1 00:00:07,141 --> 00:00:09,110 - * MTV * 2 00:00:09,177 --> 00:00:11,579 - Omar is a very sweet, geeky guy. 3 00:00:11,645 --> 00:00:13,747 He's head over heels for this gorgeous girl 4 00:00:13,814 --> 00:00:16,517 named Iris, who also happens to be an uber nerd. 5 00:00:16,584 --> 00:00:18,252 - Let's run the pictures. 6 00:00:18,319 --> 00:00:20,521 - Holy moly. - Who is that? 7 00:00:20,588 --> 00:00:22,123 - She's typing. She's typing. 8 00:00:22,190 --> 00:00:23,724 - What the fuck? 9 00:00:23,791 --> 00:00:26,494 - She said meet her by the flagpole. 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,129 - The anticipation is killing me. 11 00:00:28,196 --> 00:00:30,498 Jesus. I don't see nobody. 12 00:00:30,564 --> 00:00:31,499 - Oh, wait a second. Who's that? 13 00:00:31,565 --> 00:00:33,301 - Oh, shit. 14 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:35,903 [dramatic musical sting] 15 00:00:35,969 --> 00:00:36,870 - All right, ready? - Chopstick. 16 00:00:36,937 --> 00:00:38,206 - One, two, three, up. - Juggle. 17 00:00:38,272 --> 00:00:40,274 - All right. 18 00:00:40,341 --> 00:00:41,742 - Slow and steady. Slow and steady. 19 00:00:41,809 --> 00:00:44,044 Slow and steady wins the race. 20 00:00:44,112 --> 00:00:46,247 - [blows] - Ah! 21 00:00:46,314 --> 00:00:47,615 Ooh, no! 22 00:00:47,681 --> 00:00:49,083 - Part of it, you're allowed to blow. 23 00:00:49,150 --> 00:00:50,318 - No, you're not! 24 00:00:50,384 --> 00:00:51,852 You can't make up rules. 25 00:00:51,919 --> 00:00:53,587 No! 26 00:00:53,654 --> 00:00:55,356 - I think I won. I won. 27 00:00:55,423 --> 00:00:56,390 I won! 28 00:00:56,457 --> 00:00:58,326 Yay. 29 00:00:58,392 --> 00:01:01,495 [applause] 30 00:01:01,562 --> 00:01:03,164 - I was close. 31 00:01:03,231 --> 00:01:07,235 - Now that I've had my win for the day, shall we? 32 00:01:07,301 --> 00:01:08,469 - We shall. 33 00:01:08,536 --> 00:01:10,504 - See what's bubbling up in the old email. 34 00:01:10,571 --> 00:01:12,773 "What's up, Nev and Kamie? My name is Omar." 35 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,042 - * It's so good to meet you * 36 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:18,712 - "I'm 23, live in New City, New York, 37 00:01:18,779 --> 00:01:22,183 and work at a sandpaper factory." 38 00:01:22,250 --> 00:01:23,184 - Sounds rough. 39 00:01:23,251 --> 00:01:24,852 [laughter] 40 00:01:24,918 --> 00:01:28,021 - "Around six months ago, my friend 41 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:32,493 "posted my handle on social media for a Followback Friday. 42 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,928 "And this gorgeous girl named Iris 43 00:01:34,995 --> 00:01:36,864 started following me and messaging me." 44 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:40,468 - * Week five with you by my side * 45 00:01:40,534 --> 00:01:42,002 - "She's 22, 46 00:01:42,069 --> 00:01:45,005 "and she lives 45 minutes from me in the Bronx. 47 00:01:45,072 --> 00:01:48,176 "I knew right away that this girl was amazing. 48 00:01:48,242 --> 00:01:50,544 No joke, I won the lottery." 49 00:01:50,611 --> 00:01:52,380 - * Oh, we've got it * 50 00:01:52,446 --> 00:01:54,215 * Yeah, yeah, we've got it * 51 00:01:54,282 --> 00:01:56,284 - "She likes all the same stuff I like-- 52 00:01:56,350 --> 00:02:00,154 "video games, TV shows, even anime stuff. 53 00:02:00,221 --> 00:02:02,055 I want to make her my girlfriend." 54 00:02:02,122 --> 00:02:03,891 - * We could be friends * 55 00:02:03,957 --> 00:02:06,927 - "But every time we try to meet or FaceTime"... 56 00:02:06,994 --> 00:02:08,896 - * We could be friends * 57 00:02:08,962 --> 00:02:11,232 - "There's an excuse." - Of course. 58 00:02:11,299 --> 00:02:13,834 - "I've been burned in the past by pushing for things too fast. 59 00:02:13,901 --> 00:02:16,304 "I wanted to let her set the pace. 60 00:02:16,370 --> 00:02:18,038 But it's been six months, 61 00:02:18,105 --> 00:02:20,408 "and this is starting to feel like more than her 62 00:02:20,474 --> 00:02:22,009 "being shy or something. 63 00:02:22,075 --> 00:02:23,777 I've been looking for a girl like Iris." 64 00:02:23,844 --> 00:02:25,979 - * You're turning into my favorite person * 65 00:02:26,046 --> 00:02:27,781 - "But if she's not telling me the truth, 66 00:02:27,848 --> 00:02:29,417 "I think I deserve to know. 67 00:02:29,483 --> 00:02:31,285 "It's possible we could still make things work, 68 00:02:31,352 --> 00:02:33,854 "even if she's not the girl in the pictures, 69 00:02:33,921 --> 00:02:36,657 "so I hope you guys can help me meet up with her 70 00:02:36,724 --> 00:02:38,492 "so that I can figure out what to do. 71 00:02:38,559 --> 00:02:40,661 Thanks, Omar." 72 00:02:41,862 --> 00:02:44,031 - So he's willing to go for Iris no matter what. 73 00:02:44,097 --> 00:02:47,535 - Well, it sounds like he wants to be in a relationship. 74 00:02:47,601 --> 00:02:49,237 She's everything he's looking for. 75 00:02:49,303 --> 00:02:50,904 And even if she's not the girl in the pictures, 76 00:02:50,971 --> 00:02:54,675 I think he's open to other versions of Iris. 77 00:02:54,742 --> 00:02:55,743 - We'll have to wait and see. 78 00:02:55,809 --> 00:02:56,977 I don't wanna make any assumptions. 79 00:02:57,044 --> 00:02:58,346 - Well, we should--right. We should call Omar. 80 00:02:58,412 --> 00:02:59,813 [line trills] 81 00:03:01,181 --> 00:03:02,483 - What's up, Omar? 82 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:03,884 It is Nev and Kamie. 83 00:03:07,688 --> 00:03:08,822 - Oh, okay. - Oh, okay, okay. 84 00:03:08,889 --> 00:03:10,624 - We just read your email. 85 00:03:10,691 --> 00:03:13,894 And it definitely sounds like you 86 00:03:13,961 --> 00:03:15,229 need some help figuring this out. 87 00:03:23,070 --> 00:03:24,071 - Okay. 88 00:03:24,137 --> 00:03:25,373 - Well, we're gonna come to New York. 89 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:26,674 We're gonna help you. 90 00:03:27,775 --> 00:03:28,976 - Yeah, we'll see you soon. 91 00:03:30,711 --> 00:03:32,012 - All right, later, bud. - Bye. 92 00:03:33,781 --> 00:03:35,082 - I love Omar. 93 00:03:35,148 --> 00:03:36,617 He talks so fast. - He seems great. Yeah. 94 00:03:36,684 --> 00:03:38,719 All right, let's go. 95 00:03:38,786 --> 00:03:40,087 - * Let's go to work * 96 00:03:40,153 --> 00:03:42,022 * Yeah, let's take it to the top * 97 00:03:42,089 --> 00:03:43,324 - All right. 98 00:03:43,391 --> 00:03:44,725 - New City. 99 00:03:44,792 --> 00:03:48,529 - So Omar and Iris have been talking now for six months. 100 00:03:48,596 --> 00:03:49,763 And Omar's no dummy. 101 00:03:49,830 --> 00:03:52,433 He knows that they don't live that far. 102 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:54,201 - There's no reason why they shouldn't have met yet. 103 00:03:54,268 --> 00:03:55,803 - * Get ready for the fireworks * 104 00:03:55,869 --> 00:03:57,170 * Level up, showing up first * 105 00:03:57,237 --> 00:03:59,740 * It's go time, let's go to work * 106 00:03:59,807 --> 00:04:01,709 - Let's do it. 107 00:04:04,378 --> 00:04:05,713 [creaking] 108 00:04:05,779 --> 00:04:06,880 Oh, I hear a door. I hear a screen door. 109 00:04:06,947 --> 00:04:08,248 - I heard it too. - Uh--uh-- 110 00:04:08,316 --> 00:04:10,050 - Hi, how you doing? - He can't wait. 111 00:04:10,117 --> 00:04:11,619 He can't wait. - Look at him. 112 00:04:11,685 --> 00:04:12,986 - He's so excited. - Omar. 113 00:04:13,053 --> 00:04:14,755 - How you doing, man? 114 00:04:14,822 --> 00:04:16,023 How you doing? How you doing, man? 115 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:17,691 How you doing? - Hi. Kamie. 116 00:04:17,758 --> 00:04:19,026 - How you doing? - Nice to meet you. 117 00:04:19,092 --> 00:04:20,961 - Come in, guys. It's kind of cold, so come in. 118 00:04:21,028 --> 00:04:23,163 - Thanks. - All right, let's have a seat. 119 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:24,398 - Hey, guys. 120 00:04:24,465 --> 00:04:26,099 I apologize if I talk fast. 121 00:04:26,166 --> 00:04:28,969 But be prepared to tell me, hey, slow down, if I-- 122 00:04:29,036 --> 00:04:30,671 if I do talk a little too fast. - Don't worry. 123 00:04:30,738 --> 00:04:32,373 We love the excitement. 124 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,707 Tell us about yourself. You grew up here? 125 00:04:33,774 --> 00:04:34,708 - Grew up here. 126 00:04:34,775 --> 00:04:36,209 Born in Staten Island. 127 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:37,578 Went to school in the Bronx for a little bit 128 00:04:37,645 --> 00:04:39,012 then been up here all my life. 129 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:40,648 But my parents are Jamaican. - Jamaican? 130 00:04:40,714 --> 00:04:42,583 - Hey, wagwan? - Oh, wagwan? 131 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:43,717 [laughter] 132 00:04:43,784 --> 00:04:44,885 - What about Iris? What's her deal? 133 00:04:44,952 --> 00:04:45,919 - Iris, she told me she's Jamaican. 134 00:04:45,986 --> 00:04:47,821 So I was, like, yes, sir. 135 00:04:47,888 --> 00:04:49,990 - Well, she's from the Bronx. - Yeah. 136 00:04:50,057 --> 00:04:51,759 - She's gotta be Dominican or Jamaican. 137 00:04:51,825 --> 00:04:53,126 - Solidly. I was like, come on, man. 138 00:04:53,193 --> 00:04:54,395 - Or she could be Puerto Rican. - Or Puerto Rican. 139 00:04:54,462 --> 00:04:55,429 - Right. - Wow. 140 00:04:55,496 --> 00:04:56,630 Okay. - Yeah. 141 00:04:56,697 --> 00:04:57,865 - All right, so tell us how you met. 142 00:04:57,931 --> 00:04:59,733 Tell us about Iris. 143 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,134 - Okay, Iris. 144 00:05:01,201 --> 00:05:03,170 I was hanging out with my friend Leonard, 145 00:05:03,236 --> 00:05:05,339 and he put me on his Snapchat. 146 00:05:05,406 --> 00:05:07,541 And then she got my handle from the Snapchat, 147 00:05:07,608 --> 00:05:09,242 and she added me on Snapchat. 148 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:10,944 So I'm like, mm. 149 00:05:11,011 --> 00:05:12,346 I don't know about this, right? 150 00:05:12,413 --> 00:05:14,114 I asked Leonard, you know who she is? 151 00:05:14,181 --> 00:05:15,416 And he said-- - Cross-check. 152 00:05:15,483 --> 00:05:16,484 - Yeah, cross-checking. 153 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:17,851 He's like, no, I've never met this girl. 154 00:05:17,918 --> 00:05:19,420 But I asked her. 155 00:05:19,487 --> 00:05:20,888 She's like, I know your friend because I just-- 156 00:05:20,954 --> 00:05:21,955 I see him around. 157 00:05:22,022 --> 00:05:23,391 - Well, she says she does. 158 00:05:23,457 --> 00:05:25,593 - Yeah, but she is one of the most amazing 159 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:26,694 people I've ever talked to. 160 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,662 She is smart. 161 00:05:28,729 --> 00:05:30,263 She's beautiful. 162 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:32,099 Like I said, she's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. 163 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:34,968 And my love life is really not that crazy, to be honest. 164 00:05:35,035 --> 00:05:39,673 So when she entered my life, I was like, yo. 165 00:05:39,740 --> 00:05:40,908 We have a connection. 166 00:05:40,974 --> 00:05:42,676 - So she added you on Snapchat. - Yes. 167 00:05:42,743 --> 00:05:44,011 - Does she post on Snapchat? 168 00:05:44,077 --> 00:05:45,479 - No, she don't post on Snapchat. 169 00:05:45,546 --> 00:05:47,047 - So when she messaged you on Snapchat, 170 00:05:47,114 --> 00:05:48,482 you didn't even really know what she looked like? 171 00:05:48,549 --> 00:05:50,918 - No, but, like, within the two weeks of us talking, 172 00:05:50,984 --> 00:05:52,920 I was like, hey, can I have a photo? 173 00:05:52,986 --> 00:05:54,187 And I was like, oh, she's-- 174 00:05:54,254 --> 00:05:55,956 I was like, yo, she's very pretty. 175 00:05:56,023 --> 00:05:58,025 We talk about everything under the sun. 176 00:05:58,091 --> 00:06:00,093 We talk about superheroes. 177 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,962 We talk about anime. 178 00:06:02,029 --> 00:06:04,665 We talk about video games. 179 00:06:04,732 --> 00:06:06,700 - But is she as involved and invested and aware of... 180 00:06:06,767 --> 00:06:07,968 - Yeah. 181 00:06:08,035 --> 00:06:09,169 - All of the things that you are? 182 00:06:09,236 --> 00:06:10,671 - Yeah, when I talk to her on the phone, 183 00:06:10,738 --> 00:06:12,973 we just talk about literally catching up on what we-- 184 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,274 like, how I'm talking to you guys. 185 00:06:14,341 --> 00:06:16,143 - So how many times have you talked on the phone? 186 00:06:16,209 --> 00:06:17,177 - Three times at this point. 187 00:06:17,244 --> 00:06:18,912 - But it feels very natural. 188 00:06:18,979 --> 00:06:20,180 - Mm-hmm. - And what does she do? 189 00:06:20,247 --> 00:06:21,348 - She says she goes to school. 190 00:06:21,415 --> 00:06:23,016 - She studying something specific or...? 191 00:06:23,083 --> 00:06:24,452 - She said communications. - Okay. 192 00:06:24,518 --> 00:06:26,687 - So, okay, so you guys, over the last six months, 193 00:06:26,754 --> 00:06:28,321 have become pretty close? - Yeah. 194 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:30,824 - Would you say Iris is your girlfriend? 195 00:06:30,891 --> 00:06:32,159 - I want her to be my girlfriend. 196 00:06:32,225 --> 00:06:33,527 - And you've talked about that? 197 00:06:33,594 --> 00:06:34,995 - Yes, I expressed, "I do care for you, 198 00:06:35,062 --> 00:06:36,396 and I do wanna meet up with you." 199 00:06:36,464 --> 00:06:38,098 So the first time I tried to meet up with her, 200 00:06:38,165 --> 00:06:39,767 I was like, hey, before Halloween kicks in, 201 00:06:39,833 --> 00:06:41,068 let's meet each other. 202 00:06:41,134 --> 00:06:42,636 And she's like, oh, I would love to, 203 00:06:42,703 --> 00:06:43,804 but I gotta study. 204 00:06:43,871 --> 00:06:46,073 And I said, okay. I'm not a pushy guy. 205 00:06:46,139 --> 00:06:48,876 Now, the second time I offered to meet her, 206 00:06:48,942 --> 00:06:50,511 she was like, yeah. Let's meet up. 207 00:06:50,578 --> 00:06:51,945 But my car's messed up. 208 00:06:52,012 --> 00:06:54,047 I need to go to the mechanic, and I had to go fix it. 209 00:06:54,114 --> 00:06:56,850 I said, no problem, 45 minutes away from there. 210 00:06:56,917 --> 00:06:58,318 I'll come pick you up. 211 00:06:58,385 --> 00:07:00,087 We'll drive around town for, like, a couple hours. 212 00:07:00,153 --> 00:07:02,155 I'll drop you right back off, and that can be our date. 213 00:07:02,222 --> 00:07:04,224 No, she was very, like, no. I gotta stay here. 214 00:07:04,291 --> 00:07:05,893 I gotta fix my car--exactly. 215 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:08,629 I was like-- that made me go, like, hmm. 216 00:07:08,696 --> 00:07:10,130 But I was like, when we talk to each other, 217 00:07:10,197 --> 00:07:11,832 even after that, the conversations 218 00:07:11,899 --> 00:07:13,834 are going on like nothing ever happened. 219 00:07:13,901 --> 00:07:16,770 Like, we're talking, having the most fantastic conversations. 220 00:07:16,837 --> 00:07:18,672 But I feel like every time I'm like, hey, let's meet up, 221 00:07:18,739 --> 00:07:21,542 can I FaceTime you-- oh, it's always something. 222 00:07:21,609 --> 00:07:25,078 And to be honest, too, even if she isn't the girl that 223 00:07:25,145 --> 00:07:28,982 is in the picture, I'm still willing to make this work 224 00:07:29,049 --> 00:07:30,951 because the connection that we have is something 225 00:07:31,018 --> 00:07:33,420 that I've never, like, experienced before. 226 00:07:33,487 --> 00:07:35,689 - And she's never asked you for anything? 227 00:07:35,756 --> 00:07:37,090 - No, nothing. No money. 228 00:07:37,157 --> 00:07:39,126 No, hey, food. None of that stuff. 229 00:07:39,192 --> 00:07:41,428 - Even when the car thing happened, she was-- 230 00:07:41,495 --> 00:07:42,730 - Yeah, that was me being like, hey, let me go to you. 231 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:43,964 Let me-- 232 00:07:44,031 --> 00:07:45,065 - But she didn't say, ugh, I gotta 233 00:07:45,132 --> 00:07:47,000 spend $1,000 to fix my car? 234 00:07:47,067 --> 00:07:48,135 - No, none of that. 235 00:07:48,201 --> 00:07:49,269 - I don't know what I'm gonna do. 236 00:07:49,336 --> 00:07:50,738 - If only I had someone to pay for that. 237 00:07:50,804 --> 00:07:51,872 - Yeah, so that's why I thought-- 238 00:07:51,939 --> 00:07:52,973 in my head, I was like, I hope she's not 239 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,274 gonna ask me for that. 240 00:07:54,341 --> 00:07:56,143 But then when she didn't, I was like, okay. 241 00:07:56,209 --> 00:07:57,578 - How many pictures has she sent you? 242 00:07:57,645 --> 00:07:59,312 - About two to three. - So let's see. 243 00:07:59,379 --> 00:08:00,981 Let's see these three pictures. 244 00:08:01,048 --> 00:08:03,116 [upbeat music] 245 00:08:03,183 --> 00:08:05,553 - Okay. - I mean, she's very cute. 246 00:08:05,619 --> 00:08:07,087 - You know, she a 10. 247 00:08:07,154 --> 00:08:08,288 - But yeah, she-- that's what I said. 248 00:08:08,355 --> 00:08:09,757 She's, like, when I look at her, I'm like, yo, 249 00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:11,424 she's one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. 250 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:12,860 And especially she likes everything I like? 251 00:08:12,926 --> 00:08:14,094 I was like, come on. 252 00:08:14,161 --> 00:08:17,030 That's just once in a billion. Like-- 253 00:08:17,097 --> 00:08:18,532 - Yeah, I mean, if I had to guess, 254 00:08:18,599 --> 00:08:20,734 I wouldn't necessarily expect this girl... 255 00:08:20,801 --> 00:08:22,102 - To like this stuff, right? 256 00:08:22,169 --> 00:08:23,470 And that's what I'm saying. 257 00:08:23,537 --> 00:08:25,505 - To be into all of it as much as you are. 258 00:08:25,573 --> 00:08:27,107 - That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm, like-- 259 00:08:27,174 --> 00:08:28,609 - Not to say that... - It can't happen. 260 00:08:28,676 --> 00:08:29,610 - It can't happen, but-- 261 00:08:29,677 --> 00:08:31,344 all right, show us some messages. 262 00:08:31,411 --> 00:08:32,813 - Okay, you're gonna laugh at some of them. 263 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,047 So prepare for my sense of humor. 264 00:08:34,114 --> 00:08:37,150 I don't got no-- no crazy things, crazy, but-- 265 00:08:37,217 --> 00:08:39,052 - All right, you said, "What you doing, baby girl?" 266 00:08:39,119 --> 00:08:40,487 So that's--you call her "baby girl." 267 00:08:40,554 --> 00:08:42,656 - Yeah, 'cause I'm telling you. I'm serious-- 268 00:08:42,723 --> 00:08:45,693 - Whoa, then you said--after a Happy Thanksgiving meme, 269 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:48,061 you said, "I can't wait to make love to you." 270 00:08:48,128 --> 00:08:50,030 Well, you also wanted her to be your first. 271 00:08:50,097 --> 00:08:51,164 - Yes. Yes, I do. 272 00:08:51,231 --> 00:08:53,166 So, guys, I'm a virgin. 273 00:08:53,233 --> 00:08:54,702 So I'm saving myself up for the right woman. 274 00:08:54,768 --> 00:08:56,336 - Yeah. - So-- 275 00:08:56,403 --> 00:08:58,205 - I love that. I love that. 276 00:08:58,271 --> 00:08:59,640 - Wait, so then she responded. 277 00:08:59,707 --> 00:09:01,975 "Happy Thanksgiving and hold your horses there. 278 00:09:02,042 --> 00:09:04,477 "I'm very flattered, but you gotta earn that. 279 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:07,815 "But maybe if you play it right, lovely, 280 00:09:07,881 --> 00:09:10,283 I'll give you a treat." - Yeah. 281 00:09:10,350 --> 00:09:12,052 When she said that, I was like, okay. 282 00:09:12,119 --> 00:09:13,420 We here now. 283 00:09:13,486 --> 00:09:15,188 - And you said, "Iris, can I be real? 284 00:09:15,255 --> 00:09:16,624 "You know how I feel about you. 285 00:09:16,690 --> 00:09:18,291 "You know I'm willing to make this work 286 00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:19,760 "and take this to the next level. 287 00:09:19,827 --> 00:09:21,061 "I've told you before, and I'll say it again. 288 00:09:21,128 --> 00:09:22,429 "I've never felt like this. 289 00:09:22,495 --> 00:09:24,297 "And when I talk to you, I feel like I can be myself. 290 00:09:24,364 --> 00:09:26,266 Like, I feel like we were meant to be." 291 00:09:26,333 --> 00:09:27,868 - Yes. - And she hearted that. 292 00:09:27,935 --> 00:09:32,172 I mean, she didn't respond, but she acknowledged. 293 00:09:32,239 --> 00:09:33,540 - Yes. - And approved. 294 00:09:33,607 --> 00:09:34,908 - At least we're moving in the right direction. 295 00:09:34,975 --> 00:09:35,943 - Right. - That's how I feel. 296 00:09:36,009 --> 00:09:37,711 - Um--no. - No? 297 00:09:37,778 --> 00:09:41,414 - If my boyfriend sent me that and I just hearted it, 298 00:09:41,481 --> 00:09:42,850 he would call me and be like, 299 00:09:42,916 --> 00:09:44,251 what the fuck is wrong with you? 300 00:09:44,317 --> 00:09:46,253 What do you mean, heart? 301 00:09:46,319 --> 00:09:48,521 You're not gonna say any-- like, come on. 302 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:50,958 She's not responding in the way that 303 00:09:51,024 --> 00:09:51,959 you would think that she would respond 304 00:09:52,025 --> 00:09:53,526 if she felt the same way. 305 00:09:53,593 --> 00:09:56,296 - Yeah, but I feel like--'cause when we talk on the phone, 306 00:09:56,363 --> 00:09:58,098 that's when I feel like-- 307 00:09:58,165 --> 00:10:00,067 it's, like, the real conversation kicks in. 308 00:10:00,133 --> 00:10:01,434 - The girl in the pictures that she sent 309 00:10:01,501 --> 00:10:04,738 looks like a girl that might have an Instagram. 310 00:10:04,805 --> 00:10:06,539 - Oh, yeah, have you guys talked about social media? 311 00:10:06,606 --> 00:10:07,708 - Mm-mm. 312 00:10:07,775 --> 00:10:09,542 I only have, like, 37 followers on myself. 313 00:10:09,609 --> 00:10:11,344 - And you've obviously already considered 314 00:10:11,411 --> 00:10:13,180 that maybe the reason you're getting a little bit 315 00:10:13,246 --> 00:10:16,583 of resistance and excuses when it comes to meeting up 316 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:19,286 is because maybe she's not the girl in the pictures. 317 00:10:19,352 --> 00:10:20,487 - I think she's hiding something from me. 318 00:10:20,553 --> 00:10:22,155 That's what I personally think. 319 00:10:22,222 --> 00:10:23,223 I think she might be hiding something. 320 00:10:23,290 --> 00:10:25,225 What it is, I don't know. 321 00:10:25,292 --> 00:10:26,827 That's why I'm trying to figure it out 322 00:10:26,894 --> 00:10:29,229 because I feel like I've been putting a lot of effort in, 323 00:10:29,296 --> 00:10:31,064 at this point, on my side. 324 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:33,133 So that's why I was like, hey. 325 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,434 - Well, we're gonna do some research. 326 00:10:34,501 --> 00:10:35,803 - Okay. - See what we find. 327 00:10:35,869 --> 00:10:37,738 - I really wanna know. 328 00:10:37,805 --> 00:10:39,707 And I hope Iris is who she says she is 329 00:10:39,773 --> 00:10:41,842 because I really am crazy about this girl. 330 00:10:41,909 --> 00:10:43,343 - I wanna know now too. 331 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:45,278 - We'll figure this out. - Yeah, hopefully. 332 00:10:45,345 --> 00:10:46,579 Man, I'm excited, though. 333 00:10:46,646 --> 00:10:48,916 I've been saying--I've been-- I'm excited, man. 334 00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:50,517 I'm excited to meet y'all. 335 00:10:50,583 --> 00:10:52,619 - All right. - It's nice meeting y'all, man. 336 00:10:52,686 --> 00:10:54,187 - Good to meet you. - Thanks for having us. 337 00:10:54,254 --> 00:10:56,089 - No problem. No problem. 338 00:10:57,624 --> 00:10:58,892 - Wow. 339 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:00,961 - Omar has the gift of gab. 340 00:11:01,028 --> 00:11:02,562 - My ears are tired. 341 00:11:02,629 --> 00:11:04,497 [laughter] 342 00:11:04,564 --> 00:11:06,499 But, I mean, he's got a lot to say. 343 00:11:06,566 --> 00:11:08,301 - He does. - He's passionate. 344 00:11:08,368 --> 00:11:11,138 - But that's why I want for him to be with someone 345 00:11:11,204 --> 00:11:12,439 who matches his energy. 346 00:11:12,505 --> 00:11:15,275 Iris is not giving me good vibes. 347 00:11:15,342 --> 00:11:17,110 - I mean, the fact that it's been six months 348 00:11:17,177 --> 00:11:18,946 and that she's been consistently 349 00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:20,647 engaging every day-- - Mm-hmm. 350 00:11:20,714 --> 00:11:23,350 - So if and when we likely find out 351 00:11:23,416 --> 00:11:25,719 she's not the girl in those three pictures... 352 00:11:25,786 --> 00:11:27,220 - Yeah. 353 00:11:27,287 --> 00:11:29,256 - We're going to meet somebody that is probably 354 00:11:29,322 --> 00:11:31,524 super into Omar but has been really nervous 355 00:11:31,591 --> 00:11:33,727 and keeping him back... - Mm-hmm. 356 00:11:33,794 --> 00:11:35,562 - Because she knows she's been lying. 357 00:11:35,628 --> 00:11:38,065 - However all this turns out at the end of this, 358 00:11:38,131 --> 00:11:42,135 Omar, for the first time in his life, might be left speechless. 359 00:11:54,514 --> 00:11:56,183 - All right, we ready to work? 360 00:11:56,249 --> 00:11:58,185 Ready to save lives? 361 00:11:58,251 --> 00:11:59,452 - Yeah. - All right. 362 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:02,455 Omar is a very sweet, geeky guy 363 00:12:02,522 --> 00:12:04,758 who randomly got added by the most beautiful girl 364 00:12:04,825 --> 00:12:08,128 named Iris, who also happens to be an uber nerd 365 00:12:08,195 --> 00:12:09,797 and loves all the same stuff he does. 366 00:12:09,863 --> 00:12:11,631 He's head over heels for this girl, 367 00:12:11,698 --> 00:12:16,069 desperately trying to have her be his first sexual partner. 368 00:12:16,136 --> 00:12:17,504 - I just--I'm not seeing it. 369 00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:19,472 And I hate that for him 370 00:12:19,539 --> 00:12:21,408 because I know that he's really passionate. 371 00:12:21,474 --> 00:12:24,011 - I think the chances are slim. 372 00:12:24,077 --> 00:12:27,580 But I'm hopeful that, whoever this person is, 373 00:12:27,647 --> 00:12:31,418 they are at least being serious about their feelings. 374 00:12:31,484 --> 00:12:33,586 Hopefully also where they live. - Yeah. 375 00:12:33,653 --> 00:12:35,622 - All right, let's check our email. 376 00:12:35,688 --> 00:12:36,689 Here we go. 377 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:38,325 Iris information. 378 00:12:38,391 --> 00:12:39,392 - Very short email. 379 00:12:39,459 --> 00:12:40,693 - "Hey, Nev and Kamie. 380 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,329 "Here's all the information I have for you. 381 00:12:42,395 --> 00:12:45,232 Iris Simpson lives in the Bronx." 382 00:12:45,298 --> 00:12:46,699 - She's from the Boogie Down. 383 00:12:46,766 --> 00:12:48,068 - "She's 22. 384 00:12:48,135 --> 00:12:49,837 "She's a junior at [bleep] College 385 00:12:49,903 --> 00:12:51,571 "and a communications major. 386 00:12:51,638 --> 00:12:54,541 Her Snapchat handle is @BaebyIris." 387 00:12:54,607 --> 00:12:56,009 And her phone number, okay. 388 00:12:56,076 --> 00:12:58,211 "I'm sending the three pictures I have of her. 389 00:12:58,278 --> 00:13:00,513 Talk to you soon, Omar." 390 00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:02,682 We should call her college and just say, 391 00:13:02,749 --> 00:13:05,718 can you confirm you have a student named Iris Simpson? 392 00:13:05,785 --> 00:13:07,020 Are they allowed to do that? - I don't know. 393 00:13:07,087 --> 00:13:08,856 - How would you fact check someone's résumé 394 00:13:08,922 --> 00:13:11,491 if they said they were a student at or went to-- 395 00:13:11,558 --> 00:13:13,093 there's gotta be a way to do that, right? 396 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,427 - I mean, maybe. 397 00:13:14,494 --> 00:13:15,896 - Let's just-- let's just start with that. 398 00:13:15,963 --> 00:13:17,630 So let's look up the school. 399 00:13:17,697 --> 00:13:18,665 - Registrar? 400 00:13:18,731 --> 00:13:19,967 - Yeah, the registration, transcripts. 401 00:13:20,033 --> 00:13:21,168 Let's see. 402 00:13:21,234 --> 00:13:22,870 [line trills] 403 00:13:24,671 --> 00:13:27,407 - Hey, I just wanted to confirm one of your students. 404 00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:29,709 Iris, last name Simpson. 405 00:13:29,776 --> 00:13:32,412 She's a communications student. 406 00:13:37,817 --> 00:13:38,886 - Oh, thank you. 407 00:13:39,987 --> 00:13:41,521 - Bye-bye. 408 00:13:41,588 --> 00:13:43,991 I mean, look, I'm not ready to say for sure 409 00:13:44,057 --> 00:13:47,427 that she's not a student there because maybe she's enrolled 410 00:13:47,494 --> 00:13:48,929 under a different name. 411 00:13:48,996 --> 00:13:51,865 But [bleep] is a pretty specific local school. 412 00:13:51,932 --> 00:13:53,533 - Yeah. 413 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,836 - So it does suggest that she is probably locally based. 414 00:13:56,904 --> 00:13:59,572 - Yeah, I think she's New York based, for sure. 415 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:02,775 - Let's do a little Facebook search in the New York area. 416 00:14:02,842 --> 00:14:04,111 Iris Simpson. 417 00:14:04,177 --> 00:14:05,478 - New York, New York. 418 00:14:05,545 --> 00:14:07,414 Education, you could put [bleep]. 419 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,316 That could actually be her school. 420 00:14:09,382 --> 00:14:10,350 - College. 421 00:14:10,417 --> 00:14:11,784 It found the school. 422 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:12,920 No hit. 423 00:14:12,986 --> 00:14:14,787 - Her name is probably not Iris Simpson. 424 00:14:14,854 --> 00:14:16,789 - Obviously, she's lying about something. 425 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:19,759 - Mm-hmm. - So we've got a phone number. 426 00:14:19,826 --> 00:14:24,097 I think we should search that and see if a name comes up. 427 00:14:24,164 --> 00:14:25,398 - Carmel, New York. 428 00:14:25,465 --> 00:14:28,936 - No name, but it does come up in Carmel 429 00:14:29,002 --> 00:14:30,570 as a MetroPCS phone number. 430 00:14:30,637 --> 00:14:34,174 Carmel's pretty close to where Omar lives. 431 00:14:34,241 --> 00:14:35,342 - Interesting. 432 00:14:35,408 --> 00:14:37,544 - What else? What else? 433 00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:39,879 Let's just look at her Snapchat handle. 434 00:14:39,947 --> 00:14:41,915 [suspenseful music] 435 00:14:41,982 --> 00:14:43,316 Oh, yeah. There she is, Iris Simpson. 436 00:14:43,383 --> 00:14:44,717 - Hmm. 437 00:14:44,784 --> 00:14:45,885 - That doesn't even really look like the girl. 438 00:14:45,953 --> 00:14:47,554 I mean, I guess it wouldn't. - No. 439 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:49,089 - This girl has a couple nose rings. 440 00:14:49,156 --> 00:14:50,557 - Hmm. 441 00:14:50,623 --> 00:14:52,559 Let's run the pictures. 442 00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:55,195 That girl lives in LA. 443 00:14:55,262 --> 00:14:56,229 - All right, well, let's find out. 444 00:14:56,296 --> 00:14:57,497 - Atlanta. 445 00:14:57,564 --> 00:15:00,333 Those are my two-- LA and Atlanta. 446 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,370 * * 447 00:15:03,436 --> 00:15:04,704 - Holy moly. 448 00:15:04,771 --> 00:15:06,473 - It's her all over the place. 449 00:15:06,539 --> 00:15:07,440 - Oh, my God. 450 00:15:07,507 --> 00:15:09,209 There are a lot. 451 00:15:09,276 --> 00:15:12,879 This is the most hits I think we've ever had on a picture. 452 00:15:12,946 --> 00:15:14,847 - Every picture of her is on this site. 453 00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:16,283 - I mean, I just keep scrolling, 454 00:15:16,349 --> 00:15:18,251 and it just goes on forever. 455 00:15:18,318 --> 00:15:20,353 - Who is that? 456 00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:21,989 - @itsxiya. 457 00:15:22,055 --> 00:15:24,224 All right, so hold on a second. Does she have an Instagram? 458 00:15:24,291 --> 00:15:26,159 Let's go there. Boom. 459 00:15:26,226 --> 00:15:28,261 27,000 followers. 460 00:15:28,328 --> 00:15:29,429 Tons of photos. 461 00:15:29,496 --> 00:15:30,730 - Look at the location. 462 00:15:30,797 --> 00:15:33,066 - Atlanta. - Atlanta! 463 00:15:33,133 --> 00:15:35,135 I knew those were ATL edges. 464 00:15:35,202 --> 00:15:37,170 I know ATL edges when I see them. 465 00:15:37,237 --> 00:15:39,739 I would like to know the product that she used. 466 00:15:39,806 --> 00:15:40,773 [laughs] 467 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,642 - This girl got a YouTube channel. 468 00:15:42,709 --> 00:15:43,910 She's got a Twitter. 469 00:15:43,977 --> 00:15:45,712 And I'm not seeing anything about anime. 470 00:15:45,778 --> 00:15:48,181 - The girl in the pictures is not talking to Omar. 471 00:15:48,248 --> 00:15:49,549 - Right. - That's very clear. 472 00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:52,019 We don't even need to ask because it's very obvious. 473 00:15:52,085 --> 00:15:53,720 - I don't think we need to bother her. 474 00:15:53,786 --> 00:15:57,590 I don't think we need anything more to show and convince Omar 475 00:15:57,657 --> 00:15:58,925 that it's not her. 476 00:15:58,992 --> 00:15:59,993 - We gotta tell Omar. 477 00:16:00,060 --> 00:16:01,394 - Omar's gonna need a heck of a lot more 478 00:16:01,461 --> 00:16:02,829 than the sandpaper he works with 479 00:16:02,895 --> 00:16:04,797 to smooth this out. - This is gonna be rough. 480 00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:09,436 - Poor Omar has been saving himself for Iris. 481 00:16:09,502 --> 00:16:11,004 Little does he know, she's lying 482 00:16:11,071 --> 00:16:14,074 about her pictures and probably many other things. 483 00:16:14,141 --> 00:16:16,843 But as long as this girl doesn't have some kind 484 00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:20,613 of nefarious intentions, I still think that there's 485 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,249 a chance of something. 486 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:23,583 - He said he's open to that, 487 00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:26,086 but let's see how he reacts when we tell him. 488 00:16:26,153 --> 00:16:28,055 - We'll see. 489 00:16:28,121 --> 00:16:31,124 [suspenseful music] 490 00:16:31,191 --> 00:16:32,425 [groans] 491 00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:34,761 [doorbell chimes] 492 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:36,829 - Hey, wagwan, guys. - Hey! 493 00:16:36,896 --> 00:16:39,332 - What's up, man? What's up? What's up? 494 00:16:39,399 --> 00:16:41,468 How you doing? - Hi, good to see you. 495 00:16:41,534 --> 00:16:43,636 - Good to see you guys. 496 00:16:45,772 --> 00:16:47,407 - Anything come up today? 497 00:16:47,474 --> 00:16:48,708 Have you talked to her today? 498 00:16:48,775 --> 00:16:49,876 - No, I talked to her last night, though. 499 00:16:49,942 --> 00:16:52,079 - On the phone? - No, just regular text. 500 00:16:52,145 --> 00:16:55,048 - Okay, any "I miss you"s? 501 00:16:55,115 --> 00:16:58,351 Any flirty-- - Nah, none of that last night. 502 00:16:58,418 --> 00:17:00,087 - All right, let's get into it. 503 00:17:00,153 --> 00:17:03,623 So Iris says she goes to [bleep] College. 504 00:17:03,690 --> 00:17:06,459 So I thought maybe I could just call the college 505 00:17:06,526 --> 00:17:08,428 and ask if they have an Iris Simpson. 506 00:17:08,495 --> 00:17:10,363 Can you just confirm... - Mm-hmm. 507 00:17:10,430 --> 00:17:12,031 - You have a student at the school? 508 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:16,603 And she said she didn't see any student with that name. 509 00:17:16,669 --> 00:17:18,605 - What the fuck? 510 00:17:18,671 --> 00:17:21,774 - So obviously, we were a little confused 511 00:17:21,841 --> 00:17:23,976 because that's a very specific thing to say. 512 00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:26,479 You go to a specific school. She studied communications. 513 00:17:26,546 --> 00:17:28,548 But it got us really wondering. - Mm-hmm. 514 00:17:28,615 --> 00:17:30,016 - The simple explanation is, 515 00:17:30,083 --> 00:17:32,352 Iris is just not her government name, 516 00:17:32,419 --> 00:17:34,721 whether it's her middle name or just a nickname. 517 00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:36,756 But it's possible she's not lying about 518 00:17:36,823 --> 00:17:38,525 where she goes to school. 519 00:17:38,591 --> 00:17:40,660 She's just not enrolled under that name. 520 00:17:40,727 --> 00:17:42,229 That's one version of what's going on. 521 00:17:42,295 --> 00:17:43,896 - Mm-hmm. 522 00:17:43,963 --> 00:17:46,633 - The more upsetting version is that she just doesn't 523 00:17:46,699 --> 00:17:48,868 go to that school at all. 524 00:17:48,935 --> 00:17:50,137 - And her name might not even be 525 00:17:50,203 --> 00:17:52,139 the name that she's given you. - Right. 526 00:17:52,205 --> 00:17:53,673 So then, when we looked up her phone number, 527 00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:55,041 we didn't find a name. 528 00:17:55,108 --> 00:17:56,776 But her phone number does come back-- 529 00:17:56,843 --> 00:17:59,011 as you know, 845 is this area, 530 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:01,514 but in Carmel, not in the Bronx. 531 00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:02,715 - Yeah. - So we were like, okay, look. 532 00:18:02,782 --> 00:18:03,850 She's got the phone number. 533 00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:05,152 She knows about [bleep] College. 534 00:18:05,218 --> 00:18:07,220 This person probably does live close by. 535 00:18:07,287 --> 00:18:08,721 - Close by. Mm-hmm. 536 00:18:08,788 --> 00:18:10,557 - Because I don't think she's making all this up. 537 00:18:10,623 --> 00:18:13,226 I think she probably does live locally. 538 00:18:13,293 --> 00:18:14,594 - Okay. 539 00:18:14,661 --> 00:18:15,928 - So then we took one of the three pictures 540 00:18:15,995 --> 00:18:17,797 that you sent us, just the first one. 541 00:18:17,864 --> 00:18:22,335 And then right away, we got a buttload of photos. 542 00:18:22,402 --> 00:18:24,471 - What the fuck? 543 00:18:24,537 --> 00:18:26,005 That's her. 544 00:18:26,072 --> 00:18:27,807 - There are just hundreds of pictures of her. 545 00:18:27,874 --> 00:18:31,378 Okay, and as we scroll down, we found this. 546 00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:35,047 It leads us to an Instagram for a girl named Xiya. 547 00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:38,285 This girl lives in Atlanta. 548 00:18:38,351 --> 00:18:39,386 - Atlanta? 549 00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:41,053 - She's got 27,000 followers. 550 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,391 This is a girl who's very much an influencer of some kind. 551 00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:45,692 She's got a bunch of links. 552 00:18:45,758 --> 00:18:47,727 Let's just go to her YouTube, maybe, 553 00:18:47,794 --> 00:18:50,197 so you can hear her voice, the real girl's voice. 554 00:18:50,263 --> 00:18:52,332 - Like, you're not gonna talk to me no kind of way. 555 00:18:52,399 --> 00:18:54,301 Okay? 556 00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:57,136 - Yeah, that's definitely not the voice I was hearing. 557 00:18:57,204 --> 00:18:59,372 - Doesn't sound like-- - No, it definitely does not. 558 00:18:59,439 --> 00:19:02,775 [somber music] 559 00:19:02,842 --> 00:19:05,312 [sighs] Damn, bro. 560 00:19:05,378 --> 00:19:10,750 * * 561 00:19:10,817 --> 00:19:13,686 - * Gonna weep myself an ocean * 562 00:19:13,753 --> 00:19:15,555 - I just lost the words, man. 563 00:19:15,622 --> 00:19:17,089 Mm. 564 00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:21,594 - * For the sun that set too soon * 565 00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:23,463 - I'm so sorry, guys. 566 00:19:23,530 --> 00:19:29,168 - * I wish I'd thought of something else * 567 00:19:29,236 --> 00:19:34,407 * Before you vanished in the dark * 568 00:19:34,474 --> 00:19:38,811 * * 569 00:19:38,878 --> 00:19:40,480 - Who the fuck have I been talking to, then? 570 00:19:40,547 --> 00:19:42,982 It's like, what the fuck? 571 00:19:43,049 --> 00:19:46,085 - Whoever this girl is, I think she 572 00:19:46,152 --> 00:19:50,290 probably does genuinely like you and has been keeping you... 573 00:19:50,357 --> 00:19:51,591 - At arm's length. 574 00:19:51,658 --> 00:19:52,925 - At arm's length because she knows 575 00:19:52,992 --> 00:19:54,327 she's been lying and that, eventually, 576 00:19:54,394 --> 00:19:55,962 you're gonna find out. 577 00:19:56,028 --> 00:19:58,064 And it's going to make the likelihood of you 578 00:19:58,130 --> 00:20:00,500 continuing to like her a lot smaller. 579 00:20:00,567 --> 00:20:02,235 - Damn, man. 580 00:20:02,302 --> 00:20:06,406 [groans] I do wanna figure out who I've been talking to 581 00:20:06,473 --> 00:20:07,607 because, at this point, like, 582 00:20:07,674 --> 00:20:09,609 you've been leading me on for so long. 583 00:20:09,676 --> 00:20:11,177 Like, what's going on? 584 00:20:11,244 --> 00:20:14,747 - All right, so if it's cool, I will try calling her, 585 00:20:14,814 --> 00:20:16,783 see if she answers. - By all means. 586 00:20:16,849 --> 00:20:18,485 - If she doesn't, we can text her 587 00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:22,322 and see if we can find a way to meet up with her, 588 00:20:22,389 --> 00:20:23,756 hopefully tomorrow. 589 00:20:25,157 --> 00:20:27,159 All right, let's give her a ring. 590 00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,462 [line trilling] 591 00:20:29,529 --> 00:20:32,432 [tense music] 592 00:20:32,499 --> 00:20:34,233 * * 593 00:20:34,301 --> 00:20:36,202 - Please leave your message for-- 594 00:20:36,269 --> 00:20:38,204 - Okay. - Let me send a text. 595 00:20:38,271 --> 00:20:39,639 All right. Hey, Iris. 596 00:20:39,706 --> 00:20:41,007 This is Nev from the show "Catfish." 597 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:42,675 I'm here in Rockland with Omar and hoping I can 598 00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:44,110 help you guys finally meet up. 599 00:20:44,176 --> 00:20:45,845 Please give me a call when you get this. 600 00:20:45,912 --> 00:20:48,047 Thanks. - Okay. 601 00:20:48,114 --> 00:20:49,616 Man, I still-- you know, after all this, 602 00:20:49,682 --> 00:20:52,819 man, you know, like, I hope-- 603 00:20:52,885 --> 00:20:54,887 I hope--[groans] I hope she can call back. 604 00:20:54,954 --> 00:20:55,922 Sorry, guys, if I'm stuttering 605 00:20:55,988 --> 00:20:56,989 'cause I'm still a little angry. 606 00:20:57,056 --> 00:20:58,358 - That's fair. - Uh-huh. 607 00:20:58,425 --> 00:21:00,092 - I think it's okay for you to be upset. 608 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:02,061 This is a half of a year of your life. 609 00:21:02,128 --> 00:21:03,363 - Yeah. 610 00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:04,997 - And I think that, if you do get a chance 611 00:21:05,064 --> 00:21:06,399 to meet whoever this person is, they should know 612 00:21:06,466 --> 00:21:08,200 that it's upsetting. [phone chimes] 613 00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:10,403 Ooh. Ooh. 614 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:11,804 - She said, "Oh my God. 615 00:21:11,871 --> 00:21:13,740 "I can't believe he wrote into the show. 616 00:21:13,806 --> 00:21:15,308 "To be honest, there's a part of me 617 00:21:15,375 --> 00:21:16,909 "that thinks this won't go well. 618 00:21:16,976 --> 00:21:20,146 I'm afraid and don't really know what I should do." 619 00:21:20,212 --> 00:21:22,214 I'm just gonna say, I totally understand. 620 00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:24,150 Having helped people through this situation many times, 621 00:21:24,216 --> 00:21:26,185 I assure you that meeting face-to-face and being honest 622 00:21:26,252 --> 00:21:27,520 is always the right thing to do. 623 00:21:27,587 --> 00:21:29,021 We also already know that 624 00:21:29,088 --> 00:21:30,423 you're not the girl in the pictures, 625 00:21:30,490 --> 00:21:32,992 and Omar still very much wants to meet you. 626 00:21:33,059 --> 00:21:35,395 - Yes. - Hopefully that helps. 627 00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:37,697 - Oh, she read it. She's typing. She's typing. 628 00:21:37,764 --> 00:21:38,731 Oh, wow. 629 00:21:38,798 --> 00:21:39,932 She said, "To be honest, 630 00:21:39,999 --> 00:21:41,267 "it's way more complicated 631 00:21:41,334 --> 00:21:43,102 "than me not being the woman in the photos." 632 00:21:43,169 --> 00:21:45,071 "I know how upset he's gonna be. 633 00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:46,406 "This will tear him apart. 634 00:21:46,473 --> 00:21:49,308 "If it's better, I can just stop talking to him. 635 00:21:49,376 --> 00:21:51,644 "I can just go away and we can act like 636 00:21:51,711 --> 00:21:52,945 none of this ever happened." 637 00:21:53,012 --> 00:21:54,280 - It's way more complicated than you 638 00:21:54,347 --> 00:21:55,515 not being the girl in the photos? 639 00:21:55,582 --> 00:21:56,549 That just gave me chills. 640 00:21:56,616 --> 00:21:58,050 - What the fuck? 641 00:22:00,787 --> 00:22:01,854 - It's way more complicated than you 642 00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:03,222 not being the girl in the photos? 643 00:22:03,289 --> 00:22:05,425 What is that bad that she would rather just disappear? 644 00:22:05,492 --> 00:22:07,894 - No, 'cause of that, I definitely wanna meet up 645 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,696 with this girl to know what's going on 646 00:22:09,762 --> 00:22:11,864 'cause it's tearing me apart. 647 00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:14,300 No, I have to meet-- I have to meet her now. 648 00:22:14,367 --> 00:22:15,968 - He wants to meet. 649 00:22:16,035 --> 00:22:17,837 I think you owe him that much and should let him decide 650 00:22:17,904 --> 00:22:19,406 how he feels for himself. 651 00:22:19,472 --> 00:22:22,008 What could it be other than it's like-- 652 00:22:22,074 --> 00:22:24,977 what's the worst version of this? 653 00:22:25,044 --> 00:22:28,047 She said, "All righty, I just wanna say it's on him. 654 00:22:28,114 --> 00:22:30,049 "I can meet up tomorrow in his area. 655 00:22:30,116 --> 00:22:31,751 Just let me know the time and location." 656 00:22:31,818 --> 00:22:34,487 - So now she's trying to tell me that if whatever happens-- 657 00:22:34,554 --> 00:22:36,923 - Right, if you're hurt now because of what she's done, 658 00:22:36,989 --> 00:22:38,425 it's your fault. 659 00:22:38,491 --> 00:22:40,993 That's a weird way to try to twist this and-- 660 00:22:41,060 --> 00:22:42,395 - Don't even get into it. Don't even get into it. 661 00:22:42,462 --> 00:22:45,532 - Say it's not her fault anymore if she upsets you 662 00:22:45,598 --> 00:22:47,033 because you asked for it. 663 00:22:47,099 --> 00:22:48,435 - Don't even get into that. 664 00:22:48,501 --> 00:22:50,102 - Right, I'm not gonna get into that. 665 00:22:50,169 --> 00:22:56,342 Okay, I will text you in the morning with a time and place. 666 00:22:56,409 --> 00:23:00,547 Plan on meeting us around 11:00 a.m.? 667 00:23:00,613 --> 00:23:01,814 - Okay. 668 00:23:01,881 --> 00:23:04,283 - The only thing that I can think of 669 00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:08,187 is that this is somehow related to your friend 670 00:23:08,254 --> 00:23:10,523 that posted your handle on Snapchat. 671 00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:12,258 - Leonard? - Leonard. 672 00:23:12,324 --> 00:23:14,293 But you've talked to some girl on the phone. 673 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:16,328 - Yeah. - It's just a theory. 674 00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:18,197 But think about it. You all right? 675 00:23:18,264 --> 00:23:19,666 - Definitely something to sleep on tonight. 676 00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:21,033 100%. Yeah. 677 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:23,369 - You know, you like to stay upbeat. 678 00:23:23,436 --> 00:23:24,771 But obviously-- 679 00:23:24,837 --> 00:23:27,073 - I mean, yeah, I was disappointed in this, though. 680 00:23:27,139 --> 00:23:29,842 And she was like, I'm not ready to handle the truth? 681 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:31,578 Like, what? All right. 682 00:23:31,644 --> 00:23:34,113 - All right, so let us figure out a good place to meet. 683 00:23:34,180 --> 00:23:36,849 And just prepare yourself to get some strange, 684 00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:38,851 possibly very upsetting news. 685 00:23:38,918 --> 00:23:41,187 - Yeah. - All right. 686 00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:42,922 Try to get some rest. 687 00:23:42,989 --> 00:23:44,156 - Yeah. 688 00:23:44,223 --> 00:23:45,458 Y'all have a nice night. 689 00:23:45,525 --> 00:23:47,359 - Thank you. You too. 690 00:23:49,829 --> 00:23:51,998 Oh, boy. 691 00:23:52,064 --> 00:23:57,136 I'm just really, really concerned 692 00:23:57,203 --> 00:24:00,072 that this is a joke to somebody. 693 00:24:00,139 --> 00:24:02,809 - It's just--it's starting to feel like the situation 694 00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:05,778 just went from bad to way worse. 695 00:24:05,845 --> 00:24:08,380 [dramatic music] 696 00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:09,616 [knocking] 697 00:24:09,682 --> 00:24:11,283 - * Coming * 698 00:24:13,185 --> 00:24:16,856 - I wanted to show you. I have a text here from Iris. 699 00:24:16,923 --> 00:24:18,324 "Hey, good morning. 700 00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:21,728 I'd just like to check in to ask where we are meeting." 701 00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:23,029 - So where are we meeting? 702 00:24:23,095 --> 00:24:25,331 - I'm gonna text her this nice, little park. 703 00:24:25,397 --> 00:24:27,934 We will meet you 704 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,872 at Eugene Levy Park at 11:00. 705 00:24:32,939 --> 00:24:35,307 All right, let's go. 706 00:24:35,374 --> 00:24:37,076 [phone dings] Oh, whoa. 707 00:24:37,143 --> 00:24:38,377 She wrote back. - What'd she say? 708 00:24:38,444 --> 00:24:39,879 - What'd she say? What'd she say? What'd she say? 709 00:24:39,946 --> 00:24:41,113 She said, "All right, that's fine. 710 00:24:41,180 --> 00:24:42,782 "I know that park. 711 00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:44,450 I'll meet you up by the flagpole." 712 00:24:44,517 --> 00:24:46,318 Wow, she like-- - Okay, this is her park. 713 00:24:46,385 --> 00:24:48,020 - Wow, she really knows it. 714 00:24:48,087 --> 00:24:49,188 - I'm gonna thumbs up her message. 715 00:24:49,255 --> 00:24:51,123 - Okay, and then text Omar. 716 00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:53,926 Tell him we're coming to scoop him. 717 00:24:53,993 --> 00:24:56,095 Well, I'm a little surprised. 718 00:24:56,162 --> 00:24:59,365 But she texted and said, what's the plan? 719 00:24:59,431 --> 00:25:02,368 Are we meeting? Like, she followed up. 720 00:25:02,434 --> 00:25:04,604 It's somewhat reassuring that she is actually 721 00:25:04,671 --> 00:25:06,973 going to meet us today. 722 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,642 - Yes, but it feels very business now. 723 00:25:09,709 --> 00:25:10,943 She's just like... - Right. 724 00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:13,613 - Okay, this is what he chose. 725 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,247 - Oh, there he is. 726 00:25:17,617 --> 00:25:18,885 - Hello. 727 00:25:18,951 --> 00:25:21,320 - Hey, what's up, guys? 728 00:25:21,387 --> 00:25:23,489 - What's up? - What's up, man? 729 00:25:23,556 --> 00:25:25,424 - Well, she texted. - Oh, she did? 730 00:25:25,491 --> 00:25:27,459 - Yeah, she texted me this morning 731 00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:28,928 and said, are we meeting? What time? 732 00:25:28,995 --> 00:25:30,529 Like-- - Oh, shit. 733 00:25:30,597 --> 00:25:32,565 Man, after sleeping on it, man, I'm kind of a little nervous. 734 00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:34,366 But at the same time, now I'm ready to get 735 00:25:34,433 --> 00:25:36,368 to the bottom of it because, yesterday, I was upset. 736 00:25:36,435 --> 00:25:37,737 So now today, I'm like, all right, 737 00:25:37,804 --> 00:25:39,305 I'm ready to face it now. 738 00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:42,074 So let's see what's about to happen with Iris, 739 00:25:42,141 --> 00:25:43,375 if that really is her name. 740 00:25:43,442 --> 00:25:45,144 - And we really don't know. 741 00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:47,046 - Really don't know at this point. 742 00:25:48,615 --> 00:25:51,450 - She said she knows the park that we're going to, 743 00:25:51,517 --> 00:25:53,485 which makes me even more curious... 744 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:54,787 - Oh, shit. - If she's from here. 745 00:25:54,854 --> 00:25:56,188 - Oh, shit. 746 00:25:56,255 --> 00:25:57,657 - Have you heard of Eugene Levy Park? 747 00:25:57,724 --> 00:25:58,958 - Yeah, I used to go to school here. 748 00:25:59,025 --> 00:26:00,559 That's why. - Oh. 749 00:26:00,627 --> 00:26:02,028 - Oh, you used to go to school here, 750 00:26:02,094 --> 00:26:03,696 and where we're meeting her is right here? 751 00:26:03,763 --> 00:26:05,197 - Yeah, it's, like, elementary school. 752 00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:07,566 Like, field trips, we would always go over here. 753 00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:10,302 Yeah, I haven't been here in a while. 754 00:26:10,369 --> 00:26:14,607 - All right, she said to meet her by the flagpole. 755 00:26:14,674 --> 00:26:16,876 Let's see. I mean, I assume we'll see it. 756 00:26:16,943 --> 00:26:18,745 Oh, there's a flag. 757 00:26:18,811 --> 00:26:20,780 - Oh, so up there? They want us to meet up there? 758 00:26:20,847 --> 00:26:22,314 - I guess so. 759 00:26:22,381 --> 00:26:24,216 - Just the anticipation's killing me. 760 00:26:24,283 --> 00:26:27,787 This is getting a little nerve-racking. 761 00:26:27,854 --> 00:26:28,988 - It's getting real now. 762 00:26:29,055 --> 00:26:30,657 - [groans] Here we go, guys. 763 00:26:30,723 --> 00:26:37,664 * * 764 00:26:41,668 --> 00:26:43,002 - Anyone up there? 765 00:26:43,069 --> 00:26:44,570 - Have no idea. 766 00:26:44,637 --> 00:26:45,772 Let's see. 767 00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:51,177 [trills lips] I don't see nobody. 768 00:26:54,814 --> 00:26:56,683 Ooh, it's cold, man. 769 00:26:56,749 --> 00:26:59,085 - I'm gonna let her know that we're here. 770 00:26:59,151 --> 00:27:00,619 - Okay. 771 00:27:02,254 --> 00:27:05,257 - I just wish we knew who we could expect. 772 00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:07,293 - Man, the anticipation, man. 773 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,162 It's just, like, finally here now. 774 00:27:10,229 --> 00:27:11,764 - Oh, wait a second. Who's that? 775 00:27:12,999 --> 00:27:14,200 - Oh, shit. 776 00:27:15,735 --> 00:27:16,903 - What the-- 777 00:27:16,969 --> 00:27:18,805 - Who is that? - Fuck. 778 00:27:20,707 --> 00:27:24,076 - Yo, what the fuck? 779 00:27:27,213 --> 00:27:29,849 [dramatic music] 780 00:27:29,916 --> 00:27:32,018 - [sighs] I don't see nobody. 781 00:27:32,084 --> 00:27:33,219 - Are you freaking out? 782 00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:35,387 - I got the nervous jitters. 783 00:27:37,757 --> 00:27:39,926 - Oh, wait a second. Who's that? 784 00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:41,861 - Oh, shit. 785 00:27:41,928 --> 00:27:42,895 - What the-- 786 00:27:42,962 --> 00:27:45,331 - Who is that? 787 00:27:45,397 --> 00:27:47,033 - What the-- - Who is that? 788 00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:48,434 - Fuck. 789 00:27:50,036 --> 00:27:51,203 Yo. 790 00:27:57,944 --> 00:27:59,145 - Shawn? 791 00:27:59,211 --> 00:28:00,813 What the fuck? 792 00:28:03,049 --> 00:28:04,183 - Hi. 793 00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:06,018 Your name is Shawn. 794 00:28:06,085 --> 00:28:08,687 - Shawn. - Okay. 795 00:28:08,755 --> 00:28:10,222 - Where's Iris, man? 796 00:28:10,289 --> 00:28:11,657 - Right here. 797 00:28:11,724 --> 00:28:15,227 - What in the actual fuck, man? 798 00:28:17,864 --> 00:28:19,465 Jesus. 799 00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:20,967 Why--why'd you do this? 800 00:28:21,033 --> 00:28:22,534 What did I do? 801 00:28:22,601 --> 00:28:27,306 - Well, Omar, honestly, this wasn't my idea. 802 00:28:27,373 --> 00:28:29,241 I didn't start this. 803 00:28:29,308 --> 00:28:30,509 - Who start this? 804 00:28:32,044 --> 00:28:33,946 - I will explain my side. 805 00:28:34,013 --> 00:28:36,515 He doesn't wanna be involved. 806 00:28:36,582 --> 00:28:38,885 He didn't wanna be a part of this. 807 00:28:38,951 --> 00:28:41,287 - So there's two people? 808 00:28:41,353 --> 00:28:44,323 What the fuck, man? 809 00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:47,159 - Why don't you just start by telling your part. 810 00:28:47,226 --> 00:28:49,628 - Well, we used to be friends. 811 00:28:49,695 --> 00:28:51,898 - You guys used to be friends? - Okay. 812 00:28:51,964 --> 00:28:54,066 - So, wait, is this the guy who posted you on Snapchat? 813 00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:55,334 - No, no, no. This is not him. 814 00:28:55,401 --> 00:28:56,803 - Oh. - This is not him. 815 00:28:56,869 --> 00:28:58,637 This is a whole other guy that I don't fuck with. 816 00:28:58,704 --> 00:29:01,040 We haven't been friends in a--in a while. 817 00:29:01,107 --> 00:29:02,208 - So hold on. I'm confused. 818 00:29:02,274 --> 00:29:04,510 So who was Omar talking to on the phone? 819 00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:07,479 - Well, once I got involved, it went under my number. 820 00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:11,017 The girl on the phone was just a girl that we found. 821 00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:12,518 Like, we know her. 822 00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:14,453 She doesn't wanna be involved, either. 823 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,255 - But they are involved. 824 00:29:16,322 --> 00:29:17,990 That's why we're here. 825 00:29:18,057 --> 00:29:20,692 That's why it's been six months of him talking to some girl, 826 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:21,727 so he thought. 827 00:29:21,794 --> 00:29:22,694 I don't get-- 828 00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:24,230 - And Omar knows this other guy? 829 00:29:24,296 --> 00:29:25,297 - Yeah. 830 00:29:25,364 --> 00:29:26,799 - Why were you involved? 831 00:29:26,866 --> 00:29:29,201 - I got on board because me and Omar 832 00:29:29,268 --> 00:29:32,138 have a history of him just, you know, 833 00:29:32,204 --> 00:29:34,306 being a dickhead to me. 834 00:29:34,373 --> 00:29:35,641 - Fuck out of here, bro. 835 00:29:35,707 --> 00:29:37,476 - Dude, you went on my phone, 836 00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:39,111 and you put me in a relationship 837 00:29:39,178 --> 00:29:41,413 with a girl I didn't wanna be with behind my back. 838 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,082 - Bro, we were kids when that happened, though. 839 00:29:43,149 --> 00:29:44,783 So you're still stuck up on that, though? 840 00:29:44,851 --> 00:29:46,718 - We were 17. - Are you serious? 841 00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:48,787 - That's just only one thing out of all the other things 842 00:29:48,855 --> 00:29:50,122 you've done to me. 843 00:29:50,189 --> 00:29:52,758 You went on a date with a girl that I had broken up with 844 00:29:52,825 --> 00:29:54,460 a day after I broke up with her. 845 00:29:54,526 --> 00:29:56,162 Come on, Omar. - Bro-- 846 00:29:56,228 --> 00:29:58,130 - You're not the best person. 847 00:29:58,197 --> 00:29:59,431 - Is that true? 848 00:29:59,498 --> 00:30:01,633 - I did talk to somebody, but it wasn't like that. 849 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:03,102 - You're supposed to be my friend, 850 00:30:03,169 --> 00:30:04,803 and you're going on a date with a girl that I was dating. 851 00:30:04,871 --> 00:30:06,405 - It wasn't a date. It wasn't a date. 852 00:30:06,472 --> 00:30:07,773 She was telling me about whatever happened with you, 853 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,308 and I was like, listen, I don't know what's going on. 854 00:30:09,375 --> 00:30:10,676 - You hung out with her, right? 855 00:30:10,742 --> 00:30:12,311 - Yeah, because they were having problems. 856 00:30:12,378 --> 00:30:13,645 But, like, I didn't do nothing with her. 857 00:30:13,712 --> 00:30:14,947 - Throughout our friendship, 858 00:30:15,014 --> 00:30:17,483 you were never the best friend to me. 859 00:30:17,549 --> 00:30:20,352 - So this is your way of getting back at me. 860 00:30:20,419 --> 00:30:21,921 - Okay, sorry. 861 00:30:21,988 --> 00:30:23,789 I just wanna try and get an understanding of the timeline. 862 00:30:23,856 --> 00:30:28,360 So some other person that is a mutual contact 863 00:30:28,427 --> 00:30:30,362 started this Snapchat and thought, 864 00:30:30,429 --> 00:30:32,398 I'm gonna catfish Omar. - Yes. 865 00:30:32,464 --> 00:30:35,801 - And you said, oh, I wanna get in on this. 866 00:30:35,868 --> 00:30:39,338 And so you sent him your phone number? 867 00:30:39,405 --> 00:30:40,539 - Yeah, my phone number. 868 00:30:40,606 --> 00:30:42,441 - Omar, do you have his number? 869 00:30:42,508 --> 00:30:43,842 - I don't have his number whatsoever. 870 00:30:43,910 --> 00:30:45,744 I haven't talked to this guy in a long time 871 00:30:45,811 --> 00:30:47,313 because we had a falling out. - How long ago was that? 872 00:30:47,379 --> 00:30:48,780 - Like, two years ago. 873 00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:51,350 - So since the relationship with Iris 874 00:30:51,417 --> 00:30:53,319 went from Snapchat to texting, 875 00:30:53,385 --> 00:30:55,287 it's always been you he's texting with? 876 00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:56,855 - Yeah. 877 00:30:56,923 --> 00:30:59,058 - At times, were other people texting on your phone? 878 00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:00,726 - Yeah, me and the person, the other person-- 879 00:31:00,792 --> 00:31:03,095 - The other guy? - Yeah, we'd be together. 880 00:31:03,162 --> 00:31:04,330 And he'd text, sometimes. 881 00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:06,598 - But for the most part, that was you. 882 00:31:06,665 --> 00:31:08,867 - Yeah. - Do you have a crush on Omar? 883 00:31:08,935 --> 00:31:11,170 - [laughs] No. No, I don't. It was-- 884 00:31:11,237 --> 00:31:14,140 - Because, like, I get the idea of, like, messing with someone. 885 00:31:14,206 --> 00:31:18,644 But it does feel like, to talk to him for six months, 886 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:20,913 you weren't messing with him. You were, like, his friend. 887 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:22,414 - I didn't mean for it to go this far 888 00:31:22,481 --> 00:31:23,549 and end up on "Catfish." 889 00:31:23,615 --> 00:31:27,453 I went into this hoping it would end 890 00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:29,388 after, like, a month or two. 891 00:31:29,455 --> 00:31:31,723 - So, like, what? Teach him, like, a lesson? 892 00:31:31,790 --> 00:31:33,059 - Like, you messed with me. 893 00:31:33,125 --> 00:31:34,693 I want you to feel what I've been feeling 894 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,128 when you've done me dirty. 895 00:31:36,195 --> 00:31:40,066 - Why not just finish the job and be like, got you. 896 00:31:40,132 --> 00:31:43,235 Now you know what it feels like, and peace out? 897 00:31:43,302 --> 00:31:45,537 - Honestly, I didn't really care about hurting him anymore. 898 00:31:45,604 --> 00:31:47,606 The person who's still friends with him, 899 00:31:47,673 --> 00:31:51,077 he decided to drag it on for six months. 900 00:31:51,143 --> 00:31:52,378 I was just along for a ride. 901 00:31:52,444 --> 00:31:53,980 If you look at the text messages, 902 00:31:54,046 --> 00:31:55,481 it's mainly him talking. 903 00:31:55,547 --> 00:31:58,517 I ignore everything flirty he's saying. 904 00:31:58,584 --> 00:32:01,320 You're basically talking to yourself. 905 00:32:01,387 --> 00:32:02,588 I'm not gonna lie. 906 00:32:02,654 --> 00:32:04,423 I don't think it's right. 907 00:32:04,490 --> 00:32:07,093 It's a little childish. 908 00:32:07,159 --> 00:32:09,228 Honestly, I just-- I really didn't think 909 00:32:09,295 --> 00:32:11,530 that it would get this far. 910 00:32:11,597 --> 00:32:14,200 - Okay, well, obviously, there's more to talk about 911 00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:16,568 with Shawn and, like, his whole side of this, 912 00:32:16,635 --> 00:32:19,238 but, like, who is someone that you think is a friend 913 00:32:19,305 --> 00:32:21,607 that would, A, wanna mess with you to begin with, 914 00:32:21,673 --> 00:32:24,376 and then, B, encourage someone else 915 00:32:24,443 --> 00:32:25,877 to, like, mess with you more? 916 00:32:25,944 --> 00:32:26,678 - I don't know. 917 00:32:26,745 --> 00:32:28,247 Seriously, who is it? 918 00:32:28,314 --> 00:32:30,682 Who put you up to this, bro? 919 00:32:30,749 --> 00:32:32,718 - Let me call him. Can I--can I call him? 920 00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:33,552 - Sure. 921 00:32:33,619 --> 00:32:35,154 - Fuck out of here, bro. 922 00:32:35,221 --> 00:32:36,488 Jesus. 923 00:32:36,555 --> 00:32:39,458 [tense music] 924 00:32:39,525 --> 00:32:41,060 * * 925 00:32:41,127 --> 00:32:42,561 - Hey, man. 926 00:32:42,628 --> 00:32:44,396 I'm up here with Omar. 927 00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:46,298 I need you to come clear this stuff up, man. 928 00:32:46,365 --> 00:32:47,433 Please. 929 00:32:47,499 --> 00:32:48,767 - Who could this other person be? 930 00:32:48,834 --> 00:32:50,836 Could it be the friend that posted your Snapchat? 931 00:32:50,902 --> 00:32:52,171 - Leonard? - I don't know. 932 00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:54,106 - I mean, it's gotta be someone you both know. 933 00:32:54,173 --> 00:32:56,308 - So seriously, like, who is the person? 934 00:32:56,375 --> 00:32:58,744 - All right, bye. 935 00:33:00,946 --> 00:33:02,348 - Any luck? 936 00:33:02,414 --> 00:33:04,283 - I contacted him. 937 00:33:04,350 --> 00:33:08,220 He said he's willing to come or meet up somewhere else. 938 00:33:08,287 --> 00:33:09,355 - Okay. 939 00:33:09,421 --> 00:33:10,656 - He will text you. 940 00:33:10,722 --> 00:33:12,291 - He'll text Omar? 941 00:33:12,358 --> 00:33:14,193 - Yeah. - [trills lips] 942 00:33:14,260 --> 00:33:15,427 - Do you have your phone? 943 00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:17,096 - Yes. - Did you get a text? 944 00:33:17,163 --> 00:33:18,264 Did you? 945 00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:20,532 - Yeah, I did. 946 00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:22,068 - Who is it? 947 00:33:22,134 --> 00:33:23,202 - It's this guy, Edmond. 948 00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:25,237 He's a friend that I literally hang out with 949 00:33:25,304 --> 00:33:27,573 most all the time. He's a snake like that? 950 00:33:27,639 --> 00:33:29,375 - So Edmond is the friend? 951 00:33:29,441 --> 00:33:31,643 - Yes. - "Hey, Omar. It's Edmond. 952 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:33,912 "Shawn told me what's going on, and I apologize. 953 00:33:33,979 --> 00:33:35,581 I didn't mean for this to get this far." 954 00:33:35,647 --> 00:33:37,716 - We need to talk to Edmond. 955 00:33:37,783 --> 00:33:39,885 - I think we should go meet Edmond. 956 00:33:39,951 --> 00:33:41,887 There's, like, a restaurant we can meet him at 957 00:33:41,953 --> 00:33:44,790 not far from here and get the whole story. 958 00:33:44,856 --> 00:33:45,991 - Okay. 959 00:33:46,058 --> 00:33:47,526 - We'll text you and tell you where to meet us. 960 00:33:47,593 --> 00:33:49,195 We'll see you in a few minutes? - Yeah. 961 00:33:49,261 --> 00:33:50,229 - All right. 962 00:33:50,296 --> 00:33:56,535 * * 963 00:33:56,602 --> 00:33:58,937 - I didn't fucking think my own friend would do this to me. 964 00:33:59,004 --> 00:34:01,407 - What the fuck has gone on with you and Edmond, 965 00:34:01,473 --> 00:34:02,908 and why he would play with you like that? 966 00:34:04,476 --> 00:34:05,911 - Jesus, man. 967 00:34:05,977 --> 00:34:07,979 I just wanted to get to the bottom of this. 968 00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:08,947 That's crazy. 969 00:34:12,118 --> 00:34:14,186 - Why don't you text Shawn and Edmond 970 00:34:14,253 --> 00:34:19,291 and tell them to meet us at Gardenia restaurant. 971 00:34:19,358 --> 00:34:22,894 The fact that, this whole time, you've had a close friendship 972 00:34:22,961 --> 00:34:24,463 with Edmond and he's known about this 973 00:34:24,530 --> 00:34:27,299 and been, like, involved-- 974 00:34:27,366 --> 00:34:28,934 it's, like, very weird. 975 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,369 - Friends don't play like that. 976 00:34:30,436 --> 00:34:32,037 - Yeah. 977 00:34:32,104 --> 00:34:34,873 [tense music] 978 00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:36,408 Okay. 979 00:34:36,475 --> 00:34:43,615 * * 980 00:34:46,952 --> 00:34:48,354 - Are you gonna be cool? Like-- 981 00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:49,588 - Yeah, I'm not gonna launch over the table. 982 00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:50,956 - [laughs] - Sit and talk to Edmond. 983 00:34:51,022 --> 00:34:52,090 - Yeah, I just wanna know why. 984 00:34:52,158 --> 00:34:53,259 - I don't know. 985 00:34:53,325 --> 00:34:56,595 I don't know how you wanna go about this. 986 00:34:56,662 --> 00:34:58,029 - I'm gonna let them talk. 987 00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:00,065 And then I'm gonna hear what they have to say 988 00:35:00,132 --> 00:35:01,700 because I wanna know what's going on. 989 00:35:01,767 --> 00:35:03,902 - When was the last time you saw Edmond? 990 00:35:03,969 --> 00:35:06,372 - Right now. - It's been a minute. 991 00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:08,340 - Here they are. - Hi. 992 00:35:08,407 --> 00:35:09,341 - Hey, everybody. 993 00:35:09,408 --> 00:35:11,143 - What's up? Nev. 994 00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:12,844 - Nice to meet you. Edmond. - Good to meet you. 995 00:35:12,911 --> 00:35:13,979 - I don't know if I should shake your hand. 996 00:35:14,045 --> 00:35:15,314 - Okay. - We didn't really meet. 997 00:35:15,381 --> 00:35:16,682 - Shawn. - Thanks for coming back. 998 00:35:16,748 --> 00:35:18,184 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 999 00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:19,785 We didn't properly meet earlier. 1000 00:35:19,851 --> 00:35:22,554 - Have a seat, fellas. Have a seat. 1001 00:35:24,656 --> 00:35:26,292 [exhales deeply] 1002 00:35:26,358 --> 00:35:27,726 Well, I'm glad you showed up. 1003 00:35:27,793 --> 00:35:30,862 Shawn was not going to speak on your behalf. 1004 00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:32,130 But we're very happy that you're here 1005 00:35:32,198 --> 00:35:34,400 to do that for yourself. - Yeah. 1006 00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:37,336 - I think it would be helpful for all of us, but mainly Omar, 1007 00:35:37,403 --> 00:35:40,606 if you just kind of walked us through how this all 1008 00:35:40,672 --> 00:35:42,708 got started, how then Shawn got-- 1009 00:35:42,774 --> 00:35:44,743 like, we just wanna get the whole story. 1010 00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:47,313 - Okay, well, first, it started about, like, 1011 00:35:47,379 --> 00:35:49,014 I'd say, seven months ago now. 1012 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,284 And honestly, it started off as a joke because we were friends. 1013 00:35:52,351 --> 00:35:54,085 And, like, we do that all the time, jokes. 1014 00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:56,355 - Right, so you were just trying to mess with Omar. 1015 00:35:56,422 --> 00:35:58,424 You weren't trying to get revenge like Shawn was? 1016 00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:59,758 - No, it was just a joke. 1017 00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:01,960 But I didn't think it was gonna get this deep. 1018 00:36:02,027 --> 00:36:04,863 And it was nothing, like, too crazy at first. 1019 00:36:04,930 --> 00:36:06,632 It was two weeks by myself, 1020 00:36:06,698 --> 00:36:08,734 and then two weeks, I incorporated Shawn in. 1021 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,068 - All right, so how did that happen? 1022 00:36:10,135 --> 00:36:11,370 - I was at his house, actually, 1023 00:36:11,437 --> 00:36:12,604 and the next thing you know, I was like, yo, 1024 00:36:12,671 --> 00:36:13,939 you trying to get in on this? 1025 00:36:14,005 --> 00:36:15,307 'Cause I knew they had, like, the bad history. 1026 00:36:15,374 --> 00:36:16,975 But at the time, it was-- I wasn't thinking about that. 1027 00:36:17,042 --> 00:36:18,744 I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I did a little bit. 1028 00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:20,412 But I didn't think it was gonna get too far, 1029 00:36:20,479 --> 00:36:21,780 if you get what I mean. 1030 00:36:21,847 --> 00:36:24,149 - I was gonna say, 'cause if it started as a joke 1031 00:36:24,216 --> 00:36:25,784 but then you asked him if he wants in on it, 1032 00:36:25,851 --> 00:36:27,853 you must have known that it was gonna 1033 00:36:27,919 --> 00:36:29,688 take a different tone... - Yeah. 1034 00:36:29,755 --> 00:36:31,223 - Knowing that they have beef. 1035 00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:33,725 That's when it becomes not a joke. 1036 00:36:33,792 --> 00:36:36,262 - So after you included Shawn, 1037 00:36:36,328 --> 00:36:39,531 and you knew the whole time how much communication 1038 00:36:39,598 --> 00:36:41,300 was taking place because Shawn was either 1039 00:36:41,367 --> 00:36:43,569 showing you the messages or you were there for some of them. 1040 00:36:43,635 --> 00:36:47,172 You were fully aware of the extent of their communication? 1041 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,474 - Yeah. Mm-hmm. 1042 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:52,177 - And you have a friendship with Omar separately. 1043 00:36:52,244 --> 00:36:53,979 Did he ever talk about Iris with you? 1044 00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:55,247 - He did. 1045 00:36:55,314 --> 00:36:56,782 - Did he ever mention that he was talking to a girl? 1046 00:36:56,848 --> 00:36:58,817 - Like, I didn't realize how invested Omar was. 1047 00:36:58,884 --> 00:37:00,986 - Well, you knew about the calls. 1048 00:37:01,052 --> 00:37:04,089 At what point was a girl recruited to be a part of this? 1049 00:37:04,155 --> 00:37:05,591 - Oh, it's somebody that I knew. 1050 00:37:05,657 --> 00:37:06,825 She doesn't wanna be a part of this. 1051 00:37:06,892 --> 00:37:08,460 I already asked her. She has--you know. 1052 00:37:08,527 --> 00:37:09,961 - Sure. 1053 00:37:10,028 --> 00:37:11,196 - And it's like--she just did me a favor, pretty much. 1054 00:37:11,263 --> 00:37:12,798 - But she did it a few times, right? 1055 00:37:12,864 --> 00:37:14,266 - Yeah. I know her. 1056 00:37:14,333 --> 00:37:17,135 - And she seemed to know enough about, like-- 1057 00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:18,970 - Yeah, she's into, like, most of the stuff we are, 1058 00:37:19,037 --> 00:37:21,440 like anime stuff, probably because of her boyfriend. 1059 00:37:21,507 --> 00:37:22,774 She has brothers as well. 1060 00:37:22,841 --> 00:37:24,376 - Okay. But she has a boyfriend. 1061 00:37:24,443 --> 00:37:25,744 - Yeah, she has a boyfriend right now. 1062 00:37:25,811 --> 00:37:27,546 Once I realized it kind of got too deep, 1063 00:37:27,613 --> 00:37:29,748 it's like, we should continue it. 1064 00:37:29,815 --> 00:37:31,783 But it's, like, eventually, he will stop. 1065 00:37:31,850 --> 00:37:33,452 But I guess he didn't. 1066 00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:37,222 - You asked Shawn to keep going so that Omar wouldn't get hurt? 1067 00:37:37,289 --> 00:37:38,657 - Yeah. 1068 00:37:38,724 --> 00:37:40,726 - In the hopes that Omar would just sort of lose interest? 1069 00:37:40,792 --> 00:37:42,694 - Yeah. 1070 00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:44,430 - Yeah, it's a lot to unpack, bro. 1071 00:37:44,496 --> 00:37:46,264 Like, to be honest, bro, like, you know, 1072 00:37:46,332 --> 00:37:48,300 I'm very disappointed, and I'm very sad, bro, 1073 00:37:48,367 --> 00:37:50,636 because, you know, like, I really cared about this girl. 1074 00:37:50,702 --> 00:37:52,404 And, well, it's not even a girl. 1075 00:37:52,471 --> 00:37:54,373 But I was really--you know, my feelings were there. 1076 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,408 I thought you and I were cool, man. 1077 00:37:56,475 --> 00:37:57,643 - I mean, yeah, I understand. 1078 00:37:57,709 --> 00:37:59,277 - Ugh. You know what? 1079 00:37:59,345 --> 00:38:00,779 I'm gonna need to take some time from y'all, man, 1080 00:38:00,846 --> 00:38:02,047 especially you, Edmond. 1081 00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:03,582 - We haven't spoke in, like, over a year. 1082 00:38:03,649 --> 00:38:05,183 So we don't have to be friends. 1083 00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:07,419 You don't--you still don't take accountability 1084 00:38:07,486 --> 00:38:09,555 for your actions of the past. 1085 00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:12,090 - Look, this is a mess. 1086 00:38:12,157 --> 00:38:13,525 - Mm-hmm. 1087 00:38:13,592 --> 00:38:16,061 - But as someone who has grown up 1088 00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:19,097 and matured a lot from my teenage self, 1089 00:38:19,164 --> 00:38:21,800 getting constructive criticism 1090 00:38:21,867 --> 00:38:24,202 from people who were once friends of mine 1091 00:38:24,269 --> 00:38:25,504 is very helpful. 1092 00:38:25,571 --> 00:38:28,774 Shawn, can you be more descriptive in what exactly 1093 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,410 Omar has done in the past so that maybe he can learn from it 1094 00:38:31,477 --> 00:38:34,546 so that he doesn't have more people out there who are, 1095 00:38:34,613 --> 00:38:36,114 like, trying to mess with him? 1096 00:38:36,181 --> 00:38:38,216 - Yeah, with me and Omar's past, 1097 00:38:38,283 --> 00:38:41,119 he's been very selfish in our friendship. 1098 00:38:41,186 --> 00:38:42,921 Any type of girl that comes along, 1099 00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:45,223 he's just so quick to turn his back on us. 1100 00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:47,993 And I think for him to grow as a person, 1101 00:38:48,059 --> 00:38:51,597 he has to realize what's really in front of him 1102 00:38:51,663 --> 00:38:53,632 and stop chasing after these women. 1103 00:38:53,699 --> 00:38:55,967 But you also don't have to stab your friends in the back 1104 00:38:56,034 --> 00:38:57,403 because a girl gives you attention. 1105 00:38:57,469 --> 00:38:59,270 - Can you see that? - I can see that. 1106 00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:01,039 That's why I was, like, I got a lot of reflecting 1107 00:39:01,106 --> 00:39:02,641 to do on that aspect. 1108 00:39:02,708 --> 00:39:04,275 But at the same time, 1109 00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:05,644 y'all could've just told me that 1110 00:39:05,711 --> 00:39:06,678 instead of doing all this. 1111 00:39:06,745 --> 00:39:07,746 - I did. - We have. 1112 00:39:07,813 --> 00:39:09,080 We have plenty of times. 1113 00:39:09,147 --> 00:39:11,116 - I wanna apologize for everything, all right? 1114 00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:14,119 To be honest, if you're upset about your ex, 1115 00:39:14,185 --> 00:39:16,321 I'm sorry that I went on a coffee date with her. 1116 00:39:16,388 --> 00:39:17,623 I'm sorry. 1117 00:39:17,689 --> 00:39:19,257 - I do still think, though, that there definitely 1118 00:39:19,324 --> 00:39:21,960 needs to be some reflection and accountability on your side. 1119 00:39:22,027 --> 00:39:23,929 - Yeah. - This wasn't nothing. 1120 00:39:23,995 --> 00:39:25,363 It wasn't just a joke. 1121 00:39:25,431 --> 00:39:26,698 Like, there was definitely layers to this 1122 00:39:26,765 --> 00:39:28,099 that I feel like... - Yeah. Okay. 1123 00:39:28,166 --> 00:39:30,268 - You guys should spend some time trying to figure out. 1124 00:39:30,335 --> 00:39:32,003 - And honestly, I do apologize for this. 1125 00:39:32,070 --> 00:39:33,038 You know? I do. 1126 00:39:33,104 --> 00:39:34,940 - You've apologized. 1127 00:39:35,006 --> 00:39:36,307 - Yeah, I sincerely apologize, man. 1128 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:38,510 - You've apologized. - Mm-hmm. 1129 00:39:38,577 --> 00:39:42,080 - Do you feel you have anything to apologize for? 1130 00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:46,084 - Don't say anything you don't mean. 1131 00:39:46,151 --> 00:39:47,553 - I'm sorry it got this far. 1132 00:39:47,619 --> 00:39:49,788 I'm not sorry that you're upset about it, so. 1133 00:39:49,855 --> 00:39:51,289 - That's all right. 1134 00:39:51,356 --> 00:39:52,658 I said my piece. You said your piece. 1135 00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:53,992 It's cool now. 1136 00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:56,261 Edmond, you and me, I've said, I gotta see 1137 00:39:56,327 --> 00:39:59,030 what happens with this now. - No, I understand, bro. 1138 00:39:59,097 --> 00:40:01,166 - So that's all I gotta say to you guys right now. 1139 00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:03,469 - I don't think any of y'all need to be friends. 1140 00:40:03,535 --> 00:40:04,603 I have to say it. 1141 00:40:04,670 --> 00:40:05,904 - All right. 1142 00:40:05,971 --> 00:40:06,972 We're gonna hang out here for a minute, 1143 00:40:07,038 --> 00:40:09,808 but you guys can head out. 1144 00:40:09,875 --> 00:40:12,177 So we'll say goodbye. 1145 00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:14,846 - All right. - Good to meet you both. 1146 00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:16,081 - Good to meet you too. 1147 00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:18,283 - Have a good one. Good luck. 1148 00:40:18,349 --> 00:40:19,985 - It's a pleasure. Pleasure to meet you. 1149 00:40:20,051 --> 00:40:23,188 - Nice to meet you. 1150 00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:24,990 All right. Take care. 1151 00:40:26,357 --> 00:40:27,759 All right. 1152 00:40:27,826 --> 00:40:30,161 - Well, that was better than I thought it was gonna be 1153 00:40:30,228 --> 00:40:31,697 'cause I thought we were gonna-- 1154 00:40:31,763 --> 00:40:32,831 it's gonna be a shouting match. 1155 00:40:32,898 --> 00:40:34,332 - You handled it like men. 1156 00:40:34,399 --> 00:40:36,902 - So you're ready to move on from Iris? 1157 00:40:36,968 --> 00:40:39,638 - Yeah, that's too much, man, too much. 1158 00:40:39,705 --> 00:40:44,676 But ready to put it to bed now and, yeah, move on. 1159 00:40:44,743 --> 00:40:46,011 We good now. 1160 00:40:46,077 --> 00:40:48,013 So that's all I gotta say. 1161 00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,081 - * I'm so tired of lows * 1162 00:40:50,148 --> 00:40:51,750 * I'm waiting for the highs * 1163 00:40:51,817 --> 00:40:54,319 * I wanna be exposed to * 1164 00:40:54,385 --> 00:40:56,454 * What's on the other side * 1165 00:40:56,522 --> 00:40:58,690 * Oh, what's on the other * 1166 00:40:58,757 --> 00:41:03,361 * Oh * 1167 00:41:03,428 --> 00:41:05,063 * What's on the other * 1168 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:09,735 - Sebastian and Allison, talking for three years. 1169 00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:12,037 - I feel like she cares a lot about me. 1170 00:41:12,103 --> 00:41:13,839 It's, you know, love. 1171 00:41:13,905 --> 00:41:15,073 - Let's run the number. 1172 00:41:15,140 --> 00:41:16,107 - Allison [bleep]. 1173 00:41:16,174 --> 00:41:17,776 60 years old. 1174 00:41:17,843 --> 00:41:19,177 - She's 30 years older? 1175 00:41:19,244 --> 00:41:21,312 That's a whole nother thing. 1176 00:41:21,379 --> 00:41:23,815 I see someone back here under the trees. 1177 00:41:23,882 --> 00:41:25,383 - Somebody's right there. - Hello?