Here we go. Five, four.
Are we gonna start off light for a little warm-up vibes,
or are we gonna get straight to it?
Angelica, you got into an Instagram scuffle with Audrey.
Chris calls me a whore right in front of you.
You're the one that suggested I talk to Shayne.
- When did I call you a whore? - Sue me.
Can I ask you a question? Why are you so mad today?
Because after the past two episodes have come out,
I have been brutalized on social media.
- You're not the only one. - Shut the fuck up.
- You're not the only one. - Fuck you, because
you fucking started it, you bitch.
When you started raising your voice, I got a boner.
I wa-- Yeah, that was deep inside.
I had to let it out. Sorry.
Coming up on the two-part Vanderpump Rules Reunion...
See you in a bit.
Whoo.
I'm gonna need, like, eight shots of tequila
- to get through this day. - I'm excited about this.
I love all of them right now. Right now it's pure.
Marcus, what percent straight are you?
I'd say, like, 80s to the 90s.
Hello!
Why are you so wide awake?
It's gonna be a slimy day, I think.
One of the hosts at SUR
shared the OnlyFans video with you.
On a scale from nothing to White Lotus, what was it?
How far is too far for you guys?
You have a baby pact with Shayne?
She would like to have my genes.
I'm just like, who's gonna have the nuts
to try to come for your boy?
- I don't trust either of them. - You're so delusional.
The only thing I'm nervous about is if somebody
starts getting me really pissed off.
You're on top of me, telling me, "Oh, by the way, it's over.
- "Let me kiss you." - That's not how I did it.
That's how it happened.
You act like you wanna make peace, but you don't.
Yes, I fucking do. We can go back and forth all day.
- Let's go back and forth. - Okay, perfect.
Why are you so emotional?
Audrey, when the show started airing,
a woman posted that she had been sleeping with Chris
the whole time that you two were seeing each other.
There was details that were, like, believable.
Were you sleeping with another woman while you were with her?
Clear the room.
Here we go. Five, four, three, two, one.
Hey, everybody, welcome to the Vanderpump Rules
Season 12 Reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen.
And while the faces at SUR have changed,
drama, dysfunction, and dreams of making it in LA
are still on the menu right next
to the goat cheese balls.
- Hey, Lisa. - Hey.
- How are you? - I'm good.
You're aging in reverse. I gotta tell you.
You too. You too.
All this whole thing, the hair dye, yeah, I noticed.
Can you believe it's been 13 years
since our first reunion at SUR?
- Yes, I can. - You can. Yeah, yeah.
Hey, everybody, welcome to the Vanderpump Rules Reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen with the co-owner
and boss lady from SUR, Lisa Vanderpump.
- Hello, Andy. - Nice to see you.
I feel like I've aged way more than 13 years
with shit that I've been through with this lot.
- Hi, Venus. - Hi, Andy.
What are you manifesting for today?
Surviving the drama.
Okay. That's good.
- Hi, Angelica. - Hi, Andy.
Quick question, if I need a ride
to LAX later tonight, you got me?
I would pick you up in a heartbeat.
- Yes? - Absolutely.
Wow. Hey, Shayne.
- What's up? - You know, your laugh
has become quite the hot topic.
Was it something that people have always commented on?
Well, some people said I had a hot guy laugh.
Some people said I had a dumb guy laugh.
- Okay. - Which one is it?
It's both. It's a hot dumb guy laugh.
- All right. Very good. - Yeah.
- Hey, Marcus. - What's going on, brother?
Bring me up to speed right out of the gate.
Are you and Kim together right now?
We're together, brother. We're together.
- Very good. - I know it's a surprise
to everybody, but yes.
- I don't think so. - Thank you.
- Hey, Kim. Great to see you. - Hi.
- You look beautiful. - Thank you.
Marcus joked that you are the only person
in the world who is 100% straight.
I mean, he just, like, doesn't understand
that I'm, like, not attracted to women in, like,
the West Hollywood world where girls are kissing girls
and having fun, and it's just not my vibe.
She did admit to a girl crush recently that I was like, "Huh."
- Who was it? - "Interesting."
Marcus, that begs the question. What percent straight are you?
I'd say, like, 80s to the 90s.
- All right. - It went down.
- Hi, Natalie.
- Hi. - Love your song "Passenger."
- Thank you. Thank you so much. - Congratulations.
I hear you grew up in the same neighborhood
- as Ariana Grande. - That's true.
She reached out for a collab yet?
Oh, I mean, I'm just waiting for the day.
- Yeah. - It's obvious yet.
- Hi, Demy. - Hi.
I hear you have a new man in your life.
I do. His name is Reed. It's been almost a year now.
He was our old GM at SUR.
Well, that tracks.
I keep it in the restaurant, I guess.
You were working here when the former Vanderpump Rules
- was shooting. - Yeah.
I'm gonna see if I got sat.
Then I'll sit.
Half of them were already on their way out,
so I worked with, like, Raquel a lot.
I saw James a lot. He was still DJing.
Sandoval would pop in and bartend.
And you two started on the same day, right?
- Yep. - Three years ago?
- May 2023. - I served Kim right before...
- Hilarious, yeah. - ...she started working.
Yeah, I did. I, like, came here for dinner,
and I went to the bar,
and I asked Natalie for a truffle gnocchi.
And there was hundreds of people just sardined.
I was like, "Are you kidding me?"
I was like, I'm not finding you with this food.
You need to come back here. There's a million people.
Oh, my God, that is exactly not the kind of service you want.
Truffle gnocchi you went for.
- I want what I want. - I love it.
But she got it. She came back,
- and she found it. - I did.
- Hey, Jason. - Yes, sir.
I don't think we've ever seen Lisa demote someone
quite like she demoted you.
How's the crab cake come?
It comes in a cake form.
It has a little bit of cream on the side. It's really good.
Of course crab cake comes in cake form.
That's why it's called crab cake.
Are you at the host stand these days,
- or what are you up to? - Honestly, I wanted to be
a well-rounded restaurant worker.
So I figured, you know, I can work at the host stand.
I can be a server, bartender, maybe.
Okay, well, I don't think it was your decision, though.
- Hi, Audrey. - Hi.
- You look gorgeous. - Thank you.
Old Hollywood meets skin.
It's giving slutty Marilyn Monroe.
There you go. Wow.
- Hey, Chris. - How you doing?
- How's it going? - Can't complain.
I love that you normalized penis pumps.
Why would you love that?
Because he...
- Do you have one? - No, I don't.
As a matter of fact, I needed a little explanation.
Shayne helped me out the other night
at Watch What Happens Live.
You use it to...
I can't use it. It hurts too much.
I just use erectile dysfunction medication.
- Okay, okay. - Yeah.
Is the point to make it bigger or harder?
- Harder. - Okay.
I wanted to bring it to light, you know?
Because I feel like everyone's so scared
to talk about their sexuality
and what they do, and sometimes you just...
You gotta just pump it up a little bit.
All right. Well, I wanna get started.
Last fall, Bravo announced
it was rebooting Vanderpump Rules
with an entirely new group of servers and bartenders,
sending shock waves through the Bravosphere.
Lisa, when you reboot a beloved series,
there are obviously gonna be comparisons,
and it's impossible to replicate
the Vanderpump Rules of the past.
What do you say to people who compare the two shows?
I mean, of course they're going to. I understand that.
But we're talking about different people,
different problems, different lives.
What I like about this group is they all had
very strong personal stories as well.
So we kind of got in deep pretty quickly.
Marcus, after getting kicked out of the staff meeting,
you said everyone drinks at work,
but you happened to get caught.
Who drinks the most on the clock?
Can I be honest?
Yeah.
- Can I be honest? - Yeah.
- Can I be honest? - You can always be honest.
It's a back and forth between me and Demy.
Demy, you are in the management position.
- I know. - You know damn well.
I'm not taking shots or doing sangria.
If I'm doing reports or something
and I'm having a vodka soda when counting the money...
That would be-- that would be okay.
I'm not taking shots or chugging sangria in the back.
If Chris is bartending, I'm definitely drinking the most.
I know! I know that.
I don't even have to ask him. I just give him a look.
Okay, listen, you're going down a path
that you won't come back from.
Do you want me to lie?
You and Demy both have a specific look.
Why are you admitting to this?
- I can't lie to Lisa. - Stop whilst you're ahead.
- You're right. - Yeah.
Natalie, the season kicked off with you returning
from a week-long suspension
for screaming at your ex-boyfriend at this very bar.
Natalie was at the bar, wasted, screaming at Paulo,
begging him to unblock her number.
She has her finger in my face saying,
"You're always against me.
"I can't believe I'm being treated like this. I'm Natalie."
She's screaming at the top of her lungs,
so Demy had to kick her out.
That was so not my intention, just for the record.
I had come in with family, and my ex and I
were not really on the best of speaking terms,
but he was so kind to my family
that it triggered something in me.
I was like, "Oh, really? So does that mean we're good?"
- How'd that go? - Obviously not amazing.
- Yes. - Yeah.
Now, Paulo, the ex-boyfriend in question,
was involved in an accident a few months ago.
I'm happy to hear that he's been doing a lot better, yes?
- Yeah. - It's unbelievable
that he actually came through it.
Yeah, we actually had dinner that night, and he said,
"I'll let you know when I get home,"
and I never heard from him,
so I woke up in the morning, like 7:00 a.m.,
I went over there, and I didn't see his motorcycle,
- and I called Demy. - Yeah, she was freaking out,
and I was like, there has to be an explanation.
Like, he wouldn't just not go home,
and he was in the ICU.
Wow. Interesting that you called Demy.
Paulo's, like, one of my closest friends.
Well, he is your boyfriend as well.
No, I ne-- no, I never considered him a boyfriend.
You definitely had a relationship with him.
- We had a little fling. - Yeah.
I was getting out of a five-year relationship,
and he and I started a little fling,
and he just wanted something more serious
that I couldn't give him.
So he starts talking to the new girl,
and instead of just telling me,
he just kind of, like, does it behind my back.
But I had no idea.
Well, I-- okay, but...
- Demy, you don't believe that. - I know.
I don't believe that at all.
She has literally seen me multiple times,
like, with him when we were fighting.
Like, she was bartending with him, so she would see him.
The night that you were fighting was the night
that I found out about it.
That was the moment I found out
that there was something happening between you guys,
once I had already hooked up with him.
Oh, my fucking God. I'm gonna, like, lose my mind.
It's terrible because it, like, fucks up
- our whole friendship. - It doesn't.
We became friends, honestly, he's what brought us close.
Like, I feel like there's this whole narrative
out there that, like, me and Natalie
are fighting over a guy, and that never happened.
So, Kim, knowing this situation was happening,
can you explain why her friendship
with Marcus was triggering to you?
It wasn't that her friendship was triggering.
All of his friends are women.
All of his friends are-- a lot of his friends
are women who he's hooked up with.
Like, I have navigated friendships
with women who have had their tongue down his throat.
Natalie is someone who gets close to someone really fast.
As soon as she, like, starts to chat with someone,
it's phone call, phone call, FaceTime, text messages.
But once I heard that she made a phone call to him,
essentially bashing Demy and I,
- was when I said... - Wait. What?
I wanna explain the phone call,
but I wasn't expecting you to say that
it was bashing you and Demy.
The thing that set it all off
was before filming, Natalie got suspended,
and Marcus told me that Natalie called him essentially saying
how Demy and I were not good friends...
- Of course he said that. - That's not what I said.
- I said that you-- - So then what was it?
You were basically saying, you know,
I'm pissed off last night.
Like, all my friends kicked me out.
- I wasn't pissed. I was hurt. - Hurt, sure.
I was hysterically crying. I was upset.
She was thankful that I had her back in the moment.
And as soon as I heard that, I texted Natalie,
in a non-attacking way, I said, "I love you,
"I hope you don't feel attacked when I'm saying this,
"but I'm starting to get uncomfortable
"with the way that you're navigating
"your friendship with Marcus, I don't appreciate
"that you're calling him, blah, blah, blah."
Her response to me, I think, should've been like,
"I'm so sorry you feel that way, that's not how you should feel."
But her response was, "So you're saying I can't talk to him?
"Why can Demy talk to him and call him and I can't?"
Red flag. Don't challenge me when I'm giving you
a boundary as a friend.
I don't call him to be like, "Hey, how's your day?"
I called him to thank him for being there for me,
and I said there was a resolution to the problem.
Okay, I never have had someone stand up
and yell in my face and scream
like the way that you did at the Belmont,
and that's why I decided to take space from you.
You literally stood up, towered over me, hands in face.
You have done that multiple times to both of us.
Because you were saying that I was being inappropriate
with your boyfriend and I was pissed!
- And that's fine-- - I didn't deserve to be accused
of being not a girl's girl.
You called me not a girl's girl. None of that's fucking true.
- You are not a girl's girl. - Yes, I fucking am!
Okay, let's talk about all the press that you've done
that you've thrown us under the bus and all the lies
- that you've told. - Because you lied
- about me multiple times. - But you deserved it.
- You were lying. - Not standing up for yourself.
You said that I've been a bully.
I'm not gonna tell her. She already knows.
Tell me when I've been a bully to you.
You were mean the whole season, Kim.
You told me that I'm pathetic, I'm stupid.
No, we're not talking about that.
We're talking about you went on Lala's podcast.
Because the general feeling that I--
- Let me speak. - I can't do this.
Right after New York, you went on Lala's podcast.
You said, "I don't know why she thinks I'm still
"obsessed with her man and I want her man."
Yeah, but it's, like, crazy because these girls
still believe what they made up in their minds.
It's like, you guys see the text now.
It's like, it's still difficult for them to accept
that I don't want their man.
She's a bully, she's insecure about her relationship.
- Tell me what's-- - I do think that
you're insecure about your relationship.
When I saw the first episode, I was very hurt.
Natalie was sending Marcus good morning texts,
which is not appropriate to send anyone you're not dating.
Then she's sending him pictures of heels, a guy's fantasy.
They're called fuck-me heels for a reason. I mean, like, really?
Do you think that I want to keep feeling
- uncomfortable around you? - Why are you?
Because I would still come to work
- and feel very uncomfortable. - Why?
And I told you this, you guys are always good,
but I come in here and I get avoided, ignored.
- No, you don't. - Yes, I do.
When you do shady shit, like go on podcasts and lie,
- yes, of course. - I didn't lie.
- Yes, you did. - You said multiple lies
about me. We can go back and forth all day.
- We can. - Okay, perfect.
No, we can't.
You love to talk about character assassination.
- That's all that you do. - I'm gonna move on.
- No, it's not. - Okay, all right.
All I did was wanna make peace with you!
You act like you wanna make peace, but you don't.
- Yes, I fucking do. - Okay, take a breath.
Coming up next...
I was shown a Reddit thread
and it was people saying, like,
"I was talking to him the whole time
"when we was on the show, he's still in my DM."
Welcome back to the Vanderpump Rules Season 12 Reunion.
For most of the season, Chris and Audrey
seemed like the healthiest couple in the group.
But as these two inched towards being exclusive,
Chris was not quite ready for Audrey to be his only fan.
Well done, Andy.
- Andy! - Well done.
It seemed like there were sparks
from the beginning with you and Chris.
Aside from bonding over ice cream,
what did you dig about him?
Mmm, the first conversation we actually had,
I asked him, I was like, "So what's your type?"
And he was like... "Dark hair, tall."
I was like, "Oh, great. So I'm screwed." I was like, "Okay."
I was like, "What about, like, personality?"
And he was like, "Oh, yeah, I like personality too."
I was like, "Okay, great. We got some work to do."
I didn't just say that.
I think I looked at it like a challenge.
What first drew you to Audrey?
I think it was just our... I don't know.
We definitely had like chemistry.
I just feel like it was very easy to talk to.
I don't know, like, for 22, I would say
she is much more mature for her age than most 22-year-olds.
- You are 31? - I'm 31 years old.
Okay. Do you ever date older women?
I used to date a lot of older women back in the day.
Yeah, I don't know why I have a weird thing for older women.
She knows that.
What's up, Mama Pump?
You're looking hot today in the purple.
That's not gonna fly with me.
Okay.
Do not drag me into this equation.
Hey, Ken better look out. I'm not gonna lie.
You should be looking out.
So you used to have a thing for older women?
Yeah, I mean, when I was, like, in my teens, you know.
- When you were in your teens? - Yeah.
How did that-- Okay, well, then let's dig in there.
- So you were in your teens. - I had just, like, a kink.
I was just like, "Oh, older girls are just more
"experienced in bed, maybe they can teach me a few things."
- And did they? - Oh, my God.
- For sure. Yes, absolutely. - What's wrong with you?
They didn't play games. They got right to the point.
- What's the point? - Fucking, Lisa. Fucking.
- Oh, my God. - I was like 17, 18.
No, being with an older person, you don't have to wonder.
It's more direct. The communication is there.
Did you ever date one of them seriously, though?
- Mmm, no. - Easy now. "One of them."
- Easy. - Not really.
Audrey, when you found out
Chris had been on two reality shows before,
- your reaction was what? - I was surprised. I genuinely
didn't know until the day that I took him horseback riding.
- I was like, "You didn't know?" - And then I did my research.
And when you went on those shows,
were you doing it to make a name for yourself?
Were you doing it to find love?
- It was not to find love. - Okay.
To-- yes, to get on the show, I did say that.
You know, that's what a dating show is.
- Yes. - You know.
But no, I did it to get a name for myself.
- Yeah. - Because I've always been
kind of dancing around different career paths.
I was always very unsure of what I wanted to do with my life.
And so this was kind of like an invitation to start a new life.
Audrey, we found out during the drive to Paso Robles
that you and Chris had recently slept together
- for the first time. - Mm-hmm.
How did you manage to break a bed frame?
Girl, what happened to your bed?
Isn't this brand new?
Okay, it was from Ikea,
so I don't know if it was user error or Ikea error.
I built it myself, so it was probably user error.
That's not what he wants to hear.
Oh, yeah. It was a good time.
Did you keep going after it broke or did you stop?
- Good question. - I think we did.
- We did. - And then we slept on it.
And then we slept. Yeah.
- Then we were tired. - Nice.
Hey, Jason, Chris and Audrey had been seeing each other
for about five weeks at that point,
which you said was long for Chris.
He's an Aries. The dude's like fire, you know?
He's just bouncing around.
So honestly, there was something really special
- in Audrey to hold him down. - Yeah.
And I got to say, I see it too.
Like, beautiful as she is on the outside
she is on the inside, and she's a very mature girl.
And that's what Chris, like, I think, found
- very attractive about her. - Yeah.
Do you usually wait that long before sleeping with a woman?
- Not typically. - Or was the fact
that you were on the show,
did you feel like you had to measure yourself?
Well, so what I've really come to realize
in the past few years,
just growing the fuck up because I'm 31 now.
And I've had a lot of experience.
I've talked to a whole bunch of girls.
I've hooked up with a decent amount of girls.
And I've really come to the realization
that the faster we hook up, the quicker it ends.
- True. - If it's a one-night stand,
it's usually nothing more than that.
- It's just one night. - If it's two days,
it usually lasts maybe two months.
But there was plenty, probably multiple times
that Audrey-- we could have hooked up.
- You know? - And what about you?
- Do you typically wait also? - Yeah.
It's either like night of, never see him again.
- Or it's, like, weeks. - Right.
If I really genuinely enjoy the person
and want a-- can see a future with them, I wait.
And did you like it that he was waiting?
- Of course. That's what-- - Yeah.
I loved the pace we were going at.
So everything seemed to be going swimmingly
until Audrey heard a conversation with your cousin
- about you going to Bali... - Right.
...to "fuck bitches."
- Mad bitches. Mad bitches. - Mad bitches.
So Audrey, was that your first red flag from Chris?
It was definitely, like, the second.
I will give Chris his flowers, though.
Not tulips. But in the moment--
- That was a good one. - Sorry.
- That was a good one. - That was good.
But in the moment, he didn't respond
to Jason's brother in a way of like, "Oh, yeah, totally, bro.
"We're gonna get all of 'em."
He was like, "Dude, shut the fuck up."
That's why I didn't get mad right then and be like,
"What the fuck, why are you talking to him like that?"
It just made me start to spiral in here
because I realized I really did like him.
And I was like, "Wait a second.
"Is this-- should I have this conversation?
"'Cause I don't want that to happen.
"I don't want him to go to Bali
"and fuck bitches. Like, mad bitches.
"Like, I really-- I really like this guy."
It was that, and then it was also hearing conversations
about comparing this show to the other shows.
When it comes down to, like, a real relationship
and other dating shows that we do,
it's not, like, truly us.
It's just, like, for entertainment.
I mean, we just----ed around a lot
- where we joke around. - Yeah, we're playful.
Which really set me back because like he just said,
the other two shows, he wasn't going on to look for love.
He was going on as an opportunity.
That made me think, "Is this even real?"
And I don't blame you for that at all.
Like, I would understand that so much.
So Chris, were you being your authentic self
on this show, would you say?
Yeah, so the main point of it was
these were dating shows and that's really it.
There is a prize at the end of this.
There's a lot of people that go on reality dating shows
and end up in-- in fake relationships
and they want to get clout from it
and they want to win the prize.
- This is not a dating show. - Okay.
Audrey, you told producers that when the show started airing,
a woman posted that she had been sleeping with Chris
the whole time that you two were seeing each other.
So I was shown a Reddit thread. I'm not even on Reddit.
I was shown this, and I was very confused
because it was-- there was certain details
that were, like, believable.
People saying, like, "I was talking to him
"the whole time when we was on the show.
"He's still in my DMs," all these things.
- And I really, really-- - But talking to someone
is different than actually sleeping with someone.
- You guys saw the Reddit. - It was sent to me by a friend.
I saw it once and I was like, "I don't wanna see this."
Yeah, and when it was sent to me,
I felt like as her friend, I wanted to let her know.
And basically what it had said was they were seeing you
and you were telling this person that the relationship
between you and the person on the show was fake.
Talking to someone
is different than actually sleeping with someone.
- You guys saw the Reddit. - It was sent to me by a friend.
I saw it once and I was like, "I don't wanna see this."
And basically what it had said was they were seeing you
and you were telling this person that the relationship
between you and the person on the show was fake.
I saw your relationship. I know it wasn't fake.
- Right. Right. - And I know that too,
and unless men are vile, evil monsters,
- and that was all fake... - They are.
...I don't believe that it was disingenuine.
And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
- So Chris, was it real? - It 100% was real.
What's your response to this Reddit thread?
I mean, people talk shit.
There are rumors that my last dating show,
I was in a fake relationship.
So, I mean, Reddit is filled
with a whole bunch of people that are just gonna hate
and talk their shit and try to stir the pot.
Were you sleeping with another woman
- while you were with her? - I definitely was-- 1,000% no.
- So, riddle me this, Chris. - Mm-hmm.
You seemed shocked when Audrey
put the brakes on your relationship
- at Universal Studios. - Mm-hmm. Yeah.
The next level of, like, a romantic connection
was that I was, like, kind of missing.
And so, I think I'm just at a place
where I need to take a little bit of a step back.
Then, a few days later,
you decide you're gonna go all in with her.
You say, "I wanna commit to you."
I want you, Audrey. Like, I want us.
- I----ing like you a lot. - I know.
And, like, I want to prove that.
And then you say to Jason, "I'm out."
I'm gonna be going to Europe, Jersey, and probably Bali.
So I'm like, well, I'm not gonna see her,
so I'm like, I don't think we should take that big step yet.
I know that's so inconsistent
because I was one day about it, the next day not.
I'm not gonna blame being drunk at all.
Like, I wanted to continue doing what we were doing,
but then I put, like, the brakes on
and I was like, let me just be real
about how the future is looking.
I don't want to promise her something.
I don't wanna tell her I'm ready for something,
even though I already did.
I feel like I either say it now that I'm not ready
or I keep bullshitting
and I keep lying to myself, lying to you.
- It was completely unfair. - 100%. It was selfish.
- I agree. - It was unfair. It was selfish.
I don't think the relationship was fake, but I think
that you have a problem with making up your mind.
And that's not to say that I hate you for that.
It's just to say that I got to a point
where after the second time,
I don't let people do things to me a second time,
mmm, let alone a third time.
I just think that I would've loved to hear
what you had to say at the bar at Universal.
I kind of wanted you to, like, give that back to me.
It seems so complicated though, doesn't it?
- Very. - Is it? I mean,
why didn't you guys just say,
"I really like you, I like you too.
"I'm going away. Why don't you come with me?
- "Why don't I go with you?" - Exactly.
It all comes down to me and my commitment issues.
- That's what it comes down to. - Okay.
And where I'm at in my life, you see there's tons of things.
Number one, I am not where I want to be
or where I think I should be
to start a family, to have a girlfriend,
and I'm not gonna waste anyone's time
if I don't think I'm ready to even get fucking married
or make that big of a commitment.
She wasn't asking you to marry her.
- I know. - You wanted to waste my time.
You wanted to go and travel and still get to know me.
- That's wasting my time. - But that's why I told you
that I wanna leave the door open for you.
It seemed odd that you had her over
- for salads. - Yes.
Then said, "I wanna see other people."
- It was misleading. - What was the intention there?
I really could not fucking tell you.
- You know what my theory is? - What?
My theory is it was a blow to your ego
that she broke things off with you at Universal,
and that confused you,
and so then that made you go all in.
And then when she said yes, you were like, "Wait a minute,
- "what did I do?" - One could say that.
I also think I played the card of, like,
"Okay, let me show him what he's missing until it's gone,"
or whatever the fuck the saying is.
- Don't know what you got. - Until it's gone.
So I was like, "Okay, fine. I'm walking away.
- "Figure it out." - I think that's a good theory.
- Okay. - Here's the thing also.
"Here's a salad. I don't wanna be exclusive."
I know you were ready to commit.
I know. I thought you were gonna ask me to be your girlfriend
and then all of a sudden you give me tulips
and a sandwich and say, "I wanna see other people."
- You made that very clear. - Like, that was crazy.
That was crazy work.
- Are you hurt? - Very.
And the facts are-- the facts are,
it was either I commit, ask you to be my girlfriend.
When I know I'm not ready, I commit.
Or if I don't do that, then that's it, and we're done.
And I just-- I wasn't ready to do either of those.
I understand that.
I was expecting to, at least at the point where we were at,
agree that maybe we weren't gonna just see other people.
I didn't need you to say, "I'm your boyfriend."
I didn't need you to say, "I'm never gonna see,
"like, dah-dah-dah-dah ever again."
Like, I take things day by day.
I take things at face value.
And if in that moment, after eight weeks,
you weren't able to tell me,
"I don't wanna sleep with other people,"
then that shows me that you are already planning
in the future to do that.
And I'm not gonna stick around to be the girl
who watches it happen and watch
- my self-worth disintegrate. - Good for you.
Have the two of you hooked up since the show wrapped?
- No. No. - No.
No? Are you seeing anyone now?
A little bit, yes.
- One person? - One person, yes.
Are you seeing anyone now?
I'm focusing on myself, and I'm seeing myself
and I'm not letting anyone else into my circle
until they prove to me that they are worth my time,
my body, my energy, everything.
- All right. - And I hope that that person
that you're seeing is ready for you
and that you figured your shit out for her.
That's fair. Mm-hmm.
So it really hurt you, this whole situation?
It hurt me because I just felt like I wasn't good enough
for someone to commit to me.
Well, you 100% are.
I know, but that's not what it felt like.
- You didn't make me feel-- - That's my fault.
You didn't make me feel wanted.
You didn't make me feel like I deserved a relationship,
especially when I laid all my cards out
on the table for you and stuck up for you in situations that
I don't know if I would have done for someone else.
- I did it because it was you. - Mm-hmm.
All right, we're gonna take a five minute break.
- Five minutes. - Oh, my God.
- I gotta get a snacky. - I need something to drink.
Good stuff, dude. Holy shit.
- Are you all right? - I'm okay.
I think I said everything I need to say, which I'm glad.
I don't want to see you get angry just with the world.
I know. I need to let the anger go.
Yeah, you do, you do.
I feel like you got-- Well, besides the OnlyFans stuff.
Okay, you said it. You said your piece.
- Now... - Breathe.
Now, don't shut yourself off to the world.
I'm not. I'm open to it.
I love love. I want love. And I want friendship.
- You are a very lovable person. - Thank you.
You're very sweet. You're very beautiful.
- Thank you. - You're very smart.
- You've got strength. - Thank you.
- Don't shut yourself down. - Thank you.
Welcome back to the Vanderpump Rules season 12 reunion.
Audrey, between lap dances and Kim's tears,
- your 22nd birthday party was-- - It was awesome.
I hate that Kim's crying,
but I don't hate that she's crying to me.
I'm 22 now.
Don't ever say that out loud to me ever again.
I'm with Demy on this one. Who turns 22?
- I was so upset and so jealous. - I mean, it's so unfair.
Do you sometimes feel more mature
than your colleagues here?
Every single day.
Yeah, I think that turning 22, I felt like I was turning 32.
Jason, while Kim was sobbing into Natalie's boobs,
you and Chris put on a great show for the birthday girl.
I heard a rumor that's not the weirdest stripping situation
- you've been in. - Oh, no.
Me and Chris have stripped in the past.
When I was in my teens, that's kind of my first like--
- Job? - Job, really.
Yeah, I loved it, honestly.
- You were a teen stripper? - I was a teen stripper.
I was actually studying pre-med at the time.
So that's how I paid for school.
- You were in pre-med? - Sorry. Wow.
So you think he'd be able to learn the menu, right?
Yeah, I mean, you know, it begs some questions.
What's the most awkward lap dance situation you've been in?
She was my fourth grade teacher. Yeah, she was super hot.
- Were you in fourth grade? - No, no, no.
Me and my identical twin brother
did this routine together, Jason and Justin,
but my stage name was Rider Knight.
But anyways, I take my mask off
and I'm like, "What's up, Miss Johnson?"
And she just like absolutely lost it.
She was like, "Do not tell your parents about this."
Oh, my God, that's amazing.
Okay, I wanna talk about something else.
Marcus and Kim's on-again, off-again, wait a second,
they're on-again relationship had their colleagues
looking at them like they were from Mars.
But when Venus fell out of their orbit,
the SUR galaxy became more toxic than ever.
So Kim, when you overheard Marcus say
he was falling out of love with you, that was rough.
But then the two of you got back together 12 hours later.
Yeah, you know, I think at that time
I was in such survival mode, and--
Ugh, this is gonna get me emotional.
At the time, I was kind of holding him up
through the loss of his mom.
And I felt if I were to lose him at that moment,
I would lose it.
And I went to him that night and I was just like,
"Forget what happened today, forget what's happened.
"Are we in this or are we not?"
Of course we knew we were gonna go
into the next day judged, but I don't care.
I care about us, because this is my future.
Marcus, what drove you to say
you were falling out of love with her?
You know, during that time in our relationship,
we were going through it. Like, even before filming started,
it was just like such a tough time.
It sounds like the whole relationship
- has been a bumpy ride. - Not really.
I mean, we're not blind to that.
Like, I know other people think that, like, we think
that we have the best relationship and it's, like,
- not toxic or whatever. - No one thinks that.
Or, like, think that we don't see what you see too.
We see it. We get it. The reason I said that in the moment
was that night at Audrey's party, I saw, like, Kimberly,
like, teaming up with the people that were bashing me.
I was just trying to let you know, like,
"I love you to death, but this behavior right now
"is, like, ruining the love for me a little bit."
Venus, is this the pattern of their relationship?
I mean, it's just always been this way since the beginning.
And truthfully, I feel like they're not compatible.
Like Marcus is more like a 35-year-old frat boy.
And then Kim's like this office executive.
And I just think it's really embarrassing
and they can do better.
- What's your reaction to that? - Also, but by the way,
Venus has not been involved in our relationship
the last six months or so,
so I think to say that we're still embarrassing is...
It doesn't disregard how he felt about the time--
I'm not disregarding. I never disregarded it.
The thing is, Venus's perspective comes like somebody
who doesn't know what it feels like to be in love
and go through turmoil and deal with, you know--
Yes, but y'all's is, like, never-ending.
Maybe right now it's not,
but I don't believe that it won't happen again.
I think to say that they're never gonna be compatible
or not for each other is really hard coming from someone
that's supposed to be their closest friend.
Well, I've seen more than everyone else,
so I feel like my opinion matters more than yours.
For the last six months, I've been really in
Kim's corner and I have watched their relationship really grow
and strengthen, and I do see a foundation
of a lot of love here, and I do think that they could work out.
Where are you in your friendship now?
They've proven to me over and over that
I just need to love them at a distance
and there's only so much that...
- How have I proven that? - Do you trust them?
I don't trust either of them.
Do you think if they were split up,
your relationships with both of them would be better?
I guess so. More with Kim.
Marcus, I feel like I'll feel the same about him
whether they're in a relationship or not.
Truth is, Venus has been in a bad relationship before,
a toxic relationship, and we've talked about this.
Marcus reminds him of his ex. He has projected a lot of that
- situation onto Marcus and I. - That's true.
I've said to him, "I'm not you. It's a very different scenario."
I will say there's multiple truths,
because yes, that is true,
'cause I kind of filter their relationship through my past.
But at the same time, when it's Marcus screaming at Kim
or whatever I'm watching unfold, not only does it trigger me
off of what I experienced in the past,
but watching it unfold in front of me
is just as unsettling as what happened to me.
It was my impression that you had been...
He's also protective of you.
...inactive romantically and sexually for quite a while.
Yeah, this is my eighth year of no sex.
Instead of me finding love,
I kind of insert myself in relationships
- that are around me. - Exactly.
And now I've learned from this to just not do that.
Did you ever have different feelings for Marcus? Honestly.
- In, like, a love way? - Yeah.
Absolutely not. I actually-- If I'm being honest,
I'd rather eat Kim out than touch Marcus.
He's lying. Can I say one more thing?
Can I just say one more thing? I have gone out of my way,
'cause I've seen Venus be uncomfortable
while me and Kimberly are fighting.
Early on in the relationship, I told Venus that day,
called him when he got home, "Brother, I'm so sorry.
"I saw how affected you were by that.
"I will never include you in our relationship again."
Have I included you ever since then?
- Why are you crying? - I'm sorry.
- Why are you crying? - Are you crying?
I think that the conversation
kind of overwhelmed me for a second, but I'm fine.
Well, tell us what you're feeling.
You know, it's just, after everything with Marcus and Kim,
like, it's just been so much for so long,
so just, like, rehashing it
and then talking about my past and stuff,
it just like, just came up and just hit me.
Is there anything you can share about your past relationship?
I mean, when it comes to my dating life personally,
you know, like, when I was in high school,
I got into a relationship with a guy
that, like, laid his hands on me multiple times,
like, punched me in the face
while driving a car full of people,
just straight up alcoholic that just tortured me.
Next, I start kind of having a fling with my boss
who then would, like...
make me have sex with him or he wouldn't pay me
and just all that kind of stuff.
So all of that combined was just so much.
It made me spiral when I was younger
into suicidal thoughts and stuff.
And then after that, I was just like,
"You know what? Fuck all this.
"I'm not talking to men anymore. Like, I'm not doing nothing.
"I'm gonna focus on me. I'm gonna make my dreams come true.
"I'm gonna move to LA, and I'm gonna be
"the star that I know that I am."
So I left all that in the past and then I moved here.
So, no dating life. I'm good right now at least.
It will happen when you're ready.
Yeah.
I just wanna say that it breaks my heart
to see you crying like this,
because I really felt like he's like, "Fuck you."
He doesn't give a shit about me.
It breaks my heart, but it also makes me feel like,
damn, like he really did care about our friendship
the way that I thought he did.
And I know I could be a son of a bitch
and maybe I didn't allow you to have your emotions
and-- and be soft with me.
And I made you be a motherfucker to me.
So I'm sorry for that.
You said he was your best straight friend.
Yeah, for a while.
'Cause when I started here, you know, I became friends
with Kim and then she was interested in Marcus and
I always thought Marcus was a shithead, so I was avoiding him.
And then I started to fall in love
with the shitheadedness and I'm like,
"Okay, now I see a friendship.
"I see what dynamic we have."
Hopefully you can get to a better place.
Honestly, I'm at a point in my life,
I don't have resentment or harboring anything.
It's just where we stand.
Welcome back to the Vanderpump Rules season 12 Reunion.
Shayne, I'm curious to hear about the origins
of your flirtationship with Natalie.
I mean, what happened between the two of you
that made you want her attention so much
to bring another girl to SUR?
Marcus invited me out one night,
like, a month or so prior to filming,
and I saw her there, and she was, like, making out
- with some dude. - It was my birthday.
It was your birthday. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was Millie Bobby Brown's brother?
Yeah, I was just gonna say,
I have videos of them making out.
But she was making out with this dude,
and I was like, "Damn, I don't know what it is,
"but I kind of wanna be making out with her."
But there was no way to get that happening that night,
so the next time I saw her, I was with the boys.
And then I asked you to come out with me.
And then I thought it was a date.
She didn't think it was a date.
I thought we were just meeting up before everyone else.
That seems to be kind of a runner with you,
where you don't think it's a date, but other people do.
Because it happened spontaneously.
Yeah, but what quantifies a date then, exactly?
- Like... - Good question.
Making an official plan, not on the spot.
Like, "Do you wanna meet here in an hour?"
The thing that we did was an official plan.
I say we go for the hug.
It's just been so fun and lighthearted.
I think what it is, really, is, like,
you have a very flirtatious personality.
So I could see maybe how someone just like Jason
would think maybe you did have feelings for him in a sense--
That's why I was trying to say that we were just friends
throughout the whole thing. Like, I was trying to let him
know, like, "Don't read into it."
I got to say, like, she did say that.
It didn't feel like that, but you said that.
And, like, that's all I can take from it.
- And that's not up to me. - You should have told me, like,
"I'm developing feelings for you," so I could have not been
so flirty with you, because I thought I was saying,
"We're friends, we're friends," and you were okay with it.
I just feel like I didn't have to tell you that.
I feel like I was showing you that in a sense, really.
All right, well, I'm sorry I didn't read your mind.
- Yeah, no, it's all good. - Love you.
Love you too.
Well, new hostess Angelica burst onto the scene
by face-planting at the SUR photo shoot.
This is Angelica, and she's gonna be--
Oh, my God!
And it wasn't long before she was planting her nose
in Chris and Jason's business
and planting her flag on Shayne.
Angelica, you seem to fall in love fast.
You know, when I came into the group,
I just got out of a really long relationship.
- Yeah, how long? - It was a year and a half.
And then, so with that,
I used relationships with the guys that I was talking to
as kind of the distraction at the time.
The jiu-jitsu date did not go well for you.
No.
- Fuck you! - Ow!
Was it back pain or the realization
that he was dating someone else?
I didn't feel the back pain until the next day.
- You didn't? - No.
Chris seemed pretty insistent
that you were putting it on about the back pain.
Yeah, that was a little insensitive.
In the moment, it seemed, like--
- Malicious. - You were making it seem like
Jason did it on purpose, which was 100% not the case.
And I never slammed you. I swung you around and I did not mean
- in any way to ever hurt you. - Let's just say we were on
hard mats, and you slammed me on the floor from the very get.
I feel like any guy that knows that they're physically
more dominant, stronger than a woman, is just gonna treat them
- a little more gently. - Honestly, looking back at it,
I'm like, "Damn, I probably could have been
"a little bit more light," but in the moment,
like the laughter and everything,
I just thought it was, like, fun for me,
and I was like, "Oh, she's not exhibiting
"any kind of facial expression of pain."
And I wish I asked more questions.
In my defense, I saw you walking around,
dancing with Shayne like there was
- nothing really going on. - That's fair.
Shayne was very considerate that night.
He made sure I was sitting,
he would constantly check in.
And I feel like that moment where he's asking me,
"Are you okay?"
And I'm like, "No," like... I was on pain meds,
and I was three tequilas deep.
I felt nothing but pure bliss in that moment.
And I did go to the doctor and I did get physical therapy,
and my back was injured, and I still feel it to this day.
I mean, anyone with a back injury knows
that it's temperamental and it's like,
it's not gonna be great sometimes,
but other days you're not gonna feel it for weeks.
It really doesn't matter.
Sometimes the weather will change and I'm like, "Oh, fuck."
Anyone else here think Angelica was exaggerating her back pain?
- I do. - I could say, maybe-- Look--
She wasn't. I had a text from her.
I don't think she was exaggerating--
None of you guys on this side were my support system,
and I was never talking to you about it,
so I don't know why you think you can come at me
with your opinions on whether or not it was real
because I didn't talk about it.
You're crashing out right now! You're crashing out!
Let me speak, I was about to say something nice.
I don't wanna hear it from you
'cause this entire time I've been talking,
you've been giving me faces, shaking your head
- and trying to throw jabs. - Okay, babe.
You're throwing all the jabs on social media,
so I feel like the door's fucking open right now, bitch.
I was gonna say, I don't think
you were exaggerating your back pain whatsoever,
because the day of the photo shoot,
you came in and you were talking to Lisa and you were crying.
I was right there with you.
You were telling me you got your MRI.
I was like, I feel so sorry for you right now.
And then a second later, it's the word diarrhea,
and then all of a sudden it's like, okay,
so why are you using that as an excuse
to bring up something irrelevant in the moment?
It wasn't that that I was using the excuse for it,
but I really appreciate you validating me.
That's what you said.
Jason, you and Angelica hit it off right away.
But when she asked about your last relationship,
why did you lie and make it seem like you were single?
When was your last relationship?
Um...
Probably, like, four to five years ago.
Well, for me, my relationship that I was in
was long distance, actually on a different continent.
And we didn't even speak the same language.
So it's pretty complicated.
When you watched it back,
did you see how it could seem misleading to Angelica?
Not necessarily, because I think that we met
on the first day at this pool party.
And, I mean, you could shake your head all you want,
Angelica, but when it comes down to it,
I was getting to know you.
And for me, I just feel like I was getting to know--
I understand what you're saying.
And I was getting to know you too,
but I led with all my red flags and all my honesty.
And, you know, honesty goes a long way.
And if you were doing something
or had something with someone else,
it doesn't matter where they're at.
If there's some kind of emotional bond
that you have with another woman, even if she's...
Okay, then why didn't you tell me you were fucking your ex?
Wait, I said I lived with my ex.
You didn't say you were still sleeping with him.
That's still an emotional connection.
Angelica wants to be
the only girl a guy is talking to.
I'm not even saying that to be offensive.
The thing is, I'm living with my ex.
We share two separate bedrooms. We don't go to bed at night.
You said you slept in the same bed.
Yeah, that's the safest way.
I'm not gonna go sleeping on the streets.
I'm not gonna go sleep with random people.
You have intercourse with him. You have sex. You said that.
Yes, I was sleeping with my ex.
I'm pretty sure most people that go through a breakup
that still live with their ex
are gonna be sleeping with their ex.
But I'm not trying to form a connection with my ex.
You were forming a connection with whoever person...
- How do you know that? - Because you told me.
You were on top of me, telling me,
"Oh, by the way, it's over. Let me kiss you."
That's not how I did it.
That's how it happened.
Oh, like that?
Yes, and I was like, "Ah, get away from me!"
Did you have a lot of fun today?
I did. That was fun. I'd do it again.
- No! - Okay.
That's how it happened. You literally were, like, pinned
on top of me, and I had nowhere else to go.
By the way, you posted a screenshot
of a text exchange with Jason
where he suggested your jiu-jitsu bruises
were from rough sex.
Was he implying that the two of you
hooked up after your date?
- I don't know what that was. - It was just a joke.
Oh, okay. Have the two of you ever slept together?
- No. - No.
- Okay. - Never.
Jason, why did you text Angelica
asking her to take down the Instagram story?
It's just something that happened so long ago.
I feel like it's out of context.
My initial joke was that we were rolling around
in jiu-jitsu like Mr. and Mrs. Smith.
Rough sex, dot, dot, dot.
You got bruises all over your legs.
Well, you gave me those bruises,
and I was trying to show you that...
It's not like I intentionally meant to do that.
I was trying to show you how hard you were treating me.
I thought what you posted was out of context
and quite rude and very immature.
It was very clear what I was referring to.
You're in a relationship, if I speak about
what happens with you and other people on my social media,
you definitely wouldn't like that.
So just watch what you post.
Because I got ammo, and I'm not that rude.
I'm not gonna step out of line and post things out of context,
'cause we know what we're talking about.
You're in a relationship.
If I speak about what happens with you
and other people on my social media,
you definitely wouldn't like that.
So just watch what you post.
Because I got ammo, and I'm not that rude.
I'm not gonna step out of line and post things out of context,
'cause I'm pretty sure we know what we're talking about.
That's not the only thing, though.
There was things that you said about us as a group
specifically that were also hurtful.
When you called us all boring
and said if there's another season,
- it's because of you. - That wasn't my word,
that was other people saying it to me.
It's a screenshot of a message that you sent
calling us those things and saying that.
Okay, in all fairness, yes, I thought you guys were boring.
Because I came in, and I asked every one of you,
I'm like, "What the hell is going on?
"Tell me what's happening. Why are we fighting?"
None of you guys ever explained it to me.
The only person that even tried to take the time of day
to explain it to me was Demy and even she said,
- "This is too complicated." - I explained everything to you.
You need to be studied in a lab.
The friend group has never been so divided.
A few weeks ago, Kim, she was saying,
"I can't be around Demy," and now they're best friends.
She was screaming in my face I'm a psychotic bitch.
Demy, she's like, "You're annoying.
"I hate the sound of your voice."
Oh, no.
Everyone is just so inconsistent.
You're saying that we never had moments like that,
and I was trying to explain the drama to you.
No, I understand, but for one week,
I was like, "Damn, what's happening?"
Okay, so then you're contradicting yourself.
I'm sorry I'm boring, I'm definitely not.
Let me ask you about something else.
Angelica, you got into an Instagram scuffle with Audrey
after the jiu-jitsu episode aired,
dragging Audrey for calling you a "homie hopper."
Why was that important for you to address online?
Well, I was really offended by the homie hopper incident.
I saw it back, and I saw Audrey call me that,
because she was the one to encourage me.
What do you think of Shayne?
Honestly, I probably need a little cute
little rebound, if anything,
and if Shayne's open to talking to other people, then...
He's open to talking to anything that has legs and a vagina.
So then why are you calling me a homie hopper?
Because I never even got with Jason.
We were just getting to know each other.
The reason I said that was because
I knew I already told the boys that.
I said, "I'm sorry for telling Angelica.
"If you wanna really make Jason mad, go to Shayne."
I didn't think you were gonna be macking in his lap right away.
I thought you were gonna go flirt with him.
That day, I was like, "I wanna kiss Shayne tonight."
I said that during the hangout.
I was literally making a joke of, like,
"Homie hop, don't homie walk."
Sue me, sue me, okay?
I wasn't slut-shaming you.
- It feels like it. - I wasn't slut-shaming you.
What do you think a homie hopper is?
- I was not slut-shaming you. - It's kind of slut-shaming.
Oh, my God. I never slut-shamed you once.
I've never slut-shamed any woman.
When he says I'm a whore,
you were the one that suggested I talk to Shayne.
- You stood there silent. - When did he call you a whore?
- The night at the Abbey. - I did not hear that,
and if I had heard that, I would have said something.
You didn't say anything when he called me a bitch.
I thought you were being a bitch in that moment,
you had already made me mad, so why would I stand up for you?
Can I ask you a question? Why are you so mad today?
Because after the past two episodes have come out,
I have been brutalized on social media.
- I've gotten death threats. - You're not the only one.
- Shut the fuck up. - You're not the only one.
- Shut the fuck up. - Don't talk to me like that.
I can, because fuck you, because you fucking
started it, you bitch.
Next week, the reunion continues.
I've only been with, like, six women this year.
How many in this group?
- Two. - Wait, two?
Marcus and Kim, have you had any pregnancy scares?
Well, babe...
You came to me every single day for weeks, saying,
"You're so fucking funny."
- Because I was building you up. - You're full of shit for that.
On a scale from nothing to White Lotus,
what was it?
I was just not ready for any of it.
How far is too far for you guys?