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- Victoria first started
talking with Anthony
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when she was 16.
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- I trust him with my feelings.
- Why do you trust him?
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- What could he possibly
be lying about?
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- Is he in a relationship?
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- Oh, Anthony. Go back.
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He said,
"I don't trust Victoria."
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- What?
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He is coming.
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Oh!
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- Max is 40.
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- Mm-hmm.
- He's thriving.
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And you missed a great party.
- I know.
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I'm really sad
I missed the birthday.
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I am. I'm sad I missed it.
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- You sent him a nice message,
though?
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Or was there a birthday post?
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- I'm starting to feel faint.
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[laughter]
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Back to work.
Max would want us
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to get back to work.
- Mm, he definitely would.
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All right,
we got an email here
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from Victoria G.
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"Hey, Nev and Kamie,
I'm Victoria."
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- She actually said
"Kamie and Nev," but...
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- You know what? You're right.
I somehow saw that--
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- Yep, it's fine.
- I read that wrong.
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- ♪ You wanna ♪
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- "Hey, Kamie and Nev,
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"I'm Victoria.
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"I'm 24 years old
and from Austin, Texas.
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"I've been in a relationship
with a guy named Anthony
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"since I was 16.
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"I know what you're thinking,
but he's really great.
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"He's 29, a model,
and lives in Los Angeles.
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"He was my first online friend
and boyfriend.
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"He's seen me grow up
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and has helped me through
all my firsts."
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- ♪ You wanna feel it like
you felt it on the first try ♪
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- "He's been there
for me all these years.
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We talk a lot."
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- ♪ I wanna feel it like
I felt it on the first try ♪
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- "He's everything I want
in a guy.
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"He's funny,
he has his stuff together,
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and he's fine as hell."
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- Purr.
- "But in the eight years
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"I've known him,
we have never had a FaceTime
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"or even a phone conversation.
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"And recently
when I pressed him on it,
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"we got into a fight
and he blocked me.
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"I'm fed up,
but I still care about him.
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"I hold every guy
to the Anthony-standard,
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"and I can't move on
until I get some answers.
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"Please help.
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Victoria."
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- [clears throat]
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- You know, obviously,
on one hand,
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this guy sounds great.
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He's been this guidepost
for her
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along the eight years
of her life
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where she's grown and matured,
and he's been there for her.
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- And they have
this weird "relationship."
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- They've never talked
on the phone.
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So what kind of relationship
are you really having?
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- Should we call her?
- Yes.
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She needs our help.
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- Hello, hello.
It's Nev and Kamie.
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- Victoria.
- Oh, excuse me.
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It's Kamie and Nev.
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- Yeah, Kamie first.
It's Kamie first.
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- We just read your email
and Kamie pointed out
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that you wrote
"Dear Kamie and Nev."
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- Mm-hmm.
- And I was curious
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why you did that.
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- Okay.
- Yes, exactly.
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See? You know the vibes.
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- Anyway, Victoria,
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we just obviously read
your email.
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Whoo, we got some questions.
- Mm-hmm.
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- You want answers.
So do we.
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- You live in Texas,
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but "Anthony" lives
in Los Angeles.
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- Allegedly.
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- So could you come
just meet us here?
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And if it turns out
that he's here,
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that'll save us both a flight.
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- All right. Well, great.
So we'll fly you out here
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and figure this
Anthony mystery out.
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- See you soon.
- See you soon.
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- Bye.
- She sounds with it.
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- She sounds very mature.
- She sounds great.
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She sounds mature,
so what is she doing
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talking to Anthony
for eight years?
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- All right.
Well, I guess we'll find out.
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All right.
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Victoria Beckoned.
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- That's clever.
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- Here we are.
[both laugh]
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- I'm excited to meet her.
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Victoria?
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- What's up?
- Hi.
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Good to meet you.
- Nice meeting you.
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Oh, my gosh,
you're so beautiful.
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- Oh, thank you so much.
I love your lashes.
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- Thank you.
- Thank you.
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- Nice to meet you.
- It is nice to meet you.
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- Have you been to LA before?
- No.
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- You look so pretty.
- Thank you.
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- Welcome--
- Howdy, howdy.
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- I got a lot of questions.
- I bet.
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- I mean...
- Mm-hmm.
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- Well, my main question
is you've been talking
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to this guy for so long.
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You live not that far away.
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How have you not tried
to come here and meet him?
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- It's definitely come up,
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and then it would always
be like,
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"I'm busy."
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- They're always busy,
aren't they?
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- Always.
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- Your suite, madame.
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- This is definitely nice.
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- Whoo!
- [sighs]
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- We're glad you're here.
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- Me too.
Thank you for helping me.
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- Okay, so take us back.
- Yeah.
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- Tell us the whole--
- From the jump.
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- So taking it
all the way back,
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I was 16.
I was still in high school.
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He randomly added me
on Snapchat.
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From there
we just started talking.
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- And are you sending photos
to each other?
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- He sent me one picture.
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Um--
- On Snapchat?
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- On Snapchat.
And then he was like,
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"Send me pics back," like,
so it just kind of turned
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into me sending pictures back
and then him talking to me
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in a romantic way.
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Never messaged him
on Instagram.
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- Does he have an Instagram
or...
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- Yeah, I found it by myself.
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- When you first were talking?
- Mm-hmm.
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- And how do you know
it was his Instagram?
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- Well,
it was his first and last name.
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- And did you follow
his Instagram?
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- Mm-mm, I was like,
if you're not following me,
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I'm not gonna follow you.
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So still talking to him
when I'm 16, 17,
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but when I was 18,
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I got my first
real-life boyfriend.
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- Mm.
- That was a problem.
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Cussed me out,
so I just blocked him.
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- Blocked his number?
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- Well, on the Snapchat.
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- Oh, still only on Snapchat?
- Mm-hmm.
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- So you never had
his phone number?
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- Not until I turned 21.
- The Snapchat--
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was his Snapchat his full name?
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- No, it was [bleep]master.
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- And his Instagram
was [bleep]master too?
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- No, so I knew his first
and last name.
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- [laughing]
- 'Cause he gave it to me.
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Anthony Foust.
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So I got my boyfriend, 18,
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and then my relationship lasted
until I was 21.
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And that's when he came back.
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- So you guys start talking?
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- Mm-hmm.
- You get his number?
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- Yeah, and then his number
since then has changed
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every year.
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- His number has changed
every year?
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- Yes.
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- Does he ever say why?
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- Mm-mm.
- And--
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- [laughs]
- Well, do you text him
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on these numbers?
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- Yeah.
- But you never talk?
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- Mm-mm.
- So what's happened
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in the last few years then?
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- It's progressed
into us kind of, like,
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risqué talking
and risqué photos.
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But also he's there for me
when I need him.
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Like, he was there
when I got my first apartment.
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He was there
when I got my first car.
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My first, like, grown-up job.
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Like, all those firsts.
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- It's nice
to have somebody like that.
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- Yeah, and also
he has his [bleep] together.
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Like, he has a job,
he's always traveling.
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Like, things like that
I'm looking for.
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- So you believe Anthony
is exactly what he says?
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- Yeah.
I trust him with my feelings.
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- Why do you trust him?
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- What could he possibly
be lying about?
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- Well, for starters,
what he looks like.
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Because otherwise why wouldn't
he get on a quick FaceTime
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or send you a video?
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He's a model.
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- Well, models have bad days.
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- Yeah,
but not bad eight years.
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[both laugh]
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- What about the fight?
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In your email
you said you got into a fight.
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- So one day,
he's messaging me
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and he said, and I quote,
"Pop a titty."
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And I was just like,
you know what?
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I don't know
why we've never FaceTimed,
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why we've never talked
on the phone.
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And I literally said,
I was like,
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"I'ma write 'Catfish.'"
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And he's like,
"Go ahead and do it."
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And I said "Okay."
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And then he blocked me.
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- And you still think
that this person
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is not lying to you?
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- Yeah.
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- Huh.
- I need to see him.
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- Yeah. Show us your man.
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- So here's his Instagram.
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- This is the Instagram of him
that you found?
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- Yeah.
- Anthony Foust.
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Los Angeles.
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There's a lot of content
on here.
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He's buff.
- Mm-hmm.
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- He's cute.
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And when he's talking
about these modeling jobs--
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- He's not being specific.
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Just his modeling?
- Just modeling.
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- I'm concerned.
- [laughs]
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- Anytime the word "model"
pops up on our show--
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- I have concerns.
- I have concerns.
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- Do people know
that you've got this friend
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Anthony that you talk to?
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- Um, I mean, I try to tell,
like, my friends,
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and then they were kinda like,
"That's weird."
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But my friend Kia, she knows.
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Like she's known
since I was 16.
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- Oh, wow.
- To now.
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- So she knows everything?
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She knows all the details
from start to finish?
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- Yeah.
- But she's the only one?
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- Yeah.
- What's her deal?
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Does she have a man?
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- She has a girlfriend.
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- Yeah, that's
very presumptuous of you.
254
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- [laughs]
- Well, I was trying to get
255
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to whether or not she might
be interested in women.
256
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- Oh.
257
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- Because maybe
it's your friend.
258
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- No.
259
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We've been friends
since the second grade,
260
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so I don't think, like,
she would randomly one day--
261
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I'm 16--just randomly
just add me.
262
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- Yeah,
and you feel pretty confidently
263
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that it's him--
that it's this guy?
264
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- Clearly, there's some things
that ring bells in my head.
265
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I'm not stupid, but like--
- Red flags.
266
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- Yeah, I just wanna know
like all these years, like,
267
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who have I been confiding in
this whole entire time?
268
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- All right.
Well, I wanna know.
269
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- Me too.
270
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We've got our marching orders.
271
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Send us an email.
All the info that you have.
272
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Everything.
- Okay.
273
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- We'll get back to you.
274
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Bye.
- Bye.
275
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- Always a model.
276
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All right.
Well, what do you think?
277
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I mean, come on.
278
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- You already know.
- It's obviously not that guy.
279
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- Obviously.
280
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I think that the idea
of Anthony
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that Victoria's created
in her mind
282
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is that
of her 16-year-old self.
283
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- The timing wasn't right.
284
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And it's been almost a decade,
285
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and now the timing could
finally be right.
286
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If the one guy
that she's been sort of using
287
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as her gold standard
ends up being full of [bleep],
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where does that leave her?
289
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- We're gonna find out.
290
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One way or another.
291
00:09:54,966 --> 00:09:56,900
{\an7}- Let’s do it.
292
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{\an7}- [humming]
293
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{\an7}[upbeat music]
294
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{\an7}- All right.
295
00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:03,702
{\an7}We’ve got a lovely young woman,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hVictoria, 24.
296
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{\an7}And when she was 16,
297
00:10:04,834 --> 00:10:06,527
{\an7}Anthony followed her
\h\h\h\hon Snapchat.
298
00:10:06,527 --> 00:10:08,230
{\an7}\h\h\h\hShe was into the fact
that he had his life together.
299
00:10:08,230 --> 00:10:11,098
{\an7}They talk for a few years,
but then Victoria ended up
300
00:10:11,098 --> 00:10:13,834
{\an7}\h\h\hgetting a real boyfriend,
who she dated for three years.
301
00:10:13,834 --> 00:10:16,834
{\an7}When it finished, she got back
\h\h\h\hin touch with Anthony.
302
00:10:16,834 --> 00:10:18,527
{\an7}And they’ve been talking
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hever since.
303
00:10:18,527 --> 00:10:19,999
{\an7}- Most of their conversations
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hare on Snap.
304
00:10:19,999 --> 00:10:21,999
{\an7}- Right, but she found
\han Instagram account
305
00:10:21,999 --> 00:10:23,131
{\an7}that she believes is him.
306
00:10:23,131 --> 00:10:25,230
{\an7}\hNow, he didn’t share
that account with her,
307
00:10:25,230 --> 00:10:27,933
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\hnor did he follow
or any way engage with her
308
00:10:27,933 --> 00:10:28,900
{\an7}on that Instagram account.
309
00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:32,834
{\an7}But Victoria has been reserving
\h\h\h\h\ha very special place
310
00:10:32,834 --> 00:10:34,164
{\an7}\h\h\h\hin her heart
for this guy Anthony.
311
00:10:34,164 --> 00:10:35,999
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- So let’s see
312
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{\an7}if she sent us an email
\h\hwith all the info.
313
00:10:38,098 --> 00:10:38,900
{\an7}Yes, she did.
314
00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:41,098
{\an7}"Hey, guys, here’s what I know
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\habout Anthony.
315
00:10:41,098 --> 00:10:42,527
{\an7}"His last name is Foust.
316
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{\an7}He’s 29, a model."
317
00:10:43,933 --> 00:10:46,933
{\an7}\h\h\h\hHis phone numbers
are most recently a 917,
318
00:10:46,933 --> 00:10:48,560
{\an7}which is a New York City
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hnumber.
319
00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:50,735
{\an7}\h\h- Mm-hmm.
- And a 347.
320
00:10:50,735 --> 00:10:52,933
{\an7}"His Instagram is Sasukemaki.
321
00:10:52,933 --> 00:10:57,098
{\an7}His Snap is [bleep]master,
but I’m blocked right now."
322
00:10:57,098 --> 00:11:00,164
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Good.
- "Thanks again, Victoria."
323
00:11:00,164 --> 00:11:01,593
{\an7}All right, Kamie.
\h\h- It’s great.
324
00:11:01,593 --> 00:11:02,900
{\an7}\h\h\hWe gotta--
- Ladies’ choice.
325
00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:03,834
{\an7}What do you wanna do first?
326
00:11:03,834 --> 00:11:07,296
{\an7}- I think that we should look
\h\h\h\h\h\hat the Instagram.
327
00:11:07,296 --> 00:11:08,296
{\an7}- Wait. What’s his Instagram?
328
00:11:08,296 --> 00:11:11,560
{\an7}\hSa...sukemaki.
Oh, there he is.
329
00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:13,164
{\an7}Anthony Foust.
330
00:11:13,164 --> 00:11:14,263
{\an7}- Anthony Foust.
331
00:11:14,263 --> 00:11:15,098
{\an7}- Model and musician.
332
00:11:15,098 --> 00:11:16,230
{\an7}Originally from Brooklyn,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hNew York.
333
00:11:16,230 --> 00:11:17,296
{\an7}Currently lives in Los Angeles.
334
00:11:17,296 --> 00:11:18,834
{\an7}- There’s a lot of content
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hon here.
335
00:11:18,834 --> 00:11:22,834
{\an7}\h\h\h- Yeah, right? His page
has some serious engagement.
336
00:11:22,834 --> 00:11:23,867
{\an7}- It does.
337
00:11:23,867 --> 00:11:25,230
{\an7}- I mean, it feels legit.
338
00:11:25,230 --> 00:11:28,263
{\an7}\hBut she’s never actually
interacted with this page.
339
00:11:28,263 --> 00:11:29,395
{\an7}- It’s not him.
- It’s not him.
340
00:11:29,395 --> 00:11:31,065
{\an7}\h\hIt can’t be him.
It’s a legit account.
341
00:11:31,065 --> 00:11:33,560
{\an7}Just not who she’s talking to.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
342
00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:34,801
{\an7}- Get anything else.
343
00:11:34,801 --> 00:11:35,900
{\an7}If you have a Snapchat,
344
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{\an7}and you’re comfortable
\h\h\h\hposting photos
345
00:11:37,296 --> 00:11:39,834
{\an7}\h\hon other platforms
because you’re a model,
346
00:11:39,834 --> 00:11:41,296
{\an7}you’d post a picture
\h\h\h\hof yourself.
347
00:11:41,296 --> 00:11:42,329
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- Like it’s crazy.
348
00:11:42,329 --> 00:11:44,560
{\an7}- Yes, but it’s like how
\h\h\h\hcan we prove it?
349
00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,593
{\an7}- Well, hopefully by getting
\h\h\h\h\hin touch with him.
350
00:11:46,593 --> 00:11:49,098
{\an7}All right, let’s send him
\h\han Instagram message.
351
00:11:49,098 --> 00:11:51,230
{\an7}Hey, Anthony.
352
00:11:51,230 --> 00:11:51,900
{\an7}Okay, sent.
353
00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:55,065
{\an7}Okay, so I wanna just, like,
\h\h\h\hreach out to someone
354
00:11:55,065 --> 00:11:58,329
{\an7}who looks like is close friends
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith him.
355
00:11:58,329 --> 00:11:59,999
{\an7}\h\hWho is this guy?
- My little brother.
356
00:11:59,999 --> 00:12:02,834
{\an7}- Oh. Oh, here he is.
\h\h\h\h\hKingsouley.
357
00:12:02,834 --> 00:12:03,966
{\an7}So let’s message this guy.
358
00:12:03,966 --> 00:12:05,966
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h"Hey, this is Nev
from the Tv show "Catfish."
359
00:12:05,966 --> 00:12:08,834
{\an7}"We could use your help
\h\h\h\h\hwith a case."
360
00:12:08,834 --> 00:12:09,834
{\an7}- Mm-hmm.
361
00:12:09,834 --> 00:12:12,164
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- All right.
So let’s keep on going here
362
00:12:12,164 --> 00:12:14,636
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\hand let’s, uh,
I guess run the numbers?
363
00:12:14,636 --> 00:12:16,933
{\an7}I mean, I know these
\hare gonna be bogus.
364
00:12:16,933 --> 00:12:17,702
{\an7}[tense music]
365
00:12:17,702 --> 00:12:20,197
{\an7}\h\hOkay, so this number
comes back with nothing.
366
00:12:20,197 --> 00:12:24,065
{\an7}Let’s try the other old number
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hjust in case.
367
00:12:24,065 --> 00:12:24,999
{\an7}Ooh, five possible owners.
368
00:12:24,999 --> 00:12:28,197
{\an7}How is this number coming back
\hto so many different people?
369
00:12:28,197 --> 00:12:31,834
{\an7}Anthony Ny, Anthony Meany.
370
00:12:31,834 --> 00:12:34,263
{\an7}- Oh, Anthony N-Y.
371
00:12:34,263 --> 00:12:37,702
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm.
- So maybe whenever "Anthony"
372
00:12:37,702 --> 00:12:39,867
{\an7}registered the number
\h\h\h\hfor himself--
373
00:12:39,867 --> 00:12:41,702
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right.
- He must’ve made it
374
00:12:41,702 --> 00:12:43,867
{\an7}under Anthony NY, New York.
375
00:12:43,867 --> 00:12:46,329
{\an7}[cell phone ringing]
\h- Oh, oh! H-Hello?
376
00:12:46,329 --> 00:12:48,999
{\an7}- Hey, this is Nev. Who’s this?
377
00:12:52,966 --> 00:12:53,834
{\an7}- Oh, amazing.
378
00:12:53,834 --> 00:12:56,801
{\an7}We saw you because Sasuke--
379
00:12:58,296 --> 00:12:59,735
{\an7}- Oh, okay. Cool.
380
00:12:59,735 --> 00:13:02,296
{\an7}- He posted a picture of you
\h\h\h\h\h\hon his Instagram.
381
00:13:02,296 --> 00:13:05,801
{\an7}- Do you know who I am
and the TV show I make?
382
00:13:06,768 --> 00:13:07,527
{\an7}- Oh, great. Okay.
383
00:13:07,527 --> 00:13:09,098
{\an7}We’re making an episode
of the show right now.
384
00:13:09,098 --> 00:13:15,428
{\an7}And we suspect that someone’s
been using Anthony’s pictures
385
00:13:15,428 --> 00:13:18,032
{\an7}and pretending to be him.
386
00:13:19,032 --> 00:13:20,867
{\an7}- For eight years.
387
00:13:21,065 --> 00:13:23,461
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah,
and he’s using his name too,
388
00:13:23,461 --> 00:13:24,428
{\an7}Anthony Foust.
\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
389
00:13:24,428 --> 00:13:28,461
{\an7}- Unless your cousin’s actually
\h\h\hbeen talking to this girl
390
00:13:28,461 --> 00:13:29,296
{\an7}for the last eight years.
391
00:13:29,296 --> 00:13:34,032
{\an7}So the question right now,
\his he in a relationship?
392
00:13:36,098 --> 00:13:38,801
{\an7}- Okay. And as far as you know,
393
00:13:38,801 --> 00:13:41,131
{\an7}he doesn’t have a friend
\h\h\h\h\hwho he’s known
394
00:13:41,131 --> 00:13:46,098
{\an7}\h\h\h\hfor a long time online
called, um, Victoria, does he?
395
00:13:48,395 --> 00:13:50,098
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right.
I also messaged him,
396
00:13:50,098 --> 00:13:51,428
{\an7}and I’m hoping he’ll get back
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto me
397
00:13:51,428 --> 00:13:54,768
{\an7}’cause I would love to ask--
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
398
00:13:56,966 --> 00:13:58,263
{\an7}- All right, amazing.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay.
399
00:13:58,263 --> 00:13:59,098
{\an7}- If you speak to him,
400
00:13:59,098 --> 00:14:00,834
{\an7}please let him know
that we would love
401
00:14:00,834 --> 00:14:02,230
{\an7}to talk to him.
\h- Thank you.
402
00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:04,032
{\an7}- Yeah, thanks so much, man.
403
00:14:04,461 --> 00:14:05,801
{\an7}- Later.
\h- Bye.
404
00:14:05,801 --> 00:14:08,768
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- All right, so whoa.
Lotta surprises in that call.
405
00:14:08,768 --> 00:14:10,362
{\an7}- Lotta surprises.
\h\h- First of all,
406
00:14:10,362 --> 00:14:12,461
{\an7}Anthony is married.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
407
00:14:12,461 --> 00:14:15,164
{\an7}- So even if it is him,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hnot good.
408
00:14:15,164 --> 00:14:15,900
{\an7}Second of all,
409
00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:17,834
{\an7}\h\hthis friend has never
obviously heard him talk
410
00:14:17,834 --> 00:14:20,098
{\an7}about anyone named Victoria.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm.
411
00:14:20,098 --> 00:14:22,065
{\an7}- So the chances
\hof it being him
412
00:14:22,065 --> 00:14:23,933
{\an7}are getting infinitely smaller.
413
00:14:23,933 --> 00:14:26,834
{\an7}\h\hEven if it is him,
when Victoria finds out
414
00:14:26,834 --> 00:14:29,296
{\an7}that the real Anthony
\h\h\h\h\his married,
415
00:14:29,296 --> 00:14:32,230
{\an7}she’s gonna be very upset.
416
00:14:34,328 --> 00:14:35,262
{\an7}[knock at door]
417
00:14:35,262 --> 00:14:37,064
{\an7}[upbeat music]
418
00:14:37,064 --> 00:14:38,724
{\an7}- Hey.
- Hey.
419
00:14:38,724 --> 00:14:40,361
{\an7}\h\h- Ooh.
- Ooh, wow.
420
00:14:40,361 --> 00:14:44,064
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- Right.
- Oh, looking good.
421
00:14:44,064 --> 00:14:46,163
{\an7}- What’s up?
\h- Nothing.
422
00:14:46,163 --> 00:14:47,130
{\an7}- You haven’t heard anything?
423
00:14:47,130 --> 00:14:49,361
{\an7}Last night, you didn’t
get hit up by anybody?
424
00:14:49,361 --> 00:14:50,262
{\an7}- Nope. Nothing.
425
00:14:50,262 --> 00:14:52,163
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- All right.
Well, look, found some stuff
426
00:14:52,163 --> 00:14:54,724
{\an7}that I think you should see
\h\h\hthat’s helped get us
427
00:14:54,724 --> 00:14:56,130
{\an7}a little bit closer
\hto understanding
428
00:14:56,130 --> 00:14:57,031
{\an7}what’s going on here.
429
00:14:57,031 --> 00:14:59,163
{\an7}\h\h\h- Okay.
- All right.
430
00:14:59,163 --> 00:15:02,922
{\an7}So his Instagram name
\h\h\his Sasukemaki.
431
00:15:02,922 --> 00:15:05,229
{\an7}\h\hLots of posts.
Lots of engagement.
432
00:15:05,229 --> 00:15:06,295
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- Okay.
- It’s active.
433
00:15:06,295 --> 00:15:11,262
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\hThis seems to suggest
that Anthony is a real person.
434
00:15:11,262 --> 00:15:13,757
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm.
- But is this the Anthony
435
00:15:13,757 --> 00:15:15,427
{\an7}you’re talking to?
436
00:15:15,427 --> 00:15:17,724
{\an7}So we did some phone searches.
437
00:15:17,724 --> 00:15:19,856
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm.
- One of the numbers comes back
438
00:15:19,856 --> 00:15:21,823
{\an7}to five potential owners,
439
00:15:21,823 --> 00:15:23,823
{\an7}one of which is Anthony NY,
440
00:15:23,823 --> 00:15:27,427
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hor New York,
which seems somewhat promising.
441
00:15:27,427 --> 00:15:28,262
{\an7}The next thing we did
442
00:15:28,262 --> 00:15:29,790
{\an7}is we sort of went through
\h\h\h\h\h\hhis Instagram.
443
00:15:29,790 --> 00:15:33,031
{\an7}\h\hHis most recent photo
is a screenshot of, uh,--
444
00:15:33,031 --> 00:15:34,823
{\an7}\h\h- A FaceTime.
- Him FaceTiming.
445
00:15:34,823 --> 00:15:37,163
{\an7}We ended up talking
\h\hto kingsouley.
446
00:15:37,163 --> 00:15:39,823
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd we just said,
"Hey, how do you know Anthony?
447
00:15:39,823 --> 00:15:42,790
{\an7}\h\h\h\hWhat’s his deal?
Is he in a relationship?"
448
00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:45,262
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- He’s like,
"Yeah, he’s married.
449
00:15:45,262 --> 00:15:47,229
{\an7}And he has a daughter."
450
00:15:47,229 --> 00:15:48,998
{\an7}- What?
451
00:15:48,998 --> 00:15:50,427
{\an7}- So that obviously came
\h\h\h\h\h\h\has a shock.
452
00:15:50,427 --> 00:15:51,361
{\an7}If it is him,
453
00:15:51,361 --> 00:15:54,163
{\an7}what’s he doing talking to you
\h\h\h\h\h\hwhile he’s married?
454
00:15:54,163 --> 00:15:57,229
{\an7}- Like, I wouldn’t just send
\h\h\hnudes to a married man.
455
00:15:57,229 --> 00:15:58,031
{\an7}That’s not my thing.
456
00:15:58,031 --> 00:16:00,757
{\an7}- Or is it potentially someone
\h\h\h\h\h\hentirely different?
457
00:16:00,757 --> 00:16:04,460
{\an7}\h\hSomeone stealing both
his photos and his name.
458
00:16:04,460 --> 00:16:06,757
{\an7}Look, whenever we are dealing
\h\h\h\h\h\hwith a situation
459
00:16:06,757 --> 00:16:09,031
{\an7}where someone’s been talking
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor this long--
460
00:16:09,031 --> 00:16:10,064
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm.
- And they’ve never been
461
00:16:10,064 --> 00:16:12,460
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\hon the phone,
there’s always a chance
462
00:16:12,460 --> 00:16:13,295
{\an7}that it could be someone
463
00:16:13,295 --> 00:16:15,427
{\an7}whose voice you either
\h\hwould recognize...
464
00:16:15,427 --> 00:16:18,163
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- Or it the sort of opposite
465
00:16:18,163 --> 00:16:20,757
{\an7}gender than what’d you expect.
466
00:16:21,790 --> 00:16:23,064
{\an7}- I don’t know who would do
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthis to me.
467
00:16:23,064 --> 00:16:25,196
{\an7}- Do you have any friends
\h\h\h\h\hfrom New York?
468
00:16:25,196 --> 00:16:26,427
{\an7}- Yeah, Kia’s from New York.
469
00:16:26,427 --> 00:16:27,823
{\an7}\hHer girlfriend’s
from New York too.
470
00:16:27,823 --> 00:16:29,196
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Is that
a long-term relationship?
471
00:16:29,196 --> 00:16:31,856
{\an7}- Um, they’ve been together
\hfor like a year, I think.
472
00:16:31,856 --> 00:16:34,196
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay,
so not like forever, but--
473
00:16:34,196 --> 00:16:35,163
{\an7}\h\h- Yeah.
- A while.
474
00:16:35,163 --> 00:16:36,262
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- But you’ve never had
475
00:16:36,262 --> 00:16:39,559
{\an7}any reason to believe that Kia
\h\h\hhas a crush on you or...
476
00:16:39,559 --> 00:16:41,064
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- Oh, no.
- Liked you before?
477
00:16:41,064 --> 00:16:42,856
{\an7}- Oh, no. Absolutely not.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- No.
478
00:16:42,856 --> 00:16:45,163
{\an7}- I still think it’s Anthony.
479
00:16:45,163 --> 00:16:45,691
{\an7}[laughs]
480
00:16:45,691 --> 00:16:48,163
{\an7}- But would that even be
\h\h\h\h\h\ha good thing?
481
00:16:48,163 --> 00:16:50,031
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Girl.
- Well, now that like
482
00:16:50,031 --> 00:16:52,493
{\an7}if he’s married, of course not.
483
00:16:52,493 --> 00:16:54,559
{\an7}But, like, I don’t know.
484
00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:56,361
{\an7}- Well, we did message him.
485
00:16:56,361 --> 00:16:58,592
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- That’s true.
- And he didn’t respond.
486
00:16:58,592 --> 00:16:59,955
{\an7}Why would you not respond?
487
00:16:59,955 --> 00:17:01,427
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- If you’re not doing anything.
488
00:17:01,427 --> 00:17:03,592
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Like,
it makes me feel uneasy.
489
00:17:03,592 --> 00:17:05,163
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hLike,
’cause it’s been eight years.
490
00:17:05,163 --> 00:17:08,328
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\hWho knows about me,
and I don’t know about them?
491
00:17:08,328 --> 00:17:11,559
{\an7}- Check our messages.
Maybe he messaged us.
492
00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:14,130
{\an7}- Oh, he wrote back.
\h\hJust wrote back.
493
00:17:14,130 --> 00:17:14,691
{\an7}- Ooh!
494
00:17:14,691 --> 00:17:16,163
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- He said,
"I don’t trust you
495
00:17:16,163 --> 00:17:18,064
{\an7}"and I don’t trust Victoria.
496
00:17:18,064 --> 00:17:19,427
{\an7}But we need to talk,
\h\h\hand I think..."
497
00:17:19,427 --> 00:17:23,823
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- What?
- "It needs to be in person."
498
00:17:23,823 --> 00:17:25,394
{\an7}\h\h\h- What?
[phone chimes]
499
00:17:25,394 --> 00:17:28,592
{\an7}- "I’m at Mineral Wells
\h\h\hin Griffith Park.
500
00:17:28,592 --> 00:17:31,889
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\hMeet here?"
Okay, Anthony. Fine.
501
00:17:31,889 --> 00:17:36,361
{\an7}We will meet you there.
502
00:17:36,361 --> 00:17:42,064
{\an7}I think we should go hear
\hwhat Sasuke has to say.
503
00:17:42,064 --> 00:17:43,394
{\an7}- Saucy Sasuke.
504
00:17:43,394 --> 00:17:44,361
{\an7}- [laughs]
505
00:17:44,361 --> 00:17:46,361
{\an7}- Got a attitude.
506
00:17:46,361 --> 00:17:48,361
{\an7}♪ ♪
507
00:17:48,361 --> 00:17:50,460
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I mean,
I was completely ready
508
00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:56,097
{\an7}to eliminate Sasuke Anthony
\h\hfrom this whole thing.
509
00:17:56,097 --> 00:17:57,295
{\an7}And then that message...
510
00:17:57,295 --> 00:18:01,592
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- "I don’t trust you,
and I don’t trust Victoria."
511
00:18:01,592 --> 00:18:04,196
{\an7}- I didn’t do nothing
\h\h\h\hto that man.
512
00:18:04,196 --> 00:18:06,229
{\an7}- Mineral Wells.
513
00:18:06,229 --> 00:18:09,658
{\an7}♪ ♪
514
00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:12,295
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- All right.
Should we check it out?
515
00:18:12,295 --> 00:18:13,361
{\an7}- Yeah.
516
00:18:13,361 --> 00:18:16,493
{\an7}[suspenseful music]
517
00:18:16,493 --> 00:18:23,922
{\an7}♪ ♪
518
00:18:23,922 --> 00:18:25,493
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I don’t see
why we’re supposed to trust
519
00:18:25,493 --> 00:18:27,625
{\an7}that he’s gonna meet us here.
520
00:18:27,625 --> 00:18:30,295
{\an7}- Oh, here’s someone
coming down the path.
521
00:18:30,295 --> 00:18:31,493
{\an7}\h\h\h- [gasps]
- Right there.
522
00:18:31,493 --> 00:18:32,295
{\an7}- Look, right here.
523
00:18:32,295 --> 00:18:33,955
{\an7}- That’s definitely him, right?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
524
00:18:33,955 --> 00:18:34,691
{\an7}That’s him.
525
00:18:34,691 --> 00:18:37,328
{\an7}And he’s definitely coming in
\h\h\h\hwith some animosity.
526
00:18:37,328 --> 00:18:38,361
{\an7}- Yes.
527
00:18:38,361 --> 00:18:41,064
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- What’s up?
- Hey, man. What’s up?
528
00:18:41,064 --> 00:18:42,097
{\an7}- Hi.
529
00:18:42,097 --> 00:18:43,163
{\an7}- How are you?
530
00:18:43,163 --> 00:18:44,559
{\an7}- Anthony, it’s a pleasure.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Anthony.
531
00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:45,691
{\an7}I wasn’t sure to call you--
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Kamie.
532
00:18:45,691 --> 00:18:47,064
{\an7}\h- Anthony.
- Or Sasuke.
533
00:18:47,064 --> 00:18:49,064
{\an7}- Yeah, it’s whatever.
\h\h\h\hWhatever works.
534
00:18:49,064 --> 00:18:52,361
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay.
- What’s going on right now?
535
00:18:52,361 --> 00:18:53,427
{\an7}- Well, we actually were hoping
536
00:18:53,427 --> 00:18:55,295
{\an7}you might help us figure
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat out.
537
00:18:55,295 --> 00:18:56,724
{\an7}- This...
538
00:18:56,724 --> 00:18:58,427
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h--I don’t do
all this extra [bleep].
539
00:18:58,427 --> 00:19:00,691
{\an7}You feel me? Like I’m personal.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right.
540
00:19:00,691 --> 00:19:02,262
{\an7}- So when I’m getting
threatening messages
541
00:19:02,262 --> 00:19:05,229
{\an7}\htalking about "Don’t talk
to ’Catfish’ and [bleep]"--
542
00:19:05,229 --> 00:19:06,592
{\an7}- Who said that?
\h- A Victoria--
543
00:19:06,592 --> 00:19:08,361
{\an7}a Victoria page.
544
00:19:08,361 --> 00:19:09,295
{\an7}That’s weird to me.
545
00:19:09,295 --> 00:19:12,031
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- All right, well,
let me try and clear this up.
546
00:19:12,031 --> 00:19:14,559
{\an7}All right, so this is Victoria.
547
00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:16,427
{\an7}Since Victoria was a teenager,
548
00:19:16,427 --> 00:19:19,064
{\an7}she’s been talking
to this guy online,
549
00:19:19,064 --> 00:19:22,724
{\an7}\hand he’s told her
his name is Anthony
550
00:19:22,724 --> 00:19:25,163
{\an7}and sent some pictures of you.
551
00:19:25,163 --> 00:19:28,625
{\an7}- I’ve never spoken to her
\h\h\h\h\ha day in my life.
552
00:19:28,625 --> 00:19:31,394
{\an7}[soft somber music]
553
00:19:31,394 --> 00:19:32,625
{\an7}\h\h- So you’re not
the [bleep]master?
554
00:19:32,625 --> 00:19:34,691
{\an7}- Nah, I got a girl.
\h\h\hI got a child.
555
00:19:34,691 --> 00:19:35,856
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right.
- I don’t--I’m not into that.
556
00:19:35,856 --> 00:19:38,196
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\hThat’s too much.
- We didn’t think you were.
557
00:19:38,196 --> 00:19:39,757
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Uh-huh.
- So if you don’t mind,
558
00:19:39,757 --> 00:19:42,130
{\an7}who’s this person--somebody
\h\h\h\h\hwith the account
559
00:19:42,130 --> 00:19:44,427
{\an7}Victoria has been telling you
\h\h\h\h\hnot to talk to us?
560
00:19:44,427 --> 00:19:46,724
{\an7}’Cause that could be
\h\h\hthe same person
561
00:19:46,724 --> 00:19:49,295
{\an7}that Victoria is talking to.
562
00:19:49,295 --> 00:19:50,493
{\an7}- As you can see...
563
00:19:50,493 --> 00:19:52,394
{\an7}- Okay, do you mind if I just?
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah, of course.
564
00:19:52,394 --> 00:19:53,526
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- All right,
so you got a message
565
00:19:53,526 --> 00:19:58,064
{\an7}from a victoriouslylmao
\h\hwith zero followers
566
00:19:58,064 --> 00:20:01,097
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hthat just says,
"Stay away from ’Catfish.’
567
00:20:01,097 --> 00:20:02,394
{\an7}"They’re trying to mess
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith you.
568
00:20:02,394 --> 00:20:03,361
{\an7}Stay away from it."
569
00:20:03,361 --> 00:20:04,460
{\an7}So someone was trying
570
00:20:04,460 --> 00:20:06,394
{\an7}to get you not to talk to us.
571
00:20:06,394 --> 00:20:08,658
{\an7}\h\h- Yeah, basically.
- Because it’s probably
572
00:20:08,658 --> 00:20:10,097
{\an7}the same person.
573
00:20:10,097 --> 00:20:11,130
{\an7}- It’s definitely
the same person.
574
00:20:11,130 --> 00:20:13,097
{\an7}\h\h\h- That’s been pretending
to be you talking to Victoria.
575
00:20:13,097 --> 00:20:15,130
{\an7}- It all makes sense now.
576
00:20:15,130 --> 00:20:18,097
{\an7}\h\h\h- I’m--I’m sorry that
that even happened to you.
577
00:20:18,097 --> 00:20:20,361
{\an7}But...
578
00:20:20,361 --> 00:20:21,559
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hSorry?
You know what I mean.
579
00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:23,493
{\an7}both: It’s not your fault.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
580
00:20:23,493 --> 00:20:25,163
{\an7}\h- All right, well,
we just--we’re trying
581
00:20:25,163 --> 00:20:28,031
{\an7}to clear that up.
582
00:20:28,031 --> 00:20:28,625
{\an7}Huh.
583
00:20:28,625 --> 00:20:30,757
{\an7}Anyway, yeah. Good to meet you.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Pleasure.
584
00:20:30,757 --> 00:20:32,031
{\an7}- Thank you.
\h- Stay up.
585
00:20:32,031 --> 00:20:35,394
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hBe a holy woman.
- [laughing] Good to meet you.
586
00:20:35,394 --> 00:20:36,460
{\an7}Thanks for coming.
587
00:20:36,460 --> 00:20:37,460
{\an7}- Thanks, Anthony.
\h\h\h\h\h- Right.
588
00:20:37,460 --> 00:20:40,130
{\an7}- ♪ Wake up just to see that ♪
589
00:20:40,130 --> 00:20:42,526
{\an7}- [sighs]
590
00:20:42,526 --> 00:20:43,328
{\an7}- ♪ Gone ♪
591
00:20:43,328 --> 00:20:46,262
{\an7}\h- I feel bad ’cause I know
that you still were thinking
592
00:20:46,262 --> 00:20:47,163
{\an7}that it could’ve been him.
593
00:20:47,163 --> 00:20:49,427
{\an7}\h- ♪ Never real,
they never stay ♪
594
00:20:49,427 --> 00:20:53,196
{\an7}♪ When they like you,
\h\h\hthey walk away ♪
595
00:20:53,196 --> 00:20:54,658
{\an7}♪ Oh, oh ♪
596
00:20:54,658 --> 00:20:58,559
{\an7}\h- Like, I can’t say
I don’t feel nothing.
597
00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:00,460
{\an7}And it sucks.
598
00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:02,493
{\an7}I just kinda feel disappointed.
599
00:21:02,493 --> 00:21:04,691
{\an7}Like, I just feel like it’s,
\hlike, gonna be no answers.
600
00:21:04,691 --> 00:21:07,691
{\an7}\h\hLike, I’ve been talking
to this man since I was 16.
601
00:21:07,691 --> 00:21:09,592
{\an7}- ♪ Wake up just to see ♪
602
00:21:09,592 --> 00:21:10,559
{\an7}- And then it’s like
603
00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:12,394
{\an7}I don’t know where to go
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom here.
604
00:21:12,394 --> 00:21:15,790
{\an7}- ♪ Gone ♪
605
00:21:17,856 --> 00:21:19,219
{\an7}- Like eight years,
\h\hlike, it sucks.
606
00:21:19,219 --> 00:21:21,219
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm.
- And then it’s like
607
00:21:21,219 --> 00:21:23,153
{\an7}I don’t know where to go
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom here.
608
00:21:23,153 --> 00:21:25,087
{\an7}So what are the next steps?
609
00:21:25,087 --> 00:21:26,351
{\an7}Like...
610
00:21:26,351 --> 00:21:29,483
{\an7}- Well, we could still text
\h\h\h\htheir phone number.
611
00:21:29,483 --> 00:21:33,757
{\an7}This is Nev from "Catfish."
612
00:21:33,757 --> 00:21:38,658
{\an7}We would love to speak
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith you.
613
00:21:38,658 --> 00:21:40,219
{\an7}Sent.
614
00:21:40,219 --> 00:21:42,790
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\hBut I don’t see why
we don’t potentially also try
615
00:21:42,790 --> 00:21:44,384
{\an7}the Snapchat route.
616
00:21:44,384 --> 00:21:46,483
{\an7}So I’ll just add him here.
617
00:21:46,483 --> 00:21:49,285
{\an7}And potentially try to talk
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto him here.
618
00:21:49,285 --> 00:21:51,219
{\an7}[phone chimes]
\h\h- [gasps]
619
00:21:51,219 --> 00:21:52,120
{\an7}- Oh!
- Oh.
620
00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:55,384
{\an7}- [bleep] added us on Snapchat.
621
00:21:55,384 --> 00:21:57,087
{\an7}[laughs]
622
00:21:57,087 --> 00:21:57,757
{\an7}Should I say hi?
623
00:21:57,757 --> 00:21:59,285
{\an7}- Snapchat is not obvious
\h\h\h\h\h\hthat it’s us.
624
00:21:59,285 --> 00:22:01,351
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- So maybe it’s just a normal--
625
00:22:01,351 --> 00:22:04,186
{\an7}\h- Just--they just checked--
- Be like, "Hey, new friend."
626
00:22:04,186 --> 00:22:07,351
{\an7}\h\h\hBut also, Snapchat,
you can put your location
627
00:22:07,351 --> 00:22:09,153
{\an7}on your profile, right?
628
00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:10,153
{\an7}- Oh, yeah. Look. Oh!
629
00:22:10,153 --> 00:22:11,592
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh.
- They’re on the map. [gasps]
630
00:22:11,592 --> 00:22:13,318
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- What is it,
what is it, what is it?
631
00:22:13,318 --> 00:22:16,384
{\an7}- Charlotte, North Carolina.
632
00:22:16,384 --> 00:22:18,186
{\an7}- That’s where my friend lives.
633
00:22:18,186 --> 00:22:19,592
{\an7}- Which friend?
\h\h\h\h- Kia.
634
00:22:19,592 --> 00:22:20,823
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- It’s him!
- Kia is the friend
635
00:22:20,823 --> 00:22:21,889
{\an7}with the girlfriend?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
636
00:22:21,889 --> 00:22:24,153
{\an7}\h\h\h- That you don’t think
has ever had a crush on you?
637
00:22:24,153 --> 00:22:25,559
{\an7}- It can’t be.
638
00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:27,856
{\an7}Never. Never, never, never.
639
00:22:27,856 --> 00:22:29,120
{\an7}- Well, they’re in Charlotte.
640
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:32,186
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m confident
that we can coax this person
641
00:22:32,186 --> 00:22:33,526
{\an7}into hopefully meeting up
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith us.
642
00:22:33,526 --> 00:22:34,691
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd I think
if we’re in Charlotte,
643
00:22:34,691 --> 00:22:36,823
{\an7}it’s a heck of a lot easier
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto do that.
644
00:22:36,823 --> 00:22:37,691
{\an7}- Yeah.
645
00:22:37,691 --> 00:22:40,120
{\an7}\h\h\h\hMight as well.
I have nothing to lose.
646
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:41,120
{\an7}- Listen.
647
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:45,417
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Buddy.
- We know you’re in NC.
648
00:22:45,417 --> 00:22:48,450
{\an7}Meet you on Friday.
649
00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:51,252
{\an7}[dramatic music]
650
00:22:51,252 --> 00:22:52,691
{\an7}- I know that you wanna think
651
00:22:52,691 --> 00:22:57,186
{\an7}that Kia could not possibly
\hbe responsible for this.
652
00:22:57,186 --> 00:22:58,483
{\an7}But what if it is her?
653
00:22:58,483 --> 00:23:00,691
{\an7}\h- That would take
a detrimental toll
654
00:23:00,691 --> 00:23:02,417
{\an7}on our friendship.
655
00:23:02,417 --> 00:23:04,658
{\an7}[sighs]
656
00:23:04,658 --> 00:23:07,285
{\an7}I don’t even wanna think
\h\h\habout it being her.
657
00:23:07,285 --> 00:23:09,526
{\an7}- I mean, the real question
\his like do you know where
658
00:23:09,526 --> 00:23:10,856
{\an7}in Charlotte your friend lives?
659
00:23:10,856 --> 00:23:13,285
{\an7}- Actually, I think my mom
\h\h\hhas her address too.
660
00:23:13,285 --> 00:23:15,592
{\an7}- Text your mom, and I think
\h\hwe should get outta here,
661
00:23:15,592 --> 00:23:17,922
{\an7}so that we can start getting
\h\hready to leave tomorrow.
662
00:23:17,922 --> 00:23:20,219
{\an7}- Oh, Charlotte.
663
00:23:20,219 --> 00:23:22,691
{\an7}Here we come.
664
00:23:23,252 --> 00:23:26,153
{\an7}- ♪ Yeah ♪
665
00:23:26,153 --> 00:23:28,483
{\an7}♪ Eight in the morning,
\h\h\h\h\h\hwaking up ♪
666
00:23:28,483 --> 00:23:31,186
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- All black?
- All black travel fit.
667
00:23:31,186 --> 00:23:31,988
{\an7}You know?
- Period.
668
00:23:31,988 --> 00:23:33,559
{\an7}- Well, I’ve got a new suitcase
669
00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:34,889
{\an7}that I’m very excited about.
670
00:23:34,889 --> 00:23:35,856
{\an7}- That’s cute.
671
00:23:35,856 --> 00:23:37,757
{\an7}- ♪ Up for me, she said ♪
672
00:23:37,757 --> 00:23:38,559
{\an7}- Any updates? Any news?
673
00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:40,889
{\an7}- I talked to Kia last--
\h\h\hwell, this morning.
674
00:23:40,889 --> 00:23:42,483
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Really?
- I texted her and I was like,
675
00:23:42,483 --> 00:23:44,625
{\an7}"Hey, we’re gonna go
\hto North Carolina."
676
00:23:44,625 --> 00:23:45,823
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hMm-hmm.
- And what’d she say?
677
00:23:45,823 --> 00:23:48,219
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- She said,
"Oh, my God, bitch."
678
00:23:48,219 --> 00:23:49,790
{\an7}- Is excited?
\h\h\h- Yeah.
679
00:23:49,790 --> 00:23:51,153
{\an7}So we left it at that.
680
00:23:51,153 --> 00:23:54,219
{\an7}She hasn’t responded since.
\h\hI think she’s at work.
681
00:23:54,219 --> 00:23:55,219
{\an7}- Right.
\h\h- So.
682
00:23:55,219 --> 00:23:56,559
{\an7}- Oh, my God. All right.
683
00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:59,625
{\an7}Well, look, the Snapchat
\hlocation from yesterday
684
00:23:59,625 --> 00:24:00,757
{\an7}is our best lead right now.
685
00:24:00,757 --> 00:24:02,757
{\an7}At least we know they’re
\h\h\hin North Carolina.
686
00:24:02,757 --> 00:24:04,318
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- So if we’re there,
687
00:24:04,318 --> 00:24:06,790
{\an7}we can start poking around,
\h\hand we can bother them,
688
00:24:06,790 --> 00:24:08,483
{\an7}and maybe we’ll get lucky.
689
00:24:08,483 --> 00:24:10,351
{\an7}All right, you ready?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- No.
690
00:24:10,351 --> 00:24:11,757
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yup.
- We’re gonna do this?
691
00:24:11,757 --> 00:24:12,625
{\an7}- Yeah.
692
00:24:12,625 --> 00:24:13,450
{\an7}\hOne.
- Hey!
693
00:24:13,450 --> 00:24:15,658
{\an7}- ♪ Makin’ ’em talk ♪
694
00:24:15,658 --> 00:24:17,483
{\an7}♪ Makin’ ’em, makin’ ’em ♪
695
00:24:17,483 --> 00:24:19,922
{\an7}♪ Makin’ ’em talk ♪
696
00:24:19,922 --> 00:24:21,384
{\an7}♪ Watch me ♪
697
00:24:21,384 --> 00:24:23,559
{\an7}♪ Makin’ ’em talk ♪
698
00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:25,252
{\an7}- All right.
699
00:24:25,252 --> 00:24:27,252
{\an7}- ♪ Makin’ ’em talk ♪
700
00:24:27,252 --> 00:24:32,285
{\an7}\h\h- Going up to the hotel
until the morning, friends.
701
00:24:32,285 --> 00:24:34,658
{\an7}Logging off.
702
00:24:36,955 --> 00:24:37,922
{\an7}- All right. Good morning.
703
00:24:37,922 --> 00:24:40,417
{\an7}- Good morning.
- Good morning.
704
00:24:40,417 --> 00:24:43,219
{\an7}- Well, we haven’t heard
\h\hanything back still.
705
00:24:43,219 --> 00:24:44,417
{\an7}- I did text him.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh.
706
00:24:44,417 --> 00:24:45,691
{\an7}- Texted Anthony?
\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
707
00:24:45,691 --> 00:24:46,724
{\an7}I said, "Hey, I’m in Charlotte.
708
00:24:46,724 --> 00:24:48,988
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"They’re accusing
my best friend for playing me,
709
00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:50,285
{\an7}"and it’s now or never.
710
00:24:50,285 --> 00:24:51,417
{\an7}What’s good with you?"
711
00:24:51,417 --> 00:24:54,559
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Wait,
so if that is your best friend,
712
00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:56,856
{\an7}now she knows...
\h\h\h\h- Uh-huh.
713
00:24:56,856 --> 00:24:57,988
{\an7}- That we think it’s her.
714
00:24:57,988 --> 00:25:00,219
{\an7}\h\h- Uh-huh.
- Very true.
715
00:25:00,219 --> 00:25:02,351
{\an7}- All right, well, this is--
\h\hyou know what? It’s fine.
716
00:25:02,351 --> 00:25:03,252
{\an7}It’s inevitable.
717
00:25:03,252 --> 00:25:04,054
{\an7}We’re showing our cards.
718
00:25:04,054 --> 00:25:05,691
{\an7}- We’re already here.
\h\h\h\h- We’re here.
719
00:25:05,691 --> 00:25:07,757
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I mean,
my mom did give me the address
720
00:25:07,757 --> 00:25:09,889
{\an7}for her when I--remember--
\h\h\h\h\h- Oh. Kia’s add--
721
00:25:09,889 --> 00:25:11,658
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Wait.
722
00:25:11,658 --> 00:25:13,384
{\an7}Gimme Kia’s address.
\h\h\h\h\hWhat is it?
723
00:25:13,384 --> 00:25:16,625
{\an7}- It is 1801--
\h\h\h- Uh-huh.
724
00:25:16,625 --> 00:25:18,351
{\an7}- [bleep] Avenue.
725
00:25:18,351 --> 00:25:19,021
{\an7}- Oh!
726
00:25:19,021 --> 00:25:20,889
{\an7}He wrote me just now.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- [gasps]
727
00:25:20,889 --> 00:25:21,955
{\an7}- Wait.
- Whoa.
728
00:25:21,955 --> 00:25:22,790
{\an7}It just said, "Okay.
729
00:25:22,790 --> 00:25:25,988
{\an7}"I know I don’t have a choice
\h\h\h\h\hsince you’re here.
730
00:25:25,988 --> 00:25:27,757
{\an7}I’ll meet you."
731
00:25:27,757 --> 00:25:29,483
{\an7}\h\h- Uh-huh.
- So hold on.
732
00:25:29,483 --> 00:25:34,021
{\an7}\h"You are making
the right choice.
733
00:25:34,021 --> 00:25:38,054
{\an7}When and where can we meet?"
734
00:25:38,054 --> 00:25:40,823
{\an7}Oh, wrote back! [gasps]
735
00:25:40,823 --> 00:25:42,054
{\an7}- What?
- What?
736
00:25:42,054 --> 00:25:43,054
{\an7}- Wait, [bleep] Avenue.
737
00:25:43,054 --> 00:25:46,856
{\an7}- 1801 [bleep] Avenue.
\h\h\h\hSound familiar?
738
00:25:46,856 --> 00:25:49,757
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\hThat’s the address--
- That’s your friend’s address?
739
00:25:49,757 --> 00:25:51,625
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- That’s Kia’s address.
740
00:25:51,625 --> 00:25:54,790
{\an7}- Just when I was ready to say
\h\h\h\h\h\hthat it wasn’t her.
741
00:25:54,790 --> 00:25:56,757
{\an7}[suspenseful music]
742
00:25:56,757 --> 00:25:57,691
{\an7}- I mean,
743
00:25:57,691 --> 00:25:59,922
{\an7}\h\h\h\hI don’t think
that’s a coincidence.
744
00:25:59,922 --> 00:26:01,021
{\an7}♪ ♪
745
00:26:01,021 --> 00:26:03,384
{\an7}- I’m just gonna assume
\h\h\h\h\hit’s a person
746
00:26:03,384 --> 00:26:05,483
{\an7}in the same apartment complex.
747
00:26:05,483 --> 00:26:07,384
{\an7}- "Okay. Cool.
748
00:26:07,384 --> 00:26:10,889
{\an7}"We will head there now.
749
00:26:10,889 --> 00:26:12,625
{\an7}See you soon."
750
00:26:12,625 --> 00:26:15,054
{\an7}- That’s crazy to think
\hthat your best friend
751
00:26:15,054 --> 00:26:18,526
{\an7}\h\h\h\hfrom childhood would be
catfishing you for eight years.
752
00:26:18,526 --> 00:26:23,691
{\an7}- Why don’t we just go and hear
\h\hit from the horse’s mouth?
753
00:26:23,691 --> 00:26:24,384
{\an7}All right.
754
00:26:24,384 --> 00:26:25,856
{\an7}- I’m as ready as I’ll ever be.
755
00:26:25,856 --> 00:26:27,691
{\an7}Let’s go.
756
00:26:27,691 --> 00:26:29,757
{\an7}- Okay.
757
00:26:29,757 --> 00:26:33,691
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- I’m gonna hope
that she gave the account
758
00:26:33,691 --> 00:26:35,483
{\an7}to a fine man--
759
00:26:35,483 --> 00:26:36,922
{\an7}- Who she lives with.
760
00:26:36,922 --> 00:26:38,417
{\an7}- I don’t know.
761
00:26:38,417 --> 00:26:39,526
{\an7}I don’t think it’s her.
762
00:26:39,526 --> 00:26:43,120
{\an7}\h\h- I hope there’s another
explanation for all of this.
763
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,417
{\an7}There has to be.
764
00:26:44,417 --> 00:26:45,922
{\an7}- There has to be.
765
00:26:45,922 --> 00:26:47,559
{\an7}- Is it this red one?
\h\h\h\h\h- I guess.
766
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,120
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- ’Cause it--yeah.
767
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:50,021
{\an7}All right.
768
00:26:50,021 --> 00:26:52,988
{\an7}Well, I guess this is it.
769
00:26:52,988 --> 00:26:55,351
{\an7}\h\h\h\hWhatever happens,
whoever opens that door,
770
00:26:55,351 --> 00:26:59,087
{\an7}\h\h\h\hlet’s just see what
whoever this is has to say
771
00:26:59,087 --> 00:27:01,351
{\an7}\h\hbefore we jump
to any conclusions.
772
00:27:01,351 --> 00:27:05,120
{\an7}- Okay. Let’s do this.
773
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,691
{\an7}♪ ♪
774
00:27:08,691 --> 00:27:09,823
{\an7}- All right, well.
775
00:27:09,823 --> 00:27:17,450
{\an7}♪ ♪
776
00:27:20,417 --> 00:27:22,120
{\an7}[gasps] He’s coming.
- Somebody’s coming.
777
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:23,823
{\an7}- Somebody is coming.
778
00:27:23,823 --> 00:27:26,054
{\an7}♪ ♪
779
00:27:28,942 --> 00:27:30,645
{\an7}[knock at door]
780
00:27:30,645 --> 00:27:31,305
{\an7}- Oh.
781
00:27:31,305 --> 00:27:34,404
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh.
[door clicks open]
782
00:27:34,404 --> 00:27:34,975
{\an7}- Hi.
783
00:27:34,975 --> 00:27:36,645
{\an7}- How you doing?
\h\h\h- I’m Nev.
784
00:27:36,645 --> 00:27:39,041
{\an7}- Ashanti.
- Ashanti.
785
00:27:39,041 --> 00:27:40,546
{\an7}Hi.
786
00:27:43,513 --> 00:27:45,437
{\an7}- So come on out.
787
00:27:45,437 --> 00:27:47,777
{\an7}[tense music]
788
00:27:47,777 --> 00:27:49,645
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- Hi.
- Do you know--
789
00:27:49,645 --> 00:27:50,942
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- Hey.
- This person?
790
00:27:50,942 --> 00:27:52,513
{\an7}- Yes.
- Okay.
791
00:27:52,513 --> 00:27:54,513
{\an7}- It’s Kia’s girlfriend.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yes.
792
00:27:54,513 --> 00:27:56,041
{\an7}- Oh. Oh, okay.
793
00:27:56,041 --> 00:27:56,876
{\an7}Is Kia here?
794
00:27:56,876 --> 00:27:58,371
{\an7}- She’s not here right now.
795
00:27:58,371 --> 00:28:00,404
{\an7}- Does--but Kia knows--
796
00:28:00,404 --> 00:28:02,843
{\an7}well, does Kia know we’re here?
797
00:28:02,843 --> 00:28:04,810
{\an7}♪ ♪
798
00:28:04,810 --> 00:28:08,645
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- No.
- Do you know why we’re here?
799
00:28:08,645 --> 00:28:10,404
{\an7}- I’m Anthony.
800
00:28:10,404 --> 00:28:11,843
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Wait, wait.
How’s that even possible?
801
00:28:11,843 --> 00:28:14,612
{\an7}\h’Cause she’s been talking
to Anthony for eight years.
802
00:28:14,612 --> 00:28:16,612
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- Yeah, um--
- It hasn’t been you
803
00:28:16,612 --> 00:28:17,777
{\an7}the whole time?
804
00:28:17,777 --> 00:28:19,513
{\an7}- It has been.
805
00:28:19,513 --> 00:28:21,437
{\an7}- How?
806
00:28:21,437 --> 00:28:24,942
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- I found your Snapchat
on one of my friend’s Snapchat.
807
00:28:24,942 --> 00:28:29,513
{\an7}\hHe tagged you in a post,
and I added you from there.
808
00:28:29,513 --> 00:28:31,645
{\an7}- Eight years ago?
809
00:28:31,645 --> 00:28:32,239
{\an7}- Yeah.
810
00:28:32,239 --> 00:28:34,041
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- So just
a total random coincidence.
811
00:28:34,041 --> 00:28:35,876
{\an7}A friend of yours posted
\h\h\habout her Snapchat,
812
00:28:35,876 --> 00:28:37,909
{\an7}and you saw it, and added her.
813
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:39,711
{\an7}\h\h\h- Yeah.
- As Anthony?
814
00:28:39,711 --> 00:28:40,810
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- How then is it possible
815
00:28:40,810 --> 00:28:46,579
{\an7}that six years later you would
meet her childhood best friend
816
00:28:46,579 --> 00:28:47,777
{\an7}and end up going out with her?
817
00:28:47,777 --> 00:28:49,810
{\an7}- She posted Kia
on her Snapchat,
818
00:28:49,810 --> 00:28:53,140
{\an7}and that’s...how I met Kia.
819
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:55,437
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Wow.
Okay, so you met Kia
820
00:28:55,437 --> 00:28:59,579
{\an7}\h\h\hbecause you had been
catfishing her as Anthony.
821
00:28:59,579 --> 00:29:00,404
{\an7}- Yeah.
822
00:29:00,404 --> 00:29:01,579
{\an7}- So Kia doesn’t know
823
00:29:01,579 --> 00:29:03,645
{\an7}that you’ve weirdly been
\h\h\h\hin a relationship
824
00:29:03,645 --> 00:29:06,140
{\an7}\hwith her best friend longer
than you’ve been dating her,
825
00:29:06,140 --> 00:29:08,843
{\an7}and that you’ve still been
\h\h\h\htalking to Victoria
826
00:29:08,843 --> 00:29:12,711
{\an7}\h\heven while you’ve been
in a relationship with Kia?
827
00:29:12,711 --> 00:29:15,041
{\an7}- No. She doesn’t know.
828
00:29:15,041 --> 00:29:17,843
{\an7}- [laughs] Oh, my God.
829
00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:19,437
{\an7}This is crazy.
830
00:29:19,437 --> 00:29:21,744
{\an7}- [laughing] I’m sorry.
831
00:29:21,744 --> 00:29:22,810
{\an7}I’m in shock.
832
00:29:22,810 --> 00:29:23,810
{\an7}- This is [bleep] ridiculous.
833
00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:27,942
{\an7}- Okay, so do you actively
have feelings for Victoria?
834
00:29:27,942 --> 00:29:29,480
{\an7}- In the beginning, yeah.
835
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,612
{\an7}But, you know, it never--
\h\hit never went there.
836
00:29:32,612 --> 00:29:34,140
{\an7}- But it did get sexual.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right.
837
00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:36,206
{\an7}- I mean, you did ask her
\h\h\h\h\hfor titty pics.
838
00:29:36,206 --> 00:29:37,777
{\an7}- I mean, yeah.
839
00:29:37,777 --> 00:29:41,041
{\an7}- While in a relationship
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Kia.
840
00:29:41,041 --> 00:29:42,513
{\an7}Her best friend.
841
00:29:42,513 --> 00:29:44,909
{\an7}♪ ♪
842
00:29:44,909 --> 00:29:47,041
{\an7}\h\hWhere’s Kia?
- Right. [laughs]
843
00:29:47,041 --> 00:29:48,579
{\an7}- ’Cause I wanna call her.
844
00:29:48,579 --> 00:29:50,909
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs]
I’m sorry. This is crazy.
845
00:29:50,909 --> 00:29:51,876
{\an7}- It’s not that I don’t care.
846
00:29:51,876 --> 00:29:55,074
{\an7}I mean, but it is happening
the way it’s happening, so.
847
00:29:55,074 --> 00:29:56,810
{\an7}- When you started dating Kia,
848
00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:59,876
{\an7}why didn’t you stop talking
\h\h\h\hto her as Anthony?
849
00:29:59,876 --> 00:30:03,645
{\an7}- But when I really started
\h\h\h\h\h\htalking to Kia,
850
00:30:03,645 --> 00:30:06,041
{\an7}me and Victoria,
we weren’t having
851
00:30:06,041 --> 00:30:07,645
{\an7}that many conversations,
\h\h\h\h\hso I was like,
852
00:30:07,645 --> 00:30:09,480
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
maybe it’ll just die down.
853
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,909
{\an7}- But it--
\h\h- But--
854
00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:11,975
{\an7}- It didn’t.
\h\h\h- Yeah.
855
00:30:11,975 --> 00:30:15,041
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- And what about when
you messaged the real Anthony
856
00:30:15,041 --> 00:30:15,843
{\an7}to scare him off?
857
00:30:15,843 --> 00:30:18,513
{\an7}What was that about?
\h\h\h\h\h- I just--
858
00:30:18,513 --> 00:30:19,612
{\an7}I don’t--I don’t know.
859
00:30:19,612 --> 00:30:21,777
{\an7}- Obviously you didn’t want us
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto be involved
860
00:30:21,777 --> 00:30:25,008
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbecause then
that would blow up the truth.
861
00:30:25,008 --> 00:30:26,173
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah,
I was hoping it--that--I--
862
00:30:26,173 --> 00:30:28,546
{\an7}\hI really didn’t want it
to go this way, you know?
863
00:30:28,546 --> 00:30:31,272
{\an7}- It’s giving you thought me
\h\h\h\hand Kia were stupid.
864
00:30:31,272 --> 00:30:34,843
{\an7}- Well, I mean, I didn’t
\hreally have to do much
865
00:30:34,843 --> 00:30:36,678
{\an7}for you to...
866
00:30:36,678 --> 00:30:38,074
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay.
- Not do more to meet me
867
00:30:38,074 --> 00:30:39,744
{\an7}all this time.
\h\h\h\h- Okay.
868
00:30:39,744 --> 00:30:42,140
{\an7}\h\h- So.
- Mm-kay.
869
00:30:42,140 --> 00:30:43,810
{\an7}- If you really wanna go there,
870
00:30:43,810 --> 00:30:47,074
{\an7}you kinda are a little--
a little--a little dumb.
871
00:30:47,074 --> 00:30:49,173
{\an7}\h\h- Come on now, like,
I’m thinking I’m talking
872
00:30:49,173 --> 00:30:50,579
{\an7}to a fine man.
873
00:30:50,579 --> 00:30:51,513
{\an7}Like, don’t do me.
874
00:30:51,513 --> 00:30:53,579
{\an7}\h\h\h- But instead
it was a fine stud.
875
00:30:53,579 --> 00:30:54,777
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI mean...
- Don’t do me. Don’t--
876
00:30:54,777 --> 00:30:56,107
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- All right,
but you know she’s not into--
877
00:30:56,107 --> 00:30:58,008
{\an7}- You’re dating my friend,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike--
878
00:30:58,008 --> 00:30:59,843
{\an7}- I’m sayin’--I’m just sayin’.
879
00:30:59,843 --> 00:31:02,645
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Well--
- At the end of the day--
880
00:31:02,645 --> 00:31:05,612
{\an7}- Right, so you are attracted
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto Victoria?
881
00:31:05,612 --> 00:31:07,206
{\an7}- Yeah.
\h- Oh.
882
00:31:07,206 --> 00:31:08,909
{\an7}- Oh.
- Oh.
883
00:31:08,909 --> 00:31:10,513
{\an7}- Is that Kia?
884
00:31:10,513 --> 00:31:12,041
{\an7}- Yeah. [laughs]
885
00:31:12,041 --> 00:31:13,107
{\an7}- Hey, bitch.
886
00:31:13,107 --> 00:31:15,711
{\an7}- Hey, girl.
\h\h\h- Hey.
887
00:31:15,711 --> 00:31:17,107
{\an7}- [indistinct]
\h- Oh, my God.
888
00:31:17,107 --> 00:31:19,876
{\an7}- It’s been that long.
\h- Oh, my God, right.
889
00:31:19,876 --> 00:31:20,975
{\an7}\h\h\h- Hey.
- What’s up?
890
00:31:20,975 --> 00:31:21,876
{\an7}- Hi.
- Hi.
891
00:31:21,876 --> 00:31:23,513
{\an7}\h\h\h- Sorry.
- This is Nev,
892
00:31:23,513 --> 00:31:24,272
{\an7}and this is Kamie.
893
00:31:24,272 --> 00:31:26,107
{\an7}- Um, do you have any idea
894
00:31:26,107 --> 00:31:27,107
{\an7}what is going on right now?
895
00:31:27,107 --> 00:31:28,909
{\an7}- No, it’s cold as [bleep].
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay.
896
00:31:28,909 --> 00:31:31,206
{\an7}Well, I wish we could just say
\h\h\h\h\hwe were here to visit
897
00:31:31,206 --> 00:31:33,272
{\an7}\h\h\h\hand say hello
’cause we’re in town,
898
00:31:33,272 --> 00:31:37,909
{\an7}but you know why we came
to North Carolina, right?
899
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:38,909
{\an7}\h\h’Cause...
- Yeah, yeah.
900
00:31:38,909 --> 00:31:41,338
{\an7}- Victoria’s trying to figure
out who this guy Anthony is.
901
00:31:41,338 --> 00:31:44,579
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hRight.
Weirdly, that investigation,
902
00:31:44,579 --> 00:31:46,173
{\an7}if you will, led us here.
903
00:31:46,173 --> 00:31:48,744
{\an7}♪ ♪
904
00:31:48,744 --> 00:31:49,843
{\an7}- Mm-hmm.
905
00:31:49,843 --> 00:31:51,777
{\an7}Take it away.
906
00:31:51,777 --> 00:31:53,678
{\an7}- What?
907
00:31:53,678 --> 00:31:55,272
{\an7}- I’m Anthony.
908
00:31:55,272 --> 00:31:57,579
{\an7}- How are you Anthony?
909
00:31:57,579 --> 00:31:59,107
{\an7}- Uh...
910
00:31:59,107 --> 00:32:00,107
{\an7}’cause I am.
911
00:32:00,107 --> 00:32:02,008
{\an7}I’m Anthony.
912
00:32:02,008 --> 00:32:04,041
{\an7}- For the last eight years?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm.
913
00:32:04,041 --> 00:32:05,744
{\an7}- How did you find Victoria?
914
00:32:05,744 --> 00:32:08,173
{\an7}How did you find me?
915
00:32:08,173 --> 00:32:09,909
{\an7}- Um...
916
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:11,239
{\an7}Victoria, somebody posted her.
917
00:32:11,239 --> 00:32:14,173
{\an7}Somebody on my Snapchat
\hposted her Snapchat.
918
00:32:14,173 --> 00:32:18,107
{\an7}Couple years down the line,
\h\h\h\h\h\hshe posted you.
919
00:32:18,107 --> 00:32:20,272
{\an7}I added you as myself.
920
00:32:20,272 --> 00:32:23,305
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- And you just been
not saying anything in my face,
921
00:32:23,305 --> 00:32:25,909
{\an7}still talking to Victoria,
\hand haven’t mentioned it?
922
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:28,239
{\an7}♪ ♪
923
00:32:28,239 --> 00:32:29,645
{\an7}- [grunts]
924
00:32:29,645 --> 00:32:32,140
{\an7}♪ ♪
925
00:32:32,140 --> 00:32:34,107
{\an7}\h\h- Well, bitch,
we know who it is.
926
00:32:34,107 --> 00:32:36,008
{\an7}- Mm-hmm.
927
00:32:36,008 --> 00:32:37,107
{\an7}♪ ♪
928
00:32:37,107 --> 00:32:38,975
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I’m, like,
at a loss for words right now.
929
00:32:38,975 --> 00:32:41,404
{\an7}\hI’m sorry.
- So are we.
930
00:32:42,744 --> 00:32:43,975
{\an7}\h\h\h\h- I don’t have
nothing to say either.
931
00:32:43,975 --> 00:32:47,239
{\an7}- You don’t at least, like,
\hwanna say sorry, like...
932
00:32:47,239 --> 00:32:50,041
{\an7}♪ ♪
933
00:32:50,041 --> 00:32:52,305
{\an7}\h\hI’m not forcing you.
You don’t have to, but--
934
00:32:52,305 --> 00:32:54,404
{\an7}- No, yes. I know that.
935
00:32:54,404 --> 00:32:56,338
{\an7}- Oh, okay.
936
00:32:56,338 --> 00:32:57,744
{\an7}- I’m sorry, though.
937
00:32:57,744 --> 00:32:59,107
{\an7}- Keep it.
938
00:32:59,107 --> 00:33:01,107
{\an7}♪ ♪
939
00:33:01,107 --> 00:33:02,041
{\an7}It’s always something.
940
00:33:02,041 --> 00:33:03,272
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh,
this isn’t the first time?
941
00:33:03,272 --> 00:33:04,305
{\an7}- Oh, this is the first time,
942
00:33:04,305 --> 00:33:05,338
{\an7}but we’ve had other problems,
943
00:33:05,338 --> 00:33:06,975
{\an7}so it’s not the first time
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat, like,
944
00:33:06,975 --> 00:33:08,206
{\an7}I’ve had "stupid"
\hon my forehead.
945
00:33:08,206 --> 00:33:11,744
{\an7}- It’s just ballsy. It’s crazy.
\h\h\h- And don’t seem to care.
946
00:33:11,744 --> 00:33:14,678
{\an7}- I don’t know--I don’t know
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhow you’re even
947
00:33:14,678 --> 00:33:16,371
{\an7}looking your girlfriend
\hin the eye right now
948
00:33:16,371 --> 00:33:19,008
{\an7}or her best friend,
but you don’t seem
949
00:33:19,008 --> 00:33:19,876
{\an7}to be that worried.
950
00:33:19,876 --> 00:33:21,876
{\an7}- Uh, I didn’t mean for it
\h\h\h\hto happen this way.
951
00:33:21,876 --> 00:33:24,371
{\an7}But it’s happening this way,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hso I’m--
952
00:33:24,371 --> 00:33:27,173
{\an7}I’m kinda soaking it in like
\h\heverybody else, you know?
953
00:33:27,173 --> 00:33:28,942
{\an7}- But you’ve known the truth
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe whole time,
954
00:33:28,942 --> 00:33:31,272
{\an7}\h\h\hso, like, I think
what’s surprising to us
955
00:33:31,272 --> 00:33:33,942
{\an7}is that you’re not making
any effort to say, like,
956
00:33:33,942 --> 00:33:36,437
{\an7}"I’m really sorry" and, like,
"This was super [bleep] up,"
957
00:33:36,437 --> 00:33:40,008
{\an7}\h\h\hand, like, try to salvage
either of these relationships.
958
00:33:40,008 --> 00:33:43,711
{\an7}Like, I don’t get the sense
\h\h\hthat you’re trying to
959
00:33:43,711 --> 00:33:45,008
{\an7}or that you care to.
960
00:33:45,008 --> 00:33:48,041
{\an7}[tense music]
961
00:33:48,041 --> 00:33:52,107
{\an7}♪ ♪
962
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:56,459
- I think
we should all go inside
963
00:33:56,526 --> 00:33:57,527
and try to have a conversation
964
00:33:57,594 --> 00:33:59,296
to resolve this somehow.
965
00:33:59,362 --> 00:34:00,831
All right.
966
00:34:00,897 --> 00:34:04,234
I think we all have a lot
of thoughts and questions,
967
00:34:04,301 --> 00:34:06,536
and I just wanna make sure
that all of you say
968
00:34:06,603 --> 00:34:08,872
whatever it is
you feel you should say.
969
00:34:08,939 --> 00:34:10,640
- I feel like this isn't even,
like, about me
970
00:34:10,707 --> 00:34:12,375
getting catfished anymore,
like.
971
00:34:12,442 --> 00:34:13,743
I feel like how do you feel?
972
00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:15,278
Like, this is crazy.
973
00:34:15,345 --> 00:34:16,379
- It is [bleep] crazy.
974
00:34:16,446 --> 00:34:18,715
- Exactly.
975
00:34:18,782 --> 00:34:19,883
- I don't really have much
976
00:34:19,950 --> 00:34:22,385
that I really wanna say
right now.
977
00:34:22,452 --> 00:34:25,589
I feel like I said
what was necessary to say.
978
00:34:25,655 --> 00:34:26,857
I got my reaction.
979
00:34:26,923 --> 00:34:30,427
I'm not gonna sit here
and be all like...
980
00:34:30,494 --> 00:34:31,561
super apologetic.
981
00:34:31,628 --> 00:34:35,232
I get it.
Spotlight's on me, but...
982
00:34:35,298 --> 00:34:38,902
I wish it didn't have to happen
this way.
983
00:34:38,969 --> 00:34:40,303
[laughs] Like--
- It didn't.
984
00:34:40,370 --> 00:34:42,072
- Everything is weird.
- It didn't have to happen
985
00:34:42,138 --> 00:34:43,273
this way.
986
00:34:43,340 --> 00:34:44,674
There were plenty
of good opportunities
987
00:34:44,741 --> 00:34:47,477
for you
to make better decisions.
988
00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:49,112
- Yeah.
989
00:34:49,179 --> 00:34:50,313
- I'm sorry, I just don't--
I don't have no words
990
00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:52,482
right now.
991
00:34:52,549 --> 00:34:54,384
- Like, are you scared
of losing my friend?
992
00:34:54,451 --> 00:34:56,820
- 'Cause you don't act like it.
At all.
993
00:34:56,887 --> 00:34:59,189
- It's an intense moment
right now.
994
00:34:59,256 --> 00:35:02,392
It seems like I'm treating it
like it's miniscule,
995
00:35:02,425 --> 00:35:04,895
but I do care.
996
00:35:04,961 --> 00:35:07,197
I don't wanna lose you.
997
00:35:07,264 --> 00:35:09,733
- You have a really [bleep]
weird way of showing it.
998
00:35:09,799 --> 00:35:13,503
- And then it took you mad long
to be like, "I care about you."
999
00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:16,706
- It's not like I'm sitting
here not expressing my feelings
1000
00:35:16,773 --> 00:35:19,409
and like you said,
this is not about you.
1001
00:35:19,409 --> 00:35:22,479
- I mean, you catfished me,
so that's why we're here.
1002
00:35:22,546 --> 00:35:24,181
- Like you said, you feel like
this is not about that
1003
00:35:24,247 --> 00:35:26,850
no more, right?
- I--but I wasn't saying that.
1004
00:35:26,917 --> 00:35:29,119
- So relax.
- Okay.
1005
00:35:29,186 --> 00:35:31,788
- I'm so over it,
like I'm just so fed up.
1006
00:35:31,855 --> 00:35:33,690
Like it's always something.
1007
00:35:33,757 --> 00:35:35,826
- Kia, what do you want?
1008
00:35:35,892 --> 00:35:37,994
Not just from Ashanti.
1009
00:35:38,061 --> 00:35:41,431
What do you want out of love
in your life?
1010
00:35:41,498 --> 00:35:42,666
- Somebody that respects me.
1011
00:35:42,732 --> 00:35:44,668
[soft music]
1012
00:35:44,734 --> 00:35:46,303
And doesn't lie.
1013
00:35:46,436 --> 00:35:50,173
Someone that's gonna
reciprocate what I give them.
1014
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:53,143
- Do you feel like
you could do that?
1015
00:35:53,210 --> 00:35:55,278
- I do.
1016
00:35:55,378 --> 00:35:57,480
- I don't think so.
1017
00:35:57,547 --> 00:35:58,849
- But are you saying
1018
00:35:58,915 --> 00:36:00,083
that you don't wanna continue
a relationship?
1019
00:36:00,150 --> 00:36:01,251
- Yeah, she doesn't have
to worry about it.
1020
00:36:01,384 --> 00:36:02,819
I'll find it elsewhere.
It's fine.
1021
00:36:02,886 --> 00:36:09,059
♪ ♪
1022
00:36:11,061 --> 00:36:12,295
- No words?
- Next.
1023
00:36:12,395 --> 00:36:14,898
No, it's fine.
1024
00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:16,266
- And you just willing
to accept that?
1025
00:36:16,399 --> 00:36:18,034
- Yeah,
what am I supposed to say?
1026
00:36:18,101 --> 00:36:20,804
I mean, like,
there's nothing else.
1027
00:36:20,871 --> 00:36:23,773
I'm not about to get down
on my knees, I mean.
1028
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,408
- Ashanti,
I don't know what to tell you.
1029
00:36:25,442 --> 00:36:28,645
A good woman does not come
around every single day.
1030
00:36:28,712 --> 00:36:30,413
And so when you do find
somebody
1031
00:36:30,447 --> 00:36:33,183
that is worth getting
on your knees and begging for,
1032
00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:35,452
I'm not saying you have
to physically do it,
1033
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:37,454
but it is good to hear.
1034
00:36:37,521 --> 00:36:40,490
- I said what I had to say,
and I don't know
1035
00:36:40,557 --> 00:36:43,493
if you guys need me to, like,
change my tone.
1036
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,462
- You say exactly what
you wanna say.
1037
00:36:45,529 --> 00:36:48,632
For you, Kia,
whatever you have to say,
1038
00:36:48,698 --> 00:36:51,101
be intentional about what it is
that you're saying
1039
00:36:51,168 --> 00:36:52,702
and stand behind the words
that you're saying.
1040
00:36:52,769 --> 00:36:54,204
So if you're saying
1041
00:36:54,271 --> 00:36:55,772
"I don't wanna work things out
with you.
1042
00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:58,508
This is done,"
mean that [bleep].
1043
00:36:58,575 --> 00:36:59,743
But if you're saying,
1044
00:36:59,809 --> 00:37:01,711
"I need for you
to tell me something
1045
00:37:01,778 --> 00:37:03,680
to make me stay,"
1046
00:37:03,747 --> 00:37:05,982
then actually say that.
1047
00:37:06,049 --> 00:37:09,052
♪ ♪
1048
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:10,487
- I'm not gonna keep going
back and forth with her
1049
00:37:10,554 --> 00:37:13,390
about little [bleep] here
and there, so this is done.
1050
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:17,994
- But you mean that?
1051
00:37:19,930 --> 00:37:22,098
- Yes.
1052
00:37:25,402 --> 00:37:27,838
- And presumably, Victoria,
you're not looking
1053
00:37:27,904 --> 00:37:29,005
to have any continued...
1054
00:37:29,072 --> 00:37:30,307
- Absolutely not.
- [laughs]
1055
00:37:30,407 --> 00:37:31,775
You don't want her?
- Mm-mm.
1056
00:37:31,842 --> 00:37:32,843
- She's on the market now.
1057
00:37:32,909 --> 00:37:34,678
- No.
- Don't play.
1058
00:37:34,744 --> 00:37:36,513
Somebody gonna grab it up.
1059
00:37:36,580 --> 00:37:38,281
There's no need for y'all
to be funny.
1060
00:37:38,415 --> 00:37:39,950
This--it already is what it is.
1061
00:37:40,016 --> 00:37:41,418
I understand y'all mad, but--
1062
00:37:41,451 --> 00:37:43,720
- You was being funny
for eight years.
1063
00:37:43,787 --> 00:37:46,122
- Yep.
- Mm-hmm.
1064
00:37:46,189 --> 00:37:49,626
So I can be funny now.
1065
00:37:49,693 --> 00:37:50,827
Ha-ha.
1066
00:37:50,894 --> 00:37:52,562
- Well,
I hope you're enjoying it.
1067
00:37:52,629 --> 00:37:55,065
- I am. Thank you.
1068
00:37:55,131 --> 00:37:57,601
- Ashanti, like,
of all the people in the room
1069
00:37:57,667 --> 00:38:00,136
who should be willing to take
a little bit of [bleep]
1070
00:38:00,203 --> 00:38:01,371
right now--
- And I am.
1071
00:38:01,404 --> 00:38:02,706
I--I am, though.
- Yeah, well, yeah,
1072
00:38:02,772 --> 00:38:04,875
but even when someone tried
to give you, like,
1073
00:38:04,941 --> 00:38:08,011
a little attitude,
you, like, gave it back.
1074
00:38:08,078 --> 00:38:09,379
- Yeah, it's coming back.
- And, like,
1075
00:38:09,379 --> 00:38:12,115
when you [bleep] up,
you have to be willing
1076
00:38:12,182 --> 00:38:16,419
to sit and eat some [bleep]
and not go tit for tat.
1077
00:38:16,486 --> 00:38:20,991
Like you have to just sit there
and say, "You're right.
1078
00:38:21,057 --> 00:38:22,492
I'm sorry. You're right."
1079
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:23,960
And it sucks,
and it doesn't feel good--
1080
00:38:24,027 --> 00:38:25,695
it shouldn't feel good.
1081
00:38:25,762 --> 00:38:28,431
But learning how to be humble
and have some humility
1082
00:38:28,498 --> 00:38:33,403
in those moments will go
a long way in getting forgiven.
1083
00:38:33,403 --> 00:38:35,038
- I hear everything
that you guys are saying,
1084
00:38:35,105 --> 00:38:36,940
and I'm taking it into account.
1085
00:38:37,007 --> 00:38:38,975
Um...
1086
00:38:39,042 --> 00:38:41,845
♪ ♪
1087
00:38:41,912 --> 00:38:43,980
Yeah.
- So okay.
1088
00:38:44,047 --> 00:38:45,115
I know you guys live together,
1089
00:38:45,182 --> 00:38:46,983
and things are awkward
right now.
1090
00:38:47,050 --> 00:38:49,619
Why don't we take Kia
and Victoria
1091
00:38:49,686 --> 00:38:52,589
so you can kinda keep
catching up and chatting,
1092
00:38:52,656 --> 00:38:55,959
and we'll just say our goodbyes
to Ashanti for the moment
1093
00:38:56,026 --> 00:38:57,460
if that's cool.
1094
00:38:57,527 --> 00:38:58,995
- That's fine.
1095
00:38:59,062 --> 00:39:01,698
Thank you.
1096
00:39:01,765 --> 00:39:03,767
- All right.
1097
00:39:03,834 --> 00:39:05,502
[indistinct]
- All right.
1098
00:39:05,569 --> 00:39:07,771
- [bleep], here we are
in the [bleep] cold again.
1099
00:39:07,838 --> 00:39:09,439
- Good to meet you.
Good luck with everything.
1100
00:39:09,506 --> 00:39:10,841
- Likewise.
1101
00:39:10,907 --> 00:39:13,643
- Good to meet you. Good luck.
1102
00:39:13,710 --> 00:39:15,378
- Bye, Ashanti.
1103
00:39:15,412 --> 00:39:20,250
- ♪ I've had enough
of playing victim ♪
1104
00:39:20,383 --> 00:39:22,185
♪ It's kinda tough ♪
1105
00:39:22,252 --> 00:39:24,888
♪ But I'm ready
for big changes ♪
1106
00:39:24,955 --> 00:39:27,023
- Man,
did I not see that coming.
1107
00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:28,391
- And her reaction, I just--
1108
00:39:28,425 --> 00:39:30,560
- Kia, are you--
you really feel like that's it?
1109
00:39:30,627 --> 00:39:31,761
You think you're done?
1110
00:39:31,828 --> 00:39:32,696
- I feel like we've gone
through so much
1111
00:39:32,762 --> 00:39:33,930
that, like, at some point,
1112
00:39:33,997 --> 00:39:35,165
I have to put my foot down.
- Right.
1113
00:39:35,232 --> 00:39:37,067
Well, I'm just happy
you guys are cool.
1114
00:39:37,133 --> 00:39:38,802
- Of course.
- My biggest worry was that--
1115
00:39:38,869 --> 00:39:40,070
- It was gonna be me.
- Yes.
1116
00:39:40,136 --> 00:39:41,404
- That is fricking beyond me.
- [laughs]
1117
00:39:41,404 --> 00:39:43,073
- Well,
we weren't that far off.
1118
00:39:43,139 --> 00:39:44,307
I mean--
- [laughs]
1119
00:39:44,407 --> 00:39:46,076
- Anyway,
I'm glad we figured this out
1120
00:39:46,142 --> 00:39:47,711
and everyone can move on
with their lives.
1121
00:39:47,777 --> 00:39:48,712
- ♪ Of playing victim ♪
1122
00:39:48,778 --> 00:39:49,779
- Period.
1123
00:39:49,846 --> 00:39:50,881
- Who wants to get a milkshake?
1124
00:39:50,947 --> 00:39:52,582
[laughter]
1125
00:39:52,649 --> 00:39:58,088
- ♪ But I'm ready
for big changes ♪
1126
00:39:58,154 --> 00:39:59,556
- Hey!
1127
00:39:59,623 --> 00:40:02,359
- Hey! You're sideways.
- You're sideways.
1128
00:40:02,359 --> 00:40:04,060
- There she is.
- Hey, Queen.
1129
00:40:04,127 --> 00:40:06,563
- What's up?
- Chilling, working.
1130
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:07,931
I just moved.
1131
00:40:07,998 --> 00:40:09,466
- Wait, you just got
a new apartment?
1132
00:40:09,533 --> 00:40:12,369
- Yeah, I, uh, actually moved
in with my, uh, boyfriend.
1133
00:40:12,435 --> 00:40:14,504
- What?
- Boyfriend!
1134
00:40:14,571 --> 00:40:16,206
When did you meet this man?
- Yeah. What?
1135
00:40:16,273 --> 00:40:18,408
- I've known him for, like,
two years,
1136
00:40:18,475 --> 00:40:20,677
and we've just kinda been
on and off.
1137
00:40:20,744 --> 00:40:22,445
- Mm-hmm.
1138
00:40:22,512 --> 00:40:24,648
- Yeah,
we've just been pretty happy.
1139
00:40:24,714 --> 00:40:26,049
- That's so great.
1140
00:40:26,116 --> 00:40:27,517
- So it's safe to say
that you and Ashanti
1141
00:40:27,584 --> 00:40:29,052
are not a thing?
- Absolutely not.
1142
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:31,188
- [laughs]
- Her and Kia are, but--
1143
00:40:31,254 --> 00:40:32,556
- Oh.
- Oh, they're still together?
1144
00:40:32,622 --> 00:40:34,257
- Mm-hmm.
- After all that [bleep]?
1145
00:40:34,391 --> 00:40:36,293
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
1146
00:40:36,393 --> 00:40:38,595
Does that not make things
awkward for you guys
1147
00:40:38,662 --> 00:40:40,397
and your friendship?
- Not really.
1148
00:40:40,463 --> 00:40:42,699
I just carry on like
as if she's not there.
1149
00:40:42,766 --> 00:40:44,534
- But at least you're so happy,
I hope.
1150
00:40:44,601 --> 00:40:46,303
- Yeah, this is probably,
like, the happiest I've been
1151
00:40:46,403 --> 00:40:47,971
in a really long time.
1152
00:40:48,038 --> 00:40:49,606
- Well, it's all thanks to us.
1153
00:40:49,673 --> 00:40:50,674
- Right. Agreed.
1154
00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:51,875
- [laughs]
1155
00:40:51,942 --> 00:40:53,710
- And, uh, best of luck
with everything.
1156
00:40:53,777 --> 00:40:54,945
Stay safe, stay healthy,
1157
00:40:55,011 --> 00:40:56,346
and, uh, hopefully
we'll see you soon.
1158
00:40:56,379 --> 00:40:57,347
- [laughs]
- Bye, Victoria.
1159
00:40:57,347 --> 00:40:58,481
- Bye.
- Bye.
1160
00:41:00,296 --> 00:41:03,362
{\an7}[upbeat music]
1161
00:41:03,362 --> 00:41:10,999
{\an7}♪ ♪
1162
00:41:30,623 --> 00:41:32,359
{\an7}- He’s just different than
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hother guys.
1163
00:41:32,359 --> 00:41:33,887
{\an7}\hHe actually cares
and listens to me.
1164
00:41:33,887 --> 00:41:37,392
{\an7}\h- All these catfish always
be using fake phone numbers.
1165
00:41:37,392 --> 00:41:39,128
{\an7}I think it’s time for us
\h\h\h\hto make our own.
1166
00:41:39,128 --> 00:41:39,821
{\an7}Text that number.
1167
00:41:39,821 --> 00:41:41,920
{\an7}- You’re catfishing
\h\h\hthe catfish.
1168
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,623
{\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- Nev and Kamie
are on the phone with me.
1169
00:41:43,623 --> 00:41:46,161
{\an7}Do you want to meet up?