1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,440 With regard to his memory loss, he could be feigning, 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,520 exaggerating or simply... 3 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:07,800 malingering. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,360 Now, I feel I have no choice, other than to remand her to the 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,560 Seapark Juvenile Justice Centre in Bangor. 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,720 I don't care what you do. 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,520 The only one who's honest is Paul. 8 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,320 The police say they have fresh evidence to put to Spector. 9 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,440 What sort of evidence? 10 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,080 Apparently they have found a lock-up rented by Spector. 11 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,120 Why are you in this place? 12 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,760 I twisted my sister's arm. 13 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,960 After he broke his sister's arm, he raped her... 14 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,480 and carried her into the street, 15 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,040 threw her into a passing bin lorry that crushed her to death. 16 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,880 No-one has any idea how bad Gortnacull House was. 17 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,600 Are you certain that Baldwin, Paul Spector, was Jensen's favourite? 18 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,920 Every night and every day for a full year. 19 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,880 Paul Spector, I am further arresting you for the murder of 20 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,920 Susan Harper on the 18th of August 2002. 21 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,720 I insist this interview be suspended. 22 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,360 I must take instruction from Mr Spector. 23 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,400 Do you recognise this man? Do you know his name? 24 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,520 David Alvarez. 25 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,280 This interview stops now. 26 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,480 What is going on? 27 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,320 The police have been clever. 28 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,960 They have something on me that I can actually remember. 29 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,520 This programme contains some violent scenes, some strong language 30 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,560 and scenes which some viewers may find upsetting. 31 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,360 I'd worked that day, in a Caribbean restaurant. 32 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,320 It was a warm day. There was thundery rain. 33 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,320 David and I went out after work, went out drinking. 34 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:28,720 We went to a local club, I can't recall the name. 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,840 We met Susan Harper there. She invited us to her house. 36 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,720 I think she shared a house, but there was no-one there. 37 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,360 We went up to her room. 38 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,400 The three of you? 39 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,400 Yes. 40 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,040 What happened? 41 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,560 She and David had sex. 42 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,320 And you? 43 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,680 I watched. 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,400 What sort of sex? 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,320 Ordinary sex. 46 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,760 What happened then? 47 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,600 David left. 48 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:18,400 He went out to find more drink. 49 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,880 He left us together. 50 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,480 Go on. 51 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,680 We, erm... 52 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,400 I invited her to try something a bit different. 53 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,080 What? 54 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,560 A sex game. 55 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,040 What happened was an accident. 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,680 A consensual game? 57 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,040 Yes. 58 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,080 Then how did this David Alvarez individual come to be found 59 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,560 guilty if he wasn't even there? 60 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,760 And why murder, why not manslaughter? 61 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,960 It's complicated. 62 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,600 Did David Alvarez find somewhere to sell him drink? 63 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,480 I don't know. He never came back. 64 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,600 Could I please have some water? 65 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Have you, erm... 66 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,480 ..remembered more in regard to the other charges? 67 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:27,640 No. 68 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,720 It will look bad if you stop answering now. 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,520 Erm...just be careful what you say. 70 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,080 So at that point you were left alone with Susan Harper? 71 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,480 Yes. 72 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,800 What happened then? 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,680 I suggested that she tried something, erm, 74 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,240 a bit more exciting than the sex that she'd had with David. 75 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,480 What? 76 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,680 I'd been experimenting. 77 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,240 With? 78 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,200 Exhibit 132. 79 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,960 I've never seen these before. 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,240 You admit it's you? He admits no such thing. 81 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,840 Experimenting like that, with sexual asphyxiation. 82 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:43,360 Is that the sort of behaviour you involved Susan Harper in? 83 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,680 I advise you not to answer that question. 84 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,720 Yes. 85 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,840 How? Specifically. 86 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,640 Her head in a plastic bag. 87 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,440 Tied off at the neck? 88 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,560 No, just a thin plastic bag. 89 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,400 Did you tie her hands? 90 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,400 No, her hands were free. 91 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,680 Was it your suggestion to use the bag? 92 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,360 Yes. 93 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,400 Why? 94 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,400 For the same reasons as in these pictures, to feel in control, 95 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,080 to feel out of control... 96 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,800 to feel powerful, to feel weak, 97 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,600 to be fearful, to be trusted. 98 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,400 Were you supposed to remove it? 99 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,960 She was...at the peak of orgasm, 100 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,000 to tear off the bag, it floods 101 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,560 the brain with oxygen-laden blood, leads to a feeling of euphoria. 102 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,200 Or death. 103 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,400 Sadly, yes. 104 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,440 Sadly? 105 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,760 Did she understand the risks involved with such behaviour? 106 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,720 I think so. 107 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,840 Did you explain it? 108 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,560 I don't remember. 109 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,680 Why didn't you remove the bag for her if she lost consciousness? 110 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,880 Could you not see she was suffocating? 111 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,800 I wasn't looking at her. 112 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,440 I was going down on her. 113 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,440 We'd been drinking, taken coke. Maybe that's why she died. 114 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:22,000 And yet David Alvarez, who wasn't even there at the time, 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,760 is serving a life sentence for the murder. 116 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,360 His choice. 117 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,840 Why would he make that choice, do you think? 118 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,040 I don't know. You'll have to ask him. 119 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,720 So what did you do when you realised what had happened? 120 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,720 Did you call for an ambulance? Did you call the police? 121 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,680 No. Why not? 122 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,760 It didn't occur to me. 123 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,800 What did you do? 124 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,120 Cleaned up. 125 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,480 Does that account for the presence of a washing-up bowl by the bed? 126 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Yes. 127 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,200 I fetched the water and washed her. 128 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,640 Emptied it into the bath. 129 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,680 I was meant to bring it back to the kitchen. 130 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,440 I must have forgotten. 131 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,600 What colour bowl? 132 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,400 Green, I think. 133 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,440 So you just left her there, in her room? 134 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,320 On her bed? 135 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,520 Yes. 136 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,680 What did you do then? 137 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,200 I walked the streets. 138 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,240 And after that? 139 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,520 Left London. I came back to Belfast. 140 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,600 And that's when you became Paul Spector? 141 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,200 Yes. Did you have any communication with David Alvarez? 142 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,360 No. 143 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,600 At no point? No. 144 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,080 I ask you again, why would he take the blame, do you think? 145 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,040 He must have felt he was doing the right thing, I suppose. 146 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,520 And why would he think... 147 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,920 ..taking the blame was the right thing to do? 148 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,320 You tell me. 149 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,200 He said he felt in your debt. 150 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,720 She speaks. 151 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,960 He said he felt he owed you a great deal. 152 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,880 Because you protected him as a child. 153 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:11,920 Did I? 154 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,520 You told me... 155 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,480 that Father Jensen didn't abuse you at Gortnacull. 156 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,480 You said that you made yourself repulsive so that 157 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,000 he wouldn't touch you. 158 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,120 I don't remember that. 159 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,240 I don't recall talking to you before. 160 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,400 But every boy there was abused in some way. 161 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,880 No-one escaped. 162 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,320 In fact, some boys were singled out for special treatment. 163 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,040 And you were one of Father Jensen's favourites. 164 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,400 He even had a pet name for you. 165 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,920 He called you "Pretty Boy". 166 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,680 He chose you to be his favourite for a whole year. 167 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,320 When it came time for you to choose your successor... 168 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,640 ..you looked right past David Alvarez. 169 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,000 You chose another boy. 170 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,040 And, for that, he was eternally grateful. 171 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:29,200 Or at least until it became clear that the friend that he was 172 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,320 protecting from an unfortunate fatal accident 173 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,000 was actually a friend who was, at that time, 174 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,800 at the beginning of a career as a serial murderer. 175 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,160 Drop the charade, Peter. 176 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,320 Own your confession. 177 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Have the courage of your convictions 178 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,160 and admit that you remember it all. 179 00:09:57,560 --> 00:09:59,200 You remember everything. 180 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,000 I'm sorry, but you are intentionally prejudicing my client's case. 181 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,760 I will want this removed from the transcripts. 182 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,880 Were you not worried that the police would come after you? 183 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:13,360 Come after Peter Baldwin, do you mean? 184 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,120 Of no fixed abode somewhere in London? 185 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,320 No, I wasn't. 186 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,840 A year later I was Paul Spector, living in Belfast, 187 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,280 soon to become a married man with a child. 188 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,560 Truth be told, I didn't give Alvarez and Susan Harper much thought. 189 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:41,920 You know, I've been told a lot about Paul Spector, since I was shot. 190 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:49,800 At first I was horrified, but then, I must admit... 191 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,360 ..little by little, he's started to intrigue me. 192 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,280 Paul, please stick to the facts surrounding the death of 193 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,120 Susan Harper... 194 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,360 and avoid speculating about things you can't remember. 195 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,240 The speculation intrigues me. 196 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,640 I'm told that I laid out Sarah Kay's underwear on her bed, 197 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,040 in the shape of her body. 198 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,120 That's what I used to do as a child. 199 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Lay out my mother's clothes on her bed, in her shape, 200 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,920 imagine she was there. 201 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,680 It aroused me. 202 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:45,040 When I was a wee bit older, 12, 13, whenever I could, 203 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,840 I would obtain female underwear. 204 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,120 I'd use it to masturbate. 205 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,640 Is that perverse? 206 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,520 Was that the start of something that led me here? 207 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,040 Or was it earlier? 208 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Gortnacull? 209 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Or earlier still, my mother's death? 210 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,200 I want to know. 211 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,880 I want to know the real me. 212 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,240 Then stop hiding behind the mask of amnesia. 213 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,800 We're all wearing masks to some extent. 214 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,040 You certainly are. 215 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:38,000 There are memories, thoughts that feel like memories... 216 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,960 ..that are starting to come back to me. 217 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,040 This interview has strayed way beyond its stated purpose. 218 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,440 And there's a voice. 219 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,880 There's a voice saying, "We're losing him, we're losing him." 220 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,120 So, there must have been at least one person who cared 221 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,000 whether I lived or died. 222 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,680 That was me. 223 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,000 That was my voice. 224 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,560 And I did care. 225 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:23,400 I thought death would be too easy for you, too easy an escape. 226 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,840 And I didn't want you to cheat the system. 227 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,520 And I still don't. 228 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,400 I want you to be punished for the crimes that you've committed. 229 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,600 Rose Stagg was so right about you. 230 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,160 She saw right through you, 231 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:52,600 your infantile desire to have a captive and captivated audience. 232 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,760 You just want to be noticed, 233 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,080 you want to be the centre of attention, 234 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,680 to have special treatment, 235 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:05,280 to make your mark. 236 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,800 But it's all just a performance. All of it. 237 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:18,080 You perform for me, for your solicitor, your doctors, 238 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,960 your nurse, your psychiatrist, even your family. 239 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,840 It's all just one big performance... 240 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:36,000 ..as protection against the dreaded black hole of your heart. 241 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,520 Well, guess what, Paul, it's time to grow up. 242 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,680 It's time to take responsibility for what you've done. 243 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Let's stop this pathetic charade. 244 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,560 I really must insist on a break now. 245 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,160 I need time with my client to prepare 246 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,120 a written statement about the death of Susan Harper that he will read. 247 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,640 Interview is being suspended at 15.47 so that Paul Spector 248 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,520 can consult with his solicitor. 249 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,640 Fetch the detention officer. 250 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,080 Get your hands off me! Get your hands off me! 251 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,160 Don't touch me! Do you hear me?! 252 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Don't you put your hands on me! 253 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,720 Have you been drinking? 254 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,040 You, escort Mr Healy out of here! You... 255 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,520 where's that fucking ambulance?! 256 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,200 It's all right. 257 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,640 It's all right, it's all right. 258 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,440 Drive. 259 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Drive! 260 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,920 I'm shaking. 261 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,800 How much did you see? 262 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,880 Erm, my monitor went dead. The attack on Gibson. 263 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,520 It didn't stop there. 264 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,520 What a way for the whole thing to end. 265 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,880 End? What do you mean? 266 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,640 We can't possibly represent him now. 267 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,040 Why not? 268 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,600 I've never seen violence like that before in my life. 269 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,000 What have we just witnessed? The very thing you described. 270 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,760 Their deep obsession with each other. 271 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,080 The emergence under duress of "Bad Paul". 272 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,160 If Larson doesn't find evidence of dissociative disorder, 273 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,760 a split personality, then we will find a psychiatrist who does. 274 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,680 Then we play the "not guilty by reason of insanity" card or even, 275 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,680 if necessary, "guilty but insane". 276 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,360 I can't, Sean, I can't be in the same room with him again. 277 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:42,160 I get it. You admire her. 278 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,840 You want to be her when you grow up. 279 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:44,920 The fact remains, 280 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,560 if you can't make the accused your focus then you shouldn't be 281 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,240 a defence lawyer, probably not a criminal lawyer at all. 282 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,280 Fine. 283 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,400 What? 284 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:54,520 You're on your own. 285 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,440 Open your mouth for me. 286 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,120 Bring your teeth together. 287 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:46,960 Painful? 288 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,640 No, no. 289 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,840 No crunching noises. Any problems with vision? 290 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,880 No. 291 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,120 I think you have a minimally displaced zygoma fracture. 292 00:20:56,120 --> 00:21:00,320 You're going to be on a soft diet for two weeks or so. 293 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,920 Though the bleeding's impressive, the lacerations small. 294 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,000 Might require a stitch or two. Irrigate the wound with 295 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,400 lots of normal saline and I'll take a look. 296 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,880 If you'd like to lie back on the bed for me, please. 297 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,240 Any pain? 298 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Mmm. Some. 299 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,880 Shall I check for blood in the urine? Yes, please. 300 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,400 I'd like to keep you in overnight for observation. 301 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,160 That won't be necessary. 302 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,760 Don't worry, it'll just be bed and breakfast. 303 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,840 I'll be back to stitch that eyebrow. 304 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,840 Thought I'd look in on you before I go. 305 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,360 What time is it? 306 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,160 Just after two. 307 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,200 This is my ninth straight night in a row. 308 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,160 I've been on for 17 hours. 309 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Getting too old for this. 310 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,000 I bet you're glad I saved his life. 311 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,160 How's Tom Anderson? 312 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,800 His arm's broken. 313 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,480 He's undergone a closed reduction to pull the bones back into position. 314 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,720 Oh, Jesus. He's been sent home with his arm in a cast. 315 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,640 Given that you're less likely to develop 316 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,600 post-traumatic stress disorder if you don't sleep 317 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,240 after a bad experience, 318 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,160 maybe I should...keep you awake a wee bit longer at least. 319 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,680 Don't you have a home to go to? 320 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,800 I do. A wife and five kids, as it happens, 321 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,280 from a daughter of 12 to a son of seven months. If I go home now, 322 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,680 it'll be nappy changes and the four o'clock feed. 323 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,320 Might as well sit with you for a bit. 324 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,160 I'll ask you questions. 325 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,200 Really? Aye. 326 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,480 Go on. 327 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,840 Do you like flowers? 328 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,800 Of course. 329 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,320 Can you play any musical instrument? 330 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,480 I could play the violin when I was a girl. 331 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,320 Have you ever been happy? 332 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,640 If so, when? 333 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,640 When I was a child, 334 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,160 before my father died. 335 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,040 Have you any real friends? 336 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,800 A few, yeah. 337 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,520 Have you ever wished anyone dead? 338 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,280 Yes, I have. 339 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,240 Are you a good swimmer? 340 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,840 Very. 341 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,360 Are men or women the stronger, do you think? 342 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,280 What do you think? 343 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,160 Oh, women, without a doubt. 344 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,360 In fact, it's time you hurried up and took over. 345 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:48,080 I mean, it's going to happen so why not get on with it? 346 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,920 Which is your favourite season? 347 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,400 Spring. 348 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,200 Has Mr Spector been a threat to himself or others in the past week? 349 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,200 There have been no more breaches of protocol since he's been back. 350 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,240 Anything more from the test results? 351 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,680 Have you found any compelling inconsistencies? 352 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,800 No, I haven't. Which is unsurprising given his professional knowledge. 353 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:21,920 I know it's in your nature to infer invisible unconscious processes 354 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,200 behind the memory loss and that it is an exceptional 355 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,520 doctor who will take the risk of concluding in writing that someone 356 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:35,240 is malingering but, with respect, that is what I think you should do. 357 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,000 Do you? 358 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,400 The CT head scan with and without contrast was normal, 359 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,720 the MRI of the brain and the spinal cord showed normal results. 360 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,280 There's no evidence of structural brain damage in 361 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,480 the neurological examinations or neuroimaging. 362 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,800 With his history of lying and everything that 363 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,760 he stands to gain from exaggeration and fabrication of the symptoms, 364 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,320 the amnesia has to be malingered. 365 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,400 He's proved how dangerous he is. 366 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,920 It has to be fake. 367 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:34,280 It's not me. 368 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,600 What? 369 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,320 I look at my body and it's not me. 370 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:43,920 It'll take a while to get used to, that's all. 371 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:06,760 We've had a report, ma'am, from the Juvenile Offenders' Centre. 372 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,600 It seems that Katie Benedetto has been self-harming. 373 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,040 How? 374 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,760 Cutting herself with a piece of bone. 375 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,240 What? 376 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,520 They think she must have found it in her food at some point. 377 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,960 Jesus. 378 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,920 'Is there a happy memory from any part of your life 379 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,520 'that you can remember?' 380 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,680 I used to think that there was a black hole inside me 381 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,280 that nothing could fill. 382 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,400 Then I had a daughter. 383 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120 I remember the first time that I put her to sleep. 384 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,800 I was standing, holding her in my arms, rocking her. 385 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,840 I was looking at her all the time. 386 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,560 She was looking up at me. 387 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,640 I began to feel that she trusted me, that she felt safe. 388 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,240 She must have done because her eyelids started closing... 389 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,640 ..little by little, and then she was asleep. 390 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,160 That's a good memory. 391 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,560 Why did you attack Stella Gibson? 392 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,640 Why did you break that young man's arm? 393 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,200 There is a visible and an invisible world. 394 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,560 That's why people get hurt. 395 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,120 Do you think I'm treatable? 396 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,720 Of course. 397 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,520 Curable? 398 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,240 Hmm, that's different. 399 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,760 What would you do for me if I was your patient? 400 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,160 Try to get you to pay attention wisely to things as they are. 401 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,960 Foster clear thinking and open-heartedness. 402 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,840 Try to develop the capacity in you to experience 403 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,400 a feeling without necessarily acting on it. 404 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,120 Try to enable you to see the difference between thoughts 405 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,440 and reality. 406 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,400 I'd imagine you're a good father. 407 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,320 What do you mean by "good father"? 408 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,480 Someone who is present, there for his children. 409 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,920 Has anyone ever told you you sometimes have bad dreams 410 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,440 that you can't remember? 411 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,120 Has your mummy or your daddy ever told you that? 412 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,360 Yes. Mummy took me to the doctor's one time. 413 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,200 Have you had any bad dreams since you've been staying with 414 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,080 Joan and Stephen? I don't think so. 415 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,400 She hasn't. She's been sleeping well. 416 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,880 Daddy said he had bad dreams like mine when 417 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,600 he was in the children's home. 418 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,360 Did he? Did he say what he dreamed about? 419 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,600 Frightening things. 420 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,400 How do you feel about your daddy right now, Olivia? 421 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,760 I love him. 422 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,200 But? 423 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,760 I don't think I'll go see him for a while. 424 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,960 How long do you think before you'll see him again? 425 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,560 When I'm grown up I might. Or if I have a baby. 426 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,480 If I have a baby, I might go take her to see him. 427 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,120 What happened to your face? 428 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,440 I was in a car accident. 429 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,480 No, I wasn't. 430 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Paul Spector attacked me. 431 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,360 I've got marks like that. 432 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,280 Show me. 433 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,960 I can't. 434 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,960 Why? 435 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,000 They're on my upper thighs and on the soles of my feet. 436 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,200 I didn't want anyone to know, to see them. 437 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,160 They were private. 438 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,120 Why did you do it? 439 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,520 I think for the same reason you do. 440 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,640 What's that? 441 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,120 Anger. 442 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,640 What did you have to be angry about? 443 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,800 My father. 444 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,520 Why? 445 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,120 He died. 446 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,760 How? 447 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,440 He was ill. 448 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,440 How old were you? 449 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,800 14. 450 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,680 My father killed himself. 451 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,320 I thought it was an accident. 452 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,120 He chose to ride a motorbike. 453 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,680 Even though I worried about him every time he went out... 454 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,640 ..every night he was late home. 455 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,840 He loved the bike more than he loved me. 456 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,920 Loved the thrill of speed more than he loved his only daughter. 457 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,800 I don't call that an accident. 458 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:54,720 Is that why you're throwing your life away? 459 00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:59,040 You know you can't get him back. 460 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,000 No matter how hard you try. 461 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:34,240 There was a man of double deed, Who sowed his garden full of seed; 462 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:41,360 When the seed began to grow, 'Twas like a garden full of snow; 463 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,360 When the snow began to melt, 'Twas like a ship without a belt; 464 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:55,800 When the ship began to sail, 'Twas like a bird without a tail; 465 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:03,120 When the bird began to fly, 'Twas like an eagle in the sky; 466 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:12,280 When the sky began to roar, 'Twas like a lion at my door; 467 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,920 When my door began to crack, 'Twas like a stick across my back; 468 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:28,160 When my back began to smart, 'Twas like a penknife in my heart; 469 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,920 And when my heart began to bleed... 470 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:42,320 ..'Twas death, and death, and death indeed. 471 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,200 I need you to do me a favour. 472 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,040 'I know that everything feels tainted, polluted.' 473 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,520 But it's not. 474 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,720 We all have those voices in our heads, that tell us we're 475 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:31,560 a disappointment, that tell us our work is insignificant. 476 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,760 That it's not good enough, it takes too long, it's too hard. 477 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,680 But when times are tough, we need tough dreams. 478 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,960 But real dreams, not lies. 479 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,480 Not an unreality like Paul. 480 00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:01,240 You need to fight for yourself, Katie, because right now... 481 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,440 ..you're in danger. 482 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,000 What's this? 483 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,040 It's your chocolate. 484 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,720 I don't want that chocolate. I want what he's got. 485 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,040 Mark, you're diabetic. That's your special chocolate. 486 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,120 I don't like special chocolate. I want what he's got. 487 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,320 This stuff tastes like dog chocolate. 488 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,040 I'm not eating dog chocolate! 489 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,680 I'm afraid it's this or nothing. 490 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,560 Then give me my money back. 491 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,400 I've spent your money on the things you asked for. 492 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,560 I want my money back! 493 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,880 Mark, calm yourself. 494 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,960 I'm not a dog. I'm not eating that shit. I refuse. 495 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,040 Calm down, Mark, or you'll be restrained. 496 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,200 What did you say to me? You called me a homosexual! 497 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,680 I didn't call you anything! You called me a homosexual! 498 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,800 Calm down now! 499 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,040 'We all need love and we all need nurture. 500 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,840 'There's too much death and destruction.' 501 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,840 But friends who love you should... 502 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,320 ..warm you like the sun. 503 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,800 Make you feel good about yourself. 504 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,400 Not freeze you in their contempt and in their hate. 505 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,160 Anger corrodes our belief that anything good can happen to us. 506 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,200 Paul's been destroyed by his anger, his rage. 507 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:02,000 And you, you hurt a friend, to impress him. 508 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,640 But he doesn't care. 509 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,480 He doesn't even know you exist. 510 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,720 Watch his head, watch his head. 511 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:02,280 And out, and out. Let's go! Let's go. 512 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,120 Go, go, go! 513 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:20,680 Fuck off! That's right, fuck the lot of you! 514 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,680 Fuck off! 515 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,600 You and I were loved so much... 516 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,960 ..even if our fathers couldn't stay around for us. 517 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,600 Maybe we both need to be held while we grieve, 518 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,240 but it has to be someone who can feel pain for our pain, 519 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:30,640 not revel in it. 520 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,240 Not someone who will abandon us. 521 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,760 Sweet Jesus. 522 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,400 Somebody call for an ambulance! Call an ambulance. 523 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,880 Where's Spector? 524 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,560 Where's Spector?! 525 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,160 Check the treatment room! The de-escalation room! 526 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,560 Check the kitchen! 527 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,120 Shit! 528 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,160 Bailey's room! 529 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,400 Oh, God! 530 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,360 Got him, got him. 531 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,240 Quick. Mind his head, mind his head, mind his head. 532 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,960 Get the belt, get the belt. 533 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,440 Paul, Paul. 534 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,000 I'm sorry. 535 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,720 Gibson. 536 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,520 OK. 537 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,000 What is it? 538 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,320 I have to go. What's happened? 539 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,760 I can't tell you. I'm sorry. 540 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,120 Is it Paul? 541 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,880 Bye, Katie. 542 00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:55,200 Oh, God, Dr Larson, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. 543 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,200 Paul Spector, the man charged with the four recent murders 544 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,240 in the Belfast area... 545 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:23,880 was found dead last night in one of the bedrooms of 546 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,600 the Foyle Clinic where he was undergoing psychiatric assessment. 547 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,160 This morning, an inquiry was launched into how he had come to die 548 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,320 whilst under level two observation by clinic staff. 549 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,160 Spector, 32, was found dead at 9.31pm. 550 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,240 While efforts were made to revive him, 551 00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:46,720 he was certified dead by doctors at 9.51pm. 552 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,600 The Foyle Clinic's leading clinician 553 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,840 was also injured during the incident. 554 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,280 He is in hospital and in a stable condition. 555 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,360 His injuries are not thought to be life-threatening. 556 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,320 Another patient, Mark Bailey, 29, was killed. 557 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,360 His family have been informed. 558 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,200 An inquiry into his death is ongoing. 559 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,920 I can confirm that the PSNI are not looking for anyone else 560 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,240 in connection with the murders of Fiona Gallagher, Sarah Kay, 561 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:21,440 Alice Parker Monroe or Joseph Brawley. 562 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,000 An inquest will take place into each of those deaths. 563 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,280 DCI Eastwood will oversee the preparation of those inquest files. 564 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,360 In light of recent events, and as of today, 565 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,600 I am standing down from my position 566 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,320 as Gold Commander of Operation Musicman. 567 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,160 In addition, the Chief Constable has accepted my resignation. 568 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,840 I would like to take this opportunity to thank 569 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,960 Detective Superintendent Gibson for all her hard work, 570 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:59,200 her dedication to duty and her leadership during the investigation. 571 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,560 Thank you. 572 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,360 I'm sorry, sir. 573 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,640 Take care, Dani. 574 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,520 And you, ma'am. 575 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,800 "In olden times, when wishing still did some good... 576 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,040 "..there lived a king whose daughters were all beautiful. 577 00:53:56,240 --> 00:54:01,720 "But the youngest was so beautiful that the sun itself, who indeed 578 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:07,280 "has seen so much, marvelled every time it shone upon her face. 579 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,640 "In the vicinity of the King's castle there was a large, 580 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,760 "dark forest and in this forest, 581 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,840 "beneath an old linden tree, there was a well. 582 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,880 "In the heat of the day, 583 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,360 "the Princess would go out into the forest 584 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,880 "and sit on the edge of the cool well. 585 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,080 "To pass the time she would take a golden ball, 586 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,000 "throw it into the air and then catch it. 587 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,360 "It was her favourite plaything..." 588 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,120 Thank you. Thank you. 589 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:59,920 "As she was lying in bed, he came creeping up to her and said, 590 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:04,400 "'I am tired and I want to sleep as well as you do. 591 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,760 "'Pick me up or I'll tell your father.' 592 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,840 "With that, she became bitterly angry and threw him against 593 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,880 "the wall with all her might. 594 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,400 "'Now you will have your peace, you disgusting frog!'" 595 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,800 She's supposed to kiss him, not throw him against the wall. 596 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,480 That's Disney. 597 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,400 This is the real story. 598 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,600 "But when he fell down, he was not a frog... 599 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,640 "..but a prince with beautiful, friendly eyes."