1 00:00:07,107 --> 00:00:11,311 *** 2 00:00:11,911 --> 00:00:16,816 * Sorrow will take you * 3 00:00:18,051 --> 00:00:22,155 * It will shake you * 4 00:00:24,124 --> 00:00:29,129 * How can anyone stand tall? * 5 00:00:30,363 --> 00:00:33,099 * When mountains fall * 6 00:00:33,133 --> 00:00:35,402 Do you see that we came for the Blue Ridge Mountains? 7 00:00:35,435 --> 00:00:37,303 - Yeah. - How hard would it be for you, 8 00:00:37,337 --> 00:00:39,039 not even being from here, to hide a body? 9 00:00:39,072 --> 00:00:40,540 It wouldn't be hard at all. 10 00:00:40,573 --> 00:00:42,409 You don't know where to search here. 11 00:00:42,442 --> 00:00:46,646 No, gorges and caves and canyons and rivers and everything. 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,283 I love that song, "Take Me Home, Country Roads," 13 00:00:50,316 --> 00:00:52,285 where they sing about the Blue Ridge Mountains. 14 00:00:52,318 --> 00:00:54,254 It's beautiful here, 15 00:00:54,287 --> 00:00:57,457 but it's also a place where some people never come home, 16 00:00:57,490 --> 00:01:00,160 like young wife and mother, Brenda Lambert, 17 00:01:00,193 --> 00:01:02,495 who disappeared here 30 years ago. 18 00:01:02,529 --> 00:01:05,598 Brenda, was only 22, a baby herself. 19 00:01:05,632 --> 00:01:08,468 She was married. She had little kids, 20 00:01:08,501 --> 00:01:10,403 and she goes missing on the day 21 00:01:10,437 --> 00:01:12,339 of her son's one year birthday party. 22 00:01:12,372 --> 00:01:16,109 - A lot of questions. - A lot of rumors, crazy rumors. 23 00:01:16,142 --> 00:01:18,645 Weeks before her disappearance, 24 00:01:18,678 --> 00:01:20,747 Brenda Lambert filed a protective order 25 00:01:20,780 --> 00:01:23,350 against her husband, claiming domestic violence. 26 00:01:23,383 --> 00:01:27,287 Naturally, he became the first person of interest. 27 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:30,123 According to him, though, Brenda just ran off. 28 00:01:30,156 --> 00:01:32,859 But then you've got this weird aspect of this case. 29 00:01:32,892 --> 00:01:34,728 Not only does Brenda go missing, 30 00:01:34,761 --> 00:01:37,697 you've got an alleged lover of hers that goes missing. 31 00:01:37,731 --> 00:01:41,101 Mark Cook. There's no body ever found with that one either. 32 00:01:41,134 --> 00:01:42,702 Are they related or is it just-- 33 00:01:42,736 --> 00:01:44,637 - A rumor? - Yeah. 34 00:01:44,671 --> 00:01:46,272 Six months after Brenda vanished, 35 00:01:46,306 --> 00:01:48,108 a local man named Mark Cook also disappeared. 36 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:49,843 Some think it's just a coincidence, 37 00:01:49,876 --> 00:01:51,378 while other people suspect 38 00:01:51,411 --> 00:01:53,480 that their disappearances are connected. 39 00:01:53,513 --> 00:01:55,982 If so, that would open up a whole new world of suspects. 40 00:01:56,016 --> 00:01:58,551 Her sister, Christy's, been like an investigator 41 00:01:58,585 --> 00:02:00,353 this whole time for all these years, 42 00:02:00,387 --> 00:02:02,088 trying to get something to happen with the case. 43 00:02:02,122 --> 00:02:04,057 I would do the same thing for my sister. 44 00:02:04,057 --> 00:02:06,493 - Yeah. - For over 30 years, 45 00:02:06,526 --> 00:02:09,462 all of the rumors and unanswered questions 46 00:02:09,496 --> 00:02:12,198 about this case have torn Brenda's family apart. 47 00:02:12,232 --> 00:02:15,068 Circumstantial evidence cases where you don't have a body 48 00:02:15,068 --> 00:02:16,970 are the hardest ones to solve. 49 00:02:17,070 --> 00:02:18,838 So, that's why the Mercer County Sheriff's Office has asked 50 00:02:18,872 --> 00:02:20,473 for our help. 51 00:02:20,507 --> 00:02:22,075 Something like this where you've got a mother 52 00:02:22,108 --> 00:02:23,777 of a couple of kids. 53 00:02:23,810 --> 00:02:25,879 These are the ones that I think they haunt you. 54 00:02:25,912 --> 00:02:27,080 I know. 55 00:02:27,113 --> 00:02:29,616 *** 56 00:02:32,986 --> 00:02:34,454 - Howdy. - Hello. 57 00:02:34,487 --> 00:02:35,922 - How ya doing? - How are y'all? 58 00:02:35,955 --> 00:02:37,724 - Good to see y'all. - Steve Spingola. 59 00:02:37,757 --> 00:02:39,426 - How you doing? - Nice to meet you. 60 00:02:39,459 --> 00:02:41,194 Nice to meet you. So he drafted you, huh? 61 00:02:41,227 --> 00:02:43,096 He did, I'm drafted. 62 00:02:43,096 --> 00:02:45,765 Your department was known about the case for 30 years. 63 00:02:45,799 --> 00:02:47,600 Yes. Yeah, I'm retiring here next month. 64 00:02:47,634 --> 00:02:49,936 This is like your last big push for this, huh? 65 00:02:49,969 --> 00:02:52,005 It is. Don't want to let anybody down. 66 00:02:52,105 --> 00:02:54,007 - I want closure for the family. - Okay. 67 00:02:54,107 --> 00:02:55,575 Well, let's go get started working 68 00:02:55,608 --> 00:02:57,210 and see if we can get some answers, okay? 69 00:02:57,243 --> 00:02:59,112 Sounds great. 70 00:02:59,145 --> 00:03:01,948 Mercer County is very quiet, very rural, low crime rates. 71 00:03:02,048 --> 00:03:03,783 It's a little piece of heaven. 72 00:03:03,817 --> 00:03:06,152 Having a cold case like this with a missing person 73 00:03:06,186 --> 00:03:07,921 is very unusual for Mercer County. 74 00:03:07,954 --> 00:03:10,423 It's a thorn in the side for the sheriff's department 75 00:03:10,457 --> 00:03:12,258 not to get this thing solved. 76 00:03:12,292 --> 00:03:14,761 Closing this case would mean the world to me. 77 00:03:14,794 --> 00:03:19,232 Okay. First, tell us a little bit about Brenda. 78 00:03:19,265 --> 00:03:20,800 Brenda was a mother of two. 79 00:03:20,834 --> 00:03:23,636 She was very happy person, easygoing. 80 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:26,072 Everything was about her children. 81 00:03:26,072 --> 00:03:28,308 Who's the baby in the picture here with Brenda? 82 00:03:28,341 --> 00:03:30,110 That's baby Raymond Jr. 83 00:03:30,143 --> 00:03:31,611 And that was his one-year birthday? 84 00:03:31,644 --> 00:03:33,113 - Mm-hmm. - And the daughter was? 85 00:03:33,146 --> 00:03:34,681 Christa Dawn. 86 00:03:34,714 --> 00:03:36,349 She was a homemaker. 87 00:03:36,383 --> 00:03:38,418 Family was real important to her. 88 00:03:38,451 --> 00:03:40,854 Anybody that knew her knew that she was also a fighter, 89 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:42,722 she had a fighter spirit. 90 00:03:42,756 --> 00:03:44,891 She was kind of sassy, right? She was a feisty girl. 91 00:03:44,924 --> 00:03:46,760 Very defensive of what she loved. 92 00:03:46,793 --> 00:03:48,595 Nice. 93 00:03:48,628 --> 00:03:50,563 Branda and Raymond got married back in 1986, 94 00:03:50,597 --> 00:03:52,465 when Brenda was only 16 years old. 95 00:03:52,499 --> 00:03:55,168 By July of 1992, 96 00:03:55,201 --> 00:03:58,371 their relationship was already headed for a divorce. 97 00:03:58,405 --> 00:04:00,106 He's not living in the house. 98 00:04:00,140 --> 00:04:02,142 He's actually living with his mom and dad. 99 00:04:02,175 --> 00:04:03,777 Really? 100 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:06,046 There were allegations of domestic violence 101 00:04:06,079 --> 00:04:08,048 and infidelity. 102 00:04:08,048 --> 00:04:10,383 And Raymond was staying with his parents 103 00:04:10,417 --> 00:04:13,286 on the family's rural mountain property 104 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:14,788 on the day Brenda disappeared. 105 00:04:14,821 --> 00:04:18,658 July 26, 1992. How does all this start? 106 00:04:18,692 --> 00:04:21,695 She was having a birthday party for Junior Lambert. 107 00:04:21,728 --> 00:04:23,496 She invited the family. 108 00:04:23,530 --> 00:04:27,067 Raymond went to pick a cake up and he showed up. 109 00:04:27,067 --> 00:04:30,070 - Tammy Loveday showed up. - Brenda's cousin. 110 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:32,339 There was a source of tension to her being in the home 111 00:04:32,372 --> 00:04:34,341 because there was a lot of rumor focused around 112 00:04:34,374 --> 00:04:36,743 that Tammy might have been having an affair with Raymond. 113 00:04:36,776 --> 00:04:38,878 And she had the nerve to go to the birthday party? 114 00:04:38,912 --> 00:04:40,647 - She did. - That's kind of bold. 115 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,916 Oh, yeah. But everybody seems to agree 116 00:04:42,949 --> 00:04:44,451 she was in a terrible mood that day, 117 00:04:44,484 --> 00:04:45,685 that there was something wrong. 118 00:04:45,719 --> 00:04:47,487 Well, it's not every day 119 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,357 that your husband's mistress walks into the house 120 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:53,193 and starts lording over the birthday party for a-- 121 00:04:53,226 --> 00:04:54,828 - Right. - For a one-year-old child. 122 00:04:54,861 --> 00:04:56,463 Yeah. 123 00:04:56,496 --> 00:04:58,098 According to the family at the party, 124 00:04:58,098 --> 00:04:59,833 everybody left about eight o' clock. 125 00:04:59,866 --> 00:05:02,869 Raymond took the kids up to the mountain property 126 00:05:02,902 --> 00:05:04,337 where they spent the night 127 00:05:04,371 --> 00:05:05,839 with Raymond and Raymond's parents. 128 00:05:05,872 --> 00:05:08,241 The next day, he returned about 2:30 129 00:05:08,274 --> 00:05:10,944 to discover that Brenda was missing. 130 00:05:11,044 --> 00:05:12,946 The family contacted the sheriff's department 131 00:05:13,046 --> 00:05:14,614 and said she was missing. 132 00:05:14,647 --> 00:05:16,883 The sheriff's department went to that residence. 133 00:05:16,916 --> 00:05:18,918 They found the house locked up. 134 00:05:18,952 --> 00:05:21,755 The decorations from the birthday party still up. 135 00:05:21,788 --> 00:05:24,491 The dishes from the party were still in the sink. 136 00:05:24,524 --> 00:05:26,726 Law enforcement starts looking for her. 137 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,829 But she just vanished. 138 00:05:29,863 --> 00:05:32,132 How was Raymond handling it back then? 139 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:34,768 If I was a husband that had lost my wife, 140 00:05:34,801 --> 00:05:38,471 I would be calling the cops for updates on what's going on. 141 00:05:38,505 --> 00:05:40,106 We got nothing but crickets from him. 142 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:41,908 - Whoa. - Brenda's car was still parked 143 00:05:41,941 --> 00:05:43,576 right outside of her house, 144 00:05:43,610 --> 00:05:45,545 and nothing was found to have been missing. 145 00:05:45,578 --> 00:05:47,280 Raymond suggested she may have abandoned her own kids 146 00:05:47,313 --> 00:05:49,215 and run off with another man. 147 00:05:49,249 --> 00:05:52,085 But if that's so, she didn't take anything with her. 148 00:05:52,085 --> 00:05:53,787 Maybe he didn't seem concerned 149 00:05:53,820 --> 00:05:55,455 because he knew what actually happened to her. 150 00:05:55,488 --> 00:05:57,357 All right. 151 00:05:57,390 --> 00:05:59,426 So, you always have to look to the spouse first, right? 152 00:05:59,459 --> 00:06:01,127 Raymond Lambert. 153 00:06:01,161 --> 00:06:05,298 Raymond was 26, married young, rocky marriage. 154 00:06:05,331 --> 00:06:08,034 He's mad at her about her socializing. 155 00:06:08,034 --> 00:06:09,636 She liked to go to the bars. 156 00:06:09,669 --> 00:06:11,738 - Well, everybody did, right? - Yeah. 157 00:06:11,771 --> 00:06:13,506 It was just what you did on the weekend. 158 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:15,141 - Yeah. - He's jealous, right? 159 00:06:15,175 --> 00:06:17,243 Very jealous. She was telling her other people 160 00:06:17,277 --> 00:06:19,045 that Raymond was beating her. 161 00:06:19,045 --> 00:06:20,547 Well, there was a DV, 162 00:06:20,580 --> 00:06:22,549 a domestic violence earlier that month. 163 00:06:22,582 --> 00:06:23,883 July 7th, she calls law enforcement. 164 00:06:23,917 --> 00:06:26,586 He was held me against my will, 165 00:06:26,619 --> 00:06:28,922 stuck a gun to my head and threatened to kill me. 166 00:06:28,955 --> 00:06:30,824 Raymond doesn't get arrested 167 00:06:30,857 --> 00:06:32,826 but she's going to go see legal aid, July 30th. 168 00:06:32,859 --> 00:06:35,528 Attorney, to talk about doing what? 169 00:06:35,562 --> 00:06:37,464 Divorce. 170 00:06:37,497 --> 00:06:39,632 Brenda ended up dropping her protective order, 171 00:06:39,666 --> 00:06:42,302 which is what allowed Raymond to come to the birthday party. 172 00:06:42,335 --> 00:06:45,638 So, if he did kill Brenda, why that night? 173 00:06:45,672 --> 00:06:48,842 Now, let's get to our next suspect, 174 00:06:48,875 --> 00:06:53,346 Tammy, Brenda's cousin, cheating with Raymond. 175 00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:56,249 In his original statement, he doesn't put Tammy there. 176 00:06:56,282 --> 00:06:58,451 Denies having any relationship with her. 177 00:06:58,485 --> 00:07:00,253 But even Brenda knew they were sleeping together? 178 00:07:00,286 --> 00:07:01,688 - Yeah. - Yeah. 179 00:07:01,721 --> 00:07:03,523 How fast did she move into Brenda's house? 180 00:07:03,556 --> 00:07:05,358 Tammy moved in a week later. 181 00:07:05,392 --> 00:07:07,894 They lived together, got married, raised the kids, 182 00:07:07,927 --> 00:07:09,329 and then got divorced. 183 00:07:09,362 --> 00:07:11,398 Brenda's cousin, Tammy, replaced her 184 00:07:11,431 --> 00:07:13,833 as soon as Brenda was out of the picture. 185 00:07:13,867 --> 00:07:15,735 But how was Tammy so sure 186 00:07:15,769 --> 00:07:17,404 Brenda wasn't going to be coming back? 187 00:07:17,437 --> 00:07:20,440 Did Tammy kill Brenda for Raymond? 188 00:07:20,473 --> 00:07:23,309 Did Tammy kill Brenda with Raymond? 189 00:07:23,343 --> 00:07:26,346 Or was she really uninvolved in what happened to her? 190 00:07:26,379 --> 00:07:29,049 So, the only other big rumor that comes into play 191 00:07:29,082 --> 00:07:30,650 when we're trying to figure out 192 00:07:30,684 --> 00:07:32,385 what to do with what happened to Brenda 193 00:07:32,419 --> 00:07:34,187 is what do we do with the fact 194 00:07:34,220 --> 00:07:37,157 that Mark Cook goes missing six months later, right? 195 00:07:37,190 --> 00:07:39,526 In a small town like this, 196 00:07:39,559 --> 00:07:42,195 one missing person is pretty dang rare. 197 00:07:42,228 --> 00:07:45,365 But two in six months, that is unheard of. 198 00:07:45,398 --> 00:07:49,903 24-year-old Mark Cook was last seen on January the 14th 199 00:07:49,936 --> 00:07:52,172 at a local bar called Pedro's. 200 00:07:52,205 --> 00:07:54,074 You gotta understand this is a small town, 201 00:07:54,074 --> 00:07:55,575 tight knit community, 202 00:07:55,608 --> 00:07:57,310 everybody knows everybody from school. 203 00:07:57,344 --> 00:08:00,347 Brenda Lambert and Mark Cook knew each other 204 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:03,583 and there was a lot of talk that she's missing. 205 00:08:03,616 --> 00:08:05,385 All of a sudden, he's missing. 206 00:08:05,418 --> 00:08:07,354 Maybe there was more than just a friendship. 207 00:08:07,387 --> 00:08:10,090 Lot of talk and innuendo of, well, 208 00:08:10,123 --> 00:08:13,026 maybe she ran away with Mark Cook, found another life. 209 00:08:13,059 --> 00:08:15,395 Thirty years ago in Mercer County, 210 00:08:15,428 --> 00:08:17,731 how can two different people go missing? 211 00:08:17,764 --> 00:08:19,399 Could they be related? 212 00:08:19,432 --> 00:08:21,501 We're just going to go see how far we can go 213 00:08:21,534 --> 00:08:23,336 down that trail and see what we come up with. 214 00:08:23,370 --> 00:08:26,406 If Brenda and Mark were having an affair, 215 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:29,242 is it possible that Raymond's jealousy caused him 216 00:08:29,275 --> 00:08:33,046 to kill Brenda and then seek revenge against Mark? 217 00:08:33,046 --> 00:08:34,614 Could-- could it have been someone else? 218 00:08:34,647 --> 00:08:37,650 Are their disappearances even connected at all? 219 00:08:37,684 --> 00:08:39,119 Any way you look at it, 220 00:08:39,152 --> 00:08:40,754 if we're going to solve Brenda's case, 221 00:08:40,787 --> 00:08:43,123 we need to take a look at Mark's case too. 222 00:08:43,156 --> 00:08:46,860 *** 223 00:08:52,499 --> 00:08:55,068 Brenda and Raymond's son was just a baby 224 00:08:55,068 --> 00:08:56,670 when she went missing. 225 00:08:56,703 --> 00:08:58,972 And today, he's still very close with his dad. 226 00:08:59,072 --> 00:09:01,141 And their daughter tragically passed away 227 00:09:01,174 --> 00:09:02,742 just a few years ago. 228 00:09:02,776 --> 00:09:05,245 But Brenda had six brothers and sisters. 229 00:09:05,278 --> 00:09:06,479 - Hello. - Hi. 230 00:09:06,513 --> 00:09:08,314 - Hello. - And through the years, 231 00:09:08,348 --> 00:09:10,817 it's been her sister, Christy, who has dedicated herself 232 00:09:10,850 --> 00:09:12,652 to try and figure out what's happened. 233 00:09:12,686 --> 00:09:16,389 Writing countless emails to investigators full of tips 234 00:09:16,423 --> 00:09:18,825 and leads and questions. 235 00:09:18,858 --> 00:09:21,227 Today, we're meeting with her and her brother, Tim. 236 00:09:21,261 --> 00:09:23,229 We're excited to talk to you all. 237 00:09:23,263 --> 00:09:25,165 Oh, well, I'm excited to talk to you. 238 00:09:25,198 --> 00:09:27,834 So, we're here to talk about Brenda and what she was like. 239 00:09:27,867 --> 00:09:30,303 She was fun growing up with as a kid. 240 00:09:30,337 --> 00:09:33,606 She's a tomboy and she liked climbing trees. 241 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,041 How far did she go in school? 242 00:09:36,343 --> 00:09:39,612 She was feisty and the principal begged my mom 243 00:09:39,646 --> 00:09:41,314 to let her quit at 15. 244 00:09:41,348 --> 00:09:42,816 You're kidding, how come? 245 00:09:42,849 --> 00:09:44,317 He just wanted her out of there 246 00:09:44,351 --> 00:09:45,952 because she wanted to pull pranks. 247 00:09:46,052 --> 00:09:47,954 - Did you know that? - I did not know that. 248 00:09:48,054 --> 00:09:50,056 She never grew up out of the childlike stage, 249 00:09:50,056 --> 00:09:51,658 but she was a really good mother. 250 00:09:51,691 --> 00:09:53,827 She did love her kids with her heart. 251 00:09:53,860 --> 00:09:55,628 She didn't walk off. 252 00:09:55,662 --> 00:09:57,397 She would have never left her kids. 253 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:59,165 - No. - Okay. 254 00:09:59,199 --> 00:10:01,968 And she would not let them kids go with Raymond, 255 00:10:02,002 --> 00:10:03,670 I guarantee it. 256 00:10:03,703 --> 00:10:05,705 She was just exciting to be around, you know. 257 00:10:05,739 --> 00:10:09,042 She liked to play around, laugh a lot, cut up, 258 00:10:09,075 --> 00:10:11,311 and she was a great mother. 259 00:10:11,344 --> 00:10:13,480 She loved her kids. 260 00:10:13,513 --> 00:10:15,015 That's the reason I know 261 00:10:15,048 --> 00:10:16,683 she didn't walk off like they said. 262 00:10:16,716 --> 00:10:20,286 As soon as I heard that, I said, "No, she didn't." 263 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,056 No, she didn't. 264 00:10:23,089 --> 00:10:27,060 Go back to back then, to late '80s, early '90s. 265 00:10:27,093 --> 00:10:30,497 What was going on in Brenda's world and Raymond's world? 266 00:10:30,530 --> 00:10:34,200 Me and Raymond was working at a chicken plant. 267 00:10:34,234 --> 00:10:36,636 That's how he met Brenda, 268 00:10:36,670 --> 00:10:38,905 coming down to pick me up and take me home. 269 00:10:38,938 --> 00:10:40,874 Did you want them to start dating? 270 00:10:40,907 --> 00:10:43,443 Well, I didn't mind it at first because I didn't know him. 271 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:45,245 Cause I rode with him for three months. 272 00:10:45,278 --> 00:10:47,714 - And? - I didn't like him very much. 273 00:10:47,747 --> 00:10:49,182 How come? 274 00:10:49,215 --> 00:10:50,717 Well, he'd stop on a river bridge. 275 00:10:50,750 --> 00:10:52,686 He said if you ever kill anybody, 276 00:10:52,719 --> 00:10:54,554 there's a swirl rack down on that river, 277 00:10:54,587 --> 00:10:56,523 just throw them in there. 278 00:10:56,556 --> 00:10:58,858 Tie a block to her feet and they'll go down in and out. 279 00:10:58,892 --> 00:11:00,694 Are you thinking he's full of [bleep] 280 00:11:00,727 --> 00:11:02,595 and he's just trying to impress you? He's messed up. 281 00:11:02,629 --> 00:11:04,230 That's what I thought. He's full of [bleep]. 282 00:11:04,264 --> 00:11:05,732 So, you didn't think he was really capable 283 00:11:05,765 --> 00:11:07,300 of doing all these things? 284 00:11:07,334 --> 00:11:09,302 - No, not at the time. - Not at the time. 285 00:11:09,336 --> 00:11:10,670 All right. 286 00:11:14,941 --> 00:11:16,676 I'm done. 287 00:11:18,244 --> 00:11:20,080 It's okay, Tim. 288 00:11:23,783 --> 00:11:25,585 Did you have any clue 289 00:11:25,618 --> 00:11:27,554 that things were not going well in their marriage? 290 00:11:27,587 --> 00:11:30,590 Yes. 291 00:11:30,623 --> 00:11:33,226 I know they was getting ready to get a divorce. 292 00:11:33,259 --> 00:11:35,862 - Did you know about the abuse? - No. 293 00:11:35,895 --> 00:11:37,697 Did you know he was running around on her? 294 00:11:37,731 --> 00:11:39,866 Yeah, that's why they was getting a divorce. 295 00:11:39,899 --> 00:11:41,601 When did you start hearing anything 296 00:11:41,634 --> 00:11:42,869 about Tammy and Raymond? 297 00:11:42,902 --> 00:11:44,637 Just around the birthday party. 298 00:11:44,671 --> 00:11:46,573 - I didn't know Tammy. - But she's your cousin. 299 00:11:46,606 --> 00:11:48,842 Yeah, but she lived in Missouri all her life. 300 00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:51,177 Oh, so she's kind of like the new girl in town. 301 00:11:51,211 --> 00:11:52,645 Yeah. 302 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,114 So, Brenda didn't know her either? 303 00:11:54,114 --> 00:11:55,815 - No. - Good to know. Thank you. 304 00:11:55,849 --> 00:11:58,618 So, Christy, how come of all the family members, 305 00:11:58,651 --> 00:12:00,920 you've sort of appointed yourself 306 00:12:00,954 --> 00:12:03,423 to be the one to communicate with him the most? 307 00:12:03,456 --> 00:12:05,525 I mean, I just wanted to. 308 00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:07,293 And it was just like a fire in me. 309 00:12:07,327 --> 00:12:09,496 I had to find her. And I still do. 310 00:12:09,529 --> 00:12:10,797 I can't give up on her. 311 00:12:10,830 --> 00:12:12,766 Brenda was like a second mom. 312 00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:14,601 He was like my other dad. 313 00:12:14,634 --> 00:12:16,336 I was with them so much 314 00:12:16,369 --> 00:12:18,238 that their kids were like my brother and sister. 315 00:12:18,271 --> 00:12:21,307 It still hurts to think that he might have killed her. 316 00:12:21,341 --> 00:12:23,076 - Complicated. - Very. 317 00:12:23,076 --> 00:12:25,679 It's been hard carrying this on my shoulders 318 00:12:25,712 --> 00:12:27,947 from trying to get answers for Brenda. 319 00:12:27,981 --> 00:12:29,816 I mean, she's been gone for 30 years, 320 00:12:29,849 --> 00:12:32,986 and there's never any hope whatsoever. 321 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:36,423 Not until Cold Justice showed up, you know. 322 00:12:36,456 --> 00:12:38,858 I try not to be hopeless, 323 00:12:38,892 --> 00:12:42,195 but this has been the most hope that we've had. 324 00:12:42,228 --> 00:12:44,097 Give me a hug. 325 00:12:51,171 --> 00:12:53,840 * Whoa, the time may come * 326 00:12:54,507 --> 00:12:57,744 * Swallow up the land I'm from * 327 00:12:57,777 --> 00:13:00,814 * Whoa, how the time may come * 328 00:13:00,847 --> 00:13:04,484 * Drown my woes, the tide has come * 329 00:13:04,517 --> 00:13:06,419 The first thing we want to do 330 00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:08,221 is try and get a really good understanding 331 00:13:08,254 --> 00:13:10,156 of all the key locations in this case. 332 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:13,593 So, we've asked Brenda's sister, Christy, for her help. 333 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:15,562 Brenda's house is no longer standing, 334 00:13:15,595 --> 00:13:18,431 but Christy's first hand knowledge of the area 335 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:20,166 could really be invaluable 336 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,669 in helping us understand Raymond's story 337 00:13:22,702 --> 00:13:24,671 and his family's land, 338 00:13:24,704 --> 00:13:26,373 where the sheriff's department thinks 339 00:13:26,406 --> 00:13:27,974 that Brenda might be buried. 340 00:13:28,074 --> 00:13:29,876 You know, when I first moved back here, 341 00:13:29,909 --> 00:13:32,212 it floored me how much had changed. 342 00:13:32,245 --> 00:13:34,080 Why did you move back? 343 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,483 To get closer to do something with Brenda's case. 344 00:13:36,516 --> 00:13:38,885 Because it's just so hard. 345 00:13:38,918 --> 00:13:40,720 When I was living in Tennessee, you know, 346 00:13:40,754 --> 00:13:42,922 I would make trips in and the phone calls 347 00:13:42,956 --> 00:13:45,091 and stuff like that. It was a lot harder than me 348 00:13:45,091 --> 00:13:47,394 just being able to go up to the courthouse and like, 349 00:13:47,427 --> 00:13:49,229 "Hey, let's talk about this." 350 00:13:49,262 --> 00:13:50,764 You see just down this road right here 351 00:13:50,797 --> 00:13:52,599 is where Brenda lived. 352 00:13:52,632 --> 00:13:55,201 * Darkness left where the sunlight's been * 353 00:13:55,235 --> 00:13:58,371 * Darkness now, my only friend * 354 00:13:58,405 --> 00:14:02,042 So, Christy, tell us what it was like 30 years ago. 355 00:14:02,075 --> 00:14:04,310 The house was way back there at the end of the property. 356 00:14:04,344 --> 00:14:05,712 So, what was the closest neighbor 357 00:14:05,745 --> 00:14:07,313 to Brenda and Raymond back then? 358 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,315 I think all the way over here. 359 00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:11,084 Even if you got into a screaming match, 360 00:14:11,117 --> 00:14:12,585 you're not going to hear anything. 361 00:14:12,619 --> 00:14:14,387 According to Raymond, Brenda said 362 00:14:14,421 --> 00:14:16,222 she was going to ride up the mountain that night, 363 00:14:16,256 --> 00:14:18,091 but didn't specify where she was going. 364 00:14:18,124 --> 00:14:19,626 But her car was found at her house, 365 00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:21,761 along with her purse, keys and shoes. 366 00:14:21,795 --> 00:14:24,497 A strong indicator she did not leave voluntarily. 367 00:14:25,565 --> 00:14:27,901 It's hard being in the last place that she was seen. 368 00:14:27,934 --> 00:14:30,303 I know, but you probably got some good memories here? 369 00:14:30,337 --> 00:14:32,405 Oh, I got a lot of good memories. 370 00:14:32,439 --> 00:14:35,375 Raymond returned the next day to discover Brenda was missing. 371 00:14:35,408 --> 00:14:37,944 But if all of her things were clearly still in the house, 372 00:14:37,977 --> 00:14:40,380 why would he think she ran off with somebody else? 373 00:14:40,413 --> 00:14:42,549 Was Raymond actually just trying to draw attention away 374 00:14:42,582 --> 00:14:44,951 from himself or his new girlfriend, 375 00:14:44,984 --> 00:14:46,820 Brenda's cousin, Tammy? 376 00:14:46,853 --> 00:14:49,389 So, this whole drive we're doing right now 377 00:14:49,422 --> 00:14:52,692 would be the drive from Brenda and Raymond's house 378 00:14:52,726 --> 00:14:54,527 up to the Lambert property? 379 00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:56,629 Yes, that's on top of the mountain. 380 00:14:56,663 --> 00:14:58,164 They own 200 acres. 381 00:14:58,198 --> 00:15:00,467 So, if he killed Brenda at the house 382 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:03,169 and brought her up here, this is the route he's driving? 383 00:15:03,203 --> 00:15:05,538 Yes. 384 00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:08,875 * Grave digger, gonna bury my neck * 385 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:13,179 * That'll swallow me in my grave * 386 00:15:13,213 --> 00:15:16,316 Are we, like in the middle of Coaldale Mountain? 387 00:15:16,349 --> 00:15:17,817 This is on top of the mountain. 388 00:15:17,851 --> 00:15:19,386 So, the house Raymond grew up in-- 389 00:15:19,419 --> 00:15:21,121 Just a little way up the road. 390 00:15:21,154 --> 00:15:24,424 This way? The land that you're most interested in 391 00:15:24,457 --> 00:15:26,960 - has been Lambert property. - It is. 392 00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:29,129 And up until now, no one has granted you 393 00:15:29,162 --> 00:15:31,431 any permission to just go checking it out 394 00:15:31,464 --> 00:15:33,266 - and searching and digging? - Right. 395 00:15:33,299 --> 00:15:35,335 Standing on this mountain 396 00:15:35,368 --> 00:15:40,073 where Raymond's family owns 200 acres of this forest land, 397 00:15:40,073 --> 00:15:43,076 it strikes you how daunting this landscape is. 398 00:15:43,076 --> 00:15:46,212 If Brenda is out here, she could be anywhere. 399 00:15:46,246 --> 00:15:47,981 The good thing is, 400 00:15:48,081 --> 00:15:50,083 you don't have to have a body to prove a murder. 401 00:15:50,083 --> 00:15:54,487 It's tragic that people can just be here one day 402 00:15:54,521 --> 00:15:57,190 and gone the next. 403 00:15:57,223 --> 00:16:00,660 Nobody should be treated that way. 404 00:16:00,694 --> 00:16:04,664 * Follow me fast and then I flee * 405 00:16:12,138 --> 00:16:14,908 Okay, so now we're gonna Kay, huh? 406 00:16:14,941 --> 00:16:17,210 It's time for us to dive into the witnesses 407 00:16:17,243 --> 00:16:20,747 in Brenda's world, starting with her older sister, Kay. 408 00:16:20,780 --> 00:16:22,382 We know they were close. 409 00:16:22,415 --> 00:16:24,751 Kay gave birth to a little baby girl 410 00:16:24,784 --> 00:16:27,053 just three weeks after Brenda vanished 411 00:16:27,053 --> 00:16:28,755 and she named her after Brenda. 412 00:16:28,788 --> 00:16:30,590 - Hello. - Hey, is this Kay? 413 00:16:30,623 --> 00:16:33,259 - Yes. - Hopefully, Kay knows more 414 00:16:33,293 --> 00:16:35,895 about Brenda and Raymond's estranged relationship 415 00:16:35,929 --> 00:16:37,864 and the possibility that her disappearance 416 00:16:37,897 --> 00:16:40,066 is connected to Mark Cook. 417 00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:42,268 Do you think that Raymond thought that 418 00:16:42,302 --> 00:16:44,571 Mark Cook and Brenda were messing around with each other? 419 00:16:56,750 --> 00:16:59,819 Do you ever remember Raymond and Brenda, 420 00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:02,455 if there was any type of arguing? 421 00:17:48,335 --> 00:17:50,837 We know that Brenda filed a protective order 422 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:53,740 against Raymond in the weeks before her disappearance, 423 00:17:53,773 --> 00:17:55,275 claiming that he was violent. 424 00:17:55,308 --> 00:17:57,143 But it's much worse than I appreciated. 425 00:18:02,182 --> 00:18:04,784 How close in time did you see red rings around her neck 426 00:18:04,818 --> 00:18:07,120 compared to when she ends up missing? 427 00:18:09,689 --> 00:18:11,224 Wow. Okay. 428 00:18:21,568 --> 00:18:24,037 Was she really about to go through with the divorce, 429 00:18:24,037 --> 00:18:25,238 do you think? 430 00:18:29,509 --> 00:18:32,545 It sounds like regardless of Raymond's affair 431 00:18:32,579 --> 00:18:35,548 with her cousin, Brenda, knew that her marriage was over. 432 00:18:35,582 --> 00:18:38,051 In the world of domestic violence cases, 433 00:18:38,084 --> 00:18:42,622 strangulation is the ultimate act of control by the abuser. 434 00:18:42,655 --> 00:18:45,191 And a woman who has been strangled 435 00:18:45,225 --> 00:18:49,195 by her partner previously is 750% more likely 436 00:18:49,229 --> 00:18:51,064 to be killed by that partner. 437 00:18:51,064 --> 00:18:52,665 That's all I can think of 438 00:18:52,699 --> 00:18:54,300 that we need to ask you right now, Kay. 439 00:18:54,334 --> 00:18:55,568 Thank you very much for your help. 440 00:18:55,602 --> 00:18:57,070 Oh, thank you. 441 00:19:06,746 --> 00:19:08,048 Okay, so you call her 442 00:19:09,015 --> 00:19:11,051 and you just start ask her all those questions, 443 00:19:11,084 --> 00:19:13,219 and I'm going to make sure we cover everything 444 00:19:13,253 --> 00:19:15,288 - before you hang up, okay? - Okay, sounds great. 445 00:19:15,321 --> 00:19:17,724 We've heard that Brenda Lambert's disappearance 446 00:19:17,757 --> 00:19:19,225 had nothing to do with Mark Cook, 447 00:19:19,259 --> 00:19:21,227 but more to do with her relationship 448 00:19:21,261 --> 00:19:23,897 and her decision to divorce her husband, Raymond. 449 00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:25,799 And it's possible that her cousin, Tammy, 450 00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:27,400 was involved as well. 451 00:19:27,434 --> 00:19:29,035 But why that night? 452 00:19:30,070 --> 00:19:31,905 Hey, is this Kathy? 453 00:19:31,938 --> 00:19:34,774 We're hoping that Brenda's sister, Kat, knows more. 454 00:19:34,808 --> 00:19:36,776 Did you know anything 455 00:19:36,810 --> 00:19:38,545 about Brenda having an appointment 456 00:19:38,578 --> 00:19:41,948 on July the 30th to meet with a legal aid lawyer? 457 00:19:47,554 --> 00:19:49,356 And so, he didn't want to get divorced 458 00:19:49,389 --> 00:19:51,057 because he knew he could either lose the kids 459 00:19:51,057 --> 00:19:52,759 or had to split up custody, huh? 460 00:19:56,796 --> 00:20:00,467 Wow. Raymond said that he would see Brenda dead 461 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:02,102 before letting her take their kids. 462 00:20:02,135 --> 00:20:04,637 So, he was not only losing control of Brenda, 463 00:20:04,671 --> 00:20:06,906 he was also possibly losing his house 464 00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:08,775 and custody of his kids. 465 00:20:08,808 --> 00:20:10,510 It makes you wonder 466 00:20:10,543 --> 00:20:12,912 if it all came to a head that night of the birthday party 467 00:20:12,946 --> 00:20:15,515 and he lost control of himself too. 468 00:20:32,165 --> 00:20:34,167 Okay, talk about that threat. What do you mean? 469 00:20:45,378 --> 00:20:46,579 What is it? 470 00:20:53,486 --> 00:20:56,756 Man, according to Kat, 471 00:20:56,790 --> 00:20:58,858 Brenda threatened Raymond that she was going 472 00:20:58,892 --> 00:21:01,194 to go to the authorities with information about a crime 473 00:21:01,227 --> 00:21:03,129 that his family had committed. 474 00:21:03,163 --> 00:21:05,932 We've got no evidence that they committed that crime, 475 00:21:05,965 --> 00:21:07,667 and maybe Brenda didn't either. 476 00:21:07,701 --> 00:21:10,637 But if Raymond thought she did or feared she did, 477 00:21:10,670 --> 00:21:12,339 could that have made him snap? 478 00:21:12,372 --> 00:21:14,474 When was the next time you saw Raymond? 479 00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:27,554 What does he look like? How's he acting? 480 00:21:29,389 --> 00:21:30,924 Okay. 481 00:21:36,196 --> 00:21:38,098 Raymond told the sheriff's department 482 00:21:38,131 --> 00:21:39,799 that he did not return to their house 483 00:21:39,833 --> 00:21:41,668 until 2:30 that next day. 484 00:21:41,701 --> 00:21:43,503 So, how come he's telling Kat at midnight 485 00:21:43,536 --> 00:21:45,638 that he can't find Brenda at home? 486 00:21:45,672 --> 00:21:47,407 I appreciate your time. Thanks a lot. 487 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,875 All right, thank you. 488 00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:50,643 Did he return to her house or not? 489 00:21:50,677 --> 00:21:53,713 Did he forget or did he just blow his own alibi? 490 00:22:03,356 --> 00:22:05,558 We've been hearing a lot of evidence against Raymond, 491 00:22:05,592 --> 00:22:07,060 but we have another suspect 492 00:22:07,060 --> 00:22:08,862 that may have also wanted Brenda dead. 493 00:22:08,895 --> 00:22:10,296 Her own cousin, Tammy. 494 00:22:10,330 --> 00:22:12,098 Tammy was having an affair with Raymond 495 00:22:12,132 --> 00:22:14,567 and moved in just days after Brenda's disappearance 496 00:22:14,601 --> 00:22:17,137 and married him about as quickly as legally possible. 497 00:22:17,170 --> 00:22:19,305 - Hi. - Hi. 498 00:22:19,339 --> 00:22:21,141 Hey, Bonnie. How you doing? 499 00:22:22,475 --> 00:22:24,110 All right. 500 00:22:24,144 --> 00:22:25,812 Tammy's mother, Bonnie, has always defended her. 501 00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:27,380 But what we want to know 502 00:22:27,414 --> 00:22:29,082 is what is she going to tell us today? 503 00:22:29,115 --> 00:22:30,550 Tammy and Raymond are no longer together. 504 00:22:30,583 --> 00:22:33,086 And after all, Brenda is her own niece. 505 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,521 You know why we're here? 506 00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:37,323 Yeah. 507 00:22:48,501 --> 00:22:50,203 Right. 508 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,255 - Raymond did? - Raymond did. 509 00:23:09,289 --> 00:23:11,057 That's that Sunday night? 510 00:23:24,137 --> 00:23:26,139 According to Bonnie, Raymond called 511 00:23:26,172 --> 00:23:28,341 asking about Brenda at about 11 o'clock, 512 00:23:28,375 --> 00:23:30,310 about an hour before he showed up 513 00:23:30,343 --> 00:23:32,545 at Brenda's sister's house stating he was looking for her. 514 00:23:32,579 --> 00:23:35,448 This sounds a lot like he was trying to craft an alibi. 515 00:23:35,482 --> 00:23:36,716 What did you think right away 516 00:23:36,750 --> 00:23:38,084 when you couldn't get hold of her? 517 00:23:52,232 --> 00:23:54,601 Brenda's daughter states that she saw Raymond 518 00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:57,804 and his late father on and off the mountain all night. 519 00:23:57,837 --> 00:23:59,372 Did Brenda's threat to Raymond's family 520 00:23:59,406 --> 00:24:01,341 get them involved with what happened to her? 521 00:24:01,374 --> 00:24:03,510 Or is Bonnie just pointing fingers away from her daughter? 522 00:24:03,543 --> 00:24:06,312 Unfortunately, Brenda's own daughter is not alive 523 00:24:06,346 --> 00:24:07,781 to confirm this story. 524 00:24:07,814 --> 00:24:09,449 And Raymond's dad is not alive either. 525 00:24:09,482 --> 00:24:11,551 But things are definitely getting interesting. 526 00:24:11,584 --> 00:24:14,888 Did Tammy ever ask Raymond if he killed Brenda? 527 00:24:23,797 --> 00:24:25,131 Really? 528 00:24:59,332 --> 00:25:01,067 Okay, I'm gonna put my camera right here 529 00:25:01,701 --> 00:25:03,770 and film you from the back seat. 530 00:25:03,803 --> 00:25:06,039 - Okay. - Joe has made contact 531 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:08,675 with a confidential informant claiming to have information 532 00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:12,746 about both Brenda Lambert and Mark Cook's disappearance. 533 00:25:12,779 --> 00:25:15,715 We've heard that there's no truth to the fact 534 00:25:15,749 --> 00:25:18,051 that Branda and Mark were having an affair, 535 00:25:18,051 --> 00:25:19,919 but is it possible that their disappearances 536 00:25:19,953 --> 00:25:22,222 might still be connected in some other way? 537 00:25:22,255 --> 00:25:24,891 You told me about two murders that you knew about. 538 00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:27,894 Start from there. 539 00:25:50,183 --> 00:25:53,920 We heard that Mark Cook was last seen at Pedro's Bar, 540 00:25:53,953 --> 00:25:56,289 which is consistent with this story, 541 00:25:56,322 --> 00:25:59,125 as are many of the other details we're hearing. 542 00:25:59,159 --> 00:26:01,928 I'm not sure that with just this one witness, 543 00:26:02,028 --> 00:26:05,465 you would be able to prove in court who killed Mark. 544 00:26:05,498 --> 00:26:08,435 But according to this witness, it wasn't Raymond. 545 00:26:08,468 --> 00:26:11,604 So, when you heard all these stories floating around town 546 00:26:11,638 --> 00:26:13,940 about Brenda's murder being connected 547 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,475 to Mark Cook's murder 548 00:26:15,508 --> 00:26:17,310 because maybe they were messing around. 549 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,048 Never flirted that you saw? 550 00:26:23,283 --> 00:26:25,719 What's the best information you've ever heard 551 00:26:25,752 --> 00:26:29,856 or come up with as to what happened to Brenda? 552 00:27:03,223 --> 00:27:05,025 Have you ever heard anything 553 00:27:05,058 --> 00:27:08,294 or do you have any ideas on where Raymond would've put-- 554 00:27:19,939 --> 00:27:22,575 Brenda's sister told us that Brenda threatened to go 555 00:27:22,609 --> 00:27:24,511 to the sheriff's department with information 556 00:27:24,544 --> 00:27:26,112 on Rayond's family, 557 00:27:26,146 --> 00:27:28,848 and their daughter allegedly saw Raymond 558 00:27:28,882 --> 00:27:32,519 with his father on and off the mountain all that night. 559 00:27:32,552 --> 00:27:35,355 When you add what this informant is saying 560 00:27:35,388 --> 00:27:38,458 to all the other credible witnesses that we have, 561 00:27:38,491 --> 00:27:41,494 this is a big deal. This is good information. 562 00:27:51,471 --> 00:27:53,673 *** 563 00:27:55,542 --> 00:27:57,344 Okay, she's home. I see her car. 564 00:27:57,377 --> 00:28:00,113 We feel that we can eliminate the idea 565 00:28:00,146 --> 00:28:02,282 that there was any connection between the disappearance 566 00:28:02,315 --> 00:28:04,117 of Brenda Lambert and Mark Cook, 567 00:28:04,150 --> 00:28:06,453 which means that we can focus our attention 568 00:28:06,486 --> 00:28:08,421 back on Raymond and Tammy. 569 00:28:08,455 --> 00:28:10,056 You must be Miss Tammy. 570 00:28:10,090 --> 00:28:11,691 Yes, I am. 571 00:28:11,725 --> 00:28:14,194 We believe that Brenda's husband, Raymond, 572 00:28:14,227 --> 00:28:17,030 and his late father may be involved, 573 00:28:17,030 --> 00:28:18,932 but we need to consider that her cousin, Tammy, 574 00:28:19,032 --> 00:28:20,767 may have been too. 575 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,603 If she played a part, maybe she'll implicate herself 576 00:28:23,636 --> 00:28:25,405 or if she knows anything 577 00:28:25,438 --> 00:28:27,407 about Raymond's possible involvement, 578 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,910 now that they're divorced, maybe she'll tell us that. 579 00:28:30,944 --> 00:28:33,346 Let's talk about the birthday party day again, 580 00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:35,949 July the 26th, 1992. 581 00:28:36,049 --> 00:28:40,120 Everybody started leaving and Raymond told me 582 00:28:40,153 --> 00:28:42,522 that his mom and dad was going to take the kids 583 00:28:42,555 --> 00:28:44,524 on the mountain. 584 00:28:44,557 --> 00:28:49,429 That next day, me and her sisters went to the house. 585 00:28:49,462 --> 00:28:53,933 Brenda's purse was there, car keys was there, 586 00:28:53,967 --> 00:28:56,069 but no sign of Brenda. 587 00:28:56,069 --> 00:29:00,407 I didn't think nothing of him doing anything at that time. 588 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,309 It's kind of odd that Tammy didn't think that much 589 00:29:03,343 --> 00:29:06,312 about Brenda going missing, especially when it feels like 590 00:29:06,346 --> 00:29:08,314 everybody else knew about Raymond's abuse. 591 00:29:08,348 --> 00:29:11,618 Then again, Tammy was in a relationship with Raymond, 592 00:29:11,651 --> 00:29:13,286 and she was crazy about him, 593 00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:15,088 so maybe she was blinded by love. 594 00:29:15,121 --> 00:29:19,359 In 1991, you moved to West Virginia with your mom, 595 00:29:19,392 --> 00:29:21,428 and you knew you had these cousins, 596 00:29:21,461 --> 00:29:22,929 Brenda and her sisters, 597 00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:24,464 but y'all never had family reunions 598 00:29:24,497 --> 00:29:26,099 or hung out or anything like that? 599 00:29:26,132 --> 00:29:29,469 No. I didn't know Brenda and Raymond was married. 600 00:29:29,502 --> 00:29:32,472 He wasn't with Brenda when I met him. 601 00:29:32,505 --> 00:29:35,375 But then Brenda was going out with us 602 00:29:35,408 --> 00:29:37,143 and talking to us and stuff, 603 00:29:37,177 --> 00:29:39,245 and she-- she told us she was done with him. 604 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,147 She didn't want nothing else to do with him. 605 00:29:41,181 --> 00:29:44,050 Okay, so what did she tell you about him being abusive, 606 00:29:44,050 --> 00:29:46,052 if anything? 607 00:29:46,086 --> 00:29:48,755 She didn't tell me nothing about him being abusive to her. 608 00:29:48,788 --> 00:29:50,724 - Okay. - Nothing. 609 00:29:50,757 --> 00:29:53,093 Because we can't figure out why you would want to date a man 610 00:29:53,126 --> 00:29:54,828 that you thought was abusive to Brenda. 611 00:29:54,861 --> 00:29:57,530 I mean, yeah, I know what y'all are thinking. 612 00:29:57,564 --> 00:29:59,566 Like, this is a married man and woman. 613 00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:01,134 Here you come in the picture, 614 00:30:01,167 --> 00:30:04,371 and then you probably will sit there 615 00:30:04,404 --> 00:30:07,040 and kill her over him and stuff. 616 00:30:07,073 --> 00:30:09,476 No, I'm not that type of person 617 00:30:09,509 --> 00:30:12,712 that I'd never, ever hurt nobody over a man. 618 00:30:12,746 --> 00:30:14,514 They were having problems 619 00:30:14,547 --> 00:30:17,150 way before I even came in the picture. 620 00:30:17,183 --> 00:30:19,019 I'm not making excuses for me. 621 00:30:19,052 --> 00:30:23,023 Believe me, I'm living with it every day 622 00:30:23,056 --> 00:30:26,893 that I got with a married man. 623 00:30:26,926 --> 00:30:29,896 What all did Raymond tell you about 624 00:30:29,929 --> 00:30:33,199 what he thought about his marriage with Brenda? 625 00:30:33,233 --> 00:30:36,269 I remember one time Raymond telling me, 626 00:30:36,302 --> 00:30:38,271 he said that she went to go, 627 00:30:38,304 --> 00:30:40,240 she was going to go file for divorce, 628 00:30:40,273 --> 00:30:41,808 and there was no way he was going 629 00:30:41,841 --> 00:30:43,910 to let her have the house and the kids. 630 00:30:43,943 --> 00:30:45,478 Raymond is the type of man, 631 00:30:45,512 --> 00:30:48,281 what's his is his and what was mine was his. 632 00:30:48,314 --> 00:30:52,452 At the time, I thought she actually ran off. 633 00:30:52,485 --> 00:30:55,221 But then, when things started going by, 634 00:30:55,255 --> 00:30:58,591 like her kid graduating, her mom passing 635 00:30:58,625 --> 00:31:05,365 and she didn't come back then, then I started thinking 636 00:31:05,398 --> 00:31:06,900 she didn't run off. 637 00:31:06,933 --> 00:31:08,902 And then when you started thinking that, 638 00:31:08,935 --> 00:31:10,870 did you start asking Raymond any questions? 639 00:31:10,904 --> 00:31:12,472 Why not? 640 00:31:12,505 --> 00:31:14,641 I was scared to death to ask him anything. 641 00:31:14,674 --> 00:31:17,644 - Because? - Because he was abusive. 642 00:31:17,677 --> 00:31:20,480 He would smack you, he would choke you. 643 00:31:20,513 --> 00:31:23,983 He would backhand me with his hand and black my eye. 644 00:31:24,084 --> 00:31:25,952 He was taking women to the house. 645 00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:28,088 I caught him at work with a hooker. 646 00:31:28,088 --> 00:31:29,723 You start seeing him do this. 647 00:31:31,424 --> 00:31:33,426 He's lying. He's lying. 648 00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:36,363 I learned that over the years. [laughing] 649 00:31:36,396 --> 00:31:38,832 He gets like an itch when he's or he's-- 650 00:31:38,865 --> 00:31:40,200 - Or he's-- - He's really fidgety. 651 00:31:40,233 --> 00:31:43,136 Yeah, yawning or something. 652 00:31:43,169 --> 00:31:45,505 As you started figuring out what he was really like 653 00:31:45,538 --> 00:31:48,441 and you were with him and abused by him, 654 00:31:48,475 --> 00:31:50,610 did you ever try to put together in your head 655 00:31:50,643 --> 00:31:53,179 what happened exactly to Brenda? 656 00:31:53,213 --> 00:31:56,549 Raymond's sister, she said that Raymond 657 00:31:56,583 --> 00:32:00,854 and his dad left the mountain that night 658 00:32:00,887 --> 00:32:03,356 and they was gone for hours. 659 00:32:03,390 --> 00:32:07,794 And when they came back, they went to the sawmill. 660 00:32:07,827 --> 00:32:10,296 This is the second time we've heard 661 00:32:10,330 --> 00:32:12,699 that Raymond and his dad were acting strangely 662 00:32:12,732 --> 00:32:14,434 on the mountain that night 663 00:32:14,467 --> 00:32:17,203 and that their family sawmill was involved. 664 00:32:17,237 --> 00:32:21,374 Did they use that to dispose of or hide Brenda's body? 665 00:32:21,408 --> 00:32:23,643 I'm just remembering him telling me 666 00:32:23,677 --> 00:32:26,079 that that in the state of West Virginia, 667 00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:28,148 it's the law that you have to have a body 668 00:32:28,181 --> 00:32:29,983 to convict somebody. 669 00:32:30,083 --> 00:32:31,618 - Raymond said that? - Yeah. 670 00:32:31,651 --> 00:32:33,086 That is not true. 671 00:32:33,086 --> 00:32:34,988 So, do you think Raymond did it now? 672 00:32:35,088 --> 00:32:38,858 I think he's capable of it, to tell you the God's truth. 673 00:32:53,006 --> 00:32:54,341 So, if he's not here, 674 00:32:55,375 --> 00:32:57,844 we'll try to get a phone number for him and all that. 675 00:32:57,877 --> 00:33:00,246 We've got one last person to talk to 676 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,682 about the 1992 disappearance of Brenda Lambert, 677 00:33:02,716 --> 00:33:06,319 her husband, and our prime suspect, Raymond Lambert. 678 00:33:06,353 --> 00:33:08,455 He's been characterized as abusive and combative. 679 00:33:08,488 --> 00:33:11,291 So, we're not expecting him to invite us in for a drink. 680 00:33:11,324 --> 00:33:13,360 [knocking on door] 681 00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:18,465 Hey, Raymond. How you doing? 682 00:33:18,498 --> 00:33:20,200 Sorry, to bother you so early in the morning. 683 00:33:20,233 --> 00:33:22,302 I'm with the sheriff's department. How you been? 684 00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:26,139 So, I came to talk to you about Brenda. 685 00:33:26,172 --> 00:33:28,074 We just want to, you know, 686 00:33:28,074 --> 00:33:30,343 see if we can close this out once and for all. 687 00:33:30,377 --> 00:33:33,146 You haven't heard from Brenda in the last 30 years at all, 688 00:33:47,961 --> 00:33:49,896 We want to see if Raymond says now 689 00:33:49,929 --> 00:33:51,598 what he said 30 years ago. 690 00:33:51,631 --> 00:33:53,366 How much of his story has changed 691 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,102 and if he truly believes that Brenda simply ran away, 692 00:33:56,102 --> 00:33:59,105 is he angry that she left him to raise their kids? 693 00:33:59,105 --> 00:34:01,441 You didn't think it was funny that Brenda just takes off, 694 00:34:01,474 --> 00:34:04,310 leaves you and the kids behind? wNo car, no money? 695 00:34:06,046 --> 00:34:08,615 Yeah. Yeah. How was your marriage going? 696 00:34:14,054 --> 00:34:15,588 Right, I understand that. 697 00:34:16,589 --> 00:34:18,458 Did you try to make an attempt to find Brenda? 698 00:34:18,491 --> 00:34:20,293 And nobody could find her? 699 00:34:20,326 --> 00:34:22,629 So what do you remember about that day, that Sunday? 700 00:34:22,662 --> 00:34:24,164 Was Brenda in a good mood? 701 00:34:25,632 --> 00:34:27,534 Why? 702 00:34:27,567 --> 00:34:29,569 You don't think it had anything to do with the fact 703 00:34:29,602 --> 00:34:31,404 that Tammy shows up 704 00:34:31,438 --> 00:34:33,406 and she knows that you and Tammy are doing the nasty? 705 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,442 Were you already having a relationship with Tammy? 706 00:34:36,676 --> 00:34:38,078 Right. 707 00:34:39,946 --> 00:34:41,481 So, does Brenda suspect 708 00:34:41,514 --> 00:34:42,982 that you're screwing around with Tammy? 709 00:34:43,083 --> 00:34:44,184 There wasn't? 710 00:34:44,951 --> 00:34:46,553 She knew that? She knew that? 711 00:34:47,454 --> 00:34:49,255 And she wasn't upset about it? 712 00:34:49,289 --> 00:34:51,825 Okay. Were you and Brenda having sex at that time, too, 713 00:34:51,858 --> 00:34:53,293 or was it pretty much over with? 714 00:34:53,326 --> 00:34:54,394 No? 715 00:34:55,362 --> 00:34:56,996 In relation to the day she goes missing, right, 716 00:34:57,097 --> 00:34:58,598 that Sunday? 717 00:34:58,631 --> 00:35:00,333 When's the last time you had sex with Brenda? 718 00:35:03,203 --> 00:35:04,804 By Friday. 719 00:35:04,838 --> 00:35:06,706 Raymond is trying to sell us the idea 720 00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:08,641 that everybody was fine with him sleeping with everybody, 721 00:35:08,675 --> 00:35:12,145 and that Brenda didn't mind, but I'm not buying that. 722 00:35:12,178 --> 00:35:13,813 Were you the last one to leave the party, 723 00:35:13,847 --> 00:35:15,148 or do you remember that? 724 00:35:27,227 --> 00:35:29,062 Tammy told us that when Raymond lies, 725 00:35:29,062 --> 00:35:31,831 he gets restless, moving his shoulders and stretching. 726 00:35:31,865 --> 00:35:33,767 It looks like he's a bit uncomfortable 727 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,169 about the important details of what happened that night. 728 00:35:36,202 --> 00:35:39,339 When you start seeing him do this... 729 00:35:39,372 --> 00:35:41,441 he's lying. Or he's-- 730 00:35:41,474 --> 00:35:44,477 - He's really fidgety? - Yeah. Yawning or something. 731 00:35:44,511 --> 00:35:47,080 Now, did she want your daughter to stay with her that night? 732 00:35:52,352 --> 00:35:55,588 Right. Right. So Brenda wasn't a great mom? 733 00:35:58,792 --> 00:36:01,828 Earlier that month, Brenda reported domestic violence 734 00:36:01,861 --> 00:36:03,797 and sought an order of protection. Is that true? 735 00:36:05,398 --> 00:36:06,933 Against you, or what was the deal? 736 00:36:08,702 --> 00:36:09,769 Why would that have been, sir? 737 00:36:14,107 --> 00:36:15,575 But there was no domestic violence? 738 00:36:15,608 --> 00:36:17,043 Nothing? 739 00:36:17,043 --> 00:36:18,078 You never choked her? 740 00:36:19,579 --> 00:36:21,047 Did you ever point a gun at her? 741 00:36:21,348 --> 00:36:23,116 Never did? 742 00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:25,652 Kay told us that Raymond strangled Brenda 743 00:36:25,685 --> 00:36:27,253 on multiple occasions, 744 00:36:27,287 --> 00:36:28,922 and Tammy said that he strangled her too. 745 00:36:28,955 --> 00:36:31,057 It seems like Raymond's stretching the truth 746 00:36:31,091 --> 00:36:32,826 as much as his shoulders. 747 00:36:32,859 --> 00:36:34,928 Does your family still own that sawmill property? 748 00:36:42,869 --> 00:36:45,372 No. Your family doesn't own the land up there? 749 00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:50,744 Would he gave us consensus 750 00:36:50,777 --> 00:36:52,312 to walk around to look at the property, 751 00:36:52,345 --> 00:36:53,446 you think, for Brenda's body, or-- 752 00:37:01,855 --> 00:37:04,257 Well, I don't have any other questions. Do you, sir? 753 00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:06,059 All right, I really appreciate you talking. 754 00:37:06,092 --> 00:37:07,794 We may have to come back, all right. 755 00:37:07,827 --> 00:37:09,496 First, Raymond says that his family doesn't own 756 00:37:09,529 --> 00:37:11,398 that property, but then that they do. 757 00:37:11,431 --> 00:37:13,633 And now, he tells us that it's too overgrown to be useful 758 00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:15,468 in any type of a police search. 759 00:37:15,502 --> 00:37:18,138 That, ladies and gentlemen, is a classic flip flop. 760 00:37:19,739 --> 00:37:21,274 Oh, interesting guy. 761 00:37:21,307 --> 00:37:22,776 Very. 762 00:37:22,809 --> 00:37:24,411 Did you see how he acted, though? 763 00:37:24,444 --> 00:37:26,479 - The look on his face. - I know, I know. 764 00:37:26,513 --> 00:37:30,817 I was like-- That was a tell to me. I thought. 765 00:37:40,126 --> 00:37:41,928 - Good morning, good morning. - Good morning. 766 00:37:42,462 --> 00:37:44,164 Hey buddy, how you doing? 767 00:37:44,197 --> 00:37:46,066 We've uncovered a lot of circumstantial evidence 768 00:37:46,099 --> 00:37:48,535 about the disappearance of Brenda Lambert 769 00:37:48,568 --> 00:37:50,337 and the possible connection 770 00:37:50,370 --> 00:37:52,706 to the disappearance of Mark Cook. 771 00:37:52,739 --> 00:37:57,677 Do we believe that what happened to Mark Cook 772 00:37:57,711 --> 00:38:01,348 is related to what happened to Brenda Lambert? 773 00:38:01,381 --> 00:38:04,384 I have enough confidence in both of these cases 774 00:38:04,417 --> 00:38:06,019 that it's not. 775 00:38:06,052 --> 00:38:08,321 Did we hear one single piece of evidence-- 776 00:38:08,355 --> 00:38:10,156 - No. - That makes us think 777 00:38:10,190 --> 00:38:11,891 - that they are connected? - No. 778 00:38:11,925 --> 00:38:13,693 Not at all. Despite the rumors, 779 00:38:13,727 --> 00:38:17,030 there's no evidence that Brenda and Mark 780 00:38:17,063 --> 00:38:18,865 were in a relationship 781 00:38:18,898 --> 00:38:20,667 or that there's any connection to their disappearances. 782 00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:24,337 Their disappearances seem to be just a tragic coincidence. 783 00:38:24,371 --> 00:38:27,207 So, the link is done. 784 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,210 Okay, let's talk about the suspects in Brenda's case, 785 00:38:30,243 --> 00:38:32,112 Tammy Lambert. 786 00:38:32,145 --> 00:38:34,047 We're trying to say because she hooked up with Raymond 787 00:38:34,047 --> 00:38:36,182 so close after the disappearance of Brenda 788 00:38:36,216 --> 00:38:37,717 that she's involved with this. 789 00:38:37,751 --> 00:38:39,386 I don't think that's true at all. 790 00:38:39,419 --> 00:38:41,688 I think Tammy's young, she's impressionable. 791 00:38:41,721 --> 00:38:44,958 She's been scared to death for 30 years. 792 00:38:45,058 --> 00:38:48,294 Not only is Tammy not involved 793 00:38:48,328 --> 00:38:50,864 or guilty at all in what happened to Brenda, 794 00:38:50,897 --> 00:38:52,732 she's going to be your best part of your case. 795 00:38:52,766 --> 00:38:54,100 She's going to be your best witness. 796 00:38:54,134 --> 00:38:55,902 Yeah. 797 00:38:55,935 --> 00:38:58,605 Tammy was having an affair with Brenda's husband, 798 00:38:58,638 --> 00:39:01,041 but she's always been honest about it 799 00:39:01,074 --> 00:39:03,209 and believed their marriage was over. 800 00:39:03,243 --> 00:39:06,212 She has always been cooperative with the investigation. 801 00:39:06,246 --> 00:39:08,181 She was cooperative with us. 802 00:39:08,214 --> 00:39:10,784 She never hesitated to answer any of our questions, 803 00:39:10,817 --> 00:39:12,886 even the very difficult questions. 804 00:39:12,919 --> 00:39:15,922 In some ways, Tammy was a victim here, too. 805 00:39:16,022 --> 00:39:18,591 Last but not least, Raymond Lambert. 806 00:39:18,625 --> 00:39:20,126 Let's be real honest. 807 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,028 You think she ran off with some man 808 00:39:22,028 --> 00:39:23,697 and left her babies behind with no shoes, 809 00:39:23,730 --> 00:39:25,865 no purse, no car, no money? 810 00:39:25,899 --> 00:39:27,767 - No way. - Hell no. 811 00:39:27,801 --> 00:39:29,569 That's his defense. 812 00:39:29,602 --> 00:39:32,072 She ran off and left her babies for their whole lives. 813 00:39:32,105 --> 00:39:33,940 Okay, bull[bleep]. 814 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,608 She loved her kids 815 00:39:35,642 --> 00:39:37,677 and she would not let them kids go with Raymond. 816 00:39:37,711 --> 00:39:39,212 I guarantee it. 817 00:39:39,245 --> 00:39:40,680 So, the day of the birthday party, 818 00:39:40,714 --> 00:39:42,549 Brenda's acting funny by all accounts. 819 00:39:42,582 --> 00:39:44,217 Their marriage was falling apart. 820 00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:45,885 So, he didn't want to get divorced 821 00:39:45,919 --> 00:39:47,520 because he knew he could either lose the kids 822 00:39:47,554 --> 00:39:49,122 or have to split up custody, huh? 823 00:39:53,326 --> 00:39:55,495 She knew the day of the birthday party was going to be 824 00:39:55,528 --> 00:39:57,664 a day of reckoning, and they were about to get into it. 825 00:39:57,697 --> 00:39:59,232 She was about to leave him forever 826 00:39:59,265 --> 00:40:01,167 or try to and keep his house. 827 00:40:01,201 --> 00:40:04,170 This man that put fingers on her neck 828 00:40:04,204 --> 00:40:05,905 and tried to strangle 829 00:40:05,939 --> 00:40:07,874 her and beat the [bleep] out of her for many years. 830 00:40:17,183 --> 00:40:20,286 I think Raymond, her got into an argument. 831 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,288 He's done something. 832 00:40:22,322 --> 00:40:26,760 And he went to his daddy and said, "Hey, I'm in trouble." 833 00:40:26,793 --> 00:40:28,728 And he said, "Let's take care of it." 834 00:40:37,303 --> 00:40:38,972 And then what else happened? 835 00:40:39,005 --> 00:40:41,207 According to the sisters, about 11:00 that night... 836 00:40:49,115 --> 00:40:50,917 - Why's he worried about Brenda? - He just left. 837 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:52,986 That's weird. Use your common sense. 838 00:40:53,019 --> 00:40:56,189 When you start seeing him do this, he's lying. 839 00:40:56,222 --> 00:40:58,224 - Or he's-- - Just really fidgety. 840 00:40:58,258 --> 00:41:00,193 Yeah, and yawning. 841 00:41:00,226 --> 00:41:01,795 Were you the last one to leave the party? 842 00:41:07,067 --> 00:41:10,070 Tammy and Brenda's sisters and Bonnie, 843 00:41:10,103 --> 00:41:11,738 they're all believable, 844 00:41:11,771 --> 00:41:13,640 and they're all telling you the same thing. 845 00:41:13,673 --> 00:41:15,508 He's the person that had the motive 846 00:41:15,542 --> 00:41:17,577 and the opportunity and the means. 847 00:41:17,610 --> 00:41:20,080 Your case is never going to get any better than is right now. 848 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,916 We want Raymond Lambert arrested for first degree murder. 849 00:41:22,949 --> 00:41:24,551 Nice. Nice. 850 00:41:24,584 --> 00:41:26,886 Circumstantial evidence cases don't always 851 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,555 get better than this. 852 00:41:28,588 --> 00:41:30,657 And it's time for us to present everything 853 00:41:30,690 --> 00:41:32,325 that we've learned 854 00:41:32,359 --> 00:41:33,827 to the Mercer County prosecuting attorney. 855 00:41:33,860 --> 00:41:35,095 Good luck, man. 856 00:41:35,095 --> 00:41:39,399 *** 857 00:41:51,344 --> 00:41:55,315 Never got to do this kind of news delivery before 858 00:41:55,348 --> 00:41:56,916 in your career, or have you? 859 00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:59,252 - No, I have not. - After all these years, 860 00:41:59,285 --> 00:42:01,287 you get to be the guy that tells them some news. 861 00:42:01,321 --> 00:42:03,523 Feels great. I'm so excited. 862 00:42:03,556 --> 00:42:05,959 There's no way we could have got this close at all 863 00:42:06,059 --> 00:42:08,361 without the help from Cold Justice.No way at all. 864 00:42:08,395 --> 00:42:10,897 I'm retiring in a month. 865 00:42:10,930 --> 00:42:13,633 I wanted to see if I still had it, 866 00:42:13,667 --> 00:42:15,402 to be able to close a case. 867 00:42:15,435 --> 00:42:17,637 This is the hardest case the department had. 868 00:42:17,671 --> 00:42:19,639 And I'm ready to go in front of the family. 869 00:42:19,673 --> 00:42:22,075 And I feel good about it. 870 00:42:22,108 --> 00:42:24,444 So, I had a meeting with the prosecutor. 871 00:42:24,477 --> 00:42:26,079 Okay. 872 00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:28,314 He wants to look at a few things. 873 00:42:28,348 --> 00:42:30,850 I don't want to go into too much specifics, 874 00:42:30,884 --> 00:42:33,086 but they are really, really good. 875 00:42:33,086 --> 00:42:34,921 Mmm. Okay. 876 00:42:35,989 --> 00:42:38,892 Things are gonna start moving like you've never seen. 877 00:42:38,925 --> 00:42:40,727 I mean, it's already have. 878 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,462 I mean, it's already moved further 879 00:42:42,495 --> 00:42:44,597 than I've ever seen it move. I want to tell you, 880 00:42:44,631 --> 00:42:46,433 I appreciate everyone of y'all for what you do. 881 00:42:46,466 --> 00:42:47,901 You're very welcome. 882 00:42:47,934 --> 00:42:49,369 I'm kind of lost for words. 883 00:42:50,904 --> 00:42:52,772 It's really hard to let that sink in 884 00:42:52,806 --> 00:42:56,876 after 30 years of really not having a lot of hope. 885 00:42:56,910 --> 00:42:59,479 It's been hard carrying this on my shoulders 886 00:42:59,512 --> 00:43:02,282 and it just feels like it's just been lifted up off of me. 887 00:43:02,315 --> 00:43:03,583 It's a lot of relief. 888 00:43:03,616 --> 00:43:05,652 It's a good case, okay? 889 00:43:05,685 --> 00:43:07,153 I know you want to find your sister. 890 00:43:07,187 --> 00:43:09,055 - I understand that. - Yes. 891 00:43:09,055 --> 00:43:11,491 But he's got your prosecutor ready to move forward. 892 00:43:11,524 --> 00:43:13,960 Maybe even without finding her, okay. 893 00:43:14,060 --> 00:43:16,696 - I'd like to find her still. - I know, I know. 894 00:43:16,730 --> 00:43:18,465 It is a needed thing for closure. 895 00:43:18,498 --> 00:43:20,633 - I know. I understand. - Bringing her back home, 896 00:43:20,667 --> 00:43:23,370 putting her beside my mom, that way we can heal. 897 00:43:23,403 --> 00:43:24,804 Okay. 898 00:43:24,838 --> 00:43:26,873 * There is light at the end * 899 00:43:26,906 --> 00:43:28,375 I think we all hope 900 00:43:28,408 --> 00:43:30,643 that some day Brenda's body is found 901 00:43:30,677 --> 00:43:33,680 and that her family can finally take her home. 902 00:43:35,081 --> 00:43:40,453 * Find peace in knowing you will be okay * 903 00:43:40,487 --> 00:43:46,926 ***