Previously on "cold justice"...
Y'all ready to get working?
Siegler: Steve and I arrived in anderson county, south carolina
To help the sheriff's department
Investigate the 2015 quadruple murders
Of married couple mike and cathy scott
And their elderly mothers, barbara scott and violet taylor.
All brutally stabbed, shot and robbed of what we believe
Were tens of thousands of dollars in cash.
There was no forced entry.
At the time we believed whoever killed them
Was let into the house.
All four victims were known for their very caring natures
And the love they all had for their grandchildren.
Their shocking murders on Halloween night
Left their community terrified and their families devastated.
[sobbing]
We learned about cathy's volatile relationship
With our prime suspects: Amy, her daughter,
And her new husband, ross, who also lived on the property.
They fought over money and how to raise amy's children.
And amy was keeping the kids from seeing cathy and mike.
It goes almost all the way across from one side
To the other.
It's a near decapitation.
Siegler: The knife wounds seem consistent
With ross's military training
And the combat knives he had been trained to use.
And we determined that it was cathy's missing gun
That was turned against her and then everybody else.
Shoots her twice, close range.
Siegler: But most damning, a photo of our victim mike's cash
Taken before the murders,
Which matched money found in amy and ross's trailer
After the murders.
We haven't ruled out any suspects or possibilities yet,
But we're clearly on the right track.
[woman vocalizing]
♪ who have I become? ♪
♪ swear that I'm the enemy ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh ♪
♪ look at what I've done, done ♪
♪ it's comin' for ya ♪
Spingola: You know, these cases never go away.
You get a whole family that's wiped out
And they were clearly law-abiding people,
You know, salt of the earth, and those are the ones
That bother people the most.
This one here, it just resonates with everybody.
It's been eight years and no one can believe it's been this long.
No charges have been filed and nothing has happened
And it's just crazy.
We still have unanswered questions.
Was this crime committed by one person or more?
Why that night?
And who do those bloody shoe prints at the scene belong to?
One thing that is clear: Mike and cathy's families
Have gone way too long without answers or justice.
Siegler: How y'all doing this morning?
- How are you doing, gentlemen? - Morning.
Siegler: We did 17 people yesterday.
We knocked some stuff out.
We've established amy and ross vilardi's financial motives
And we have proved that they had mike's cash in their trailer.
But more than that,
We've uncovered a very deteriorating relationship
Between amy and her mother, cathy,
Leading up to the murders.
Most everybody said that cathy has been trying
Amy's whole life to try and make her mind
And grow up and do the right thing and she's just beaten down
'cause amy has never behaved or minded her whole life.
From the minute she had those kids,
She never had a maternal instinct.
Cathy did everything. She changed the diapers.
She fed them. She burped them.
And amy would just sit there and do her thing on her phone
And live her life.
Those kids really were raised by mike and cathy.
Amy didn't do anything until the last couple of months
When she used them for ammunition.
I think amy took that the wrong way.
I think with cathy really trying to help get her
On the right track, not only for herself
But to raise her kids, amy took that as controlling.
But amy's all about the money. Always has been.
Why would amy do that to her mom?
Tear the kids away like that.
She wasn't getting the money she wanted.
She used those kids as a weapon on her mother.
It shows the character of mike and cathy
And then also the character of amy.
Everybody we talked to, just so you know,
So thankful you're working the case.
Can't believe nothing's happened.
Everybody's invested.
If we're gonna build a circumstantial evidence case
Against amy and ross,
We need to consider the fact that they could argue
Against our strongest piece of physical evidence--
That those matching bills in their trailer
Were given to them by mike.
So if they are responsible, we need more.
And we have to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.
We need to take a really hard look at their financial records,
Their business records and their cell records
And talk to any witnesses at all in this world
To see what we can do to strengthen this case.
Hello, miss hannah. How are you?
I'm good. How are you?
- I'm kelly. Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
Hill: Let's just get started with--
Tell us what you can remember.
I worked for amy and ross back in 2015.
Amy and ross claim that that $67,000 found
In their trailer came from their life savings,
Including the dog-grooming business styles for miles.
We wanna learn everything that we can
About the business records and the financial records
To see whether or not that can be verified.
Hannah schneider is not just a former employee of amy.
She's also her cousin.
How long had styles for miles been open?
They had their mobile before they had that shop.
So the mobile for maybe five years and that shop three years.
Hill: Was it successful?
We were constantly busy, but it was just constantly
Something financial.
Like, every morning when I got there,
I would check the voicemails, check the phone calls.
And there was bill collectors calling and leaving voicemails
Like you wouldn't believe.
And I was fired.
I can't remember exactly if it was August
Or September of that year.
They were having money issues and paying me.
So that's where the whole argument
And disagreement started, and then they were like,
We're just gonna let you go.
Even then my last paycheck was like $300 short.
Hill: You confronted them? Is that what I'm hearing?
- Yes. - About the money situation.
Yeah.
And instead of trying to fix it,
They just said "we don't need you anymore"?
When did your checks start coming up short?
- Two weeks after I started. - Hill: Okay.
It sounds like amy and ross's dog-grooming business
Was struggling.
That could account for why we heard amy and cathy
Were fighting about money.
What about the relationship between amy and her mom?
Turmoil.
- Always? - Always.
They were constantly arguing, fighting,
Screaming at each other
And then going into the husband she married.
I think that just added on to amy's anger.
- Did she have anger? - Oh yeah.
Hill: What about ross?
Did he ever talk about himself at all?
I know he was in the army.
Siegler: Did ross ever carry knives?
Hannah: I know amy does.
Amy's car used to be loaded down with stuff.
There would be like little pocket knives here and there.
But to me that wasn't an alarm
Because I'm a country girl. I was raised on a farm.
We all have pocket knives and stuff like that.
But the military bowie-looking knife.
How'd you know it was a military knife?
Because it was large like this, including the blade,
And the handle was probably like this.
My step-grandpa gave me a knife like that
And it had a compass on the end,
And he was in the vietnam war,
So it looked kind of similar to what I was given.
Hill: Okay.
We had wondered if the knife used in the murders
Was a combat knife, kind of like the one hannah is describing.
Hannah: Thank y'all very much.
Could that be our murder weapon?
Could amy have been the one who used it?
When something like this happens,
You don't ever forget about it.
It never goes away.
Mike's my only brother, my only sibling.
Older. So handsome.
And he loved being a grandfather.
Cathy loved her horses and the dogs
And they never took time for themselves.
They were always taking care of someone.
My mother was a very godly woman, very loving.
Wonderful cook.
The best mama.
She and mrs. Taylor, they kind of had each other.
She was such a sweet, quiet-natured woman.
And after the murders, I'm just not the same.
I've spent the last eight years waiting
For some sort of justice.
Now, rocksy's got some transcripts because she actually
- Was really interviewed. - Right.
She's definitely in the middle of that world
Because she used to work for 'em, remember?
Yep.
We've just heard that our suspects
Amy and ross's dog-grooming business was hurting,
Which may have fueled their potential financial motives
For killing amy's mom, cathy, stepfather mike,
And their elderly mothers barbara and violet.
It also supports our theory that that cash found
In amy and ross's trailer was stolen.
- Rocksy, how are you doing? - Good. How are you?
- Doing fine. - Come on in.
We tracked down another former employee
To provide further insight.
So you worked for ross and amy, right?
- Mm-hmm. - What was your job there?
When you worked for the shop,
You said they were just getting started,
So they weren't very successful yet.
Hill: Okay.
Hill: What kind of stuff would she say
About how she was treated?
Mm-hmm.
Siegler: We've heard a lot of talk about amy describing
Her mother's being narcissistic and overbearing.
But now we're also hearing that amy blamed her mom
For being the person who prematurely pulled the plug
On her dad's life support system.
If that is true, that adds a whole new element
To their dysfunctional dynamic.
Hill: After the bodies were discovered, did you talk
To amy at all that week?
Hill: Did amy help you clean that up?
What was her emotional state while doing that?
So she's laughing, cleaning up her family's blood?
Mm-hmm.
She's not crying over...
What was ross like after the murders?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
[hill chuckles]
So, talking about the money
You recovered with the search warrant,
$67,000 from amy and ross's trailer
And their answer to you back then was, "that's our money.
We don't believe in banks.
And it came from ross's military, disability,
And my great income from the grooming business.
That's where we got the $67,000."
And you have a report detailing years of income and outcome.
Let's go over the money part of all this.
Spingola: We've heard that amy and ross's business
Was not as successful as they said it was.
But the sheriff's department has acquired their financial records
Around the time of the murder to get the complete picture.
It's time to break it all down.
Then 2013--
That was a big settlement for ross
After he got out of the military.
So the chunk of change comes in with ross's
Military disability check.
Va disability settlement was $25,000.
In 2013, two years before the murders,
Amy and ross's proven income was $25,000
From a disability settlement,
$17,000 from their business, and roughly
A $5,000 income tax refund.
And at the same time or right after that, what's he buying?
Four months later, he's buying a $14,000 truck,
And then in September of that year, he buys a $5,800 mustang.
He bought two harley-davidsons for a total of $15,000.
So that's $35,000 he spent right there.
And his disability settlement was $25,000,
So we're already negative on what he's bought.
Hill: Right there off the bat.
So then all their real income is simply styles for miles.
In 2014, they only made about $2,700 off of styles for miles.
In 2015, how much are they making?
- Duncan: Around $27,000. - Hill: Total.
Total.
When you're putting together a murder case,
You need to also try to answer the question:
Why now?
These financial records, when you look at them critically,
They don't just tell you that amy and ross wanted money,
They needed money.
Now we have further evidence
That that money found in the trailer
Was not their life savings.
It was money stolen from the crime scene.
The business wasn't doing as well
As they acted like it was doing.
So you can say right away, that $67,000 does not add up
To what they claim, their explanation to you
Justifying the money was back in 2015.
And then you have the serial numbers.
If you didn't even have the serial numbers,
You could say the money doesn't add up.
- Duncan: Right. - They're broke.
Siegler: Come on in.
- How y'all doing today? - All: Good.
- Ready to get into it? - Yes.
Evidence is mounting that amy and ross vilardi
Were responsible for the 2015 murders of mike and cathy scott
And their mothers, barbara and violet.
We've only got two things left to clear up.
Were they both at the crime scene that night,
And what about those bloody shoe prints?
Our digital forensics expert has reviewed the cell phone records
Examined by the sheriff's department, and that could help.
All right. We're going to start
With cell tower location records.
Y'all got court orders for amy vilardi.
You also have the ross vilardi records.
There's your area here that you're focusing in on--
Pendleton around the crime scene.
There's all their calls here that you've got.
They're always hitting off at this tower,
Which is covering both trailers.
That's consistent with what their story is.
They were there at the home location.
Spingola: Amy and ross's trailer was located only a few yards
From the crime scene.
The good news is that the location data shows
That they were actually home the night of the murders.
The bad news is we already knew that.
I'm actually more interested in their text messages
To see what that reveals.
We're gonna dive right into the digital forensics.
So here is 9-4-2015.
Ross sends a message to amy.
[reading]
More financial trouble.
This was on 10-15-2015.
Amy hendricks.
Ross replies...
Here's one that I found particularly important
Because this is talking about what actually
They owe at this point.
So this is a message between amy and ross.
10-22-2015.
Ross sends a message:
Amy replied:
So having no money and you've seen all those other messages,
They're expecting to have $7,000 in the account on the first.
Where's that money coming from?
Siegler: Nine days before the murders, amy texted ross
That they would have $7,000 on November the 1st,
One day after the murders.
How did she know they were suddenly
Going to come into $7,000?
That's evidence of premeditation,
And come to think of it, so is arranging
To have your children out of town.
Devlin: On 10-31-2015--
The day of the murder, right?
8:33:08 p.M.
Ross sends a message to amy hendricks:
"so 10 minutes then, lol."
Amy hendricks replies at 8:36:18 p.M.
"everyone is up now talking, ha ha ha, take my car,
Grab a six-pack."
Spingola: At 8:36 p.M. On the night of the murders,
Amy texted ross and said,
"everyone is up now and talking."
We can't say for sure what that means,
But it could be that she's inside mike and cathy's trailer
Signaling that it's a good time for ross
To come over and join them.
Isn't that the best piece of evidence we have
Putting amy in the trailer? Right?
Spingola: This matches our reenactment of the crime scene
And that amy actually had a hand in what went down
Inside of that trailer.
I think amy probably lets him in.
He turns, locks the door, comes in.
If we're right, her attitude is disgusting.
Here's a message on 11-5-2015 from amy hendricks to ross.
She says...
There's no context around it.
It looks to me like she's planning on running.
Siegler: Amy sent ross to go buy beer
On the night of the murders.
After some really good detective work,
The sheriff's office has found the evidence
We've been waiting for.
And you actually have the video of it?
- Yes, we have the video of him - okay.
Walking out of the store
After purchasing the beer on Halloween night.
So this is the camera at the door.
- Siegler? That's him? - That's him walking out.
The interesting thing about this is--
And I'll play it one more time 'cause it is quick.
So you notice like right here,
Those red, asics shoes match the bloody footprint
We had in the crime scene.
This is so great.
The surveillance video clearly shows ross
Wearing the same asics tennis shoes.
It's exactly what we thought, and now we can prove it.
We are able to confirm those shoes are the asics shoes
- Confirmed by asics. - Nice.
The best part is, there were drops of blood visible
On top of those shoe prints.
So they weren't from somebody walking
Through the crime scene afterwards.
They were left during the attack,
And they belonged to the killer.
Jackpot.
Those shoes were never found. We looked everywhere we could.
That's good.
And the sweatshirt also never recovered.
- That's great. - Mm-hmm.
It's time to confront ross and amy.
Siegler: This is the one thing that scotty was excited about.
Neither one of them, ross or amy,
Has ever been confronted with the evidence
With the shoe print, with the money.
I agree she's as guilty as he is,
But if you come out of here with him going to jail
For the rest of his life and she takes some bum-rush,
I don't care what it is, receiving stolen--
I could live with that. Honest to god.
- No, no, no. - I'm telling you.
I'd rather he get away with it than her.
No.
- It's all her ideas, steve. - Ross did it.
- Amy was always going to be-- - ross is a big boy.
- Ross is a marine. - So what?
If he had never met amy vilardi, they would still be alive.
- It's all her. - Okay.
Siegler: Today's the big day.
It's time to talk to the prime suspects
In one of this county's biggest unsolved cases:
Amy and ross vilardi.
Good morning, boys.
We've uncovered mountains of circumstantial evidence
And answered almost all of our questions.
At this point, one big question still remains:
Will either of them confess or turn on the other one?
Well, you're the boss and I know you were excited
To talk to ross.
So talk us through what you're thinking.
What's your strategy on that? 'cause he knows you.
Right.
I'm going to try the old wisconsin knock.
We're going to introduce tyler to him as someone
Who didn't work here at the time these murders happened.
Hey. Are you ross?
I'm tyler duncan.
I'm with the anderson county sheriff's office.
- This is steve. - How you doing?
I got assigned the case about the homicide
That happened in pendleton in 2015.
He is the new lead and he is going back to the beginning
And investigating everything all over again.
Amy found the bodies.
She's the one who called 911.
- Is amy here? - She is.
So since she's the one that called 911--
I think you were there also. We'd like to talk to you.
We wanna talk to 'em separately if at all possible.
If you wanna come on out, we'll talk to you
And then we can talk to her.
Duncan: Did we wake you up?
- Yeah. - I'm sorry.
Hopefully they don't have any idea
That we've been working on it
And just pretend like he doesn't have a clue about the case.
That sounds like a good plan.
Can you describe, I guess,
Your relationship with mike and cathy?
I had a good relationship with cathy.
My relationship with mike was really great, actually.
It kind of turned sideways a little bit, July 4th.
Amy was pretty upset with him and told cathy
That you and mike need to respect what I say
'cause I'm their mother. You're not their parent.
That's when things started going sour between amy and cathy.
So I think y'all had got married that year.
- Is that right, 2015? - Correct.
- Yes, October 24th. - The 24th.
Duncan: That would have been about a week or so before.
Where were the kids at when y'all had gotten married?
Were they with your parents?
Yeah, so we had a small ceremony at my parent's place.
My mom and dad offered to watch the kids.
Amy and I were just going to have a couple days to ourselves.
It was why we'd come down the following weekend
To pick the kids back up from my parents
And take them back up with us.
- What date was that? - Halloween eve.
No, I'm sorry. Halloween night we came back down here.
Duncan: Y'all came down Saturday, Halloween night.
Stayed for the weekend.
And then after that, you got the kids and went back.
I believe it was Sunday evening or Monday that we went back.
I can't remember.
The last time that I saw mike and cathy was before
Amy and I left to come down that Halloween.
Ross's story doesn't match what he and amy
Initially told law enforcement.
That they were home on the night of the murders
Just a few yards from the crime scene.
And it doesn't match the cell phone location data either.
It's clear he doesn't remember
They actually already told the truth about that.
It seems like he's trying to concoct a new alibi.
We had just gotten back from my mom and dad's.
I was out running a couple of errands.
She had noticed that her mom's dogs had not been taken out yet.
She went to knock on the back door, but the back door
Kind of was already cracked open or something like that.
And that's when she apparently found the scene that she found.
She went bolting back out of the house.
I think she called 911 before she called me
If I remember correctly.
She called me and said, "I need you to be home immediately."
When I got home, she told me-- she said, "take the kids,
Go to a back bedroom and keep them away from the windows."
So you didn't go over to the other trailer.
No.
Over to mike and cathy's trailer.
Correct. I never went in that trailer that day.
So after you last seen them, you never went in their place again?
Correct. Correct. Yeah.
Spingola: Tyler's making ross confirm
That he never actually entered mike and cathy's trailer,
Setting the trap when we confront him
About those shoe prints.
There was a couple of things that kind of were red flags,
But I don't know if they have anything to do with this or not.
Mike bought and sold a lot of items.
And some of the people that he was buying from
Were pretty shady sometimes.
On a couple of occasions, he had these people come
To the property and amy had the conversation
With him that, "hey, look, you don't need
To be bringing these types of people to the house
Or to the property. We have children here."
There was a couple of fairly shady people that he worked with
That he didn't even really trust.
So that's another kind of red flag that I had
As I was trying to just replay events
Leading up to the homicide,
Should I have seen something.
Spingola: Ross is acting pretty calm and collected.
Like he's genuinely trying to help us
By giving us other suspects
That may have been involved in this crime.
It's probably just a coincidence that that's
A pretty common diversionary tactic.
We're just starting out with this.
If you were us, what would you do?
What do you think happened there, ross?
He's the first gentleman that's asked me that.
Tv shows that I watch always say follow the money.
And you find out where the real motives are.
Where's the money going?
Pam had a lot more to gain out of this
Than amy and I ever will.
She gained a lot of assets.
Amy and I, we have lost our asses.
They destroyed our business.
From January to when this happened,
I made just shy of $100,000
With our mobile grooming business.
As soon as this happened, with all the media coverage,
All of that went away because of this.
And you said you had a large amount of money
In your single-wide.
Is that where the money came from?
The money that was in our single-wide
In my safe, about $80,000,
That was literally the life savings between amy and myself.
Spingola: Nothing out of ross's mouth is consistent
With the evidence.
But we need to talk to amy, so we gotta play nice.
Can you just tell her to come out here,
And if we need to follow up with anything before we leave...
Ross: That's fine. I got you.
- Not a problem, gentlemen. - Thank you.
Ross: Yep. I'll let her know.
Just shovel the bull-- out of that front seat right now
So amy can get in.
Mm-hmm.
He's the victim, you know.
Oh, I got that very quickly.
- But follow the money. - Follow the money.
- You could tell that he's... - Yeah, I saw him.
And every time he's talking,
He can't look at you in the face.
Spingola: I know.
You got a tiger by the tail here, though, buddy.
Don't think you don't.
This is a career case, let me tell you.
Spingola: Here she comes. Get the snake-bite kit ready.
Spingola: Our suspect, amy vilardi,
Does not look happy to see us.
You can just hop in the passenger seat.
Do what now?
Okay. Well, we can stand outside.
She walks towards us.
She won't get inside of the truck.
She basically lights a cigarette
And kind of the body language is just not good.
So we're here to see if there's anything
That you can help us with the case.
The longer we keep her talking, maybe she'll slip up.
Maybe she'll give us something we didn't know.
Or maybe she'll implicate herself in this crime.
I understand. I understand.
We're trying to do right by your mother...
Spingola: Right.
...Your grandmother, and then obviously mr. Scott and his mom.
What do you remember?
What can you help us with? Where should we look?
[amy laughs]
[laughs]
Duncan: Yes, ma'am.
Ross was telling us a little bit about the relationship
Between, I guess, y'all and the family.
Something happened.
So at the time of the murders, you and your mom
Were back talking and everything was kind of getting patched up?
[man laughs]
Spingola: So can you tell us a little bit about that weekend?
Were you gone when you got home
And you found the bodies, or what happened?
What day did y'all leave to go down?
Duncan: Friday night?
Spingola: I'm not surprised at all that amy is downplaying
The fact that the relationship between her mother
And her was terrible,
That she openly told people she wanted her mother dead.
Shoot, I've seen 'em fight.
Cathy and amy would actually go to it, fight?
Yeah.
She has to distance herself from this crime scene here
And state that they weren't even home
On the night of the murders.
Spingola: What do you think happened?
Okay. Well, we'll just ask ross a couple more things
- And we'll be out of here. - All right.
Amy's contradicted everything we've heard and that's great.
But we don't wanna push it by confronting her
About that suspicious text to ross
On the night of the murders.
Duncan: She can't remember anything because she doesn't
Remember her lies.
You are a skeptical young man.
- Am I wrong? - You're right on.
Spingola: It's time to get ross back in the car and confront him
With the evidence in this case.
So we just wanna ask you a couple more things
And we're gonna get out of here, okay?
You know, anytime you have two people in a crime,
You have to consider, will one of 'em out the other one?
Is one of 'em gonna rat on the other ones here?
Who's got the most to lose?
Duncan: There was something that had come up.
Do you remember owning like a red pair of shoes?
- Red pair of shoes? - Asics speedstar shoes.
I don't recall.
These asics speedstar shoes.
Oh, yeah. I remember those shoes.
Duncan: What happened to the shoes?
That's a good question 'cause I have no idea.
This is from crime scene photos
And these are confirmed to be asics speedstar shoes...
Ross: Okay.
Duncan: Inside they have blood droplets on them.
And interestingly enough, you're at the quiktrip
Wearing those shoes the night of the murders.
Okay.
So if you never went in the house, I'm just interested
To know how they ended up in the house.
I have no idea how those shoes would have had
Any kind of blood on them.
Obviously, I was wearing them at a quiktrip on the 31st.
Well, and they never found the clothes either
That you were wearing.
Uh, that hoodie?
Mm-hmm.
Let me think here.
Duncan: If y'all left on Halloween afternoon,
But you're on video there, the timeline doesn't add up.
The fact that your shoes are inside of the house, in blood,
That's a big problem.
Again, I don't know where there shoes are at the moment
And I don't remember whatever happened
To those particular shoes.
If something were to have happened that I had done,
It would be stupid for me to wear them
Into the house and then wear them after that, right?
Well, that's what I'm saying. They were never found.
So it's almost like you got rid of 'em.
I highly doubt I got rid of 'em then, but I mean...
- Here's the bottom line, okay? - Mm-hmm.
So, we know what happened and we're about to prove it.
Okay.
So the opportunity for you is now.
If you want to look out for yourself,
It's really just to tell us what happened.
If this was something that amy put you up to doing,
Because obviously you have the skill set
To go in here and do this
And y'all did benefit from the murders, okay?
Because you got a lot of money.
We've been through your financials, okay?
We didn't get a lot of money from this.
Y'all were struggling all up until the murders.
The money found in your safe,
There's money photos from mike's computer
That matched the same serial numbers
As the money that was found in the safe.
So it's not savings.
That's money that was found inside of mike and cathy's house
That mike was saving
And y'all took it after you killed him.
Absolutely not.
And I'm telling you right now, we're gonna prove it.
If you think she's not gonna crack on you when we do,
Then you're mistaken.
We're not here because we think you did it
Or you might have did it.
We know you did it, okay?
- We're just here as a courtesy. - Hmm.
I'm just telling you, ross,
Financially at the time things were really bad.
We've got text messages between you and amy
Saying you don't have the money a few weeks before.
And you said it the best:
"follow the money." we did that.
It led right into your single-wide.
It's piling up, ross.
You don't wanna roll the dice on this, I'm telling you.
It's not gonna come up pretty.
Ross: Let's just play this out in a hypothetical, right?
Spingola: Right.
If, for instance, amy and I decided to,
Or if I decided to take a deal.
Spingola: Right.
Mine is gonna be "better" than amy's
Because I came to the trough first, right?
-Right. -So prison time, no matter what.
Amy, prison time, no matter what.
My three kids in here,
They grow up without a father and a mother.
Granted, my mother would be more than willing to take them.
I understand that.
We're not the ones who put you on this predicament.
Now you're gonna to have to deal with the consequences.
10, 20 years in prison.
That's best-case minimum scenario,
I would imagine, right?
It's better than the rest of your life or death, isn't it?
I mean, it might as well be one of those two.
By the time I get out, my kids aren't gonna know
Who the -- I am.
I mean, the other option is I probably need
To talk to a lawyer at this juncture here.
- Spingola: All right, ross. - Duncan: You're free to go.
Yep.
I think we did the best we could,
Playing off each of them as much as we could.
Amy was a lot more distant.
I think you saw that with her answers.
Ross, he stayed in there. He wanted to hear what we had.
What do you think is going on in that house tonight?
I mean, this will be an interesting
Couple of hours for him tonight,
Talking with amy and their pillow talk.
I'd love to hear that.
Nice job, buddy. Nice -- job.
Duncan: That was-- I ain't gonna lie.
That was a little nerve-racking.
Spingola: It was.
Still priceless, though, when he said,
"follow the money. That's what I would do."
I'm like, "it leads to you."
Siegler: We're dying to know what happened.
Duncan: I think it went pretty good.
Ross came out and we talked for a little over two hours.
She was a little different.
I don't think she really wanted to talk to us.
- Imagine that. - She was very standoffish.
I just got the vibe we weren't really going
To get a lot with her.
So we got just what we needed and let her go back in
And then ross came back out and got in the truck with us.
You know, one thing I did find interesting that ross said
Is he tells us now that they left Halloween night.
Because before he even said he went to sleep at 9:00.
Halloween night we came back down here.
Duncan: So Halloween night, y'all come to columbia.
Ross: Correct.
Duncan: You know, I asked him
If he remembers owning a pair of asics,
And then I showed him the picture.
And he said, "oh, yeah, I had those shoes.
Those were my shoes."
And I said, "well, those shoes are printed in blood
In the crime scene."
You're at the quiktrip
Wearing those shoes the night of the murders.
Okay.
What do you think he's doing right now?
I think they're panicking.
We didn't need amy and ross to dig a bigger hole
For themselves, but I'm sure glad they did.
I cannot remember a case where we've had
So much circumstantial evidence.
It's very clear that we can eliminate the possibility
Of an unknown suspect because every single thing
That we have uncovered points directly
At amy and ross vilardi.
Set the scenario for: In the whole world,
Who was mad at cathy and mike?
There was only one person upset and that was amy.
And we also heard from people that knew amy
All the way back when she was a little girl.
"I hate my mother.
I wish she was dead."
You also have videos of them arguing too.
Tells an 80-something year-old lady,
"I hope you die."
Beggars!
Ross: Yeah, that's right. I'm a beggar.
Come here and I'll show you some.
Come here and look.
Siegler: And then the timing. The kids happen to be gone
And lie about going to bed at 9:00
When they're really buying beer at 9:38.
What's your favorite part about the crime scene?
Hill: So this many victims, all with knife wounds,
You know, to me that screams someone who was trained
How to use a knife.
Marine training, for example,
They teach you go for soft tissue,
With the neck being their primary target with a knife.
Our suspect just happens to be a marine.
Spingola: And he claims he was never issued
A ka-bar combat knife, which many marines are.
Mine is gonna be the footprint, you know, from the shoe.
We have him on video at the quiktrip, you know,
What we believe before the murders,
Wearing clothes and this asics shoe,
Which we've confirmed the shoe print in blood
Inside the crime scene is from an asics shoe.
And what happened to ross's clothes
That he had on that night?
- Never found them. - We never found them.
And now they're telling you they went to blythewood
Halloween night.
But what do you have them texting each other about?
Amy texting ross that they're all up laughing
And devlin presented he could prove
That came from that property.
There's all their calls here that you've got.
They're always hitting off of this tower,
Which is covering both trailers.
And then the money.
Ross told us they were making, you know, almost $100,000
In 2015, which is clearly a lie. They were struggling.
Spingola: They were in such dire financial straits.
It was unbelievable.
So I think they realized their world was about to crash down.
- Yep. - They were desperate
And they knew that mike had money inside.
They had nowhere else to turn.
They were losing everything and this was the only way out.
And we presented him today with the fact that there's $100 bills
That are depicted on mike's facebook.
Siegler: And the serial numbers match the money on the bills
Recovered from amy and ross's trailer.
So tell me how you're gonna end your presentation.
I wanna tell 'em that we believe we have enough
To go see a judge today.
And I think we end it with ross's line, "follow the money."
Follow the money and you find out where the real motives are.
If they're on board, we're gonna leave their office
And drive straight to our magistrate's office
And get warrants.
Ooh. Can't wait for you to call us tomorrow.
[laughs]
I'm extremely pleased to announce
That two arrests have been made
In connections with the brutal murders
Of cathy scott, mike scott, barbara scott,
And violet taylor.
We have arrested rosmore, aka ross wayne vilardi,
And amy vilardi.
And they have been charged with murder
For the quadruple homicide.
This is a case that rocked our county extremely hard
And I can't wait to see justice served.
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[car door shuts]
- Morning, guys. - Morning, sheriff.
- Good to see you. - Good to see you.
- Morning, sheriff. - Yes, ma'am.
Good to see you.
Excited for this morning, right?
Very excited. This is definitely very special.
This family's been waiting for this for a long time.
- Let's go tell them. - Yes, ma'am.
Siegler: Good morning, everybody.
All: Good morning.
Mcbride: So, I know you all have been waiting a long time.
Eight long years for justice.
And we have them.
They're in custody.
We've made the arrests.
I know this is the day that you've been waiting for
Very patiently, and we appreciate you.
[sobbing]
Waiting so long, I know it's hard.
Wow.
You know, this is big news for us, too, so we're very excited.
We wanna get in there and roll up our sleeves
'cause we want to get these convictions soon.
Pam: I'm not sure what I'm feeling right now.
Thankful, excited.
I just have so many emotions.
It's that day that we've all hoped for,
That we've all prayed for,
That we've all believed one day was coming.
But it's unreal.
Thank you all so much.
I just can't express my gratitude to all of you.
Thank y'all for not giving up on our case.
I know it's been hard for even you guys.
We appreciate your diligence in that
Because there were some days
That we didn't think this would ever come.
I think it's important just to remember our faith.
And we have had faith in god.
And we've had faith in you and the sheriff's department,
And now we'll put our faith in the attorney general's office.
And this is good.
- This is very good. - It is.
Nice.
Well, we'll let y'all go start telling
The rest of your family, right?
- Yeah. - Thank you so much.
- I like this new sheriff. - Thank you.
I'm so happy to give you good news.
Yeah.
These guys are wonderful.
The case was beautifully put together.
Everybody in the community cooperated and was excited
To tell what they knew.
We got it, yeah.
- I know it. You are now. - Okay.
Siegler: Working with the sheriff's office
Was really special
Because they're so good at what they do.
Finally, they got where they needed to be.
And this family is finally gonna get the justice
They've been looking for for eight years.
I wish they could all be like this.