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meets Stephanie via TikTok.
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- She's just really cute,
caring, supportive.
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Said, "I love you."
- Wow.
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- Talked about marriage.
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- Really?
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- Oh, [bleep].
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I shared so many
[bleep] about me!
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Like, I opened up!
Like, what the [bleep]?
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Oh, my God!
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- Oh!
- Oh, oh, someone's coming.
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Someone's coming.
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[suspenseful music]
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♪ ♪
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- What is that?
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- I don't know.
- No, you know what's--
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what's in there.
- [laughing] No, I literally
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saw it sitting here.
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- When I see
a mysterious box...
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- I actually don't know.
- On the table,
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I know what the [bleep] is up.
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- You open it.
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[laughs]
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Don't shoot it at me.
I don't know what's in there.
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- I don't know what's in it.
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You know what's in it.
- Shoot it that way.
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[toy farting]
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Oh, my God.
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- This is what
they think of you guys.
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That is disgusting.
- Pretty good.
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I mean, could you imagine
if you were dating a guy
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that went through
a full proposal,
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and that's what was inside?
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[laughter]
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Anyway, let's see what we got.
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We got an email here.
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Subject, "I don't wanna think
the worst."
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"Hey!
How's it going, Nev and Kamie?
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My name is Jacob, and I'm 18."
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- Aw, fresh. A little baby.
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- "I was working
in Orlando, Florida,
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"until a few weeks ago,
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"when my mom broke her foot.
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"She needed some help
around the house,
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"so I've been staying with her
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"out in Colorado Springs,
Colorado,
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"for almost a month.
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"I'm not 100% sure,
but I might need your help.
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"About nine months ago,
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"I noticed this girl
named Stephanie
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coming into my lives
on TikTok."
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- ♪ I want you ♪
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- "She was hot!"
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- ♪ She wants, she wants ♪
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♪ She wants, she wants to ♪
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- "And I was newly single.
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"She also seems super smart
and supportive.
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"I was always excited
to talk to her
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and hear her voice."
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- ♪ She wants, she wants ♪
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♪ She wants to love me ♪
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- "She lives in New York City,
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"but I move around a lot,
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"so it wasn't a big deal.
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"Recently, though, I realized
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"I didn't know as much
about her as I thought.
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"When I asked her
if she had more social media,
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"she sent me a Facebook page
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"that had
a different last name
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"than the one
she had given me.
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"I asked her about it.
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"So far, she hasn't explained.
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"The Facebook account also
seems like a ghost account.
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"There's nothing on it
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but a picture of me."
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Weird.
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"Stephanie has a unique career,
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always underground."
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- She works in a bunker.
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- "Which makes
communicating a challenge.
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"I don't want to doubt her
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"or be too nosy.
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"She's been there for me,
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"and even though I'm only 18,
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I can see myself
settling down with her."
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- ♪ She wants, she wants ♪
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♪ She wants to love me ♪
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- "I'd appreciate
any help you can offer.
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Please and thank you, Jacob G."
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- ♪ Love me ♪
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- Jacob G.
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I'm trying to think of what job
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works underground
in New York City.
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- Oh, she could work
on the subways.
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She could be
a booth attendant--
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- Yeah, but even the subway--
- Or, like, a MTA worker.
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- Right.
- But most places have Wi-Fi.
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What if she works at,
like, a morgue?
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- Underground morgue
in New York City?
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- I don't know,
I just imagined morgues being
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sort of basement operations.
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- I don't know.
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- All right,
let's give this guy a call.
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[phone line trilling]
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- Hello, is this Jacob?
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- Hey, it's Nev and Kamie.
- Yo.
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- We just saw your email.
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Have a lot of questions.
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If we come to Colorado,
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are we gonna get
to meet your mom,
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and should I bring her,
like a--
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- Harvest basket?
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- For sure.
All right, so sit tight.
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We'll find a place to meet up
and see what we can do
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to help you
out of this strange situation.
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- All right, man, talk soon.
- See you, Jacob.
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- Whoa, baby.
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- ♪ Fly ♪
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♪ Fly away ♪
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- This is nice.
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- Colorado Springs.
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- Such a cute town,
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beautiful--look at this.
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I mean, it's gorgeous.
- Fresh air.
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Let's text Jacob.
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- ♪ Feelin' ♪
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[phone dings]
- Jacob says--
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Oh!
You got it--right there.
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- Where?
- Right there.
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- Oh!
Oh.
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- Hey!
- Aloha!
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How's it going?
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- Well,
wait a second, we didn't--
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you didn't say anything
about moving in.
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- Yeah!
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- Hey.
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- What's up, dude?
- How's it going?
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- Good to meet you.
- It's good to meet you.
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- I'm Kamie.
- Oh, nice.
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- So are we helping you
meet a girl?
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- No, so--
- Or did you just get
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kicked out of your house,
and you need
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a place to stay?
- So basically,
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I'm gonna move in
with you guys,
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and then, uh,
Stephanie's gonna come with us.
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You know, we're just gonna
be a big happy family.
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- All right, well, let's go.
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We got a place we can sit down.
- He's 18.
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This is legal.
We could--we could take him.
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- Yeah, we could take him
across state lines.
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- Here we go.
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- Did you grow up
in this neighborhood?
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- Naw, I didn't.
- Where'd you grow up?
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- Well, I was born in Brooklyn,
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and I kind of just
moved around a lot.
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I was in, like, foster homes,
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and so they were
just transferring me
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state to state.
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- How'd you end up
in foster care?
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- When my mom got
out of the military,
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she--I guess she had, like,
PTSD and things like that.
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So she really didn't know
how to handle her emotions,
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and she was always, like,
hiding in the room and stuff,
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and after that, just--
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they sent me into the system,
basically,
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and from there, yeah,
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I was just getting transferred
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place to place,
things like that.
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- Wow.
- At first, it was tough,
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but I feel like, from all
the pain and everything,
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I feel like it just made me,
like, a strong,
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independent person.
- Yeah.
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- And so now
you're living where?
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- Uh, kind of everywhere.
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I mean, my mom let me stay
for, like, the month.
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- So you don't really have,
like, a home base right now?
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- No.
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- That's a lot of life
to go through by 18.
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- Now I'm here with you guys.
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- Yeah, welcome.
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- So since I know things
at home are a little tense,
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we got you a little Airbnb.
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- Dang!
- Yeah, that looks nice.
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[door clicks open]
All right.
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Let's check it out.
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- Ooh.
- Oh, my God!
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- This is a nice place.
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- I'll get used to this.
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- Wow.
You got a little fireplace.
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- It's lit.
- I should bring
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Stephanie here.
- You know what?
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We gotta find her first.
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- Oh, yeah, we got a room
for me and Stephanie's kids.
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- Oh, my God.
- Slow down--not too much
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on the kids.
- The bunk beds--
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aw, you're already lookin'--
- Yeah.
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- All right, well, let's--
let's sit down and talk.
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[both sighing]
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So before we talk
about Stephanie,
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you mentioned in your email
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that you were "recently single"
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when you met Stephanie.
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- Yeah, so I was
in Texas at the time.
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I was with this one girl.
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She's very beautiful,
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but things just went
a little sideways.
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You know, I found out she was,
like, seeing other guys
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and things like that,
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and I get
very bad trust issues.
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Like, and you can't really
have a good relationship
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if you're not trusting,
you know what I'm saying?
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Like, and I feel like my mom,
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like, gave me away to, like,
the foster homes--
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it's like--I feel like
that my mom gave me away.
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So I kind of lost trust
in women.
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- Wow, yeah, that is--
that's rough.
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So you kind of had
your heart broken.
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- Mm-hmm.
- You're on Tiktok.
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How do you meet Stephanie?
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- So basically,
I was just going live,
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you know, posting.
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Doing my little thirst traps
or whatever,
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and some girls
would comment, like,
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"You're so cute," or something.
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I started noticing hers.
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[upbeat music]
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At first,
I wasn't really peepin' it.
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Like, I wasn't paying
too much thought,
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but I was seeing
her name on my live,
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and then I clicked
her profile pic.
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I'm like,
"Damn, like, she kind of cute."
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- So you saw her profile.
Did she have videos?
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- No, but that's regular,
'cause a lot of people
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have TikTok accounts
where they just watch
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instead of create.
- Okay.
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- And then, um,
she added me on Snapchat.
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I added her back,
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and we kind of started talking
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from there.
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- Okay, so you guys
start talking on Snapchat.
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- Yeah.
- Did she send you pictures?
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- Yeah, yeah,
I have a few photos.
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- And were they taken in Snap,
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or were they camera roll?
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- I d--definitely camera roll.
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- So that's weird.
- Yea, definitely,
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like, things have been
a little weird,
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and I've been finding out
little, like, little random
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things that make no sense.
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She has no pages,
no social media.
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It's like she's a ghost,
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and we--I found her Facebook,
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and the only thing that's on it
is a picture of me.
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- Which is--what is that?
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- It's weird, right?
- Super weird.
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- Weird--and then I asked her
what her last name was,
256
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and she said that
her last name was Love, right?
257
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But then I go on the Facebook,
258
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and it says
her last name is Delgado.
259
00:08:02,649 --> 00:08:04,149
So who the [bleep] is Delgado?
260
00:08:04,218 --> 00:08:05,584
And when she told me her job--
261
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I think the whole situation's
a little bit strange.
262
00:08:07,721 --> 00:08:08,653
- What's her job?
263
00:08:08,722 --> 00:08:09,754
- She's a mortician.
264
00:08:11,458 --> 00:08:12,691
- I said it!
265
00:08:12,759 --> 00:08:14,159
- [laughing] You did say that.
266
00:08:14,228 --> 00:08:15,694
- I said it!
267
00:08:17,498 --> 00:08:18,830
- She works
at a [bleep] morgue.
268
00:08:18,899 --> 00:08:20,031
- Wow.
- To me, it's odd.
269
00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:21,800
Like, working with dead bodies
and [bleep].
270
00:08:21,869 --> 00:08:23,802
She actually sent me a picture,
like the caskets and stuff.
271
00:08:23,871 --> 00:08:25,303
She's like, "Yeah,
we had, like, a few bodies
272
00:08:25,372 --> 00:08:26,638
come in today."
- Oh, my God.
273
00:08:26,707 --> 00:08:28,173
- I was like,
"I don't even wanna know."
274
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Look.
- Mm.
275
00:08:29,877 --> 00:08:31,977
Oh, my God.
276
00:08:32,045 --> 00:08:33,512
- She said these all came in?
277
00:08:33,580 --> 00:08:35,580
- Yeah, she said, "Hey, sorry,
I had a long day.
278
00:08:35,649 --> 00:08:37,482
12 bodies came in."
I didn't even ask.
279
00:08:37,551 --> 00:08:39,117
Like, I didn't even wanna ask.
- I wouldn't either.
280
00:08:39,186 --> 00:08:40,485
- And then, this is her?
281
00:08:40,554 --> 00:08:42,654
- Yeah, and I have
more pictures of her.
282
00:08:42,723 --> 00:08:43,889
- She's definitely fine.
283
00:08:43,957 --> 00:08:45,690
- She fine as hell.
- And here's another one.
284
00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:47,259
- And these are all
the same girl.
285
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- For a girl who doesn't have
any social media,
286
00:08:48,862 --> 00:08:51,363
she certainly has a lot
of nice pictures of her...
287
00:08:51,431 --> 00:08:53,164
- Mm.
- All ready to send.
288
00:08:53,233 --> 00:08:54,900
- Yeah.
289
00:08:54,968 --> 00:08:56,635
- All right,
so she's very pretty.
290
00:08:56,703 --> 00:08:58,470
- Gorgeous.
- So tell us everything
291
00:08:58,539 --> 00:08:59,604
you do know about Stephanie.
292
00:08:59,673 --> 00:09:01,773
- So she's 22.
She's from New York.
293
00:09:01,842 --> 00:09:03,675
She lives on her own,
but she told me
294
00:09:03,744 --> 00:09:04,843
that she's in Washington,
295
00:09:04,912 --> 00:09:06,278
because she's visiting family.
296
00:09:06,346 --> 00:09:07,879
- Mm-hmm.
- Interesting, okay.
297
00:09:07,948 --> 00:09:09,347
How often are you guys talking?
298
00:09:09,416 --> 00:09:10,315
- See, this is the problem.
299
00:09:10,384 --> 00:09:11,616
It's a little difficult,
because
300
00:09:11,685 --> 00:09:13,018
since she's a mortician,
she's always underground,
301
00:09:13,086 --> 00:09:15,020
so she has bad service.
- Right.
302
00:09:15,088 --> 00:09:16,087
- I was wanting to FaceTime,
303
00:09:16,156 --> 00:09:17,522
but I didn't wanna be too pushy
304
00:09:17,591 --> 00:09:19,724
and make her uncomfortable
or anything like that.
305
00:09:19,793 --> 00:09:21,893
- At what point, then,
did you exchange phone numbers?
306
00:09:21,962 --> 00:09:23,762
- She sent me her number,
actually, recently.
307
00:09:23,830 --> 00:09:24,863
- Oh.
- Before then, we were just
308
00:09:24,932 --> 00:09:26,364
talking on Snap.
- Do you do voice calls?
309
00:09:26,433 --> 00:09:28,567
- Yeah.
- She had a voice that you feel
310
00:09:28,635 --> 00:09:29,968
matches how she looks?
311
00:09:30,037 --> 00:09:31,870
- Yeah, she sounds
like a young woman, yeah.
312
00:09:31,939 --> 00:09:33,104
- What's her personality like?
313
00:09:33,173 --> 00:09:35,273
- She's just really cute,
caring, supportive.
314
00:09:37,344 --> 00:09:39,377
Just her always being there,
no matter what,
315
00:09:39,446 --> 00:09:40,812
it's just--it's really hot.
316
00:09:40,881 --> 00:09:43,715
♪ ♪
317
00:09:43,784 --> 00:09:45,850
I feel like the connection
is beyond, like, looks.
318
00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:48,353
- ♪ Running
all around my brain ♪
319
00:09:48,422 --> 00:09:49,754
- I'd say, "I love you."
320
00:09:49,823 --> 00:09:51,523
- Wow.
- We talked about marriage.
321
00:09:51,592 --> 00:09:52,958
- Really?
322
00:09:53,026 --> 00:09:55,060
- ♪ You're running
all around my brain ♪
323
00:09:55,128 --> 00:09:57,862
- Sounds to me like you really
feel an emotional connection.
324
00:09:57,931 --> 00:09:58,897
- Yeah, I feel like
the emotional part
325
00:09:58,966 --> 00:10:00,198
is definitely the strongest.
326
00:10:00,267 --> 00:10:01,933
- Have you guys talked
about meeting up?
327
00:10:02,002 --> 00:10:03,735
- So I told her I was waiting.
328
00:10:03,804 --> 00:10:05,437
Like, I told her
I was gonna save enough money
329
00:10:05,505 --> 00:10:06,838
so that I could take her out,
330
00:10:06,907 --> 00:10:08,773
treat her like a queen,
and things like that.
331
00:10:08,842 --> 00:10:10,375
So I guess the only thing
we're really waiting on
332
00:10:10,444 --> 00:10:11,576
is just me
to get my money right.
333
00:10:11,645 --> 00:10:13,745
- Right.
- That's nice.
334
00:10:13,814 --> 00:10:14,913
- All right.
335
00:10:14,982 --> 00:10:17,148
Well, send us
everything you have.
336
00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:18,516
We'll see if we find anything
337
00:10:18,585 --> 00:10:20,518
and go from there.
- Sounds good.
338
00:10:20,587 --> 00:10:21,920
- Good to meet you.
[smooches]
339
00:10:21,989 --> 00:10:23,488
- I'll see you guys soon.
- We'll see you tomorrow.
340
00:10:23,557 --> 00:10:24,923
- No parties.
- [laughs]
341
00:10:24,992 --> 00:10:26,491
- Yeah, or you're grounded.
342
00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:27,592
[laughter]
343
00:10:29,062 --> 00:10:31,196
Definitely, she's not
the girl in the pictures,
344
00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:32,364
for sure.
- Yeah, I mean, look,
345
00:10:32,432 --> 00:10:34,232
he knows there are red flags.
- Yeah.
346
00:10:34,301 --> 00:10:36,968
- But his emotional brain
347
00:10:37,037 --> 00:10:38,903
is flickering on.
- Yeah.
348
00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:42,040
- Because he's met a woman
who has shown him that
349
00:10:42,109 --> 00:10:44,376
emotional intimacy...
- Mm-hmm.
350
00:10:44,444 --> 00:10:46,011
- Is a very real,
important part
351
00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:48,680
of life and love.
- Yeah.
352
00:10:48,749 --> 00:10:50,281
- He's young, very vulnerable.
353
00:10:50,350 --> 00:10:51,983
he's had a really rough life.
354
00:10:52,052 --> 00:10:53,418
If this girl isn't real,
355
00:10:53,487 --> 00:10:55,120
this could get really ugly.
356
00:10:56,757 --> 00:10:58,556
- Time to investigate.
357
00:10:58,625 --> 00:11:00,358
What a morning.
This is--
358
00:11:00,427 --> 00:11:01,726
this is beautiful.
359
00:11:01,795 --> 00:11:04,562
- All right, so here we are.
- Mm-hmm.
360
00:11:04,631 --> 00:11:06,998
- Trying to help Jacob.
361
00:11:07,067 --> 00:11:08,600
He's 18--good-looking guy,
362
00:11:08,669 --> 00:11:10,935
grown up
in a less-than-ideal way--
363
00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:12,837
getting moved around,
in and out of foster care.
364
00:11:12,906 --> 00:11:14,039
Like, he's had--you know,
365
00:11:14,107 --> 00:11:15,373
he's had to sort of
make his own way.
366
00:11:15,442 --> 00:11:17,008
- Yeah, and still is.
367
00:11:17,077 --> 00:11:18,910
- Meets a girl via Tiktok.
368
00:11:18,979 --> 00:11:19,911
- Stephanie.
369
00:11:19,980 --> 00:11:21,079
- Quickly starts chatting,
370
00:11:21,148 --> 00:11:22,080
talking on Snap.
371
00:11:22,149 --> 00:11:23,381
They hit it off.
372
00:11:23,450 --> 00:11:25,050
He's in a very strange
crossroads in his life,
373
00:11:25,118 --> 00:11:26,551
because he doesn't have
a place to live,
374
00:11:26,620 --> 00:11:28,720
and I think he's hoping that,
375
00:11:28,789 --> 00:11:31,089
somehow, this could work out
with this girl.
376
00:11:31,158 --> 00:11:33,091
The problem is her almost
377
00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,826
complete lack
of social media presence.
378
00:11:34,895 --> 00:11:36,928
- Well, it's hard to post
pictures to Instagram
379
00:11:36,997 --> 00:11:38,897
when you're underground
in the mortuary.
380
00:11:38,965 --> 00:11:40,065
- Mm, that's right.
381
00:11:40,133 --> 00:11:41,800
All right, here we go--
Jacob G.
382
00:11:41,868 --> 00:11:43,301
"Hey, Nev and Kamie,
I really appreciate you guys
383
00:11:43,370 --> 00:11:44,703
"coming out here to help me.
384
00:11:44,771 --> 00:11:46,805
"I hope we're going
to find out some good news
385
00:11:46,873 --> 00:11:48,406
"when you investigate.
386
00:11:48,475 --> 00:11:49,874
"Here's the information
I have for Stephanie.
387
00:11:49,943 --> 00:11:51,910
"She's 22, lives in Manhattan,
388
00:11:51,978 --> 00:11:53,445
"and is a mortician.
389
00:11:53,513 --> 00:11:54,913
Here's the phone number
she sent me,"
390
00:11:54,981 --> 00:11:56,081
and the link to her Facebook,
391
00:11:56,149 --> 00:11:59,117
Tiktok handle,
and her Snapchat.
392
00:11:59,186 --> 00:12:00,885
"I've attached the pictures
that I have of her.
393
00:12:00,954 --> 00:12:02,087
Thank you, Jacob G."
394
00:12:02,155 --> 00:12:04,122
All right,
let's download these pictures.
395
00:12:04,191 --> 00:12:06,257
Let's start
with the body bag picture.
396
00:12:06,326 --> 00:12:08,093
Body bags.
397
00:12:08,161 --> 00:12:09,728
Let's see what we get.
398
00:12:09,796 --> 00:12:11,096
Oh, psh.
399
00:12:11,164 --> 00:12:12,864
It's a stock photo.
400
00:12:12,933 --> 00:12:14,132
- [laughs]
401
00:12:14,201 --> 00:12:16,101
Hospital morgue
at its full capacity.
402
00:12:16,169 --> 00:12:17,302
- Okay.
- Oh, my God.
403
00:12:17,370 --> 00:12:18,503
- So the body bags picture--
404
00:12:18,572 --> 00:12:21,639
obviously
not something she took,
405
00:12:21,708 --> 00:12:23,908
which makes me
pretty confident that
406
00:12:23,977 --> 00:12:25,343
it's probably
not true that she works...
407
00:12:25,412 --> 00:12:26,511
- No.
- As a mortician.
408
00:12:26,580 --> 00:12:28,313
- Like, why would you
make that up?
409
00:12:28,381 --> 00:12:29,581
- So now I think
we should just search
410
00:12:29,649 --> 00:12:31,149
pictures of her.
You wanna do this one?
411
00:12:31,218 --> 00:12:33,017
Okay.
412
00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:34,419
I'm feelin' like
we're gonna get a hit here.
413
00:12:34,488 --> 00:12:36,387
- Mm-hmm.
- For sure.
414
00:12:38,191 --> 00:12:39,357
- Oh, that's definitely her.
415
00:12:39,426 --> 00:12:40,358
- That's definitely her.
416
00:12:40,427 --> 00:12:42,360
Let's see what this website is.
417
00:12:42,429 --> 00:12:44,596
Party 50 Fridays--
418
00:12:44,664 --> 00:12:46,765
okay, so it's just like,
uh, party pictures.
419
00:12:46,833 --> 00:12:48,299
Okay.
420
00:12:48,368 --> 00:12:50,835
So there's this picture,
which is her and her friend.
421
00:12:50,904 --> 00:12:53,471
Okay, let's search
this friend's face.
422
00:12:53,540 --> 00:12:54,739
- Oh, yeah,
maybe her friend's face
423
00:12:54,808 --> 00:12:56,641
might come up.
- So if we can find friend,
424
00:12:56,710 --> 00:12:58,042
then there's a good chance,
425
00:12:58,111 --> 00:12:59,344
if they're close,
426
00:12:59,412 --> 00:13:01,012
she might be on her Instagram.
427
00:13:01,081 --> 00:13:02,347
- Right.
- Ah!
428
00:13:02,415 --> 00:13:03,448
There she is.
429
00:13:03,517 --> 00:13:04,716
That's the friend, right?
430
00:13:04,785 --> 00:13:05,784
- That's her.
- Whoa.
431
00:13:05,852 --> 00:13:07,051
- Who is that though?
432
00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,553
- I don't know.
433
00:13:08,622 --> 00:13:09,654
What is this?
434
00:13:11,224 --> 00:13:12,357
It's like a high school--
- Sports.
435
00:13:12,425 --> 00:13:13,691
- Ooh, yes!
436
00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,593
- Lisbeth.
- All right, got something.
437
00:13:15,662 --> 00:13:17,061
- She was a sophomore in 2011.
438
00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:18,897
- All right,
so Lisbeth [bleep].
439
00:13:18,965 --> 00:13:21,332
Let's see if we can find her
on Instagram.
440
00:13:21,401 --> 00:13:22,534
Ah, is that her?
441
00:13:22,602 --> 00:13:23,635
I think that is, right?
- That's her.
442
00:13:23,703 --> 00:13:25,069
Check the tag--
and the followers.
443
00:13:25,138 --> 00:13:26,137
We can see.
444
00:13:26,206 --> 00:13:27,505
- Are we really gonna scroll
445
00:13:27,574 --> 00:13:29,374
through a thousand accounts,
looking for Stephanie?
446
00:13:29,442 --> 00:13:31,743
- If that's even her name.
447
00:13:31,812 --> 00:13:34,212
Wait, go back.
448
00:13:34,281 --> 00:13:35,580
That's her.
449
00:13:35,649 --> 00:13:38,516
Janelle!
- [gasps]
450
00:13:38,585 --> 00:13:42,220
[sighs]
- [laughs]
451
00:13:42,289 --> 00:13:45,023
Janelle, Janelle, Janelle.
- Oh, there's the pic.
452
00:13:45,091 --> 00:13:46,491
both: There it is.
453
00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:49,527
- Mayumi, Janelle Mayumi.
454
00:13:49,596 --> 00:13:51,996
- Mm.
- 23,000 followers.
455
00:13:52,065 --> 00:13:53,531
- Mm.
- Lots of pics.
456
00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,700
Here's the other pic
that he has of her,
457
00:13:55,769 --> 00:13:57,268
but there's obviously
a lot more pictures.
458
00:13:57,337 --> 00:13:58,269
- Mm-hmm.
459
00:13:58,338 --> 00:14:00,071
- She's in Miami, Florida.
460
00:14:00,140 --> 00:14:01,105
All right.
461
00:14:01,174 --> 00:14:03,141
Let's send this girl a message.
462
00:14:03,210 --> 00:14:05,210
This girl's a model,
not a mortician,
463
00:14:05,278 --> 00:14:06,544
and definitely not the girl
464
00:14:06,613 --> 00:14:08,847
who Jacob's talking to.
465
00:14:08,915 --> 00:14:10,081
Sent.
466
00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:11,616
- So then who is he talking to?
467
00:14:11,685 --> 00:14:13,585
We need to look up
that phone number.
468
00:14:13,653 --> 00:14:15,587
- All right, yes, let's
look up the phone number.
469
00:14:15,655 --> 00:14:17,589
[dramatic music]
470
00:14:17,657 --> 00:14:19,257
Nothing. All right.
471
00:14:19,326 --> 00:14:21,092
So nothing with the phone.
472
00:14:21,161 --> 00:14:22,427
- The Facebook that
she sent him with his picture.
473
00:14:22,495 --> 00:14:23,528
- Oh, right.
474
00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:27,165
Okay, so here's
the Facebook page,
475
00:14:27,234 --> 00:14:29,033
which is just a banner picture
of him,
476
00:14:29,102 --> 00:14:30,935
but a profile picture
of her.
477
00:14:31,004 --> 00:14:33,104
- Not her.
- It says, "Fun, energetic,
478
00:14:33,173 --> 00:14:35,406
family-oriented, and talking
to my future husband."
479
00:14:35,475 --> 00:14:37,075
Lives in New York,
from Brooklyn,
480
00:14:37,143 --> 00:14:38,610
in a relationship--okay.
481
00:14:38,678 --> 00:14:39,911
But this page has been up
since 2016.
482
00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:41,246
- Mm-hmm.
483
00:14:41,314 --> 00:14:43,481
- So probably
was a different page,
484
00:14:43,550 --> 00:14:45,116
and then she just...
- Mm-hmm.
485
00:14:45,185 --> 00:14:46,117
- Wiped it clean
486
00:14:46,186 --> 00:14:47,785
and turned it into this weird
487
00:14:47,854 --> 00:14:49,587
relationship page.
488
00:14:49,656 --> 00:14:50,989
What else do we have?
489
00:14:51,057 --> 00:14:52,590
[clicking tongue]
- I give up.
490
00:14:52,659 --> 00:14:54,592
I feel like this is gonna be
one of those situations
491
00:14:54,661 --> 00:14:57,395
where we're
at whoever-this-is' mercy
492
00:14:57,464 --> 00:14:59,597
to tell us the truth--
493
00:14:59,666 --> 00:15:01,966
like, to present to them
what it is that we know...
494
00:15:02,035 --> 00:15:03,334
- Right.
- And have them come forward.
495
00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:05,670
- I think knowing
what we now know,
496
00:15:05,739 --> 00:15:07,071
we can tell that to Jacob,
497
00:15:07,140 --> 00:15:09,207
and we can go to--
directly to Stephanie
498
00:15:09,276 --> 00:15:10,174
and say, "Hey, look,
499
00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:11,409
"we already know
500
00:15:11,478 --> 00:15:12,977
"a lot of what you told him
isn't true.
501
00:15:13,046 --> 00:15:15,546
Why don't you start telling us
something that is?"
502
00:15:18,184 --> 00:15:19,851
- [sighs] Poor Jacob.
503
00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,319
I mean, he's definitely
gonna be bummed.
504
00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:22,921
- Yeah.
- It would be one thing
505
00:15:22,989 --> 00:15:24,689
if it wasn't the girl
in the pictures.
506
00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:26,090
- Mm-hmm.
- But the fact that
507
00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:28,259
it looks like everything
she's told him is not true...
508
00:15:28,328 --> 00:15:30,094
- Mm-hmm.
- That's rough.
509
00:15:31,398 --> 00:15:33,164
Okay.
510
00:15:33,233 --> 00:15:34,499
- Hello.
- ♪ Hello ♪
511
00:15:34,567 --> 00:15:35,867
- Welcome to my humble abode.
512
00:15:35,936 --> 00:15:38,236
- Oh, thank you. Cozy!
513
00:15:38,305 --> 00:15:40,371
- It is nice and cozy.
514
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,472
- [sighs]
515
00:15:41,541 --> 00:15:42,640
- All right.
516
00:15:42,709 --> 00:15:44,375
Well, where are you
with everything?
517
00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:46,945
I mean, look, I know,
yesterday, you were excited.
518
00:15:47,013 --> 00:15:48,813
- Yeah.
- But where are you today?
519
00:15:48,882 --> 00:15:50,048
- Feeling a little anxious.
520
00:15:50,116 --> 00:15:52,383
I'm just really hoping
521
00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:53,751
that this is, like, for real.
522
00:15:53,820 --> 00:15:55,153
For real, for real.
523
00:15:55,221 --> 00:15:57,021
But I'm ready for you guys
to, like, tell me what's up.
524
00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:59,524
Let's see where things go.
525
00:15:59,592 --> 00:16:01,793
- So let me show you
what we found.
526
00:16:01,861 --> 00:16:03,227
All right.
527
00:16:03,296 --> 00:16:05,196
Let's talk about what we're
dealing with here, okay?
528
00:16:05,265 --> 00:16:07,398
- Okay.
- So we downloaded
529
00:16:07,467 --> 00:16:08,566
all the photos
that you sent us.
530
00:16:08,635 --> 00:16:09,701
We thought, "Let's start there.
531
00:16:09,769 --> 00:16:12,070
"Let's see if we can find out
532
00:16:12,138 --> 00:16:14,272
"if these pictures
that she sent,
533
00:16:14,341 --> 00:16:17,542
"both of her and of the bodies
in the morgue,
534
00:16:17,610 --> 00:16:19,410
if they're really
who she says they are."
535
00:16:19,479 --> 00:16:20,845
- Yeah.
536
00:16:20,914 --> 00:16:23,414
- So we searched this picture,
kay?
537
00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:25,717
- Mm-hmm.
- And when we ran the photo,
538
00:16:25,785 --> 00:16:27,518
we found a hit.
539
00:16:27,587 --> 00:16:29,087
It's a stock photo.
540
00:16:29,155 --> 00:16:30,755
- Oh, man.
541
00:16:30,824 --> 00:16:32,991
- Okay?
So it exists on the internet,
542
00:16:33,059 --> 00:16:34,826
where she clearly found
this picture.
543
00:16:34,894 --> 00:16:36,394
She did not take this photo.
544
00:16:36,463 --> 00:16:37,695
- [sighs]
545
00:16:37,764 --> 00:16:39,197
- So if she lied
about this picture,
546
00:16:39,265 --> 00:16:40,732
I think it's safe to say
there's a good chance
547
00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,934
she's not a mortician.
548
00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:44,335
- Oh, my God.
549
00:16:44,404 --> 00:16:47,372
- The next thing we did
was we looked up her photo,
550
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,808
and the first photo
we looked up was this one,
551
00:16:50,877 --> 00:16:54,145
and it came back
with a facial recognition match
552
00:16:54,214 --> 00:16:55,980
to a girl.
553
00:16:56,049 --> 00:16:58,616
It took us to this party page,
554
00:16:58,685 --> 00:17:01,019
and when you go
another photo over,
555
00:17:01,087 --> 00:17:03,254
we find a picture of her
with a friend.
556
00:17:03,323 --> 00:17:04,889
So we searched the friend,
557
00:17:04,958 --> 00:17:06,591
and we got some hits.
558
00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:09,827
So that took us
to her Instagram page,
559
00:17:09,896 --> 00:17:11,763
where we took a look
at the followers
560
00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:13,297
to see if we could find
an account
561
00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:15,233
with Stephanie's photos,
562
00:17:15,301 --> 00:17:18,703
and we found a Janelle Mayumi.
563
00:17:18,772 --> 00:17:20,738
We went to her page,
564
00:17:20,807 --> 00:17:23,541
and we found this.
565
00:17:23,610 --> 00:17:26,077
This is Janelle.
566
00:17:26,146 --> 00:17:27,645
She's a model in Miami.
567
00:17:27,714 --> 00:17:29,680
The person you're talking to
has been stealing
568
00:17:29,749 --> 00:17:31,816
this girl's photos.
569
00:17:31,885 --> 00:17:35,453
[somber music]
570
00:17:35,522 --> 00:17:37,088
So all the pictures
you have of her
571
00:17:37,157 --> 00:17:38,823
can be found on this Instagram,
572
00:17:38,892 --> 00:17:42,693
which goes back pretty far.
573
00:17:42,762 --> 00:17:44,962
Everything
about this page to us
574
00:17:45,031 --> 00:17:46,597
felt very real.
575
00:17:46,666 --> 00:17:47,765
A lot of comments.
576
00:17:47,834 --> 00:17:49,500
She's tagged in photos.
577
00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:53,137
I mean, clearly, that's not
who you're talking to.
578
00:17:53,206 --> 00:17:54,839
- [sighs]
579
00:17:54,908 --> 00:17:55,973
That's crazy.
580
00:17:56,042 --> 00:17:59,777
♪ ♪
581
00:17:59,846 --> 00:18:01,846
[sighs]
582
00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:03,815
Honestly, I don't even know
how to feel right now.
583
00:18:03,883 --> 00:18:09,220
♪ ♪
584
00:18:11,991 --> 00:18:13,391
[sighs]
585
00:18:17,030 --> 00:18:19,163
[sighs]
586
00:18:19,232 --> 00:18:20,798
[door slams]
587
00:18:20,867 --> 00:18:22,967
- I think he's been shaking
the whole time.
588
00:18:23,036 --> 00:18:25,503
- [screams]
[object slams]
589
00:18:25,572 --> 00:18:27,338
[screaming]
590
00:18:29,109 --> 00:18:30,475
- [whispers] Yeah.
591
00:18:30,543 --> 00:18:33,478
[tense music]
592
00:18:33,546 --> 00:18:38,149
♪ ♪
593
00:18:38,218 --> 00:18:41,352
- [sighing]
594
00:18:41,421 --> 00:18:42,553
- You okay?
595
00:18:42,622 --> 00:18:44,522
- Oh, my [bleep] God, dude.
596
00:18:45,792 --> 00:18:47,692
[sighs]
597
00:18:51,064 --> 00:18:52,997
I'm [bleep] done.
598
00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:58,336
♪ ♪
599
00:18:58,404 --> 00:19:01,172
Oh, my [bleep] God.
600
00:19:01,241 --> 00:19:02,206
[bleep].
601
00:19:02,275 --> 00:19:09,313
♪ ♪
602
00:19:10,917 --> 00:19:12,049
- You all right?
603
00:19:14,888 --> 00:19:16,888
- No.
604
00:19:16,956 --> 00:19:20,258
I think you have
to give it words,
605
00:19:20,326 --> 00:19:22,894
so it's not just, like,
building up inside of you.
606
00:19:24,864 --> 00:19:26,831
- If I give it words,
I'ma get really mad.
607
00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:28,232
- It's okay.
608
00:19:29,969 --> 00:19:31,569
- [sighs]
609
00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:36,040
- Well, if you want for us to
go through the rest quickly--
610
00:19:36,109 --> 00:19:37,608
- Yeah, let's go.
611
00:19:37,677 --> 00:19:39,777
- We just--we looked up
the phone number.
612
00:19:39,846 --> 00:19:42,547
We tried to find if that was
the real girl's Facebook.
613
00:19:42,615 --> 00:19:43,748
We looked up the phone number.
614
00:19:43,816 --> 00:19:45,750
Nothing came back
on any website.
615
00:19:45,818 --> 00:19:48,186
At this point,
because we can't find anything
616
00:19:48,254 --> 00:19:50,054
on the actual person
that you're talking to,
617
00:19:50,123 --> 00:19:51,956
we're really at their mercy
618
00:19:52,025 --> 00:19:53,758
as to whether or not
they're gonna come forward
619
00:19:53,793 --> 00:19:56,027
and tell you the truth.
620
00:19:56,095 --> 00:19:58,563
You sure you wanna
keep going now?
621
00:19:58,631 --> 00:20:01,365
- Yeah, I wanna figure out
who the [bleep] I'm talking to.
622
00:20:01,434 --> 00:20:03,100
- So I know
that you're pissed off,
623
00:20:03,169 --> 00:20:05,369
and I would be
[bleep] pissed off too,
624
00:20:05,438 --> 00:20:07,371
but if you want real answers,
625
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,540
we're going to have to play
a little bit of a game.
626
00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:11,275
- [shouting] Who the [bleep]
am I talking to, bro?
627
00:20:11,344 --> 00:20:14,445
Who the [bleep] is this
dumbass bitch right here?
628
00:20:14,514 --> 00:20:16,414
I've been talking
to some fake-ass bitch!
629
00:20:16,482 --> 00:20:18,616
Like, what?
I shared so many [bleep]
630
00:20:18,685 --> 00:20:19,617
about me, like, I opened up!
631
00:20:19,686 --> 00:20:21,018
Like, what the [bleep]?
632
00:20:21,087 --> 00:20:22,386
[sighs]
633
00:20:22,455 --> 00:20:23,487
Oh, my God!
634
00:20:25,525 --> 00:20:26,591
- Who the [bleep]
am I talking to, bro?
635
00:20:26,659 --> 00:20:28,159
I've been talking
to some fake-ass bitch!
636
00:20:28,228 --> 00:20:29,460
Like, what the [bleep]?
637
00:20:29,529 --> 00:20:31,028
[sighs]
638
00:20:31,097 --> 00:20:32,129
Oh, my God!
639
00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:37,101
Oh, my [bleep] God.
640
00:20:42,642 --> 00:20:44,308
[screams]
641
00:20:47,113 --> 00:20:49,146
- Makes me so sad.
- Mm-hmm.
642
00:20:49,215 --> 00:20:50,581
- He just has so much pain.
643
00:20:50,650 --> 00:20:52,683
He's already been through
so much [bleep] pain.
644
00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:54,518
It's like really...
645
00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:00,124
- We could chill here
for a minute.
646
00:21:03,363 --> 00:21:06,364
- [sighs]
647
00:21:06,432 --> 00:21:07,465
You know how--dude,
648
00:21:07,533 --> 00:21:10,968
it takes so much
to my trust in somebody!
649
00:21:11,037 --> 00:21:13,938
[panting]
650
00:21:14,007 --> 00:21:16,340
[bleep] never ends, bro!
651
00:21:18,878 --> 00:21:20,544
Nah, let's figure out
who the [bleep] this is, bro,
652
00:21:20,613 --> 00:21:22,780
'cause I don't--
653
00:21:22,849 --> 00:21:24,649
who does [bleep] like that?
654
00:21:24,717 --> 00:21:25,683
- It's all right.
655
00:21:25,752 --> 00:21:28,486
[dramatic music]
656
00:21:28,554 --> 00:21:32,323
♪ ♪
657
00:21:32,392 --> 00:21:34,825
- All right,
we'll get through it.
658
00:21:34,894 --> 00:21:36,727
- [sighs]
659
00:21:36,796 --> 00:21:39,563
I just know I'm not gonna
be able to trust nobody.
660
00:21:39,632 --> 00:21:42,133
- We got you.
We also don't have to do this
661
00:21:42,201 --> 00:21:45,069
any more today, by the way.
- Okay.
662
00:21:45,138 --> 00:21:52,176
♪ ♪
663
00:21:54,681 --> 00:21:57,014
I feel like [bleep] right now.
664
00:21:57,083 --> 00:21:58,649
- All right, well,
here's what we were thinking.
665
00:21:58,718 --> 00:22:01,118
Maybe we can go
back to the hotel,
666
00:22:01,187 --> 00:22:02,253
leave you to chill.
667
00:22:02,322 --> 00:22:04,322
We can reach out to her.
- Yeah.
668
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:06,490
- Find out where she is.
We'll update you later,
669
00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:07,925
and then we'll figure out
a plan, and--
670
00:22:07,994 --> 00:22:09,360
- I appreciate you guys.
671
00:22:09,429 --> 00:22:15,599
♪ ♪
672
00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:18,536
- Talk to you later, bud.
673
00:22:18,604 --> 00:22:19,537
- Yup.
- Kay.
674
00:22:19,605 --> 00:22:22,239
I'll talk to you soon.
- Mm-kay.
675
00:22:22,308 --> 00:22:23,641
- Thank you.
676
00:22:23,710 --> 00:22:27,078
[sighs] Oh, my gosh.
677
00:22:27,146 --> 00:22:29,880
How are we gonna handle
this one?
678
00:22:29,949 --> 00:22:31,115
He's been through so much.
679
00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:33,484
Like, his life is already been
680
00:22:33,553 --> 00:22:34,852
kicking his [bleep] ass,
681
00:22:34,921 --> 00:22:36,854
and he's only 18 years old.
- Yeah.
682
00:22:36,923 --> 00:22:39,023
Also, that was the reaction
683
00:22:39,092 --> 00:22:41,892
just to finding out what we
don't know about Stephanie.
684
00:22:41,961 --> 00:22:44,228
- Right.
- Who knows what we'll actually
685
00:22:44,297 --> 00:22:45,596
discover
and how that'll affect him.
686
00:22:45,665 --> 00:22:47,298
- Right.
Is he prepared
687
00:22:47,367 --> 00:22:49,700
to deal with that?
- Yeah, let's text Stephanie
688
00:22:49,769 --> 00:22:51,702
tonight and see
if we can get her to meet up,
689
00:22:51,771 --> 00:22:52,970
but I think
we have to really think
690
00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:55,272
about what's best for Jacob
in this situation
691
00:22:55,341 --> 00:22:58,275
and if meeting her
is even something we should do.
692
00:22:58,344 --> 00:22:59,543
- [sighs]
It kind of depends
693
00:22:59,612 --> 00:23:01,145
on who she really is.
694
00:23:01,214 --> 00:23:03,714
But I don't know.
695
00:23:03,783 --> 00:23:05,850
♪ ♪
696
00:23:05,918 --> 00:23:09,220
- Okay, last night,
we got a text
697
00:23:09,288 --> 00:23:11,455
from Stephanie,
and she wants to meet.
698
00:23:11,524 --> 00:23:14,125
Here we go.
- Hey.
699
00:23:14,193 --> 00:23:16,293
- I have updates
from Stephanie.
700
00:23:16,362 --> 00:23:17,528
She says, "You can meet me
701
00:23:17,597 --> 00:23:19,697
"at my friend's house
in Spokane.
702
00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:21,232
Here's the address."
703
00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:23,234
So if you're down, we have to
kind of roll the dice here
704
00:23:23,302 --> 00:23:24,802
and just hope for the best.
705
00:23:24,871 --> 00:23:25,936
You sure you're up for this?
706
00:23:26,005 --> 00:23:29,306
- Yeah.
- Yeah, so let's hit the road.
707
00:23:35,248 --> 00:23:38,082
- ♪ The heart you keep ♪
708
00:23:38,151 --> 00:23:39,583
♪ Would barely miss a beat ♪
709
00:23:39,652 --> 00:23:41,852
♪ Novocaine ♪
710
00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:44,989
♪ To numb the pain ♪
711
00:23:45,057 --> 00:23:49,026
♪ Forever,
I'll be drifting away ♪
712
00:23:49,095 --> 00:23:51,929
♪ It's all the same ♪
713
00:23:51,998 --> 00:23:54,865
♪ Trash my name ♪
714
00:23:54,934 --> 00:23:58,636
♪ Floating, wasted,
drifting away ♪
715
00:23:58,704 --> 00:24:01,172
♪ So tell me I'm just a fool ♪
716
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,540
- Whoo!
717
00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:03,607
- ♪ Tell me ♪
718
00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:04,842
- Whoo!
719
00:24:06,779 --> 00:24:07,711
- ♪ Tell me, tell me ♪
720
00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:08,679
- Washington, baby.
721
00:24:08,748 --> 00:24:10,080
Let's text Stephanie.
722
00:24:14,487 --> 00:24:18,189
[phone dings]
Said, "I need a few hours."
723
00:24:18,257 --> 00:24:20,391
Why don't we go to our hotel?
724
00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:22,493
We'll check in,
and then, hopefully,
725
00:24:22,562 --> 00:24:24,128
we'll hear from her.
- I'll try to keep my calm,
726
00:24:24,197 --> 00:24:26,397
but if it's a dude, I'm beating
the [bleep] out of him.
727
00:24:26,466 --> 00:24:28,833
- Either way,
I hope whoever they are,
728
00:24:28,901 --> 00:24:29,834
they're respectful.
729
00:24:29,902 --> 00:24:31,335
That's the most
important thing.
730
00:24:31,404 --> 00:24:33,838
- ♪ Do I just
push them all away? ♪
731
00:24:33,906 --> 00:24:35,973
♪ Now, the heart I keep ♪
732
00:24:36,042 --> 00:24:37,074
- This is it.
733
00:24:37,143 --> 00:24:38,342
- ♪ Keeps breaking on repeat ♪
734
00:24:38,411 --> 00:24:40,845
♪ Novocaine ♪
735
00:24:41,781 --> 00:24:43,147
[message swooshes]
- Oh, boy.
736
00:24:43,216 --> 00:24:44,315
We got an update.
737
00:24:44,383 --> 00:24:46,150
"I'm ready now.
You can come over."
738
00:24:46,219 --> 00:24:49,487
- Mm-kay.
- "Okay, gonna head over soon."
739
00:24:49,555 --> 00:24:51,021
[message swooshes]
All right, let's get in the car
740
00:24:51,090 --> 00:24:53,657
and tell Jacob
to meet us in the car.
741
00:24:53,726 --> 00:24:55,593
- All right.
- Pull around.
742
00:24:55,661 --> 00:24:58,229
- So what are we gonna do when
this girl doesn't come outside?
743
00:24:58,297 --> 00:24:59,697
'Cause that's--
744
00:24:59,765 --> 00:25:00,965
Hi.
- Hello.
745
00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:02,566
- Are you guys here
filming an episode, or...
746
00:25:02,635 --> 00:25:03,634
- Oh.
- Yeah.
747
00:25:03,703 --> 00:25:05,002
- Are you here
for last year's catfish?
748
00:25:05,071 --> 00:25:07,338
- We did an episode in Spokane.
- Did we?
749
00:25:07,406 --> 00:25:08,706
- Right around the corner.
- Wait, which one?
750
00:25:08,774 --> 00:25:10,040
- Last year?
I'm tryna think--
751
00:25:10,109 --> 00:25:12,243
- He lives around here,
not that far away.
752
00:25:12,311 --> 00:25:14,545
- Who lives around here?
- I think his name is Isaax.
753
00:25:14,614 --> 00:25:15,713
- Isaax!
754
00:25:15,781 --> 00:25:17,248
- Uh, hi, guys.
755
00:25:17,316 --> 00:25:18,582
- Oh, my--
- Isaax was the one
756
00:25:18,651 --> 00:25:19,817
with the hotel.
- Wait, no.
757
00:25:19,886 --> 00:25:21,252
- The--with the--
- Sorry, you guys,
758
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,553
I gotta go to work.
- Hold on--oh.
759
00:25:22,622 --> 00:25:23,754
You work here?
- Yeah, I do.
760
00:25:23,823 --> 00:25:25,589
- Oh, okay, anyway, thanks.
761
00:25:25,658 --> 00:25:28,058
- Isaax was the one--
- Who had the friend
762
00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:29,126
come on camera?
763
00:25:29,195 --> 00:25:30,261
- I just wanted to say
764
00:25:30,329 --> 00:25:31,762
that I wanted to apologize.
765
00:25:31,831 --> 00:25:33,030
- Yes!
- Well, that--
766
00:25:33,099 --> 00:25:34,131
- Yes, the woman!
He had the woman
767
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,099
come on camera--
- Right, from that--
768
00:25:35,167 --> 00:25:36,100
Who was that woman
769
00:25:36,168 --> 00:25:37,568
that was just talking to us?
770
00:25:37,637 --> 00:25:39,937
- Um, that--that
wasn't her talking.
771
00:25:40,006 --> 00:25:42,373
That was me.
- Oh, that was you talking.
772
00:25:42,441 --> 00:25:43,707
- I need evidence.
773
00:25:43,776 --> 00:25:45,209
- [as a woman]
Hi, and how are you?
774
00:25:45,278 --> 00:25:46,243
- He had the woman
come on camera--
775
00:25:46,312 --> 00:25:47,611
- With the voice thing.
- Yes.
776
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,513
- He lives close by,
but we never met up with him,
777
00:25:49,582 --> 00:25:51,515
because we just videochatted.
- We did a virtual one,
778
00:25:51,584 --> 00:25:52,983
because it was the pandemic.
- Oh, my God.
779
00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:55,052
- He was talking
to fine-ass Bryn.
780
00:25:55,121 --> 00:25:56,086
- Bryn!
With a Y.
781
00:25:56,155 --> 00:25:57,922
- Bryn was talking to--to--
782
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:58,889
what was her name?
- Stephanie--
783
00:25:58,958 --> 00:26:01,458
Stephanie!
It was Stephanie!
784
00:26:01,527 --> 00:26:03,627
It was--oh, my God.
785
00:26:03,696 --> 00:26:05,663
- [laughing] Son of a bitch.
What?
786
00:26:07,366 --> 00:26:09,166
- Oh, my God.
787
00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:10,601
It is all coming back to me.
788
00:26:10,670 --> 00:26:11,802
- It's Isaax.
- It's gotta be him.
789
00:26:11,871 --> 00:26:15,172
- Bryn was also on Tiktok,
just like Jacob.
790
00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:16,574
- Jesus.
791
00:26:16,642 --> 00:26:19,710
- Both cute, young guys--
- Catfishing for young men.
792
00:26:19,779 --> 00:26:21,845
- And Isaax said that
he knew how to turn 'em.
793
00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:23,347
- In the past, I've catfished,
794
00:26:23,416 --> 00:26:25,616
and I go for straight guys.
795
00:26:25,685 --> 00:26:26,984
I've came clean to them,
796
00:26:27,053 --> 00:26:29,086
and it ended up
being a relationship.
797
00:26:29,155 --> 00:26:31,155
- Well, Isaax, even though
you've done it in the past,
798
00:26:31,223 --> 00:26:33,691
and it's worked out for you,
that doesn't make it right.
799
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:35,659
You are perpetuating
this stereotype
800
00:26:35,728 --> 00:26:38,929
that gay guys are out
to turn straight men.
801
00:26:38,998 --> 00:26:40,464
And I got on his ass,
802
00:26:40,533 --> 00:26:42,600
and here we are again?
803
00:26:42,668 --> 00:26:45,235
- We clearly didn't
get through to him.
804
00:26:45,304 --> 00:26:46,971
- Jacob, earlier,
said if it's a guy...
805
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:48,272
- Right.
- "I'm gonna knock him
806
00:26:48,341 --> 00:26:50,174
the [bleep] out."
We can't bring Jacob to that.
807
00:26:50,242 --> 00:26:51,809
There's no [bleep] way.
808
00:26:51,877 --> 00:26:53,310
- Maybe we should
go over there first.
809
00:26:53,379 --> 00:26:54,678
- Yes.
- Make sure that whoever it is
810
00:26:54,747 --> 00:26:56,981
is cool and not gonna
blow things up with Jacob.
811
00:26:57,049 --> 00:26:58,349
- Yeah.
- And then, potentially,
812
00:26:58,417 --> 00:27:00,084
tomorrow,
bring Jacob to meet up.
813
00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:02,119
- Yeah, clearly.
- 'Cause Isaax--
814
00:27:02,188 --> 00:27:05,055
didn't he have--wasn't he
also, like, sassy with Bryn?
815
00:27:05,124 --> 00:27:06,223
- I see it differently.
816
00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:07,858
- We know
you see it differently.
817
00:27:07,927 --> 00:27:09,159
- What is love?
818
00:27:09,228 --> 00:27:10,928
If Bryn ever gets
that wild hair in his ass
819
00:27:10,997 --> 00:27:12,496
and, you know,
he wants to call Stephanie,
820
00:27:12,565 --> 00:27:13,897
I'm still here.
821
00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:15,399
- [sighs]
- But luckily,
822
00:27:15,468 --> 00:27:16,800
Bryn...
- Was chill.
823
00:27:16,869 --> 00:27:18,769
- Handled it very, very well.
- And wasn't in the room.
824
00:27:18,838 --> 00:27:20,137
- Exactly.
825
00:27:20,206 --> 00:27:22,840
- Tell him, like, "Hey, we're
gonna go check this out."
826
00:27:22,908 --> 00:27:25,876
[phone line trilling]
827
00:27:25,945 --> 00:27:27,478
- Hey, buddy.
828
00:27:27,546 --> 00:27:28,646
- How are you feeling?
829
00:27:31,083 --> 00:27:32,850
- A'ight, so look,
today has been a long day.
830
00:27:32,918 --> 00:27:34,818
You got a bad headache.
Your back is hurting.
831
00:27:34,887 --> 00:27:36,787
Why don't you just chill?
832
00:27:36,856 --> 00:27:38,489
Kamie and I are gonna go
833
00:27:38,557 --> 00:27:39,556
and just sort of scout it out
a little bit.
834
00:27:39,625 --> 00:27:40,758
- Mm-hmm.
835
00:27:40,826 --> 00:27:42,426
- And then,
once we have some more info,
836
00:27:42,495 --> 00:27:45,029
we'll check back in with you
in the morning.
837
00:27:46,432 --> 00:27:47,498
- All right,
we'll talk to you soon.
838
00:27:48,701 --> 00:27:50,567
- Bye.
- Well, that, unfortunately,
839
00:27:50,636 --> 00:27:52,136
works out.
- Ay, yi, yi.
840
00:27:53,539 --> 00:27:54,505
Oh, my God.
841
00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:55,773
- This is [bleep].
842
00:27:55,841 --> 00:27:57,307
This is really [bleep].
843
00:27:57,376 --> 00:27:58,609
I hope it's not him.
844
00:27:58,678 --> 00:28:01,011
I hope it's not him.
- I know, but at this point,
845
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,946
I feel like,
what are the chances?
846
00:28:03,015 --> 00:28:04,048
It's gotta be him.
847
00:28:04,116 --> 00:28:09,553
♪ ♪
848
00:28:09,622 --> 00:28:11,388
This--this is it.
849
00:28:11,457 --> 00:28:16,694
♪ ♪
850
00:28:16,762 --> 00:28:17,928
All right.
851
00:28:17,997 --> 00:28:19,063
Here goes nothing.
852
00:28:19,131 --> 00:28:20,798
- Oh, my God.
853
00:28:22,068 --> 00:28:23,067
- All right.
854
00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:27,204
- Go on, Nev.
It's all on you.
855
00:28:27,273 --> 00:28:28,405
I'm not going over there.
856
00:28:28,474 --> 00:28:31,575
[suspenseful music]
857
00:28:31,644 --> 00:28:35,979
♪ ♪
858
00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:37,481
- I saw someone in there.
859
00:28:37,550 --> 00:28:40,284
♪ ♪
860
00:28:40,352 --> 00:28:42,653
- Oh, there is
a side door over there.
861
00:28:42,722 --> 00:28:44,421
- How do you even get to it?
862
00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:46,123
[loud click]
- [gasps]
863
00:28:46,192 --> 00:28:47,157
- Oh, oh, someone's coming.
864
00:28:47,226 --> 00:28:48,258
Someone's coming.
865
00:28:50,863 --> 00:28:51,962
- Oh.
866
00:28:52,031 --> 00:28:53,664
- Hey, guys.
867
00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:56,066
- Oh, God.
- [laughs]
868
00:28:56,135 --> 00:28:57,501
Isaax,
bring your ass on outside.
869
00:28:57,570 --> 00:28:58,669
- Oh, my God.
870
00:28:58,738 --> 00:28:59,903
- Come on.
871
00:28:59,972 --> 00:29:01,905
- You got--you got your runway.
872
00:29:01,974 --> 00:29:02,906
- Yeah.
- Here it is.
873
00:29:02,975 --> 00:29:04,308
Give us the show, Isaax.
874
00:29:04,376 --> 00:29:07,111
- Mm-hmm, careful, steady.
875
00:29:07,179 --> 00:29:08,445
What's the look?
876
00:29:08,514 --> 00:29:09,446
What's it giving?
877
00:29:09,515 --> 00:29:10,647
- It's giving wedding.
878
00:29:10,716 --> 00:29:13,150
- To?
- To Jacob.
879
00:29:13,219 --> 00:29:14,551
- Looks more like a funeral.
880
00:29:15,721 --> 00:29:17,287
- Well, thankfully,
he didn't come,
881
00:29:17,356 --> 00:29:18,789
because I don't think
that he needs to be a part
882
00:29:18,858 --> 00:29:20,858
of your circus.
883
00:29:20,926 --> 00:29:22,025
- Well, that's unfortunate,
884
00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:24,261
'cause I feel like
that we could definitely
885
00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:25,295
work something out.
886
00:29:25,364 --> 00:29:26,830
- There's no [bleep] way!
887
00:29:26,899 --> 00:29:28,599
- In your eyes,
but in my eyes...
888
00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:30,434
- Isaax, has he ever given you
889
00:29:30,503 --> 00:29:33,003
any indication that
he would be interested in men?
890
00:29:33,072 --> 00:29:34,972
- No, but that'd be
a question I'd have to ask,
891
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,807
'cause we never--
it never got to that.
892
00:29:36,876 --> 00:29:38,142
- So you talked to him
for nine months,
893
00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:39,510
and you didn't figure that out?
- No.
894
00:29:39,578 --> 00:29:42,446
- Then maybe you should start
dating as yourself
895
00:29:42,515 --> 00:29:44,248
and stop playing these games.
896
00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:45,649
- In your eyes, it's probably
897
00:29:45,718 --> 00:29:47,284
gonna be, like, a game,
but it's not a game to me.
898
00:29:47,353 --> 00:29:49,319
I really do care about him.
899
00:29:49,388 --> 00:29:52,055
- But Jacob's--even--
even if Jacob were gay,
900
00:29:52,124 --> 00:29:53,323
he's 18.
901
00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:54,358
You're, like, 40.
902
00:29:54,426 --> 00:29:57,361
- Uh-huh.
- He's too young for you.
903
00:29:57,429 --> 00:30:00,564
You should be dating men--
men.
904
00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:02,399
- Says who?
- It's just weird.
905
00:30:02,468 --> 00:30:03,801
It's inappropriate.
906
00:30:03,869 --> 00:30:05,602
- But it's not even just
his age that's inappropriate.
907
00:30:07,606 --> 00:30:09,072
Everything that you've been
We talked about this already.
908
00:30:09,141 --> 00:30:11,341
- This is how I am though,
and I know that people
909
00:30:11,410 --> 00:30:14,311
are not gonna, you know,
accept certain things,
910
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:15,846
but they can always walk away.
911
00:30:15,915 --> 00:30:17,648
They have the option
right after that.
912
00:30:17,716 --> 00:30:19,216
- But they don't have
the option for the nine months
913
00:30:19,285 --> 00:30:20,617
that they've been
talking to you.
914
00:30:20,686 --> 00:30:23,120
It's not cool to constantly
915
00:30:23,189 --> 00:30:24,888
be setting traps for people
916
00:30:24,957 --> 00:30:27,491
despite
the clear identification
917
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,027
that people make
for their own sexuality.
918
00:30:30,095 --> 00:30:32,563
You choose to trick them
into these relationships
919
00:30:32,631 --> 00:30:34,097
and then be like,
"Hey, it's actually been me
920
00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:35,632
the whole time."
- You guys don't see the--
921
00:30:35,701 --> 00:30:38,969
you don't see what's behind
the eyes of, like, the catfish.
922
00:30:39,038 --> 00:30:40,437
We go through a lot of pain,
923
00:30:40,506 --> 00:30:42,639
and we express ourselves
in different ways.
924
00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:44,341
- I totally feel you on that,
925
00:30:44,410 --> 00:30:45,742
but I'm gonna tell you
right now.
926
00:30:45,811 --> 00:30:47,244
Nobody gives a [bleep]
about your pain
927
00:30:47,313 --> 00:30:48,645
when you come like this,
928
00:30:48,714 --> 00:30:50,147
with the theatrics--
- Kay, that's--
929
00:30:50,216 --> 00:30:51,782
that sounds great,
but I was talking to Nev.
930
00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:53,717
- And--right.
- Well, look--
931
00:30:53,786 --> 00:30:55,118
- I'm talking to you now.
932
00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,187
So what I'm saying--
- Well, I was talking to Nev.
933
00:30:57,256 --> 00:30:58,622
- What I'm saying still stands.
934
00:30:58,691 --> 00:30:59,957
You're lucky that you're
talking on the show at all--
935
00:31:00,025 --> 00:31:01,225
again.
936
00:31:01,293 --> 00:31:03,427
The problem is that
I think you're a clown,
937
00:31:03,495 --> 00:31:05,896
and I think that your behavior
is clown behavior,
938
00:31:05,965 --> 00:31:07,965
and you are hurting
a lot of people.
939
00:31:08,033 --> 00:31:10,234
Does Jacob deserve that?
940
00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:11,702
Jacob's been
[bleep] up all day,
941
00:31:11,770 --> 00:31:13,070
and not once
did you ask about him.
942
00:31:13,138 --> 00:31:14,204
So do you actually care
about him?
943
00:31:14,273 --> 00:31:15,606
- I do care about him.
944
00:31:15,674 --> 00:31:19,243
- No, this doesn't feel
like the type of introduction
945
00:31:19,311 --> 00:31:22,746
someone who knew Jacob
and cared about him
946
00:31:22,815 --> 00:31:25,148
and was hoping
to make their case
947
00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:26,416
and just say, "Hey, look,
948
00:31:26,485 --> 00:31:28,318
"I know I lied to you,
949
00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:31,054
but I'm actually a really sweet
person who cares about you."
950
00:31:31,123 --> 00:31:32,990
Like, this, to me, says, like,
951
00:31:33,058 --> 00:31:35,259
"It's my show.
This is on TV.
952
00:31:35,327 --> 00:31:36,460
"This is my spotlight.
953
00:31:36,528 --> 00:31:37,895
"I don't give
a [bleep] about you.
954
00:31:37,963 --> 00:31:39,196
I'm just here--"
- Not true.
955
00:31:39,265 --> 00:31:40,998
- Well, I'm just saying--
- That's what it's giving.
956
00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:42,699
- That's what it's giving.
957
00:31:42,768 --> 00:31:45,235
Let me ask you a question.
958
00:31:45,304 --> 00:31:47,371
Is he the only guy
that you talk to?
959
00:31:47,439 --> 00:31:49,640
[dramatic music]
960
00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:51,208
- No.
- Exactly.
961
00:31:51,277 --> 00:31:53,911
- Exactly.
Look, if we had brought Jacob,
962
00:31:53,979 --> 00:31:56,380
already emotionally
sort of torn up,
963
00:31:56,448 --> 00:31:57,981
and you'd walked out
in this look,
964
00:31:58,050 --> 00:32:00,817
I don't think
he would've reacted well.
965
00:32:00,886 --> 00:32:04,354
He's in a very
tough moment of his life.
966
00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:06,823
Based on the reaction
he had to just finding out
967
00:32:06,892 --> 00:32:08,892
that Stephanie wasn't
the girl in the pictures,
968
00:32:08,961 --> 00:32:10,761
he was more upset
than I think I've ever seen
969
00:32:10,829 --> 00:32:11,895
anyone on the show,
970
00:32:11,964 --> 00:32:13,864
and that's partly
compounded by the fact
971
00:32:13,933 --> 00:32:15,632
that his life
has been a disaster,
972
00:32:15,701 --> 00:32:17,067
and now he's gonna find out
973
00:32:17,136 --> 00:32:19,002
that the girl that might have
974
00:32:19,071 --> 00:32:21,204
been some sort
of hopeful future for him
975
00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:24,207
not only lied to him,
but is you.
976
00:32:24,276 --> 00:32:25,475
- You know,
977
00:32:25,544 --> 00:32:26,877
I really do wanna talk to him,
978
00:32:26,946 --> 00:32:28,545
and I really do wanna see him.
I do care about him,
979
00:32:28,614 --> 00:32:30,380
even though
others don't think so.
980
00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:32,349
- All right, well, anyway,
let us talk to Jacob.
981
00:32:32,418 --> 00:32:33,884
I don't want you
to get too cold,
982
00:32:33,953 --> 00:32:35,852
'cause if I'm cold,
you must be cold.
983
00:32:35,921 --> 00:32:37,654
- You look good though, Kamie.
- Thank you.
984
00:32:37,723 --> 00:32:39,489
You look gorgeous,
and I wish that you would
985
00:32:39,558 --> 00:32:41,191
do this all the time--as you.
- We love it.
986
00:32:41,260 --> 00:32:42,526
- I know, but I--
- But I'm not [bleep]
987
00:32:42,594 --> 00:32:44,661
with that other [bleep].
- You're a beautiful girl...
988
00:32:44,730 --> 00:32:45,696
- Thank you, Isaax.
989
00:32:45,764 --> 00:32:46,897
- You just have an ugly soul.
990
00:32:46,966 --> 00:32:48,799
[sharp dramatic tone]
991
00:32:48,867 --> 00:32:50,133
- Let's go back to LA.
992
00:32:50,202 --> 00:32:51,768
- Bye-bye,
you guys have a good one.
993
00:32:51,837 --> 00:32:54,104
- Don't trip, baby.
Walk slow.
994
00:32:54,173 --> 00:32:56,974
This mother[bleep] is crazy!
995
00:32:57,042 --> 00:32:59,710
♪ ♪
996
00:32:59,778 --> 00:33:01,545
- He's talking to lots of guys.
997
00:33:01,613 --> 00:33:03,080
- He doesn't give
a [bleep] about Jacob.
998
00:33:03,148 --> 00:33:05,048
- It's not even like Jacob
is actually someone
999
00:33:05,117 --> 00:33:08,051
that he genuinely cares about.
1000
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,221
- Jacob is not
going to go for this.
1001
00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:13,757
- I don't think he needs
to have Isaax try to, like,
1002
00:33:13,826 --> 00:33:15,559
sprinkle his fairy dust on him.
- No.
1003
00:33:15,627 --> 00:33:17,527
- And--right--tell him
that I love you.
1004
00:33:17,596 --> 00:33:20,030
- Jesus.
We can't bring Jacob to that.
1005
00:33:20,099 --> 00:33:21,965
This isn't gonna end well.
- Right.
1006
00:33:24,503 --> 00:33:26,103
- What are we gonna do
about Jacob?
1007
00:33:26,171 --> 00:33:28,238
Because he obviously wants
to know what's going on.
1008
00:33:28,307 --> 00:33:30,440
- Yeah, I mean, I'm glad
he didn't come with us.
1009
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,242
That would not have been
a good situation.
1010
00:33:32,311 --> 00:33:33,810
- Even if
we met Isaax last night,
1011
00:33:33,879 --> 00:33:36,413
and he had come out and been
like, "I feel terrible.
1012
00:33:36,482 --> 00:33:37,614
"I can't believe
I did this again.
1013
00:33:37,683 --> 00:33:38,882
"I can't stop,
I have a problem.
1014
00:33:38,951 --> 00:33:40,951
I'm so sorry--"
he didn't say any of that.
1015
00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:43,086
He came out like,
"Hey, here I am.
1016
00:33:43,155 --> 00:33:44,588
I'm ready
to get married to Jacob."
1017
00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:46,890
- There's no humility.
There's no remorse.
1018
00:33:46,959 --> 00:33:48,825
He has--he has none of that.
- Right,
1019
00:33:48,894 --> 00:33:51,862
and Jacob, you know,
he doesn't need any more drama.
1020
00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:54,264
He's a wreck. So look,
1021
00:33:54,333 --> 00:33:55,832
we have a clip from last night
1022
00:33:55,901 --> 00:33:58,001
that we can show him
so he can see who he is
1023
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:59,436
and hear a little bit
from Isaax.
1024
00:33:59,505 --> 00:34:00,771
- Mm-hmm.
- Hopefully, you know,
1025
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:02,506
it's enough for him to move on.
1026
00:34:02,574 --> 00:34:03,774
So I guess we should
bring him down.
1027
00:34:03,842 --> 00:34:05,642
- I'm nervous.
1028
00:34:05,711 --> 00:34:06,843
[phone line trilling]
1029
00:34:08,614 --> 00:34:09,880
- You sound good.
1030
00:34:10,716 --> 00:34:13,283
- We have, uh, some things
to talk about,
1031
00:34:13,352 --> 00:34:14,351
so why don't you head on down?
1032
00:34:15,421 --> 00:34:16,486
- All right.
1033
00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:19,556
- He just recovered,
and now this.
1034
00:34:19,625 --> 00:34:21,091
- [sighs]
[knock at door]
1035
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,192
Here he is.
1036
00:34:23,729 --> 00:34:25,028
- Hey.
- Hello.
1037
00:34:25,097 --> 00:34:26,963
- Good to see you.
1038
00:34:27,032 --> 00:34:28,532
Welcome.
1039
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,067
- We wanted to give you
a little update.
1040
00:34:30,135 --> 00:34:33,036
So last night,
1041
00:34:33,105 --> 00:34:35,739
we decided we were gonna go
1042
00:34:35,808 --> 00:34:37,874
meet up with Stephanie,
just like I said--
1043
00:34:37,943 --> 00:34:38,909
to scout things out,
see what was up.
1044
00:34:38,977 --> 00:34:41,211
As we were leaving the hotel,
1045
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,581
a girl who was coming into work
noticed us,
1046
00:34:44,650 --> 00:34:46,083
said,
"Hey, oh, my God, 'Catfish,'"
1047
00:34:46,151 --> 00:34:47,150
and, you know,
I just thought like,
1048
00:34:47,219 --> 00:34:48,251
"Okay, it's a fan of the show,"
1049
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,320
and then she asked us,
1050
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:53,190
"Oh, does this have anything
to do with that last episode
1051
00:34:53,258 --> 00:34:55,492
that took place
from this area?"
1052
00:34:55,561 --> 00:34:56,593
We were like, "No, no, no,
1053
00:34:56,662 --> 00:34:57,928
we're here filming
a new episode."
1054
00:34:57,996 --> 00:34:59,196
But then we thought,
1055
00:34:59,264 --> 00:35:01,498
"Wait a second,
we did do an episode,"
1056
00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:03,967
like, over a year ago
when we were still virtual,
1057
00:35:04,036 --> 00:35:08,738
where a young guy was talking
to a girl named Stephanie
1058
00:35:08,807 --> 00:35:11,241
from this part of Washington
1059
00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:14,211
who had catfished him,
1060
00:35:14,279 --> 00:35:18,949
and it occurred to us that
this could be the same catfish.
1061
00:35:19,017 --> 00:35:21,685
We didn't know for sure.
1062
00:35:21,753 --> 00:35:24,054
But when we went over
to "Stephanie's" house,
1063
00:35:24,123 --> 00:35:26,022
we discovered that it was,
in fact,
1064
00:35:26,091 --> 00:35:29,526
the same person who had
catfished this guy, Bryn,
1065
00:35:29,595 --> 00:35:33,630
and based on how upset,
rightfully, you are,
1066
00:35:33,699 --> 00:35:36,199
like, that you're dealing
with your own
1067
00:35:36,268 --> 00:35:38,268
emotional pain--
- We didn't feel like
1068
00:35:38,337 --> 00:35:41,271
it was appropriate, after
everything you've been through,
1069
00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:44,474
for this person
to even be in your presence.
1070
00:35:44,543 --> 00:35:45,942
- We don't think
1071
00:35:46,011 --> 00:35:48,445
there's any reason for you
to talk to them,
1072
00:35:48,514 --> 00:35:50,280
but we could show you a video,
1073
00:35:50,349 --> 00:35:51,748
so that you know, at least,
1074
00:35:51,817 --> 00:35:52,916
who you were talking to.
1075
00:35:52,985 --> 00:35:54,551
- The catfish is, like, who?
1076
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:55,752
- Well, I can show you.
- It's a guy or a girl?
1077
00:35:55,821 --> 00:35:57,420
- Why don't I just show you?
- Okay.
1078
00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:59,656
[dramatic music]
1079
00:35:59,725 --> 00:36:00,757
- Ready?
1080
00:36:06,899 --> 00:36:08,198
- You're [bleep] kidding.
1081
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:19,242
- This is Isaax.
1082
00:36:19,311 --> 00:36:20,777
He's 41.
1083
00:36:20,846 --> 00:36:21,945
He's gay,
1084
00:36:22,014 --> 00:36:23,046
and...
1085
00:36:23,115 --> 00:36:25,115
- He's a clown.
- He likes talking
1086
00:36:25,184 --> 00:36:30,720
to straight young men
in the hopes that they might
1087
00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:33,456
be curious and eventually learn
1088
00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:34,824
that it's him
they're talking to
1089
00:36:34,893 --> 00:36:37,394
and choose to pursue
a relationship with him.
1090
00:36:39,865 --> 00:36:41,765
- Damn. [sighs]
1091
00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:43,266
What the [bleep] is he wearing?
1092
00:36:43,335 --> 00:36:45,001
- Well, the first thing
he said when he came out
1093
00:36:45,070 --> 00:36:47,837
was that this was
his wedding outfit.
1094
00:36:47,906 --> 00:36:50,774
He was looking forward
to marrying you.
1095
00:36:50,842 --> 00:36:52,676
But he's a clown.
- He's a clown.
1096
00:36:52,744 --> 00:36:55,979
- I mean, he's--he's--
he's a theatrical disaster.
1097
00:36:56,048 --> 00:36:57,180
He did think
he was gonna be meeting you.
1098
00:36:57,249 --> 00:36:58,682
We didn't tell him
you weren't coming.
1099
00:36:58,750 --> 00:37:00,984
So I think he thought
he would--he would come on TV,
1100
00:37:01,053 --> 00:37:03,520
show up in this
sort of peacocky outfit,
1101
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:04,921
you would magically find him
1102
00:37:04,990 --> 00:37:07,524
attractive and choose to engage
1103
00:37:07,593 --> 00:37:10,327
with him in some sort
of relationship.
1104
00:37:12,197 --> 00:37:13,964
- I'd like to have
a word with him.
1105
00:37:14,032 --> 00:37:16,566
But I feel like
I can get through to him
1106
00:37:16,635 --> 00:37:18,501
that this is not okay.
1107
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:20,670
- Well, we tried last night.
1108
00:37:20,739 --> 00:37:22,072
- But you guys tried
with words.
1109
00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:23,440
I'm not talking about
with words.
1110
00:37:23,508 --> 00:37:25,675
- Right, we don't think
that's a good idea for you.
1111
00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:29,879
- He's not a person who listens
or cares.
1112
00:37:29,948 --> 00:37:31,214
- He's just gonna keep doing
that [bleep].
1113
00:37:31,283 --> 00:37:32,716
I just think he's gonna hurt
so many people,
1114
00:37:32,784 --> 00:37:34,718
so I mean, I might as well
just hurt him.
1115
00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:37,220
- But hurting him
just hurts you.
1116
00:37:37,289 --> 00:37:39,122
- It hurts you
more than it hurts him.
1117
00:37:40,525 --> 00:37:42,392
- And I can't,
in good conscience,
1118
00:37:42,461 --> 00:37:43,593
put you in a situation
1119
00:37:43,662 --> 00:37:45,895
that could end up
1120
00:37:45,964 --> 00:37:48,164
with someone
getting hurt physically.
1121
00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:49,766
It's just not worth it.
1122
00:37:49,835 --> 00:37:51,901
- Understandable.
1123
00:37:51,970 --> 00:37:53,536
- Isaax way more years
1124
00:37:53,605 --> 00:37:55,238
behind him
than he has ahead of him,
1125
00:37:55,307 --> 00:37:57,907
and you have way more
amazing years ahead of you,
1126
00:37:57,976 --> 00:38:00,210
and we don't want for you
to jeopardize that
1127
00:38:00,279 --> 00:38:02,912
over his dumb ass.
1128
00:38:04,583 --> 00:38:06,816
- If you want
for your own peace of mind
1129
00:38:06,885 --> 00:38:07,851
to know that you've said
1130
00:38:07,919 --> 00:38:08,885
whatever you need
to say to him,
1131
00:38:08,954 --> 00:38:10,754
we can call him.
- Yeah.
1132
00:38:10,822 --> 00:38:12,922
I really would like to talk.
1133
00:38:12,991 --> 00:38:15,392
- All right.
I'm calling Isaax.
1134
00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:18,528
[phone line trilling]
1135
00:38:18,597 --> 00:38:19,596
[static droning]
1136
00:38:19,665 --> 00:38:21,097
Hello?
1137
00:38:21,166 --> 00:38:23,366
- Hey, Isaax.
[static droning]
1138
00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:25,268
Are you driving?
1139
00:38:27,673 --> 00:38:29,472
Oh, that's better.
1140
00:38:32,444 --> 00:38:33,543
Okay.
1141
00:38:33,612 --> 00:38:34,511
What's up, man?
1142
00:38:34,579 --> 00:38:35,879
- What's your problem?
1143
00:38:35,947 --> 00:38:37,280
- This is Jacob.
- Yo.
1144
00:38:42,087 --> 00:38:45,388
- Unfortunately, we--we--
we are not in a position
1145
00:38:45,457 --> 00:38:49,259
that, um, allows us to have
1146
00:38:49,328 --> 00:38:50,894
a conversation
face-to-face with you.
1147
00:38:50,962 --> 00:38:52,629
For everybody's safety,
1148
00:38:52,698 --> 00:38:54,130
we think it's probably best
that we don't.
1149
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:56,066
So if there's anything
you do wanna say to him,
1150
00:38:56,134 --> 00:38:57,133
this might be your best
1151
00:38:57,202 --> 00:38:59,035
and last chance to do that.
1152
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,740
- So basic--what it comes down
1153
00:39:03,809 --> 00:39:05,475
to is you're not
gonna be meeting Jacob.
1154
00:39:05,544 --> 00:39:07,877
- But we want to, at least,
give you the chance
1155
00:39:07,946 --> 00:39:11,648
to say something yourself now
1156
00:39:11,717 --> 00:39:16,152
without us, um, interpreting
or saying it for you.
1157
00:39:20,826 --> 00:39:22,058
- It's not--it's not happening.
1158
00:39:22,127 --> 00:39:23,727
- The answer is no.
1159
00:39:23,795 --> 00:39:25,228
- For everyone's sake.
1160
00:39:28,433 --> 00:39:31,801
- Okay, well, you could've said
something in--by--already
1161
00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:33,670
if you wanted to.
- If you have something
1162
00:39:33,739 --> 00:39:35,572
that you want to say to him,
1163
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,041
if you want
to apologize to him,
1164
00:39:38,110 --> 00:39:40,410
that only takes a few seconds.
1165
00:39:42,614 --> 00:39:44,214
- [bleep] you and your apology.
1166
00:39:44,282 --> 00:39:45,415
You're a goofy [bleep].
1167
00:39:47,819 --> 00:39:50,520
- You know, this--this--this
is the last sort of chance
1168
00:39:50,589 --> 00:39:51,855
you'll have
if there's anything else that
1169
00:39:51,923 --> 00:39:53,223
you feel like you need to say.
1170
00:39:54,526 --> 00:39:55,725
- All right, well--oh.
[line beeping]
1171
00:39:55,794 --> 00:39:57,060
He hung up.
1172
00:39:57,129 --> 00:39:58,828
- Tell him, "I don't want
to talk to you, bitch.
1173
00:39:58,897 --> 00:40:00,330
Bye."
1174
00:40:00,399 --> 00:40:02,298
He's annoyed that he doesn't
get to come back on the show.
1175
00:40:02,367 --> 00:40:03,700
- I know.
- He just wanted to have
1176
00:40:03,769 --> 00:40:05,135
another moment on the camera.
1177
00:40:05,203 --> 00:40:06,803
That's all he cares about.
- Okay, well, I'm glad
1178
00:40:06,872 --> 00:40:08,571
that you, at least,
got to tell him
1179
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,940
that he is [bleep] up,
1180
00:40:11,009 --> 00:40:12,308
'cause that's true.
1181
00:40:12,377 --> 00:40:15,078
The sooner you can put
Isaax out of your mind,
1182
00:40:15,147 --> 00:40:16,746
the better off you'll be.
1183
00:40:16,815 --> 00:40:18,515
- You will laugh about it
one day.
1184
00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:19,916
- [sighs]
1185
00:40:19,985 --> 00:40:20,984
- We get it.
1186
00:40:21,052 --> 00:40:22,018
We [bleep] get it.
1187
00:40:22,087 --> 00:40:23,186
Trust me.
1188
00:40:23,255 --> 00:40:24,554
- You know,
a lot of my time is not
1189
00:40:24,623 --> 00:40:26,222
gonna be wasted anymore,
you know what I'm saying?
1190
00:40:26,291 --> 00:40:28,725
I just feel like
a lot more pressure's gone,
1191
00:40:28,794 --> 00:40:30,994
and at least I know
that I'm not talking
1192
00:40:31,062 --> 00:40:33,029
to a [bleep] clown anymore.
1193
00:40:33,098 --> 00:40:34,130
- Yeah.
1194
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:35,965
- So crazy.
1195
00:40:36,034 --> 00:40:39,903
- And now, if you do put
yourself back out there
1196
00:40:39,971 --> 00:40:41,438
and you do start dating, like,
1197
00:40:41,506 --> 00:40:43,306
you know how much
you've been through
1198
00:40:43,375 --> 00:40:44,641
and how much you've overcome.
1199
00:40:44,709 --> 00:40:46,543
What I want for you
is the women
1200
00:40:46,611 --> 00:40:48,411
that you do try to pursue--
1201
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,013
'cause there'll be
plenty of girls
1202
00:40:50,081 --> 00:40:52,549
coming your way--
I want you to only focus
1203
00:40:52,617 --> 00:40:55,051
on the ones
that actually show up for you,
1204
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,720
and I know the women in your
life have not shown you that,
1205
00:40:57,789 --> 00:41:00,156
but the right girl
is out there for you,
1206
00:41:00,225 --> 00:41:01,825
and you will find her.
1207
00:41:01,893 --> 00:41:02,959
- All right.
- So glad I have
1208
00:41:03,028 --> 00:41:04,461
a therapy appointment tomorrow.
1209
00:41:04,529 --> 00:41:05,895
There's no way
she's gonna believe this.
1210
00:41:05,964 --> 00:41:07,931
[laughs]
1211
00:41:07,999 --> 00:41:10,600
- Okay, I'd like to stop
thinking about Isaax.
1212
00:41:10,669 --> 00:41:11,868
- Should we jump on the bed?
1213
00:41:11,937 --> 00:41:13,203
- Just like...
- I feel like it'd be fun.
1214
00:41:13,271 --> 00:41:14,471
- That'd be so fun.
- Yeah.
1215
00:41:14,539 --> 00:41:15,872
- Sure.
- Let's do it.
1216
00:41:15,941 --> 00:41:16,940
- I'm a little too old
for that.
1217
00:41:17,008 --> 00:41:18,308
- Come on!
- That looks so fun.
1218
00:41:18,376 --> 00:41:19,909
Whoo!
1219
00:41:19,978 --> 00:41:21,444
- Whee!
1220
00:41:21,513 --> 00:41:23,079
Come on, Nev!
1221
00:41:23,148 --> 00:41:24,247
[head thuds]
all: Oh!
1222
00:41:24,316 --> 00:41:27,350
[laughter]
1223
00:41:28,487 --> 00:41:29,519
- Wow.
1224
00:41:29,588 --> 00:41:31,087
- I'm never doing that again.
1225
00:41:31,156 --> 00:41:34,090
[rock music]
1226
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:41,197
♪ ♪
1227
00:41:51,243 --> 00:41:52,442
- With Carmella, maybe
within, like, five minutes,
1228
00:41:52,511 --> 00:41:53,743
I felt, like,
an instant connection.
1229
00:41:53,812 --> 00:41:55,178
- What is this big lie
1230
00:41:55,247 --> 00:41:57,814
that she's so afraid
to tell him?
1231
00:41:57,883 --> 00:41:59,148
both: Oh.
- Wow.
1232
00:41:59,217 --> 00:42:00,717
She just sent a picture of her.
1233
00:42:00,785 --> 00:42:01,951
"Nev and Kamie,
I am real."
1234
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:02,986
- Oh, my God!
1235
00:42:03,054 --> 00:42:04,888
[doorbell rings]
1236
00:42:04,956 --> 00:42:06,489
Oh.
1237
00:42:06,558 --> 00:42:08,324
- Hi.
- Hello.