1 00:00:05,048 --> 00:00:07,572 Here we go. Five, four. 2 00:00:07,790 --> 00:00:09,444 Are we gonna start off light for a little warm-up vibes, 3 00:00:09,661 --> 00:00:11,402 or are we gonna get straight to it? 4 00:00:11,620 --> 00:00:14,449 Angelica, you got into an Instagram scuffle with Audrey. 5 00:00:14,666 --> 00:00:16,494 Chris calls me a whore right in front of you. 6 00:00:16,712 --> 00:00:18,148 You're the one that suggested I talk to Shayne. 7 00:00:18,366 --> 00:00:20,281 - When did I call you a whore? - Sue me. 8 00:00:20,498 --> 00:00:22,457 Can I ask you a question? Why are you so mad today? 9 00:00:22,674 --> 00:00:25,286 Because after the past two episodes have come out, 10 00:00:25,503 --> 00:00:27,070 I have been brutalized on social media. 11 00:00:27,288 --> 00:00:29,551 - You're not the only one. - Shut the fuck up. 12 00:00:29,768 --> 00:00:31,161 - You're not the only one. - Fuck you, because 13 00:00:31,379 --> 00:00:32,771 you fucking started it, you bitch. 14 00:00:37,820 --> 00:00:39,952 When you started raising your voice, I got a boner. 15 00:00:40,127 --> 00:00:43,695 I wa-- Yeah, that was deep inside. 16 00:00:43,913 --> 00:00:46,263 I had to let it out. Sorry. 17 00:00:46,481 --> 00:00:49,527 Coming up on the two-part Vanderpump Rules Reunion... 18 00:00:49,745 --> 00:00:50,659 See you in a bit. 19 00:00:50,876 --> 00:00:52,313 Whoo. 20 00:00:52,530 --> 00:00:54,619 I'm gonna need, like, eight shots of tequila 21 00:00:54,837 --> 00:00:56,578 - to get through this day. - I'm excited about this. 22 00:00:56,795 --> 00:00:59,537 I love all of them right now. Right now it's pure. 23 00:00:59,755 --> 00:01:01,887 Marcus, what percent straight are you? 24 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:03,585 I'd say, like, 80s to the 90s. 25 00:01:05,804 --> 00:01:07,284 Hello! 26 00:01:07,502 --> 00:01:08,851 Why are you so wide awake? 27 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:11,201 It's gonna be a slimy day, I think. 28 00:01:11,419 --> 00:01:12,768 One of the hosts at SUR 29 00:01:12,985 --> 00:01:15,075 shared the OnlyFans video with you. 30 00:01:15,292 --> 00:01:18,730 On a scale from nothing to White Lotus, what was it? 31 00:01:18,948 --> 00:01:21,124 How far is too far for you guys? 32 00:01:21,342 --> 00:01:23,866 You have a baby pact with Shayne? 33 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:26,651 She would like to have my genes. 34 00:01:26,869 --> 00:01:28,610 I'm just like, who's gonna have the nuts 35 00:01:28,827 --> 00:01:30,568 to try to come for your boy? 36 00:01:30,786 --> 00:01:33,267 - I don't trust either of them. - You're so delusional. 37 00:01:33,484 --> 00:01:34,746 The only thing I'm nervous about is if somebody 38 00:01:34,964 --> 00:01:36,574 starts getting me really pissed off. 39 00:01:36,792 --> 00:01:38,489 You're on top of me, telling me, "Oh, by the way, it's over. 40 00:01:38,707 --> 00:01:40,752 - "Let me kiss you." - That's not how I did it. 41 00:01:40,970 --> 00:01:42,624 That's how it happened. 42 00:01:42,841 --> 00:01:44,539 You act like you wanna make peace, but you don't. 43 00:01:44,756 --> 00:01:46,628 Yes, I fucking do. We can go back and forth all day. 44 00:01:46,845 --> 00:01:48,151 - Let's go back and forth. - Okay, perfect. 45 00:01:48,369 --> 00:01:49,674 Why are you so emotional? 46 00:01:50,893 --> 00:01:53,025 Audrey, when the show started airing, 47 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,072 a woman posted that she had been sleeping with Chris 48 00:01:56,246 --> 00:01:58,683 the whole time that you two were seeing each other. 49 00:01:58,901 --> 00:02:01,643 There was details that were, like, believable. 50 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:04,428 Were you sleeping with another woman while you were with her? 51 00:02:10,869 --> 00:02:12,393 Clear the room. 52 00:02:12,610 --> 00:02:16,832 Here we go. Five, four, three, two, one. 53 00:02:17,049 --> 00:02:19,617 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Vanderpump Rules 54 00:02:19,835 --> 00:02:21,837 Season 12 Reunion. 55 00:02:22,054 --> 00:02:23,230 I'm Andy Cohen. 56 00:02:23,447 --> 00:02:26,581 And while the faces at SUR have changed, 57 00:02:26,798 --> 00:02:30,802 drama, dysfunction, and dreams of making it in LA 58 00:02:31,020 --> 00:02:32,587 are still on the menu right next 59 00:02:32,804 --> 00:02:34,937 to the goat cheese balls. 60 00:02:35,155 --> 00:02:36,504 - Hey, Lisa. - Hey. 61 00:02:36,721 --> 00:02:38,158 - How are you? - I'm good. 62 00:02:38,332 --> 00:02:39,507 You're aging in reverse. I gotta tell you. 63 00:02:39,724 --> 00:02:41,247 You too. You too. 64 00:02:41,248 --> 00:02:44,120 All this whole thing, the hair dye, yeah, I noticed. 65 00:02:44,294 --> 00:02:46,644 Can you believe it's been 13 years 66 00:02:46,862 --> 00:02:48,255 since our first reunion at SUR? 67 00:02:48,472 --> 00:02:50,257 - Yes, I can. - You can. Yeah, yeah. 68 00:02:50,474 --> 00:02:53,825 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Vanderpump Rules Reunion. 69 00:02:54,043 --> 00:02:56,045 I'm Andy Cohen with the co-owner 70 00:02:56,219 --> 00:02:58,700 and boss lady from SUR, Lisa Vanderpump. 71 00:02:58,917 --> 00:03:00,919 - Hello, Andy. - Nice to see you. 72 00:03:01,137 --> 00:03:03,618 I feel like I've aged way more than 13 years 73 00:03:03,835 --> 00:03:05,359 with shit that I've been through with this lot. 74 00:03:05,576 --> 00:03:07,143 - Hi, Venus. - Hi, Andy. 75 00:03:07,317 --> 00:03:09,145 What are you manifesting for today? 76 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:10,538 Surviving the drama. 77 00:03:10,755 --> 00:03:12,844 Okay. That's good. 78 00:03:13,062 --> 00:03:14,803 - Hi, Angelica. - Hi, Andy. 79 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:16,152 Quick question, if I need a ride 80 00:03:16,326 --> 00:03:17,588 to LAX later tonight, you got me? 81 00:03:17,806 --> 00:03:19,199 I would pick you up in a heartbeat. 82 00:03:19,373 --> 00:03:20,678 - Yes? - Absolutely. 83 00:03:20,896 --> 00:03:22,158 Wow. Hey, Shayne. 84 00:03:22,332 --> 00:03:23,986 - What's up? - You know, your laugh 85 00:03:24,204 --> 00:03:25,553 has become quite the hot topic. 86 00:03:29,121 --> 00:03:31,820 Was it something that people have always commented on? 87 00:03:32,037 --> 00:03:33,909 Well, some people said I had a hot guy laugh. 88 00:03:34,126 --> 00:03:35,563 Some people said I had a dumb guy laugh. 89 00:03:35,780 --> 00:03:37,304 - Okay. - Which one is it? 90 00:03:37,521 --> 00:03:39,219 It's both. It's a hot dumb guy laugh. 91 00:03:39,436 --> 00:03:41,003 - All right. Very good. - Yeah. 92 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:42,657 - Hey, Marcus. - What's going on, brother? 93 00:03:42,874 --> 00:03:45,094 Bring me up to speed right out of the gate. 94 00:03:45,268 --> 00:03:47,270 Are you and Kim together right now? 95 00:03:47,488 --> 00:03:48,663 We're together, brother. We're together. 96 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,534 - Very good. - I know it's a surprise 97 00:03:50,752 --> 00:03:52,232 to everybody, but yes. 98 00:03:52,449 --> 00:03:53,798 - I don't think so. - Thank you. 99 00:03:54,016 --> 00:03:55,278 - Hey, Kim. Great to see you. - Hi. 100 00:03:55,496 --> 00:03:57,193 - You look beautiful. - Thank you. 101 00:03:57,367 --> 00:03:59,195 Marcus joked that you are the only person 102 00:03:59,369 --> 00:04:01,632 in the world who is 100% straight. 103 00:04:01,850 --> 00:04:03,895 I mean, he just, like, doesn't understand 104 00:04:04,113 --> 00:04:06,376 that I'm, like, not attracted to women in, like, 105 00:04:06,594 --> 00:04:08,335 the West Hollywood world where girls are kissing girls 106 00:04:08,552 --> 00:04:11,163 and having fun, and it's just not my vibe. 107 00:04:11,338 --> 00:04:14,515 She did admit to a girl crush recently that I was like, "Huh." 108 00:04:14,732 --> 00:04:16,386 - Who was it? - "Interesting." 109 00:04:16,604 --> 00:04:19,607 Marcus, that begs the question. What percent straight are you? 110 00:04:19,824 --> 00:04:22,479 I'd say, like, 80s to the 90s. 111 00:04:22,697 --> 00:04:24,481 - All right. - It went down. 112 00:04:24,699 --> 00:04:26,657 - It went down. - Hi, Natalie. 113 00:04:26,875 --> 00:04:29,051 - Hi. - Love your song "Passenger." 114 00:04:29,269 --> 00:04:31,009 - Thank you. Thank you so much. - Congratulations. 115 00:04:31,227 --> 00:04:33,621 I hear you grew up in the same neighborhood 116 00:04:33,838 --> 00:04:35,753 - as Ariana Grande. - That's true. 117 00:04:35,971 --> 00:04:37,929 She reached out for a collab yet? 118 00:04:38,147 --> 00:04:40,280 Oh, I mean, I'm just waiting for the day. 119 00:04:40,454 --> 00:04:42,238 - Yeah. - It's obvious yet. 120 00:04:42,412 --> 00:04:43,631 - Hi, Demy. - Hi. 121 00:04:43,848 --> 00:04:45,633 I hear you have a new man in your life. 122 00:04:45,850 --> 00:04:48,810 I do. His name is Reed. It's been almost a year now. 123 00:04:49,027 --> 00:04:51,291 He was our old GM at SUR. 124 00:04:51,465 --> 00:04:52,727 Well, that tracks. 125 00:04:52,944 --> 00:04:54,642 I keep it in the restaurant, I guess. 126 00:04:54,859 --> 00:04:57,601 You were working here when the former Vanderpump Rules 127 00:04:57,819 --> 00:04:59,081 - was shooting. - Yeah. 128 00:04:59,299 --> 00:05:00,778 I'm gonna see if I got sat. 129 00:05:00,996 --> 00:05:02,302 Then I'll sit. 130 00:05:03,390 --> 00:05:04,695 Half of them were already on their way out, 131 00:05:04,913 --> 00:05:06,871 so I worked with, like, Raquel a lot. 132 00:05:07,089 --> 00:05:09,570 I saw James a lot. He was still DJing. 133 00:05:09,787 --> 00:05:12,486 Sandoval would pop in and bartend. 134 00:05:12,703 --> 00:05:14,705 And you two started on the same day, right? 135 00:05:14,923 --> 00:05:16,403 - Yep. - Three years ago? 136 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:18,622 - May 2023. - I served Kim right before... 137 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:20,320 - Hilarious, yeah. - ...she started working. 138 00:05:20,537 --> 00:05:22,060 Yeah, I did. I, like, came here for dinner, 139 00:05:22,278 --> 00:05:24,062 and I went to the bar, 140 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:27,327 and I asked Natalie for a truffle gnocchi. 141 00:05:27,501 --> 00:05:29,894 And there was hundreds of people just sardined. 142 00:05:30,112 --> 00:05:31,548 I was like, "Are you kidding me?" 143 00:05:31,766 --> 00:05:33,333 I was like, I'm not finding you with this food. 144 00:05:33,550 --> 00:05:35,247 You need to come back here. There's a million people. 145 00:05:35,422 --> 00:05:37,641 Oh, my God, that is exactly not the kind of service you want. 146 00:05:39,382 --> 00:05:40,818 Truffle gnocchi you went for. 147 00:05:41,036 --> 00:05:43,081 - I want what I want. - I love it. 148 00:05:43,299 --> 00:05:44,387 But she got it. She came back, 149 00:05:44,605 --> 00:05:45,867 - and she found it. - I did. 150 00:05:46,084 --> 00:05:47,738 - Hey, Jason. - Yes, sir. 151 00:05:47,956 --> 00:05:50,567 I don't think we've ever seen Lisa demote someone 152 00:05:50,785 --> 00:05:52,439 quite like she demoted you. 153 00:05:52,656 --> 00:05:54,528 How's the crab cake come? 154 00:05:54,745 --> 00:05:56,356 It comes in a cake form. 155 00:05:56,530 --> 00:05:58,793 It has a little bit of cream on the side. It's really good. 156 00:05:59,010 --> 00:06:01,012 Of course crab cake comes in cake form. 157 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:02,840 That's why it's called crab cake. 158 00:06:03,058 --> 00:06:04,712 Are you at the host stand these days, 159 00:06:04,929 --> 00:06:06,757 - or what are you up to? - Honestly, I wanted to be 160 00:06:06,975 --> 00:06:08,542 a well-rounded restaurant worker. 161 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:10,935 So I figured, you know, I can work at the host stand. 162 00:06:11,153 --> 00:06:12,676 I can be a server, bartender, maybe. 163 00:06:12,894 --> 00:06:14,722 Okay, well, I don't think it was your decision, though. 164 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,768 - Hi, Audrey. - Hi. 165 00:06:17,986 --> 00:06:19,509 - You look gorgeous. - Thank you. 166 00:06:19,727 --> 00:06:21,555 Old Hollywood meets skin. 167 00:06:21,772 --> 00:06:23,078 It's giving slutty Marilyn Monroe. 168 00:06:23,295 --> 00:06:25,472 There you go. Wow. 169 00:06:25,689 --> 00:06:27,038 - Hey, Chris. - How you doing? 170 00:06:27,256 --> 00:06:28,518 - How's it going? - Can't complain. 171 00:06:28,736 --> 00:06:32,000 I love that you normalized penis pumps. 172 00:06:32,217 --> 00:06:33,610 Why would you love that? 173 00:06:33,828 --> 00:06:35,612 Because he... 174 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:37,440 - Do you have one? - No, I don't. 175 00:06:37,658 --> 00:06:39,790 As a matter of fact, I needed a little explanation. 176 00:06:40,008 --> 00:06:41,749 Shayne helped me out the other night 177 00:06:41,966 --> 00:06:43,185 at Watch What Happens Live. 178 00:06:43,403 --> 00:06:44,447 You use it to... 179 00:06:44,665 --> 00:06:46,275 I can't use it. It hurts too much. 180 00:06:46,449 --> 00:06:48,712 I just use erectile dysfunction medication. 181 00:06:48,930 --> 00:06:50,279 - Okay, okay. - Yeah. 182 00:06:50,453 --> 00:06:52,412 Is the point to make it bigger or harder? 183 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:54,065 - Harder. - Okay. 184 00:06:54,283 --> 00:06:56,024 I wanted to bring it to light, you know? 185 00:06:56,241 --> 00:06:57,504 Because I feel like everyone's so scared 186 00:06:57,721 --> 00:06:59,462 to talk about their sexuality 187 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,769 and what they do, and sometimes you just... 188 00:07:01,986 --> 00:07:03,466 You gotta just pump it up a little bit. 189 00:07:06,121 --> 00:07:08,558 All right. Well, I wanna get started. 190 00:07:08,776 --> 00:07:10,430 Last fall, Bravo announced 191 00:07:10,647 --> 00:07:12,257 it was rebooting Vanderpump Rules 192 00:07:12,432 --> 00:07:16,523 with an entirely new group of servers and bartenders, 193 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:19,961 sending shock waves through the Bravosphere. 194 00:07:20,178 --> 00:07:22,964 Lisa, when you reboot a beloved series, 195 00:07:23,181 --> 00:07:25,793 there are obviously gonna be comparisons, 196 00:07:26,010 --> 00:07:27,969 and it's impossible to replicate 197 00:07:28,186 --> 00:07:30,928 the Vanderpump Rules of the past. 198 00:07:31,146 --> 00:07:34,105 What do you say to people who compare the two shows? 199 00:07:34,323 --> 00:07:37,761 I mean, of course they're going to. I understand that. 200 00:07:37,979 --> 00:07:39,807 But we're talking about different people, 201 00:07:40,024 --> 00:07:41,635 different problems, different lives. 202 00:07:41,852 --> 00:07:43,898 What I like about this group is they all had 203 00:07:44,115 --> 00:07:45,813 very strong personal stories as well. 204 00:07:46,030 --> 00:07:48,293 So we kind of got in deep pretty quickly. 205 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,774 Marcus, after getting kicked out of the staff meeting, 206 00:07:50,992 --> 00:07:53,298 you said everyone drinks at work, 207 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:54,778 but you happened to get caught. 208 00:07:54,996 --> 00:07:57,172 Who drinks the most on the clock? 209 00:07:57,389 --> 00:08:00,480 Can I be honest? 210 00:08:00,697 --> 00:08:01,655 Yeah. 211 00:08:01,872 --> 00:08:03,221 - Can I be honest? - Yeah. 212 00:08:04,005 --> 00:08:06,137 - Can I be honest? - You can always be honest. 213 00:08:06,355 --> 00:08:08,139 It's a back and forth between me and Demy. 214 00:08:08,749 --> 00:08:11,708 Demy, you are in the management position. 215 00:08:11,926 --> 00:08:14,015 - I know. - You know damn well. 216 00:08:14,232 --> 00:08:16,408 I'm not taking shots or doing sangria. 217 00:08:16,583 --> 00:08:18,585 If I'm doing reports or something 218 00:08:18,802 --> 00:08:21,239 and I'm having a vodka soda when counting the money... 219 00:08:21,457 --> 00:08:23,328 That would be-- that would be okay. 220 00:08:23,503 --> 00:08:27,202 I'm not taking shots or chugging sangria in the back. 221 00:08:27,419 --> 00:08:29,509 If Chris is bartending, I'm definitely drinking the most. 222 00:08:29,726 --> 00:08:33,251 I know! I know that. 223 00:08:33,469 --> 00:08:35,602 I don't even have to ask him. I just give him a look. 224 00:08:35,819 --> 00:08:37,560 Okay, listen, you're going down a path 225 00:08:37,778 --> 00:08:39,954 that you won't come back from. 226 00:08:40,171 --> 00:08:41,390 Do you want me to lie? 227 00:08:41,564 --> 00:08:43,131 You and Demy both have a specific look. 228 00:08:43,348 --> 00:08:44,741 Why are you admitting to this? 229 00:08:44,959 --> 00:08:47,439 - I can't lie to Lisa. - Stop whilst you're ahead. 230 00:08:47,614 --> 00:08:49,180 - You're right. - Yeah. 231 00:08:49,398 --> 00:08:51,748 Natalie, the season kicked off with you returning 232 00:08:51,966 --> 00:08:53,707 from a week-long suspension 233 00:08:53,924 --> 00:08:57,885 for screaming at your ex-boyfriend at this very bar. 234 00:08:58,755 --> 00:09:02,498 Natalie was at the bar, wasted, screaming at Paulo, 235 00:09:02,672 --> 00:09:04,979 begging him to unblock her number. 236 00:09:05,196 --> 00:09:06,502 She has her finger in my face saying, 237 00:09:06,676 --> 00:09:08,373 "You're always against me. 238 00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:10,898 "I can't believe I'm being treated like this. I'm Natalie." 239 00:09:11,115 --> 00:09:12,813 She's screaming at the top of her lungs, 240 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:14,597 so Demy had to kick her out. 241 00:09:14,815 --> 00:09:18,558 That was so not my intention, just for the record. 242 00:09:18,775 --> 00:09:22,518 I had come in with family, and my ex and I 243 00:09:22,692 --> 00:09:25,173 were not really on the best of speaking terms, 244 00:09:25,390 --> 00:09:26,870 but he was so kind to my family 245 00:09:27,088 --> 00:09:28,568 that it triggered something in me. 246 00:09:28,742 --> 00:09:30,787 I was like, "Oh, really? So does that mean we're good?" 247 00:09:31,005 --> 00:09:33,094 - How'd that go? - Obviously not amazing. 248 00:09:33,311 --> 00:09:34,617 - Yes. - Yeah. 249 00:09:34,835 --> 00:09:36,619 Now, Paulo, the ex-boyfriend in question, 250 00:09:36,837 --> 00:09:38,752 was involved in an accident a few months ago. 251 00:09:38,969 --> 00:09:41,842 I'm happy to hear that he's been doing a lot better, yes? 252 00:09:42,059 --> 00:09:43,278 - Yeah. - It's unbelievable 253 00:09:43,495 --> 00:09:45,149 that he actually came through it. 254 00:09:45,367 --> 00:09:47,891 Yeah, we actually had dinner that night, and he said, 255 00:09:48,109 --> 00:09:49,240 "I'll let you know when I get home," 256 00:09:49,458 --> 00:09:50,720 and I never heard from him, 257 00:09:50,938 --> 00:09:52,940 so I woke up in the morning, like 7:00 a.m., 258 00:09:53,157 --> 00:09:54,855 I went over there, and I didn't see his motorcycle, 259 00:09:55,072 --> 00:09:56,944 - and I called Demy. - Yeah, she was freaking out, 260 00:09:57,161 --> 00:09:58,598 and I was like, there has to be an explanation. 261 00:09:58,772 --> 00:09:59,947 Like, he wouldn't just not go home, 262 00:10:00,164 --> 00:10:02,645 and he was in the ICU. 263 00:10:02,863 --> 00:10:05,300 Wow. Interesting that you called Demy. 264 00:10:05,517 --> 00:10:07,476 Paulo's, like, one of my closest friends. 265 00:10:07,650 --> 00:10:09,130 Well, he is your boyfriend as well. 266 00:10:09,347 --> 00:10:10,914 No, I ne-- no, I never considered him a boyfriend. 267 00:10:11,132 --> 00:10:12,699 You definitely had a relationship with him. 268 00:10:12,916 --> 00:10:14,265 - We had a little fling. - Yeah. 269 00:10:14,483 --> 00:10:16,093 I was getting out of a five-year relationship, 270 00:10:16,311 --> 00:10:18,313 and he and I started a little fling, 271 00:10:18,530 --> 00:10:20,968 and he just wanted something more serious 272 00:10:21,185 --> 00:10:22,317 that I couldn't give him. 273 00:10:22,534 --> 00:10:24,493 So he starts talking to the new girl, 274 00:10:24,667 --> 00:10:26,016 and instead of just telling me, 275 00:10:26,234 --> 00:10:28,192 he just kind of, like, does it behind my back. 276 00:10:28,410 --> 00:10:29,629 But I had no idea. 277 00:10:29,846 --> 00:10:31,935 Well, I-- okay, but... 278 00:10:32,153 --> 00:10:33,676 - Demy, you don't believe that. - I know. 279 00:10:33,894 --> 00:10:35,156 I don't believe that at all. 280 00:10:35,373 --> 00:10:37,245 She has literally seen me multiple times, 281 00:10:37,462 --> 00:10:39,334 like, with him when we were fighting. 282 00:10:39,551 --> 00:10:41,684 Like, she was bartending with him, so she would see him. 283 00:10:41,902 --> 00:10:43,773 The night that you were fighting was the night 284 00:10:43,991 --> 00:10:45,122 that I found out about it. 285 00:10:45,340 --> 00:10:46,776 That was the moment I found out 286 00:10:46,994 --> 00:10:48,648 that there was something happening between you guys, 287 00:10:48,822 --> 00:10:50,345 once I had already hooked up with him. 288 00:10:50,562 --> 00:10:52,390 Oh, my fucking God. I'm gonna, like, lose my mind. 289 00:10:52,608 --> 00:10:54,392 It's terrible because it, like, fucks up 290 00:10:54,610 --> 00:10:56,264 - our whole friendship. - It doesn't. 291 00:10:56,481 --> 00:10:58,658 We became friends, honestly, he's what brought us close. 292 00:10:58,875 --> 00:11:00,398 Like, I feel like there's this whole narrative 293 00:11:00,616 --> 00:11:02,052 out there that, like, me and Natalie 294 00:11:02,270 --> 00:11:04,664 are fighting over a guy, and that never happened. 295 00:11:04,881 --> 00:11:07,667 So, Kim, knowing this situation was happening, 296 00:11:07,841 --> 00:11:09,581 can you explain why her friendship 297 00:11:09,756 --> 00:11:11,845 with Marcus was triggering to you? 298 00:11:12,062 --> 00:11:15,196 It wasn't that her friendship was triggering. 299 00:11:15,413 --> 00:11:16,676 All of his friends are women. 300 00:11:16,893 --> 00:11:18,242 All of his friends are-- a lot of his friends 301 00:11:18,460 --> 00:11:19,548 are women who he's hooked up with. 302 00:11:19,722 --> 00:11:21,942 Like, I have navigated friendships 303 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:23,813 with women who have had their tongue down his throat. 304 00:11:24,031 --> 00:11:27,556 Natalie is someone who gets close to someone really fast. 305 00:11:27,730 --> 00:11:29,601 As soon as she, like, starts to chat with someone, 306 00:11:29,776 --> 00:11:32,604 it's phone call, phone call, FaceTime, text messages. 307 00:11:32,779 --> 00:11:34,737 But once I heard that she made a phone call to him, 308 00:11:34,955 --> 00:11:36,347 essentially bashing Demy and I, 309 00:11:36,565 --> 00:11:38,175 - was when I said... - Wait. What? 310 00:11:38,393 --> 00:11:39,655 I wanna explain the phone call, 311 00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:41,178 but I wasn't expecting you to say that 312 00:11:41,396 --> 00:11:42,397 it was bashing you and Demy. 313 00:11:42,614 --> 00:11:43,833 The thing that set it all off 314 00:11:44,051 --> 00:11:45,922 was before filming, Natalie got suspended, 315 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:49,970 and Marcus told me that Natalie called him essentially saying 316 00:11:50,187 --> 00:11:51,667 how Demy and I were not good friends... 317 00:11:51,841 --> 00:11:53,408 - Of course he said that. - That's not what I said. 318 00:11:53,625 --> 00:11:55,279 - I said that you-- - So then what was it? 319 00:11:55,497 --> 00:11:56,716 You were basically saying, you know, 320 00:11:56,933 --> 00:11:58,500 I'm pissed off last night. 321 00:11:58,718 --> 00:12:00,371 Like, all my friends kicked me out. 322 00:12:00,589 --> 00:12:02,069 - I wasn't pissed. I was hurt. - Hurt, sure. 323 00:12:02,286 --> 00:12:04,071 I was hysterically crying. I was upset. 324 00:12:04,288 --> 00:12:06,987 She was thankful that I had her back in the moment. 325 00:12:07,204 --> 00:12:08,771 And as soon as I heard that, I texted Natalie, 326 00:12:08,989 --> 00:12:10,730 in a non-attacking way, I said, "I love you, 327 00:12:10,947 --> 00:12:12,819 "I hope you don't feel attacked when I'm saying this, 328 00:12:13,036 --> 00:12:14,472 "but I'm starting to get uncomfortable 329 00:12:14,690 --> 00:12:16,126 "with the way that you're navigating 330 00:12:16,344 --> 00:12:17,737 "your friendship with Marcus, I don't appreciate 331 00:12:17,911 --> 00:12:19,347 "that you're calling him, blah, blah, blah." 332 00:12:19,564 --> 00:12:21,349 Her response to me, I think, should've been like, 333 00:12:21,566 --> 00:12:24,004 "I'm so sorry you feel that way, that's not how you should feel." 334 00:12:24,221 --> 00:12:26,223 But her response was, "So you're saying I can't talk to him? 335 00:12:26,441 --> 00:12:28,138 "Why can Demy talk to him and call him and I can't?" 336 00:12:28,356 --> 00:12:30,706 Red flag. Don't challenge me when I'm giving you 337 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,316 a boundary as a friend. 338 00:12:32,534 --> 00:12:34,014 I don't call him to be like, "Hey, how's your day?" 339 00:12:34,231 --> 00:12:35,755 I called him to thank him for being there for me, 340 00:12:35,972 --> 00:12:37,626 and I said there was a resolution to the problem. 341 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,019 Okay, I never have had someone stand up 342 00:12:39,236 --> 00:12:40,455 and yell in my face and scream 343 00:12:40,672 --> 00:12:42,109 like the way that you did at the Belmont, 344 00:12:42,326 --> 00:12:43,850 and that's why I decided to take space from you. 345 00:12:44,067 --> 00:12:45,808 You literally stood up, towered over me, hands in face. 346 00:12:46,026 --> 00:12:47,767 You have done that multiple times to both of us. 347 00:12:47,941 --> 00:12:50,552 Because you were saying that I was being inappropriate 348 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,206 with your boyfriend and I was pissed! 349 00:12:52,423 --> 00:12:53,903 - And that's fine-- - I didn't deserve to be accused 350 00:12:54,121 --> 00:12:55,775 of being not a girl's girl. 351 00:12:55,949 --> 00:12:57,646 You called me not a girl's girl. None of that's fucking true. 352 00:12:57,820 --> 00:12:59,648 - You are not a girl's girl. - Yes, I fucking am! 353 00:12:59,822 --> 00:13:01,389 Okay, let's talk about all the press that you've done 354 00:13:01,606 --> 00:13:03,043 that you've thrown us under the bus and all the lies 355 00:13:03,260 --> 00:13:04,740 - that you've told. - Because you lied 356 00:13:04,914 --> 00:13:06,437 - about me multiple times. - But you deserved it. 357 00:13:06,655 --> 00:13:08,091 - You were lying. - Not standing up for yourself. 358 00:13:08,309 --> 00:13:09,571 You said that I've been a bully. 359 00:13:09,789 --> 00:13:11,268 I'm not gonna tell her. She already knows. 360 00:13:11,486 --> 00:13:13,314 Tell me when I've been a bully to you. 361 00:13:13,531 --> 00:13:15,185 You were mean the whole season, Kim. 362 00:13:15,403 --> 00:13:16,752 You told me that I'm pathetic, I'm stupid. 363 00:13:16,926 --> 00:13:18,406 No, we're not talking about that. 364 00:13:18,623 --> 00:13:20,060 We're talking about you went on Lala's podcast. 365 00:13:20,277 --> 00:13:21,931 Because the general feeling that I-- 366 00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:23,759 - Let me speak. - I can't do this. 367 00:13:23,933 --> 00:13:25,892 Right after New York, you went on Lala's podcast. 368 00:13:26,109 --> 00:13:27,589 You said, "I don't know why she thinks I'm still 369 00:13:27,807 --> 00:13:29,417 "obsessed with her man and I want her man." 370 00:13:29,634 --> 00:13:30,940 Yeah, but it's, like, crazy because these girls 371 00:13:31,158 --> 00:13:33,682 still believe what they made up in their minds. 372 00:13:33,856 --> 00:13:35,553 It's like, you guys see the text now. 373 00:13:35,771 --> 00:13:38,121 It's like, it's still difficult for them to accept 374 00:13:38,339 --> 00:13:39,819 that I don't want their man. 375 00:13:40,036 --> 00:13:41,995 She's a bully, she's insecure about her relationship. 376 00:13:42,212 --> 00:13:43,735 - Tell me what's-- - I do think that 377 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:45,259 you're insecure about your relationship. 378 00:13:45,476 --> 00:13:48,218 When I saw the first episode, I was very hurt. 379 00:13:48,436 --> 00:13:50,612 Natalie was sending Marcus good morning texts, 380 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:52,788 which is not appropriate to send anyone you're not dating. 381 00:13:52,962 --> 00:13:55,747 Then she's sending him pictures of heels, a guy's fantasy. 382 00:13:55,922 --> 00:13:58,881 They're called fuck-me heels for a reason. I mean, like, really? 383 00:13:59,099 --> 00:14:00,535 Do you think that I want to keep feeling 384 00:14:00,752 --> 00:14:02,058 - uncomfortable around you? - Why are you? 385 00:14:02,276 --> 00:14:03,625 Because I would still come to work 386 00:14:03,843 --> 00:14:05,235 - and feel very uncomfortable. - Why? 387 00:14:05,453 --> 00:14:06,802 And I told you this, you guys are always good, 388 00:14:06,976 --> 00:14:09,283 but I come in here and I get avoided, ignored. 389 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:11,154 - No, you don't. - Yes, I do. 390 00:14:11,372 --> 00:14:13,809 When you do shady shit, like go on podcasts and lie, 391 00:14:13,983 --> 00:14:15,463 - yes, of course. - I didn't lie. 392 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:17,291 - Yes, you did. - You said multiple lies 393 00:14:17,508 --> 00:14:19,380 about me. We can go back and forth all day. 394 00:14:19,597 --> 00:14:20,729 - We can. - Okay, perfect. 395 00:14:20,903 --> 00:14:22,339 No, we can't. 396 00:14:22,557 --> 00:14:23,993 You love to talk about character assassination. 397 00:14:24,211 --> 00:14:25,473 - That's all that you do. - I'm gonna move on. 398 00:14:25,690 --> 00:14:27,040 - No, it's not. - Okay, all right. 399 00:14:28,737 --> 00:14:30,391 All I did was wanna make peace with you! 400 00:14:30,608 --> 00:14:32,436 You act like you wanna make peace, but you don't. 401 00:14:32,654 --> 00:14:35,439 - Yes, I fucking do. - Okay, take a breath. 402 00:14:38,007 --> 00:14:39,574 Coming up next... 403 00:14:39,791 --> 00:14:41,358 I was shown a Reddit thread 404 00:14:41,576 --> 00:14:43,143 and it was people saying, like, 405 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,058 "I was talking to him the whole time 406 00:14:45,275 --> 00:14:48,104 "when we was on the show, he's still in my DM." 407 00:14:58,419 --> 00:15:02,249 Welcome back to the Vanderpump Rules Season 12 Reunion. 408 00:15:02,466 --> 00:15:04,294 For most of the season, Chris and Audrey 409 00:15:04,512 --> 00:15:07,210 seemed like the healthiest couple in the group. 410 00:15:07,428 --> 00:15:10,953 But as these two inched towards being exclusive, 411 00:15:11,171 --> 00:15:15,915 Chris was not quite ready for Audrey to be his only fan. 412 00:15:16,132 --> 00:15:17,917 Well done, Andy. 413 00:15:18,091 --> 00:15:19,701 - Andy! - Well done. 414 00:15:20,832 --> 00:15:22,399 It seemed like there were sparks 415 00:15:22,617 --> 00:15:24,053 from the beginning with you and Chris. 416 00:15:24,271 --> 00:15:26,447 Aside from bonding over ice cream, 417 00:15:26,664 --> 00:15:28,057 what did you dig about him? 418 00:15:28,275 --> 00:15:30,494 Mmm, the first conversation we actually had, 419 00:15:30,712 --> 00:15:32,235 I asked him, I was like, "So what's your type?" 420 00:15:32,453 --> 00:15:35,717 And he was like... "Dark hair, tall." 421 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:38,676 I was like, "Oh, great. So I'm screwed." I was like, "Okay." 422 00:15:38,894 --> 00:15:41,941 I was like, "What about, like, personality?" 423 00:15:42,115 --> 00:15:44,073 And he was like, "Oh, yeah, I like personality too." 424 00:15:44,291 --> 00:15:45,901 I was like, "Okay, great. We got some work to do." 425 00:15:46,075 --> 00:15:47,468 I didn't just say that. 426 00:15:47,685 --> 00:15:48,991 I think I looked at it like a challenge. 427 00:15:49,209 --> 00:15:50,732 What first drew you to Audrey? 428 00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:52,255 I think it was just our... I don't know. 429 00:15:52,473 --> 00:15:53,865 We definitely had like chemistry. 430 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,606 I just feel like it was very easy to talk to. 431 00:15:55,824 --> 00:15:57,913 I don't know, like, for 22, I would say 432 00:15:58,087 --> 00:16:00,960 she is much more mature for her age than most 22-year-olds. 433 00:16:01,177 --> 00:16:04,006 - You are 31? - I'm 31 years old. 434 00:16:04,224 --> 00:16:05,834 Okay. Do you ever date older women? 435 00:16:06,008 --> 00:16:07,836 I used to date a lot of older women back in the day. 436 00:16:08,010 --> 00:16:10,317 Yeah, I don't know why I have a weird thing for older women. 437 00:16:10,534 --> 00:16:11,579 She knows that. 438 00:16:11,796 --> 00:16:13,059 What's up, Mama Pump? 439 00:16:13,276 --> 00:16:14,712 You're looking hot today in the purple. 440 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:16,062 That's not gonna fly with me. 441 00:16:16,279 --> 00:16:18,499 Okay. 442 00:16:18,716 --> 00:16:21,023 Do not drag me into this equation. 443 00:16:21,241 --> 00:16:23,156 Hey, Ken better look out. I'm not gonna lie. 444 00:16:23,373 --> 00:16:25,027 You should be looking out. 445 00:16:25,245 --> 00:16:26,855 So you used to have a thing for older women? 446 00:16:27,029 --> 00:16:28,726 Yeah, I mean, when I was, like, in my teens, you know. 447 00:16:28,944 --> 00:16:31,033 - When you were in your teens? - Yeah. 448 00:16:31,251 --> 00:16:33,166 How did that-- Okay, well, then let's dig in there. 449 00:16:33,383 --> 00:16:35,733 - So you were in your teens. - I had just, like, a kink. 450 00:16:35,951 --> 00:16:37,518 I was just like, "Oh, older girls are just more 451 00:16:37,735 --> 00:16:39,302 "experienced in bed, maybe they can teach me a few things." 452 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,043 - And did they? - Oh, my God. 453 00:16:41,261 --> 00:16:42,740 - For sure. Yes, absolutely. - What's wrong with you? 454 00:16:42,958 --> 00:16:44,829 They didn't play games. They got right to the point. 455 00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:47,049 - What's the point? - Fucking, Lisa. Fucking. 456 00:16:47,267 --> 00:16:48,964 - Oh, my God. - I was like 17, 18. 457 00:16:49,138 --> 00:16:51,488 No, being with an older person, you don't have to wonder. 458 00:16:51,706 --> 00:16:54,143 It's more direct. The communication is there. 459 00:16:54,361 --> 00:16:55,884 Did you ever date one of them seriously, though? 460 00:16:56,058 --> 00:16:58,147 - Mmm, no. - Easy now. "One of them." 461 00:16:58,365 --> 00:16:59,801 - Easy. - Not really. 462 00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:01,237 Audrey, when you found out 463 00:17:01,455 --> 00:17:04,153 Chris had been on two reality shows before, 464 00:17:04,371 --> 00:17:07,026 - your reaction was what? - I was surprised. I genuinely 465 00:17:07,243 --> 00:17:10,203 didn't know until the day that I took him horseback riding. 466 00:17:10,420 --> 00:17:12,553 - I was like, "You didn't know?" - And then I did my research. 467 00:17:12,770 --> 00:17:14,946 And when you went on those shows, 468 00:17:15,121 --> 00:17:17,210 were you doing it to make a name for yourself? 469 00:17:17,427 --> 00:17:18,646 Were you doing it to find love? 470 00:17:18,863 --> 00:17:20,909 - It was not to find love. - Okay. 471 00:17:21,083 --> 00:17:24,869 To-- yes, to get on the show, I did say that. 472 00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:26,567 You know, that's what a dating show is. 473 00:17:26,784 --> 00:17:28,047 - Yes. - You know. 474 00:17:29,396 --> 00:17:31,615 But no, I did it to get a name for myself. 475 00:17:31,833 --> 00:17:33,226 - Yeah. - Because I've always been 476 00:17:33,443 --> 00:17:35,184 kind of dancing around different career paths. 477 00:17:35,402 --> 00:17:37,317 I was always very unsure of what I wanted to do with my life. 478 00:17:37,534 --> 00:17:40,581 And so this was kind of like an invitation to start a new life. 479 00:17:40,798 --> 00:17:43,323 Audrey, we found out during the drive to Paso Robles 480 00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:45,760 that you and Chris had recently slept together 481 00:17:45,977 --> 00:17:47,153 - for the first time. - Mm-hmm. 482 00:17:47,370 --> 00:17:50,330 How did you manage to break a bed frame? 483 00:17:50,547 --> 00:17:53,594 Girl, what happened to your bed? 484 00:17:53,811 --> 00:17:56,249 Isn't this brand new? 485 00:17:56,466 --> 00:17:57,946 Okay, it was from Ikea, 486 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:00,209 so I don't know if it was user error or Ikea error. 487 00:18:00,427 --> 00:18:03,778 I built it myself, so it was probably user error. 488 00:18:03,995 --> 00:18:06,041 That's not what he wants to hear. 489 00:18:06,215 --> 00:18:08,957 Oh, yeah. It was a good time. 490 00:18:09,131 --> 00:18:11,264 Did you keep going after it broke or did you stop? 491 00:18:11,481 --> 00:18:13,135 - Good question. - I think we did. 492 00:18:13,353 --> 00:18:15,442 - We did. - And then we slept on it. 493 00:18:15,659 --> 00:18:16,704 And then we slept. Yeah. 494 00:18:16,921 --> 00:18:18,488 - Then we were tired. - Nice. 495 00:18:18,706 --> 00:18:20,838 Hey, Jason, Chris and Audrey had been seeing each other 496 00:18:21,056 --> 00:18:22,492 for about five weeks at that point, 497 00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:24,538 which you said was long for Chris. 498 00:18:24,755 --> 00:18:26,453 He's an Aries. The dude's like fire, you know? 499 00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:27,976 He's just bouncing around. 500 00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:30,065 So honestly, there was something really special 501 00:18:30,239 --> 00:18:32,067 - in Audrey to hold him down. - Yeah. 502 00:18:32,241 --> 00:18:34,113 And I got to say, I see it too. 503 00:18:34,330 --> 00:18:35,897 Like, beautiful as she is on the outside 504 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,639 she is on the inside, and she's a very mature girl. 505 00:18:38,856 --> 00:18:40,815 And that's what Chris, like, I think, found 506 00:18:41,032 --> 00:18:42,730 - very attractive about her. - Yeah. 507 00:18:42,947 --> 00:18:45,907 Do you usually wait that long before sleeping with a woman? 508 00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:47,648 - Not typically. - Or was the fact 509 00:18:47,865 --> 00:18:49,215 that you were on the show, 510 00:18:49,432 --> 00:18:52,653 did you feel like you had to measure yourself? 511 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:54,394 Well, so what I've really come to realize 512 00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:55,917 in the past few years, 513 00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:57,614 just growing the fuck up because I'm 31 now. 514 00:18:57,832 --> 00:18:59,616 And I've had a lot of experience. 515 00:18:59,834 --> 00:19:01,270 I've talked to a whole bunch of girls. 516 00:19:01,488 --> 00:19:03,098 I've hooked up with a decent amount of girls. 517 00:19:03,272 --> 00:19:05,144 And I've really come to the realization 518 00:19:05,361 --> 00:19:08,190 that the faster we hook up, the quicker it ends. 519 00:19:08,408 --> 00:19:10,584 - True. - If it's a one-night stand, 520 00:19:10,801 --> 00:19:12,151 it's usually nothing more than that. 521 00:19:12,368 --> 00:19:14,022 - It's just one night. - If it's two days, 522 00:19:14,196 --> 00:19:15,893 it usually lasts maybe two months. 523 00:19:16,111 --> 00:19:18,113 But there was plenty, probably multiple times 524 00:19:18,287 --> 00:19:20,289 that Audrey-- we could have hooked up. 525 00:19:20,507 --> 00:19:22,248 - You know? - And what about you? 526 00:19:22,465 --> 00:19:24,728 - Do you typically wait also? - Yeah. 527 00:19:24,946 --> 00:19:26,295 It's either like night of, never see him again. 528 00:19:26,513 --> 00:19:27,731 - Or it's, like, weeks. - Right. 529 00:19:27,949 --> 00:19:29,559 If I really genuinely enjoy the person 530 00:19:29,777 --> 00:19:32,345 and want a-- can see a future with them, I wait. 531 00:19:32,562 --> 00:19:34,782 And did you like it that he was waiting? 532 00:19:34,999 --> 00:19:36,175 - Of course. That's what-- - Yeah. 533 00:19:36,392 --> 00:19:37,654 I loved the pace we were going at. 534 00:19:37,872 --> 00:19:40,179 So everything seemed to be going swimmingly 535 00:19:40,396 --> 00:19:43,356 until Audrey heard a conversation with your cousin 536 00:19:43,573 --> 00:19:45,358 - about you going to Bali... - Right. 537 00:19:45,575 --> 00:19:48,012 ...to "fuck bitches." 538 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:50,624 - Mad bitches. Mad bitches. - Mad bitches. 539 00:19:50,841 --> 00:19:54,584 So Audrey, was that your first red flag from Chris? 540 00:19:54,802 --> 00:19:57,587 It was definitely, like, the second. 541 00:19:57,805 --> 00:19:58,980 It was definitely, like, the second. 542 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:02,113 I will give Chris his flowers, though. 543 00:20:02,288 --> 00:20:04,028 Not tulips. But in the moment-- 544 00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:05,726 - That was a good one. - Sorry. 545 00:20:05,943 --> 00:20:07,815 - That was a good one. - That was good. 546 00:20:08,032 --> 00:20:11,210 But in the moment, he didn't respond 547 00:20:11,384 --> 00:20:14,952 to Jason's brother in a way of like, "Oh, yeah, totally, bro. 548 00:20:15,170 --> 00:20:16,302 "We're gonna get all of 'em." 549 00:20:16,519 --> 00:20:17,999 He was like, "Dude, shut the fuck up." 550 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:19,783 That's why I didn't get mad right then and be like, 551 00:20:20,001 --> 00:20:21,655 "What the fuck, why are you talking to him like that?" 552 00:20:21,872 --> 00:20:24,005 It just made me start to spiral in here 553 00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:26,747 because I realized I really did like him. 554 00:20:26,964 --> 00:20:29,010 And I was like, "Wait a second. 555 00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:30,316 "Is this-- should I have this conversation? 556 00:20:30,533 --> 00:20:31,665 "'Cause I don't want that to happen. 557 00:20:31,882 --> 00:20:33,014 "I don't want him to go to Bali 558 00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:34,537 "and fuck bitches. Like, mad bitches. 559 00:20:34,755 --> 00:20:36,931 "Like, I really-- I really like this guy." 560 00:20:37,148 --> 00:20:41,283 It was that, and then it was also hearing conversations 561 00:20:41,501 --> 00:20:45,200 about comparing this show to the other shows. 562 00:20:45,374 --> 00:20:47,898 When it comes down to, like, a real relationship 563 00:20:48,116 --> 00:20:49,596 and other dating shows that we do, 564 00:20:49,813 --> 00:20:50,988 it's not, like, truly us. 565 00:20:51,206 --> 00:20:52,512 It's just, like, for entertainment. 566 00:20:52,729 --> 00:20:54,296 I mean, we just----ed around a lot 567 00:20:54,514 --> 00:20:56,255 - where we joke around. - Yeah, we're playful. 568 00:20:56,429 --> 00:20:59,736 Which really set me back because like he just said, 569 00:20:59,954 --> 00:21:01,999 the other two shows, he wasn't going on to look for love. 570 00:21:02,217 --> 00:21:03,653 He was going on as an opportunity. 571 00:21:03,871 --> 00:21:06,439 That made me think, "Is this even real?" 572 00:21:06,656 --> 00:21:07,918 And I don't blame you for that at all. 573 00:21:08,136 --> 00:21:09,790 Like, I would understand that so much. 574 00:21:10,007 --> 00:21:12,227 So Chris, were you being your authentic self 575 00:21:12,401 --> 00:21:13,576 on this show, would you say? 576 00:21:13,794 --> 00:21:15,622 Yeah, so the main point of it was 577 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:18,233 these were dating shows and that's really it. 578 00:21:18,407 --> 00:21:19,974 There is a prize at the end of this. 579 00:21:20,191 --> 00:21:22,759 There's a lot of people that go on reality dating shows 580 00:21:22,977 --> 00:21:25,414 and end up in-- in fake relationships 581 00:21:25,632 --> 00:21:26,937 and they want to get clout from it 582 00:21:27,155 --> 00:21:28,374 and they want to win the prize. 583 00:21:28,591 --> 00:21:31,507 - This is not a dating show. - Okay. 584 00:21:31,725 --> 00:21:35,294 Audrey, you told producers that when the show started airing, 585 00:21:35,468 --> 00:21:38,340 a woman posted that she had been sleeping with Chris 586 00:21:38,558 --> 00:21:41,430 the whole time that you two were seeing each other. 587 00:21:41,648 --> 00:21:44,433 So I was shown a Reddit thread. I'm not even on Reddit. 588 00:21:44,651 --> 00:21:48,002 I was shown this, and I was very confused 589 00:21:48,219 --> 00:21:50,787 because it was-- there was certain details 590 00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:52,746 that were, like, believable. 591 00:21:52,963 --> 00:21:55,488 People saying, like, "I was talking to him 592 00:21:55,705 --> 00:21:57,098 "the whole time when we was on the show. 593 00:21:57,316 --> 00:21:59,535 "He's still in my DMs," all these things. 594 00:21:59,753 --> 00:22:01,494 - And I really, really-- - But talking to someone 595 00:22:01,711 --> 00:22:03,409 is different than actually sleeping with someone. 596 00:22:03,626 --> 00:22:05,802 - You guys saw the Reddit. - It was sent to me by a friend. 597 00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:07,978 I saw it once and I was like, "I don't wanna see this." 598 00:22:08,196 --> 00:22:09,850 Yeah, and when it was sent to me, 599 00:22:10,067 --> 00:22:13,506 I felt like as her friend, I wanted to let her know. 600 00:22:13,723 --> 00:22:17,684 And basically what it had said was they were seeing you 601 00:22:17,901 --> 00:22:20,426 and you were telling this person that the relationship 602 00:22:20,643 --> 00:22:22,950 between you and the person on the show was fake. 603 00:22:31,393 --> 00:22:32,829 Talking to someone 604 00:22:33,047 --> 00:22:35,136 is different than actually sleeping with someone. 605 00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:37,530 - You guys saw the Reddit. - It was sent to me by a friend. 606 00:22:37,747 --> 00:22:39,836 I saw it once and I was like, "I don't wanna see this." 607 00:22:40,054 --> 00:22:43,362 And basically what it had said was they were seeing you 608 00:22:43,579 --> 00:22:46,234 and you were telling this person that the relationship 609 00:22:46,408 --> 00:22:48,584 between you and the person on the show was fake. 610 00:22:48,802 --> 00:22:50,543 I saw your relationship. I know it wasn't fake. 611 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,327 - Right. Right. - And I know that too, 612 00:22:52,501 --> 00:22:55,286 and unless men are vile, evil monsters, 613 00:22:55,461 --> 00:22:57,114 - and that was all fake... - They are. 614 00:22:57,332 --> 00:23:01,118 ...I don't believe that it was disingenuine. 615 00:23:01,336 --> 00:23:02,946 And I mean that from the bottom of my heart. 616 00:23:03,164 --> 00:23:05,949 - So Chris, was it real? - It 100% was real. 617 00:23:06,167 --> 00:23:08,299 What's your response to this Reddit thread? 618 00:23:08,474 --> 00:23:10,301 I mean, people talk shit. 619 00:23:12,173 --> 00:23:14,523 There are rumors that my last dating show, 620 00:23:14,741 --> 00:23:16,046 I was in a fake relationship. 621 00:23:16,264 --> 00:23:18,179 So, I mean, Reddit is filled 622 00:23:18,397 --> 00:23:20,007 with a whole bunch of people that are just gonna hate 623 00:23:20,224 --> 00:23:21,922 and talk their shit and try to stir the pot. 624 00:23:22,139 --> 00:23:23,750 Were you sleeping with another woman 625 00:23:23,967 --> 00:23:26,492 - while you were with her? - I definitely was-- 1,000% no. 626 00:23:27,623 --> 00:23:31,148 - So, riddle me this, Chris. - Mm-hmm. 627 00:23:31,366 --> 00:23:34,587 You seemed shocked when Audrey 628 00:23:34,804 --> 00:23:36,284 put the brakes on your relationship 629 00:23:36,458 --> 00:23:38,112 - at Universal Studios. - Mm-hmm. Yeah. 630 00:23:38,329 --> 00:23:40,767 The next level of, like, a romantic connection 631 00:23:40,984 --> 00:23:42,986 was that I was, like, kind of missing. 632 00:23:43,204 --> 00:23:45,424 And so, I think I'm just at a place 633 00:23:45,598 --> 00:23:47,730 where I need to take a little bit of a step back. 634 00:23:48,731 --> 00:23:50,777 Then, a few days later, 635 00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:53,780 you decide you're gonna go all in with her. 636 00:23:53,997 --> 00:23:55,999 You say, "I wanna commit to you." 637 00:23:56,217 --> 00:23:59,916 I want you, Audrey. Like, I want us. 638 00:24:00,134 --> 00:24:03,311 - I----ing like you a lot. - I know. 639 00:24:03,485 --> 00:24:05,618 And, like, I want to prove that. 640 00:24:06,662 --> 00:24:10,840 And then you say to Jason, "I'm out." 641 00:24:11,058 --> 00:24:13,713 I'm gonna be going to Europe, Jersey, and probably Bali. 642 00:24:13,930 --> 00:24:16,150 So I'm like, well, I'm not gonna see her, 643 00:24:16,367 --> 00:24:18,979 so I'm like, I don't think we should take that big step yet. 644 00:24:19,196 --> 00:24:20,633 I know that's so inconsistent 645 00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:22,983 because I was one day about it, the next day not. 646 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,159 I'm not gonna blame being drunk at all. 647 00:24:25,376 --> 00:24:28,423 Like, I wanted to continue doing what we were doing, 648 00:24:28,597 --> 00:24:31,470 but then I put, like, the brakes on 649 00:24:31,644 --> 00:24:33,080 and I was like, let me just be real 650 00:24:33,297 --> 00:24:34,864 about how the future is looking. 651 00:24:35,082 --> 00:24:37,040 I don't want to promise her something. 652 00:24:37,258 --> 00:24:38,651 I don't wanna tell her I'm ready for something, 653 00:24:38,868 --> 00:24:40,304 even though I already did. 654 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:42,698 I feel like I either say it now that I'm not ready 655 00:24:42,916 --> 00:24:44,961 or I keep bullshitting 656 00:24:45,179 --> 00:24:47,442 and I keep lying to myself, lying to you. 657 00:24:47,616 --> 00:24:50,837 - It was completely unfair. - 100%. It was selfish. 658 00:24:51,054 --> 00:24:52,969 - I agree. - It was unfair. It was selfish. 659 00:24:53,187 --> 00:24:55,363 I don't think the relationship was fake, but I think 660 00:24:55,537 --> 00:24:57,626 that you have a problem with making up your mind. 661 00:24:57,844 --> 00:25:00,499 And that's not to say that I hate you for that. 662 00:25:00,716 --> 00:25:03,153 It's just to say that I got to a point 663 00:25:03,371 --> 00:25:04,807 where after the second time, 664 00:25:05,025 --> 00:25:07,549 I don't let people do things to me a second time, 665 00:25:07,767 --> 00:25:09,899 mmm, let alone a third time. 666 00:25:10,117 --> 00:25:12,598 I just think that I would've loved to hear 667 00:25:12,815 --> 00:25:14,991 what you had to say at the bar at Universal. 668 00:25:15,209 --> 00:25:16,863 I kind of wanted you to, like, give that back to me. 669 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,734 It seems so complicated though, doesn't it? 670 00:25:18,952 --> 00:25:20,519 - Very. - Is it? I mean, 671 00:25:20,693 --> 00:25:21,998 why didn't you guys just say, 672 00:25:22,216 --> 00:25:24,174 "I really like you, I like you too. 673 00:25:24,392 --> 00:25:26,046 "I'm going away. Why don't you come with me? 674 00:25:26,263 --> 00:25:28,091 - "Why don't I go with you?" - Exactly. 675 00:25:28,309 --> 00:25:30,006 It all comes down to me and my commitment issues. 676 00:25:30,224 --> 00:25:32,487 - That's what it comes down to. - Okay. 677 00:25:32,661 --> 00:25:35,534 And where I'm at in my life, you see there's tons of things. 678 00:25:35,708 --> 00:25:38,275 Number one, I am not where I want to be 679 00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:39,842 or where I think I should be 680 00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:41,583 to start a family, to have a girlfriend, 681 00:25:41,801 --> 00:25:43,324 and I'm not gonna waste anyone's time 682 00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,979 if I don't think I'm ready to even get fucking married 683 00:25:46,196 --> 00:25:47,370 or make that big of a commitment. 684 00:25:47,371 --> 00:25:48,721 She wasn't asking you to marry her. 685 00:25:48,938 --> 00:25:50,766 - I know. - You wanted to waste my time. 686 00:25:50,984 --> 00:25:52,725 You wanted to go and travel and still get to know me. 687 00:25:52,942 --> 00:25:55,075 - That's wasting my time. - But that's why I told you 688 00:25:55,292 --> 00:25:57,468 that I wanna leave the door open for you. 689 00:25:57,643 --> 00:26:00,863 It seemed odd that you had her over 690 00:26:01,081 --> 00:26:02,822 - for salads. - Yes. 691 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:05,172 Then said, "I wanna see other people." 692 00:26:05,389 --> 00:26:07,217 - It was misleading. - What was the intention there? 693 00:26:07,435 --> 00:26:10,481 I really could not fucking tell you. 694 00:26:10,656 --> 00:26:12,440 - You know what my theory is? - What? 695 00:26:12,614 --> 00:26:15,922 My theory is it was a blow to your ego 696 00:26:16,139 --> 00:26:19,708 that she broke things off with you at Universal, 697 00:26:19,926 --> 00:26:22,972 and that confused you, 698 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:25,975 and so then that made you go all in. 699 00:26:26,193 --> 00:26:28,804 And then when she said yes, you were like, "Wait a minute, 700 00:26:29,022 --> 00:26:30,545 - "what did I do?" - One could say that. 701 00:26:30,719 --> 00:26:32,416 I also think I played the card of, like, 702 00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:34,375 "Okay, let me show him what he's missing until it's gone," 703 00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:36,246 or whatever the fuck the saying is. 704 00:26:36,464 --> 00:26:38,292 - Don't know what you got. - Until it's gone. 705 00:26:38,509 --> 00:26:40,076 So I was like, "Okay, fine. I'm walking away. 706 00:26:40,294 --> 00:26:41,948 - "Figure it out." - I think that's a good theory. 707 00:26:42,165 --> 00:26:43,602 - Okay. - Here's the thing also. 708 00:26:43,819 --> 00:26:45,255 "Here's a salad. I don't wanna be exclusive." 709 00:26:45,473 --> 00:26:47,083 I know you were ready to commit. 710 00:26:47,301 --> 00:26:49,608 I know. I thought you were gonna ask me to be your girlfriend 711 00:26:49,825 --> 00:26:51,522 and then all of a sudden you give me tulips 712 00:26:51,697 --> 00:26:53,655 and a sandwich and say, "I wanna see other people." 713 00:26:53,873 --> 00:26:56,005 - You made that very clear. - Like, that was crazy. 714 00:26:56,223 --> 00:26:57,180 That was crazy work. 715 00:26:57,398 --> 00:26:58,704 - Are you hurt? - Very. 716 00:26:58,921 --> 00:27:00,488 And the facts are-- the facts are, 717 00:27:00,662 --> 00:27:03,099 it was either I commit, ask you to be my girlfriend. 718 00:27:03,317 --> 00:27:06,973 When I know I'm not ready, I commit. 719 00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:11,107 Or if I don't do that, then that's it, and we're done. 720 00:27:11,325 --> 00:27:13,501 And I just-- I wasn't ready to do either of those. 721 00:27:13,675 --> 00:27:15,677 I understand that. 722 00:27:15,895 --> 00:27:19,463 I was expecting to, at least at the point where we were at, 723 00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:22,292 agree that maybe we weren't gonna just see other people. 724 00:27:22,510 --> 00:27:23,859 I didn't need you to say, "I'm your boyfriend." 725 00:27:24,077 --> 00:27:25,687 I didn't need you to say, "I'm never gonna see, 726 00:27:25,905 --> 00:27:27,167 "like, dah-dah-dah-dah ever again." 727 00:27:27,384 --> 00:27:28,864 Like, I take things day by day. 728 00:27:29,082 --> 00:27:30,344 I take things at face value. 729 00:27:30,561 --> 00:27:32,346 And if in that moment, after eight weeks, 730 00:27:32,563 --> 00:27:33,913 you weren't able to tell me, 731 00:27:34,130 --> 00:27:35,871 "I don't wanna sleep with other people," 732 00:27:36,089 --> 00:27:38,657 then that shows me that you are already planning 733 00:27:38,874 --> 00:27:40,354 in the future to do that. 734 00:27:40,571 --> 00:27:42,356 And I'm not gonna stick around to be the girl 735 00:27:42,573 --> 00:27:44,837 who watches it happen and watch 736 00:27:45,054 --> 00:27:46,882 - my self-worth disintegrate. - Good for you. 737 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:49,711 Have the two of you hooked up since the show wrapped? 738 00:27:49,929 --> 00:27:51,321 - No. No. - No. 739 00:27:51,539 --> 00:27:53,759 No? Are you seeing anyone now? 740 00:27:53,976 --> 00:27:55,369 A little bit, yes. 741 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,503 - One person? - One person, yes. 742 00:27:59,678 --> 00:28:01,288 Are you seeing anyone now? 743 00:28:01,505 --> 00:28:05,596 I'm focusing on myself, and I'm seeing myself 744 00:28:05,771 --> 00:28:08,382 and I'm not letting anyone else into my circle 745 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,515 until they prove to me that they are worth my time, 746 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,996 my body, my energy, everything. 747 00:28:14,214 --> 00:28:15,737 - All right. - And I hope that that person 748 00:28:15,955 --> 00:28:18,435 that you're seeing is ready for you 749 00:28:18,653 --> 00:28:20,524 and that you figured your shit out for her. 750 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:22,439 That's fair. Mm-hmm. 751 00:28:22,657 --> 00:28:24,833 So it really hurt you, this whole situation? 752 00:28:25,051 --> 00:28:28,228 It hurt me because I just felt like I wasn't good enough 753 00:28:28,445 --> 00:28:29,533 for someone to commit to me. 754 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:31,797 Well, you 100% are. 755 00:28:32,014 --> 00:28:33,450 I know, but that's not what it felt like. 756 00:28:33,668 --> 00:28:35,148 - You didn't make me feel-- - That's my fault. 757 00:28:35,365 --> 00:28:36,845 You didn't make me feel wanted. 758 00:28:37,063 --> 00:28:38,804 You didn't make me feel like I deserved a relationship, 759 00:28:39,021 --> 00:28:40,719 especially when I laid all my cards out 760 00:28:40,936 --> 00:28:43,722 on the table for you and stuck up for you in situations that 761 00:28:43,896 --> 00:28:46,333 I don't know if I would have done for someone else. 762 00:28:46,550 --> 00:28:48,552 - I did it because it was you. - Mm-hmm. 763 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,296 All right, we're gonna take a five minute break. 764 00:28:53,514 --> 00:28:55,211 - Five minutes. - Oh, my God. 765 00:28:55,429 --> 00:28:58,998 - I gotta get a snacky. - I need something to drink. 766 00:28:59,215 --> 00:29:00,869 Good stuff, dude. Holy shit. 767 00:29:01,087 --> 00:29:02,741 - Are you all right? - I'm okay. 768 00:29:02,915 --> 00:29:05,744 I think I said everything I need to say, which I'm glad. 769 00:29:05,918 --> 00:29:08,659 I don't want to see you get angry just with the world. 770 00:29:08,834 --> 00:29:10,270 I know. I need to let the anger go. 771 00:29:10,487 --> 00:29:12,098 Yeah, you do, you do. 772 00:29:12,315 --> 00:29:15,057 I feel like you got-- Well, besides the OnlyFans stuff. 773 00:29:15,275 --> 00:29:16,842 Okay, you said it. You said your piece. 774 00:29:17,059 --> 00:29:18,495 - Now... - Breathe. 775 00:29:18,713 --> 00:29:21,107 Now, don't shut yourself off to the world. 776 00:29:21,324 --> 00:29:22,673 I'm not. I'm open to it. 777 00:29:22,848 --> 00:29:25,111 I love love. I want love. And I want friendship. 778 00:29:25,328 --> 00:29:27,113 - You are a very lovable person. - Thank you. 779 00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:28,810 You're very sweet. You're very beautiful. 780 00:29:29,028 --> 00:29:30,203 - Thank you. - You're very smart. 781 00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:31,726 - You've got strength. - Thank you. 782 00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:33,989 - Don't shut yourself down. - Thank you. 783 00:29:42,128 --> 00:29:45,958 Welcome back to the Vanderpump Rules season 12 reunion. 784 00:29:46,175 --> 00:29:49,483 Audrey, between lap dances and Kim's tears, 785 00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:52,312 - your 22nd birthday party was-- - It was awesome. 786 00:30:03,845 --> 00:30:05,455 I hate that Kim's crying, 787 00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:08,415 but I don't hate that she's crying to me. 788 00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:09,938 I'm 22 now. 789 00:30:10,156 --> 00:30:12,636 Don't ever say that out loud to me ever again. 790 00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:15,814 I'm with Demy on this one. Who turns 22? 791 00:30:16,031 --> 00:30:18,904 - I was so upset and so jealous. - I mean, it's so unfair. 792 00:30:19,121 --> 00:30:20,819 Do you sometimes feel more mature 793 00:30:20,993 --> 00:30:22,603 than your colleagues here? 794 00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:26,912 Every single day. 795 00:30:27,129 --> 00:30:31,177 Yeah, I think that turning 22, I felt like I was turning 32. 796 00:30:31,394 --> 00:30:35,007 Jason, while Kim was sobbing into Natalie's boobs, 797 00:30:35,224 --> 00:30:39,011 you and Chris put on a great show for the birthday girl. 798 00:30:39,228 --> 00:30:41,927 I heard a rumor that's not the weirdest stripping situation 799 00:30:42,144 --> 00:30:43,711 - you've been in. - Oh, no. 800 00:30:43,885 --> 00:30:45,756 Me and Chris have stripped in the past. 801 00:30:45,931 --> 00:30:47,758 When I was in my teens, that's kind of my first like-- 802 00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:49,108 - Job? - Job, really. 803 00:30:49,325 --> 00:30:50,979 Yeah, I loved it, honestly. 804 00:30:51,197 --> 00:30:52,851 - You were a teen stripper? - I was a teen stripper. 805 00:30:53,025 --> 00:30:54,765 I was actually studying pre-med at the time. 806 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:56,506 So that's how I paid for school. 807 00:30:56,724 --> 00:30:59,509 - You were in pre-med? - Sorry. Wow. 808 00:30:59,727 --> 00:31:01,729 So you think he'd be able to learn the menu, right? 809 00:31:01,903 --> 00:31:04,601 Yeah, I mean, you know, it begs some questions. 810 00:31:04,819 --> 00:31:08,910 What's the most awkward lap dance situation you've been in? 811 00:31:09,128 --> 00:31:12,087 She was my fourth grade teacher. Yeah, she was super hot. 812 00:31:12,305 --> 00:31:15,656 - Were you in fourth grade? - No, no, no. 813 00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:17,136 Me and my identical twin brother 814 00:31:17,353 --> 00:31:19,878 did this routine together, Jason and Justin, 815 00:31:20,095 --> 00:31:21,575 but my stage name was Rider Knight. 816 00:31:21,792 --> 00:31:23,229 But anyways, I take my mask off 817 00:31:23,446 --> 00:31:24,708 and I'm like, "What's up, Miss Johnson?" 818 00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:26,536 And she just like absolutely lost it. 819 00:31:26,754 --> 00:31:28,582 She was like, "Do not tell your parents about this." 820 00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:30,323 Oh, my God, that's amazing. 821 00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:33,892 Okay, I wanna talk about something else. 822 00:31:34,109 --> 00:31:36,720 Marcus and Kim's on-again, off-again, wait a second, 823 00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:39,898 they're on-again relationship had their colleagues 824 00:31:40,115 --> 00:31:42,639 looking at them like they were from Mars. 825 00:31:42,857 --> 00:31:45,555 But when Venus fell out of their orbit, 826 00:31:45,773 --> 00:31:49,168 the SUR galaxy became more toxic than ever. 827 00:31:49,385 --> 00:31:51,866 So Kim, when you overheard Marcus say 828 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,261 he was falling out of love with you, that was rough. 829 00:31:55,478 --> 00:31:58,394 But then the two of you got back together 12 hours later. 830 00:31:58,612 --> 00:32:00,179 Yeah, you know, I think at that time 831 00:32:00,396 --> 00:32:02,833 I was in such survival mode, and-- 832 00:32:03,008 --> 00:32:04,531 Ugh, this is gonna get me emotional. 833 00:32:04,748 --> 00:32:06,576 At the time, I was kind of holding him up 834 00:32:06,794 --> 00:32:08,230 through the loss of his mom. 835 00:32:08,448 --> 00:32:12,104 And I felt if I were to lose him at that moment, 836 00:32:12,321 --> 00:32:13,844 I would lose it. 837 00:32:14,019 --> 00:32:16,717 And I went to him that night and I was just like, 838 00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:18,458 "Forget what happened today, forget what's happened. 839 00:32:18,675 --> 00:32:19,938 "Are we in this or are we not?" 840 00:32:20,155 --> 00:32:21,417 Of course we knew we were gonna go 841 00:32:21,635 --> 00:32:22,941 into the next day judged, but I don't care. 842 00:32:23,115 --> 00:32:25,334 I care about us, because this is my future. 843 00:32:25,552 --> 00:32:26,857 Marcus, what drove you to say 844 00:32:27,032 --> 00:32:28,772 you were falling out of love with her? 845 00:32:28,947 --> 00:32:30,687 You know, during that time in our relationship, 846 00:32:30,905 --> 00:32:33,560 we were going through it. Like, even before filming started, 847 00:32:33,777 --> 00:32:35,214 it was just like such a tough time. 848 00:32:35,431 --> 00:32:37,129 It sounds like the whole relationship 849 00:32:37,346 --> 00:32:38,957 - has been a bumpy ride. - Not really. 850 00:32:39,174 --> 00:32:40,741 I mean, we're not blind to that. 851 00:32:40,959 --> 00:32:42,656 Like, I know other people think that, like, we think 852 00:32:42,873 --> 00:32:44,963 that we have the best relationship and it's, like, 853 00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:46,921 - not toxic or whatever. - No one thinks that. 854 00:32:47,095 --> 00:32:49,315 Or, like, think that we don't see what you see too. 855 00:32:49,532 --> 00:32:52,753 We see it. We get it. The reason I said that in the moment 856 00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:54,581 was that night at Audrey's party, I saw, like, Kimberly, 857 00:32:54,798 --> 00:32:56,539 like, teaming up with the people that were bashing me. 858 00:32:56,757 --> 00:32:58,585 I was just trying to let you know, like, 859 00:32:58,802 --> 00:33:00,413 "I love you to death, but this behavior right now 860 00:33:00,630 --> 00:33:02,850 "is, like, ruining the love for me a little bit." 861 00:33:03,024 --> 00:33:05,940 Venus, is this the pattern of their relationship? 862 00:33:06,114 --> 00:33:09,683 I mean, it's just always been this way since the beginning. 863 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:13,339 And truthfully, I feel like they're not compatible. 864 00:33:13,556 --> 00:33:16,342 Like Marcus is more like a 35-year-old frat boy. 865 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:19,519 And then Kim's like this office executive. 866 00:33:19,736 --> 00:33:21,956 And I just think it's really embarrassing 867 00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:24,263 and they can do better. 868 00:33:26,874 --> 00:33:29,094 - What's your reaction to that? - Also, but by the way, 869 00:33:29,311 --> 00:33:30,791 Venus has not been involved in our relationship 870 00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:32,793 the last six months or so, 871 00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:36,057 so I think to say that we're still embarrassing is... 872 00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:39,060 It doesn't disregard how he felt about the time-- 873 00:33:39,278 --> 00:33:41,976 I'm not disregarding. I never disregarded it. 874 00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:44,413 The thing is, Venus's perspective comes like somebody 875 00:33:44,631 --> 00:33:47,025 who doesn't know what it feels like to be in love 876 00:33:47,242 --> 00:33:50,332 and go through turmoil and deal with, you know-- 877 00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:52,247 Yes, but y'all's is, like, never-ending. 878 00:33:52,465 --> 00:33:53,900 Maybe right now it's not, 879 00:33:53,901 --> 00:33:55,816 but I don't believe that it won't happen again. 880 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:58,384 I think to say that they're never gonna be compatible 881 00:33:58,601 --> 00:34:01,256 or not for each other is really hard coming from someone 882 00:34:01,474 --> 00:34:03,389 that's supposed to be their closest friend. 883 00:34:03,606 --> 00:34:05,217 Well, I've seen more than everyone else, 884 00:34:05,434 --> 00:34:07,523 so I feel like my opinion matters more than yours. 885 00:34:07,741 --> 00:34:09,525 For the last six months, I've been really in 886 00:34:09,743 --> 00:34:12,050 Kim's corner and I have watched their relationship really grow 887 00:34:12,267 --> 00:34:14,356 and strengthen, and I do see a foundation 888 00:34:14,574 --> 00:34:16,837 of a lot of love here, and I do think that they could work out. 889 00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:19,057 Where are you in your friendship now? 890 00:34:19,274 --> 00:34:21,711 They've proven to me over and over that 891 00:34:21,929 --> 00:34:23,322 I just need to love them at a distance 892 00:34:23,539 --> 00:34:25,106 and there's only so much that... 893 00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:27,543 - How have I proven that? - Do you trust them? 894 00:34:27,761 --> 00:34:29,241 I don't trust either of them. 895 00:34:30,372 --> 00:34:32,331 Do you think if they were split up, 896 00:34:32,548 --> 00:34:35,116 your relationships with both of them would be better? 897 00:34:35,334 --> 00:34:37,292 I guess so. More with Kim. 898 00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:39,512 Marcus, I feel like I'll feel the same about him 899 00:34:39,729 --> 00:34:41,296 whether they're in a relationship or not. 900 00:34:41,514 --> 00:34:43,864 Truth is, Venus has been in a bad relationship before, 901 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:46,127 a toxic relationship, and we've talked about this. 902 00:34:46,345 --> 00:34:49,130 Marcus reminds him of his ex. He has projected a lot of that 903 00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:51,828 - situation onto Marcus and I. - That's true. 904 00:34:52,046 --> 00:34:54,788 I've said to him, "I'm not you. It's a very different scenario." 905 00:34:55,005 --> 00:34:56,703 I will say there's multiple truths, 906 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,531 because yes, that is true, 907 00:34:58,748 --> 00:35:00,750 'cause I kind of filter their relationship through my past. 908 00:35:00,968 --> 00:35:04,145 But at the same time, when it's Marcus screaming at Kim 909 00:35:04,363 --> 00:35:07,235 or whatever I'm watching unfold, not only does it trigger me 910 00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:09,368 off of what I experienced in the past, 911 00:35:09,585 --> 00:35:11,109 but watching it unfold in front of me 912 00:35:11,283 --> 00:35:12,806 is just as unsettling as what happened to me. 913 00:35:13,023 --> 00:35:14,503 It was my impression that you had been... 914 00:35:14,721 --> 00:35:16,244 He's also protective of you. 915 00:35:16,462 --> 00:35:20,074 ...inactive romantically and sexually for quite a while. 916 00:35:20,248 --> 00:35:22,120 Yeah, this is my eighth year of no sex. 917 00:35:22,294 --> 00:35:23,686 Instead of me finding love, 918 00:35:23,904 --> 00:35:26,776 I kind of insert myself in relationships 919 00:35:26,994 --> 00:35:28,474 - that are around me. - Exactly. 920 00:35:28,691 --> 00:35:31,259 And now I've learned from this to just not do that. 921 00:35:31,477 --> 00:35:35,350 Did you ever have different feelings for Marcus? Honestly. 922 00:35:36,221 --> 00:35:38,310 - In, like, a love way? - Yeah. 923 00:35:38,527 --> 00:35:42,140 Absolutely not. I actually-- If I'm being honest, 924 00:35:42,314 --> 00:35:44,751 I'd rather eat Kim out than touch Marcus. 925 00:35:44,968 --> 00:35:46,492 He's lying. Can I say one more thing? 926 00:35:46,709 --> 00:35:49,799 Can I just say one more thing? I have gone out of my way, 927 00:35:50,017 --> 00:35:51,714 'cause I've seen Venus be uncomfortable 928 00:35:51,932 --> 00:35:53,455 while me and Kimberly are fighting. 929 00:35:53,673 --> 00:35:56,110 Early on in the relationship, I told Venus that day, 930 00:35:56,284 --> 00:35:58,330 called him when he got home, "Brother, I'm so sorry. 931 00:35:58,547 --> 00:36:00,070 "I saw how affected you were by that. 932 00:36:00,245 --> 00:36:02,290 "I will never include you in our relationship again." 933 00:36:02,508 --> 00:36:04,162 Have I included you ever since then? 934 00:36:04,379 --> 00:36:06,338 - Why are you crying? - I'm sorry. 935 00:36:06,555 --> 00:36:09,036 - Why are you crying? - Are you crying? 936 00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:11,169 I think that the conversation 937 00:36:11,343 --> 00:36:13,693 kind of overwhelmed me for a second, but I'm fine. 938 00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:15,651 Well, tell us what you're feeling. 939 00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:20,352 You know, it's just, after everything with Marcus and Kim, 940 00:36:20,569 --> 00:36:22,049 like, it's just been so much for so long, 941 00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:24,051 so just, like, rehashing it 942 00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:25,966 and then talking about my past and stuff, 943 00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:28,273 it just like, just came up and just hit me. 944 00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:32,625 Is there anything you can share about your past relationship? 945 00:36:32,842 --> 00:36:35,323 I mean, when it comes to my dating life personally, 946 00:36:35,541 --> 00:36:37,195 you know, like, when I was in high school, 947 00:36:37,412 --> 00:36:39,588 I got into a relationship with a guy 948 00:36:39,806 --> 00:36:42,200 that, like, laid his hands on me multiple times, 949 00:36:42,374 --> 00:36:43,505 like, punched me in the face 950 00:36:43,723 --> 00:36:45,203 while driving a car full of people, 951 00:36:45,377 --> 00:36:48,336 just straight up alcoholic that just tortured me. 952 00:36:48,554 --> 00:36:51,731 Next, I start kind of having a fling with my boss 953 00:36:51,948 --> 00:36:53,646 who then would, like... 954 00:36:53,863 --> 00:36:56,692 make me have sex with him or he wouldn't pay me 955 00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:58,128 and just all that kind of stuff. 956 00:36:58,303 --> 00:37:01,480 So all of that combined was just so much. 957 00:37:01,697 --> 00:37:02,959 It made me spiral when I was younger 958 00:37:03,177 --> 00:37:05,484 into suicidal thoughts and stuff. 959 00:37:05,701 --> 00:37:07,399 And then after that, I was just like, 960 00:37:07,616 --> 00:37:09,227 "You know what? Fuck all this. 961 00:37:09,444 --> 00:37:11,098 "I'm not talking to men anymore. Like, I'm not doing nothing. 962 00:37:11,272 --> 00:37:13,579 "I'm gonna focus on me. I'm gonna make my dreams come true. 963 00:37:13,796 --> 00:37:14,971 "I'm gonna move to LA, and I'm gonna be 964 00:37:15,189 --> 00:37:16,712 "the star that I know that I am." 965 00:37:16,930 --> 00:37:18,627 So I left all that in the past and then I moved here. 966 00:37:18,845 --> 00:37:22,631 So, no dating life. I'm good right now at least. 967 00:37:24,329 --> 00:37:26,156 It will happen when you're ready. 968 00:37:26,331 --> 00:37:27,680 Yeah. 969 00:37:27,897 --> 00:37:31,640 I just wanna say that it breaks my heart 970 00:37:31,858 --> 00:37:33,729 to see you crying like this, 971 00:37:33,947 --> 00:37:37,037 because I really felt like he's like, "Fuck you." 972 00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:38,733 He doesn't give a shit about me. 973 00:37:38,734 --> 00:37:40,301 It breaks my heart, but it also makes me feel like, 974 00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:42,564 damn, like he really did care about our friendship 975 00:37:42,782 --> 00:37:43,957 the way that I thought he did. 976 00:37:44,174 --> 00:37:45,915 And I know I could be a son of a bitch 977 00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:48,831 and maybe I didn't allow you to have your emotions 978 00:37:49,049 --> 00:37:51,704 and-- and be soft with me. 979 00:37:51,921 --> 00:37:53,749 And I made you be a motherfucker to me. 980 00:37:53,967 --> 00:37:55,534 So I'm sorry for that. 981 00:37:55,751 --> 00:37:58,363 You said he was your best straight friend. 982 00:37:58,580 --> 00:38:00,103 Yeah, for a while. 983 00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:02,454 'Cause when I started here, you know, I became friends 984 00:38:02,671 --> 00:38:04,673 with Kim and then she was interested in Marcus and 985 00:38:04,891 --> 00:38:07,197 I always thought Marcus was a shithead, so I was avoiding him. 986 00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:09,330 And then I started to fall in love 987 00:38:09,548 --> 00:38:11,027 with the shitheadedness and I'm like, 988 00:38:11,245 --> 00:38:13,203 "Okay, now I see a friendship. 989 00:38:13,378 --> 00:38:15,902 "I see what dynamic we have." 990 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:17,860 Hopefully you can get to a better place. 991 00:38:18,078 --> 00:38:19,558 Honestly, I'm at a point in my life, 992 00:38:19,775 --> 00:38:21,777 I don't have resentment or harboring anything. 993 00:38:21,995 --> 00:38:23,301 It's just where we stand. 994 00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:44,017 Welcome back to the Vanderpump Rules season 12 Reunion. 995 00:38:44,234 --> 00:38:46,498 Shayne, I'm curious to hear about the origins 996 00:38:46,715 --> 00:38:49,892 of your flirtationship with Natalie. 997 00:38:50,110 --> 00:38:51,851 I mean, what happened between the two of you 998 00:38:52,068 --> 00:38:54,941 that made you want her attention so much 999 00:38:55,158 --> 00:38:56,769 to bring another girl to SUR? 1000 00:38:56,986 --> 00:38:58,336 Marcus invited me out one night, 1001 00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:01,513 like, a month or so prior to filming, 1002 00:39:01,730 --> 00:39:04,254 and I saw her there, and she was, like, making out 1003 00:39:04,429 --> 00:39:05,995 - with some dude. - It was my birthday. 1004 00:39:06,213 --> 00:39:07,606 It was your birthday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1005 00:39:07,823 --> 00:39:09,738 That was Millie Bobby Brown's brother? 1006 00:39:09,956 --> 00:39:11,131 Yeah, I was just gonna say, 1007 00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:13,220 I have videos of them making out. 1008 00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:15,135 But she was making out with this dude, 1009 00:39:15,353 --> 00:39:17,050 and I was like, "Damn, I don't know what it is, 1010 00:39:17,267 --> 00:39:19,922 "but I kind of wanna be making out with her." 1011 00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:23,056 But there was no way to get that happening that night, 1012 00:39:23,273 --> 00:39:27,669 so the next time I saw her, I was with the boys. 1013 00:39:27,887 --> 00:39:30,890 And then I asked you to come out with me. 1014 00:39:31,107 --> 00:39:32,935 And then I thought it was a date. 1015 00:39:33,153 --> 00:39:34,633 She didn't think it was a date. 1016 00:39:34,850 --> 00:39:36,678 I thought we were just meeting up before everyone else. 1017 00:39:36,896 --> 00:39:38,941 That seems to be kind of a runner with you, 1018 00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:41,857 where you don't think it's a date, but other people do. 1019 00:39:42,075 --> 00:39:43,511 Because it happened spontaneously. 1020 00:39:43,729 --> 00:39:45,383 Yeah, but what quantifies a date then, exactly? 1021 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,341 - Like... - Good question. 1022 00:39:47,515 --> 00:39:49,822 Making an official plan, not on the spot. 1023 00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:51,389 Like, "Do you wanna meet here in an hour?" 1024 00:39:51,606 --> 00:39:53,391 The thing that we did was an official plan. 1025 00:39:53,565 --> 00:39:54,783 I say we go for the hug. 1026 00:39:56,742 --> 00:39:59,048 It's just been so fun and lighthearted. 1027 00:39:59,266 --> 00:40:01,616 I think what it is, really, is, like, 1028 00:40:01,834 --> 00:40:03,531 you have a very flirtatious personality. 1029 00:40:03,749 --> 00:40:06,621 So I could see maybe how someone just like Jason 1030 00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:08,797 would think maybe you did have feelings for him in a sense-- 1031 00:40:09,015 --> 00:40:11,104 That's why I was trying to say that we were just friends 1032 00:40:11,321 --> 00:40:13,715 throughout the whole thing. Like, I was trying to let him 1033 00:40:13,933 --> 00:40:15,978 know, like, "Don't read into it." 1034 00:40:16,196 --> 00:40:18,546 I got to say, like, she did say that. 1035 00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:21,375 It didn't feel like that, but you said that. 1036 00:40:21,549 --> 00:40:23,203 And, like, that's all I can take from it. 1037 00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:25,597 - And that's not up to me. - You should have told me, like, 1038 00:40:25,814 --> 00:40:28,077 "I'm developing feelings for you," so I could have not been 1039 00:40:28,295 --> 00:40:30,036 so flirty with you, because I thought I was saying, 1040 00:40:30,253 --> 00:40:31,777 "We're friends, we're friends," and you were okay with it. 1041 00:40:31,994 --> 00:40:33,605 I just feel like I didn't have to tell you that. 1042 00:40:33,822 --> 00:40:36,738 I feel like I was showing you that in a sense, really. 1043 00:40:36,956 --> 00:40:38,305 All right, well, I'm sorry I didn't read your mind. 1044 00:40:38,479 --> 00:40:39,872 - Yeah, no, it's all good. - Love you. 1045 00:40:40,089 --> 00:40:41,526 Love you too. 1046 00:40:41,743 --> 00:40:43,658 Well, new hostess Angelica burst onto the scene 1047 00:40:43,876 --> 00:40:46,356 by face-planting at the SUR photo shoot. 1048 00:40:46,531 --> 00:40:49,272 This is Angelica, and she's gonna be-- 1049 00:40:51,753 --> 00:40:53,233 Oh, my God! 1050 00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:57,193 And it wasn't long before she was planting her nose 1051 00:40:57,411 --> 00:40:59,457 in Chris and Jason's business 1052 00:40:59,631 --> 00:41:02,155 and planting her flag on Shayne. 1053 00:41:02,372 --> 00:41:04,549 Angelica, you seem to fall in love fast. 1054 00:41:04,766 --> 00:41:06,246 You know, when I came into the group, 1055 00:41:06,464 --> 00:41:08,466 I just got out of a really long relationship. 1056 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,468 - Yeah, how long? - It was a year and a half. 1057 00:41:10,685 --> 00:41:12,208 And then, so with that, 1058 00:41:12,426 --> 00:41:15,342 I used relationships with the guys that I was talking to 1059 00:41:15,516 --> 00:41:16,865 as kind of the distraction at the time. 1060 00:41:17,083 --> 00:41:19,607 The jiu-jitsu date did not go well for you. 1061 00:41:19,825 --> 00:41:21,435 No. 1062 00:41:26,179 --> 00:41:28,790 - Fuck you! - Ow! 1063 00:41:29,008 --> 00:41:31,314 Was it back pain or the realization 1064 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:33,186 that he was dating someone else? 1065 00:41:33,403 --> 00:41:35,057 I didn't feel the back pain until the next day. 1066 00:41:35,275 --> 00:41:36,494 - You didn't? - No. 1067 00:41:36,668 --> 00:41:38,060 Chris seemed pretty insistent 1068 00:41:38,278 --> 00:41:39,801 that you were putting it on about the back pain. 1069 00:41:40,019 --> 00:41:41,803 Yeah, that was a little insensitive. 1070 00:41:42,021 --> 00:41:43,370 In the moment, it seemed, like-- 1071 00:41:43,544 --> 00:41:45,415 - Malicious. - You were making it seem like 1072 00:41:45,590 --> 00:41:48,506 Jason did it on purpose, which was 100% not the case. 1073 00:41:48,723 --> 00:41:51,770 And I never slammed you. I swung you around and I did not mean 1074 00:41:51,987 --> 00:41:54,250 - in any way to ever hurt you. - Let's just say we were on 1075 00:41:54,468 --> 00:41:56,514 hard mats, and you slammed me on the floor from the very get. 1076 00:41:56,731 --> 00:41:58,559 I feel like any guy that knows that they're physically 1077 00:41:58,777 --> 00:42:01,475 more dominant, stronger than a woman, is just gonna treat them 1078 00:42:01,649 --> 00:42:04,304 - a little more gently. - Honestly, looking back at it, 1079 00:42:04,522 --> 00:42:05,784 I'm like, "Damn, I probably could have been 1080 00:42:06,001 --> 00:42:07,568 "a little bit more light," but in the moment, 1081 00:42:07,786 --> 00:42:09,004 like the laughter and everything, 1082 00:42:09,222 --> 00:42:10,789 I just thought it was, like, fun for me, 1083 00:42:11,006 --> 00:42:12,225 and I was like, "Oh, she's not exhibiting 1084 00:42:12,442 --> 00:42:14,314 "any kind of facial expression of pain." 1085 00:42:14,532 --> 00:42:17,709 And I wish I asked more questions. 1086 00:42:17,926 --> 00:42:20,929 In my defense, I saw you walking around, 1087 00:42:21,147 --> 00:42:22,496 dancing with Shayne like there was 1088 00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:23,976 - nothing really going on. - That's fair. 1089 00:42:24,193 --> 00:42:25,325 Shayne was very considerate that night. 1090 00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:26,631 He made sure I was sitting, 1091 00:42:26,848 --> 00:42:28,284 he would constantly check in. 1092 00:42:28,502 --> 00:42:30,025 And I feel like that moment where he's asking me, 1093 00:42:30,243 --> 00:42:31,592 "Are you okay?" 1094 00:42:31,810 --> 00:42:33,202 And I'm like, "No," like... I was on pain meds, 1095 00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:34,682 and I was three tequilas deep. 1096 00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:37,903 I felt nothing but pure bliss in that moment. 1097 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,036 And I did go to the doctor and I did get physical therapy, 1098 00:42:41,254 --> 00:42:43,691 and my back was injured, and I still feel it to this day. 1099 00:42:43,909 --> 00:42:45,301 I mean, anyone with a back injury knows 1100 00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:47,434 that it's temperamental and it's like, 1101 00:42:47,608 --> 00:42:49,044 it's not gonna be great sometimes, 1102 00:42:49,262 --> 00:42:50,785 but other days you're not gonna feel it for weeks. 1103 00:42:51,003 --> 00:42:52,570 It really doesn't matter. 1104 00:42:52,744 --> 00:42:54,441 Sometimes the weather will change and I'm like, "Oh, fuck." 1105 00:42:54,615 --> 00:42:58,053 Anyone else here think Angelica was exaggerating her back pain? 1106 00:42:58,271 --> 00:42:59,620 - I do. - I could say, maybe-- Look-- 1107 00:42:59,838 --> 00:43:01,230 She wasn't. I had a text from her. 1108 00:43:01,448 --> 00:43:03,015 I don't think she was exaggerating-- 1109 00:43:03,232 --> 00:43:04,538 None of you guys on this side were my support system, 1110 00:43:04,712 --> 00:43:06,105 and I was never talking to you about it, 1111 00:43:06,322 --> 00:43:08,107 so I don't know why you think you can come at me 1112 00:43:08,324 --> 00:43:09,935 with your opinions on whether or not it was real 1113 00:43:10,152 --> 00:43:11,763 because I didn't talk about it. 1114 00:43:11,980 --> 00:43:13,460 You're crashing out right now! You're crashing out! 1115 00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:15,027 Let me speak, I was about to say something nice. 1116 00:43:15,244 --> 00:43:16,506 I don't wanna hear it from you 1117 00:43:16,681 --> 00:43:18,117 'cause this entire time I've been talking, 1118 00:43:18,334 --> 00:43:19,597 you've been giving me faces, shaking your head 1119 00:43:19,771 --> 00:43:21,163 - and trying to throw jabs. - Okay, babe. 1120 00:43:21,381 --> 00:43:22,904 You're throwing all the jabs on social media, 1121 00:43:23,122 --> 00:43:25,167 so I feel like the door's fucking open right now, bitch. 1122 00:43:25,385 --> 00:43:26,734 I was gonna say, I don't think 1123 00:43:26,952 --> 00:43:28,780 you were exaggerating your back pain whatsoever, 1124 00:43:28,997 --> 00:43:30,695 because the day of the photo shoot, 1125 00:43:30,912 --> 00:43:33,349 you came in and you were talking to Lisa and you were crying. 1126 00:43:33,567 --> 00:43:34,699 I was right there with you. 1127 00:43:34,916 --> 00:43:36,265 You were telling me you got your MRI. 1128 00:43:36,483 --> 00:43:38,050 I was like, I feel so sorry for you right now. 1129 00:43:38,267 --> 00:43:40,966 And then a second later, it's the word diarrhea, 1130 00:43:41,183 --> 00:43:42,358 and then all of a sudden it's like, okay, 1131 00:43:42,576 --> 00:43:44,534 so why are you using that as an excuse 1132 00:43:44,709 --> 00:43:47,146 to bring up something irrelevant in the moment? 1133 00:43:47,363 --> 00:43:49,017 It wasn't that that I was using the excuse for it, 1134 00:43:49,235 --> 00:43:50,584 but I really appreciate you validating me. 1135 00:43:50,758 --> 00:43:52,238 That's what you said. 1136 00:43:52,455 --> 00:43:55,763 Jason, you and Angelica hit it off right away. 1137 00:43:55,981 --> 00:43:58,636 But when she asked about your last relationship, 1138 00:43:58,853 --> 00:44:01,377 why did you lie and make it seem like you were single? 1139 00:44:01,595 --> 00:44:02,596 When was your last relationship? 1140 00:44:02,770 --> 00:44:03,989 Um... 1141 00:44:04,946 --> 00:44:07,732 Probably, like, four to five years ago. 1142 00:44:07,949 --> 00:44:10,125 Well, for me, my relationship that I was in 1143 00:44:10,343 --> 00:44:13,868 was long distance, actually on a different continent. 1144 00:44:14,086 --> 00:44:15,478 And we didn't even speak the same language. 1145 00:44:15,653 --> 00:44:16,784 So it's pretty complicated. 1146 00:44:17,002 --> 00:44:18,612 When you watched it back, 1147 00:44:18,786 --> 00:44:22,442 did you see how it could seem misleading to Angelica? 1148 00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:24,618 Not necessarily, because I think that we met 1149 00:44:24,792 --> 00:44:26,707 on the first day at this pool party. 1150 00:44:26,925 --> 00:44:28,578 And, I mean, you could shake your head all you want, 1151 00:44:28,753 --> 00:44:30,755 Angelica, but when it comes down to it, 1152 00:44:30,972 --> 00:44:32,452 I was getting to know you. 1153 00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:34,584 And for me, I just feel like I was getting to know-- 1154 00:44:34,759 --> 00:44:36,586 I understand what you're saying. 1155 00:44:36,761 --> 00:44:38,283 And I was getting to know you too, 1156 00:44:38,284 --> 00:44:40,373 but I led with all my red flags and all my honesty. 1157 00:44:40,590 --> 00:44:42,157 And, you know, honesty goes a long way. 1158 00:44:42,375 --> 00:44:43,855 And if you were doing something 1159 00:44:44,072 --> 00:44:45,204 or had something with someone else, 1160 00:44:45,421 --> 00:44:46,639 it doesn't matter where they're at. 1161 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,250 If there's some kind of emotional bond 1162 00:44:48,468 --> 00:44:50,122 that you have with another woman, even if she's... 1163 00:44:50,339 --> 00:44:52,515 Okay, then why didn't you tell me you were fucking your ex? 1164 00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:55,780 Wait, I said I lived with my ex. 1165 00:44:55,997 --> 00:44:57,695 You didn't say you were still sleeping with him. 1166 00:44:57,869 --> 00:44:59,479 That's still an emotional connection. 1167 00:44:59,697 --> 00:45:00,828 Angelica wants to be 1168 00:45:01,046 --> 00:45:02,743 the only girl a guy is talking to. 1169 00:45:02,961 --> 00:45:04,484 I'm not even saying that to be offensive. 1170 00:45:04,702 --> 00:45:06,399 The thing is, I'm living with my ex. 1171 00:45:06,616 --> 00:45:08,618 We share two separate bedrooms. We don't go to bed at night. 1172 00:45:08,793 --> 00:45:10,882 You said you slept in the same bed. 1173 00:45:11,099 --> 00:45:12,318 Yeah, that's the safest way. 1174 00:45:12,535 --> 00:45:13,840 I'm not gonna go sleeping on the streets. 1175 00:45:13,841 --> 00:45:15,582 I'm not gonna go sleep with random people. 1176 00:45:15,756 --> 00:45:17,149 You have intercourse with him. You have sex. You said that. 1177 00:45:17,366 --> 00:45:18,846 Yes, I was sleeping with my ex. 1178 00:45:19,064 --> 00:45:20,239 I'm pretty sure most people that go through a breakup 1179 00:45:20,456 --> 00:45:21,588 that still live with their ex 1180 00:45:21,762 --> 00:45:23,242 are gonna be sleeping with their ex. 1181 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,288 But I'm not trying to form a connection with my ex. 1182 00:45:26,506 --> 00:45:28,508 You were forming a connection with whoever person... 1183 00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:30,945 - How do you know that? - Because you told me. 1184 00:45:31,163 --> 00:45:32,599 You were on top of me, telling me, 1185 00:45:32,773 --> 00:45:34,688 "Oh, by the way, it's over. Let me kiss you." 1186 00:45:34,862 --> 00:45:35,950 That's not how I did it. 1187 00:45:36,168 --> 00:45:37,517 That's how it happened. 1188 00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:38,997 Oh, like that? 1189 00:45:39,214 --> 00:45:40,912 Yes, and I was like, "Ah, get away from me!" 1190 00:45:41,129 --> 00:45:42,217 Did you have a lot of fun today? 1191 00:45:42,435 --> 00:45:44,393 I did. That was fun. I'd do it again. 1192 00:45:44,611 --> 00:45:46,265 - No! - Okay. 1193 00:45:46,482 --> 00:45:48,093 That's how it happened. You literally were, like, pinned 1194 00:45:48,310 --> 00:45:50,617 on top of me, and I had nowhere else to go. 1195 00:45:50,791 --> 00:45:52,880 By the way, you posted a screenshot 1196 00:45:53,098 --> 00:45:55,187 of a text exchange with Jason 1197 00:45:55,404 --> 00:45:57,755 where he suggested your jiu-jitsu bruises 1198 00:45:57,972 --> 00:45:59,800 were from rough sex. 1199 00:46:00,018 --> 00:46:02,281 Was he implying that the two of you 1200 00:46:02,498 --> 00:46:04,065 hooked up after your date? 1201 00:46:04,283 --> 00:46:06,111 - I don't know what that was. - It was just a joke. 1202 00:46:06,328 --> 00:46:08,853 Oh, okay. Have the two of you ever slept together? 1203 00:46:09,070 --> 00:46:10,202 - No. - No. 1204 00:46:10,419 --> 00:46:11,507 - Okay. - Never. 1205 00:46:11,725 --> 00:46:13,858 Jason, why did you text Angelica 1206 00:46:14,075 --> 00:46:16,556 asking her to take down the Instagram story? 1207 00:46:16,774 --> 00:46:18,558 It's just something that happened so long ago. 1208 00:46:18,776 --> 00:46:20,167 I feel like it's out of context. 1209 00:46:20,168 --> 00:46:22,736 My initial joke was that we were rolling around 1210 00:46:22,910 --> 00:46:24,607 in jiu-jitsu like Mr. and Mrs. Smith. 1211 00:46:24,782 --> 00:46:25,956 Rough sex, dot, dot, dot. 1212 00:46:25,957 --> 00:46:27,349 You got bruises all over your legs. 1213 00:46:27,567 --> 00:46:28,655 Well, you gave me those bruises, 1214 00:46:28,829 --> 00:46:30,222 and I was trying to show you that... 1215 00:46:30,439 --> 00:46:32,441 It's not like I intentionally meant to do that. 1216 00:46:32,659 --> 00:46:34,574 I was trying to show you how hard you were treating me. 1217 00:46:34,792 --> 00:46:36,532 I thought what you posted was out of context 1218 00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:38,273 and quite rude and very immature. 1219 00:46:38,491 --> 00:46:39,797 It was very clear what I was referring to. 1220 00:46:40,014 --> 00:46:41,799 You're in a relationship, if I speak about 1221 00:46:42,016 --> 00:46:45,150 what happens with you and other people on my social media, 1222 00:46:45,367 --> 00:46:46,847 you definitely wouldn't like that. 1223 00:46:47,065 --> 00:46:48,414 So just watch what you post. 1224 00:46:48,631 --> 00:46:50,372 Because I got ammo, and I'm not that rude. 1225 00:46:50,590 --> 00:46:52,548 I'm not gonna step out of line and post things out of context, 1226 00:46:52,766 --> 00:46:54,550 'cause we know what we're talking about. 1227 00:47:05,561 --> 00:47:06,780 You're in a relationship. 1228 00:47:06,954 --> 00:47:08,695 If I speak about what happens with you 1229 00:47:08,869 --> 00:47:10,566 and other people on my social media, 1230 00:47:10,784 --> 00:47:12,351 you definitely wouldn't like that. 1231 00:47:12,568 --> 00:47:13,831 So just watch what you post. 1232 00:47:14,005 --> 00:47:15,789 Because I got ammo, and I'm not that rude. 1233 00:47:15,963 --> 00:47:17,617 I'm not gonna step out of line and post things out of context, 1234 00:47:17,835 --> 00:47:19,097 'cause I'm pretty sure we know what we're talking about. 1235 00:47:19,314 --> 00:47:20,838 That's not the only thing, though. 1236 00:47:21,012 --> 00:47:22,709 There was things that you said about us as a group 1237 00:47:22,883 --> 00:47:24,276 specifically that were also hurtful. 1238 00:47:24,493 --> 00:47:25,625 When you called us all boring 1239 00:47:25,843 --> 00:47:27,192 and said if there's another season, 1240 00:47:27,409 --> 00:47:28,671 - it's because of you. - That wasn't my word, 1241 00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:30,151 that was other people saying it to me. 1242 00:47:30,369 --> 00:47:31,979 It's a screenshot of a message that you sent 1243 00:47:32,197 --> 00:47:33,851 calling us those things and saying that. 1244 00:47:34,025 --> 00:47:37,376 Okay, in all fairness, yes, I thought you guys were boring. 1245 00:47:38,507 --> 00:47:40,770 Because I came in, and I asked every one of you, 1246 00:47:40,945 --> 00:47:42,381 I'm like, "What the hell is going on? 1247 00:47:42,598 --> 00:47:44,035 "Tell me what's happening. Why are we fighting?" 1248 00:47:44,252 --> 00:47:45,775 None of you guys ever explained it to me. 1249 00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:48,213 The only person that even tried to take the time of day 1250 00:47:48,430 --> 00:47:50,650 to explain it to me was Demy and even she said, 1251 00:47:50,868 --> 00:47:52,652 - "This is too complicated." - I explained everything to you. 1252 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:54,131 You need to be studied in a lab. 1253 00:47:54,132 --> 00:47:57,352 The friend group has never been so divided. 1254 00:47:57,570 --> 00:47:59,180 A few weeks ago, Kim, she was saying, 1255 00:47:59,398 --> 00:48:02,183 "I can't be around Demy," and now they're best friends. 1256 00:48:02,401 --> 00:48:05,012 She was screaming in my face I'm a psychotic bitch. 1257 00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:06,796 Demy, she's like, "You're annoying. 1258 00:48:06,971 --> 00:48:07,972 "I hate the sound of your voice." 1259 00:48:08,189 --> 00:48:09,234 Oh, no. 1260 00:48:09,451 --> 00:48:11,801 Everyone is just so inconsistent. 1261 00:48:11,976 --> 00:48:13,891 You're saying that we never had moments like that, 1262 00:48:14,065 --> 00:48:15,718 and I was trying to explain the drama to you. 1263 00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:17,024 No, I understand, but for one week, 1264 00:48:17,242 --> 00:48:18,547 I was like, "Damn, what's happening?" 1265 00:48:18,765 --> 00:48:20,027 Okay, so then you're contradicting yourself. 1266 00:48:20,245 --> 00:48:21,594 I'm sorry I'm boring, I'm definitely not. 1267 00:48:21,811 --> 00:48:23,378 Let me ask you about something else. 1268 00:48:23,596 --> 00:48:25,685 Angelica, you got into an Instagram scuffle with Audrey 1269 00:48:25,903 --> 00:48:28,470 after the jiu-jitsu episode aired, 1270 00:48:28,688 --> 00:48:31,082 dragging Audrey for calling you a "homie hopper." 1271 00:48:31,299 --> 00:48:33,736 Why was that important for you to address online? 1272 00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:36,783 Well, I was really offended by the homie hopper incident. 1273 00:48:36,957 --> 00:48:38,916 I saw it back, and I saw Audrey call me that, 1274 00:48:39,133 --> 00:48:40,613 because she was the one to encourage me. 1275 00:48:40,830 --> 00:48:42,484 What do you think of Shayne? 1276 00:48:42,702 --> 00:48:44,834 Honestly, I probably need a little cute 1277 00:48:45,009 --> 00:48:46,619 little rebound, if anything, 1278 00:48:46,836 --> 00:48:48,447 and if Shayne's open to talking to other people, then... 1279 00:48:48,664 --> 00:48:51,711 He's open to talking to anything that has legs and a vagina. 1280 00:48:51,929 --> 00:48:53,495 So then why are you calling me a homie hopper? 1281 00:48:53,713 --> 00:48:54,975 Because I never even got with Jason. 1282 00:48:55,193 --> 00:48:56,672 We were just getting to know each other. 1283 00:48:56,890 --> 00:48:58,761 The reason I said that was because 1284 00:48:58,936 --> 00:49:00,328 I knew I already told the boys that. 1285 00:49:00,546 --> 00:49:02,635 I said, "I'm sorry for telling Angelica. 1286 00:49:02,852 --> 00:49:04,463 "If you wanna really make Jason mad, go to Shayne." 1287 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,422 I didn't think you were gonna be macking in his lap right away. 1288 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,076 I thought you were gonna go flirt with him. 1289 00:49:09,294 --> 00:49:11,731 That day, I was like, "I wanna kiss Shayne tonight." 1290 00:49:11,949 --> 00:49:13,167 I said that during the hangout. 1291 00:49:13,385 --> 00:49:14,952 I was literally making a joke of, like, 1292 00:49:15,169 --> 00:49:16,692 "Homie hop, don't homie walk." 1293 00:49:16,910 --> 00:49:19,130 Sue me, sue me, okay? 1294 00:49:19,347 --> 00:49:20,740 I wasn't slut-shaming you. 1295 00:49:20,958 --> 00:49:22,742 - It feels like it. - I wasn't slut-shaming you. 1296 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,613 What do you think a homie hopper is? 1297 00:49:24,831 --> 00:49:26,354 - I was not slut-shaming you. - It's kind of slut-shaming. 1298 00:49:26,572 --> 00:49:29,183 Oh, my God. I never slut-shamed you once. 1299 00:49:29,401 --> 00:49:31,055 I've never slut-shamed any woman. 1300 00:49:31,272 --> 00:49:32,751 When he says I'm a whore, 1301 00:49:32,752 --> 00:49:34,493 you were the one that suggested I talk to Shayne. 1302 00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:36,930 - You stood there silent. - When did he call you a whore? 1303 00:49:37,104 --> 00:49:39,367 - The night at the Abbey. - I did not hear that, 1304 00:49:39,585 --> 00:49:41,065 and if I had heard that, I would have said something. 1305 00:49:41,282 --> 00:49:42,805 You didn't say anything when he called me a bitch. 1306 00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:44,633 I thought you were being a bitch in that moment, 1307 00:49:44,851 --> 00:49:46,809 you had already made me mad, so why would I stand up for you? 1308 00:49:46,984 --> 00:49:48,681 Can I ask you a question? Why are you so mad today? 1309 00:49:48,898 --> 00:49:51,205 Because after the past two episodes have come out, 1310 00:49:51,423 --> 00:49:53,773 I have been brutalized on social media. 1311 00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:56,645 - I've gotten death threats. - You're not the only one. 1312 00:49:56,863 --> 00:49:58,430 - Shut the fuck up. - You're not the only one. 1313 00:49:58,647 --> 00:50:00,432 - Shut the fuck up. - Don't talk to me like that. 1314 00:50:00,649 --> 00:50:02,434 I can, because fuck you, because you fucking 1315 00:50:02,651 --> 00:50:03,870 started it, you bitch. 1316 00:50:08,353 --> 00:50:11,008 Next week, the reunion continues. 1317 00:50:11,225 --> 00:50:13,619 I've only been with, like, six women this year. 1318 00:50:13,836 --> 00:50:14,837 How many in this group? 1319 00:50:15,012 --> 00:50:17,405 - Two. - Wait, two? 1320 00:50:17,623 --> 00:50:20,582 Marcus and Kim, have you had any pregnancy scares? 1321 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,323 Well, babe... 1322 00:50:22,541 --> 00:50:24,717 You came to me every single day for weeks, saying, 1323 00:50:24,934 --> 00:50:26,632 "You're so fucking funny." 1324 00:50:26,849 --> 00:50:28,329 - Because I was building you up. - You're full of shit for that. 1325 00:50:28,547 --> 00:50:31,332 On a scale from nothing to White Lotus, 1326 00:50:31,550 --> 00:50:32,638 what was it? 1327 00:50:32,855 --> 00:50:34,161 I was just not ready for any of it. 1328 00:50:34,379 --> 00:50:36,598 How far is too far for you guys?