1 00:00:07,485 --> 00:00:09,618 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:09,705 --> 00:00:11,446 - I met Gabby on a dating app. 3 00:00:11,533 --> 00:00:13,100 Everything about her is top-tier. 4 00:00:13,187 --> 00:00:16,233 We both have sickle cell, so she can relate to it. 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,061 But I send her pictures of me all the time. 6 00:00:18,148 --> 00:00:20,411 I've gotten, like, one. - That's weird. 7 00:00:20,498 --> 00:00:21,543 - Let's see. What is this? 8 00:00:21,630 --> 00:00:23,023 Oh, hello. - What? 9 00:00:23,110 --> 00:00:24,763 - How do you feel about Ayla? 10 00:00:27,331 --> 00:00:28,289 - How long we gonna wait? 11 00:00:28,376 --> 00:00:30,247 Oh, wait, who's that? 12 00:00:30,334 --> 00:00:32,162 - There is someone walking into the park. 13 00:00:32,249 --> 00:00:34,208 - I can't see that far. - Definitely coming up here. 14 00:00:34,295 --> 00:00:36,993 [dramatic music] 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,951 - Well, I thought, because we love 16 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:41,171 a good, healthy competition... 17 00:00:41,258 --> 00:00:42,738 - Mm-hmm. - On the show, 18 00:00:42,825 --> 00:00:45,219 we could start the episode with a little bit of a-- 19 00:00:45,306 --> 00:00:46,611 - A duel. 20 00:00:46,698 --> 00:00:48,961 - So you understand the object is to pop. 21 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:51,181 OK? - En garde. 22 00:00:51,268 --> 00:00:52,922 [upbeat music] 23 00:00:53,009 --> 00:00:53,966 [balloon pops] - Fucker. 24 00:00:54,054 --> 00:00:57,840 - [laughs] That was fast. 25 00:00:57,927 --> 00:00:59,102 - All right. 26 00:00:59,189 --> 00:01:00,843 - Bring your balloon head over here. 27 00:01:00,930 --> 00:01:03,454 - Get big head another refill. - [gasps] 28 00:01:03,541 --> 00:01:05,021 - Ooh, this face is angrier. 29 00:01:05,108 --> 00:01:07,284 - Yeah, I'm upset. - [laughs] 30 00:01:07,371 --> 00:01:09,504 Whoo-whoo-whoo-whoo. - Get the hell-- 31 00:01:09,591 --> 00:01:10,679 - Oh. [balloon pops] 32 00:01:10,766 --> 00:01:13,203 Oh! I did it to myself! - Good. 33 00:01:15,118 --> 00:01:17,120 - Two out of three. OK. 34 00:01:17,207 --> 00:01:19,209 ♪ ♪ 35 00:01:19,296 --> 00:01:22,256 - Come on, Kamie. - Oh...ly moly. 36 00:01:22,343 --> 00:01:24,519 [laughter] Aggressive. 37 00:01:24,606 --> 00:01:26,216 - Get. Get. 38 00:01:26,303 --> 00:01:27,783 - Ooh, ooh. [balloon pops] 39 00:01:27,870 --> 00:01:29,263 [laughs] - [shrieks] Ooh. 40 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:30,568 Son of a bitch. 41 00:01:30,655 --> 00:01:33,571 [laughter] 42 00:01:33,658 --> 00:01:36,226 [applause] 43 00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:41,797 That was good. - Whoo. 44 00:01:41,884 --> 00:01:43,668 You ready to start? 45 00:01:43,755 --> 00:01:45,279 - I'm ready. - OK. 46 00:01:45,366 --> 00:01:47,150 What do we got? 47 00:01:47,237 --> 00:01:49,239 "Hey, Nev and Kamie, my name is Ayla." 48 00:01:49,326 --> 00:01:50,849 - ♪ I've been counting ♪ 49 00:01:50,936 --> 00:01:53,548 - "I am 24 years old and live in Acworth, Georgia." 50 00:01:53,635 --> 00:01:55,158 - ♪ Minutes, hours ♪ 51 00:01:55,245 --> 00:01:57,769 - "I work as a medical technician, 52 00:01:57,856 --> 00:02:01,773 and I've been dating this girl named Gabby for over a year." 53 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:04,211 - ♪ You got a way with me ♪ 54 00:02:04,298 --> 00:02:06,126 - "We met on a lesbian dating app. 55 00:02:06,213 --> 00:02:10,260 "She's 25 and lives in Long island, New York. 56 00:02:10,347 --> 00:02:12,654 She's also incredibly beautiful, like a model." 57 00:02:12,741 --> 00:02:14,351 - Uh-oh. 58 00:02:14,438 --> 00:02:17,137 - "She has a hold on me like no one I've ever known." 59 00:02:17,224 --> 00:02:19,139 - ♪ Don't know what I would do ♪ 60 00:02:19,226 --> 00:02:21,489 ♪ If I would lose you ♪ 61 00:02:21,576 --> 00:02:23,230 - "And what makes it better is that she can 62 00:02:23,317 --> 00:02:26,015 "relate to me on a major level. 63 00:02:26,102 --> 00:02:28,583 "A big part of my life is about dealing 64 00:02:28,670 --> 00:02:30,498 with my sickle cell anemia." 65 00:02:30,585 --> 00:02:31,934 - Mm. 66 00:02:32,021 --> 00:02:34,458 - "When I found out that she has it too, 67 00:02:34,545 --> 00:02:36,895 "I finally had someone who understood me. 68 00:02:36,982 --> 00:02:39,028 And that never happens." 69 00:02:39,115 --> 00:02:41,465 - ♪ Love me ♪ 70 00:02:41,552 --> 00:02:43,511 ♪ Love me through the pain ♪ 71 00:02:43,598 --> 00:02:45,600 - "We're dating now, but I've been waiting 72 00:02:45,687 --> 00:02:48,646 for us to meet in person to make it exclusive." 73 00:02:48,733 --> 00:02:49,865 - Smart. 74 00:02:49,952 --> 00:02:51,997 - "But there are just some things 75 00:02:52,084 --> 00:02:54,913 "that make me wary about her. 76 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,959 "Since I've known her, there have been random times 77 00:02:57,046 --> 00:02:59,004 "she will just go ghost and we don't talk 78 00:02:59,091 --> 00:03:00,876 "for a few days or weeks. 79 00:03:00,963 --> 00:03:02,530 "And I never know why. 80 00:03:02,617 --> 00:03:04,793 She just says it's a mental health break." 81 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,013 - ♪ I know it's not easy ♪ 82 00:03:08,100 --> 00:03:12,104 - "When I try to FaceTime her, she either covers her camera 83 00:03:12,192 --> 00:03:14,150 or always has me on pause." - Hmm. 84 00:03:14,237 --> 00:03:17,545 - "I don't know what else to do because I want her to be mine. 85 00:03:17,632 --> 00:03:21,244 But if I don't know who she is, I can't do that." 86 00:03:21,331 --> 00:03:24,639 ♪ ♪ 87 00:03:24,726 --> 00:03:29,078 "I need help, Nev and Kamie. Your girl, Ayla." 88 00:03:29,165 --> 00:03:33,169 - ♪ Love me through the pain ♪ 89 00:03:33,256 --> 00:03:35,432 - I'm just going to say it. 90 00:03:35,519 --> 00:03:39,654 How convenient that this beautiful woman 91 00:03:39,741 --> 00:03:41,308 who looks like a model that you're 92 00:03:41,395 --> 00:03:45,399 talking to that you can't see also has this condition. 93 00:03:45,486 --> 00:03:49,141 You just can never be too certain in these situations. 94 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:50,882 And I would just-- 95 00:03:50,969 --> 00:03:52,449 I'm just saying. 96 00:03:52,536 --> 00:03:53,972 - All right, Ayla needs our help. 97 00:03:54,059 --> 00:03:56,148 So let's give her a ring-a-ding-ding. 98 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:58,368 [line trills] 99 00:03:59,978 --> 00:04:03,112 - Ayla! - [laughs] 100 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:04,374 - What's up? It's Nev and Kamie. 101 00:04:06,507 --> 00:04:08,204 - Hi. How's it going? 102 00:04:10,946 --> 00:04:12,469 - How are things in Georgia? 103 00:04:13,731 --> 00:04:14,689 - We just read your email. 104 00:04:14,776 --> 00:04:16,865 Obviously, you and Gabby 105 00:04:16,952 --> 00:04:18,997 have a lot in common and-- 106 00:04:19,084 --> 00:04:20,477 and sounds like the foundation 107 00:04:20,564 --> 00:04:23,306 for what could be a wonderful relationship. 108 00:04:23,393 --> 00:04:24,960 But something keeps getting in the way. 109 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:27,528 - OK, well, look, we want to help you. 110 00:04:27,615 --> 00:04:29,530 So we'll come down there. 111 00:04:29,617 --> 00:04:31,619 We'll get the scoop, and we'll see if we can help. 112 00:04:32,533 --> 00:04:34,752 - All right, we'll see you soon. 113 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:35,927 - Bye. - Bye. 114 00:04:37,407 --> 00:04:39,191 - Well, did you book the tickets 115 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,585 for the midnight train to Georgia? 116 00:04:41,672 --> 00:04:43,544 - Ah, train's leaving. 117 00:04:43,631 --> 00:04:45,415 - Choo-choo! 118 00:04:45,502 --> 00:04:48,592 - ♪ Colors, beautiful colors ♪ 119 00:04:48,679 --> 00:04:50,594 - All right, made it. 120 00:04:50,681 --> 00:04:53,902 Sunny, beautiful Georgia. - So nice. 121 00:04:53,989 --> 00:04:58,385 - We are in A-lanta to see Ayla 122 00:04:58,472 --> 00:05:00,648 because she's gabbing with Gabby. 123 00:05:00,735 --> 00:05:01,823 - Mm-hmm. 124 00:05:01,910 --> 00:05:04,565 Ayla has sickle cell anemia. - Right. 125 00:05:04,652 --> 00:05:08,786 - And Gabby, coincidentally, also has sickle cell. 126 00:05:08,873 --> 00:05:11,093 - Yeah, their shared struggle with sickle cell anemia 127 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:13,748 is actually one of the things they've really connected on. 128 00:05:13,835 --> 00:05:15,532 - Mm-hmm. 129 00:05:15,619 --> 00:05:17,752 - ♪ We're living bright, colors ♪ 130 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:18,840 - All right. 131 00:05:18,927 --> 00:05:20,972 Cute. 132 00:05:21,059 --> 00:05:23,148 - Very cute. 133 00:05:23,235 --> 00:05:24,498 Oh, she's outside. 134 00:05:24,585 --> 00:05:26,238 - Oh, you see her? - Yes. 135 00:05:26,326 --> 00:05:27,152 - Oh, there she is. 136 00:05:27,239 --> 00:05:29,546 - Hey! - Hi! 137 00:05:29,633 --> 00:05:31,026 - Good to see you. 138 00:05:31,113 --> 00:05:33,507 - You as well. 139 00:05:33,594 --> 00:05:35,813 - Good to meet you. I'm Kamie. - Hi. I'm Ayla. 140 00:05:35,900 --> 00:05:37,206 - Hey. - Nice to meet you. 141 00:05:37,293 --> 00:05:39,077 - Hi! - What's up? 142 00:05:39,164 --> 00:05:40,601 - Oh, my goodness, you're so cool. 143 00:05:40,688 --> 00:05:42,124 - [laughs] - OK. 144 00:05:42,211 --> 00:05:45,214 - Wow, super cute. 145 00:05:45,301 --> 00:05:47,390 [light music] 146 00:05:47,477 --> 00:05:49,697 - In all my years making this show... 147 00:05:49,784 --> 00:05:51,176 - Mm-hmm. 148 00:05:51,263 --> 00:05:54,919 - I'm not sure if anyone's ever used a blanket. 149 00:05:55,006 --> 00:05:56,747 But I love it! 150 00:05:56,834 --> 00:05:58,445 - Well, I feel like you probably have to, right? 151 00:05:58,532 --> 00:05:59,968 - Yeah. 152 00:06:00,055 --> 00:06:02,492 - For her sickle cell, 'cause you get cold often. 153 00:06:02,579 --> 00:06:04,407 Are your hands and feet always cold? 154 00:06:04,494 --> 00:06:06,148 - Yeah, hands and feet are always cold. 155 00:06:06,235 --> 00:06:09,325 And it hits my joints a lot. 156 00:06:09,412 --> 00:06:10,544 It's everyday chronic pain. - Yeah. 157 00:06:10,631 --> 00:06:12,763 - Like, I'm in pain every single day. 158 00:06:12,850 --> 00:06:14,896 - Wow. 159 00:06:14,983 --> 00:06:19,161 - But because I've had to be by myself since I was 16, 160 00:06:19,248 --> 00:06:21,903 I kind of know how to advocate for myself 161 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:23,295 in hospitals, 'cause a lot of doctors 162 00:06:23,383 --> 00:06:24,949 think that we're drug seekers. 163 00:06:25,036 --> 00:06:27,387 - You've been on your own since you were 16? 164 00:06:27,474 --> 00:06:28,344 Why? 165 00:06:28,431 --> 00:06:31,521 - After my dad passed away, 166 00:06:31,608 --> 00:06:36,265 my mom had a really hard time dealing with it, 167 00:06:36,352 --> 00:06:37,919 and we lost the house. 168 00:06:38,006 --> 00:06:40,138 So I had to start working since I was 16. 169 00:06:40,225 --> 00:06:42,706 And then I was homeless. 170 00:06:42,793 --> 00:06:44,839 So I was driving from, like, Atlanta 171 00:06:44,926 --> 00:06:47,058 to, like, my school fresh off of, like, 172 00:06:47,145 --> 00:06:51,715 license, going to work, driving back, like, every day. 173 00:06:51,802 --> 00:06:54,022 - That's a lot for a 16-year-old. 174 00:06:54,109 --> 00:06:55,763 - Sorry. 175 00:06:55,850 --> 00:06:58,766 [dramatic music] 176 00:06:58,853 --> 00:07:02,987 ♪ ♪ 177 00:07:03,074 --> 00:07:06,774 Yeah, it's, like, hard to live with it as an adult. 178 00:07:06,861 --> 00:07:08,166 And I'm, like, independent. 179 00:07:08,253 --> 00:07:11,909 So I just kind of have to, like, figure it out. 180 00:07:11,996 --> 00:07:13,650 ♪ ♪ 181 00:07:13,737 --> 00:07:15,783 - You've been through a lot. - Mm-hmm. 182 00:07:15,870 --> 00:07:19,830 - And obviously still going through a lot every day. 183 00:07:19,917 --> 00:07:23,399 But it sounds like you might have found one thing 184 00:07:23,486 --> 00:07:25,793 that makes life a little bit better. 185 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,664 - Mm-hmm. 186 00:07:27,751 --> 00:07:29,797 - Tell us about how you met Gabby... 187 00:07:29,884 --> 00:07:31,189 - Mm-hmm. - And what that's been like. 188 00:07:31,276 --> 00:07:32,713 - It's been great. 189 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,411 I met her on a lesbian dating app. 190 00:07:35,498 --> 00:07:37,848 At first, we were just getting to know each other, 191 00:07:37,935 --> 00:07:39,676 like, on a friendly level. 192 00:07:39,763 --> 00:07:42,505 Then it started to go into, like, a flirtatious level. 193 00:07:42,592 --> 00:07:45,377 And everything about her is just, like, top-tier, 194 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:48,859 like, even with my sickle cell, 'cause she can relate to it. 195 00:07:48,946 --> 00:07:51,253 She's the first one to ask me if I'm OK. 196 00:07:51,340 --> 00:07:53,603 She'll be on the phone with me on the way to the hospital, 197 00:07:53,690 --> 00:07:55,910 in the hospital all night, like, 198 00:07:55,997 --> 00:07:58,869 asking me if I need anything, even though she's not here. 199 00:07:58,956 --> 00:08:00,697 But, you know, just the fact that you're asking. 200 00:08:00,784 --> 00:08:03,047 Like, a lot of people don't ask me that. 201 00:08:03,134 --> 00:08:05,049 - How did you end up matching with somebody who lives 202 00:08:05,136 --> 00:08:06,790 all the way in Long Island? 203 00:08:06,877 --> 00:08:08,226 - So I'm from New York originally. 204 00:08:08,313 --> 00:08:10,272 - OK. - Yeah. 205 00:08:10,359 --> 00:08:11,795 So I'm always going back and forth. 206 00:08:11,882 --> 00:08:16,496 - So it's kind of just another lucky coincidence, 207 00:08:16,583 --> 00:08:18,541 not that I want to call having sickle cell lucky, 208 00:08:18,628 --> 00:08:20,543 but she also happens to live in New York, 209 00:08:20,630 --> 00:08:21,849 where you often go and are from. 210 00:08:21,936 --> 00:08:23,024 - Yeah. 211 00:08:23,111 --> 00:08:24,155 - Tell us a little bit about her. 212 00:08:24,242 --> 00:08:26,027 What does she do? What is she like? 213 00:08:26,114 --> 00:08:28,508 - So she--I know she's in school to be a nurse. 214 00:08:28,595 --> 00:08:30,205 - And you're in medical tech? - Yeah. 215 00:08:30,292 --> 00:08:32,033 - So you guys have that in common kind of too. 216 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,208 - Yeah, like... - I mean, it's not the same. 217 00:08:33,295 --> 00:08:34,209 - Medical history, but yeah. 218 00:08:34,296 --> 00:08:35,602 - And what is she like? 219 00:08:35,689 --> 00:08:37,429 Tell us about her-- her whole personality. 220 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:38,909 - She's so nurturing. 221 00:08:38,996 --> 00:08:40,694 And she's comforting. 222 00:08:40,781 --> 00:08:42,391 When I'm talking to her, I don't feel like 223 00:08:42,478 --> 00:08:44,262 I can think about anything else that's happening. 224 00:08:44,349 --> 00:08:47,352 Like, when I say we're on the phone all night laughing, 225 00:08:47,439 --> 00:08:50,530 like, cackling about the dumbest stuff. 226 00:08:50,617 --> 00:08:52,009 - How soon after you guys met 227 00:08:52,096 --> 00:08:54,142 did you start talking on the phone? 228 00:08:54,229 --> 00:08:56,448 - A couple days after. - Oh, so pretty fast. 229 00:08:56,536 --> 00:08:58,407 - Yeah, but as time went on, like, 230 00:08:58,494 --> 00:09:00,235 I just kept trying to FaceTime her. 231 00:09:00,322 --> 00:09:02,150 It'd be the same excuses: "I don't look too good," 232 00:09:02,237 --> 00:09:03,978 or, "I'm too busy to be, like, on FaceTime." 233 00:09:04,065 --> 00:09:06,023 Then she'll call me, like, regular phone. 234 00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:07,808 - Mm. 235 00:09:07,895 --> 00:09:08,852 - So then I'm like, if you're too busy to be on the phone, 236 00:09:08,939 --> 00:09:10,419 why'd you call? 237 00:09:10,506 --> 00:09:13,161 - And you'd only seen her pictures on the app, 238 00:09:13,248 --> 00:09:16,164 or had you guys exchanged, like, Instagrams or-- 239 00:09:16,251 --> 00:09:17,861 - We exchanged Instagrams. I have her Instagram. 240 00:09:17,948 --> 00:09:19,210 - OK. 241 00:09:19,297 --> 00:09:21,038 - She hasn't posted since 2022, though. 242 00:09:21,125 --> 00:09:23,911 - What about just sending each other pictures or videos, then? 243 00:09:23,998 --> 00:09:25,913 - I send her pictures of me all the time. 244 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,045 I've gotten, like, one. 245 00:09:28,132 --> 00:09:30,482 - That's weird. - Yes. 246 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:32,310 - Well, especially 'cause you describe her 247 00:09:32,397 --> 00:09:33,790 as being beautiful. 248 00:09:33,877 --> 00:09:34,922 - She's beautiful. 249 00:09:35,009 --> 00:09:36,271 - Like a model. - She's stunning. 250 00:09:36,358 --> 00:09:37,620 - When you say like a model, do you mean 251 00:09:37,707 --> 00:09:39,491 because her photos look like professional 252 00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:41,102 model photographs? 253 00:09:41,189 --> 00:09:43,147 - No, she's just really pretty. - OK, OK. 254 00:09:43,234 --> 00:09:44,845 - Have you guys ever planned to meet up? 255 00:09:44,932 --> 00:09:45,889 - Yeah, like, I'm from New York, 256 00:09:45,976 --> 00:09:48,544 so it's not anything weird if I just pop up. 257 00:09:48,631 --> 00:09:50,415 But we'll be on the phone talking about flights. 258 00:09:50,502 --> 00:09:53,027 As soon as, like, I'll be like, OK, I'm about to book it, 259 00:09:53,114 --> 00:09:54,550 something happens. - Hmm. 260 00:09:54,637 --> 00:09:56,378 - She's very vague with everything she tells me. 261 00:09:56,465 --> 00:09:58,554 Like, she'll ghost me for, like, a week or something, 262 00:09:58,641 --> 00:09:59,860 I'll be like, "Are you OK?" 263 00:09:59,947 --> 00:10:01,252 "Oh, yeah, I'm fine. 264 00:10:01,339 --> 00:10:02,471 I just needed a mental health break." 265 00:10:02,558 --> 00:10:03,951 - When was the first time she ghosted? 266 00:10:04,038 --> 00:10:06,127 - Maybe, like, two months of us talking. 267 00:10:06,214 --> 00:10:08,433 - And typically how long does she disappear for? 268 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,087 - Like, weeks. - Weeks? 269 00:10:10,174 --> 00:10:12,089 - Yeah, like, two weeks. 270 00:10:12,176 --> 00:10:13,787 And then she'll come back like nothing happened. 271 00:10:13,874 --> 00:10:16,267 - [laughs] 272 00:10:16,354 --> 00:10:17,486 That would burn me up. 273 00:10:17,573 --> 00:10:18,966 - I mean, that's infuriating. 274 00:10:19,053 --> 00:10:21,708 - Literally, I would be so irate, like. 275 00:10:21,795 --> 00:10:24,624 - How strong do you feel for her? 276 00:10:24,711 --> 00:10:25,712 - I love her. - You love her? 277 00:10:25,799 --> 00:10:27,061 - Do you guys say I love you? 278 00:10:27,148 --> 00:10:30,238 - I've never said it to her before, but I do. 279 00:10:30,325 --> 00:10:34,242 - Have you guys discussed what a future would look like? 280 00:10:34,329 --> 00:10:36,766 - Yeah, we would talk about, like, kids and stuff. 281 00:10:36,853 --> 00:10:38,202 - Oh, wow, like, really talk about it. 282 00:10:38,289 --> 00:10:40,378 I was just talking about, like, moving in together. 283 00:10:40,465 --> 00:10:43,077 - Atlanta or New York. - Right. 284 00:10:43,164 --> 00:10:44,731 - No, yeah, but we got to, like, the kids, 285 00:10:44,818 --> 00:10:46,210 about, like, who would carry the kids. 286 00:10:46,297 --> 00:10:47,734 - So you guys really, like, have talked 287 00:10:47,821 --> 00:10:49,649 about a future together. - Mm-hmm. 288 00:10:49,736 --> 00:10:51,476 - I'm curious to see what she looks like. 289 00:10:51,563 --> 00:10:53,609 - Oh, yeah. - Can we see her Instagram? 290 00:10:53,696 --> 00:10:54,654 - Sure. 291 00:10:54,741 --> 00:10:55,829 - Let's see. 292 00:10:55,916 --> 00:10:57,221 Gabby. 293 00:10:57,308 --> 00:10:58,788 She's cute. 294 00:10:58,875 --> 00:11:00,137 - Wow, all right. 295 00:11:00,224 --> 00:11:01,312 Oh, Brooklyn. 296 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:02,400 - Oh, yeah. 297 00:11:02,487 --> 00:11:04,576 - That's, like, Red Hook. 298 00:11:04,664 --> 00:11:06,361 - No tagged pictures. - Hmm. 299 00:11:06,448 --> 00:11:08,624 - Interesante. 300 00:11:08,711 --> 00:11:10,713 OK, let's see the texts. 301 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,063 ♪ ♪ 302 00:11:13,150 --> 00:11:14,848 [clears throat] 303 00:11:14,935 --> 00:11:16,893 You said, "You OK?" And she said, "Yeah, I'm OK. 304 00:11:16,980 --> 00:11:18,460 "Just extra tired. 305 00:11:18,547 --> 00:11:21,202 I get my transfusion Friday, so hopefully that helps." 306 00:11:21,289 --> 00:11:22,638 And then you said, "That should definitely help 307 00:11:22,725 --> 00:11:23,857 "with the fatigue you have. 308 00:11:23,944 --> 00:11:25,859 "Do you get admitted for yours, 309 00:11:25,946 --> 00:11:27,904 or do you like to go to your regular doctor's office?" 310 00:11:27,991 --> 00:11:30,254 And she said, "I go to a hematology clinic." 311 00:11:30,341 --> 00:11:31,516 So that's specific. 312 00:11:31,603 --> 00:11:33,257 - Mm-hmm, that is very convincing 313 00:11:33,344 --> 00:11:35,651 and would be really dark and messed up if she were... 314 00:11:35,738 --> 00:11:37,000 - It would be fucked up. - Pretending. 315 00:11:37,087 --> 00:11:38,349 - Yeah. 316 00:11:38,436 --> 00:11:39,611 - That would break my heart, and I would 317 00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:41,265 never speak to her ever again. 318 00:11:41,352 --> 00:11:44,138 - I really hope it's her. - Be messed up if it wasn't. 319 00:11:44,225 --> 00:11:46,357 - It would be really fucked up if it wasn't. 320 00:11:46,444 --> 00:11:48,925 - As of right now, I do like her. 321 00:11:49,012 --> 00:11:50,971 I do want her. 322 00:11:51,058 --> 00:11:54,061 I just don't want to make it exclusive 323 00:11:54,148 --> 00:11:56,193 if I don't know if she's who she is. 324 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,152 Like, I'm just not doing that. 325 00:11:58,239 --> 00:12:02,809 - Well, if she's a real person, I think we'd find something. 326 00:12:02,896 --> 00:12:04,114 - We're gonna find something. 327 00:12:04,201 --> 00:12:05,202 - All right, let's go. 328 00:12:05,289 --> 00:12:07,335 - Oh. 329 00:12:07,422 --> 00:12:08,379 - Nice to meet you. 330 00:12:08,466 --> 00:12:09,424 - You as well. 331 00:12:09,511 --> 00:12:10,860 - Good to meet you. 332 00:12:10,947 --> 00:12:12,079 - You as well. 333 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:13,341 - We'll see you tomorrow. 334 00:12:13,428 --> 00:12:14,908 - Drive safe. - Thank you. 335 00:12:14,995 --> 00:12:17,562 ♪ ♪ 336 00:12:17,649 --> 00:12:19,521 - What do you think? - I want it to work out. 337 00:12:19,608 --> 00:12:21,653 It seems like all the pieces are there, 338 00:12:21,741 --> 00:12:23,786 but there's something that is missing. 339 00:12:23,873 --> 00:12:26,310 - Everybody struggles to find their person. 340 00:12:26,397 --> 00:12:30,706 But for Ayla, it's extra hard because of her sickness. 341 00:12:30,793 --> 00:12:33,317 And the fact that she found someone who she can share that 342 00:12:33,404 --> 00:12:36,016 with, who understands and then can be supportive of her, 343 00:12:36,103 --> 00:12:37,104 I don't know what we're gonna find tomorrow, 344 00:12:37,191 --> 00:12:38,801 but we better find something, because this 345 00:12:38,888 --> 00:12:41,412 is too important to screw up. 346 00:12:53,511 --> 00:12:56,123 [upbeat music] 347 00:12:56,210 --> 00:12:59,343 - I pledge allegiance to the "Catfish" flag. 348 00:12:59,430 --> 00:13:01,389 - International Women's Day. 349 00:13:01,476 --> 00:13:03,130 - Good afternoon. 350 00:13:03,217 --> 00:13:04,653 - Oh, this place is nice. - This is cute! 351 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:06,220 - Yeah. - Oh, I love it. 352 00:13:06,307 --> 00:13:08,309 [grunts] 353 00:13:08,396 --> 00:13:11,442 - All right, so Ayla and Gabby met each other 354 00:13:11,529 --> 00:13:13,270 on a lesbian dating site. 355 00:13:13,357 --> 00:13:16,970 They're both struggling with sickle cell anemia. 356 00:13:17,057 --> 00:13:18,667 They can understand what they're going through in a way 357 00:13:18,754 --> 00:13:20,234 that very few people can. 358 00:13:20,321 --> 00:13:21,931 - Mm-hmm. 359 00:13:22,018 --> 00:13:24,020 - But it's also a little weird and wildly coincidental 360 00:13:24,107 --> 00:13:25,979 that when Ayla told Gabby she had sickle cell, 361 00:13:26,066 --> 00:13:27,981 Gabby said, "I have sickle cell." 362 00:13:28,068 --> 00:13:29,547 When Ayla was like, "I work in the medical field," 363 00:13:29,634 --> 00:13:31,636 Gabby was like, "So do I." 364 00:13:31,723 --> 00:13:33,290 "I'm from New York." "I live in New York." 365 00:13:33,377 --> 00:13:35,075 - Mm-hmm. 366 00:13:35,162 --> 00:13:36,250 - And maybe they're just perfect for each other. 367 00:13:36,337 --> 00:13:37,947 - Mm-hmm. 368 00:13:38,034 --> 00:13:40,384 - But also, maybe some of the things Gabby's saying 369 00:13:40,471 --> 00:13:43,257 is sort of based off of things that Ayla's telling her. 370 00:13:43,344 --> 00:13:44,911 - Yeah. 371 00:13:44,998 --> 00:13:46,347 - All right, we've got hopefully an email from Ayla. 372 00:13:46,434 --> 00:13:47,652 Yes, Gabby's info. 373 00:13:47,739 --> 00:13:49,654 OK, her name is Gabby [bleep]. 374 00:13:49,741 --> 00:13:51,700 She's 25, lives in Long Island. 375 00:13:51,787 --> 00:13:53,441 And her phone number. 376 00:13:53,528 --> 00:13:56,531 347, that's a New York area code. 377 00:13:56,618 --> 00:13:58,228 Her Instagram is [bleep] beauty. 378 00:13:58,315 --> 00:13:59,708 And there are some pictures attached. 379 00:13:59,795 --> 00:14:02,145 Thank you guys so much. 380 00:14:02,232 --> 00:14:06,062 Let's save these pictures to the DT. 381 00:14:06,149 --> 00:14:08,586 So she did send one selfie, OK. 382 00:14:08,673 --> 00:14:12,329 And there's a picture of her feet up somewhere, like a-- 383 00:14:12,416 --> 00:14:13,809 - Hookah lounge. - Something. 384 00:14:13,896 --> 00:14:14,854 - Yeah. 385 00:14:14,941 --> 00:14:16,072 - Oh, nice. 386 00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:18,292 All right, let's go to her Instagram. 387 00:14:18,379 --> 00:14:20,555 See if there's anything else we can get off of that. 388 00:14:20,642 --> 00:14:22,339 [dramatic music] 389 00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:24,254 OK, Gabby. 390 00:14:24,341 --> 00:14:25,952 - We should definitely pull one of these pictures. 391 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:27,605 - Right. 392 00:14:27,692 --> 00:14:29,607 - That comment was weird. 393 00:14:29,694 --> 00:14:32,219 There's nothing really personal about the comments. 394 00:14:32,306 --> 00:14:33,655 - Yeah, what's weird is that all the comments 395 00:14:33,742 --> 00:14:34,961 on her pictures, mostly everyone 396 00:14:35,048 --> 00:14:36,701 asking for collabs or, like-- 397 00:14:36,788 --> 00:14:38,268 - Spam. - Right. 398 00:14:38,355 --> 00:14:41,402 It's not a lot of personal or really anybody 399 00:14:41,489 --> 00:14:42,620 that looks like a friend. 400 00:14:42,707 --> 00:14:46,233 Should we run one of these? 401 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,975 Ooh. Anything? No. - Mm-mm. 402 00:14:49,062 --> 00:14:51,803 Maybe another picture from her Instagram. 403 00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:53,980 - All right, let's see. 404 00:14:54,067 --> 00:14:56,330 Nothing. Run another picture. 405 00:14:56,417 --> 00:14:58,071 - Yeah, that's what I think we should do. 406 00:14:58,158 --> 00:14:59,246 Run this one. 407 00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:00,377 This one's probably even better. 408 00:15:00,464 --> 00:15:01,901 All right, let's see. Search. 409 00:15:01,988 --> 00:15:03,641 - Nothing? - Nothing. 410 00:15:03,728 --> 00:15:05,730 What else do we even have? 411 00:15:05,817 --> 00:15:07,428 - Run the Instagram name, [bleep] beauty. 412 00:15:07,515 --> 00:15:09,299 - OK. 413 00:15:09,386 --> 00:15:11,867 - I imagine this is how Kamala feels with Joe. 414 00:15:11,954 --> 00:15:15,436 She just tells him what to do, and he does it. 415 00:15:15,523 --> 00:15:18,265 - Julissa [bleep]. 416 00:15:18,352 --> 00:15:19,831 Who the hell is that? 417 00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:21,659 26. - In Staten Island. 418 00:15:21,746 --> 00:15:24,488 - Ooh. [gasps] Staten Island. 419 00:15:24,575 --> 00:15:25,794 - She's from Long Island. - I mean, it's not Long Island, 420 00:15:25,881 --> 00:15:27,317 but it's New York. 421 00:15:27,404 --> 00:15:28,405 It's close. 422 00:15:28,492 --> 00:15:30,538 Maybe Ayla misheard her. 423 00:15:30,625 --> 00:15:31,800 She thought she said Long Island, 424 00:15:31,887 --> 00:15:33,149 but she actually said Staten Island. 425 00:15:33,236 --> 00:15:35,195 They haven't--I don't know. I'm just saying. 426 00:15:35,282 --> 00:15:36,979 It's an island in New York City area. 427 00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:38,720 I want to see Julissa [bleep]. 428 00:15:38,807 --> 00:15:40,287 Let's see who that is. 429 00:15:40,374 --> 00:15:42,724 City, New York City. 430 00:15:42,811 --> 00:15:44,160 OK, here we go. 431 00:15:44,247 --> 00:15:46,597 Whoa, there's only one spelled the right way. 432 00:15:46,684 --> 00:15:49,339 Oh, is that Gabby? 433 00:15:49,426 --> 00:15:51,124 Only one pic on here. 434 00:15:51,211 --> 00:15:52,342 But look, it kind of looks like her. 435 00:15:52,429 --> 00:15:54,040 The nose ring, the lip, right? 436 00:15:54,127 --> 00:15:56,390 - Why is her name Julissa [bleep]? 437 00:15:56,477 --> 00:15:57,695 What the hell? 438 00:15:57,782 --> 00:15:59,567 Well, this does say she's 26. 439 00:15:59,654 --> 00:16:00,916 - Is there anything else? That's it. 440 00:16:01,003 --> 00:16:02,657 That's all that's on this page. 441 00:16:02,744 --> 00:16:05,312 - I mean, is it just a fluke that the Instagram name 442 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:07,357 comes back to this person? 443 00:16:07,444 --> 00:16:10,317 - I mean, I would say yes, except I do really think 444 00:16:10,404 --> 00:16:13,015 that this girl who's around the right age, 445 00:16:13,102 --> 00:16:15,452 who lives in or was-- is from New York City 446 00:16:15,539 --> 00:16:17,498 looks a lot like Gabby. 447 00:16:17,585 --> 00:16:20,762 - Pull up that picture Ayla sent us of that hookah lounge. 448 00:16:20,849 --> 00:16:22,285 I want to see that. - Oh, right, right. 449 00:16:22,372 --> 00:16:24,418 So let's open that picture and enhance. 450 00:16:24,505 --> 00:16:26,637 ♪ ♪ 451 00:16:26,724 --> 00:16:28,161 - [bleep] Hookah Lounge. 452 00:16:28,248 --> 00:16:29,249 - [bleep]. 453 00:16:29,336 --> 00:16:30,902 - It looks like--yeah. 454 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:33,122 - Let's see. Where is that? 455 00:16:33,209 --> 00:16:34,819 [bleep] Hookah. 456 00:16:34,906 --> 00:16:36,430 - Mm-hmm. - Oh! 457 00:16:36,517 --> 00:16:37,822 - Staten Island. 458 00:16:37,909 --> 00:16:39,433 That's where Julissa is from. 459 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,304 - That definitely suggests a connection 460 00:16:41,391 --> 00:16:42,958 to the Julissa profile. 461 00:16:43,045 --> 00:16:46,614 - Why would she fake her name, first and last? 462 00:16:46,701 --> 00:16:49,530 - Well, because she doesn't want Ayla to find her. 463 00:16:49,617 --> 00:16:52,011 Maybe she's trying to hide something from her. 464 00:16:52,098 --> 00:16:54,143 If her name is Gabby [bleep], 465 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:55,710 I feel like we would have found her. 466 00:16:55,797 --> 00:16:57,233 - Maybe that's just her. 467 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,757 - Maybe. I'm not ruling that out. 468 00:16:59,844 --> 00:17:03,805 We haven't found anything that is overtly negative, right? 469 00:17:03,892 --> 00:17:07,417 Her Instagram randomly connected to some other name. 470 00:17:07,504 --> 00:17:09,898 And we happened to find a profile with one picture 471 00:17:09,985 --> 00:17:12,118 that does look a lot like her. 472 00:17:12,205 --> 00:17:13,728 - Could she have changed her name? 473 00:17:13,815 --> 00:17:15,251 - Could she live in Staten Island 474 00:17:15,338 --> 00:17:16,557 instead of Long Island? 475 00:17:16,644 --> 00:17:18,298 - I'm befuddled. 476 00:17:18,385 --> 00:17:21,170 - Now I'm way more confused than I was before we started. 477 00:17:22,171 --> 00:17:23,999 ♪ ♪ 478 00:17:24,086 --> 00:17:25,609 - Ding-dong. - Hey. 479 00:17:25,696 --> 00:17:27,046 - Hey! 480 00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:28,786 - Good to see you. - You as well. 481 00:17:28,873 --> 00:17:31,746 - You look straight out of a '90s rom-com. 482 00:17:31,833 --> 00:17:33,574 - Thank you. I try. 483 00:17:33,661 --> 00:17:35,532 - Well, we did some research. 484 00:17:35,619 --> 00:17:38,361 I think we probably now have more questions than answers, 485 00:17:38,448 --> 00:17:41,103 but we should go through it and decide what we think 486 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:42,496 is the appropriate next step. 487 00:17:42,583 --> 00:17:43,845 - Yeah. 488 00:17:43,932 --> 00:17:46,543 - All right, so you sent us this email. 489 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:49,242 And we thought, OK, let's just get right into it. 490 00:17:49,329 --> 00:17:51,722 And we went to her Instagram page. 491 00:17:51,809 --> 00:17:55,378 For the most part, all the comments on her photos 492 00:17:55,465 --> 00:17:57,641 seem to be pretty impersonal. 493 00:17:57,728 --> 00:17:59,252 - Promo or spam. 494 00:17:59,339 --> 00:18:01,689 There's nothing really personal about the comments, 495 00:18:01,776 --> 00:18:02,690 which is a little strange. - Yeah. 496 00:18:02,777 --> 00:18:04,561 That's weird. 497 00:18:04,648 --> 00:18:06,433 - We downloaded a few of the pictures to search, 498 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,174 but they don't come back to anybody anywhere. 499 00:18:08,261 --> 00:18:09,523 - Stupid. 500 00:18:09,610 --> 00:18:12,265 - So we didn't have a lot left to go off of, 501 00:18:12,352 --> 00:18:15,224 except for her Instagram handle. 502 00:18:15,311 --> 00:18:17,792 So we searched that, and we interestingly 503 00:18:17,879 --> 00:18:22,057 did get one hit for someone named Julissa [bleep]. 504 00:18:22,144 --> 00:18:23,624 That's not a name-- 505 00:18:23,711 --> 00:18:24,842 - I haven't heard that name. 506 00:18:24,929 --> 00:18:27,410 - When we go to Julissa's details, 507 00:18:27,497 --> 00:18:29,804 we see there is a Julissa [bleep] in New York, 508 00:18:29,891 --> 00:18:31,545 but she's in Staten Island. 509 00:18:31,632 --> 00:18:33,024 - 26. 510 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:34,678 - And is 26, which we thought, 511 00:18:34,765 --> 00:18:35,897 OK, well, that's pretty close. 512 00:18:35,984 --> 00:18:37,420 She said she's 25. - Mm-hmm. 513 00:18:37,507 --> 00:18:38,726 - Now, it could just be a coincidence, 514 00:18:38,813 --> 00:18:40,597 but the fact that there's a 26-year-old in Staten Island 515 00:18:40,684 --> 00:18:42,947 named Julissa seemed like worth looking into. 516 00:18:43,034 --> 00:18:45,211 - OK. - We went to Facebook. 517 00:18:45,298 --> 00:18:47,256 We looked up Julissa [bleep] in New York, 518 00:18:47,343 --> 00:18:50,085 and we did find one profile for someone that looked 519 00:18:50,172 --> 00:18:52,522 like it could maybe be Gabby. 520 00:18:52,609 --> 00:18:55,656 It's a super tight photo, but got the nose ring. 521 00:18:55,743 --> 00:18:57,440 She's got the lips. 522 00:18:57,527 --> 00:18:59,834 To me, it looked like it could be a younger her. 523 00:18:59,921 --> 00:19:01,792 - Same complexion. - Skin tone, yeah. 524 00:19:01,879 --> 00:19:04,230 - But it's at, like, really weird angle too. 525 00:19:04,317 --> 00:19:07,450 - Exactly. - Maybe it could be her. 526 00:19:07,537 --> 00:19:09,278 - It could be her. 527 00:19:09,365 --> 00:19:12,194 But if this is her, why is her name Julissa [bleep]? 528 00:19:12,281 --> 00:19:13,935 - Could it be that for some reason, 529 00:19:14,022 --> 00:19:16,242 her legal name is Julissa [bleep] 530 00:19:16,329 --> 00:19:17,808 but she doesn't go by that? - What? 531 00:19:17,895 --> 00:19:20,333 - We've had people who have changed their name online 532 00:19:20,420 --> 00:19:22,726 to avoid exes who they were trying 533 00:19:22,813 --> 00:19:24,815 to distance themselves from. - That makes sense, OK. 534 00:19:24,902 --> 00:19:27,601 - Or maybe she's lying about her name to cover something up, 535 00:19:27,688 --> 00:19:28,993 whether it's a relationship. 536 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,343 I don't know if she has a kid. 537 00:19:30,430 --> 00:19:31,257 - It could be anything. 538 00:19:31,344 --> 00:19:32,954 - I'm not playing stepmommy. 539 00:19:33,041 --> 00:19:34,695 - All right, well, let's not-- 540 00:19:34,782 --> 00:19:36,436 - Jump to conclusions. - Right. 541 00:19:36,523 --> 00:19:38,568 OK, but look at this. 542 00:19:38,655 --> 00:19:40,962 Kamie noticed that there was a logo 543 00:19:41,049 --> 00:19:44,879 on the back of this chair in this photo that Gabby sent you. 544 00:19:44,966 --> 00:19:46,402 - It's a hookah lounge. 545 00:19:46,489 --> 00:19:47,447 - Right, it's, like, the name of a hookah lounge. 546 00:19:47,534 --> 00:19:49,623 So we looked to see where that is. 547 00:19:49,710 --> 00:19:53,801 And when we looked it up, it's in Staten Island. 548 00:19:53,888 --> 00:19:55,324 - Hmm. 549 00:19:55,411 --> 00:19:56,673 - Now, that wouldn't have been so interesting, 550 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,761 except that we had just finished looking 551 00:19:57,848 --> 00:19:59,023 at a girl's profile who-- 552 00:19:59,110 --> 00:20:00,590 - Is in Staten Island. 553 00:20:00,677 --> 00:20:03,289 - And we know that Gabby was there. 554 00:20:03,376 --> 00:20:04,812 - Yeah. 555 00:20:04,899 --> 00:20:06,466 - 'Cause she sent you a picture from that place. 556 00:20:06,553 --> 00:20:08,163 - Mm-hmm. 557 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:10,165 - Not to say that going from Long Island to Staten Island 558 00:20:10,252 --> 00:20:12,341 is that hard, but it's just another thing 559 00:20:12,428 --> 00:20:14,952 that sort of points towards the Julissa profile. 560 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:16,215 - What do you make of it? 561 00:20:16,302 --> 00:20:17,564 - It's annoying. 562 00:20:17,651 --> 00:20:18,739 I mean, I want to find out. 563 00:20:18,826 --> 00:20:20,131 Like, I want to know, like, 564 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:21,481 are you lying to me about something? 565 00:20:21,568 --> 00:20:22,525 Are you hiding something? 566 00:20:22,612 --> 00:20:23,831 Are you hurt? - Mm-hmm. 567 00:20:23,918 --> 00:20:26,834 - What's going on here? 568 00:20:26,921 --> 00:20:28,401 What is it? 569 00:20:28,488 --> 00:20:30,359 - Well, I mean, at this point, I think the only way 570 00:20:30,446 --> 00:20:32,622 we're gonna get an answer is if we get it from her. 571 00:20:32,709 --> 00:20:34,581 ♪ ♪ 572 00:20:34,668 --> 00:20:37,671 Is it cool if I call her? - Go ahead. 573 00:20:37,758 --> 00:20:39,063 - All right, here we go. 574 00:20:39,150 --> 00:20:42,066 [line trilling] 575 00:20:42,153 --> 00:20:45,026 ♪ ♪ 576 00:20:46,854 --> 00:20:48,159 - Hey, is this Gabby? 577 00:20:50,118 --> 00:20:55,210 - This is Nev, one of the hosts of the show "Catfish." 578 00:20:55,297 --> 00:20:58,605 I am calling on behalf of Ayla 579 00:20:58,692 --> 00:21:03,044 because she was hoping we could help her finally meet you. 580 00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:15,970 - OK, when you say you don't know if she can handle it, 581 00:21:16,057 --> 00:21:17,232 what do you mean exactly? 582 00:21:20,583 --> 00:21:23,194 - OK, in terms of your feelings, though, 583 00:21:23,282 --> 00:21:25,414 how do you feel about Ayla? 584 00:21:29,810 --> 00:21:30,724 - Yeah. 585 00:21:34,467 --> 00:21:35,990 ♪ ♪ 586 00:21:39,733 --> 00:21:42,779 - How do you feel about Ayla? 587 00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:48,481 - Yeah. 588 00:21:51,832 --> 00:21:53,399 [dramatic music] 589 00:21:55,357 --> 00:21:56,793 - OK, I understand. 590 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,839 We could just sort of skip this part for the moment, 591 00:21:58,926 --> 00:22:03,191 and I could ask whether or not you would consider 592 00:22:03,278 --> 00:22:06,890 letting us come and meet you. 593 00:22:14,681 --> 00:22:16,726 - OK, well, great. 594 00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:20,034 So where would be a good place to meet? 595 00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:24,125 - OK, great. - [mouthing words] 596 00:22:24,212 --> 00:22:25,692 - So we're obviously in Atlanta now. 597 00:22:25,779 --> 00:22:28,738 If we flew up tomorrow, are you available? 598 00:22:30,958 --> 00:22:32,394 - Oh, great, OK. 599 00:22:32,481 --> 00:22:34,570 So we'll see you tomorrow. 600 00:22:36,093 --> 00:22:38,052 [line beeping] 601 00:22:38,139 --> 00:22:40,054 - I mean, that was a little weird 'cause normally, 602 00:22:40,141 --> 00:22:42,361 people are comfortable saying like, yeah, I have-- 603 00:22:42,448 --> 00:22:43,840 I really do have strong feelings 604 00:22:43,927 --> 00:22:45,625 for them or I love them. - I care about them. 605 00:22:45,712 --> 00:22:46,800 - Right. - Something. 606 00:22:46,887 --> 00:22:48,062 That was weird to me. 607 00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:49,150 - That was weird to me too. 608 00:22:49,237 --> 00:22:50,934 That kind of hurt my feelings. 609 00:22:51,021 --> 00:22:54,764 - She said, come meet me in Staten Island. 610 00:22:54,851 --> 00:22:55,896 - Right. 611 00:22:55,983 --> 00:22:57,245 - Not Long Island. - Right. 612 00:22:57,332 --> 00:22:58,899 - Staten Island. - All right. 613 00:22:58,986 --> 00:23:00,640 - Maybe the secret's that she lives in Staten Island, 614 00:23:00,727 --> 00:23:02,163 honestly. [laughter] 615 00:23:02,250 --> 00:23:04,818 That's a deal breaker for a lot of people. 616 00:23:04,905 --> 00:23:07,081 - ♪ Give me something to let go ♪ 617 00:23:07,168 --> 00:23:10,476 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 618 00:23:10,563 --> 00:23:11,651 ♪ Give me something to let go ♪ 619 00:23:11,738 --> 00:23:14,088 - Good morning! 620 00:23:14,175 --> 00:23:15,176 - Good news. 621 00:23:15,263 --> 00:23:16,960 She did text me today. 622 00:23:17,047 --> 00:23:18,875 She sent a park in Staten Island. 623 00:23:18,962 --> 00:23:21,095 She said, this place is close to where I live. 624 00:23:21,182 --> 00:23:22,139 Let me know when you guys are here. 625 00:23:22,226 --> 00:23:23,793 - OK. - So-- 626 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,925 - That's a good sign. 627 00:23:25,012 --> 00:23:26,753 - Let's get checked in. 628 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,886 - We only have a few bags, so it shouldn't take very long. 629 00:23:29,973 --> 00:23:33,847 - ♪ Give me something to let go ♪ 630 00:23:33,934 --> 00:23:34,804 - We're coming for you, Gabby. 631 00:23:34,891 --> 00:23:37,459 ♪ ♪ 632 00:23:37,546 --> 00:23:39,461 - ♪ Give me something to let go 633 00:23:39,548 --> 00:23:41,507 - We made it. New York, baby! 634 00:23:41,594 --> 00:23:44,379 - We're back home. 635 00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:46,120 - All right. 636 00:23:52,779 --> 00:23:54,084 OK. 637 00:23:54,171 --> 00:23:58,306 [tense music] 638 00:23:58,393 --> 00:24:01,483 - I will say, the weather has gotten progressively worse. 639 00:24:01,570 --> 00:24:03,050 I don't know if that means anything. 640 00:24:03,137 --> 00:24:05,095 ♪ ♪ 641 00:24:05,182 --> 00:24:06,401 How are you feeling? 642 00:24:06,488 --> 00:24:08,708 - I feel very conflicted. 643 00:24:08,795 --> 00:24:11,232 I feel like I have a lot of emotions. 644 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:12,886 If it's the girl in the pictures, 645 00:24:12,973 --> 00:24:14,453 of course I'm gonna be happy to see her. 646 00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:16,542 But in the back of my brain, I'm gonna be like, 647 00:24:16,629 --> 00:24:17,847 what do you have to say to me? 648 00:24:17,934 --> 00:24:19,545 It's you. 649 00:24:19,632 --> 00:24:22,722 Why? 650 00:24:22,809 --> 00:24:25,812 - OK, it's just a couple more blocks. 651 00:24:25,899 --> 00:24:27,770 - My heart is pounding out of my chest right now. 652 00:24:27,857 --> 00:24:30,556 - There it is. 653 00:24:30,643 --> 00:24:32,732 - It don't look like nobody's here. 654 00:24:32,819 --> 00:24:34,298 - I'm gonna say we just got to the park. 655 00:24:34,385 --> 00:24:36,039 [text message swooshes] 656 00:24:36,126 --> 00:24:38,912 - I mean, I definitely didn't see anyone. 657 00:24:38,999 --> 00:24:41,218 There's, like, a little covered gazebo. 658 00:24:41,305 --> 00:24:42,872 We could... - Stand in there, just wait. 659 00:24:42,959 --> 00:24:44,308 - Go stand in there for a minute and see if she comes. 660 00:24:44,395 --> 00:24:45,701 - OK. 661 00:24:45,788 --> 00:24:52,665 ♪ ♪ 662 00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:56,582 - Ooh, jeez. 663 00:24:56,669 --> 00:25:03,414 ♪ ♪ 664 00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:07,157 I guess now we just wait. 665 00:25:07,244 --> 00:25:10,247 - I guess so. 666 00:25:10,334 --> 00:25:12,989 - I'm gonna call her. 667 00:25:13,076 --> 00:25:16,384 [line trills] 668 00:25:16,471 --> 00:25:19,996 - Please leave your message for 347-- 669 00:25:20,083 --> 00:25:21,563 - Some bullshit. 670 00:25:21,650 --> 00:25:22,956 - I mean, yeah, if she's not gonna come, 671 00:25:23,043 --> 00:25:25,698 she should at least text you. 672 00:25:25,785 --> 00:25:27,743 - At least-- oh, wait, who's that? 673 00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:30,137 - That is someone walking into the park. 674 00:25:30,224 --> 00:25:32,095 - I can't see that far. 675 00:25:32,182 --> 00:25:34,010 Who is that? 676 00:25:36,447 --> 00:25:38,145 - How long we gonna wait? 677 00:25:38,232 --> 00:25:39,581 - You have your phone in case she messages you? 678 00:25:39,668 --> 00:25:40,843 - Mm-hmm. 679 00:25:40,930 --> 00:25:42,018 - I mean, yeah, if she's not gonna come, 680 00:25:42,105 --> 00:25:44,499 she should at least text you. 681 00:25:44,586 --> 00:25:46,632 - At least-- oh, wait, who's that? 682 00:25:46,719 --> 00:25:48,503 - There is someone walking into the park. 683 00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:50,505 - I can't see that far. 684 00:25:50,592 --> 00:25:52,899 - Can't tell. 685 00:25:52,986 --> 00:25:56,642 I mean, I don't know if it's a guy or a girl yet. 686 00:25:56,729 --> 00:25:58,078 Yeah, she's definitely coming up here. 687 00:25:58,165 --> 00:25:59,775 - I think it's her. - It's her? 688 00:25:59,862 --> 00:26:01,647 - I think it's her. - It does look like her, right? 689 00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:02,996 Oh, my God. 690 00:26:03,083 --> 00:26:04,824 - It's her. 691 00:26:04,911 --> 00:26:05,868 - Hi. - Hi. 692 00:26:05,955 --> 00:26:07,217 - Hi. - What's up? 693 00:26:07,304 --> 00:26:08,828 - How are you? - I'm good. How are you? 694 00:26:08,915 --> 00:26:09,916 - I'm Kamie. - Gabby. 695 00:26:10,003 --> 00:26:11,352 - Nice to meet you. 696 00:26:11,439 --> 00:26:13,310 - So your name really is Gabby? 697 00:26:13,397 --> 00:26:15,356 - Yeah. - Nev. 698 00:26:15,443 --> 00:26:17,967 - [laughs] I'm sorry. I'm nervous. 699 00:26:18,054 --> 00:26:20,274 - Here you are. - Yeah. 700 00:26:20,361 --> 00:26:21,231 - Here we are. - Hi. 701 00:26:21,318 --> 00:26:25,322 [mellow music] 702 00:26:25,409 --> 00:26:27,411 - This girl is fucked. You look pretty. 703 00:26:27,498 --> 00:26:29,500 - You smell good. Thank you. Welcome. 704 00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:31,285 - Thanks for coming. 705 00:26:31,372 --> 00:26:33,330 You had us on the edge of our seats. 706 00:26:33,417 --> 00:26:34,375 - Literally. 707 00:26:34,462 --> 00:26:35,898 What do you have to say? 708 00:26:35,985 --> 00:26:37,639 - Yeah, I mean, you're obviously you. 709 00:26:37,726 --> 00:26:40,990 - Yeah. - So we're very curious. 710 00:26:41,077 --> 00:26:43,906 - So I'll just say everything to get it out the way. 711 00:26:43,993 --> 00:26:47,606 So I am currently married. 712 00:26:47,693 --> 00:26:50,696 But I am separated from this person. 713 00:26:50,783 --> 00:26:52,436 [dramatic music] 714 00:26:52,523 --> 00:26:54,525 - How--OK, this is a lot. 715 00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:56,310 - Yeah, we're gonna need some dates and some timelines. 716 00:26:56,397 --> 00:26:57,703 - How long have you been separated? 717 00:26:57,790 --> 00:27:00,270 - We've been separated for a few years now. 718 00:27:00,357 --> 00:27:01,968 We're still working on a divorce. 719 00:27:02,055 --> 00:27:03,143 - OK. 720 00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:04,535 - Are you going to get a divorce? 721 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:06,276 - Yeah, we are planning to get a divorce. 722 00:27:06,363 --> 00:27:08,844 She is making it difficult on me, so... 723 00:27:08,931 --> 00:27:11,673 - OK. - That is a thing. 724 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,110 On top of that, I was in a relationship 725 00:27:14,197 --> 00:27:19,333 with somebody else, and... 726 00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:20,769 I am still in love with them. 727 00:27:20,856 --> 00:27:23,032 ♪ ♪ 728 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,555 - Wow. 729 00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:26,340 - Yeah, I was in a relationship. 730 00:27:26,427 --> 00:27:28,298 It ended last summer. 731 00:27:28,385 --> 00:27:30,126 - So you were in a relationship when you met her? 732 00:27:30,213 --> 00:27:31,562 - Yeah. 733 00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:32,955 - So if you were in a relationship, 734 00:27:33,042 --> 00:27:35,392 why did you, like, take it there with me? 735 00:27:35,479 --> 00:27:38,265 - I kind of just ended up, like, conversating with you, 736 00:27:38,352 --> 00:27:41,094 and things went from one thing to another. 737 00:27:41,181 --> 00:27:43,749 I was nervous 'cause I do like you. 738 00:27:43,836 --> 00:27:47,753 But obviously, like, I am still in love with my ex. 739 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,319 - You're still in love with her? 740 00:27:49,406 --> 00:27:51,974 - Yeah, and I'm still working on getting over her, 741 00:27:52,061 --> 00:27:54,803 so I kind of didn't want it to go any further. 742 00:27:54,890 --> 00:27:56,587 So that's kind of why I avoided kind of, 743 00:27:56,675 --> 00:27:58,241 like, you seeing me and building 744 00:27:58,328 --> 00:28:00,591 more of a connection with me. 745 00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:02,071 - That's fucked. 746 00:28:02,158 --> 00:28:04,683 OK. 747 00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:06,989 Is there anything else? 748 00:28:07,076 --> 00:28:08,991 - No, that's really it. 749 00:28:09,078 --> 00:28:10,819 - So when you started talking to Ayla, 750 00:28:10,906 --> 00:28:12,995 you were happy in your relationship? 751 00:28:13,082 --> 00:28:14,388 - Yeah, I was happy with my relationship. 752 00:28:14,475 --> 00:28:16,782 - And then at what point did you 753 00:28:16,869 --> 00:28:18,435 and your girlfriend break up? 754 00:28:19,175 --> 00:28:20,307 By the way, I'm just gonna walk away. 755 00:28:20,394 --> 00:28:27,183 ♪ ♪ 756 00:28:29,838 --> 00:28:31,927 - I think I should go with her. - OK. 757 00:28:33,929 --> 00:28:37,280 I do want to keep talking, but I also want Ayla to hear. 758 00:28:37,367 --> 00:28:39,674 - Yeah, I know it's a lot, yeah. 759 00:28:42,982 --> 00:28:45,811 - I'm sorry. - She's fucking married? 760 00:28:45,898 --> 00:28:47,334 And in love with her ex. 761 00:28:47,421 --> 00:28:48,944 What the fuck was that? 762 00:28:49,031 --> 00:28:50,206 - I don't know. 763 00:28:50,293 --> 00:28:52,687 I was not expecting that, at all. 764 00:28:52,774 --> 00:28:54,471 - Are you still in contact with your ex-girlfriend? 765 00:28:54,558 --> 00:28:57,083 - No, no, not at all. 766 00:28:57,170 --> 00:29:01,217 - But you would like to try to get back together with her? 767 00:29:01,304 --> 00:29:03,959 - I mean, I would like to, but I know that she's, 768 00:29:04,046 --> 00:29:05,569 like, completely done. 769 00:29:05,656 --> 00:29:07,920 - So aside from what you haven't told her, 770 00:29:08,007 --> 00:29:09,748 everything you have told her is true? 771 00:29:09,835 --> 00:29:10,836 - Yeah. 772 00:29:10,923 --> 00:29:13,099 - About yourself, about your age 773 00:29:13,186 --> 00:29:15,623 and, like, having sickle cell? 774 00:29:15,710 --> 00:29:17,581 - Yeah, everything else is real, yeah. 775 00:29:17,668 --> 00:29:20,671 - When we searched for you or tried to find anything we could 776 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:23,544 to confirm who you were, we found a Facebook page 777 00:29:23,631 --> 00:29:25,285 that looks a lot like you. 778 00:29:25,372 --> 00:29:27,113 Do you also go by Julissa? 779 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,115 - No, mm-mm. 780 00:29:29,202 --> 00:29:30,812 - OK. 781 00:29:30,899 --> 00:29:36,949 ♪ ♪ 782 00:29:37,036 --> 00:29:38,385 - [sighs] 783 00:29:38,472 --> 00:29:40,126 - Like, what the fuck? 784 00:29:40,213 --> 00:29:42,868 Just saying so fucking nonchalantly, oh, I'm married. 785 00:29:42,955 --> 00:29:45,348 - And I don't really know what she's expecting 786 00:29:45,435 --> 00:29:48,874 because of how, like, casual-- 787 00:29:48,961 --> 00:29:51,398 - Even off the hook, that shit, it just felt weird. 788 00:29:51,485 --> 00:29:54,531 Like, are you even excited to see me at this point? 789 00:29:54,618 --> 00:29:57,883 - So did you have any kind of hope for the future with Ayla, 790 00:29:57,970 --> 00:29:59,623 like, in terms of how it could go or-- 791 00:29:59,710 --> 00:30:01,277 - Yeah, I do. 792 00:30:01,364 --> 00:30:03,627 Hopefully, like, once I just get everything settled 793 00:30:03,714 --> 00:30:06,239 with my ex, and I feel like with a little bit more time, 794 00:30:06,326 --> 00:30:09,503 I hope that me and her are able to move forward. 795 00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:10,896 - You are attracted to her? 796 00:30:10,983 --> 00:30:12,201 - Yeah. - She's your type? 797 00:30:12,288 --> 00:30:13,594 - Mm-hmm. 798 00:30:13,681 --> 00:30:14,769 - Well, I do think that could have been 799 00:30:14,856 --> 00:30:16,292 expressed better to her. 800 00:30:16,379 --> 00:30:18,686 - I hope maybe when she calms down a little bit, 801 00:30:18,773 --> 00:30:20,731 we could probably have a one-on-one talk 802 00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:24,866 and see where things go. 803 00:30:24,953 --> 00:30:26,259 - Should we go, like, out there? 804 00:30:26,346 --> 00:30:27,826 Like, what? 'Cause-- 805 00:30:27,913 --> 00:30:29,697 - If you want to ask the questions, we definitely can. 806 00:30:29,784 --> 00:30:31,177 - Like, I don't know what-- 807 00:30:31,264 --> 00:30:33,266 I don't even know what to ask. 808 00:30:33,353 --> 00:30:34,615 I don't know. 809 00:30:34,702 --> 00:30:36,051 Let's just--let's just go. 810 00:30:36,138 --> 00:30:37,792 Let's just see what the vibe is. 811 00:30:37,879 --> 00:30:42,101 - From the information I have, it feels pretty fucked up... 812 00:30:42,188 --> 00:30:43,711 - Yeah. 813 00:30:43,798 --> 00:30:46,496 - That you strung her along and you didn't give her 814 00:30:46,583 --> 00:30:50,849 all the info and kind of just, like, selfishly liked 815 00:30:50,936 --> 00:30:53,068 having her there as this option. 816 00:30:53,155 --> 00:30:54,504 - Yeah, I get that. 817 00:30:54,591 --> 00:30:55,723 - And I don't imagine that feels very good. 818 00:30:55,810 --> 00:30:56,811 - Mm-hmm. - Hold on. 819 00:30:56,898 --> 00:30:58,073 They're coming back over. 820 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,120 ♪ ♪ 821 00:31:01,207 --> 00:31:04,123 - OK, what did we miss? 822 00:31:04,210 --> 00:31:05,820 - I was just asking more questions 823 00:31:05,907 --> 00:31:09,563 about what is and isn't true. 824 00:31:09,650 --> 00:31:12,348 Sounds like most of the things she told you were true. 825 00:31:12,435 --> 00:31:16,135 - OK, but just to confirm, having sickle cell 826 00:31:16,222 --> 00:31:18,006 is something that you deal with? 827 00:31:18,093 --> 00:31:19,355 - Yeah, I do have that, yeah. 828 00:31:19,442 --> 00:31:22,402 - So is that what attracted you to Ayla? 829 00:31:22,489 --> 00:31:23,794 - No, it wasn't only that. 830 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:25,622 Obviously, her personality as well, yeah. 831 00:31:25,709 --> 00:31:28,408 - But having somebody that you can relate to in that way? 832 00:31:28,495 --> 00:31:31,367 - Yeah, it's--it was a big part, yeah, 'cause, like, 833 00:31:31,454 --> 00:31:33,630 a lot of relationships I've been in, people would just, 834 00:31:33,717 --> 00:31:35,371 like, not be understanding of it and kind of 835 00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:37,112 also leave 'cause of that. 836 00:31:37,199 --> 00:31:38,984 Because not many people could deal 837 00:31:39,071 --> 00:31:40,420 with people who are in the hospital all the time 838 00:31:40,507 --> 00:31:41,943 and in pain. 839 00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:44,641 And--sorry. 840 00:31:44,728 --> 00:31:49,646 ♪ ♪ 841 00:31:49,733 --> 00:31:51,692 Yeah, so she kind of was just somebody who, like, understood, 842 00:31:51,779 --> 00:31:55,261 like, what I go through. 843 00:31:55,348 --> 00:31:57,654 And I didn't want to lose that. 844 00:31:57,741 --> 00:32:00,396 ♪ ♪ 845 00:32:00,483 --> 00:32:02,833 - I'm sorry, and we are sympathetic to the fact 846 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:07,229 that you deal with and struggle with this. 847 00:32:07,316 --> 00:32:10,406 - Gabby, is there anything else you want to say to Ayla? 848 00:32:10,493 --> 00:32:12,408 - I'm just sorry, honestly. 849 00:32:12,495 --> 00:32:13,583 I should have just told you. 850 00:32:13,670 --> 00:32:17,848 ♪ ♪ 851 00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:19,502 - And there's nothing else? 852 00:32:19,589 --> 00:32:21,678 - No, that's really everything. 853 00:32:21,765 --> 00:32:24,986 - Well, look, I think there is more that needs to be said. 854 00:32:25,073 --> 00:32:28,337 So maybe we can give Ayla some time 855 00:32:28,424 --> 00:32:31,384 and you could be available to meet us again tomorrow. 856 00:32:31,471 --> 00:32:33,342 - Yeah. - OK. 857 00:32:33,429 --> 00:32:35,170 - OK, yeah. 858 00:32:35,257 --> 00:32:37,433 All right, well, I'll be in touch with you. 859 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,479 So hopefully, see you tomorrow. - OK, see you. 860 00:32:39,566 --> 00:32:42,047 - ♪ I feel you near and dear to my heart ♪ 861 00:32:42,134 --> 00:32:43,700 ♪ I gave you love ♪ 862 00:32:43,787 --> 00:32:46,573 ♪ And you gave me this fear after dark ♪ 863 00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:48,270 - Jesus Christ. 864 00:32:48,357 --> 00:32:49,532 She's very upset. 865 00:32:49,619 --> 00:32:50,969 She's definitely hurt. 866 00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:52,535 - Yeah, I don't blame her. 867 00:32:52,622 --> 00:32:54,581 The thing is, when I was with Gabby alone, 868 00:32:54,668 --> 00:32:57,062 she was, like, open to some future with her. 869 00:32:57,149 --> 00:32:58,933 And when you guys got back, she had nothing. 870 00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:01,153 - ♪ I gave you trust ♪ 871 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,893 ♪ You disappeared ♪ 872 00:33:02,981 --> 00:33:04,721 ♪ I gave you love ♪ 873 00:33:04,808 --> 00:33:06,941 ♪ You gave me fear ♪ 874 00:33:07,028 --> 00:33:08,551 ♪ I gave you trust ♪ 875 00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:14,905 [knocking on door] 876 00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:16,690 - Hey. - Good morning. 877 00:33:16,777 --> 00:33:18,257 - Hey. Good morning. 878 00:33:18,344 --> 00:33:21,173 - [sighs] All right, how was your night? 879 00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:22,565 Anything to report? 880 00:33:22,652 --> 00:33:24,219 - I didn't sleep. 881 00:33:24,306 --> 00:33:26,874 Think my mind was just racing-- 882 00:33:26,961 --> 00:33:30,051 questions, concerns. 883 00:33:30,138 --> 00:33:32,619 Obviously, I didn't say a lot last night. 884 00:33:32,706 --> 00:33:35,752 I don't think I really knew what to say. 885 00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:37,493 The energy was off. 886 00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:40,192 Like, I didn't feel like she was excited to see me at all. 887 00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:43,108 Like, it just felt like, oh, I'm married, by the way. 888 00:33:43,195 --> 00:33:44,935 - She probably shouldn't have led with that. 889 00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:46,546 - Well, yesterday when I talked to her alone, 890 00:33:46,633 --> 00:33:48,983 she acted like she does have feelings for you. 891 00:33:49,070 --> 00:33:51,159 It seems like she doesn't know what she wants. 892 00:33:51,246 --> 00:33:53,596 Who knows what she'll say today? 893 00:33:53,683 --> 00:33:56,251 Maybe she'll say, oh, my God, I realize how dumb I've been. 894 00:33:56,338 --> 00:33:57,513 You're so amazing, and I can't believe 895 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,645 I'm still hung up on this ex. 896 00:33:58,732 --> 00:34:00,038 I'm so sorry. 897 00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:02,823 I'd love to give this a try. 898 00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:05,652 - But I'm not opposed to meeting with her again 899 00:34:05,739 --> 00:34:07,567 'cause there's questions. 900 00:34:07,654 --> 00:34:10,265 - Let me just text her to see if we can meet. 901 00:34:10,352 --> 00:34:12,398 - I'll be open-minded. [text messages swooshing] 902 00:34:12,485 --> 00:34:15,444 - She said, OK, sounds good, and she sent her address. 903 00:34:15,531 --> 00:34:16,880 - OK. 904 00:34:16,967 --> 00:34:19,622 - All right, well, let's do it. 905 00:34:19,709 --> 00:34:21,146 - We got to talk to her. 906 00:34:23,278 --> 00:34:26,194 [dramatic music] 907 00:34:26,281 --> 00:34:27,630 ♪ ♪ 908 00:34:27,717 --> 00:34:29,284 - I'm getting nervous. 909 00:34:29,371 --> 00:34:32,548 - Nervous to see her or nervous for what she's gonna say? 910 00:34:32,635 --> 00:34:34,376 - Both. 911 00:34:34,463 --> 00:34:36,944 ♪ ♪ 912 00:34:37,031 --> 00:34:39,381 - All right, this is it. 913 00:34:39,468 --> 00:34:44,995 ♪ ♪ 914 00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:46,519 [doorbell rings] 915 00:34:46,606 --> 00:34:48,173 - Hi. 916 00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:49,304 - Hello. 917 00:34:49,391 --> 00:34:50,653 - You're good to come in. 918 00:34:50,740 --> 00:34:53,874 - Good to see you again. 919 00:34:53,961 --> 00:34:56,964 - Oh, thanks for having us over. 920 00:34:57,051 --> 00:34:59,619 Obviously, last night was a bit hectic. 921 00:34:59,706 --> 00:35:01,360 You kind of dropped a bomb. 922 00:35:01,447 --> 00:35:05,929 So I think we were hoping today to hear a little bit more 923 00:35:06,016 --> 00:35:08,671 from you, gave Ayla a chance to also 924 00:35:08,758 --> 00:35:11,239 express a little bit more to you. 925 00:35:11,326 --> 00:35:14,808 - So what was the point, like, with me? 926 00:35:14,895 --> 00:35:16,331 Like, what was the point? 927 00:35:16,418 --> 00:35:18,159 If you knew that you didn't want a relationship, 928 00:35:18,246 --> 00:35:20,335 why did you-- 929 00:35:20,422 --> 00:35:24,513 - You are an important person to me. 930 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,995 I didn't want to lose you 'cause I do like you. 931 00:35:28,082 --> 00:35:31,390 You are a person that I would date. 932 00:35:31,477 --> 00:35:35,524 But I'm literally emotionally unavailable. 933 00:35:35,611 --> 00:35:38,136 - It just doesn't-- makes no sense, 934 00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:42,662 the way you say that you can't date me or give me 100%. 935 00:35:42,749 --> 00:35:45,882 It's just like, the messages and how you talk to me 936 00:35:45,969 --> 00:35:47,884 does not give that. 937 00:35:47,971 --> 00:35:50,278 - I get that, but, like, 938 00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:52,889 there's actually, like, more of that that I could give. 939 00:35:52,976 --> 00:35:54,456 Like, that's like, bare-- 940 00:35:54,543 --> 00:35:58,591 I'm gonna be honest, like, it's bare minimum. 941 00:35:58,678 --> 00:36:02,377 The fact that I do go ghost on you here and there, 942 00:36:02,464 --> 00:36:04,249 it's something that I would never do 943 00:36:04,336 --> 00:36:07,426 to somebody that, like, I'm, like, really dating. 944 00:36:07,513 --> 00:36:10,255 ♪ ♪ 945 00:36:10,342 --> 00:36:12,039 - You understand how confusing that is 946 00:36:12,126 --> 00:36:14,084 for her to hear 'cause... - No, I know. 947 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:17,653 - She knew that you guys were not, like, official. 948 00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:20,526 She still felt like she was giving you as much 949 00:36:20,613 --> 00:36:24,007 as she felt like she should and getting back 950 00:36:24,094 --> 00:36:27,185 what felt like a very significant piece of you. 951 00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:28,751 You understand that it hurts for her to hear that, like, oh, 952 00:36:28,838 --> 00:36:32,102 this was, like, hardly even what you would consider, 953 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:35,280 like, a meaningful connection? 954 00:36:35,367 --> 00:36:37,543 - It just seemed like you just was bored 955 00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:39,806 and you knew that I was there. 956 00:36:39,893 --> 00:36:41,329 - Yeah. 957 00:36:41,416 --> 00:36:44,332 - All this was very pointless. 958 00:36:44,419 --> 00:36:46,726 - Like, you are somebody who's, like, 959 00:36:46,813 --> 00:36:50,686 literally been there for me through-- 960 00:36:50,773 --> 00:36:52,514 through everything that I've gone through, 961 00:36:52,601 --> 00:36:54,560 always checking up on me. 962 00:36:54,647 --> 00:36:57,476 And I kind of don't have, like, anybody else 963 00:36:57,563 --> 00:36:59,739 in my life like that. 964 00:36:59,826 --> 00:37:02,220 Like, I really do appreciate that 'cause you're-- 965 00:37:02,307 --> 00:37:04,526 you're genuinely a great person. 966 00:37:04,613 --> 00:37:08,095 And on my behalf, I feel like if I told you, 967 00:37:08,182 --> 00:37:11,403 like, I'm married or I'm in a relationship or not, 968 00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:13,492 I was scared that, like, you were just gonna leave 969 00:37:13,579 --> 00:37:16,103 'cause I don't want you, like, to not be in my life 970 00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:18,932 'cause I do care about you. 971 00:37:19,019 --> 00:37:21,021 - So what you just said, you're selfish. 972 00:37:21,108 --> 00:37:22,457 You don't give a fuck. 973 00:37:22,544 --> 00:37:25,068 This whole time, you were fucking married. 974 00:37:25,155 --> 00:37:26,896 You were in a relationship. 975 00:37:26,983 --> 00:37:29,421 But you're talking to me like you want to be my girlfriend. 976 00:37:29,508 --> 00:37:31,205 You were the only person that I had in my life 977 00:37:31,292 --> 00:37:33,512 that actually cared. 978 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:35,818 But to realize you fucking didn't care. 979 00:37:35,905 --> 00:37:36,993 - No, it's not that. - You don't give a fuck. 980 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:37,951 - I do care. - You don't. 981 00:37:38,038 --> 00:37:39,213 - I do. - You don't. 982 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:40,606 - I do care. - You don't. 983 00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:42,434 'Cause if you did, you would have told me. 984 00:37:42,521 --> 00:37:44,436 It could have been an easy text. 985 00:37:44,523 --> 00:37:46,742 Hey, I don't think I'm ready right now for a relationship. 986 00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:49,179 ♪ ♪ 987 00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:51,834 All this shit could have been avoided 988 00:37:51,921 --> 00:37:53,096 if you were just honest. 989 00:37:53,183 --> 00:37:59,842 ♪ ♪ 990 00:37:59,929 --> 00:38:02,323 - Yeah. 991 00:38:02,410 --> 00:38:04,543 You're right about everything. 992 00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:06,284 I should have just been honest with you from the jump. 993 00:38:06,371 --> 00:38:09,025 I would have avoided all this. 994 00:38:09,112 --> 00:38:10,592 I do care about you. 995 00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:12,246 I would love to form a friendship with you 996 00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:13,769 if you're even open to that. 997 00:38:13,856 --> 00:38:15,510 If you're not, I'm very understand-- 998 00:38:15,597 --> 00:38:16,990 I understand. 999 00:38:17,077 --> 00:38:19,732 - Well, knowing what I know now, 1000 00:38:19,819 --> 00:38:22,996 I don't think it would be any type of relationship. 1001 00:38:23,083 --> 00:38:25,651 I'm obviously hurt. 1002 00:38:25,738 --> 00:38:28,480 - That's understandable. 1003 00:38:28,567 --> 00:38:31,178 - But still knowing that we go through the same thing 1004 00:38:31,265 --> 00:38:34,529 every day, if you need me in that way, 1005 00:38:34,616 --> 00:38:37,445 I'll be there for you 'cause I know how it can get. 1006 00:38:37,532 --> 00:38:38,707 I'm not that kind of person. 1007 00:38:38,794 --> 00:38:40,535 [pop music] 1008 00:38:40,622 --> 00:38:42,624 - ♪ I hate it when I'm gone ♪ 1009 00:38:42,711 --> 00:38:44,365 - All right. 1010 00:38:44,452 --> 00:38:46,236 - ♪ But at least I'll admit it ♪ 1011 00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:48,543 - OK. 1012 00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:50,980 - ♪ Headlights to a collision ♪ 1013 00:38:51,067 --> 00:38:52,678 ♪ And we could turn it on ♪ 1014 00:38:52,765 --> 00:38:54,897 - I'm sorry. 1015 00:38:54,984 --> 00:38:57,900 - It's OK. 1016 00:38:57,987 --> 00:38:59,728 - Good meeting you. - You too. 1017 00:38:59,815 --> 00:39:02,340 - Nice to meet you. 1018 00:39:02,427 --> 00:39:04,124 - ♪ I know ♪ 1019 00:39:04,211 --> 00:39:07,257 ♪ I got issues too ♪ 1020 00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:08,955 ♪ Trust me ♪ 1021 00:39:09,042 --> 00:39:10,609 ♪ Now that you're gone ♪ 1022 00:39:10,696 --> 00:39:12,828 ♪ It's never been easier to move on ♪ 1023 00:39:12,915 --> 00:39:15,265 - How do you feel? 1024 00:39:15,353 --> 00:39:17,267 - Upset. 1025 00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:18,747 - ♪ Everything's better now that you're gone ♪ 1026 00:39:18,834 --> 00:39:22,621 - Looking to the future, if you do stay in touch, 1027 00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:25,406 you think you'll be able to be friends with her? 1028 00:39:25,493 --> 00:39:26,494 - Maybe. 1029 00:39:26,581 --> 00:39:28,409 - ♪ Now that you're gone ♪ 1030 00:39:28,496 --> 00:39:30,716 ♪ ♪ 1031 00:39:30,803 --> 00:39:33,022 ♪ Everything's better now that you're gone ♪ 1032 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:34,067 [computer rings] 1033 00:39:34,154 --> 00:39:36,069 - Hello. - Hey. 1034 00:39:36,156 --> 00:39:37,679 You're looking as beautiful as ever. 1035 00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:38,985 - Thank you. 1036 00:39:39,072 --> 00:39:40,378 - I hope you're feeling beautiful. 1037 00:39:42,075 --> 00:39:44,033 - Oh, no, really? 1038 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,774 - Yeah, I was there for 12 days, but I'm OK now. 1039 00:39:45,861 --> 00:39:47,820 - Wow, while you were in the hospital 1040 00:39:47,907 --> 00:39:50,779 and since we filmed, have you and Gabby talked? 1041 00:39:50,866 --> 00:39:52,172 - I did reach out. 1042 00:39:52,259 --> 00:39:53,869 I did, 'cause I was like, 1043 00:39:53,956 --> 00:39:56,045 I had no one else to really understand me. 1044 00:39:56,132 --> 00:39:59,614 So I did text her, but it's not how it was before. 1045 00:39:59,701 --> 00:40:00,876 - And you're OK with that? - Yeah. 1046 00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:04,271 But other than that-- 1047 00:40:04,358 --> 00:40:06,491 - Well, it was an unfortunate circumstance, 1048 00:40:06,578 --> 00:40:08,971 but I think you handled it really well. 1049 00:40:09,058 --> 00:40:10,277 - Thank you. 1050 00:40:10,364 --> 00:40:11,496 - And I'm glad you're feeling better. 1051 00:40:11,583 --> 00:40:12,671 And I hope you have a nice summer. 1052 00:40:12,758 --> 00:40:13,889 - Thank you. You as well. 1053 00:40:13,976 --> 00:40:15,238 - All right, Ayla. 1054 00:40:15,325 --> 00:40:16,892 Bye. 1055 00:40:16,979 --> 00:40:17,980 [computer rings] - Hello. 1056 00:40:18,067 --> 00:40:19,329 - What's up, Gabby? 1057 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:20,940 - I've had better days. - Oh. 1058 00:40:21,027 --> 00:40:23,116 - I was in the hospital for, like, 10 days. 1059 00:40:23,203 --> 00:40:24,552 - Wait, 'cause I just talked to Ayla, 1060 00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:26,119 and she just got out of the hospital. 1061 00:40:26,206 --> 00:40:27,903 - Yeah, we was in the hospital at the same time. 1062 00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:29,252 - Wow. Man, sorry. 1063 00:40:29,339 --> 00:40:31,385 Well, aside from your physical health, 1064 00:40:31,472 --> 00:40:33,735 how are things in the aftermath 1065 00:40:33,822 --> 00:40:36,216 of the whole situation with Ayla? 1066 00:40:36,303 --> 00:40:37,739 - At first, it was a little rough, 1067 00:40:37,826 --> 00:40:39,175 but, like, now I feel like me and Ayla 1068 00:40:39,262 --> 00:40:40,829 have gotten to a better place. 1069 00:40:40,916 --> 00:40:42,527 - OK. 1070 00:40:42,614 --> 00:40:44,180 - I mean, I still feel bad about it 'cause I don't 1071 00:40:44,267 --> 00:40:45,530 feel like the way I went about it was appropriate. 1072 00:40:45,617 --> 00:40:46,356 So I do still feel bad about it. 1073 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:48,576 - Right. 1074 00:40:48,663 --> 00:40:49,882 - I feel like right now, I'm really just focused on myself. 1075 00:40:49,969 --> 00:40:51,405 - That's good. 1076 00:40:51,492 --> 00:40:53,625 Sorry things didn't go 1077 00:40:53,712 --> 00:40:55,714 exactly how we may have thought they would, 1078 00:40:55,801 --> 00:40:57,455 but I do think it was for the best. 1079 00:40:57,542 --> 00:41:00,283 And I'm glad you guys got to meet and clear the air. 1080 00:41:00,370 --> 00:41:01,284 And I'm happy that you're still in touch. 1081 00:41:01,371 --> 00:41:03,025 - Yeah, thank you. 1082 00:41:03,112 --> 00:41:05,114 - All right, bye, Gabby. - Bye. 1083 00:41:08,030 --> 00:41:09,205 - Omar is a very sweet, geeky guy. 1084 00:41:09,292 --> 00:41:10,990 He's head over heels for this gorgeous girl 1085 00:41:11,077 --> 00:41:13,819 named Iris, who also happens to be an uber nerd. 1086 00:41:13,906 --> 00:41:15,473 - Let's run the pictures. 1087 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,170 - Holy moly! - Who is that? 1088 00:41:17,257 --> 00:41:18,780 - She's typing. She's typing. [text message swooshes] 1089 00:41:18,867 --> 00:41:20,652 - What the fuck? 1090 00:41:20,739 --> 00:41:23,263 The anticipation's killing me. I don't see nobody. 1091 00:41:23,350 --> 00:41:24,264 - Oh, wait a second. Who's that? 1092 00:41:24,351 --> 00:41:25,918 - Oh, shit.