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Could you tell us about
November 7th, 1980?
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I remember everything.
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Will and Julie went riding
their bikes around 4:00.
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Supposed to go by a friend's
house, kid says he never saw 'em.
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What did you do?
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You're their mother, where were you?
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I am entitled to a life!
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How long have you folks
been sleeping separate?
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Dan left last May,
then I took the couch.
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- Dan?
- My cousin.
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You're having memory problems, right?
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What?
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You have memory problems.
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Henry's coming with
the people from the TV.
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So, you caught the case back in '80?
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Didn't work again 'til 90.
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And your wife's book
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was considered a classic
of literary non-fiction.
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I teach English. Will's
a student of mine.
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There's a few of the older boys.
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They make it hard on the others.
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Last name is Woodard,
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saw him riding around when
I was looking for the kids.
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What's your partner doing?
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Man was a long-range
reconnaissance in 'Nam.
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I found the boy. There's
no sign of the girl.
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Two months ago, the burglary
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and only one set of prints.
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Julie Purcell.
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She's alive?
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You have the autopsy report.
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I don't need to go over that.
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Blunt force trauma...
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and a cervical fracture.
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Somebody broke his neck.
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Brought him to that cave.
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Folded his hands, I guess.
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Alan.
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Talk to me about
Oklahoma. You have to, man.
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Wayne, this isn't the time...
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How many sets of prints were taken?
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Do they know she was one of
the robbers and not a customer?
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If they found her, you wouldn't
even be talkin' to me, right?
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Do they have video surveillance?
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Mr. Hays, the purpose of this deposition
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is to give your statement,
not to extract one from us.
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I'm pretty easygoin',
but go away already.
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I don't think I will.
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Look, we're not at
liberty to divulge details
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of an ongoing police investigation,
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nor to share discovery items with anyone
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other than the prosecutor's office.
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Now, you can talk to them,
if they'll talk to you...
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All right, stop.
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Wayne.
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Finish up today, all right?
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Then after, we'll speak.
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I'm sayin'...
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we'll talk. Okay?
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Now, you were sayin'.
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You questioned people during this time.
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- Right?
- Do you know another way to do it?
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The father worked at Wilson Body Works,
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where they used to make
parts for school buses.
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We talked to everybody there.
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Employed about a hundred
people from West Finger.
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The dolls were their own thing.
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Wasn't gettin' us anywhere, either.
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Thank you very much.
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That guy collected garbage, Woodard.
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We talked to him too.
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I saw the kids. They were
pedaling into the sun.
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Headed west?
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We went by your place.
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You sorta collect things, huh?
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I salvage trash that I can sell.
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You don't need to make
it sound better than that.
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You got any other properties?
Anywhere you keep things?
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I don't have anyplace else.
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What'd you do before this?
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Before you collected scrap.
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Uh, came back from overseas. '72.
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Did some carpentry.
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Construction dropped off.
Things didn't work out.
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My marriage. Stuff.
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I was gone too long.
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About four years ago she left me.
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Took the kids.
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I was motor pool.
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My man here was a LRRP. Two tours.
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Detective Hays. They called
him Purple Hays over there.
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You miss your family?
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I... Yeah.
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I miss being someone that way...
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a way I could have a family.
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You were recon?
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Seventy-fifth Infantry.
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Sergeant.
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You must be pretty insane.
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Volunteerin' for that.
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I didn't think about it
much, tell ya the truth.
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I ain't one of them burnouts.
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Ya know, comes back bustin'
guys up, gettin' high.
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And I ain't a bum.
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I keep a house. I pay my way!
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Hey. I ain't judgin', man.
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Look, I punch in and out.
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I put on a suit in the mornin'.
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And bein' honest...
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I don't have much of a life.
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So why?
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Why punch in?
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Why the suit? Why...
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I don't ask myself questions like that.
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Could be I'm too
chickenshit, Mr. Woodard.
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It ain't my world.
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Less than yours, even.
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But I did pretty good
at following orders.
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Now...
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You ever do this?
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I miss when "Don't get killed"
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was the only thing on my to-do list.
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It's hard to unplug from that.
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I spent a year comin' down.
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Just to go back over it, you
sure you didn't see anything?
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I told you.
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I saw the teenagers out there, too.
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I was goin' in the other direction.
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You like kids, generally?
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Do...
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What the fuck's the
right answer to that?
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You think I...
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Listen, I got two kids, okay?
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Where are they?
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I don't know.
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She didn't tell me.
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And I haven't gone lookin'.
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If I'd never left...
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I think it'd have been fine.
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But to go, and come back...
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I just couldn't put myself back
in that old story, that's all.
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And I couldn't leave
it, either. Ya know?
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You ever been someplace
you couldn't leave,
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and you couldn't stay...
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both at the same time?
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Do you remember the place?
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I remember.
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I can tell you all that
none of us will rest
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until we achieve justice in the matter.
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Our detectives are hard at work,
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and this is priority
one for law enforcement
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in Washington County
and Northwest Arkansas.
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Now, it's temporary,
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but we're gonna have to have
a curfew for a little while.
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It's important that we keep
an eye on our kids right now,
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and we want to make sure you
know where they are at all times,
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and that they're indoors by 8:00.
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Now, we can't really say too
much about the investigation,
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but I'm here to answer
any questions I can.
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Well, I don't let mine
go near Devil's Den.
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Everybody knows you got
something happenin' in it.
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Bums, junkies.
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Queers meet up out there.
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You have a question, sir?
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I wanna know what y'all are
doing to break up that stuff.
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Clean up that park!
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What about these junkies?
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You got heroin in Arkansas now.
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Right now our focus is tryin'
to find this little girl
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and bring her home.
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We're considering every possibility.
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And what about that fella
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always diggin' through
everybody's trash?
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Mr. Kindt, can you tell us
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if they think the girl is still alive?
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It's our hope that she's alive, yes.
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But again, I really can't discuss any
of the details of the investigation.
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Now, our detectives have a
pair of Xeroxes to pass out.
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One is a picture of Julie Purcell.
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The other is the kind of
backpack that the boy, Will, had.
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It's red and has his name on it.
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Now, if anyone has any
information of potential interest,
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no matter how far afield,
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share it with us.
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And trust that we will not
let this terrible, cowardly act
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go unpunished.
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Your old boss got
real vocal around then.
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Gerald Kindt had an election
comin' up the next year.
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I know. I guess that works to
some point in your petition.
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It's worth notin', I
think, his motivations.
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Well...
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now he's fuckin' State Attorney General.
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But we didn't work for
him. He was your boss.
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Oh, not for a good while now.
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The broken neck is clear.
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But the way the arms were folded...
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- I know.
- And the other thing.
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The hell are those dolls for?
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Correct. Look familiar, some way.
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Like the kind of thing at country fairs.
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What do you get from
that crowd in there?
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They're worried.
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Could be thinkin' it
coulda been a neighbor.
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Had 'em sign in. Saw some
shifty eyes in there, but...
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may be my redneck radar.
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I don't know.
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Excuse me.
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- Hi.
- Hey.
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You found him, didn't you?
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You look like you haven't
slept in a couple days.
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Work to do. How's it at school?
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Sad.
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People are scared.
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Well...
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been askin' about this.
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We haven't gotten anything.
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I don't know, you
knowin' the kids and such.
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You ever seen anything like this?
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Seen a kid with a doll like this?
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Uh, maybe. I don't know.
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Looks like something you'd find
in a craft store or something.
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I... I haven't seen any
of the kids with them.
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Can I keep this?
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Uh, sure.
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I'll ask around with the kids,
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maybe check with the other teachers.
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All right. Thanks.
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Uh...
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Amelia.
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- Okay, I gotta go.
- All right.
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Be safe.
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Now, this family...
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Haven't we spent enough with this?
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It's helpin' me.
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Bringin' things back.
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How's that?
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Your mother.
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I, uh...
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I have trouble seein' her sometimes.
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Or, uh... I know who she is,
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but the parts of our lives, pieces...
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I can't picture 'em.
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You think Mom wants
you to keep doin' this?
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It's bringin' things
back. Goin' over the case.
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I'm rememberin' things.
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My life. Your sister.
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You know when the last
time I saw Rebecca?
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Mom's funeral?
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I think you talked on the
phone a few months back.
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You sure you wanna keep
talkin' to the TV people?
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That woman, the director...
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I wanna know what she's after.
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What they might know now.
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She said she'd, uh, show
me somethin' next time.
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She's baitin' ya, Dad.
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Do you think she cares at
all about you or who did it?
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She just wants people
to watch her shitty show.
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And I think...
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Mom would want you to move on.
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Enjoy the family you have around you.
262
00:16:15,071 --> 00:16:17,486
Well...
263
00:16:17,488 --> 00:16:21,728
she and I always had different
ideas. I remember that.
264
00:16:27,988 --> 00:16:30,736
Wayne. Roland.
265
00:16:30,738 --> 00:16:34,069
Special Agents Burt
Diller and John Bowen.
266
00:16:34,071 --> 00:16:36,736
Thanks, Detective, we'll
get these back ASAP.
267
00:16:36,738 --> 00:16:38,403
Want you to know we have no intention
268
00:16:38,405 --> 00:16:41,173
of impeding or usurping
your investigation.
269
00:16:41,176 --> 00:16:43,119
This is a Task Force.
270
00:16:43,122 --> 00:16:45,569
One unit with a common goal.
271
00:16:45,571 --> 00:16:47,569
Feds are gonna take the
lead with the kidnappin'.
272
00:16:47,571 --> 00:16:50,240
You two are still point
on the death investigation.
273
00:16:50,243 --> 00:16:52,991
Both of which will hopefully
lead to the same solution.
274
00:16:52,994 --> 00:16:54,558
Everybody shares everything.
275
00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:57,194
We'll be doing debriefs
first thing every mornin'.
276
00:16:57,196 --> 00:16:58,717
Everybody turns in dailies.
277
00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,673
How you guys wanna go forward?
278
00:17:00,676 --> 00:17:03,370
We got a multi-state
APB out on the girl.
279
00:17:03,373 --> 00:17:06,165
Checkpoints along state
lines. Agents advised.
280
00:17:08,238 --> 00:17:11,822
Let us get caught up.
We'll figure our next move.
281
00:17:12,825 --> 00:17:14,527
Time?
282
00:17:14,530 --> 00:17:16,653
You two have somewhere to be?
283
00:17:16,655 --> 00:17:18,947
We got a funeral to get to.
284
00:17:42,613 --> 00:17:45,945
I know we spoke on the phone, but...
285
00:17:45,947 --> 00:17:48,319
want to touch base
on a couple of things.
286
00:17:48,321 --> 00:17:50,486
What's that?
287
00:17:50,488 --> 00:17:53,027
I haven't been out here since last May.
288
00:17:53,029 --> 00:17:55,277
You stayed in the boy,
Will's, room, right?
289
00:17:55,279 --> 00:17:57,111
Yeah. Told you I did.
290
00:17:57,113 --> 00:17:59,569
You leave a couple magazines behind?
291
00:17:59,571 --> 00:18:01,095
Under the mattress?
292
00:18:01,098 --> 00:18:04,902
Ohh, damn. Yeah, maybe I did.
293
00:18:04,905 --> 00:18:06,695
Should I, uh...
294
00:18:06,697 --> 00:18:09,486
- Never mind.
- You recall anything
295
00:18:09,488 --> 00:18:11,194
from the time you spent in the house
296
00:18:11,196 --> 00:18:12,945
might be worth mentioning?
297
00:18:12,947 --> 00:18:15,653
Like you ever see anybody
talkin' to the kids?
298
00:18:15,655 --> 00:18:17,945
Any adults you didn't recognize?
299
00:18:17,947 --> 00:18:22,152
Nah. Nah, can't say I
recall anything like that.
300
00:18:22,154 --> 00:18:25,069
Them kids, they kept
to themselves a lot.
301
00:18:25,071 --> 00:18:27,778
The house was a pretty tense place.
302
00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:31,027
You can probably tell, Lucy
and Tom aren't real happy.
303
00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:32,986
Before any of this.
304
00:18:32,988 --> 00:18:36,845
Will and Julie, they play
outside the house a lot?
305
00:18:36,848 --> 00:18:40,361
Yeah. I think so. I don't think
they liked being around there.
306
00:18:40,363 --> 00:18:44,444
You know, Mom and Dad
angry all the time.
307
00:18:51,279 --> 00:18:53,528
Were you pretty close to Will and Julie?
308
00:18:53,530 --> 00:18:56,653
I don't know. We got along.
309
00:18:56,655 --> 00:18:59,695
I played with them a couple times.
310
00:18:59,697 --> 00:19:02,403
They didn't see me much
before I stayed here.
311
00:19:02,405 --> 00:19:04,111
But they were good kids.
312
00:19:04,113 --> 00:19:06,321
What do you think of Tom?
313
00:19:09,029 --> 00:19:11,569
He's an all right guy.
314
00:19:11,571 --> 00:19:13,666
I feel sorry for him.
315
00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:16,085
I felt for him even before all this.
316
00:19:18,071 --> 00:19:20,069
I mean, in my opinion,
317
00:19:20,071 --> 00:19:22,738
Lucy always needed, like, a strong male.
318
00:19:25,571 --> 00:19:27,986
You stayin' in town long?
319
00:19:27,988 --> 00:19:30,236
Nah, I gotta get back to work.
320
00:19:30,238 --> 00:19:33,069
Family could probably use you around.
321
00:19:33,071 --> 00:19:34,736
I can't get the time off.
322
00:19:34,738 --> 00:19:37,736
It's not like there's
a lot I can do for 'em.
323
00:19:37,738 --> 00:19:39,361
And the night of?
324
00:19:39,363 --> 00:19:42,071
Your neighbor can
confirm you were at home?
325
00:19:45,655 --> 00:19:47,611
I don't know if they can or not.
326
00:19:47,613 --> 00:19:50,403
But you could check with the
Starlight Bar in Springfield.
327
00:19:50,405 --> 00:19:52,986
I had a couple there after
work, and then I went home
328
00:19:52,988 --> 00:19:55,277
and watched CHiPs.
329
00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:57,695
You wanna search my place?
330
00:19:57,697 --> 00:19:59,470
Would that be okay?
331
00:20:00,849 --> 00:20:02,224
Sure.
332
00:20:03,612 --> 00:20:05,068
But maybe...
333
00:20:05,071 --> 00:20:07,822
you should be out there
tryin' to find my niece.
334
00:20:11,238 --> 00:20:13,321
I'm gonna get back to Lucy.
335
00:20:19,446 --> 00:20:22,152
Like we said over the phone,
336
00:20:22,154 --> 00:20:26,444
we hadn't seen or talked with
the kids since last Christmas.
337
00:20:26,446 --> 00:20:29,238
Nearly a year ago.
338
00:20:30,613 --> 00:20:32,152
She doesn't like us.
339
00:20:32,154 --> 00:20:33,695
That's Lucy, you mean?
340
00:20:33,697 --> 00:20:36,064
'Loise, let's don't, now.
341
00:20:36,067 --> 00:20:37,732
Why not now?
342
00:20:37,735 --> 00:20:41,193
Why not just say it?
The children are lost.
343
00:20:41,196 --> 00:20:43,444
Yes, I mean Lucy.
344
00:20:43,446 --> 00:20:45,569
She runs around on Tom, you know.
345
00:20:45,571 --> 00:20:47,903
Every marriage has its own story.
346
00:20:47,905 --> 00:20:50,236
Nobody knows except the two involved.
347
00:20:50,238 --> 00:20:52,530
Bull. She was a terrible...
348
00:20:53,613 --> 00:20:55,319
You know,
349
00:20:55,321 --> 00:20:58,653
there's been some wonderin' about Julie.
350
00:20:58,655 --> 00:21:00,236
Don't. Not today.
351
00:21:00,238 --> 00:21:01,820
Tom was workin' offshore.
352
00:21:01,822 --> 00:21:04,725
Could have been weldin' in
Texas when Julie was conceived.
353
00:21:04,728 --> 00:21:08,319
- Now, I've wondered...
- Goddamnit!!!
354
00:21:08,321 --> 00:21:11,780
Not today, Eloise. Not today.
355
00:21:14,738 --> 00:21:17,029
Hey.
356
00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:22,363
Why don't the two of y'all
get out of my house for today?
357
00:21:24,227 --> 00:21:25,894
Mom, Dad.
358
00:21:42,196 --> 00:21:44,528
Yes, I got it now.
359
00:21:44,530 --> 00:21:46,194
There's a web forum that posts
360
00:21:46,196 --> 00:21:47,736
about real-life criminal cases,
361
00:21:47,738 --> 00:21:50,528
things that are unsolved or unresolved.
362
00:21:50,530 --> 00:21:53,154
They have a whole section
on the Purcell case.
363
00:21:57,530 --> 00:22:00,029
This is what people do now?
364
00:22:01,655 --> 00:22:04,403
They go in lots of directions.
365
00:22:04,405 --> 00:22:06,403
Did you know at various times since,
366
00:22:06,405 --> 00:22:08,986
large-scale pedophile rings
connected to people of influence
367
00:22:08,988 --> 00:22:10,861
were uncovered in the surrounding areas?
368
00:22:10,863 --> 00:22:13,405
Do you know about the Franklin scandal?
369
00:22:14,613 --> 00:22:16,778
No.
370
00:22:16,780 --> 00:22:18,569
It's been theorized that the straw dolls
371
00:22:18,571 --> 00:22:22,403
are a sign of pedophile
groups, like the crooked spiral.
372
00:22:22,412 --> 00:22:24,453
I don't think that's right.
373
00:22:28,154 --> 00:22:32,736
Can I ask, with what happened in
1990 and you leaving the force,
374
00:22:32,738 --> 00:22:34,941
did you ever feel
your leads and theories
375
00:22:34,944 --> 00:22:37,025
were discounted because of your race?
376
00:22:38,196 --> 00:22:41,778
Not particularly, no. Why?
377
00:22:41,780 --> 00:22:44,861
I'm interested in the
intersectionality of marginalized groups
378
00:22:44,863 --> 00:22:48,405
within authoritarian and
systemic racist structures.
379
00:22:54,488 --> 00:22:57,194
Well, anyways, those...
Those dolls from the scene,
380
00:22:57,196 --> 00:22:59,027
they were a significant lead.
381
00:22:59,029 --> 00:23:02,986
Amelia. She's the one
helped us out with that.
382
00:23:02,988 --> 00:23:04,780
Got us that lead.
383
00:23:14,405 --> 00:23:17,986
Have you seen a doll
that looks like this?
384
00:23:17,988 --> 00:23:19,945
- No.
- Not you?
385
00:23:19,947 --> 00:23:22,488
Okay, well, you let me
know if you do, okay?
386
00:23:36,405 --> 00:23:37,945
Mike.
387
00:23:37,947 --> 00:23:40,947
Have you seen this doll before?
388
00:23:42,196 --> 00:23:44,569
H-Halloween.
389
00:23:44,571 --> 00:23:47,986
Somebody was passing them
out at trick-or-treat,
390
00:23:47,988 --> 00:23:49,154
I think.
391
00:23:50,905 --> 00:23:53,653
Julie... she got one.
392
00:23:53,655 --> 00:23:58,611
This Halloween you went
trick-or-treating with her?
393
00:23:58,613 --> 00:24:02,611
We met her and her brother
and... and some other kids.
394
00:24:02,613 --> 00:24:05,697
We live on the next street over.
395
00:24:09,196 --> 00:24:10,738
It's okay.
396
00:24:30,405 --> 00:24:32,027
Tom?
397
00:24:32,029 --> 00:24:34,069
Tom!
398
00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:35,550
Tom!
399
00:24:36,530 --> 00:24:38,361
Hey, what... what...
400
00:24:38,363 --> 00:24:40,236
What ya doin' back up here, brother?
401
00:24:40,238 --> 00:24:41,695
'Talkin' about?
402
00:24:41,697 --> 00:24:44,154
This is my usual shift. Four years.
403
00:24:54,397 --> 00:24:57,897
What's you're fuckin'
problem? My dick showin'?
404
00:25:03,113 --> 00:25:05,027
Hey, Tom.
405
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:08,069
You sure you wanna
be back at work today?
406
00:25:08,071 --> 00:25:11,863
I been workin' full-time
since I was fourteen years old.
407
00:25:13,655 --> 00:25:17,238
You want me to sit at home
with this shit in my head now?
408
00:25:21,947 --> 00:25:24,820
How long you motherfuckers
gonna stare at me?!
409
00:25:24,822 --> 00:25:28,444
Somebody got something to say about me?!
410
00:25:28,446 --> 00:25:30,403
My family?!
411
00:25:30,405 --> 00:25:32,236
Huh?! Somebody know somethin' I don't...
412
00:25:32,238 --> 00:25:35,236
Tom? Hi.
413
00:25:35,238 --> 00:25:38,569
We didn't plan on havin'
you back this soon.
414
00:25:38,571 --> 00:25:40,820
Well, I gotta earn a livin'.
415
00:25:40,822 --> 00:25:44,486
Well, the thing is, we, uh...
416
00:25:44,488 --> 00:25:46,444
we put you on leave.
417
00:25:46,446 --> 00:25:48,027
Well, I didn't ask for that, okay?
418
00:25:48,029 --> 00:25:51,569
Now, I gotta work. You
tellin' me I can't work?
419
00:25:51,571 --> 00:25:54,509
Look, with everything that's happenin',
420
00:25:54,512 --> 00:25:55,947
it's a little disruptive.
421
00:25:57,237 --> 00:25:59,777
People have other things on their mind?
422
00:25:59,780 --> 00:26:01,486
These machines?
423
00:26:01,488 --> 00:26:04,446
That's how accidents
happen. You know that, Tom.
424
00:26:06,321 --> 00:26:08,822
I'm the guy nobody wants to be, huh?
425
00:26:12,530 --> 00:26:14,863
I'm the fuckin' joke, right?
426
00:26:16,029 --> 00:26:18,653
You shouldn't look at it like that.
427
00:26:18,655 --> 00:26:21,863
But you ain't comin' back
to work right now, Tom.
428
00:26:26,321 --> 00:26:29,152
Well, fuck everything, anyway!
429
00:26:29,154 --> 00:26:31,861
Yeah, fuck each of ya!
430
00:26:31,863 --> 00:26:34,154
I quit!
431
00:26:39,146 --> 00:26:41,939
You remember which house
was givin' these out?
432
00:26:43,780 --> 00:26:45,863
Who else got one?
433
00:26:50,313 --> 00:26:52,311
Mike...
434
00:26:52,321 --> 00:26:54,697
did you see her get the doll?
435
00:26:56,363 --> 00:26:57,986
No, ma'am.
436
00:26:57,988 --> 00:27:00,486
When did you see she had it?
437
00:27:00,488 --> 00:27:02,486
It was like at the end.
438
00:27:02,488 --> 00:27:05,027
We were all showing what we got,
439
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:07,548
and she had the doll in
her trick-or-treat bag.
440
00:27:07,551 --> 00:27:09,340
Did you stay in the neighborhood,
441
00:27:09,343 --> 00:27:11,132
or did you drive somewhere?
442
00:27:11,135 --> 00:27:13,219
We just walked.
443
00:27:15,697 --> 00:27:19,029
Thanks, Mike. You're really helpin'.
444
00:27:20,196 --> 00:27:21,436
Hey.
445
00:27:21,439 --> 00:27:23,486
What'd you go as for Halloween?
446
00:27:23,488 --> 00:27:25,444
Luke Skywalker.
447
00:27:25,446 --> 00:27:26,986
Cool, man.
448
00:27:26,988 --> 00:27:29,571
My partner, he loved that movie.
449
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:50,403
Say...
450
00:27:50,405 --> 00:27:52,903
were you with Julie and
her brother the whole night?
451
00:27:52,905 --> 00:27:57,444
Or was there ever a time
y'all went different ways?
452
00:27:57,446 --> 00:28:02,236
Yeah. They'd been to a couple
houses before we met up.
453
00:28:02,238 --> 00:28:05,569
But I don't think she had the doll then.
454
00:28:05,571 --> 00:28:08,194
How 'bout the rest of the night?
455
00:28:08,196 --> 00:28:12,069
We mighta split up once or twice.
456
00:28:12,071 --> 00:28:14,986
But... not for long.
457
00:28:14,988 --> 00:28:17,444
I saw her talking to people.
458
00:28:17,446 --> 00:28:19,279
Adults, maybe.
459
00:28:20,405 --> 00:28:22,236
They were two ghosts.
460
00:28:22,238 --> 00:28:24,238
Just in big sheets.
461
00:28:26,063 --> 00:28:28,605
You don't know who the ghosts were?
462
00:28:31,321 --> 00:28:34,113
Can you show us where it was y'all went?
463
00:28:36,405 --> 00:28:37,571
Here.
464
00:29:18,821 --> 00:29:21,318
You musta had some good times.
465
00:29:21,321 --> 00:29:25,319
- When y'all meet?
- Hmm...
466
00:29:25,321 --> 00:29:29,027
thirteen years back.
467
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:31,988
We got married 'cause she was pregnant.
468
00:29:33,988 --> 00:29:36,695
How long you knew her before?
469
00:29:36,697 --> 00:29:38,571
Not long.
470
00:29:40,029 --> 00:29:43,403
Got married three months after we met.
471
00:29:43,405 --> 00:29:46,528
The Fort Smith courthouse.
472
00:29:46,530 --> 00:29:48,666
Me and Lucy, we...
473
00:29:48,669 --> 00:29:53,548
We never really knew each other,
we just... well, had the kids.
474
00:29:59,780 --> 00:30:01,736
My kids. Will and...
475
00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:18,863
Are we gonna find Julie, or what?
476
00:30:20,446 --> 00:30:24,152
'Cause I can't live through this, man.
477
00:30:24,154 --> 00:30:27,279
Neither of us can.
478
00:30:30,238 --> 00:30:33,363
If we're not gonna find
her, I just need to know now.
479
00:30:38,939 --> 00:30:41,937
I can't go to sleep...
480
00:30:43,530 --> 00:30:45,738
...and I can't wake up.
481
00:30:48,738 --> 00:30:51,569
Now, you're sayin' last week, Halloween,
482
00:30:51,571 --> 00:30:52,903
girl got one of these dolls,
483
00:30:52,905 --> 00:30:55,027
and then you found two of
them at the crime scene?
484
00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:57,111
It's an identifier, boss.
485
00:30:57,113 --> 00:30:58,903
So what do you want to do?
486
00:30:58,905 --> 00:31:02,820
We wondered maybe let's put
it out on the TV or paper.
487
00:31:02,822 --> 00:31:05,186
Ask everybody if they seen one of those,
488
00:31:05,189 --> 00:31:07,736
or know who makes 'em around here.
489
00:31:07,738 --> 00:31:10,986
But that'd tip our hand.
We're not ready for that.
490
00:31:10,989 --> 00:31:12,280
What's better...
491
00:31:12,283 --> 00:31:15,111
There's 114 households
in the marked area
492
00:31:15,113 --> 00:31:16,820
and the subdivision near it.
493
00:31:16,822 --> 00:31:18,444
We do total surveillance.
494
00:31:18,446 --> 00:31:21,152
We have people searchin'
every single house.
495
00:31:21,154 --> 00:31:24,277
Oh, come on. You don't have enough
for one warrant, much less a hundred.
496
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:28,027
No warrants. Say, two days, maybe three.
497
00:31:28,029 --> 00:31:30,199
Every detective we have.
498
00:31:30,202 --> 00:31:32,366
Pull in more feds, you want.
499
00:31:32,369 --> 00:31:35,069
Everybody just knocks and
asks if they can search.
500
00:31:35,071 --> 00:31:37,653
Say it'll help with the Purcell case.
501
00:31:37,655 --> 00:31:40,111
People won't like it...
502
00:31:40,113 --> 00:31:42,194
but a lot, I bet...
503
00:31:42,196 --> 00:31:44,069
a lot of people let us look around.
504
00:31:44,071 --> 00:31:46,069
We keep surveillance.
505
00:31:46,071 --> 00:31:48,236
See if somebody starts actin' hinky.
506
00:31:48,238 --> 00:31:51,163
Nobody escapes the net.
Our guy panics or somethin',
507
00:31:51,166 --> 00:31:53,416
we do it fast... Without announcement.
508
00:31:53,419 --> 00:31:54,944
Even if you find anything,
509
00:31:54,947 --> 00:31:56,820
it could be problematic at trial.
510
00:31:56,822 --> 00:31:58,642
This is about the girl, not a trial.
511
00:31:59,791 --> 00:32:02,111
Something happened on
Halloween, that night.
512
00:32:02,113 --> 00:32:03,903
She gets that doll.
513
00:32:03,905 --> 00:32:05,778
A week later, she and
her brother are gone,
514
00:32:05,780 --> 00:32:07,695
and you got two of those
things on the scene.
515
00:32:07,697 --> 00:32:10,053
Maybe the perp just
brought 'em somewhere.
516
00:32:10,056 --> 00:32:12,486
You know? Maybe the dolls
belonged to the girl.
517
00:32:12,488 --> 00:32:16,152
It's all maybes, man. You do
the maybe that gives you a shot.
518
00:32:16,154 --> 00:32:18,119
No, it's thin.
519
00:32:18,122 --> 00:32:22,194
And our constituents here, they
value privacy and property rights.
520
00:32:22,196 --> 00:32:24,361
They aren't just gonna acquiesce
521
00:32:24,363 --> 00:32:26,822
to random searches of their homes.
522
00:32:27,939 --> 00:32:29,860
There's other ways to approach it.
523
00:32:29,863 --> 00:32:32,861
If we bring in the public,
it stirs up the town
524
00:32:32,863 --> 00:32:35,027
and lets our guy know
what we're thinkin'.
525
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:38,697
Maybe he takes off. Maybe he just
kills her... if he hasn't already.
526
00:32:40,822 --> 00:32:43,444
We can just do it fast.
527
00:32:43,446 --> 00:32:45,863
People will get over it.
528
00:32:48,462 --> 00:32:49,695
Warren.
529
00:32:49,697 --> 00:32:51,905
Just give us some time, Roland.
530
00:33:17,905 --> 00:33:19,945
Been runnin' this sting.
531
00:33:19,947 --> 00:33:22,903
Truck stop next door. Prosts and drugs.
532
00:33:22,905 --> 00:33:25,444
I was gonna check this
guy out at some point.
533
00:33:25,446 --> 00:33:28,194
He asked one of the workin' girls
534
00:33:28,196 --> 00:33:29,736
if they had any younger friends.
535
00:33:29,738 --> 00:33:32,611
And another said he asked her, too.
536
00:33:32,613 --> 00:33:36,194
Came in here lookin'
for special magazines.
537
00:33:36,197 --> 00:33:38,897
Ted LaGrange. Pulled his file.
538
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:41,069
He got outta Wrightsville a while back.
539
00:33:41,071 --> 00:33:42,748
Carnal knowledge of a minor.
540
00:33:42,751 --> 00:33:45,905
Enticing a minor. Buncha shit.
541
00:33:48,238 --> 00:33:51,488
Callin' himself "Robert" somethin' now.
542
00:33:52,613 --> 00:33:54,113
Thanks, Rich.
543
00:33:55,905 --> 00:33:58,945
Man...
544
00:33:58,947 --> 00:34:01,613
you gotta come in here every day?
545
00:34:03,446 --> 00:34:05,446
Welcome to Vice.
546
00:34:15,947 --> 00:34:18,986
♪ I love my man ♪
547
00:34:18,988 --> 00:34:22,446
♪ I'm a liar if I say I don't ♪
548
00:34:25,405 --> 00:34:27,861
♪ I love my man ♪
549
00:34:27,863 --> 00:34:31,319
♪ I'm a liar if I say I don't... ♪
550
00:34:31,321 --> 00:34:34,528
I haven't seen you here before, have I?
551
00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:37,611
I'm usually at the VFW.
552
00:34:37,613 --> 00:34:40,528
♪ I'm a liar if I say I won't... ♪
553
00:34:40,530 --> 00:34:44,820
Want to thank you for everything
you did today with the kid.
554
00:34:44,822 --> 00:34:48,736
He wasn't talkin' to us
'til you opened him up.
555
00:34:48,738 --> 00:34:51,277
Real grateful for that.
556
00:34:51,279 --> 00:34:54,653
He was broken up about it.
557
00:34:54,655 --> 00:34:57,488
I think he had a crush on Julie.
558
00:34:58,863 --> 00:35:01,653
Why'd you give me that picture?
559
00:35:01,655 --> 00:35:03,986
The doll.
560
00:35:03,988 --> 00:35:06,653
Instinct, I guess.
561
00:35:06,655 --> 00:35:09,196
I knew the kids weren't talkin' to us.
562
00:35:11,196 --> 00:35:13,196
You were in the war?
563
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:16,695
You're a cop,
564
00:35:16,697 --> 00:35:20,444
so you want to know more about a
person, you just look 'em up, huh?
565
00:35:20,446 --> 00:35:22,363
Pretty much.
566
00:35:23,363 --> 00:35:25,530
Did you look me up?
567
00:35:29,780 --> 00:35:31,822
Thought about it, though.
568
00:35:38,154 --> 00:35:40,569
I was born here.
569
00:35:40,571 --> 00:35:43,111
I went to U of A.
570
00:35:43,113 --> 00:35:46,319
Dropped out my junior year.
571
00:35:46,321 --> 00:35:48,778
Went west with a friend.
572
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:50,736
We got in with some people.
573
00:35:50,738 --> 00:35:53,238
I was in this scene, San Francisco.
574
00:35:55,071 --> 00:35:59,905
Anti-war, kind of fringe Panther stuff.
575
00:36:01,196 --> 00:36:04,403
Some things happened, not good.
576
00:36:04,405 --> 00:36:07,653
And then I was alone.
577
00:36:07,655 --> 00:36:12,071
'74, I came back home, got my degree.
578
00:36:17,196 --> 00:36:19,196
I grew up in Conway.
579
00:36:20,238 --> 00:36:22,071
My mom worked on a farm.
580
00:36:23,405 --> 00:36:26,236
I spent two years in the jungle,
581
00:36:26,238 --> 00:36:28,238
a lot of it I was alone.
582
00:36:29,947 --> 00:36:33,363
I hunt a lot now. Alone.
583
00:36:34,697 --> 00:36:37,386
I'm a vegetarian.
584
00:36:37,389 --> 00:36:39,611
That's a real shame.
585
00:36:39,613 --> 00:36:42,738
If you're a Democrat, don't tell me.
586
00:36:46,613 --> 00:36:48,488
You like teachin'?
587
00:36:49,780 --> 00:36:51,780
Sometimes.
588
00:36:52,947 --> 00:36:56,111
I want to be a writer.
589
00:36:56,113 --> 00:36:57,780
Write books.
590
00:36:59,279 --> 00:37:01,736
I don't read enough.
591
00:37:01,738 --> 00:37:04,446
I like Batman and Silver Surfer.
592
00:37:05,947 --> 00:37:10,361
I had this sorta
dyslexic thing growin' up.
593
00:37:10,363 --> 00:37:12,569
Was that hard?
594
00:37:12,571 --> 00:37:14,861
They said I was dumb.
595
00:37:14,863 --> 00:37:17,863
My mom wasn't havin' any of that.
596
00:37:20,697 --> 00:37:24,319
That poem you were
teachin'. I looked it up.
597
00:37:24,321 --> 00:37:27,403
- Oh, yeah?
- I read it.
598
00:37:27,405 --> 00:37:30,613
I'm not ready to talk about
it yet, but I have thoughts.
599
00:37:31,947 --> 00:37:34,822
- Share when you want.
- All right.
600
00:37:37,154 --> 00:37:39,319
You ever been married?
601
00:37:39,321 --> 00:37:40,697
No.
602
00:37:42,405 --> 00:37:43,486
You?
603
00:37:43,488 --> 00:37:46,321
I was engaged. Seven months.
604
00:37:47,613 --> 00:37:49,236
I broke it off.
605
00:37:49,238 --> 00:37:51,611
I didn't want to be married, I realized.
606
00:37:51,613 --> 00:37:55,613
- I don't wanna get married.
- No?
607
00:37:58,113 --> 00:38:01,528
Guy the other day said I must be crazy.
608
00:38:01,530 --> 00:38:07,653
Thing is, and I've thought
of this for a while...
609
00:38:07,655 --> 00:38:10,528
I think I might be.
610
00:38:10,530 --> 00:38:12,363
Like how?
611
00:38:17,530 --> 00:38:20,027
I wear clip-on ties
'cause I'm preoccupied
612
00:38:20,029 --> 00:38:22,528
with this idea of getting
strangled with one.
613
00:38:25,613 --> 00:38:27,530
Is that too much?
614
00:38:30,571 --> 00:38:33,194
This year, twice,
615
00:38:33,196 --> 00:38:35,194
I've been to St. Louis
616
00:38:35,196 --> 00:38:37,528
and I've stayed at this hotel,
617
00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:40,194
and I've pretended I'm someone else.
618
00:38:40,196 --> 00:38:44,820
I go out, meet new people,
and I am someone else.
619
00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:49,403
Different name, different
background, different job.
620
00:38:49,405 --> 00:38:50,900
Twice.
621
00:38:53,321 --> 00:38:55,447
Hmm.
622
00:38:59,238 --> 00:39:02,403
You drink too much?
623
00:39:02,405 --> 00:39:04,903
I don't know.
624
00:39:04,905 --> 00:39:07,446
I might get drunk twice a month.
625
00:39:09,029 --> 00:39:11,611
Three times.
626
00:39:11,613 --> 00:39:14,736
I like to laugh, is the thing.
627
00:39:16,530 --> 00:39:19,986
Hey. Raise it up?
628
00:39:19,988 --> 00:39:24,027
Hurry. Quick.
629
00:39:24,029 --> 00:39:27,027
...information in the
Purcell murder-kidnapping,
630
00:39:27,029 --> 00:39:28,820
we go to the Washington
County courthouse
631
00:39:28,823 --> 00:39:31,277
- earlier this afternoon.
- Don't do it.
632
00:39:31,279 --> 00:39:33,149
We believe the missing girl,
633
00:39:33,152 --> 00:39:36,111
Julie Purcell, was
contacted by her abductor
634
00:39:36,113 --> 00:39:38,839
while she participated
in Halloween last week.
635
00:39:38,842 --> 00:39:41,299
We're sharing a graphic
636
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:44,613
of the area where she and her
brother went trick-or-treating.
637
00:39:44,616 --> 00:39:46,495
Now, our investigation suggests
638
00:39:46,498 --> 00:39:48,444
that someone who saw her on Halloween
639
00:39:48,446 --> 00:39:50,485
has special knowledge of this case.
640
00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:53,736
- Givin' it away.
- Anyone who saw anything suspicious...
641
00:39:53,738 --> 00:39:56,902
- What's wrong?
- I'm sorry, I...
642
00:39:56,905 --> 00:39:59,542
I gotta go. Goddamnit.
643
00:39:59,545 --> 00:40:02,194
Are you saying the children
knew their kidnapper?
644
00:40:02,196 --> 00:40:06,019
I'm not at liberty to
reveal that at this time.
645
00:40:09,488 --> 00:40:12,361
I knew they wouldn't listen to me.
646
00:40:12,363 --> 00:40:14,986
But you shoulda stopped that.
647
00:40:14,988 --> 00:40:18,695
Me? What am I supposed to do?
648
00:40:18,697 --> 00:40:20,319
You were there.
649
00:40:20,321 --> 00:40:23,695
I'm sayin', I talk,
it don't mean anything.
650
00:40:23,697 --> 00:40:26,069
Don't matter if I'm right.
651
00:40:26,071 --> 00:40:29,069
You, at least, you talk,
it means somethin' to 'em.
652
00:40:29,071 --> 00:40:30,653
Might consider what you're saying.
653
00:40:30,655 --> 00:40:32,111
You mighta stopped 'em from doing that.
654
00:40:32,113 --> 00:40:35,303
Bullshit. Who knew
until it was on the TV?
655
00:40:35,306 --> 00:40:36,820
Why didn't you stop 'em?
656
00:40:36,822 --> 00:40:40,277
They ain't my tribe, man.
Take care of your shit.
657
00:40:40,279 --> 00:40:43,027
Tribe? Where you think you are, asshole?
658
00:40:43,029 --> 00:40:44,814
- I know where I am.
- Do ya?
659
00:40:44,817 --> 00:40:46,470
It don't sound like it.
660
00:40:46,473 --> 00:40:49,695
Son, I know where I am in a
way you will never understand.
661
00:40:49,697 --> 00:40:51,444
Are you high, Purple Hays?
662
00:40:51,446 --> 00:40:53,695
'Cause you're makin'
about as much goddamn sense
663
00:40:53,697 --> 00:40:55,277
as my grandmother's dementia.
664
00:40:55,279 --> 00:40:56,820
No, I'm sayin' I know where I am.
665
00:40:56,822 --> 00:40:58,655
Hey, good for you.
666
00:41:26,530 --> 00:41:28,863
Was all I could think of.
667
00:41:31,405 --> 00:41:33,113
You got somethin' else?
668
00:41:35,113 --> 00:41:38,945
Vice gave me a dude near
Fort Smith to look at.
669
00:41:38,947 --> 00:41:40,738
I pulled his file.
670
00:41:42,425 --> 00:41:43,759
What is it?
671
00:41:49,196 --> 00:41:51,571
You can read for yourself.
672
00:42:03,405 --> 00:42:05,571
You wanna go get him?
673
00:42:08,321 --> 00:42:10,446
I wanna go get him.
674
00:42:11,863 --> 00:42:15,152
We might as well keep watch out here.
675
00:42:15,154 --> 00:42:17,853
Check the guy out in the mornin'.
676
00:42:17,856 --> 00:42:19,690
Toss his place first.
677
00:42:27,988 --> 00:42:29,822
We should get bennies.
678
00:42:32,154 --> 00:42:34,321
Stayin' up all night.
679
00:42:36,154 --> 00:42:39,113
Glove box. Red-and-blue ones.
680
00:42:42,154 --> 00:42:44,903
Prosecutin' attorney decided...
681
00:42:44,905 --> 00:42:48,194
best thing was to take our single clue
682
00:42:48,197 --> 00:42:50,489
and spread it all over the town.
683
00:42:52,363 --> 00:42:55,861
And that got us a few hundred
false tips the first coupla days.
684
00:42:55,863 --> 00:42:59,111
That's when it all
started with the town.
685
00:42:59,113 --> 00:43:00,488
Just panic.
686
00:43:06,113 --> 00:43:10,196
Lived in their
imaginations now, you see?
687
00:43:28,571 --> 00:43:31,152
Everybody was scared.
688
00:43:31,169 --> 00:43:33,253
That included us.
689
00:43:51,238 --> 00:43:52,488
Hi.
690
00:43:53,857 --> 00:43:55,773
Mornin'.
691
00:43:55,776 --> 00:43:59,152
♪ And I'll never
make you sad again ♪
692
00:43:59,154 --> 00:44:02,403
♪ 'Cause I swear... ♪
693
00:44:02,405 --> 00:44:04,027
You gonna eat?
694
00:44:04,029 --> 00:44:07,238
♪ And I'll never make you sorry... ♪
695
00:44:08,105 --> 00:44:09,938
Me neither.
696
00:44:12,571 --> 00:44:15,113
We need you to come with us, sir.
697
00:44:17,571 --> 00:44:19,061
Uh, wha... what's the...
698
00:44:19,064 --> 00:44:21,736
We'll tell ya on the way.
699
00:44:21,738 --> 00:44:25,778
No! Please!
700
00:44:25,780 --> 00:44:28,569
No, it's not me, I swear to God!
701
00:44:28,571 --> 00:44:30,277
You're wrong about this.
702
00:44:30,279 --> 00:44:32,403
You shouldn't have brought me here.
703
00:44:32,405 --> 00:44:34,736
This get you off, mister, huh?
704
00:44:34,738 --> 00:44:37,613
You entertain fantasies of
strappin' white men to posts?
705
00:44:39,154 --> 00:44:41,571
- Now and then, yeah.
- Really?
706
00:44:42,696 --> 00:44:44,819
Uhh!
707
00:44:44,822 --> 00:44:46,820
Talk about your fantasies.
708
00:44:46,822 --> 00:44:48,564
Then he'll tell ya his.
709
00:44:48,567 --> 00:44:51,360
Theodore LaGrange.
710
00:44:51,363 --> 00:44:53,611
It's Ted, yeah?
711
00:44:53,613 --> 00:44:55,822
Ted, you been out a bit over two years.
712
00:44:55,825 --> 00:44:59,094
I know what you're doing,
and I haven't done anything.
713
00:44:59,097 --> 00:45:00,803
Released from Wrightsville.
714
00:45:00,806 --> 00:45:03,444
You got Little Rock up the road.
715
00:45:03,446 --> 00:45:05,947
Why'd you come way out here, Ted?
716
00:45:07,655 --> 00:45:10,444
And why you callin'
yourself Robert Hebert?
717
00:45:10,446 --> 00:45:13,236
I-I wanted a new start.
718
00:45:13,238 --> 00:45:15,947
They keep you in protective
custody in Wrightsville?
719
00:45:17,438 --> 00:45:19,355
Hmm. Figured.
720
00:45:20,530 --> 00:45:22,861
Guys who mess with kids,
721
00:45:22,863 --> 00:45:25,611
they don't usually make it
out with all their parts.
722
00:45:25,613 --> 00:45:27,695
Tell me how you mess with kids.
723
00:45:27,697 --> 00:45:29,653
The boy and the girl.
724
00:45:29,655 --> 00:45:32,486
Your landlady said you didn't
come home last Friday night.
725
00:45:32,489 --> 00:45:33,962
- What?
- The 7th.
726
00:45:33,965 --> 00:45:37,126
That's not... I was
out. I-I was just out.
727
00:45:37,129 --> 00:45:39,960
Help me understand what it
was like for you in the moment.
728
00:45:39,963 --> 00:45:42,611
Let me feel your side of it. Okay?
729
00:45:42,613 --> 00:45:45,027
Tell me why you killed the boy.
730
00:45:45,029 --> 00:45:48,528
I didn't! I never seen him
before he was on the news.
731
00:45:52,905 --> 00:45:55,655
You'll wanna explain to me
where you were that night.
732
00:45:57,697 --> 00:46:01,653
Help me see your side of things.
733
00:46:01,655 --> 00:46:04,361
What'd you do on Halloween
night? Where were you?
734
00:46:08,071 --> 00:46:10,403
Well...
735
00:46:10,405 --> 00:46:13,820
we're here to listen
when you want to share.
736
00:46:13,822 --> 00:46:17,611
Aaaaah!
737
00:46:39,486 --> 00:46:40,695
Yes.
738
00:46:40,697 --> 00:46:42,569
He's here Mondays and Fridays.
739
00:46:42,571 --> 00:46:45,111
We do storytime twice
a week in the evenin's,
740
00:46:45,113 --> 00:46:46,695
and he plays guitar for it.
741
00:46:46,697 --> 00:46:50,361
But his name's Robert
Hebert, not what you said.
742
00:46:50,363 --> 00:46:52,528
And he worked on the 7th? Last Friday?
743
00:46:52,530 --> 00:46:53,778
Yes. Mm-hmm.
744
00:46:53,780 --> 00:46:55,653
You know what time he left that night?
745
00:46:55,655 --> 00:46:57,695
Probably about 8:00 or after.
746
00:46:57,697 --> 00:47:01,277
He helped us put up
the tables and chairs.
747
00:47:01,279 --> 00:47:02,861
Did he do something?
748
00:47:02,863 --> 00:47:06,071
You're not gonna see this guy anymore.
749
00:47:07,537 --> 00:47:09,537
If you do, give us a call, okay?
750
00:47:15,279 --> 00:47:17,486
Robbery was a coupla months ago.
751
00:47:17,488 --> 00:47:20,569
All I know for sure is
that her prints showed up.
752
00:47:20,571 --> 00:47:22,444
It's like you said...
753
00:47:22,446 --> 00:47:24,695
They don't know if she was a customer
754
00:47:24,697 --> 00:47:26,653
or part of the break-in.
755
00:47:26,655 --> 00:47:28,986
Was it a partial or a full?
756
00:47:28,988 --> 00:47:30,238
Full.
757
00:47:31,405 --> 00:47:32,780
It was her.
758
00:47:34,947 --> 00:47:36,595
They had video surveillance?
759
00:47:36,598 --> 00:47:38,861
They smashed the camera in the pharmacy.
760
00:47:38,863 --> 00:47:41,236
Store's got footage goin'
back three days prior.
761
00:47:41,238 --> 00:47:43,986
We subpoenaed it, but we have to wait.
762
00:47:43,988 --> 00:47:46,611
Somebody watchin' the store
in case she comes back?
763
00:47:46,613 --> 00:47:50,277
My understandin', Sallisaw
PD's focused on the robbery.
764
00:47:50,279 --> 00:47:52,289
And I wouldn't say the locals are a
765
00:47:52,290 --> 00:47:55,360
crackerjack investigative
team or anything.
766
00:47:55,363 --> 00:47:57,027
So nothin'.
767
00:47:57,029 --> 00:47:59,069
Man's family didn't have the resources
768
00:47:59,071 --> 00:48:00,446
for an investigator...
769
00:48:01,780 --> 00:48:04,321
but obviously, we'd like to find her.
770
00:48:10,530 --> 00:48:13,736
What about Arkansas PD?
They lookin' for her?
771
00:48:13,738 --> 00:48:15,603
There's nobody on the case yet.
772
00:48:15,606 --> 00:48:17,548
Kindt's office will have to look at it
773
00:48:17,551 --> 00:48:19,902
since they'll be defending
our motion to overturn,
774
00:48:19,905 --> 00:48:22,403
but right now, no.
775
00:48:22,405 --> 00:48:24,611
I don't think so.
776
00:48:24,613 --> 00:48:27,655
You all right goin' up
against your old boss?
777
00:48:29,196 --> 00:48:31,154
It's overdue.
778
00:48:43,738 --> 00:48:45,152
Talk to Roland?
779
00:48:45,154 --> 00:48:47,363
We have an appointment.
780
00:48:48,655 --> 00:48:50,613
He's done well.
781
00:48:52,154 --> 00:48:53,655
He has.
782
00:49:13,862 --> 00:49:15,985
You wanna execute him?
783
00:49:15,988 --> 00:49:18,695
We can bury him right out
here, I don't give a shit.
784
00:49:18,697 --> 00:49:22,486
Throw him off a
bridge... Nobody'll care.
785
00:49:22,488 --> 00:49:25,986
Put him in holding,
get his parole violated.
786
00:49:25,988 --> 00:49:27,903
He'll be back in Wrightsville tomorrow.
787
00:49:27,905 --> 00:49:31,736
- Full sentence.
- If you say so.
788
00:49:31,738 --> 00:49:33,611
Talk shit about us...
789
00:49:33,613 --> 00:49:36,611
I'll have monstrous niggers
fuck him to death in his cell.
790
00:49:37,865 --> 00:49:41,144
D'you hear me, boy? You
will bleed black cock.
791
00:49:45,988 --> 00:49:49,738
Gotta catch up, man. Just
spent the day on this bullshit.
792
00:49:55,105 --> 00:49:59,269
That was a vivid description
of prison rape. Jesus.
793
00:49:59,279 --> 00:50:01,403
Could tell he had the racial thing.
794
00:50:01,405 --> 00:50:03,444
Remember what he said in the barn?
795
00:50:03,446 --> 00:50:06,238
Still... it's gonna haunt me.
796
00:50:10,905 --> 00:50:13,446
D-12, do you copy?
797
00:50:17,238 --> 00:50:19,027
Copy, dispatch.
798
00:50:19,029 --> 00:50:22,029
Lieutenant Twiggs wants
y'all at the Purcell place.
799
00:50:23,988 --> 00:50:25,403
What's up?
800
00:50:25,405 --> 00:50:27,947
Someone said the family got a note.
801
00:50:31,863 --> 00:50:34,113
Copy. On the way.
802
00:50:50,905 --> 00:50:52,988
- Hey, Dad.
- Hi.
803
00:51:10,321 --> 00:51:12,733
_
804
00:51:16,186 --> 00:51:18,152
Hey. Hey!
805
00:51:18,154 --> 00:51:20,611
Did you see? They sent me the galleys.
806
00:51:20,613 --> 00:51:21,988
That's great.
807
00:51:23,488 --> 00:51:25,822
You got a little loose after work?
808
00:51:27,238 --> 00:51:29,123
How was the deposition?
809
00:51:29,126 --> 00:51:30,418
It was fine.
810
00:51:39,454 --> 00:51:41,830
It's as much about us as anything.
811
00:51:43,780 --> 00:51:47,027
And I think her and me, it was as close
812
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:49,863
as she could give the
thing a happy ending.
813
00:51:52,238 --> 00:51:54,361
After the events of 1990,
814
00:51:54,363 --> 00:51:57,736
and what happened with
Julie and her father,
815
00:51:57,738 --> 00:52:00,069
you left the PD.
816
00:52:00,071 --> 00:52:02,861
Did you believe that concluded the case?
817
00:52:02,863 --> 00:52:06,820
Did you feel the investigation
ended too abruptly?
818
00:52:06,830 --> 00:52:10,037
She wrote six novels
after. This was her first.
819
00:52:11,279 --> 00:52:15,194
Uh, very... to a cop,
820
00:52:15,196 --> 00:52:17,945
very impressive eye for detail.
821
00:52:17,947 --> 00:52:19,611
Have you read it?
822
00:52:19,613 --> 00:52:22,717
Mr. Hays, did you have
theories after what happened
823
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:25,162
with Julie Purcell
and her father in '90?
824
00:52:25,165 --> 00:52:26,803
Theories that weren't in line
825
00:52:26,806 --> 00:52:28,387
with your superior's directives?
826
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:30,485
I heard what you asked.
827
00:52:30,488 --> 00:52:33,695
The answer is...
828
00:52:33,697 --> 00:52:37,279
I never stopped coming up
with theories about that case.
829
00:52:38,405 --> 00:52:40,695
And I hit Todd and Dave into home,
830
00:52:40,697 --> 00:52:42,655
and when I went over, we won.
831
00:52:42,658 --> 00:52:45,151
Coach saw, and came and
talked to me about baseball
832
00:52:45,154 --> 00:52:46,947
when I get older.
833
00:52:50,947 --> 00:52:53,542
- That's fantastic, Henry.
- Mm-hmm.
834
00:52:53,545 --> 00:52:55,240
You're gonna be very athletic.
835
00:52:55,243 --> 00:52:56,407
You already are.
836
00:53:09,988 --> 00:53:12,903
The publisher said we can issue
an update for the paperback
837
00:53:12,905 --> 00:53:15,528
once this appeal goes to trial.
838
00:53:15,530 --> 00:53:16,905
Yeah?
839
00:53:21,154 --> 00:53:24,152
You're a bit out of it tonight.
840
00:53:24,154 --> 00:53:25,611
The kids noticed.
841
00:53:25,613 --> 00:53:28,238
You can't be that way in front of them.
842
00:53:29,613 --> 00:53:31,905
- I'm not drunk.
- What's going on?
843
00:53:33,688 --> 00:53:35,979
What happened with the deposition?
844
00:53:37,446 --> 00:53:39,905
They overturning the conviction?
845
00:53:43,113 --> 00:53:45,446
Julie Purcell is alive.
846
00:53:58,154 --> 00:54:01,319
Thought for sure you'd all beat us here.
847
00:54:01,321 --> 00:54:03,486
What is that, huh?
848
00:54:03,488 --> 00:54:04,986
What's that mean?
849
00:54:10,168 --> 00:54:17,545
_
850
00:54:20,081 --> 00:54:22,413
Well, what's it mean?
851
00:54:22,416 --> 00:54:24,165
Hmm?
852
00:54:35,988 --> 00:54:39,029
You want more chicken, Wayne?
853
00:54:44,655 --> 00:54:46,861
Thanks for the spread, Heather.
854
00:54:46,863 --> 00:54:48,778
This is wonderful.
855
00:54:48,780 --> 00:54:50,736
Are you feelin' all right?
856
00:54:50,738 --> 00:54:52,277
Uh...
857
00:54:52,279 --> 00:54:54,365
He's been goin' back through that case.
858
00:54:54,368 --> 00:54:55,618
Mom's book.
859
00:54:57,196 --> 00:54:59,695
I never read the whole thing.
860
00:54:59,697 --> 00:55:02,530
Couldn't stand I was in it so much.
861
00:55:04,613 --> 00:55:06,861
Goin' back over the story, it's good...
862
00:55:06,863 --> 00:55:09,361
Makin' me work my brain, I mean.
863
00:55:09,363 --> 00:55:11,405
Leadin' me to other stuff.
864
00:55:15,488 --> 00:55:18,903
Maybe you guys could see
about gettin' Rebecca out here.
865
00:55:18,905 --> 00:55:21,071
I'd like to see her.
866
00:55:23,571 --> 00:55:25,736
She's in L.A., Dad.
867
00:55:25,738 --> 00:55:27,903
When did that happen?
868
00:55:27,906 --> 00:55:30,045
What's she doin' out there?
869
00:55:30,915 --> 00:55:33,082
She's playin' music, Wayne.
870
00:55:36,947 --> 00:55:38,569
She okay? You talk to her?
871
00:55:38,571 --> 00:55:41,071
I talked to her a few weeks ago.
872
00:55:43,196 --> 00:55:45,444
Think she'd come back home for a visit?
873
00:55:45,446 --> 00:55:48,444
She don't like it here, Dad.
874
00:55:48,446 --> 00:55:50,053
Why not?
875
00:55:51,822 --> 00:55:53,820
I just don't think it suits her.
876
00:55:53,822 --> 00:55:56,778
- She never liked it.
- She didn't?
877
00:55:56,780 --> 00:55:59,778
Hey!
878
00:55:59,780 --> 00:56:02,152
One more time, okay?
879
00:56:03,905 --> 00:56:06,027
Shh. Eat.
880
00:56:06,029 --> 00:56:09,655
It's goin' by pretty quick.
881
00:56:11,446 --> 00:56:13,446
Don't I know it.
882
00:56:16,947 --> 00:56:20,403
Maybe you guys could see
about gettin' Rebecca out here.
883
00:56:20,405 --> 00:56:22,446
I'd like to see her.
884
00:57:32,302 --> 00:57:37,178
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