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- Eric and Lianna
had been talking,
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and he fell hard for her.
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- I opened up to you, and,
like, who the hell are you?
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- She stood you up
three times.
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then she comes at you
- E from someone else.her,
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- Yeah.
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- At what point
does it become--
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- Harassing?
- Yeah.
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- Oh. She's typing.
- [gasps]
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Ahh!
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[dramatic musical sting]
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[upbeat music]
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- ♪ Seeing is believing ♪
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- Back to business.
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- Hello.
- Hey. There she is.
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Whoa.
Your braids, wow.
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- It's a cultural reset...
- I love it.
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- Is what it is honestly.
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- Anyway, I have to make sure
we stay on schedule today
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because right after we film,
I have to go rehearse
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for "Dancing with the Stars."
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I got to learn my dance.
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- Are you going to show me
some dance moves or what?
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- I'll show you, like,
a little bit
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of what I learned yesterday.
It's all about, like,
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bah, bah,
you know, it's, like,
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it's that cha-cha-cha,
cha-cha-cha.
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- Wow.
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- And then you hit,
and then you do,
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like a rond de jambe,
ball change.
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It's really--it's hard.
- A rond de jambe?
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The terminology.
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[laughs]
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- Anyway,
so let's get into this.
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We got an email from Eric.
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"Hey, Nev and Kamie.
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"My name is Eric.
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"I'm 29, and I live
in Buffalo, New York,
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"I'm a full-time dad,
so I haven't been
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"in any serious relationships
for a while,
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"but I have been talking
to this girl named Lianna
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"for the past five months.
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"She friended me
out of the blue.
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"She was really cute,
so I messaged her,
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"and we started talking.
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"She's super sexy but mainly
a really good listener.
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"She actually cares about
what's going on in my life.
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"I honestly haven't had
a connection like this
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in a while,
so I was excited for it."
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- ♪ Gravity has caught up
to me ♪
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"I fell hard for her.
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"She was everything
I was looking for.
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I tried to meet her
multiple times,
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"but she stood me up
every time.
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"I suggested we video chat,
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but that hasn't
happened either."
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- ♪ Because I don't want to
fall from the great height ♪
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- "Then her friend
got involved,
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"and it was really weird.
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"This girl is making it
impossible to get together
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or for me to move on."
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- ♪ She's a killer ♪
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- "We're still talking."
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- ♪ Psycho vanilla ♪
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- "But I need to find out what
her deal is once and for all."
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- ♪ Lead role in my dreams ♪
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- "She's driving me crazy."
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- ♪ Because I don't
want to fall ♪
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♪ From the great heights ♪
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- "Thanks for your help,
Eric."
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- ♪ But my grip is failing ♪
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- All right. I've texted Eric.
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- It's the friend.
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- Well, yeah, I mean,
anytime a catfish has a friend
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that comes into the situation,
you got to be suspicious.
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- I guess we have to find out.
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[computer chimes]
both: Oh.
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- I heard a ding.
- Hello!
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- What's happening?
- How you doing, Eric?
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You said you have a kid, right?
How old is your kid?
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- He just turned ten
on the 10th.
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- Wow.
- Ohh.
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- He stays with you full-time?
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- Yeah. Me and his mom,
we co-parent very well.
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She's very a part of his life
every day,
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so we do it together.
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- That's great.
So we saw your email.
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Tell us more about Lianna.
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Is that how she says it?
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- Yes, it is.
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She's a hairstylist.
She's 24.
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She's from New Hampshire,
which matches her number,
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because her number
is a New Hampshire number.
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- Does she live
in New Hampshire?
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Or does she live in Buffalo?
- She lives in Buffalo.
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She's been here about a year
and a half now she told me.
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- How did you meet?
- She added me on Facebook.
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I went right ahead
and messaged her,
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and she was gorgeous,
so, like, why not?
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She messaged me back and said,
"Oh, I thought you were cute.
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Sorry." So from there,
I knew I was in.
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- Did you have mutual friends
or anything?
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- We had a few,
like, 12 or something.
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- Do any of your friends
actually know her?
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- No, I've asked.
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- Okay, so you did ask. Okay.
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So you messaged her,
and then how, like, what--
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how did that go?
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- Probably within a couple
days, I had her number.
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We started having phone calls.
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- And how were
your phone calls?
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- They were actually
pretty captivating.
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Like, a lot of what she does
is family orientated.
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You know, she's real involved
with her family,
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and I told her about my son,
told her about my work.
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We shared some things about
our lives with each other.
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She had a way of, like, just
making me think differently.
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She really got into, like,
me thinking my future
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and what I'm trying to do,
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and she was just
very supportive.
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I feel like she's a good soul.
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I was easily able
to connect with her,
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and it's weird,
because usually I don't even
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open up like that to people.
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- Yeah, and it was
a girl's voice.
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- Yes, yes.
It was a girl's voice for sure.
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Within about two weeks
of talking to her,
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I wanted to meet up.
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The plan was for her
to come over,
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and then we were going
to go out to Delaware Park.
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- So she had your address.
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- Yes, and then poof,
just gone.
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After, like, two hours of
waiting, she just blocked me.
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- Hmm.
- Hmm.
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- But you guys did obviously
start talking again,
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so how did she come back
from that?
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What was her, like--
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- She unblocked me,
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because she had reached out
to me again
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saying she was sorry
and giving me
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an explanation
for what had happened,
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something about her mom,
you know, her mom was sick.
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She needed to go over there
and take care of that.
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- She didn't know her mom
was sick
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before she made plans
to come over?
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- Exactly.
- Right.
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- So you guys
start talking again.
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Was there another plan
to meet up again?
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- Yeah.
- And what happened this time?
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- You know,
she's getting ready,
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da-da-da-da-da,
we're good.
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I'm like, "What's your ETA?"
And she's like, "10 minutes,"
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and then boom,
her phone goes off,
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and I don't hear from her
for like a week.
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- So she ghosted you again.
- Yes.
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- And yet somehow you're still
involved with this woman.
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- That's where Maria
comes into play.
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- That's Lianna's friend
you mentioned. Maria.
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- Maria.
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- After the second time,
I block Lianna.
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So about a week goes by.
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I start messaging
with this girl, Maria, online.
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- She messages you first?
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- No, it was me.
I messaged her.
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- How did you find her?
- I just happened to see her
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as people I should know,
and I added it.
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- Mm.
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- She immediately
brought up Lianna
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and that she can't talk to me,
because she knows Lianna,
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and she wouldn't do that
to Lianna.
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- I mean, if she's friends
with Lianna,
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it would make sense
that she might pop up
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on the people you may know.
- Yeah.
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She was trying to tell me
to give Lianna another chance.
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- It's weird. Had Maria
friended you, I would be like,
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"Oh, Maria and Lianna
are the same person."
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- Yeah.
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- But the fact that you
friended her...strange.
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- So what happened after that?
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- Maria said, "Okay,
I'm coming to Buffalo.
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I'm going to
bring Lianna to you."
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I unblock Lianna,
and we made plans.
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Maria was going to drop her
off at my house.
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The day comes.
These girls are on their way,
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and she says that Maria
pulled over,
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because she was fighting
with her boyfriend.
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So Lianna says, "Listen.
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I'm just gonna walk to you."
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I went outside,
and I looked both ways.
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And I didn't see her anywhere.
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So I went back inside, and then
I didn't even call her,
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and she didn't even call me.
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- Wow.
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- So please tell me you have
not talked to her since.
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- She contacted me
about a month ago,
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and I kind of fell right back
into it to be honest.
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- She stood you up three times.
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- Yeah.
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You know, she was saying
she'd give me another chance.
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So at that point, like,
I did invest time into you,
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and, like, I told her
some things that, like,
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I don't want to have to tell
another girl, you know?
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- Sure.
- Like, it's comforting.
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- Yeah.
- So, like, you're coming to me
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with your boo-hoos
and your sorries,
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and yes, you're adorable,
so okay, fine.
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- So you like the chase.
- I do.
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I do definitely enjoy chase.
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Like, for some reason,
I feel, like, drawn.
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- So let's see this girl.
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Can you plug your phone in
and show us her profile?
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- Okay. Hold on.
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Okay. You guys
have my screen now, right?
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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- Oh. Whoa.
- Whoa.
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- Hey. Oh, my goodness.
- [laughs]
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Couldn't you give a warning
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before you show full vag,
please?
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Would be great.
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- Sorry, bro.
- I see.
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Steamy. Okay.
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- All right.
So there she is looking cute.
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- You want me to just flip
through them?
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- Yeah, you could swipe.
- Yeah.
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- Okay. Cute.
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- Okay.
It's going to get graphic.
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Go quick. Go quick.
- Okay.
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- Quick.
- Okay.
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- Whoa.
- Ah!
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- [laughs]
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[laughter]
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- There's a first
for everything on this show.
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I love it.
- Lord.
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- You really sent her
multiple angles.
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- [coughs]
- [laughs]
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- Okay, Eric.
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- Now, that was an experience.
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Can you go back
to your text messages?
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And I just want to see how you
guys interact with each other.
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- Okay.
- You guys talk pretty often.
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- Oh.
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- This is the last time
she said,
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"I'm going to come with Maria,
and we're going to see you."
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"What is a good time
for us to visit?"
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"At 4 we can do something."
"Okay. Sounds good. See you."
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00:08:41,121 --> 00:08:43,655
Now that's 5:00.
Already she's an hour late.
247
00:08:43,724 --> 00:08:45,624
We are leaving in a few.
"She had to tell her man
248
00:08:45,692 --> 00:08:47,592
"where she was going
and took him home.
249
00:08:47,661 --> 00:08:49,094
"I'm not flaking.
I'm actually excited.
250
00:08:49,162 --> 00:08:50,595
I'm going to be there in,
like, 25 minutes."
251
00:08:50,664 --> 00:08:52,664
Now it's 6:46.
252
00:08:52,733 --> 00:08:55,066
"Right down the street.
I'm walking.
253
00:08:55,135 --> 00:08:57,102
"I'm going to hug you
and wrap my legs around you,
254
00:08:57,170 --> 00:08:58,637
and I'm not
wearing underwear."
255
00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:00,372
Is this how she talks
on the phone?
256
00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,575
- No, you know what? She's not
really like this on the phone.
257
00:09:03,644 --> 00:09:05,210
- So you were like,
"Where are you?"
258
00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:06,945
And she said, "Up the street.
You should see me walking."
259
00:09:07,014 --> 00:09:08,580
- But you would have seen her
coming down the street.
260
00:09:08,649 --> 00:09:10,649
- Yeah.
- And then nothing.
261
00:09:10,717 --> 00:09:11,716
She just disappeared
for the night.
262
00:09:11,785 --> 00:09:13,018
Unbelievable.
263
00:09:13,086 --> 00:09:14,786
- She obviously
was never there.
264
00:09:14,855 --> 00:09:16,154
- That's how I feel.
265
00:09:16,223 --> 00:09:18,290
- Something is definitely
going on with this chick.
266
00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:20,992
- Honestly, if that's not her,
267
00:09:21,061 --> 00:09:23,061
I'm going to feel violated,
you know?
268
00:09:23,130 --> 00:09:25,330
I opened up to you,
and, like, you're--
269
00:09:25,399 --> 00:09:26,498
Who the hell are you?
270
00:09:26,567 --> 00:09:30,201
- Wow. Okay.
Well, now I need to know.
271
00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:32,837
- Send us her phone number.
Send us her Facebook page.
272
00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:34,172
- Not the [bleep] pics.
273
00:09:34,241 --> 00:09:35,941
I don't know
if Google image search
274
00:09:36,009 --> 00:09:38,410
will get us
the correct results.
275
00:09:38,478 --> 00:09:39,945
- [laughs]
276
00:09:40,013 --> 00:09:41,346
- Let us do some digging,
see what we can find
277
00:09:41,415 --> 00:09:43,014
and hopefully
get a little bit closer
278
00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:46,818
to figuring out what is
going on with this Lianna lady.
279
00:09:46,887 --> 00:09:48,987
- All right. Thank you, guys.
- Good to meet you, man.
280
00:09:49,056 --> 00:09:51,423
- Nice to meet you guys too.
Bye.
281
00:09:51,491 --> 00:09:53,692
- Something is wrong.
That whole walking,
282
00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,694
I'm walking, I'm walking now,
283
00:09:55,762 --> 00:09:58,196
I am on your street, the balls.
284
00:09:58,265 --> 00:10:00,065
- I know.
- Who is this person?
285
00:10:00,133 --> 00:10:01,399
- I don't know.
We got to figure it out.
286
00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:03,602
- She can't keep toying
with people this way.
287
00:10:03,670 --> 00:10:06,204
We've got to stop her.
288
00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:09,040
[funky percussive music]
289
00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:11,476
- So we got an interesting
situation here.
290
00:10:11,545 --> 00:10:12,644
Eric and Lianna
had been talking
291
00:10:12,713 --> 00:10:14,613
for a little over
six months now.
292
00:10:14,681 --> 00:10:17,649
It looks like a cut-and-dry
catfish situation.
293
00:10:17,718 --> 00:10:19,618
- Mm-hmm.
- She friended him on Facebook.
294
00:10:19,686 --> 00:10:21,353
He thought she was cute.
They started chatting.
295
00:10:21,421 --> 00:10:24,189
She says, "I'll meet up
with you," disappears.
296
00:10:24,257 --> 00:10:27,859
And then he sent, like, five
dick pics, like,
297
00:10:27,928 --> 00:10:29,694
at the same time.
- Different angles.
298
00:10:29,763 --> 00:10:31,296
He was like, "This angle.
299
00:10:31,365 --> 00:10:32,864
This angle. This angle."
300
00:10:32,933 --> 00:10:36,501
- He did, like, the 360,
like, full...
301
00:10:36,570 --> 00:10:38,436
- [laughs]
302
00:10:38,505 --> 00:10:40,171
A virtual tour.
303
00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,073
- All right.
So let's see what we got here,
304
00:10:42,142 --> 00:10:45,243
because I'm ready to crack
this case wide open.
305
00:10:45,312 --> 00:10:46,645
So he sent me an email.
306
00:10:46,713 --> 00:10:48,279
"Hey, guys, this is
a little the info I have."
307
00:10:48,348 --> 00:10:52,283
It's a Lianna Bressca,
phone number, Facebook page,
308
00:10:52,352 --> 00:10:54,419
and then Maria Camsso.
309
00:10:54,488 --> 00:10:56,187
Okay. And then the pictures.
310
00:10:56,256 --> 00:10:57,489
So let's--
I kind of just want to start
311
00:10:57,557 --> 00:10:59,090
with the pictures
if that's okay?
312
00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:00,992
All right, so I'm going
to start with this pic.
313
00:11:01,061 --> 00:11:04,062
[tense music]
314
00:11:04,131 --> 00:11:07,666
No hit.
All right. Next pic.
315
00:11:07,734 --> 00:11:09,567
All right.
Again no hit on this.
316
00:11:09,636 --> 00:11:11,403
Man, no hits.
317
00:11:11,471 --> 00:11:13,905
All right, and the last one.
318
00:11:13,974 --> 00:11:15,206
Oh!
319
00:11:15,275 --> 00:11:16,608
We got a hit.
- [gasps]
320
00:11:16,677 --> 00:11:18,043
- ♪ We got a hit ♪
321
00:11:18,111 --> 00:11:18,910
♪ We got a hit ♪
322
00:11:18,979 --> 00:11:20,779
- Oh, my God. Click it.
323
00:11:20,847 --> 00:11:22,580
- I can't believe
on the last one.
324
00:11:22,649 --> 00:11:24,049
- Click it.
325
00:11:24,117 --> 00:11:26,351
- All right,
let's check this out.
326
00:11:26,420 --> 00:11:27,318
Oh.
327
00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:29,287
- Ahh!
328
00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:31,122
- Why are there so much vagina
in this episode?
329
00:11:31,191 --> 00:11:32,323
- I don't know.
- And another penis.
330
00:11:32,392 --> 00:11:33,992
What is going on?
331
00:11:34,061 --> 00:11:37,462
- I'm--I'm done. Listen.
I'm open to a lot of things.
332
00:11:37,531 --> 00:11:39,064
- Here it is. Look. Here it is.
333
00:11:39,132 --> 00:11:40,031
That's her.
334
00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:41,700
- [gasps]
335
00:11:41,768 --> 00:11:43,101
- That is her.
336
00:11:43,170 --> 00:11:45,770
Kayala [bleep].
"In your dreams, bitch."
337
00:11:45,839 --> 00:11:48,807
Ooh, what's this?
Who is this Kayala [bleep]?
338
00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:50,375
- [gasps]
339
00:11:50,444 --> 00:11:51,710
- Oh, God.
It's this thing again.
340
00:11:51,778 --> 00:11:53,378
- Again with the vagina.
341
00:11:53,447 --> 00:11:57,649
Please, can we get
a vagina alert chime?
342
00:11:57,718 --> 00:11:58,983
- Oh, wait a second.
343
00:11:59,052 --> 00:12:01,653
Oh, it wants to download
something.
344
00:12:01,722 --> 00:12:04,389
- "Teen with big tits
craving for [bleep]."
345
00:12:04,458 --> 00:12:05,690
Get off of this [bleep].
346
00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:08,560
We're going to get
a [bleep] virus.
347
00:12:08,628 --> 00:12:11,062
But that name.
- Kayala [bleep].
348
00:12:11,131 --> 00:12:12,897
Let's look that up.
349
00:12:12,966 --> 00:12:14,032
♪ ♪
350
00:12:14,101 --> 00:12:15,400
There's a Twitter.
351
00:12:15,469 --> 00:12:20,138
- Her name seems to be
to be Kayala [bleep].
352
00:12:20,207 --> 00:12:23,341
- Okay. Here's her Twitter.
SpongeBob.
353
00:12:23,410 --> 00:12:24,909
-It's different than the link.
354
00:12:24,978 --> 00:12:29,214
She changed her name from
Kayala [bleep] to kprincess.
355
00:12:29,282 --> 00:12:31,382
- It's private.
356
00:12:31,451 --> 00:12:33,351
Let's check out her mentions.
357
00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:34,786
- What are these
conversations?
358
00:12:34,855 --> 00:12:37,088
- "Send me your addy."
359
00:12:38,325 --> 00:12:40,725
I mean, so okay,
so whatever she's posting,
360
00:12:40,794 --> 00:12:43,128
it's obviously
of very sexual nature.
361
00:12:43,196 --> 00:12:45,296
This definitely feels very,
like,
362
00:12:45,365 --> 00:12:48,466
camgirl, OnlyFans vibe-y.
363
00:12:48,535 --> 00:12:50,769
- But you wouldn't put that
as your picture.
364
00:12:50,837 --> 00:12:53,238
- SpongeBob?
- You would have a real photo.
365
00:12:53,306 --> 00:12:55,440
Who's going to [bleep]
pay for that?
366
00:12:55,509 --> 00:12:59,177
- Let's search for kprincess.
367
00:12:59,246 --> 00:13:00,612
- Oh.
- Oh.
368
00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:01,846
- Oh, jackpot.
369
00:13:01,915 --> 00:13:03,114
- There's an Instagram.
370
00:13:03,183 --> 00:13:06,951
SpongeBob. Again
with the fake avatar and...
371
00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:09,020
- I can't.
372
00:13:09,089 --> 00:13:10,522
- Obviously someone
is associated
373
00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:12,524
with those profiles,
goes by Kayala,
374
00:13:12,592 --> 00:13:14,058
but that doesn't necessarily
mean that she's the girl
375
00:13:14,127 --> 00:13:15,226
in the pictures.
376
00:13:15,295 --> 00:13:16,895
Is someone stealing her photos
377
00:13:16,963 --> 00:13:20,565
and using them on
this weird Tumblr or something?
378
00:13:20,634 --> 00:13:22,801
But let's run
the phone number...
379
00:13:22,869 --> 00:13:25,270
- Yeah.
- And see if that comes back
380
00:13:25,338 --> 00:13:27,572
to anything.
381
00:13:27,641 --> 00:13:30,441
- Maybe to a Kayala.
382
00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:32,377
- Kalynn?
- Kalynn?
383
00:13:32,445 --> 00:13:33,645
- Kalynn [bleep].
384
00:13:33,713 --> 00:13:36,881
- Also known as Kalynn Marie.
385
00:13:36,950 --> 00:13:38,082
- Marie.
386
00:13:38,151 --> 00:13:40,852
Very similar
to Lianna's friend, Maria.
387
00:13:40,921 --> 00:13:41,920
- Mm.
388
00:13:41,988 --> 00:13:43,555
- All right.
Let's check this out.
389
00:13:43,623 --> 00:13:46,324
Oh, yeah, and look,
a Facebook page.
390
00:13:46,393 --> 00:13:47,959
[tense music]
391
00:13:48,028 --> 00:13:49,194
- Oh, SpongeBob.
392
00:13:49,262 --> 00:13:53,231
Kayala had SpongeBob
as her avatars, didn't she?
393
00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:55,166
Yeah, see, SpongeBob.
394
00:13:55,235 --> 00:13:56,634
It's her.
395
00:13:56,703 --> 00:13:58,970
- It's definitely
not the girl in the pictures.
396
00:13:59,039 --> 00:14:01,573
So for the phone number
that he's been speaking
397
00:14:01,641 --> 00:14:02,774
to Lianna on,
398
00:14:02,843 --> 00:14:04,209
it comes back
to this girl, Kalynn.
399
00:14:04,277 --> 00:14:08,813
She's 29, and we found
a weird connection
400
00:14:08,882 --> 00:14:12,383
between our likely
other fake profiles
401
00:14:12,452 --> 00:14:15,687
associated with the images
of Lianna
402
00:14:15,755 --> 00:14:18,122
but under another name,
Kayala.
403
00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:19,457
- Mm-hmm.
404
00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:21,559
- Which is similar to Kalynn,
405
00:14:21,628 --> 00:14:24,062
and there's a SpongeBob
connection.
406
00:14:24,130 --> 00:14:26,764
Is Kalynn taking pictures
of this other girl
407
00:14:26,833 --> 00:14:28,533
and making all these
fake profiles?
408
00:14:28,602 --> 00:14:30,735
- This can't be a coincidence.
409
00:14:30,804 --> 00:14:32,637
- She is our prime suspect.
410
00:14:32,706 --> 00:14:34,305
Let's go
to Lianna's Facebook page
411
00:14:34,374 --> 00:14:35,840
and just take a look at it.
All right.
412
00:14:35,909 --> 00:14:38,209
So there's not a lot on here
that we can see.
413
00:14:38,278 --> 00:14:40,044
2,000 friends.
414
00:14:40,113 --> 00:14:41,646
- She's friends with
a lot of guys.
415
00:14:41,715 --> 00:14:43,248
- Like, there's so many guys.
416
00:14:43,316 --> 00:14:45,984
I wonder if she's talking to
any of these other guys.
417
00:14:46,052 --> 00:14:49,053
Yeah, let's message this guy.
418
00:14:52,592 --> 00:14:54,759
Sent. I mean, there's also--
419
00:14:54,828 --> 00:14:56,661
let's just check out
Maria's Facebook page.
420
00:14:56,730 --> 00:15:00,265
So this is Lianna's friend
that Eric was also talking to.
421
00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:03,234
Okay. Here's Maria.
- Mm.
422
00:15:03,303 --> 00:15:05,536
- Because this could be
a fake page too.
423
00:15:05,605 --> 00:15:07,305
- True.
- Right?
424
00:15:07,374 --> 00:15:09,007
- She's friends
with a lot of guys,
425
00:15:09,075 --> 00:15:11,409
and so is the Lianna account.
426
00:15:11,478 --> 00:15:13,845
- Check this out. There's even
more comments, right?
427
00:15:13,914 --> 00:15:15,880
I've seen the guy,
like, Andy [bleep]
428
00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:18,182
kind of comments
with the most consistency.
429
00:15:18,251 --> 00:15:19,250
Let's message him.
430
00:15:21,755 --> 00:15:23,187
Okay. Sent.
Ooh, look at this.
431
00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:25,990
This guy Danny wrote,
"Mine" with a heart,
432
00:15:26,059 --> 00:15:29,160
and then she wrote back,
"Always" hearts.
433
00:15:30,030 --> 00:15:33,331
Let's send him a message.
434
00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,766
Sent.
435
00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:37,101
- This is supposed to be
the girl who had a boyfriend
436
00:15:37,170 --> 00:15:40,305
when she was driving Lianna
to come and see Eric?
437
00:15:40,373 --> 00:15:42,874
- I mean, maybe Danny
is her boyfriend,
438
00:15:42,943 --> 00:15:45,843
but it feels like
what we're dealing with here
439
00:15:45,912 --> 00:15:48,646
is some bull[bleep].
440
00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:51,649
- I'm going go out there
on a limb that Eric
441
00:15:51,718 --> 00:15:54,752
is not talking to the girl
in the pictures whatsoever.
442
00:15:54,821 --> 00:15:56,754
This is somebody
completely different,
443
00:15:56,823 --> 00:16:00,458
and I think that whoever
this person is,
444
00:16:00,527 --> 00:16:01,793
they're also Maria.
445
00:16:01,861 --> 00:16:04,329
Clearly this person
doesn't want to be found.
446
00:16:04,397 --> 00:16:05,797
- Are these both fake,
447
00:16:05,865 --> 00:16:07,065
and are they both run
by the same person?
448
00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:09,300
And is that person Kalynn?
449
00:16:09,369 --> 00:16:10,835
It just feels like this
is going to go
450
00:16:10,904 --> 00:16:13,705
from private parts
to broken hearts.
451
00:16:13,773 --> 00:16:15,707
♪ ♪
452
00:16:17,243 --> 00:16:18,209
- Good morning, everyone, again
453
00:16:18,278 --> 00:16:22,046
from me and the Smalls.
454
00:16:22,115 --> 00:16:23,581
Biggie, guess what.
455
00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:26,317
Today I went outside.
456
00:16:26,386 --> 00:16:28,219
I got some treats.
457
00:16:28,288 --> 00:16:29,654
He's like, "How could you?
458
00:16:29,723 --> 00:16:31,356
You did all these things
without me?"
459
00:16:31,424 --> 00:16:34,425
No, don't leave.
You want a treat?
460
00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,027
Let's get a treat.
Yeah.
461
00:16:36,096 --> 00:16:37,628
[laughs]
462
00:16:37,697 --> 00:16:39,197
Where is Nev?
463
00:16:39,265 --> 00:16:40,264
[phone dings]
464
00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:43,368
We have things to do.
465
00:16:43,436 --> 00:16:44,869
[computer chimes]
466
00:16:44,938 --> 00:16:46,237
Yo.
467
00:16:46,306 --> 00:16:48,339
[computer chimes]
468
00:16:48,408 --> 00:16:51,642
- So let's check and see if--
469
00:16:51,711 --> 00:16:53,644
- Because you messaged a lot
of people yesterday.
470
00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:55,913
- Ooh, one message
from Danny Brooklyn.
471
00:16:55,982 --> 00:16:57,415
- He was the one talking
to Maria
472
00:16:57,484 --> 00:16:58,850
like he's her boyfriend.
473
00:16:58,918 --> 00:17:00,918
He basically says,
"Yes, you can talk to me,"
474
00:17:00,987 --> 00:17:02,220
but he didn't give his number
or anything,
475
00:17:02,288 --> 00:17:04,756
so let's message him
quickly and just say,
476
00:17:04,824 --> 00:17:09,293
"Hello.
Thanks for getting back to me.
477
00:17:09,362 --> 00:17:10,895
Here's my number."
478
00:17:10,964 --> 00:17:13,664
Okay. Sent. Let me text Eric
and see where he's at.
479
00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,833
- I think he's still
holding out hope that, like,
480
00:17:15,902 --> 00:17:18,036
this girl
actually cares about him,
481
00:17:18,104 --> 00:17:22,473
and maybe she does,
but it's not looking great.
482
00:17:26,146 --> 00:17:28,112
- Hey!
- Hello.
483
00:17:29,149 --> 00:17:30,681
- Hey, Eric.
- How you doing, man?
What's going on?
484
00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:32,450
- I had a rough start
to my day.
485
00:17:32,519 --> 00:17:34,318
Like,
I threw up this morning.
486
00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:36,421
- Is it, like, anxiety?
- Yep.
487
00:17:36,489 --> 00:17:38,489
Honestly,
I'm still conflicted on,
488
00:17:38,558 --> 00:17:39,957
you know,
if it's real or not.
489
00:17:40,026 --> 00:17:42,326
If everything checks out,
I want to see her.
490
00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:44,662
You know,
I want to pursue this.
491
00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:46,564
- All right.
Well, look, yesterday
492
00:17:46,633 --> 00:17:47,765
we did the best we could.
493
00:17:47,834 --> 00:17:49,867
We found a lot of stuff.
494
00:17:49,936 --> 00:17:51,302
- Okay.
495
00:17:51,371 --> 00:17:53,738
- We searched as many photos
of her that we could find,
496
00:17:53,807 --> 00:17:56,474
and one of them shows up
on this website.
497
00:17:56,543 --> 00:17:58,076
It's called Tumbral.
498
00:17:58,144 --> 00:17:59,911
It's not Tumblr,
but it's called Tumbral,
499
00:17:59,979 --> 00:18:03,147
and it seems to sort of
aggregate different
500
00:18:03,216 --> 00:18:04,849
Tumblr pictures.
501
00:18:04,918 --> 00:18:07,518
I'm not really sure what to
make of it, but clearly it's...
502
00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:09,153
- Lianna.
503
00:18:09,222 --> 00:18:10,955
- So we followed these links
to see where they took us,
504
00:18:11,024 --> 00:18:13,858
and, Kamie,
I know you need the warning,
505
00:18:13,927 --> 00:18:15,693
but there is
some graphic content.
506
00:18:15,762 --> 00:18:17,228
- Thank you.
- So just prepare yourself.
507
00:18:17,297 --> 00:18:19,197
You can see
the picture is here,
508
00:18:19,265 --> 00:18:21,766
and I'll scroll up
just so you can get a sense.
509
00:18:21,835 --> 00:18:23,701
There's pictures
of other body parts
510
00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:25,236
and things of that nature.
511
00:18:25,305 --> 00:18:27,972
- Ohh, I saw it anyway.
512
00:18:28,041 --> 00:18:31,542
- And so it's weird,
because why is her picture
513
00:18:31,611 --> 00:18:34,712
on what appears to be
some sort of
514
00:18:34,781 --> 00:18:38,716
amateur porn Tumblr page.
515
00:18:38,785 --> 00:18:40,952
There is one comment
from Kayala [bleep].
516
00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:43,054
She says,
"In your dreams, bitch."
517
00:18:43,123 --> 00:18:46,257
So we did a search
for Kayala [bleep].
518
00:18:46,326 --> 00:18:49,093
Now, this brought us
to a Twitter account.
519
00:18:49,162 --> 00:18:50,695
There aren't any pictures
of her,
520
00:18:50,763 --> 00:18:53,064
but whoever had
the Kayala [bleep]
521
00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:57,568
Twitter profile at some point
changed the name to kprincess.
522
00:18:57,637 --> 00:19:01,873
So we kept searching,
and we found this Instagram
523
00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:06,377
for kprincess, and sure enough
the name is Kayala again.
524
00:19:06,446 --> 00:19:08,913
It's locked. It's private.
525
00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:11,249
So all we could see is that
she's using SpongeBob
526
00:19:12,152 --> 00:19:14,852
as her avatar.
Not sure what that means,
but okay.
527
00:19:14,921 --> 00:19:16,687
Do you know anyone
named Kayala?
528
00:19:16,756 --> 00:19:18,089
- I don't.
- Right.
529
00:19:18,158 --> 00:19:20,625
That name doesn't ring
any bells to you.
530
00:19:20,693 --> 00:19:22,126
Now, it could have
just as easily been
531
00:19:22,195 --> 00:19:23,995
a fake account
that someone started.
532
00:19:24,063 --> 00:19:27,165
I'm not sure there's any way
to really decipher that.
533
00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:30,535
But who is posting them?
Who is Kayala?
534
00:19:30,603 --> 00:19:31,903
Is she the girl
in the pictures?
535
00:19:31,971 --> 00:19:33,538
How, if any,
is there a connection
536
00:19:33,606 --> 00:19:35,540
between her and Lianna?
537
00:19:35,608 --> 00:19:36,674
We don't know yet.
538
00:19:36,743 --> 00:19:39,677
- Ohh, wow.
539
00:19:39,746 --> 00:19:41,245
- So and then we
sort of though, "Okay.
540
00:19:41,314 --> 00:19:43,247
Let's go back
and do the phone number.
541
00:19:43,316 --> 00:19:44,949
So we searched the phone number
you have
542
00:19:45,018 --> 00:19:46,584
and the one that you text,
543
00:19:46,653 --> 00:19:48,853
and the first hit we got
544
00:19:48,922 --> 00:19:51,722
was for someone
named Kalynn [bleep].
545
00:19:51,791 --> 00:19:53,357
Does that--
- Does that name ring a bell?
546
00:19:53,426 --> 00:19:54,592
- No.
547
00:19:54,661 --> 00:19:56,093
- Well, according to this,
548
00:19:56,162 --> 00:20:00,298
there is a Facebook page
linked to her info.
549
00:20:00,366 --> 00:20:02,433
So here's Kalynn.
550
00:20:02,502 --> 00:20:04,101
Kalynn is 29.
551
00:20:04,170 --> 00:20:05,736
- You don't recognize
this girl?
552
00:20:05,805 --> 00:20:08,639
- No.
No, I got no idea who that is.
553
00:20:08,708 --> 00:20:10,508
- Right.
You've never seen her before?
554
00:20:10,577 --> 00:20:12,710
- No.
None of that's ringing a bell.
555
00:20:12,779 --> 00:20:15,046
- The one thing
that jumped out at me
556
00:20:15,114 --> 00:20:19,050
was that her background here
is a SpongeBob photo.
557
00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:21,052
So that made me think,
"Okay. Wait a second.
558
00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,387
And if you go back
to the Instagram
559
00:20:23,456 --> 00:20:27,959
and Twitter that we found,
it's a picture of SpongeBob."
560
00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:29,860
- Kayala and Kalynn
are similar names.
561
00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:31,896
They both have SpongeBob
in their profiles.
562
00:20:31,965 --> 00:20:33,864
I mean, it could just be,
like,
563
00:20:33,933 --> 00:20:34,799
a silly coincidence,
but--
564
00:20:34,867 --> 00:20:37,802
- Or not.
- Or not.
565
00:20:37,870 --> 00:20:41,038
- From how I'm looking at it,
I got catfished.
566
00:20:41,107 --> 00:20:43,274
- Yes, it's definitely
not a good sign that
567
00:20:43,343 --> 00:20:47,211
the phone number comes back to
a different girl named Kalynn.
568
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,514
There doesn't seem to be
any trace of, like,
569
00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:52,650
a Lianna anywhere
other than the Facebook page
570
00:20:52,719 --> 00:20:54,085
that you're friends with.
571
00:20:54,153 --> 00:20:58,456
- Well, I mean, that's kind of
an answer in itself,
572
00:20:58,524 --> 00:21:00,625
personally, you know?
573
00:21:00,693 --> 00:21:05,196
- ♪ I only lie when I wish
it was the truth ♪
574
00:21:05,265 --> 00:21:06,964
- I know that it's, like,
575
00:21:07,033 --> 00:21:09,000
a violation when this kind
of thing happens,
576
00:21:09,068 --> 00:21:10,534
and then the fact that, like--
577
00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:12,003
- It's exactly how I feel.
578
00:21:12,071 --> 00:21:15,039
- Right. You guys were
sharing conversations.
579
00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:17,708
You're sharing something
personal with someone else,
580
00:21:17,777 --> 00:21:20,044
not just words but, like,
581
00:21:20,113 --> 00:21:23,347
physical photos of yourself.
582
00:21:23,416 --> 00:21:28,919
- I fantasize that all
my dreams come true ♪
583
00:21:28,988 --> 00:21:32,523
- That--that hurts.
It's been a [bleep] long time.
584
00:21:32,592 --> 00:21:34,058
Like, what are you doing?
585
00:21:34,127 --> 00:21:37,094
- I think that the most [bleep]
up part about it to me
586
00:21:37,163 --> 00:21:40,431
is the fact that this person
went to the extent
587
00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:43,034
of pretending like
they were showing up.
588
00:21:43,102 --> 00:21:44,435
This is not [bleep] okay.
589
00:21:44,504 --> 00:21:47,204
- Yeah.
- Yeah, you know, I was hopeful
590
00:21:47,273 --> 00:21:48,839
that it was something,
you know,
591
00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:52,176
legit
and something I could pursue,
592
00:21:52,245 --> 00:21:56,147
but this is just
some sick fantasy play out.
593
00:21:56,215 --> 00:21:58,516
- Right.
- It's embarrassing.
594
00:21:58,584 --> 00:22:01,886
This is just their weird kink.
I don't know.
595
00:22:01,954 --> 00:22:03,454
It's not okay at all.
596
00:22:03,523 --> 00:22:07,858
- ♪ I miss you but you
do not miss me back ♪
597
00:22:08,728 --> 00:22:10,194
- It's been a long time.
598
00:22:10,263 --> 00:22:11,228
Like, what are you doing?
599
00:22:11,297 --> 00:22:13,798
It's disrespectful. It's weird.
600
00:22:13,866 --> 00:22:15,299
- Yeah.
- I don't know.
601
00:22:15,368 --> 00:22:18,135
I'm still interested in
finding out who it really is.
602
00:22:18,204 --> 00:22:19,737
You know, I'd like to know.
603
00:22:19,806 --> 00:22:21,972
- Right.
604
00:22:22,041 --> 00:22:23,374
Yeah. All right.
So let's just finish
605
00:22:23,443 --> 00:22:24,475
showing you
what we found,
606
00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:25,876
'cause there's only a
little bit more.
607
00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:27,378
So then we thought,
"Okay, let's go look through
608
00:22:27,447 --> 00:22:29,513
Lianna's Facebook page."
609
00:22:29,582 --> 00:22:31,248
So, you know,
we just sort of started
610
00:22:31,317 --> 00:22:32,483
going through the comments,
611
00:22:32,552 --> 00:22:34,118
and obviously
it's mostly guys.
612
00:22:34,187 --> 00:22:37,288
Some of them feel flirty.
613
00:22:37,357 --> 00:22:39,123
We also went to Maria's page,
614
00:22:39,192 --> 00:22:41,058
and it has a sort of
similar vibe:
615
00:22:41,127 --> 00:22:44,795
cute profile pictures, lots of
comments from mostly guys.
616
00:22:44,864 --> 00:22:46,864
So we sent some messages
to some of those guys
617
00:22:46,933 --> 00:22:48,399
just in the hopes
that we might get to
618
00:22:48,468 --> 00:22:52,570
talk to some of them,
and one of them got back to us,
619
00:22:52,638 --> 00:22:54,004
but he basically just said,
like,
620
00:22:54,073 --> 00:22:55,806
"Yeah, I've seen your show.
What's up?"
621
00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:58,642
And so I messaged him back
asking if maybe he could talk,
622
00:22:58,711 --> 00:23:01,112
but obviously I haven't
heard back yet,
623
00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:04,849
and so that's kind of
where we left it.
624
00:23:04,917 --> 00:23:06,584
- We just hit up
all those guys,
625
00:23:06,652 --> 00:23:08,285
but we never hit up Maria.
626
00:23:08,354 --> 00:23:09,553
- Oh, that's true.
627
00:23:09,622 --> 00:23:11,789
Maybe we should try
reaching out to Maria.
628
00:23:11,858 --> 00:23:15,493
- But assuming Maria and Lianna
are the same,
629
00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:16,694
and then we could be
tipping off.
630
00:23:16,763 --> 00:23:18,596
- Wait. Hold on a second.
Time-out. Time-out.
631
00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:21,599
I'm getting a phone call
from Florida.
632
00:23:21,667 --> 00:23:23,701
- Oh, not a good sign.
- Well...
633
00:23:23,770 --> 00:23:25,469
- Right off the bat.
- Hello.
634
00:23:25,538 --> 00:23:28,172
- Hey, it's Daniel.
- Daniel?
635
00:23:28,241 --> 00:23:30,775
- Off of Facebook.
- Do you go by Danny Brooklyn?
636
00:23:30,843 --> 00:23:32,710
- Yes, I do.
I do go by Danny Brooklyn.
637
00:23:32,779 --> 00:23:35,679
- Aha. So are you able
to join a Zoom call?
638
00:23:35,748 --> 00:23:37,081
- Yes, sir.
- All right. Great.
639
00:23:37,150 --> 00:23:38,749
I'll send you
just a link right now. Okay?
640
00:23:38,818 --> 00:23:43,220
- Sounds good.
- Okay. Sent.
641
00:23:43,289 --> 00:23:44,789
Hey, Daniel.
- Oh.
642
00:23:44,857 --> 00:23:46,624
- Hey, how's it going?
- Quick introductions.
643
00:23:46,692 --> 00:23:51,095
So Kamie over here,
and this is Eric.
644
00:23:51,164 --> 00:23:53,664
- Eric, what's up, man?
- And we reached out to you
645
00:23:53,733 --> 00:23:55,199
because we saw
that you were friends with
646
00:23:55,268 --> 00:23:58,669
and had commented on
some of Maria's Facebook posts,
647
00:23:58,738 --> 00:24:00,237
and we're curious
what you knew about her.
648
00:24:00,306 --> 00:24:04,775
- Yeah, so, she had added me
as a friend on Facebook.
649
00:24:04,844 --> 00:24:06,444
You know, we ended up
starting to talk,
650
00:24:06,512 --> 00:24:08,045
and we kicked it off,
651
00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:10,314
and it was, like,
endless nights,
652
00:24:10,383 --> 00:24:12,983
you know, 7, 8 hours
on the phone every day.
653
00:24:13,052 --> 00:24:16,854
So we eventually got
to the point where we wanted
654
00:24:16,923 --> 00:24:19,723
to meet each other,
and we go ahead and meet up.
655
00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:22,426
"Oh, I'm on my way.
I'm 5 minutes away.
656
00:24:22,495 --> 00:24:24,061
I'll be there in 2 minutes,"
657
00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:26,497
and then everything
is blocked.
658
00:24:26,566 --> 00:24:29,600
- And when you talked, did she
ever mention her friend Lianna?
659
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:32,670
- Oh, yeah.
660
00:24:32,738 --> 00:24:34,004
- I've been talking to Lianna
661
00:24:34,073 --> 00:24:37,274
and pretty much the same
exact story you just said.
662
00:24:37,343 --> 00:24:38,843
She stood me up a couple times.
663
00:24:38,911 --> 00:24:42,746
Then Maria got involved.
664
00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:44,148
They talked me
into trying to chill
665
00:24:44,217 --> 00:24:45,950
with both of them
it was supposed to be.
666
00:24:46,018 --> 00:24:48,752
- Wow.
Where are you from, Eric?
667
00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:50,154
-Buffalo, New York.
668
00:24:50,223 --> 00:24:54,325
- That's where Maria is from.
- Ha!
669
00:24:54,393 --> 00:24:55,726
- Yeah.
[laughs]
670
00:24:55,795 --> 00:24:57,261
- You know,
it kind of hurt me.
671
00:24:57,330 --> 00:24:59,663
I was so,
so excited to see this person,
672
00:24:59,732 --> 00:25:02,733
and out of the blue,
this girl
673
00:25:02,802 --> 00:25:04,835
Tracey messaged me on Facebook
674
00:25:04,904 --> 00:25:07,805
stating that she was actually
675
00:25:07,874 --> 00:25:11,509
behind the profile of Maria.
676
00:25:11,577 --> 00:25:12,910
- Tracey?
- Yeah.
677
00:25:12,979 --> 00:25:15,412
- Not someone named
Lianna or Kalynn?
678
00:25:15,481 --> 00:25:16,514
- Nope.
679
00:25:16,582 --> 00:25:18,415
- Who the hell is Tracey?
680
00:25:18,484 --> 00:25:21,252
- Have you ever video chatted
with Tracey?
681
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,888
- I mean, I've tried video
chatting with Tracey,
682
00:25:23,956 --> 00:25:26,056
but she's never
actually showed her face,
683
00:25:26,125 --> 00:25:29,960
and Tracey, she was like,
684
00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:31,328
"You know,
I have a lot of money.
685
00:25:31,397 --> 00:25:32,763
"I came into a lot of money.
686
00:25:32,832 --> 00:25:34,532
"Please let me take you out.
687
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,833
Let me buy you a house.
688
00:25:35,902 --> 00:25:37,935
me buy you a car..." and...
- Huh?
689
00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:42,706
- Weird.
690
00:25:42,775 --> 00:25:44,375
- This doesn't, like--
I mean--
691
00:25:44,443 --> 00:25:45,776
- So you mean, so Tracey said
692
00:25:45,845 --> 00:25:47,678
she is the one
that was pretending to be Maria
693
00:25:47,747 --> 00:25:49,747
and that she felt badly
that she had lied to you
694
00:25:49,815 --> 00:25:51,148
and that she had
all this money,
695
00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:52,783
and she wanted to sort of
make it up to you.
696
00:25:52,852 --> 00:25:55,119
- Exactly. I said,
"If you want to get together,
697
00:25:55,187 --> 00:25:58,989
let's get together,"
and again ghost.
698
00:25:59,058 --> 00:26:00,491
You know, it really hurt,
699
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,861
all this ghosting
and playing games,
700
00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:05,763
and it's like mind games.
701
00:26:05,831 --> 00:26:06,864
It's not fair to me.
702
00:26:06,933 --> 00:26:10,134
It's not fair to me
or anybody else.
703
00:26:11,304 --> 00:26:13,370
- You know,
I really want to know,
704
00:26:13,439 --> 00:26:14,605
what do you get out of this?
705
00:26:14,674 --> 00:26:16,874
Like, why do you do this?
706
00:26:16,943 --> 00:26:19,577
- You felt like you were making
this super meaningful
707
00:26:19,645 --> 00:26:20,911
connection
with this girl, Maria,
708
00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:22,246
and all the while,
it sounds like
709
00:26:22,315 --> 00:26:26,016
she was doing basically
the same thing with Eric.
710
00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:27,151
- Yeah.
711
00:26:27,219 --> 00:26:29,086
- The thing that bothers me
so much is,
712
00:26:29,155 --> 00:26:30,921
like,
even when you block her,
713
00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:32,923
then she comes at you
from someone else,
714
00:26:32,992 --> 00:26:34,091
and she starts
bothering you again.
715
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,526
It's, like...
- Yeah.
716
00:26:35,595 --> 00:26:36,927
- At what point
does it become--
717
00:26:36,996 --> 00:26:38,228
- Harassing. It's harassing.
718
00:26:38,297 --> 00:26:39,997
- Yeah.
- Even after you're like,
719
00:26:40,066 --> 00:26:41,398
"I don't really want
to talk to you,"
720
00:26:41,467 --> 00:26:42,733
she's like, "Oh, I have
a [bleep] ton of money.
721
00:26:42,802 --> 00:26:44,101
I can give you money."
722
00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:46,837
Like, how desperate
is this person
723
00:26:46,906 --> 00:26:49,707
for companionship
or friendship?
724
00:26:49,775 --> 00:26:52,209
How far are they willing
to go to get it?
725
00:26:52,278 --> 00:26:55,112
And, like,
are they even recognizing
726
00:26:55,181 --> 00:26:56,647
who they're hurting
in the process?
727
00:26:56,716 --> 00:26:58,182
- It's not fair.
- All right.
728
00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:01,151
Well, look, Danny, thank you
for sharing all this with us.
729
00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:03,854
If you could send us
Tracey's profile
730
00:27:03,923 --> 00:27:05,255
so that
we can reach out to her.
731
00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:06,490
- Of course.
- I need to see what
732
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,126
this girl looks like.
733
00:27:09,195 --> 00:27:11,028
- If you need anything else
from me, I'm here.
734
00:27:11,097 --> 00:27:12,863
- All right.
Really appreciate it.
735
00:27:12,932 --> 00:27:15,466
- Thanks, Danny.
736
00:27:15,534 --> 00:27:17,635
Bye.
What a sweetheart.
737
00:27:17,703 --> 00:27:19,770
- Wow. Well...
738
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:21,472
- Obviously, I wasn't special.
739
00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:23,607
- Makes you feel less alone
maybe, like, a little--
740
00:27:23,676 --> 00:27:24,842
- Yeah.
741
00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:26,110
- Yeah, so what do you
want to do, Eric?
742
00:27:26,178 --> 00:27:27,645
- Well, what's the next move,
743
00:27:27,713 --> 00:27:30,581
try and contact Tracey
or Lianna?
744
00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:32,516
- Yeah. I think we've got
to talk to Tracey
745
00:27:32,585 --> 00:27:34,451
or whatever her real name is,
746
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,955
because she's at the eye of the
storm of this whole situation.
747
00:27:38,024 --> 00:27:40,491
- Well, knock, knock,
Tracey, open up.
748
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:42,259
- So I'm just waiting for him
to send that profile,
749
00:27:42,328 --> 00:27:44,361
because then
we can message her.
750
00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:45,562
- Oh, God.
751
00:27:45,631 --> 00:27:47,464
I mean, who knows
how many other guys
752
00:27:48,501 --> 00:27:50,134
This could potentially
she'be blowing upg to.
753
00:27:50,202 --> 00:27:51,935
her whole entire operation.
754
00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:53,671
- Let's see. Hold on.
Maybe he texted me here.
755
00:27:53,739 --> 00:27:55,039
Oh, yeah, you know what?
756
00:27:55,107 --> 00:27:57,241
- Oh.
- He did text me.
757
00:27:57,309 --> 00:27:58,609
Oh, there we go.
758
00:27:58,678 --> 00:28:00,044
- Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
759
00:28:00,112 --> 00:28:02,813
- He wrote, "I swear
this was here last week.
760
00:28:02,882 --> 00:28:04,882
"I think she deleted
her profile.
761
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:06,283
This is what comes up now!"
762
00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:07,985
- Wait, what?
763
00:28:08,054 --> 00:28:10,521
The Tracey profile is gone.
764
00:28:10,589 --> 00:28:11,789
What the [bleep]?
765
00:28:11,857 --> 00:28:14,792
[tense music]
766
00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:16,827
♪ ♪
767
00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:20,764
- So the Tracey profile
is gone.
768
00:28:20,833 --> 00:28:22,132
What the [bleep]?
769
00:28:22,201 --> 00:28:23,634
- What?
770
00:28:23,703 --> 00:28:25,736
- So maybe she blocked him.
771
00:28:25,805 --> 00:28:29,106
Maybe the page still exists;
he just can't see it.
772
00:28:29,175 --> 00:28:31,108
- I mean, look,
the reality here is,
773
00:28:31,177 --> 00:28:33,877
JUST because Lianna came clean
to Danny as Tracey
774
00:28:33,946 --> 00:28:35,879
doesn't mean that
her real name is Tracey.
775
00:28:35,948 --> 00:28:37,848
- Yeah.
- Maybe she just has that
776
00:28:37,917 --> 00:28:38,982
as another fake profile
777
00:28:39,051 --> 00:28:40,984
so that she can come clean
to guys
778
00:28:41,053 --> 00:28:43,821
without the fear of them
actually tracking her down
779
00:28:43,889 --> 00:28:48,192
and, you know, doing something
or about, to her or--
780
00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:51,161
- Right.
But if her name is Tracey,
781
00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:52,996
none of this explains
782
00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:56,500
the Kayala [bleep]
783
00:28:56,569 --> 00:28:58,669
and then the Kalynn profile.
784
00:28:58,738 --> 00:29:01,972
Is that all just not related?
785
00:29:02,041 --> 00:29:03,540
- I don't know. I mean,
the only person who can answer
786
00:29:03,609 --> 00:29:06,310
that is Tracey, I guess.
787
00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:08,178
- [sighs]
788
00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:10,714
- We still have a phone number
we can reach her through.
789
00:29:10,783 --> 00:29:12,249
I mean, we know it's her,
so we might as well
790
00:29:12,318 --> 00:29:16,353
just text the number
you have for Lianna, right?
791
00:29:16,422 --> 00:29:18,388
- Yeah.
792
00:29:18,457 --> 00:29:22,593
- So I'm going to send her
another message now.
793
00:29:22,661 --> 00:29:24,962
All right. I texted her.
Let's see.
794
00:29:25,030 --> 00:29:27,331
Okay. So she has her
read receipts on,
795
00:29:27,399 --> 00:29:28,899
so these have
both been delivered,
796
00:29:28,968 --> 00:29:31,235
but neither of them
has been read.
797
00:29:31,303 --> 00:29:32,603
- Share the screen.
798
00:29:32,671 --> 00:29:35,105
- Right.
799
00:29:35,174 --> 00:29:37,241
Oh.
- Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
800
00:29:37,309 --> 00:29:38,342
- She's typing.
801
00:29:42,581 --> 00:29:44,848
Hold on.
She must have stopped typing,
802
00:29:44,917 --> 00:29:47,918
and now she's considering
an edit perhaps
803
00:29:47,987 --> 00:29:50,120
or whether
she's going to send it.
804
00:29:50,189 --> 00:29:53,290
- Or a lie.
- Or blocking you.
805
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:56,193
- Right, or she's going
to block me.
806
00:29:56,262 --> 00:29:59,096
Tracey?
807
00:29:59,165 --> 00:30:03,167
- Oh, yeah, 'cause she doesn't
know that we know her name.
808
00:30:05,971 --> 00:30:08,071
- Ooh.
- I mean, I don't--
809
00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:09,339
we don't even know
if that's her name.
810
00:30:09,408 --> 00:30:10,407
- Right.
811
00:30:10,476 --> 00:30:12,176
[tense music]
812
00:30:12,244 --> 00:30:13,510
I feel like
the next message you send,
813
00:30:13,579 --> 00:30:14,778
it's going to be green.
814
00:30:14,847 --> 00:30:16,580
She's going to block.
815
00:30:16,649 --> 00:30:19,316
♪ ♪
816
00:30:19,385 --> 00:30:20,684
- Oh, she saw it.
- Ooh.
817
00:30:20,753 --> 00:30:23,153
♪ ♪
818
00:30:23,222 --> 00:30:26,156
[gasps]
819
00:30:26,225 --> 00:30:33,363
♪ ♪
820
00:30:34,133 --> 00:30:35,933
- "I'm shocked he wants
to meet me
821
00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:39,369
when I thought
all he wanted was hookups."
822
00:30:39,438 --> 00:30:43,207
- You know,
what kind of game is that?
823
00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:46,310
- "You know that's BS."
824
00:30:46,378 --> 00:30:49,713
♪ ♪
825
00:30:49,782 --> 00:30:52,382
I'm not going to play
her game.
826
00:30:52,451 --> 00:30:53,450
- You tell her, Nev.
827
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,619
- Well, also, that's the act.
828
00:30:55,688 --> 00:30:59,189
She's posing as a young,
attractive woman
829
00:30:59,258 --> 00:31:02,793
and flirting and engaging
in sexual conversations.
830
00:31:02,862 --> 00:31:04,828
She can't be surprised that,
831
00:31:04,897 --> 00:31:06,563
yeah, of course
you want to have sex with her.
832
00:31:06,632 --> 00:31:09,833
That's been her--
833
00:31:09,902 --> 00:31:11,201
- Angle.
- Yeah.
834
00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:12,569
- Right.
835
00:31:12,638 --> 00:31:18,575
- "Okay, well,
I guess you don't care..."
836
00:31:18,644 --> 00:31:20,911
- Ultimatum time.
837
00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:24,348
- "About Eric or anything,
838
00:31:24,416 --> 00:31:25,916
so never mind."
839
00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:29,786
- I--I feel like maybe if you
sent the link in there
840
00:31:29,855 --> 00:31:31,288
after the never mind part,
841
00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:35,359
maybe she'll read that
and maybe, you know?
842
00:31:35,427 --> 00:31:37,094
- How about just like,
"Last chance."
843
00:31:37,162 --> 00:31:38,929
- Mm.
844
00:31:38,998 --> 00:31:40,230
- And then I'll put the link.
845
00:31:40,299 --> 00:31:43,233
- Eric, are you ready
to talk to this girl?
846
00:31:43,302 --> 00:31:44,668
- Yeah.
847
00:31:44,737 --> 00:31:47,237
- You're going to have to lay
down the law and tell her
848
00:31:47,306 --> 00:31:49,640
what you expect
from this moment forward.
849
00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:50,908
- Okay.
850
00:31:50,976 --> 00:31:53,443
- All right, sent.
851
00:31:53,512 --> 00:31:56,013
- She has to read it
to get to the link, right?
852
00:31:56,081 --> 00:31:57,514
- Right. So if she reads it,
853
00:31:57,583 --> 00:32:00,384
then either
she starts typing or--
854
00:32:00,452 --> 00:32:01,451
- Oh, my God, she read it.
855
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,620
- Okay. She read it.
856
00:32:03,689 --> 00:32:07,858
♪ ♪
857
00:32:07,927 --> 00:32:09,259
Uh!
- Here she comes.
858
00:32:09,328 --> 00:32:10,761
- Ooh...
859
00:32:10,829 --> 00:32:12,596
♪ ♪
860
00:32:12,665 --> 00:32:14,531
Come on. Come on.
861
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,565
[computer chimes]
862
00:32:15,634 --> 00:32:15,899
- Oh.
863
00:32:18,504 --> 00:32:19,836
[computer chimes]
Uh!
864
00:32:19,905 --> 00:32:20,771
- Here she comes.
865
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:22,472
- Ooh...
866
00:32:22,541 --> 00:32:24,107
♪ ♪
867
00:32:24,176 --> 00:32:26,109
Come on. Come on.
868
00:32:26,178 --> 00:32:28,946
[computer chimes]
- Oh.
869
00:32:29,014 --> 00:32:31,682
- Hello.
- Hello.
870
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:34,952
- Hi.
- Hi.
871
00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:38,822
- Hi. You're not the girl
in the pictures,
872
00:32:38,891 --> 00:32:40,857
and you're not Kalynn.
873
00:32:40,926 --> 00:32:41,959
- No.
874
00:32:42,027 --> 00:32:44,394
♪ ♪
875
00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:46,496
- So you don't know a Kalynn?
876
00:32:46,565 --> 00:32:49,299
'Cause your phone number
traces back to her.
877
00:32:49,368 --> 00:32:51,201
- No.
878
00:32:51,270 --> 00:32:53,670
- Then is your name Tracey?
879
00:32:53,739 --> 00:32:56,740
- Yes.
880
00:32:56,809 --> 00:32:58,208
- Is that your real name?
881
00:32:58,277 --> 00:33:00,577
- Yes.
- And it's been you talking
882
00:33:00,646 --> 00:33:03,347
to Eric this whole time?
883
00:33:03,415 --> 00:33:05,983
- Yes.
884
00:33:06,051 --> 00:33:08,218
I made the account,
885
00:33:08,287 --> 00:33:10,087
like, the beginning
of the pandemic.
886
00:33:10,155 --> 00:33:11,555
I was bored.
887
00:33:11,623 --> 00:33:13,924
I wanted people to talk to,
but I wasn't--
888
00:33:13,993 --> 00:33:17,260
like, I'm not somebody that was
really trying to scam anybody
889
00:33:17,329 --> 00:33:19,629
because I really did feel bad,
you know?
890
00:33:19,698 --> 00:33:21,832
- Which account
are you referring to?
891
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:24,368
- See, the Lianna account
was Eric,
892
00:33:24,436 --> 00:33:28,905
but I ended up switching
to the Maria account,
893
00:33:28,974 --> 00:33:31,742
because the Lianna account
got too many--
894
00:33:31,810 --> 00:33:33,010
too many requests.
895
00:33:33,078 --> 00:33:34,778
I was getting, like,
400 requests a day.
896
00:33:34,847 --> 00:33:36,446
♪ ♪
897
00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:39,416
- And those are the only
accounts that you have?
898
00:33:39,485 --> 00:33:41,551
- Yes.
899
00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:43,920
- That's rude.
900
00:33:43,989 --> 00:33:45,789
- Well, look, obviously we
don't really know
901
00:33:45,858 --> 00:33:47,090
anything about you,
902
00:33:47,159 --> 00:33:48,525
so can you just tell us
a little bit about
903
00:33:48,594 --> 00:33:50,227
who you actually are.
904
00:33:50,295 --> 00:33:52,095
- My name is Tracey.
I live in New Hampshire.
905
00:33:52,164 --> 00:33:55,832
I am actually 42 years old.
906
00:33:55,901 --> 00:33:57,567
I don't know; I basically,
like, help take care
907
00:33:57,636 --> 00:34:00,337
of my handicapped uncle
with my mother and stuff,
908
00:34:00,406 --> 00:34:01,738
and my mom's sick too.
909
00:34:01,807 --> 00:34:03,040
She's got Crohn's disease,
910
00:34:03,108 --> 00:34:07,744
so I'm constantly
helping them.
911
00:34:07,813 --> 00:34:09,479
That is my life,
912
00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:13,016
so I think I was trying to give
myself a different life,
913
00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:14,951
which was obviously
not reality.
914
00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:16,186
- And you're single?
915
00:34:16,255 --> 00:34:18,221
You're not married or anything?
916
00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:19,356
- No.
- Children?
917
00:34:19,425 --> 00:34:20,724
- No.
918
00:34:20,793 --> 00:34:23,026
I can't have children.
919
00:34:23,095 --> 00:34:25,262
- Is that something
that you want?
920
00:34:25,330 --> 00:34:28,765
- I want it all,
but I'll never get that.
921
00:34:31,036 --> 00:34:32,569
- Why--
- Why do you say that?
922
00:34:32,638 --> 00:34:34,304
♪ ♪
923
00:34:34,373 --> 00:34:35,872
- Because I don't go out.
924
00:34:35,941 --> 00:34:39,676
I don't go out to even meet
somebody, and I don't know.
925
00:34:39,745 --> 00:34:41,278
Just I'm insecure.
926
00:34:41,346 --> 00:34:44,047
- Why keep doing things
to hurt him,
927
00:34:44,116 --> 00:34:45,749
like telling him you're going
to meet up with him
928
00:34:45,818 --> 00:34:47,784
and blowing him off
and then blocking him and...
929
00:34:47,853 --> 00:34:50,687
- Because I was being stupid,
because I really did want
930
00:34:50,756 --> 00:34:54,357
to see him,
but I couldn't see him as me.
931
00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:55,725
- Look, we already talked
to Danny,
932
00:34:55,794 --> 00:34:57,861
one of Maria's boyfriends,
933
00:34:57,930 --> 00:34:59,262
and Danny told us
the same thing.
934
00:34:59,331 --> 00:35:00,664
- Yes.
- "I'm coming down the street.
935
00:35:00,732 --> 00:35:02,732
I'm 5 minutes away.
I'm 2 minutes away."
936
00:35:02,801 --> 00:35:04,267
Why even bother with that
937
00:35:04,336 --> 00:35:07,637
if you know you're not
going to show up?
938
00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:08,939
- I don't know.
939
00:35:09,007 --> 00:35:10,173
- That is a game.
940
00:35:10,242 --> 00:35:12,976
That is 100% a game.
941
00:35:13,045 --> 00:35:17,581
- You're actively making plans
to see these guys in person
942
00:35:17,649 --> 00:35:19,382
and making it seem
like you were on your way.
943
00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:21,051
- Because that's all they want.
They want to see you,
944
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,853
and then it's like, I wanted
to keep them talking to me,
945
00:35:22,921 --> 00:35:25,789
so it's like, "Okay,
I will come see you."
946
00:35:25,858 --> 00:35:27,290
You know?
947
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:30,293
- But you know it's not going
to actually happen.
948
00:35:30,362 --> 00:35:32,129
- I know.
- So what is the end goal?
949
00:35:32,197 --> 00:35:34,531
Like, what do you expect
to get out of that?
950
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,366
- I don't know.
951
00:35:36,435 --> 00:35:38,735
I didn't--
I wanted to get rid of this--
952
00:35:38,804 --> 00:35:41,938
I wanted to get rid of it
so many times.
953
00:35:42,007 --> 00:35:45,008
I was getting myself
more upset and depressed
954
00:35:45,077 --> 00:35:47,377
even liking somebody,
because then I'm like, "Okay.
955
00:35:47,446 --> 00:35:49,579
Now I'm waiting all day
for somebody to call me"
956
00:35:50,616 --> 00:35:52,949
It was, like,
I'm more or less lonely.
957
00:35:53,018 --> 00:35:56,019
Then I ended up started
liking, like, especially Eric.
958
00:35:56,088 --> 00:35:57,487
I ended up liking him.
959
00:35:57,556 --> 00:36:01,091
And I was looking
for somebody to be with, like,
960
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,795
have that connection
and just vibes.
961
00:36:05,864 --> 00:36:08,064
- I'm sure you feel that way
right now,
962
00:36:08,133 --> 00:36:09,533
because it's all
in front of you,
963
00:36:09,601 --> 00:36:12,736
but, like, honestly,
I don't know
964
00:36:12,804 --> 00:36:15,238
heads from tails
of your stories,
965
00:36:15,307 --> 00:36:17,741
except for that it's all a lie.
966
00:36:17,809 --> 00:36:19,976
- Okay.
967
00:36:20,045 --> 00:36:22,979
- Even though you are seemingly
very self-aware
968
00:36:23,048 --> 00:36:24,414
about different
aspects of this,
969
00:36:24,483 --> 00:36:26,550
I think that there are
a lot of deeper issues
970
00:36:26,618 --> 00:36:28,618
that need to be
worked out internally.
971
00:36:28,687 --> 00:36:30,420
Like, woman to woman,
I just have a feeling
972
00:36:30,489 --> 00:36:33,823
that you've been
going through this
973
00:36:33,892 --> 00:36:38,728
and feeling this
for a really long time.
974
00:36:38,797 --> 00:36:41,731
We need to shave off
some of that insecure feeling,
975
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,168
because it's keeping you
from being able to make true,
976
00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:47,470
genuine relationships
977
00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:50,040
and even just
a relationship with yourself.
978
00:36:50,108 --> 00:36:51,641
- Yeah.
- Because how do you
979
00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:54,778
honestly feel
about yourself as a person?
980
00:36:54,846 --> 00:36:56,846
- [chuckles]
981
00:36:56,915 --> 00:36:58,481
Not that good.
982
00:36:58,550 --> 00:37:00,617
- Obviously, I'm upset,
983
00:37:00,686 --> 00:37:03,887
but, like, no one should
have to feel this bad
984
00:37:03,956 --> 00:37:07,190
about themselves
that they need to do this.
985
00:37:07,259 --> 00:37:11,194
- You say kind of a lot of
the right things about knowing
986
00:37:11,263 --> 00:37:12,729
that what you were doing
was wrong
987
00:37:12,798 --> 00:37:14,898
and feeling bad about it,
but at the same time,
988
00:37:14,967 --> 00:37:18,368
I don't think you really get
just how hurtful
989
00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:20,337
what you're doing is,
and Eric--
990
00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:23,340
- No, I do exactly know
how hurtful it is,
991
00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:25,408
because you're playing
with people's emotions.
992
00:37:25,477 --> 00:37:26,776
I understand that.
993
00:37:26,845 --> 00:37:28,812
- You told us you only had
two profiles,
994
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,347
but do you know
how many other people
995
00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:33,783
you've been leading on
these past few months?
996
00:37:33,852 --> 00:37:35,185
- I don't know.
997
00:37:35,254 --> 00:37:37,287
- Well, what you could do is,
998
00:37:37,356 --> 00:37:41,024
you could post on each
of the profiles and say,
999
00:37:41,093 --> 00:37:43,827
"This is who I am. I've been
lying this entire time.
1000
00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:45,295
I'm sorry, and I apologize,"
1001
00:37:45,364 --> 00:37:47,330
so that way you can
apologize to everyone.
1002
00:37:47,399 --> 00:37:50,367
- I was just going
to deactivate, but...
1003
00:37:50,435 --> 00:37:52,035
- You're putting yourself
out there,
1004
00:37:52,104 --> 00:37:53,236
but that's the point.
1005
00:37:53,305 --> 00:37:54,638
You need
to give everybody involved
1006
00:37:54,706 --> 00:37:58,275
or affected by your lies
the courtesy of the truth,
1007
00:37:58,343 --> 00:38:01,044
and putting yourself
in a position to,
1008
00:38:01,113 --> 00:38:02,579
you know,
reap what you sow
1009
00:38:02,648 --> 00:38:06,049
and be accountable is part
of building up your confidence.
1010
00:38:06,118 --> 00:38:07,851
- You want me to do it
right now?
1011
00:38:07,919 --> 00:38:09,252
- Yeah, let's do it. Right now.
- Yeah.
1012
00:38:09,321 --> 00:38:10,520
- Let's just pull
that Band-Aid off.
1013
00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:11,588
- You want to make a change.
1014
00:38:11,657 --> 00:38:13,623
- All right.
- Okay. Here we go.
1015
00:38:13,692 --> 00:38:15,292
- Okay, so--
- I'm in Maria.
1016
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,826
- All right.
You're on Maria now.
1017
00:38:16,895 --> 00:38:20,730
Okay. So go to her profile.
- Okay.
1018
00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:23,466
- And there we go.
1019
00:38:23,535 --> 00:38:26,436
[tense music]
1020
00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:28,238
♪ ♪
1021
00:38:28,307 --> 00:38:30,173
- All right. Posted that one.
1022
00:38:30,242 --> 00:38:31,875
♪ ♪
1023
00:38:31,943 --> 00:38:34,611
- And now Lianna's
Facebook page.
1024
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,048
- Come on, Tracey.
You can do this, girl.
1025
00:38:38,116 --> 00:38:40,917
- "I will no longer be using
this account." Perfect.
1026
00:38:40,986 --> 00:38:44,254
♪ ♪
1027
00:38:44,323 --> 00:38:45,755
- All right.
1028
00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:46,890
- Okay, great.
1029
00:38:46,958 --> 00:38:50,293
- Yeah.
1030
00:38:50,362 --> 00:38:51,795
- How did that feel?
1031
00:38:51,863 --> 00:38:54,564
- It felt good.
1032
00:38:54,633 --> 00:38:56,132
- All right.
Well, that's a good start.
1033
00:38:56,201 --> 00:38:59,169
You know, I don't think
you seem like a bad person.
1034
00:38:59,237 --> 00:39:00,770
Sure, you've made
some bad decisions.
1035
00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:03,206
I think most of us
can say the same.
1036
00:39:03,275 --> 00:39:04,941
I know I feel better
1037
00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:07,911
knowing that you've done
that on those pages.
1038
00:39:07,979 --> 00:39:10,013
Obviously, I'm happy
that Eric now knows the truth,
1039
00:39:10,082 --> 00:39:12,882
and I'm hoping that you
1040
00:39:12,951 --> 00:39:15,285
won't continue doing
this sort of thing,
1041
00:39:15,354 --> 00:39:17,387
and you'll learn
from this and grow.
1042
00:39:17,456 --> 00:39:21,658
- Mm-hmm.
I'm sorry, Eric.
1043
00:39:21,727 --> 00:39:24,094
- Thank you.
1044
00:39:24,162 --> 00:39:25,729
It wasn't all bad.
1045
00:39:25,797 --> 00:39:27,697
You know,
we had some good talks.
1046
00:39:27,766 --> 00:39:30,500
You know,
we had a little fun.
1047
00:39:30,569 --> 00:39:32,836
I'm glad I could be there
for you
1048
00:39:32,904 --> 00:39:35,305
in whatever twisted way
you needed,
1049
00:39:35,374 --> 00:39:38,675
but it wasn't okay to do,
though.
1050
00:39:38,744 --> 00:39:40,276
- I know.
1051
00:39:40,345 --> 00:39:42,445
- You've done the right thing.
1052
00:39:42,514 --> 00:39:43,813
You did the right thing
by coming here.
1053
00:39:43,882 --> 00:39:46,349
You did the right thing
by making those posts
1054
00:39:46,418 --> 00:39:48,785
and being honest,
and I think
1055
00:39:48,854 --> 00:39:52,756
that this is going to be
a really freeing experience
1056
00:39:52,824 --> 00:39:56,192
for you moving forward,
and I'm happy for that.
1057
00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:57,494
- Thank you.
1058
00:39:57,562 --> 00:39:59,162
- Good luck, Tracey.
1059
00:39:59,231 --> 00:40:02,098
- Bye. Thank you.
- Bye.
1060
00:40:02,167 --> 00:40:05,502
- Bye.
1061
00:40:05,570 --> 00:40:07,270
- [exhales]
1062
00:40:07,339 --> 00:40:09,339
- So, you know,
1063
00:40:09,408 --> 00:40:11,674
I'm happy
that this was a platform
1064
00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:16,212
for her to stop what--
you know, all this.
1065
00:40:16,281 --> 00:40:18,782
- All right. Well, look, man,
1066
00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:20,183
thanks for letting us
help you out,
1067
00:40:20,252 --> 00:40:22,952
and good luck in hopefully
your next relationship,
1068
00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:26,423
which be with a real person
who treats you well.
1069
00:40:26,491 --> 00:40:28,224
- A baddy in Buffalo.
1070
00:40:28,293 --> 00:40:30,994
- Oh, yeah.
- [laughs]
1071
00:40:31,062 --> 00:40:32,295
- [laughs]
1072
00:40:32,364 --> 00:40:33,463
All right.
Thank you, guys.
1073
00:40:33,532 --> 00:40:35,665
- Bye.
- Bye.
1074
00:40:35,734 --> 00:40:39,335
- ♪ Do you ever feel ♪
1075
00:40:39,404 --> 00:40:42,739
♪ Like it's all mine? ♪
1076
00:40:42,808 --> 00:40:46,743
♪ Will you ever feel ♪
1077
00:40:46,812 --> 00:40:50,113
♪ Like it's all fine? ♪
1078
00:40:50,182 --> 00:40:52,515
♪ ♪
1079
00:40:53,919 --> 00:40:55,785
- Scuba meets Renee
on a virtual social network.
[funky electronic mu
1080
00:40:55,854 --> 00:40:58,888
- She was the love of my life,
but then one day, it was gone.
1081
00:40:58,957 --> 00:41:01,324
- She's thought about you.
She found you again.
1082
00:41:01,393 --> 00:41:02,725
Like, she wants
to be in your life.
1083
00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:04,794
- [gasps]
Shut the [bleep] up.
1084
00:41:04,863 --> 00:41:07,397
- Wow. That almost makes
the case that Renee is legit.
1085
00:41:07,466 --> 00:41:08,631
- I'm at the edge of my seat
right now.
1086
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:09,999
[computer chimes]
1087
00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:11,634
- Oh.
- Oh.