud music.

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You'll find in front
of you a target profile

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on Peter Paul Spector.

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There's no date and time,

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and the precise wording of the
arrest is yet to be formalized.

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I'll do that with the officer nominated

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and briefed to make the arrest.

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I personally like the arresting
officer to be the first

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interviewing officer, if possible.

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Do you have someone in mind?

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- I do.
- I've made some enquiries.

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- That seems like it might work.
- Good.

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So far, we've found no
official record for Paul Spector

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further back than his
marriage to Sally-Ann Goodall.

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We're still waiting on John Paul Spector's

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army records, but one thing we do now know

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is that Paul Spector is not Jewish.

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His father was born John Paul Marshall.

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Marshall was adopted by the Spectors,

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who were indeed a Jewish couple.

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They devoted most of their lives
to adopting and fostering children,

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regardless of their race, colour or creed.

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Thoroughly good people, it seems.

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- Where was this?
- North London.

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Is John Paul Spector
still alive, do we know?

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He's alive and in prison.

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- Where?
- Canada.

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In prison for?

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Murder.

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- A female victim?
- Male.

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I'm not sure if you remember me? Jim Burns.

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Of course I remember you.

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I've followed your
career with some interest.

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If I may, I'll get straight to the point.

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I want to know if you remember

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this boy from your time
at Gortnacul Orphanage.

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I believe he was there
from the age of 10 to 13,

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from 1989 to 1992.

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Is this to do with the recent
spate of sexual murders?

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Why do you ask that?

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It must be something of
pressing importance to bring

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the Assistant Chief Constable
all the way out here to see me.

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Is this your man?

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What can you tell me about him?

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He was a very pretty boy.

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I've been following the
progress of the case,

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in the newspapers, on the news,
with considerable interest.

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All those poor murdered girls.

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There's a great deal of consternation

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- among the general public.
- I'm well aware of that.

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- I'd like to help.
- You can.

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By telling me what you
remember about that boy.

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- Would you call me Father?
- You've been defrocked,

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dismissed from the clerical state.

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- You are no longer a priest.
- Do you know what is sung

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at a priest's ordination?

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"You are a priest forever,
like Melchizedek of old."

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A priest acts on Earth as an alter Christus

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that is, as another Christ!

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I know one of your victims
believed that he was being

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touched by the hand of God
while you were molesting him,

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because that's what you told him.

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All of those boys were
willing participants.

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Everyone of them consented. I
never forced myself on anyone.

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They wanted to learn about sex...

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... explore their sexual identities.

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They enjoyed it.

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If they deny that now, it's because
they can't face their real natures.

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A child's consent does not count.

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What you were doing had nothing to
do with exploring their sexuality

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and everything to do with
misusing power and abusing trust.

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- I never hurt a boy physically.
- And that's a source of pride? Is it?

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Mm.

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- Do you feel no shame? No guilt?
- Why should I?

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Shame for who you are.

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Guilt at what you've done.

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I was showing children
love, expressing affection.

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By performing oral sex on 12-year-olds?

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How many of those boys still
have faith in the Catholic church,

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still have faith in God, do you think?

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It's a disgrace that I'm
thought of as a common criminal

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and all the good work I did over
almost 30 years is forgotten.

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Even in this place, I continue my vocation.

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A man dying on the floor of his
cell begged me for the last rites.

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What would you have me
do? Turn away from him?

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Refuse to confer absolution?

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I was obliged to dispense the sacraments,

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because an indelible priestly
character remains on my soul.

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I absolved sin.

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One word from my lips
transformed mere bread

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and wine into divine flesh and blood.

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That power can never be taken away from me.

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This was a mistake.

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I shouldn't have come here.

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- Give me the photograph.
- You're an important man.

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You could let it be known that

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I will lead the community in
sincere prayer for the apprehension

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of this individual.

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Say, say tomorrow at noon.

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Men, women, children.

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It could be a mighty force.

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I'm sure there are plenty
of priests who could lead

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the community in prayer.

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Priests who aren't pederasts
serving a 20 year prison sentence.

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I can perform any religious
ritual that is permitted to any lay

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person and no-one can stop me.

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- Let me have the photograph.
- Father. Call me Father.

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No.

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Then I won't tell you
what I know about this boy.

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'I don't think I can.'

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'I don't know what's going to happen.'

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- 'I don't... '
- 'I don't... '

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'I had an early night myself.'

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'It's a beautiful night'

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- '... night.'
- '... night.'

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The first example is the
known recording of Spector's

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voice from his interview with DCI Brink.

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The second, the call
from Rose Stagg's phone.

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'I don't think I can.' 'I don't
know what's going to happen.'

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- 'I don't... '
- 'I don't... '

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'I had an early night myself.'

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'It's a beautiful night.'

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- '... night.'
- '... night.'

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Normally, 20 or more different

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words are needed for a
meaningful comparison.

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Comparing two voice samples
of less than 20 words results

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in a less conclusive opinion.
Possibly instead of probably.

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The call from Rose Stagg's phone was
very possibly made by Paul Spector.

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It has been four days
since Rose went missing.

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Delaying the arrest in the hope
that the suspect leads us to her

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runs a number of very
clear and obvious risks.

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Risks that I think we have to take.

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'Hey, this is Katie. Can't
come to the phone right now.'

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'Leave a message and I'll call you back.'

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Hi. Er, it's me. I'm outside.

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'Have you left already?'

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'I can't really wait, so...
I'll see you at school. Bye.'

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These are the thermal images
from last night, ma'am.

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The only heat signatures are livestock.

169
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Is that all Goodall land?

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00:13:01,695 --> 00:13:03,415
Yeah, there's the farmhouse.

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00:13:05,935 --> 00:13:08,525
- What's that?
- That's your derelict building.

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Perhaps it's on the list.
We'll take a look later.

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No sign of Rose Stagg's car?

174
00:13:13,535 --> 00:13:16,605
No, ma'am. We'll extend the
search further south today.

175
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We need to find that car, Jed.

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'From Three. That's the
Benedetto girl into the bank,

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on Waring Street. I no longer have.'

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From Three. That's the Benedetto
girl into the bank, Waring Street.

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Three no longer has, running
loose. Five, can you cover?

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'From Five. Entering the bank.'

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'Message from Control, ma'am.
The Benedetto girl has cut school.'

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She's on the move.

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'From Five, I now have.'

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00:14:11,055 --> 00:14:12,365
Where is she?

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In a bank on Waring
Street, ma'am. Five now has.

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'From Five.

187
00:14:19,495 --> 00:14:22,975
She's making a cash withdrawal.
Looks like a large amount.'

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00:14:27,975 --> 00:14:29,805
From Five. That's the Benedetto

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00:14:29,855 --> 00:14:31,965
girl out of the bank on Waring Street,

190
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'walking briskly towards the river.'

191
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What's the word on Spector?

192
00:14:35,935 --> 00:14:37,255
Sitting tight, ma'am.

193
00:14:46,855 --> 00:14:50,895
'From Five. The Benedetto girl is
on the footbridge at Lagan Weir.'

194
00:15:26,895 --> 00:15:28,765
From Four. She's fixed a lock to the fence

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00:15:28,815 --> 00:15:30,805
and thrown away the key.

196
00:15:30,855 --> 00:15:33,925
'A padlock that says "Katie
and Paul" with today's date.'

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A love lock?

198
00:15:35,735 --> 00:15:39,655
'From Four. The target is heading
back towards Custom House Square.'

199
00:15:41,735 --> 00:15:44,805
'From X-ray One, stand by, stand by.'

200
00:15:44,855 --> 00:15:46,485
'That's the target out of the house.'

201
00:15:46,535 --> 00:15:50,925
Blue and grey hooded top. Black
track suit bottoms. On foot.

202
00:15:50,975 --> 00:15:54,725
Left, left towards the
Lisburn Road. Now running.

203
00:15:54,775 --> 00:15:57,125
'He's running. Repeat, he's running loose.'

204
00:15:57,175 --> 00:15:59,765
'Left, left towards
Lisburn Road. Unsighted.'

205
00:15:59,815 --> 00:16:02,005
Out for a run or making a run for it?

206
00:16:02,055 --> 00:16:05,605
'From X-ray One, target
is wearing a back pack.'

207
00:16:05,655 --> 00:16:06,805
Oh, Jesus!

208
00:16:06,855 --> 00:16:09,005
From X-ray One. That's the
target out of the house.

209
00:16:09,055 --> 00:16:12,445
Left, left towards the Lisburn
Road. Now running unsighted.

210
00:16:12,495 --> 00:16:14,885
All call signs respond.

211
00:16:14,935 --> 00:16:17,805
'It's Gibson. Is the surveillance blown?'

212
00:16:17,855 --> 00:16:20,005
'From Delta, not possible to say.'

213
00:16:20,055 --> 00:16:21,605
'Have eyes on target running loose,

214
00:16:21,655 --> 00:16:23,765
Ulsterville Avenue
approaching Lisburn Road.'

215
00:16:23,815 --> 00:16:28,645
'Arrest strategy not yet in
place. Follow. Do not lose.'

216
00:16:28,695 --> 00:16:32,445
'Target now crossing Lisburn Road.
repeat, crossing Lisburn Road.'

217
00:16:32,495 --> 00:16:35,525
'Control. From Delta. Target
crossing Lisburn Road.'

218
00:16:35,575 --> 00:16:36,965
'From Delta.

219
00:16:37,015 --> 00:16:40,165
Target is along College Gardens
heading towards Malone Road.

220
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One-way street, unable to pursue.'

221
00:16:41,935 --> 00:16:45,085
From Delta, that's the target
crossing the Lisburn Road

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00:16:45,135 --> 00:16:48,165
into College Gardens heading
towards the Malone Road.

223
00:16:48,215 --> 00:16:51,085
Call signs that can back Delta, come in.

224
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'Golf, I can.'

225
00:16:52,175 --> 00:16:56,445
Eyes on target, crossing Malone
Road. Repeat, crossing Malone Road.

226
00:16:56,495 --> 00:17:00,205
'Control. From Golf, target
crossing Malone Road.'

227
00:17:00,255 --> 00:17:03,045
'From Golf. Target
entering Botanic Gardens.'

228
00:17:03,095 --> 00:17:06,125
'Main gates closed to vehicles, running loose.'

229
00:17:06,175 --> 00:17:09,525
'All call signs.' I need
cars blocking all exits.

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00:17:09,575 --> 00:17:12,685
Golf and Delta drop two men
on foot to cover the gardens.

231
00:17:18,415 --> 00:17:23,205
'From Golf. SO7 entering park at
Botanic Avenue entrance on foot.'

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00:17:23,255 --> 00:17:26,655
'From Eight. In Botanic
Gardens on Stranmillis.'

233
00:17:31,455 --> 00:17:32,645
'From Bravo.'

234
00:17:32,695 --> 00:17:36,135
Turning left Bridgeway Street
heading to university exit.

235
00:17:38,455 --> 00:17:41,405
'From Seven. Eastern edge of Botanic.'

236
00:17:41,455 --> 00:17:42,895
'No visual on the target.'

237
00:18:20,055 --> 00:18:22,565
From Bravo. Crossing Ormeau Road,

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00:18:22,615 --> 00:18:25,575
'turning left onto Annadale
Embankment. No visual.'

239
00:18:29,575 --> 00:18:33,765
'From Eight. South West of
gardens. No sign of target.'

240
00:18:33,815 --> 00:18:37,845
Control. From eight. No sign
of target southwest of gardens.

241
00:18:37,895 --> 00:18:40,685
'From Three. Benedetto girl
has turned into Bleecker Street.

242
00:18:40,735 --> 00:18:42,055
Four has.'

243
00:19:16,255 --> 00:19:17,645
From Four.

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00:19:17,695 --> 00:19:20,405
The Benedetto girl has entered
the Bleecker Street Hotel

245
00:19:20,455 --> 00:19:22,165
'on Bleecker Street, running loose.'

246
00:19:22,215 --> 00:19:23,725
From four. The Benedetto girl has

247
00:19:23,775 --> 00:19:26,215
entered the Bleecker
Street Hotel. Running loose.

248
00:19:49,415 --> 00:19:50,605
What's happening?

249
00:19:50,655 --> 00:19:53,005
- We lost him.
- What?!

250
00:19:53,055 --> 00:19:55,045
We think he's somewhere
in the Botanic Gardens.

251
00:19:55,095 --> 00:19:56,605
We have cars covering every exit.

252
00:19:56,655 --> 00:19:59,765
All available surveillance
operatives are in the gardens on foot.

253
00:19:59,815 --> 00:20:02,365
'From Four. I'm in the lobby
of the Bleecker Street Hotel.

254
00:20:02,415 --> 00:20:06,245
Room 12 is registered in
the name of Paul Spector.'

255
00:20:06,295 --> 00:20:10,365
Call in the uniforms.
Spector's room is a crime scene.

256
00:20:10,415 --> 00:20:12,495
It needs to be treated accordingly.

257
00:21:02,775 --> 00:21:04,685
Get down on your knees.
Get down on your knees!

258
00:21:04,735 --> 00:21:07,285
This is my hotel! It's my hotel!

259
00:21:07,335 --> 00:21:08,655
Drop what you're holding!

260
00:21:13,495 --> 00:21:14,845
On your feet.

261
00:21:14,895 --> 00:21:18,975
What? I can't walk the
corridors of me own hotel?

262
00:21:25,495 --> 00:21:26,805
Police.

263
00:21:26,855 --> 00:21:27,975
Open the door!

264
00:21:33,855 --> 00:21:35,205
Police! Open up!

265
00:21:35,255 --> 00:21:36,375
Open the door!

266
00:21:47,815 --> 00:21:49,135
Police, open the door!

267
00:21:53,575 --> 00:21:56,405
Katie, calm down. You are under arrest.

268
00:21:56,455 --> 00:21:58,855
- Get off!
- Just stop moving!

269
00:22:17,535 --> 00:22:18,575
Get off!

270
00:22:25,375 --> 00:22:27,405
'Alpha Papa One Two to Uniform.'

271
00:22:27,455 --> 00:22:30,695
We have the Benedetto girl.

272
00:22:55,855 --> 00:22:58,605
We believe the girl has attempted
to destroy vital evidence.

273
00:22:58,655 --> 00:23:01,405
It might be necessary to
conduct a strip search.

274
00:23:01,455 --> 00:23:04,365
Assign Hagstrom
responsibility for her care.

275
00:23:04,415 --> 00:23:08,885
We need to provide access
to an appropriate adult

276
00:23:08,935 --> 00:23:12,205
and put her in a detention
room, not in a... not in a cell.

277
00:23:12,255 --> 00:23:13,295
'Understood.'

278
00:23:14,895 --> 00:23:16,325
Thanks.

279
00:23:16,375 --> 00:23:18,255
'From Bravo. No sign of target.'

280
00:23:20,895 --> 00:23:23,095
Spector's juvenile criminal record.

281
00:23:25,655 --> 00:23:27,535
'From Delta. No sign of target.'

282
00:23:29,735 --> 00:23:31,085
From the south?

283
00:23:31,135 --> 00:23:32,685
I went to see Father Jensen,

284
00:23:32,735 --> 00:23:35,365
the pederast who ran
the orphanage at Gotnacul

285
00:23:35,415 --> 00:23:38,765
where Spector was when he was
a boy. He remembered him well.

286
00:23:38,815 --> 00:23:41,055
- Peter Baldwin?
- PB.

287
00:23:43,935 --> 00:23:45,405
Was he abused by Jensen?

288
00:23:45,455 --> 00:23:47,725
Jensen says not.

289
00:23:47,775 --> 00:23:51,725
At 13 he was moved to Ballyvale,
it's a home in Dundalk.

290
00:23:51,775 --> 00:23:56,485
It was there that it seems
his criminal behaviour began.

291
00:23:56,535 --> 00:24:01,445
And you were right, breaking
and entering, ignoring valuables,

292
00:24:01,495 --> 00:24:04,285
taking underwear.

293
00:24:04,335 --> 00:24:08,525
And he kept a journal too, it
seems. Voyeur's map of the town.

294
00:24:08,575 --> 00:24:11,965
Days of the week, times of
the day and night, places where

295
00:24:12,015 --> 00:24:16,935
women could be observed, notes
about their appearance, age, habits.

296
00:24:19,895 --> 00:24:23,285
- Has prison changed Jensen?
- No.

297
00:24:23,335 --> 00:24:28,165
He's just as arrogant,
just as narcissistic.

298
00:24:28,215 --> 00:24:31,525
- He's unrepentant.
- 'From Seven, no sign of target.'

299
00:24:31,575 --> 00:24:32,975
Oh, where the fuck is he?

300
00:24:52,495 --> 00:24:53,895
Will you look who it is?

301
00:25:57,255 --> 00:25:59,295
Stop that! Stop that!

302
00:26:03,255 --> 00:26:04,855
Move back. Go! Move!

303
00:26:07,495 --> 00:26:09,255
Get down on your knees!

304
00:26:10,215 --> 00:26:11,535
Get down on your knees!

305
00:26:13,175 --> 00:26:14,495
Get down on your knees!

306
00:26:25,375 --> 00:26:26,455
Where's my wife?

307
00:26:28,095 --> 00:26:29,365
What?

308
00:26:29,415 --> 00:26:31,575
Liz? Where is she?

309
00:26:33,935 --> 00:26:36,445
I don't know, Jimmy.

310
00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:41,245
Tell me, or so help me I'll
blow your fucking brains out!

311
00:26:41,295 --> 00:26:43,485
I swear to you, Jimmy, I
don't know where she is.

312
00:26:43,535 --> 00:26:44,575
Find out.

313
00:26:46,655 --> 00:26:48,845
How?

314
00:26:48,895 --> 00:26:51,965
Make some calls. Now.

315
00:26:52,015 --> 00:26:53,655
Find out where she is.

316
00:26:55,495 --> 00:26:56,735
I don't have my phone.

317
00:27:03,655 --> 00:27:04,695
Make some calls.

318
00:27:13,775 --> 00:27:14,765
Gibson.

319
00:27:14,815 --> 00:27:17,685
'Responding to an emergency call,
ma'am. The back of Elmwood Mews.'

320
00:27:17,735 --> 00:27:19,005
Elmwood Mews?

321
00:27:19,055 --> 00:27:22,125
'The person who phoned it in
described two men in bomber jackets,'

322
00:27:22,175 --> 00:27:24,165
jeans and the third in dark running gear.

323
00:27:24,215 --> 00:27:26,295
It made me think of the CCTV
footage of Spector running.

324
00:27:26,296 --> 00:27:28,358
- 'How far away are you?'
- Minutes.

325
00:27:29,015 --> 00:27:31,325
All right, stay on the line.

326
00:27:31,375 --> 00:27:35,445
It's just, er, I need to
follow up, for my case notes.

327
00:27:35,495 --> 00:27:38,765
I really need to see her in person.

328
00:27:38,815 --> 00:27:39,895
Elizabeth Tyler.

329
00:27:42,175 --> 00:27:43,215
Paul Spector.

330
00:27:44,935 --> 00:27:47,685
She was in therapy because
of the death of her son,

331
00:27:47,735 --> 00:27:49,535
not because of domestic abuse.

332
00:27:51,495 --> 00:27:53,295
That therapy was interrupted.

333
00:27:56,015 --> 00:27:59,255
Obviously, I'll treat any
information as confidential.

334
00:28:01,735 --> 00:28:03,335
She's asking her superior.

335
00:28:05,535 --> 00:28:07,005
My knees are hurting. Can I get up?

336
00:28:07,055 --> 00:28:10,325
You fucking can't get up!

337
00:28:10,375 --> 00:28:11,815
It's lovely music.

338
00:28:13,815 --> 00:28:16,085
What?

339
00:28:16,135 --> 00:28:17,895
They got me on hold.

340
00:28:19,375 --> 00:28:21,805
What's in your bag?

341
00:28:21,855 --> 00:28:23,205
What?

342
00:28:23,255 --> 00:28:25,445
Give me your bag. Give me it.

343
00:28:30,695 --> 00:28:31,735
'Danny? Danny?'

344
00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:36,405
What the fuck!

345
00:28:36,455 --> 00:28:38,725
Put the gun down! Nobody move, nobody move!

346
00:28:38,775 --> 00:28:44,245
Keep your hands in the air! Keep
your hands where I can see them!

347
00:28:44,295 --> 00:28:45,285
Argh!

348
00:28:52,655 --> 00:28:55,525
Stay where you are! Don't move!

349
00:28:55,575 --> 00:28:56,885
For fuck's sake!

350
00:28:56,935 --> 00:28:58,285
'Danny. can you hear me?'

351
00:28:58,335 --> 00:29:00,325
You OK?

352
00:29:00,375 --> 00:29:01,415
'Danny?'

353
00:29:03,975 --> 00:29:08,285
Er, sorry, ma'am. We've had a contact.

354
00:29:08,335 --> 00:29:09,485
Were you hit?

355
00:29:09,535 --> 00:29:12,125
'Yeah.' One in the flack jacket.

356
00:29:12,175 --> 00:29:15,285
'And Spector? Is it Spector?'

357
00:29:15,335 --> 00:29:16,975
Yes, ma'am.

358
00:29:18,815 --> 00:29:19,855
One moment.

359
00:29:30,975 --> 00:29:34,405
The suspect has fled the scene
in a White City Clampers Van.

360
00:29:34,455 --> 00:29:37,365
He's er, six foot two,
dark jeans, dark jacket.

361
00:29:37,415 --> 00:29:40,005
He's bleeding from his face.
He's taken my partner's gun!

362
00:29:40,055 --> 00:29:42,965
Establish an outer cordon!

363
00:29:43,015 --> 00:29:44,205
'Danny?'

364
00:29:44,255 --> 00:29:47,005
- Sorry, ma'am.
- Is Spector still there?

365
00:29:47,055 --> 00:29:48,645
Yes, ma'am.

366
00:29:48,695 --> 00:29:50,805
'Any injuries? Head injuries?'

367
00:29:50,855 --> 00:29:54,885
No, ma'am. He's er... I think
he's bleeding from the... nose.

368
00:29:54,935 --> 00:29:57,365
OK. Don't let them take
him to the hospital.

369
00:29:57,415 --> 00:29:58,565
Danny, do you hear me?

370
00:29:58,615 --> 00:30:01,645
'Just keep him at the scene.'

371
00:30:01,695 --> 00:30:02,735
Yes, ma'am.

372
00:30:13,495 --> 00:30:16,125
I've told the Custody Sergeant
at the Serious Crime Suite

373
00:30:16,175 --> 00:30:19,605
that you're on your way. Can I help?

374
00:30:19,655 --> 00:30:21,295
Yes, you can.

375
00:30:27,055 --> 00:30:28,815
From X-ray One. Stand by.

376
00:30:32,095 --> 00:30:35,405
That's the target's wife arriving
at the house in the Volvo.

377
00:30:35,455 --> 00:30:39,335
'Control. Target's wife arriving
at house. X-ray One, wait out.'

378
00:31:29,535 --> 00:31:33,285
That man was on his back,
more or less as he's lying now.

379
00:31:33,335 --> 00:31:35,965
Then he made a move, raised his gun.

380
00:31:36,015 --> 00:31:39,375
That's when the male officer
fired again. Two more shots.

381
00:31:46,095 --> 00:31:49,965
Now just bring the wrist up.
Don't let me push it forward.

382
00:31:50,015 --> 00:31:52,165
Don't let me push it back. Thank you.

383
00:31:52,215 --> 00:31:53,815
Just don't let me push down.

384
00:32:00,695 --> 00:32:03,765
Burns.

385
00:32:03,815 --> 00:32:05,455
Understood, yeah.

386
00:32:08,135 --> 00:32:09,175
Mr Spector.

387
00:32:14,095 --> 00:32:16,925
Thank you for your statements.
We have your number and address.

388
00:32:16,975 --> 00:32:19,725
We'll be in touch if we
need anything more from you.

389
00:32:19,775 --> 00:32:23,725
This is Paul Spector. He's not
worn any protective clothing.

390
00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:24,815
Sign him out.

391
00:33:22,895 --> 00:33:26,895
Paul Spector. Detective Sergeant Anderson.

392
00:33:28,615 --> 00:33:31,765
I am arresting you for the
unlawful imprisonment of Rose Stagg.

393
00:33:31,815 --> 00:33:33,365
You do not have to say anything

394
00:33:33,415 --> 00:33:35,405
but it may harm your
defence if you do not mention

395
00:33:35,455 --> 00:33:37,965
when questioned something
you later rely on in court.

396
00:33:38,015 --> 00:33:41,895
Anything you do say may be given
in evidence. Do you understand?

397
00:34:12,855 --> 00:34:15,215
Police officers!

398
00:34:23,895 --> 00:34:26,805
- Sally-Ann Spector?
- Yes?

399
00:34:26,855 --> 00:34:29,485
- DC Glen Martin, DC McNally.
- What's happened?

400
00:34:29,535 --> 00:34:32,445
Sally-Ann Spector, I am arresting
you on suspicion of perverting

401
00:34:32,495 --> 00:34:33,965
- the course of justice.
- What?!

402
00:34:34,015 --> 00:34:37,085
You do not have to say anything,
but it may harm your defence

403
00:34:37,135 --> 00:34:38,805
if you do not mention when questioned

404
00:34:38,855 --> 00:34:40,685
something you later rely on in court.

405
00:34:40,735 --> 00:34:43,295
Anything you do say may
be given in evidence.

406
00:36:10,895 --> 00:36:13,965
Your mother's here to see you.

407
00:36:14,015 --> 00:36:16,005
I don't want to see her.

408
00:36:16,055 --> 00:36:18,445
Katie, you are a juvenile.

409
00:36:18,495 --> 00:36:20,445
The law requires an appropriate adult

410
00:36:20,495 --> 00:36:22,815
- to be present during your custody.
- Not her.

411
00:36:26,975 --> 00:36:28,015
Not her.

412
00:36:40,855 --> 00:36:43,685
They came to the house and arrested me

413
00:36:43,735 --> 00:36:47,325
and they've bought me to the
Down, er, Serious Crime Unit.

414
00:36:47,375 --> 00:36:49,325
- 'Slow down, Sally.'
- I'm sorry.

415
00:36:49,375 --> 00:36:51,005
'Why have you been arrested?'

416
00:36:51,055 --> 00:36:53,125
Perverting the course of justice.

417
00:36:53,175 --> 00:36:54,805
'In what way?'

418
00:36:54,855 --> 00:36:58,125
They suspect that I lied
when they asked me about Paul.

419
00:36:58,175 --> 00:36:59,885
'What about Paul?'

420
00:36:59,935 --> 00:37:02,245
Where he was the night that girl died.

421
00:37:02,295 --> 00:37:05,885
- 'What girl?'
- The one in the park.

422
00:37:05,935 --> 00:37:07,095
'Did you lie?'

423
00:37:09,655 --> 00:37:10,695
Yes.

424
00:37:13,895 --> 00:37:17,165
- 'Is this your one phone call?'
- Yes.

425
00:37:17,215 --> 00:37:18,965
'Sally!'

426
00:37:19,015 --> 00:37:21,725
'I'm not a criminal solicitor.'

427
00:37:21,775 --> 00:37:23,565
'I should contact a colleague.'

428
00:37:23,615 --> 00:37:26,445
'It's important you don't
incriminate yourself.'

429
00:37:26,495 --> 00:37:30,575
I'm pregnant, Steve. Please, help me.

430
00:37:41,495 --> 00:37:43,415
Please remove your top layer, sir.

431
00:37:52,175 --> 00:37:53,215
Shoes.

432
00:38:27,895 --> 00:38:29,725
Both the Benedetto girl and Spector

433
00:38:29,775 --> 00:38:32,125
have mobile devices
with video files on them.

434
00:38:32,175 --> 00:38:34,645
Should we prioritise Spector's?

435
00:38:34,695 --> 00:38:36,535
Yeah. Definitely.

436
00:38:38,615 --> 00:38:40,015
Downloading now, ma'am.

437
00:39:11,095 --> 00:39:15,765
I must advise you this
interview is being recorded.

438
00:39:15,815 --> 00:39:18,645
I am Detective Constable Glen Martin.

439
00:39:18,695 --> 00:39:20,965
Detective Constable Gail
McNally is also present.

440
00:39:21,015 --> 00:39:22,925
The suspect's name is Sally-Ann Spector.

441
00:39:22,975 --> 00:39:27,085
Also present is the suspect's
solicitor, Stephen Jennings.

442
00:39:27,135 --> 00:39:32,645
It is 22 hundred hours on
Monday, May the seventh.

443
00:39:32,695 --> 00:39:37,725
This interview is taking place
in the Down Serious Crime Suite.

444
00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:42,845
I'd like each person here to identify themselves
on tape for voice identification purposes.

445
00:39:42,895 --> 00:39:45,125
DC Gail McNally.

446
00:39:45,175 --> 00:39:46,815
Steve Jennings, solicitor.

447
00:39:50,455 --> 00:39:51,495
Sally?

448
00:39:53,895 --> 00:39:55,335
Sally-Ann Spector.

449
00:39:58,055 --> 00:40:00,285
Just to make it clear, Sally...

450
00:40:00,335 --> 00:40:02,565
The offence you're
being investigated for is

451
00:40:02,615 --> 00:40:05,245
perverting the course of justice.

452
00:40:05,295 --> 00:40:08,845
What I'm going to do, is ask you
to give an account of the answers

453
00:40:08,895 --> 00:40:13,485
you gave me when I telephoned
you on Saturday 21st of April,

454
00:40:13,535 --> 00:40:17,125
and asked you to give an account
of your husband, Paul Spector's

455
00:40:17,175 --> 00:40:20,365
movements on a series of specific dates.

456
00:40:20,415 --> 00:40:22,805
I believe the account you gave me was false

457
00:40:22,855 --> 00:40:26,375
and amounted to an attempt to
pervert the course of justice.

458
00:40:27,615 --> 00:40:31,005
Do you understand?

459
00:40:31,055 --> 00:40:32,455
Yes.

460
00:40:35,535 --> 00:40:38,975
Tell me in your own words how
you came to give me that account.

461
00:40:40,815 --> 00:40:42,495
I lied.

462
00:40:44,175 --> 00:40:46,615
I lied to you.

463
00:40:50,335 --> 00:40:55,845
Er, he called me before he
went into the police station.

464
00:40:55,895 --> 00:40:58,605
He said the police would
probably come round to see me

465
00:40:58,655 --> 00:41:01,535
and ask me to confirm what
he was about to tell them.

466
00:41:04,655 --> 00:41:08,735
He asked me to lie and say that
I'd been with him that night...

467
00:41:10,615 --> 00:41:12,335
... that we were at home together.

468
00:41:14,775 --> 00:41:16,575
What reason did he give, Sally?

469
00:41:17,855 --> 00:41:20,325
When he called, he didn't give a reason.

470
00:41:20,375 --> 00:41:22,015
So you just did what he asked?

471
00:41:23,055 --> 00:41:24,095
Yes.

472
00:41:27,015 --> 00:41:28,455
Did he ever give a reason?

473
00:41:31,135 --> 00:41:35,695
Er... Yes, when he came
back from the station.

474
00:41:40,615 --> 00:41:42,215
Tell them, Sally.

475
00:41:51,215 --> 00:41:56,725
Paul worked on a suicide
help line, as a volunteer,

476
00:41:56,775 --> 00:42:01,135
every Friday night, all night,
and some other nights as well.

477
00:42:03,455 --> 00:42:05,775
Or at least that's where I thought he was.

478
00:42:08,415 --> 00:42:11,325
When he came back, he told me
that he hadn't actually gone

479
00:42:11,375 --> 00:42:13,175
to work for the last three months.

480
00:42:15,135 --> 00:42:16,935
That he'd been having an affair.

481
00:42:23,775 --> 00:42:26,015
Take your time.

482
00:42:29,215 --> 00:42:34,495
He was having an affair
with our baby-sitter.

483
00:42:37,135 --> 00:42:38,695
She was 15 at the time.

484
00:42:40,495 --> 00:42:42,895
I didn't know what to do.

485
00:42:45,095 --> 00:42:48,165
He said that if I told the
police that he'd be put on the

486
00:42:48,215 --> 00:42:50,605
sex offender's list,

487
00:42:50,655 --> 00:42:55,495
that he'd go to prison, that
I might even lose my job.

488
00:42:58,455 --> 00:43:00,335
Is that what all of this is about?

489
00:43:03,215 --> 00:43:05,375
You understand that you're under a caution?

490
00:43:09,255 --> 00:43:14,245
I should also remind you
that you have a right to free

491
00:43:14,295 --> 00:43:16,655
and independent legal advice...

492
00:43:20,335 --> 00:43:22,845
... and that you can talk to
a solicitor on the telephone

493
00:43:22,895 --> 00:43:24,535
if you so wish.

494
00:43:27,455 --> 00:43:30,455
That light indicates the
interview is being monitored.

495
00:43:32,695 --> 00:43:37,485
You've been arrested because
we believe that on the night

496
00:43:37,535 --> 00:43:43,175
of Thursday May 3rd, you abducted
Rose Veronica Stagg from her home.

497
00:43:45,255 --> 00:43:48,205
We also believe that you
have unlawfully imprisoned

498
00:43:48,255 --> 00:43:49,415
Rose Stagg...

499
00:43:51,615 --> 00:43:54,775
... that you're holding her
somewhere against her will.

500
00:43:57,175 --> 00:43:59,775
You may know Rose Stagg
better as Rose McGill.

501
00:44:05,815 --> 00:44:07,455
Your wife has been arrested.

502
00:44:09,575 --> 00:44:11,895
Your home is being searched.

503
00:44:13,095 --> 00:44:15,055
Katie Benedetto has been arrested.

504
00:44:17,135 --> 00:44:20,885
The hotel room you were
staying in, is being searched.

505
00:44:20,935 --> 00:44:26,415
Things could get out of control
for you very quickly, Paul.

506
00:44:30,535 --> 00:44:32,605
Are you sure you don't want to speak?

507
00:44:36,015 --> 00:44:38,925
All the files have downloaded
from Spector's phone.

508
00:44:38,975 --> 00:44:41,095
There are some videos you should see.

509
00:44:46,255 --> 00:44:50,015
My wrists are sore. Can
you untie me, please?

510
00:44:51,735 --> 00:44:56,295
Peter, can you unloosen these, please?

511
00:45:01,335 --> 00:45:03,175
I'm thirsty.

512
00:45:05,215 --> 00:45:07,015
Can you untie me, please!

513
00:45:09,095 --> 00:45:13,565
- Please.
- Please, can you untie me?

514
00:45:13,615 --> 00:45:15,725
Please, take me home.

515
00:45:15,775 --> 00:45:20,365
Please, take me home. My
babies will be missing me.

516
00:45:20,415 --> 00:45:24,325
They're only little, they're
young, they need me, Peter,

517
00:45:24,375 --> 00:45:26,845
they need me, Peter.

518
00:45:35,175 --> 00:45:37,215
I'm sorry.

519
00:45:39,175 --> 00:45:43,175
You were right. I did go to the police.

520
00:45:44,855 --> 00:45:46,005
Go to the police.

521
00:45:46,055 --> 00:45:50,965
I never will again, if you untie me now,

522
00:45:51,015 --> 00:45:53,645
I won't tell anybody what's happened.

523
00:45:53,695 --> 00:45:54,735
Please, Peter.

524
00:45:55,935 --> 00:45:58,015
Please, Peter, would you talk to me?

525
00:46:05,015 --> 00:46:10,135
I miss what we had, I do.

526
00:46:11,455 --> 00:46:16,085
Tom, he's not like you.

527
00:46:16,135 --> 00:46:20,695
You. No-one's like you.

528
00:46:23,295 --> 00:46:27,325
Untie me and we can have what we had again.

529
00:46:27,375 --> 00:46:29,885
It can be better.

530
00:46:29,935 --> 00:46:34,735
I know it's wrong, but I'm so turned on.

531
00:46:36,815 --> 00:46:38,255
Are you?

532
00:46:39,415 --> 00:46:41,535
Are you?

533
00:46:43,095 --> 00:46:44,135
Peter?

534
00:46:47,455 --> 00:46:53,285
You fucking disgust me, you fucking
piece of shit, you fucking worm!

535
00:46:53,335 --> 00:46:57,485
I know it's you, you pervert.

536
00:46:57,535 --> 00:47:03,205
You fucking pervert, you
dickless piece of shit.

537
00:47:03,255 --> 00:47:08,565
You're a monster, you're a monster,

538
00:47:08,615 --> 00:47:12,285
you're a monster, you're
a fucking aberration!

539
00:47:12,335 --> 00:47:14,405
Fuck you, fuck you!

540
00:47:22,935 --> 00:47:26,295
Peter, please take me home.

541
00:47:41,055 --> 00:47:45,005
You must have had a terrible
childhood to do this to me.

542
00:47:45,055 --> 00:47:50,725
I feel sorry for you, I really do.

543
00:47:50,775 --> 00:47:54,215
You must have had a terrible
childhood. I feel sorry for you.

544
00:48:00,015 --> 00:48:03,255
I don't want to die here, Peter, please!

545
00:48:17,055 --> 00:48:19,495
You want to be noticed.

546
00:48:20,855 --> 00:48:24,895
You want to be paid
attention to, make your mark?

547
00:48:26,495 --> 00:48:31,725
Fine. Hurt me, do whatever you want to me,

548
00:48:31,775 --> 00:48:35,445
go ahead, do your worst.

549
00:48:35,495 --> 00:48:41,205
Nothing you can do will ever take
away how much I love my husband,

550
00:48:41,255 --> 00:48:43,615
how much I love my children.

551
00:48:45,895 --> 00:48:49,085
Nothing you can do can make
me devalue my life in any way.

552
00:48:49,135 --> 00:48:51,045
I will celebrate life.

553
00:48:51,095 --> 00:48:57,285
I love and I am loved and nothing
that you can do can take that away!

554
00:48:57,335 --> 00:48:58,845
Do you know that?!

555
00:48:58,895 --> 00:49:00,405
Do you know that?!

556
00:49:06,815 --> 00:49:13,005
Why the fuck are you
watching this? You sick shit?

557
00:49:13,055 --> 00:49:15,815
What the fuck is wrong with you?

558
00:49:44,815 --> 00:49:46,725
I think it's time for a special warning.

559
00:49:46,775 --> 00:49:49,245
See if we can't make it
that a court draws an adverse

560
00:49:49,295 --> 00:49:52,245
inference from Spector's
refusal to answer questions.

561
00:49:52,295 --> 00:49:53,815
I'll pass it on.

562
00:50:17,535 --> 00:50:20,975
I want you to listen carefully
to what I'm about to say, Paul.

563
00:50:23,335 --> 00:50:25,895
I'm now going to ask you
to account for a fact.

564
00:50:28,135 --> 00:50:30,335
The reason I'm asking you to do this...

565
00:50:32,815 --> 00:50:38,445
... is because I believe this fact
shows that you're responsible,

566
00:50:38,495 --> 00:50:44,535
for the abduction and unlawful
imprisonment of Rose Stagg.

567
00:50:46,495 --> 00:50:51,005
I must warn you that a record
is being made of this interview

568
00:50:51,055 --> 00:50:54,055
and may be given in evidence
if you're brought to trial.

569
00:50:56,455 --> 00:50:59,925
And that the court may draw
proper inference from your silence

570
00:50:59,975 --> 00:51:05,205
if you fail or refuse to
account for the fact about which

571
00:51:05,255 --> 00:51:08,335
you're being questioned. Do you understand?

572
00:51:24,295 --> 00:51:27,485
I'm asking you to account for
the presence on your phone,

573
00:51:27,535 --> 00:51:31,405
the phone found in your possession
at the time of your arrest,

574
00:51:31,455 --> 00:51:37,925
of a number of video files
featuring the image of Rose Stagg

575
00:51:37,975 --> 00:51:39,495
and the sound of her voice.

576
00:51:42,455 --> 00:51:44,295
And images of you.

577
00:51:46,695 --> 00:51:50,135
What is your explanation for those
files being found on your phone?

578
00:52:56,815 --> 00:52:58,445
Granny!

579
00:52:58,495 --> 00:53:01,045
They've finished questioning
your daughter, Mrs Goodall,

580
00:53:01,095 --> 00:53:02,725
and they're keeping her in custody.

581
00:53:02,775 --> 00:53:05,125
Will you be seeing her again tonight?

582
00:53:05,175 --> 00:53:09,845
I won't, unfortunately, but I will
see her first thing in the morning.

583
00:53:09,895 --> 00:53:12,405
- Give her my love.
- Granny!

584
00:53:12,455 --> 00:53:14,975
I will. You try not to worry.

585
00:53:17,815 --> 00:53:21,095
Granny, is that Daddy on the phone?!

586
00:53:34,615 --> 00:53:37,485
- Gibson.
- It's Christine Larkin, Ma'am.

587
00:53:37,535 --> 00:53:39,655
- Yes?
- Some new results from the FSNI.

588
00:53:41,015 --> 00:53:42,245
Tell me.

589
00:53:42,295 --> 00:53:45,085
They've managed to type
mitochondrial DNA from the degraded

590
00:53:45,135 --> 00:53:49,165
blood sample found on the scissors
that ties them to the crime scene.

591
00:53:49,215 --> 00:53:50,735
It's Joe Brawley's blood.

592
00:53:53,855 --> 00:53:56,935
He's entitled to eight hours
uninterrupted rest, ma'am.

593
00:53:57,935 --> 00:54:02,095
If we wake him, I have to reset
the clock and you lose two hours.

594
00:54:07,975 --> 00:54:10,575
Fetch the gaoler.

595
00:54:27,815 --> 00:54:29,775
Yes, Ma'am?

596
00:54:31,815 --> 00:54:33,735
May I?

597
00:54:46,095 --> 00:54:47,975
There's something I'd like you to do.

598
00:55:09,975 --> 00:55:12,765
I'm DC Gail McNally.

599
00:55:12,815 --> 00:55:16,365
Paul Spector, I am further
arresting you for the murder

600
00:55:16,415 --> 00:55:20,045
of Joseph Brawley and the
attempted murder of Anne Brawley.

601
00:55:20,095 --> 00:55:21,845
You do not have to say anything,

602
00:55:21,895 --> 00:55:24,285
but it may harm your
defence if you do not mention

603
00:55:24,335 --> 00:55:27,205
when questioned something
you later rely on in court.

604
00:55:27,255 --> 00:55:30,295
Anything you do say may
be given in evidence.

605
00:55:31,735 --> 00:55:32,855
Do you understand?

606
00:57:33,856 --> 00:57:38,160
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