1 00:00:00,700 --> 00:00:02,802             - ♪ MTV ♪            2 00:00:02,869 --> 00:00:05,672     - Arturo's been talking to      Laura for a couple of years.  3 00:00:05,739 --> 00:00:07,640  - I've opened up to her           about so many things           4 00:00:07,707 --> 00:00:09,275    that I haven't with anyone.   5 00:00:15,815 --> 00:00:17,050    - Drugged?                     - Wha?                          6 00:00:17,117 --> 00:00:18,918   - I feel like this is            gonna get a lot worse          7 00:00:18,985 --> 00:00:20,453  before it gets better.          8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,656    - Do you remember this girl    being here last night?          9 00:00:23,723 --> 00:00:25,258  I need to talk to Nev.          10 00:00:25,325 --> 00:00:27,360 - That looks like                 a [bleep] ransom note.          11 00:00:27,427 --> 00:00:29,229 - Hello?                         12 00:00:29,295 --> 00:00:31,865  [dramatic musical sting]        13 00:00:31,931 --> 00:00:33,366   - Under construction.          14 00:00:33,433 --> 00:00:34,801   Our office is                     under construction.           15 00:00:34,868 --> 00:00:36,803   Do not enter.                  16 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:38,304   Okay.                          17 00:00:38,371 --> 00:00:39,672   What does this mean?           18 00:00:39,739 --> 00:00:41,908   [upbeat music]                 19 00:00:41,975 --> 00:00:44,511  [gasps]                         Oh, wow.                         20 00:00:44,577 --> 00:00:46,112  - Whoa!                         21 00:00:46,179 --> 00:00:47,781 - We got drapes?                  Oh, look at the poster!         22 00:00:47,847 --> 00:00:50,016   - Holy moly!                   23 00:00:50,083 --> 00:00:52,719 Look at the map!                   - Oh, it's so pretty.          24 00:00:52,786 --> 00:00:54,454    - We finally got a new map.   25 00:00:54,521 --> 00:00:56,356  It has even lighting behind it.   Look at this.                  26 00:00:56,423 --> 00:00:57,957 It's got little lighting,        27 00:00:58,024 --> 00:01:00,593  all the pins and places            we've been.                   28 00:01:00,660 --> 00:01:01,995  - This is fire.                 29 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:04,197   - You guys made this?           - Aww!                          30 00:01:04,264 --> 00:01:05,865    I love it.                    31 00:01:05,932 --> 00:01:06,866 Thank you, guys.                 32 00:01:06,933 --> 00:01:08,001    This is beautiful.            33 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:09,636    I love it.                    34 00:01:09,702 --> 00:01:10,737   - Thank you.                   35 00:01:12,639 --> 00:01:13,540    - Gorgeous.                   36 00:01:14,374 --> 00:01:15,542    - Yeah, of course.            37 00:01:15,608 --> 00:01:17,210 We really do need                 to get a Kamie.                 38 00:01:17,277 --> 00:01:18,711  Well, there is                     something in here.            39 00:01:18,778 --> 00:01:20,080    - Oh, God.                    [laughs]                         40 00:01:20,146 --> 00:01:21,514    What is it?                   41 00:01:21,581 --> 00:01:24,017  - Come on. No.                    - What is it?                  42 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:27,587  - I just said we need a Kamie,    and there's a Kamie in there.  43 00:01:27,654 --> 00:01:29,956    You are inside me.            44 00:01:30,023 --> 00:01:31,925   - What? Aww.                   45 00:01:31,991 --> 00:01:33,159  And I have a red flag.          46 00:01:33,226 --> 00:01:34,260 And I have boobs.                47 00:01:34,327 --> 00:01:35,795   - Oh, my God.                  48 00:01:35,862 --> 00:01:37,097   - I love her.                  49 00:01:37,163 --> 00:01:39,332   - Cute. Back to work.          50 00:01:39,399 --> 00:01:40,967  - We got an email here            from Arturo.                   51 00:01:41,034 --> 00:01:44,003    The subject, "Am I the butt    of another joke?                52 00:01:44,070 --> 00:01:45,105    "Hey, Nev and Kamie.          53 00:01:45,171 --> 00:01:47,507    "My name is Arturo, he/him.   54 00:01:47,574 --> 00:01:51,311     I'm 28 years old, and I'm      from Los Angeles, California." 55 00:01:51,377 --> 00:01:53,480   - ♪ I ain't the jealous type ♪ 56 00:01:53,546 --> 00:01:56,382   - "I met someone back            in 2021 on Instagram,          57 00:01:56,449 --> 00:01:59,953  and I asked her to be exclusive   in January of 2023."           58 00:02:00,019 --> 00:02:01,054 - What took him so long?         59 00:02:01,121 --> 00:02:02,522   - "Her name is Laura.          60 00:02:02,589 --> 00:02:06,059     She's 21 and lives            in Desert Hot Springs."         61 00:02:06,126 --> 00:02:08,161    - ♪ I know that you want it,      so let's get it ♪            62 00:02:08,228 --> 00:02:10,263   - Well, that's close.          - Mm-hmm.                        63 00:02:10,330 --> 00:02:11,831 - "When we first                 started talking,                 64 00:02:11,898 --> 00:02:13,833   "I didn't think I would start   an online relationship.         65 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:17,203    "But we have a lot in common    when it comes to music, food,  66 00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:18,872     and, well, a good             sense of humor."                67 00:02:18,938 --> 00:02:21,274  - ♪ I'll be here                    waiting for you ♪            68 00:02:21,341 --> 00:02:23,443     ♪ Go ahead, baby,             do your thing ♪                 69 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:25,345 - "What I love about her           is how blunt she is.           70 00:02:25,411 --> 00:02:27,514   She will say                     everything as it is."          71 00:02:27,580 --> 00:02:29,682     - ♪ Do your thing,            do your thing ♪                 72 00:02:29,749 --> 00:02:31,718    ♪ ♪                           73 00:02:31,784 --> 00:02:33,653  - "I feel like                   we have a special bond,         74 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,722 "and she makes me                   feel a certain way            75 00:02:35,788 --> 00:02:38,191   "that I haven't felt             in such a long time.           76 00:02:38,258 --> 00:02:41,961    ♪ ♪                           77 00:02:42,028 --> 00:02:44,497     "When she says I love you,   78 00:02:44,564 --> 00:02:47,333    "I feel like I could            bounce off the walls.          79 00:02:51,204 --> 00:02:53,806  The problem"--                   - Mm...                         80 00:02:53,873 --> 00:02:56,409    - "The problem is,            81 00:02:56,476 --> 00:03:01,881    "she refuses                    to voice message, phone call,  82 00:03:01,948 --> 00:03:03,616  FaceTime, or hang out."         83 00:03:03,683 --> 00:03:05,151  - So what does she do?           - Yeah.                         84 00:03:05,218 --> 00:03:06,786   So what--how do you--          85 00:03:06,853 --> 00:03:08,354  yeah, I guess.                  86 00:03:08,421 --> 00:03:11,191   "It's made me a bit frustrated    because it's been ten months  87 00:03:11,257 --> 00:03:13,693    "since we became exclusive,       and I'm starting to think    88 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,328 "that the person                    behind the account            89 00:03:15,395 --> 00:03:17,263   "is not who she says she is.   90 00:03:17,330 --> 00:03:19,098    "I'm hoping you can               help me figure out           91 00:03:19,165 --> 00:03:20,733  "if this person is real         92 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,271     "or if it's just some sick     joke and I'm being catfished.  93 00:03:25,338 --> 00:03:30,009    Hope to hear                   from you soon, Arturo."         94 00:03:30,076 --> 00:03:34,113  - We need to call Arturo so we   can get him and Laura together. 95 00:03:34,180 --> 00:03:35,181   - All right.                   96 00:03:35,248 --> 00:03:37,183 I'm ready to see                  what we can do.                 97 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:39,385   [line trills]                  98 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,855 - Hello, Arturo.                 99 00:03:42,922 --> 00:03:44,524    It's Nev and Kamie.           100 00:03:57,203 --> 00:03:58,538    - Drugged?                     - Wha?                          101 00:04:02,508 --> 00:04:04,711  - What was her reaction           when you mentioned "Catfish"?  102 00:04:09,716 --> 00:04:10,783 - Arturo.                        103 00:04:10,850 --> 00:04:12,952 - Did you tell her, hey,         I got this weird                 104 00:04:13,019 --> 00:04:14,354  phone call last night?          105 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:20,093 - So things are obviously          heating up behind the scenes.  106 00:04:20,159 --> 00:04:21,227   Something's going on.          107 00:04:22,228 --> 00:04:23,329 - Listen, Arturo.                108 00:04:23,896 --> 00:04:25,932    - Where do you live            in Los Angeles?                 109 00:04:28,201 --> 00:04:29,402   - Oh.                            Text me your address.          110 00:04:29,469 --> 00:04:30,837 Sit tight, and we'll just         head over there                 111 00:04:30,903 --> 00:04:32,572 right now                         because it's so close.          112 00:04:33,673 --> 00:04:34,841 - All right, man.                   We'll see you soon.           113 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:37,343   - All right.                   - See ya.                        114 00:04:38,177 --> 00:04:39,579    - Let's go.                   115 00:04:39,646 --> 00:04:43,116  - ♪ Be the one you love,          one you love ♪                 116 00:04:43,182 --> 00:04:45,518    ♪ Could I be the one              you love ♪                   117 00:04:45,585 --> 00:04:46,886  - Can't believe                    how close he lives.           118 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:49,389    - I can't believe how close    Laura lives to Arturo,          119 00:04:49,455 --> 00:04:50,490    and he hasn't met her yet.    120 00:04:50,556 --> 00:04:51,991 And they've been talking          for two years?                  121 00:04:52,058 --> 00:04:53,226  - Yeah.                           - No.                          122 00:04:53,293 --> 00:04:54,260  Absolutely not.                 123 00:04:54,327 --> 00:04:56,896   [upbeat music]                 124 00:04:56,963 --> 00:04:59,799   - ♪ Could I be                     the one you love ♪           125 00:04:59,866 --> 00:05:01,534   - We made it.                  126 00:05:08,174 --> 00:05:09,275   Hey.                            - Hey.                          127 00:05:09,342 --> 00:05:10,677  - Hey.                          - What's up, man?                128 00:05:10,743 --> 00:05:12,378 - How you doing?                   - Hey, this is Kamie.          129 00:05:12,445 --> 00:05:13,946  - Hi. Nice to meet you.         130 00:05:14,013 --> 00:05:15,948    - Nice to meet you.            - Thanks for having us.         131 00:05:16,015 --> 00:05:17,850    - Thank you for responding      to my email.                   132 00:05:17,917 --> 00:05:20,453 I appreciate it.                  - Oh, for sure.                 133 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,655    What's up?                     Tell us about yourself.         134 00:05:22,722 --> 00:05:24,157   Forget the whole Laura thing     for a minute.                  135 00:05:24,223 --> 00:05:25,792   We're just kind of curious to    get to know you a little bit.  136 00:05:25,858 --> 00:05:27,794 - Tell us about yourself.          - Me?                          137 00:05:27,860 --> 00:05:31,764 I love being in any kind         of creative environment.         138 00:05:31,831 --> 00:05:35,368  So I do background work          on music videos                 139 00:05:35,435 --> 00:05:36,836 or commercials right now.        140 00:05:36,903 --> 00:05:38,237  - Film, video.                  141 00:05:38,304 --> 00:05:39,539 - Music.                         - Music.                         142 00:05:39,605 --> 00:05:40,873  - Yeah.                          - That's cool.                  143 00:05:40,940 --> 00:05:42,508    All right.                    And do you have siblings?        144 00:05:42,575 --> 00:05:44,243    - I have a brother              and a sister.                  145 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:49,248   - Do any of your siblings or     your family know about Laura?  146 00:05:49,315 --> 00:05:51,751   - [chuckles]                      No.                           147 00:05:51,818 --> 00:05:56,122    I told one friend, and her      immediate reaction was, like,  148 00:05:56,189 --> 00:05:58,725  it's a 50-year-old man,         149 00:05:58,791 --> 00:06:01,761   which is why after ten months  150 00:06:01,828 --> 00:06:04,063  I decided to reach out          to y'all.                        151 00:06:04,130 --> 00:06:06,432 - So it's been ten months           of you guys being serious.    152 00:06:06,499 --> 00:06:07,800  - Yes.                          153 00:06:07,867 --> 00:06:12,004  And it's been two years         of me knowing her online.        154 00:06:12,071 --> 00:06:13,973 - Which is wild.                  - Yeah.                         155 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,342  - Give us the backstory         and sort of get the whole        156 00:06:16,409 --> 00:06:18,111  origin story of you and Laura.  157 00:06:18,177 --> 00:06:21,247 - Yeah, um, I go to a lot          of, like, fan events,          158 00:06:21,314 --> 00:06:23,649  like meet and greets, concerts, 159 00:06:23,716 --> 00:06:25,551     and obviously get             a chance to meet                160 00:06:25,618 --> 00:06:27,420   a bunch of, like, celebrities. 161 00:06:27,487 --> 00:06:29,922   So I get a picture with them,     and then she comes in like,   162 00:06:29,989 --> 00:06:32,291   oh, my God, I love this person  so much.                        163 00:06:32,358 --> 00:06:35,461 And my account is public,          so that's how                  164 00:06:35,528 --> 00:06:37,096   she was able                      to come across the pictures   165 00:06:37,163 --> 00:06:38,631    one way or another.           166 00:06:38,698 --> 00:06:40,433    - So she comments.            167 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:41,934  - Yes.                           - And does she DM you?          168 00:06:42,001 --> 00:06:45,872   - She reached out to me in a    DM like, hey, you're so lucky.  169 00:06:45,938 --> 00:06:48,241  How are you able                 to meet so many people?         170 00:06:48,307 --> 00:06:50,309  - And you probably get messages  like that all the time          171 00:06:50,376 --> 00:06:51,344  when you post pictures          with celebrities.                172 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:52,645  - Yeah.                         173 00:06:52,712 --> 00:06:53,913 With everyone else, after        they get the information,        174 00:06:53,980 --> 00:06:56,149   they'll just leave you alone.  - Right.                         175 00:06:56,215 --> 00:06:58,451   - With her, the conversation   just didn't end.                 176 00:06:58,518 --> 00:07:01,721    She would ask me stuff about   me, like how we grew up,        177 00:07:01,788 --> 00:07:03,423   things we went through             in school,                   178 00:07:03,489 --> 00:07:05,458     things that made us upset.   179 00:07:05,525 --> 00:07:07,160  Started flowing.                180 00:07:07,226 --> 00:07:09,462  - Was there anything in           particular that either of you  181 00:07:09,529 --> 00:07:11,964 mentioned that resonated?        182 00:07:12,031 --> 00:07:15,435   - Bullying in school           growing up, yeah.                183 00:07:15,501 --> 00:07:18,638   Because I was short, so it's     like, pick on the short guy.   184 00:07:18,704 --> 00:07:21,874  I was a $40 bet in high school. 185 00:07:21,941 --> 00:07:25,211 So someone just dated me          because they gave her 40 bucks. 186 00:07:25,278 --> 00:07:26,612  - What?                          - Yeah.                         187 00:07:26,679 --> 00:07:30,349    It was some really bad joke      they played on me.            188 00:07:30,416 --> 00:07:32,852   And it just seems like            Laura doesn't care.           189 00:07:32,919 --> 00:07:35,221     I told her I'm 5'4", like,       I'm short.                   190 00:07:35,288 --> 00:07:36,856  It's like, I don't care.        191 00:07:36,923 --> 00:07:38,958  That was something that caught   my attention from her as well.  192 00:07:39,025 --> 00:07:41,461 And I've opened up to her          about so many things           193 00:07:41,527 --> 00:07:44,964    that I haven't with anyone     in a long time.                 194 00:07:45,031 --> 00:07:47,867   - All right,                   so you and Laura decide,         195 00:07:47,934 --> 00:07:50,703  we're gonna make this official, 196 00:07:50,770 --> 00:07:52,171 and you both start saying           I love you?                   197 00:07:52,238 --> 00:07:53,906   - Yeah, yeah.                  198 00:07:53,973 --> 00:07:56,609  - And at that point, I imagine     you're sort of next thought   199 00:07:56,676 --> 00:07:58,277 was, okay, great.                  When are we meeting?           200 00:07:58,344 --> 00:07:59,378  - Yeah.                         201 00:07:59,445 --> 00:08:00,546     We made the plan.            202 00:08:00,613 --> 00:08:01,948    She said, okay, certain day,  203 00:08:02,014 --> 00:08:03,883   I'll be there                      at a certain time.           204 00:08:03,950 --> 00:08:06,352   But then the day came,           it's like, hey, you know what? 205 00:08:06,419 --> 00:08:07,787     They called me into work.    206 00:08:07,854 --> 00:08:09,322    - So you were ready              to drive out there.           207 00:08:09,388 --> 00:08:10,857  - Yeah.                         208 00:08:10,923 --> 00:08:13,860   It's very frustrating because   once it's the year mark         209 00:08:13,926 --> 00:08:15,895 and you don't see                  the person, you're just like,  210 00:08:15,962 --> 00:08:18,297  something's up.                 - Right.                         211 00:08:18,364 --> 00:08:20,566 - And these messages are          happening on Instagram?         212 00:08:20,633 --> 00:08:21,934  - Yeah.                         213 00:08:22,001 --> 00:08:24,337    I have her number,              but she just chooses           214 00:08:24,403 --> 00:08:28,007  to communicate                     through Instagram.            215 00:08:29,175 --> 00:08:30,743  - And what's her excuse          [lfor not being able            216 00:08:30,810 --> 00:08:32,378  to get on a phone call?         217 00:08:32,445 --> 00:08:35,147    - She says, my voice             feels kind of weird.          218 00:08:35,214 --> 00:08:38,784   I don't like my voice.           I don't really like my voice.  219 00:08:38,851 --> 00:08:41,787  - Does she post stories         or videos of her?                220 00:08:41,854 --> 00:08:44,390    - She does,                    but it's never talking.         221 00:08:44,457 --> 00:08:47,226     It's always very filtered,      and it looks grainy.          222 00:08:47,293 --> 00:08:50,496    - And does she have people      following her or commenting,   223 00:08:50,563 --> 00:08:51,831    or is she tagging friends?    224 00:08:51,898 --> 00:08:53,499    - She doesn't have            pictures posted.                 225 00:08:53,566 --> 00:08:55,635 That's the thing.                 - What?                         226 00:08:55,701 --> 00:08:57,270   - She just posts them            on her story.                  227 00:08:57,336 --> 00:08:59,472    - She doesn't have            any pictures on her feed?        228 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:02,141 - Mm-mm.                         - Arturo.                        229 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:04,777 - Has there been                    any other kind of exchange,   230 00:09:04,844 --> 00:09:08,180    like money back and forth?    231 00:09:08,247 --> 00:09:09,549 - Say no.                        232 00:09:09,615 --> 00:09:12,585    - I have DoorDashed            her food a lot.                 233 00:09:12,652 --> 00:09:14,520  - Is she broke?                 234 00:09:14,587 --> 00:09:15,888    - I mean, she works, so no.   235 00:09:15,955 --> 00:09:18,424  - Okay, and so are you             having it delivered           236 00:09:18,491 --> 00:09:19,625   or sending her money             to get food?                   237 00:09:19,692 --> 00:09:20,860   - Delivered.                   238 00:09:20,927 --> 00:09:22,795  both: So you have her address.   - I do.                         239 00:09:22,862 --> 00:09:25,264    And I've actually looked up     the address as well.           240 00:09:25,331 --> 00:09:28,301   It's a house.                  241 00:09:28,367 --> 00:09:29,902    I've thought about              showing up, actually.          242 00:09:29,969 --> 00:09:31,504    I've just be like,             you know what?                  243 00:09:31,571 --> 00:09:33,039   Hey, I'm outside your place.   244 00:09:33,105 --> 00:09:35,942 But I'm just scared that           if I go, I'm not coming back   245 00:09:36,008 --> 00:09:38,711    if the situation goes bad.      - Mm.                          246 00:09:38,778 --> 00:09:42,014 Yesterday, you get a call           from some anonymous number.   247 00:09:42,081 --> 00:09:44,083   They said, back off.              Don't call.                   248 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:45,518 - Yeah, that kind                   of freaked me out.            249 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:47,219   - What did they say exactly?   250 00:09:47,286 --> 00:09:53,192    - We don't want her exposed   to being drugged                 251 00:09:53,259 --> 00:09:55,227 and taken somewhere else         252 00:09:55,294 --> 00:09:58,698   or exposing her to something    that she's not                  253 00:09:58,764 --> 00:10:01,000   comfortable sharing with you.  254 00:10:01,067 --> 00:10:02,168  - What?                         255 00:10:02,234 --> 00:10:03,803    - I'm like, I could              not get a word in.            256 00:10:03,869 --> 00:10:05,371  - So whoever called you           yesterday was angry.           257 00:10:05,438 --> 00:10:06,706  - Yes.                          258 00:10:06,772 --> 00:10:07,907    - We gotta figure this out.   259 00:10:07,974 --> 00:10:09,108  I need to see pictures.          - Yeah.                         260 00:10:09,175 --> 00:10:10,276    - You're more than welcome     to take a look.                 261 00:10:11,377 --> 00:10:12,612    All right, you got             -a whole folder here..          262 00:10:12,678 --> 00:10:13,613  - I got a whole                   folder just for her.           263 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,414    - Oh, okay.                   - Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.                264 00:10:15,481 --> 00:10:16,616  - Cute.                         265 00:10:16,682 --> 00:10:18,217  - Yeah, it's a filter.          266 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:19,452  - Yeah.                         267 00:10:19,518 --> 00:10:20,519    - Heavily filtered.           268 00:10:20,586 --> 00:10:21,520  - Yeah.                         - Mm-hmm.                        269 00:10:21,587 --> 00:10:22,855  - Yeah.                         270 00:10:22,922 --> 00:10:24,023  I mean,                           she's definitely attractive.   271 00:10:24,090 --> 00:10:26,125   But then why not video chat?   272 00:10:26,192 --> 00:10:27,593  It's so weird.                  273 00:10:27,660 --> 00:10:29,495    - I wanna see the messages.   274 00:10:29,562 --> 00:10:31,897 Can you give me some food          on DoorDash?                   275 00:10:31,964 --> 00:10:33,299  You said, sure.                 What do you want?                276 00:10:33,366 --> 00:10:35,401   McDonald's, two cheeseburgers     with fries.                   277 00:10:35,468 --> 00:10:37,770   - And then she said,             you got the address already.   278 00:10:37,837 --> 00:10:39,338  Or do I have to tell you again? 279 00:10:39,405 --> 00:10:41,007  - What time is the food           gonna be here                  280 00:10:41,073 --> 00:10:42,708 so I can have my light on        for them?                        281 00:10:42,775 --> 00:10:43,943   - Wow. Okay.                   282 00:10:44,010 --> 00:10:46,245   I mean, that's--I mean, look.  283 00:10:46,312 --> 00:10:48,648 - I don't know how I feel        about this relationship.         284 00:10:48,714 --> 00:10:51,250  It feels like she's using you.  285 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:54,086    You mentioned in the email,    I don't wanna be another joke.  286 00:10:54,153 --> 00:10:55,788 - Right.                         287 00:10:55,855 --> 00:10:58,124   That's the whole $40             in high school thing.          288 00:10:58,190 --> 00:10:59,692  - The $40 bit.                   - Yeah.                         289 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:02,294   So I was like, I'm not trying     to be anyone's joke again.    290 00:11:02,361 --> 00:11:04,296 - Mm-hmm.                          - All right.                   291 00:11:04,363 --> 00:11:07,533    So I think, as much             as I hate to say it,           292 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:13,172    it does sound like Laura is      hiding something from you.    293 00:11:13,239 --> 00:11:14,807 - Right.                         294 00:11:14,874 --> 00:11:16,308    - You haven't heard            her voice on the phone.         295 00:11:16,375 --> 00:11:17,877    Could be because her voice    296 00:11:17,943 --> 00:11:20,012   doesn't sound                     like a young lady.            297 00:11:20,079 --> 00:11:23,182 - Or it could be somebody          that you know                  298 00:11:23,249 --> 00:11:25,084   whose voice you would             recognize.                    299 00:11:25,151 --> 00:11:27,720   - So we gotta figure it out.   300 00:11:27,787 --> 00:11:28,921  Send us all the stuff you have. 301 00:11:28,988 --> 00:11:31,323  We'll do some research            and hopefully                  302 00:11:31,390 --> 00:11:32,525    have some answers for you.    303 00:11:32,591 --> 00:11:34,160  - Okay.                         - All right, man.                304 00:11:34,226 --> 00:11:35,461   - Thank you so much.             - Great to meet you.           305 00:11:35,528 --> 00:11:36,896    - Good to meet you.           306 00:11:36,962 --> 00:11:38,097    - Good to meet you, Arturo.    - Good to meet you too.         307 00:11:38,164 --> 00:11:39,365 Thank you so much                 for everything.                 308 00:11:39,432 --> 00:11:40,332   - Of course.                   309 00:11:42,368 --> 00:11:43,302  - Wow.                          310 00:11:43,369 --> 00:11:44,503    - You wanna say it,             or should I?                   311 00:11:44,570 --> 00:11:46,706   Arturo is getting catfished.   312 00:11:46,772 --> 00:11:48,441    The girl is catfishing him       so she can                    313 00:11:48,507 --> 00:11:49,508    get money for Burger King.    314 00:11:49,575 --> 00:11:50,910  - Yeah.                         315 00:11:50,976 --> 00:11:52,178  I think that's probably         what's happening.                316 00:11:52,244 --> 00:11:56,282    I just feel                     so sorry for Arturo.           317 00:11:57,750 --> 00:12:02,421    - I think his fears of this    being some big joke to somebody 318 00:12:02,488 --> 00:12:04,457   are very, very real.           319 00:12:04,523 --> 00:12:07,927    And I feel like this           is gonna get a lot worse        320 00:12:07,993 --> 00:12:09,395   before it gets better.         321 00:12:12,798 --> 00:12:14,100 - Ready?                         322 00:12:14,166 --> 00:12:16,836 We're gonna crack                 this case open.                 323 00:12:16,902 --> 00:12:18,738   - One minute, please.          324 00:12:18,804 --> 00:12:21,741    - Well, while you hydrate--   325 00:12:21,807 --> 00:12:24,510  - Whoo!                         326 00:12:24,577 --> 00:12:25,878    I'm ready.                    327 00:12:25,945 --> 00:12:27,480  - Wow.                             - Recap me.                   328 00:12:27,546 --> 00:12:29,014  - Stuff hits quick. All right.  329 00:12:29,081 --> 00:12:31,050     Arturo, sweet guy.           330 00:12:31,117 --> 00:12:32,752   He loves to go                   to concerts and shows.         331 00:12:33,719 --> 00:12:35,054    that he looks up to             and admires. meet the people   332 00:12:35,121 --> 00:12:36,822   Laura comments                    on a picture of him.          333 00:12:36,889 --> 00:12:39,225    They keep chatting.            She's interested in him.        334 00:12:39,291 --> 00:12:41,660   Arturo keeps saying,            we should get together.         335 00:12:41,727 --> 00:12:43,496   She keeps saying she's busy.   336 00:12:43,562 --> 00:12:45,331   She doesn't wanna get            on the phone                   337 00:12:45,397 --> 00:12:47,166  because she's insecure          about her voice.                 338 00:12:47,233 --> 00:12:50,536 She also asks him                to send her food.                339 00:12:50,603 --> 00:12:53,305 - Mm-hmm.                           - And then out of nowhere,    340 00:12:53,372 --> 00:12:56,108    some guy calls him,              basically just yells at him   341 00:12:56,175 --> 00:12:58,077  and says, don't call "Catfish." 342 00:12:58,144 --> 00:12:59,612   Laura, something she            isn't ready to tell you         343 00:12:59,678 --> 00:13:02,414  or may never tell you,           and let it go.                  344 00:13:02,481 --> 00:13:03,783  Click.                          345 00:13:03,849 --> 00:13:06,152  Bottom line is, Arturo has been    talking to someone            346 00:13:06,218 --> 00:13:07,887   who is avoiding him.            - Yeah.                         347 00:13:07,953 --> 00:13:11,190   - Even if Laura isn't lying,   348 00:13:11,257 --> 00:13:13,559    this relationship could be     majorly flawed.                 349 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:14,560    All right.                    350 00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:16,228   Let's read this email            from Arturo.                   351 00:13:16,295 --> 00:13:18,097 It says, info for Laura.         352 00:13:18,164 --> 00:13:19,331    "Hey, guys.                   353 00:13:19,398 --> 00:13:20,733    "Here's everything               I know about Laura.           354 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,134   "She's 21 years old.           355 00:13:22,201 --> 00:13:25,304 Her full name is                  Laura Nicole [bleep]."          356 00:13:25,371 --> 00:13:26,739   - That's--I mean, he got her   first, middle, and last.         357 00:13:27,973 --> 00:13:31,343  "The address I Uber her          -to/from is this one.".         358 00:13:31,410 --> 00:13:33,612    No, wait a second.             There's two addresses.          359 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,748  "So the address                    I Uber her to/from            360 00:13:35,815 --> 00:13:37,183    is this one                    in Desert Hot Springs."         361 00:13:37,249 --> 00:13:38,717  - He didn't say                   anything about that.           362 00:13:38,784 --> 00:13:40,219    - "And the one she gave me     to send food to                 363 00:13:40,286 --> 00:13:41,687   the other day was this one."   364 00:13:41,754 --> 00:13:44,824  I wonder how many times         he's sent her Uber rides.        365 00:13:44,890 --> 00:13:46,292   - Who knows?                   366 00:13:46,358 --> 00:13:49,094    - Maybe he was embarrassed    to tell us that?                 367 00:13:49,161 --> 00:13:50,496 "I have her phone number.        368 00:13:50,563 --> 00:13:52,998   Here's her Instagram              and her Facebook."            369 00:13:53,065 --> 00:13:54,567 Oh, okay.                         "And pics are attached.         370 00:13:54,633 --> 00:13:55,734 "Let me know if you need          anything else.                  371 00:13:55,801 --> 00:13:57,469    Good luck, Arturo."           372 00:13:57,536 --> 00:14:00,005 All right, well,                  let's save these pics.          373 00:14:00,072 --> 00:14:01,340  Where should we start?          374 00:14:01,407 --> 00:14:02,808   - Maybe the pictures.          375 00:14:02,875 --> 00:14:04,376  I don't feel like they're gonna come back with anything.         376 00:14:04,443 --> 00:14:05,644   - All right, you wanna start      with the pictures?            377 00:14:05,711 --> 00:14:07,046  - So maybe just                 get rid of them.                 378 00:14:07,112 --> 00:14:08,247    - She's very good looking.    379 00:14:08,314 --> 00:14:10,149    Do you think maybe              she's an influencer?           380 00:14:10,216 --> 00:14:11,550  Let's just take                 a bunch of these pictures        381 00:14:11,617 --> 00:14:13,018 and drag them in,                  and see what happens.          382 00:14:13,085 --> 00:14:15,087  These pictures are so filtered. 383 00:14:15,154 --> 00:14:18,691    But let's just see              if we find something.          384 00:14:18,757 --> 00:14:20,459   Ooh. Oh. Ooh.                  385 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:22,962  Oh, wait a second. Mm.           - Mm...                         386 00:14:23,028 --> 00:14:25,130  - I don't know. Close.           - Yeah.                         387 00:14:25,197 --> 00:14:26,699  - All right, so nothing         on the pictures.                 388 00:14:26,765 --> 00:14:30,035    Let's go to the Instagram,      just to take a peek.           389 00:14:30,102 --> 00:14:31,337    - No posts.                   390 00:14:31,403 --> 00:14:33,205  She wasn't tagged in anything.  391 00:14:33,272 --> 00:14:35,774 - She's following                a lot of people.                 392 00:14:35,841 --> 00:14:37,209 Oh! Whoa!                         - Whoa!                         393 00:14:37,276 --> 00:14:40,512   - Whoa! Whoa!                  394 00:14:40,579 --> 00:14:41,947    - I don't like it.             - Wow.                          395 00:14:42,014 --> 00:14:43,249    - I don't like it.            396 00:14:43,315 --> 00:14:46,485  - She is following Max,         me, you,                         397 00:14:46,552 --> 00:14:49,221    and "Catfish" on Instagram.   398 00:14:49,288 --> 00:14:51,123    [suspenseful music]           399 00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:52,224   She's a fan.                   400 00:14:52,291 --> 00:14:53,726  - Well, great.                     - [laughs]                    401 00:14:53,792 --> 00:14:55,995  That's what's even more          interesting, is that she had--  402 00:14:56,061 --> 00:14:59,164  or someone had such an           adverse reaction when he said,  403 00:14:59,231 --> 00:15:00,633   I'm writing in to "Catfish."   - Right.                         404 00:15:00,699 --> 00:15:02,067    - Because she knows            the show clearly well.          405 00:15:02,134 --> 00:15:04,470   - Maybe when Arturo told her   that he was reaching out,        406 00:15:04,536 --> 00:15:06,038   that's when she followed us.   407 00:15:06,105 --> 00:15:08,007   This is just                      a little suspicious           408 00:15:08,073 --> 00:15:09,642  considering the circumstances.  409 00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:11,110  - Okay.                         410 00:15:11,176 --> 00:15:13,212   Let's check out this Facebook   because he didn't mention that. 411 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:14,914 I mean, she's got                a Facebook page.                 412 00:15:14,980 --> 00:15:17,816   Went to [bleep] High School,     lives in Desert Hot Springs,   413 00:15:17,883 --> 00:15:18,918    from Moreno Valley.           414 00:15:18,984 --> 00:15:21,520    Recent profile pic update.    415 00:15:21,587 --> 00:15:23,789 Oh, she posted something           from Arturo.                   416 00:15:23,856 --> 00:15:25,791   Look at this.                     - Ah! He met Selena Gomez.    417 00:15:25,858 --> 00:15:27,493   - Oh, my God.                  418 00:15:27,559 --> 00:15:28,460  Listen.                         419 00:15:28,527 --> 00:15:30,229     - Hi, Laura. It's Selena.    420 00:15:30,296 --> 00:15:32,798   We wanted to say we love you.  421 00:15:32,865 --> 00:15:37,803  - He met Selena Gomez, and with   his one tiny moment with her,  422 00:15:37,870 --> 00:15:39,939   he said, can you make a video     for my girlfriend?            423 00:15:40,005 --> 00:15:43,342    - Yeah, the girlfriend that   won't meet me or call me         424 00:15:43,409 --> 00:15:44,410  or video chat with me.          425 00:15:44,476 --> 00:15:46,078 - Wow. All right.                426 00:15:46,145 --> 00:15:47,713 Well, let's keep                 looking at Laura's page.         427 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:49,214 There's not a lot                   about her in here,            428 00:15:49,281 --> 00:15:52,217    though, unless it's           sort of private.                 429 00:15:52,284 --> 00:15:54,019    All right.                    430 00:15:54,086 --> 00:15:58,290   I guess now we should          probably run the number?         431 00:15:58,357 --> 00:15:59,291    See if anything comes back.   432 00:15:59,358 --> 00:16:03,295    ♪ ♪                           433 00:16:03,362 --> 00:16:05,531    No results.                   434 00:16:05,597 --> 00:16:07,132   Okay.                          435 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:08,467  - The address?                  436 00:16:08,534 --> 00:16:10,402 I mean--                         - Yeah, we might as well.        437 00:16:10,469 --> 00:16:13,439    All right,                      here's the first one.          438 00:16:13,505 --> 00:16:17,576    Desert Hot Springs,              occupants Veronica [bleep].   439 00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:19,044    I'm not seeing any            current residents                440 00:16:19,111 --> 00:16:22,081    with the last name she has.   441 00:16:22,147 --> 00:16:23,515  I mean, I guess                 we have to assume                442 00:16:23,582 --> 00:16:25,017    it's probably being rented?   443 00:16:25,084 --> 00:16:26,852    Huh. Okay.                    444 00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:28,887   And then I guess there's one     other address we can look at.  445 00:16:28,954 --> 00:16:30,155    Let's just run it.            446 00:16:30,222 --> 00:16:33,258    - Well, if he's Ubering her   to and from that address,        447 00:16:33,325 --> 00:16:35,094 maybe it's not her place.        448 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,295   Maybe it's a friend's place.   449 00:16:36,362 --> 00:16:38,197  Or could she have a boyfriend?  450 00:16:38,263 --> 00:16:40,299  - Okay.                         451 00:16:40,366 --> 00:16:43,936    Not seeing anybody             with Laura's last name.         452 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:45,437    I don't understand              what's going on here.          453 00:16:45,504 --> 00:16:46,672    - I don't, either.            454 00:16:46,739 --> 00:16:49,108 There's too many                  possibilities going on,         455 00:16:49,174 --> 00:16:50,442  and it's making my brain hurt.  456 00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:51,977 - The fact that there are         two addresses is weird.         457 00:16:52,044 --> 00:16:54,346  Is it because--could it         be more than one person?         458 00:16:54,413 --> 00:16:56,115 - It's possible.                 459 00:16:56,181 --> 00:16:59,852   And the guy who called Arturo  and was like, stay away,         460 00:16:59,918 --> 00:17:01,987  could they be involved           in it somehow?                  461 00:17:02,054 --> 00:17:03,522   - So what do we know?          462 00:17:03,589 --> 00:17:05,257 We have current addresses           from Arturo                   463 00:17:05,324 --> 00:17:06,825  from the times                  he sent her food.                464 00:17:06,892 --> 00:17:09,028  The path leads                   to Desert Hot Springs.          465 00:17:09,094 --> 00:17:10,295  - Yeah.                         466 00:17:10,362 --> 00:17:12,765    - Whoever this is,             they're in the desert.          467 00:17:12,831 --> 00:17:16,168    My concern is that            Arturo has been wandering        468 00:17:16,235 --> 00:17:17,569  through the desert for so long, 469 00:17:17,636 --> 00:17:19,538  he thinks Laura                     is his girlfriend,           470 00:17:19,605 --> 00:17:21,607  but it's just a mirage.         471 00:17:24,610 --> 00:17:28,247   [upbeat music]                 472 00:17:28,313 --> 00:17:29,948  - Hey.                           - Hey.                          473 00:17:30,015 --> 00:17:32,284   - What's up?                   - Good to see you again.         474 00:17:32,351 --> 00:17:34,787   - All right.                   475 00:17:34,853 --> 00:17:36,789  - So what's up?                 476 00:17:36,855 --> 00:17:38,390  - Just nervous.                 477 00:17:38,457 --> 00:17:39,591  - Yeah.                         478 00:17:39,658 --> 00:17:42,294 - Have you heard                   anything from Laura?           479 00:17:42,361 --> 00:17:44,129  - Last night, actually.         480 00:17:44,196 --> 00:17:46,565    It was a very short            conversation with her.          481 00:17:46,632 --> 00:17:49,701   She asked me                     for an Uber to a bar.          482 00:17:49,768 --> 00:17:51,904    - That's--we wanted             to ask you about that          483 00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:55,174  because you mentioned the food,    but not the Ubers.            484 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,776 So have you been                    sending her Uber cars too?    485 00:17:57,843 --> 00:18:01,680  - I've sent her                  from her house to work.         486 00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:03,715    - To work?                     - Yes.                          487 00:18:03,782 --> 00:18:05,250 Last night would                    be the third time.            488 00:18:05,317 --> 00:18:07,853  - I mean, it's a little weird,    though, right, that she says,  489 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,856    hey, can you get me an Uber   to a bar called Hood Bar?        490 00:18:10,923 --> 00:18:13,792 Let me know when                 you got it, not--                491 00:18:13,859 --> 00:18:15,561    like, just assuming           you would do it.                 492 00:18:15,627 --> 00:18:16,728  - Right, yeah.                  493 00:18:16,795 --> 00:18:17,663 - It felt like an order.          - Yeah.                         494 00:18:17,729 --> 00:18:18,730 - Right.                         495 00:18:18,797 --> 00:18:20,065    - And then you said, okay.    496 00:18:20,132 --> 00:18:21,834   And she said,                  you got the Uber already?        497 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:23,802    And you said, yes,            it's seven minutes away.         498 00:18:23,869 --> 00:18:25,804 And she just said, okay.         499 00:18:25,871 --> 00:18:29,241 - But she didn't even say        thank you or let you know        500 00:18:29,308 --> 00:18:30,843 that she had gotten there         or that she had                 501 00:18:30,909 --> 00:18:32,444  gotten in the car or anything.  502 00:18:32,511 --> 00:18:34,813   - I don't even know if she's    back home or something.         503 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,381 I haven't heard from her.        504 00:18:36,448 --> 00:18:41,787  Our conversations have             been very short lately, so.   505 00:18:41,854 --> 00:18:44,423   - All right, well, why don't   I show you what we found.        506 00:18:44,490 --> 00:18:45,691  - Okay.                         507 00:18:45,757 --> 00:18:46,725  - We don't know exactly         what's going on.                 508 00:18:46,792 --> 00:18:48,494   We have some theories. Okay.   509 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,131   So first things first, you do   have a bunch of photos of her.  510 00:18:52,197 --> 00:18:55,334   As you stated, they all feel   pretty heavily filtered.         511 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,536  But we figured we might as well check them and just see.         512 00:18:57,603 --> 00:18:58,904 - Right.                         513 00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:01,807 - We searched every photo        and got no hits.                 514 00:19:01,874 --> 00:19:03,842   So the good news is,           515 00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:05,377    whoever the girl is           in the pictures,                 516 00:19:05,444 --> 00:19:07,646  as far as we can tell,           they're not some famous         517 00:19:07,713 --> 00:19:10,149  fashion influencer or whatever.  - Okay.                         518 00:19:10,215 --> 00:19:12,284    - Now, this is where things   got kind of interesting.         519 00:19:12,351 --> 00:19:14,987    As you know, her Instagram     page does not have a lot on it. 520 00:19:15,053 --> 00:19:16,255   - Basically nothing.             - Basically nothing.           521 00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:18,323 So the only thing                 I could look at                 522 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:19,825 was who she's following.         523 00:19:19,892 --> 00:19:21,527  Now, look who she's following-- 524 00:19:21,593 --> 00:19:23,662   Max, who's my former cohost;   525 00:19:23,729 --> 00:19:27,332 the show, "Catfish;" me;            and Kamie.                    526 00:19:29,168 --> 00:19:31,103    Now, what could this mean?    527 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:33,505 Because we've made a lot         of episodes of the show.         528 00:19:33,572 --> 00:19:36,909 We've looked at a lot of           people's Instagram accounts.   529 00:19:36,975 --> 00:19:41,980  And rarely, if ever, have they  been following any of us,        530 00:19:42,047 --> 00:19:43,682   let alone all of us.           531 00:19:43,749 --> 00:19:46,084 - Either she's a huge fan           of the show                   532 00:19:46,151 --> 00:19:48,387  and watches it                    every single Tuesday           533 00:19:48,453 --> 00:19:50,122   at 8:00/7:00 Central on MTV.   534 00:19:50,189 --> 00:19:53,225    Or since you told her that      you were contacting the show,  535 00:19:53,292 --> 00:19:55,360   she's trying                   to monitor our movements         536 00:19:55,427 --> 00:19:58,597  because sometimes we post where  we might be filming an episode. 537 00:19:58,664 --> 00:19:59,831 - Right.                         538 00:20:03,168 --> 00:20:04,236  - I don't know,                    it's just strange.            539 00:20:04,303 --> 00:20:05,504  - Yeah.                         540 00:20:05,571 --> 00:20:08,006 - Next thing we did was,           we ran Laura's phone number,   541 00:20:08,073 --> 00:20:10,409 but we didn't get                any hits on that.                542 00:20:10,475 --> 00:20:12,844   And since you have addresses,     we thought,                   543 00:20:12,911 --> 00:20:14,646  okay, let's run                 those addresses.                 544 00:20:14,713 --> 00:20:17,716   We didn't see the name Laura   or her last name [bleep]         545 00:20:17,783 --> 00:20:19,251  or anything like that.          546 00:20:19,318 --> 00:20:22,854 So we don't have                 any real answers.                547 00:20:22,921 --> 00:20:25,490    But I think                     it's pretty for sure           548 00:20:25,557 --> 00:20:29,595   that whoever this is              lives in Desert Hot Springs   549 00:20:29,661 --> 00:20:32,965  because you've sent her Ubers,    you've sent her food.          550 00:20:33,031 --> 00:20:35,867    Everything we have               traces back there.            551 00:20:35,934 --> 00:20:38,437    But if she is that close--    552 00:20:38,503 --> 00:20:39,771 - There's no reason why.         553 00:20:39,838 --> 00:20:41,139   - Why has she                     been avoiding you?            554 00:20:41,206 --> 00:20:42,274 - Right.                         555 00:20:42,341 --> 00:20:44,009 - Why would she give you         some pieces of the truth?        556 00:20:44,076 --> 00:20:45,310  Why would she give you            her address?                   557 00:20:45,377 --> 00:20:49,181 Why would she let you in          on a lot of the truth,          558 00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:51,516   but then keep                    so much of it secret?          559 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:54,620   - ♪ Say you mean well,            but you don't come through ♪  560 00:20:54,686 --> 00:20:57,556  ♪ Lost my faith                   by believing in you ♪          561 00:20:57,623 --> 00:21:01,727   - I really wish I had             an answer to that question.   562 00:21:01,793 --> 00:21:05,864  - Regardless if she is who she   presents herself to be or not,  563 00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:07,833    there is something             she's hiding from you.          564 00:21:07,899 --> 00:21:11,803   The phone call that you got,     from whoever that person was,  565 00:21:11,870 --> 00:21:13,505   was telling you that              there was something           566 00:21:13,572 --> 00:21:15,107 that she hadn't told you.        567 00:21:15,173 --> 00:21:18,610   What that is, I have no idea,    but it's hard for me           568 00:21:18,677 --> 00:21:22,714   to feel like her feelings for   you are genuine at this point.  569 00:21:22,781 --> 00:21:25,250    - ♪ I don't know everything,    I'm changing my mind ♪         570 00:21:25,317 --> 00:21:28,787   - I do think there's a strong   possibility that maybe          571 00:21:28,854 --> 00:21:32,724   you're one of other guys that    she talks to and flirts with   572 00:21:32,791 --> 00:21:36,828   and gets Ubers and food from,     and possibly other things,    573 00:21:36,895 --> 00:21:38,330    when she needs it.            574 00:21:38,397 --> 00:21:41,099   - ♪ You attract me in              like a low tide ♪            575 00:21:41,166 --> 00:21:43,869     ♪ So I'm losing my mind ♪    576 00:21:43,935 --> 00:21:45,737    ♪ Knowing that we'll             never get it right ♪          577 00:21:45,804 --> 00:21:48,006  - And it occurred to us          that since you've never         578 00:21:48,073 --> 00:21:51,843   heard Laura's voice,           and the only time you did        579 00:21:51,910 --> 00:21:54,246 hear a voice was recently         and it sounded                  580 00:21:54,313 --> 00:21:56,648   like an angry                     adult male voice...           581 00:21:56,715 --> 00:21:58,984   [introspective music]          582 00:21:59,051 --> 00:22:00,786    Could he be Laura?            583 00:22:00,852 --> 00:22:05,257    ♪ ♪                           584 00:22:07,726 --> 00:22:09,027  - So all we really know            for sure is                   585 00:22:09,094 --> 00:22:12,130 that there is someone who           lives in Desert Hot Springs   586 00:22:12,197 --> 00:22:13,565  that you're talking to.         587 00:22:13,632 --> 00:22:15,434  Their feelings                   for you could be real.          588 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:17,269    They could be fake.            We don't know.                  589 00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:18,904    But she's avoiding             talking to you                  590 00:22:18,970 --> 00:22:21,173    or meeting with you           for some reason.                 591 00:22:21,239 --> 00:22:24,242    [suspenseful music]           592 00:22:24,309 --> 00:22:25,811    - Where do we go from here?   593 00:22:25,877 --> 00:22:29,114  - I think, more than anything,     this experience right now,    594 00:22:29,181 --> 00:22:32,250  us being here,                    needs to be about you          595 00:22:32,317 --> 00:22:33,518 standing up for yourself.        596 00:22:33,585 --> 00:22:35,387   You've had people bully you.   597 00:22:35,454 --> 00:22:36,988 You've had people                 humiliate you.                  598 00:22:37,055 --> 00:22:39,024 And I don't get the sense         that you've ever really         599 00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:41,259   taken control of the           narrative and said, hey,         600 00:22:41,326 --> 00:22:42,527 no, this isn't gonna fly.        601 00:22:42,594 --> 00:22:43,829 You're not gonna                    treat me like this.           602 00:22:43,895 --> 00:22:45,063 I deserve better.                603 00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:47,599 Whether we end up finding        and meeting Laura or not,        604 00:22:47,666 --> 00:22:51,269    I want you to start           building your self-worth         605 00:22:51,336 --> 00:22:52,471   and your confidence.           606 00:22:52,537 --> 00:22:54,272 - I think this is                 exactly what I needed,          607 00:22:54,339 --> 00:22:56,808  honestly, to hear that.         608 00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:59,644   - So I think                    we should message her.          609 00:22:59,711 --> 00:23:01,813  Typically, we message,             but I think                   610 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,281  it kind of should come          from you.                        611 00:23:03,348 --> 00:23:05,117    - Are you ready to do that?   612 00:23:05,183 --> 00:23:07,753 - I definitely wanna take        that step that I haven't         613 00:23:07,819 --> 00:23:09,354   been able to take by myself.   614 00:23:09,421 --> 00:23:12,924    ♪ ♪                           615 00:23:12,991 --> 00:23:15,927  Hey, I think it's time          for us to meet in person.        616 00:23:15,994 --> 00:23:19,164   In two months, we are             about to hit a 1-year mark,   617 00:23:20,165 --> 00:23:22,033    we haven't                      even seen each other,ep] that  618 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,002   hung out, or even had            a phone call.                  619 00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:26,605  Like, money is nothing.         I don't care about that.         620 00:23:26,671 --> 00:23:28,640  But the time and effort           and affection                  621 00:23:28,707 --> 00:23:30,509  seems like it's going to waste. 622 00:23:30,575 --> 00:23:34,813  Let's meet soon                   or we can't continue.          623 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,948   No turning back now.             - Do it. Oh.                   624 00:23:37,015 --> 00:23:38,417  - Ooh.                             - That's it. Sent.            625 00:23:38,483 --> 00:23:39,684  - That's right, Arturo.         626 00:23:39,751 --> 00:23:41,052  - Yeah.                          - Take control.                 627 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,356    - How's that feel?              - Liberating a bit, honestly.  628 00:23:44,423 --> 00:23:46,892 Like taking back control           a little bit.                  629 00:23:46,958 --> 00:23:48,059  - Yeah.                         630 00:23:48,126 --> 00:23:50,228 There's a good chance she         might appreciate this.          631 00:23:50,295 --> 00:23:52,397 People want to be around         someone who's confident.         632 00:23:52,464 --> 00:23:53,765 - Right.                         633 00:23:53,832 --> 00:23:55,834 - Who says what they want        and is serious about it.         634 00:23:55,901 --> 00:23:59,037  So you gotta say what you want. 635 00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:01,006   - Right. She saw it.           636 00:24:01,072 --> 00:24:02,674   - Oh!                           - Ooh!                          637 00:24:02,741 --> 00:24:04,209   - She saw it.                  638 00:24:04,276 --> 00:24:06,111 - Uh-oh.                           - Let's see.                   639 00:24:06,178 --> 00:24:11,850    ♪ ♪                           640 00:24:11,917 --> 00:24:14,252 Come on.                         641 00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:17,622  - Okay, it did not take          that long to read that.         642 00:24:17,689 --> 00:24:20,492   - Well, I don't know              how quickly                   643 00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:22,527    she's gonna respond or not.   - Right.                         644 00:24:22,594 --> 00:24:24,830  - So this is about you.         645 00:24:24,896 --> 00:24:26,565    This is not                     about Laura anymore.           646 00:24:26,631 --> 00:24:29,267  So we need to go out there, and   you need to give her one shot  647 00:24:29,334 --> 00:24:32,537   to explain all this,             to prove she's real,           648 00:24:32,604 --> 00:24:34,539 and to show that                   she cares about you.           649 00:24:34,606 --> 00:24:38,109  Or you come back to LA single.  650 00:24:38,176 --> 00:24:39,978 We know she lives                 in Desert Hot Springs.          651 00:24:40,045 --> 00:24:42,380    So if you're ready to take    control of the situation,        652 00:24:42,447 --> 00:24:45,383 I think we should                 just get going.                 653 00:24:45,450 --> 00:24:46,852  - Yeah.                         654 00:24:46,918 --> 00:24:48,653    I'm willing to go.              - All right.                   655 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,955  - Okay.                         - Are you ready?                 656 00:24:50,021 --> 00:24:51,423  - Yeah.                         657 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:55,293    - ♪ Stressing over problems       that ain't mine ♪            658 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,296 - Right.                         659 00:24:58,363 --> 00:25:00,265    - All good?                    - Yeah.                         660 00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:02,100 - Are you ready?                 661 00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:03,201  - Yes.                          662 00:25:03,268 --> 00:25:04,336   Yes and no, but yes.           663 00:25:04,402 --> 00:25:05,804  - But more yes.                 664 00:25:05,871 --> 00:25:08,273  - Ready or not,                    here we [bleep] go.           665 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:11,810  - ♪ Would it be selfish          of me ♪                         666 00:25:11,877 --> 00:25:14,546     ♪ To close my eyes             for a minute ♪                 667 00:25:14,613 --> 00:25:17,782    ♪ Whatever you do ♪           668 00:25:17,849 --> 00:25:20,218  ♪ Please help me                    feel weightless ♪            669 00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:22,320    - So where are we gonna go?     - Well, I don't know.          670 00:25:22,387 --> 00:25:24,789   I mean, last night, you sent   her that Uber to the bar.        671 00:25:24,856 --> 00:25:26,057  - Yeah.                         - Right?                         672 00:25:26,124 --> 00:25:28,760  - So if she was                  at that bar last night,         673 00:25:28,827 --> 00:25:31,630    we could go there,             just say, hey,                  674 00:25:31,696 --> 00:25:33,064  our friend was here last night. 675 00:25:33,131 --> 00:25:35,500   We'll show a picture           of Laura and see                 676 00:25:35,567 --> 00:25:37,235 if anyone recognizes her.        677 00:25:37,302 --> 00:25:38,670    - Definitely worth a shot.    678 00:25:38,737 --> 00:25:40,772   [upbeat music]                 679 00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:44,910     - ♪ Please help me               feel weightless ♪            680 00:25:44,976 --> 00:25:47,312   - Okay. We're close.           681 00:25:47,379 --> 00:25:49,314    - Has she texted back yet?    682 00:25:49,381 --> 00:25:51,082 - I'm still left on seen.        683 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:55,287   - Okay, we're almost              at the bar.                   684 00:25:55,353 --> 00:25:56,588   Let's see if there's            anyone working tonight          685 00:25:56,655 --> 00:25:57,689   who was also working              last night.                   686 00:25:57,756 --> 00:26:00,492  - So this is her spot.          687 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,128    - There's a little            parking lot here.                688 00:26:05,130 --> 00:26:07,132  All right, let's check it out.  689 00:26:07,198 --> 00:26:10,135   [tense music]                  690 00:26:10,201 --> 00:26:14,639    ♪ ♪                           691 00:26:14,706 --> 00:26:15,974  Hey. Are you security?           - Yeah.                         692 00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:17,208  - Do you have a minute?          - Yeah.                         693 00:26:17,275 --> 00:26:19,277  - Were you working last night?    - Yes, I was.                  694 00:26:19,344 --> 00:26:21,012   - This is "Catfish."           695 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:23,081   - Hi.                             - Hi. How are you?            696 00:26:23,148 --> 00:26:25,150    - This young man is talking     to a girl who lives out here.  697 00:26:25,216 --> 00:26:26,851  - Okay.                          - But they haven't met.         698 00:26:26,918 --> 00:26:30,088   And yesterday, she asked him     if he could send her           699 00:26:30,155 --> 00:26:31,990   an Uber to come to this bar.    - Okay.                         700 00:26:32,057 --> 00:26:33,525    - So we know she came here.    - Yeah.                         701 00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,093   - Someone came here.           702 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,997   So do you remember this girl    being here last night?          703 00:26:42,934 --> 00:26:45,270    - Do you remember this girl    being here last night?          704 00:26:45,337 --> 00:26:46,304   - Oh.                          705 00:26:46,371 --> 00:26:48,807   [tense music]                  706 00:26:48,873 --> 00:26:50,141   Yeah.                           Yeah, she was here last night.  707 00:26:50,208 --> 00:26:51,343 - Really?                        708 00:26:51,409 --> 00:26:52,911 - They didn't stay long,          but I remember.                 709 00:26:52,978 --> 00:26:54,579  She was with some guy.          710 00:26:54,646 --> 00:26:56,181   They had a couple of drinks.   711 00:26:56,247 --> 00:26:57,849    Kind of looked like a date.   712 00:26:58,883 --> 00:27:00,852   Like I said,                    they weren't here long.         713 00:27:00,919 --> 00:27:01,953  - Interesting.                  714 00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:05,457 Not great news, but okay.        715 00:27:05,523 --> 00:27:06,558    Thank you.                    - Right.                         716 00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:08,159 - Appreciate it.                   - Thank you.                   717 00:27:08,226 --> 00:27:09,861  Appreciate it.                  718 00:27:09,928 --> 00:27:11,296  - Okay.                         719 00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:12,998   Happy to hear she is           the girl in the pictures,        720 00:27:13,064 --> 00:27:16,201    but not stoked that           she was here with a guy.         721 00:27:16,267 --> 00:27:22,207  - She had you Uber her here to   go on a date with another guy?  722 00:27:22,273 --> 00:27:23,942   Are you okay?                  723 00:27:26,077 --> 00:27:27,779  - I'm kind of blanking.         724 00:27:27,846 --> 00:27:30,815 I'm trying to figure out          what to say right now.          725 00:27:30,882 --> 00:27:33,184   - I feel like we need            to tell her something          726 00:27:33,251 --> 00:27:35,420  to let her know                 that you drove out here.         727 00:27:35,487 --> 00:27:37,822    I know you were at the bar    last night with some guy.        728 00:27:37,889 --> 00:27:38,990   WTF?                           729 00:27:39,057 --> 00:27:44,329    ♪ ♪                           730 00:27:44,396 --> 00:27:45,797 - What'd you say?                731 00:27:45,864 --> 00:27:50,135   - Yo, I'm at the bar              where you had me Uber you.    732 00:27:50,201 --> 00:27:51,469   You were with a guy?           733 00:27:51,536 --> 00:27:53,138   Seriously, what the [bleep]?   734 00:27:53,204 --> 00:27:54,439  I'm here till tomorrow.         735 00:27:54,506 --> 00:27:56,141   Please don't ignore me again.  736 00:27:56,207 --> 00:27:58,543    Because clearly she              ignored me four hours ago.    737 00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:00,478  - Yeah.                          - So...                         738 00:28:02,747 --> 00:28:04,315  [sighs]                          - You're right.                 739 00:28:04,382 --> 00:28:06,384   You're right                      to react like that.           740 00:28:06,451 --> 00:28:08,953 I don't know what                   she thinks this is.           741 00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:10,889  - I don't know what the [bleep] I'm even doing over here.        742 00:28:10,955 --> 00:28:12,557    I mean, I know what            I'm here to do.                 743 00:28:12,624 --> 00:28:15,393 I just--what the [bleep]          am I even out here for?         744 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:18,329  - We'll just head to the hotel  and hope that she                745 00:28:18,396 --> 00:28:20,398  responds at some point.         746 00:28:20,465 --> 00:28:21,633  - Yeah.                         747 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,501  - Let's get some rest, and, uh, 748 00:28:23,568 --> 00:28:25,970   we'll regroup in the morning.  749 00:28:28,173 --> 00:28:29,374   [line trills]                  750 00:28:30,141 --> 00:28:32,043    - We're eager to see              if you've heard anything,    751 00:28:32,110 --> 00:28:33,678   so why don't you come            down here and meet us?         752 00:28:34,612 --> 00:28:35,680  [knock at door]                 753 00:28:35,747 --> 00:28:38,216   - What's up?                   - Hello.                         754 00:28:38,283 --> 00:28:40,351 [speaks Spanish]                 755 00:28:40,418 --> 00:28:42,387 - So there was no reply,         756 00:28:42,454 --> 00:28:45,323    but she did see my message      an hour ago.                   757 00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:46,991    - But she only just saw it.   758 00:28:47,058 --> 00:28:48,259  - Yeah.                         759 00:28:48,326 --> 00:28:50,895  - Well, I mean,                    what do you think?            760 00:28:50,962 --> 00:28:51,996   What do you wanna do?          761 00:28:52,063 --> 00:28:55,066    Because we're here.           762 00:28:55,133 --> 00:28:56,534  - I don't know.                 763 00:28:56,601 --> 00:28:58,737   - She's ignoring you,          but she also follows us.         764 00:28:58,803 --> 00:29:00,805 - Right.                            - So if you were to DM her,   765 00:29:00,872 --> 00:29:02,974   it would go straight              to the top of her messages.   766 00:29:03,041 --> 00:29:04,242    - She might respond             to me, sure.                   767 00:29:04,309 --> 00:29:06,211    Let me send her a message.    768 00:29:06,277 --> 00:29:09,647   Hello, Laura.                  769 00:29:09,714 --> 00:29:15,553    This is Nev from "Catfish."   770 00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:17,122    We came with Arturo             to Desert Hot Springs          771 00:29:17,188 --> 00:29:18,556   to help him meet you.          772 00:29:18,623 --> 00:29:20,191   So let us know when and where  you want to meet                 773 00:29:20,258 --> 00:29:21,693  in the next 30 minutes,           or we'll just assume           774 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,161    it's not happening.           775 00:29:23,228 --> 00:29:24,295   Sent.                          776 00:29:24,362 --> 00:29:27,432    All right,                    let's see what she says.         777 00:29:27,499 --> 00:29:28,566 - Did she ever--                   [phone dings]                  778 00:29:28,633 --> 00:29:30,335   - Oh.                            She's responded on Instagram.  779 00:29:30,401 --> 00:29:32,036  - Ooh!                          - That was fast.                 780 00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:33,338 "I have a lot to explain.        781 00:29:33,404 --> 00:29:35,840 Since he's here,                 we have to meet."                782 00:29:35,907 --> 00:29:36,908 - Where?                         783 00:29:36,975 --> 00:29:39,144   - 15 [bleep]                      Desert Hot Springs,           784 00:29:39,210 --> 00:29:42,013  which is the same address that    you've been sending stuff to.  785 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,449    - What could it possibly be     that's so important,           786 00:29:44,516 --> 00:29:46,785 that's so scary,                 that she just hasn't even        787 00:29:46,851 --> 00:29:48,019  been able to get on the phone?  788 00:29:50,188 --> 00:29:51,923  - Well, are you ready?          789 00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:53,024    - Let's go.                   790 00:29:53,091 --> 00:29:56,961    ♪ ♪                           791 00:29:57,028 --> 00:29:59,063 - Oh, thank you, Arturo.         792 00:30:03,668 --> 00:30:05,737 - I'm still just                   trying to figure out           793 00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:09,340 why I let it get this far          and how I got myself into it.  794 00:30:09,407 --> 00:30:16,347    ♪ ♪                           795 00:30:16,414 --> 00:30:18,183  - Oh, wait, is that it?         796 00:30:18,249 --> 00:30:19,484   Yes.                           797 00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:20,952    That is it.                   798 00:30:21,019 --> 00:30:22,854    All right, I think              we should just do it.          799 00:30:22,921 --> 00:30:23,855    - Let's go.                   800 00:30:23,922 --> 00:30:30,728    ♪ ♪                           801 00:30:35,233 --> 00:30:36,501   - All right.                   802 00:30:36,568 --> 00:30:37,802  Let's do this.                  803 00:30:37,869 --> 00:30:39,537  - You got this, Arturo.         804 00:30:41,105 --> 00:30:42,574     [doorbell chimes]            805 00:30:45,210 --> 00:30:48,680    It's weird,                    tinted windows, right?          806 00:30:48,746 --> 00:30:50,615  - Ooh.                           - What?                         807 00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:51,716    What is it?                   808 00:30:51,783 --> 00:30:53,251  Did that just come out?         809 00:30:53,318 --> 00:30:54,786  - Yes.                          810 00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:02,227    - It says, "I need to talk      to Nev first.                  811 00:31:02,293 --> 00:31:03,595 Come in."                        812 00:31:03,661 --> 00:31:07,198    - What the [bleep]              is happening?                  813 00:31:07,265 --> 00:31:10,668  That looks like                  a [bleep] ransom note.          814 00:31:10,735 --> 00:31:11,936   - I'll check it out.           815 00:31:14,973 --> 00:31:17,475  - Here.                         816 00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:19,644    What is happening?            817 00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:22,280   - All right,                   I'm gonna go in.                 818 00:31:22,347 --> 00:31:23,915 - This is [bleep] weird.         819 00:31:23,982 --> 00:31:25,183 - Hello?                         820 00:31:29,621 --> 00:31:30,989 - Hello?                         821 00:31:35,159 --> 00:31:38,029   - It's weird,                   tinted windows, right?          822 00:31:38,096 --> 00:31:40,665   - Oh.                           - What?                         823 00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:43,001  Did that just come out?         824 00:31:43,067 --> 00:31:45,770   "I need to talk to Nev first.  825 00:31:45,837 --> 00:31:47,705 Come in."                        826 00:31:47,772 --> 00:31:51,142 - That looks like                 a [bleep] ransom note.          827 00:31:51,209 --> 00:31:52,243   - I'll check it out.           828 00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:55,613   [tense music]                  829 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,648  Hello?                          830 00:32:05,256 --> 00:32:06,824  Hello.                            - Hi.                          831 00:32:06,891 --> 00:32:08,159   - Hi.                            - What's up?                   832 00:32:08,226 --> 00:32:10,728  - I'm Anthony.                     - Hi, Nev.                    833 00:32:10,795 --> 00:32:13,698 Not what I was expecting.        834 00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:17,001   - I don't know, man,            this is [bleep] weird.          835 00:32:17,068 --> 00:32:19,237   - I'm here trying to support.  836 00:32:19,304 --> 00:32:20,672  She was really nervous.         837 00:32:20,738 --> 00:32:22,573 - Are you just a friend?         838 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,574 - Just a friend.                 839 00:32:23,641 --> 00:32:25,209  - You're just a friend          of Laura.                        840 00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:27,211    - Yeah, she's just             really nervous.                 841 00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:29,614 - I don't hear anything.         842 00:32:29,681 --> 00:32:31,282   - Interesting.                 843 00:32:31,349 --> 00:32:33,051    Hi.                             - Hi.                          844 00:32:33,117 --> 00:32:34,686    - I'm Nev.                    845 00:32:34,752 --> 00:32:36,020 - Laura.                         - Sorry?                         846 00:32:37,488 --> 00:32:39,090  - She's really insecure           about her speech impediment.   847 00:32:39,157 --> 00:32:40,591    - Oh, okay.                   848 00:32:40,658 --> 00:32:43,094 - She got teased about it        a lot growing up.                849 00:32:43,161 --> 00:32:44,562   - That sucks.                  850 00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:47,031  Is that why you've been         hesitant to meet Arturo?         851 00:32:47,098 --> 00:32:48,800 - Mm-hmm.                        852 00:32:48,866 --> 00:32:54,839  I want to tell him, but I don't   know what he will say or do.   853 00:32:56,874 --> 00:32:58,776    - If it is her, now I have      even more questions.           854 00:32:58,843 --> 00:33:00,645  Like, why all of this?          855 00:33:00,712 --> 00:33:01,579    What is happening?            856 00:33:01,646 --> 00:33:03,715 - I mean,                        she agreed to meet, so--         857 00:33:03,781 --> 00:33:05,083  - Yeah.                         858 00:33:05,149 --> 00:33:06,584    What are you trying           to do right now?                 859 00:33:06,651 --> 00:33:09,454    - Arturo couldn't be              a sweeter person.            860 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,557 There's no way he's gonna          judge you in any way           861 00:33:12,623 --> 00:33:15,259 because you sound                   a little different.           862 00:33:15,326 --> 00:33:19,397    Are you comfortable            having a conversation?          863 00:33:19,464 --> 00:33:21,199   - Yeah, that's fine.           864 00:33:21,265 --> 00:33:22,900    I want to meet him.           865 00:33:22,967 --> 00:33:24,569   - There's cameras out there.   866 00:33:24,635 --> 00:33:26,170   Are you gonna                     be okay with that?            867 00:33:26,237 --> 00:33:27,538    - I'm fine.                   - Great.                         868 00:33:27,605 --> 00:33:29,407    Do you want Anthony           to come with us as well?         869 00:33:29,474 --> 00:33:30,475   - No.                            - No.                          870 00:33:30,541 --> 00:33:32,076   You're okay.                   - Mm-hmm.                        871 00:33:32,143 --> 00:33:33,711  - Okay.                           - Good luck.                   872 00:33:33,778 --> 00:33:39,050    ♪ ♪                           873 00:33:39,117 --> 00:33:41,352  - Okay.                         874 00:33:41,419 --> 00:33:44,088  Arturo, this is Laura.          875 00:33:46,290 --> 00:33:48,292   - Hi.                            - Hi, Laura.                   876 00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:50,762    I'm Kamie.                    - Hello.                         877 00:33:50,828 --> 00:33:51,729    - Nice to meet you.           878 00:33:57,001 --> 00:33:58,436    - You're good to--            879 00:34:01,105 --> 00:34:02,607  - I have to tell you something. 880 00:34:04,909 --> 00:34:10,014  The way I talk,                   people make fun of me of it.   881 00:34:10,081 --> 00:34:12,583 - Laura's nervous                because she's had                882 00:34:12,650 --> 00:34:15,553    a speech impediment            her whole life.                 883 00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:20,858  - I don't want you to be like,    now I don't want you anymore.  884 00:34:20,925 --> 00:34:22,894  - It's not bad at all.          885 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,163    I literally thought            you just had an accent.         886 00:34:26,731 --> 00:34:28,966   - I guess whenever you talked   about getting bullied,          887 00:34:29,033 --> 00:34:31,469    that is what it was about.    888 00:34:31,536 --> 00:34:34,772  - Have you had bad experiences     in dating as well?            889 00:34:34,839 --> 00:34:37,942  - When they found out,             they just broke up with me.   890 00:34:38,009 --> 00:34:39,577 - Really?                        891 00:34:39,644 --> 00:34:41,345   - So how did they even get to    the point of dating you then?  892 00:34:41,412 --> 00:34:43,014    - I hide it away from them.   893 00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:44,715   - So you just                     speak very little.            894 00:34:44,782 --> 00:34:45,616 - Mm-hmm.                        895 00:34:45,683 --> 00:34:47,919 - Well, that must                be excruciatingly                896 00:34:47,985 --> 00:34:50,154   emotionally painful,              to be with someone            897 00:34:50,221 --> 00:34:52,990    and hide your voice, right?   898 00:34:53,057 --> 00:34:54,058  - Yeah.                         899 00:34:54,125 --> 00:34:57,028 - It's not bad, honestly.        900 00:34:57,095 --> 00:34:58,529  - Yeah.                         901 00:34:58,596 --> 00:35:00,064   I mean, we're hearing             you talk right now.           902 00:35:00,131 --> 00:35:01,833    I can understand everything      that you're saying.           903 00:35:01,899 --> 00:35:03,534  - Yeah.                         904 00:35:05,603 --> 00:35:07,271 - I was expecting                 something else.                 905 00:35:07,338 --> 00:35:08,639  - Yeah.                         906 00:35:08,706 --> 00:35:10,508   I mean, look,                   let's just cover all our bases. 907 00:35:10,575 --> 00:35:13,411  Not in any way                    diminishing your experience,   908 00:35:13,478 --> 00:35:16,180 because I'm sure                  it has been difficult,          909 00:35:16,247 --> 00:35:18,216   but it still doesn't              necessarily explain           910 00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:20,785  some of your behavior.          911 00:35:20,852 --> 00:35:24,021    Like, I don't know,            asking for food                 912 00:35:24,088 --> 00:35:29,393   and Ubers just felt like you    were sort of using him at times 913 00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:30,995 because you knew he would          do things or say yes,          914 00:35:31,062 --> 00:35:32,530   and he was generous.           915 00:35:32,597 --> 00:35:34,832   - Even the other day,             you asked him for an Uber.    916 00:35:34,899 --> 00:35:37,335  It just feels like now            it's an expectation.           917 00:35:37,401 --> 00:35:39,770    It's not even a...               - Request.                    918 00:35:39,837 --> 00:35:41,405    - Request.                    919 00:35:41,472 --> 00:35:42,974   - I'm sorry.                   920 00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:47,378    - Were you okay that night?    - Yeah.                         921 00:35:47,445 --> 00:35:48,646  - Something up?                 922 00:35:51,816 --> 00:35:57,455  We just talk about the TV show   because I need someone,         923 00:35:57,522 --> 00:35:59,423  and that's it.                  924 00:35:59,490 --> 00:36:02,160    - So when Arturo mentioned       reaching out to us,           925 00:36:02,226 --> 00:36:04,028 you were nervous.                926 00:36:04,095 --> 00:36:05,429  - Yeah.                          - Okay.                         927 00:36:05,496 --> 00:36:08,166    But who was the guy           that called him?                 928 00:36:08,232 --> 00:36:11,335  Someone called him very angry,     and kind of yelled at him.    929 00:36:11,402 --> 00:36:12,770  - One of my coworkers.          930 00:36:14,238 --> 00:36:17,742 that I'm nervous                    about the TV show.            931 00:36:17,808 --> 00:36:19,343  - So then your                    coworker called him.           932 00:36:19,410 --> 00:36:20,845  - Yeah.                         933 00:36:20,912 --> 00:36:22,780    - So your coworkers              know about Arturo.            934 00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:25,016 - Mm-hmm.                           I talk about him...           935 00:36:27,084 --> 00:36:28,619   - And you talk about him as?   936 00:36:28,686 --> 00:36:30,488  - My boyfriend.                 - Your boyfriend.                937 00:36:30,555 --> 00:36:31,989   I mean, that's great.          938 00:36:32,056 --> 00:36:33,724    You've told people              he's your boyfriend.           939 00:36:33,791 --> 00:36:36,694  But have you been pursuing this    in a meaningful way           940 00:36:36,761 --> 00:36:38,362 because you really think            there's a potential           941 00:36:38,429 --> 00:36:39,730  to be together?                 942 00:36:39,797 --> 00:36:44,602    - I just love him,             and I just want to be his wife  943 00:36:44,669 --> 00:36:49,073  and have kids with him someday. 944 00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:50,374  - Whoa. Really?                 945 00:36:50,441 --> 00:36:51,475  - Yeah.                         946 00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,878    - That's quite a statement.   947 00:36:53,945 --> 00:36:56,480  Have you guys--                    - I was not expecting that.   948 00:36:56,547 --> 00:36:57,715    - Did he know that?           949 00:36:57,782 --> 00:37:00,351 - I think he did.                950 00:37:00,418 --> 00:37:01,986  - Wow.                          951 00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:03,154 You're in love with him.         952 00:37:03,221 --> 00:37:04,222  - Yeah.                         953 00:37:04,288 --> 00:37:05,690  - Wow.                          954 00:37:05,756 --> 00:37:10,161  This is honestly better         than any version of this         955 00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:11,862   that we could have expected.   956 00:37:11,929 --> 00:37:14,765    Now that we know all this,     let's go inside                 957 00:37:14,832 --> 00:37:18,402    and get comfortable              and hopefully try to reset.   958 00:37:18,469 --> 00:37:20,538    [soft music]                  959 00:37:20,605 --> 00:37:22,740    Arturo, why don't you sit?    960 00:37:22,807 --> 00:37:24,742 Look at you guys.                  - Same shoes.                  961 00:37:24,809 --> 00:37:27,912    - I mean, come on.               - [laughs]                    962 00:37:27,979 --> 00:37:29,313   - I don't know, guys.          963 00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:31,282 The feelings are mutual.         964 00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:33,818   The story somehow checks out   965 00:37:33,884 --> 00:37:36,754  in the one in a million chance,  Arturo.                         966 00:37:37,922 --> 00:37:41,525   When I emailed y'all,           - I was not expecting           967 00:37:41,592 --> 00:37:43,327  a happy story.                  968 00:37:43,394 --> 00:37:46,130   - We spent the last two days   certain,                         969 00:37:46,197 --> 00:37:50,268   beyond any shadow of a doubt,     that he was getting played,   970 00:37:50,334 --> 00:37:53,004  that someone was lying to him,   that it could be a guy.         971 00:37:53,070 --> 00:37:56,741   That was what we were             preparing him for.            972 00:37:56,807 --> 00:37:59,944   - Are you mad                     that this happened?           973 00:38:00,011 --> 00:38:02,546 Like, are you mad                that he asked us?                974 00:38:02,613 --> 00:38:07,985    - At first,                     I was mad he did this, but--   975 00:38:08,052 --> 00:38:09,920   but now I'm not mad.           976 00:38:09,987 --> 00:38:11,922    - I'm really happy             that it's you.                  977 00:38:11,989 --> 00:38:15,459   My leg's been shaking          this whole time.                 978 00:38:15,526 --> 00:38:18,062  Yeah, I'm really happy           that it's you.                  979 00:38:18,129 --> 00:38:19,196    I'm sorry.                    980 00:38:19,263 --> 00:38:21,132   I'm speechless still, just--   981 00:38:21,198 --> 00:38:22,566 [laughs]                         982 00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:27,138 - Is it nice to see him?         983 00:38:27,204 --> 00:38:29,707   - Yeah. He's cute in person.   984 00:38:31,375 --> 00:38:32,977 - I'll take that.                985 00:38:33,044 --> 00:38:34,879  - Do you wanna                   hug each other?                 986 00:38:34,945 --> 00:38:36,547  Yeah, what the [bleep]?          - There you go.                 987 00:38:38,249 --> 00:38:40,351  - Aww.                          988 00:38:40,418 --> 00:38:43,321  - All right, well, I feel like   we're just in the way.          989 00:38:43,387 --> 00:38:46,891    Arturo, we can have            a PA or producer take you back  990 00:38:46,957 --> 00:38:50,561 to LA later if you wanna          hang out, like, not on camera.  991 00:38:50,628 --> 00:38:51,996   - That's fine with me. Yeah.   992 00:38:52,063 --> 00:38:53,431   - I want him to stay.           - You want him to stay.         993 00:38:53,497 --> 00:38:54,699   Okay, great.                   994 00:38:54,765 --> 00:38:57,535 Let's say goodbye                 to this lovely couple.          995 00:38:57,601 --> 00:38:59,270  - Okay.                          - Okay.                         996 00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:02,673   - ♪ Out of the blue ♪          997 00:39:02,740 --> 00:39:05,443   - Great to meet you.              - You too.                    998 00:39:05,509 --> 00:39:07,011   - Thank you so much.           999 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,648  - Can we take a picture          with you guys?                  1000 00:39:10,715 --> 00:39:12,783  - Yeah.                            - We should take a selfie.    1001 00:39:12,850 --> 00:39:14,385   - Oh, wait a second.             Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.  1002 00:39:14,452 --> 00:39:15,986  - What?                          - Whoa.                         1003 00:39:16,053 --> 00:39:18,155   - Is it a picture of Arturo?    [gasps]                         1004 00:39:18,222 --> 00:39:20,257    - You got my--oh, that's--    1005 00:39:20,324 --> 00:39:22,326 - Aw, that's really cute.        1006 00:39:22,393 --> 00:39:23,761  - Let me take a picture of us.  1007 00:39:26,797 --> 00:39:28,366   I'm so happy                     this all worked out.           1008 00:39:28,432 --> 00:39:29,967 - Have fun, kids.                1009 00:39:34,105 --> 00:39:36,140 - I can't believe                   how wrong you were.           1010 00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:39,610    - Ah! Oh, hell no.            1011 00:39:39,677 --> 00:39:41,779     - ♪ We don't have             to say goodbye ♪                1012 00:39:41,846 --> 00:39:44,915    ♪ Say goodbye, say goodbye ♪  1013 00:39:47,151 --> 00:39:49,854  [both yelling]                  1014 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,555   - Oh, my God, I can't          believe my eyes.                 1015 00:39:51,622 --> 00:39:53,591 - I was hoping--                 y'all are still together.        1016 00:39:53,657 --> 00:39:55,359 I wanna make sure                  this is not a mirage.          1017 00:39:55,426 --> 00:39:57,561    - No, yes, we are definitely   still together.                 1018 00:39:57,628 --> 00:39:58,629  - Are we happy?                 1019 00:39:58,696 --> 00:40:00,531   - Yes.                           - Very, yeah.                  1020 00:40:00,598 --> 00:40:02,066  - Aww.                          1021 00:40:02,133 --> 00:40:03,701    - Right now,                      I'm in Desert Hot Springs.   1022 00:40:03,768 --> 00:40:05,369     It's usually been,            like, two weeks                 1023 00:40:05,436 --> 00:40:07,037    over there, two weeks here.   1024 00:40:07,104 --> 00:40:08,973   - So this is                     a full relationship.           1025 00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:10,207  - Yeah.                         1026 00:40:10,274 --> 00:40:12,443   And then she actually           was not kidding                 1027 00:40:12,510 --> 00:40:17,014   when she said that she wanted   to start like a family.         1028 00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:19,350    We're still waiting to see.   1029 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:20,851    - Are you pregnant?           1030 00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:22,553  - Maybe.                         - There's a possibility.        1031 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:23,654  - Yeah.                          - We're waiting.                1032 00:40:23,721 --> 00:40:26,257  - What?                          - We're having a baby!          1033 00:40:26,323 --> 00:40:30,561   - We're still gonna go             to a doctor to make sure.    1034 00:40:30,628 --> 00:40:32,430   - Holy moly.                   1035 00:40:32,496 --> 00:40:34,331    - This is my first             "Catfish" baby.                 1036 00:40:34,398 --> 00:40:35,766    - This is a big deal, guys.   1037 00:40:35,833 --> 00:40:38,269 - As soon as you                 get the sonogram,                1038 00:40:38,335 --> 00:40:41,138    I want a photo immediately.   1039 00:40:41,205 --> 00:40:43,207 Aw, guys.                        1040 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:44,341    - Can't believe it.           1041 00:40:44,408 --> 00:40:45,576   - Premature congratulations,   1042 00:40:45,643 --> 00:40:47,011    but congratulations             nonetheless.                   1043 00:40:47,077 --> 00:40:48,078    - Thank you.                  1044 00:40:48,145 --> 00:40:49,613   - I'm so happy for you guys.      Good luck.                    1045 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,549  Keep us posted.                    - Thank you so much.          1046 00:40:51,615 --> 00:40:52,683   - Take care.                      - Bye-bye.                    1047 00:40:52,750 --> 00:40:55,119    - Thank you.                   Have a good one.                1048 00:40:55,186 --> 00:40:58,522   [upbeat music]                 1049 00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:34,625   - I really didn't think I was     ever gonna have to do this,   1050 00:41:34,692 --> 00:41:35,926    but I need a cohost.          1051 00:41:35,993 --> 00:41:38,596  [dramatic music]                1052 00:41:38,662 --> 00:41:40,931    ♪ ♪                           1053 00:41:40,998 --> 00:41:42,833 Max! You're back.                1054 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:44,401   - I can't believe we're here.  1055 00:41:44,468 --> 00:41:46,036  - How long has it been?            Five years.                   1056 00:41:46,103 --> 00:41:47,137 Are you ready to do this?        1057 00:41:47,204 --> 00:41:50,007 - What an episode                to come back to.