1 00:00:08,274 --> 00:00:09,676 [piano playing] 2 00:00:09,709 --> 00:00:12,112 She was a strong woman. 3 00:00:12,145 --> 00:00:15,215 She had good principles. 4 00:00:15,248 --> 00:00:17,517 She loved her family. 5 00:00:18,618 --> 00:00:20,353 She was outgoing. 6 00:00:20,387 --> 00:00:21,855 She was cheerful. 7 00:00:21,888 --> 00:00:23,556 She was beautiful. 8 00:00:23,590 --> 00:00:25,458 * I am made of dark things * 9 00:00:25,492 --> 00:00:26,526 * Ravagings * 10 00:00:26,559 --> 00:00:30,130 It's hard to have to think back 11 00:00:30,163 --> 00:00:33,133 to the day that we lost her. 12 00:00:33,166 --> 00:00:35,368 -*... Lightning striking * -No other mother 13 00:00:35,402 --> 00:00:36,936 should have to go through this. 14 00:00:39,105 --> 00:00:42,909 And whoever took my beautiful daughter Danyese, 15 00:00:42,942 --> 00:00:45,311 yes, we want them accountable. 16 00:00:45,345 --> 00:00:49,249 *** 17 00:00:49,282 --> 00:00:52,118 So this case makes me crazy. 18 00:00:52,152 --> 00:00:53,820 You probably like it, though. Right? 19 00:00:53,853 --> 00:00:55,755 You know, this is one of those cases, like, 20 00:00:55,789 --> 00:00:57,290 when you're a cop, it puts the fear of God 21 00:00:57,323 --> 00:00:58,725 -in your own family and stuff. -No, I know. 22 00:00:58,758 --> 00:00:59,893 Because our victim was 23 00:00:59,926 --> 00:01:02,062 coming home from work at midnight from her shift 24 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:04,064 -on Easter Sunday night... -Yep. 25 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:06,099 ...and gets snatched out of her car. 26 00:01:06,132 --> 00:01:09,502 Back in 2000, young mother Danyese Laclair 27 00:01:09,536 --> 00:01:12,072 was abducted after making 28 00:01:12,105 --> 00:01:14,574 a late night drop off at the post office. 29 00:01:14,607 --> 00:01:17,177 Her car was found abandoned, 30 00:01:17,210 --> 00:01:20,313 the windows rolled down and the engine running. 31 00:01:20,347 --> 00:01:23,116 Her partially clothed body was found in a field, 32 00:01:23,149 --> 00:01:26,086 shot in the head, execution style. 33 00:01:26,119 --> 00:01:28,521 It's every woman's worst nightmare. 34 00:01:28,555 --> 00:01:31,191 It feels like the thoughts of the family 35 00:01:31,224 --> 00:01:34,294 and the cops were all over the place on who was involved. 36 00:01:34,327 --> 00:01:37,430 I think the family has all looked inward. 37 00:01:37,464 --> 00:01:39,432 They're pointing fingers and it ruined the whole family. 38 00:01:39,466 --> 00:01:41,101 -It did. -It's just sad. 39 00:01:41,101 --> 00:01:44,170 Danyese's murder tore her family apart, 40 00:01:44,204 --> 00:01:46,806 not just because of the grief and the sadness, 41 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,608 but also because some of the family suspected 42 00:01:48,641 --> 00:01:50,443 that her husband was involved. 43 00:01:50,477 --> 00:01:52,545 Though the nature of this crime 44 00:01:52,579 --> 00:01:55,115 opens up a lot of scary possibilities. 45 00:01:55,148 --> 00:01:56,983 Right away when I read this, 46 00:01:57,017 --> 00:01:58,618 the driver's window is halfway down. 47 00:01:58,651 --> 00:02:00,553 I think of one thing, and I don't like saying it, 48 00:02:00,587 --> 00:02:03,556 and either a police impersonator or the police themselves. 49 00:02:03,590 --> 00:02:04,958 Why do you--why-- why do you jump to that? 50 00:02:05,058 --> 00:02:07,327 Because it's just so common. 51 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,162 Even I do it when the cops stop me. 52 00:02:09,195 --> 00:02:10,730 I roll the window halfway down, 53 00:02:10,764 --> 00:02:11,965 and I can just see... 54 00:02:12,065 --> 00:02:12,966 the police department is right next door. 55 00:02:13,066 --> 00:02:15,068 Across the street from the police department. 56 00:02:15,068 --> 00:02:17,070 So all of a sudden, all that stuff starts adding up 57 00:02:17,070 --> 00:02:18,571 and I don't like it. 58 00:02:18,605 --> 00:02:20,473 We know that Danyese's killer had a gun, 59 00:02:20,507 --> 00:02:22,409 but did he also carry a badge? 60 00:02:22,442 --> 00:02:24,177 With a crime like this occurring in a public area 61 00:02:24,210 --> 00:02:26,179 in the middle of the night, 62 00:02:26,212 --> 00:02:27,881 we have to consider a wider range of suspects 63 00:02:27,914 --> 00:02:29,082 than we normally do. 64 00:02:29,115 --> 00:02:31,418 We've got suspects and people 65 00:02:31,451 --> 00:02:33,753 that no one can tell you about when that happened, 66 00:02:33,787 --> 00:02:35,689 these are the things they said or how they acted 67 00:02:35,722 --> 00:02:37,157 that didn't make any sense. 68 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:39,426 But when you have a stranger 69 00:02:39,459 --> 00:02:42,262 potentially being the killer/abductor, 70 00:02:42,295 --> 00:02:44,397 there's no pieces like that to point at anybody. 71 00:02:44,431 --> 00:02:47,100 It's the kind of case which is a lot harder to do. 72 00:02:51,204 --> 00:02:52,005 -Hello, hello! -Good morning. 73 00:02:52,105 --> 00:02:53,606 -I'm Kelly. -Chief Ross. Brian Ross. 74 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:55,208 -Nice to meet you, sir. -Kevin Kissel. 75 00:02:55,241 --> 00:02:56,009 Steve Spignola. Nice to meet you, sir. 76 00:02:56,109 --> 00:02:58,111 -Nice to meet you. -Dave Powell. 77 00:02:58,111 --> 00:02:59,179 -Hey, Dave. Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you, ma'am. 78 00:02:59,212 --> 00:03:00,747 Ooh, you got a hard case, sir. 79 00:03:00,780 --> 00:03:02,515 -It is a tough one. -We need, like, a miracle. 80 00:03:02,549 --> 00:03:03,917 We do. We really do. Yeah. 81 00:03:03,950 --> 00:03:06,519 It's an absolutely difficult case. 82 00:03:06,553 --> 00:03:10,056 I go home at night and I think about it constantly. 83 00:03:10,056 --> 00:03:11,891 I think about an 11-year-old boy 84 00:03:11,925 --> 00:03:14,060 and a 3-year-old girl without their mom. 85 00:03:14,094 --> 00:03:17,263 Danyese's murder affected her children, 86 00:03:17,297 --> 00:03:19,899 every one of her loved ones, family and friends. 87 00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:22,402 It affected our community. 88 00:03:22,435 --> 00:03:24,704 For 22 years, we've been asking who's 89 00:03:24,738 --> 00:03:25,972 responsible for her death. 90 00:03:26,072 --> 00:03:28,141 My heart, my soul, my bones, 91 00:03:28,174 --> 00:03:29,142 every bit of me is in this. 92 00:03:29,175 --> 00:03:31,878 Okay, so... 93 00:03:31,911 --> 00:03:34,647 Easter Sunday night, 2000. 94 00:03:34,681 --> 00:03:36,216 So start with the front of the story. 95 00:03:36,249 --> 00:03:38,451 What's your first recollection of how this case becomes 96 00:03:38,485 --> 00:03:41,321 Burton PD's number one unsolved case? 97 00:03:41,354 --> 00:03:43,656 Danyese Laclair left her job at a local hospital 98 00:03:43,690 --> 00:03:46,092 around 11:38 p.m. 99 00:03:46,092 --> 00:03:48,995 Around midnight, her car was spotted at a post office 100 00:03:49,095 --> 00:03:51,331 across the street from the Burton Police Department. 101 00:03:51,364 --> 00:03:54,601 One of our patrol officers saw the red Cavalier 102 00:03:54,634 --> 00:03:56,803 parked at the exit, running. 103 00:03:56,836 --> 00:03:59,005 Driver's door open, window down. 104 00:03:59,105 --> 00:04:00,607 Blinker on, like, 105 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,410 just as she was ready to pull out into traffic, 106 00:04:03,443 --> 00:04:05,912 -something stopped her. -Was her purse in the car? 107 00:04:05,945 --> 00:04:08,748 -Her purse was never located. -What about her cell phone? 108 00:04:08,782 --> 00:04:11,251 Cell phone was plugged in to cigarette lighter. 109 00:04:11,284 --> 00:04:13,453 The officers at that time 110 00:04:13,486 --> 00:04:16,423 treated it as a missing person abduction case. 111 00:04:16,456 --> 00:04:18,692 The original officers had secured the scene, 112 00:04:18,725 --> 00:04:20,193 ran the plate. 113 00:04:20,226 --> 00:04:22,495 Around 02:00 a.m. a police officer was dispatched 114 00:04:22,529 --> 00:04:25,665 to the Laclair home to notify Dan Laclair 115 00:04:25,699 --> 00:04:28,535 that his wife's vehicle had been found abandoned. 116 00:04:28,568 --> 00:04:30,704 And it wasn't till later that morning 117 00:04:30,737 --> 00:04:33,807 that the office down the street opened up and 118 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:35,608 some of the employees began to notice 119 00:04:35,642 --> 00:04:37,877 some clothing in the back. 120 00:04:37,911 --> 00:04:40,146 And eventually someone walked out there 121 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:42,615 and observed it to be a body. 122 00:04:42,649 --> 00:04:45,151 She had been disrobed partially. 123 00:04:45,185 --> 00:04:48,688 She was found wearing a trench coat, underwear. 124 00:04:48,722 --> 00:04:51,124 She had been shot through the head one time. 125 00:04:51,157 --> 00:04:52,292 Close range shot. 126 00:04:52,325 --> 00:04:53,560 With what kind of weapon? 127 00:04:53,593 --> 00:04:55,662 9mm. The slug was found in the ground 128 00:04:55,695 --> 00:04:57,997 about six inches into the soil. 129 00:04:58,098 --> 00:04:59,733 To me, the weirdest thing about this whole case 130 00:04:59,766 --> 00:05:01,735 is how she's found clothed. 131 00:05:01,768 --> 00:05:03,837 All she has on is her panties and her trench coat. 132 00:05:03,870 --> 00:05:06,072 So was she sexually assaulted? 133 00:05:06,106 --> 00:05:08,742 There was no evidence or anything definitive to say. 134 00:05:08,775 --> 00:05:12,879 While aspects of this crime look like sexual assault, 135 00:05:12,912 --> 00:05:16,583 Danyese's body showed no signs of sexual trauma 136 00:05:16,616 --> 00:05:19,185 and the rape kit came back inconclusive, 137 00:05:19,219 --> 00:05:20,653 with no semen found and DNA results 138 00:05:20,687 --> 00:05:23,423 that are still unclear. 139 00:05:23,456 --> 00:05:25,392 We're going to retest the evidence 140 00:05:25,425 --> 00:05:27,827 using the most recent DNA techniques 141 00:05:27,861 --> 00:05:31,164 to see if we can find a profile matching the suspect. 142 00:05:31,197 --> 00:05:33,900 The biggest one that they focused on back then 143 00:05:33,933 --> 00:05:36,936 is going to be Danyese's husband, Dan Laclair. 144 00:05:36,970 --> 00:05:39,406 -He's kind of a jerk. -A hothead, too. 145 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:41,374 He had been in a fight in Oakland County... 146 00:05:41,408 --> 00:05:42,942 -Yes. -...where they-- 147 00:05:42,976 --> 00:05:45,378 it was a traffic-- I think, a road rage incident. 148 00:05:45,412 --> 00:05:47,280 -One road rage incident? -Yeah. 149 00:05:47,313 --> 00:05:49,082 And then the headstone issue. 150 00:05:49,115 --> 00:05:50,684 What did he do, kick her picture over? 151 00:05:50,717 --> 00:05:52,352 Yeah, he damaged the headstone 152 00:05:52,385 --> 00:05:54,888 and broke the picture off of the front of it. 153 00:05:54,921 --> 00:05:56,956 -Right. -He was actually charged with 154 00:05:56,990 --> 00:05:58,458 destruction of property. 155 00:05:58,491 --> 00:06:00,260 That was a couple of years later, wasn't it? 156 00:06:00,293 --> 00:06:01,261 MEN: Yes. 157 00:06:01,294 --> 00:06:02,529 Dan Laclair claimed 158 00:06:02,562 --> 00:06:05,031 that he was home with his kids that night, 159 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:07,267 though the officer who knocked on the door 160 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,569 thought that he acted a little unusual. 161 00:06:09,602 --> 00:06:12,939 His first reaction at, what was it, 1:40 in the morning? 162 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:14,708 And he goes, "A little late, isn't it?" 163 00:06:14,741 --> 00:06:16,910 Doesn't he also punch the door? 164 00:06:16,943 --> 00:06:18,912 -The wall. -Yes. 165 00:06:18,945 --> 00:06:21,114 It was only later that the investigators 166 00:06:21,147 --> 00:06:23,817 discovered a potential motive for Dan-- 167 00:06:23,850 --> 00:06:27,053 Danyese was having an affair with another man. 168 00:06:27,087 --> 00:06:30,557 And though that man was cleared as a suspect, 169 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:33,059 could that affair have been enough of a motive 170 00:06:33,059 --> 00:06:35,095 to drive Dan to commit murder? 171 00:06:35,128 --> 00:06:38,398 Did he even know about it before her murder? 172 00:06:38,431 --> 00:06:41,568 Y'all think that maybe Dan found out about this affair 173 00:06:41,601 --> 00:06:43,670 when he saw that letter in her car, right? 174 00:06:43,703 --> 00:06:45,672 But the letter in the car, it was returned to him 175 00:06:45,705 --> 00:06:46,606 by you guys, right? 176 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:48,274 No, it was left in the car. 177 00:06:48,308 --> 00:06:49,609 They didn't mean to give it to him. 178 00:06:49,642 --> 00:06:51,277 They left it in the car and he found it. 179 00:06:51,311 --> 00:06:53,146 Yes, it was inadvertently left behind, 180 00:06:53,179 --> 00:06:55,081 and it was a short handwritten letter 181 00:06:55,081 --> 00:06:57,183 that said, you know, some supportive messages. 182 00:06:57,217 --> 00:06:59,819 Yeah, "Thanks for helping me," and "I love you, too." 183 00:06:59,853 --> 00:07:02,022 And I know the kids were asked 184 00:07:02,022 --> 00:07:04,624 several times over the years, 185 00:07:04,657 --> 00:07:06,860 "Is there more to that night that you don't want to tell us? 186 00:07:06,893 --> 00:07:08,161 Please tell us," and they never have, right? 187 00:07:08,194 --> 00:07:09,596 -Right. -And they believe 188 00:07:09,629 --> 00:07:12,032 their dad didn't do it. 189 00:07:12,032 --> 00:07:15,201 Okay, next on the list, Ralph Vanucci. 190 00:07:15,235 --> 00:07:17,771 How does he get in the middle of our world? 191 00:07:17,804 --> 00:07:21,307 -Ralph worked with Danyese. -He was an x-ray tech. 192 00:07:21,341 --> 00:07:23,443 Yeah, they saw each other on a daily basis. 193 00:07:23,476 --> 00:07:28,048 He goes to make a pass at her, and she turns him down. 194 00:07:28,048 --> 00:07:29,716 -When is that? -About a week before. 195 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:31,785 -Yeah. -Right. 196 00:07:31,818 --> 00:07:36,056 Ralph Vanucci knew that Danyese was having this affair, 197 00:07:36,056 --> 00:07:39,125 so he made a little pass at her, but she rejected him. 198 00:07:39,159 --> 00:07:41,795 So how upset was he about that? 199 00:07:41,828 --> 00:07:45,198 Could that have caused him to follow her after work one night 200 00:07:45,231 --> 00:07:46,833 and did he kill her over that? 201 00:07:46,866 --> 00:07:49,836 Ralph had a rough background. 202 00:07:49,869 --> 00:07:52,906 He had a son pass away due to a drowning. 203 00:07:52,939 --> 00:07:55,508 And that was just, like, five months earlier. 204 00:07:55,542 --> 00:07:57,844 Yeah, and so that caused a lot of grief, 205 00:07:57,877 --> 00:07:59,746 a lot of stress within the home. 206 00:07:59,779 --> 00:08:01,247 In fact, he was going through a second divorce because of it. 207 00:08:01,281 --> 00:08:06,419 Okay, so unknown suspect. Scary as hell. 208 00:08:06,453 --> 00:08:08,655 Do we agree it's not a robbery? 209 00:08:08,688 --> 00:08:09,856 Well, she's missing her purse. 210 00:08:09,889 --> 00:08:11,491 The purse was never located. 211 00:08:11,524 --> 00:08:12,692 Credit cards were all flagged 212 00:08:12,726 --> 00:08:14,027 -and none were ever used. -But never used. 213 00:08:14,027 --> 00:08:15,395 -Never used. -Okay. 214 00:08:15,428 --> 00:08:17,430 -Where she was abducted... -Where the car was found 215 00:08:17,464 --> 00:08:20,400 is right across the street from the police department. 216 00:08:20,433 --> 00:08:23,269 It's a clear view to the police department, 217 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:25,772 a 24/7-hour operation. 218 00:08:25,805 --> 00:08:28,375 I suppose there's a possibility 219 00:08:28,408 --> 00:08:31,077 that whoever had done this to Danyese 220 00:08:31,111 --> 00:08:33,246 didn't know it was the police department, 221 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,882 but I really find that hard to believe. 222 00:08:35,915 --> 00:08:37,050 Risky. 223 00:08:37,083 --> 00:08:38,551 What happens at the post office? 224 00:08:38,585 --> 00:08:41,287 Why would she not fight, run, scream? 225 00:08:41,321 --> 00:08:42,922 Why does she give up so voluntarily, 226 00:08:42,956 --> 00:08:44,591 a woman who's taken karate lessons? 227 00:08:44,624 --> 00:08:47,460 Unless you think the guy that's pulling you over... 228 00:08:47,494 --> 00:08:49,195 -Yeah, I mean... -...is a police officer. 229 00:08:49,229 --> 00:08:51,364 Put the windows half down. 230 00:08:51,398 --> 00:08:53,466 And I'm not saying this couldn't be an impersonator 231 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:56,136 or a security guard who's just driving by, too. 232 00:08:56,169 --> 00:08:59,806 Wouldn't you either be an idiot or super high risk-taking 233 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:01,741 -to do it right there? -Pretty bold. 234 00:09:01,775 --> 00:09:04,811 Or, if we're walking down that path, 235 00:09:04,844 --> 00:09:07,580 you have a radio, and you can hear everything 236 00:09:07,614 --> 00:09:09,282 and everywhere where everybody's at, 237 00:09:09,315 --> 00:09:13,019 and you know if it's clear or it's not. 238 00:09:13,019 --> 00:09:15,055 The police department has investigated 239 00:09:15,088 --> 00:09:17,090 this idea that Danyese was killed 240 00:09:17,123 --> 00:09:20,393 by someone of authority from the very beginning. 241 00:09:20,427 --> 00:09:23,596 And they went down that road and looked for records and logs 242 00:09:23,630 --> 00:09:26,232 of anybody that could have been involved back then, 243 00:09:26,266 --> 00:09:27,600 but they had no luck. 244 00:09:27,634 --> 00:09:29,636 Whoever committed this crime, 245 00:09:29,669 --> 00:09:31,404 we got our work cut out for us. 246 00:09:31,438 --> 00:09:33,773 All right, get your notes. 247 00:09:38,044 --> 00:09:39,746 Danyese's mom, Dianne Parrish, 248 00:09:39,779 --> 00:09:42,148 when you called her up to tell her you were looking 249 00:09:42,182 --> 00:09:44,184 at the case again, how'd she take it? 250 00:09:44,217 --> 00:09:48,054 She immediately got emotional that we haven't given up yet. 251 00:09:48,054 --> 00:09:51,291 We reached out to Danyese and Dan's children 252 00:09:51,324 --> 00:09:53,293 to talk to us and share their story, 253 00:09:53,326 --> 00:09:55,829 but they didn't want to do that. 254 00:09:55,862 --> 00:09:57,764 After all this time and what they've been through, 255 00:09:57,797 --> 00:09:59,199 I think it's understandable. 256 00:09:59,232 --> 00:10:00,934 Their dad is a suspect, 257 00:10:00,967 --> 00:10:03,870 and throughout all these years, they've always been adamant 258 00:10:03,903 --> 00:10:06,206 that their dad was home with them that night 259 00:10:06,239 --> 00:10:08,308 and could not have killed their mother. 260 00:10:08,341 --> 00:10:10,810 -Hello. How are you? -Hello. 261 00:10:10,844 --> 00:10:12,979 Ms. Dianne? I'm Kelly. 262 00:10:13,013 --> 00:10:15,048 -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. 263 00:10:15,081 --> 00:10:18,151 As a mother myself with two young daughters, 264 00:10:18,184 --> 00:10:19,886 Dianne, Danyese's mother, 265 00:10:19,919 --> 00:10:22,055 has lived through the worst thing imaginable-- 266 00:10:22,088 --> 00:10:24,791 thinking about her daughter out by herself, 267 00:10:24,824 --> 00:10:27,360 vulnerable, and look what happens. 268 00:10:27,394 --> 00:10:31,064 Worst of all, after 22 years, it's still unsolved. 269 00:10:31,097 --> 00:10:32,365 Sounds like from reading the file, 270 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:34,167 she was close to her brothers. 271 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,069 She was. 272 00:10:36,102 --> 00:10:37,871 She was my oldest. 273 00:10:37,904 --> 00:10:41,541 So I had the three sons and the one daughter. 274 00:10:41,574 --> 00:10:45,812 She was funky, she had a lot of moxie. 275 00:10:45,845 --> 00:10:49,683 She was a people person, very caring. 276 00:10:49,716 --> 00:10:53,219 Just a beautiful soul. 277 00:10:53,253 --> 00:10:55,388 At that time, were y'all aware of any 278 00:10:55,422 --> 00:10:58,525 strain or issues going on in 279 00:10:58,558 --> 00:11:00,093 Danyese's marriage with Dan? 280 00:11:00,126 --> 00:11:01,528 No. 281 00:11:01,561 --> 00:11:04,197 Danyese probably-- she didn't discuss... 282 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:06,733 -Right. -those kind of details with me. 283 00:11:06,766 --> 00:11:08,835 Go back 22 years. 284 00:11:08,868 --> 00:11:11,271 Do you remember how you first heard what happened? 285 00:11:11,304 --> 00:11:14,074 I get a call in the morning. 286 00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:17,510 Danyese's car was found at the post office 287 00:11:17,544 --> 00:11:19,279 and she's missing. 288 00:11:19,312 --> 00:11:23,583 So I jumped in a car and went over to Danyese's house. 289 00:11:23,616 --> 00:11:25,919 Dan was out in 290 00:11:25,952 --> 00:11:27,687 the little porch there with the detective. 291 00:11:34,928 --> 00:11:38,431 He said, "Yep, it's her," and he just left. 292 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,336 No emotion. He wasn't acting... 293 00:11:44,738 --> 00:11:47,540 ...like a distraught husband would do. 294 00:11:47,574 --> 00:11:50,543 He was very, uh... 295 00:11:53,313 --> 00:11:54,881 arrogant, 296 00:11:54,914 --> 00:11:59,152 very...distant, cold. 297 00:11:59,185 --> 00:12:01,154 Did you ever, in all these years, 298 00:12:01,187 --> 00:12:03,623 ask Dan a hard question about if he hurt your daughter? 299 00:12:05,658 --> 00:12:07,093 No. 300 00:12:07,127 --> 00:12:08,428 Okay. 301 00:12:11,364 --> 00:12:12,732 [sniffles] 302 00:12:15,368 --> 00:12:17,237 But, uh... 303 00:12:21,875 --> 00:12:24,911 It's hard to think back... 304 00:12:24,944 --> 00:12:28,915 and it brings up a lot of questions. 305 00:12:28,948 --> 00:12:32,352 I know they're going to be working on it diligently, 306 00:12:32,385 --> 00:12:37,190 and they have been, to try to give us closure. 307 00:12:37,223 --> 00:12:40,927 And that's what we want the most is closure, 308 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,697 so that we can put our minds to rest, 309 00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:46,199 our hearts to rest. 310 00:12:46,232 --> 00:12:48,468 It's been hard. 311 00:12:48,501 --> 00:12:50,370 I'm sorry for everything you've been through. 312 00:13:01,047 --> 00:13:02,182 *** 313 00:13:02,215 --> 00:13:03,416 [line ringing] 314 00:13:04,551 --> 00:13:05,585 Hello? 315 00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:06,753 We were just following up 316 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:08,922 on the Danyese Laclair murder. 317 00:13:08,955 --> 00:13:10,090 Do you remember that night? 318 00:13:11,858 --> 00:13:13,693 We've got a few theories about 319 00:13:13,727 --> 00:13:16,062 who might have murdered Danyese Laclair 320 00:13:16,062 --> 00:13:17,831 22 years ago. 321 00:13:17,864 --> 00:13:20,667 Her husband Dan, her coworker Ralph, 322 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:23,069 and an unknown sexual predator. 323 00:13:23,069 --> 00:13:26,072 And we need to track down anyone who might have information. 324 00:13:26,072 --> 00:13:28,441 You were at the post office, correct? 325 00:13:28,475 --> 00:13:29,609 Dropping some mail off? 326 00:13:50,597 --> 00:13:55,902 And you didn't see anybody at that time, correct? 327 00:13:55,935 --> 00:13:57,137 Okay. 328 00:14:01,374 --> 00:14:02,809 Okay. 329 00:14:02,842 --> 00:14:05,512 While we don't have any more eyewitnesses, 330 00:14:05,545 --> 00:14:08,415 we do have more people from Danyese's world 331 00:14:08,448 --> 00:14:11,317 that can maybe tell us more about her marriage, 332 00:14:11,351 --> 00:14:13,853 her affair, or anything else going on in her world 333 00:14:13,887 --> 00:14:15,588 that might have factored into her murder. 334 00:14:15,622 --> 00:14:16,890 Tell me about Danyese. 335 00:14:16,923 --> 00:14:19,559 -We went to college together. -Okay. 336 00:14:19,592 --> 00:14:22,328 -And we were just best friends. -Okay. 337 00:14:22,362 --> 00:14:24,564 She was in my wedding, everything, 338 00:14:24,597 --> 00:14:26,900 and she stayed at my mom and dad's house with me 339 00:14:26,933 --> 00:14:30,070 a couple of times when her and Dan were fighting. 340 00:14:30,070 --> 00:14:31,438 What did you think of Dan? 341 00:14:31,471 --> 00:14:32,739 I did not like him from the first time I met him. 342 00:14:32,772 --> 00:14:34,407 -Didn't like him. -He just came off as... 343 00:14:36,109 --> 00:14:37,777 Like, an arrogant son of a bitch. 344 00:14:37,811 --> 00:14:39,579 He got very mad very fast. 345 00:14:39,612 --> 00:14:42,382 -Like, just anger issues. -Okay. 346 00:14:42,415 --> 00:14:44,384 Do you remember what the fights were about? 347 00:14:44,417 --> 00:14:45,852 She was really pretty. 348 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:47,253 She made sure she looked good when she went out, 349 00:14:47,287 --> 00:14:49,222 -and he hated that. -Really? 350 00:14:49,255 --> 00:14:51,725 Yeah, he hated her looking good, like going to college. 351 00:14:51,758 --> 00:14:53,126 -"Why do you gotta-- -Oh. 352 00:14:53,159 --> 00:14:55,195 "Why do you gotta do your face to go to college?" 353 00:14:56,429 --> 00:14:57,864 How would you describe her? 354 00:14:57,897 --> 00:15:00,400 Little bit mousy, low key. 355 00:15:00,433 --> 00:15:02,435 Like, she didn't wear a lot of makeup. 356 00:15:02,469 --> 00:15:05,138 Plain, naturally beautiful. That was her. 357 00:15:05,171 --> 00:15:06,906 So when her and Dan started hanging out, 358 00:15:06,940 --> 00:15:08,708 how would you describe that? 359 00:15:08,742 --> 00:15:11,578 Tumultuous. Like, he was the controller... 360 00:15:11,611 --> 00:15:13,747 -Okay. -and she was submissive. 361 00:15:13,780 --> 00:15:15,548 Was there anything that stood out to you 362 00:15:15,582 --> 00:15:16,816 leading up to her death? 363 00:15:16,850 --> 00:15:18,651 She did confide in me that 364 00:15:18,685 --> 00:15:21,721 she was seeing somebody from the hospital, 365 00:15:21,755 --> 00:15:23,790 and I was like, "Wow, you just dropped a bomb on me. 366 00:15:23,823 --> 00:15:25,091 Like, you're cheating on your husband." 367 00:15:25,125 --> 00:15:26,793 Never gave you an impression she'd be a girl 368 00:15:26,826 --> 00:15:28,061 -like that at all? -No, absolutely not. 369 00:15:28,094 --> 00:15:30,130 How long was that prior to her death? 370 00:15:30,163 --> 00:15:31,498 It was literally days, 371 00:15:31,531 --> 00:15:33,433 maybe the weekend before, two weekends before? 372 00:15:33,466 --> 00:15:36,102 I worked in radiology as well. 373 00:15:36,136 --> 00:15:37,837 How was she at work? 374 00:15:37,871 --> 00:15:39,839 She was very plain, quiet, kept to herself, 375 00:15:39,873 --> 00:15:43,677 and then very modest, conservative with her clothes. 376 00:15:43,710 --> 00:15:46,479 And then some point in time, she started dressing 377 00:15:46,513 --> 00:15:49,349 a little bit more sexier, putting on makeup. 378 00:15:49,382 --> 00:15:51,584 Some of the guys in the office took notice of her. 379 00:15:51,618 --> 00:15:53,620 -Of course. -Okay. Sure. 380 00:15:53,653 --> 00:15:57,157 And, I mean, at the time, we had Ralph Vanucci, 381 00:15:57,190 --> 00:15:59,626 -kind of took interest and... -Okay. 382 00:15:59,659 --> 00:16:02,195 And [bleep] was always kind of a little bit friendly with her. 383 00:16:02,228 --> 00:16:04,764 The man Danyese Laclair was having an affair with 384 00:16:04,798 --> 00:16:06,332 was cleared as a suspect, 385 00:16:06,366 --> 00:16:08,702 but we're not sure if Dan, her husband, 386 00:16:08,735 --> 00:16:11,338 knew about the affair or how he would have reacted 387 00:16:11,371 --> 00:16:13,707 if he had found out about it prior to her death. 388 00:16:13,740 --> 00:16:17,344 The night in particular that she went missing, 389 00:16:17,377 --> 00:16:19,312 we thought she was upset that night. 390 00:16:19,346 --> 00:16:21,214 Her husband had been calling up there, 391 00:16:21,247 --> 00:16:24,551 and he was calling for wanting her to drop off some mail, 392 00:16:24,584 --> 00:16:26,319 and I thought that was kind of strange. 393 00:16:26,353 --> 00:16:28,054 We had a drop box downstairs. 394 00:16:28,088 --> 00:16:30,390 She said, "No, he wants me to drop it off." 395 00:16:30,423 --> 00:16:31,958 I always go back to her husband 396 00:16:32,058 --> 00:16:34,060 because of how the night played out. 397 00:16:34,060 --> 00:16:36,496 Dan would have a pretty good idea when Danyese 398 00:16:36,529 --> 00:16:37,697 was going to be at that post office. 399 00:16:37,731 --> 00:16:39,666 I've gone through an old case, 400 00:16:39,699 --> 00:16:41,568 and it's a reference Danyese Laclair 401 00:16:41,601 --> 00:16:44,838 and Ralph worked with her at McLaren. 402 00:16:44,871 --> 00:16:46,906 Can you tell me what you know about that? 403 00:16:46,940 --> 00:16:49,576 Then again, we know that her coworker, Ralph Vanucci, 404 00:16:49,609 --> 00:16:51,678 had made a pass at her just days before 405 00:16:51,711 --> 00:16:52,746 and could have easily followed her 406 00:16:52,779 --> 00:16:54,114 to the post office that evening. 407 00:16:59,586 --> 00:17:03,189 And he had your daughter at--at his home, right? 408 00:17:05,925 --> 00:17:07,594 Okay. Is there anything about him 409 00:17:07,627 --> 00:17:10,030 that would give you any reason to think 410 00:17:10,030 --> 00:17:12,132 that he could be responsible for something like this? 411 00:17:17,737 --> 00:17:18,838 Okay. 412 00:17:18,872 --> 00:17:20,607 Like Dan, Ralph has always claimed 413 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,709 he was at home that evening with his child 414 00:17:22,742 --> 00:17:24,277 and could not have killed Danyese. 415 00:17:24,310 --> 00:17:26,713 And it's baffling to us that both of our known suspects 416 00:17:26,746 --> 00:17:28,948 with potential motives have an alibi 417 00:17:29,049 --> 00:17:30,917 for the evening that Danyese was killed. 418 00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:32,752 Are these alibis as airtight as they seem? 419 00:17:33,887 --> 00:17:36,556 [line ringing] 420 00:17:36,589 --> 00:17:38,758 Hi, this is Kevin Kissel with the Burton Police Department. 421 00:17:38,792 --> 00:17:42,595 I am still looking at the Danyese Laclair case. 422 00:17:42,629 --> 00:17:43,830 Do you recall that name? 423 00:17:55,475 --> 00:17:56,710 Okay. 424 00:17:56,743 --> 00:17:58,511 And, uh... 425 00:18:24,904 --> 00:18:27,807 *** 426 00:18:27,841 --> 00:18:30,710 So Dr. Pinneri is here this morning to talk over 427 00:18:30,744 --> 00:18:34,814 the autopsy and maybe even our sexual assault kit questions. 428 00:18:34,848 --> 00:18:37,550 Dr. Kathryn Pinneri is our forensic pathologist, 429 00:18:37,584 --> 00:18:38,752 and she's here today to talk to us 430 00:18:38,785 --> 00:18:41,721 about the medical examiner's findings 431 00:18:41,755 --> 00:18:44,391 and if they can get us closer to understanding our killer. 432 00:18:44,424 --> 00:18:46,393 The body was found 433 00:18:46,426 --> 00:18:48,395 lying on her left side with the arms bent, 434 00:18:48,428 --> 00:18:51,297 and her hands are clenched in fists near her head, 435 00:18:51,331 --> 00:18:53,333 and she has really long fingernails, 436 00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:55,068 and they're all intact. 437 00:18:55,068 --> 00:18:57,070 You know, if you're fighting somebody back with nails 438 00:18:57,070 --> 00:18:58,672 that long, a lot of times they'll get broken. 439 00:18:58,705 --> 00:19:02,008 So that suggests that there wasn't any sort of 440 00:19:02,042 --> 00:19:05,812 hand interaction with the suspect. 441 00:19:05,845 --> 00:19:07,113 Danyese may have believed 442 00:19:07,147 --> 00:19:08,648 that if she complied with the offender, 443 00:19:08,682 --> 00:19:10,183 she would survive in this attack. 444 00:19:10,216 --> 00:19:11,584 But it does make you wonder 445 00:19:11,618 --> 00:19:13,787 if she knew her attacker, like her husband Dan 446 00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:15,288 or her coworker Ralph, 447 00:19:15,321 --> 00:19:17,023 would she have tried to fight back? 448 00:19:17,023 --> 00:19:20,593 Well, it's very unusual that she's redressed 449 00:19:20,627 --> 00:19:23,029 and kind of right. 450 00:19:23,063 --> 00:19:25,365 In situations where I've seen individuals 451 00:19:25,398 --> 00:19:27,834 be redressed by a suspect, 452 00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:29,502 there's something a little off. 453 00:19:29,536 --> 00:19:32,672 The underwear's on backwards or it's half on, 454 00:19:32,706 --> 00:19:34,941 and with the condition of the clothes, 455 00:19:35,041 --> 00:19:36,676 they're not torn. 456 00:19:36,710 --> 00:19:38,044 I never even thought of that. 457 00:19:38,044 --> 00:19:39,646 How do you not rip them of-- rip them? 458 00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:41,514 It's really hard to dress a dead person. 459 00:19:41,548 --> 00:19:43,516 Or a struggling alive person who's scared to death, 460 00:19:43,550 --> 00:19:45,185 -redressing them, too. -Right. 461 00:19:45,218 --> 00:19:47,487 That really suggests she undressed herself 462 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,855 and looks like she redressed herself. 463 00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:50,323 That sexual assault kit mentions 464 00:19:50,357 --> 00:19:52,325 that there's blue fiber on her vagina. 465 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,561 What's the way that you think there could be blue... 466 00:19:54,594 --> 00:19:56,663 fiber transfer there? 467 00:19:56,696 --> 00:20:00,066 -Cotton from a man's underwear. -Right. 468 00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:02,168 Whether it was, you know, 469 00:20:02,202 --> 00:20:04,871 full sexual intercourse or forced. 470 00:20:04,904 --> 00:20:07,173 So you think they did sexually assault her? 471 00:20:07,207 --> 00:20:09,376 I think that there was sexual interaction 472 00:20:09,409 --> 00:20:12,679 because of the clothing being off and 473 00:20:12,712 --> 00:20:14,514 the blue fiber in the vagina. 474 00:20:14,547 --> 00:20:16,649 This is a hard one. 475 00:20:16,683 --> 00:20:19,219 -Yeah. -This is a confusing one. 476 00:20:19,252 --> 00:20:20,854 Maybe Danyese's attacker 477 00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:23,323 wasn't able to become sexually aroused, 478 00:20:23,356 --> 00:20:25,859 or they got spooked and changed their mind. 479 00:20:25,892 --> 00:20:28,194 But if Danyese was sexually assaulted, 480 00:20:28,228 --> 00:20:29,896 it seems odd that her husband 481 00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:33,199 would really do that in such a risky way. 482 00:20:33,233 --> 00:20:35,935 Not to mention that neither he or Ralph 483 00:20:35,969 --> 00:20:37,837 owned a 9mm handgun. 484 00:20:37,871 --> 00:20:40,874 *** 485 00:20:40,907 --> 00:20:43,843 This is just how it was, just like this back then? 486 00:20:43,877 --> 00:20:46,079 No, actually, it was a lot different 20 years ago. 487 00:20:46,112 --> 00:20:47,847 A lot of these trees were smaller. 488 00:20:47,881 --> 00:20:49,049 City Hall across the street 489 00:20:49,082 --> 00:20:50,784 was under construction at the time, 490 00:20:50,817 --> 00:20:53,787 and the post office essentially is exactly the same. 491 00:20:53,820 --> 00:20:56,456 This is a first, because our crime scene 492 00:20:56,489 --> 00:20:59,225 is only a few hundred feet from the police station. 493 00:20:59,259 --> 00:21:01,394 I'm wondering if Danyese's killer 494 00:21:01,428 --> 00:21:04,197 was unaware that it was so close, 495 00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:07,434 or were they just so bold that they didn't even care? 496 00:21:07,467 --> 00:21:09,235 Yeah, so most people would pull in 497 00:21:09,269 --> 00:21:10,970 right off Center Road, 498 00:21:11,071 --> 00:21:13,707 and that blue mailbox is where they would drop off. 499 00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:16,443 Danyese would have pulled in just like we walked just now. 500 00:21:16,476 --> 00:21:18,611 What's interesting about this spot, too, is 501 00:21:18,645 --> 00:21:20,947 if you're sitting right here in the dark, 502 00:21:20,980 --> 00:21:24,617 you have a line of sight to our employee parking lot. 503 00:21:24,651 --> 00:21:27,487 You've got the court, you've got City Hall. 504 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,888 Like, all these places 505 00:21:28,922 --> 00:21:30,957 were dark areas, too, that you could sit. 506 00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:33,159 Or they could have followed her from the hospital 507 00:21:33,193 --> 00:21:34,728 and waited for her to drop her mail off 508 00:21:34,761 --> 00:21:36,262 and then came in behind her. 509 00:21:36,296 --> 00:21:38,898 All right, so Danyese drops her mail off, and then? 510 00:21:38,932 --> 00:21:41,334 She would have drove out to the exit down here. 511 00:21:41,368 --> 00:21:43,003 And the way her car was positioned, 512 00:21:43,103 --> 00:21:44,938 I think someone pulled up and stopped her, 513 00:21:44,971 --> 00:21:46,740 or had pulled up behind her. 514 00:21:46,773 --> 00:21:49,509 The door was open, the window was partially down, 515 00:21:49,542 --> 00:21:51,177 and the blinker was on. 516 00:21:51,211 --> 00:21:52,746 So this car's positioned the way her car was? 517 00:21:52,779 --> 00:21:54,481 -Yeah. -From which direction 518 00:21:54,514 --> 00:21:56,016 do y'all think the guy came up? 519 00:21:56,116 --> 00:21:58,118 I think somebody walks up. The car is right back here. 520 00:21:58,151 --> 00:21:59,786 He just walks to the car and gets in. 521 00:21:59,819 --> 00:22:01,354 Why wouldn't he come from over here? 522 00:22:01,388 --> 00:22:03,623 No, that would have scared her. She'd have taken off. 523 00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:05,625 -She can't take off. -She can take off. 524 00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:08,828 If the car comes up and pulls up right here, 525 00:22:08,862 --> 00:22:10,530 and the guy gets out with a gun 526 00:22:10,563 --> 00:22:13,433 coming up to her, she's not going to even back up. 527 00:22:13,466 --> 00:22:16,503 She ought to reverse, but maybe she panicked. 528 00:22:16,536 --> 00:22:18,071 I just think if he pulls up behind her, 529 00:22:18,071 --> 00:22:19,673 why didn't she just take off? 530 00:22:19,706 --> 00:22:21,508 Because it's an authority figure. 531 00:22:21,541 --> 00:22:24,711 But only your cop theory works from behind, right? 532 00:22:24,744 --> 00:22:26,980 I'm not saying your cop theory doesn't work, 533 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,282 but if it's some other creepy guy, 534 00:22:29,315 --> 00:22:30,784 you wouldn't come up from behind. 535 00:22:30,817 --> 00:22:33,286 Okay, so how fast is this going to happen? 536 00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:35,288 I'm up to your car in seconds 537 00:22:35,321 --> 00:22:36,389 and I can say, "Get out of the car 538 00:22:36,423 --> 00:22:37,490 and come back here with me now." 539 00:22:37,524 --> 00:22:40,160 Grab your purse from you so maybe if you're carrying 540 00:22:40,193 --> 00:22:41,861 -a pepper spray or a weapon. -Right. 541 00:22:41,895 --> 00:22:44,130 -That's less than 15 seconds. -Yeah. 542 00:22:44,164 --> 00:22:45,098 -You're in and you're out. -You're in and you're out. 543 00:22:45,098 --> 00:22:47,567 Which way is the doctor's office from here? 544 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,403 It's, um, north, about a third of a mile up the road. 545 00:22:50,437 --> 00:22:52,839 The field where Danyese's body was found 546 00:22:52,872 --> 00:22:54,674 was roughly a half a mile away 547 00:22:54,708 --> 00:22:56,543 and right off the main road. 548 00:22:56,576 --> 00:22:58,912 It only takes a minute to make that drive, 549 00:22:58,945 --> 00:23:01,348 but I bet you to Danyese, that felt like a lifetime. 550 00:23:01,381 --> 00:23:03,249 So this is our doctor's office? 551 00:23:03,283 --> 00:23:05,318 -Correct. -And back then, 552 00:23:05,352 --> 00:23:07,854 you could pull in and not be seen. 553 00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:11,358 You would be hidden from anybody passing by on Center Road. 554 00:23:11,391 --> 00:23:14,060 So are y'all thinking the sexual assault happened in a car, 555 00:23:14,094 --> 00:23:16,262 or out here in the yard somewhere 556 00:23:16,296 --> 00:23:19,065 With the grass on her, it makes me think they were 557 00:23:19,065 --> 00:23:21,067 in the grassy area here. 558 00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:22,602 So the car pulls up, then. 559 00:23:22,635 --> 00:23:24,537 He or they are going to have to get her out at gunpoint. 560 00:23:24,571 --> 00:23:27,173 -And she's got her clothes off? -Correct. 561 00:23:27,207 --> 00:23:29,409 The clothes could still be in the car for all we know. 562 00:23:29,442 --> 00:23:31,077 I think whatever took place was generally 563 00:23:31,111 --> 00:23:32,712 in this area with her. 564 00:23:32,746 --> 00:23:35,081 So you think the sexual assault starts here, up here? 565 00:23:35,081 --> 00:23:36,383 -I believe so. -I think so. 566 00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:38,351 And then she gets her trench coat back 567 00:23:38,385 --> 00:23:39,953 and it's tied back on her, 568 00:23:39,986 --> 00:23:41,688 along with her panties. 569 00:23:41,721 --> 00:23:43,923 And then she's going to be headed that way? 570 00:23:43,957 --> 00:23:45,258 -Yep. -Mm-hmm. 571 00:23:45,291 --> 00:23:46,626 But I don't think she was awake 572 00:23:46,659 --> 00:23:48,128 when she made it back here. 573 00:23:48,161 --> 00:23:49,596 What, you think she's out now and she's being carried? 574 00:23:49,629 --> 00:23:52,232 I think she was rendered unconscious back there 575 00:23:52,265 --> 00:23:53,933 and I think she was brought out here 576 00:23:53,967 --> 00:23:56,269 and you see tall grass, trees, and brush, 577 00:23:56,302 --> 00:23:59,439 and I'm tired, that might be where I place her. 578 00:23:59,472 --> 00:24:02,409 At the time, in 2000, this wasn't here 579 00:24:02,442 --> 00:24:04,444 and none of that apartment building was here, 580 00:24:04,477 --> 00:24:06,813 and it was all overgrown in that brush. 581 00:24:06,846 --> 00:24:09,883 She's found in this general area, 582 00:24:09,916 --> 00:24:12,952 her body on her left side pointing in that direction. 583 00:24:13,053 --> 00:24:14,387 She's plopped down on the ground. 584 00:24:14,421 --> 00:24:15,822 And then what happens? 585 00:24:15,855 --> 00:24:18,058 To me and the angles in the head wound, 586 00:24:18,091 --> 00:24:20,794 -you'd have to come around and-- -To the front of her. 587 00:24:20,827 --> 00:24:22,896 -To the front of her? -And that gives you the angle 588 00:24:22,929 --> 00:24:25,098 from front to back and you fire that shot right there. 589 00:24:27,467 --> 00:24:30,103 The gun was placed to her head because 590 00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:33,340 of the burn marks and the damage to her scalp, 591 00:24:33,373 --> 00:24:34,441 and that's where she stays. 592 00:24:34,474 --> 00:24:35,608 -Mm-hmm. -I agree with you there. 593 00:24:35,642 --> 00:24:37,077 You know, the bullet's in the ground 594 00:24:37,077 --> 00:24:38,278 underneath of her head. 595 00:24:38,311 --> 00:24:39,679 That casing is coming out to the back... 596 00:24:39,713 --> 00:24:42,082 -Plops out. -and it's in the brushy pile. 597 00:24:42,115 --> 00:24:44,084 I mean, you're done. The deed is done. 598 00:24:44,084 --> 00:24:46,086 And the car is still sitting over there, 599 00:24:46,086 --> 00:24:48,254 so he just takes the clothes and just goes and... 600 00:24:48,288 --> 00:24:49,923 Dumps them out of his car. 601 00:24:49,956 --> 00:24:52,592 And the way they're piled up, there was a collection. 602 00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:54,928 And where was the ring compared to the clothes? 603 00:24:54,961 --> 00:24:56,796 -Underneath all the clothes? -In the collection, yeah. 604 00:24:56,830 --> 00:24:58,631 That dang ring, man's ring. 605 00:24:58,665 --> 00:25:00,166 That's the mystery. 606 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,503 Most of Danyese's clothes were left in a pile 607 00:25:03,536 --> 00:25:06,439 next to a mysterious gold ring. 608 00:25:06,473 --> 00:25:10,043 The ring was tested and contained DNA 609 00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:12,445 belonging to an unknown contributor. 610 00:25:12,479 --> 00:25:15,849 But the DNA didn't match Dan or Ralph 611 00:25:15,882 --> 00:25:18,451 or the man Danyese was having the affair with. 612 00:25:18,485 --> 00:25:22,389 Unfortunately, the sample swab was used up during testing. 613 00:25:22,422 --> 00:25:25,058 The ring has since been contaminated 614 00:25:25,058 --> 00:25:27,727 and no further testing can be done on the ring. 615 00:25:27,761 --> 00:25:29,829 That's why our hopes are on getting 616 00:25:29,863 --> 00:25:33,199 a new DNA profile off of Danyese's clothes. 617 00:25:33,233 --> 00:25:35,902 How do you get the ring in the same spot 618 00:25:35,935 --> 00:25:37,871 as the clothes if it's a coincidence? 619 00:25:37,904 --> 00:25:39,205 Very unlikely. 620 00:25:39,239 --> 00:25:41,241 Now, whether or not it was on the bad guy 621 00:25:41,274 --> 00:25:43,877 and when he dumped it, it came off, 622 00:25:43,910 --> 00:25:47,080 or whether there was something more personal to it. 623 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,082 We're all speculating upon what happened here. 624 00:25:49,082 --> 00:25:52,819 I just get a strange feeling, I hate to say this, 625 00:25:52,852 --> 00:25:54,721 that she was basically just a target of opportunity 626 00:25:54,754 --> 00:25:56,089 when she was taken. 627 00:25:56,089 --> 00:25:57,857 So she's obeying what this guy says, 628 00:25:57,891 --> 00:25:59,926 hoping that she gets away or 629 00:26:00,026 --> 00:26:01,895 he's going to let her go, but it's not going to happen. 630 00:26:01,928 --> 00:26:03,930 You know, you get a true whodunnit 631 00:26:04,030 --> 00:26:05,665 with a true predator that's walking around. 632 00:26:05,699 --> 00:26:07,233 But who doesn't drop off letters at a mailbox? 633 00:26:07,267 --> 00:26:08,935 How is that high risk? Now she's dead. 634 00:26:09,035 --> 00:26:11,404 You got somebody out that just hunts people. 635 00:26:11,438 --> 00:26:13,506 Who does it in front of a police department? 636 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:15,875 Remember this, Kelly--a lion hunts in his own backyard. 637 00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:17,444 Yeah. 638 00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:27,454 *** 639 00:26:27,487 --> 00:26:28,955 You want to call Intermountain Lab 640 00:26:29,055 --> 00:26:30,090 and see what Danny has to say? 641 00:26:30,123 --> 00:26:32,058 Love to hear what he has to say. 642 00:26:32,092 --> 00:26:35,061 The investigators on Danyese Laclair's case 643 00:26:35,061 --> 00:26:37,263 originally tested her rape kit, 644 00:26:37,297 --> 00:26:40,700 that mysterious gold ring and her clothing, 645 00:26:40,734 --> 00:26:43,737 but didn't have any luck identifying her killer. 646 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:46,139 - Hello, this is Danny. -Hi, Danny. 647 00:26:46,172 --> 00:26:48,208 This is Kevin Kissel with the Burton Police Department. 648 00:26:48,241 --> 00:26:50,276 I'm dying to hear what kind of results 649 00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:52,479 you have from the stuff we sent out to you. 650 00:26:52,512 --> 00:26:55,582 But DNA technology has advanced in the last 20 years, 651 00:26:55,615 --> 00:26:57,717 so we've resent some of our evidence 652 00:26:57,751 --> 00:26:59,386 off to Intermountain Forensics, 653 00:26:59,419 --> 00:27:01,087 hoping they can retest everything 654 00:27:01,121 --> 00:27:03,056 with the latest DNA technology. 655 00:27:03,089 --> 00:27:05,191 They should have our preliminary results. 656 00:27:31,685 --> 00:27:34,521 In so many of our cases, there's not even enough 657 00:27:34,554 --> 00:27:38,091 to get a DNA profile, so this is great. 658 00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:41,461 If the DNA on her panties comes back to her husband, 659 00:27:41,494 --> 00:27:43,530 that might not be as compelling, 660 00:27:43,563 --> 00:27:45,365 it might be more easily explained. 661 00:27:45,398 --> 00:27:47,701 But if it comes back to anybody else, 662 00:27:47,734 --> 00:27:49,602 that could very well be our killer. 663 00:27:49,636 --> 00:27:51,938 How fast can we call you back for the next update? 664 00:27:55,408 --> 00:27:58,511 -Here we are. -Maybe we get lucky. 665 00:27:58,545 --> 00:28:00,647 -That would be awesome. -Man! 666 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,782 This would be a miracle. 667 00:28:04,584 --> 00:28:10,023 *** 668 00:28:10,023 --> 00:28:11,658 You're ready for me to dial him up? 669 00:28:11,691 --> 00:28:14,127 Let's go. Let's see what we got. 670 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,563 It's time we talked to our suspect, Ralph Vanucci. 671 00:28:16,596 --> 00:28:19,366 He was Danyese's coworker and made a pass at Danyese 672 00:28:19,399 --> 00:28:21,134 days before the murder, which she rejected. 673 00:28:21,167 --> 00:28:22,535 Hello? 674 00:28:22,569 --> 00:28:25,305 Hi, this is Detective Sergeant Dave Powell, 675 00:28:25,338 --> 00:28:28,041 and we're looking into the Danyese Laclair homicide, 676 00:28:28,041 --> 00:28:30,310 and we're just kind of going back just to see 677 00:28:30,343 --> 00:28:31,911 if there was anything that sticks out in your mind 678 00:28:31,945 --> 00:28:34,114 that we should probably look over again. 679 00:28:35,448 --> 00:28:37,183 Do you remember Danyese at all? 680 00:28:52,632 --> 00:28:54,067 Did she ever flirt with you? 681 00:28:58,138 --> 00:28:59,639 Did you ever try to kiss her? 682 00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:08,148 What happened? 683 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:27,467 Were you guys okay after that? 684 00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:31,604 I mean, everything seemed to go on as normal? 685 00:29:31,638 --> 00:29:33,039 Do you know how she was killed, sir? 686 00:29:50,924 --> 00:29:52,425 Let me just ask you this, Mr. Vanucci. 687 00:29:52,459 --> 00:29:54,060 Did you kill Danyese? 688 00:29:54,094 --> 00:29:57,097 *** 689 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,102 Ralph seems fairly forthcoming 690 00:30:02,135 --> 00:30:03,603 and owns up to the failed pass 691 00:30:03,636 --> 00:30:05,505 he made at Danyese days before her murder. 692 00:30:05,538 --> 00:30:08,141 Not to mention that he's always had an alibi in this case 693 00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:10,677 and that he got a key detail in this murder wrong. 694 00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:11,911 I don't have anything else. Mr. Vanucci. 695 00:30:11,945 --> 00:30:13,646 -I appreciate your time. -Be safe. 696 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,981 -You, too. -Take care. 697 00:30:15,015 --> 00:30:16,816 Ralph actually thought that Danyese was shot 698 00:30:16,850 --> 00:30:18,351 in her truck, but she was actually 699 00:30:18,385 --> 00:30:19,753 driving her husband's car that evening. 700 00:30:28,561 --> 00:30:30,630 You would think that if he did actually murder Danyese, 701 00:30:30,663 --> 00:30:32,298 he would remember what she was driving. 702 00:30:32,332 --> 00:30:34,534 My Spidey sense doesn't tingle with him at all. 703 00:30:34,567 --> 00:30:36,803 -No. -I think he's pretty honest. 704 00:30:36,836 --> 00:30:39,005 I just don't see, the way this happened, that he's involved. 705 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,615 *** 706 00:30:48,648 --> 00:30:50,450 Dan Laclair. Let's do this. 707 00:30:50,483 --> 00:30:52,318 Dan Laclair. 708 00:30:52,352 --> 00:30:55,288 It's been 22 years since Danyese Laclair 709 00:30:55,321 --> 00:30:58,658 was seemingly pulled out of her car at gunpoint, 710 00:30:58,692 --> 00:31:01,227 assaulted and shot to death in a field. 711 00:31:01,261 --> 00:31:02,495 -And since the beginning, - [line ringing] 712 00:31:02,529 --> 00:31:05,565 the prime suspect has been her husband, Dan. 713 00:31:05,598 --> 00:31:08,368 Dan was allegedly home with their children 714 00:31:08,401 --> 00:31:11,071 that night, but she was cheating on him, 715 00:31:11,104 --> 00:31:13,640 and he acted strangely after her death, 716 00:31:13,673 --> 00:31:15,842 including kicking her headstone. 717 00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:18,178 -Hello? -Hi, Dan. 718 00:31:18,211 --> 00:31:20,313 This is Kevin Kissel with the Burton Police Department. 719 00:31:20,347 --> 00:31:21,748 -Yeah. -I'm going over 720 00:31:21,781 --> 00:31:23,316 your wife's case. 721 00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:25,485 You think you'd be able to stop by my office here? 722 00:31:29,356 --> 00:31:30,657 -Perfect. Thank you, sir. -Yeah. 723 00:31:30,690 --> 00:31:31,925 All right. Bye bye. 724 00:31:31,958 --> 00:31:34,127 -All right. -Great. 725 00:31:35,128 --> 00:31:37,997 Dan agreed to come in. I'm pretty surprised 726 00:31:38,098 --> 00:31:40,333 because he's had fingers pointed at him for 22 years, 727 00:31:40,367 --> 00:31:41,601 and he's coming anyway. 728 00:31:41,634 --> 00:31:43,336 I'm just hoping that we can clear up 729 00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:46,006 once and for all whether he's involved. 730 00:31:46,106 --> 00:31:47,207 Well, come on back in here. 731 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,875 We can have a private spot to chat. 732 00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:50,377 I do appreciate you coming in. 733 00:31:50,410 --> 00:31:52,412 So the kids don't want me here now, 734 00:31:52,445 --> 00:31:54,581 but I'd like to help close this up, 735 00:31:54,614 --> 00:31:56,349 and I'm not worried about any... 736 00:31:56,383 --> 00:31:58,418 You know, like you said, there's been fingers pointed 737 00:31:58,451 --> 00:32:00,720 for a lot of ways, so people's opinions of me, 738 00:32:00,754 --> 00:32:02,922 I really don't give a-- much about. 739 00:32:02,956 --> 00:32:04,724 His kids didn't want him to come, 740 00:32:04,758 --> 00:32:06,292 but he came anyway. 741 00:32:06,326 --> 00:32:08,962 He's like, "I'm here. Give me your questions." 742 00:32:09,062 --> 00:32:12,298 I would love to hear your version from you, Dan, 743 00:32:12,332 --> 00:32:14,401 from your relationship with your wife 744 00:32:14,434 --> 00:32:16,970 till the events of that night. 745 00:32:17,070 --> 00:32:18,605 You know, she had just graduated and 746 00:32:18,638 --> 00:32:20,473 was increasing her wage quite a bit. 747 00:32:20,507 --> 00:32:22,776 -Okay. -And working at the hospital 748 00:32:22,809 --> 00:32:24,277 around a different class of people. 749 00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:26,946 -Right. -She was acting kind of weird 750 00:32:26,980 --> 00:32:29,883 in the way women will sometimes, 751 00:32:29,916 --> 00:32:32,218 kind of move on and move up the ladder in a little bit. 752 00:32:32,252 --> 00:32:33,987 I guess that's what she was doing. 753 00:32:34,087 --> 00:32:36,089 She was somebody else to me. 754 00:32:36,089 --> 00:32:39,092 She wasn't living two lives. To me she was something else. 755 00:32:39,125 --> 00:32:40,794 -And that's heartbreaking. -Yeah, I mean-- 756 00:32:40,827 --> 00:32:42,629 this is not-- I'm not the only one. 757 00:32:42,662 --> 00:32:44,297 That happens to a lot of guys. 758 00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:45,999 It won't be the first, won't be the last. 759 00:32:46,099 --> 00:32:48,268 But, you know, finding out after she's dead like that, 760 00:32:48,301 --> 00:32:50,470 -that is a little different. -It's a hidden truck, right? 761 00:32:50,503 --> 00:32:52,138 He's still pissed about the affair, I think. 762 00:32:52,172 --> 00:32:53,406 Oh, yeah. 763 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,608 Oh, yeah, he's-- he's very mad. 764 00:32:55,642 --> 00:32:57,410 That day was--it was Easter, 765 00:32:57,444 --> 00:32:59,579 so she went to work for an afternoon shift. 766 00:32:59,612 --> 00:33:01,648 Yeah. Think she was avoiding me, doing that stuff... 767 00:33:01,681 --> 00:33:03,149 -You think so? -we talked about earlier. 768 00:33:03,183 --> 00:33:04,818 Yeah. Think she was working second shift 769 00:33:04,851 --> 00:33:06,252 just to stay the hell away from me. 770 00:33:06,286 --> 00:33:07,487 Okay. So you're starting to, like, kind of 771 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,489 -put some pieces together. -25 years later. 772 00:33:09,522 --> 00:33:10,924 You ever start to put some [bleep] together? 773 00:33:12,459 --> 00:33:13,927 But at the time, no. 774 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,629 So, you know her car was at the post office, 775 00:33:16,663 --> 00:33:18,631 it was running, and the door was open. 776 00:33:18,665 --> 00:33:21,468 Knowing her as well as you do, what would you think happened? 777 00:33:21,501 --> 00:33:23,169 Is there anything about it 778 00:33:23,203 --> 00:33:25,338 got you thinking about her again that changed your-- 779 00:33:25,372 --> 00:33:27,640 Just being yanked out of a car for no reason. 780 00:33:27,674 --> 00:33:29,809 Just disappeared, you know, like you said. 781 00:33:29,843 --> 00:33:32,178 That's the part I don't understand. 782 00:33:32,212 --> 00:33:35,348 Why would that car be running? Why wouldn't she call? 783 00:33:35,382 --> 00:33:37,217 Why wouldn't she drive away if somebody-- 784 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:39,319 And so that makes me think it's somebody she knew. 785 00:33:39,352 --> 00:33:42,455 But I don't think I completely realized 786 00:33:42,489 --> 00:33:44,891 how very, very serious it was, 787 00:33:44,924 --> 00:33:46,860 standing out there in shock, and not really sure 788 00:33:46,893 --> 00:33:48,695 -what the hell was going on. -Sure. 789 00:33:48,728 --> 00:33:51,898 I was still failing to accept reality. 790 00:33:51,931 --> 00:33:54,234 And then the people that were looking at me 791 00:33:54,267 --> 00:33:56,236 like I was a guilty piece of [bleep], in hindsight, 792 00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:57,971 were the ones who knew Danyese was running around. 793 00:33:59,205 --> 00:34:00,440 Goddamn. 794 00:34:01,741 --> 00:34:04,644 And when did I accept what went on? 795 00:34:04,678 --> 00:34:06,613 Probably about the time I kicked her headstone. 796 00:34:07,614 --> 00:34:11,217 Can you tell me the story around that and why that was? 797 00:34:11,251 --> 00:34:15,689 I then go on to her cemetery plot quite often. 798 00:34:15,722 --> 00:34:18,324 I just had me a bad moment at that time 799 00:34:18,358 --> 00:34:19,659 and having to accept everything 800 00:34:19,693 --> 00:34:21,227 and that she wasn't what I thought she was 801 00:34:21,261 --> 00:34:22,929 and I kicked her headstone and broke a picture. 802 00:34:22,962 --> 00:34:24,864 Well, it got some attention, that's for sure. 803 00:34:24,898 --> 00:34:27,334 Kind of weird that that made the front page. 804 00:34:27,367 --> 00:34:31,438 Dan still seems genuinely upset and hurt by Danyese's affair. 805 00:34:31,471 --> 00:34:34,774 However, he is not ashamed or afraid to talk about it. 806 00:34:34,808 --> 00:34:36,443 I can't tell you how many cheated-on husbands 807 00:34:36,476 --> 00:34:38,345 I've talked to that try to play it off 808 00:34:38,378 --> 00:34:41,181 like they actually don't care, trying to downplay their motive. 809 00:34:41,214 --> 00:34:42,415 Dan is not doing that. 810 00:34:42,449 --> 00:34:43,750 I'm listening to you, and I understand. 811 00:34:43,783 --> 00:34:45,552 I can see, looking at your eyes, you're hurt. 812 00:34:45,585 --> 00:34:46,720 But, you know, I want you to know something. 813 00:34:46,753 --> 00:34:48,355 This wasn't some big love affair she had. 814 00:34:48,388 --> 00:34:51,458 This was unbelievably tragic thing that happened 815 00:34:51,491 --> 00:34:53,693 to you and your whole family. 816 00:34:53,727 --> 00:34:57,263 I appreciate the kind thoughts and everything, but... 817 00:34:57,297 --> 00:34:58,865 that's--that's-- that's where we need to be. 818 00:34:58,898 --> 00:35:00,767 You guys just take care of handling this case 819 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,203 and get her solved and a trial for her 820 00:35:03,236 --> 00:35:05,739 and that--that, you know, we'll all be good with that. 821 00:35:07,407 --> 00:35:09,042 After speaking to him, 822 00:35:09,042 --> 00:35:10,610 there's no way he's a suspect in this case. 823 00:35:10,643 --> 00:35:12,212 The timeline doesn't fit. 824 00:35:12,245 --> 00:35:14,581 He's cooperated with law enforcement, and granted, 825 00:35:14,614 --> 00:35:16,616 he's a little bit of a quirky personality, 826 00:35:16,649 --> 00:35:18,051 but when you understand what he was going through 827 00:35:18,051 --> 00:35:20,153 and just the frustration of losing your wife 828 00:35:20,186 --> 00:35:23,056 and then finding out she was having this affair 829 00:35:23,056 --> 00:35:25,792 and he's had to live with all of that. 830 00:35:25,825 --> 00:35:28,061 Dan, I got a lot of empathy for. 831 00:35:28,094 --> 00:35:31,297 It's been a rough bunch of years for that man... 832 00:35:31,331 --> 00:35:33,133 -Yep. -and that man's family. 833 00:35:33,166 --> 00:35:35,935 I think you could see it pretty obvious in his face. 834 00:35:35,969 --> 00:35:38,171 I'm confident after talking with him, 835 00:35:38,204 --> 00:35:40,640 you know, I don't believe he's responsible. 836 00:35:41,775 --> 00:35:43,610 At this point, it feels 837 00:35:43,643 --> 00:35:45,979 more and more like Danyese was murdered 838 00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:50,617 by an unknown suspect, which is horrible news unless 839 00:35:50,650 --> 00:35:54,521 our DNA results can come back with some great new information. 840 00:35:54,554 --> 00:35:59,092 *** 841 00:35:59,125 --> 00:36:01,294 [line ringing] 842 00:36:01,327 --> 00:36:02,662 Hey, Danny. It's Kevin Kissel. 843 00:36:02,696 --> 00:36:05,565 Do you have any new news for us this morning? 844 00:36:37,063 --> 00:36:39,065 So the way to work with it, then, Danny, 845 00:36:39,065 --> 00:36:42,402 is they would have to find samples 846 00:36:42,435 --> 00:36:44,971 to compare it to directly, one to one. 847 00:36:46,706 --> 00:36:49,075 This is good news because we now, 848 00:36:49,075 --> 00:36:53,079 for the very first time, have a Y-STR profile-- 849 00:36:53,113 --> 00:36:56,249 that means it belongs to a male--that we can work with. 850 00:36:56,282 --> 00:36:59,352 It's not viable for comparison to CODIS, 851 00:36:59,386 --> 00:37:01,554 or with genealogy databases. 852 00:37:01,588 --> 00:37:04,524 But if anybody comes forward with information 853 00:37:04,557 --> 00:37:07,360 in the future about a viable suspect, 854 00:37:07,394 --> 00:37:10,030 investigators can test with near certainty 855 00:37:10,063 --> 00:37:13,033 if that suspect is on Danyese's panties. 856 00:37:13,033 --> 00:37:15,068 You got your killer, but you can't figure out who it is. 857 00:37:15,101 --> 00:37:16,670 Yeah. 858 00:37:16,703 --> 00:37:18,738 I can put out a bulletin to our local agencies-- 859 00:37:18,772 --> 00:37:20,540 "Do you have any unsolved, open 860 00:37:20,573 --> 00:37:22,575 "sex assault cases where you have 861 00:37:22,609 --> 00:37:25,211 a Y-STR result that they got?" 862 00:37:33,787 --> 00:37:39,359 *** 863 00:37:39,392 --> 00:37:40,393 Good morning, boys. 864 00:37:40,427 --> 00:37:41,861 -Good morning. -Good morning. 865 00:37:41,895 --> 00:37:45,131 We've definitely made some progress in Danyese's case. 866 00:37:45,165 --> 00:37:46,766 And even though it might not be 867 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,135 as much progress as we would've liked, 868 00:37:49,169 --> 00:37:52,372 we can put some decade-old suspicions to rest. 869 00:37:52,405 --> 00:37:55,075 So Ralph Vanucci 870 00:37:55,108 --> 00:37:56,976 was initially involved in this because of 871 00:37:57,077 --> 00:38:00,780 the rumors at the hospital that Ralph tried to kiss her. 872 00:38:00,814 --> 00:38:02,315 And then when she rejected him, 873 00:38:02,349 --> 00:38:06,019 did it make him mad enough to cause a murder to happen? 874 00:38:06,019 --> 00:38:08,154 But y'all asked him about that specifically, right? 875 00:38:08,188 --> 00:38:10,023 He said, "I reached over and kissed her on the cheek 876 00:38:10,023 --> 00:38:12,792 "and she turned me down, and I apologized, 877 00:38:12,826 --> 00:38:14,661 -and I'm embarrassed by that." -He owned it. 878 00:38:14,694 --> 00:38:16,062 I don't think he lied about one thing. 879 00:38:16,096 --> 00:38:17,430 No. And he said that afterwards 880 00:38:17,464 --> 00:38:18,832 they were able to get along 881 00:38:18,865 --> 00:38:20,033 and work together just fine. 882 00:38:20,066 --> 00:38:23,436 Even back then, he was alibied out by his daughter. 883 00:38:23,470 --> 00:38:25,672 So does everybody agree we can clear out Ralph Vanucci? 884 00:38:25,705 --> 00:38:27,407 Yes. 885 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,243 So the real question, for the last 22 years, 886 00:38:30,276 --> 00:38:31,945 Danyese's husband, Dan Laclair. 887 00:38:32,045 --> 00:38:34,514 Dan's a logical answer, right? 888 00:38:34,547 --> 00:38:37,650 She's having a relationship outside of their marriage. 889 00:38:37,684 --> 00:38:39,819 So you're going to look at him. You have to. 890 00:38:39,853 --> 00:38:42,589 And so now, sitting here today, 22 years later... 891 00:38:42,622 --> 00:38:45,792 He showed up. He wasn't scared to be here. 892 00:38:45,825 --> 00:38:49,295 It's because Dan wants the same thing we all want--answers. 893 00:38:49,329 --> 00:38:50,296 Yeah, I don't think Dan had anything to do 894 00:38:50,330 --> 00:38:51,364 with the death of his wife. 895 00:38:51,398 --> 00:38:53,633 You know, Dan's the second victim of this homicide. 896 00:38:53,667 --> 00:38:56,136 He had to raise those two kids by himself. 897 00:38:56,169 --> 00:38:58,271 There's no way in my heart of hearts 898 00:38:58,304 --> 00:38:59,673 I believe that he killed his wife. 899 00:38:59,706 --> 00:39:02,275 I feel good taking him off the board, right? 900 00:39:02,308 --> 00:39:03,610 Yes, ma'am. 901 00:39:03,643 --> 00:39:06,212 Dan has always been cooperative. 902 00:39:06,246 --> 00:39:08,848 He also had an alibi, 903 00:39:08,882 --> 00:39:11,818 and we all believe that he was completely unaware 904 00:39:11,851 --> 00:39:14,521 of his wife's affair until after she was dead, 905 00:39:14,554 --> 00:39:16,723 which means he never had a motive. 906 00:39:16,756 --> 00:39:19,526 And while it feels really good to clear 907 00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:21,695 Dan's name once and for all, 908 00:39:21,728 --> 00:39:24,064 it's also very frustrating to admit 909 00:39:24,097 --> 00:39:27,133 that we still have no idea who killed Danyese. 910 00:39:27,167 --> 00:39:30,537 So when you're looking for our unknown suspect, 911 00:39:30,570 --> 00:39:32,672 what are the clues that are going to help you 912 00:39:32,706 --> 00:39:34,074 try and narrow this down? 913 00:39:34,107 --> 00:39:36,843 You got a car parked almost to the exit, 914 00:39:36,876 --> 00:39:39,713 running, windows down, blinkers on. 915 00:39:39,746 --> 00:39:42,749 You see that at traffic stops. 916 00:39:42,782 --> 00:39:44,751 Is it somebody who approached her 917 00:39:44,784 --> 00:39:46,353 from a position of authority? 918 00:39:46,386 --> 00:39:48,521 A security guard? A cop? 919 00:39:48,555 --> 00:39:50,857 But I still think a guy coming up to you 920 00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:53,360 and startling you, just putting a gun in your face, 921 00:39:53,393 --> 00:39:55,528 even in civilian clothes, could also do it. 922 00:39:55,562 --> 00:39:56,896 I'm not completely throwing out 923 00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:57,764 that it's just a guy with a gun 924 00:39:57,797 --> 00:40:01,167 that's a crazy-ass, sorry sicko, too. 925 00:40:01,201 --> 00:40:02,736 -Yes, ma'am. -Yeah. 926 00:40:02,769 --> 00:40:04,904 So we didn't get there, and, um, 927 00:40:04,938 --> 00:40:06,506 you know how mad we are about it. 928 00:40:07,774 --> 00:40:11,077 But now, the real big new thing. 929 00:40:11,111 --> 00:40:15,615 You have a complete Y-STR profile 930 00:40:15,648 --> 00:40:19,085 that you can use forever 931 00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:23,056 to compare against the male suspect world and family 932 00:40:23,089 --> 00:40:25,258 of anybody you want to. 933 00:40:25,291 --> 00:40:27,427 Now you got something new to play with, 934 00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:30,597 to test against, because it came from the best place 935 00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:32,432 it could have come-- her panties. 936 00:40:32,465 --> 00:40:33,400 -Yes, ma'am. -I wish we could've gotten 937 00:40:33,433 --> 00:40:35,301 all the way to the end, but 938 00:40:35,335 --> 00:40:37,137 we couldn't leave it in better hands. 939 00:40:37,170 --> 00:40:40,306 Might take a while, but we're going to find it. 940 00:40:40,340 --> 00:40:46,279 *** 941 00:40:48,648 --> 00:40:50,283 Now you're fixin' to go talk to Dianne. 942 00:40:50,316 --> 00:40:53,086 Danyese's mom, about everything. 943 00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:55,255 What are you thinking about what you're going to say to her? 944 00:40:55,288 --> 00:40:56,823 I'm going to explain to her. 945 00:40:56,856 --> 00:40:59,559 I know the family pointed the finger at Dan quite a bit, 946 00:40:59,592 --> 00:41:01,161 and I don't believe 947 00:41:01,194 --> 00:41:03,096 he's responsible for her daughter's death. 948 00:41:03,129 --> 00:41:04,764 Maybe that'll give her some peace, right? 949 00:41:04,798 --> 00:41:06,332 I hope so. 950 00:41:06,366 --> 00:41:11,938 *** 951 00:41:11,971 --> 00:41:13,440 Good morning, Ms. Dianne. 952 00:41:13,473 --> 00:41:15,909 *** 953 00:41:15,942 --> 00:41:20,680 * Here's someone that's close by * 954 00:41:20,714 --> 00:41:23,183 Well, it's been a long week. 955 00:41:23,216 --> 00:41:24,784 We've dove into this case. 956 00:41:24,818 --> 00:41:26,853 We've used every resource that we can. 957 00:41:26,886 --> 00:41:30,690 Last night, I had the opportunity to talk to Dan. 958 00:41:30,724 --> 00:41:33,093 After talking with him, 959 00:41:33,126 --> 00:41:36,429 I'm confident that Dan didn't have anything to do 960 00:41:36,463 --> 00:41:38,698 with your daughter's death. 961 00:41:38,732 --> 00:41:42,168 That makes me feel a little easier. 962 00:41:42,202 --> 00:41:45,839 It's been hard with all the uncertainty. 963 00:41:45,872 --> 00:41:47,841 I know. I know. 964 00:41:47,874 --> 00:41:50,977 Maybe your family can get back together again 965 00:41:51,011 --> 00:41:52,512 and everybody can get along a little better. 966 00:41:52,545 --> 00:41:55,548 -I hope we put them at ease. -Yes. Yes. 967 00:41:55,582 --> 00:41:59,686 I feel relief that people are being eliminated. 968 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,624 I feel like some of the weight has been lifted 969 00:42:04,657 --> 00:42:08,061 and we can come together on this 970 00:42:08,061 --> 00:42:13,066 and do the justice that she needs. 971 00:42:13,099 --> 00:42:14,501 That's what we want. 972 00:42:14,534 --> 00:42:16,469 I don't know who did it yet, 973 00:42:16,503 --> 00:42:20,740 but we were able to get a Y-STR DNA sample. 974 00:42:20,774 --> 00:42:24,811 Now, when I find a suspect, I can match that up 975 00:42:24,844 --> 00:42:28,882 and I can confirm if that person did or did not do it. 976 00:42:28,915 --> 00:42:31,351 I'm not going to stop until we find this guy. 977 00:42:31,384 --> 00:42:33,153 That's what I want. 978 00:42:33,186 --> 00:42:35,088 I went closure. 979 00:42:35,088 --> 00:42:37,724 -She's your baby, -Yes, she was. 980 00:42:37,757 --> 00:42:40,193 And you want justice. 981 00:42:40,226 --> 00:42:42,228 -You want to find who did it. -Justice, right. 982 00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:47,367 Well, you couldn't have a better man on your side than him. 983 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,835 -Okay. -It was wonderful meeting you. 984 00:42:49,903 --> 00:42:53,239 We've never had a case just like this before. 985 00:42:53,273 --> 00:42:56,109 The good news is this case can still be solved. 986 00:42:56,142 --> 00:42:58,678 -Thank you so much. -Yes, ma'am. 987 00:42:58,712 --> 00:43:03,183 If you have any information about who is responsible 988 00:43:03,216 --> 00:43:06,920 for the murder of Danyese Laclair on April 24, 989 00:43:06,953 --> 00:43:10,090 someone who lived in, worked in, 990 00:43:10,123 --> 00:43:13,193 or frequented the Burton, Michigan area, 991 00:43:13,226 --> 00:43:17,263 who may have been a person of authority, a security guard, 992 00:43:17,297 --> 00:43:19,232 or worked around law enforcement, 993 00:43:19,265 --> 00:43:22,202 wore or owned a gold ring 994 00:43:22,235 --> 00:43:24,571 like the one found near her body, 995 00:43:24,604 --> 00:43:28,475 and had access to a 9mm firearm, 996 00:43:28,508 --> 00:43:31,711 please contact the Burton Police Department. 997 00:43:31,745 --> 00:43:34,781 They likely have her killer's DNA. 998 00:43:34,814 --> 00:43:37,384 What they don't have is his name. 999 00:43:37,417 --> 00:43:43,356 ***