1 00:00:02,002 --> 00:00:04,137 - ♪♪ MTV ♪♪ 2 00:00:04,204 --> 00:00:05,873 - Tyreek is my best friend 3 00:00:05,940 --> 00:00:08,375 and person I'm in love with all, like, at once. 4 00:00:08,442 --> 00:00:10,411 - That's serious. - Yeah. 5 00:00:10,477 --> 00:00:12,779 - Wait a second. Whoa! 6 00:00:12,846 --> 00:00:13,914 Look at that. 7 00:00:13,981 --> 00:00:15,882 - Lying about who you actually are-- 8 00:00:15,949 --> 00:00:17,985 that's just completely messed up. 9 00:00:18,052 --> 00:00:19,987 [knocking at door] 10 00:00:20,054 --> 00:00:21,087 [door creaks open] 11 00:00:21,154 --> 00:00:22,589 - Hello. 12 00:00:22,656 --> 00:00:24,258 - Who's in the house? - Who's in the house? 13 00:00:24,324 --> 00:00:26,293 - Anybody here? 14 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,428 [dramatic musical sting] 15 00:00:29,463 --> 00:00:30,864 Why is it smoky in here? 16 00:00:30,931 --> 00:00:32,399 [knocking at door] 17 00:00:32,466 --> 00:00:34,768 Oh, Jesus. [laughs] 18 00:00:34,835 --> 00:00:36,236 Oh! 19 00:00:36,303 --> 00:00:37,838 Oh, my God. 20 00:00:37,905 --> 00:00:39,440 [eerie music] 21 00:00:39,507 --> 00:00:41,909 It's not Halloween. What's going on? 22 00:00:41,975 --> 00:00:43,009 Hello? 23 00:00:43,076 --> 00:00:44,345 - Enter. 24 00:00:44,411 --> 00:00:45,779 - [gasps] 25 00:00:45,846 --> 00:00:47,381 - Oh, my God. 26 00:00:47,447 --> 00:00:49,583 - Nev Schulman, 27 00:00:49,650 --> 00:00:54,454 welcome to the death of your 30s! 28 00:00:54,521 --> 00:00:55,489 - What? I'm not-- 29 00:00:55,556 --> 00:00:56,523 - You're almost 40. 30 00:00:56,590 --> 00:00:58,125 That's basically 40. 31 00:00:58,191 --> 00:00:59,693 Happy birthday! 32 00:00:59,759 --> 00:01:00,895 - Wow. 33 00:01:00,961 --> 00:01:02,663 I didn't realize we were doing birthday. 34 00:01:02,730 --> 00:01:04,031 - What do you mean, you didn't realize 35 00:01:04,098 --> 00:01:05,432 we were doing birthday? 36 00:01:05,499 --> 00:01:08,202 all: [dissonant] ♪♪ Happy ♪♪ - Oh, my God. 37 00:01:08,268 --> 00:01:14,942 all: ♪♪ Birthday to you ♪♪ 38 00:01:15,008 --> 00:01:16,243 - I don't understand. 39 00:01:16,310 --> 00:01:17,444 Hold on a second. 40 00:01:17,511 --> 00:01:19,413 I don't know if this is a joke 41 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,014 or if someone's just misinformed. 42 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:22,550 I am 39. 43 00:01:22,616 --> 00:01:24,751 - Yeah, you're basically 40. 44 00:01:24,818 --> 00:01:26,119 [laughter] 45 00:01:26,186 --> 00:01:27,554 Duh. 46 00:01:27,621 --> 00:01:29,022 Are you gonna make a wish or not? 47 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:30,457 - Make a wish. 48 00:01:30,524 --> 00:01:33,093 Well, I already have everything I could ever want-- 49 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,195 - You see. 50 00:01:34,261 --> 00:01:35,695 - In a co-host. 51 00:01:38,064 --> 00:01:39,566 - Yay! 52 00:01:39,633 --> 00:01:41,568 [scattered applause] 53 00:01:41,635 --> 00:01:43,404 - You're still here. - Still here. 54 00:01:43,470 --> 00:01:44,905 - I can't believe it. 55 00:01:44,972 --> 00:01:49,843 We should open this new chapter of our lives together. 56 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:51,211 - Okay. 57 00:01:51,278 --> 00:01:52,546 - ♪♪ Ah ♪♪ 58 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:53,947 - Okay, we got an email here. 59 00:01:54,014 --> 00:01:56,583 "Dear Nev and Kamie, my name is Kay." 60 00:01:56,650 --> 00:02:00,287 - ♪♪ I need something closer to you ♪♪ 61 00:02:00,354 --> 00:02:05,059 - "I'm 19, and I live in Fitchburg, Massachusetts. 62 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:09,329 For two years, I've been in love with a guy named Tyreek." 63 00:02:09,396 --> 00:02:11,398 - ♪♪ Can't stop me ♪♪ 64 00:02:11,465 --> 00:02:14,167 - "He's 18, and he's adorable. 65 00:02:14,234 --> 00:02:16,670 "He lives in New York City. 66 00:02:16,737 --> 00:02:19,172 "He's nerdy like me, and I love that. 67 00:02:19,239 --> 00:02:22,742 "We met on an app for finding friends. 68 00:02:22,809 --> 00:02:25,412 "I loved talking to him, and pretty soon, 69 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:27,314 we became a thing-- exclusive even." 70 00:02:27,381 --> 00:02:28,982 - ♪♪ And I'm at the point now where ♪♪ 71 00:02:29,049 --> 00:02:31,785 ♪♪ I can't get you out of my mind ♪♪ 72 00:02:31,852 --> 00:02:34,922 "When we first met, I was in a really bad place 73 00:02:34,988 --> 00:02:38,458 "in foster care, and every day felt like hell. 74 00:02:38,525 --> 00:02:40,727 "Tyreek was my rock through that, 75 00:02:40,794 --> 00:02:43,763 and I've never felt closer to anyone." 76 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:45,966 - ♪♪ I just want to make you happy ♪♪ 77 00:02:46,032 --> 00:02:48,435 ♪♪ I'm just tryna be happy ♪♪ 78 00:02:48,501 --> 00:02:51,705 - "We actually did try to meet recently. 79 00:02:51,772 --> 00:02:53,741 "I was going to be in New York, so we decided 80 00:02:53,807 --> 00:02:55,342 "to meet in Times Square. 81 00:02:55,408 --> 00:02:59,179 "Tyreek seemed equally excited, up until the moment 82 00:02:59,246 --> 00:03:01,915 we were supposed to meet when he stood me up." 83 00:03:01,982 --> 00:03:04,584 - ♪♪ I've been here just trying to keep my cool ♪♪ 84 00:03:04,651 --> 00:03:06,453 - "Then out of the blue a couple of weeks ago, 85 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,456 "he called me and broke my heart. 86 00:03:09,523 --> 00:03:11,158 "I don't know what our status is, 87 00:03:11,224 --> 00:03:14,161 and I don't know if he will ever meet me." 88 00:03:14,227 --> 00:03:16,196 - ♪♪ All I need ♪♪ 89 00:03:16,263 --> 00:03:18,632 - "Please help, Kay." 90 00:03:18,698 --> 00:03:19,867 - I don't know about Tyreek. 91 00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:21,902 - I think we gotta call Kay. 92 00:03:21,969 --> 00:03:23,003 - Make the call. 93 00:03:23,070 --> 00:03:24,238 - Okay. Here we go. 94 00:03:24,304 --> 00:03:26,006 [line trilling] 95 00:03:27,508 --> 00:03:29,643 - Hello, Kay. It's Nev and Kamie. 96 00:03:29,710 --> 00:03:31,745 - What's up? 97 00:03:32,646 --> 00:03:34,214 - Hi. - Hi. 98 00:03:34,281 --> 00:03:35,448 - Surprise. 99 00:03:35,515 --> 00:03:37,651 - We just read your email. 100 00:03:37,717 --> 00:03:39,920 - What's your status with Tyreek right now? 101 00:03:41,121 --> 00:03:42,689 - Did he ever explain what happened 102 00:03:42,756 --> 00:03:44,791 when he didn't show up to meet you in Times Square? 103 00:03:46,893 --> 00:03:49,530 - Does it feel the same like it used to be 104 00:03:49,597 --> 00:03:52,499 when you guys first met and were talking? 105 00:03:55,536 --> 00:03:56,737 - Okay. - Well, look. 106 00:03:56,804 --> 00:03:58,772 I get that these calls can be awkward, 107 00:03:58,839 --> 00:04:00,641 but we want to hear your story. 108 00:04:00,707 --> 00:04:02,443 So we're gonna have to come to Fitchburg, 109 00:04:02,510 --> 00:04:04,144 get into this a little bit more, 110 00:04:04,211 --> 00:04:05,613 and figure this out. 111 00:04:05,679 --> 00:04:08,382 - Kay, we will see you soon. 112 00:04:08,448 --> 00:04:09,816 - So get ready. 113 00:04:12,186 --> 00:04:13,987 - All right, bye. 114 00:04:14,888 --> 00:04:17,191 - I'm worried she's too excited to meet us. 115 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:19,826 I'm a little afraid for how hyped she is. 116 00:04:19,893 --> 00:04:22,563 - Let's go to Fitchburg, baby. 117 00:04:22,630 --> 00:04:24,698 - Whee! - ♪♪ I'm making a move ♪♪ 118 00:04:24,765 --> 00:04:26,600 ♪♪ Get up, get out ♪♪ 119 00:04:26,666 --> 00:04:28,369 ♪♪ Mr. Sun is shining on me ♪♪ 120 00:04:28,436 --> 00:04:29,570 - Fitchburg, baby. 121 00:04:29,637 --> 00:04:31,238 - We made it to Massachusetts. 122 00:04:31,305 --> 00:04:33,073 Can't wait to see what Kay is actually like, 123 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:34,775 because she's hard to get a read on. 124 00:04:34,842 --> 00:04:36,376 - She's very chill. 125 00:04:36,443 --> 00:04:39,079 - I don't know if she's super shy or if it's the situation, 126 00:04:39,146 --> 00:04:40,747 but she doesn't give a lot on the phone. 127 00:04:40,814 --> 00:04:42,849 - ♪♪ I'm makin' a move ♪♪ 128 00:04:42,916 --> 00:04:46,086 ♪♪ Nah nah nah nah nah ♪♪ 129 00:04:46,153 --> 00:04:48,788 - This is it? Yeah, this is it. 130 00:04:51,525 --> 00:04:53,027 Oh. - Kay! 131 00:04:53,093 --> 00:04:54,395 - Kay! 132 00:04:54,461 --> 00:04:55,695 - Hey. Nice to meet you. 133 00:04:55,762 --> 00:04:56,696 - Nice to meet you. 134 00:04:56,763 --> 00:04:57,964 - Nice to meet you. 135 00:04:58,031 --> 00:04:58,965 I'm Kamie. 136 00:04:59,032 --> 00:05:00,301 How are you? - I'm good. 137 00:05:00,367 --> 00:05:01,501 How are you? - Good. 138 00:05:01,568 --> 00:05:02,569 - Come on in. 139 00:05:02,636 --> 00:05:05,005 [upbeat music] 140 00:05:05,072 --> 00:05:06,806 - Cozy. 141 00:05:06,873 --> 00:05:09,776 So tell us about yourself a little bit more. 142 00:05:09,843 --> 00:05:12,346 Were you born and raised here in Fitchburg? 143 00:05:12,412 --> 00:05:13,714 - I was born in Puerto Rico. 144 00:05:13,781 --> 00:05:14,948 - Oh, cool. 145 00:05:15,015 --> 00:05:16,116 - We never talk about Puerto Rico. 146 00:05:16,183 --> 00:05:17,418 - Wow, okay. 147 00:05:17,484 --> 00:05:18,885 So how long did you live there before you 148 00:05:18,952 --> 00:05:20,354 moved to the States? 149 00:05:20,421 --> 00:05:22,022 - I lived there till I was, like, about four 150 00:05:22,089 --> 00:05:23,690 when my father passed, and then-- 151 00:05:23,757 --> 00:05:25,526 - Sorry. - Moved over to Massachusetts. 152 00:05:25,593 --> 00:05:26,960 - Wow, okay. 153 00:05:27,027 --> 00:05:29,296 - Puerto Rico to Massachusetts must have been 154 00:05:29,362 --> 00:05:31,632 insane culture shock. 155 00:05:31,698 --> 00:05:34,134 - Yeah, starting school was pretty hard. 156 00:05:34,201 --> 00:05:36,803 - And then you mentioned that you were in foster care. 157 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:39,240 - Yeah, my mom passed away when I was 16. 158 00:05:39,306 --> 00:05:40,574 - Wow. 159 00:05:40,641 --> 00:05:42,376 - So I moved into the placement home, 160 00:05:42,443 --> 00:05:46,079 and, like, just living there was just very hard for me. 161 00:05:47,514 --> 00:05:49,717 Dealing with that and, like, starting school again 162 00:05:49,783 --> 00:05:51,651 in a whole different place. 163 00:05:51,718 --> 00:05:56,090 And a month or two into foster care is when I met Tyreek. 164 00:05:56,156 --> 00:05:58,225 And just, like, being able to, like, 165 00:05:58,291 --> 00:06:01,027 have someone to talk to every day would, like, 166 00:06:01,094 --> 00:06:03,897 make that so much better to deal with. 167 00:06:03,963 --> 00:06:05,632 Because then, like, I have something else 168 00:06:05,699 --> 00:06:07,468 to completely focus on. 169 00:06:07,535 --> 00:06:09,169 [somber music] 170 00:06:09,236 --> 00:06:13,340 And, like, he was just, like, my comfort zone 171 00:06:13,407 --> 00:06:15,342 and safe place from, like, 172 00:06:15,409 --> 00:06:18,111 being with all those people every day. 173 00:06:18,178 --> 00:06:19,647 I'm sorry. 174 00:06:19,714 --> 00:06:21,882 - No, it's okay. 175 00:06:21,949 --> 00:06:24,118 You've been through a lot. 176 00:06:24,184 --> 00:06:26,786 I'm so sorry that that happened to you. 177 00:06:26,853 --> 00:06:28,555 - Yeah. - So okay. 178 00:06:28,622 --> 00:06:31,225 So you--you've just entered into 179 00:06:31,291 --> 00:06:32,759 the foster care program at the time. 180 00:06:32,826 --> 00:06:33,828 - Yeah. 181 00:06:33,894 --> 00:06:35,462 - And you go on this app. 182 00:06:35,529 --> 00:06:36,763 What happens? 183 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:38,632 - It's like, I went into my message request, 184 00:06:38,699 --> 00:06:40,066 and it was his profile. 185 00:06:40,133 --> 00:06:41,735 And he was like, hey. 186 00:06:41,801 --> 00:06:43,904 And from there, the conversation went pretty good. 187 00:06:43,971 --> 00:06:45,606 It was like pretty constant conversation, 188 00:06:45,673 --> 00:06:48,008 like we could talk to each other and be open about stuff. 189 00:06:48,075 --> 00:06:50,043 And we found out, like, 190 00:06:50,110 --> 00:06:51,745 we had a bunch of stuff in common, 191 00:06:51,811 --> 00:06:54,181 like anime and, like, playing video games. 192 00:06:54,248 --> 00:06:56,050 - Did he have a picture? - Yes. 193 00:06:56,116 --> 00:06:57,517 The one picture of him was, like, 194 00:06:57,584 --> 00:07:00,053 him in a squid hat, which was completely funny 195 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,389 'cause it had, like, the little tentacles hanging down. 196 00:07:02,456 --> 00:07:05,058 - What'd you think of him when you saw his picture? 197 00:07:05,125 --> 00:07:06,393 - I thought it was, like, funny, 198 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:08,795 but, like, he looked cute in the hat. 199 00:07:08,862 --> 00:07:10,864 - When did you first talk on the phone? 200 00:07:10,931 --> 00:07:14,000 - Probably a month or so, somewhere after. 201 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:15,869 We basically stayed on the phone almost all night. 202 00:07:15,936 --> 00:07:17,504 - Wow. So that must have been exciting. 203 00:07:17,571 --> 00:07:18,805 - Definitely. 204 00:07:18,872 --> 00:07:22,008 - How soon into you guys talking and texting 205 00:07:22,075 --> 00:07:24,178 and phone calls did it become romantic? 206 00:07:24,244 --> 00:07:26,413 - It started being more, like, actually flirty, 207 00:07:26,479 --> 00:07:27,714 like, after the phone call. 208 00:07:27,781 --> 00:07:30,216 It was, like, more of the "babe, bae." 209 00:07:30,283 --> 00:07:31,685 - And that was, like, in month two basically? 210 00:07:31,752 --> 00:07:33,120 - Yeah. 211 00:07:33,187 --> 00:07:34,988 - So pretty much for the entire last two years-- 212 00:07:35,055 --> 00:07:37,691 - Yes. - You've been in an-- 213 00:07:37,757 --> 00:07:39,192 - An exclusive relationship. 214 00:07:39,259 --> 00:07:40,827 - Pretty serious relationship with Tyreek. 215 00:07:40,894 --> 00:07:42,762 - He told you he's from New York City. 216 00:07:42,829 --> 00:07:44,498 - Yeah. - Did he say where in New York? 217 00:07:44,564 --> 00:07:45,632 - Yeah, tell us about what-- 218 00:07:45,699 --> 00:07:47,000 yeah, what do you know about him? 219 00:07:47,067 --> 00:07:48,668 - Last I've known, he was, like, in Manhattan. 220 00:07:48,735 --> 00:07:50,237 And he goes to school for engineering. 221 00:07:50,304 --> 00:07:51,705 - Oh, okay, cool. 222 00:07:51,772 --> 00:07:53,240 Do you know where he goes to school? 223 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:54,341 - No. 224 00:07:54,407 --> 00:07:56,409 - And how do you feel about Tyreek? 225 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:58,379 - He's like my best friend 226 00:07:58,446 --> 00:08:01,815 and person I'm in love with all, like, at once, 227 00:08:01,881 --> 00:08:04,518 but he's also my safe space, 228 00:08:04,585 --> 00:08:05,819 like, someone I can count on. 229 00:08:05,886 --> 00:08:07,421 - He's reliable. - Yes. 230 00:08:07,488 --> 00:08:08,422 - Most of the time. 231 00:08:08,489 --> 00:08:09,857 - Most of the time. 232 00:08:09,924 --> 00:08:11,058 - Except for when you're in Times Square. 233 00:08:11,124 --> 00:08:12,626 - That's right. You made a plan to meet. 234 00:08:12,693 --> 00:08:13,861 When was that? 235 00:08:13,927 --> 00:08:15,396 - Like, about last month. 236 00:08:15,462 --> 00:08:18,398 I was going to New Jersey with my friend and her family. 237 00:08:18,465 --> 00:08:19,900 So I had texted him. 238 00:08:19,967 --> 00:08:21,702 I'm like, hey, I'm gonna be in New Jersey tomorrow, 239 00:08:21,769 --> 00:08:23,570 and I was wondering if you want to meet. 240 00:08:23,637 --> 00:08:25,940 He like, okay, I could be free around noon. 241 00:08:26,006 --> 00:08:27,875 He, like, gave me a place, like, a cafe. 242 00:08:27,941 --> 00:08:29,276 - Sure. In Times Square? 243 00:08:29,343 --> 00:08:30,478 - Yeah. 244 00:08:30,544 --> 00:08:32,913 I wait there for, like, about two hours. 245 00:08:32,980 --> 00:08:35,048 - You waited in the cafe for two hours? 246 00:08:35,115 --> 00:08:36,650 - Yes. And I texted him, 247 00:08:36,717 --> 00:08:38,786 hey, are you just not gonna show up? 248 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:40,220 Later that night, he texted me. 249 00:08:40,287 --> 00:08:41,821 Hey, sorry, I got caught up at work. 250 00:08:43,624 --> 00:08:45,092 Like, they just throw an extra shift on you 251 00:08:45,159 --> 00:08:46,393 or something like that. 252 00:08:46,460 --> 00:08:47,661 - But you can text, hey, they just 253 00:08:47,728 --> 00:08:49,629 threw an extra shift on me. I have to-- 254 00:08:49,696 --> 00:08:51,631 - Or I can't leave work. 255 00:08:51,698 --> 00:08:52,866 Come here. - Yeah. 256 00:08:52,933 --> 00:08:54,535 - I just kind of just left, and, like, 257 00:08:54,602 --> 00:08:56,837 the next morning, he just started texting back 258 00:08:56,904 --> 00:08:58,472 like everything was fine. 259 00:08:58,539 --> 00:09:00,007 So I just continued it. 260 00:09:00,074 --> 00:09:02,142 Like, we went back to how everything was. 261 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:04,711 And then like two weeks ago, 262 00:09:04,778 --> 00:09:06,346 he calls like, hey, I'm sorry. 263 00:09:06,413 --> 00:09:08,448 I can't, like, do this anymore. 264 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:10,317 I just need, like, time to myself. 265 00:09:10,384 --> 00:09:13,120 So I spent most of that night crying. 266 00:09:13,186 --> 00:09:16,090 And then recently, he's just, like, started texting, 267 00:09:16,156 --> 00:09:18,125 being flirty and, like, everything was normal again. 268 00:09:18,192 --> 00:09:20,627 So I text him, hey, how can you just text me 269 00:09:20,694 --> 00:09:22,296 and just act like you didn't just 270 00:09:22,363 --> 00:09:23,697 recently break up with me? 271 00:09:23,764 --> 00:09:24,731 - Good. 272 00:09:24,798 --> 00:09:25,999 Good for you for asking. 273 00:09:26,066 --> 00:09:27,534 And what did he say? 274 00:09:27,601 --> 00:09:28,969 - It was just like, yeah, I'm sorry about that, 275 00:09:29,035 --> 00:09:31,172 but I want to try to earn your trust again. 276 00:09:31,238 --> 00:09:32,672 - Okay, so there's an understanding 277 00:09:32,739 --> 00:09:33,974 that he knows that-- 278 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,376 - He, like, messed up. 279 00:09:35,442 --> 00:09:37,545 - Okay, and that he wants to kind of get back 280 00:09:37,611 --> 00:09:39,546 to being in a relationship? - Yeah. 281 00:09:39,613 --> 00:09:41,548 - And do you feel over the last week or two that 282 00:09:41,615 --> 00:09:43,717 that's sort of heading in that direction? 283 00:09:43,784 --> 00:09:46,753 - It's been fine, but it's like, 284 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:50,123 I don't know if I can, like, fully trust you completely. 285 00:09:50,190 --> 00:09:52,259 - Have you tried or asked him to FaceTime? 286 00:09:52,325 --> 00:09:54,894 - Yeah, I would ask him to, like, FaceTime here and there. 287 00:09:54,961 --> 00:09:58,265 He'd, like, make up excuses, like I'm busy with school. 288 00:09:58,331 --> 00:09:59,900 - Does he have a Facebook page? 289 00:09:59,967 --> 00:10:01,468 - Not at all. - Not an Instagram? 290 00:10:01,535 --> 00:10:02,802 - Mm-mm. 291 00:10:02,869 --> 00:10:04,905 - Not a Snapchat? Nothing? 292 00:10:04,972 --> 00:10:06,206 - Have you talked about social media, 293 00:10:06,273 --> 00:10:07,407 like why he doesn't have-- 294 00:10:07,474 --> 00:10:09,009 - I'll, like, bring up the topic, 295 00:10:09,076 --> 00:10:11,278 and he'll just, like, completely change the subject. 296 00:10:11,344 --> 00:10:12,746 - I'm dying to see this guy. - Yeah. 297 00:10:12,813 --> 00:10:14,514 Can we see the pictures? 298 00:10:14,581 --> 00:10:16,083 - Yeah. 299 00:10:16,149 --> 00:10:17,884 - Okay, I got to be honest. 300 00:10:17,951 --> 00:10:19,319 I like the way he looks. 301 00:10:19,386 --> 00:10:21,121 I didn't know what to expect, 302 00:10:21,188 --> 00:10:23,356 and his pictures match exactly 303 00:10:23,423 --> 00:10:25,159 kind of how you did describe him. 304 00:10:25,225 --> 00:10:27,227 But it's interesting that he doesn't FaceTime, 305 00:10:27,294 --> 00:10:30,231 'cause this guy looks like someone who's comfortable 306 00:10:30,297 --> 00:10:32,099 taking pictures of himself. - Yeah. 307 00:10:32,165 --> 00:10:34,467 - I have to say, if I'm just looking at, like, 308 00:10:34,534 --> 00:10:37,071 you haven't talked on FaceTime or video chat-- 309 00:10:37,138 --> 00:10:38,305 - No social media. 310 00:10:38,371 --> 00:10:39,940 - He stood you up, no social media. 311 00:10:40,007 --> 00:10:41,708 These are all classic red flags that you're 312 00:10:41,775 --> 00:10:44,945 talking to someone who's keeping something from you 313 00:10:45,012 --> 00:10:47,181 or lying entirely. 314 00:10:47,248 --> 00:10:49,383 - He's not good on paper. - Right. 315 00:10:49,450 --> 00:10:52,052 But hearing a little bit more about the relationship, 316 00:10:52,118 --> 00:10:54,054 I can see why you'd want to see if there's 317 00:10:54,121 --> 00:10:55,755 an opportunity to be together. 318 00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:57,724 - Yes. - Which would be-- 319 00:10:57,791 --> 00:10:59,193 - Amazing. 320 00:10:59,260 --> 00:11:01,662 - And have you thought about what that would be like? 321 00:11:01,729 --> 00:11:04,598 - Yeah, like, we've talked a bit recently about, 322 00:11:04,665 --> 00:11:07,367 like, we could eventually both move in together 323 00:11:07,434 --> 00:11:08,869 after we're both done with school. 324 00:11:08,935 --> 00:11:10,003 - Mm. 325 00:11:10,070 --> 00:11:12,239 That's serious. - Yeah. 326 00:11:12,305 --> 00:11:14,274 - You really love him. - Yeah. 327 00:11:14,341 --> 00:11:15,943 - I want this to work out, 328 00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:17,678 but we need you to be ready 329 00:11:17,745 --> 00:11:19,613 to start finding out the truth, whatever it is, 330 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,248 'cause we don't know what we're gonna find. 331 00:11:21,315 --> 00:11:22,983 - I'm hoping it's all good things. 332 00:11:23,050 --> 00:11:25,652 - Well, I think we want to make sure that you're still gonna 333 00:11:25,719 --> 00:11:28,923 be okay if we find out something that's 334 00:11:28,989 --> 00:11:31,959 not what you had hoped for. 335 00:11:32,025 --> 00:11:34,228 - That might actually be the hard part, 336 00:11:34,295 --> 00:11:37,130 'cause, like, I don't like getting attached to people, 337 00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:39,199 and, like, I've gotten attached to him. 338 00:11:39,265 --> 00:11:42,836 - I hope that's not what happens, but it could. 339 00:11:42,903 --> 00:11:43,970 - Is it worth it? 340 00:11:44,037 --> 00:11:45,438 - To know the truth? 341 00:11:45,505 --> 00:11:47,107 Yes, 'cause I'd rather know the truth than get 342 00:11:47,173 --> 00:11:49,476 lied to for another two years about stuff. 343 00:11:49,543 --> 00:11:51,311 - All right, we'll see what we can find, 344 00:11:51,378 --> 00:11:52,479 and we'll check back in with you 345 00:11:52,546 --> 00:11:53,947 and plan on meeting up-- - Okay. 346 00:11:54,014 --> 00:11:55,182 - To go over it all. 347 00:11:55,249 --> 00:11:56,750 - Good to meet you. 348 00:11:56,817 --> 00:11:57,918 - Nice meeting you too. 349 00:11:57,985 --> 00:11:59,686 [tense music] 350 00:11:59,753 --> 00:12:01,155 - Oh, boy. 351 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:05,025 Kay is a very deep and interesting person. 352 00:12:05,091 --> 00:12:06,293 - She's dealt with so much. 353 00:12:06,359 --> 00:12:08,195 - She's been through a lot. 354 00:12:08,262 --> 00:12:09,463 - Poor thing. 355 00:12:09,530 --> 00:12:11,965 But this guy has been, like, her rock. 356 00:12:12,032 --> 00:12:13,267 - Yeah. - I don't know. 357 00:12:13,334 --> 00:12:14,935 I would love for it to be him. 358 00:12:15,002 --> 00:12:17,604 But if it is him, he has a lot of explaining to do. 359 00:12:33,154 --> 00:12:36,289 [tense music] 360 00:12:36,356 --> 00:12:37,691 - Wow, this place is cool. 361 00:12:37,757 --> 00:12:39,626 - Death before decaf. 362 00:12:39,693 --> 00:12:41,228 That first sip feeling. 363 00:12:41,295 --> 00:12:42,496 - Ooh, that is good. 364 00:12:42,562 --> 00:12:43,564 - Mm. 365 00:12:43,630 --> 00:12:45,499 - All right, Kay and Tyreek. 366 00:12:45,566 --> 00:12:47,635 Kay has had a very difficult life. 367 00:12:47,701 --> 00:12:49,303 - Yeah. - But she goes on this app. 368 00:12:49,369 --> 00:12:50,571 She meets Tyreek. 369 00:12:50,638 --> 00:12:53,106 He seems really sweet, And they click. 370 00:12:53,173 --> 00:12:55,342 They really genuinely like each other. 371 00:12:55,409 --> 00:12:58,078 But obviously, they've never video chatted or met up. 372 00:12:58,144 --> 00:13:00,347 So she needs to know who this guy is 373 00:13:00,414 --> 00:13:02,082 and what this guy wants. - Right. 374 00:13:02,149 --> 00:13:04,819 - All right, let's start this investigation. 375 00:13:04,885 --> 00:13:06,286 Kay sent us an email. 376 00:13:06,353 --> 00:13:07,821 "Here is what I know about Tyreek. 377 00:13:07,888 --> 00:13:08,923 His phone number." 378 00:13:08,989 --> 00:13:10,357 And then, "He lives in New York." 379 00:13:10,424 --> 00:13:11,458 - Cool. 380 00:13:11,525 --> 00:13:12,793 - "He doesn't have social media, 381 00:13:12,859 --> 00:13:14,561 "but his username on the friend finding app 382 00:13:14,628 --> 00:13:16,596 was reekusfreekuss." 383 00:13:16,663 --> 00:13:17,964 - So Tyreek, Reekus. 384 00:13:18,031 --> 00:13:19,066 - Right, that makes sense. 385 00:13:19,133 --> 00:13:21,335 "Also, I attached his pictures." 386 00:13:21,402 --> 00:13:24,304 And then she said, "That's actually all I have." 387 00:13:24,371 --> 00:13:26,440 First thing I want to do-- let's look up 388 00:13:26,506 --> 00:13:29,376 this Reekusfreekuss and see if it pops up anywhere. 389 00:13:29,443 --> 00:13:30,844 It's a pretty specific-- 390 00:13:32,012 --> 00:13:33,013 Nothing? 391 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,115 We could go to, like, Instagram. 392 00:13:35,182 --> 00:13:37,284 Wait a sec. Whoa! 393 00:13:37,351 --> 00:13:38,552 Look at that. 394 00:13:38,618 --> 00:13:41,154 - "Tyreek M." We've got an initial. 395 00:13:41,221 --> 00:13:43,290 Maybe his last name starts with M. 396 00:13:43,357 --> 00:13:46,360 An anime profile-- we know he's into anime. 397 00:13:46,426 --> 00:13:50,730 - He told her he doesn't have any social media. 398 00:13:50,797 --> 00:13:54,434 - To be fair, there are only 11 posts. 399 00:13:54,501 --> 00:13:55,869 Most of them are memes. 400 00:13:55,935 --> 00:13:57,271 He certainly doesn't post pictures of himself. 401 00:13:57,337 --> 00:13:59,673 So he wouldn't really be lying that 402 00:13:59,739 --> 00:14:01,775 he barely uses social media. 403 00:14:01,842 --> 00:14:03,577 Oh, he's tagged in something. 404 00:14:03,644 --> 00:14:05,278 Wait a second. What is this? 405 00:14:05,345 --> 00:14:06,680 Hold on. 406 00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:09,316 So a guy named Brandonn photoshopped 407 00:14:09,383 --> 00:14:12,352 a photo of, presumably, some friends of his. 408 00:14:12,419 --> 00:14:14,854 - Mm-hmm. - But the person 409 00:14:14,921 --> 00:14:17,057 in the picture that's meant to be Tyreek 410 00:14:17,124 --> 00:14:19,259 is the anime character. 411 00:14:19,326 --> 00:14:21,695 We should probably reach out to this guy, Brandonn. 412 00:14:21,762 --> 00:14:23,630 He must know him somewhat. 413 00:14:23,697 --> 00:14:24,664 - Yeah. 414 00:14:24,731 --> 00:14:26,033 - Message. 415 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:29,336 Hey, Brandonn, "Catfish" needs your help. 416 00:14:29,403 --> 00:14:32,139 Give me a call if you can. 417 00:14:32,205 --> 00:14:33,340 Great. 418 00:14:33,406 --> 00:14:35,775 And then let's do the other guy, Justin. 419 00:14:35,842 --> 00:14:37,278 Give me a call if you can. 420 00:14:37,345 --> 00:14:38,645 Okay, great. 421 00:14:38,712 --> 00:14:40,881 So he does have a social media, but he really 422 00:14:40,948 --> 00:14:42,650 doesn't seem to post pictures of himself 423 00:14:42,716 --> 00:14:44,584 or post hardly at all. 424 00:14:44,651 --> 00:14:47,087 So even though we found his Instagram, 425 00:14:47,153 --> 00:14:49,089 we don't know if he's the guy in the pictures. 426 00:14:49,156 --> 00:14:50,624 All right, let's run the photos. 427 00:14:50,691 --> 00:14:52,325 Here we go. 428 00:14:52,392 --> 00:14:53,693 - Nothing. 429 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,028 - All right, let's just try the other picture 430 00:14:55,095 --> 00:14:56,564 just on the off chance that-- 431 00:14:56,630 --> 00:14:57,965 - No. 432 00:14:58,031 --> 00:14:59,599 - All right, so no hits on any pics. 433 00:14:59,666 --> 00:15:03,070 Let's take the phone number, a little phone search. 434 00:15:03,136 --> 00:15:04,838 Drumroll. 435 00:15:06,306 --> 00:15:07,474 - No name. 436 00:15:07,541 --> 00:15:08,642 - All right, let's try another website. 437 00:15:08,709 --> 00:15:10,144 Let's see. 438 00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:12,112 Drumroll. 439 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,048 - Nothing. 440 00:15:15,115 --> 00:15:16,884 - All right, we got one more site we can try. 441 00:15:16,951 --> 00:15:19,386 - Drumroll. 442 00:15:19,453 --> 00:15:20,787 Oh. - Ooh! 443 00:15:20,854 --> 00:15:22,022 - Tyreek [bleep]. 444 00:15:22,088 --> 00:15:23,257 - We got a last name. 445 00:15:23,324 --> 00:15:25,025 That's crazy. This is him. 446 00:15:25,092 --> 00:15:26,560 - Binghamton. - Binghamton. 447 00:15:26,626 --> 00:15:27,994 That's in Upstate New York. 448 00:15:28,061 --> 00:15:29,096 I mean, this is our guy. 449 00:15:29,162 --> 00:15:30,530 - It's definitely him. 450 00:15:30,597 --> 00:15:34,301 - Weirdly, it kind of feels like Tyreek may have been 451 00:15:34,367 --> 00:15:37,104 telling the truth about a lot. - Mm-hmm. 452 00:15:37,171 --> 00:15:40,007 - But possibly lied about living in New York City. 453 00:15:40,074 --> 00:15:41,741 - I think that might just be it. 454 00:15:41,808 --> 00:15:43,777 - Right? 455 00:15:43,844 --> 00:15:45,846 This-- this could be Brandonn or-- 456 00:15:45,912 --> 00:15:47,080 - Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin. 457 00:15:47,147 --> 00:15:48,215 - Hello? 458 00:15:49,049 --> 00:15:50,317 - Hi, is this Justin? 459 00:15:51,518 --> 00:15:55,155 - Hey, it's Nev from the show "Catfish." 460 00:15:55,222 --> 00:15:56,990 - What's up? How you doing? 461 00:15:59,893 --> 00:16:02,429 - Well, we're making an episode right now 462 00:16:02,495 --> 00:16:04,632 and trying to confirm. 463 00:16:04,698 --> 00:16:07,067 Your friend, Tyreek, has been talking to this girl 464 00:16:07,134 --> 00:16:08,368 for a few years now. 465 00:16:08,435 --> 00:16:11,471 Has he ever mentioned his friend, Kay? 466 00:16:14,775 --> 00:16:16,143 - Okay. 467 00:16:16,209 --> 00:16:18,145 Right now, the only sort of question mark 468 00:16:18,212 --> 00:16:20,313 is whether or not he's the guy in the pictures that he sent. 469 00:16:20,380 --> 00:16:21,682 Would it be weird if I just texted you 470 00:16:21,749 --> 00:16:23,383 a quick--a picture of Tyreek, 471 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:25,285 and you can just confirm that it's him? 472 00:16:26,620 --> 00:16:28,255 - Look, I'm just gonna send you a quick picture, 473 00:16:28,322 --> 00:16:30,924 and let me know when it comes through. 474 00:16:34,161 --> 00:16:36,664 - Oh. Oh, weird. Okay. 475 00:16:36,730 --> 00:16:38,131 You don't know who that is, do you? 476 00:16:38,198 --> 00:16:39,566 - You don't know who that is? 477 00:16:39,633 --> 00:16:41,268 But that is not Tyreek? 478 00:16:42,903 --> 00:16:44,504 - Does it look anything like Tyreek? 479 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:47,841 - Oh. Okay, interesting. 480 00:16:47,908 --> 00:16:49,075 Well, I appreciate it. Thank you. 481 00:16:49,142 --> 00:16:50,444 You've actually been very helpful. 482 00:16:50,511 --> 00:16:51,545 Have a great day. 483 00:16:56,450 --> 00:16:58,485 - Okay, thank you. 484 00:16:58,551 --> 00:16:59,987 Not Tyreek. - What? 485 00:17:00,054 --> 00:17:01,555 I'm shocked. 486 00:17:01,622 --> 00:17:03,189 - Well, that would make a lot of sense 487 00:17:03,256 --> 00:17:05,559 as to why he hasn't wanted to FaceTime. 488 00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:06,960 That answers some questions. 489 00:17:07,027 --> 00:17:08,595 - And that would explain why he broke up with her 490 00:17:08,662 --> 00:17:10,764 because he had already sent her the pictures of the other guy. 491 00:17:10,831 --> 00:17:12,866 - We got to get over there and go over all this with her. 492 00:17:12,933 --> 00:17:14,301 - I don't know that I want to. 493 00:17:14,368 --> 00:17:16,169 - I know, but word is out. 494 00:17:16,236 --> 00:17:18,505 Justin knows we're on the case. 495 00:17:18,572 --> 00:17:20,240 - He said, "I'm sorry she's getting catfished." 496 00:17:20,307 --> 00:17:21,742 Is that what he said at the end? 497 00:17:21,809 --> 00:17:23,811 - Yeah. it sounded like he knows Tyreek is a catfish. 498 00:17:23,878 --> 00:17:24,978 - Does this. - Right. 499 00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:26,513 - I'm weirded out. 500 00:17:32,686 --> 00:17:35,089 - Well, Tyreek seems to be a real person. 501 00:17:35,156 --> 00:17:36,256 That's good. 502 00:17:36,323 --> 00:17:37,557 - But he's lying about his face. 503 00:17:37,624 --> 00:17:40,093 Who are those pictures of? 504 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,629 - Okay, here we go. 505 00:17:42,696 --> 00:17:44,698 - What a gentleman. 506 00:17:44,765 --> 00:17:46,133 Ah. 507 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,667 [knocking at door] 508 00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:49,370 - Hi. - Hey. 509 00:17:49,437 --> 00:17:50,704 - Good to see you. 510 00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,039 - Good to see you too. 511 00:17:52,105 --> 00:17:53,174 - Ooh. 512 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,975 Why don't we sit down? 513 00:17:55,041 --> 00:17:57,310 - Did you hear anything from Tyreek? 514 00:17:57,377 --> 00:17:59,346 - I texted him earlier to check in. 515 00:17:59,413 --> 00:18:00,547 He said he was doing fine. 516 00:18:00,614 --> 00:18:01,949 That's about it. 517 00:18:02,016 --> 00:18:03,684 - All right, well, look, we did some research today. 518 00:18:03,751 --> 00:18:05,319 We'll kind of just go through it. 519 00:18:05,385 --> 00:18:06,887 Cool? - Yeah. 520 00:18:06,953 --> 00:18:09,289 - Come around so we can all look at the computer together. 521 00:18:09,356 --> 00:18:11,058 [suspenseful music] 522 00:18:11,124 --> 00:18:13,127 So in your email, we had a phone number, 523 00:18:13,193 --> 00:18:16,830 and we had some pictures and his username, Reekusfreekuss, 524 00:18:16,897 --> 00:18:18,599 from the app that you met on. 525 00:18:18,665 --> 00:18:21,801 So we thought that's a very specific username. 526 00:18:21,868 --> 00:18:25,806 Maybe he's used Reekusfreekuss somewhere else. 527 00:18:25,872 --> 00:18:29,076 When we went to Instagram, and we searched Reekusfreekuss, 528 00:18:29,143 --> 00:18:30,377 something comes up. 529 00:18:30,444 --> 00:18:31,845 Have you ever seen this? - No. 530 00:18:31,912 --> 00:18:34,681 - It says Tyreek with a last initial M, 531 00:18:34,748 --> 00:18:36,383 which was a piece of new information 532 00:18:36,450 --> 00:18:37,885 that I don't think you had. - Mm-mm. 533 00:18:37,951 --> 00:18:39,786 - Looks like this could be our guy. 534 00:18:39,853 --> 00:18:41,555 Not a lot on here, certainly no pictures 535 00:18:41,621 --> 00:18:42,790 of him, unfortunately. 536 00:18:42,857 --> 00:18:44,591 But why would he hide this from you? 537 00:18:44,658 --> 00:18:47,061 It just seemed strange to us. 538 00:18:47,127 --> 00:18:49,529 When we go to the tagged photos of him, 539 00:18:49,596 --> 00:18:51,465 there is a photo of him that's tagged. 540 00:18:51,532 --> 00:18:53,901 It was posted by this guy, Brandonn. 541 00:18:53,967 --> 00:18:55,569 Did he ever talk about a friend named Brandonn? 542 00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:57,170 Does he talk about friends? 543 00:18:57,237 --> 00:18:59,340 - I've heard, like, about him playing, like, the video game 544 00:18:59,406 --> 00:19:00,607 with his friend, Justin. - Oh, wow. 545 00:19:00,674 --> 00:19:02,008 So wait, wait, wait. 546 00:19:02,075 --> 00:19:03,076 So he's talked about his friend, Justin? 547 00:19:03,143 --> 00:19:04,444 - Yeah. 548 00:19:04,511 --> 00:19:07,848 - The only other person tagged in this is Justin. 549 00:19:07,915 --> 00:19:10,451 Whoever made this obviously went to some trouble 550 00:19:10,518 --> 00:19:11,919 to Photoshop this. 551 00:19:11,985 --> 00:19:14,354 - Clearly. - They must know Tyreek. 552 00:19:14,421 --> 00:19:17,057 So we actually just sent out a message to both of them, 553 00:19:17,123 --> 00:19:19,460 and just said, hey, we could use your help, give us a call. 554 00:19:19,526 --> 00:19:21,228 - Okay. - And then we'll show you 555 00:19:21,294 --> 00:19:24,064 what we did while we waited for them, hopefully, to call. 556 00:19:24,130 --> 00:19:26,900 - All right. - So we ran his phone number. 557 00:19:26,967 --> 00:19:29,804 And when we did that, it came back to someone 558 00:19:29,870 --> 00:19:31,872 named Tyreek [bleep]. 559 00:19:31,938 --> 00:19:33,640 So this was exciting. 560 00:19:33,707 --> 00:19:34,941 Okay, we got a name, a location, 561 00:19:35,008 --> 00:19:37,044 specifically Binghamton, New York-- 562 00:19:37,111 --> 00:19:38,545 not Manhattan. 563 00:19:38,612 --> 00:19:40,714 So this sort of felt like-- it looked like we for sure 564 00:19:40,781 --> 00:19:42,650 now know Tyreek is a real person. 565 00:19:42,717 --> 00:19:44,885 Maybe he doesn't live in the city. 566 00:19:44,952 --> 00:19:46,219 - Yeah. 567 00:19:46,286 --> 00:19:47,955 - Which would explain why he couldn't meet you. 568 00:19:48,022 --> 00:19:52,526 But we then got a phone call from Justin. 569 00:19:52,593 --> 00:19:54,194 He's like, what's this about? 570 00:19:54,261 --> 00:19:56,630 I said, Tyreek has been talking to this girl, Kay. 571 00:19:56,697 --> 00:19:58,566 The big question I really want to ask you is, 572 00:19:58,632 --> 00:20:01,034 if you could just confirm that he's the guy 573 00:20:01,101 --> 00:20:02,636 in the pictures we have of him. 574 00:20:02,703 --> 00:20:04,471 We texted him a picture. 575 00:20:04,538 --> 00:20:06,506 And immediately, Justin was like, no, 576 00:20:06,573 --> 00:20:08,608 that is not Tyreek. 577 00:20:08,675 --> 00:20:10,710 And then Justin said, I got to go. 578 00:20:10,777 --> 00:20:12,446 I'm sorry she's getting catfished. 579 00:20:12,513 --> 00:20:13,780 He said that. 580 00:20:13,847 --> 00:20:15,849 - Yeah, but he didn't sound surprised. 581 00:20:15,916 --> 00:20:18,652 - So that was kind of where we left it. 582 00:20:18,719 --> 00:20:21,188 [somber music] 583 00:20:21,254 --> 00:20:24,391 - I have, like, no idea what to think now. 584 00:20:24,457 --> 00:20:27,294 I thought that was the person I've been talking to. 585 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:29,029 I've told the person-- 586 00:20:29,095 --> 00:20:31,631 this person literally things I've never told anybody else. 587 00:20:31,698 --> 00:20:35,636 ♪♪ ♪♪ 588 00:20:35,703 --> 00:20:37,704 Lying about where you live or, like, 589 00:20:37,771 --> 00:20:40,140 not having social media, that's something, like, 590 00:20:40,207 --> 00:20:44,111 anybody can just, like, forgive and forget about. 591 00:20:44,177 --> 00:20:48,014 Like, lying about who you actually are? 592 00:20:48,081 --> 00:20:50,651 That's just completely messed up. 593 00:20:50,718 --> 00:20:53,186 - And the real worry that we now had, 594 00:20:53,253 --> 00:20:57,091 you know, again, if Justin's telling us the truth, 595 00:20:57,158 --> 00:20:59,493 why does it sound like this could be 596 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:01,661 something he's done before? 597 00:21:01,728 --> 00:21:05,166 Are there other people that he talks to 598 00:21:05,232 --> 00:21:07,968 that are hoping to meet up with him? 599 00:21:08,035 --> 00:21:10,604 - He could have been in the cafe while you were there, 600 00:21:10,671 --> 00:21:12,639 and you would have had no idea 601 00:21:12,706 --> 00:21:14,408 because he's not the guy in the pictures. 602 00:21:14,475 --> 00:21:16,410 - Yeah. 603 00:21:16,476 --> 00:21:19,547 - So yeah, we don't know who this guy is. 604 00:21:19,613 --> 00:21:21,414 But according to Justin, it's definitely 605 00:21:21,481 --> 00:21:24,084 not who you're talking to. 606 00:21:24,151 --> 00:21:26,320 Wait a second. I just noticed this. 607 00:21:26,387 --> 00:21:29,223 Look in the background here of this photo of Tyreek. 608 00:21:29,290 --> 00:21:30,424 Wait, wait. 609 00:21:30,491 --> 00:21:31,792 Holy [bleep]. 610 00:21:31,859 --> 00:21:33,727 [tense music] 611 00:21:38,199 --> 00:21:39,533 - Wait a second. I just noticed this. 612 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,968 Look in the background here of this photo of Tyreek. 613 00:21:41,035 --> 00:21:42,336 Holy [bleep]. 614 00:21:42,403 --> 00:21:43,871 - There's a diploma. - A diploma. 615 00:21:43,937 --> 00:21:45,138 It says-- 616 00:21:45,205 --> 00:21:46,507 - Something high school. 617 00:21:46,574 --> 00:21:48,809 - Is that Binghamton? - It is. 618 00:21:48,876 --> 00:21:50,044 What is that name? 619 00:21:50,110 --> 00:21:51,511 - Wait, that says Tyreek. 620 00:21:51,578 --> 00:21:53,313 Wait a second. - Does it? 621 00:21:53,380 --> 00:21:55,315 - That--I swear to God, that says Tyreek. 622 00:21:55,382 --> 00:21:56,750 - It's so blurry. 623 00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:58,419 - No, but that's an M, and then that looks 624 00:21:58,485 --> 00:22:00,053 like it could say Tyreek. 625 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:01,922 I can't believe we didn't notice that until just now. 626 00:22:01,989 --> 00:22:03,490 - I never saw that. 627 00:22:03,556 --> 00:22:05,425 - Well, now, I mean, I wasn't sure how much 628 00:22:05,492 --> 00:22:07,394 to believe Justin, but I-- 629 00:22:07,461 --> 00:22:11,065 I would bet that says Tyreek [bleep]. 630 00:22:11,132 --> 00:22:12,299 - What the hell? 631 00:22:12,366 --> 00:22:13,400 Why would he lie? 632 00:22:13,467 --> 00:22:14,734 - What is Tyreek hiding? 633 00:22:14,801 --> 00:22:17,538 And/or why is Justin being shady? 634 00:22:17,604 --> 00:22:19,106 - Maybe he is Tyreek. 635 00:22:19,173 --> 00:22:21,008 Something is wrong. - That is-- 636 00:22:21,074 --> 00:22:22,409 - Something is wrong. 637 00:22:22,476 --> 00:22:24,111 - Why would Justin lie to us? 638 00:22:24,177 --> 00:22:26,913 - I think we need to go straight to the source now. 639 00:22:26,980 --> 00:22:28,416 - I want, like, answers, 640 00:22:28,482 --> 00:22:32,085 'cause either Tyreek himself is lying or his friend. 641 00:22:32,152 --> 00:22:33,687 I feel like you should call him. 642 00:22:33,754 --> 00:22:36,256 - If he knows we're on to him, do you think he'll answer? 643 00:22:36,323 --> 00:22:38,092 I mean, I don't know. - We could try. 644 00:22:38,158 --> 00:22:39,326 - I guess, yeah, it's worth a shot. 645 00:22:39,393 --> 00:22:40,761 All right. 646 00:22:40,827 --> 00:22:42,929 [line trilling] 647 00:22:42,996 --> 00:22:44,998 - At the tone, please record your message. 648 00:22:45,065 --> 00:22:48,001 When you've finished recording, you may hang up or press one-- 649 00:22:48,068 --> 00:22:49,236 - All right, well, let's text. 650 00:22:49,303 --> 00:22:50,437 Hey, Tyreek. 651 00:22:50,504 --> 00:22:51,939 This is Nev from the show "Catfish." 652 00:22:52,006 --> 00:22:53,674 I'm with Kay in Massachusetts hoping to get in touch. 653 00:22:53,741 --> 00:22:54,942 We can help you guys finally meet up. 654 00:22:55,008 --> 00:22:56,877 Give me a call when you can. 655 00:22:56,943 --> 00:22:57,878 All right, well then-- 656 00:22:57,945 --> 00:22:59,112 - Let's call Justin. 657 00:22:59,179 --> 00:23:00,280 He's got a lot of explaining to do. 658 00:23:00,347 --> 00:23:01,449 - Yeah. 659 00:23:01,515 --> 00:23:03,017 [line trilling] 660 00:23:03,617 --> 00:23:05,485 - Hey, Justin. It's Nev. 661 00:23:05,552 --> 00:23:07,721 Why--why did you lie to us about the picture? 662 00:23:07,787 --> 00:23:10,291 We just noticed a diploma with Tyreek's name on it 663 00:23:10,357 --> 00:23:11,826 in the photo we sent you. 664 00:23:11,892 --> 00:23:13,593 Why did you say that it wasn't him? 665 00:23:22,970 --> 00:23:25,806 - Is there anything else you told us that wasn't true? 666 00:23:25,873 --> 00:23:28,308 Has he ever mentioned Kay to you? 667 00:23:33,714 --> 00:23:35,382 - Got it. We were actually just trying 668 00:23:35,449 --> 00:23:38,084 to reach him to set up a meeting, 669 00:23:38,151 --> 00:23:39,353 but he-- 670 00:23:39,419 --> 00:23:40,987 we haven't had any luck yet. 671 00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:45,692 - Oh. 672 00:23:47,427 --> 00:23:49,729 - Where would we meet him, in Binghamton? 673 00:23:51,265 --> 00:23:52,732 - He does? Okay. 674 00:23:57,171 --> 00:23:59,940 - So you're willing to meet us in Binghamton 675 00:24:00,006 --> 00:24:04,678 to sort of help with coaxing him to meet up with us? 676 00:24:05,646 --> 00:24:07,414 - We appreciate your help, although you understand 677 00:24:07,481 --> 00:24:09,583 it's a little hard to-- 678 00:24:09,650 --> 00:24:11,652 - Trust you at this moment, but okay. 679 00:24:11,719 --> 00:24:13,621 Do you think you could encourage him to text 680 00:24:13,687 --> 00:24:17,490 and confirm he is a willing participant? 681 00:24:19,326 --> 00:24:22,329 - Okay, should we just plan on meeting you in Binghamton 682 00:24:22,395 --> 00:24:23,897 basically in town somewhere? 683 00:24:26,366 --> 00:24:28,301 - Okay, later. 684 00:24:28,368 --> 00:24:29,536 - I'm sorry. That was, like, 685 00:24:29,603 --> 00:24:31,505 completely suspicious. - That is weird. 686 00:24:31,571 --> 00:24:33,474 Is Justin involved in this somehow, 687 00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:35,275 or is it really just Tyreek? 688 00:24:35,342 --> 00:24:36,777 - I just think his friend's suspicious. 689 00:24:36,843 --> 00:24:38,512 Like, the whole thing is just weird. 690 00:24:38,579 --> 00:24:40,814 - I'm even more confused than I was before. 691 00:24:40,881 --> 00:24:42,449 - I--I guess we're just gonna have 692 00:24:42,516 --> 00:24:44,985 to kind of roll the dice and head out there 693 00:24:45,051 --> 00:24:47,454 and sort of find out. 694 00:24:47,521 --> 00:24:50,223 Are you down to take that chance? 695 00:24:50,290 --> 00:24:53,227 - I'll give him the benefit of the doubt one last time. 696 00:24:54,195 --> 00:24:57,097 - Well, then I guess it looks like we're taking 697 00:24:57,163 --> 00:24:58,365 a little bit of a road trip. 698 00:24:58,432 --> 00:24:59,733 - Okay. 699 00:25:00,734 --> 00:25:03,003 - Oh, there she is. 700 00:25:04,505 --> 00:25:06,340 Is that all you got? - Yeah. 701 00:25:06,406 --> 00:25:07,574 - How are you feeling? 702 00:25:07,641 --> 00:25:09,075 - Nervous as hell. 703 00:25:09,142 --> 00:25:10,411 He texted. 704 00:25:10,477 --> 00:25:11,478 Can I show it to you? 705 00:25:11,545 --> 00:25:12,679 - Oh. - Oh. 706 00:25:12,746 --> 00:25:14,614 - "I'm sorry if things have been weird. 707 00:25:14,681 --> 00:25:17,251 "I really feel like this is the only way we'd 708 00:25:17,317 --> 00:25:18,652 realistically get to meet." 709 00:25:18,718 --> 00:25:21,422 Okay, so finally, he's acknowledged meeting up. 710 00:25:21,488 --> 00:25:23,290 - Yeah. - All right. 711 00:25:23,357 --> 00:25:24,592 We're going to Binghamton. 712 00:25:24,658 --> 00:25:26,326 [line trilling] 713 00:25:26,393 --> 00:25:27,527 - Hey, Justin. 714 00:25:27,594 --> 00:25:28,995 Where should we meet you and Tyreek at? 715 00:25:32,232 --> 00:25:33,834 - Okay. Here we go. 716 00:25:33,901 --> 00:25:37,470 - ♪♪ Is this what I deserve? ♪♪ 717 00:25:37,537 --> 00:25:41,075 ♪♪ Made me wonder what I'm worth ♪♪ 718 00:25:41,142 --> 00:25:42,142 [phone dings] 719 00:25:42,209 --> 00:25:43,577 - Justin shared his location. 720 00:25:43,644 --> 00:25:45,345 - Where is he? - Rockaway. 721 00:25:45,412 --> 00:25:47,981 He's going in the direction of Binghamton. 722 00:25:48,048 --> 00:25:51,084 So he's coming all the way to be there for his friend? 723 00:25:51,151 --> 00:25:53,620 Or is he coming all the way because he's the one 724 00:25:53,687 --> 00:25:55,022 you've been talking to? 725 00:25:55,089 --> 00:25:58,625 - ♪♪ Were we better as a secret? ♪♪ 726 00:25:58,692 --> 00:26:01,428 ♪♪ After all this time we keep it ♪♪ 727 00:26:01,495 --> 00:26:03,631 - Made it to Binghamton. 728 00:26:03,697 --> 00:26:05,199 - Kay, how are you feeling? 729 00:26:05,265 --> 00:26:06,967 - I don't know. 730 00:26:07,034 --> 00:26:09,537 I'm, like, scared and nervous at the same time. 731 00:26:09,603 --> 00:26:11,572 - I don't know if you believe in signs, 732 00:26:11,638 --> 00:26:13,273 but this is the exit. 733 00:26:13,340 --> 00:26:15,042 - Endwell? - Yeah. 734 00:26:15,108 --> 00:26:16,610 So maybe we'll get lucky. 735 00:26:16,677 --> 00:26:20,748 - ♪♪ Let this be our final ride ♪♪ 736 00:26:20,814 --> 00:26:24,150 ♪♪ Let's go back ♪♪ 737 00:26:25,285 --> 00:26:26,720 - I think this is the street. 738 00:26:26,787 --> 00:26:28,522 [tense music] 739 00:26:28,589 --> 00:26:30,423 It's gonna be that side. 740 00:26:30,490 --> 00:26:32,192 Oh, that's it. That's it. 741 00:26:33,727 --> 00:26:35,529 - Holy [bleep]. 742 00:26:35,595 --> 00:26:37,064 - Let's check it out. 743 00:26:37,131 --> 00:26:43,871 ♪♪ ♪♪ 744 00:26:43,937 --> 00:26:45,505 - Just breathe. Just breathe. 745 00:26:45,572 --> 00:26:46,941 Just breathe. 746 00:26:47,007 --> 00:26:49,175 - I'm trying so hard not to cry right now. 747 00:26:52,613 --> 00:26:58,452 ♪♪ ♪♪ 748 00:26:58,518 --> 00:27:00,320 [doorbell chimes] 749 00:27:01,955 --> 00:27:04,157 - You're gonna be okay no matter what happens. 750 00:27:06,793 --> 00:27:08,695 - Oh, here's someone. 751 00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:11,565 - Somebody's coming. 752 00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:16,036 - Hey. 753 00:27:19,740 --> 00:27:21,141 - All right, nice to meet you. 754 00:27:21,208 --> 00:27:22,309 - That's Justin. 755 00:27:24,978 --> 00:27:26,746 - Well, what does he need to be ready? 756 00:27:28,648 --> 00:27:29,883 - Oh. 757 00:27:29,950 --> 00:27:31,418 Is the issue with the cameras? 758 00:27:31,485 --> 00:27:34,688 Because I could also come in and talk to him, no cameras. 759 00:27:35,956 --> 00:27:37,257 - Okay, it's just me. 760 00:27:38,726 --> 00:27:39,993 - Okay, all right. 761 00:27:40,060 --> 00:27:41,127 Thank you. 762 00:27:42,228 --> 00:27:43,463 - Tyreek. 763 00:27:43,530 --> 00:27:44,898 - I'm freaking out. 764 00:27:46,266 --> 00:27:47,801 - Hello? 765 00:27:47,868 --> 00:27:49,670 - Why am I so [bleep] nervous? 766 00:27:49,736 --> 00:27:51,172 - Is anyone here? 767 00:27:51,238 --> 00:27:53,039 [dramatic music] 768 00:27:59,246 --> 00:28:01,348 - Well, what does he need to be ready? 769 00:28:02,983 --> 00:28:04,084 - Oh. 770 00:28:04,150 --> 00:28:05,619 Is the issue the cameras? 771 00:28:05,686 --> 00:28:09,323 Because I could also come in and talk to him, no cameras. 772 00:28:09,389 --> 00:28:11,458 - Yeah. - Okay, it's just me. 773 00:28:12,959 --> 00:28:14,028 - Okay. - All right. 774 00:28:14,095 --> 00:28:15,295 - Thank you. 775 00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:17,831 - Tyreek. 776 00:28:17,898 --> 00:28:19,299 - I'm freaking out. 777 00:28:20,701 --> 00:28:22,236 - Hello? 778 00:28:22,303 --> 00:28:24,171 - Why am I so [bleep] nervous? 779 00:28:24,238 --> 00:28:25,806 - Is anyone here? 780 00:28:25,873 --> 00:28:27,941 [tense music] 781 00:28:28,008 --> 00:28:29,176 - Can I just chat for a second? 782 00:28:29,243 --> 00:28:30,577 It's just me, no camera. 783 00:28:31,678 --> 00:28:33,480 - What's up, man? How's it going? 784 00:28:36,450 --> 00:28:38,252 - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not doing-- 785 00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:39,920 no cameras, no cameras. 786 00:28:41,121 --> 00:28:42,189 I understand. 787 00:28:42,256 --> 00:28:43,957 I'm not here to, like, make you do 788 00:28:44,024 --> 00:28:45,459 anything you don't want to do. 789 00:28:45,525 --> 00:28:47,360 I just didn't honestly know if there 790 00:28:47,427 --> 00:28:49,463 was even a person in here. 791 00:28:49,529 --> 00:28:51,298 - This is so sketchy. 792 00:28:52,332 --> 00:28:53,934 Who the hell is talking? 793 00:28:54,001 --> 00:28:55,335 - I have no idea. 794 00:28:55,402 --> 00:28:57,404 - Oh, [bleep]. 795 00:28:57,470 --> 00:29:00,174 - Everything you're feeling, Kay is feeling 796 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,143 as or way more strongly than you. 797 00:29:03,210 --> 00:29:05,913 She's a total mess. 798 00:29:05,980 --> 00:29:08,816 And I know you're not trying to make her feel that way, 799 00:29:08,883 --> 00:29:10,717 but you are. 800 00:29:10,784 --> 00:29:12,920 So how can we make sure that you're comfortable enough 801 00:29:12,987 --> 00:29:13,987 to meet with us? 802 00:29:21,829 --> 00:29:22,862 - Okay. 803 00:29:24,031 --> 00:29:26,700 I'll hear from you in the morning? 804 00:29:26,767 --> 00:29:27,801 - Okay. 805 00:29:28,868 --> 00:29:29,970 - See ya. 806 00:29:30,037 --> 00:29:31,372 [tense music] 807 00:29:31,439 --> 00:29:33,574 - What was that? 808 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,309 - All right. Thanks, Justin. - You're welcome. 809 00:29:35,376 --> 00:29:37,678 ♪♪ ♪♪ 810 00:29:37,744 --> 00:29:39,112 - Who was in-- who was in the house? 811 00:29:39,179 --> 00:29:40,414 Who's in the house? 812 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,016 - Who's in the house? 813 00:29:42,082 --> 00:29:43,583 - Tyreek was in there. 814 00:29:43,650 --> 00:29:45,553 - Him? The real him? - Yeah. 815 00:29:45,619 --> 00:29:46,753 It's him. 816 00:29:46,820 --> 00:29:48,655 - He looks like him? - Yeah. 817 00:29:48,722 --> 00:29:51,124 I didn't ask him any questions, but I said to him, 818 00:29:51,191 --> 00:29:53,193 I had to make sure you existed. 819 00:29:53,259 --> 00:29:56,063 He said he's super nervous, 820 00:29:56,130 --> 00:29:58,899 but that he will meet us tomorrow. 821 00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:01,968 He seemed to be committed to doing that. 822 00:30:02,035 --> 00:30:03,103 All right? 823 00:30:03,170 --> 00:30:04,504 - I guess. 824 00:30:05,705 --> 00:30:08,108 - Let's--let's get back to the hotel. 825 00:30:08,175 --> 00:30:11,411 ♪♪ ♪♪ 826 00:30:11,478 --> 00:30:13,981 - [sniffling] 827 00:30:14,047 --> 00:30:15,516 - Are you okay? 828 00:30:15,582 --> 00:30:17,151 - I understand you're nervous, but, like, 829 00:30:17,218 --> 00:30:21,588 you could at least try. 830 00:30:22,422 --> 00:30:28,229 - He does genuinely seem very anxious and nervous. 831 00:30:28,295 --> 00:30:30,163 - Is he anxious and nervous 832 00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:32,399 because he's just anxious and nervous? 833 00:30:32,466 --> 00:30:34,934 Or is he anxious and nervous because he has a secret? 834 00:30:35,001 --> 00:30:37,671 - I think we're just gonna have to sort of wait 835 00:30:37,738 --> 00:30:41,508 and cross our fingers that tomorrow, he's ready. 836 00:30:43,877 --> 00:30:46,179 [upbeat music] [knocking at door] 837 00:30:46,246 --> 00:30:47,414 - Hey. - Hi. 838 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,450 - Good morning. Oh, wow. 839 00:30:49,516 --> 00:30:51,218 I love the fit. 840 00:30:51,284 --> 00:30:52,553 - Thank you. - All right, you ready? 841 00:30:52,620 --> 00:30:54,254 - Yeah. - Great. 842 00:30:55,655 --> 00:30:57,558 This morning, Tyreek texted, 843 00:30:57,625 --> 00:31:00,227 "You can meet me at my place anytime." 844 00:31:00,294 --> 00:31:03,597 - Do you feel like the original fear that you had yesterday 845 00:31:03,664 --> 00:31:05,566 has kind of subsided a little bit? 846 00:31:05,632 --> 00:31:07,434 - Yeah. - I do think 847 00:31:07,501 --> 00:31:09,837 we should stay prepared for the possibility 848 00:31:09,903 --> 00:31:13,807 that Justin is somehow involved in this. 849 00:31:13,874 --> 00:31:15,275 - Yeah. 850 00:31:15,342 --> 00:31:16,977 - Okay. 851 00:31:17,044 --> 00:31:18,778 Here we are. 852 00:31:20,981 --> 00:31:22,215 Ready? 853 00:31:22,282 --> 00:31:23,416 - Positive vibes. 854 00:31:23,483 --> 00:31:25,385 - Let's see how this goes. 855 00:31:27,888 --> 00:31:28,922 - [bleep]. 856 00:31:28,989 --> 00:31:30,257 - Okay. 857 00:31:30,324 --> 00:31:33,794 [tense music] 858 00:31:33,861 --> 00:31:35,195 - Okay. 859 00:31:35,262 --> 00:31:38,265 ♪♪ ♪♪ 860 00:31:38,332 --> 00:31:39,733 [knocking at door] 861 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,301 We got to get him to come out. 862 00:31:42,169 --> 00:31:43,570 [doorbell chimes] 863 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:46,206 You see something? 864 00:31:46,273 --> 00:31:47,674 - I don't want to look. 865 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:52,412 - Hey. - [softly] Oh, my God. 866 00:31:52,479 --> 00:31:54,148 - Hello. - What's up, man? 867 00:31:54,214 --> 00:31:55,382 Nice to officially meet you. 868 00:31:55,448 --> 00:31:56,783 - Nice to meet you as well. 869 00:31:56,850 --> 00:31:57,951 - How's it going? 870 00:31:58,018 --> 00:32:00,454 - It's going pretty-- pretty okay. 871 00:32:00,521 --> 00:32:02,222 - Well, why don't you come on down, 872 00:32:02,289 --> 00:32:05,292 and we can finally make this happen? 873 00:32:05,358 --> 00:32:07,028 - Yeah. - This is Kamie. 874 00:32:07,094 --> 00:32:08,128 - Hello. - Kamie. 875 00:32:08,195 --> 00:32:09,363 Nice to meet you. 876 00:32:09,429 --> 00:32:10,898 - Nice to meet you as well. 877 00:32:10,965 --> 00:32:13,366 - And this is Kay. 878 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:15,569 - Hello. 879 00:32:15,636 --> 00:32:17,904 - Also shy and nervous. 880 00:32:17,971 --> 00:32:20,006 Are you feeling hopefully better today? 881 00:32:20,073 --> 00:32:22,009 - Yeah, definitely. 882 00:32:22,075 --> 00:32:25,679 - While Kay is sort of figuring out what she wants to say, 883 00:32:25,746 --> 00:32:27,648 is it cool if I ask you a couple of questions? 884 00:32:27,715 --> 00:32:29,349 - Yeah, of course. - Okay. 885 00:32:29,416 --> 00:32:31,218 Now that we're all seeing you, 886 00:32:31,285 --> 00:32:33,854 and you are who you've always 887 00:32:33,921 --> 00:32:36,256 sort of presented yourself to be, 888 00:32:36,323 --> 00:32:39,193 what was the reason that you had avoided video chatting 889 00:32:39,259 --> 00:32:40,761 with Kay the past two years? 890 00:32:40,828 --> 00:32:42,796 - Well, it kind of sounds silly, 891 00:32:42,862 --> 00:32:47,101 but I just don't really view myself 892 00:32:47,167 --> 00:32:50,037 in a very positive light, if that makes sense. 893 00:32:50,103 --> 00:32:52,473 Like, three, four years ago, 894 00:32:52,539 --> 00:32:54,774 I met this girl on a game I was playing. 895 00:32:54,841 --> 00:32:56,443 And then she was like, oh, I kind of want to-- 896 00:32:56,509 --> 00:32:57,711 I'd like to video chat you. 897 00:32:57,778 --> 00:33:00,147 And then after that, she was like, 898 00:33:00,213 --> 00:33:02,048 this just isn't gonna work. 899 00:33:02,115 --> 00:33:05,119 And then she kind of hanged up and blocked me after that. 900 00:33:05,185 --> 00:33:06,386 So I was just-- 901 00:33:06,453 --> 00:33:08,122 ever since then, I've just been-- 902 00:33:08,188 --> 00:33:10,624 - You know I'm not, like, a judgy person, so, 903 00:33:10,691 --> 00:33:13,227 like, why couldn't you just come out and say that? 904 00:33:14,061 --> 00:33:16,429 Like, I'm not gonna judge you off how you look. 905 00:33:16,496 --> 00:33:17,732 Because, like, looks aren't really important. 906 00:33:17,798 --> 00:33:19,599 It's more, like, about personality. 907 00:33:19,666 --> 00:33:22,102 - Yeah, I really should have, looking back on it. 908 00:33:22,169 --> 00:33:25,872 It's just, honestly, I just was really embarrassed about it. 909 00:33:25,939 --> 00:33:27,541 Every time it kind of came up, 910 00:33:27,607 --> 00:33:30,677 I walked around the question, sure. 911 00:33:30,744 --> 00:33:33,747 - Well, what about the time you ghosted her 912 00:33:33,814 --> 00:33:36,316 when she came to see you in the city? 913 00:33:36,383 --> 00:33:37,585 - Yeah. 914 00:33:37,651 --> 00:33:39,386 - Why did you lie about where you live? 915 00:33:39,453 --> 00:33:41,422 - Well, I never really specified 916 00:33:41,488 --> 00:33:42,889 about the whole thing. 917 00:33:42,956 --> 00:33:45,025 I said New York and then never really-- 918 00:33:45,092 --> 00:33:48,095 - No, you said Manhattan, which is the city. 919 00:33:48,162 --> 00:33:49,629 - Yeah. 920 00:33:49,696 --> 00:33:52,632 - Like, I live close enough to the city where it's like, 921 00:33:52,699 --> 00:33:54,602 if we had to meet up there, to keep it, 922 00:33:54,668 --> 00:33:56,570 you know, that idea going, then-- 923 00:33:56,637 --> 00:33:58,305 - Yet you couldn't even show up. 924 00:33:58,372 --> 00:33:59,607 - Well, right. 925 00:33:59,673 --> 00:34:01,542 So you did say you would meet her in the city, 926 00:34:01,608 --> 00:34:03,109 and then that didn't happen. 927 00:34:03,176 --> 00:34:04,511 Why? 928 00:34:04,578 --> 00:34:07,247 - Honestly, I was completely, like, ready to go. 929 00:34:07,314 --> 00:34:10,317 It's just like, I had, like, this gut feeling telling me, 930 00:34:10,383 --> 00:34:11,985 you should not go out there. 931 00:34:12,052 --> 00:34:13,887 Like, she'd be like, you know what? 932 00:34:13,954 --> 00:34:16,990 I don't really know what I saw in you in the first place 933 00:34:17,057 --> 00:34:18,825 kind of deal. 934 00:34:18,892 --> 00:34:20,660 - Like, you do realize I sat there 935 00:34:20,727 --> 00:34:22,396 for two hours waiting for you to [bleep] show up, 936 00:34:22,462 --> 00:34:23,863 but you didn't. 937 00:34:25,366 --> 00:34:26,933 - Yeah. 938 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,235 I'm sorry. 939 00:34:28,302 --> 00:34:30,637 - Okay, so what, if anything else, 940 00:34:30,704 --> 00:34:33,440 isn't true that Kay thinks she knows about you? 941 00:34:33,507 --> 00:34:35,309 - You're 18? - Yes. 942 00:34:35,376 --> 00:34:36,643 - Okay, so there's no one else 943 00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:38,078 that you're talking to - No. 944 00:34:38,145 --> 00:34:39,813 - Or that you've been dating or-- 945 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,617 - And Justin hasn't been involved in any of this, 946 00:34:43,683 --> 00:34:45,218 as far as talking to Kay? 947 00:34:45,285 --> 00:34:46,887 It's been you the whole time? 948 00:34:46,953 --> 00:34:48,488 - Yes. 949 00:34:48,555 --> 00:34:51,892 - So he genuinely just came all the way here to support you? 950 00:34:51,959 --> 00:34:53,226 - Yeah. 951 00:34:53,293 --> 00:34:55,295 - That's a good friend. Weird. 952 00:34:55,362 --> 00:34:58,665 He did some weird stuff to us, but I get it. 953 00:34:58,732 --> 00:35:00,066 He has your back. 954 00:35:00,133 --> 00:35:02,902 Well, if everything else is true, 955 00:35:02,969 --> 00:35:05,271 are your feelings for Kay true? 956 00:35:05,338 --> 00:35:07,574 Like, you broke up with her not that long ago. 957 00:35:07,641 --> 00:35:08,709 - Yeah, wait. Let's--yeah, wait. 958 00:35:08,776 --> 00:35:10,744 Why did you sort of out of nowhere 959 00:35:10,811 --> 00:35:13,980 call and say, hey, I think we need to break up? 960 00:35:14,047 --> 00:35:18,252 - So I had an opportunity to kind of reflect 961 00:35:18,318 --> 00:35:20,988 on how I've been, and I realized, like, 962 00:35:21,055 --> 00:35:23,758 she could honestly do a lot better than me. 963 00:35:23,824 --> 00:35:25,325 - So be better. 964 00:35:25,392 --> 00:35:26,861 That's all I can really tell you. 965 00:35:26,927 --> 00:35:28,229 If you think I can do better, like, 966 00:35:28,295 --> 00:35:30,197 try to make yourself be that person. 967 00:35:30,264 --> 00:35:32,365 [tense music] 968 00:35:32,432 --> 00:35:33,467 I'm sorry. 969 00:35:33,533 --> 00:35:35,236 I can't right now, like-- 970 00:35:35,302 --> 00:35:36,403 - You're doing a great job. 971 00:35:36,469 --> 00:35:38,705 - I can't. [sniffles] 972 00:35:40,006 --> 00:35:42,075 Can I go to the car, please? 973 00:35:42,142 --> 00:35:43,643 - Yeah. 974 00:35:43,710 --> 00:35:46,513 - [crying] 975 00:35:46,580 --> 00:35:53,720 ♪♪ ♪♪ 976 00:36:01,095 --> 00:36:04,064 [somber music] - [crying] 977 00:36:04,131 --> 00:36:07,201 ♪♪ ♪♪ 978 00:36:07,268 --> 00:36:09,469 - I'm sorry, but if you really love someone 979 00:36:09,536 --> 00:36:10,904 and you think they can do better-- 980 00:36:15,509 --> 00:36:19,246 - Honestly, I don't want to absolve him from anything, 981 00:36:19,312 --> 00:36:23,583 but I think he genuinely is very, very insecure 982 00:36:23,650 --> 00:36:27,788 and didn't know how to say that to you. 983 00:36:27,855 --> 00:36:30,090 Because what guy wants to admit that? 984 00:36:30,157 --> 00:36:32,326 - I'm not gonna judge you on how you look. 985 00:36:32,393 --> 00:36:35,496 Like, I don't care about any of that stuff. 986 00:36:35,562 --> 00:36:37,631 - I don't think you said anything wrong. 987 00:36:37,698 --> 00:36:40,000 I think she just has a lot of feelings that she's been 988 00:36:40,067 --> 00:36:42,136 waiting to express to you. 989 00:36:42,202 --> 00:36:44,004 But I get the sense that you really 990 00:36:44,070 --> 00:36:45,806 do have feelings for Kay. 991 00:36:45,873 --> 00:36:47,474 - 100%. 992 00:36:47,540 --> 00:36:50,611 - And seeing her now only sort of fortifies those feelings? 993 00:36:50,678 --> 00:36:52,179 - Yeah. 994 00:36:52,245 --> 00:36:55,449 I'm just disappointed in-- in me and how I've been acting. 995 00:36:55,516 --> 00:36:58,385 - Generally, if someone tells you 996 00:36:58,452 --> 00:37:00,187 that they're not good enough for you, 997 00:37:00,254 --> 00:37:02,323 you should believe them. 998 00:37:02,389 --> 00:37:05,960 But I think that his feelings about himself 999 00:37:06,026 --> 00:37:09,429 are what is making him come to that conclusion. 1000 00:37:09,496 --> 00:37:12,632 I think he just feels really low about himself. 1001 00:37:17,204 --> 00:37:18,973 - So let's do that. 1002 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,975 You want to? 1003 00:37:21,041 --> 00:37:23,077 Let's go. 1004 00:37:23,143 --> 00:37:26,046 [uplifting music] 1005 00:37:26,113 --> 00:37:28,382 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1006 00:37:28,448 --> 00:37:29,950 - Okay, I think they're coming back. 1007 00:37:31,952 --> 00:37:36,090 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1008 00:37:36,156 --> 00:37:39,360 - I know, like, you are insecure. 1009 00:37:39,426 --> 00:37:41,728 But, like, in my eyes, 1010 00:37:41,795 --> 00:37:44,865 you're, like, the perfect person. 1011 00:37:44,932 --> 00:37:48,435 I want to, like, be your safe haven. 1012 00:37:48,501 --> 00:37:51,138 I want you to, like, know I'm here for you, 1013 00:37:51,205 --> 00:37:52,973 like, anything you need. 1014 00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:58,311 I'm willing to work everything out with you if you're down. 1015 00:38:00,214 --> 00:38:01,882 - Of course I am. 1016 00:38:01,949 --> 00:38:04,184 You're the person that I want to be with. 1017 00:38:04,251 --> 00:38:07,087 And I'm really sorry for everything 1018 00:38:07,154 --> 00:38:08,789 that I've put you through. 1019 00:38:08,856 --> 00:38:10,223 - Can I get a hug? 1020 00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:15,061 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1021 00:38:16,797 --> 00:38:18,365 - Thank you. [giggling] 1022 00:38:18,432 --> 00:38:19,766 - You're welcome. 1023 00:38:20,867 --> 00:38:22,602 - Ahh. 1024 00:38:22,669 --> 00:38:24,137 Finally. 1025 00:38:24,204 --> 00:38:27,474 You guys want to head inside and sit down and chat a bit? 1026 00:38:27,541 --> 00:38:29,476 - That seems like a good idea, yeah. 1027 00:38:29,543 --> 00:38:31,011 - Let's do it. 1028 00:38:34,181 --> 00:38:36,116 - Thank you. 1029 00:38:36,183 --> 00:38:38,452 - Okay, how's everyone feeling? 1030 00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:41,722 - I honestly feel a little bit better. 1031 00:38:41,789 --> 00:38:43,857 - A little bit better? Really? 1032 00:38:43,924 --> 00:38:46,560 - It's just I still have a lot of work to do. 1033 00:38:46,626 --> 00:38:48,628 I know I've made a lot of mistakes. 1034 00:38:48,695 --> 00:38:52,799 And, you know, I've been not a very good partner, 1035 00:38:52,866 --> 00:38:55,335 communication-wise, telling the truth-wise. 1036 00:38:55,402 --> 00:38:59,840 But I promise I will be a better partner. 1037 00:39:00,608 --> 00:39:03,711 - I don't use the L word a lot with people. 1038 00:39:03,777 --> 00:39:05,613 Because I barely say it to, like, 1039 00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:07,915 family or friends as it is. 1040 00:39:07,981 --> 00:39:10,084 But, like, I love you. 1041 00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:11,351 - Aw. 1042 00:39:12,486 --> 00:39:13,954 I love you too. 1043 00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:15,288 - I know. 1044 00:39:15,355 --> 00:39:17,190 [laughing] 1045 00:39:17,257 --> 00:39:18,826 - Oh, wow. 1046 00:39:18,893 --> 00:39:20,461 - We're gonna let you guys hang out for a minute. 1047 00:39:20,527 --> 00:39:22,162 Take as long as you want. 1048 00:39:22,229 --> 00:39:23,964 - Okay. 1049 00:39:24,030 --> 00:39:25,365 Have fun. 1050 00:39:25,432 --> 00:39:27,567 Talk, Kay. 1051 00:39:27,634 --> 00:39:30,170 Say something. [laughter] 1052 00:39:30,237 --> 00:39:31,739 - I'm sorry. 1053 00:39:31,805 --> 00:39:37,311 I feel like a middle school girl right now. 1054 00:39:37,378 --> 00:39:39,679 I'm nervous. - Oh, man. 1055 00:39:39,746 --> 00:39:42,883 - ♪♪ Staying out late up on the West End ♪♪ 1056 00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:44,918 - Can I get a kiss? 1057 00:39:44,985 --> 00:39:46,086 - Of course. 1058 00:39:46,152 --> 00:39:47,288 Wait. 1059 00:39:47,354 --> 00:39:49,456 - Just shut up. 1060 00:39:49,523 --> 00:39:51,224 - Aw. - [giggles] 1061 00:39:51,291 --> 00:39:52,393 Come on. 1062 00:39:52,459 --> 00:39:54,461 - Okay, let's go outside. 1063 00:39:54,528 --> 00:39:57,097 - Oh, she's out. 1064 00:39:57,164 --> 00:40:00,334 What did you guys talk about for two whole seconds? 1065 00:40:00,401 --> 00:40:01,969 What did we miss? 1066 00:40:02,035 --> 00:40:03,670 - Nothing much. 1067 00:40:03,737 --> 00:40:05,406 - That's it? That's all the hanging out? 1068 00:40:05,473 --> 00:40:06,840 - What happened? Something happened. 1069 00:40:06,907 --> 00:40:07,808 What happened? 1070 00:40:07,875 --> 00:40:08,842 - Did you guys-- 1071 00:40:08,909 --> 00:40:10,043 - You kissed? 1072 00:40:10,110 --> 00:40:11,178 You kissed? - Maybe. 1073 00:40:11,245 --> 00:40:12,980 - Maybe. - Wow. 1074 00:40:13,047 --> 00:40:14,115 This is great. 1075 00:40:14,181 --> 00:40:15,249 - Are we feeling good? 1076 00:40:15,316 --> 00:40:16,483 - Yeah. 1077 00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:18,251 - I feel like I'm feeling pretty good. 1078 00:40:18,318 --> 00:40:19,686 - Great. 1079 00:40:19,753 --> 00:40:21,221 - I'm gonna hang out with him for a bit. 1080 00:40:21,288 --> 00:40:22,756 - Oh, you're gonna hang out more? 1081 00:40:22,823 --> 00:40:24,191 - Oh, you want-- oh, you're telling us to leave? 1082 00:40:24,257 --> 00:40:25,959 - You're telling us-- 1083 00:40:26,026 --> 00:40:27,394 oh. 1084 00:40:27,461 --> 00:40:28,762 All right, we're cool parents. We get it. 1085 00:40:28,829 --> 00:40:29,930 - Yeah. 1086 00:40:29,997 --> 00:40:31,565 - We'll leave and let you guys hang. 1087 00:40:31,631 --> 00:40:32,733 Good to meet you, man. - Very nice to meet you. 1088 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,635 - Good luck. - I'm happy for you. 1089 00:40:34,702 --> 00:40:36,770 - Just be yourself. - Got it. 1090 00:40:36,837 --> 00:40:38,238 - Thank you for the help. - Have fun. 1091 00:40:38,305 --> 00:40:39,640 - Good to meet you. 1092 00:40:39,706 --> 00:40:41,442 - Good to meet you too. - Bye, guys. 1093 00:40:41,509 --> 00:40:42,676 Drive safe. 1094 00:40:42,743 --> 00:40:44,811 - Don't do anything I wouldn't do. 1095 00:40:46,513 --> 00:40:48,381 This is the first time we've gotten kicked out. 1096 00:40:48,448 --> 00:40:50,884 - They just told us to peace out. 1097 00:40:50,951 --> 00:40:52,453 [laughter] 1098 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,620 They kissed, and then they were like, 1099 00:40:53,687 --> 00:40:55,356 we got to get rid of them. - Yeah. 1100 00:40:55,422 --> 00:40:56,957 - Got it. - That's so cute. 1101 00:40:57,024 --> 00:40:59,126 - That was so cute. 1102 00:40:59,192 --> 00:41:00,226 - Oh. 1103 00:41:00,293 --> 00:41:01,395 They're perfect for each other. 1104 00:41:01,462 --> 00:41:02,863 - They are. 1105 00:41:02,930 --> 00:41:05,298 - ♪♪ Everything that I'm looking for ♪♪ 1106 00:41:05,365 --> 00:41:06,600 ♪♪ Ay-oh ♪♪ 1107 00:41:06,667 --> 00:41:08,235 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1108 00:41:08,302 --> 00:41:11,538 ♪♪ I wanna, wanna go where you wanna go ♪♪ 1109 00:41:11,605 --> 00:41:13,039 ♪♪ Ay-oh ♪♪ 1110 00:41:17,544 --> 00:41:18,779 - Muhammad met Ashley on a dating app. 1111 00:41:18,846 --> 00:41:20,114 - We really hit it off. 1112 00:41:20,181 --> 00:41:21,015 It's been a breath of fresh air. 1113 00:41:21,082 --> 00:41:22,316 - This is weird. 1114 00:41:22,383 --> 00:41:23,750 What are the chances that the picture 1115 00:41:23,817 --> 00:41:24,885 is some beautiful woman? 1116 00:41:24,952 --> 00:41:26,052 - This can't be it. 1117 00:41:27,954 --> 00:41:29,724 - Where are we? 1118 00:41:29,790 --> 00:41:30,957 - You go first. 1119 00:41:31,024 --> 00:41:33,126 What the [bleep] is this place? 1120 00:41:33,193 --> 00:41:34,995 - Whoa! - Oh, my God. 1121 00:41:39,667 --> 00:41:42,536 [upbeat music] 1122 00:41:42,603 --> 00:41:49,743 ♪♪ ♪♪