- ♪♪ MTV ♪♪
- Keontae gets a message from this hot guy, Tyler.
- We have so much in common.
I feel like I know this man's heart,
and I feel like he knows mine.
- The email is Ty like Tyler?
- Oh, boy.
- Coincidence?
- [gasps] - What?
He's here. - "I'm here."
- Oh, there's a car.
[suspenseful music]
♪♪ ♪♪
Oh.
[dramatic musical sting]
[upbeat music]
All right, we're back.
- ♪♪ Walk through doors with confidence ♪♪
- Morning. - Morning.
All right, and here is the office.
Oh! - Hey.
- [laughs] - What's that?
- Huh? - [squeals]
[both laugh]
- Yes!
Yay!
Whoo!
- I guess I deserved that. - You do.
Oh, that's kind of messy.
- It's payback for all the times you messed with me.
♪♪ ♪♪
Wha!
Aah! - Hey!
- Aah, you [bleep]!
Still got some confetti on you.
- I know. - Revenge.
- All right, anyway.
- ♪♪ I'm ready ♪♪
- Here is our email. We got one.
- "Hey, Nev and Kamie,
"my name is Keontae.
"I'm a full-time student from Toledo, Ohio.
"There's this guy that I've been talking to
for about a year and some change."
- ♪♪ Not saying love, but I'm into this ♪♪
- "His name is Tyler,
and he lives in New York City."
- ♪♪ See how this goes, don't question it ♪♪
- "And he's a model."
- [laughs] Here we go.
- "We met when he sent me a DM on Instagram.
He was so hot, so I messaged him back."
- That's the trap.
- "We hit it off pretty quick
"and started messaging constantly.
"A week later, we moved to Snapchat
"because Tyler had a girlfriend at the time
and he didn't want messages being seen."
- ♪♪ I ain't telling nobody ♪♪
♪♪ Nobody ♪♪
♪♪ The way you make me feel ♪♪
- "It was all a big secret
"because Tyler isn't out as bisexual yet.
"The thing is, it's not like any
"of my previous relationships.
"Tyler is always there for me sexually and emotionally.
"I'm all in.
"But after all this time,
'he still refuses to video chat or link up with me.
"He claims he's afraid to come out,
"and that's why he's holding back,
"and I get that.
"I went through the same thing.
"I feel like I've gone out of my way
"to be there as a support to Tyler.
"He says he is excited about coming out to the rest
"of the world, so why can't we just video chat?
"As fate would have it,
"I'm walking in an event in New York for Fashion Week.
He wants to meet there for the first time."
- Oh, wow. - Two models.
Two models!
- A model relationship.
- "We're finally just days away from meeting
and now his plans are suddenly changing."
- ♪♪ I ain't telling nobody ♪♪
- "He says he's going to be out of town
"and can't meet.
"I'm in Los Angeles right now, staying with a friend,
"before I got to New York,
"and I'm desperate to figure this out.
"You guys are in LA right now.
"Can we please meet?
"I need to know if I'm being lied to.
Keontae."
- ♪♪ I ain't telling nobody ♪♪
- Uh, I don't know.
It's a sticky situation.
Nobody should have to be forced to come out
when somebody else thinks that it's the right time.
It's really a personal decision.
- Right, but Keontae's not saying
he needs to come out.
- Right. - He just wants to, like,
make their private personal relationship
a little bit more personal.
- Yeah. - Well, let's find out
a little bit more.
Let's call him. [line trilling]
- Hey, yo. Keontae. - Keontae.
- Uncle Nev and Auntie Kamie.
- Hey.
- We got your email.
- [laughs] - You're in LA, which is great.
We wanna help you with your relationship
because something's going on here with Tyler.
- All right, well, rather than get into it
over the phone, can we just come meet you now
and kind of get the rest of the story?
- Great. We'll see you in a little bit.
- See you soon. - All right.
This is a first.
Tyler is not out as bisexual. - Right.
Right. - And when they met,
Tyler was in a relationship with a girl,
which I think, presumably, is now over.
- Hopefully. - Right.
- Could be why he hasn't FaceTimed with Keontae yet.
- Possibly. Yeah.
- It's a cute little secluded--
- Yeah, this is nice.
Okay. All right.
Ah.
- I like this place. - Yeah, this is nice.
[knocks]
both: Hey! - Oh, my God. Hey.
- What's up? - We're here.
- How you guys doing? - [laughs]
- We're good. [laughs] - You guys, come on in.
- Oh, my God, you're so pretty. - Your eyes are so nice.
- Thank you. - So this is my friend's house.
- This place is cute.
- He's out right now though.
He's gonna be gone for a while.
- Got the place to yourself, nice.
- Huh! - Okay.
So Keontae, take us back to the beginning with Tyler.
- So this man DMs me.
He doesn't follow me. He pops up
in my messages requests.
He said some wild, crazy things
that kind of stood out, plus he was cute.
I don't know if I should, like, say what he said.
- Should absolutely-- - You should absolutely
1000% say what he said.
- "I wanna sniff, smell, and eat your [bleep]."
[upbeat music]
- Hmm. Sniff and smell, same thing.
- [laughs] No.
'Cause you can sniff it--
- I guess a sniff is small.
- A sniff is small. A smell is a...
[inhales deeply] - I mean, if you're smelling,
you're yeah. - [laughs]
- It's two different things for sure.
I thought it was funny, like,
so I'm, like, let me just respond.
- And at the time, you're in Toledo?
- At that time I was in Toledo.
- And where was he?
- He was in Cleveland.
- Oh. - Oh, so he was in Ohio too?
- Yes. - How far away are they?
- I'd say like two hours, two and ha half, three.
- Okay, so not that far. - Not far at all.
So then how long were you guys talking
before you moved to Snapchat?
- He didn't want to talk much on, like, Instagram,
so he, like, immediately, like, after a week or so, like,
sent me the Snapchat.
- And so once you moved to Snapchat--
- Mm-hmm. - Did he send you pictures?
- No, like, like, live Snaps, no.
It was just-- it's always just messages,
but we did converse over the phone, like audio call.
You can talk over the phone on Snapchat now.
So, like, that kind of made up for, like,
not sending me live snaps,
and I never really asked him to, like,
'cause, like, I don't wanna force you into anything
that you don't wanna do.
- When you guys started talking on the Snap audio calls,
what were those conversations like?
- We ended up talking more exclusive
and getting to know each other about other things,
you know, other than, like, the sexual things.
- Sure. - He's sharing
literally everything.
I know so much about this man.
I know that he models, he dances,
he wants to be an entertainer.
Uh, he moved from Ohio
to go live his dream in New York,
which is all of the things that I wanna do.
Like, we have so much in common.
He's a family-oriented type of guy.
Like, he's really loving and caring and intelligent.
And we have, like, similar lives.
Like, he grew up a certain way.
I grew up a certain way, and it was not easy
for either one of us, you know, so--
- What do you mean? - I've been on my own
since I was, like, 14 years old, like,
literally fighting my way for an education.
Like, I was in foster care, got aged out of that system.
You know, even though I was on my own at 14,
I was still, like, considered under the custody of the state.
- Mm. - You know,
while being on my own.
And so, like, with him, like,
we kind of have just a similar life when it comes to that.
Like, he knows, like, the struggle
of being on your own, and trying to make a living
for yourself, and having a dream,
and going for your dream.
And so I feel like I know this man's heart,
and I feel like he knows mine.
- But when you started talking--
- Mm-hmm. - He was
in another relationship? - Yes.
- Can you explain kind of what went on with that?
- All I know is there was this girl
and he wants to keep it a secret from her.
I don't ask much about her 'cause I don't care.
I don't care-- - But he's not
still dating her, is he? - Nope.
That's what he claims.
- When did he say that ended?
- I literally have no idea.
I don't ask about that girl.
- What if they were, like, living together or something?
- Or what if they live together now?
- Right, and that could explain why he won't--
- Why he doesn't wanna see me. - He won't FaceTime or yeah.
- I don't believe that though because we talk over the phone.
- That's true. - Right.
- You know, like, we talk for hours
over the phone. - Right.
- So you still live in Ohio?
- Mm-hmm. - He was living in Ohio
in Cleveland when you met.
When did he move? - He literally moved,
like, two months ago to New York.
- So you were both in Ohio for a while?
- We were both in Ohio
for this whole time technically.
- Right, which makes it even more confusing.
- Yeah. - Why he couldn't link up.
- Yeah, but I'm not forcing anyone to do nothing
that they genuinely just not ready for, like.
Being gay, you know, like,
it's not easy, like, it is not an easy life.
You have to literally mentally, physically, and emotionally
be ready for that. - Right.
- But he's ready to come out.
- Well-- - He tells me that he's ready.
- He tells you that he's ready. - Right.
- Does meeting up also go sort of hand-in-hand
with him coming out?
- 1000%, so when we do finally link up,
the plan is, you know,
he is gonna be open, you know, like, he's gonna come out
to his mom, and dad, and the friends and family,
like, as a relationship with me.
- Oh.
- That's what he wants.
- Wow. I mean, that's a big deal.
- Yeah. - [sighs]
- Well, I wanna see Tyler though.
- I know. - What's he look like?
- So this is Tyler.
Just swipe.
- Ooh.
- Wow. - Yeah.
- He's cute. - He's fine.
- He fine. - Certified hottie.
- Ooh.
- Yeah. - That's my man.
- He is cute. - [laughs]
- Wait, what is that behind him?
There's a red flag behind him.
- There's literally a red flag--
- [laughs] - Literally a giant red flag
in the photo of your boyfriend.
- It's jumping out his back.
It's literally attached to him.
[laughing] Don't ignore the signs.
So what if Tyler isn't Tyler?
What if Tyler's name is Tyler,
but the pictures are not what you know to be Tyler?
- I don't know what I would feel.
'Cause I don't even get those, like, thoughts.
Only thing that's, like, really throwing me off
is the fact that, like, we've already made plans in New York.
- Mm-hmm. - And I get a weird ass text
saying, "Oh, I can't. I'm going out of town."
So I'm definitely at a breaking point.
I wanna figure this out now before I even get to New York.
- Have you googled him? - Yeah. Nothing.
- Hmm. - Nothing comes up?
- Nothing. - But I mean, if he's a model
and he's working, and those photos
certainly suggest that he is,
like, there should be some evidence of him
on the internet somewhere.
- I've searched it, and I don't see a Tyler Brown.
- So you have what you believe is his real name?
- Yes, but, like, if you go to his Snapchat,
it's literally, like, "Ray Wilson."
It's like he wants to keep it a secret.
Like, it's literally a disguise.
- He was going by Ray Wilson as his, like, DL name?
- On Snapchat. - On Snapchat.
- Yes. - [sighs]
I mean, it feels like you know a lot about him
and nothing about him at all.
- Yeah, like, what's going on in your everyday life?
- Mm-hmm. - But there's definitely
a connection there.
There's definitely something
deep and exclusive that has mad potential
to be something serious.
But, like, it's either in these two days
I see you or, like, your chance with me is, like, gone.
- Yeah. - Right.
- We gotta find Tyler.
- All right. - [groans]
- We'll see what we can find.
- Have a nice rest of your day.
- Thank you. - Nice meeting you two.
[tense music]
- I mean, that's as hot as a guy can be.
- Yeah, and then also I'm wondering how much
Keontae's story he shared first before Tyler shared his story.
- Oh, that's true. - Like, is he just repurposing
Keontae's story to make their bond stronger
and make it seem like they have more in common?
But really it's all a lie. - Right.
- I'm already feeling like whatever we find out
about Tyler is going to be a huge disappointment
to Keontae.
[percussive music]
- All right, let's do a recap. We got Keontae.
He gets a message from this hot guy, Tyler,
that's very sexual.
And just for the fun of it,
is, like, sure, I'll engage.
After a couple weeks, they switch to Snapchat.
They start messaging,
eventually start talking on the phone,
and very quickly develop feelings.
- Yeah. - Except that Tyler,
at the time that they met,
was still in a relationship with a girl.
He's bisexual, but he hasn't come out yet.
Now Tyler lives in New York. He's recently moved.
Keontae's going to New York,
and says, "Let's meet up! This'll be great."
Tyler says, "Ugh, I--that--I can't this weekend.
I'm gonna be busy," and Keontae's like,
"Okay, something's not adding up.
He's not telling me something."
All right, we got an email here from Keontae.
"Hey, Nev and Kamie, thanks again for helping me.
"Tyler's last name is Brown.
"He's 24 and works as a model.
"He lives in Manhattan, but only moved there
"two months ago from Cleveland.
His name on Snap is Ray Wilson."
- Suspicious.
- "The pics he sent me are here.
"Let me know if you need anything else.
Thank you. Keontae."
- All right. - All right, well,
I think we gotta run these pictures.
Keontae searched his name, but not the photos.
- Right.
- First pic.
[tense music]
- Oh! - Oh, yeah.
I mean. - [laughs]
- Immediately. - Too easy.
- Immediately no. - Found the guy.
I mean, he's all over the internet.
- King Klei. - Model King Klei.
And here's his modeling page. - Boom bow.
- Boom. - Okay.
We should quickly message him.
Hopefully we can get him to just confirm for us
what I think we already know,
which is that this guy is not talking to Keontae.
"'Catfish' could use your help.
Please give me a call ASAP."
Send. Okay.
- Well.
- All we know for sure
is that the guy in the pictures is someone else.
We don't know anything actually about Tyler.
- Keontae googled Tyler Brown, but didn't find anything.
But why does he call himself Ray Wilson?
Is that his name?
Could his name be Ray Wilson?
Should we look up a Ray Wilson from Cleveland?
That's where he said he lived, right?
It's a pretty common name.
On this site, we can narrow down the search.
both: Ray.
- Wilson.
24 years old in Cleveland.
[dramatic musical sting]
We got a hit.
- Mm-hmm-hmm.
- Let's see what we got here.
Mm-hmm. Wait a minute.
- The email is Ty?
Ty. Like Tyler?
- Oh, my gosh.
Yes, you're right.
Huh. - Coincidence? A coincidence?
- Maybe not. - Coincidence?
- Let's see. He's got Venmo.
Let's look him up.
Hmm.
- Now if it comes back to a Tyler Brown, it's a wrap.
- Ray Wilson.
Ooh. - Tyler Brown!
- Definitely not a coincidence.
- Look at these people. [gasps]
Look at all these people. "Love you, bestie."
- It's actually just two people.
- Mye Huston.
She's got a lot of transactions.
Search for Mye Huston.
- Mye Huston.
Oh, here's a Facebook.
♪♪ ♪♪
- Mm. - Hmm.
- In Columbus, Ohio. - Mye.
Oh, boy. Should we message Mye?
- Definitely have to message Mye.
Mye knows something.
- "Hello, this is Nev from 'Catfish'."
All right. - That's not suspicious
that there's a Ray Wilson linked to a Tyler Brown.
- There's definitely something there.
[cell phone ringing] Oh, I'm getting a call.
- From who? - I don't know. Hello?
- Yes, is this Mye?
- Hey, Mye, it's Nev. - Well, that was fast.
- Uh, and Kamie. - Hey.
- From "Catfish."
We're a bit lost to be honest,
but we sort of ended up on the profile for someone
who you seem to be friends with
whose Venmo name is Tyler Brown,
but weirdly, his Venmo handle is Ray Wilson.
- Gio?
- Oh, okay, and why does he go by these other names--
Tyler Brown and Ray Wilson-- online?
- Sure, sure, sure.
But does he have an Instagram that you follow?
- But-- - I won't be able to--
- But if he's a model, wouldn't he have, like,
a, like, an Instagram for his modeling or something
where we could just find him?
- Okay, do you know if Gio's in a relationship?
♪♪ ♪♪
- Okay, does Gio generally date women or men?
♪♪ ♪♪
- He's bi. Okay.
And is he out?
- He's out, okay. Interesting.
Are you comfortable just letting him know
that we'd love to just chat with him?
- All right, let us know either way.
- Thank you. - Thanks, Mye.
- All right. [line beeps]
- I'ma tell you exactly what was going on there
'cause I could hear her fumbling about.
- Uh-huh.
- She was texting him.
She was texting him being like, "What do I say?"
Dada, dada... - He's bi.
He lives in New York.
- He's out. - He's out.
She said he's single. - Yeah.
- And also he has a private business modeling account
I don't wanna give out, like, come on.
- There's not a model in the world
that doesn't want their account
to be seen by-- - Everybody.
- Exactly. - Oh, man.
- I have a feeling Keontae is going to hear something
very, very soon from Tyler, Gio,
Ray Wilson, whatever name he is this week
'cause we are on to him.
- The most clear information we have
is that Tyler Brown may really be someone named Ray Wilson,
but according to his Venmo friend,
his name is Gio. - Mm-hmm.
- Is bi, has a connection to Ohio.
- And lives in New York now.
- Right. - And is a "model."
Something's up. [cell phone ringing]
Hello?
- Hi.
- Oh. Is this Gio?
- Hi. How are you?
- Good. - Basically we reached out
to your friend Mye.
We're trying to help this person
who's been talking to someone on the internet.
They think they're talking to someone named Tyler Brown,
but weirdly, his Snapchat is the username Ray Wilson,
and so we found your Ray Wilson Venmo,
and just were curious to see if there was any connection.
- Have you been talking to a guy on the internet
who is from Ohio?
- Okay, um...
and you said you're from New York?
You're not from Ohio?
- Okay.
- Have you ever lived in Ohio?
- What do you do in New York?
- Well, there's always a chance that there are coincidences
and Ray Wilson is not that uncommon of a name,
but we obviously are, you know, trying to figure out
who this guy Keontae's talking to,
and you have a lot in common with the guy he's talking to,
who says his name is Tyler.
He's bisexual, lives in New York,
he's interested in dancing,
so that's why, you know, you can understand--
- All right, well, thank you so much for giving us a call.
- Bye. [line beeps]
- You recorded the voice? Smart.
- Something's definitely up.
Well, all right.
[tense music]
[knocks]
Hey. - Oh.
- Hey. - Whoa.
- How you doing? - Look at you.
- Cozy up. - Ooh.
- All right.
Oh, what's up?
- Nothing much. Just chilling.
I'm trying keep it P, trying keep it playa,
but, like, literally, like, I'm 'bout to bust out in tears.
I'm scared.
- Well, are you ready to sort of take the step
towards the truth? - Yes.
- Okay, so mostly what we had
from you were photos.
- Mm-hmm. - Right?
- So we ran the photos, and this is what we found.
He goes by King Klei. - Like, who?
Who's King Klei? - Here he is.
This looks like a real Instagram account.
This guy's tagged in photos. - He's active.
- So clearly, like, this is the account
for this guy.
So we messaged King
to see if he would get in touch with us,
and we have not heard back from him yet,
but I think it's safe to say
this is not the guy you're talking to.
[somber music]
♪♪ ♪♪
- So, like... [sighs]
Then if that's Klei, or whatever his name is,
and Tyler is not obviously Klei,
then who the [bleep] is Tyler?
- Well, we did a search for Ray Wilson,
24, Cleveland, and we also got a hit,
and we noticed-- look at their email.
- Ty. - Like Tyler.
- That email connected to Ray is weirdly also connected
to someone named Ty.
So this obviously raised more questions than it answered,
but the search also led us to a Venmo account,
so we went to it, and this came up.
Tyler Brown.
So when we scrolled,
there's only transactions that are public
from two people.
One of them is from Mye.
"Love you, bestie" suggests that Mye is a friend.
- Mm-hmm. - Right, so we messaged her,
and she got back to us,
and we had a phone call with her.
I was like, "Oh, we're just calling because we saw
you're friends with someone named Ray Wilson/Tyler Brown
on Venmo, and she said, "Oh, yeah.
I know who that is. That's"--
- "My friend Gio."
- "That's my friend Gio
that lives in New York."
And he's out and not in the closet.
And also, he does use other names.
So we're pretty sure this has gotta be him.
- But then when we were like "Does Gio have Instagram
or something like that?" She was like, "Oh, no."
- She's like, "Oh, well, he has a model one,
"but, like, it's for business,
so I don't think I should give that out,"
and I was like, "Wouldn't you--but it's"--
- Wouldn't he want that to be given out?
- It got really muddy.
- Mm-hmm. - And then she had to go.
- Right, and then she had to go.
- Mm. - Of course.
- But she said I'll tell Gio
you're looking to speak to him and give him your info.
- Okay.
- So then on the way over here,
we get a phone call from "Gio."
[suspenseful music]
And I recorded it on my phone.
- Mm-hmm. - 'Cause I want you to listen
to his voice and tell me if it sounds like Tyler.
♪♪ ♪♪
- Yeah. I'm from New York.
- Okay.
- Have you ever lived in Ohio?
- Yeah, uh, I've, you know, I've traveled through there.
Got some family there.
- And what are you doing, what do you do in New York?
- Uh, right now, I'm just, like, you know,
doing, like, go-go dancing.
I danced at the Monster, I danced at--
- You can stop.
♪♪ ♪♪
I know exactly who that is.
- Who is it?
♪♪ ♪♪
- What do you do in New York?
- Uh, right now, I'm just, like, you know,
doing, like, go-go dancing.
I danced at the Monster, I danced at--
- You can stop.
[suspenseful music]
I know exactly who that is.
- Who is it?
- That's one of my friends.
A friend that literally was just in my bed
four months ago as friends though.
Gauldan is his name.
- Okay. - And he does live in New York.
- Does he go by Gio?
- He does not go by Gio.
Is he from Ohio though? - He's from Toledo, Ohio.
- And moved to New York. - And moved to New York, yes.
- And you talk to him regularly?
- Mm-hmm, you know, like, we were close.
We were really good friends. - Okay, wait, so hold on.
You recognized his voice immediately?
If you were talking on the phone to Tyler
all this time, and it was Gauldan,
don't you think you'd have noticed?
- He had to have been putting on some act,
some smooth act.
- On the phone. - On the phone.
- Is he someone you'd be interested in?
- No.
- Has he ever tried to date you?
- No, he's never, like, said and expressed
to me, like, "Oh, I like you.
I wanna be with you" or anything like that.
- And you don't know Mye?
- I have no idea who that girl is.
- And you don't know the name Gio either?
- No. - So maybe this girl
is just covering for your friend.
- Huh, all right, well, so let's for a second
assume it is Gauldan.
Then what do you wanna do? - I wanna talk to him.
Like, I definitely got some words for him for sure.
- Right.
- Thing is, he's had lots of opportunities
over the last year and a half to come clean.
Physical opportunities in your presence,
so just because we think it's Gauldan,
doesn't mean we understand the full story.
- Okay. - We gotta figure this out.
- My instinct is to text Tyler on Snapchat.
- And say what?
- Listen, enough is enough.
I'm here with "Catfish."
I think I know who you are.
I just want you to know it's okay.
I just wanna meet. - I'll say that.
And see what happens.
- All right, now let's see. - I guess...
whatever. - He writes back.
- He opened it! - Oh!
He's in there, right? Doesn't that mean he's looking?
All right, there he is. - And he's probably
freaking out right now.
- He sent a voice message.
- Oh, open it.
Boo, like, what are you talking about?
You know I wanna meet you.
- Definitely doesn't sound like the guy we talked to
but it could be him doing a voice.
- It could be. - I don't hear it.
- I mean, it's a good disguise if it is.
- It--yeah.
- Well tell him, "How 'bout tomorrow?
Can you come to LA?"
- If he says no, like, then what?
- That's a question for you. - Oh, what'd he say?
He said, "Yes, of course.
I want to finally see you."
Say "Cool, then book a flight,
and let me know when you'll be here."
♪♪ ♪♪
- Okay. - Great.
♪♪ ♪♪
- "Okay, I'll see you tomorrow."
- Wow.
The key tonight is to be, like, chill.
- I'm not even gonna say anything.
- Don't text Gauldan. Don't text Tyler.
Just, like, leave it alone.
- [sighs] Okay.
- And as soon as we know when he's getting in,
we'll organize meeting up tomorrow morning.
- Okay.
- All right.
- Oh, gosh.
Try not to let your emotions get the best--
- Don't pop off. - Yeah.
- See you later. - All right.
- Bye-bye.
- Boy, oh, boy.
- That was crazy. - Yeah.
- I mean, he seemed so sure that Gio's voice
is his friend Gauldan.
- Mm-hmm. - But Gauldan's voice
sounded nothing like "Tyler's" voice note.
- At all, for a three-hour-long conversation,
that would have to be a lot of--
- That's hard. - Training your voice
to, like, keep that up.
- Yeah, it's hard.
- That would be hard. - And to not slip up.
It's a lot of work. - Yeah.
Well, tomorrow's gonna be very interesting.
♪♪ ♪♪
[light twinkly music]
♪♪ ♪♪
[cell phone ringing] - Oh.
It's Keontae. - Keontae.
Hey.
- What?
You sent him the address?
- Yeah. - Okay.
- Well, that's good, I guess.
Did he text you, like, an ETA?
Like a...
- Right, okay.
both: We're close. - We're close.
We'll be there in a second.
- Okay, bye. Pedal to the medal, Nev!
[suspenseful music]
♪♪ ♪♪
- Doesn't look like anyone else is here yet.
All right, let's get in there.
We don't have a lot of time.
♪♪ ♪♪
- Hey. - How are you feeling?
- My emotions are literally all over the place right now.
- Okay, we gotta strategize.
- All right, so wait a second.
Show us what happened.
- The messages that I got this morning was
"Missed my flight, but I jumped on another one."
And then I just texted him the address
'cause I'm like, I'm just ready to see you at this point.
Just come on. He's like, "Okay.
I got my car. I'm on my way."
- So Gauldan lives in New York. You're sure of that?
- Yeah. - And as far as you know,
he's in New York? - Mm-hmm.
I'm not gonna lie, like, I thought about it
after yesterday, like,
I don't know if it's 100% him.
Like, something in my gut tells me, like,
it could possibly still be anybody else.
Like a voice message over my Snapchat,
that's the guy that I've been talking to.
To me, this does not sound like Gauldan.
I'm just confused at this point.
- Yeah, I mean, it could be anyone.
Wait, did you ask for his ETA?
- [gasps] - "I think I'm here."
All right, 'cause it's a long driveway
so he doesn't know where he--okay.
All right. Let's see.
[dramatic music]
♪♪ ♪♪
There is a car out-- is that one of our cars?
No, all right, I don't think that's--
Let me go check this out.
Let me see. - Okay.
You lead the way.
♪♪ ♪♪
- Oh.
[dramatic music]
♪♪ ♪♪
- Oh. Hi.
[car door slams]
Nev. - Nice to meet you, Nev.
- What's your name?
- Gauldan. - Gauldan, okay.
♪♪ ♪♪
- You know each other. - How are you guys?
- What are you doing? - Kamie.
- Hi, Gauldan. both: Nice to meet you.
Hey. - Gauldan.
You're who I've been talking to?
- Yeah.
- Well, I'm Tyler.
- Why though?
- I honestly couldn't give you a really good answer for why.
Do you--do you like me?
You wanna be with me? You love me?
Or was it a--was it a joke? Was it a kiki?
- It was a joke. - A joke?
Like, we had a whole fake relationship, bro.
- Not even a joke, honestly. It wasn't necessarily a joke.
The whole Tyler thing literally
was not made to get you or target you
in any way at all, honestly, y'all.
It all started, like, I ended up adding Keontae
on my foo-foo account.
Like, I was on my foo-foo account
because of my ex,
you know, to snoop and peruse incognito,
fly under the radar. It--it wasn't even that deep.
- "Babe" this, "baby" that.
- I call everybody "babe." - "I can't wait to see you."
I'm pouring my heart out to you.
Like, I was there for-- not only were you there for me
emotionally, I was there for you emotionally.
I would let you in.
I'm telling Tyler real [bleep] about--
I'm telling Tyler real things
about me in real life, bro, right?
- Right. - And you're going along
with that like, "Yeah, I went through this too.
Like, I was verbally abused and I know how you feel,"
and it's not a joke.
- How and why did it go this far?
- He was just, you know, constantly messaging me
and things like that, and I knew that he was into it.
- You hit me up! - Honestly, wait, wait.
- You hit me up, bro. - Hey.
- That was you on the phone, right?
- Yeah. - Do you change your voice?
- Yeah.
I know this is, like, [bleep] up.
- Embarrassing.
It's been a year and two months, Gauldan.
- But also, it's not even just the finsta.
You have a Venmo account with a different name.
The Snapchat account has a different name.
- A Snapchat, a Instagram. You just a catfish.
You like doing it.
What about me made you feel like
you had to create a fake page to talk to me?
- Babe, it was not about you.
- So then who was it about? Because it's all--
it is about me. - It's not.
- What are you doing with a fake account?
You're cute. You not ugly.
What are you doing with a fake account?
- So you, in real life-- let's forget about Tyler.
You, in real life
have never had feelings for Keontae.
- No.
- Bro, you cap. You're lying.
- You guys were on the phone for, like,
three hours at a time. - Hours and hours.
- It doesn't make sense.
There must have been something that you enjoyed
about the relationship you were having with Keontae
that was different than the relationship
you had with him as Gauldan.
- Yeah, like, you know, like, if you play "Sims"
and you have a character who's in love with someone else,
you're not in love with your Sim character's boyfriend.
It's not that [bleep] deep,
but what it is is, like, entertaining.
- So when you talked to him as Tyler,
did it feel like you were talking to him,
or did it feel like you were pretending to talk to him
as someone else? - It felt like virtual reality.
And, like, you were eating that flirting [bleep] up.
Like, it was cool. You were a cool flirter.
- Because he thought it was gonna end up somewhere
with a real person. - Exactly.
You wanted to come out as gay with me as your boyfriend.
That was the whole reason why I'm even here today.
- But you pushed the matter, sweetie.
- You wanted a relationship. - Baby, no.
- You know what you done
because you decide to screenshot...
- Right, right. - Some pictures of a guy
that was not you and be a fake DL boy
when you are openly gay. - Exactly.
- That's weird. You're a weirdo.
That's goofy. - Yes, yes.
- You're goofy.
- You're a goofball. - Taking it.
I let him get his little rocks off
because I know he wants this in real life,
so I just let him, you know-- - What? What? What?
What in real life? - Go ahead and do that.
- What exactly do I want in real life?
- This. - [laughs]
You have lime green nails... - Talk about it.
- A long-sleeved black shirt.
You have leather jeans with fake strings coming out of 'em.
- I would like to go home.
- With these punk boots and corn rows.
- Punk boots? Prada, baby. - You think I want that?
You hit me up, bro.
I need you to make that make sense.
And if you don't wanna have a sexual relationship with me,
you're not being honest.
- Shut your ass up. - Bitch.
I'm cool.
- You hit me up, bro.
I need you to make that make sense.
And if you don't wanna have a sexual relationship with me,
you're not being honest. - Shut your ass up.
- Bitch.
I'm cool.
[tense music]
♪♪ ♪♪
- It went-- it went [bleep] haywire.
Kamie, like, it was way too much
and, honestly, at this point, I was literally
trying to find a way to, like, dead it,
to, like, kill Tyler,
to, like, not be doing this anymore,
and I'm honestly super sad that he's even, like, saddened.
Oh, my gosh.
- Is he trying to downplay?
- Definitely trying to downplay the situation
as if I was just playing, like it was just a joke.
Like, "Oh, how do you fall in love over a year?"
I just don't get it.
Like, I have options in real life.
You know what I'm saying? - Yeah.
- I'm not entertaining certain people
for kind of sort of this.
- Because if it was just a joke
and then he didn't wanna be doing it,
he could have just stopped talking to you.
- Exactly.
- Maybe he thought, "Oh, I'll try to get him
"to fall in love with me as Tyler,
"and then maybe in the future, I'll reveal that it's me
and he'll see that he actually does love me for who I am."
Whatever. - I got some more questions.
One second.
- Tae, I'm sorry. - That's what I wanna hear.
- Let's get back to just sort of clearing up
what we're even here for, okay?
Let's just go to the backyard.
Can we go this way? - Yeah, we can go this way.
- All right.
So the reality of the situation
is that you guys are clearly good friends.
For you to come here and sort of say, like,
"That was nothing to me," that's hard to believe.
So you gotta, like, explain better.
- Based off the reaction that I get
right now within this conversation
is gonna kind of sort of, like, determine
if we can even move on as friends in real life.
So with you comparing my life
and this Tyler situation to a "Sims" game,
like, am I literally a joke to you?
- No.
Honestly, like, you were never a joke to me.
- Because you like me.
You're attracted to me.
- Yeah. - Oh.
- What?
- It was, like, weighing so deeply on me
and, like, to the point where every time that I would see you
and, like, talk to you--
like, I didn't know that when I started that page.
Like, I felt like you were cool,
but I didn't know you were, you know, cool as [bleep].
You know what I'm saying?
I didn't know I was gonna [bleep] love you like this.
- Well, thank you for being honest with us about it,
and that's why you did this for a year?
- It was a way that I was kind of getting to know him
in a way that I didn't know him,
and it was interesting, you know?
And, like, I overstepped my boundary for sure,
but it was like if you read someone's diary.
Like, you know?
You kind of get, like, a deeper insight
to who a person is,
and Tyler's page was, like, a way
for me to express myself because, like,
in my real life I just-- you know, I keep face.
But, like, in that setting,
like you said, you opened up, and you let Tyler in on things,
which let my guard down in real life,
and I needed that at the time. I love you.
You know what I'm saying? You were never, like, just--
Like, you never-- you always meant something--
- Right, but you said you love me.
And I know you've said it as a friend to me before
in real life, but, like,
I just wanna know what does, like, love
in real life mean to you?
- It just means, like, you know,
you really-- you care for a person.
Like if you was to be [bleep] up tomorrow,
I'd be hurt, you know what I'm saying?
For real. Like, I see it for you.
I love you. You know what I'm saying?
It's definitely nothing but love between me and you.
- I love you too, like, as a friend.
I genuinely do, but literally just as friends.
- All right, well, look, you guys have a lot of energy
that crisscrosses with each other,
good and bad,
but it feels like the friendship
is more important to you. - Yeah.
I regret it. I would have never done it.
I would have cut that part out of my life.
- But are you happy with just a friendship from Keontae
even if he never wants more than that?
- Yeah, no. I feel like our relationship
in real life is deeper.
- Right, but listen, though.
How do you gain, like, my trust back in real life?
You know what I'm saying?
- I'm done with the foo-foo page.
We chose to be friends. You know what I'm saying?
We could talk about anything
related to what we have talked about between you and Tyler.
And I'll do whatever it takes to make it up
because I love you. I value you to the core.
He know how genuinely sorry that I am.
♪♪ ♪♪
- So where are you at as far as the friendship is concerned?
- Obviously he's my friend in real life,
and he obviously had real feelings for me
regardless of what type of feelings it was,
and I can't just hate you for that.
You know what I'm saying?
He said he needed somebody to be there,
and I needed somebody to be there,
and we had each other regardless if it was
Tyler or you or not.
We had each other at the end of the day,
and I... - We always do.
- And I love that. You know what I'm saying?
So, yeah, in more time, like, we can still be friends.
I do hate that it's not Klei,
but it is what it is.
- All right, well, then I guess that's it.
Let's say goodbye for now. - Good to meet you.
- Oh, my gosh.
- Thank you so much. - Good to meet you.
- Good to meet you, too, guys. - And I love your braids.
- Thank you 'cause they are killing.
- Oh, my God. - [sighs]
Well...
we did it. - Mm-hmm.
- We did it. - We got the answers.
Life goes on. - Yeah.
- Keontae. - Yes.
- Keep your heart open, also keep your eyes open.
- Mm-hmm. - All right?
- And just keep being you. Keep being awesome.
- Thank you.
[tender pop music]
- See you guys later.
- ♪♪ Call me foolish ♪♪
♪♪ For thinking I'd find a way ♪♪
- Drive safe. - Bye, boo.
- Later, Tae
- ♪♪ It's so useless ♪♪
♪♪ Trying to hold back the pain ♪♪
♪♪ ♪♪
- You think that they have any hope?
- You mean, like, romantically?
- I mean, I think that they're gonna end up doing something.
- It definitely seems like there's a potential
for them to have some sort of romance.
- They'll hook up eventually. [chuckles]
- ♪♪ Love is ruthless ♪♪
♪♪ Maybe I'm just fooling ♪♪
- Hey! - Hey!
Love your hair. - Yeah, looks good.
So tell us everything.
What's been going on since we left?
- I flew into New York. We had the show.
Gauldan was able to come and see me walk.
We linked up. - Like, linked.
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Oh.
- We didn't link up, link up, no.
He's just not my type. - All right.
- That's fair. Did he try?
- Yeah, he definitely tried. - [laughs]
- Like, he gets real touchy.
He want to tell me how much he love me.
- Right, well, what about dating?
Are you talking to anyone? - Not dating.
Like, I'm single. I'm not worried about a man.
- I hear you. - All right, Keontae.
- Best of luck. - Love y'all.
Bye, bye.
- Hey. - Hey, what's up?
- Wow. - How are you?
- I love this. - Yeah.
You're looking very sort of '70s roller disco.
- Yeah, yeah, that's what I was trying to go for.
- Mm-hmm, we know that you and Keontae met up
during Fashion Week. How was the energy?
- That was nice. I love him.
Everything I said, I meant it,
but we're just gonna keep it as friends.
- Are you dating someone in New York?
- I'm dating a lot of people.
My heart is open.
I'm hot and ready like a pizza.
Like, you don't sit there and let that pizza get cold.
- Facts. [chuckles]
- Well, I'm just happy you're still friends
and that you made it through this weird thing together.
It's a win.
- It was just so, so heavy on me.
I'm happy I'm free. - Good for you.
- Yeah. All right, Gauldan, take care.
- All right, guys, be safe. - Bye.
I was like, "Hey, you're just gorgeous."
- This is crazy.
He's got 12,000 friends, and they're all women.
Casey might not be the only person
Mike is talking to.
- It's giving "Texas Chainsaw Massacre."
You see someone?
- Hey. - [gasps]
- I met him, like, when he added me.