1 00:00:00,901 --> 00:00:02,736 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:02,803 --> 00:00:04,938 - Victoria first started talking with Anthony 3 00:00:05,005 --> 00:00:06,607 when she was 16. 4 00:00:06,673 --> 00:00:09,176 - I trust him with my feelings. - Why do you trust him? 5 00:00:09,243 --> 00:00:10,744 - What could he possibly be lying about? 6 00:00:10,811 --> 00:00:12,279 - Is he in a relationship? 7 00:00:14,915 --> 00:00:15,983 - Oh, Anthony. Go back. 8 00:00:16,049 --> 00:00:17,784 He said, "I don't trust Victoria." 9 00:00:17,851 --> 00:00:19,553 - What? 10 00:00:19,620 --> 00:00:21,622 He is coming. 11 00:00:21,688 --> 00:00:22,990 Oh! 12 00:00:23,056 --> 00:00:24,992 [dramatic music] 13 00:00:25,058 --> 00:00:27,961 [upbeat music] 14 00:00:28,028 --> 00:00:29,496 ♪ ♪ 15 00:00:29,563 --> 00:00:30,764 - Max is 40. 16 00:00:30,831 --> 00:00:32,432 - Mm-hmm. - He's thriving. 17 00:00:32,499 --> 00:00:35,035 And you missed a great party. - I know. 18 00:00:35,102 --> 00:00:36,136 I'm really sad I missed the birthday. 19 00:00:36,203 --> 00:00:37,638 I am. I'm sad I missed it. 20 00:00:37,704 --> 00:00:39,439 - You sent him a nice message, though? 21 00:00:39,506 --> 00:00:41,842 Or was there a birthday post? 22 00:00:41,909 --> 00:00:43,877 - I'm starting to feel faint. 23 00:00:43,944 --> 00:00:45,312 [laughter] 24 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:46,880 Back to work. Max would want us 25 00:00:46,947 --> 00:00:49,016 to get back to work. - Mm, he definitely would. 26 00:00:49,082 --> 00:00:50,083 All right, we got an email here 27 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:52,286 from Victoria G. 28 00:00:52,352 --> 00:00:54,755 "Hey, Nev and Kamie, I'm Victoria." 29 00:00:54,821 --> 00:00:56,924 - She actually said "Kamie and Nev," but... 30 00:00:56,990 --> 00:00:59,426 - You know what? You're right. I somehow saw that-- 31 00:00:59,493 --> 00:01:00,661 - Yep, it's fine. - I read that wrong. 32 00:01:00,727 --> 00:01:01,728 - ♪ You wanna ♪ 33 00:01:01,795 --> 00:01:03,297 - "Hey, Kamie and Nev, 34 00:01:03,363 --> 00:01:04,665 "I'm Victoria. 35 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:08,268 "I'm 24 years old and from Austin, Texas. 36 00:01:08,335 --> 00:01:11,138 "I've been in a relationship with a guy named Anthony 37 00:01:11,205 --> 00:01:14,274 "since I was 16. 38 00:01:14,341 --> 00:01:17,444 "I know what you're thinking, but he's really great. 39 00:01:17,511 --> 00:01:21,515 "He's 29, a model, and lives in Los Angeles. 40 00:01:21,582 --> 00:01:25,452 "He was my first online friend and boyfriend. 41 00:01:25,519 --> 00:01:27,187 "He's seen me grow up 42 00:01:27,254 --> 00:01:29,690 and has helped me through all my firsts." 43 00:01:29,756 --> 00:01:33,193 - ♪ You wanna feel it like you felt it on the first try ♪ 44 00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:36,630 - "He's been there for me all these years. 45 00:01:36,697 --> 00:01:38,298 We talk a lot." 46 00:01:38,365 --> 00:01:41,602 - ♪ I wanna feel it like I felt it on the first try ♪ 47 00:01:41,668 --> 00:01:43,804 - "He's everything I want in a guy. 48 00:01:43,871 --> 00:01:45,772 "He's funny, he has his stuff together, 49 00:01:45,839 --> 00:01:48,675 and he's fine as hell." 50 00:01:48,742 --> 00:01:50,978 - Purr. - "But in the eight years 51 00:01:51,111 --> 00:01:54,248 "I've known him, we have never had a FaceTime 52 00:01:54,314 --> 00:01:57,284 "or even a phone conversation. 53 00:01:57,351 --> 00:01:59,553 "And recently when I pressed him on it, 54 00:01:59,620 --> 00:02:03,724 "we got into a fight and he blocked me. 55 00:02:03,790 --> 00:02:06,627 "I'm fed up, but I still care about him. 56 00:02:06,693 --> 00:02:10,163 "I hold every guy to the Anthony-standard, 57 00:02:10,230 --> 00:02:14,101 "and I can't move on until I get some answers. 58 00:02:14,168 --> 00:02:17,070 "Please help. 59 00:02:17,104 --> 00:02:19,540 Victoria." 60 00:02:20,707 --> 00:02:22,276 - [clears throat] 61 00:02:22,342 --> 00:02:23,277 - You know, obviously, on one hand, 62 00:02:23,343 --> 00:02:24,645 this guy sounds great. 63 00:02:24,711 --> 00:02:26,547 He's been this guidepost for her 64 00:02:26,613 --> 00:02:28,482 along the eight years of her life 65 00:02:28,549 --> 00:02:30,851 where she's grown and matured, and he's been there for her. 66 00:02:30,918 --> 00:02:33,554 - And they have this weird "relationship." 67 00:02:33,620 --> 00:02:35,889 - They've never talked on the phone. 68 00:02:35,956 --> 00:02:38,091 So what kind of relationship are you really having? 69 00:02:38,091 --> 00:02:39,359 - Should we call her? - Yes. 70 00:02:39,426 --> 00:02:41,828 She needs our help. 71 00:02:41,895 --> 00:02:44,198 [line trilling] 72 00:02:45,399 --> 00:02:48,268 - Hello, hello. It's Nev and Kamie. 73 00:02:48,335 --> 00:02:49,203 - Victoria. - Oh, excuse me. 74 00:02:49,269 --> 00:02:50,470 It's Kamie and Nev. 75 00:02:50,537 --> 00:02:52,406 - Yeah, Kamie first. It's Kamie first. 76 00:02:52,472 --> 00:02:54,374 - We just read your email and Kamie pointed out 77 00:02:54,441 --> 00:02:56,543 that you wrote "Dear Kamie and Nev." 78 00:02:56,610 --> 00:02:57,744 - Mm-hmm. - And I was curious 79 00:02:57,811 --> 00:02:58,745 why you did that. 80 00:02:58,812 --> 00:03:00,514 [laughter] 81 00:03:03,050 --> 00:03:04,484 - Okay. - Yes, exactly. 82 00:03:04,551 --> 00:03:06,253 See? You know the vibes. 83 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,654 - Anyway, Victoria, 84 00:03:07,721 --> 00:03:09,456 we just obviously read your email. 85 00:03:09,523 --> 00:03:11,358 Whoo, we got some questions. - Mm-hmm. 86 00:03:11,425 --> 00:03:12,693 - You want answers. So do we. 87 00:03:14,261 --> 00:03:15,395 - You live in Texas, 88 00:03:15,462 --> 00:03:17,965 but "Anthony" lives in Los Angeles. 89 00:03:18,065 --> 00:03:19,166 - Allegedly. 90 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:21,502 - So could you come just meet us here? 91 00:03:21,568 --> 00:03:23,070 And if it turns out that he's here, 92 00:03:23,070 --> 00:03:24,738 that'll save us both a flight. 93 00:03:27,074 --> 00:03:28,876 - All right. Well, great. So we'll fly you out here 94 00:03:28,942 --> 00:03:31,445 and figure this Anthony mystery out. 95 00:03:33,647 --> 00:03:35,082 - See you soon. - See you soon. 96 00:03:35,649 --> 00:03:38,886 - Bye. - She sounds with it. 97 00:03:38,952 --> 00:03:40,220 - She sounds very mature. - She sounds great. 98 00:03:40,287 --> 00:03:43,123 She sounds mature, so what is she doing 99 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:44,825 talking to Anthony for eight years? 100 00:03:44,892 --> 00:03:47,127 - All right. Well, I guess we'll find out. 101 00:03:47,194 --> 00:03:49,730 [upbeat music] 102 00:03:49,796 --> 00:03:52,299 All right. 103 00:03:52,366 --> 00:03:55,102 Victoria Beckoned. 104 00:03:55,169 --> 00:03:57,104 - That's clever. 105 00:03:57,137 --> 00:03:59,106 - Here we are. [both laugh] 106 00:03:59,139 --> 00:04:01,041 - I'm excited to meet her. 107 00:04:01,074 --> 00:04:03,076 Victoria? 108 00:04:03,143 --> 00:04:04,311 - What's up? - Hi. 109 00:04:04,378 --> 00:04:06,180 Good to meet you. - Nice meeting you. 110 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:07,447 Oh, my gosh, you're so beautiful. 111 00:04:07,514 --> 00:04:09,316 - Oh, thank you so much. I love your lashes. 112 00:04:09,383 --> 00:04:10,617 - Thank you. - Thank you. 113 00:04:10,684 --> 00:04:12,386 - Nice to meet you. - It is nice to meet you. 114 00:04:12,452 --> 00:04:13,921 - Have you been to LA before? - No. 115 00:04:14,054 --> 00:04:16,290 - You look so pretty. - Thank you. 116 00:04:16,356 --> 00:04:19,593 - Welcome-- - Howdy, howdy. 117 00:04:19,660 --> 00:04:21,361 - I got a lot of questions. - I bet. 118 00:04:21,428 --> 00:04:22,663 - I mean... - Mm-hmm. 119 00:04:22,729 --> 00:04:24,498 - Well, my main question is you've been talking 120 00:04:24,565 --> 00:04:25,666 to this guy for so long. 121 00:04:25,732 --> 00:04:27,501 You live not that far away. 122 00:04:27,568 --> 00:04:29,369 How have you not tried to come here and meet him? 123 00:04:29,436 --> 00:04:30,370 - It's definitely come up, 124 00:04:30,437 --> 00:04:32,072 and then it would always be like, 125 00:04:32,072 --> 00:04:33,207 "I'm busy." 126 00:04:33,273 --> 00:04:34,274 - They're always busy, aren't they? 127 00:04:34,341 --> 00:04:35,309 - Always. 128 00:04:35,375 --> 00:04:37,344 - Your suite, madame. 129 00:04:37,411 --> 00:04:39,313 - This is definitely nice. 130 00:04:39,379 --> 00:04:41,315 - Whoo! - [sighs] 131 00:04:41,381 --> 00:04:42,649 - We're glad you're here. 132 00:04:42,716 --> 00:04:44,651 - Me too. Thank you for helping me. 133 00:04:44,718 --> 00:04:46,553 - Okay, so take us back. - Yeah. 134 00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:47,721 - Tell us the whole-- - From the jump. 135 00:04:47,788 --> 00:04:49,523 - So taking it all the way back, 136 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:51,859 I was 16. I was still in high school. 137 00:04:51,925 --> 00:04:53,760 He randomly added me on Snapchat. 138 00:04:53,827 --> 00:04:56,697 From there we just started talking. 139 00:04:56,763 --> 00:04:59,099 - And are you sending photos to each other? 140 00:04:59,166 --> 00:05:01,134 - He sent me one picture. 141 00:05:01,201 --> 00:05:02,336 Um-- - On Snapchat? 142 00:05:02,402 --> 00:05:03,937 - On Snapchat. And then he was like, 143 00:05:04,037 --> 00:05:06,106 "Send me pics back," like, so it just kind of turned 144 00:05:06,173 --> 00:05:09,042 into me sending pictures back and then him talking to me 145 00:05:09,109 --> 00:05:10,377 in a romantic way. 146 00:05:10,444 --> 00:05:12,446 Never messaged him on Instagram. 147 00:05:12,513 --> 00:05:14,047 - Does he have an Instagram or... 148 00:05:14,114 --> 00:05:15,782 - Yeah, I found it by myself. 149 00:05:15,849 --> 00:05:17,718 - When you first were talking? - Mm-hmm. 150 00:05:17,784 --> 00:05:20,354 - And how do you know it was his Instagram? 151 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:21,688 - Well, it was his first and last name. 152 00:05:21,755 --> 00:05:23,557 - And did you follow his Instagram? 153 00:05:23,624 --> 00:05:25,292 - Mm-mm, I was like, if you're not following me, 154 00:05:25,359 --> 00:05:26,660 I'm not gonna follow you. 155 00:05:26,727 --> 00:05:29,296 So still talking to him when I'm 16, 17, 156 00:05:29,363 --> 00:05:31,365 but when I was 18, 157 00:05:31,431 --> 00:05:33,333 I got my first real-life boyfriend. 158 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,069 - Mm. - That was a problem. 159 00:05:36,103 --> 00:05:38,906 Cussed me out, so I just blocked him. 160 00:05:38,972 --> 00:05:40,574 - Blocked his number? 161 00:05:40,641 --> 00:05:41,875 - Well, on the Snapchat. 162 00:05:41,942 --> 00:05:43,810 - Oh, still only on Snapchat? - Mm-hmm. 163 00:05:43,877 --> 00:05:44,945 - So you never had his phone number? 164 00:05:45,078 --> 00:05:47,080 - Not until I turned 21. - The Snapchat-- 165 00:05:47,147 --> 00:05:48,749 was his Snapchat his full name? 166 00:05:48,815 --> 00:05:50,150 - No, it was [bleep]master. 167 00:05:50,217 --> 00:05:53,420 [dramatic music] 168 00:05:53,487 --> 00:05:55,088 - And his Instagram was [bleep]master too? 169 00:05:55,088 --> 00:05:57,491 - No, so I knew his first and last name. 170 00:05:57,558 --> 00:05:58,458 - [laughing] - 'Cause he gave it to me. 171 00:05:58,525 --> 00:05:59,693 Anthony Foust. 172 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,094 So I got my boyfriend, 18, 173 00:06:01,161 --> 00:06:04,831 and then my relationship lasted until I was 21. 174 00:06:04,898 --> 00:06:06,366 And that's when he came back. 175 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:07,668 - So you guys start talking? 176 00:06:07,734 --> 00:06:09,736 - Mm-hmm. - You get his number? 177 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:12,873 - Yeah, and then his number since then has changed 178 00:06:12,940 --> 00:06:14,041 every year. 179 00:06:14,074 --> 00:06:15,876 - His number has changed every year? 180 00:06:15,943 --> 00:06:16,743 - Yes. 181 00:06:16,810 --> 00:06:18,111 - Does he ever say why? 182 00:06:18,178 --> 00:06:19,613 - Mm-mm. - And-- 183 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,547 - [laughs] - Well, do you text him 184 00:06:20,614 --> 00:06:21,648 on these numbers? 185 00:06:21,715 --> 00:06:23,217 - Yeah. - But you never talk? 186 00:06:23,283 --> 00:06:25,185 - Mm-mm. - So what's happened 187 00:06:25,252 --> 00:06:26,386 in the last few years then? 188 00:06:26,453 --> 00:06:29,323 - It's progressed into us kind of, like, 189 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:32,426 risqué talking and risqué photos. 190 00:06:32,492 --> 00:06:34,261 But also he's there for me when I need him. 191 00:06:34,328 --> 00:06:37,464 Like, he was there when I got my first apartment. 192 00:06:37,531 --> 00:06:39,299 He was there when I got my first car. 193 00:06:39,366 --> 00:06:40,634 My first, like, grown-up job. 194 00:06:40,701 --> 00:06:43,070 Like, all those firsts. 195 00:06:43,070 --> 00:06:44,271 - It's nice to have somebody like that. 196 00:06:44,338 --> 00:06:46,540 - Yeah, and also he has his [bleep] together. 197 00:06:46,607 --> 00:06:48,942 Like, he has a job, he's always traveling. 198 00:06:49,076 --> 00:06:51,445 Like, things like that I'm looking for. 199 00:06:51,512 --> 00:06:54,848 - So you believe Anthony is exactly what he says? 200 00:06:54,915 --> 00:06:57,384 - Yeah. I trust him with my feelings. 201 00:06:57,451 --> 00:06:58,585 - Why do you trust him? 202 00:06:58,652 --> 00:07:00,621 - What could he possibly be lying about? 203 00:07:00,687 --> 00:07:03,056 - Well, for starters, what he looks like. 204 00:07:03,123 --> 00:07:04,691 Because otherwise why wouldn't he get on a quick FaceTime 205 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:05,859 or send you a video? 206 00:07:05,926 --> 00:07:07,427 He's a model. 207 00:07:07,494 --> 00:07:10,297 - Well, models have bad days. 208 00:07:10,364 --> 00:07:13,233 - Yeah, but not bad eight years. 209 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:14,768 [both laugh] 210 00:07:14,835 --> 00:07:16,103 - What about the fight? 211 00:07:16,170 --> 00:07:18,272 In your email you said you got into a fight. 212 00:07:18,338 --> 00:07:21,041 - So one day, he's messaging me 213 00:07:21,108 --> 00:07:24,678 and he said, and I quote, "Pop a titty." 214 00:07:24,745 --> 00:07:27,047 And I was just like, you know what? 215 00:07:27,114 --> 00:07:29,183 I don't know why we've never FaceTimed, 216 00:07:29,249 --> 00:07:30,584 why we've never talked on the phone. 217 00:07:30,651 --> 00:07:31,585 And I literally said, I was like, 218 00:07:31,652 --> 00:07:33,053 "I'ma write 'Catfish.'" 219 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,555 And he's like, "Go ahead and do it." 220 00:07:34,621 --> 00:07:36,156 And I said "Okay." 221 00:07:36,223 --> 00:07:37,691 And then he blocked me. 222 00:07:37,758 --> 00:07:40,561 - And you still think that this person 223 00:07:40,627 --> 00:07:42,062 is not lying to you? 224 00:07:42,062 --> 00:07:43,363 - Yeah. 225 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:44,698 - Huh. - I need to see him. 226 00:07:44,765 --> 00:07:46,333 - Yeah. Show us your man. 227 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,068 - So here's his Instagram. 228 00:07:48,101 --> 00:07:50,337 - This is the Instagram of him that you found? 229 00:07:50,404 --> 00:07:52,940 - Yeah. - Anthony Foust. 230 00:07:53,073 --> 00:07:54,641 Los Angeles. 231 00:07:54,708 --> 00:07:57,077 There's a lot of content on here. 232 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:59,346 He's buff. - Mm-hmm. 233 00:07:59,413 --> 00:08:00,814 - He's cute. 234 00:08:00,881 --> 00:08:03,217 And when he's talking about these modeling jobs-- 235 00:08:03,283 --> 00:08:05,018 - He's not being specific. 236 00:08:05,085 --> 00:08:07,821 Just his modeling? - Just modeling. 237 00:08:07,888 --> 00:08:09,790 - I'm concerned. - [laughs] 238 00:08:09,857 --> 00:08:12,192 - Anytime the word "model" pops up on our show-- 239 00:08:12,259 --> 00:08:14,528 - I have concerns. - I have concerns. 240 00:08:14,595 --> 00:08:16,230 - Do people know that you've got this friend 241 00:08:16,296 --> 00:08:17,664 Anthony that you talk to? 242 00:08:17,731 --> 00:08:19,666 - Um, I mean, I try to tell, like, my friends, 243 00:08:19,733 --> 00:08:21,502 and then they were kinda like, "That's weird." 244 00:08:21,568 --> 00:08:23,036 But my friend Kia, she knows. 245 00:08:23,070 --> 00:08:24,905 Like she's known since I was 16. 246 00:08:25,038 --> 00:08:27,641 - Oh, wow. - To now. 247 00:08:27,708 --> 00:08:29,042 - So she knows everything? 248 00:08:29,042 --> 00:08:30,777 She knows all the details from start to finish? 249 00:08:30,844 --> 00:08:32,880 - Yeah. - But she's the only one? 250 00:08:32,946 --> 00:08:34,348 - Yeah. - What's her deal? 251 00:08:34,414 --> 00:08:35,516 Does she have a man? 252 00:08:35,582 --> 00:08:37,184 - She has a girlfriend. 253 00:08:37,251 --> 00:08:39,553 - Yeah, that's very presumptuous of you. 254 00:08:39,620 --> 00:08:41,755 - [laughs] - Well, I was trying to get 255 00:08:41,822 --> 00:08:44,057 to whether or not she might be interested in women. 256 00:08:44,091 --> 00:08:45,125 - Oh. 257 00:08:45,192 --> 00:08:47,461 - Because maybe it's your friend. 258 00:08:47,528 --> 00:08:48,795 - No. 259 00:08:48,862 --> 00:08:50,264 We've been friends since the second grade, 260 00:08:50,330 --> 00:08:52,633 so I don't think, like, she would randomly one day-- 261 00:08:52,699 --> 00:08:54,868 I'm 16--just randomly just add me. 262 00:08:54,935 --> 00:08:57,137 - Yeah, and you feel pretty confidently 263 00:08:57,204 --> 00:08:58,705 that it's him-- that it's this guy? 264 00:08:58,772 --> 00:09:02,276 - Clearly, there's some things that ring bells in my head. 265 00:09:02,342 --> 00:09:04,111 I'm not stupid, but like-- - Red flags. 266 00:09:04,178 --> 00:09:07,247 - Yeah, I just wanna know like all these years, like, 267 00:09:07,314 --> 00:09:09,917 who have I been confiding in this whole entire time? 268 00:09:10,017 --> 00:09:11,185 - All right. Well, I wanna know. 269 00:09:11,251 --> 00:09:12,252 - Me too. 270 00:09:12,319 --> 00:09:14,788 We've got our marching orders. 271 00:09:14,855 --> 00:09:16,924 Send us an email. All the info that you have. 272 00:09:17,024 --> 00:09:18,292 Everything. - Okay. 273 00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:19,593 - We'll get back to you. 274 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:21,495 Bye. - Bye. 275 00:09:21,562 --> 00:09:23,664 - Always a model. 276 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:26,333 All right. Well, what do you think? 277 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,801 I mean, come on. 278 00:09:27,868 --> 00:09:29,036 - You already know. - It's obviously not that guy. 279 00:09:29,102 --> 00:09:30,170 - Obviously. 280 00:09:30,237 --> 00:09:33,574 I think that the idea of Anthony 281 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,709 that Victoria's created in her mind 282 00:09:35,776 --> 00:09:38,312 is that of her 16-year-old self. 283 00:09:38,378 --> 00:09:39,713 - The timing wasn't right. 284 00:09:39,780 --> 00:09:40,881 And it's been almost a decade, 285 00:09:40,948 --> 00:09:43,217 and now the timing could finally be right. 286 00:09:43,283 --> 00:09:45,219 If the one guy that she's been sort of using 287 00:09:45,285 --> 00:09:48,422 as her gold standard ends up being full of [bleep], 288 00:09:48,488 --> 00:09:49,523 where does that leave her? 289 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:50,691 - We're gonna find out. 290 00:09:50,757 --> 00:09:52,826 One way or another. 291 00:09:54,966 --> 00:09:56,900 {\an7}- Let’s do it. 292 00:09:56,900 --> 00:09:58,768 {\an7}- [humming] 293 00:09:58,768 --> 00:09:59,900 {\an7}[upbeat music] 294 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:00,560 {\an7}- All right. 295 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:03,702 {\an7}We’ve got a lovely young woman, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hVictoria, 24. 296 00:10:03,702 --> 00:10:04,834 {\an7}And when she was 16, 297 00:10:04,834 --> 00:10:06,527 {\an7}Anthony followed her \h\h\h\hon Snapchat. 298 00:10:06,527 --> 00:10:08,230 {\an7}\h\h\h\hShe was into the fact that he had his life together. 299 00:10:08,230 --> 00:10:11,098 {\an7}They talk for a few years, but then Victoria ended up 300 00:10:11,098 --> 00:10:13,834 {\an7}\h\h\hgetting a real boyfriend, who she dated for three years. 301 00:10:13,834 --> 00:10:16,834 {\an7}When it finished, she got back \h\h\h\hin touch with Anthony. 302 00:10:16,834 --> 00:10:18,527 {\an7}And they’ve been talking \h\h\h\h\h\h\hever since. 303 00:10:18,527 --> 00:10:19,999 {\an7}- Most of their conversations \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hare on Snap. 304 00:10:19,999 --> 00:10:21,999 {\an7}- Right, but she found \han Instagram account 305 00:10:21,999 --> 00:10:23,131 {\an7}that she believes is him. 306 00:10:23,131 --> 00:10:25,230 {\an7}\hNow, he didn’t share that account with her, 307 00:10:25,230 --> 00:10:27,933 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hnor did he follow or any way engage with her 308 00:10:27,933 --> 00:10:28,900 {\an7}on that Instagram account. 309 00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:32,834 {\an7}But Victoria has been reserving \h\h\h\h\ha very special place 310 00:10:32,834 --> 00:10:34,164 {\an7}\h\h\h\hin her heart for this guy Anthony. 311 00:10:34,164 --> 00:10:35,999 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - So let’s see 312 00:10:35,999 --> 00:10:38,098 {\an7}if she sent us an email \h\hwith all the info. 313 00:10:38,098 --> 00:10:38,900 {\an7}Yes, she did. 314 00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:41,098 {\an7}"Hey, guys, here’s what I know \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\habout Anthony. 315 00:10:41,098 --> 00:10:42,527 {\an7}"His last name is Foust. 316 00:10:42,527 --> 00:10:43,933 {\an7}He’s 29, a model." 317 00:10:43,933 --> 00:10:46,933 {\an7}\h\h\h\hHis phone numbers are most recently a 917, 318 00:10:46,933 --> 00:10:48,560 {\an7}which is a New York City \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hnumber. 319 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:50,735 {\an7}\h\h- Mm-hmm. - And a 347. 320 00:10:50,735 --> 00:10:52,933 {\an7}"His Instagram is Sasukemaki. 321 00:10:52,933 --> 00:10:57,098 {\an7}His Snap is [bleep]master, but I’m blocked right now." 322 00:10:57,098 --> 00:11:00,164 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Good. - "Thanks again, Victoria." 323 00:11:00,164 --> 00:11:01,593 {\an7}All right, Kamie. \h\h- It’s great. 324 00:11:01,593 --> 00:11:02,900 {\an7}\h\h\hWe gotta-- - Ladies’ choice. 325 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:03,834 {\an7}What do you wanna do first? 326 00:11:03,834 --> 00:11:07,296 {\an7}- I think that we should look \h\h\h\h\h\hat the Instagram. 327 00:11:07,296 --> 00:11:08,296 {\an7}- Wait. What’s his Instagram? 328 00:11:08,296 --> 00:11:11,560 {\an7}\hSa...sukemaki. Oh, there he is. 329 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:13,164 {\an7}Anthony Foust. 330 00:11:13,164 --> 00:11:14,263 {\an7}- Anthony Foust. 331 00:11:14,263 --> 00:11:15,098 {\an7}- Model and musician. 332 00:11:15,098 --> 00:11:16,230 {\an7}Originally from Brooklyn, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hNew York. 333 00:11:16,230 --> 00:11:17,296 {\an7}Currently lives in Los Angeles. 334 00:11:17,296 --> 00:11:18,834 {\an7}- There’s a lot of content \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hon here. 335 00:11:18,834 --> 00:11:22,834 {\an7}\h\h\h- Yeah, right? His page has some serious engagement. 336 00:11:22,834 --> 00:11:23,867 {\an7}- It does. 337 00:11:23,867 --> 00:11:25,230 {\an7}- I mean, it feels legit. 338 00:11:25,230 --> 00:11:28,263 {\an7}\hBut she’s never actually interacted with this page. 339 00:11:28,263 --> 00:11:29,395 {\an7}- It’s not him. - It’s not him. 340 00:11:29,395 --> 00:11:31,065 {\an7}\h\hIt can’t be him. It’s a legit account. 341 00:11:31,065 --> 00:11:33,560 {\an7}Just not who she’s talking to. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. 342 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:34,801 {\an7}- Get anything else. 343 00:11:34,801 --> 00:11:35,900 {\an7}If you have a Snapchat, 344 00:11:35,900 --> 00:11:37,296 {\an7}and you’re comfortable \h\h\h\hposting photos 345 00:11:37,296 --> 00:11:39,834 {\an7}\h\hon other platforms because you’re a model, 346 00:11:39,834 --> 00:11:41,296 {\an7}you’d post a picture \h\h\h\hof yourself. 347 00:11:41,296 --> 00:11:42,329 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - Like it’s crazy. 348 00:11:42,329 --> 00:11:44,560 {\an7}- Yes, but it’s like how \h\h\h\hcan we prove it? 349 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,593 {\an7}- Well, hopefully by getting \h\h\h\h\hin touch with him. 350 00:11:46,593 --> 00:11:49,098 {\an7}All right, let’s send him \h\han Instagram message. 351 00:11:49,098 --> 00:11:51,230 {\an7}Hey, Anthony. 352 00:11:51,230 --> 00:11:51,900 {\an7}Okay, sent. 353 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:55,065 {\an7}Okay, so I wanna just, like, \h\h\h\hreach out to someone 354 00:11:55,065 --> 00:11:58,329 {\an7}who looks like is close friends \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith him. 355 00:11:58,329 --> 00:11:59,999 {\an7}\h\hWho is this guy? - My little brother. 356 00:11:59,999 --> 00:12:02,834 {\an7}- Oh. Oh, here he is. \h\h\h\h\hKingsouley. 357 00:12:02,834 --> 00:12:03,966 {\an7}So let’s message this guy. 358 00:12:03,966 --> 00:12:05,966 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h"Hey, this is Nev from the Tv show "Catfish." 359 00:12:05,966 --> 00:12:08,834 {\an7}"We could use your help \h\h\h\h\hwith a case." 360 00:12:08,834 --> 00:12:09,834 {\an7}- Mm-hmm. 361 00:12:09,834 --> 00:12:12,164 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- All right. So let’s keep on going here 362 00:12:12,164 --> 00:12:14,636 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hand let’s, uh, I guess run the numbers? 363 00:12:14,636 --> 00:12:16,933 {\an7}I mean, I know these \hare gonna be bogus. 364 00:12:16,933 --> 00:12:17,702 {\an7}[tense music] 365 00:12:17,702 --> 00:12:20,197 {\an7}\h\hOkay, so this number comes back with nothing. 366 00:12:20,197 --> 00:12:24,065 {\an7}Let’s try the other old number \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hjust in case. 367 00:12:24,065 --> 00:12:24,999 {\an7}Ooh, five possible owners. 368 00:12:24,999 --> 00:12:28,197 {\an7}How is this number coming back \hto so many different people? 369 00:12:28,197 --> 00:12:31,834 {\an7}Anthony Ny, Anthony Meany. 370 00:12:31,834 --> 00:12:34,263 {\an7}- Oh, Anthony N-Y. 371 00:12:34,263 --> 00:12:37,702 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm. - So maybe whenever "Anthony" 372 00:12:37,702 --> 00:12:39,867 {\an7}registered the number \h\h\h\hfor himself-- 373 00:12:39,867 --> 00:12:41,702 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right. - He must’ve made it 374 00:12:41,702 --> 00:12:43,867 {\an7}under Anthony NY, New York. 375 00:12:43,867 --> 00:12:46,329 {\an7}[cell phone ringing] \h- Oh, oh! H-Hello? 376 00:12:46,329 --> 00:12:48,999 {\an7}- Hey, this is Nev. Who’s this? 377 00:12:52,966 --> 00:12:53,834 {\an7}- Oh, amazing. 378 00:12:53,834 --> 00:12:56,801 {\an7}We saw you because Sasuke-- 379 00:12:58,296 --> 00:12:59,735 {\an7}- Oh, okay. Cool. 380 00:12:59,735 --> 00:13:02,296 {\an7}- He posted a picture of you \h\h\h\h\h\hon his Instagram. 381 00:13:02,296 --> 00:13:05,801 {\an7}- Do you know who I am and the TV show I make? 382 00:13:06,768 --> 00:13:07,527 {\an7}- Oh, great. Okay. 383 00:13:07,527 --> 00:13:09,098 {\an7}We’re making an episode of the show right now. 384 00:13:09,098 --> 00:13:15,428 {\an7}And we suspect that someone’s been using Anthony’s pictures 385 00:13:15,428 --> 00:13:18,032 {\an7}and pretending to be him. 386 00:13:19,032 --> 00:13:20,867 {\an7}- For eight years. 387 00:13:21,065 --> 00:13:23,461 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah, and he’s using his name too, 388 00:13:23,461 --> 00:13:24,428 {\an7}Anthony Foust. \h\h\h\h- Yeah. 389 00:13:24,428 --> 00:13:28,461 {\an7}- Unless your cousin’s actually \h\h\hbeen talking to this girl 390 00:13:28,461 --> 00:13:29,296 {\an7}for the last eight years. 391 00:13:29,296 --> 00:13:34,032 {\an7}So the question right now, \his he in a relationship? 392 00:13:36,098 --> 00:13:38,801 {\an7}- Okay. And as far as you know, 393 00:13:38,801 --> 00:13:41,131 {\an7}he doesn’t have a friend \h\h\h\h\hwho he’s known 394 00:13:41,131 --> 00:13:46,098 {\an7}\h\h\h\hfor a long time online called, um, Victoria, does he? 395 00:13:48,395 --> 00:13:50,098 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right. I also messaged him, 396 00:13:50,098 --> 00:13:51,428 {\an7}and I’m hoping he’ll get back \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto me 397 00:13:51,428 --> 00:13:54,768 {\an7}’cause I would love to ask-- \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. 398 00:13:56,966 --> 00:13:58,263 {\an7}- All right, amazing. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay. 399 00:13:58,263 --> 00:13:59,098 {\an7}- If you speak to him, 400 00:13:59,098 --> 00:14:00,834 {\an7}please let him know that we would love 401 00:14:00,834 --> 00:14:02,230 {\an7}to talk to him. \h- Thank you. 402 00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:04,032 {\an7}- Yeah, thanks so much, man. 403 00:14:04,461 --> 00:14:05,801 {\an7}- Later. \h- Bye. 404 00:14:05,801 --> 00:14:08,768 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- All right, so whoa. Lotta surprises in that call. 405 00:14:08,768 --> 00:14:10,362 {\an7}- Lotta surprises. \h\h- First of all, 406 00:14:10,362 --> 00:14:12,461 {\an7}Anthony is married. \h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. 407 00:14:12,461 --> 00:14:15,164 {\an7}- So even if it is him, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hnot good. 408 00:14:15,164 --> 00:14:15,900 {\an7}Second of all, 409 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:17,834 {\an7}\h\hthis friend has never obviously heard him talk 410 00:14:17,834 --> 00:14:20,098 {\an7}about anyone named Victoria. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm. 411 00:14:20,098 --> 00:14:22,065 {\an7}- So the chances \hof it being him 412 00:14:22,065 --> 00:14:23,933 {\an7}are getting infinitely smaller. 413 00:14:23,933 --> 00:14:26,834 {\an7}\h\hEven if it is him, when Victoria finds out 414 00:14:26,834 --> 00:14:29,296 {\an7}that the real Anthony \h\h\h\h\his married, 415 00:14:29,296 --> 00:14:32,230 {\an7}she’s gonna be very upset. 416 00:14:34,328 --> 00:14:35,262 {\an7}[knock at door] 417 00:14:35,262 --> 00:14:37,064 {\an7}[upbeat music] 418 00:14:37,064 --> 00:14:38,724 {\an7}- Hey. - Hey. 419 00:14:38,724 --> 00:14:40,361 {\an7}\h\h- Ooh. - Ooh, wow. 420 00:14:40,361 --> 00:14:44,064 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- Right. - Oh, looking good. 421 00:14:44,064 --> 00:14:46,163 {\an7}- What’s up? \h- Nothing. 422 00:14:46,163 --> 00:14:47,130 {\an7}- You haven’t heard anything? 423 00:14:47,130 --> 00:14:49,361 {\an7}Last night, you didn’t get hit up by anybody? 424 00:14:49,361 --> 00:14:50,262 {\an7}- Nope. Nothing. 425 00:14:50,262 --> 00:14:52,163 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- All right. Well, look, found some stuff 426 00:14:52,163 --> 00:14:54,724 {\an7}that I think you should see \h\h\hthat’s helped get us 427 00:14:54,724 --> 00:14:56,130 {\an7}a little bit closer \hto understanding 428 00:14:56,130 --> 00:14:57,031 {\an7}what’s going on here. 429 00:14:57,031 --> 00:14:59,163 {\an7}\h\h\h- Okay. - All right. 430 00:14:59,163 --> 00:15:02,922 {\an7}So his Instagram name \h\h\his Sasukemaki. 431 00:15:02,922 --> 00:15:05,229 {\an7}\h\hLots of posts. Lots of engagement. 432 00:15:05,229 --> 00:15:06,295 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- Okay. - It’s active. 433 00:15:06,295 --> 00:15:11,262 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hThis seems to suggest that Anthony is a real person. 434 00:15:11,262 --> 00:15:13,757 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm. - But is this the Anthony 435 00:15:13,757 --> 00:15:15,427 {\an7}you’re talking to? 436 00:15:15,427 --> 00:15:17,724 {\an7}So we did some phone searches. 437 00:15:17,724 --> 00:15:19,856 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm. - One of the numbers comes back 438 00:15:19,856 --> 00:15:21,823 {\an7}to five potential owners, 439 00:15:21,823 --> 00:15:23,823 {\an7}one of which is Anthony NY, 440 00:15:23,823 --> 00:15:27,427 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hor New York, which seems somewhat promising. 441 00:15:27,427 --> 00:15:28,262 {\an7}The next thing we did 442 00:15:28,262 --> 00:15:29,790 {\an7}is we sort of went through \h\h\h\h\h\hhis Instagram. 443 00:15:29,790 --> 00:15:33,031 {\an7}\h\hHis most recent photo is a screenshot of, uh,-- 444 00:15:33,031 --> 00:15:34,823 {\an7}\h\h- A FaceTime. - Him FaceTiming. 445 00:15:34,823 --> 00:15:37,163 {\an7}We ended up talking \h\hto kingsouley. 446 00:15:37,163 --> 00:15:39,823 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd we just said, "Hey, how do you know Anthony? 447 00:15:39,823 --> 00:15:42,790 {\an7}\h\h\h\hWhat’s his deal? Is he in a relationship?" 448 00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:45,262 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- He’s like, "Yeah, he’s married. 449 00:15:45,262 --> 00:15:47,229 {\an7}And he has a daughter." 450 00:15:47,229 --> 00:15:48,998 {\an7}- What? 451 00:15:48,998 --> 00:15:50,427 {\an7}- So that obviously came \h\h\h\h\h\h\has a shock. 452 00:15:50,427 --> 00:15:51,361 {\an7}If it is him, 453 00:15:51,361 --> 00:15:54,163 {\an7}what’s he doing talking to you \h\h\h\h\h\hwhile he’s married? 454 00:15:54,163 --> 00:15:57,229 {\an7}- Like, I wouldn’t just send \h\h\hnudes to a married man. 455 00:15:57,229 --> 00:15:58,031 {\an7}That’s not my thing. 456 00:15:58,031 --> 00:16:00,757 {\an7}- Or is it potentially someone \h\h\h\h\h\hentirely different? 457 00:16:00,757 --> 00:16:04,460 {\an7}\h\hSomeone stealing both his photos and his name. 458 00:16:04,460 --> 00:16:06,757 {\an7}Look, whenever we are dealing \h\h\h\h\h\hwith a situation 459 00:16:06,757 --> 00:16:09,031 {\an7}where someone’s been talking \h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor this long-- 460 00:16:09,031 --> 00:16:10,064 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm. - And they’ve never been 461 00:16:10,064 --> 00:16:12,460 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hon the phone, there’s always a chance 462 00:16:12,460 --> 00:16:13,295 {\an7}that it could be someone 463 00:16:13,295 --> 00:16:15,427 {\an7}whose voice you either \h\hwould recognize... 464 00:16:15,427 --> 00:16:18,163 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - Or it the sort of opposite 465 00:16:18,163 --> 00:16:20,757 {\an7}gender than what’d you expect. 466 00:16:21,790 --> 00:16:23,064 {\an7}- I don’t know who would do \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthis to me. 467 00:16:23,064 --> 00:16:25,196 {\an7}- Do you have any friends \h\h\h\h\hfrom New York? 468 00:16:25,196 --> 00:16:26,427 {\an7}- Yeah, Kia’s from New York. 469 00:16:26,427 --> 00:16:27,823 {\an7}\hHer girlfriend’s from New York too. 470 00:16:27,823 --> 00:16:29,196 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Is that a long-term relationship? 471 00:16:29,196 --> 00:16:31,856 {\an7}- Um, they’ve been together \hfor like a year, I think. 472 00:16:31,856 --> 00:16:34,196 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay, so not like forever, but-- 473 00:16:34,196 --> 00:16:35,163 {\an7}\h\h- Yeah. - A while. 474 00:16:35,163 --> 00:16:36,262 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - But you’ve never had 475 00:16:36,262 --> 00:16:39,559 {\an7}any reason to believe that Kia \h\h\hhas a crush on you or... 476 00:16:39,559 --> 00:16:41,064 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- Oh, no. - Liked you before? 477 00:16:41,064 --> 00:16:42,856 {\an7}- Oh, no. Absolutely not. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- No. 478 00:16:42,856 --> 00:16:45,163 {\an7}- I still think it’s Anthony. 479 00:16:45,163 --> 00:16:45,691 {\an7}[laughs] 480 00:16:45,691 --> 00:16:48,163 {\an7}- But would that even be \h\h\h\h\h\ha good thing? 481 00:16:48,163 --> 00:16:50,031 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Girl. - Well, now that like 482 00:16:50,031 --> 00:16:52,493 {\an7}if he’s married, of course not. 483 00:16:52,493 --> 00:16:54,559 {\an7}But, like, I don’t know. 484 00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:56,361 {\an7}- Well, we did message him. 485 00:16:56,361 --> 00:16:58,592 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- That’s true. - And he didn’t respond. 486 00:16:58,592 --> 00:16:59,955 {\an7}Why would you not respond? 487 00:16:59,955 --> 00:17:01,427 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - If you’re not doing anything. 488 00:17:01,427 --> 00:17:03,592 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Like, it makes me feel uneasy. 489 00:17:03,592 --> 00:17:05,163 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hLike, ’cause it’s been eight years. 490 00:17:05,163 --> 00:17:08,328 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hWho knows about me, and I don’t know about them? 491 00:17:08,328 --> 00:17:11,559 {\an7}- Check our messages. Maybe he messaged us. 492 00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:14,130 {\an7}- Oh, he wrote back. \h\hJust wrote back. 493 00:17:14,130 --> 00:17:14,691 {\an7}- Ooh! 494 00:17:14,691 --> 00:17:16,163 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- He said, "I don’t trust you 495 00:17:16,163 --> 00:17:18,064 {\an7}"and I don’t trust Victoria. 496 00:17:18,064 --> 00:17:19,427 {\an7}But we need to talk, \h\h\hand I think..." 497 00:17:19,427 --> 00:17:23,823 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- What? - "It needs to be in person." 498 00:17:23,823 --> 00:17:25,394 {\an7}\h\h\h- What? [phone chimes] 499 00:17:25,394 --> 00:17:28,592 {\an7}- "I’m at Mineral Wells \h\h\hin Griffith Park. 500 00:17:28,592 --> 00:17:31,889 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hMeet here?" Okay, Anthony. Fine. 501 00:17:31,889 --> 00:17:36,361 {\an7}We will meet you there. 502 00:17:36,361 --> 00:17:42,064 {\an7}I think we should go hear \hwhat Sasuke has to say. 503 00:17:42,064 --> 00:17:43,394 {\an7}- Saucy Sasuke. 504 00:17:43,394 --> 00:17:44,361 {\an7}- [laughs] 505 00:17:44,361 --> 00:17:46,361 {\an7}- Got a attitude. 506 00:17:46,361 --> 00:17:48,361 {\an7}♪ ♪ 507 00:17:48,361 --> 00:17:50,460 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I mean, I was completely ready 508 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:56,097 {\an7}to eliminate Sasuke Anthony \h\hfrom this whole thing. 509 00:17:56,097 --> 00:17:57,295 {\an7}And then that message... 510 00:17:57,295 --> 00:18:01,592 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- "I don’t trust you, and I don’t trust Victoria." 511 00:18:01,592 --> 00:18:04,196 {\an7}- I didn’t do nothing \h\h\h\hto that man. 512 00:18:04,196 --> 00:18:06,229 {\an7}- Mineral Wells. 513 00:18:06,229 --> 00:18:09,658 {\an7}♪ ♪ 514 00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:12,295 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- All right. Should we check it out? 515 00:18:12,295 --> 00:18:13,361 {\an7}- Yeah. 516 00:18:13,361 --> 00:18:16,493 {\an7}[suspenseful music] 517 00:18:16,493 --> 00:18:23,922 {\an7}♪ ♪ 518 00:18:23,922 --> 00:18:25,493 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I don’t see why we’re supposed to trust 519 00:18:25,493 --> 00:18:27,625 {\an7}that he’s gonna meet us here. 520 00:18:27,625 --> 00:18:30,295 {\an7}- Oh, here’s someone coming down the path. 521 00:18:30,295 --> 00:18:31,493 {\an7}\h\h\h- [gasps] - Right there. 522 00:18:31,493 --> 00:18:32,295 {\an7}- Look, right here. 523 00:18:32,295 --> 00:18:33,955 {\an7}- That’s definitely him, right? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. 524 00:18:33,955 --> 00:18:34,691 {\an7}That’s him. 525 00:18:34,691 --> 00:18:37,328 {\an7}And he’s definitely coming in \h\h\h\hwith some animosity. 526 00:18:37,328 --> 00:18:38,361 {\an7}- Yes. 527 00:18:38,361 --> 00:18:41,064 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- What’s up? - Hey, man. What’s up? 528 00:18:41,064 --> 00:18:42,097 {\an7}- Hi. 529 00:18:42,097 --> 00:18:43,163 {\an7}- How are you? 530 00:18:43,163 --> 00:18:44,559 {\an7}- Anthony, it’s a pleasure. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Anthony. 531 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:45,691 {\an7}I wasn’t sure to call you-- \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Kamie. 532 00:18:45,691 --> 00:18:47,064 {\an7}\h- Anthony. - Or Sasuke. 533 00:18:47,064 --> 00:18:49,064 {\an7}- Yeah, it’s whatever. \h\h\h\hWhatever works. 534 00:18:49,064 --> 00:18:52,361 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay. - What’s going on right now? 535 00:18:52,361 --> 00:18:53,427 {\an7}- Well, we actually were hoping 536 00:18:53,427 --> 00:18:55,295 {\an7}you might help us figure \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat out. 537 00:18:55,295 --> 00:18:56,724 {\an7}- This... 538 00:18:56,724 --> 00:18:58,427 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h--I don’t do all this extra [bleep]. 539 00:18:58,427 --> 00:19:00,691 {\an7}You feel me? Like I’m personal. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right. 540 00:19:00,691 --> 00:19:02,262 {\an7}- So when I’m getting threatening messages 541 00:19:02,262 --> 00:19:05,229 {\an7}\htalking about "Don’t talk to ’Catfish’ and [bleep]"-- 542 00:19:05,229 --> 00:19:06,592 {\an7}- Who said that? \h- A Victoria-- 543 00:19:06,592 --> 00:19:08,361 {\an7}a Victoria page. 544 00:19:08,361 --> 00:19:09,295 {\an7}That’s weird to me. 545 00:19:09,295 --> 00:19:12,031 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- All right, well, let me try and clear this up. 546 00:19:12,031 --> 00:19:14,559 {\an7}All right, so this is Victoria. 547 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:16,427 {\an7}Since Victoria was a teenager, 548 00:19:16,427 --> 00:19:19,064 {\an7}she’s been talking to this guy online, 549 00:19:19,064 --> 00:19:22,724 {\an7}\hand he’s told her his name is Anthony 550 00:19:22,724 --> 00:19:25,163 {\an7}and sent some pictures of you. 551 00:19:25,163 --> 00:19:28,625 {\an7}- I’ve never spoken to her \h\h\h\h\ha day in my life. 552 00:19:28,625 --> 00:19:31,394 {\an7}[soft somber music] 553 00:19:31,394 --> 00:19:32,625 {\an7}\h\h- So you’re not the [bleep]master? 554 00:19:32,625 --> 00:19:34,691 {\an7}- Nah, I got a girl. \h\h\hI got a child. 555 00:19:34,691 --> 00:19:35,856 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right. - I don’t--I’m not into that. 556 00:19:35,856 --> 00:19:38,196 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hThat’s too much. - We didn’t think you were. 557 00:19:38,196 --> 00:19:39,757 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Uh-huh. - So if you don’t mind, 558 00:19:39,757 --> 00:19:42,130 {\an7}who’s this person--somebody \h\h\h\h\hwith the account 559 00:19:42,130 --> 00:19:44,427 {\an7}Victoria has been telling you \h\h\h\h\hnot to talk to us? 560 00:19:44,427 --> 00:19:46,724 {\an7}’Cause that could be \h\h\hthe same person 561 00:19:46,724 --> 00:19:49,295 {\an7}that Victoria is talking to. 562 00:19:49,295 --> 00:19:50,493 {\an7}- As you can see... 563 00:19:50,493 --> 00:19:52,394 {\an7}- Okay, do you mind if I just? \h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah, of course. 564 00:19:52,394 --> 00:19:53,526 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- All right, so you got a message 565 00:19:53,526 --> 00:19:58,064 {\an7}from a victoriouslylmao \h\hwith zero followers 566 00:19:58,064 --> 00:20:01,097 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hthat just says, "Stay away from ’Catfish.’ 567 00:20:01,097 --> 00:20:02,394 {\an7}"They’re trying to mess \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith you. 568 00:20:02,394 --> 00:20:03,361 {\an7}Stay away from it." 569 00:20:03,361 --> 00:20:04,460 {\an7}So someone was trying 570 00:20:04,460 --> 00:20:06,394 {\an7}to get you not to talk to us. 571 00:20:06,394 --> 00:20:08,658 {\an7}\h\h- Yeah, basically. - Because it’s probably 572 00:20:08,658 --> 00:20:10,097 {\an7}the same person. 573 00:20:10,097 --> 00:20:11,130 {\an7}- It’s definitely the same person. 574 00:20:11,130 --> 00:20:13,097 {\an7}\h\h\h- That’s been pretending to be you talking to Victoria. 575 00:20:13,097 --> 00:20:15,130 {\an7}- It all makes sense now. 576 00:20:15,130 --> 00:20:18,097 {\an7}\h\h\h- I’m--I’m sorry that that even happened to you. 577 00:20:18,097 --> 00:20:20,361 {\an7}But... 578 00:20:20,361 --> 00:20:21,559 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hSorry? You know what I mean. 579 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:23,493 {\an7}both: It’s not your fault. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. 580 00:20:23,493 --> 00:20:25,163 {\an7}\h- All right, well, we just--we’re trying 581 00:20:25,163 --> 00:20:28,031 {\an7}to clear that up. 582 00:20:28,031 --> 00:20:28,625 {\an7}Huh. 583 00:20:28,625 --> 00:20:30,757 {\an7}Anyway, yeah. Good to meet you. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Pleasure. 584 00:20:30,757 --> 00:20:32,031 {\an7}- Thank you. \h- Stay up. 585 00:20:32,031 --> 00:20:35,394 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hBe a holy woman. - [laughing] Good to meet you. 586 00:20:35,394 --> 00:20:36,460 {\an7}Thanks for coming. 587 00:20:36,460 --> 00:20:37,460 {\an7}- Thanks, Anthony. \h\h\h\h\h- Right. 588 00:20:37,460 --> 00:20:40,130 {\an7}- ♪ Wake up just to see that ♪ 589 00:20:40,130 --> 00:20:42,526 {\an7}- [sighs] 590 00:20:42,526 --> 00:20:43,328 {\an7}- ♪ Gone ♪ 591 00:20:43,328 --> 00:20:46,262 {\an7}\h- I feel bad ’cause I know that you still were thinking 592 00:20:46,262 --> 00:20:47,163 {\an7}that it could’ve been him. 593 00:20:47,163 --> 00:20:49,427 {\an7}\h- ♪ Never real, they never stay ♪ 594 00:20:49,427 --> 00:20:53,196 {\an7}♪ When they like you, \h\h\hthey walk away ♪ 595 00:20:53,196 --> 00:20:54,658 {\an7}♪ Oh, oh ♪ 596 00:20:54,658 --> 00:20:58,559 {\an7}\h- Like, I can’t say I don’t feel nothing. 597 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:00,460 {\an7}And it sucks. 598 00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:02,493 {\an7}I just kinda feel disappointed. 599 00:21:02,493 --> 00:21:04,691 {\an7}Like, I just feel like it’s, \hlike, gonna be no answers. 600 00:21:04,691 --> 00:21:07,691 {\an7}\h\hLike, I’ve been talking to this man since I was 16. 601 00:21:07,691 --> 00:21:09,592 {\an7}- ♪ Wake up just to see ♪ 602 00:21:09,592 --> 00:21:10,559 {\an7}- And then it’s like 603 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:12,394 {\an7}I don’t know where to go \h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom here. 604 00:21:12,394 --> 00:21:15,790 {\an7}- ♪ Gone ♪ 605 00:21:17,856 --> 00:21:19,219 {\an7}- Like eight years, \h\hlike, it sucks. 606 00:21:19,219 --> 00:21:21,219 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm. - And then it’s like 607 00:21:21,219 --> 00:21:23,153 {\an7}I don’t know where to go \h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom here. 608 00:21:23,153 --> 00:21:25,087 {\an7}So what are the next steps? 609 00:21:25,087 --> 00:21:26,351 {\an7}Like... 610 00:21:26,351 --> 00:21:29,483 {\an7}- Well, we could still text \h\h\h\htheir phone number. 611 00:21:29,483 --> 00:21:33,757 {\an7}This is Nev from "Catfish." 612 00:21:33,757 --> 00:21:38,658 {\an7}We would love to speak \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith you. 613 00:21:38,658 --> 00:21:40,219 {\an7}Sent. 614 00:21:40,219 --> 00:21:42,790 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hBut I don’t see why we don’t potentially also try 615 00:21:42,790 --> 00:21:44,384 {\an7}the Snapchat route. 616 00:21:44,384 --> 00:21:46,483 {\an7}So I’ll just add him here. 617 00:21:46,483 --> 00:21:49,285 {\an7}And potentially try to talk \h\h\h\h\h\h\hto him here. 618 00:21:49,285 --> 00:21:51,219 {\an7}[phone chimes] \h\h- [gasps] 619 00:21:51,219 --> 00:21:52,120 {\an7}- Oh! - Oh. 620 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:55,384 {\an7}- [bleep] added us on Snapchat. 621 00:21:55,384 --> 00:21:57,087 {\an7}[laughs] 622 00:21:57,087 --> 00:21:57,757 {\an7}Should I say hi? 623 00:21:57,757 --> 00:21:59,285 {\an7}- Snapchat is not obvious \h\h\h\h\h\hthat it’s us. 624 00:21:59,285 --> 00:22:01,351 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - So maybe it’s just a normal-- 625 00:22:01,351 --> 00:22:04,186 {\an7}\h- Just--they just checked-- - Be like, "Hey, new friend." 626 00:22:04,186 --> 00:22:07,351 {\an7}\h\h\hBut also, Snapchat, you can put your location 627 00:22:07,351 --> 00:22:09,153 {\an7}on your profile, right? 628 00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:10,153 {\an7}- Oh, yeah. Look. Oh! 629 00:22:10,153 --> 00:22:11,592 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh. - They’re on the map. [gasps] 630 00:22:11,592 --> 00:22:13,318 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- What is it, what is it, what is it? 631 00:22:13,318 --> 00:22:16,384 {\an7}- Charlotte, North Carolina. 632 00:22:16,384 --> 00:22:18,186 {\an7}- That’s where my friend lives. 633 00:22:18,186 --> 00:22:19,592 {\an7}- Which friend? \h\h\h\h- Kia. 634 00:22:19,592 --> 00:22:20,823 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- It’s him! - Kia is the friend 635 00:22:20,823 --> 00:22:21,889 {\an7}with the girlfriend? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. 636 00:22:21,889 --> 00:22:24,153 {\an7}\h\h\h- That you don’t think has ever had a crush on you? 637 00:22:24,153 --> 00:22:25,559 {\an7}- It can’t be. 638 00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:27,856 {\an7}Never. Never, never, never. 639 00:22:27,856 --> 00:22:29,120 {\an7}- Well, they’re in Charlotte. 640 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:32,186 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m confident that we can coax this person 641 00:22:32,186 --> 00:22:33,526 {\an7}into hopefully meeting up \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith us. 642 00:22:33,526 --> 00:22:34,691 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd I think if we’re in Charlotte, 643 00:22:34,691 --> 00:22:36,823 {\an7}it’s a heck of a lot easier \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto do that. 644 00:22:36,823 --> 00:22:37,691 {\an7}- Yeah. 645 00:22:37,691 --> 00:22:40,120 {\an7}\h\h\h\hMight as well. I have nothing to lose. 646 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:41,120 {\an7}- Listen. 647 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:45,417 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Buddy. - We know you’re in NC. 648 00:22:45,417 --> 00:22:48,450 {\an7}Meet you on Friday. 649 00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:51,252 {\an7}[dramatic music] 650 00:22:51,252 --> 00:22:52,691 {\an7}- I know that you wanna think 651 00:22:52,691 --> 00:22:57,186 {\an7}that Kia could not possibly \hbe responsible for this. 652 00:22:57,186 --> 00:22:58,483 {\an7}But what if it is her? 653 00:22:58,483 --> 00:23:00,691 {\an7}\h- That would take a detrimental toll 654 00:23:00,691 --> 00:23:02,417 {\an7}on our friendship. 655 00:23:02,417 --> 00:23:04,658 {\an7}[sighs] 656 00:23:04,658 --> 00:23:07,285 {\an7}I don’t even wanna think \h\h\habout it being her. 657 00:23:07,285 --> 00:23:09,526 {\an7}- I mean, the real question \his like do you know where 658 00:23:09,526 --> 00:23:10,856 {\an7}in Charlotte your friend lives? 659 00:23:10,856 --> 00:23:13,285 {\an7}- Actually, I think my mom \h\h\hhas her address too. 660 00:23:13,285 --> 00:23:15,592 {\an7}- Text your mom, and I think \h\hwe should get outta here, 661 00:23:15,592 --> 00:23:17,922 {\an7}so that we can start getting \h\hready to leave tomorrow. 662 00:23:17,922 --> 00:23:20,219 {\an7}- Oh, Charlotte. 663 00:23:20,219 --> 00:23:22,691 {\an7}Here we come. 664 00:23:23,252 --> 00:23:26,153 {\an7}- ♪ Yeah ♪ 665 00:23:26,153 --> 00:23:28,483 {\an7}♪ Eight in the morning, \h\h\h\h\h\hwaking up ♪ 666 00:23:28,483 --> 00:23:31,186 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- All black? - All black travel fit. 667 00:23:31,186 --> 00:23:31,988 {\an7}You know? - Period. 668 00:23:31,988 --> 00:23:33,559 {\an7}- Well, I’ve got a new suitcase 669 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:34,889 {\an7}that I’m very excited about. 670 00:23:34,889 --> 00:23:35,856 {\an7}- That’s cute. 671 00:23:35,856 --> 00:23:37,757 {\an7}- ♪ Up for me, she said ♪ 672 00:23:37,757 --> 00:23:38,559 {\an7}- Any updates? Any news? 673 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:40,889 {\an7}- I talked to Kia last-- \h\h\hwell, this morning. 674 00:23:40,889 --> 00:23:42,483 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Really? - I texted her and I was like, 675 00:23:42,483 --> 00:23:44,625 {\an7}"Hey, we’re gonna go \hto North Carolina." 676 00:23:44,625 --> 00:23:45,823 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hMm-hmm. - And what’d she say? 677 00:23:45,823 --> 00:23:48,219 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- She said, "Oh, my God, bitch." 678 00:23:48,219 --> 00:23:49,790 {\an7}- Is excited? \h\h\h- Yeah. 679 00:23:49,790 --> 00:23:51,153 {\an7}So we left it at that. 680 00:23:51,153 --> 00:23:54,219 {\an7}She hasn’t responded since. \h\hI think she’s at work. 681 00:23:54,219 --> 00:23:55,219 {\an7}- Right. \h\h- So. 682 00:23:55,219 --> 00:23:56,559 {\an7}- Oh, my God. All right. 683 00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:59,625 {\an7}Well, look, the Snapchat \hlocation from yesterday 684 00:23:59,625 --> 00:24:00,757 {\an7}is our best lead right now. 685 00:24:00,757 --> 00:24:02,757 {\an7}At least we know they’re \h\h\hin North Carolina. 686 00:24:02,757 --> 00:24:04,318 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - So if we’re there, 687 00:24:04,318 --> 00:24:06,790 {\an7}we can start poking around, \h\hand we can bother them, 688 00:24:06,790 --> 00:24:08,483 {\an7}and maybe we’ll get lucky. 689 00:24:08,483 --> 00:24:10,351 {\an7}All right, you ready? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- No. 690 00:24:10,351 --> 00:24:11,757 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yup. - We’re gonna do this? 691 00:24:11,757 --> 00:24:12,625 {\an7}- Yeah. 692 00:24:12,625 --> 00:24:13,450 {\an7}\hOne. - Hey! 693 00:24:13,450 --> 00:24:15,658 {\an7}- ♪ Makin’ ’em talk ♪ 694 00:24:15,658 --> 00:24:17,483 {\an7}♪ Makin’ ’em, makin’ ’em ♪ 695 00:24:17,483 --> 00:24:19,922 {\an7}♪ Makin’ ’em talk ♪ 696 00:24:19,922 --> 00:24:21,384 {\an7}♪ Watch me ♪ 697 00:24:21,384 --> 00:24:23,559 {\an7}♪ Makin’ ’em talk ♪ 698 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:25,252 {\an7}- All right. 699 00:24:25,252 --> 00:24:27,252 {\an7}- ♪ Makin’ ’em talk ♪ 700 00:24:27,252 --> 00:24:32,285 {\an7}\h\h- Going up to the hotel until the morning, friends. 701 00:24:32,285 --> 00:24:34,658 {\an7}Logging off. 702 00:24:36,955 --> 00:24:37,922 {\an7}- All right. Good morning. 703 00:24:37,922 --> 00:24:40,417 {\an7}- Good morning. - Good morning. 704 00:24:40,417 --> 00:24:43,219 {\an7}- Well, we haven’t heard \h\hanything back still. 705 00:24:43,219 --> 00:24:44,417 {\an7}- I did text him. \h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh. 706 00:24:44,417 --> 00:24:45,691 {\an7}- Texted Anthony? \h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. 707 00:24:45,691 --> 00:24:46,724 {\an7}I said, "Hey, I’m in Charlotte. 708 00:24:46,724 --> 00:24:48,988 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"They’re accusing my best friend for playing me, 709 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:50,285 {\an7}"and it’s now or never. 710 00:24:50,285 --> 00:24:51,417 {\an7}What’s good with you?" 711 00:24:51,417 --> 00:24:54,559 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Wait, so if that is your best friend, 712 00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:56,856 {\an7}now she knows... \h\h\h\h- Uh-huh. 713 00:24:56,856 --> 00:24:57,988 {\an7}- That we think it’s her. 714 00:24:57,988 --> 00:25:00,219 {\an7}\h\h- Uh-huh. - Very true. 715 00:25:00,219 --> 00:25:02,351 {\an7}- All right, well, this is-- \h\hyou know what? It’s fine. 716 00:25:02,351 --> 00:25:03,252 {\an7}It’s inevitable. 717 00:25:03,252 --> 00:25:04,054 {\an7}We’re showing our cards. 718 00:25:04,054 --> 00:25:05,691 {\an7}- We’re already here. \h\h\h\h- We’re here. 719 00:25:05,691 --> 00:25:07,757 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I mean, my mom did give me the address 720 00:25:07,757 --> 00:25:09,889 {\an7}for her when I--remember-- \h\h\h\h\h- Oh. Kia’s add-- 721 00:25:09,889 --> 00:25:11,658 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Wait. 722 00:25:11,658 --> 00:25:13,384 {\an7}Gimme Kia’s address. \h\h\h\h\hWhat is it? 723 00:25:13,384 --> 00:25:16,625 {\an7}- It is 1801-- \h\h\h- Uh-huh. 724 00:25:16,625 --> 00:25:18,351 {\an7}- [bleep] Avenue. 725 00:25:18,351 --> 00:25:19,021 {\an7}- Oh! 726 00:25:19,021 --> 00:25:20,889 {\an7}He wrote me just now. \h\h\h\h\h\h- [gasps] 727 00:25:20,889 --> 00:25:21,955 {\an7}- Wait. - Whoa. 728 00:25:21,955 --> 00:25:22,790 {\an7}It just said, "Okay. 729 00:25:22,790 --> 00:25:25,988 {\an7}"I know I don’t have a choice \h\h\h\h\hsince you’re here. 730 00:25:25,988 --> 00:25:27,757 {\an7}I’ll meet you." 731 00:25:27,757 --> 00:25:29,483 {\an7}\h\h- Uh-huh. - So hold on. 732 00:25:29,483 --> 00:25:34,021 {\an7}\h"You are making the right choice. 733 00:25:34,021 --> 00:25:38,054 {\an7}When and where can we meet?" 734 00:25:38,054 --> 00:25:40,823 {\an7}Oh, wrote back! [gasps] 735 00:25:40,823 --> 00:25:42,054 {\an7}- What? - What? 736 00:25:42,054 --> 00:25:43,054 {\an7}- Wait, [bleep] Avenue. 737 00:25:43,054 --> 00:25:46,856 {\an7}- 1801 [bleep] Avenue. \h\h\h\hSound familiar? 738 00:25:46,856 --> 00:25:49,757 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hThat’s the address-- - That’s your friend’s address? 739 00:25:49,757 --> 00:25:51,625 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - That’s Kia’s address. 740 00:25:51,625 --> 00:25:54,790 {\an7}- Just when I was ready to say \h\h\h\h\h\hthat it wasn’t her. 741 00:25:54,790 --> 00:25:56,757 {\an7}[suspenseful music] 742 00:25:56,757 --> 00:25:57,691 {\an7}- I mean, 743 00:25:57,691 --> 00:25:59,922 {\an7}\h\h\h\hI don’t think that’s a coincidence. 744 00:25:59,922 --> 00:26:01,021 {\an7}♪ ♪ 745 00:26:01,021 --> 00:26:03,384 {\an7}- I’m just gonna assume \h\h\h\h\hit’s a person 746 00:26:03,384 --> 00:26:05,483 {\an7}in the same apartment complex. 747 00:26:05,483 --> 00:26:07,384 {\an7}- "Okay. Cool. 748 00:26:07,384 --> 00:26:10,889 {\an7}"We will head there now. 749 00:26:10,889 --> 00:26:12,625 {\an7}See you soon." 750 00:26:12,625 --> 00:26:15,054 {\an7}- That’s crazy to think \hthat your best friend 751 00:26:15,054 --> 00:26:18,526 {\an7}\h\h\h\hfrom childhood would be catfishing you for eight years. 752 00:26:18,526 --> 00:26:23,691 {\an7}- Why don’t we just go and hear \h\hit from the horse’s mouth? 753 00:26:23,691 --> 00:26:24,384 {\an7}All right. 754 00:26:24,384 --> 00:26:25,856 {\an7}- I’m as ready as I’ll ever be. 755 00:26:25,856 --> 00:26:27,691 {\an7}Let’s go. 756 00:26:27,691 --> 00:26:29,757 {\an7}- Okay. 757 00:26:29,757 --> 00:26:33,691 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- I’m gonna hope that she gave the account 758 00:26:33,691 --> 00:26:35,483 {\an7}to a fine man-- 759 00:26:35,483 --> 00:26:36,922 {\an7}- Who she lives with. 760 00:26:36,922 --> 00:26:38,417 {\an7}- I don’t know. 761 00:26:38,417 --> 00:26:39,526 {\an7}I don’t think it’s her. 762 00:26:39,526 --> 00:26:43,120 {\an7}\h\h- I hope there’s another explanation for all of this. 763 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,417 {\an7}There has to be. 764 00:26:44,417 --> 00:26:45,922 {\an7}- There has to be. 765 00:26:45,922 --> 00:26:47,559 {\an7}- Is it this red one? \h\h\h\h\h- I guess. 766 00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,120 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - ’Cause it--yeah. 767 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:50,021 {\an7}All right. 768 00:26:50,021 --> 00:26:52,988 {\an7}Well, I guess this is it. 769 00:26:52,988 --> 00:26:55,351 {\an7}\h\h\h\hWhatever happens, whoever opens that door, 770 00:26:55,351 --> 00:26:59,087 {\an7}\h\h\h\hlet’s just see what whoever this is has to say 771 00:26:59,087 --> 00:27:01,351 {\an7}\h\hbefore we jump to any conclusions. 772 00:27:01,351 --> 00:27:05,120 {\an7}- Okay. Let’s do this. 773 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,691 {\an7}♪ ♪ 774 00:27:08,691 --> 00:27:09,823 {\an7}- All right, well. 775 00:27:09,823 --> 00:27:17,450 {\an7}♪ ♪ 776 00:27:20,417 --> 00:27:22,120 {\an7}[gasps] He’s coming. - Somebody’s coming. 777 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:23,823 {\an7}- Somebody is coming. 778 00:27:23,823 --> 00:27:26,054 {\an7}♪ ♪ 779 00:27:28,942 --> 00:27:30,645 {\an7}[knock at door] 780 00:27:30,645 --> 00:27:31,305 {\an7}- Oh. 781 00:27:31,305 --> 00:27:34,404 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh. [door clicks open] 782 00:27:34,404 --> 00:27:34,975 {\an7}- Hi. 783 00:27:34,975 --> 00:27:36,645 {\an7}- How you doing? \h\h\h- I’m Nev. 784 00:27:36,645 --> 00:27:39,041 {\an7}- Ashanti. - Ashanti. 785 00:27:39,041 --> 00:27:40,546 {\an7}Hi. 786 00:27:43,513 --> 00:27:45,437 {\an7}- So come on out. 787 00:27:45,437 --> 00:27:47,777 {\an7}[tense music] 788 00:27:47,777 --> 00:27:49,645 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- Hi. - Do you know-- 789 00:27:49,645 --> 00:27:50,942 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- Hey. - This person? 790 00:27:50,942 --> 00:27:52,513 {\an7}- Yes. - Okay. 791 00:27:52,513 --> 00:27:54,513 {\an7}- It’s Kia’s girlfriend. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yes. 792 00:27:54,513 --> 00:27:56,041 {\an7}- Oh. Oh, okay. 793 00:27:56,041 --> 00:27:56,876 {\an7}Is Kia here? 794 00:27:56,876 --> 00:27:58,371 {\an7}- She’s not here right now. 795 00:27:58,371 --> 00:28:00,404 {\an7}- Does--but Kia knows-- 796 00:28:00,404 --> 00:28:02,843 {\an7}well, does Kia know we’re here? 797 00:28:02,843 --> 00:28:04,810 {\an7}♪ ♪ 798 00:28:04,810 --> 00:28:08,645 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- No. - Do you know why we’re here? 799 00:28:08,645 --> 00:28:10,404 {\an7}- I’m Anthony. 800 00:28:10,404 --> 00:28:11,843 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Wait, wait. How’s that even possible? 801 00:28:11,843 --> 00:28:14,612 {\an7}\h’Cause she’s been talking to Anthony for eight years. 802 00:28:14,612 --> 00:28:16,612 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- Yeah, um-- - It hasn’t been you 803 00:28:16,612 --> 00:28:17,777 {\an7}the whole time? 804 00:28:17,777 --> 00:28:19,513 {\an7}- It has been. 805 00:28:19,513 --> 00:28:21,437 {\an7}- How? 806 00:28:21,437 --> 00:28:24,942 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- I found your Snapchat on one of my friend’s Snapchat. 807 00:28:24,942 --> 00:28:29,513 {\an7}\hHe tagged you in a post, and I added you from there. 808 00:28:29,513 --> 00:28:31,645 {\an7}- Eight years ago? 809 00:28:31,645 --> 00:28:32,239 {\an7}- Yeah. 810 00:28:32,239 --> 00:28:34,041 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- So just a total random coincidence. 811 00:28:34,041 --> 00:28:35,876 {\an7}A friend of yours posted \h\h\habout her Snapchat, 812 00:28:35,876 --> 00:28:37,909 {\an7}and you saw it, and added her. 813 00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:39,711 {\an7}\h\h\h- Yeah. - As Anthony? 814 00:28:39,711 --> 00:28:40,810 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - How then is it possible 815 00:28:40,810 --> 00:28:46,579 {\an7}that six years later you would meet her childhood best friend 816 00:28:46,579 --> 00:28:47,777 {\an7}and end up going out with her? 817 00:28:47,777 --> 00:28:49,810 {\an7}- She posted Kia on her Snapchat, 818 00:28:49,810 --> 00:28:53,140 {\an7}and that’s...how I met Kia. 819 00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:55,437 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Wow. Okay, so you met Kia 820 00:28:55,437 --> 00:28:59,579 {\an7}\h\h\hbecause you had been catfishing her as Anthony. 821 00:28:59,579 --> 00:29:00,404 {\an7}- Yeah. 822 00:29:00,404 --> 00:29:01,579 {\an7}- So Kia doesn’t know 823 00:29:01,579 --> 00:29:03,645 {\an7}that you’ve weirdly been \h\h\h\hin a relationship 824 00:29:03,645 --> 00:29:06,140 {\an7}\hwith her best friend longer than you’ve been dating her, 825 00:29:06,140 --> 00:29:08,843 {\an7}and that you’ve still been \h\h\h\htalking to Victoria 826 00:29:08,843 --> 00:29:12,711 {\an7}\h\heven while you’ve been in a relationship with Kia? 827 00:29:12,711 --> 00:29:15,041 {\an7}- No. She doesn’t know. 828 00:29:15,041 --> 00:29:17,843 {\an7}- [laughs] Oh, my God. 829 00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:19,437 {\an7}This is crazy. 830 00:29:19,437 --> 00:29:21,744 {\an7}- [laughing] I’m sorry. 831 00:29:21,744 --> 00:29:22,810 {\an7}I’m in shock. 832 00:29:22,810 --> 00:29:23,810 {\an7}- This is [bleep] ridiculous. 833 00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:27,942 {\an7}- Okay, so do you actively have feelings for Victoria? 834 00:29:27,942 --> 00:29:29,480 {\an7}- In the beginning, yeah. 835 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,612 {\an7}But, you know, it never-- \h\hit never went there. 836 00:29:32,612 --> 00:29:34,140 {\an7}- But it did get sexual. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right. 837 00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:36,206 {\an7}- I mean, you did ask her \h\h\h\h\hfor titty pics. 838 00:29:36,206 --> 00:29:37,777 {\an7}- I mean, yeah. 839 00:29:37,777 --> 00:29:41,041 {\an7}- While in a relationship \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Kia. 840 00:29:41,041 --> 00:29:42,513 {\an7}Her best friend. 841 00:29:42,513 --> 00:29:44,909 {\an7}♪ ♪ 842 00:29:44,909 --> 00:29:47,041 {\an7}\h\hWhere’s Kia? - Right. [laughs] 843 00:29:47,041 --> 00:29:48,579 {\an7}- ’Cause I wanna call her. 844 00:29:48,579 --> 00:29:50,909 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughs] I’m sorry. This is crazy. 845 00:29:50,909 --> 00:29:51,876 {\an7}- It’s not that I don’t care. 846 00:29:51,876 --> 00:29:55,074 {\an7}I mean, but it is happening the way it’s happening, so. 847 00:29:55,074 --> 00:29:56,810 {\an7}- When you started dating Kia, 848 00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:59,876 {\an7}why didn’t you stop talking \h\h\h\hto her as Anthony? 849 00:29:59,876 --> 00:30:03,645 {\an7}- But when I really started \h\h\h\h\h\htalking to Kia, 850 00:30:03,645 --> 00:30:06,041 {\an7}me and Victoria, we weren’t having 851 00:30:06,041 --> 00:30:07,645 {\an7}that many conversations, \h\h\h\h\hso I was like, 852 00:30:07,645 --> 00:30:09,480 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know, maybe it’ll just die down. 853 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,909 {\an7}- But it-- \h\h- But-- 854 00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:11,975 {\an7}- It didn’t. \h\h\h- Yeah. 855 00:30:11,975 --> 00:30:15,041 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- And what about when you messaged the real Anthony 856 00:30:15,041 --> 00:30:15,843 {\an7}to scare him off? 857 00:30:15,843 --> 00:30:18,513 {\an7}What was that about? \h\h\h\h\h- I just-- 858 00:30:18,513 --> 00:30:19,612 {\an7}I don’t--I don’t know. 859 00:30:19,612 --> 00:30:21,777 {\an7}- Obviously you didn’t want us \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto be involved 860 00:30:21,777 --> 00:30:25,008 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbecause then that would blow up the truth. 861 00:30:25,008 --> 00:30:26,173 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah, I was hoping it--that--I-- 862 00:30:26,173 --> 00:30:28,546 {\an7}\hI really didn’t want it to go this way, you know? 863 00:30:28,546 --> 00:30:31,272 {\an7}- It’s giving you thought me \h\h\h\hand Kia were stupid. 864 00:30:31,272 --> 00:30:34,843 {\an7}- Well, I mean, I didn’t \hreally have to do much 865 00:30:34,843 --> 00:30:36,678 {\an7}for you to... 866 00:30:36,678 --> 00:30:38,074 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay. - Not do more to meet me 867 00:30:38,074 --> 00:30:39,744 {\an7}all this time. \h\h\h\h- Okay. 868 00:30:39,744 --> 00:30:42,140 {\an7}\h\h- So. - Mm-kay. 869 00:30:42,140 --> 00:30:43,810 {\an7}- If you really wanna go there, 870 00:30:43,810 --> 00:30:47,074 {\an7}you kinda are a little-- a little--a little dumb. 871 00:30:47,074 --> 00:30:49,173 {\an7}\h\h- Come on now, like, I’m thinking I’m talking 872 00:30:49,173 --> 00:30:50,579 {\an7}to a fine man. 873 00:30:50,579 --> 00:30:51,513 {\an7}Like, don’t do me. 874 00:30:51,513 --> 00:30:53,579 {\an7}\h\h\h- But instead it was a fine stud. 875 00:30:53,579 --> 00:30:54,777 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI mean... - Don’t do me. Don’t-- 876 00:30:54,777 --> 00:30:56,107 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- All right, but you know she’s not into-- 877 00:30:56,107 --> 00:30:58,008 {\an7}- You’re dating my friend, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike-- 878 00:30:58,008 --> 00:30:59,843 {\an7}- I’m sayin’--I’m just sayin’. 879 00:30:59,843 --> 00:31:02,645 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Well-- - At the end of the day-- 880 00:31:02,645 --> 00:31:05,612 {\an7}- Right, so you are attracted \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto Victoria? 881 00:31:05,612 --> 00:31:07,206 {\an7}- Yeah. \h- Oh. 882 00:31:07,206 --> 00:31:08,909 {\an7}- Oh. - Oh. 883 00:31:08,909 --> 00:31:10,513 {\an7}- Is that Kia? 884 00:31:10,513 --> 00:31:12,041 {\an7}- Yeah. [laughs] 885 00:31:12,041 --> 00:31:13,107 {\an7}- Hey, bitch. 886 00:31:13,107 --> 00:31:15,711 {\an7}- Hey, girl. \h\h\h- Hey. 887 00:31:15,711 --> 00:31:17,107 {\an7}- [indistinct] \h- Oh, my God. 888 00:31:17,107 --> 00:31:19,876 {\an7}- It’s been that long. \h- Oh, my God, right. 889 00:31:19,876 --> 00:31:20,975 {\an7}\h\h\h- Hey. - What’s up? 890 00:31:20,975 --> 00:31:21,876 {\an7}- Hi. - Hi. 891 00:31:21,876 --> 00:31:23,513 {\an7}\h\h\h- Sorry. - This is Nev, 892 00:31:23,513 --> 00:31:24,272 {\an7}and this is Kamie. 893 00:31:24,272 --> 00:31:26,107 {\an7}- Um, do you have any idea 894 00:31:26,107 --> 00:31:27,107 {\an7}what is going on right now? 895 00:31:27,107 --> 00:31:28,909 {\an7}- No, it’s cold as [bleep]. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay. 896 00:31:28,909 --> 00:31:31,206 {\an7}Well, I wish we could just say \h\h\h\h\hwe were here to visit 897 00:31:31,206 --> 00:31:33,272 {\an7}\h\h\h\hand say hello ’cause we’re in town, 898 00:31:33,272 --> 00:31:37,909 {\an7}but you know why we came to North Carolina, right? 899 00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:38,909 {\an7}\h\h’Cause... - Yeah, yeah. 900 00:31:38,909 --> 00:31:41,338 {\an7}- Victoria’s trying to figure out who this guy Anthony is. 901 00:31:41,338 --> 00:31:44,579 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hRight. Weirdly, that investigation, 902 00:31:44,579 --> 00:31:46,173 {\an7}if you will, led us here. 903 00:31:46,173 --> 00:31:48,744 {\an7}♪ ♪ 904 00:31:48,744 --> 00:31:49,843 {\an7}- Mm-hmm. 905 00:31:49,843 --> 00:31:51,777 {\an7}Take it away. 906 00:31:51,777 --> 00:31:53,678 {\an7}- What? 907 00:31:53,678 --> 00:31:55,272 {\an7}- I’m Anthony. 908 00:31:55,272 --> 00:31:57,579 {\an7}- How are you Anthony? 909 00:31:57,579 --> 00:31:59,107 {\an7}- Uh... 910 00:31:59,107 --> 00:32:00,107 {\an7}’cause I am. 911 00:32:00,107 --> 00:32:02,008 {\an7}I’m Anthony. 912 00:32:02,008 --> 00:32:04,041 {\an7}- For the last eight years? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm. 913 00:32:04,041 --> 00:32:05,744 {\an7}- How did you find Victoria? 914 00:32:05,744 --> 00:32:08,173 {\an7}How did you find me? 915 00:32:08,173 --> 00:32:09,909 {\an7}- Um... 916 00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:11,239 {\an7}Victoria, somebody posted her. 917 00:32:11,239 --> 00:32:14,173 {\an7}Somebody on my Snapchat \hposted her Snapchat. 918 00:32:14,173 --> 00:32:18,107 {\an7}Couple years down the line, \h\h\h\h\h\hshe posted you. 919 00:32:18,107 --> 00:32:20,272 {\an7}I added you as myself. 920 00:32:20,272 --> 00:32:23,305 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- And you just been not saying anything in my face, 921 00:32:23,305 --> 00:32:25,909 {\an7}still talking to Victoria, \hand haven’t mentioned it? 922 00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:28,239 {\an7}♪ ♪ 923 00:32:28,239 --> 00:32:29,645 {\an7}- [grunts] 924 00:32:29,645 --> 00:32:32,140 {\an7}♪ ♪ 925 00:32:32,140 --> 00:32:34,107 {\an7}\h\h- Well, bitch, we know who it is. 926 00:32:34,107 --> 00:32:36,008 {\an7}- Mm-hmm. 927 00:32:36,008 --> 00:32:37,107 {\an7}♪ ♪ 928 00:32:37,107 --> 00:32:38,975 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I’m, like, at a loss for words right now. 929 00:32:38,975 --> 00:32:41,404 {\an7}\hI’m sorry. - So are we. 930 00:32:42,744 --> 00:32:43,975 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- I don’t have nothing to say either. 931 00:32:43,975 --> 00:32:47,239 {\an7}- You don’t at least, like, \hwanna say sorry, like... 932 00:32:47,239 --> 00:32:50,041 {\an7}♪ ♪ 933 00:32:50,041 --> 00:32:52,305 {\an7}\h\hI’m not forcing you. You don’t have to, but-- 934 00:32:52,305 --> 00:32:54,404 {\an7}- No, yes. I know that. 935 00:32:54,404 --> 00:32:56,338 {\an7}- Oh, okay. 936 00:32:56,338 --> 00:32:57,744 {\an7}- I’m sorry, though. 937 00:32:57,744 --> 00:32:59,107 {\an7}- Keep it. 938 00:32:59,107 --> 00:33:01,107 {\an7}♪ ♪ 939 00:33:01,107 --> 00:33:02,041 {\an7}It’s always something. 940 00:33:02,041 --> 00:33:03,272 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh, this isn’t the first time? 941 00:33:03,272 --> 00:33:04,305 {\an7}- Oh, this is the first time, 942 00:33:04,305 --> 00:33:05,338 {\an7}but we’ve had other problems, 943 00:33:05,338 --> 00:33:06,975 {\an7}so it’s not the first time \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat, like, 944 00:33:06,975 --> 00:33:08,206 {\an7}I’ve had "stupid" \hon my forehead. 945 00:33:08,206 --> 00:33:11,744 {\an7}- It’s just ballsy. It’s crazy. \h\h\h- And don’t seem to care. 946 00:33:11,744 --> 00:33:14,678 {\an7}- I don’t know--I don’t know \h\h\h\h\h\h\hhow you’re even 947 00:33:14,678 --> 00:33:16,371 {\an7}looking your girlfriend \hin the eye right now 948 00:33:16,371 --> 00:33:19,008 {\an7}or her best friend, but you don’t seem 949 00:33:19,008 --> 00:33:19,876 {\an7}to be that worried. 950 00:33:19,876 --> 00:33:21,876 {\an7}- Uh, I didn’t mean for it \h\h\h\hto happen this way. 951 00:33:21,876 --> 00:33:24,371 {\an7}But it’s happening this way, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hso I’m-- 952 00:33:24,371 --> 00:33:27,173 {\an7}I’m kinda soaking it in like \h\heverybody else, you know? 953 00:33:27,173 --> 00:33:28,942 {\an7}- But you’ve known the truth \h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe whole time, 954 00:33:28,942 --> 00:33:31,272 {\an7}\h\h\hso, like, I think what’s surprising to us 955 00:33:31,272 --> 00:33:33,942 {\an7}is that you’re not making any effort to say, like, 956 00:33:33,942 --> 00:33:36,437 {\an7}"I’m really sorry" and, like, "This was super [bleep] up," 957 00:33:36,437 --> 00:33:40,008 {\an7}\h\h\hand, like, try to salvage either of these relationships. 958 00:33:40,008 --> 00:33:43,711 {\an7}Like, I don’t get the sense \h\h\hthat you’re trying to 959 00:33:43,711 --> 00:33:45,008 {\an7}or that you care to. 960 00:33:45,008 --> 00:33:48,041 {\an7}[tense music] 961 00:33:48,041 --> 00:33:52,107 {\an7}♪ ♪ 962 00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:56,459 - I think we should all go inside 963 00:33:56,526 --> 00:33:57,527 and try to have a conversation 964 00:33:57,594 --> 00:33:59,296 to resolve this somehow. 965 00:33:59,362 --> 00:34:00,831 All right. 966 00:34:00,897 --> 00:34:04,234 I think we all have a lot of thoughts and questions, 967 00:34:04,301 --> 00:34:06,536 and I just wanna make sure that all of you say 968 00:34:06,603 --> 00:34:08,872 whatever it is you feel you should say. 969 00:34:08,939 --> 00:34:10,640 - I feel like this isn't even, like, about me 970 00:34:10,707 --> 00:34:12,375 getting catfished anymore, like. 971 00:34:12,442 --> 00:34:13,743 I feel like how do you feel? 972 00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:15,278 Like, this is crazy. 973 00:34:15,345 --> 00:34:16,379 - It is [bleep] crazy. 974 00:34:16,446 --> 00:34:18,715 - Exactly. 975 00:34:18,782 --> 00:34:19,883 - I don't really have much 976 00:34:19,950 --> 00:34:22,385 that I really wanna say right now. 977 00:34:22,452 --> 00:34:25,589 I feel like I said what was necessary to say. 978 00:34:25,655 --> 00:34:26,857 I got my reaction. 979 00:34:26,923 --> 00:34:30,427 I'm not gonna sit here and be all like... 980 00:34:30,494 --> 00:34:31,561 super apologetic. 981 00:34:31,628 --> 00:34:35,232 I get it. Spotlight's on me, but... 982 00:34:35,298 --> 00:34:38,902 I wish it didn't have to happen this way. 983 00:34:38,969 --> 00:34:40,303 [laughs] Like-- - It didn't. 984 00:34:40,370 --> 00:34:42,072 - Everything is weird. - It didn't have to happen 985 00:34:42,138 --> 00:34:43,273 this way. 986 00:34:43,340 --> 00:34:44,674 There were plenty of good opportunities 987 00:34:44,741 --> 00:34:47,477 for you to make better decisions. 988 00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:49,112 - Yeah. 989 00:34:49,179 --> 00:34:50,313 - I'm sorry, I just don't-- I don't have no words 990 00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:52,482 right now. 991 00:34:52,549 --> 00:34:54,384 - Like, are you scared of losing my friend? 992 00:34:54,451 --> 00:34:56,820 - 'Cause you don't act like it. At all. 993 00:34:56,887 --> 00:34:59,189 - It's an intense moment right now. 994 00:34:59,256 --> 00:35:02,392 It seems like I'm treating it like it's miniscule, 995 00:35:02,425 --> 00:35:04,895 but I do care. 996 00:35:04,961 --> 00:35:07,197 I don't wanna lose you. 997 00:35:07,264 --> 00:35:09,733 - You have a really [bleep] weird way of showing it. 998 00:35:09,799 --> 00:35:13,503 - And then it took you mad long to be like, "I care about you." 999 00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:16,706 - It's not like I'm sitting here not expressing my feelings 1000 00:35:16,773 --> 00:35:19,409 and like you said, this is not about you. 1001 00:35:19,409 --> 00:35:22,479 - I mean, you catfished me, so that's why we're here. 1002 00:35:22,546 --> 00:35:24,181 - Like you said, you feel like this is not about that 1003 00:35:24,247 --> 00:35:26,850 no more, right? - I--but I wasn't saying that. 1004 00:35:26,917 --> 00:35:29,119 - So relax. - Okay. 1005 00:35:29,186 --> 00:35:31,788 - I'm so over it, like I'm just so fed up. 1006 00:35:31,855 --> 00:35:33,690 Like it's always something. 1007 00:35:33,757 --> 00:35:35,826 - Kia, what do you want? 1008 00:35:35,892 --> 00:35:37,994 Not just from Ashanti. 1009 00:35:38,061 --> 00:35:41,431 What do you want out of love in your life? 1010 00:35:41,498 --> 00:35:42,666 - Somebody that respects me. 1011 00:35:42,732 --> 00:35:44,668 [soft music] 1012 00:35:44,734 --> 00:35:46,303 And doesn't lie. 1013 00:35:46,436 --> 00:35:50,173 Someone that's gonna reciprocate what I give them. 1014 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:53,143 - Do you feel like you could do that? 1015 00:35:53,210 --> 00:35:55,278 - I do. 1016 00:35:55,378 --> 00:35:57,480 - I don't think so. 1017 00:35:57,547 --> 00:35:58,849 - But are you saying 1018 00:35:58,915 --> 00:36:00,083 that you don't wanna continue a relationship? 1019 00:36:00,150 --> 00:36:01,251 - Yeah, she doesn't have to worry about it. 1020 00:36:01,384 --> 00:36:02,819 I'll find it elsewhere. It's fine. 1021 00:36:02,886 --> 00:36:09,059 ♪ ♪ 1022 00:36:11,061 --> 00:36:12,295 - No words? - Next. 1023 00:36:12,395 --> 00:36:14,898 No, it's fine. 1024 00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:16,266 - And you just willing to accept that? 1025 00:36:16,399 --> 00:36:18,034 - Yeah, what am I supposed to say? 1026 00:36:18,101 --> 00:36:20,804 I mean, like, there's nothing else. 1027 00:36:20,871 --> 00:36:23,773 I'm not about to get down on my knees, I mean. 1028 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,408 - Ashanti, I don't know what to tell you. 1029 00:36:25,442 --> 00:36:28,645 A good woman does not come around every single day. 1030 00:36:28,712 --> 00:36:30,413 And so when you do find somebody 1031 00:36:30,447 --> 00:36:33,183 that is worth getting on your knees and begging for, 1032 00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:35,452 I'm not saying you have to physically do it, 1033 00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:37,454 but it is good to hear. 1034 00:36:37,521 --> 00:36:40,490 - I said what I had to say, and I don't know 1035 00:36:40,557 --> 00:36:43,493 if you guys need me to, like, change my tone. 1036 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,462 - You say exactly what you wanna say. 1037 00:36:45,529 --> 00:36:48,632 For you, Kia, whatever you have to say, 1038 00:36:48,698 --> 00:36:51,101 be intentional about what it is that you're saying 1039 00:36:51,168 --> 00:36:52,702 and stand behind the words that you're saying. 1040 00:36:52,769 --> 00:36:54,204 So if you're saying 1041 00:36:54,271 --> 00:36:55,772 "I don't wanna work things out with you. 1042 00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:58,508 This is done," mean that [bleep]. 1043 00:36:58,575 --> 00:36:59,743 But if you're saying, 1044 00:36:59,809 --> 00:37:01,711 "I need for you to tell me something 1045 00:37:01,778 --> 00:37:03,680 to make me stay," 1046 00:37:03,747 --> 00:37:05,982 then actually say that. 1047 00:37:06,049 --> 00:37:09,052 ♪ ♪ 1048 00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:10,487 - I'm not gonna keep going back and forth with her 1049 00:37:10,554 --> 00:37:13,390 about little [bleep] here and there, so this is done. 1050 00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:17,994 - But you mean that? 1051 00:37:19,930 --> 00:37:22,098 - Yes. 1052 00:37:25,402 --> 00:37:27,838 - And presumably, Victoria, you're not looking 1053 00:37:27,904 --> 00:37:29,005 to have any continued... 1054 00:37:29,072 --> 00:37:30,307 - Absolutely not. - [laughs] 1055 00:37:30,407 --> 00:37:31,775 You don't want her? - Mm-mm. 1056 00:37:31,842 --> 00:37:32,843 - She's on the market now. 1057 00:37:32,909 --> 00:37:34,678 - No. - Don't play. 1058 00:37:34,744 --> 00:37:36,513 Somebody gonna grab it up. 1059 00:37:36,580 --> 00:37:38,281 There's no need for y'all to be funny. 1060 00:37:38,415 --> 00:37:39,950 This--it already is what it is. 1061 00:37:40,016 --> 00:37:41,418 I understand y'all mad, but-- 1062 00:37:41,451 --> 00:37:43,720 - You was being funny for eight years. 1063 00:37:43,787 --> 00:37:46,122 - Yep. - Mm-hmm. 1064 00:37:46,189 --> 00:37:49,626 So I can be funny now. 1065 00:37:49,693 --> 00:37:50,827 Ha-ha. 1066 00:37:50,894 --> 00:37:52,562 - Well, I hope you're enjoying it. 1067 00:37:52,629 --> 00:37:55,065 - I am. Thank you. 1068 00:37:55,131 --> 00:37:57,601 - Ashanti, like, of all the people in the room 1069 00:37:57,667 --> 00:38:00,136 who should be willing to take a little bit of [bleep] 1070 00:38:00,203 --> 00:38:01,371 right now-- - And I am. 1071 00:38:01,404 --> 00:38:02,706 I--I am, though. - Yeah, well, yeah, 1072 00:38:02,772 --> 00:38:04,875 but even when someone tried to give you, like, 1073 00:38:04,941 --> 00:38:08,011 a little attitude, you, like, gave it back. 1074 00:38:08,078 --> 00:38:09,379 - Yeah, it's coming back. - And, like, 1075 00:38:09,379 --> 00:38:12,115 when you [bleep] up, you have to be willing 1076 00:38:12,182 --> 00:38:16,419 to sit and eat some [bleep] and not go tit for tat. 1077 00:38:16,486 --> 00:38:20,991 Like you have to just sit there and say, "You're right. 1078 00:38:21,057 --> 00:38:22,492 I'm sorry. You're right." 1079 00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:23,960 And it sucks, and it doesn't feel good-- 1080 00:38:24,027 --> 00:38:25,695 it shouldn't feel good. 1081 00:38:25,762 --> 00:38:28,431 But learning how to be humble and have some humility 1082 00:38:28,498 --> 00:38:33,403 in those moments will go a long way in getting forgiven. 1083 00:38:33,403 --> 00:38:35,038 - I hear everything that you guys are saying, 1084 00:38:35,105 --> 00:38:36,940 and I'm taking it into account. 1085 00:38:37,007 --> 00:38:38,975 Um... 1086 00:38:39,042 --> 00:38:41,845 ♪ ♪ 1087 00:38:41,912 --> 00:38:43,980 Yeah. - So okay. 1088 00:38:44,047 --> 00:38:45,115 I know you guys live together, 1089 00:38:45,182 --> 00:38:46,983 and things are awkward right now. 1090 00:38:47,050 --> 00:38:49,619 Why don't we take Kia and Victoria 1091 00:38:49,686 --> 00:38:52,589 so you can kinda keep catching up and chatting, 1092 00:38:52,656 --> 00:38:55,959 and we'll just say our goodbyes to Ashanti for the moment 1093 00:38:56,026 --> 00:38:57,460 if that's cool. 1094 00:38:57,527 --> 00:38:58,995 - That's fine. 1095 00:38:59,062 --> 00:39:01,698 Thank you. 1096 00:39:01,765 --> 00:39:03,767 - All right. 1097 00:39:03,834 --> 00:39:05,502 [indistinct] - All right. 1098 00:39:05,569 --> 00:39:07,771 - [bleep], here we are in the [bleep] cold again. 1099 00:39:07,838 --> 00:39:09,439 - Good to meet you. Good luck with everything. 1100 00:39:09,506 --> 00:39:10,841 - Likewise. 1101 00:39:10,907 --> 00:39:13,643 - Good to meet you. Good luck. 1102 00:39:13,710 --> 00:39:15,378 - Bye, Ashanti. 1103 00:39:15,412 --> 00:39:20,250 - ♪ I've had enough of playing victim ♪ 1104 00:39:20,383 --> 00:39:22,185 ♪ It's kinda tough ♪ 1105 00:39:22,252 --> 00:39:24,888 ♪ But I'm ready for big changes ♪ 1106 00:39:24,955 --> 00:39:27,023 - Man, did I not see that coming. 1107 00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:28,391 - And her reaction, I just-- 1108 00:39:28,425 --> 00:39:30,560 - Kia, are you-- you really feel like that's it? 1109 00:39:30,627 --> 00:39:31,761 You think you're done? 1110 00:39:31,828 --> 00:39:32,696 - I feel like we've gone through so much 1111 00:39:32,762 --> 00:39:33,930 that, like, at some point, 1112 00:39:33,997 --> 00:39:35,165 I have to put my foot down. - Right. 1113 00:39:35,232 --> 00:39:37,067 Well, I'm just happy you guys are cool. 1114 00:39:37,133 --> 00:39:38,802 - Of course. - My biggest worry was that-- 1115 00:39:38,869 --> 00:39:40,070 - It was gonna be me. - Yes. 1116 00:39:40,136 --> 00:39:41,404 - That is fricking beyond me. - [laughs] 1117 00:39:41,404 --> 00:39:43,073 - Well, we weren't that far off. 1118 00:39:43,139 --> 00:39:44,307 I mean-- - [laughs] 1119 00:39:44,407 --> 00:39:46,076 - Anyway, I'm glad we figured this out 1120 00:39:46,142 --> 00:39:47,711 and everyone can move on with their lives. 1121 00:39:47,777 --> 00:39:48,712 - ♪ Of playing victim ♪ 1122 00:39:48,778 --> 00:39:49,779 - Period. 1123 00:39:49,846 --> 00:39:50,881 - Who wants to get a milkshake? 1124 00:39:50,947 --> 00:39:52,582 [laughter] 1125 00:39:52,649 --> 00:39:58,088 - ♪ But I'm ready for big changes ♪ 1126 00:39:58,154 --> 00:39:59,556 - Hey! 1127 00:39:59,623 --> 00:40:02,359 - Hey! You're sideways. - You're sideways. 1128 00:40:02,359 --> 00:40:04,060 - There she is. - Hey, Queen. 1129 00:40:04,127 --> 00:40:06,563 - What's up? - Chilling, working. 1130 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:07,931 I just moved. 1131 00:40:07,998 --> 00:40:09,466 - Wait, you just got a new apartment? 1132 00:40:09,533 --> 00:40:12,369 - Yeah, I, uh, actually moved in with my, uh, boyfriend. 1133 00:40:12,435 --> 00:40:14,504 - What? - Boyfriend! 1134 00:40:14,571 --> 00:40:16,206 When did you meet this man? - Yeah. What? 1135 00:40:16,273 --> 00:40:18,408 - I've known him for, like, two years, 1136 00:40:18,475 --> 00:40:20,677 and we've just kinda been on and off. 1137 00:40:20,744 --> 00:40:22,445 - Mm-hmm. 1138 00:40:22,512 --> 00:40:24,648 - Yeah, we've just been pretty happy. 1139 00:40:24,714 --> 00:40:26,049 - That's so great. 1140 00:40:26,116 --> 00:40:27,517 - So it's safe to say that you and Ashanti 1141 00:40:27,584 --> 00:40:29,052 are not a thing? - Absolutely not. 1142 00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:31,188 - [laughs] - Her and Kia are, but-- 1143 00:40:31,254 --> 00:40:32,556 - Oh. - Oh, they're still together? 1144 00:40:32,622 --> 00:40:34,257 - Mm-hmm. - After all that [bleep]? 1145 00:40:34,391 --> 00:40:36,293 - Mm-hmm. - Okay. 1146 00:40:36,393 --> 00:40:38,595 Does that not make things awkward for you guys 1147 00:40:38,662 --> 00:40:40,397 and your friendship? - Not really. 1148 00:40:40,463 --> 00:40:42,699 I just carry on like as if she's not there. 1149 00:40:42,766 --> 00:40:44,534 - But at least you're so happy, I hope. 1150 00:40:44,601 --> 00:40:46,303 - Yeah, this is probably, like, the happiest I've been 1151 00:40:46,403 --> 00:40:47,971 in a really long time. 1152 00:40:48,038 --> 00:40:49,606 - Well, it's all thanks to us. 1153 00:40:49,673 --> 00:40:50,674 - Right. Agreed. 1154 00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:51,875 - [laughs] 1155 00:40:51,942 --> 00:40:53,710 - And, uh, best of luck with everything. 1156 00:40:53,777 --> 00:40:54,945 Stay safe, stay healthy, 1157 00:40:55,011 --> 00:40:56,346 and, uh, hopefully we'll see you soon. 1158 00:40:56,379 --> 00:40:57,347 - [laughs] - Bye, Victoria. 1159 00:40:57,347 --> 00:40:58,481 - Bye. - Bye. 1160 00:41:00,296 --> 00:41:03,362 {\an7}[upbeat music] 1161 00:41:03,362 --> 00:41:10,999 {\an7}♪ ♪ 1162 00:41:30,623 --> 00:41:32,359 {\an7}- He’s just different than \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hother guys. 1163 00:41:32,359 --> 00:41:33,887 {\an7}\hHe actually cares and listens to me. 1164 00:41:33,887 --> 00:41:37,392 {\an7}\h- All these catfish always be using fake phone numbers. 1165 00:41:37,392 --> 00:41:39,128 {\an7}I think it’s time for us \h\h\h\hto make our own. 1166 00:41:39,128 --> 00:41:39,821 {\an7}Text that number. 1167 00:41:39,821 --> 00:41:41,920 {\an7}- You’re catfishing \h\h\hthe catfish. 1168 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,623 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- Nev and Kamie are on the phone with me. 1169 00:41:43,623 --> 00:41:46,161 {\an7}Do you want to meet up?