1 00:00:02,135 --> 00:00:03,971 - ♪♪ MTV ♪♪ 2 00:00:04,037 --> 00:00:06,373 - Ivy has been talking to Dante... 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,909 - He's very respectful, gentle. 4 00:00:08,976 --> 00:00:10,444 Like, this is a great guy. 5 00:00:10,511 --> 00:00:12,412 - That's gotta be him. Definitely married with kids. 6 00:00:12,479 --> 00:00:14,381 - This is clearly taking 7 00:00:14,448 --> 00:00:16,183 a physical and emotional toll on you. 8 00:00:16,250 --> 00:00:20,587 - We gotta do whatever it takes to get this guy to show up. 9 00:00:20,654 --> 00:00:22,756 - Somebody's sitting there. - Makes me nervous. 10 00:00:22,823 --> 00:00:24,925 - Yo. - Dante? 11 00:00:24,992 --> 00:00:29,496 ♪♪ ♪♪ 12 00:00:29,563 --> 00:00:33,300 - Go to work. Gotta go to work. 13 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:36,170 Hi, John. 14 00:00:36,236 --> 00:00:37,371 - What is this? 15 00:00:37,437 --> 00:00:39,306 "Out of order, use other room." 16 00:00:39,373 --> 00:00:40,741 - What's in there? 17 00:00:40,807 --> 00:00:42,109 - Aah! 18 00:00:42,176 --> 00:00:45,279 all: Surprise! - [squeals] 19 00:00:45,345 --> 00:00:50,384 [applause] Oh, my gosh! 20 00:00:50,450 --> 00:00:54,121 - Oh, my God. This guy... 21 00:00:54,188 --> 00:00:55,455 - 200. - Wait, how'd you get Max? 22 00:00:55,522 --> 00:00:56,857 - 200. - Wow. 23 00:00:56,924 --> 00:00:58,091 - Aww. 24 00:00:58,158 --> 00:01:00,661 - Wait, did we just finish 200? 25 00:01:00,727 --> 00:01:02,763 - This is our 200th episode? - Oh, my God. 26 00:01:02,829 --> 00:01:04,998 - 200, wow. - I helped you get there. 27 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:06,533 You've--you finished it off. 28 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,701 - What's up, everybody? - Listen, you passed the torch. 29 00:01:07,768 --> 00:01:09,169 - That's right. - I appreciate it. 30 00:01:09,236 --> 00:01:10,804 - The torch was passed. - I can't believe you're here! 31 00:01:10,871 --> 00:01:12,472 - Wow, this is amazing. - Oh, my God, I'm so happy. 32 00:01:12,539 --> 00:01:14,575 Aww! - Here. 33 00:01:14,641 --> 00:01:16,810 I'm gonna--I'm gonna shoot this one shot, all right? 34 00:01:16,877 --> 00:01:18,145 - Yeah. - I got a great angle. 35 00:01:18,212 --> 00:01:19,847 - Wow. All right. 36 00:01:19,913 --> 00:01:21,148 - Should we all three-- all three blow. 37 00:01:21,215 --> 00:01:23,483 - Right. - All three blow. 38 00:01:23,550 --> 00:01:25,919 - All right! [cheers and applause] 39 00:01:28,789 --> 00:01:30,023 You gotta read the email with us. 40 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:31,358 - Yes, please! - You gotta read th-- 41 00:01:31,425 --> 00:01:32,659 [chuckles] - Oh, you have to. 42 00:01:32,726 --> 00:01:34,127 - I'll read the email with you guys. 43 00:01:34,194 --> 00:01:35,462 - Whoo! [applause] 44 00:01:35,529 --> 00:01:37,064 - Let's do it. - Yay! 45 00:01:37,130 --> 00:01:38,365 - [groans] 46 00:01:38,432 --> 00:01:40,501 - I feel like I've-- I've stayed the same 47 00:01:40,567 --> 00:01:41,835 and Nev has aged. 48 00:01:41,902 --> 00:01:43,770 - Well, I've had three kids. - That's true. 49 00:01:43,837 --> 00:01:46,340 - Let's get to the email. - Okay, let's do it. 50 00:01:46,406 --> 00:01:48,509 - All right. - Oh, here we go, Ivy. 51 00:01:48,575 --> 00:01:52,045 Subject, "I'm mad, I'm sad, and I'm hurt." 52 00:01:52,112 --> 00:01:53,680 "Dear Nev and Kamie..." 53 00:01:53,747 --> 00:01:54,882 - And Max. - And Max. 54 00:01:54,948 --> 00:01:56,383 "My name is Ivy." 55 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:57,818 - ♪♪ I just wanna hear you call my name ♪♪ 56 00:01:57,885 --> 00:02:00,487 - "I'm an aesthetician living in Dallas, Texas. 57 00:02:00,554 --> 00:02:02,289 And I'm in..." - Oh, boy. 58 00:02:02,356 --> 00:02:03,590 - "A pretty upsetting situation." 59 00:02:03,657 --> 00:02:04,858 See, he always used to read ahead, 60 00:02:04,925 --> 00:02:06,727 and I hate it. - No, I didn't read ahead. 61 00:02:06,793 --> 00:02:08,595 I just heard "Texas." - Oh, okay. Okay. 62 00:02:08,662 --> 00:02:10,898 - It's already a problem. - Oh, the Texas, okay. 63 00:02:10,964 --> 00:02:13,700 "A little over five years ago, I was on a dating app 64 00:02:13,767 --> 00:02:17,538 "when a man named Dante messaged me. 65 00:02:17,604 --> 00:02:19,406 "I responded and we clicked in a way 66 00:02:19,473 --> 00:02:22,142 that was both exciting and surprising." 67 00:02:22,209 --> 00:02:24,912 - ♪♪ Than I need you ♪♪ 68 00:02:24,978 --> 00:02:27,881 - "Dante is incredible. He's supportive, 69 00:02:27,948 --> 00:02:30,384 "understanding, and when we talk on the phone, 70 00:02:30,450 --> 00:02:32,953 "he's the absolute best listener. 71 00:02:33,020 --> 00:02:35,856 - Probably asleep. [both chuckle] 72 00:02:35,923 --> 00:02:37,491 - He just sits there and listens. 73 00:02:37,558 --> 00:02:39,326 - Right. - Right, for hours. 74 00:02:39,393 --> 00:02:41,595 "He knows me better than anyone else in the world. 75 00:02:41,662 --> 00:02:43,964 "I truly believed I'd found the guy 76 00:02:44,031 --> 00:02:46,166 "who was going to be with me forever. 77 00:02:46,233 --> 00:02:48,435 "Dante only lives four hours away from me 78 00:02:48,502 --> 00:02:49,803 "in Louisiana. 79 00:02:49,870 --> 00:02:51,605 "So I thought it would be easy for us to meet. 80 00:02:51,672 --> 00:02:54,474 "But somehow it's been five years of excuses 81 00:02:54,541 --> 00:02:56,977 "and no in-person visits. 82 00:02:57,044 --> 00:02:58,512 "Everyone says I should cut him off, 83 00:02:58,579 --> 00:03:00,247 "but I love him. I can't imagine 84 00:03:00,314 --> 00:03:01,682 my life without him." 85 00:03:01,748 --> 00:03:02,749 - ♪♪ I don't want to think about it ♪♪ 86 00:03:02,816 --> 00:03:04,284 ♪♪ I don't want to think ♪♪ 87 00:03:04,351 --> 00:03:07,354 - "He says he loves me. He talks about marrying me. 88 00:03:07,421 --> 00:03:09,323 So why is he doing this?" 89 00:03:09,389 --> 00:03:10,991 - ♪♪ I need you ♪♪ 90 00:03:11,058 --> 00:03:13,627 ♪♪ I need you to need me more ♪♪ 91 00:03:13,694 --> 00:03:15,729 - "He's breaking my heart and my spirit, 92 00:03:15,796 --> 00:03:18,665 "and I can't stop crying. 93 00:03:18,732 --> 00:03:22,836 "I need help. Please, please call me. 94 00:03:22,903 --> 00:03:24,638 Ivy." 95 00:03:24,705 --> 00:03:27,608 - This guy is not doing right by her. 96 00:03:27,674 --> 00:03:28,909 Well, she's an open wound right now. 97 00:03:28,976 --> 00:03:30,777 both: Yeah. - You guys need to suture it. 98 00:03:30,844 --> 00:03:32,880 - I know. We gotta call Ivy. 99 00:03:32,946 --> 00:03:34,448 She's been crying for [bleep] five years. 100 00:03:34,515 --> 00:03:35,482 - All right, I'm calling Ivy. 101 00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:36,583 [line trilling] 102 00:03:36,650 --> 00:03:38,018 Now you're here for the call, 103 00:03:38,085 --> 00:03:39,753 you might as well just come with us to Dallas too. 104 00:03:39,820 --> 00:03:41,188 - Yeah, might as well just come. 105 00:03:41,255 --> 00:03:42,689 - Guys, I'm out. - [laughs] 106 00:03:42,756 --> 00:03:44,124 - Hello? - Wait, oh, hello. 107 00:03:44,191 --> 00:03:46,093 Ivy? 108 00:03:47,961 --> 00:03:49,329 - Hey, well-- - Hey, queen. 109 00:03:49,396 --> 00:03:50,731 - It's Nev, the one and only. 110 00:03:50,797 --> 00:03:52,766 I'm here with Kamie... - Hey. 111 00:03:52,833 --> 00:03:56,036 - And we also have the OG silver fox himself. 112 00:03:56,103 --> 00:03:59,072 Max is also here right now. - Hi, Ivy. 113 00:04:01,842 --> 00:04:02,843 - Yeah. - That's right. 114 00:04:02,910 --> 00:04:04,611 - He's here to at least... 115 00:04:04,678 --> 00:04:05,679 - I'm moral support... - Meet you. 116 00:04:05,746 --> 00:04:06,980 - Right now. - Right, right. 117 00:04:07,047 --> 00:04:08,949 - I'm helping you guys get off to a good start. 118 00:04:11,752 --> 00:04:13,153 - We just finished reading your email. 119 00:04:13,220 --> 00:04:15,022 We want to help you. So sit tight, 120 00:04:15,088 --> 00:04:18,592 and, uh, we will fly to Dallas, and we'll figure this out. 121 00:04:20,761 --> 00:04:21,828 - You're welcome. - Of course. 122 00:04:21,895 --> 00:04:23,764 We'll see you soon, Ivy. - All right. 123 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:27,701 - Any wisdom to bestow upon us as we take this journey? 124 00:04:27,768 --> 00:04:30,103 - You got--you got this. I'm not worried about you. 125 00:04:30,170 --> 00:04:32,739 - [laughs] - I don't know about Nev. 126 00:04:32,806 --> 00:04:33,807 - You're missing out on an adventure. 127 00:04:33,874 --> 00:04:36,743 Let's go to Dallas. Let's go! 128 00:04:36,810 --> 00:04:38,545 - I'm going...to Silver Lake. - You can stay here. 129 00:04:38,612 --> 00:04:40,113 - Bye, guys. - See you soon. 130 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:44,251 - ♪♪ I'm black and blue for chasing after you ♪♪ 131 00:04:44,318 --> 00:04:46,386 ♪♪ Ooh ooh whoo ♪♪ 132 00:04:46,453 --> 00:04:47,754 ♪♪ Yes, I'm black and blue ♪♪ 133 00:04:47,821 --> 00:04:50,924 - Texas. - ♪♪ We're in Texas ♪♪ 134 00:04:50,991 --> 00:04:53,160 I'm excited to meet Ivy. - I am too, 135 00:04:53,227 --> 00:04:54,561 'cause I feel like she needs our help. 136 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:55,829 - She definitely does. 137 00:04:55,896 --> 00:04:58,899 - Five years, though. Jeez. 138 00:04:58,966 --> 00:05:00,834 Let's go! 139 00:05:03,036 --> 00:05:04,037 Ding-dong. 140 00:05:04,104 --> 00:05:06,106 - Ivy! - Hey, oh, my--hey, guys. 141 00:05:06,173 --> 00:05:08,675 Well, come in. - How are you? 142 00:05:08,742 --> 00:05:10,777 - Oh, my God. Hey, guys. 143 00:05:10,844 --> 00:05:12,913 - You are a very good hugger. - What's up? 144 00:05:12,980 --> 00:05:14,515 What's going on? Come on in. 145 00:05:14,581 --> 00:05:15,649 - Okay. - Come on. 146 00:05:15,716 --> 00:05:16,683 - How old are you, Ivy? 147 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:18,519 - [sighs] I'm thirty-sexy. 148 00:05:18,585 --> 00:05:20,487 - Period. - [laughs] 149 00:05:20,554 --> 00:05:21,722 - How long have you been in Dallas? 150 00:05:21,788 --> 00:05:24,157 - The majority of my life. 151 00:05:24,224 --> 00:05:26,560 - So you're an aesthetician. What else? 152 00:05:26,627 --> 00:05:28,428 - Culinarian. - Culinary. 153 00:05:28,495 --> 00:05:29,863 - Wow. - So cooking. 154 00:05:29,930 --> 00:05:31,498 My heart, I like to cater to people 155 00:05:31,565 --> 00:05:32,699 and make people feel welcome. 156 00:05:32,766 --> 00:05:34,935 And I'm a big giver. 157 00:05:35,002 --> 00:05:36,904 And one might say that's my downfall. 158 00:05:36,970 --> 00:05:38,639 - One might say that's your downfall, 159 00:05:38,705 --> 00:05:41,842 but many might say that's your strength. 160 00:05:41,909 --> 00:05:43,844 - Yeah. - Let's talk about Dante. 161 00:05:43,911 --> 00:05:48,115 - We met late 2016. 162 00:05:48,182 --> 00:05:50,117 It was a dating website. 163 00:05:50,184 --> 00:05:51,418 He messaged me. 164 00:05:51,485 --> 00:05:52,920 And--but then that following week, 165 00:05:52,986 --> 00:05:54,888 he was like, "Okay, let's exchange numbers." 166 00:05:54,955 --> 00:05:57,257 And he called me and we got to know one another. 167 00:05:57,324 --> 00:06:01,028 And within the next year, we just became closer. 168 00:06:01,094 --> 00:06:03,230 We talked on the phone at night. 169 00:06:03,297 --> 00:06:06,867 We learned about each other in various ways. 170 00:06:06,934 --> 00:06:09,937 Family, what we like, what we don't. 171 00:06:10,003 --> 00:06:12,773 He's very respectful, gentle, funny. 172 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,708 He's very calm. He doesn't get angry. 173 00:06:14,775 --> 00:06:16,710 He doesn't call me out my name. 174 00:06:16,777 --> 00:06:20,647 I can have a bad day, talk to him, cry. 175 00:06:20,714 --> 00:06:22,082 - Mm-hmm. 176 00:06:22,149 --> 00:06:23,283 - And that just kind of made me like, 177 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:25,953 "Wow, like, this is a great guy." 178 00:06:26,019 --> 00:06:27,621 It just got tough because I wanted 179 00:06:27,688 --> 00:06:29,790 to engage with him and see him. 180 00:06:29,857 --> 00:06:33,727 In 2018, I was in a bad car accident. 181 00:06:33,794 --> 00:06:35,929 And my car, like, it actually went up. 182 00:06:35,996 --> 00:06:37,831 It flipped over, like, 30 times. 183 00:06:37,898 --> 00:06:39,299 - Oh, my God. 184 00:06:39,366 --> 00:06:42,302 - And I didn't come to-- it was, like, three days maybe. 185 00:06:42,369 --> 00:06:44,905 But when I called him and I told him-- 186 00:06:44,972 --> 00:06:46,406 and he even made it, like, 187 00:06:46,473 --> 00:06:48,742 "Oh, I'ma come and see you and check on you." 188 00:06:48,809 --> 00:06:50,344 - But he didn't, obviously. - Right. 189 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:52,012 And I really needed him. 190 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:53,647 And it hurt me so much. 191 00:06:53,714 --> 00:06:56,416 - Well, what was his excuse for not showing up for that? 192 00:06:56,483 --> 00:06:57,618 - He was sick. 193 00:06:57,684 --> 00:07:00,821 It's--like, it's always an excuse. 194 00:07:00,888 --> 00:07:02,289 It's not fair. That's not cool. 195 00:07:02,356 --> 00:07:04,458 - Mm-hmm. - I've made plenty of attempts 196 00:07:04,525 --> 00:07:07,027 to, like, Zoom, and nothing. 197 00:07:07,094 --> 00:07:09,296 It just--it--it bothers me. - Yeah. 198 00:07:09,363 --> 00:07:11,732 After five years, it would bother me too. 199 00:07:11,798 --> 00:07:12,900 - Does he have social media? 200 00:07:12,966 --> 00:07:14,902 Anything? Instagram, Tik Tok, Twitter? 201 00:07:14,968 --> 00:07:16,570 Nothing? - He has Instagram. 202 00:07:16,637 --> 00:07:17,804 That he never told me about. 203 00:07:17,871 --> 00:07:19,606 - You looked him up. - I did. 204 00:07:19,673 --> 00:07:21,108 - Well, what does Dante look like? 205 00:07:21,175 --> 00:07:22,676 Can we see some pics? - Yeah. 206 00:07:22,743 --> 00:07:25,078 I'll come sit. [grunts] 207 00:07:25,145 --> 00:07:27,481 So here he is. - Dante. 208 00:07:27,548 --> 00:07:29,249 Okay. I see you, Ivy. 209 00:07:29,316 --> 00:07:31,518 - [laughs] You don't see me, just-- 210 00:07:31,585 --> 00:07:33,253 - Mm-hmm. - [laughs] 211 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,223 - Oh, he wrote you a poem. - Yeah, go ahead, read that. 212 00:07:36,290 --> 00:07:37,424 Go ahead. 213 00:07:37,491 --> 00:07:39,326 - "Ivy, you are my light in the morning, 214 00:07:39,393 --> 00:07:42,729 "my air under the sea, my courage in war. 215 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:44,831 "Desire of my love. 216 00:07:44,898 --> 00:07:47,701 Ivy, baby, you are my everything." 217 00:07:47,768 --> 00:07:49,036 Wow, just last week he said, 218 00:07:49,102 --> 00:07:51,071 "Ivy, you're more than just a girlfriend to me. 219 00:07:51,138 --> 00:07:53,941 "My lady is my soulmate. I love her always and forever. 220 00:07:54,007 --> 00:07:56,276 "She is my rock, my angel, my queen. 221 00:07:56,343 --> 00:07:58,879 "My lady is what makes my life so happy 222 00:07:58,946 --> 00:08:00,914 and worth living all the time." 223 00:08:00,981 --> 00:08:03,083 I am not sending the right text messages. 224 00:08:03,150 --> 00:08:04,484 - I was gonna say... - [laughs] 225 00:08:04,551 --> 00:08:06,520 - I gotta step up my game. 226 00:08:06,587 --> 00:08:08,155 Goddamn. 227 00:08:08,222 --> 00:08:09,923 Holy moly. 228 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:11,358 - I want somebody to write something about me. 229 00:08:11,425 --> 00:08:12,926 - So he really has a way with words. 230 00:08:12,993 --> 00:08:14,962 - Uh-huh. - Problem is, it's only words. 231 00:08:15,028 --> 00:08:18,465 - [sighs] Yeah, he does have his way. 232 00:08:18,532 --> 00:08:19,933 - Well, yeah, I mean, now I can see 233 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,936 how hard it is to go sort of between 234 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:25,105 words like that to then the disappointment 235 00:08:25,172 --> 00:08:26,540 of him not being able to show up. 236 00:08:26,607 --> 00:08:28,342 Like, he talks such a big game. 237 00:08:28,408 --> 00:08:32,346 - Mm-hmm. - But he doesn't show up. 238 00:08:32,412 --> 00:08:34,815 - It just leaves me like, "What's going on?" 239 00:08:34,882 --> 00:08:37,484 And I just want to get some answers. 240 00:08:37,551 --> 00:08:40,187 Because I don't deserve-- nobody deserves that. 241 00:08:40,254 --> 00:08:41,522 - Yeah. 242 00:08:41,588 --> 00:08:43,724 - But at the same time, for some odd reason, 243 00:08:43,790 --> 00:08:45,092 I care for him. 244 00:08:45,158 --> 00:08:47,628 And I guess I just been clinging to that hope. 245 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:51,899 And that's why I'm saying, like, that's not fair. 246 00:08:51,965 --> 00:08:53,166 It's not right. 247 00:08:53,233 --> 00:08:56,170 [sniffles] I'm sorry. 248 00:08:56,236 --> 00:08:58,405 - I think Dante should be sorry, 249 00:08:58,472 --> 00:09:02,109 because Dante is missing out on the real experience 250 00:09:02,176 --> 00:09:05,312 of having you in real life. 251 00:09:05,379 --> 00:09:07,080 Five years is a really long time 252 00:09:07,147 --> 00:09:08,882 to stay sweet and kind. 253 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:11,051 - Yeah, um-- - You just need 254 00:09:11,118 --> 00:09:12,419 something to change. 255 00:09:12,486 --> 00:09:13,987 You can't keep doing what you've been doing. 256 00:09:14,054 --> 00:09:15,255 - I can't. 257 00:09:15,322 --> 00:09:16,557 - So let us do some investigating 258 00:09:16,623 --> 00:09:19,326 this afternoon, and then we can all decide 259 00:09:19,393 --> 00:09:20,861 what we want to do as a group. 260 00:09:20,928 --> 00:09:22,095 - Thank you. 261 00:09:22,162 --> 00:09:24,131 - [sighs] - We got your back. 262 00:09:24,198 --> 00:09:25,799 - Hugs. I'm a hugger. 263 00:09:25,866 --> 00:09:28,435 - See you soon, girl. 264 00:09:28,502 --> 00:09:29,803 - Thank you. 265 00:09:29,870 --> 00:09:31,705 All right. - Ivy. 266 00:09:31,772 --> 00:09:33,674 We're gonna get you back. We gonna get you back right. 267 00:09:33,740 --> 00:09:36,944 - Get me back in the groove. - Come on, let's go. 268 00:09:37,010 --> 00:09:39,746 Ay-yi-yi. - Poor sugar. 269 00:09:39,813 --> 00:09:41,048 We have to help her. - Oh. 270 00:09:41,114 --> 00:09:44,451 Well, there's something really upsetting 271 00:09:44,518 --> 00:09:49,423 about someone who clearly is giving bogus excuses, 272 00:09:49,489 --> 00:09:51,992 leading you on, and then on top of it, 273 00:09:52,059 --> 00:09:53,727 keeping you... - Mm-hmm. 274 00:09:53,794 --> 00:09:55,762 - On this tight, short leash 275 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:58,098 with these big professions of love. 276 00:09:58,165 --> 00:10:00,234 - No. - He really keeps her... 277 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:02,069 - Yeah. - Right there. 278 00:10:02,135 --> 00:10:03,237 - Like, if you know you're never gonna show up, 279 00:10:03,303 --> 00:10:04,571 like, what are you actually doing? 280 00:10:04,638 --> 00:10:05,973 - That's what I mean, right? 281 00:10:06,039 --> 00:10:08,208 I mean, this is like modern day torture. 282 00:10:13,981 --> 00:10:15,249 - Da-da-da-da! 283 00:10:15,315 --> 00:10:17,117 - Look at this, a bench. - Wow. 284 00:10:17,184 --> 00:10:19,520 - We can finally sit as close as I've always wanted to. 285 00:10:19,586 --> 00:10:21,722 - Great. Let me move it over. 286 00:10:21,788 --> 00:10:24,525 - No, no, no, no. - [chuckles] 287 00:10:24,591 --> 00:10:26,093 - All right, so recap. 288 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:31,064 Ivy has been talking to Dante for five plus years. 289 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:33,033 They don't live that far away from each other. 290 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:36,003 But every time conversations about meeting up happen, 291 00:10:36,069 --> 00:10:37,404 Dante has an excuse. 292 00:10:37,471 --> 00:10:38,372 There's just always something. 293 00:10:38,438 --> 00:10:39,773 - Mm-hmm. 294 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,476 - So all pretty telltale signs of a catfish. 295 00:10:42,543 --> 00:10:45,078 The pictures of Dante might be the thing he's lying about. 296 00:10:45,145 --> 00:10:46,446 - Mm-hmm. 297 00:10:46,513 --> 00:10:47,748 - Or it could be something else. 298 00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:49,850 - What can't possibly be fabricated 299 00:10:49,917 --> 00:10:53,554 are his feelings for Ivy, because those poems? 300 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:55,489 - Right, so why don't we just dive in? 301 00:10:55,556 --> 00:10:57,491 And hopefully we got a little-- 302 00:10:57,558 --> 00:10:59,993 Yup, Ivy sent us some info. Oh, great. 303 00:11:00,060 --> 00:11:01,361 "Hey, Nev and Kamie. 304 00:11:01,428 --> 00:11:03,564 "I'm grateful to you guys for having my back. 305 00:11:03,630 --> 00:11:05,299 "This is the information I can share. 306 00:11:05,365 --> 00:11:08,302 His name is Dante Fair and he's 30." 307 00:11:08,368 --> 00:11:10,537 "His phone number is this. 308 00:11:10,604 --> 00:11:13,040 And then there's also an Instagram, Dante Fair. 309 00:11:13,106 --> 00:11:15,342 Apparently, "He lives in Monroe, Louisiana, 310 00:11:15,409 --> 00:11:17,044 "and works in a correctional facility 311 00:11:17,110 --> 00:11:18,078 "as a guard. 312 00:11:18,145 --> 00:11:20,280 "I attached the pics I have. 313 00:11:20,347 --> 00:11:23,016 XOXO, Ivy." 314 00:11:23,083 --> 00:11:24,484 All right. [claps] 315 00:11:26,553 --> 00:11:28,722 I'ma do a little Reiki. [laughs] 316 00:11:28,789 --> 00:11:30,457 - I don't know what kind of energy you got. 317 00:11:30,524 --> 00:11:31,658 Don't give me that. 318 00:11:31,725 --> 00:11:32,826 - All right, so we got the pics. 319 00:11:32,893 --> 00:11:34,661 Should we just start the classic... 320 00:11:34,728 --> 00:11:36,763 just see who this guy is? 321 00:11:36,830 --> 00:11:38,031 No. 322 00:11:38,098 --> 00:11:39,700 [suspenseful music] 323 00:11:39,766 --> 00:11:42,436 - Mm-mm. - No. All right. 324 00:11:42,503 --> 00:11:43,737 - Hmm. - No. 325 00:11:43,804 --> 00:11:46,006 This guy seems like his face would show up. 326 00:11:46,073 --> 00:11:47,674 Weird, right? - Hmm. 327 00:11:47,741 --> 00:11:49,309 - We're not getting any hits on the pictures. 328 00:11:49,376 --> 00:11:51,345 So I think we gotta move on. 329 00:11:51,411 --> 00:11:53,847 Let's just go to the Instagram for Dante. 330 00:11:53,914 --> 00:11:57,484 Okay. 250-ish followers. 331 00:11:57,551 --> 00:11:58,652 That's not that many. He's actually got 332 00:11:58,719 --> 00:12:00,220 a lot of pictures on here. - Yeah. 333 00:12:00,287 --> 00:12:02,089 - I mean, a lot. This goes way back. 334 00:12:02,155 --> 00:12:05,692 Jeez. The first post is from 2015. 335 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:06,860 Wait--which is, like, right-- 336 00:12:06,927 --> 00:12:10,330 sort of around the time they met. 337 00:12:10,397 --> 00:12:11,465 - Right. - I think they met in 20-- 338 00:12:11,532 --> 00:12:12,799 - 2016, yeah. 339 00:12:12,866 --> 00:12:13,967 - I'm just looking at the comments. 340 00:12:14,034 --> 00:12:15,569 Like, where is-- where are his friends? 341 00:12:15,636 --> 00:12:17,304 No one's saying really anything. 342 00:12:17,371 --> 00:12:18,405 - No comments? 343 00:12:18,472 --> 00:12:19,940 That's weird. - I know. 344 00:12:20,007 --> 00:12:21,808 - But interesting that the Instagram has 345 00:12:21,875 --> 00:12:23,977 so many pictures. - So what else--is that-- 346 00:12:24,044 --> 00:12:26,613 - Phone search. - Oh, phone search. 347 00:12:28,148 --> 00:12:31,485 Louisiana, Alexandria. Joe [bleep]. 348 00:12:31,552 --> 00:12:34,621 - We look up Joe [bleep] on Facebook. 349 00:12:34,688 --> 00:12:37,224 Try narrowing the search to Monroe, Louisiana. 350 00:12:37,291 --> 00:12:39,326 - Yeah, Monroe. Monroe. 351 00:12:39,393 --> 00:12:43,163 ♪♪ ♪♪ 352 00:12:43,230 --> 00:12:47,067 - Correctional officer. - Oh, my goodness. 353 00:12:47,134 --> 00:12:50,170 - But wait---no, no, no. No. - That's gotta be him. 354 00:12:50,237 --> 00:12:53,040 Ivy said Dante was a correctional officer. 355 00:12:55,475 --> 00:12:58,111 - Joe, sweetie, what's going on? 356 00:12:58,178 --> 00:13:00,581 - Definitely married with kids. - He's married. 357 00:13:00,647 --> 00:13:02,082 - I don't want to blow this guy's life up, 358 00:13:02,149 --> 00:13:05,118 but what are the odds? 359 00:13:05,185 --> 00:13:08,388 - Joseph? 360 00:13:08,455 --> 00:13:10,090 - I mean... 361 00:13:12,192 --> 00:13:13,427 - I'm going with Joseph [bleep], 362 00:13:13,493 --> 00:13:17,431 correctional officer for 500, Alex. 363 00:13:17,497 --> 00:13:20,400 - Wow. [groans] 364 00:13:20,467 --> 00:13:23,370 I mean, could this actually be him? 365 00:13:23,437 --> 00:13:25,372 Let's think here. 366 00:13:25,439 --> 00:13:27,908 The reality is whenever we don't find 367 00:13:27,975 --> 00:13:29,977 a person that we can point to... 368 00:13:30,043 --> 00:13:31,411 - Mm-hmm. - And say, "We think 369 00:13:31,478 --> 00:13:34,214 it's this person," we have to keep the option open 370 00:13:34,281 --> 00:13:37,384 that it could just be who they say they are. 371 00:13:37,451 --> 00:13:40,287 Is there a chance 372 00:13:40,354 --> 00:13:41,922 Dante is the guy in the pictures? 373 00:13:41,989 --> 00:13:43,657 - There's a chance only 'cause we haven't found 374 00:13:43,724 --> 00:13:44,892 the guy in the pictures. 375 00:13:44,958 --> 00:13:46,793 But then what is the problem? 376 00:13:46,860 --> 00:13:48,962 - Well, also, if it really is someone named Dante Fair 377 00:13:49,029 --> 00:13:50,464 and those are pictures of him, why doesn't he show up 378 00:13:50,531 --> 00:13:51,999 anywhere? - Right. 379 00:13:52,065 --> 00:13:53,333 And why doesn't his name come back 380 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,502 when you run his phone number? - Well, I can see 381 00:13:55,569 --> 00:13:57,137 why it's been so frustrating for her. 382 00:13:57,204 --> 00:14:00,307 Because even with all of our resources, 383 00:14:00,374 --> 00:14:01,675 we still can't... - Yeah. 384 00:14:01,742 --> 00:14:03,644 - Find any definitive information on this guy. 385 00:14:03,710 --> 00:14:05,245 - Yeah. The only difference is, 386 00:14:05,312 --> 00:14:06,780 we're not madly in love with him. 387 00:14:06,847 --> 00:14:08,982 So thank God for that. 388 00:14:09,049 --> 00:14:10,284 ♪♪ ♪♪ 389 00:14:15,956 --> 00:14:18,792 [tense music] 390 00:14:18,859 --> 00:14:22,996 ♪♪ ♪♪ 391 00:14:23,063 --> 00:14:24,898 - Hi. - Hi, you guys, come in. 392 00:14:24,965 --> 00:14:27,000 Have a seat. - All right. 393 00:14:27,067 --> 00:14:28,235 - Whoo. - Oof. 394 00:14:28,302 --> 00:14:29,837 - How are you feeling? - To be honest, 395 00:14:29,903 --> 00:14:31,305 I didn't get that much sleep. 396 00:14:31,371 --> 00:14:33,907 Just thinking about everything-- 397 00:14:33,974 --> 00:14:35,642 it sucks. - Well, look. 398 00:14:35,709 --> 00:14:37,244 We did discover some things. 399 00:14:37,311 --> 00:14:38,779 So we want to kind of just go through all of that with you. 400 00:14:38,846 --> 00:14:41,148 So we have some photos. 401 00:14:41,215 --> 00:14:43,417 And, um, we did an image search. 402 00:14:43,483 --> 00:14:45,686 But none of them came back with any results. 403 00:14:45,752 --> 00:14:47,321 So we kept going. 404 00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:48,622 Obviously, this is his Instagram. 405 00:14:48,689 --> 00:14:50,924 What we did notice is that there are likes 406 00:14:50,991 --> 00:14:53,227 on the photos, but there's no comments. 407 00:14:53,293 --> 00:14:55,429 That doesn't mean anything, but-- 408 00:14:55,495 --> 00:14:58,365 - It's weird. - So we ran the phone number. 409 00:14:58,432 --> 00:15:00,100 Now, here's where it gets kind of interesting. 410 00:15:00,167 --> 00:15:01,468 When we ran the phone number, 411 00:15:01,535 --> 00:15:04,238 it came back as Joe [bleep]. 412 00:15:04,304 --> 00:15:06,473 And we looked up Joe [bleep] and we found 413 00:15:06,540 --> 00:15:08,709 this Facebook page for a guy named Joe [bleep] 414 00:15:08,775 --> 00:15:10,644 from Monroe. 415 00:15:10,711 --> 00:15:11,979 And more interestingly, 416 00:15:12,045 --> 00:15:15,949 he's worked at Nebraska State Penitentiary. 417 00:15:16,016 --> 00:15:18,652 - As a correctional officer... - As a correctional officer. 418 00:15:18,719 --> 00:15:23,657 - Which matches what Dante told you. 419 00:15:23,724 --> 00:15:25,692 - Hmm. 420 00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:28,295 Clear--I mean, like, I-- 421 00:15:28,362 --> 00:15:30,063 - But definitely married with kids. 422 00:15:30,130 --> 00:15:32,032 - [groans] Okay. 423 00:15:32,099 --> 00:15:33,200 The [bleep]? 424 00:15:33,267 --> 00:15:35,636 Like, I've been honest with you. 425 00:15:35,702 --> 00:15:37,104 - Right. - That--that--that's wrong. 426 00:15:37,171 --> 00:15:38,805 - That's what we found. 427 00:15:38,872 --> 00:15:40,641 So if we use what we do know, 428 00:15:40,707 --> 00:15:42,576 he's avoided meeting up with you. 429 00:15:42,643 --> 00:15:45,145 When you press him on FaceTiming or meeting, 430 00:15:45,212 --> 00:15:47,648 he gets defensive or ghosts you. 431 00:15:47,714 --> 00:15:50,317 Those are indications that he's hiding something. 432 00:15:50,384 --> 00:15:51,485 Now, that might just be 433 00:15:51,552 --> 00:15:53,320 that he's not the guy in the pictures. 434 00:15:53,387 --> 00:15:55,088 Or it might be that he's in a relationship. 435 00:15:55,155 --> 00:15:56,323 We don't know. 436 00:15:56,390 --> 00:15:57,658 But there's definitely something 437 00:15:57,724 --> 00:16:00,260 that he's intentionally deceived you about. 438 00:16:00,327 --> 00:16:03,530 - Like, why lie to me and play with my emotions? 439 00:16:03,597 --> 00:16:06,233 Why? That's--that's not fair. 440 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:08,402 - Mm-hmm. - Well, then it seems to me, 441 00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:11,738 the most direct path to the truth 442 00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:14,341 is just straight to Dante. - Okay. 443 00:16:14,408 --> 00:16:16,543 We just gotta do it. 444 00:16:16,610 --> 00:16:17,811 - All right, let's send him a text too. 445 00:16:17,878 --> 00:16:22,983 "Hey, Dante. Nev from the show 'Catfish.' 446 00:16:23,050 --> 00:16:25,953 "I'm actually with Ivy. 447 00:16:26,019 --> 00:16:32,159 "She is not willing to keep on waiting for you 448 00:16:32,226 --> 00:16:36,530 if you can't show up for her." 449 00:16:36,597 --> 00:16:39,032 So, hopefully, we'll hear back from him. 450 00:16:39,099 --> 00:16:41,034 - Right. - And we'll suggest 451 00:16:41,101 --> 00:16:44,171 that he can either come here to meet us here if he's-- 452 00:16:44,238 --> 00:16:45,672 if that--if that's what he'd prefer, 453 00:16:45,739 --> 00:16:48,175 or we can go meet him wherever he is. 454 00:16:48,242 --> 00:16:49,843 But whatever we're gonna do, 455 00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:51,178 we're gonna-- we're gonna make it happen. 456 00:16:51,245 --> 00:16:52,713 - I really appreciate it. 457 00:16:52,779 --> 00:16:54,848 I'm tired of crying. I've been crying, like-- 458 00:16:54,915 --> 00:16:57,484 [chuckles] 459 00:16:57,551 --> 00:16:58,852 - Okay. - Thank you. 460 00:16:58,919 --> 00:17:00,687 - Oh, hey. 461 00:17:02,422 --> 00:17:05,292 - And thank you. - Of course. 462 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,660 - We'll talk to you later. 463 00:17:06,727 --> 00:17:07,961 All right, let us know if you hear anything. 464 00:17:08,028 --> 00:17:10,130 - See you. - Thank you. 465 00:17:10,197 --> 00:17:12,866 - Oh, Ivy. - [sighs] 466 00:17:12,933 --> 00:17:14,301 - What do you think's gonna happen? 467 00:17:14,368 --> 00:17:15,802 - I have no idea. 468 00:17:15,869 --> 00:17:17,871 He's had five years to come forward. 469 00:17:17,938 --> 00:17:19,573 Why would he come forward now? 470 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,009 - I think we gotta do whatever it takes 471 00:17:22,075 --> 00:17:24,344 to get this guy to show up. 472 00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:27,347 [tense music] 473 00:17:27,414 --> 00:17:29,016 ♪♪ ♪♪ 474 00:17:29,082 --> 00:17:32,085 It's been, like... - Forever. 475 00:17:32,152 --> 00:17:35,455 - Hours. And from what I can see... 476 00:17:35,522 --> 00:17:36,790 - Nothing. - Nothing. 477 00:17:36,857 --> 00:17:38,792 - I wonder if Ivy heard anything, though. 478 00:17:38,859 --> 00:17:40,027 - Let's see. 479 00:17:40,093 --> 00:17:43,230 [line trilling] 480 00:17:46,033 --> 00:17:47,167 - Ivy? 481 00:17:47,868 --> 00:17:49,169 - We haven't heard anything back. 482 00:17:49,236 --> 00:17:50,337 Have you heard anything? 483 00:17:51,538 --> 00:17:53,607 - Oh, so did he call or did he text? 484 00:17:54,441 --> 00:17:56,476 - And did he mention getting my text message? 485 00:17:58,645 --> 00:17:59,680 - Okay. 486 00:18:01,982 --> 00:18:03,717 - He's coming! 487 00:18:06,687 --> 00:18:08,322 - Sit down. - He's coming. 488 00:18:08,388 --> 00:18:10,557 - No, he's not. - Wait, he's coming here? 489 00:18:12,726 --> 00:18:14,194 - To Dallas? 490 00:18:14,261 --> 00:18:15,629 - Okay, well, great. 491 00:18:15,696 --> 00:18:17,164 So first of all, good job. 492 00:18:17,231 --> 00:18:18,398 I'll try and connect with him 493 00:18:18,465 --> 00:18:21,034 and just confirm timing and details. 494 00:18:21,101 --> 00:18:23,170 But, um, hopefully it works out 495 00:18:23,237 --> 00:18:26,406 and tomorrow is the big day. 496 00:18:27,474 --> 00:18:28,842 - All right, bye. - Bye, Ivy. 497 00:18:28,909 --> 00:18:30,644 - [sighs] Something feels a little... 498 00:18:30,711 --> 00:18:32,579 - Everything is off. - Too easy. 499 00:18:32,646 --> 00:18:33,914 - And you guys are way too excited. 500 00:18:33,981 --> 00:18:35,516 - You know, a big deal? - After five years, 501 00:18:35,582 --> 00:18:37,150 he's gonna come because we're here? 502 00:18:37,217 --> 00:18:39,553 - [sighs] I mean... 503 00:18:39,620 --> 00:18:41,688 I would love to have heard that conversation. 504 00:18:41,755 --> 00:18:44,091 It does sound, like, too clean. 505 00:18:44,157 --> 00:18:45,826 "Oh, yeah, I'll just drive to Dallas tomorrow 506 00:18:45,893 --> 00:18:48,161 to meet you." - "Oh, yeah, see you tomorrow. 507 00:18:48,228 --> 00:18:50,964 Love you, bye." There's no way. 508 00:18:51,031 --> 00:18:52,366 And when he doesn't show, 509 00:18:52,432 --> 00:18:54,301 Ivy is going to be devastated. 510 00:19:00,774 --> 00:19:01,909 - Hello. - Hey. 511 00:19:01,975 --> 00:19:03,844 - Good morning. - Morning. 512 00:19:03,911 --> 00:19:06,013 You kind of called it. - He's not coming. 513 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:07,781 - Well, hasn't responded to the texts. 514 00:19:07,848 --> 00:19:11,084 I'm starting to feel like... - Mm-hmm. 515 00:19:11,151 --> 00:19:12,753 - That excitement I had yesterday 516 00:19:12,819 --> 00:19:15,255 that he said he was coming is gone. 517 00:19:15,322 --> 00:19:17,157 - Well, now we know how Ivy feels. 518 00:19:17,224 --> 00:19:18,458 - Well, let's head over there. 519 00:19:18,525 --> 00:19:19,493 Maybe she's heard from him. 520 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,362 [tense music] 521 00:19:22,429 --> 00:19:25,432 - This is not good. - All right. 522 00:19:25,499 --> 00:19:26,733 - Here we go. 523 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,271 ♪♪ ♪♪ 524 00:19:31,338 --> 00:19:32,606 - Hey, girlfriend. - Come in, hi. 525 00:19:32,673 --> 00:19:33,841 - Hey. - Hey. 526 00:19:33,907 --> 00:19:36,343 Come in. Make yourselves at home. 527 00:19:36,410 --> 00:19:39,046 - Oh, you guys are in your black outfits. 528 00:19:39,112 --> 00:19:41,048 - Yes. - Matching hoodies. 529 00:19:41,114 --> 00:19:42,382 We haven't heard from him, 530 00:19:42,449 --> 00:19:44,651 and you haven't heard from him today, right? 531 00:19:44,718 --> 00:19:47,154 - Correct. This is like... 532 00:19:47,221 --> 00:19:48,755 the story of my life with him. 533 00:19:48,822 --> 00:19:50,657 Like, when it gets to that point 534 00:19:50,724 --> 00:19:52,960 of connecting and meeting, 535 00:19:53,026 --> 00:19:55,128 it's just, like, he'll ghost me. 536 00:19:55,195 --> 00:19:56,730 - Mm-hmm. - Are you okay? 537 00:19:56,797 --> 00:19:58,232 You seem a little, like, jittery. 538 00:19:58,298 --> 00:20:00,100 - I've just-- I've been crying. 539 00:20:00,167 --> 00:20:01,802 And it's just-- it's emotional for me. 540 00:20:01,869 --> 00:20:04,805 - This is, like, clearly taking 541 00:20:04,872 --> 00:20:07,307 a physical and emotional toll on you. 542 00:20:07,374 --> 00:20:09,343 And at some point, like, you gotta know 543 00:20:09,409 --> 00:20:10,511 when to get off. 544 00:20:10,577 --> 00:20:12,713 - I'm becoming an emotional wreck. 545 00:20:12,779 --> 00:20:14,081 - I feel like at this point, 546 00:20:14,147 --> 00:20:16,316 we gotta just get him on the phone 547 00:20:16,383 --> 00:20:18,719 and see what he is or isn't actually doing. 548 00:20:18,785 --> 00:20:20,420 - Right. 549 00:20:20,487 --> 00:20:22,623 - I mean, let's--come on, let's just see if he'll answer. 550 00:20:22,689 --> 00:20:24,958 [line trilling] 551 00:20:25,025 --> 00:20:26,326 - Your call has been forwarded 552 00:20:26,393 --> 00:20:28,495 to an automatic voice message system. 553 00:20:28,562 --> 00:20:29,596 [phone beeps] 554 00:20:29,663 --> 00:20:31,732 - Hey, Dante, Nev here. 555 00:20:31,798 --> 00:20:33,066 I know you had told Ivy 556 00:20:33,133 --> 00:20:36,069 you were coming to see her today. 557 00:20:36,136 --> 00:20:37,704 Uh, but we haven't heard from you. 558 00:20:37,771 --> 00:20:39,907 So please give me a call back 559 00:20:39,973 --> 00:20:42,476 so we can figure this out. Thanks. 560 00:20:42,543 --> 00:20:44,511 - There are some people who hurt you by accident. 561 00:20:44,578 --> 00:20:46,146 And they-- they don't mean to hurt you. 562 00:20:46,213 --> 00:20:48,282 But then there are people who are hurting you on purpose. 563 00:20:48,348 --> 00:20:49,616 Dante is somebody 564 00:20:49,683 --> 00:20:51,685 who is continuously hurting you on purpose, 565 00:20:51,752 --> 00:20:53,720 in my opinion. 566 00:20:53,787 --> 00:20:55,155 [phone chimes] - Oh! 567 00:20:55,222 --> 00:20:56,857 Oh, whoa, we got a response. 568 00:21:02,062 --> 00:21:03,664 - What? - "Would it help 569 00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:06,633 if we came to you then?" 570 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:08,202 Oh, he's typing again. 571 00:21:11,905 --> 00:21:13,273 - Okay. 572 00:21:13,340 --> 00:21:15,075 - And, look, I don't want to drive all the way there 573 00:21:15,142 --> 00:21:16,443 for nothing, but-- 574 00:21:16,510 --> 00:21:18,111 - We're sitting here for nothing too. 575 00:21:18,178 --> 00:21:20,280 - It's a little crazy, and it's big risk, 576 00:21:20,347 --> 00:21:24,017 but it's probably our only option. 577 00:21:24,084 --> 00:21:25,853 - It's just, will he show up? 578 00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:28,422 - Ah, so I'm gonna say, "We're going to leave soon... 579 00:21:35,863 --> 00:21:37,064 Okay. 580 00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:38,632 - We gotta try. We gotta go for it. 581 00:21:38,699 --> 00:21:39,833 All right? - Absolutely. 582 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:41,602 Sounds like a plan. 583 00:21:41,668 --> 00:21:43,871 - Not much of a plan, but it's the best we can do. 584 00:21:43,937 --> 00:21:46,106 All right, so pack a bag, 585 00:21:46,173 --> 00:21:47,441 and let's keep it positive, all right? 586 00:21:47,508 --> 00:21:49,409 - I will. - We're gonna figure this out. 587 00:21:49,476 --> 00:21:51,211 [upbeat music] 588 00:21:51,278 --> 00:21:55,449 - ♪♪ This is the oldest that we've ever been ♪♪ 589 00:21:55,516 --> 00:21:58,418 ♪♪ This is the youngest that we're ever gonna be ♪♪ 590 00:21:58,485 --> 00:22:01,321 - Even if we drive four hours just to come back 591 00:22:01,388 --> 00:22:03,156 to be exactly where we started, 592 00:22:03,223 --> 00:22:04,725 that's the journey you need to take 593 00:22:04,791 --> 00:22:06,627 just to get back to you, 594 00:22:06,693 --> 00:22:09,096 and to feel whole and finished with this. 595 00:22:09,162 --> 00:22:10,931 - It'll be a different version of me... 596 00:22:10,998 --> 00:22:12,566 - Right. - But a better version. 597 00:22:12,633 --> 00:22:16,069 - ♪♪ This is the youngest that we're ever gonna be ♪♪ 598 00:22:16,136 --> 00:22:19,740 ♪♪ This is the youngest that we're ever gonna be ♪♪ 599 00:22:19,806 --> 00:22:21,008 - Look at that. West Monroe. 600 00:22:21,074 --> 00:22:22,743 West Monroe, look at that. - West Monroe. 601 00:22:22,809 --> 00:22:26,346 - All right. 602 00:22:26,413 --> 00:22:30,284 Well, here we are. - We're here. 603 00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:31,818 - All right, I'm gonna tell him we're here. 604 00:22:31,885 --> 00:22:34,087 Okay, "We just arrived at our hotel in West Monroe. 605 00:22:34,154 --> 00:22:35,155 "It's already a little late, so let's just plan 606 00:22:35,222 --> 00:22:36,657 "on meeting up tomorrow morning. 607 00:22:36,723 --> 00:22:38,392 "Please give us a heads up soon 608 00:22:38,458 --> 00:22:42,296 about a time and place that works for you." 609 00:22:42,362 --> 00:22:44,364 - All right. - All right. 610 00:22:44,431 --> 00:22:46,200 - All right. - Well, we're trying, so-- 611 00:22:46,266 --> 00:22:49,236 - Well, we'll-- we'll figure something out. 612 00:22:50,871 --> 00:22:53,040 [tense music] 613 00:22:53,106 --> 00:22:55,175 Twelve hours later... 614 00:22:55,242 --> 00:22:56,443 - [chuckles] Nothing. 615 00:22:56,510 --> 00:22:57,678 - And nothing! - I'm assuming. 616 00:22:57,744 --> 00:23:00,414 I knew it. - The guy hasn't responded. 617 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,950 - A waste of time. 618 00:23:03,016 --> 00:23:04,284 - Should I text him again? 619 00:23:04,351 --> 00:23:06,119 - Should we see if Ivy heard anything? 620 00:23:06,186 --> 00:23:08,155 [knock at door] - Oh, there she is. 621 00:23:08,222 --> 00:23:09,323 - Come on in. - Hey, girl. 622 00:23:09,389 --> 00:23:11,024 - Hey. What's going on? 623 00:23:11,091 --> 00:23:12,292 - Good morning. 624 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,495 - Good morning, morning, morning. 625 00:23:15,562 --> 00:23:17,130 How's it going? [phone chimes] 626 00:23:17,197 --> 00:23:18,899 - Hold on a second. - Is that-- 627 00:23:18,966 --> 00:23:20,234 - That's him. He says, 628 00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:23,036 "Okay, it thought about it a lot. 629 00:23:23,103 --> 00:23:26,607 "I'm afraid, but I'll do this. 630 00:23:26,673 --> 00:23:28,809 "Y'all can meet me at Kiroli Park. 631 00:23:28,876 --> 00:23:30,110 I'll be over at shelter one." 632 00:23:30,177 --> 00:23:33,080 - Okay. - "See you there." 633 00:23:33,146 --> 00:23:34,181 [notification chimes] 634 00:23:34,248 --> 00:23:36,149 All right, well, are you ready? 635 00:23:36,216 --> 00:23:38,619 - Let's do this. 636 00:23:38,685 --> 00:23:39,786 - Five years. 637 00:23:39,853 --> 00:23:41,955 - The closer and closer I get, 638 00:23:42,022 --> 00:23:44,525 I'm...I'm nervous. 639 00:23:44,591 --> 00:23:46,560 [dramatic music] 640 00:23:46,627 --> 00:23:49,663 - Getting close, now. 641 00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:52,299 Oh, yeah, this is it. 642 00:23:52,366 --> 00:23:54,902 There's a guy in his car. 643 00:23:54,968 --> 00:23:56,436 - There's somebody sitting there. 644 00:23:56,503 --> 00:23:57,638 - You see someone? Ooh. 645 00:23:57,704 --> 00:23:58,672 - Where do you see somebody? 646 00:23:58,739 --> 00:24:00,874 - [gasps] - Over there. 647 00:24:00,941 --> 00:24:02,442 Yeah. Who is that? 648 00:24:02,509 --> 00:24:05,312 Is that shelter one? I don't know. 649 00:24:05,379 --> 00:24:08,815 - It's the only person there. 650 00:24:08,882 --> 00:24:11,151 - That does seem like it could be 651 00:24:11,218 --> 00:24:12,920 someone waiting for us. 652 00:24:12,986 --> 00:24:14,688 - That makes me nervous. 653 00:24:14,755 --> 00:24:16,223 - Okay, well... 654 00:24:16,290 --> 00:24:18,325 - Let's just get this over with. 655 00:24:18,392 --> 00:24:20,360 - Leave everything on the table. 656 00:24:20,427 --> 00:24:24,131 - Okay. - All right, let's go. 657 00:24:24,198 --> 00:24:31,305 ♪♪ ♪♪ 658 00:24:32,506 --> 00:24:33,974 - Ivy leading the pack. I like this. 659 00:24:34,041 --> 00:24:35,876 - Yeah, she's just-- 660 00:24:35,943 --> 00:24:37,110 - [whispering] Go, Ivy! 661 00:24:37,177 --> 00:24:39,112 You go, girl! 662 00:24:39,179 --> 00:24:46,320 ♪♪ ♪♪ 663 00:24:50,190 --> 00:24:52,726 - Um, Dante? 664 00:25:01,468 --> 00:25:04,304 [dramatic music] 665 00:25:04,371 --> 00:25:09,009 ♪♪ ♪♪ 666 00:25:09,076 --> 00:25:11,011 - Um, Dante? 667 00:25:23,357 --> 00:25:27,928 - Obviously you're not the guy in the photos. 668 00:25:27,995 --> 00:25:29,730 - Yeah. 669 00:25:31,899 --> 00:25:33,700 - Well, I'm glad that you t--took the time out 670 00:25:33,767 --> 00:25:35,569 to see me. Like, what took so long 671 00:25:35,636 --> 00:25:37,671 after all this time? 672 00:25:41,241 --> 00:25:44,578 I've been Ivy. You could have just been Dante. 673 00:25:55,389 --> 00:25:57,791 - Everything I told you, like, feelings, everything, 674 00:25:57,858 --> 00:25:59,426 none of that was fake. None of it. 675 00:25:59,493 --> 00:26:02,329 - Except the pictures. - Yes. 676 00:26:02,396 --> 00:26:05,299 [somber music] 677 00:26:05,365 --> 00:26:07,000 ♪♪ ♪♪ 678 00:26:07,067 --> 00:26:08,535 [grunts] 679 00:26:08,602 --> 00:26:10,737 - I just can't-- I need a minute. 680 00:26:10,804 --> 00:26:12,773 [sniffles] 681 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,712 ♪♪ ♪♪ 682 00:26:18,779 --> 00:26:21,248 [crying] - Really proud of you. 683 00:26:21,315 --> 00:26:24,818 ♪♪ ♪♪ 684 00:26:24,885 --> 00:26:26,854 What are you thinking? 685 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,590 - I just don't understand. I just-- 686 00:26:29,656 --> 00:26:31,792 You could have just been yourself. 687 00:26:31,859 --> 00:26:34,595 ♪♪ ♪♪ 688 00:26:34,661 --> 00:26:37,130 I didn't have to do this. 689 00:26:37,197 --> 00:26:40,033 ♪♪ ♪♪ 690 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:41,401 - Nev. - Nice to meet you. 691 00:26:41,468 --> 00:26:42,669 - Dante? - Yes. 692 00:26:42,736 --> 00:26:45,005 - That's your name or-- 693 00:26:45,072 --> 00:26:46,707 - Yeah, that's the name I go by. 694 00:26:46,773 --> 00:26:47,674 - That's what people call you? 695 00:26:47,741 --> 00:26:49,009 - Yeah. - Okay. 696 00:26:49,076 --> 00:26:51,979 Um, well, thanks for meeting up with us. 697 00:26:52,045 --> 00:26:54,248 I think... 698 00:26:54,314 --> 00:26:55,816 it was the right move. 699 00:26:55,883 --> 00:26:57,017 Uh, even if it feels 700 00:26:57,084 --> 00:26:58,519 a little uncomfortable right now. 701 00:26:58,585 --> 00:27:00,787 - [sighs] 702 00:27:05,859 --> 00:27:07,961 - And is it fair to say that-- 703 00:27:08,028 --> 00:27:09,496 or the only thing you really lied about 704 00:27:09,563 --> 00:27:13,200 was the pictures? - Yeah. 705 00:27:13,267 --> 00:27:15,068 - You're a correctional officer. 706 00:27:15,135 --> 00:27:17,204 You're 30, I think? - Yeah. 707 00:27:17,271 --> 00:27:18,505 - That's right, okay. - Yeah. 708 00:27:18,572 --> 00:27:20,274 - And you, I think, mentioned a second ago 709 00:27:20,340 --> 00:27:22,509 that most of what you've told her is true. 710 00:27:22,576 --> 00:27:24,044 - Yes. - About, I guess, your-- 711 00:27:24,111 --> 00:27:26,146 your personal life. - And feelings and everything. 712 00:27:26,213 --> 00:27:27,714 - And your feel-- okay, so you--you do have 713 00:27:27,781 --> 00:27:31,952 very strong feelings for her. - Yes, I do. 714 00:27:32,019 --> 00:27:36,723 - I've just been hon-- honest with him. 715 00:27:39,793 --> 00:27:42,095 I just don't get it. 716 00:27:42,162 --> 00:27:44,765 - Whenever I try to talk to somebody as myself, 717 00:27:44,831 --> 00:27:47,301 you know, like... 718 00:27:47,367 --> 00:27:51,805 it's always, "No" or "Not my type," like-- 719 00:27:51,872 --> 00:27:54,741 So... [sighs] 720 00:27:54,808 --> 00:27:56,310 [sighs] 721 00:27:56,376 --> 00:27:57,911 [groans] 722 00:27:59,379 --> 00:28:01,748 - Is Ivy the first person 723 00:28:01,815 --> 00:28:04,685 you've felt like you were in love with? 724 00:28:04,751 --> 00:28:07,354 - Yeah. Mm-hmm. 725 00:28:07,421 --> 00:28:09,556 - I just want to get across to him 726 00:28:09,623 --> 00:28:11,291 he didn't have to lie. 727 00:28:11,358 --> 00:28:13,460 I might cry again. I might cry later. 728 00:28:13,527 --> 00:28:14,862 - You can cry as many times as you want. 729 00:28:14,928 --> 00:28:16,330 And he gonna have to deal with it. 730 00:28:16,396 --> 00:28:18,565 Sometimes people need to know how much they hurt you 731 00:28:18,632 --> 00:28:20,834 so that they can truly take 732 00:28:20,901 --> 00:28:22,803 accountability for their actions. 733 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:24,404 - Yeah. 734 00:28:24,471 --> 00:28:25,973 - You want to go back? 735 00:28:28,108 --> 00:28:29,910 - Hold on, they're-- they're coming back over. 736 00:28:29,977 --> 00:28:31,478 - Oh, this is Kamie. - Kamie, by the way. 737 00:28:31,545 --> 00:28:33,580 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you, Dante. 738 00:28:33,647 --> 00:28:36,950 - Yeah. - So... 739 00:28:37,017 --> 00:28:38,819 I already know you lied, but how much of the stuff 740 00:28:38,886 --> 00:28:41,188 is actually, like, true? 741 00:28:44,491 --> 00:28:47,661 - I was talking to Dante for a minute before. 742 00:28:47,728 --> 00:28:50,964 And I think, for the most part, pretty much all the things 743 00:28:51,031 --> 00:28:54,334 he's told you about his sort of day to day life 744 00:28:54,401 --> 00:28:56,603 are real. 745 00:28:56,670 --> 00:28:59,439 But why don't you just tell us a little bit about I-- 746 00:28:59,506 --> 00:29:01,308 your feelings for Ivy. 747 00:29:01,375 --> 00:29:02,709 I mean, she's finally here. You can look at her. 748 00:29:02,776 --> 00:29:03,977 - Mm-hmm. 749 00:29:04,044 --> 00:29:05,445 - We're here to listen, and talk and-- 750 00:29:05,512 --> 00:29:08,882 and we're not here to judge you. 751 00:29:11,985 --> 00:29:13,053 - Look, I really do love you 752 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,822 and care about you a whole lot. 753 00:29:15,889 --> 00:29:17,524 The way I express my feelings 754 00:29:17,591 --> 00:29:20,627 and my poems that I write to you at nighttime, 755 00:29:20,694 --> 00:29:22,963 those are real. 756 00:29:25,866 --> 00:29:27,768 - Did you ever want to tell Ivy 757 00:29:27,835 --> 00:29:29,670 that you weren't the guy in the pictures? 758 00:29:29,736 --> 00:29:30,737 - There have been plenty of times 759 00:29:30,804 --> 00:29:33,941 I came--came close to doing it. 760 00:29:34,007 --> 00:29:36,877 And I--I just kept choking at it. 761 00:29:36,944 --> 00:29:42,149 I...[sighs] 762 00:29:42,216 --> 00:29:45,185 It don't really matter. 763 00:29:45,252 --> 00:29:46,920 - I'm sure, Dante, you feel like you're-- 764 00:29:46,987 --> 00:29:49,690 you're kind of in the hot seat. 765 00:29:49,756 --> 00:29:50,991 Um... 766 00:29:51,058 --> 00:29:54,261 - Yeah, it's a lot with all of us here. 767 00:29:54,328 --> 00:29:56,363 I mean, I would love for you guys 768 00:29:56,430 --> 00:30:00,167 to be able to talk for a second, one on one. 769 00:30:00,234 --> 00:30:02,536 Maybe give Dante a chance to feel more comfortable 770 00:30:02,603 --> 00:30:04,905 and open up? 771 00:30:04,972 --> 00:30:08,842 - Yeah, I'm open to it. - Yeah. 772 00:30:08,909 --> 00:30:12,112 - We'll just be hanging out over here. 773 00:30:12,179 --> 00:30:14,047 - I just feel cheated in a way. 774 00:30:14,114 --> 00:30:16,550 And even sitting here, and I'm just like, oh. 775 00:30:16,617 --> 00:30:18,085 It's like, okay, I get it. 776 00:30:18,151 --> 00:30:23,257 I told you, like, deep, personal stuff. 777 00:30:23,323 --> 00:30:25,058 - Yeah, I-- I was wrong for what I did. 778 00:30:25,125 --> 00:30:28,061 I'm sorry that I did that thing to you like that. 779 00:30:28,128 --> 00:30:29,696 But one thing's for sure, 780 00:30:29,763 --> 00:30:32,566 my--my feelings for you was real. 781 00:30:32,633 --> 00:30:35,369 Everything I wrote to you, everything was real. 782 00:30:35,435 --> 00:30:38,505 - I mean, I waited, like--had offers, 783 00:30:38,572 --> 00:30:40,941 and just, like, dating opportunities. 784 00:30:41,008 --> 00:30:43,844 It's like, "No, you know, I'm with someone." 785 00:30:43,911 --> 00:30:46,947 "Are you taken?" 786 00:30:49,249 --> 00:30:51,251 [sighs] 787 00:30:51,318 --> 00:30:53,554 - In--in the ten years I've been making the show... 788 00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:54,655 - Mm-hmm. - I don't know 789 00:30:54,721 --> 00:30:56,223 if I've ever seen someone 790 00:30:56,290 --> 00:30:59,927 who looks as visibly remorseful... 791 00:30:59,993 --> 00:31:00,961 - Yeah. - And ashamed. 792 00:31:01,028 --> 00:31:02,329 - Yeah. 793 00:31:02,396 --> 00:31:03,397 - But, like, that's what sorry looks like. 794 00:31:03,463 --> 00:31:04,831 Right. - He looks really sorry. 795 00:31:04,898 --> 00:31:08,168 That's why it's easy to, like, empathize with him. 796 00:31:08,235 --> 00:31:09,736 - I know. - But I'm also trying 797 00:31:09,803 --> 00:31:11,672 to be on Ivy's side. - Right, I know. 798 00:31:11,738 --> 00:31:13,073 - But he loves her. 799 00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:16,643 - I think he does, yeah. - He does. He does. 800 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:22,883 - Well, I'ma go collect myself, maybe cry. 801 00:31:23,817 --> 00:31:26,253 [grunts] 802 00:31:34,328 --> 00:31:36,530 - You leaving? What's wrong? 803 00:31:36,597 --> 00:31:38,932 - [sniffles] I just needed a, um-- 804 00:31:38,999 --> 00:31:41,335 a breather. 805 00:31:41,401 --> 00:31:43,937 - You just need a moment? - Yeah. 806 00:31:44,004 --> 00:31:45,506 [sniffles] 807 00:31:45,572 --> 00:31:48,809 - Hey, Dante. 808 00:31:48,876 --> 00:31:51,278 - Hey. 809 00:31:51,345 --> 00:31:52,946 I should have told her everything from-- 810 00:31:53,013 --> 00:31:56,116 from the first beginning when I first met her. 811 00:31:56,183 --> 00:31:57,985 But one thing's for sure, 812 00:31:58,051 --> 00:31:59,987 my feelings for her was real. 813 00:32:00,053 --> 00:32:01,822 I--I ain't--I can't deny that. 814 00:32:01,889 --> 00:32:03,423 - And they still are. - Yes. 815 00:32:03,490 --> 00:32:06,393 - I think she just needs a minute to, like... 816 00:32:06,460 --> 00:32:08,829 process everything and just kind of 817 00:32:08,896 --> 00:32:10,130 let it settle a little bit. 818 00:32:10,197 --> 00:32:12,266 - Yeah. - There's a little café nearby. 819 00:32:12,332 --> 00:32:13,667 - Yeah. - We could talk 820 00:32:13,734 --> 00:32:15,235 a little bit more, for us to all talk 821 00:32:15,302 --> 00:32:16,837 and feel a little bit less awkward and uncomfortable. 822 00:32:16,904 --> 00:32:19,406 Does that sound like something you'd be down to do? 823 00:32:19,473 --> 00:32:20,974 - I can do that. - All right, great. 824 00:32:21,041 --> 00:32:23,610 Listen, man, you're a good guy. 825 00:32:23,677 --> 00:32:25,546 And I think if your feelings are as strong 826 00:32:25,612 --> 00:32:28,549 as they seem to be, I think you have a chance 827 00:32:28,615 --> 00:32:32,719 to--to show her you're not willing to lose her. 828 00:32:32,786 --> 00:32:35,622 - Like, I actually wrote a poem, like, last night. 829 00:32:35,689 --> 00:32:37,658 I was working on it to bring today. 830 00:32:37,724 --> 00:32:39,193 - If you have a poem that you wrote for her, 831 00:32:39,259 --> 00:32:41,962 like, I think that would be beautiful to read to her. 832 00:32:42,029 --> 00:32:44,097 So come to the café. Meet us. 833 00:32:44,164 --> 00:32:47,034 But bring everything you got. 834 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:50,103 Do whatever you can to keep her in your life. 835 00:32:50,170 --> 00:32:52,973 - Yeah. - We all know you screwed up. 836 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,276 But you've got a chance. But you gotta show up. 837 00:32:56,343 --> 00:32:57,711 Okay? - Yeah. 838 00:32:57,778 --> 00:32:59,279 - So walk into that café, 839 00:32:59,346 --> 00:33:03,183 and be the guy that she knows you can be. 840 00:33:09,489 --> 00:33:11,191 - Well, I know, it's easy for us 841 00:33:11,258 --> 00:33:12,693 to be like, "You guys should be together," 842 00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:13,994 like this should be a love story. 843 00:33:14,061 --> 00:33:16,663 But you've been in it for five years. 844 00:33:16,730 --> 00:33:18,532 You know how you feel. 845 00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:21,101 - Yes. - So we're here to support you 846 00:33:21,168 --> 00:33:23,437 and whatever you want. - It's tough to, like, know 847 00:33:23,504 --> 00:33:25,472 exactly how you feel about all this 848 00:33:25,539 --> 00:33:26,907 after such a short amount of time. 849 00:33:26,974 --> 00:33:28,876 But, I gotta say, this guy does like you. 850 00:33:28,942 --> 00:33:32,312 And I do think it's important to hear him out 851 00:33:32,379 --> 00:33:34,615 and at least see what he has to say, 852 00:33:34,681 --> 00:33:37,451 because he seems like a good guy. 853 00:33:37,518 --> 00:33:40,487 - I felt like I could have heard 854 00:33:40,554 --> 00:33:43,156 a little bit more on his end. 855 00:33:43,223 --> 00:33:47,661 - Here he is! - Hey. 856 00:33:49,129 --> 00:33:52,065 - All right. So how you feeling now that 857 00:33:52,132 --> 00:33:54,034 the whole sort of awkward first meeting 858 00:33:54,101 --> 00:33:57,271 and the telling the truth about you is kind of over? 859 00:33:57,337 --> 00:34:02,809 - It feels like almost a burden being lifted almost, in a way. 860 00:34:02,876 --> 00:34:04,344 - Right. So that's a good thing, right? 861 00:34:04,411 --> 00:34:05,879 - Yeah. - Yeah. 862 00:34:05,946 --> 00:34:08,448 Clean slate. Let's--let's start right now. 863 00:34:08,515 --> 00:34:09,850 - Okay. - Right, I know 864 00:34:09,917 --> 00:34:11,652 for the last five years 865 00:34:11,718 --> 00:34:13,720 you told Ivy your name was Dante. 866 00:34:13,787 --> 00:34:16,190 - Yeah. - Is that what people call you? 867 00:34:16,256 --> 00:34:17,658 What--what's your name? 868 00:34:17,724 --> 00:34:19,393 - My real name is Joe. - Joe? 869 00:34:19,459 --> 00:34:20,694 - Yeah. - All right, 870 00:34:20,761 --> 00:34:21,862 so we're gonna call you Joe. Is that cool? 871 00:34:21,929 --> 00:34:22,863 - That's good. - All right, great. 872 00:34:22,930 --> 00:34:24,331 So we didn't get much of a chance 873 00:34:24,398 --> 00:34:25,866 to get to know you before. 874 00:34:25,933 --> 00:34:26,800 Can you just explain a little bit 875 00:34:26,867 --> 00:34:28,068 about the last few years 876 00:34:28,135 --> 00:34:30,137 and kind of what's been going on with you? 877 00:34:30,204 --> 00:34:32,105 - [sighs] 878 00:34:32,172 --> 00:34:37,177 Well, like, back in 2019, I had a stroke. 879 00:34:40,247 --> 00:34:41,682 I was in the restaurant, 880 00:34:41,748 --> 00:34:43,584 just sitting there waiting on my food, 881 00:34:43,650 --> 00:34:47,221 and then when I went to get up, I fell down. 882 00:34:47,287 --> 00:34:48,722 When I got back up, 883 00:34:48,789 --> 00:34:51,491 I drove to my friend's house. 884 00:34:51,558 --> 00:34:53,260 He was there with me. 885 00:34:53,327 --> 00:34:55,229 All I can say about that-- if he didn't showed up 886 00:34:55,295 --> 00:34:56,964 when he did, 887 00:34:57,030 --> 00:35:01,668 I probably wouldn't be here today standing. 888 00:35:01,735 --> 00:35:04,238 - And I'm sorry to hear that. 889 00:35:04,304 --> 00:35:06,607 - And were you in the hospital for a long time? 890 00:35:06,673 --> 00:35:08,108 - Only just for a month. - Wow. 891 00:35:08,175 --> 00:35:09,977 - I mean, wow, that is a long time. 892 00:35:10,043 --> 00:35:11,378 - Yeah. 893 00:35:11,445 --> 00:35:13,580 - So between having your stroke and then COVID, 894 00:35:13,647 --> 00:35:16,183 it's been a rough stretch of time. 895 00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:17,718 - Yeah. - And for a lot of that 896 00:35:17,784 --> 00:35:19,653 you obviously had Ivy, which was probably nice. 897 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:21,188 - Yeah. 898 00:35:21,255 --> 00:35:24,224 - Why didn't you talk about the stroke that you had 899 00:35:24,291 --> 00:35:28,195 to Ivy in all the times that you guys spoke? 900 00:35:28,262 --> 00:35:30,364 - That's one thing I did not want 901 00:35:30,430 --> 00:35:32,099 anybody to see me as. 902 00:35:32,165 --> 00:35:35,035 I just don't want Ivy worrying about me a whole lot. 903 00:35:35,102 --> 00:35:39,406 That's the reason why I keep everything up inside. 904 00:35:39,473 --> 00:35:41,942 - I know, but Joe, 905 00:35:42,009 --> 00:35:45,012 I think what we're learning about you right now 906 00:35:45,078 --> 00:35:47,481 is that you keep things inside... 907 00:35:47,548 --> 00:35:49,716 - Yeah. - And they weigh on you. 908 00:35:49,783 --> 00:35:51,251 And the longer you keep them in there, 909 00:35:51,318 --> 00:35:53,020 the heavier they get. 910 00:35:53,086 --> 00:35:55,856 And the harder they get to talk about. 911 00:35:55,923 --> 00:35:57,858 And I think this is a great example 912 00:35:57,925 --> 00:36:00,360 of how something that you probably should 913 00:36:00,427 --> 00:36:01,962 have talked about much sooner 914 00:36:02,029 --> 00:36:05,699 ended up taking up five years of your life. 915 00:36:05,766 --> 00:36:07,734 - I always, like, wish you'd talk to me. 916 00:36:07,801 --> 00:36:09,970 If there's a time when you just feel like, 917 00:36:10,037 --> 00:36:13,340 "Oh, my gosh, I'm 'bout to explode," 918 00:36:13,407 --> 00:36:14,775 pick up the phone. Text me. 919 00:36:14,842 --> 00:36:16,677 Like, be more open. 920 00:36:16,743 --> 00:36:18,212 'Cause I do care. Like, I want to know 921 00:36:18,278 --> 00:36:20,814 stuff that's bothering you in your life. 922 00:36:20,881 --> 00:36:23,350 - She's a very empathetic person. 923 00:36:23,417 --> 00:36:24,651 She couldn't even empathize 924 00:36:24,718 --> 00:36:26,253 with what you were actually going through. 925 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,654 Even when she was going through the same thing 926 00:36:27,721 --> 00:36:29,289 with her car accident. 927 00:36:29,356 --> 00:36:31,558 - I am sorry. 928 00:36:31,625 --> 00:36:34,361 That was my fault on that end. 929 00:36:34,428 --> 00:36:37,831 - Joe, did you get a chance to work on the poem? 930 00:36:37,898 --> 00:36:39,099 - A new poem? 931 00:36:39,166 --> 00:36:40,534 - Well, he told me at the park 932 00:36:40,601 --> 00:36:43,570 that last night, in preparing himself 933 00:36:43,637 --> 00:36:47,708 to meet you, he had written a poem. 934 00:36:47,774 --> 00:36:50,878 - Poem! Poem! Poem! 935 00:36:50,944 --> 00:36:52,713 - There he goes. There he is. 936 00:36:52,779 --> 00:36:54,414 - [claps] 937 00:36:54,481 --> 00:36:57,050 - Can y'all-- can y'all give me a minute? 938 00:36:57,117 --> 00:36:58,018 - You want some space? - Yeah. 939 00:36:58,085 --> 00:36:59,386 - All right. - Oh. 940 00:36:59,453 --> 00:37:00,954 - Don't keep me waiting five years for this poem. 941 00:37:01,021 --> 00:37:02,589 - He's, what--yeah, it's-- 942 00:37:02,656 --> 00:37:03,757 this is not for us. - You right. 943 00:37:03,824 --> 00:37:06,260 - This is not for us. - You right. 944 00:37:06,326 --> 00:37:08,762 - Okay. 945 00:37:08,829 --> 00:37:11,398 "Ivy, I am sorry for all the wrong 946 00:37:11,465 --> 00:37:12,633 "that I caused. 947 00:37:12,699 --> 00:37:15,068 "I am sorry for the things that I did. 948 00:37:15,135 --> 00:37:16,737 "I hope that you will forgive me. 949 00:37:16,803 --> 00:37:19,439 "I wouldn't want to lose you over anything. 950 00:37:19,506 --> 00:37:21,742 "If I did, I would be like an empty shell, 951 00:37:21,808 --> 00:37:23,076 "without a purpose. 952 00:37:23,143 --> 00:37:25,579 "You are a prize in my possession. 953 00:37:25,646 --> 00:37:26,980 "My only possession. 954 00:37:27,047 --> 00:37:30,117 "The way you loved changed me each day. 955 00:37:30,184 --> 00:37:32,886 "The way you gently lift me, 956 00:37:32,953 --> 00:37:35,289 "the way you comfort me in your words. 957 00:37:35,355 --> 00:37:38,859 I just cannot afford to lose you right now." 958 00:37:38,926 --> 00:37:42,863 - Well, that was beautiful. Give me a hug. 959 00:37:49,203 --> 00:37:51,338 - Good job, Joe. 960 00:37:51,405 --> 00:37:53,307 - Man, that was big. That was big. 961 00:37:53,373 --> 00:37:55,442 You know, I know that wasn't easy for you. 962 00:37:55,509 --> 00:37:57,611 And there's a big difference between writing those things 963 00:37:57,678 --> 00:37:59,046 and texting them, and writing them 964 00:37:59,112 --> 00:38:01,748 and saying them to the person. 965 00:38:01,815 --> 00:38:03,350 Right? I mean-- 966 00:38:03,417 --> 00:38:05,085 - Right. [sighs] 967 00:38:05,152 --> 00:38:07,654 - And telling somebody how you feel about them 968 00:38:07,721 --> 00:38:09,122 is a big deal. - It's hard. 969 00:38:09,189 --> 00:38:11,892 Especially after all that you two have been through. 970 00:38:14,595 --> 00:38:16,363 - Ivy, how do you feel? 971 00:38:19,933 --> 00:38:22,870 - So I want to move forward, clean slate. 972 00:38:22,936 --> 00:38:26,707 No lies. Be open and honest. 973 00:38:26,773 --> 00:38:28,242 You can still say good morning, 974 00:38:28,308 --> 00:38:33,780 but let's get back to that-- that solid friendship. 975 00:38:33,847 --> 00:38:35,983 - Should Joe still be considering you 976 00:38:36,049 --> 00:38:38,118 to be his girlfriend? 977 00:38:38,185 --> 00:38:39,887 - Can we move forward in that department? 978 00:38:39,953 --> 00:38:43,056 Mm. Who knows? 979 00:38:43,123 --> 00:38:44,157 It's just-- you have to understand 980 00:38:44,224 --> 00:38:48,061 it was--is a lot to process. 981 00:38:48,128 --> 00:38:49,930 - No problem at all. 982 00:38:49,997 --> 00:38:52,232 - I mean, you can't hope for much more than that. 983 00:38:52,299 --> 00:38:54,835 I mean, it might mean no more love poems. 984 00:38:54,902 --> 00:38:56,303 - [chuckles] 985 00:38:56,370 --> 00:38:58,338 - Ivy never said she didn't want the love poems. 986 00:38:58,405 --> 00:39:00,040 [laughter] 987 00:39:00,107 --> 00:39:01,775 She never said that. 988 00:39:01,842 --> 00:39:03,076 - All right, so, look, I think this went 989 00:39:03,143 --> 00:39:04,678 as well as it could have. 990 00:39:04,745 --> 00:39:07,548 Joe, happy that you agreed to meet up with us. 991 00:39:07,614 --> 00:39:11,451 And I think we all can see that you are a good guy. 992 00:39:11,518 --> 00:39:13,787 - I had my speculations. 993 00:39:13,854 --> 00:39:15,389 But I see you are. You're a good-- 994 00:39:15,455 --> 00:39:17,591 you're a genuine person. - Yeah. 995 00:39:17,658 --> 00:39:20,727 - And people deserve to know the real you. 996 00:39:20,794 --> 00:39:22,763 And, Ivy, you're [bleep] great. 997 00:39:22,829 --> 00:39:24,698 You already know that. - Am I? 998 00:39:24,765 --> 00:39:26,533 - You are that girl. 999 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,868 - Thank you, it means a lot. 1000 00:39:27,935 --> 00:39:29,903 - Well, then why don't we all get out of here 1001 00:39:29,970 --> 00:39:31,638 and we can start this new chapter of your lives 1002 00:39:31,705 --> 00:39:33,974 right now. 1003 00:39:34,041 --> 00:39:36,310 - You ready? - Yeah. 1004 00:39:36,910 --> 00:39:41,448 - ♪♪ Ohhh, everything's gonna be all right ♪♪ 1005 00:39:42,049 --> 00:39:43,884 - Hey! both: Hey! 1006 00:39:43,951 --> 00:39:46,286 - Ivy! - What's going on, guys? 1007 00:39:46,353 --> 00:39:47,955 - Thinking about you. - Yeah, you tell us. 1008 00:39:48,021 --> 00:39:49,122 We want to find out what's going on with you. 1009 00:39:49,189 --> 00:39:50,591 - I'm doing great. 1010 00:39:50,657 --> 00:39:53,427 I tried to have a cordial relationship 1011 00:39:53,493 --> 00:39:57,231 with Joe, but he still lied and did all that. 1012 00:39:57,297 --> 00:39:59,566 So two weeks ago, I literally cut him off. 1013 00:39:59,633 --> 00:40:02,436 I have not spoken to him. - Aw. 1014 00:40:02,503 --> 00:40:04,805 - But I feel like a weight has been lifted. 1015 00:40:04,872 --> 00:40:06,206 I feel free. 1016 00:40:06,273 --> 00:40:08,108 I'm actually really, really proud of myself. 1017 00:40:08,175 --> 00:40:09,743 - I'm sorry that that happened. 1018 00:40:09,810 --> 00:40:11,712 But you seem stronger. 1019 00:40:11,778 --> 00:40:13,881 - I'm--I'm in a happy place. 1020 00:40:13,947 --> 00:40:15,549 - We're happy to see you. - Yeah. 1021 00:40:15,616 --> 00:40:17,351 All right, Ivy, always lovely speaking to you. 1022 00:40:19,486 --> 00:40:20,854 - Bye, Ivy. - All right, thanks. 1023 00:40:20,921 --> 00:40:22,422 Bye. - [chuckles] 1024 00:40:23,323 --> 00:40:24,391 [notification chimes] 1025 00:40:24,458 --> 00:40:26,593 - Hey! There he is. - Hey, Joe. 1026 00:40:26,660 --> 00:40:29,229 - We just spoke to Ivy. What's up, Joe? 1027 00:40:29,296 --> 00:40:31,732 - [sighs] - Oh, boy. 1028 00:40:31,798 --> 00:40:33,400 - Long, long days. 1029 00:40:33,467 --> 00:40:36,570 But that's kind of, like, my fault on what I did. 1030 00:40:36,637 --> 00:40:37,871 But at the same time, 1031 00:40:37,938 --> 00:40:39,239 at least I made peace with myself. 1032 00:40:39,306 --> 00:40:41,909 Like, I'm learning to let it go. 1033 00:40:41,975 --> 00:40:43,010 - How are you feeling, though, 1034 00:40:43,076 --> 00:40:44,878 now that that relationship is over? 1035 00:40:44,945 --> 00:40:46,313 - It's kind of, like, relieved. 1036 00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:48,048 Like, all that part about the Dante stuff 1037 00:40:48,115 --> 00:40:49,416 is over with, so... 1038 00:40:49,483 --> 00:40:51,485 it's like my wings has been, like, lifted. 1039 00:40:51,552 --> 00:40:53,720 - Well, I'm excited for you, now that you've got 1040 00:40:53,787 --> 00:40:56,223 sort of the weight of Dante off of your shoulders, 1041 00:40:56,290 --> 00:40:57,791 to see how things go for you. 1042 00:40:57,858 --> 00:40:59,159 'Cause you're a good guy. 1043 00:40:59,226 --> 00:41:00,561 You deserve to find someone and be happy. 1044 00:41:00,627 --> 00:41:03,363 So put yourself out there. Don't be shy. 1045 00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:05,332 And I'll looking for your-- your poems 1046 00:41:05,399 --> 00:41:06,934 on the bookshelves or something. 1047 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,402 - [chuckles] - All right, buddy. 1048 00:41:08,468 --> 00:41:10,637 - Take care of yourself. - Hey, you guys too. 1049 00:41:10,704 --> 00:41:12,339 - Have a great summer. - All right. 1050 00:41:17,377 --> 00:41:18,278 - Keonte gets a message 1051 00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:19,346 from this hot guy, Tyler. 1052 00:41:19,413 --> 00:41:20,714 - We have so much in common. 1053 00:41:20,781 --> 00:41:22,516 I feel like I know this man's heart. 1054 00:41:22,583 --> 00:41:24,685 - The email is Ty, like Tyler? 1055 00:41:24,751 --> 00:41:27,955 - Oh, boy. - Coincidence? 1056 00:41:28,021 --> 00:41:29,089 - [gasps] - What? 1057 00:41:29,156 --> 00:41:30,190 He's here. - "I'm here." 1058 00:41:30,257 --> 00:41:31,391 - Oh, there's a car. 1059 00:41:31,458 --> 00:41:33,760 [dramatic music] 1060 00:41:33,827 --> 00:41:34,895 Oh. 1061 00:41:39,867 --> 00:41:42,769 [upbeat music] 1062 00:41:42,836 --> 00:41:49,943 ♪♪ ♪♪