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- Six years ago,
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Scooba meets Renae
on a virtual social network.
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- She was the love of my life,
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but then one day she was gone.
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- She thought about you,
she found you again, like,
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she wants to be in your life.
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- [gasps]
Shut the [bleep] up.
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- Wow, that almost makes
the case that Renae is legit.
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- I'm very much at the edge
of my seat right now.
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[dings]
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[dramatic music]
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[upbeat music]
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♪ ♪
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- Let's text Kamie.
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"Wassup?"
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- Oh, hey.
- What's up?
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- What are those balloons
back there?
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- My birthday balloons.
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- It's your birthday?
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Oh, my God, I had no idea.
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- Stop.
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- If I would've known,
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I would've had something
sent to you
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that's behind you
that you have to go get.
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- Really?
- Yes.
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- There's nothing in here.
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- Look outside.
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- [grunts]
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- Let me get dressed.
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- I found something.
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[horn blows]
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Hey!
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- Happy birthday!
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- Ay!
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- But wait, there's more.
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- Wow, look at this.
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all: ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
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♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
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[cheering]
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- Thank you!
[horns blowing]
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all: Happy birthday, Nev!
- I love you guys.
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[horns blowing]
- Wow.
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That was fun.
Thank you.
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- Party's over.
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- Thanks for helping
make my birthday great.
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Now that we've celebrated,
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I think we should get to work.
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Here we go.
We got an email from Stephen.
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"Dear Nev and Kamie,
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"my name is Stephen,
or as my friends call me,
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"Scooba.
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"I'm 23 years old,
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"and I live about an hour
outside of Chicago.
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"I'm a groundskeeper
at a golf course
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"and also take care of my mom.
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"Six years ago,
I met a girl named Renae
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"on IMVU.
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We suddenly clicked
and began dating."
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- ♪ And I just want you
to know ♪
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- IMVU is like a game, right?
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- It's more like
a virtual world.
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- ♪ And then I look up
at the moon ♪
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- "Renae lived in England,
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"and we couldn't meet
in person,
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"but it didn't faze me.
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"She understood me
and my views on life
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"in a way that
no one else seemed to.
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I fell in love with her."
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- ♪ I love you, I love you,
I love you, I love you ♪
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♪ I love you ♪
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♪ ♪
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- "Everything had
been going well,
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"but about eight months
after we met,
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Renae ghosted me."
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- ♪ I'm alone, nothing
happening on my phone ♪
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- "I messaged her for weeks.
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"I was heartbroken,
but after five years,
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suddenly, I got a message
from her."
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- ♪ And for a minute,
I was feeling so stupid ♪
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- "She said she wanted
to get back in touch..."
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- ♪ I reached into my heart ♪
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♪ Pulled out an arrow
from Cupid ♪
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- "But we haven't talked
or video chatted.
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"That being said,
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"I still feel
a connection to her.
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"I'd love your help
getting to the bottom of this.
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Thank you, Scooba."
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Wow.
Let me text him.
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For Renae to not talk to him
for five years
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and then reconnect
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and still be lying again now?
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It almost makes the case
that Renae is legit.
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- Kind of,
but it's super weird.
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[dings]
- Oh.
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Whoa!
- Hello!
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- Hello, Scooba Steve.
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[laughter]
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- How did you get the nickname
Scooba?
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- A few years ago,
I used to work at a tire shop,
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and they had three Steves
working there,
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and an employee just shouted,
"Call him Scooba."
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[laughter]
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- So let's talk about this
a little bit.
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Very curious about this Renae.
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Take us back to, like,
how you guys met.
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- I was on IMVU.
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I was just combing through
different group chats.
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Then I just joined in,
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and Renae and I kinda clicked.
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We were the same age
at the time, 17.
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And then we continued it
from there.
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- But you didn't know
what she looked like, right?
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Because you only saw
her little digital avatar.
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- Yeah.
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- Did you guys only ever talk
through IMVU?
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- No, eventually
we moved over to Kik.
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- You could send photos
on Kik, right?
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- Right.
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- So you have seen photos
of her?
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- Yes.
I thought she was beautiful.
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- And when you guys
were talking,
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were you guys getting into,
like, real deep stuff or...
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- At the time, yes.
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I mean, "What do you wanna do
with your life?
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Where do you see yourself
in ten years?"
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Basic teenager stuff.
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At that time,
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it was also very stressful.
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Let's just say...
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I haven't had the best
father figures in my life,
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and that was something that
we very much connected with.
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- And you also mentioned
that you take care of your mom.
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Were you dealing with that
back then?
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- Yes.
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She is disabled,
and I am her medical aide.
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So the escapism
talking to Renae
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was kind of nice.
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In my mind, I was away
from home with that.
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We were very much
in a relationship.
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- Do you ever talk
on the phone?
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- Well, no.
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- So you've never heard
her voice?
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- Nope.
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Like, I tried
to get her on Skype,
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and it was very much excuses,
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but I kinda
just shrugged it off
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because it was still
a consistent communication.
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- Hmm.
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- But for a while,
she was your girlfriend?
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So how did it end?
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- I ended up talking
with her brother.
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The conversation was just
fairly simple brotherly,
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"Don't hurt my sister" stuff.
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But then one day,
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there was supposedly
an argument happening,
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and her dad got on
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and started mocking me,
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mocking the idea
of the relationship.
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It was very unsettling to me.
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- How does a dad
know how to use Kik?
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[dramatic music]
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- After that night happened,
she was gone.
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- She stops responding
to your messages?
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Wow.
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And in IMVU?
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- Never online again.
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- So that was it?
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You just stopped
hearing from her.
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- Just gone.
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- What was that like to feel
like you had this girlfriend
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that you were in love with--
- Oh, it sucked.
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100% sucked.
It hurt a lot.
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I tried for a few months
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to try and see
if I could get something.
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Facebook, Instagram,
another account,
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but I couldn't find her.
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- She just totally vanished?
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- And then I lived my life
and moved on.
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- And then six years go by,
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and you just get
a random message?
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- Yeah.
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Just, "Hi, this is me.
It's been a while."
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Blah blah blah blah blah.
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I mean, I was excited.
I mean, it was cool.
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I had no talked
to this person in years.
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- Had you thought about her?
- Yeah.
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I mean, she was
the love of my life.
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- Wow.
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So give us the update on Renae.
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So okay, so now she's 23.
What's her deal?
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- All I know is that
on her Facebook,
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it says she in Wolverhampton,
United Kingdom,
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and that is it.
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It's a barebones Facebook.
I'm her only friend.
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That extremely brings up
a red flag.
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- Weird.
What's her Facebook name?
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Is just Renae,
or does she have a last name?
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- She says that
it's Renae Savage.
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- Oh, no.
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No, Scooba.
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No, that's not a good sign,
honey.
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- I'd like to see the profile.
- We can do that.
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- All right, so here she is.
Okay.
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[investigative music]
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From Bushbury, Wolverhampton.
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You're her only friend.
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Has one picture.
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Tattoo on her finger,
nose ring.
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Is this girl you remember?
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- 100%, but she was a brunette.
- Oh, okay.
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- I mean, she's cute,
obviously.
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Do you have messages
that we can see?
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- I do.
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♪ ♪
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- "Well, first off,
I want to say
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"I'm deeply sorry,
like, genuinely.
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"I wanted to get in contact
with you after all these years
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"because I never forgot.
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"I felt bad
for basically everything,
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I never realized how much
my decisions would affect me."
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- "I tried to find you
back on Kik,
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"after the whole ordeal.
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"I messaged you once,
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but your account
was no longer active."
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So she's saying that
she was trying to find you.
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- Yeah.
- Allegedly.
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- Yeah, allegedly.
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- Do you still have
your Kik account?
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- Nope.
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- "Renae, you were
the love of my life.
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"I'm honestly so speechless
right now.
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I can't believe we're talking
to each other."
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- "So you truly missed me,"
she said.
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"I mean, we were young.
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We were, like, what?
17?"
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"Yeah, and?
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We were married
for two months."
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Did you guys get married
on IMVU?
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- Yeah, it's a thing
that you can pay for.
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- Oh, my God.
- Wow.
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I mean, I have to say, like,
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considering that you
haven't talked in six years,
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and you kinda just picked up
where you left off,
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you've gotta be excited.
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- I mean, I am,
but I'm also guarded.
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- Right.
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So all we have for this girl
is this Facebook profile.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Do you still have
your IMVU account?
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- No.
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- So you no longer have access
to Renae's profile then?
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- No.
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- We need
some more information.
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So I feel like we need you
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to kind of try
and get a little bit more info
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for us if we're gonna do
some research for you.
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Wait, is she online?
She's active right now.
258
00:08:48,662 --> 00:08:50,228
- Yeah.
- [gasps]
259
00:08:50,297 --> 00:08:51,663
- Do you wanna see
if she can chat right now?
260
00:08:51,732 --> 00:08:52,964
- I mean, I could try.
261
00:08:53,033 --> 00:08:54,432
- "All I really know about you
262
00:08:54,501 --> 00:08:56,167
"is that you live
somewhere in the UK.
263
00:08:56,236 --> 00:08:57,569
"What else can you tell me
about yourself?
264
00:08:57,638 --> 00:09:00,105
What's your number?
I'd love to hear your voice."
265
00:09:00,173 --> 00:09:02,607
We've never looked up
an English phone number.
266
00:09:02,676 --> 00:09:04,109
- No, we haven't.
Can we?
267
00:09:04,177 --> 00:09:05,810
- I don't even know.
Yeah, I'd be curious.
268
00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:07,212
- That's if we get it.
269
00:09:07,281 --> 00:09:09,047
- Come on.
270
00:09:09,116 --> 00:09:11,182
- Well, she read it.
- Oh, wait, she saw it.
271
00:09:11,251 --> 00:09:12,551
- Oh, my God,
oh, my God, oh, my God.
272
00:09:12,619 --> 00:09:14,386
She's typing.
273
00:09:14,454 --> 00:09:15,353
- Okay.
274
00:09:15,422 --> 00:09:17,889
[all groaning]
275
00:09:17,958 --> 00:09:19,758
- Come on.
That is just an excuse.
276
00:09:19,826 --> 00:09:20,959
- All right,
so let's let her work,
277
00:09:21,028 --> 00:09:22,794
and in the meantime,
278
00:09:22,863 --> 00:09:25,096
we've got this photo,
we've got her name.
279
00:09:25,165 --> 00:09:26,698
We can do
a little poking around,
280
00:09:26,767 --> 00:09:28,767
see if we find something.
- Right.
281
00:09:28,835 --> 00:09:30,035
- We'll talk to you soon,
dude.
282
00:09:30,103 --> 00:09:31,970
- All right.
- See you soon, Scooba.
283
00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:33,471
- Later.
284
00:09:33,540 --> 00:09:35,907
- I feel like Scooba's
definitely getting catfished.
285
00:09:35,976 --> 00:09:37,642
There's, like,
no doubt about it.
286
00:09:37,711 --> 00:09:38,877
- I mean,
all he really knows about her
287
00:09:38,946 --> 00:09:40,378
is she lives in England,
and she's cute,
288
00:09:40,447 --> 00:09:42,480
so it's time for Scooba
289
00:09:42,549 --> 00:09:43,815
to ask some tough questions
290
00:09:43,884 --> 00:09:46,318
and demand some real answers.
291
00:09:47,521 --> 00:09:49,154
- ♪ You can never say never ♪
292
00:09:49,222 --> 00:09:51,222
♪ When we've been waiting
forever ♪
293
00:09:51,291 --> 00:09:53,658
- Put your hat on.
- [sighs] Really?
294
00:09:53,727 --> 00:09:55,393
- There's more surprise.
295
00:09:55,462 --> 00:09:58,597
[dings]
- Happy birthday, Daddy.
296
00:09:58,665 --> 00:10:00,999
You gotta make a wish.
You gotta make a wish.
297
00:10:01,068 --> 00:10:02,000
- Okay, ready?
I'm gonna blow.
298
00:10:02,069 --> 00:10:03,768
You guys help me blow them?
299
00:10:03,837 --> 00:10:05,470
- Blow close.
300
00:10:05,539 --> 00:10:07,939
- Yay!
301
00:10:08,008 --> 00:10:10,408
- Happy birthday, Daddy!
We love you.
302
00:10:10,477 --> 00:10:12,877
- Whoo!
303
00:10:12,946 --> 00:10:15,046
- The kids are like,
"Give me the doughnuts."
304
00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:17,415
- [laughs]
Yeah, Beau, get it.
305
00:10:17,484 --> 00:10:18,750
Cleo, eat that after dinner,
okay?
306
00:10:18,819 --> 00:10:19,851
After dinner.
- Yum!
307
00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,520
- [gasps]
- [laughs]
308
00:10:22,589 --> 00:10:24,289
- Oh!
309
00:10:24,358 --> 00:10:26,758
All right, the rest
you can have after dinner.
310
00:10:26,827 --> 00:10:28,126
All right, love you guys.
311
00:10:28,195 --> 00:10:29,661
I gotta go finish working,
okay?
312
00:10:29,730 --> 00:10:31,930
- I love you, baby.
- All right, love you guys.
313
00:10:31,999 --> 00:10:33,231
- See you!
314
00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:34,599
- We love you!
315
00:10:34,668 --> 00:10:35,767
[upbeat music]
316
00:10:35,836 --> 00:10:37,135
- All right.
317
00:10:37,204 --> 00:10:38,570
Let's get down to business.
318
00:10:38,639 --> 00:10:39,804
We got Scooba.
319
00:10:39,873 --> 00:10:41,640
Six years ago, he was 17,
320
00:10:41,708 --> 00:10:43,675
and he meets this girl
named Renae.
321
00:10:43,744 --> 00:10:45,343
They hit off,
they talk for months,
322
00:10:45,412 --> 00:10:46,645
they get really close,
323
00:10:46,713 --> 00:10:48,413
and then all of a sudden,
she disappears.
324
00:10:48,482 --> 00:10:50,682
Fast forward
to six years later,
325
00:10:50,751 --> 00:10:53,318
he gets random message
from a new Facebook profile
326
00:10:53,387 --> 00:10:54,853
with her picture and name.
327
00:10:54,921 --> 00:10:56,121
"Hey, it's me, Renae.
328
00:10:56,189 --> 00:10:58,023
Do you remember
from six years ago?"
329
00:10:58,091 --> 00:10:59,524
- So who is this girl,
330
00:10:59,593 --> 00:11:02,360
and why did she pop back up
after all this time?
331
00:11:02,429 --> 00:11:03,728
- This is gonna
be interesting.
332
00:11:03,797 --> 00:11:05,130
So what do we got?
333
00:11:05,198 --> 00:11:06,765
So Renae's info.
334
00:11:06,833 --> 00:11:08,667
- "Hey, I haven't heard back
from Renae yet,
335
00:11:08,735 --> 00:11:10,201
"but I figured I should
just send you the link
336
00:11:10,270 --> 00:11:11,536
"to her Facebook
so you have it.
337
00:11:11,605 --> 00:11:13,638
"These are the things
I know about her:
338
00:11:13,707 --> 00:11:16,775
"She's 23, she lives
in Wolverhampton, UK,
339
00:11:16,843 --> 00:11:18,643
"She's either a nurse
or a nursing student,
340
00:11:18,712 --> 00:11:20,345
"and her brother's name
is Dylan.
341
00:11:20,414 --> 00:11:21,846
"I'll let you know as soon
as I hear back.
342
00:11:21,915 --> 00:11:23,481
Scooba."
343
00:11:23,550 --> 00:11:24,916
All right, well,
let's go to her Facebook.
344
00:11:24,985 --> 00:11:26,051
Let me share.
Hold on.
345
00:11:26,119 --> 00:11:27,352
All right, here we go.
346
00:11:27,421 --> 00:11:28,486
So here she is.
Okay.
347
00:11:28,555 --> 00:11:29,554
There's not a lot
to go off of.
348
00:11:29,623 --> 00:11:32,123
From Bushbury, Wolverhampton.
349
00:11:32,192 --> 00:11:33,758
One photo.
350
00:11:33,827 --> 00:11:36,961
This is clearly a profile
she made just for him,
351
00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:38,196
but there's not nothing.
352
00:11:38,265 --> 00:11:39,664
I mean, we got this photo,
353
00:11:39,733 --> 00:11:42,634
so I just wanna see
if this picture comes up.
354
00:11:42,703 --> 00:11:45,370
What?
Oh, my God.
355
00:11:45,439 --> 00:11:47,839
There is one.
- Shut the [bleep] up.
356
00:11:47,908 --> 00:11:50,075
- There's a ton of pictures
of this girl.
357
00:11:50,143 --> 00:11:51,910
Acacia [bleep].
358
00:11:51,978 --> 00:11:53,278
Well, that was easy.
359
00:11:53,346 --> 00:11:56,047
- Oh, my God.
360
00:11:56,116 --> 00:11:58,083
- Is that an Instagram?
361
00:11:58,151 --> 00:12:00,752
Two million followers!
362
00:12:00,821 --> 00:12:03,488
She's got two kids.
She lives in Oregon.
363
00:12:03,557 --> 00:12:05,824
Oh, there, look at this one.
Look.
364
00:12:05,892 --> 00:12:08,126
Tattoo on her finger,
nose ring,
365
00:12:08,195 --> 00:12:10,128
it's definitely her.
- 1,000%.
366
00:12:10,197 --> 00:12:12,130
- All right,
I'm gonna message her.
367
00:12:12,199 --> 00:12:15,266
Maybe she knows who's been
stealing her pictures.
368
00:12:15,335 --> 00:12:16,601
- I'm sure she has people
369
00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:17,969
stealing her photos
all the time.
370
00:12:18,038 --> 00:12:19,938
- "Hey, Acacia,
371
00:12:20,006 --> 00:12:22,073
"would love if you
372
00:12:22,142 --> 00:12:24,409
can help us out."
373
00:12:24,478 --> 00:12:26,044
[dings]
- Ding.
374
00:12:26,113 --> 00:12:27,746
- Okay, so now we know
375
00:12:27,814 --> 00:12:30,648
that the girl in the pictures
is Acacia.
376
00:12:30,717 --> 00:12:31,649
- Mm-hmm.
377
00:12:31,718 --> 00:12:33,118
- Which means now
we have confirmation
378
00:12:33,186 --> 00:12:34,552
that Renae is a liar.
379
00:12:34,621 --> 00:12:37,589
- Pants on fire.
- Ah!
380
00:12:37,657 --> 00:12:39,624
- What?
- Whoa, look at this.
381
00:12:39,693 --> 00:12:41,126
Her Facebook URL
382
00:12:41,194 --> 00:12:46,264
is facebook.com/tyana.smith.3
[bleep].
383
00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:48,133
I mean...
384
00:12:48,201 --> 00:12:49,567
- So it's [bleep] Tyana Smith.
385
00:12:49,636 --> 00:12:50,802
- What?
- [laughs]
386
00:12:50,871 --> 00:12:53,071
- How did Scooba
not notice this?
387
00:12:53,140 --> 00:12:54,472
- I mean, this is, like,
388
00:12:54,541 --> 00:12:57,075
such a specific place
in the UK to be "from."
389
00:12:57,144 --> 00:12:59,244
We need to search
for Tyana Smith
390
00:12:59,312 --> 00:13:00,578
in that town.
- All right, yeah.
391
00:13:00,647 --> 00:13:04,149
Let's look up Tyana Smith,
392
00:13:04,217 --> 00:13:07,719
and let's go to city.
393
00:13:07,788 --> 00:13:09,120
And what the name...
394
00:13:09,189 --> 00:13:10,555
- Wolverine.
395
00:13:10,624 --> 00:13:12,290
- [laughs]
396
00:13:12,359 --> 00:13:13,992
Wolverhampton.
397
00:13:14,060 --> 00:13:16,628
Oh, there it is!
398
00:13:16,696 --> 00:13:18,263
- Oh, Bushbury.
That's the one.
399
00:13:18,331 --> 00:13:20,265
Bushbury, Wolverhampton.
400
00:13:20,333 --> 00:13:23,101
[both gasping]
- Oh, we got a hit.
401
00:13:23,170 --> 00:13:26,271
There is a Tyana Smith
in Wolverhampton, UK.
402
00:13:26,339 --> 00:13:27,839
This is her!
403
00:13:27,908 --> 00:13:30,542
- That woman is not
twentysomething years old.
404
00:13:30,610 --> 00:13:31,843
She's definitely older.
405
00:13:31,912 --> 00:13:34,078
- If this is her,
why would she be so careless?
406
00:13:34,147 --> 00:13:36,281
Is it possible he's been
talking to this lady
407
00:13:36,349 --> 00:13:37,415
the whole time?
408
00:13:37,484 --> 00:13:38,817
- There has to be a reason
409
00:13:38,885 --> 00:13:41,586
why she disappeared
the first time around.
410
00:13:41,655 --> 00:13:43,154
Maybe they realized
that he was too young,
411
00:13:43,223 --> 00:13:44,722
and they were, like, "Eh,"
but now that he's older...
412
00:13:44,791 --> 00:13:45,657
- Oh.
413
00:13:45,725 --> 00:13:47,058
- They're trying to creep
back in.
414
00:13:47,127 --> 00:13:48,359
- Interesting.
415
00:13:48,428 --> 00:13:50,528
Obviously, if they lied
about their picture,
416
00:13:50,597 --> 00:13:52,130
then it totally makes sense
417
00:13:52,199 --> 00:13:53,464
that it could be
an older woman.
418
00:13:53,533 --> 00:13:55,967
- Poor Scooba.
Something's up.
419
00:13:57,204 --> 00:13:59,571
[dramatic music]
420
00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:01,739
- So now we know that Renae
421
00:14:01,808 --> 00:14:03,541
has been lying
at least about the photos.
422
00:14:03,610 --> 00:14:04,776
I think we should tell Scooba
423
00:14:04,845 --> 00:14:06,177
that we've searched the photo,
424
00:14:06,246 --> 00:14:07,545
and it immediately brought us
back this girl.
425
00:14:07,614 --> 00:14:09,013
- And even crazier,
426
00:14:09,082 --> 00:14:10,648
I think we should
also be like,
427
00:14:10,717 --> 00:14:12,884
"Hey, did you see Tyana Smith?"
428
00:14:12,953 --> 00:14:14,819
It's right there
on Renae's URL,
429
00:14:14,888 --> 00:14:16,688
and it led us right
to an older woman
430
00:14:16,756 --> 00:14:18,256
in Wolverhampton, UK.
431
00:14:18,325 --> 00:14:20,458
That's going
to flip Scooba out.
432
00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:22,293
- All right,
let me text Scooba.
433
00:14:22,362 --> 00:14:26,231
"Hey, buddy,
let's get back to work."
434
00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:29,500
I mean, I think him knowing
that she's lying
435
00:14:29,569 --> 00:14:30,802
at least about the photos
436
00:14:30,871 --> 00:14:32,804
will give him
a little bit of motivation
437
00:14:32,873 --> 00:14:34,105
to press her now.
438
00:14:34,174 --> 00:14:35,573
[dings]
439
00:14:35,642 --> 00:14:37,408
- Hello.
both: Hey.
440
00:14:37,477 --> 00:14:38,710
- We're back.
441
00:14:38,778 --> 00:14:40,812
- Welcome back.
- How are you doing?
442
00:14:40,881 --> 00:14:42,814
- I'm kind of going
with the flow.
443
00:14:42,883 --> 00:14:44,449
- Well, we've got
some things to talk about.
444
00:14:44,517 --> 00:14:45,884
- Okay.
445
00:14:45,952 --> 00:14:47,385
- We took the photo
from her Facebook page,
446
00:14:47,454 --> 00:14:50,421
and we did an image search,
and it came back right away.
447
00:14:50,490 --> 00:14:53,258
The image search brought
a bunch of photos up...
448
00:14:53,326 --> 00:14:54,359
- Oh, wow.
449
00:14:54,427 --> 00:14:55,860
- Of some other girl,
450
00:14:55,929 --> 00:14:57,328
and we found her Instagram.
451
00:14:57,397 --> 00:15:00,231
Her name is Acacia.
She's verified.
452
00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:01,666
She's got millions
of followers.
453
00:15:01,735 --> 00:15:03,334
She's got two kids,
but here she is.
454
00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:06,070
This is the girl.
- Huh.
455
00:15:06,139 --> 00:15:07,839
Weird.
456
00:15:07,908 --> 00:15:09,974
- So we now know
457
00:15:10,043 --> 00:15:13,411
Renae is at the very least
lying about...
458
00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,246
- Who she is.
Yeah.
459
00:15:15,315 --> 00:15:17,649
- I messaged Acacia
on Instagram.
460
00:15:17,717 --> 00:15:19,350
- Okay.
- Because I--
461
00:15:19,419 --> 00:15:21,152
We were hoping that maybe
we could talk to her,
462
00:15:21,221 --> 00:15:23,021
and see if she knows
anything about Renae,
463
00:15:23,089 --> 00:15:24,822
but I haven't heard
anything back.
464
00:15:24,891 --> 00:15:26,824
The other thing
that jumped out at us
465
00:15:26,893 --> 00:15:28,626
when we went to
Renae's Facebook page
466
00:15:28,695 --> 00:15:30,862
is the URL.
- Mm.
467
00:15:30,931 --> 00:15:33,798
- It's
facebook.com/tyana.smith.
468
00:15:33,867 --> 00:15:36,267
Did you notice that?
- I didn't,
469
00:15:36,336 --> 00:15:38,036
'cause I've only really
looked at it in the app,
470
00:15:38,104 --> 00:15:40,872
and the app doesn't
necessarily give you a URL.
471
00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:43,074
- I mean, that's pretty weird.
472
00:15:43,143 --> 00:15:43,942
- Mm-hmm.
473
00:15:44,010 --> 00:15:46,110
That's intriguing.
474
00:15:46,179 --> 00:15:48,012
- Do you know a Tyana Smith?
475
00:15:48,081 --> 00:15:50,081
- No.
476
00:15:50,150 --> 00:15:52,884
- So we searched
for Tyana Smith
477
00:15:52,953 --> 00:15:55,787
from Bushbury, Wolverhampton.
478
00:15:55,855 --> 00:15:58,289
It brought us to this profile.
479
00:15:58,358 --> 00:16:00,491
♪ ♪
480
00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,859
- Wow.
481
00:16:01,928 --> 00:16:04,395
- This woman is clearly
not 23.
482
00:16:04,464 --> 00:16:07,065
We don't know for sure
if it's her,
483
00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:08,967
but what if they are older
than they said that they were?
484
00:16:09,035 --> 00:16:12,103
- If they're much older
than me now,
485
00:16:12,172 --> 00:16:13,871
they were much older
than me then,
486
00:16:13,940 --> 00:16:16,941
and then that just turns into,
487
00:16:17,010 --> 00:16:20,144
"Why were you that age
pretending to be that age
488
00:16:20,213 --> 00:16:21,813
when I was honest
about my age?"
489
00:16:21,881 --> 00:16:23,381
- Right, right.
490
00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:24,949
Very creepy, very weird.
491
00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:26,718
[dings]
- Oh.
492
00:16:26,786 --> 00:16:28,519
I got a response from Acacia.
493
00:16:28,588 --> 00:16:29,654
- Oh?
- Oh?
494
00:16:29,723 --> 00:16:31,055
- "Hi, oh, my goodness,
of course.
495
00:16:31,124 --> 00:16:33,624
Let me know what I can do.
I'm free now."
496
00:16:33,693 --> 00:16:35,093
Should we invite her
to join our Zoom?
497
00:16:35,161 --> 00:16:36,260
- Yeah, we might as well.
498
00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:38,329
- "For sure.
Hopping on now."
499
00:16:38,398 --> 00:16:40,398
All right, get ready.
Scooba, you're about to meet
500
00:16:40,467 --> 00:16:42,533
the girl whose photos
you fell in love with.
501
00:16:42,602 --> 00:16:45,003
- Mm.
502
00:16:45,071 --> 00:16:45,937
- I'm nervous now.
[dings]
503
00:16:46,006 --> 00:16:47,238
- Oh!
- Oh!
504
00:16:47,307 --> 00:16:48,539
- Hey.
- Hello.
505
00:16:48,608 --> 00:16:49,607
- Hi.
506
00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:50,808
- What's up?
- Hello.
507
00:16:50,877 --> 00:16:52,410
- Hi.
508
00:16:52,479 --> 00:16:53,811
- It's Acacia, right?
509
00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,213
- Yeah, hi.
510
00:16:55,281 --> 00:16:58,149
- So hello, I'm Nev,
and this is Kamie.
511
00:16:58,218 --> 00:16:59,851
- I'm Scooba.
- Hi.
512
00:16:59,919 --> 00:17:01,552
- Welcome to "Catfish."
513
00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:08,292
- Cool.
- Aw.
514
00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:11,462
Did you ever think
you would end up on it?
515
00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:13,831
- Um, to be honest,
516
00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:16,834
yeah, I've kind of been waiting
for this moment.
517
00:17:16,903 --> 00:17:18,202
- Is that because people
use your pictures
518
00:17:18,271 --> 00:17:20,304
to make fake profiles a lot?
- Yeah.
519
00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:23,408
Like, for, like,
ten years of my life.
520
00:17:23,476 --> 00:17:24,976
- Wow.
521
00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:26,711
- We're working on
an episode right now,
522
00:17:26,780 --> 00:17:28,112
and we're helping Scooba out.
523
00:17:28,181 --> 00:17:29,981
He's been talking to a girl
named Renae.
524
00:17:30,050 --> 00:17:32,250
So they talked for, like,
eight months in 2014,
525
00:17:32,318 --> 00:17:34,018
it got really serious...
- Okay.
526
00:17:34,087 --> 00:17:35,987
- We started talking on
527
00:17:36,056 --> 00:17:39,190
the virtual dating app, IMVU.
528
00:17:39,259 --> 00:17:41,592
We started dating,
and then we moved over to Kik.
529
00:17:41,661 --> 00:17:42,994
- Gotcha.
530
00:17:43,063 --> 00:17:44,862
- And then she disappeared.
531
00:17:44,931 --> 00:17:47,031
- And then six years go by,
532
00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,233
and she pops up out of nowhere
533
00:17:49,302 --> 00:17:53,871
using a blonde photo of you.
534
00:17:53,940 --> 00:17:55,106
♪ ♪
535
00:17:55,175 --> 00:17:57,842
- Still claims her name
is Renae.
536
00:17:57,911 --> 00:17:59,911
There's only one photo,
537
00:17:59,979 --> 00:18:01,212
and we ran that photo,
538
00:18:01,281 --> 00:18:02,780
and it right away
brought us to you.
539
00:18:02,849 --> 00:18:04,048
- Okay.
540
00:18:04,117 --> 00:18:05,750
- So we know this girl's
obviously not you.
541
00:18:05,819 --> 00:18:07,218
- Yeah.
542
00:18:07,287 --> 00:18:09,020
- Unless you've been pretending
to be a girl named Renae
543
00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:10,955
and talking to Scooba
for the last six years.
544
00:18:11,024 --> 00:18:13,391
- [stammering] I have not.
- [laughs]
545
00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:15,359
- Have you had
any interaction with
546
00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:18,196
or known of
any of these people,
547
00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:19,897
and have you dealt
with any of them?
548
00:18:19,966 --> 00:18:22,433
- Um, no, so I, like,
549
00:18:22,502 --> 00:18:24,569
I would get messages
every now and then
550
00:18:24,637 --> 00:18:27,271
even today saying, like--
551
00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:30,308
which is funny
that you mention it, Kik.
552
00:18:30,376 --> 00:18:32,844
People would be like,
"We talked on Kik, like...
553
00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:37,915
And I'm like,
554
00:18:37,984 --> 00:18:40,685
and now it's making me nervous
'cause you say 2014 and Kik,
555
00:18:40,753 --> 00:18:42,186
and I'm like, "Oh, goodness.
556
00:18:42,255 --> 00:18:45,022
Like, is it the same person
that's been doing this?"
557
00:18:46,426 --> 00:18:47,725
- [sighs]
558
00:18:47,794 --> 00:18:49,727
- But my picture's on Tumblr.
559
00:18:49,796 --> 00:18:51,329
That's where
most of them began.
560
00:18:51,397 --> 00:18:54,632
Um, they kind of just blew up,
561
00:18:54,701 --> 00:18:58,035
and they just were spread all
over Facebook pages and stuff.
562
00:18:58,104 --> 00:19:01,105
So, like, I became this,
like, stock photo image
563
00:19:01,174 --> 00:19:02,607
that nobody really knew
who I was.
564
00:19:02,675 --> 00:19:04,876
They just recognized my face.
- Saw your face.
565
00:19:04,944 --> 00:19:06,177
- Yeah.
- Right.
566
00:19:06,246 --> 00:19:08,212
- And so those pictures
just went everywhere,
567
00:19:08,281 --> 00:19:10,615
and then they became
so many things
568
00:19:10,683 --> 00:19:11,849
that just weren't me.
569
00:19:11,918 --> 00:19:13,451
- Do you remember anyone
ever saying
570
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,752
they were talking to you,
571
00:19:14,821 --> 00:19:16,320
and they thought
your name was Renae?
572
00:19:16,389 --> 00:19:19,624
- No, but I wouldn't
be surprised.
573
00:19:19,692 --> 00:19:21,592
I remember at one point
574
00:19:22,862 --> 00:19:25,163
and we, like, counted
the Facebook pages one day
575
00:19:25,231 --> 00:19:28,599
that used my picture, and it
was, like, up in the 500s.
576
00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:29,934
[tense music]
577
00:19:30,003 --> 00:19:31,369
So...
[laughs]
578
00:19:31,437 --> 00:19:32,537
- Wow.
579
00:19:32,605 --> 00:19:33,771
- What?
580
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,339
- That's insane.
581
00:19:35,408 --> 00:19:37,508
- Like, they just
found your face,
582
00:19:37,577 --> 00:19:39,110
which is obviously
a perfect face--
583
00:19:39,179 --> 00:19:40,444
like, you look like
an elven princess...
584
00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:41,546
- Very symmetrical.
585
00:19:41,614 --> 00:19:44,015
- From "Lord of the Rings"
or something.
586
00:19:44,083 --> 00:19:45,283
- [laughs]
- Very symmetrical, yeah.
587
00:19:45,351 --> 00:19:47,485
- So it makes sense.
588
00:19:47,554 --> 00:19:49,921
- "Very symmetrical."
[laughs]
589
00:19:49,989 --> 00:19:52,323
- So you don't know Renae,
590
00:19:52,392 --> 00:19:55,259
but does the name Tyana Smith,
591
00:19:55,328 --> 00:19:57,061
does that ring a bell?
592
00:19:57,130 --> 00:19:59,697
- No, I don't know
any of those people.
593
00:19:59,766 --> 00:20:01,165
- [sighs]
594
00:20:01,234 --> 00:20:03,834
- All right.
Very nice to meet you.
595
00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:05,369
- Yes, very nice to meet you.
596
00:20:05,438 --> 00:20:07,605
- I'm so sorry
this happened to you.
597
00:20:07,674 --> 00:20:09,140
- Thank you.
598
00:20:09,209 --> 00:20:10,308
- Thanks for helping us out.
599
00:20:10,376 --> 00:20:12,577
- Bye.
Thank you.
600
00:20:12,645 --> 00:20:13,778
- Bye.
601
00:20:13,846 --> 00:20:16,447
[somber music]
602
00:20:16,516 --> 00:20:19,317
- [sighs]
Wow.
603
00:20:19,385 --> 00:20:20,518
- Yeah.
604
00:20:20,587 --> 00:20:21,819
- How are you feeling
about all this so far?
605
00:20:21,888 --> 00:20:23,221
- ♪ Hold my breath in ♪
606
00:20:23,289 --> 00:20:25,423
- It is a bummer.
It is a bummer.
607
00:20:25,491 --> 00:20:27,858
- ♪ While she rips
my heart out ♪
608
00:20:27,927 --> 00:20:30,595
- I'm--I'm in a mixture
609
00:20:30,663 --> 00:20:32,964
of frustrated,
610
00:20:33,032 --> 00:20:35,800
relieved that I got some truth,
611
00:20:35,868 --> 00:20:39,971
and um, accepting that truth.
612
00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:41,806
- ♪ Watch me as ♪
613
00:20:41,874 --> 00:20:44,976
♪ My world burns down ♪
614
00:20:45,044 --> 00:20:47,745
- Why disrupt somebody's life
615
00:20:47,814 --> 00:20:50,414
after six years
to just continue a lie?
616
00:20:50,483 --> 00:20:53,184
- ♪ Though my heart
is telling me to go ♪
617
00:20:53,253 --> 00:20:55,319
- I'm sorry, Scooba.
618
00:20:55,388 --> 00:20:58,489
- That was--it was a lot.
619
00:20:58,558 --> 00:21:00,191
- ♪ That you sunk my ship ♪
620
00:21:00,260 --> 00:21:03,594
♪ And then you let me drown ♪
621
00:21:04,664 --> 00:21:06,664
- I'm sorry, Scooba.
622
00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:08,366
This was, like, a lot.
623
00:21:08,434 --> 00:21:11,602
- Why disrupt somebody's life
624
00:21:11,671 --> 00:21:14,005
after six years
to just continue a lie
625
00:21:14,073 --> 00:21:17,975
when you could just
come out straight who you are?
626
00:21:18,044 --> 00:21:19,377
[somber music]
627
00:21:19,445 --> 00:21:22,146
I'm now at the point
628
00:21:23,383 --> 00:21:26,083
'Cause she's already lied to me
where I about her face,a know.
629
00:21:26,152 --> 00:21:27,785
what else could she be lying
to me about, you know?
630
00:21:27,854 --> 00:21:29,020
- Right.
631
00:21:29,088 --> 00:21:30,554
- What if it's
not Tyana Smith?
632
00:21:30,623 --> 00:21:32,156
What if it is a girl you age,
633
00:21:32,225 --> 00:21:34,158
but she looks nothing
like Acacia?
634
00:21:34,227 --> 00:21:35,960
How much would that
even matter to you?
635
00:21:36,029 --> 00:21:38,296
Like, at the beginning
of all this,
636
00:21:38,364 --> 00:21:40,464
for a good six months,
637
00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:42,333
you guys were just avatars,
638
00:21:42,402 --> 00:21:44,368
and you didn't know
what each other looked like.
639
00:21:44,437 --> 00:21:45,736
- We would have to start over.
640
00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:48,806
A new level of trust
would have to be built.
641
00:21:48,875 --> 00:21:50,808
- Clearly, she's drawn to you.
642
00:21:50,877 --> 00:21:52,743
She's thought about you,
she found you again.
643
00:21:52,812 --> 00:21:55,179
Like, she wants to be
in your life.
644
00:21:55,248 --> 00:21:57,815
So in a way,
you do have some leverage.
645
00:21:57,884 --> 00:21:59,450
- Or is she playing
a mind game?
646
00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:01,686
- Well, yeah, but even if she's
just playing a mind game,
647
00:22:01,754 --> 00:22:04,255
the fact that she came back
to you after six years
648
00:22:04,324 --> 00:22:07,725
suggests that you have
significance to her.
649
00:22:07,794 --> 00:22:09,760
- She has something
to say to you.
650
00:22:09,829 --> 00:22:11,028
She has something
to say to you.
651
00:22:11,097 --> 00:22:12,296
[dings]
652
00:22:12,365 --> 00:22:13,864
- Well, she just messaged me
that she's on break.
653
00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:16,667
- All right,
share that "scween."
654
00:22:16,736 --> 00:22:18,502
Let's try to get
as much information
655
00:22:18,571 --> 00:22:20,004
as we can out of her.
656
00:22:20,073 --> 00:22:22,106
Things that we could search,
locations, screennames.
657
00:22:22,175 --> 00:22:24,742
We need more clues.
658
00:22:24,811 --> 00:22:26,377
It feels like
it's gonna take some pushing,
659
00:22:26,446 --> 00:22:28,646
and you're gonna have to,
you know, really--
660
00:22:28,715 --> 00:22:30,481
I don't wanna say demand,
but...
661
00:22:30,550 --> 00:22:31,716
- Push it.
- Yeah.
662
00:22:31,784 --> 00:22:33,384
Pressure her to give you
some answers.
663
00:22:33,453 --> 00:22:36,354
- You can't scare her away.
You've gotta lube it up first.
664
00:22:36,422 --> 00:22:38,422
This situation needs lube.
665
00:22:38,491 --> 00:22:40,224
- All right, guys.
666
00:22:40,293 --> 00:22:42,226
- How about,
do you still live in the UK?
667
00:22:42,295 --> 00:22:45,229
- Her Facebook page
says she does.
668
00:22:45,298 --> 00:22:47,798
- She's a [bleep] liar.
We know this to be true.
669
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,166
[dings]
- Oh, oh!
670
00:22:49,235 --> 00:22:51,702
- Oh, she said,
"Yeah, why you ask?"
671
00:22:51,771 --> 00:22:53,938
- "Just curious."
672
00:22:54,006 --> 00:22:55,306
- [laughs]
673
00:22:55,375 --> 00:22:56,841
- We have to butter her up.
What do you want me to say?
674
00:22:56,909 --> 00:22:59,443
- I'm ready to
[bleep] go in hard.
675
00:22:59,512 --> 00:23:01,479
I don't know why we're
playing games with this girl.
676
00:23:01,547 --> 00:23:03,013
When she popped back up,
677
00:23:03,082 --> 00:23:05,282
she had her chance to come
clean, and she [bleep] blew it.
678
00:23:05,351 --> 00:23:07,485
- Right, I mean, I'm ready
to go balls to the wall.
679
00:23:07,553 --> 00:23:08,786
- Not out the gate!
680
00:23:08,855 --> 00:23:10,187
- We're going in too hard,
681
00:23:10,256 --> 00:23:12,556
but we're definitely, like,
making it clear
682
00:23:12,625 --> 00:23:14,225
that we're not
[bleep] around anymore.
683
00:23:14,293 --> 00:23:16,093
Next question.
684
00:23:16,162 --> 00:23:18,062
Is Renae your real name?
685
00:23:18,131 --> 00:23:21,332
'Cause your Facebook profile
URL is Tyana Smith.
686
00:23:21,401 --> 00:23:23,434
[dings]
- Right.
687
00:23:23,503 --> 00:23:24,568
[gasps] Ooh, ooh, ooh.
- Oh.
688
00:23:24,637 --> 00:23:26,337
- "Yes, silly.
My Facebook email
689
00:23:26,406 --> 00:23:28,806
is the same one I used for
my IMVU if you remember that."
690
00:23:28,875 --> 00:23:30,241
- I don't remember that.
691
00:23:30,309 --> 00:23:32,143
- Be like,
"Oh, I don't remember.
692
00:23:32,211 --> 00:23:33,444
What was that again?"
693
00:23:33,513 --> 00:23:35,446
- Oh, oh.
- Ah, ah!
694
00:23:35,515 --> 00:23:37,248
- What?
695
00:23:37,316 --> 00:23:38,983
- That's an old IMVU photo.
696
00:23:39,051 --> 00:23:40,084
- Whoa.
697
00:23:40,153 --> 00:23:43,154
- No, she's trying
to [bleep] derail us.
698
00:23:43,222 --> 00:23:44,488
That's not what we asked.
699
00:23:44,557 --> 00:23:47,358
- You're right, she is trying
to change the topic.
700
00:23:47,427 --> 00:23:49,693
So say, "Oh, my God.
Crazy.
701
00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:52,396
What was your username?"
702
00:23:52,465 --> 00:23:54,398
- Oh, she's responding.
703
00:23:54,467 --> 00:23:56,434
[dramatic music]
704
00:23:56,502 --> 00:23:58,769
"Hold on.
Let me look."
705
00:23:58,838 --> 00:24:00,471
So she's still on there.
706
00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:01,939
- I personally wouldn't know.
707
00:24:02,008 --> 00:24:04,241
I'm glad I haven't gone back.
708
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:06,243
- "So I have to get back
to work now,
709
00:24:06,312 --> 00:24:08,512
but I'll send you
that username when I find it."
710
00:24:08,581 --> 00:24:09,780
- Oh, God.
711
00:24:09,849 --> 00:24:11,682
- Okay, we need
the [bleep] username
712
00:24:11,751 --> 00:24:13,250
so that we can look her up
713
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:14,685
and see if there's any more
information about her
714
00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:16,086
in her bio,
715
00:24:16,155 --> 00:24:17,955
and unfortunately,
we're kind of, like,
716
00:24:18,024 --> 00:24:20,491
at her beck and call right now.
- Yeah.
717
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,227
And she's supposedly "at work,"
718
00:24:23,296 --> 00:24:25,095
so she's not gonna reply.
719
00:24:25,164 --> 00:24:27,698
- If we believe
that she's in the UK,
720
00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:30,067
it's late now.
It's evening.
721
00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:31,235
Whatever she wants us
to believe,
722
00:24:31,304 --> 00:24:33,037
we'll pretend that
that's what's happening.
723
00:24:33,105 --> 00:24:34,104
- Yeah.
724
00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:35,239
- So I would say,
leave it alone.
725
00:24:35,308 --> 00:24:37,775
- We wait for her
to give the username.
726
00:24:37,844 --> 00:24:39,176
We need the username.
It's all we need.
727
00:24:39,245 --> 00:24:41,178
- Right, let's see
if she gets that to us.
728
00:24:41,247 --> 00:24:43,647
So we'll see
if she gets back to you,
729
00:24:43,716 --> 00:24:45,115
we'll meet back up tomorrow,
730
00:24:45,184 --> 00:24:48,052
and I do think you'll have
to make it very clear
731
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:49,887
that if you're gonna
move forward,
732
00:24:49,956 --> 00:24:51,889
in a friendship, or
a relationship, or whatever...
733
00:24:51,958 --> 00:24:53,858
- You need to be honest.
- Exactly.
734
00:24:53,926 --> 00:24:55,359
- We'll figure out
where this leads.
735
00:24:55,428 --> 00:24:56,927
- So yeah, I guess we'll
talk to you in the morning.
736
00:24:56,996 --> 00:24:58,729
- See you tomorrow.
737
00:24:58,798 --> 00:25:00,831
I tell you,
738
00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:03,601
Scooba has major firewalls.
739
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:06,403
He's not allowing for
any type of encryption [bleep].
740
00:25:06,472 --> 00:25:10,040
- Although, he does have
one vulnerability: Renae.
741
00:25:10,109 --> 00:25:11,509
- Mm-hmm.
[cell phone dings]
742
00:25:11,577 --> 00:25:14,111
- Oh, he said she just messaged
her username.
743
00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:15,279
- Ooh!
744
00:25:15,348 --> 00:25:16,914
- Do you wanna quickly
look up that username?
745
00:25:16,983 --> 00:25:19,183
- Yes.
- IMVU.
746
00:25:19,252 --> 00:25:21,118
- Because you can't just
Google her username.
747
00:25:21,187 --> 00:25:22,720
You have to be on IMVU
in order to search her.
748
00:25:22,788 --> 00:25:23,821
- Right, right.
749
00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:25,623
"Glow up your avatar in 3D."
750
00:25:25,691 --> 00:25:27,057
Whoa.
751
00:25:27,126 --> 00:25:29,760
- We have to create
a character.
752
00:25:29,829 --> 00:25:31,228
We have to make one.
753
00:25:31,297 --> 00:25:32,530
- All right.
Should we be male or female?
754
00:25:32,598 --> 00:25:33,731
- Make me, make me.
755
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:36,133
- All right, female.
- Female.
756
00:25:36,202 --> 00:25:38,836
- Hair, what are you
looking for?
757
00:25:38,905 --> 00:25:39,937
- Oh, this is so fun.
758
00:25:40,006 --> 00:25:41,138
I'm definitely doing
this later.
759
00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:42,606
Ooh, do the wavy hair.
Cute.
760
00:25:42,675 --> 00:25:44,275
- I don't know.
Okay, that's fine.
761
00:25:45,578 --> 00:25:46,844
- You're just gonna make her
a basic bitch?
762
00:25:46,913 --> 00:25:48,345
- Yes.
- What?
763
00:25:48,414 --> 00:25:49,647
- We're on a mission here,
Kamie.
764
00:25:49,715 --> 00:25:50,915
Are we in?
765
00:25:50,983 --> 00:25:52,216
- Could've at least
given her a blouse.
766
00:25:52,285 --> 00:25:53,651
Maybe a skirt.
767
00:25:53,719 --> 00:25:55,052
Some nail polish?
768
00:25:55,121 --> 00:25:57,721
- All right, so here
is Renae's profile name.
769
00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:00,824
- Look at all the basic bitches
that look exactly like us.
770
00:26:00,893 --> 00:26:02,793
- All right, let's see.
771
00:26:02,862 --> 00:26:04,995
[gasps]
There it is.
772
00:26:05,064 --> 00:26:06,730
- [gasps]
What? Antarctica?
773
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:09,300
- That's gotta be a joke.
Wow.
774
00:26:09,368 --> 00:26:11,702
- That's her.
- Ooh, there's a phone number!
775
00:26:11,771 --> 00:26:13,037
- [gasps]
776
00:26:13,105 --> 00:26:14,305
That's definitely
not a UK number.
777
00:26:14,373 --> 00:26:15,873
- That's true.
778
00:26:15,942 --> 00:26:17,908
Let's search this number.
- Run the number.
779
00:26:17,977 --> 00:26:19,343
[exciting music]
780
00:26:19,412 --> 00:26:20,711
Ooh.
781
00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:24,348
♪ ♪
782
00:26:24,417 --> 00:26:26,884
- No name associated
with this number.
783
00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:28,085
Look at this.
784
00:26:28,154 --> 00:26:29,520
It's a Virginia
cell phone number.
785
00:26:29,589 --> 00:26:32,022
- Not a text app?
- It's a Verizon phone number.
786
00:26:32,091 --> 00:26:33,490
She's not in the UK,
787
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:35,893
'cause the phone number is
a U.S. number from Virginia.
788
00:26:35,962 --> 00:26:39,597
Does that mean Tyana Smith
from Wolverhampton is not her?
789
00:26:39,665 --> 00:26:42,299
- It still means she's a liar!
790
00:26:42,368 --> 00:26:44,902
She has a real number
that she could've given to him
791
00:26:44,971 --> 00:26:46,303
if she really wanted
to talk to him,
792
00:26:46,372 --> 00:26:47,905
but she doesn't.
Something is wrong.
793
00:26:47,974 --> 00:26:49,873
- She's not in the UK,
794
00:26:49,942 --> 00:26:51,609
she's not the Tyana lady
we found,
795
00:26:51,677 --> 00:26:53,410
so who is she?
796
00:26:54,714 --> 00:26:55,946
[dings]
797
00:26:56,015 --> 00:26:57,848
- Oh, there she is.
798
00:26:57,917 --> 00:26:59,083
[warm music]
799
00:26:59,151 --> 00:27:00,551
She ready?
800
00:27:00,620 --> 00:27:01,986
- She ready.
801
00:27:02,054 --> 00:27:03,387
- All right,
so here's what we got.
802
00:27:03,456 --> 00:27:06,724
Obviously, we know the girl
in the picture is Acacia,
803
00:27:06,792 --> 00:27:08,158
this other girl,
804
00:27:08,227 --> 00:27:09,994
but there's very
little information
805
00:27:10,062 --> 00:27:11,495
that we actually have
about Renae,
806
00:27:11,564 --> 00:27:14,331
except we found
her IMVU profile,
807
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,433
and she does put
phone number on there,
808
00:27:16,502 --> 00:27:18,168
which is an American
cell phone.
809
00:27:18,237 --> 00:27:21,338
So not only is Renae lying
about who she is,
810
00:27:21,407 --> 00:27:23,340
she's also lying about
where she is.
811
00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:25,743
Let me text our guy here
and get him back.
812
00:27:25,811 --> 00:27:28,379
- Scooba.
813
00:27:28,447 --> 00:27:30,814
Abracadabra.
814
00:27:30,883 --> 00:27:33,917
Scooba-doo!
[dings]
815
00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:35,486
- Hi, guys.
- Hi.
816
00:27:35,554 --> 00:27:36,520
- Hey.
817
00:27:36,589 --> 00:27:38,522
We do have some things
to discuss.
818
00:27:38,591 --> 00:27:42,092
Before we do that,
have you talked to...
819
00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:43,861
- No, no, I have not.
- No.
820
00:27:43,929 --> 00:27:45,496
Okay, looking back
821
00:27:45,564 --> 00:27:48,098
on what
we discovered yesterday,
822
00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:51,001
how has that filtered down
823
00:27:51,070 --> 00:27:53,937
and kind of changed
your feelings
824
00:27:54,006 --> 00:27:55,506
about this whole situation?
825
00:27:55,574 --> 00:27:57,675
- Well, I'm kind of
riding the waves
826
00:27:57,743 --> 00:27:58,742
and see where this goes.
827
00:27:58,811 --> 00:28:00,711
- Do you have any other
friends of family
828
00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:01,979
that know about Renae?
829
00:28:02,048 --> 00:28:03,681
- No, other than my mom.
830
00:28:03,749 --> 00:28:04,915
- Well, what does she think?
831
00:28:04,984 --> 00:28:05,983
- Would you like
to talk to her?
832
00:28:06,052 --> 00:28:07,217
- Yeah.
833
00:28:07,286 --> 00:28:08,285
- Yeah, I would love
to meet your mom.
834
00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:09,353
- All right,
let me go get her.
835
00:28:09,422 --> 00:28:11,021
- What's her name?
- Charity.
836
00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:13,590
- [gasps]
♪ Oh, my goodness ♪
837
00:28:13,659 --> 00:28:15,292
- It's very nice to meet you,
Mom.
838
00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:17,094
- Very nice
to meet you both too.
839
00:28:17,163 --> 00:28:18,429
- Good to meet you.
840
00:28:18,497 --> 00:28:22,032
So what do you know
about this Renae,
841
00:28:22,101 --> 00:28:23,801
and what do you
think about it?
842
00:28:23,869 --> 00:28:27,004
- Well, he's the type of kid
that gets attached easily
843
00:28:27,073 --> 00:28:29,073
if he finds connection.
844
00:28:29,141 --> 00:28:32,643
I do want to him to be with
someone that he connects with,
845
00:28:32,712 --> 00:28:36,346
I do, 'cause he doesn't have
the exact easy life.
846
00:28:36,415 --> 00:28:39,149
I do have
847
00:28:39,218 --> 00:28:41,985
mental illness issues.
848
00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:43,220
- Yeah.
849
00:28:43,289 --> 00:28:46,223
- So it's hard,
and I just feel the need
850
00:28:46,292 --> 00:28:49,293
to make sure that my son
doesn't fall on his face
851
00:28:49,361 --> 00:28:51,562
because he does
wear his heart on his sleeve.
852
00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:53,163
- Well, we're gonna help him
figure out
853
00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:54,531
who this Renae girl is.
854
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,100
We have a little bit
of new information for him
855
00:28:56,168 --> 00:28:59,970
we wanna go over
so that he can forge ahead.
856
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:01,538
Great meeting you though.
Thank you.
857
00:29:01,607 --> 00:29:03,474
- Lovely meeting you guys too.
858
00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:06,076
- Thanks, Mom.
Bye.
859
00:29:06,145 --> 00:29:08,612
- Bye.
- And she's so sweet.
860
00:29:08,681 --> 00:29:10,447
- All right, well,
interestingly,
861
00:29:10,516 --> 00:29:12,916
yesterday when you asked Renae
about her IMVU,
862
00:29:12,985 --> 00:29:14,351
she provided her profile,
863
00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:16,553
and when we searched
the screenname,
864
00:29:16,622 --> 00:29:18,689
it comes up with her profile.
865
00:29:18,758 --> 00:29:20,491
So there's still a little bit
of information on here.
866
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,861
It's not much, but it does
have a phone number.
867
00:29:23,929 --> 00:29:25,395
- Really?
868
00:29:25,464 --> 00:29:27,030
- Obviously, this wasn't here
when you talked to her
869
00:29:27,099 --> 00:29:28,398
six years ago.
870
00:29:29,935 --> 00:29:31,769
- So we looked up
this phone number.
871
00:29:33,205 --> 00:29:35,973
but it turns out it's
a Virginia cell phone number.
872
00:29:36,041 --> 00:29:37,541
- Oh, wow.
873
00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:38,976
- And you did ask her
as well, like,
874
00:29:39,044 --> 00:29:41,411
"Are you still in the UK?"
And she said, "Yes,"
875
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,880
but this says
she's in Virginia.
876
00:29:42,948 --> 00:29:44,481
- That's very interesting.
877
00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:47,050
- The good news is, now there's
potentially a way to reach her
878
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,520
other than Facebook
if we need it.
879
00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:52,823
- Major, major parts of what
you thought you knew
880
00:29:52,892 --> 00:29:55,225
about this girl
seem to not be true.
881
00:29:55,294 --> 00:29:56,593
- Yeah, at all.
882
00:29:56,662 --> 00:29:58,929
- And that feels to me like
it's some, you know,
883
00:29:58,998 --> 00:30:00,798
it gives some real ammunition
884
00:30:00,866 --> 00:30:03,133
to kinda show our cards
and say, "Hey, look,
885
00:30:03,202 --> 00:30:04,735
"we know you're not the girl
in the pictures.
886
00:30:04,804 --> 00:30:06,537
"We spoke to her.
887
00:30:06,605 --> 00:30:07,905
We know you have
a U.S. phone number."
888
00:30:07,973 --> 00:30:10,174
- Now we can let
the hammer down.
889
00:30:10,242 --> 00:30:13,210
- So you wanna start
from your phone?
890
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:14,611
Because I like the idea
891
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,314
of you doing this first
for you,
892
00:30:17,383 --> 00:30:20,517
and she should do
what's right by you
893
00:30:20,586 --> 00:30:23,053
because you're the person
she's been talking to.
894
00:30:23,122 --> 00:30:24,388
- Agreed.
895
00:30:24,456 --> 00:30:25,856
[dramatic music]
896
00:30:25,925 --> 00:30:27,624
- All right,
she is active right now.
897
00:30:27,693 --> 00:30:29,760
- Oh, great.
- Ooh.
898
00:30:29,829 --> 00:30:32,763
- "Hello Renae, I video
chatted with Acacia yesterday.
899
00:30:32,832 --> 00:30:34,464
"I know you haven't been
telling me the truth
900
00:30:34,533 --> 00:30:36,033
"about who you are,
901
00:30:36,101 --> 00:30:37,935
"and I wanna give you
that chance to come clean.
902
00:30:38,003 --> 00:30:39,169
It's now or never."
903
00:30:39,238 --> 00:30:40,871
- Whoa.
Wow, I love it.
904
00:30:41,907 --> 00:30:43,874
He just [bleep] jams
that send button.
905
00:30:45,411 --> 00:30:47,211
- Ah, she read it!
- Oh!
906
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:48,912
- Oh, oh, she saw it,
she saw it.
907
00:30:48,981 --> 00:30:50,714
- Oh, my God.
908
00:30:50,783 --> 00:30:53,050
- I'm very much at the edge
of my seat right now.
909
00:30:53,118 --> 00:30:56,019
- "Wow.
Give me a second."
910
00:30:56,088 --> 00:30:57,654
- I've given you six years.
911
00:30:57,723 --> 00:31:00,290
- I think you should now say,
"If you're ready to do this,
912
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:02,960
let's do it, you know,
face to face."
913
00:31:03,028 --> 00:31:06,063
And now send the Zoom link.
914
00:31:06,131 --> 00:31:08,332
- Oh, she read it.
915
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,766
- Oh, oh!
916
00:31:09,835 --> 00:31:10,968
- Ooh, she's typing,
she's typing, she's typing.
917
00:31:11,036 --> 00:31:12,803
- Oh, yeah.
918
00:31:12,872 --> 00:31:14,404
♪ ♪
919
00:31:14,473 --> 00:31:16,273
Oh, my goodness.
- [gasps]
920
00:31:16,342 --> 00:31:17,574
- All right.
921
00:31:17,643 --> 00:31:19,376
Scooba,
are you ready to, like,
922
00:31:19,445 --> 00:31:21,745
hold her feet to the fire
923
00:31:21,814 --> 00:31:23,447
and ask her
some tough questions?
924
00:31:23,515 --> 00:31:26,083
- Oh, yeah.
- Collective deep breath.
925
00:31:26,151 --> 00:31:28,252
[all inhale]
926
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,488
[all exhale]
927
00:31:33,058 --> 00:31:34,691
That was nice.
928
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,060
- Oh, oh.
929
00:31:37,129 --> 00:31:39,863
- Hi.
- Hi.
930
00:31:39,932 --> 00:31:42,165
- Hello.
- Hi.
931
00:31:42,234 --> 00:31:44,801
- Hello, hello.
932
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:46,203
♪ ♪
933
00:31:46,272 --> 00:31:49,740
- Are you the person
Scooba has been talking to?
934
00:31:49,808 --> 00:31:52,009
- Yeah.
935
00:31:52,077 --> 00:31:54,511
- You're clearly not the person
936
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:57,147
that is on your Facebook.
937
00:31:57,216 --> 00:31:59,449
♪ ♪
938
00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:01,418
- Okay, hold on a second.
939
00:32:01,487 --> 00:32:04,421
I just wanna take a second
940
00:32:04,490 --> 00:32:07,925
to kinda just let Renae
introduce herself
941
00:32:07,993 --> 00:32:09,593
because I don't even think
we know your real name.
942
00:32:09,662 --> 00:32:11,762
Can you just give us a quick
overview of who you are,
943
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:13,530
what your name is,
where you live,
944
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:14,731
just so we know
who we're talking to?
945
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,234
- Oh, okay, my name
is Kishana.
946
00:32:17,303 --> 00:32:19,069
I'm from Roanoke, Virginia,
947
00:32:19,138 --> 00:32:21,004
and I am Haitian American.
948
00:32:22,074 --> 00:32:24,141
- Are you in school right now?
- Are yo- Yeah.assroom?
949
00:32:24,209 --> 00:32:26,944
- Well, school session is out,
950
00:32:27,012 --> 00:32:29,146
but I am in a study room.
951
00:32:29,214 --> 00:32:31,615
- Why lie?
[laughs]
952
00:32:31,684 --> 00:32:34,418
- So I've asked myself that
a lot of times,
953
00:32:34,486 --> 00:32:35,819
but at the time...
954
00:32:37,756 --> 00:32:40,724
I wasn't so comfortable
in my skin,
955
00:32:40,793 --> 00:32:43,827
and I wasn't really comfortable
with myself,
956
00:32:43,896 --> 00:32:46,830
so it was easier for me
to put on a different persona
957
00:32:46,899 --> 00:32:48,098
than to be myself.
958
00:32:48,167 --> 00:32:51,201
- What aspects did you lie
959
00:32:51,270 --> 00:32:54,004
and what aspect did you
tell the truth about to me?
960
00:32:54,073 --> 00:32:57,007
- Okay, so the lies were,
961
00:32:57,076 --> 00:33:00,377
um, the part about, like,
962
00:33:00,446 --> 00:33:01,979
my brother that you remember.
963
00:33:02,047 --> 00:33:04,181
- Wait, did your brother
actually text Stephen?
964
00:33:04,249 --> 00:33:05,816
- No.
- No?
965
00:33:05,884 --> 00:33:06,984
- No.
966
00:33:07,052 --> 00:33:08,418
- So that was you?
967
00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:09,920
- Yeah, it was me.
968
00:33:09,989 --> 00:33:11,488
♪ ♪
969
00:33:11,557 --> 00:33:12,923
- Did I ever speak to your dad?
970
00:33:12,992 --> 00:33:14,358
- No.
971
00:33:14,426 --> 00:33:15,625
- No?
Okay.
972
00:33:15,694 --> 00:33:17,094
- Mm.
973
00:33:17,162 --> 00:33:19,062
- Yeah.
974
00:33:19,131 --> 00:33:20,197
- Why?
975
00:33:20,265 --> 00:33:22,099
- Yeah, why?
976
00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:24,534
- I felt like I couldn't keep
up with it anymore,
977
00:33:24,603 --> 00:33:26,169
so it was just so much easier
978
00:33:26,238 --> 00:33:28,305
to just drop it
and act like it never happened.
979
00:33:28,374 --> 00:33:31,041
I'm sorry, that's just
how I thought at the time.
980
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:32,876
- What about your URL
981
00:33:32,945 --> 00:33:35,912
on Facebook for Renae
is, like, a Tyana Smith?
982
00:33:35,981 --> 00:33:37,080
Who is that?
983
00:33:37,149 --> 00:33:40,050
- Honestly, when I was
with my ex-boyfriend,
984
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:41,885
and I was suspecting
he was doing something,
985
00:33:41,954 --> 00:33:45,655
so I made to message him
at the time.
986
00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:46,890
- Okay.
987
00:33:46,959 --> 00:33:49,459
- I can understand why
as a teenager
988
00:33:49,528 --> 00:33:51,294
you weren't ready
to come clean,
989
00:33:51,363 --> 00:33:52,729
but why not reach out
990
00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:55,232
at this point now as yourself?
991
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:57,267
- When I initially texted you,
992
00:33:57,336 --> 00:33:58,702
I was, like, I'm gonna be like,
993
00:33:58,771 --> 00:34:00,570
"Okay, I'm just gonna tell him.
I'm gonna let him know."
994
00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:02,739
But, like, the more
that I talked to you,
995
00:34:02,808 --> 00:34:05,976
it was easier
to be Renae with you
996
00:34:06,045 --> 00:34:08,011
than it would've been easier
for me to be, like,
997
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,279
Kishana with you,
998
00:34:09,348 --> 00:34:10,647
'cause even though
we're the same,
999
00:34:10,716 --> 00:34:13,250
I just felt like
you're connected with her
1000
00:34:13,318 --> 00:34:15,819
and not with me,
if that makes sense.
1001
00:34:15,888 --> 00:34:19,189
- Are you talking about
a physical connection?
1002
00:34:19,258 --> 00:34:20,690
- Yeah, that was, like,
1003
00:34:20,759 --> 00:34:22,959
that was kind of, like, a part
of me, 'cause I was like,
1004
00:34:24,196 --> 00:34:26,463
"what if, like, how I look
doesn't amount to, like,
1005
00:34:26,532 --> 00:34:29,132
how she looks, and
he's completely devastated?"
1006
00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:32,035
Basically, I made it
'cause at the time...
1007
00:34:35,441 --> 00:34:37,874
"Oh, it would just be
so much more easier, like...
1008
00:34:39,411 --> 00:34:40,544
Nobody gotta know, like..."
1009
00:34:40,612 --> 00:34:42,779
Like, I could've just been
somebody else.
1010
00:34:42,848 --> 00:34:45,449
- I know Black girl
to Black girl
1011
00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:46,850
on the internet,
1012
00:34:46,919 --> 00:34:49,853
it can be difficult
to make friends as yourself,
1013
00:34:49,922 --> 00:34:51,788
especially in
these virtual worlds.
1014
00:34:51,857 --> 00:34:54,591
You're on these apps
and playing these games,
1015
00:34:54,660 --> 00:34:56,893
and you subconsciously make
a white character
1016
00:34:56,962 --> 00:35:00,597
because you feel like
it might be more presentable
1017
00:35:00,666 --> 00:35:03,033
or people will want
to talk to you more,
1018
00:35:03,102 --> 00:35:06,303
but in the beginning,
when you guys met on IMVU,
1019
00:35:06,371 --> 00:35:08,939
he didn't know what you
looked like for six months.
1020
00:35:09,007 --> 00:35:10,474
You could've looked
like anybody.
1021
00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:13,143
He could've been completely
into you as you.
1022
00:35:13,212 --> 00:35:15,445
- Part of me just
didn't want to, like,
1023
00:35:15,514 --> 00:35:16,847
let him know
'cause I was like,
1024
00:35:16,915 --> 00:35:18,815
"We've already come so far,
like,
1025
00:35:18,884 --> 00:35:20,750
like, why just break that now?"
1026
00:35:20,819 --> 00:35:21,885
- Hmm.
1027
00:35:21,954 --> 00:35:24,621
- What were your feelings
for him then
1028
00:35:24,690 --> 00:35:27,190
and what your feelings
for him now?
1029
00:35:27,259 --> 00:35:28,959
- I did love you.
1030
00:35:29,027 --> 00:35:30,827
Indeed, I did.
1031
00:35:30,896 --> 00:35:33,363
Reconnecting with you now,
1032
00:35:33,432 --> 00:35:35,532
it made me miss
how you treated me.
1033
00:35:35,601 --> 00:35:38,001
I would like
to get to know you again.
1034
00:35:38,070 --> 00:35:41,138
I would love to, like,
start something with Stephen,
1035
00:35:41,206 --> 00:35:44,508
and if you're willing
and open to,
1036
00:35:44,576 --> 00:35:46,843
I do see that in our future.
1037
00:35:46,912 --> 00:35:49,279
Maybe there could be
something there again.
1038
00:35:49,348 --> 00:35:51,448
♪ ♪
1039
00:35:51,517 --> 00:35:53,550
- I wanna just check in
with Steve.
1040
00:35:53,619 --> 00:35:54,885
Hang tight.
1041
00:35:54,953 --> 00:35:56,653
We'll come back to you
in a few minutes
1042
00:35:56,722 --> 00:35:58,555
after we chat quickly.
1043
00:35:58,624 --> 00:35:59,756
- All right, sounds great.
1044
00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:02,225
[dings]
- [sighs]
1045
00:36:02,294 --> 00:36:03,627
I don't know.
1046
00:36:03,695 --> 00:36:06,796
I'm always the one that's
like, "Nah, [bleep] that,"
1047
00:36:06,865 --> 00:36:10,267
but now I'm like, "I get it."
1048
00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:11,568
[laughs]
1049
00:36:11,637 --> 00:36:13,270
I kind of understand.
1050
00:36:13,338 --> 00:36:16,206
Parts of it could've really
been things that were happening
1051
00:36:16,275 --> 00:36:17,674
in her real life,
1052
00:36:17,743 --> 00:36:21,711
and she was maybe coping
with it by roleplaying it out
1053
00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:23,613
on the internet, which is...
1054
00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:25,215
- It's a coping mechanism.
1055
00:36:25,284 --> 00:36:28,285
- Yeah, she seems like she's in
a much better place.
1056
00:36:28,353 --> 00:36:30,654
- It's one of those things
1057
00:36:30,722 --> 00:36:32,055
that I don't--
1058
00:36:32,124 --> 00:36:34,457
I don't care what the color
of your skin is.
1059
00:36:34,526 --> 00:36:36,126
What does your heart say?
1060
00:36:36,195 --> 00:36:38,061
- Yeah, there are some things
to talk about here,
1061
00:36:38,130 --> 00:36:39,362
but at the same time,
it's, like,
1062
00:36:39,431 --> 00:36:42,599
I'm doing everything I can
not to just be excited
1063
00:36:42,668 --> 00:36:45,702
because she's cute,
she seems nice,
1064
00:36:45,771 --> 00:36:48,104
she seems to like you.
1065
00:36:48,173 --> 00:36:49,873
- I don't know.
So what do you think?
1066
00:36:49,942 --> 00:36:52,309
Like, are you gonna give her
a chance or...
1067
00:36:52,377 --> 00:36:55,245
[exciting music]
1068
00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:57,180
[dramatic music]
1069
00:36:57,249 --> 00:36:58,448
- What do you think?
1070
00:36:58,517 --> 00:36:59,616
Like, are you gonna
give her a chance?
1071
00:36:59,685 --> 00:37:02,018
♪ ♪
1072
00:37:02,087 --> 00:37:04,554
- I do know this:
1073
00:37:04,623 --> 00:37:07,390
I'm open to everything,
so I can...
1074
00:37:07,459 --> 00:37:10,760
I mean, I will talk.
I'm not gonna just poof.
1075
00:37:10,829 --> 00:37:13,797
- However you feel, and however
you wanna move forward...
1076
00:37:13,865 --> 00:37:15,198
♪ ♪
1077
00:37:15,267 --> 00:37:16,600
You should be honest about that
1078
00:37:16,668 --> 00:37:18,501
and be very clear
and upfront with that.
1079
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:20,203
I think it can
just be something
1080
00:37:20,272 --> 00:37:22,672
that can naturally happen.
1081
00:37:22,741 --> 00:37:24,641
- Do you wanna message her
and tell her to hop back on
1082
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:28,578
and have, like,
a final kind of convo
1083
00:37:28,647 --> 00:37:31,982
about the past,
the present, and the future?
1084
00:37:32,050 --> 00:37:33,416
- Yeah.
1085
00:37:33,485 --> 00:37:34,684
[dings]
1086
00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:36,219
- Okay.
1087
00:37:36,288 --> 00:37:38,221
Here we are.
We're back.
1088
00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:40,490
- Welcome back.
1089
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:42,392
- And I would love
to just let you
1090
00:37:42,461 --> 00:37:43,994
kind of chat with each other
for a minute.
1091
00:37:44,062 --> 00:37:45,695
[warm music]
1092
00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:48,665
- Okay.
1093
00:37:48,734 --> 00:37:51,101
Would you say you're mad at me
at this point?
1094
00:37:51,169 --> 00:37:54,537
- I'm just glad that
we have that closure now.
1095
00:37:54,606 --> 00:37:58,141
We don't have that big secret
that is just looming over us.
1096
00:37:58,210 --> 00:38:01,678
- Okay, but I am sorry
that I did that to you.
1097
00:38:01,747 --> 00:38:04,080
- Water under the bridge.
1098
00:38:04,149 --> 00:38:06,216
- Okay, at the same time, like,
1099
00:38:06,285 --> 00:38:08,251
would you feel like
1100
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,687
you actually were in love
with Renae?
1101
00:38:10,756 --> 00:38:13,390
♪ ♪
1102
00:38:13,458 --> 00:38:16,559
- I was infatuated, you know,
1103
00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:20,130
you know, what you were
showing me was beautiful,
1104
00:38:20,198 --> 00:38:23,633
but I did know, like, deep down
1105
00:38:23,702 --> 00:38:25,835
I enjoyed...
1106
00:38:25,904 --> 00:38:27,170
♪ ♪
1107
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,005
Talking to you...
1108
00:38:29,074 --> 00:38:31,308
♪ ♪
1109
00:38:31,376 --> 00:38:33,743
Regardless of what
you looked like
1110
00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:36,246
because, you know,
we were, you know,
1111
00:38:36,315 --> 00:38:38,315
going back and forth
just talking
1112
00:38:38,383 --> 00:38:40,817
as the three-dimensional
avatar for months
1113
00:38:40,886 --> 00:38:43,753
before we actually started
talking on Kik.
1114
00:38:43,822 --> 00:38:47,724
So yes and no.
1115
00:38:47,793 --> 00:38:51,428
- I mean, would you like
to keep in contact with me?
1116
00:38:51,496 --> 00:38:53,863
I mean...
1117
00:38:53,932 --> 00:38:55,332
- Absolutely.
1118
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,100
I don't know why--there
would be no reason not to.
1119
00:38:57,169 --> 00:39:00,203
I mean, you're not
some weird old man
1120
00:39:00,272 --> 00:39:01,604
sitting in
his mother's basement
1121
00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:04,474
trying to fool with
weird people on the internet.
1122
00:39:04,543 --> 00:39:07,744
- [laughs]
Okay, okay, okay.
1123
00:39:07,813 --> 00:39:09,145
I'm sorry, I'm...
1124
00:39:09,214 --> 00:39:11,848
- You're fine.
- That's a relief.
1125
00:39:11,917 --> 00:39:13,717
- Though I do have
one important thing to say:
1126
00:39:13,785 --> 00:39:17,153
add me on
your real Facebook please.
1127
00:39:17,222 --> 00:39:18,822
- [laughs]
1128
00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:20,657
For sure, for sure.
1129
00:39:20,726 --> 00:39:21,991
I will do that.
I will do that.
1130
00:39:22,060 --> 00:39:24,394
- There we go, Scooba.
Demanding [bleep] finally.
1131
00:39:24,463 --> 00:39:26,863
- Right, right.
[laughter]
1132
00:39:26,932 --> 00:39:29,265
And, Scooba, pursuing
more than a friendship,
1133
00:39:29,334 --> 00:39:31,201
where are you on that?
1134
00:39:31,269 --> 00:39:32,902
- You know,
we are in different states.
1135
00:39:32,971 --> 00:39:35,605
I don't expect you not to be
on your own dating app,
1136
00:39:35,674 --> 00:39:38,241
finding people local to you,
1137
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:40,744
so gotta test the waters
on that one.
1138
00:39:40,812 --> 00:39:43,780
- Like you said, just 'cause,
like, we made it work back then
1139
00:39:43,849 --> 00:39:45,882
doesn't mean we can
necessarily make it work now.
1140
00:39:45,951 --> 00:39:47,083
- Right.
1141
00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:48,685
- I think, if anything,
1142
00:39:48,754 --> 00:39:51,488
not pursuing this
would be silly.
1143
00:39:51,556 --> 00:39:52,856
- Yeah.
1144
00:39:52,924 --> 00:39:55,892
- I'm glad, Scooba, that you
are willing to pursue that
1145
00:39:55,961 --> 00:39:58,061
and see where that can go
1146
00:39:58,130 --> 00:40:00,230
even if it's just an even
longer term friendship.
1147
00:40:00,298 --> 00:40:01,498
- Oh, yeah.
1148
00:40:01,566 --> 00:40:04,667
- Kishana, I wanna see you
add him now.
1149
00:40:04,736 --> 00:40:05,902
- Mm-hmm.
1150
00:40:05,971 --> 00:40:08,338
- What do you use more?
Facebook, Instagram?
1151
00:40:08,407 --> 00:40:11,040
- Damn, on the spot!
1152
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:12,642
- Okay.
[laughs]
1153
00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:15,011
- I want the digital connection
official.
1154
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,246
- [laughs]
1155
00:40:16,314 --> 00:40:17,680
- I can add you on Snapchat
1156
00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:19,249
'cause that's what
I'm primarily on.
1157
00:40:19,317 --> 00:40:20,784
- Okay.
1158
00:40:20,852 --> 00:40:22,819
- All right so, Scooba,
hold up your Snapchat code.
1159
00:40:22,888 --> 00:40:24,788
Did you find him?
- Yeah, I found him.
1160
00:40:24,856 --> 00:40:25,655
- All right, did it work?
1161
00:40:25,724 --> 00:40:27,390
Let's see, I wanna see the add.
1162
00:40:27,459 --> 00:40:28,892
I wanna see the official.
1163
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,094
Okay, happened.
- And then accepted.
1164
00:40:31,163 --> 00:40:33,062
- Love it.
1165
00:40:33,131 --> 00:40:34,631
Okay, it's official.
1166
00:40:34,699 --> 00:40:36,433
This "Catfish" case is closed.
1167
00:40:36,501 --> 00:40:38,868
Who knows what the future
might hold?
1168
00:40:38,937 --> 00:40:40,303
[Thomas Stubbs and Samantha
Powell's "To Get to You"]
1169
00:40:40,372 --> 00:40:41,805
- All right, guys,
all the best.
1170
00:40:41,873 --> 00:40:43,139
- Thank you.
1171
00:40:43,208 --> 00:40:47,010
- ♪ To get to you ♪
1172
00:40:47,078 --> 00:40:50,013
♪ Ooh ♪
1173
00:40:50,081 --> 00:40:51,414
♪ ♪
1174
00:40:51,483 --> 00:40:55,718
♪ To get to you ♪
1175
00:40:57,689 --> 00:40:59,689
- Two years ago,
Dejuan met Tynea on Tinder.
1176
00:40:59,758 --> 00:41:02,625
- She's an exotic dancer,
so that really caught my eye.
1177
00:41:02,694 --> 00:41:04,461
That was, like,
the icing on the cake.
1178
00:41:04,529 --> 00:41:06,196
- I'm sure it was.
1179
00:41:06,264 --> 00:41:08,164
- I do know that
she has a twin sister.
1180
00:41:08,233 --> 00:41:09,332
- Whoa.
Oh, my God.
1181
00:41:09,401 --> 00:41:10,733
- There's no pictures
of them together.
1182
00:41:10,802 --> 00:41:13,036
- I'm not so sure
there's even a twin sister.
1183
00:41:13,104 --> 00:41:14,037
- Something ain't right.
[dings]
1184
00:41:14,105 --> 00:41:14,971
- Oh.
- What the...