1 00:00:07,352 --> 00:00:09,319 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:09,388 --> 00:00:13,047 - Sebastian and Allison talking for three years. 3 00:00:13,116 --> 00:00:15,256 - I feel like she cares a lot about me. 4 00:00:15,325 --> 00:00:17,258 It's, you know, love. 5 00:00:17,327 --> 00:00:18,604 - Let's run the number. 6 00:00:18,673 --> 00:00:21,159 - Allison Twigley, 60 years old. 7 00:00:21,228 --> 00:00:23,782 - If she's 30 years older than she's saying, 8 00:00:23,851 --> 00:00:25,991 that's a whole nother thing. 9 00:00:28,269 --> 00:00:29,891 - Oh. 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,583 [line beeping] - What the fuck? 11 00:00:31,652 --> 00:00:32,998 - Oh, wait a second. 12 00:00:33,067 --> 00:00:35,587 I see someone back here under the trees. 13 00:00:35,656 --> 00:00:37,313 - Somebody's right there. - Hello? 14 00:00:37,382 --> 00:00:40,005 [dramatic music] 15 00:00:40,074 --> 00:00:41,420 [upbeat music] 16 00:00:41,489 --> 00:00:43,974 - Stay hydrated, y'all. 17 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:46,805 - ♪ Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo ♪ 18 00:00:46,874 --> 00:00:47,806 - Ready? 19 00:00:47,875 --> 00:00:50,636 You got your flagies? 20 00:00:50,705 --> 00:00:52,328 How's my hair? 21 00:00:52,397 --> 00:00:54,364 - You look like a cartoon. 22 00:00:54,433 --> 00:00:55,710 - Why? 23 00:00:55,779 --> 00:00:56,918 - 'Cause it has, like, the perfect amount 24 00:00:56,987 --> 00:00:58,230 of pieces that are out. - Hmm. 25 00:01:00,267 --> 00:01:02,476 - No. [both laugh] 26 00:01:02,545 --> 00:01:04,685 All right. Well, here we go. 27 00:01:04,754 --> 00:01:07,653 Sebastian, California. - Mm. 28 00:01:07,722 --> 00:01:10,449 - Subject, "Not the reaction I expected." 29 00:01:10,518 --> 00:01:12,002 - ♪ I can hear you ♪ 30 00:01:12,072 --> 00:01:15,282 - "Hello Nev and Kamie, this is Sebastian. 31 00:01:15,351 --> 00:01:16,869 "I'm 30 years old. 32 00:01:16,938 --> 00:01:18,319 "I'm currently staying at a friend's place 33 00:01:18,388 --> 00:01:20,080 in Inglewood, California." 34 00:01:20,149 --> 00:01:21,357 - Close by. 35 00:01:21,426 --> 00:01:24,360 - "I'm an aspiring DJ but have done various jobs 36 00:01:24,429 --> 00:01:25,844 "throughout the years. 37 00:01:25,913 --> 00:01:27,397 "Moving around is something I'm used to doing, 38 00:01:27,466 --> 00:01:30,020 but it makes maintaining relationships challenging." 39 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:31,125 - Mm. 40 00:01:31,194 --> 00:01:32,713 - "The most consistent person, for me, 41 00:01:32,782 --> 00:01:34,784 has been a woman named Allison." 42 00:01:34,853 --> 00:01:36,303 - ♪ I believe, I believe ♪ 43 00:01:36,372 --> 00:01:37,683 ♪ I believe in you ♪ 44 00:01:37,752 --> 00:01:39,271 - "She's a single mom with two kids, 45 00:01:39,340 --> 00:01:41,411 "living in Jacksonville, Florida, 46 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,138 "and I met her three years ago in a live 47 00:01:44,207 --> 00:01:45,795 I was doing on Plenty of Fish." 48 00:01:45,864 --> 00:01:47,072 - ♪ I believe, I believe ♪ 49 00:01:47,141 --> 00:01:49,143 ♪ I believe and I trust ♪ 50 00:01:49,212 --> 00:01:50,834 - "I was living in Georgia at the time"-- 51 00:01:50,903 --> 00:01:52,905 okay, so that's close to Jacksonville-- 52 00:01:52,974 --> 00:01:55,874 "but ended up moving to California two years ago. 53 00:01:55,943 --> 00:01:57,945 "Even with the distance, we managed 54 00:01:58,014 --> 00:01:59,602 to message each other daily." 55 00:01:59,671 --> 00:02:01,535 - ♪ Shout it loud ♪ 56 00:02:01,604 --> 00:02:03,053 ♪ You shine a light ♪ 57 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:06,126 - "She is my best friend, and I turn to her whenever 58 00:02:06,195 --> 00:02:08,128 I need some support or encouragement." 59 00:02:08,197 --> 00:02:11,924 - ♪ Going out to look at the lights ♪ 60 00:02:11,993 --> 00:02:14,030 ♪ All frequencies ♪ 61 00:02:14,099 --> 00:02:16,584 - "I thought the only reason we weren't together romantically 62 00:02:16,653 --> 00:02:18,552 "was because we lived so far apart. 63 00:02:18,621 --> 00:02:21,934 "I told her that I was moving back to the East Coast. 64 00:02:22,003 --> 00:02:25,869 "I thought she'd be excited, but she wasn't. 65 00:02:25,938 --> 00:02:28,044 "Her reaction was so strange that 66 00:02:28,113 --> 00:02:31,323 "it has me wondering if she's hiding something from me. 67 00:02:31,392 --> 00:02:33,567 "I'm hoping that she's exactly the person 68 00:02:33,636 --> 00:02:35,051 "she's been saying she is. 69 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,536 "But I don't want to move across the country 70 00:02:37,605 --> 00:02:40,056 and find out that I've been fooling myself." 71 00:02:40,125 --> 00:02:41,885 - ♪ You got this? ♪ 72 00:02:41,954 --> 00:02:44,888 - "I hope to talk to you soon. Thank you, Sebastian." 73 00:02:44,957 --> 00:02:46,959 - ♪ You got it now ♪ 74 00:02:47,028 --> 00:02:48,651 - Florida and Plenty of Fish-- 75 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:49,824 - I know. I know. 76 00:02:49,893 --> 00:02:51,481 - In the same sentence. 77 00:02:51,550 --> 00:02:53,069 - It's not a good start. 78 00:02:53,138 --> 00:02:54,691 - I didn't really see anything in here 79 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,210 about like, we're in love. 80 00:02:56,279 --> 00:02:59,696 Like maybe she does not feel the same way about him 81 00:02:59,765 --> 00:03:01,008 as he feels about her. 82 00:03:01,077 --> 00:03:02,492 - We got a lot of questions. 83 00:03:02,561 --> 00:03:05,150 Let's give Sebastian a call. 84 00:03:05,219 --> 00:03:07,152 [line trilling] 85 00:03:08,429 --> 00:03:10,638 - Yo, is this DJ Sebastian? 86 00:03:11,708 --> 00:03:13,572 - What's your DJ name? 87 00:03:13,641 --> 00:03:15,471 - Oh. - DJ Baz. 88 00:03:15,540 --> 00:03:16,989 I like it. What's up, man? 89 00:03:17,058 --> 00:03:19,268 It's Nev and Kamie. - Hey. 90 00:03:19,337 --> 00:03:23,030 - We just saw your email, and we need to know some more. 91 00:03:23,099 --> 00:03:26,067 - Do you consider Allison to be like, your girlfriend? 92 00:03:28,932 --> 00:03:30,348 - Okay. - Oh. 93 00:03:31,797 --> 00:03:33,696 - Oh. - But obviously, Sebastian, 94 00:03:33,765 --> 00:03:35,491 if you're hitting us up, it's because you think 95 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,113 something is off with Allison. 96 00:03:42,152 --> 00:03:43,671 - All right, well, look, I still have 97 00:03:43,740 --> 00:03:45,259 a million questions for you. 98 00:03:45,328 --> 00:03:47,675 Where's the best place that we can meet with you? 99 00:03:52,370 --> 00:03:53,681 - Got it. 100 00:03:53,750 --> 00:03:56,857 So why don't we find you a spot that we can bring you to? 101 00:03:58,376 --> 00:04:00,240 - We can pick you up, and we can get into it. 102 00:04:01,448 --> 00:04:03,519 - All right, man. We'll talk to you soon. 103 00:04:03,588 --> 00:04:05,037 - Bye. - See ya. 104 00:04:05,106 --> 00:04:06,763 - Hmm. 105 00:04:06,832 --> 00:04:09,318 If I had spent three years talking to her 106 00:04:09,387 --> 00:04:11,837 and then I tell her I'm moving back to the East Coast, 107 00:04:11,906 --> 00:04:15,082 and she's not excited, that is weird. 108 00:04:15,151 --> 00:04:16,117 - Yeah. 109 00:04:16,186 --> 00:04:20,363 - Clearly, DJ Baz's head is spinning, 110 00:04:20,432 --> 00:04:23,849 and we've only just scratched the surface. 111 00:04:23,918 --> 00:04:24,885 - Let's go. 112 00:04:24,954 --> 00:04:26,127 - All right, let's go. 113 00:04:26,196 --> 00:04:27,059 - [laughs] 114 00:04:27,128 --> 00:04:29,579 [drum and bass music] 115 00:04:29,648 --> 00:04:31,754 - DJ Baz. 116 00:04:31,823 --> 00:04:33,273 - Whomp, whomp, whomp, whomp, whomp. 117 00:04:33,342 --> 00:04:37,829 Sebastian took the train from Inglewood. 118 00:04:37,898 --> 00:04:39,037 That's got to be him, right? 119 00:04:39,106 --> 00:04:41,108 - That's got to be him. 120 00:04:41,177 --> 00:04:42,454 - Sebastian? 121 00:04:42,523 --> 00:04:43,490 both: Hey. 122 00:04:43,559 --> 00:04:44,767 - Wow, all right. 123 00:04:44,836 --> 00:04:46,009 - How's it going, guys? - What's up, man? 124 00:04:46,078 --> 00:04:47,701 - Hey, good to meet you. - You too. 125 00:04:47,770 --> 00:04:49,081 - I'm Kamie. - Hey, Kamie. 126 00:04:49,150 --> 00:04:50,738 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 127 00:04:50,807 --> 00:04:52,084 - Welcome. 128 00:04:52,153 --> 00:04:54,570 - All right, well, we got you a spot to stay 129 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:56,848 while you're in the area. 130 00:04:56,917 --> 00:04:58,746 - Great. - Do you have a car? 131 00:04:58,815 --> 00:05:00,403 - No, not right now. No. 132 00:05:00,472 --> 00:05:02,336 - Tough. - Yeah. 133 00:05:02,405 --> 00:05:03,889 Yeah, pretty tough. 134 00:05:03,958 --> 00:05:05,650 - So how often are you DJing? 135 00:05:05,719 --> 00:05:09,654 - I try to get booked, like, you know, when I can. 136 00:05:09,723 --> 00:05:11,932 But, you know, there's a lot of DJs that, you know, 137 00:05:12,001 --> 00:05:13,174 I'm in competition with. - Yeah, of course. 138 00:05:13,243 --> 00:05:14,831 What's the thought or plan about moving 139 00:05:14,900 --> 00:05:16,177 back to the East Coast? 140 00:05:16,246 --> 00:05:18,490 Is there, like some place or reason, 141 00:05:18,559 --> 00:05:20,975 or are you just wanting to move closer to Allison? 142 00:05:21,044 --> 00:05:23,392 - That's kind of a big part of it. 143 00:05:23,461 --> 00:05:25,290 - Well, so you got a lot you need to figure out. 144 00:05:25,359 --> 00:05:26,395 - Yeah. 145 00:05:26,464 --> 00:05:28,742 - Yeah, most definitely. 146 00:05:28,811 --> 00:05:30,019 - All right. 147 00:05:30,088 --> 00:05:31,745 I think we got a cute little spot. 148 00:05:32,884 --> 00:05:34,713 All right, let's head in. 149 00:05:34,782 --> 00:05:37,647 [upbeat music] 150 00:05:37,716 --> 00:05:38,683 - Oh, thank you. 151 00:05:38,752 --> 00:05:39,787 - You're welcome. 152 00:05:39,856 --> 00:05:40,823 - What a gent. 153 00:05:40,892 --> 00:05:42,134 It's cute. 154 00:05:42,203 --> 00:05:43,273 - Wow. 155 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,275 - Oh, my gosh. - Very spacious. 156 00:05:45,345 --> 00:05:46,311 A pool? 157 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:48,693 - Wow, this is a nice little pool. 158 00:05:48,762 --> 00:05:51,558 ♪ ♪ 159 00:05:51,627 --> 00:05:52,662 All right. 160 00:05:52,731 --> 00:05:54,146 Well, it's good to meet you. 161 00:05:54,215 --> 00:05:55,355 - You too. 162 00:05:55,424 --> 00:05:56,977 - Well, I feel like we've been driving and talking, 163 00:05:57,046 --> 00:05:58,185 and I already know you, so all right. 164 00:05:58,254 --> 00:05:59,842 So before I start asking questions, 165 00:05:59,911 --> 00:06:01,257 since we still don't really know that much 166 00:06:01,326 --> 00:06:03,466 about your relationship with Allison, 167 00:06:03,535 --> 00:06:05,882 can you take us back, give us the recap 168 00:06:05,951 --> 00:06:07,436 of the last three years. 169 00:06:07,505 --> 00:06:08,816 - Okay. 170 00:06:08,885 --> 00:06:11,163 So three years ago, I was on POF. 171 00:06:11,232 --> 00:06:12,682 - Why? 172 00:06:12,751 --> 00:06:14,201 [laughter] 173 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:17,342 Why does anybody get on POF? 174 00:06:17,411 --> 00:06:21,001 - I like POF because, you know, I do do my DJing, 175 00:06:21,070 --> 00:06:23,969 you know, my streaming and stuff, so-- 176 00:06:24,038 --> 00:06:26,040 - Oh, you stream your DJing on-- 177 00:06:26,109 --> 00:06:27,663 - Through POF, yes. 178 00:06:27,732 --> 00:06:28,905 - Okay, so there you are. 179 00:06:28,974 --> 00:06:30,562 You're playing music. 180 00:06:30,631 --> 00:06:33,220 - And then, boom, you know, Allison pops into my life. 181 00:06:33,289 --> 00:06:35,464 She starts to send me fire emojis, 182 00:06:35,533 --> 00:06:38,674 you know, requesting songs, interacting and everything. 183 00:06:38,743 --> 00:06:40,469 And she gave me her Snap. 184 00:06:40,538 --> 00:06:43,057 And, you know, we started talking from there. 185 00:06:43,126 --> 00:06:44,576 - Did she have pictures on Snapchat? 186 00:06:44,645 --> 00:06:46,544 - She had sent me some pictures. 187 00:06:46,613 --> 00:06:47,752 - On Snapchat? 188 00:06:47,821 --> 00:06:49,339 - Yes. 189 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:50,962 - What is her personality like? 190 00:06:51,031 --> 00:06:52,619 What do you like about her? 191 00:06:52,688 --> 00:06:56,346 - She's just really supportive and encouraging to me. 192 00:06:56,416 --> 00:06:59,211 And I feel like she cares a lot about me. 193 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:01,628 - And you don't have a lot of people like that. 194 00:07:01,697 --> 00:07:02,836 - I don't. 195 00:07:02,905 --> 00:07:05,390 It's, you know, love, you know? 196 00:07:05,459 --> 00:07:06,529 - You love her? 197 00:07:06,598 --> 00:07:08,220 - Yes, I love her, yes. 198 00:07:08,289 --> 00:07:09,946 - And you're talking every day at this point? 199 00:07:10,015 --> 00:07:11,638 - Every day. - Okay. 200 00:07:11,707 --> 00:07:13,433 - So fast forward a little bit. 201 00:07:13,502 --> 00:07:14,572 You then move. 202 00:07:14,641 --> 00:07:16,401 - Yeah, we were kind of-- 203 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:20,267 I would say, like, it's like a long-distance relationship. 204 00:07:20,336 --> 00:07:23,063 - So why no FaceTiming this entire time? 205 00:07:23,132 --> 00:07:24,616 - She been always busy. 206 00:07:24,685 --> 00:07:27,308 She says she's got a lot of work to do, you know. 207 00:07:27,377 --> 00:07:31,485 We did have one video chat, but-- 208 00:07:31,554 --> 00:07:33,038 - Wait, let me guess. 209 00:07:33,107 --> 00:07:34,764 You couldn't see her face. - Right. 210 00:07:34,833 --> 00:07:36,870 - Ceiling. - What did you see? 211 00:07:36,939 --> 00:07:39,217 - Forehead, hair, and ceiling. 212 00:07:39,286 --> 00:07:42,047 - I mean, that's not a great sign that 213 00:07:42,116 --> 00:07:45,188 she didn't show you her whole face. 214 00:07:45,257 --> 00:07:47,087 Does she work? - She does work. 215 00:07:47,156 --> 00:07:48,364 She does accounting. 216 00:07:48,433 --> 00:07:49,952 - Does she ever talk about her job 217 00:07:50,021 --> 00:07:51,574 or like, the specifics of what she does? 218 00:07:51,643 --> 00:07:53,265 - Not really, no. 219 00:07:53,334 --> 00:07:57,615 - But you do know accountant has become a-- 220 00:07:57,684 --> 00:07:58,926 - Catch all? - Yes. 221 00:07:58,995 --> 00:08:00,031 - For what? 222 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:02,205 - Sex work. - Oh. 223 00:08:02,274 --> 00:08:04,656 - Girls on TikTok will be like, I'm an accountant, 224 00:08:04,725 --> 00:08:06,520 but it's really not-- 225 00:08:06,589 --> 00:08:07,797 - Wow - That. 226 00:08:07,866 --> 00:08:09,558 It's, like, a thing. - I didn't know about that. 227 00:08:09,627 --> 00:08:11,007 - [laughs] 228 00:08:11,076 --> 00:08:14,286 - So, has she ever asked you for anything? 229 00:08:14,355 --> 00:08:15,322 - No. 230 00:08:15,391 --> 00:08:17,082 - Has she ever sent you anything 231 00:08:17,151 --> 00:08:18,636 - Um, she has. 232 00:08:18,705 --> 00:08:20,120 - What, what? - Yeah. 233 00:08:20,189 --> 00:08:21,846 - How did that come up? 234 00:08:21,915 --> 00:08:23,399 - I had needed money for food. 235 00:08:23,468 --> 00:08:26,264 I wasn't working, you know, like I wanted to. 236 00:08:26,333 --> 00:08:28,818 So she Zelled me, like, 20 bucks. 237 00:08:28,887 --> 00:08:30,268 - Really? - Yeah. 238 00:08:30,337 --> 00:08:31,407 - Well, that's very nice. 239 00:08:31,476 --> 00:08:32,995 - That's still really nice. Huh. 240 00:08:33,064 --> 00:08:39,449 All right, let's let Kamie do a analysis on your text messages. 241 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:41,624 She'll be able to determine a lot just from-- 242 00:08:41,693 --> 00:08:43,453 - I'll tell you exactly-- - A quick glance. 243 00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:45,179 - What's going on. - Yeah. 244 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:47,596 - "Brownie Bby." 245 00:08:47,665 --> 00:08:50,702 - Oh, so that's her Snap, Brownie Bby. 246 00:08:50,771 --> 00:08:52,048 - Oh, wow. 247 00:08:52,117 --> 00:08:54,603 You guys talk a lot-- heart eyes, kissies. 248 00:08:54,672 --> 00:08:55,845 - Oh, my God. 249 00:08:55,914 --> 00:08:57,433 - Scroll, scroll, scroll. 250 00:08:57,502 --> 00:08:59,711 "I'll always appreciate you, soul mate." 251 00:08:59,780 --> 00:09:01,541 - She called you soul mate? 252 00:09:01,610 --> 00:09:03,853 - In May, you asked her, "What's your ring size?" 253 00:09:03,922 --> 00:09:05,165 - Uh, whoa. 254 00:09:05,234 --> 00:09:06,338 - Yeah. Yeah. 255 00:09:06,407 --> 00:09:08,686 - Damn. [laughter] 256 00:09:08,755 --> 00:09:11,102 - There's a lot of hearts, a lot of heart eyes. 257 00:09:11,171 --> 00:09:13,518 - Kissie faces, there-- you guys are clearly, 258 00:09:13,587 --> 00:09:15,589 like, a thing. 259 00:09:15,658 --> 00:09:17,522 - Yeah, we're a thing. 260 00:09:17,591 --> 00:09:19,006 - Is that her? 261 00:09:19,075 --> 00:09:20,352 - That's her. 262 00:09:20,421 --> 00:09:21,975 - Whoa, let me see. Very pretty. 263 00:09:22,044 --> 00:09:23,873 - She's very pretty, great skin, wow. 264 00:09:23,942 --> 00:09:25,703 - She's beautiful if that's her. 265 00:09:25,772 --> 00:09:27,532 - Here's some stuff about the move. 266 00:09:27,601 --> 00:09:30,190 You said to her, "Hey, I was talking with my mom yesterday, 267 00:09:30,259 --> 00:09:32,123 "and I'm thinking about moving back East. 268 00:09:32,192 --> 00:09:34,366 If I come back, I'd love to meet you in person." 269 00:09:34,435 --> 00:09:36,783 She said, "I'm not sure about meeting right now. 270 00:09:36,852 --> 00:09:39,579 "I do like how things are between us now, 271 00:09:39,648 --> 00:09:41,235 so let's just go with the flow." 272 00:09:41,304 --> 00:09:42,443 - Hmm. - And you said, 273 00:09:42,512 --> 00:09:44,169 "I feel you, but maybe we can 274 00:09:44,238 --> 00:09:45,515 video chat one of these days." 275 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:47,310 And she said, "Yeah, I understand, 276 00:09:47,379 --> 00:09:49,209 "but I'm not comfortable with video calls 277 00:09:49,278 --> 00:09:51,073 because I don't want to disappoint you." 278 00:09:51,142 --> 00:09:53,351 - Hmm. 279 00:09:53,420 --> 00:09:55,042 - You would think she would want to meet you. 280 00:09:55,111 --> 00:09:57,010 - Right. - Something's up. 281 00:09:57,079 --> 00:09:58,701 - Here's the $64,000 question. 282 00:09:58,770 --> 00:10:00,565 If she's not the girl in the pictures, 283 00:10:00,634 --> 00:10:04,224 do you think you'd still love her? 284 00:10:04,293 --> 00:10:05,535 - I don't know. 285 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:06,847 I don't know. 286 00:10:06,916 --> 00:10:08,504 - All right, well, look, send us all the info you have. 287 00:10:08,573 --> 00:10:10,610 We'll do some research, and then we can 288 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,163 figure out what to do from there. 289 00:10:12,232 --> 00:10:13,440 - Okay. - All right? 290 00:10:13,509 --> 00:10:14,544 - Yeah. 291 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:15,787 - Ooh. 292 00:10:15,856 --> 00:10:16,788 - Well, talk to you tomorrow, 293 00:10:16,857 --> 00:10:18,341 - Okay, bud, thanks. 294 00:10:18,410 --> 00:10:19,619 - See you tomorrow. 295 00:10:19,688 --> 00:10:20,965 - See you tomorrow. 296 00:10:21,034 --> 00:10:22,069 Thanks, guys. 297 00:10:22,138 --> 00:10:23,588 - Gracias. 298 00:10:24,727 --> 00:10:29,145 - Sebastian has had sort of a rough go of things. 299 00:10:29,214 --> 00:10:31,044 He was obviously hard up and out of money, 300 00:10:31,113 --> 00:10:32,562 but he met this girl. 301 00:10:32,632 --> 00:10:36,014 And she's been this super-solid, positive force 302 00:10:36,083 --> 00:10:37,533 in his life. 303 00:10:37,602 --> 00:10:40,225 And he's really hoping that this foundation 304 00:10:40,294 --> 00:10:42,745 that they've built can turn into 305 00:10:42,814 --> 00:10:44,644 the next chapter of his life. - Mm-hmm. 306 00:10:44,713 --> 00:10:46,749 - Obviously, there's a very real possibility 307 00:10:46,818 --> 00:10:50,201 that whoever he's talking to is not that girl. 308 00:10:50,270 --> 00:10:52,237 - Mm-hmm, something is off. 309 00:10:52,306 --> 00:10:54,964 - All of this, this whole last three years, 310 00:10:55,033 --> 00:10:58,312 could be built on a lie. 311 00:11:10,462 --> 00:11:13,638 - Oh, yeah, let's start this investigation. 312 00:11:13,707 --> 00:11:15,088 - Ooh. 313 00:11:15,157 --> 00:11:16,606 - All right, let's do it. 314 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:19,782 Sebastian and Allison, talking for three years. 315 00:11:19,851 --> 00:11:21,508 They lived, like, an hour away from each other, 316 00:11:21,577 --> 00:11:23,890 but they've never met. 317 00:11:23,959 --> 00:11:26,720 Then Sebastian has to move back to California, 318 00:11:26,789 --> 00:11:29,240 trying to find work as a DJ, having a hard go of it. 319 00:11:29,309 --> 00:11:30,586 But still, everything seems to be 320 00:11:30,655 --> 00:11:32,312 going in the right direction. 321 00:11:32,381 --> 00:11:33,831 They're texting. They're talking. 322 00:11:33,900 --> 00:11:36,074 Then all of a sudden, Sebastian says, hey, 323 00:11:36,143 --> 00:11:38,214 I'm kind of looking to make a move back East. 324 00:11:38,283 --> 00:11:41,183 Maybe we could, like, finally be together in person? 325 00:11:41,252 --> 00:11:43,219 And that's when Allison sort of-- 326 00:11:43,288 --> 00:11:45,152 - Pumped the brakes. - Pumps the brakes. 327 00:11:45,221 --> 00:11:46,947 Something is keeping Allison 328 00:11:47,016 --> 00:11:49,570 from fully investing in this relationship. 329 00:11:49,639 --> 00:11:50,537 Let's jump in. 330 00:11:50,606 --> 00:11:52,194 Maybe we can get some answers. 331 00:11:52,263 --> 00:11:53,643 Here's an email from Sebastian. 332 00:11:53,713 --> 00:11:55,956 "Hey, Nev and Kamie, here are all the things Allison 333 00:11:56,025 --> 00:11:57,337 "has told me about herself. 334 00:11:57,406 --> 00:11:59,753 "Her name is Allison Huberton, and she's 28. 335 00:11:59,822 --> 00:12:01,548 "She lives in Jacksonville, Florida, 336 00:12:01,617 --> 00:12:04,240 "but I believe she was originally from Mississippi. 337 00:12:04,309 --> 00:12:05,794 "When she sent me the money on Zelle, 338 00:12:05,863 --> 00:12:09,659 there wasn't a name on it, but it did say AH." 339 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:11,385 We've got a phone number. We've got an email. 340 00:12:11,454 --> 00:12:13,111 We've got three photos. 341 00:12:13,180 --> 00:12:14,941 - I think we should run the pictures. 342 00:12:15,010 --> 00:12:16,494 - All right. 343 00:12:16,563 --> 00:12:19,255 The pictures he attached are a little filtered, 344 00:12:19,324 --> 00:12:21,637 but we got some nice clean face pictures. 345 00:12:21,706 --> 00:12:24,295 If this girl is someone on the internet, 346 00:12:24,364 --> 00:12:25,710 we're gonna find her. 347 00:12:25,779 --> 00:12:27,125 Ooh, that her? 348 00:12:27,194 --> 00:12:29,369 - Hmm, I think no. 349 00:12:29,438 --> 00:12:30,370 - Let's try a different picture. 350 00:12:30,439 --> 00:12:32,441 [tense music] 351 00:12:32,510 --> 00:12:34,098 - That's her. - Wow, really? 352 00:12:34,167 --> 00:12:35,755 - That's her. It is. 353 00:12:37,411 --> 00:12:39,275 It's from a Pinterest account. 354 00:12:39,344 --> 00:12:41,243 There it is. - Oh, nice. 355 00:12:41,312 --> 00:12:42,623 That is definitely her, 356 00:12:42,692 --> 00:12:44,280 but there isn't a username or anything. 357 00:12:44,349 --> 00:12:46,351 Came off of someone else's Pinterest. 358 00:12:46,420 --> 00:12:47,870 There's got to be some source. 359 00:12:47,939 --> 00:12:49,285 - Mm-hmm. 360 00:12:49,354 --> 00:12:51,149 - But nothing is linking back to a profile. 361 00:12:51,218 --> 00:12:52,219 - Where is the girl? 362 00:12:52,288 --> 00:12:53,773 What is her name? 363 00:12:53,842 --> 00:12:56,189 - Right, let's just look up Allison Huberton. 364 00:12:56,258 --> 00:12:57,431 Let's go to Facebook. 365 00:12:57,500 --> 00:13:00,296 Hmm, let me see, Huberton. 366 00:13:00,365 --> 00:13:02,091 City, let's go Jacksonville, right? 367 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,437 - Mm-hmm. 368 00:13:04,645 --> 00:13:07,925 - All right, there's a girl worth looking at. 369 00:13:07,994 --> 00:13:09,340 Does that look like the girl in the pictures? 370 00:13:09,409 --> 00:13:10,686 - No. - Alison Huberton, 371 00:13:10,755 --> 00:13:12,274 lives in Jacksonville, Florida. 372 00:13:12,343 --> 00:13:14,138 - Two kids. - Two kids. 373 00:13:14,207 --> 00:13:16,865 This is someone we should keep our eye on, for sure. 374 00:13:16,934 --> 00:13:18,004 Who else? 375 00:13:18,073 --> 00:13:19,488 No. 376 00:13:19,557 --> 00:13:21,352 - No, that's the only Alison Huberton. 377 00:13:21,421 --> 00:13:22,974 - That's the only one. 378 00:13:23,043 --> 00:13:24,976 I mean, look, there's a lot of overlap with this girl. 379 00:13:25,045 --> 00:13:26,529 - Yeah. She's a suspect. 380 00:13:26,598 --> 00:13:28,393 - She's not the girl in the pictures, 381 00:13:28,462 --> 00:13:30,568 but her name is Alison Huberton. 382 00:13:30,637 --> 00:13:32,259 She lives in Jacksonville. She's Black. 383 00:13:32,328 --> 00:13:33,640 She has two kids. I mean-- 384 00:13:33,709 --> 00:13:34,675 - Prime suspect. 385 00:13:34,744 --> 00:13:35,987 - All right, let's run the number, 386 00:13:36,056 --> 00:13:38,127 see if we get anything. 387 00:13:38,196 --> 00:13:39,577 - Allison-- 388 00:13:39,646 --> 00:13:43,926 - Allison Huberton, 28, Jacksonville, Florida. 389 00:13:43,995 --> 00:13:45,134 I mean, that's wild. 390 00:13:45,203 --> 00:13:46,826 - That never happens. - That never happens. 391 00:13:46,895 --> 00:13:48,655 That's all the info. - It's her. 392 00:13:48,724 --> 00:13:49,829 That's her name. 393 00:13:49,898 --> 00:13:51,831 - But is she the girl on Facebook or no? 394 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:53,142 - Well, we don't know. 395 00:13:53,211 --> 00:13:54,626 But what's this? 396 00:13:54,695 --> 00:13:56,628 Ooh, it says multiple Spokeo reports were found. 397 00:13:56,697 --> 00:13:57,767 - Hmm. 398 00:13:57,837 --> 00:13:59,769 - Wow, what comes up if we click on this? 399 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:01,185 Twigley. 400 00:14:01,254 --> 00:14:03,290 - Allison Twigley, 60 years old, 401 00:14:03,359 --> 00:14:05,396 also known as Allison Huberton. 402 00:14:05,465 --> 00:14:08,640 - Oh, lived in Mississippi. 403 00:14:08,709 --> 00:14:09,710 - Oh. 404 00:14:09,779 --> 00:14:11,229 - Didn't he say something about Missis-- 405 00:14:11,298 --> 00:14:13,749 oh, yeah, " I believe she was originally from Mississippi." 406 00:14:13,818 --> 00:14:15,337 - Oh, shit. - Now, wait a second. 407 00:14:15,406 --> 00:14:17,063 - 60 years old. 408 00:14:17,132 --> 00:14:19,997 - Weirdly, we run a number, there's another person 409 00:14:20,066 --> 00:14:22,206 who's sort of connected to it who has 410 00:14:22,275 --> 00:14:24,208 gone by Allison Huberton from Mississippi, 411 00:14:24,277 --> 00:14:27,694 which is where he says Allison is from, but is 60. 412 00:14:27,763 --> 00:14:29,213 - And now lives in Jacksonville. 413 00:14:29,282 --> 00:14:31,180 - I mean, look, if she's not the girl in the pictures, 414 00:14:31,249 --> 00:14:32,526 that's one thing. - Mm-hmm. 415 00:14:32,595 --> 00:14:34,701 - If she's 30 years older than she's saying, 416 00:14:34,770 --> 00:14:37,186 that's a whole nother thing. 417 00:14:37,255 --> 00:14:40,224 - Should we run it on Cash App, the phone number? 418 00:14:40,293 --> 00:14:41,604 - Good idea. 419 00:14:41,673 --> 00:14:43,883 - All right, let's see. 904-- 420 00:14:43,952 --> 00:14:45,332 oh, look at this. 421 00:14:45,401 --> 00:14:46,609 Allison Huberton. 422 00:14:46,678 --> 00:14:48,197 She's been on here since 2021. 423 00:14:48,266 --> 00:14:49,543 I mean, this is her. 424 00:14:49,612 --> 00:14:51,476 She's not lying about her name. 425 00:14:51,545 --> 00:14:52,857 All right, now, I'm just curious. 426 00:14:52,926 --> 00:14:54,859 We don't often have people's email. 427 00:14:54,928 --> 00:14:57,724 Let's just see if the email is connected to the same account. 428 00:14:57,793 --> 00:14:59,070 - Hmm. 429 00:14:59,139 --> 00:15:00,554 - Oh, what is this? 430 00:15:00,623 --> 00:15:04,696 So the email comes back to Alicia Harlow, AH. 431 00:15:04,765 --> 00:15:07,389 - [sighs] You know, never a dull moment. 432 00:15:07,458 --> 00:15:08,873 - I don't understand. 433 00:15:08,942 --> 00:15:11,841 So her phone number comes back to Allison Huberton. 434 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:14,430 Her email comes back to a different Cash App 435 00:15:14,499 --> 00:15:16,122 called Alicia Harlow. 436 00:15:16,191 --> 00:15:20,091 Now, maybe she just has like, a second Cash App 437 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,231 for, like, some, you know-- 438 00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:24,199 - Other stuff. - [gasps] 439 00:15:24,268 --> 00:15:26,028 - What? - Her accounting. 440 00:15:26,097 --> 00:15:27,374 - [gasps] 441 00:15:27,443 --> 00:15:29,445 [laughs] 442 00:15:29,514 --> 00:15:31,102 I said it. 443 00:15:31,171 --> 00:15:32,414 Oh, boy. 444 00:15:32,483 --> 00:15:34,899 - Okay, so who is Alicia Harlow? 445 00:15:34,968 --> 00:15:37,108 See if there's a Facebook in Jacksonville for her. 446 00:15:37,177 --> 00:15:38,385 - Hmm. 447 00:15:38,454 --> 00:15:40,180 - No results. - Hmm. 448 00:15:40,249 --> 00:15:41,492 - I'm really torn here. 449 00:15:41,561 --> 00:15:43,666 Part of me is feeling good. 450 00:15:43,735 --> 00:15:45,323 I mean, it looks like he is talking 451 00:15:45,392 --> 00:15:47,808 to someone named Allison who lives in Jacksonville, but-- 452 00:15:47,877 --> 00:15:49,638 - Why say that you don't want him to be 453 00:15:49,707 --> 00:15:51,605 disappointed when he sees you? 454 00:15:51,674 --> 00:15:53,676 Disappointed because you're much older than he thinks 455 00:15:53,745 --> 00:15:55,264 that you are or disappointed because you 456 00:15:55,333 --> 00:15:57,266 don't look anything like what he thinks you look like? 457 00:15:57,335 --> 00:15:59,441 - Or disappointed because you don't want him to know 458 00:15:59,510 --> 00:16:01,201 that you're a sex worker? 459 00:16:01,270 --> 00:16:02,892 It's hard to say. - Yeah. 460 00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:04,860 - Either most of what she's told him 461 00:16:04,929 --> 00:16:07,759 is the truth or everything she's told him is a lie. 462 00:16:07,828 --> 00:16:10,107 But we got to go figure this out, so come on. 463 00:16:10,176 --> 00:16:11,073 - I'm nervous. 464 00:16:14,801 --> 00:16:17,597 - I'm worried Sebastian is going to interpret 465 00:16:17,666 --> 00:16:20,048 our discoveries as good news. 466 00:16:20,117 --> 00:16:21,118 - Yes. 467 00:16:21,187 --> 00:16:22,843 - I mean, phone number matches her name, 468 00:16:22,912 --> 00:16:25,053 but she clearly doesn't want to FaceTime. 469 00:16:25,122 --> 00:16:27,641 I think we have to assume she doesn't look 470 00:16:27,710 --> 00:16:29,022 like the girl in the pictures. 471 00:16:29,091 --> 00:16:31,128 - Then there was the name search that came back 472 00:16:31,197 --> 00:16:33,061 to that 60-year-old woman. 473 00:16:33,130 --> 00:16:34,648 - I know. 474 00:16:34,717 --> 00:16:37,582 [tense music] 475 00:16:37,651 --> 00:16:40,516 ♪ ♪ 476 00:16:40,585 --> 00:16:41,828 [knocking on door] 477 00:16:41,897 --> 00:16:43,485 - Hey. - Hey, guys. 478 00:16:43,554 --> 00:16:44,934 - Good to see you. 479 00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:46,626 - Come on in. 480 00:16:47,868 --> 00:16:50,492 - How are you feeling about everything? 481 00:16:50,561 --> 00:16:52,632 - Well, you know, I'm still really nervous. 482 00:16:52,701 --> 00:16:54,772 A lot of emotions going through my head. 483 00:16:54,841 --> 00:16:57,050 - Obviously, the big mystery here is, 484 00:16:57,119 --> 00:16:59,915 is there something about Allison that you don't know 485 00:16:59,984 --> 00:17:02,228 or that she's been concealing? 486 00:17:02,297 --> 00:17:04,609 So let us show you what we did. 487 00:17:04,678 --> 00:17:05,955 The first thing that we searched 488 00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:07,336 was the three photos that you sent us. 489 00:17:07,405 --> 00:17:08,717 - Mm-hmm. 490 00:17:08,786 --> 00:17:10,098 - Interestingly, when we searched this picture, 491 00:17:10,167 --> 00:17:13,860 we got some hits, one of which is clearly her. 492 00:17:13,929 --> 00:17:15,172 - Yeah. 493 00:17:15,241 --> 00:17:18,244 - We followed this pic to a Pinterest account. 494 00:17:18,313 --> 00:17:21,109 Unfortunately, we couldn't track down the original source. 495 00:17:21,178 --> 00:17:24,836 But typically, if you find someone on a Pinterest board, 496 00:17:24,905 --> 00:17:27,874 it suggests that that photo has been on the internet 497 00:17:27,943 --> 00:17:30,980 and sort of seen and searched by people. 498 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:31,878 - Uh-huh. 499 00:17:31,947 --> 00:17:33,224 - So then we sort of pivoted. 500 00:17:33,293 --> 00:17:36,193 We did a Facebook search for the name she told you, 501 00:17:36,262 --> 00:17:37,884 Allison Huberton. 502 00:17:37,953 --> 00:17:40,024 And then we narrowed it down to Jacksonville, Florida. 503 00:17:40,093 --> 00:17:41,577 And we did get a hit for someone 504 00:17:41,646 --> 00:17:43,200 named Alison Huberton, 505 00:17:43,269 --> 00:17:45,305 not the girl you think you're talking to. 506 00:17:45,374 --> 00:17:48,964 She's the only match in Jacksonville with that name. 507 00:17:49,033 --> 00:17:52,761 And this woman also has two young children. 508 00:17:52,830 --> 00:17:55,074 Do you remember when you saw her, her forehead? 509 00:17:55,143 --> 00:17:56,075 Could that be her? 510 00:17:56,144 --> 00:17:58,560 - No, not her. 511 00:17:58,629 --> 00:18:00,251 - Are you sure? 512 00:18:01,977 --> 00:18:03,185 - Um... 513 00:18:03,254 --> 00:18:04,738 - Okay. 514 00:18:04,807 --> 00:18:07,879 So then moving on, we took her phone number, 515 00:18:07,948 --> 00:18:09,674 and we did a phone reverse search. 516 00:18:09,743 --> 00:18:11,538 When we did that, look what comes up-- 517 00:18:11,607 --> 00:18:13,609 Allison Huberton, 28. 518 00:18:13,678 --> 00:18:15,197 Everything she's told you. 519 00:18:15,266 --> 00:18:16,405 - Right. 520 00:18:16,474 --> 00:18:17,924 Now for us, this is a big deal. 521 00:18:17,993 --> 00:18:20,409 Because very rarely, when we search a phone number, 522 00:18:20,478 --> 00:18:22,998 does it actually come back with the person's name 523 00:18:23,067 --> 00:18:25,311 with the right age, the right city. 524 00:18:25,380 --> 00:18:26,933 It almost never happens. 525 00:18:27,002 --> 00:18:29,384 But there's also, interestingly, 526 00:18:29,453 --> 00:18:31,179 more information. 527 00:18:31,248 --> 00:18:33,595 It says multiple Spokeo reports were found. 528 00:18:33,664 --> 00:18:35,010 And one of the other results it brings back 529 00:18:35,079 --> 00:18:39,463 is Allison Twigley in Jacksonville, Florida. 530 00:18:39,532 --> 00:18:41,913 - Also known as Allison Huberton. 531 00:18:41,982 --> 00:18:43,846 - Right, and what's interesting about this one, 532 00:18:43,915 --> 00:18:47,471 is that this one shows that she's lived in Mississippi. 533 00:18:47,540 --> 00:18:49,473 - Okay, she's talked about Mississippi 534 00:18:49,542 --> 00:18:51,440 before, that she's from there. 535 00:18:51,509 --> 00:18:52,752 - Right. 536 00:18:52,821 --> 00:18:55,099 - But do you see the age? 537 00:18:55,168 --> 00:18:56,859 - 60? 538 00:18:56,928 --> 00:18:59,621 That's 30 years older than I am. 539 00:18:59,690 --> 00:19:03,176 I mean, jeez. 540 00:19:03,245 --> 00:19:05,454 That's connected to the phone number? 541 00:19:05,523 --> 00:19:07,146 - Yes. 542 00:19:07,215 --> 00:19:08,733 - Now, the other thing that I haven't shown you yet 543 00:19:08,802 --> 00:19:10,252 is Cash App. 544 00:19:10,321 --> 00:19:12,358 When we put her phone number into Cash App, 545 00:19:12,427 --> 00:19:14,360 it comes back Allison Huberton. 546 00:19:14,429 --> 00:19:15,809 - Yeah. 547 00:19:15,878 --> 00:19:18,881 - But when we put in the email that she sent you, 548 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:21,194 look what comes up. 549 00:19:21,263 --> 00:19:22,816 - Alicia Harlow. 550 00:19:22,885 --> 00:19:24,301 I don't know who it is. 551 00:19:24,370 --> 00:19:27,131 - There is a Cash App with that email 552 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,134 for someone named Alicia Harlow, AH. 553 00:19:30,203 --> 00:19:34,276 Why does she have this account linked to her email? 554 00:19:34,345 --> 00:19:35,795 - No clue. 555 00:19:35,864 --> 00:19:38,384 - Well, yesterday, when you told us 556 00:19:38,453 --> 00:19:42,008 that she was an accountant, Kamie educated both of us that 557 00:19:42,077 --> 00:19:45,184 some sex workers refer to themselves as accountants. 558 00:19:45,253 --> 00:19:48,117 And perhaps she has a separate Cash App 559 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:54,469 that she uses to bill for her "accounting," possible? 560 00:19:54,538 --> 00:19:56,850 - Possible, yes. 561 00:19:56,919 --> 00:19:59,128 - We searched for Alicia Harlow, Jacksonville. 562 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:00,647 We did all the different types of searches we could find, 563 00:20:00,716 --> 00:20:02,684 and there were no hits. 564 00:20:02,753 --> 00:20:07,067 So we were kind of left with this strange, dual sensation, 565 00:20:07,136 --> 00:20:09,277 which is her phone number checks out. 566 00:20:09,346 --> 00:20:10,692 - Mm-hmm. 567 00:20:10,761 --> 00:20:13,004 - But if she were the girl in those photos, 568 00:20:13,073 --> 00:20:15,628 why can't she FaceTime you? 569 00:20:15,697 --> 00:20:17,181 - Right. 570 00:20:17,250 --> 00:20:18,976 - The only explanation that we can come up with 571 00:20:19,045 --> 00:20:21,841 is that she's not the girl in the pictures. 572 00:20:21,910 --> 00:20:23,774 Could be this girl. 573 00:20:23,843 --> 00:20:26,363 She's got kids, so that's a possible match. 574 00:20:26,432 --> 00:20:28,399 But considering everything else we found, 575 00:20:28,468 --> 00:20:32,161 it is concerning that Allison Twigley, who's 60, 576 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:34,854 comes back as connected to her phone number, 577 00:20:34,923 --> 00:20:38,029 who shares some locations with the story 578 00:20:38,098 --> 00:20:39,617 you've heard from Allison. 579 00:20:39,686 --> 00:20:41,688 [somber music] 580 00:20:41,757 --> 00:20:43,897 - What are you thinking? 581 00:20:43,966 --> 00:20:47,729 - I--I don't know what to think now. 582 00:20:47,798 --> 00:20:49,903 She didn't sound 60. 583 00:20:51,491 --> 00:20:53,182 But--[sighs] 584 00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:55,012 Shit. 585 00:20:55,081 --> 00:20:57,290 - ♪ Tripping over time on the horizon ♪ 586 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,361 ♪ Heaven only knows - I don't know. 587 00:20:59,430 --> 00:21:01,363 - ♪ Exactly where my mind's been ♪ 588 00:21:01,432 --> 00:21:02,744 - Can we take a break? 589 00:21:02,813 --> 00:21:04,055 - Oh, okay. 590 00:21:06,092 --> 00:21:08,474 - ♪ Where you going these days? ♪ 591 00:21:08,543 --> 00:21:10,096 ♪ ♪ 592 00:21:10,165 --> 00:21:12,685 ♪ I thought that we could take it slow ♪ 593 00:21:12,754 --> 00:21:14,134 - I don't think he's okay. 594 00:21:14,203 --> 00:21:15,791 - ♪ I put you out and let you go ♪ 595 00:21:15,860 --> 00:21:18,000 - I mean, he looked like he was about to cry a little bit. 596 00:21:18,069 --> 00:21:19,692 - ♪ Truth is I don't know ♪ 597 00:21:19,761 --> 00:21:21,383 - ♪ Where to go ♪ 598 00:21:21,452 --> 00:21:22,729 ♪ So I'll stay ♪ 599 00:21:22,798 --> 00:21:25,525 - Might just be taking a minute. 600 00:21:25,594 --> 00:21:27,216 - He's definitely not okay. 601 00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:29,218 - ♪ The noises in my head were loud ♪ 602 00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:30,979 - [sighs] 603 00:21:33,671 --> 00:21:35,052 - ♪ Where to go ♪ 604 00:21:37,088 --> 00:21:39,574 - I don't think he's okay. 605 00:21:39,643 --> 00:21:40,954 - I'll go talk to him. 606 00:21:41,023 --> 00:21:43,750 [tense music] 607 00:21:43,819 --> 00:21:48,755 ♪ ♪ 608 00:21:48,824 --> 00:21:51,655 Hey, man, you all right? 609 00:21:51,724 --> 00:21:54,899 - Oh, man, I'm just confused. 610 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:58,040 I just don't-- 611 00:21:59,352 --> 00:22:03,252 I don't know what to believe right now. 612 00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:06,083 - I feel like, at this point, the only option we have 613 00:22:06,152 --> 00:22:09,155 is to just call her and just say, hey, 614 00:22:09,224 --> 00:22:10,812 Sebastian wants to meet you. 615 00:22:10,881 --> 00:22:12,227 Are you down? 616 00:22:12,296 --> 00:22:14,850 Hopefully, she realizes this is probably 617 00:22:14,919 --> 00:22:18,164 her best opportunity to do that. 618 00:22:18,233 --> 00:22:19,752 - Okay. - All right. 619 00:22:19,821 --> 00:22:21,547 Let's do it. 620 00:22:21,616 --> 00:22:24,170 ♪ ♪ 621 00:22:26,690 --> 00:22:27,863 - How you feeling? 622 00:22:27,932 --> 00:22:29,693 [somber music] 623 00:22:29,762 --> 00:22:32,109 - A lot of emotions. 624 00:22:32,178 --> 00:22:35,008 - Is there a world where, if she has lied 625 00:22:35,077 --> 00:22:37,045 about what she looks like, the connection that you've 626 00:22:37,114 --> 00:22:40,600 built with her is strong enough to withstand the lies? 627 00:22:40,669 --> 00:22:42,499 - I don't know. 628 00:22:42,568 --> 00:22:44,121 I don't know. 629 00:22:45,122 --> 00:22:47,676 - And that's fair too. 630 00:22:47,745 --> 00:22:51,231 - All right, well, I think we got to forge ahead. 631 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:54,683 I mean, the only person who can answer your questions is her. 632 00:22:54,752 --> 00:22:56,167 Is it cool if I give her a call? 633 00:22:56,236 --> 00:22:57,272 - Yeah. 634 00:22:57,341 --> 00:22:58,756 - All right. Let's see what happens. 635 00:22:58,825 --> 00:23:00,413 [line trilling] 636 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,868 - Hello, this is Nev from "Catfish: The TV Show." 637 00:23:06,937 --> 00:23:08,387 - Oh, sure. 638 00:23:12,321 --> 00:23:13,288 - Yeah, hi. 639 00:23:14,634 --> 00:23:16,395 - Oh. 640 00:23:16,464 --> 00:23:18,466 - [mouthing words] - Ah, okay. 641 00:23:18,535 --> 00:23:22,711 Well, Allison has been talking to a guy named Sebastian 642 00:23:22,780 --> 00:23:24,368 now for the past three years. 643 00:23:24,437 --> 00:23:28,337 Sebastian was hoping to meet Allison. 644 00:23:29,615 --> 00:23:30,995 - Okay. 645 00:23:31,064 --> 00:23:32,963 - What the fuck is all this "hold on" shit? 646 00:23:33,032 --> 00:23:34,585 - Is that the voice that you've been hearing? 647 00:23:34,654 --> 00:23:36,138 - That was a different voice. 648 00:23:36,207 --> 00:23:37,692 - Okay, so that wasn't Allison's voice, 649 00:23:37,761 --> 00:23:39,418 as far as you can tell. 650 00:23:40,591 --> 00:23:41,523 - Hi. 651 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,700 - Okay, I'm not here to make her do anything 652 00:23:45,769 --> 00:23:47,149 she doesn't want to do. 653 00:23:47,218 --> 00:23:48,530 I just want to make sure she understands that 654 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:52,120 I am here to help her finally meet Sebastian. 655 00:23:52,189 --> 00:23:54,260 Just so I know, you guys are in Florida, 656 00:23:54,329 --> 00:23:56,227 right, in Jacksonville? 657 00:24:01,025 --> 00:24:02,199 - Okay. 658 00:24:02,268 --> 00:24:04,650 - Dude, what the fuck? 659 00:24:04,719 --> 00:24:05,996 - So they're not in Jacksonville. 660 00:24:06,065 --> 00:24:07,100 - Yes, they are. 661 00:24:07,169 --> 00:24:08,550 - Well, that was-- 662 00:24:08,619 --> 00:24:09,931 - Whoever that is, is on speakerphone with whoever 663 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,311 the real Allison is. 664 00:24:11,380 --> 00:24:12,623 And you're asking the questions, 665 00:24:12,692 --> 00:24:13,831 and they're in the background, like-- 666 00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:15,523 - Right, right. 667 00:24:15,592 --> 00:24:17,732 Jeez, that was-- 668 00:24:17,801 --> 00:24:19,112 - What are you thinking? 669 00:24:19,181 --> 00:24:21,563 [suspenseful music] 670 00:24:21,632 --> 00:24:22,633 - All right, hold on. 671 00:24:22,702 --> 00:24:23,876 So let's text now. 672 00:24:23,945 --> 00:24:26,672 Hey, just following up. 673 00:24:26,741 --> 00:24:29,157 It feels pretty disrespectful to Sebastian 674 00:24:29,226 --> 00:24:31,262 to not get on the phone and speak for yourself. 675 00:24:31,331 --> 00:24:32,643 Please get back to me when you're ready 676 00:24:32,712 --> 00:24:34,783 to take some accountability for the situation. 677 00:24:34,852 --> 00:24:36,026 - Exactly. 678 00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:38,787 - Hmm. 679 00:24:38,856 --> 00:24:40,064 - That was very strange. 680 00:24:40,133 --> 00:24:42,101 - That's just super weird. 681 00:24:43,827 --> 00:24:45,069 [phone chimes] 682 00:24:45,138 --> 00:24:48,003 - Oh, she said, "Hey, sorry that my friend 683 00:24:48,072 --> 00:24:51,662 was a little aggressive, but she was trying to protect me." 684 00:24:51,731 --> 00:24:57,357 Are you willing to meet up with us tomorrow? 685 00:24:59,394 --> 00:25:02,017 "Yes, but he can't come here." 686 00:25:02,086 --> 00:25:03,191 Okay. 687 00:25:03,260 --> 00:25:04,779 - Can't come here? 688 00:25:04,848 --> 00:25:08,161 Something is keeping her from wanting you in Jacksonville. 689 00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:12,269 - Would you be able to come here? 690 00:25:12,338 --> 00:25:13,822 - To LA. She doesn't know where we are 691 00:25:13,891 --> 00:25:15,065 - To LA. 692 00:25:15,134 --> 00:25:16,618 [phone swooshes] 693 00:25:16,687 --> 00:25:17,895 "Yeah, I can." 694 00:25:17,964 --> 00:25:19,310 - Okay. 695 00:25:19,379 --> 00:25:23,936 Okay, great. I will have a producer 696 00:25:24,005 --> 00:25:28,250 contact you to see you tomorrow. 697 00:25:28,319 --> 00:25:32,220 All right, well, I have no idea what just happened, 698 00:25:32,289 --> 00:25:35,948 but someone, maybe, is coming here tomorrow. 699 00:25:36,017 --> 00:25:37,294 You all right? 700 00:25:37,363 --> 00:25:40,228 - Yeah, I'm okay. Just confusing. 701 00:25:40,297 --> 00:25:41,678 - In the morning, we'll reconnect, 702 00:25:41,747 --> 00:25:43,783 and we'll let you know what the plan is, 703 00:25:43,852 --> 00:25:44,922 - Okay. 704 00:25:44,991 --> 00:25:46,475 - Okay. 705 00:25:47,994 --> 00:25:49,513 That was crazy. 706 00:25:49,582 --> 00:25:50,756 - Bye. 707 00:25:50,825 --> 00:25:52,585 - Hang in there. - Bye. 708 00:25:52,654 --> 00:25:54,345 [tense music] 709 00:25:54,414 --> 00:25:56,382 - Poor thing. He was shook. 710 00:25:56,451 --> 00:25:57,694 - Literally, he was shaking. 711 00:25:57,763 --> 00:25:59,178 - Yeah, he was shaking. 712 00:25:59,247 --> 00:26:00,662 - At least we don't think we're dealing with a 60-year-old. 713 00:26:00,731 --> 00:26:02,250 - No. 714 00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:05,978 - Despite what just happened, I'm somewhat hopeful that 715 00:26:06,047 --> 00:26:09,188 we will get answers tomorrow. 716 00:26:10,189 --> 00:26:12,156 ♪ ♪ 717 00:26:12,225 --> 00:26:14,331 [line trilling] - Hello? 718 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,091 - Yo, Sebastian, we just got a text. 719 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,576 She's landed. 720 00:26:17,645 --> 00:26:19,681 I told her to meet us at Chatsworth Park. 721 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:22,891 We'll come scoop you, and then we'll head over there. 722 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,617 - See you in a little bit. 723 00:26:24,686 --> 00:26:27,137 [phone chimes] Oh, what was that? 724 00:26:27,206 --> 00:26:28,656 What's that? We got a text. 725 00:26:28,725 --> 00:26:30,485 - She said, "I'm 30 minutes away from the park. 726 00:26:30,554 --> 00:26:31,935 See you soon." 727 00:26:32,004 --> 00:26:33,177 - Uh-huh, all right. 728 00:26:33,246 --> 00:26:34,765 There he is. 729 00:26:34,834 --> 00:26:37,112 - Hello. 730 00:26:37,181 --> 00:26:39,080 How are you feeling? - Feeling good. 731 00:26:39,149 --> 00:26:40,426 - So we just got another text. 732 00:26:40,495 --> 00:26:42,566 She said, "I'll see you soon." 733 00:26:44,672 --> 00:26:45,811 I'm shaking. 734 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,951 My hands are sweaty. 735 00:26:48,020 --> 00:26:49,780 - We're here to help you. 736 00:26:49,849 --> 00:26:52,714 [tense music] 737 00:26:52,783 --> 00:26:56,062 ♪ ♪ 738 00:26:56,131 --> 00:26:58,617 - Okay, this is the park. 739 00:27:00,757 --> 00:27:02,897 - Now we've got to find this girl. 740 00:27:02,966 --> 00:27:05,175 - We don't even know who we're looking for. 741 00:27:06,832 --> 00:27:09,110 - Well, nothing to it. 742 00:27:10,007 --> 00:27:11,388 - Let's do it. 743 00:27:13,183 --> 00:27:14,287 - All right. 744 00:27:14,356 --> 00:27:17,256 [dramatic music] 745 00:27:17,325 --> 00:27:18,637 ♪ ♪ 746 00:27:18,706 --> 00:27:20,293 - This is weird. 747 00:27:20,362 --> 00:27:21,950 - Are you feeling okay? 748 00:27:22,019 --> 00:27:24,332 - Yeah, a little nervous. 749 00:27:25,471 --> 00:27:27,542 - Oh, wait a second. 750 00:27:27,611 --> 00:27:30,821 I see someone back here under the trees. 751 00:27:30,890 --> 00:27:33,030 - Somebody-- somebody's right there. 752 00:27:33,099 --> 00:27:34,204 - That's got to be her, right? 753 00:27:34,273 --> 00:27:35,688 - It's got to be. 754 00:27:35,757 --> 00:27:38,104 - Can't really see. 755 00:27:38,173 --> 00:27:39,658 - Hello. 756 00:27:40,935 --> 00:27:41,867 Hello. 757 00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:47,217 - I see someone back here under the trees. 758 00:27:47,286 --> 00:27:49,150 [tense music] 759 00:27:49,219 --> 00:27:50,634 That's gotta be her, right? 760 00:27:50,703 --> 00:27:52,256 - It's got to be. 761 00:27:52,325 --> 00:27:54,914 - Can't really see. 762 00:27:54,983 --> 00:27:56,295 - Hello. 763 00:27:56,364 --> 00:28:03,474 ♪ ♪ 764 00:28:08,514 --> 00:28:10,274 - [quietly] It's her. - Yeah. 765 00:28:11,966 --> 00:28:13,036 - Hi. 766 00:28:13,105 --> 00:28:14,520 - Hi. 767 00:28:16,211 --> 00:28:17,765 - How are you? - I'm good. 768 00:28:17,834 --> 00:28:19,283 How are you? 769 00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:26,497 - I've got a lot of questions. 770 00:28:26,566 --> 00:28:28,776 - A lot of questions? 771 00:28:28,845 --> 00:28:30,294 - Kamie. 772 00:28:37,612 --> 00:28:38,820 - Hi. 773 00:28:38,889 --> 00:28:40,097 - Hey. 774 00:28:40,166 --> 00:28:43,342 - We're just a little stunned-- 775 00:28:43,411 --> 00:28:45,275 - [chuckles] - Gagged, even. 776 00:28:45,344 --> 00:28:46,517 I'm Kamie. 777 00:28:46,586 --> 00:28:48,140 - Hi, Kamie, I'm Allison. 778 00:28:48,209 --> 00:28:49,969 - Nice to meet you. 779 00:28:50,038 --> 00:28:51,315 - Hi. - Hi. 780 00:28:51,384 --> 00:28:53,110 - Nev, nice to meet you. 781 00:28:53,179 --> 00:28:54,146 - Nice to meet you. - Allison? 782 00:28:54,215 --> 00:28:55,112 - Yeah. - Yeah. 783 00:28:55,181 --> 00:28:56,838 - Yeah. 784 00:28:56,907 --> 00:28:58,495 - Well, don't--you know-- 785 00:28:58,564 --> 00:29:01,187 so, here, you can-- 786 00:29:01,256 --> 00:29:03,051 you can lead the charge. 787 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,951 - Yeah, it's all you, bro. 788 00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:07,746 - Oh, wow. 789 00:29:09,368 --> 00:29:12,129 It's been three years. 790 00:29:12,198 --> 00:29:13,959 - Yeah. 791 00:29:14,028 --> 00:29:16,064 - Why haven't we chatted? 792 00:29:16,133 --> 00:29:17,928 Why haven't we video chatted? 793 00:29:17,997 --> 00:29:20,379 - My own insecurities. 794 00:29:20,448 --> 00:29:24,417 That's why I use filters, or, you know. 795 00:29:24,486 --> 00:29:26,488 - I don't see why you'd be insecure. 796 00:29:26,557 --> 00:29:30,009 I mean, you're very beautiful. 797 00:29:30,078 --> 00:29:31,873 - Thank you. 798 00:29:31,942 --> 00:29:36,153 - So yesterday, why didn't you want to talk to me? 799 00:29:36,222 --> 00:29:38,673 Why didn't--why didn't, like-- 800 00:29:38,742 --> 00:29:40,951 - Yeah, yesterday, when you called, 801 00:29:41,020 --> 00:29:44,886 I was in the middle of getting my nails done with my friend, 802 00:29:44,955 --> 00:29:46,577 and she answered. 803 00:29:46,646 --> 00:29:51,237 And neither one of us was understanding, like, 804 00:29:51,306 --> 00:29:53,688 just in the midst of it, that's all. 805 00:29:55,069 --> 00:29:58,313 - When you said that you would disappoint me, 806 00:29:58,382 --> 00:30:00,764 what did you mean by that? I mean-- 807 00:30:00,833 --> 00:30:03,422 - Because I don't feel like I look like what filters 808 00:30:03,491 --> 00:30:05,182 present me to look like. 809 00:30:05,251 --> 00:30:06,908 - What filters? 810 00:30:06,977 --> 00:30:11,602 I mean, like, you look exactly like the pictures you sent him. 811 00:30:11,671 --> 00:30:14,157 - I would say you're more beautiful in person 812 00:30:14,226 --> 00:30:15,365 than those filters. 813 00:30:15,434 --> 00:30:16,573 Your skin is perfect. 814 00:30:16,642 --> 00:30:18,506 Like, you're-- you're beautiful. 815 00:30:18,575 --> 00:30:20,059 You look exactly the same. 816 00:30:20,128 --> 00:30:21,612 - Oh. 817 00:30:23,028 --> 00:30:25,168 - So do you have two children like you said? 818 00:30:25,237 --> 00:30:26,307 - Mm-hmm. 819 00:30:26,376 --> 00:30:27,722 - And do you live in Jacksonville? 820 00:30:27,791 --> 00:30:29,655 - Yeah. - Are you an accountant? 821 00:30:29,724 --> 00:30:30,656 - Yeah. 822 00:30:30,725 --> 00:30:32,175 - What kind of accountant? 823 00:30:32,244 --> 00:30:34,694 - [laughs] Just bookkeeping. 824 00:30:34,763 --> 00:30:35,868 - Okay. 825 00:30:35,937 --> 00:30:37,905 - For real accountant, real accountant. 826 00:30:37,974 --> 00:30:40,769 We thought it might be code for something else. 827 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:44,014 - So you've been talking for long enough 828 00:30:44,083 --> 00:30:46,465 that, clearly, there seems to be a real connection 829 00:30:46,534 --> 00:30:47,984 and interest. 830 00:30:48,053 --> 00:30:52,298 So presumably, eventually you would meet, right? 831 00:30:52,367 --> 00:30:53,955 - Yeah. 832 00:30:54,024 --> 00:30:57,441 - But you told Sebastian, like, when he mentioned that 833 00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:59,616 he wants to move back East, 834 00:30:59,685 --> 00:31:01,411 you kind of pumped the brakes on him. 835 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,653 And you were like, I like the way 836 00:31:02,722 --> 00:31:04,172 that our relationship is now. 837 00:31:04,241 --> 00:31:05,415 I don't want to change it. 838 00:31:05,484 --> 00:31:07,175 Is that how you feel? 839 00:31:07,244 --> 00:31:10,316 [tense music] 840 00:31:10,385 --> 00:31:12,249 - I do like how it is. 841 00:31:12,318 --> 00:31:14,631 I do like the emotional support. 842 00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:18,393 He's always been a very good friend to me. 843 00:31:19,808 --> 00:31:22,673 - Do you really feel like he's just your friend? 844 00:31:22,742 --> 00:31:24,986 - I mean, what else would it be, though? 845 00:31:26,850 --> 00:31:29,301 - I mean, we've looked at a little bit 846 00:31:29,370 --> 00:31:30,750 of your conversations-- - Yeah. 847 00:31:30,819 --> 00:31:33,236 - On Snapchat, and it does-- 848 00:31:33,305 --> 00:31:35,410 - I think that the emotional connection is there. 849 00:31:35,479 --> 00:31:36,929 I do care for him. 850 00:31:36,998 --> 00:31:39,414 - You said that I was your soul mate. 851 00:31:39,483 --> 00:31:41,416 - I'm just not sure if-- 852 00:31:41,485 --> 00:31:44,799 ♪ ♪ 853 00:31:44,868 --> 00:31:46,352 I don't know. 854 00:31:48,044 --> 00:31:49,908 Ooh. 855 00:31:49,977 --> 00:31:51,392 Can I talk to Kamie? 856 00:31:51,461 --> 00:31:52,876 - Sure. 857 00:31:52,945 --> 00:31:55,396 Sebastian, should we give them a little bit of space 858 00:31:55,465 --> 00:31:56,673 to chat, I guess? 859 00:31:56,742 --> 00:31:58,261 - Yeah, that's cool. 860 00:31:58,330 --> 00:32:02,058 [soft dramatic music] 861 00:32:02,127 --> 00:32:03,680 - Well, why call me your soul mate? 862 00:32:03,749 --> 00:32:06,510 Why say we're compatible and this and that 863 00:32:06,579 --> 00:32:08,443 if you don't see me that way? 864 00:32:08,512 --> 00:32:11,067 - Right. We read those texts. 865 00:32:11,136 --> 00:32:15,623 And that's just--there's no other interpretation 866 00:32:15,692 --> 00:32:18,660 of what those things mean. 867 00:32:19,834 --> 00:32:21,249 - It's just very complicated. 868 00:32:21,318 --> 00:32:22,664 I do care for him. 869 00:32:22,733 --> 00:32:25,219 But, you know, us living together like, 870 00:32:25,288 --> 00:32:26,427 you're going to move in. 871 00:32:26,496 --> 00:32:28,429 And I'm like, no. 872 00:32:28,498 --> 00:32:30,189 - Do you feel like he-- - Yeah. 873 00:32:30,258 --> 00:32:32,088 - Is trying to move in because he doesn't have 874 00:32:32,157 --> 00:32:33,537 another place to go? 875 00:32:33,606 --> 00:32:35,712 - Yeah, that's like how the conversation started. 876 00:32:35,781 --> 00:32:37,921 It was like, oh, I got to find another place. 877 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:40,820 Then, you know, I'm just like, keep looking. 878 00:32:40,889 --> 00:32:42,822 - Mm-hmm. 879 00:32:42,891 --> 00:32:46,240 - So that's another thing, like, do you want me, 880 00:32:46,309 --> 00:32:47,586 or do he need me? 881 00:32:47,655 --> 00:32:49,691 - Mm. Mm-hmm. 882 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,590 - I don't know. - I get it. 883 00:32:51,659 --> 00:32:54,282 You're a single mom of two kids. 884 00:32:54,351 --> 00:32:56,457 You're looking for stability. 885 00:32:56,526 --> 00:32:59,115 You want a stable, secure situation-- 886 00:32:59,184 --> 00:33:00,392 - Yeah. 887 00:33:00,461 --> 00:33:01,565 - For yourself and your children. 888 00:33:01,634 --> 00:33:03,015 So I understand that. 889 00:33:03,084 --> 00:33:04,465 - She's beautiful, right? 890 00:33:04,534 --> 00:33:06,501 I mean-- - She is, yeah. 891 00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:08,469 - You're not at all disappointed? 892 00:33:08,538 --> 00:33:09,677 - I'm not. 893 00:33:09,746 --> 00:33:12,680 - No, right, which is-- 894 00:33:12,749 --> 00:33:14,199 I just don't know. 895 00:33:14,268 --> 00:33:16,684 I feel like there's just something she's not saying. 896 00:33:16,753 --> 00:33:18,824 - I do have an emotional connection with him 897 00:33:18,893 --> 00:33:20,999 because he do treat me nice. 898 00:33:21,068 --> 00:33:23,035 He talks to me nice. - Mm-hmm. 899 00:33:23,104 --> 00:33:26,452 Well, you know, getting to know him, 900 00:33:26,521 --> 00:33:28,144 I got to hope for the best. 901 00:33:28,213 --> 00:33:30,525 But I feel like he's not just looking for a place to live. 902 00:33:30,594 --> 00:33:32,113 - Yeah. 903 00:33:32,182 --> 00:33:34,667 - It's obvious that he has very strong feelings for you. 904 00:33:34,736 --> 00:33:39,741 I think if you just want to be friends, 905 00:33:39,810 --> 00:33:41,985 you have to create that boundary. 906 00:33:42,054 --> 00:33:43,504 Because he-- 907 00:33:43,573 --> 00:33:45,782 - Oh, okay. - He loves you. 908 00:33:45,851 --> 00:33:47,749 And hard as it might be to say, 909 00:33:47,818 --> 00:33:49,544 he deserves to know the truth. 910 00:33:53,307 --> 00:33:56,344 - All right, let's get back over there and check in. 911 00:33:56,413 --> 00:33:57,759 - Okay. 912 00:33:57,828 --> 00:33:59,313 [soft dramatic music] 913 00:33:59,382 --> 00:34:01,211 - Hey, friends. 914 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,282 - Hey, friend. 915 00:34:03,351 --> 00:34:06,009 - Look, I'm happy you're you. 916 00:34:06,078 --> 00:34:07,390 - Mm-hmm. 917 00:34:07,459 --> 00:34:12,291 - I definitely also feel like there's still some fog. 918 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,844 - There's more you want to say. 919 00:34:13,913 --> 00:34:15,156 - Right. 920 00:34:15,225 --> 00:34:17,952 So I was gonna say, we could move to a little bit more 921 00:34:18,021 --> 00:34:21,335 comfortable location where we could sit, talk. 922 00:34:21,404 --> 00:34:23,440 - Okay. - Yeah. 923 00:34:23,509 --> 00:34:25,028 - So let's go. 924 00:34:25,097 --> 00:34:26,236 Come on. 925 00:34:26,305 --> 00:34:28,756 ♪ ♪ 926 00:34:42,494 --> 00:34:44,012 - You look really nice. 927 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:45,117 - Thank you. 928 00:34:45,186 --> 00:34:46,532 - You're welcome. 929 00:34:48,155 --> 00:34:50,260 - I've got butterflies in my stomach. 930 00:34:50,329 --> 00:34:53,263 [wistful music] 931 00:34:53,332 --> 00:34:59,683 ♪ ♪ 932 00:34:59,752 --> 00:35:01,409 - All right, we're here. 933 00:35:01,478 --> 00:35:02,652 Let's do it. 934 00:35:02,721 --> 00:35:04,999 [car door beeping] 935 00:35:07,174 --> 00:35:08,347 - Hey. - Hi. 936 00:35:08,416 --> 00:35:09,693 - Hi. 937 00:35:09,762 --> 00:35:11,695 - So Kamie and I were talking, 938 00:35:11,764 --> 00:35:13,145 and we think there's clearly 939 00:35:13,214 --> 00:35:15,354 still some communication that needs 940 00:35:15,423 --> 00:35:17,598 to happen between you guys so that 941 00:35:17,667 --> 00:35:20,635 you can be on the same level. 942 00:35:20,704 --> 00:35:21,878 - Okay. 943 00:35:21,947 --> 00:35:24,294 - Put it all out on the table. 944 00:35:24,363 --> 00:35:27,263 [somber music] 945 00:35:27,332 --> 00:35:28,609 ♪ ♪ 946 00:35:28,678 --> 00:35:30,162 - I like you as a friend. 947 00:35:30,231 --> 00:35:31,819 That's very clear. 948 00:35:31,888 --> 00:35:35,167 But what I'm looking for is somebody that 949 00:35:35,236 --> 00:35:38,653 is financially stable, 950 00:35:38,722 --> 00:35:41,863 and that's really, like, straightforward, 951 00:35:44,728 --> 00:35:47,248 somebody that is able to, you know, 952 00:35:47,317 --> 00:35:50,527 come into a household for me and my kids. 953 00:35:50,596 --> 00:35:52,495 - I understand. 954 00:35:52,564 --> 00:35:54,013 - But, you know, I feel like you're 955 00:35:54,082 --> 00:35:55,670 a good listener, understanding. 956 00:35:55,739 --> 00:35:57,534 You have those qualities already. 957 00:35:57,603 --> 00:36:00,365 ♪ ♪ 958 00:36:00,434 --> 00:36:02,539 - But it's not a no, never. 959 00:36:02,608 --> 00:36:03,713 - No. 960 00:36:03,782 --> 00:36:05,093 - Right, It's open-ended. 961 00:36:05,163 --> 00:36:08,166 I mean, he does possess a lot of qualities 962 00:36:08,235 --> 00:36:10,168 that you look for-- - Yeah. 963 00:36:10,237 --> 00:36:11,617 - In a partner. 964 00:36:11,686 --> 00:36:13,067 - I get it. 965 00:36:13,136 --> 00:36:14,241 - I'm sorry. 966 00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:16,070 I know that's probably a tough pill to swallow. 967 00:36:16,139 --> 00:36:18,072 - It's just a lot to process. 968 00:36:18,141 --> 00:36:19,901 You know, I'm going through it. 969 00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:21,489 - What are you dealing with? 970 00:36:21,558 --> 00:36:22,732 Maybe we can help. 971 00:36:22,801 --> 00:36:24,216 - I'm fighting depression. 972 00:36:24,285 --> 00:36:25,321 I'm--I'm-- 973 00:36:25,390 --> 00:36:27,046 - Okay. 974 00:36:27,115 --> 00:36:30,912 - Dealing with, you know, not having a job, you know, 975 00:36:30,981 --> 00:36:33,363 trying to make stuff happen with, 976 00:36:33,432 --> 00:36:35,020 you know, this DJ thing, 977 00:36:35,089 --> 00:36:38,610 you know, trying to get on the right track. 978 00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:41,785 - Well, we knew part of that, but we didn't know the extent 979 00:36:41,854 --> 00:36:43,304 of how you were feeling. 980 00:36:43,373 --> 00:36:44,581 It's a lot. 981 00:36:44,650 --> 00:36:46,031 - Yeah. 982 00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,413 - Are you getting any help for your depression? 983 00:36:48,482 --> 00:36:49,931 - No. 984 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,762 - Okay, well, we can certainly put you in touch 985 00:36:52,831 --> 00:36:54,281 with someone who can help. 986 00:36:54,350 --> 00:36:56,455 I know there are resources, obviously. 987 00:36:56,524 --> 00:36:57,732 - A lot of free ones too. 988 00:36:57,801 --> 00:36:59,078 - Yeah. 989 00:36:59,147 --> 00:37:00,701 So that might be a good place to start. 990 00:37:00,770 --> 00:37:03,324 Because obviously, it's hard to be motivated 991 00:37:03,393 --> 00:37:06,845 to do other stuff if you're struggling with depression. 992 00:37:06,914 --> 00:37:08,260 - You're not the only person. 993 00:37:08,329 --> 00:37:10,158 - I can vouch for therapy, as well. 994 00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:13,541 Like, the tough times do bring you down, 995 00:37:13,610 --> 00:37:17,511 but therapy is-- 996 00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:18,822 it'll change your mind. 997 00:37:18,891 --> 00:37:20,548 It'll change your life. - Yeah. 998 00:37:20,617 --> 00:37:22,067 - I get it. 999 00:37:22,136 --> 00:37:23,931 - Coming up with a plan for your future 1000 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,729 is impossible when you have a cloud over your brain. 1001 00:37:28,798 --> 00:37:30,903 And once you alleviate that part of it, 1002 00:37:30,972 --> 00:37:33,803 I think you'll find creating a plan for your future 1003 00:37:33,872 --> 00:37:36,254 to come so much easier to you. 1004 00:37:36,323 --> 00:37:38,290 - Yeah. 1005 00:37:38,359 --> 00:37:40,361 - All right, so where do we want 1006 00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:44,469 things to be for that moving forward, everyone's clear? 1007 00:37:44,538 --> 00:37:47,368 - You know, just take time for yourself. 1008 00:37:47,437 --> 00:37:51,096 I'm here as a friend, motivation, prayer. 1009 00:37:52,649 --> 00:37:53,926 I'm here for that. 1010 00:37:53,995 --> 00:37:55,031 - Also-- - I'm here. 1011 00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:56,308 - Don't be so shady. 1012 00:37:56,377 --> 00:37:58,448 Why you be so shady online? [laughter] 1013 00:37:58,517 --> 00:38:00,070 - What I'm so shady about? 1014 00:38:00,139 --> 00:38:02,210 - The forehead FaceTime. - Calling her out. 1015 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,351 - Okay, I'm sorry for the shadiness. 1016 00:38:04,420 --> 00:38:05,835 - And just be more clear. 1017 00:38:05,904 --> 00:38:07,285 - Okay, I'll be more clear. 1018 00:38:07,354 --> 00:38:08,700 - Yeah, all right. 1019 00:38:08,769 --> 00:38:10,771 We're gonna take Sebastian-- 1020 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,428 - Mm-hmm. 1021 00:38:12,497 --> 00:38:16,155 - And have someone drop you off wherever you'd like to go. 1022 00:38:16,224 --> 00:38:18,779 So we'll all walk outside now and say goodbye, all right. 1023 00:38:18,848 --> 00:38:20,436 - Okay. - All right. 1024 00:38:20,505 --> 00:38:22,058 - ♪ Ay, yi, yi ♪ 1025 00:38:22,127 --> 00:38:24,854 ♪ Good God, I'm ali-i-ive ♪ 1026 00:38:24,923 --> 00:38:26,511 - Allison. 1027 00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:29,168 - Nice meeting you. 1028 00:38:29,237 --> 00:38:31,792 - Good to meet you, Allison. 1029 00:38:33,587 --> 00:38:34,898 - ♪ I can't get up ♪ 1030 00:38:34,967 --> 00:38:37,970 ♪ My collar's tied to the ground ♪ 1031 00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:41,180 ♪ But you coming, ooh ♪ 1032 00:38:41,249 --> 00:38:42,250 - Bye. 1033 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,735 - ♪ You lift me up ♪ 1034 00:38:43,804 --> 00:38:45,081 ♪ Don't nobody, nobody ♪ 1035 00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:47,221 ♪ Nobody got what you give to me ♪ 1036 00:38:47,290 --> 00:38:50,569 ♪ Baby, you take away all my vanity ♪ 1037 00:38:50,638 --> 00:38:52,813 ♪ Ooh ♪ 1038 00:38:52,882 --> 00:38:54,539 - Sebastian, you have an amazing friend 1039 00:38:54,608 --> 00:38:58,197 who's a beautiful woman, who's on your team. 1040 00:38:58,266 --> 00:38:59,578 - And-- 1041 00:38:59,647 --> 00:39:00,752 - Really cares about you. 1042 00:39:00,821 --> 00:39:02,340 It's up to you. 1043 00:39:02,409 --> 00:39:05,308 You've got an opportunity and some great motivation 1044 00:39:05,377 --> 00:39:08,725 to get something good going for yourself, all right? 1045 00:39:08,794 --> 00:39:10,106 - Yeah. 1046 00:39:10,175 --> 00:39:13,799 - ♪ I want this feeling to last ♪ 1047 00:39:13,868 --> 00:39:15,560 ♪ You lift me up ♪ 1048 00:39:15,629 --> 00:39:20,047 ♪ ♪ 1049 00:39:20,116 --> 00:39:21,738 ♪ You lift me up [note chimes] 1050 00:39:21,807 --> 00:39:23,706 - Hey, what's up? 1051 00:39:23,775 --> 00:39:24,983 - How you doing? What's up, Nev? 1052 00:39:25,052 --> 00:39:26,433 - I like to see that big smile. 1053 00:39:26,502 --> 00:39:27,917 That's a nice smile. Give me the update. 1054 00:39:27,986 --> 00:39:29,228 What's been going on? 1055 00:39:29,297 --> 00:39:30,954 - Well, I'm in a place now. 1056 00:39:31,023 --> 00:39:32,508 - Oh, you got your own place. 1057 00:39:32,577 --> 00:39:36,615 - Yeah, and ironically, my roommate is a counselor. 1058 00:39:36,684 --> 00:39:38,790 - Wow, that's great. So you've been having, 1059 00:39:38,859 --> 00:39:41,171 like, real mental health conversations 1060 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,311 and they've been helping you? - Yes. 1061 00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:45,106 - Wow, and are you feeling better? 1062 00:39:45,175 --> 00:39:47,005 - I am-- - That's great. 1063 00:39:47,074 --> 00:39:48,282 - --as a matter of fact, yeah. - Wow. 1064 00:39:48,351 --> 00:39:49,456 - Yep, yep. - Happy to hear that. 1065 00:39:49,525 --> 00:39:51,043 And then what about, like, a job? 1066 00:39:51,112 --> 00:39:52,597 - I got in with this temp agency. 1067 00:39:52,666 --> 00:39:53,805 - Okay, so you're working? 1068 00:39:53,874 --> 00:39:55,220 - Yes, - That's great. 1069 00:39:55,289 --> 00:39:56,773 - And you look happy. - It's getting done. 1070 00:39:56,842 --> 00:39:58,085 - I mean, how are you feeling? - I'm feeling good. 1071 00:39:58,154 --> 00:39:59,466 - Good. This is amazing. 1072 00:39:59,535 --> 00:40:01,053 You're doing it. 1073 00:40:01,122 --> 00:40:02,192 - I'm doing it. 1074 00:40:02,261 --> 00:40:03,918 - Have you talked to Allison? 1075 00:40:03,987 --> 00:40:05,713 - We've been talking, briefly. 1076 00:40:05,782 --> 00:40:06,990 - Oh, wow, okay. 1077 00:40:07,059 --> 00:40:08,440 - But right now, you know, I'm taking-- 1078 00:40:08,509 --> 00:40:10,235 I'm taking this time to focus on myself. 1079 00:40:10,304 --> 00:40:12,064 - Wow, I mean, it's nice just to see feeling 1080 00:40:12,133 --> 00:40:13,928 much lighter and more optimistic. 1081 00:40:13,997 --> 00:40:15,136 - Yeah. 1082 00:40:15,205 --> 00:40:16,344 - So keep it up, bud. 1083 00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:18,726 - Thank you, will do. All right, Nev. 1084 00:40:18,795 --> 00:40:19,969 [note chimes] 1085 00:40:20,038 --> 00:40:21,626 - Hey, what's up, Allison? 1086 00:40:21,695 --> 00:40:22,730 - Hi. 1087 00:40:22,799 --> 00:40:24,352 - You're looking lovely. 1088 00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:25,457 - Thank you. 1089 00:40:25,526 --> 00:40:27,286 - I did chat a little bit with Sebastian. 1090 00:40:27,355 --> 00:40:28,702 I was happy to hear that you guys have 1091 00:40:28,771 --> 00:40:30,428 been in touch a little bit. 1092 00:40:30,497 --> 00:40:33,361 He seems like he's really in much, sort of, better spirits, 1093 00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:34,984 so I was happy to see all that. 1094 00:40:35,053 --> 00:40:36,434 - That's really good. 1095 00:40:36,503 --> 00:40:38,366 - Yeah, do you ever think back on 1096 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:40,748 kind of the relationship with Sebastian 1097 00:40:40,817 --> 00:40:42,336 and miss it a little bit? 1098 00:40:42,405 --> 00:40:45,581 - I do, but I really do want him to do well, 1099 00:40:45,650 --> 00:40:48,135 and I wish him nothing but the best. 1100 00:40:48,204 --> 00:40:51,414 - And I wish the best for you, of course, and your kids. 1101 00:40:51,483 --> 00:40:53,243 Nice to see you, and have a great summer. 1102 00:40:53,312 --> 00:40:55,280 - You too. - Bye. 1103 00:41:07,257 --> 00:41:08,638 - I met Piers when I was 13. 1104 00:41:08,707 --> 00:41:10,157 He lives in London. 1105 00:41:10,226 --> 00:41:12,677 I felt like I was writing a diary to him, 1106 00:41:12,746 --> 00:41:14,472 like, I told him everything. 1107 00:41:17,613 --> 00:41:18,855 - What? 1108 00:41:18,924 --> 00:41:20,512 - [gasps] - You see that person? 1109 00:41:20,581 --> 00:41:21,824 - Who is that? 1110 00:41:21,893 --> 00:41:22,825 - Hi. 1111 00:41:22,894 --> 00:41:26,414 - Here we go.