1 00:00:01,935 --> 00:00:03,971 - ♪♪ MTV ♪♪ 2 00:00:04,037 --> 00:00:06,607 - Reese, he's in a relationship with Jesica. 3 00:00:06,673 --> 00:00:09,810 - This girl seems so dope, independent, ambitious. 4 00:00:09,877 --> 00:00:11,245 I'm like, "Okay." 5 00:00:11,311 --> 00:00:12,479 - Do you know who I'm talking about 6 00:00:12,546 --> 00:00:13,647 when I say, "Jesica Foxx"? 7 00:00:21,455 --> 00:00:22,689 - This could be her. 8 00:00:22,756 --> 00:00:24,157 This is the weirdest [bleep] in the world. 9 00:00:24,224 --> 00:00:25,592 - This is, like, a deeper thing 10 00:00:25,659 --> 00:00:27,561 than just somebody talking to you, 11 00:00:27,628 --> 00:00:29,296 because they have a crush on you. 12 00:00:29,363 --> 00:00:30,964 Hello. 13 00:00:31,031 --> 00:00:32,399 - Oh, [bleep]. 14 00:00:35,402 --> 00:00:37,371 - Hey. Look at this red room. 15 00:00:37,437 --> 00:00:39,606 - This is nice. Some color in our world. 16 00:00:39,673 --> 00:00:41,008 - Oh. 17 00:00:41,074 --> 00:00:42,943 - What the [bleep] is this? - A little awkward. 18 00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:45,879 - Guess that's--they didn't have two of these. 19 00:00:45,946 --> 00:00:47,648 [laughter] 20 00:00:47,714 --> 00:00:49,183 - You know what? I'm not sitting in that. 21 00:00:49,249 --> 00:00:50,284 That's not even a chair. 22 00:00:50,350 --> 00:00:51,685 - Well, that's your spot, Kamie. 23 00:00:51,752 --> 00:00:53,120 - That's not even a chair. I'll sit back here. 24 00:00:53,187 --> 00:00:54,588 - It is a chair. - No, it's not. 25 00:00:54,655 --> 00:00:56,123 If I get down, I'm not gonna be able to get back up. 26 00:00:56,190 --> 00:00:57,858 - I'll help you. 27 00:00:57,925 --> 00:00:59,126 - This is not a chair. 28 00:00:59,193 --> 00:01:00,894 - It's a camping chair. It's a-- 29 00:01:00,961 --> 00:01:03,063 - You think I've been camping ever in my life? 30 00:01:03,130 --> 00:01:05,465 - This is good. - Oof. 31 00:01:05,532 --> 00:01:07,901 - This is good. I think this works. 32 00:01:07,968 --> 00:01:10,237 - This is not cute. 33 00:01:10,304 --> 00:01:11,972 There better be a real chair. - Bring in the chair. 34 00:01:12,039 --> 00:01:13,240 Bring in the chair. 35 00:01:13,307 --> 00:01:14,775 - [laughs] 36 00:01:14,842 --> 00:01:16,476 Yeah. 37 00:01:16,543 --> 00:01:18,745 Well, now that I have a legitimate chair, 38 00:01:18,812 --> 00:01:20,347 maybe I could get a legitimate cohost? 39 00:01:20,414 --> 00:01:21,882 [both laugh] 40 00:01:21,949 --> 00:01:23,884 - All right. Let's get into this. 41 00:01:23,951 --> 00:01:25,652 We got an email here from Reese. 42 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:27,888 "Great day, Nev and Kamie." 43 00:01:27,955 --> 00:01:30,524 Never have I ever heard that greeting. 44 00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:31,658 Why have a good day... 45 00:01:31,725 --> 00:01:33,026 - When you can have a great one. 46 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:34,895 - "My name is Reese. 47 00:01:34,962 --> 00:01:36,263 "I'm 30 years old, 48 00:01:36,330 --> 00:01:38,765 "and I live in Asbury Park, New Jersey 49 00:01:38,832 --> 00:01:42,002 where I work as a fitness transformation coach." 50 00:01:42,069 --> 00:01:45,405 - ♪♪ Makes it hard, real hard, for yourself ♪♪ 51 00:01:45,472 --> 00:01:46,540 - Ooh. - Cool. 52 00:01:46,607 --> 00:01:47,674 "Five months ago, 53 00:01:47,741 --> 00:01:49,009 "I got a message on social media 54 00:01:49,076 --> 00:01:51,144 from a girl named Jesica Foxx." 55 00:01:51,211 --> 00:01:54,314 - ♪♪ You can be somebody to love ♪♪ 56 00:01:54,381 --> 00:01:56,183 - "Jesica is more than a snack. 57 00:01:56,250 --> 00:01:58,819 She's a 20-course meal." 58 00:01:58,886 --> 00:01:59,786 - Damn. 59 00:01:59,853 --> 00:02:01,522 - "This girl is beautiful, 60 00:02:01,588 --> 00:02:04,391 "ambitious, and intelligent. 61 00:02:04,458 --> 00:02:06,193 "We've been talking for five months, 62 00:02:06,260 --> 00:02:09,863 "but haven't met even though we live 25 minutes apart. 63 00:02:09,930 --> 00:02:11,665 "I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, 64 00:02:11,732 --> 00:02:14,201 "but I'm good-looking guy on the Shore, 65 00:02:14,268 --> 00:02:16,136 and I usually get what I want fairly quickly." 66 00:02:16,203 --> 00:02:17,671 - Mm. 67 00:02:17,738 --> 00:02:19,239 - "I've never had a woman who wasn't willing 68 00:02:19,306 --> 00:02:21,675 to make some time to get to know me." 69 00:02:21,742 --> 00:02:24,478 - ♪♪ You can be somebody to love ♪♪ 70 00:02:24,545 --> 00:02:25,946 - "It's driving me a little crazy." 71 00:02:26,013 --> 00:02:27,447 This is it. We talked about this. 72 00:02:27,514 --> 00:02:29,116 - This is what you gotta do. - You want to get a guy... 73 00:02:29,183 --> 00:02:30,817 - Give them nothing. - Give them nothing. 74 00:02:30,884 --> 00:02:33,020 "I'm not in love with her, but I'm in lust. 75 00:02:33,086 --> 00:02:35,122 And I can't get this girl outta my mind." 76 00:02:35,189 --> 00:02:38,125 - ♪♪ Don't go and chase all the stars ♪♪ 77 00:02:38,192 --> 00:02:39,626 - "I need answers now 78 00:02:39,693 --> 00:02:42,229 "because this week, there was also some weird stuff 79 00:02:42,296 --> 00:02:45,532 "going on with her phone number that had me concerned. 80 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:46,967 "Maybe she's telling me the truth, 81 00:02:47,034 --> 00:02:49,203 "and her job is incredibly time-consuming, 82 00:02:49,269 --> 00:02:53,106 "but it's also possible that she's a catfish. 83 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:55,008 "I hope you'll consider helping me out 84 00:02:55,075 --> 00:02:57,344 "because I've gotta know where I stand. 85 00:02:57,411 --> 00:02:59,613 With gratitude, Reese." 86 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,448 - ♪♪ Somebody to love ♪♪ 87 00:03:01,515 --> 00:03:03,217 - Reese sounds lovely. - He does. 88 00:03:03,283 --> 00:03:04,818 - But I get wanting something 89 00:03:04,885 --> 00:03:07,287 that's so close, just can't have it. 90 00:03:07,354 --> 00:03:08,989 That's the--that's the best. That's the key. 91 00:03:09,056 --> 00:03:10,924 That's the vibe I'm on right now. 92 00:03:10,991 --> 00:03:12,893 It's called the sweet and sour. It's what I've been coining it. 93 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,394 It's like you give him a little bit, 94 00:03:14,461 --> 00:03:15,495 and then you take it away. 95 00:03:15,562 --> 00:03:16,730 Bare minimum. 96 00:03:16,797 --> 00:03:18,465 - Yeah. - Works every time. 97 00:03:18,532 --> 00:03:21,768 - Well, let's call him. - Mm. 98 00:03:21,835 --> 00:03:24,972 [line trills] Hello? 99 00:03:25,506 --> 00:03:28,108 - Reese, it's your boy, Nev. 100 00:03:28,175 --> 00:03:30,477 - And your girl, Kamie. 101 00:03:31,144 --> 00:03:32,112 - Hey. 102 00:03:33,313 --> 00:03:34,615 - I mean-- 103 00:03:35,249 --> 00:03:38,485 - Yeah, we read your email, and we have lots of questions. 104 00:03:39,119 --> 00:03:41,889 - But it'd be easier probably if we just head to Jersey, 105 00:03:41,955 --> 00:03:44,057 and you can tell us all about Jesica. 106 00:03:44,124 --> 00:03:46,159 Hopefully--I mean, look, if she's close, 107 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:47,661 if she lives half an hour away from you, 108 00:03:47,728 --> 00:03:51,164 it should be easy to make some plans. 109 00:03:53,934 --> 00:03:55,936 - Well, we'll see you I guess tomorrow. 110 00:03:57,538 --> 00:03:58,972 - All right, Reese. See you later, bud. 111 00:03:59,773 --> 00:04:01,241 - Bye. - Bye. 112 00:04:01,308 --> 00:04:03,510 Looks like we're taking our asses to Asbury. 113 00:04:03,577 --> 00:04:04,778 - I made it. 114 00:04:04,845 --> 00:04:06,246 I think Kamie's already on the flight. 115 00:04:06,313 --> 00:04:08,482 So here goes nothing. 116 00:04:08,549 --> 00:04:10,751 - ♪♪ I'm always ready to go ♪♪ 117 00:04:10,817 --> 00:04:12,953 ♪♪ I'm always out of control ♪♪ 118 00:04:13,020 --> 00:04:15,355 ♪♪ Like I'm on top of the world ♪♪ 119 00:04:15,422 --> 00:04:17,758 ♪♪ I'm always ready, I'm always ready ♪♪ 120 00:04:17,824 --> 00:04:19,927 ♪♪ Come on, get ready to go ♪♪ 121 00:04:19,993 --> 00:04:22,329 ♪♪ Come on, get ready to go ♪♪ 122 00:04:22,396 --> 00:04:24,698 ♪♪ I'm always ready, I'm always ready ♪♪ 123 00:04:24,765 --> 00:04:27,034 ♪♪ Come on, get ready to go ♪♪ 124 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:28,602 ♪♪ Yeah ♪♪ 125 00:04:28,669 --> 00:04:30,637 - All right, let's do this. 126 00:04:30,704 --> 00:04:32,072 - Oh, I want you and Reese to do, 127 00:04:32,139 --> 00:04:33,941 like, a pushup competition to see who wins. 128 00:04:34,007 --> 00:04:35,609 - He's a professional fitness coach. 129 00:04:35,676 --> 00:04:37,644 - Well, don't make excuses. 130 00:04:37,711 --> 00:04:39,246 - There they are. - Oh! 131 00:04:39,313 --> 00:04:41,615 - Hello, hello. You actually made it. 132 00:04:41,682 --> 00:04:43,183 - Wow. - We made it. 133 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:44,685 - You do hugs? - Yes. 134 00:04:44,751 --> 00:04:46,820 - Yes? Awesome. Awesome. both: Good to meet you. 135 00:04:46,887 --> 00:04:48,055 - For sure. For sure. You do hugs, Nev? 136 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:49,957 - Sure. - All right. [indistinct] 137 00:04:50,023 --> 00:04:51,792 - At least an arm wrestling competition. 138 00:04:51,859 --> 00:04:53,060 - I'm not gonna arm wrestle this guy. 139 00:04:53,126 --> 00:04:54,261 - Well, we're gonna find something. 140 00:04:54,328 --> 00:04:55,662 - Come on in. - Come up with something. 141 00:04:55,729 --> 00:04:56,897 - I mean, I do some fitness, 142 00:04:56,964 --> 00:04:58,732 but I'm not gonna challenge Reese. 143 00:04:58,799 --> 00:05:01,502 - Don't be a little punk. [laughter] 144 00:05:01,568 --> 00:05:03,136 Wow. - Welcome to my humble abode. 145 00:05:03,203 --> 00:05:04,972 - Let's go have a seat and get into it. 146 00:05:05,038 --> 00:05:05,839 - Okay. 147 00:05:05,906 --> 00:05:08,041 Well, what drew you 148 00:05:08,108 --> 00:05:10,010 to this person hitting you up on Instagram? 149 00:05:10,077 --> 00:05:11,512 - Yeah, how did it-- how did it start? 150 00:05:11,578 --> 00:05:12,646 - How did it start? 151 00:05:12,713 --> 00:05:13,981 So Jesica hit me up on the Gram, 152 00:05:14,047 --> 00:05:15,582 and I saw her name, I'm like, "Jesica Foxx." 153 00:05:15,649 --> 00:05:17,518 I saw her pictures, was like, "Oh, wow. 154 00:05:17,584 --> 00:05:18,986 She's bad too." - Okay. 155 00:05:19,052 --> 00:05:21,321 - So now I'm interested. So we start talking. 156 00:05:21,388 --> 00:05:24,224 She's from New York City. Find out what she does. 157 00:05:24,291 --> 00:05:27,294 She is 25, but she's also a live-in nurse at 25. 158 00:05:27,361 --> 00:05:29,162 So I was like, that was ambitious to me. 159 00:05:29,229 --> 00:05:30,664 You know, not a lot of people at that age 160 00:05:30,731 --> 00:05:31,965 are pursuing their career. 161 00:05:32,032 --> 00:05:33,333 So I was like, "Okay, that's cool." 162 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,068 - Yeah. - And then she lives in Howe. 163 00:05:35,135 --> 00:05:36,970 So Howe's only, like, 30 minutes from here. 164 00:05:37,037 --> 00:05:38,872 So we was hitting it off. I saw the ambition. 165 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:40,240 Trying to hang out and do things, 166 00:05:40,307 --> 00:05:41,742 but always busy. 167 00:05:41,808 --> 00:05:42,910 So, you know, eventually I'm like, 168 00:05:42,976 --> 00:05:44,378 "All right, I wanna see this girl. 169 00:05:44,444 --> 00:05:45,812 Like, I really wanna see you. I wanna hear your voice." 170 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:48,448 So tried to video call. Didn't even answer. 171 00:05:48,515 --> 00:05:50,384 But then she actually called back, 172 00:05:50,450 --> 00:05:51,485 and I didn't answer. 173 00:05:51,552 --> 00:05:52,486 So now we're kind of playing-- 174 00:05:52,553 --> 00:05:53,687 - Why didn't you answer? 175 00:05:53,754 --> 00:05:54,855 - I'm a busy person. You know, I was-- 176 00:05:54,922 --> 00:05:56,056 - Did you discuss that? 177 00:05:56,123 --> 00:05:57,391 Did you say like, "Oh, I missed your"-- 178 00:05:57,457 --> 00:05:58,725 - Yeah, yeah, like, "Oh, missed your call." 179 00:05:58,792 --> 00:06:00,227 And I'm like, "You know, gimme a call back." 180 00:06:00,294 --> 00:06:02,029 And then it's going back to, "All right, I'll try, 181 00:06:02,095 --> 00:06:04,097 but I'm busy." You know, "I'm busy again." 182 00:06:04,164 --> 00:06:05,399 Okay. Cool. 183 00:06:05,465 --> 00:06:07,568 It seem like you only get one hour a [bleep] week, 184 00:06:07,634 --> 00:06:08,869 one hour a month. 185 00:06:08,936 --> 00:06:10,437 I don't know what that is, right? 186 00:06:10,504 --> 00:06:12,105 - Give him just enough. 187 00:06:12,172 --> 00:06:13,774 Just enough. Give him a little bit. 188 00:06:13,841 --> 00:06:15,309 - What's that mean? - Just a taste. 189 00:06:15,375 --> 00:06:16,743 - We were just--we were talking about how... 190 00:06:16,810 --> 00:06:17,911 - And then you take it away. 191 00:06:17,978 --> 00:06:19,947 - The best way to get a guy 192 00:06:20,013 --> 00:06:22,983 interested in you is to give less. 193 00:06:23,050 --> 00:06:24,384 - They give nothing. - You know what I mean? Like-- 194 00:06:24,451 --> 00:06:25,986 - Nothing. - Nothing. 195 00:06:26,053 --> 00:06:27,321 - All right, so she's right. So let me tell you something 196 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:29,756 about, like-- the more a chick gives me 197 00:06:29,823 --> 00:06:31,291 it's like a-- [grunts] 198 00:06:31,358 --> 00:06:32,593 - Mm-hmm. 199 00:06:32,659 --> 00:06:34,394 - Like, so that's what's so cool about Jesica. 200 00:06:34,461 --> 00:06:37,397 Like, she wasn't sweating me. She wasn't needy. 201 00:06:37,464 --> 00:06:40,467 I love somebody who's so into what they doing 202 00:06:40,534 --> 00:06:42,836 that they don't--they might-- I don't wanna talk every day. 203 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:44,471 I wanna actually have something to talk about. 204 00:06:44,538 --> 00:06:46,573 This girl seems so dope, 205 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,408 independent, you know, ambitious, 206 00:06:48,475 --> 00:06:49,610 and she's a bad chick. 207 00:06:49,676 --> 00:06:51,278 Like, okay. - Mm-hmm. 208 00:06:51,345 --> 00:06:54,147 - Does the relationship ever leave Instagram and go to cell? 209 00:06:54,214 --> 00:06:55,916 - So--yeah. So gave her my number. 210 00:06:55,983 --> 00:06:57,184 I was like, "Hit me up. 211 00:06:57,251 --> 00:06:58,652 Let's get a little more personal here." 212 00:06:58,719 --> 00:07:01,321 So then she does give me a call. 213 00:07:01,388 --> 00:07:02,523 - Your phone rings? 214 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:04,458 - Once again, my phone is on silent. 215 00:07:04,525 --> 00:07:06,159 - You missed it? 216 00:07:06,226 --> 00:07:08,428 - Missed it. But she left a voicemail. 217 00:07:08,495 --> 00:07:10,797 - Oh. - So now I'm like, "All right." 218 00:07:10,864 --> 00:07:12,432 You know, "Okay. I get to hear the voice." 219 00:07:12,499 --> 00:07:15,769 So I like the voice, and then I called her back, 220 00:07:15,836 --> 00:07:17,471 but she didn't answer. 221 00:07:17,538 --> 00:07:19,706 But something else alarmed me. 222 00:07:19,773 --> 00:07:22,075 It was a Google Voice. - Mm... 223 00:07:22,142 --> 00:07:24,344 - So then I'm like, "You know, what's up? 224 00:07:24,411 --> 00:07:26,146 Why do you have a Google Voice?" 225 00:07:26,213 --> 00:07:28,182 And she's like, "Well, you can reach me at this number." 226 00:07:28,248 --> 00:07:30,317 So I'm like, "You got two numbers?" 227 00:07:30,384 --> 00:07:31,552 - Do you still have the voicemail? 228 00:07:31,618 --> 00:07:32,886 - I can check. 229 00:07:32,953 --> 00:07:34,588 - I kind of wanna hear what she sounds like. 230 00:07:34,655 --> 00:07:35,522 - It's right here. - [gasps] 231 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:38,058 - Oh. 232 00:07:38,125 --> 00:07:39,493 - Hey, Reese. It's Jesica. 233 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,361 I just wanted to call and say hey. 234 00:07:41,428 --> 00:07:44,231 I'm having a super busy day, and I hope to see you soon. 235 00:07:44,298 --> 00:07:45,299 Bye. 236 00:07:45,365 --> 00:07:46,733 - She sounds normal. - Yeah. 237 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,202 - The number definitely comes back to Washington, D. C. 238 00:07:48,268 --> 00:07:49,336 - Weird, though, it was a D. C. number. 239 00:07:49,403 --> 00:07:50,504 - Mm-hmm. 240 00:07:50,571 --> 00:07:51,605 - So that was the Google Voice number? 241 00:07:51,672 --> 00:07:52,873 - That's the Google Voice number. 242 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:53,841 But this was all within, like, the last week. 243 00:07:53,907 --> 00:07:55,275 You know, ever since then, 244 00:07:55,342 --> 00:07:57,077 no answer on the phone, no call on the phone. 245 00:07:57,144 --> 00:07:59,012 - But then it's interesting that she sent a voicemail, 246 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:00,380 but you haven't talked to her on the phone. 247 00:08:00,447 --> 00:08:01,548 - That's right. 248 00:08:01,615 --> 00:08:02,783 - Maybe whoever you're talking to 249 00:08:02,850 --> 00:08:04,318 if it's not the girl in the pictures, 250 00:08:04,384 --> 00:08:06,453 put somebody else up to being like, 251 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,788 "Talk on the phone for me," 252 00:08:07,855 --> 00:08:09,790 which suggests that the gender of the person 253 00:08:09,857 --> 00:08:11,825 that you're talking to does not match 254 00:08:11,892 --> 00:08:13,961 the gender of the person in the pictures. 255 00:08:14,027 --> 00:08:15,195 - Oftentimes. 256 00:08:15,262 --> 00:08:16,663 - Or it's a voice that you would recognize 257 00:08:16,730 --> 00:08:18,031 if you heard it. 258 00:08:18,098 --> 00:08:20,434 So what about anybody that you, like, dated 259 00:08:20,501 --> 00:08:23,103 or wanted your attention that you didn't give it to? 260 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:24,805 - So I meet a lot of different people, 261 00:08:24,872 --> 00:08:27,875 and I can't say that somebody maybe wanted 262 00:08:27,941 --> 00:08:29,409 a second night that didn't get one. 263 00:08:29,476 --> 00:08:31,178 - Is it fair to say that there are some ladies out there 264 00:08:31,245 --> 00:08:32,479 who might say you're a heartbreaker? 265 00:08:32,546 --> 00:08:34,214 - They can call me that if they want, 266 00:08:34,281 --> 00:08:35,849 but I'm not sitting here putting candy in their ear 267 00:08:35,916 --> 00:08:37,117 or telling them what they want to hear. 268 00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:38,485 - So you're not, like, love bombing them? 269 00:08:38,552 --> 00:08:39,520 - No. - You're upfront? 270 00:08:39,586 --> 00:08:40,854 - You're sure? - Yes. 271 00:08:40,921 --> 00:08:42,256 - Because we brought the ladies from the Shore-- 272 00:08:42,322 --> 00:08:43,390 ladies, come in. 273 00:08:43,457 --> 00:08:44,892 - We have two of your exes here. 274 00:08:44,958 --> 00:08:47,294 - No. [laughter] 275 00:08:47,361 --> 00:08:48,729 No, no. 276 00:08:48,795 --> 00:08:50,898 I feel like she's more like a Casanova than I am. 277 00:08:50,964 --> 00:08:52,666 She knows the right things to say. 278 00:08:52,733 --> 00:08:54,668 She's very, like, flirtatious, 279 00:08:54,735 --> 00:08:56,336 and she'll tell you everything you want to hear, 280 00:08:56,403 --> 00:08:58,138 make you really feel good about yourself. 281 00:08:58,205 --> 00:08:59,773 Say things like, "Oh, my God, 282 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,108 I'm in love," and [bleep] like that. 283 00:09:01,175 --> 00:09:02,142 And I'm like, "Hold on." Like, you know? 284 00:09:02,209 --> 00:09:03,210 - Wow. - Like, for me, 285 00:09:03,277 --> 00:09:04,578 there's a lot of lust. - Mm-hmm. 286 00:09:04,645 --> 00:09:06,280 - Sure. - A lot of lust. 287 00:09:06,346 --> 00:09:07,981 Love is nowhere near this equation. 288 00:09:08,048 --> 00:09:09,116 I'm not saying that it can't be. 289 00:09:09,183 --> 00:09:10,851 - Yeah, you haven't gotten-- 290 00:09:10,918 --> 00:09:12,052 you haven't had the opportunity yet. 291 00:09:12,119 --> 00:09:13,520 - Yeah, exactly. But I wanna meet her. 292 00:09:13,587 --> 00:09:14,855 Like, I want to see. 293 00:09:14,922 --> 00:09:16,323 Like, if Jesica's who she says she is, 294 00:09:16,390 --> 00:09:19,459 she could be a dope candidate for a partner. 295 00:09:19,526 --> 00:09:21,461 - I gotta see this girl. What about pictures? 296 00:09:21,528 --> 00:09:22,896 - Oh, yeah. All right. Let's see. 297 00:09:22,963 --> 00:09:24,164 - There you go. - All right, here we go. 298 00:09:24,231 --> 00:09:26,400 All right. Jesica Foxx in New York City. 299 00:09:26,466 --> 00:09:29,203 Interesting. - Mm-hmm. Body-ody-ody. 300 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:30,838 - Yeah, right? - All right. 301 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:32,439 So you've got two numbers that she sent you. 302 00:09:32,506 --> 00:09:34,808 The Google Voice one that she called you and you missed. 303 00:09:34,875 --> 00:09:36,210 - Yes. - And then another one 304 00:09:36,276 --> 00:09:37,945 she said to try that you tried and got nothing? 305 00:09:38,011 --> 00:09:39,580 - Yes. - You got her Instagram. 306 00:09:39,646 --> 00:09:40,881 - Yes. 307 00:09:40,948 --> 00:09:42,382 - And then there's no other social media 308 00:09:42,449 --> 00:09:43,684 or anything that you found or that she shared with you? 309 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:45,118 - No. - Okay. 310 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:47,154 Let us see if we can figure out if Jesica is real, 311 00:09:47,221 --> 00:09:49,156 which would be the first step. - Mm-hmm. 312 00:09:49,223 --> 00:09:51,158 - And if she's not real, then what's the next step? 313 00:09:51,225 --> 00:09:53,026 - Well, then we have to decide what you want to do. 314 00:09:53,093 --> 00:09:54,862 - Okay. - We're gonna figure this out. 315 00:09:54,928 --> 00:09:56,430 So let's see where this takes us. 316 00:09:56,496 --> 00:09:58,866 - Awesome. Thank you. Thank you both. 317 00:09:58,932 --> 00:10:00,968 - Of course. Good to meet you. 318 00:10:01,034 --> 00:10:02,135 - Great to meet you as well. 319 00:10:02,202 --> 00:10:04,204 - We gotta get to the bottom. 320 00:10:04,271 --> 00:10:05,739 - I do get the sense that Reese 321 00:10:05,806 --> 00:10:08,575 is looking for something different than what he's had. 322 00:10:08,642 --> 00:10:09,710 - Mm-hmm. 323 00:10:09,776 --> 00:10:11,278 - If all he wanted was to get laid, 324 00:10:11,345 --> 00:10:12,579 he would've stopped talking to this girl a long time ago. 325 00:10:12,646 --> 00:10:13,914 - Right. 326 00:10:13,981 --> 00:10:15,148 - So clearly there's some feelings, 327 00:10:15,215 --> 00:10:16,817 though he may not fully be aware of them, 328 00:10:16,884 --> 00:10:18,151 are pretty strong for her. 329 00:10:18,218 --> 00:10:20,220 - I wouldn't be surprised if this is somebody 330 00:10:20,287 --> 00:10:22,856 that's seen him and they've wanted his attention. 331 00:10:22,923 --> 00:10:26,326 But why haven't you met up? There has to be a reason. 332 00:10:30,764 --> 00:10:33,033 [upbeat music] 333 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:34,968 - Thank you, kind sir. 334 00:10:35,035 --> 00:10:37,871 - Oh, wow. This place is big. 335 00:10:37,938 --> 00:10:41,008 All right. What do we got? Reese, handsome guy, 30. 336 00:10:41,074 --> 00:10:43,810 He's found himself in a relationship with Jesica, 337 00:10:43,877 --> 00:10:45,579 who he met through Instagram, 338 00:10:45,646 --> 00:10:47,881 who is one, if not the only, girl 339 00:10:47,948 --> 00:10:52,119 he's ever met that won't let him get what he wants, 340 00:10:52,186 --> 00:10:53,320 and it's driving him crazy. 341 00:10:53,387 --> 00:10:54,521 - He's enamored. 342 00:10:54,588 --> 00:10:55,689 - All he's got from this girl 343 00:10:55,756 --> 00:10:57,491 is really her Instagram account, 344 00:10:57,558 --> 00:11:00,727 one voicemail, and a hell of a lot of mystery. 345 00:11:00,794 --> 00:11:02,095 - Yeah. - All right. 346 00:11:02,162 --> 00:11:03,430 I got a new email from Reese. 347 00:11:03,497 --> 00:11:05,532 "Here's what I've got for you about Jesica." 348 00:11:05,599 --> 00:11:06,967 Her name, Jesica Foxx. 349 00:11:07,034 --> 00:11:10,370 Her Instagram, which is also Jesica Foxx [bleep]. 350 00:11:10,437 --> 00:11:12,039 - It feels like a made-up name. - It does. 351 00:11:12,105 --> 00:11:13,740 "Jesica's Google Voice number 352 00:11:13,807 --> 00:11:15,342 and the second number she gave me." 353 00:11:15,409 --> 00:11:16,643 He sent some pictures too. 354 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:18,078 I wonder if these are just off her Instagrams. 355 00:11:18,145 --> 00:11:19,413 - We might as well start with the pictures. 356 00:11:19,479 --> 00:11:20,614 - All right. 357 00:11:20,681 --> 00:11:22,983 Let's just try a quick image search. 358 00:11:23,050 --> 00:11:24,618 No. All right. 359 00:11:24,685 --> 00:11:27,988 Here's another picture of her standing kind of outside. 360 00:11:28,055 --> 00:11:30,490 Oh. Ooh! 361 00:11:30,557 --> 00:11:31,658 - Okay. - We got something. 362 00:11:31,725 --> 00:11:35,295 @dedeonthebeach. What is this? 363 00:11:35,362 --> 00:11:37,965 [gasps] Yeah! 364 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:40,334 Got her. Her name's Dede. 365 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,269 - Mm-hmm. - There she is. 366 00:11:42,336 --> 00:11:44,004 - Wow. - This is definitely the girl. 367 00:11:44,071 --> 00:11:45,138 - Yeah. 368 00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:46,406 - And is she tagged and stuff? 369 00:11:46,473 --> 00:11:49,142 - Yeah. And 360,000 followers. 370 00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:50,644 - Not from New Jersey. 371 00:11:50,711 --> 00:11:53,814 Whoever Reese is talking to, it's not this girl. 372 00:11:53,881 --> 00:11:55,682 And if she's lying about the pictures, 373 00:11:55,749 --> 00:11:57,751 she could be lying about everything else. 374 00:11:57,818 --> 00:11:59,553 So let's reach out to Dede, 375 00:11:59,620 --> 00:12:02,489 see if we can get her to just give us the confirmation 376 00:12:02,556 --> 00:12:05,259 that we already basically have. 377 00:12:05,325 --> 00:12:07,361 All right, here we go. Please... 378 00:12:07,427 --> 00:12:09,296 - Help us. - Thanks. 379 00:12:09,363 --> 00:12:10,697 All right. What do we do next? 380 00:12:10,764 --> 00:12:12,132 - We search the numbers. 381 00:12:12,199 --> 00:12:15,169 - Ooh, let's put those numbers into Cash App. 382 00:12:15,235 --> 00:12:17,571 - I'll do the second. - The second one? You think so? 383 00:12:17,638 --> 00:12:20,574 - No, but the first one-- - Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. 384 00:12:22,709 --> 00:12:25,078 [humming] - Oh, wow. 385 00:12:25,145 --> 00:12:27,314 - Raven [bleep]. 386 00:12:27,381 --> 00:12:30,150 Could this actually be the girl that Reese has been talking to? 387 00:12:30,217 --> 00:12:33,153 Raven [bleep]. Hold on. Let's search that name. 388 00:12:33,220 --> 00:12:36,256 Oh, here. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Real estate agent. 389 00:12:36,323 --> 00:12:37,791 - Washington D. C., Maryland. 390 00:12:37,858 --> 00:12:40,027 - Instagram account definitely looks real. 391 00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:42,629 Good engagement. Nice comp and pics. 392 00:12:42,696 --> 00:12:45,866 So wait, why would Raven be catfishing Reese? 393 00:12:45,933 --> 00:12:47,634 - This girl's not catfishing. 394 00:12:47,701 --> 00:12:50,704 - But if she's not, why would Jesica give Reese 395 00:12:50,771 --> 00:12:52,105 the real phone number 396 00:12:52,172 --> 00:12:55,309 of some other beautiful girl who lives in D. C.? 397 00:12:55,375 --> 00:12:56,610 Let's run the number. 398 00:12:56,677 --> 00:12:59,713 - What the [bleep] is going on? 399 00:12:59,780 --> 00:13:03,584 - Yeah, Raven [bleep]. Let's see, social profiles. 400 00:13:03,650 --> 00:13:05,152 Oh, Allaboutraven. 401 00:13:05,219 --> 00:13:07,955 Okay. Okay. Where's this taking us? 402 00:13:08,021 --> 00:13:10,324 Wait a second. Interesting. - Mm... 403 00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:11,959 - This is a different page. 404 00:13:12,025 --> 00:13:14,494 - This one says she's a singer, and she has a single on Apple. 405 00:13:14,561 --> 00:13:16,430 This looks nothing like the life 406 00:13:16,496 --> 00:13:18,298 of Raven from the realty page. 407 00:13:18,365 --> 00:13:19,867 - Could this be a fake page? 408 00:13:19,933 --> 00:13:21,401 Let's just go through these pics. 409 00:13:21,468 --> 00:13:23,637 Smiley heart. A lot of heart eyes. 410 00:13:23,704 --> 00:13:25,105 But wait, someone here says, "Cute pic. 411 00:13:25,172 --> 00:13:27,207 Let's do brunch this weekend." Who is this? 412 00:13:27,274 --> 00:13:28,542 - Veronica. 413 00:13:28,609 --> 00:13:30,244 - Veronica [bleep]. 414 00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:32,479 All right, let's send this girl a message. 415 00:13:32,546 --> 00:13:34,448 - Hmm. - "Hey, Veronica. 416 00:13:34,515 --> 00:13:35,616 "Nev from the show 'Catfish.' 417 00:13:35,682 --> 00:13:36,817 "We could use your help on a case. 418 00:13:36,884 --> 00:13:38,318 Please give me a call." 419 00:13:38,385 --> 00:13:39,653 All right, so what-- 420 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,455 so can we just clear up what just happened? 421 00:13:41,522 --> 00:13:42,723 I'm so--I'm kind of confused. 422 00:13:42,789 --> 00:13:44,258 The first time we saw Raven's name 423 00:13:44,324 --> 00:13:46,059 was because the second number that she gave Reese 424 00:13:46,126 --> 00:13:47,828 came back on Cash App to a girl named Raven [bleep]. 425 00:13:47,895 --> 00:13:49,596 Then when we searched the number, 426 00:13:49,663 --> 00:13:51,865 it also comes up registered to Raven [bleep]. 427 00:13:51,932 --> 00:13:53,433 - Mm-hmm. 428 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:55,169 - And it led us to an Instagram account for Raven [bleep]. 429 00:13:55,235 --> 00:13:57,671 - There's two. There's a realty page 430 00:13:57,738 --> 00:13:59,306 that we found by Googling her name. 431 00:13:59,373 --> 00:14:01,808 Then there's what looks like a page for a singer... 432 00:14:01,875 --> 00:14:03,177 - Right. - Which is connected 433 00:14:03,243 --> 00:14:05,679 to one of the phone numbers Jesica gave Reese. 434 00:14:05,746 --> 00:14:07,214 - So could this @allaboutraven page 435 00:14:07,281 --> 00:14:08,682 just be another fake page 436 00:14:08,749 --> 00:14:11,218 set up by whoever's behind the Jesica page? 437 00:14:11,285 --> 00:14:12,753 [phone ringing] Oh. 438 00:14:12,819 --> 00:14:14,121 Veronica [bleep]. 439 00:14:14,188 --> 00:14:15,622 Hello, Veronica. 440 00:14:17,791 --> 00:14:19,893 - Hi, it's Nev and Kamie... - Hi. 441 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,929 - From "Catfish." Are you on an iPhone? 442 00:14:21,995 --> 00:14:23,664 Are you comfortable switching over to FaceTime 443 00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:25,766 just so we can be a little bit more personal? 444 00:14:27,601 --> 00:14:30,470 - Let's see if that works. Hey. 445 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:32,272 - Hi. - Hi. 446 00:14:32,339 --> 00:14:33,640 - What's up? 447 00:14:33,707 --> 00:14:34,875 We're doing an episode of the show. 448 00:14:34,942 --> 00:14:36,577 Have you seen the show? - I have. 449 00:14:36,643 --> 00:14:38,812 - We are helping this guy who's been talking 450 00:14:38,879 --> 00:14:41,481 to this girl, and we found 451 00:14:41,548 --> 00:14:44,418 a profile on Instagram, 452 00:14:44,484 --> 00:14:47,588 and you had commented on one of the pictures. 453 00:14:47,654 --> 00:14:48,889 @allaboutraven. 454 00:14:48,956 --> 00:14:50,757 Do you know who that is, this girl, Raven [bleep]? 455 00:14:50,824 --> 00:14:52,359 - I do. Yeah. 456 00:14:52,426 --> 00:14:53,727 - How do you know Raven? 457 00:14:53,794 --> 00:14:56,463 - We've been friends for years, 458 00:14:56,530 --> 00:14:58,065 colleagues, 459 00:14:58,131 --> 00:15:00,100 and then we became really good friends 460 00:15:00,167 --> 00:15:01,468 over the years. 461 00:15:01,535 --> 00:15:03,804 - So you've met Raven in person, in real life? 462 00:15:03,871 --> 00:15:06,273 - Yeah, we are friends. 463 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:09,142 We hang out. We talk. 464 00:15:09,209 --> 00:15:10,978 - Got it. Okay. 465 00:15:11,044 --> 00:15:12,613 - I know her. We're good friends. 466 00:15:12,679 --> 00:15:13,881 - Cool. 467 00:15:13,947 --> 00:15:15,449 Can we--is there any chance you can sort of 468 00:15:15,516 --> 00:15:17,684 introduce us to her, so that we could just chat 469 00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:19,653 with her and ask her a couple questions? 470 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,889 - I mean, sure, I can have her call you back later. 471 00:15:21,955 --> 00:15:23,257 - We'd just love to chat with her. 472 00:15:23,323 --> 00:15:25,425 - Okay. I can do that. - All right. Great. 473 00:15:25,492 --> 00:15:27,327 Thank you so much, Veronica. I really appreciate it. 474 00:15:27,394 --> 00:15:28,595 - All right, guys. 475 00:15:28,662 --> 00:15:30,731 - All right. Take care. - Okay. Bye. 476 00:15:33,433 --> 00:15:36,336 - Come on. I think that's her. I think that's Jesica. 477 00:15:36,403 --> 00:15:38,172 - You think so? - Yes. 478 00:15:38,238 --> 00:15:40,641 Even her voice sort of sounded, I think--I was like, 479 00:15:40,707 --> 00:15:42,009 "Is that the voice from the voicemail?" 480 00:15:42,075 --> 00:15:43,944 - This could be her. This could be her. 481 00:15:44,011 --> 00:15:45,345 - This could be Jesica. 482 00:15:45,412 --> 00:15:48,649 - But my question is, if I'm catfishing Reese, 483 00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:50,717 why am I catfishing Reese as Jesica Foxx? 484 00:15:50,784 --> 00:15:51,852 Why not use Raven? 485 00:15:51,919 --> 00:15:53,253 - Well, because she's got a few. 486 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,055 Whatever strikes her fancy. She's got the Raven. 487 00:15:55,122 --> 00:15:56,390 She's got the Jesica. [phone ringing] 488 00:15:56,456 --> 00:15:57,991 Uh-oh. 489 00:15:58,058 --> 00:16:00,127 Well, now we're getting a call from Raven. 490 00:16:00,194 --> 00:16:01,261 Hello? 491 00:16:02,963 --> 00:16:04,998 - Hi. What's up? Is this Raven? 492 00:16:07,201 --> 00:16:10,137 - Hey, it's Nev from "Catfish." 493 00:16:10,537 --> 00:16:11,972 - How are you doing? 494 00:16:14,074 --> 00:16:15,876 - I guess you spoke to Veronica. 495 00:16:18,078 --> 00:16:20,414 - We stumbled across some profiles, 496 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,249 and maybe you can help us. 497 00:16:22,716 --> 00:16:24,151 - Can you FaceTime? 498 00:16:27,254 --> 00:16:28,655 - Uh-huh. Okay. 499 00:16:28,722 --> 00:16:31,058 I don't know what to say. 500 00:16:31,124 --> 00:16:34,294 I'm gonna be honest with you. 501 00:16:34,361 --> 00:16:35,829 I think you are Veronica. 502 00:16:35,896 --> 00:16:38,065 I didn't--I think we just spoke to you. 503 00:16:42,903 --> 00:16:45,372 - I don't wanna be presumptuous. 504 00:16:45,439 --> 00:16:47,674 - But we're trying to track down this girl, Jesica, 505 00:16:47,741 --> 00:16:51,845 and we've now found you and Veronica, 506 00:16:51,912 --> 00:16:53,647 and there's, like, a weird connection to Jesica 507 00:16:53,714 --> 00:16:55,115 that we know is fake. 508 00:16:55,182 --> 00:16:56,416 Do you know who I'm talking about 509 00:16:56,483 --> 00:16:57,951 when I say Jesica Foxx? 510 00:17:08,896 --> 00:17:10,163 [line beeps] 511 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:11,465 - I knew it was gonna happen. - Right, so wait. 512 00:17:11,532 --> 00:17:12,766 That was totally Veronica 513 00:17:12,833 --> 00:17:14,301 just changing her voice a little bit. 514 00:17:14,368 --> 00:17:16,403 - It's giving Veronica. - Right. 515 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:17,838 - And the voice cadence was the same. 516 00:17:17,905 --> 00:17:19,239 - Sounded pretty similar. - Yeah. 517 00:17:19,306 --> 00:17:22,176 - And of course she couldn't FaceTime as Raven. 518 00:17:22,242 --> 00:17:23,310 - She said she was gonna tell her 519 00:17:23,377 --> 00:17:24,745 and then call back later tonight. 520 00:17:24,811 --> 00:17:26,180 It feels like she was panicked. - Right. 521 00:17:26,246 --> 00:17:27,681 - And she was like, "Let me just do it right now." 522 00:17:27,748 --> 00:17:30,817 - I mean, that has to be her. Things are moving fast. 523 00:17:30,884 --> 00:17:33,053 We got a lot that we need to tell Reese. 524 00:17:37,958 --> 00:17:39,927 - Reese, we got a lot to talk about. 525 00:17:39,993 --> 00:17:41,361 Where are you? 526 00:17:44,464 --> 00:17:46,099 - Can you text us the address? 527 00:17:46,166 --> 00:17:47,734 - See you soon. - All right. See you soon. 528 00:17:47,801 --> 00:17:50,270 - That one has a for sale sign. Probably that one. 529 00:17:50,337 --> 00:17:52,206 All right. You ready? 530 00:17:52,272 --> 00:17:54,274 - Ready! 531 00:17:54,341 --> 00:17:55,776 That's-- - Oh. 532 00:17:55,843 --> 00:17:58,078 - Hello. - What's up? What's up? 533 00:17:58,145 --> 00:17:59,646 - Hello, hello. - There he is. 534 00:17:59,713 --> 00:18:01,315 - How are you? - Great morning. Great morning. 535 00:18:01,381 --> 00:18:02,950 - Solid. - Good to see you. 536 00:18:03,016 --> 00:18:04,251 - Welcome. Welcome. 537 00:18:04,318 --> 00:18:07,788 - All right. - Suspenseful. 538 00:18:07,855 --> 00:18:10,324 I've never felt a range of emotion like this. 539 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:12,125 I'm, like, very anxious right now. 540 00:18:12,192 --> 00:18:14,795 - All right, look, this morning, we found a lot. 541 00:18:14,862 --> 00:18:16,530 So I want to go through with you, 542 00:18:16,597 --> 00:18:18,866 explain what we found, get your take on things, 543 00:18:18,932 --> 00:18:20,067 and go from there. 544 00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:21,602 All right, so the first thing we did, 545 00:18:21,668 --> 00:18:23,170 we took the pictures you sent us. 546 00:18:23,237 --> 00:18:24,371 - Yes. 547 00:18:24,438 --> 00:18:25,706 - And we did a Google Image search, 548 00:18:25,772 --> 00:18:27,007 and we got a hit. 549 00:18:27,074 --> 00:18:30,477 And it took us here to an Instagram page 550 00:18:30,544 --> 00:18:32,279 for a girl named Dede. 551 00:18:32,346 --> 00:18:34,181 So it looks like there's another account 552 00:18:34,248 --> 00:18:35,549 for pictures with Jesica, 553 00:18:35,616 --> 00:18:38,719 but this one goes by @dedeonthebeach. 554 00:18:38,785 --> 00:18:41,355 So we messaged her but have not heard back. 555 00:18:41,421 --> 00:18:44,057 Has she ever mentioned anything about the name Dede before? 556 00:18:44,124 --> 00:18:45,492 - No. 557 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:49,563 - So as you can see, she's got 360,000 followers, 558 00:18:49,630 --> 00:18:51,732 and she doesn't live in New Jersey. 559 00:18:51,798 --> 00:18:53,600 - It feels like this is the real girl. 560 00:18:53,667 --> 00:18:54,835 - Right. - Okay. 561 00:18:54,902 --> 00:18:57,538 - This is probably the real profile. 562 00:18:58,605 --> 00:19:01,475 - So Jesica's not Jesica. 563 00:19:01,542 --> 00:19:03,977 - Certainly starting to look that way. 564 00:19:04,044 --> 00:19:05,913 [dramatic music] 565 00:19:05,979 --> 00:19:07,881 - Now, y'all, who the [bleep] is Jesica? 566 00:19:07,948 --> 00:19:09,183 - So thought, "Okay. 567 00:19:09,249 --> 00:19:10,617 "We know who the girl in the pictures is. 568 00:19:10,684 --> 00:19:12,319 Now let's figure out who Jesica is." 569 00:19:12,386 --> 00:19:13,687 - Okay. - So then we thought, 570 00:19:13,754 --> 00:19:15,422 "Okay, let's run the number in Cash App." 571 00:19:15,489 --> 00:19:16,623 - Okay. - Okay? 572 00:19:16,690 --> 00:19:18,559 So we did that, and look. 573 00:19:18,625 --> 00:19:20,093 - There's a person. 574 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,063 - There's a person with that phone number on Cash App. 575 00:19:23,130 --> 00:19:25,899 - She kind of pretty. - Mm-hmm. Very pretty. 576 00:19:25,966 --> 00:19:27,835 - Yeah. - Yes. So that was weird to us. 577 00:19:27,901 --> 00:19:32,072 Like, why would "Jesica" have a number on Cash App 578 00:19:32,139 --> 00:19:33,941 under the name Raven [bleep]? 579 00:19:34,007 --> 00:19:36,710 We searched Raven [bleep] and found this. 580 00:19:36,777 --> 00:19:38,612 And so here's Raven's page. 581 00:19:38,679 --> 00:19:40,113 She's following a lot of people. 582 00:19:40,180 --> 00:19:41,615 This page seems legit, 583 00:19:41,682 --> 00:19:43,817 but this girl seems to be into real estate. 584 00:19:43,884 --> 00:19:46,486 Has Jesica ever mentioned doing real estate? 585 00:19:46,553 --> 00:19:48,455 - No. - Open one of the pictures. 586 00:19:48,522 --> 00:19:51,258 Do you recognize this girl at all? 587 00:19:51,325 --> 00:19:52,659 Have you ever seen this girl? 588 00:19:52,726 --> 00:19:55,028 - No, but... [chuckles] 589 00:19:55,095 --> 00:19:56,930 Is this who I'm talking to? 590 00:19:56,997 --> 00:19:58,699 But I wouldn't be mad if it's Raven. 591 00:19:58,765 --> 00:20:00,567 - Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, if it's Raven, 592 00:20:00,634 --> 00:20:03,737 why on Earth would she create a second profile 593 00:20:03,804 --> 00:20:06,740 for a similarly attractive girl? 594 00:20:06,807 --> 00:20:09,209 - Yeah. That don't make sense. 595 00:20:09,276 --> 00:20:10,410 - Okay, let's go back now 596 00:20:10,477 --> 00:20:12,713 and let's look up the number online. 597 00:20:12,779 --> 00:20:14,448 And sure enough, when we do that, 598 00:20:14,515 --> 00:20:16,416 we get Raven [bleep]. 599 00:20:16,483 --> 00:20:18,252 And it also has an affiliated account. 600 00:20:18,318 --> 00:20:19,653 - Okay. 601 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,123 - So it takes us to a different Instagram. 602 00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:26,360 - But this one says that she's an artist, a musical artist. 603 00:20:26,426 --> 00:20:27,628 - Yeah. - And she has an Apple-- 604 00:20:27,694 --> 00:20:29,496 - A single or an album or something. 605 00:20:29,563 --> 00:20:31,865 When we looked through her pictures, 606 00:20:31,932 --> 00:20:34,801 well, we found a comment from this person, Veronica. 607 00:20:34,868 --> 00:20:37,037 It said, "Cute pic. Let's do brunch this weekend." 608 00:20:37,104 --> 00:20:38,238 - Okay. - All right. 609 00:20:38,305 --> 00:20:40,474 And she even replied, "For sure, boo." 610 00:20:40,541 --> 00:20:44,778 So we messaged Veronica, and Veronica called us. 611 00:20:44,845 --> 00:20:48,815 And she confirmed that Raven is real and her friend. 612 00:20:48,882 --> 00:20:50,250 - We were like, "You know her in person?" 613 00:20:50,317 --> 00:20:51,585 She's like, "Yeah." 614 00:20:51,652 --> 00:20:53,253 - And we said, "We'd love to talk to Raven. 615 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,489 Can you let her know we'd like to speak to her?" 616 00:20:55,556 --> 00:20:57,090 She said, "Yeah, absolutely. I'll call. 617 00:20:57,157 --> 00:20:59,726 As soon as we hang up, I'll have her call you." 618 00:20:59,793 --> 00:21:01,995 We hang up, we're talking about how weird that was, 619 00:21:02,062 --> 00:21:04,698 because Veronica sounded really similar 620 00:21:04,765 --> 00:21:06,733 to the voicemail you got-- yeah-- 621 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,436 and then not a minute or two later, my phone rings. 622 00:21:09,503 --> 00:21:11,805 The screen says... - Raven [bleep]. 623 00:21:11,872 --> 00:21:13,307 - Raven [bleep]. - Okay. 624 00:21:13,373 --> 00:21:15,108 - It sounded exactly like Veronica, 625 00:21:15,175 --> 00:21:17,678 just with a little higher pitch in her voice. 626 00:21:17,744 --> 00:21:19,479 - Is Veronica Raven? 627 00:21:19,546 --> 00:21:20,981 - And so I'm like, "This is ridiculous." 628 00:21:21,048 --> 00:21:22,583 - He couldn't do it. - So I said--I was like, 629 00:21:22,649 --> 00:21:23,984 "Look, I gotta be honest with you. 630 00:21:24,051 --> 00:21:26,053 "I'm pretty sure you're full of [bleep], 631 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,722 and that you are actually just Veronica and we just spoke." 632 00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:31,091 - And she was like, "What?" - And then... 633 00:21:31,158 --> 00:21:32,426 - She was like, 634 00:21:32,492 --> 00:21:34,828 "I didn't want it to come out like this. 635 00:21:34,895 --> 00:21:37,564 I have to go." Hung up the phone. 636 00:21:37,631 --> 00:21:40,434 - So she kind of admitted that I was right. 637 00:21:40,501 --> 00:21:44,204 So it looks like Veronica, the woman that we FaceTimed 638 00:21:44,271 --> 00:21:46,106 and saw, is Raven. 639 00:21:46,173 --> 00:21:48,575 And that second page we found for Raven, 640 00:21:48,642 --> 00:21:50,878 which is connected to Jesica's phone number, 641 00:21:50,944 --> 00:21:54,214 is actually a fake page created by Veronica. 642 00:21:54,281 --> 00:21:56,416 So if she's Raven... 643 00:21:56,483 --> 00:21:57,818 - Then she has to be Jesica. 644 00:21:57,885 --> 00:21:59,453 - Then she also has to be Jesica, 645 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,355 because Jesica's numbers come back to Raven. 646 00:22:01,421 --> 00:22:03,090 - [bleep] that. - Which is crazy 647 00:22:03,156 --> 00:22:04,958 'cause that means that she's got a lot of fake profiles, 648 00:22:05,025 --> 00:22:07,160 possibly more than even what we found. 649 00:22:07,227 --> 00:22:08,595 - Yeah. - But, like, 650 00:22:08,662 --> 00:22:10,364 not only does she have the fake profiles for Raven, 651 00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:12,866 she's also got her phone numbers registered to Raven. 652 00:22:12,933 --> 00:22:14,635 Like, she's really-- - How is that possible? 653 00:22:14,701 --> 00:22:15,836 I was thinking that. Like, you can do that? 654 00:22:15,903 --> 00:22:18,138 - Raven's, like, her main account. 655 00:22:18,205 --> 00:22:20,807 Jesica's, like, one of her side hustles. 656 00:22:20,874 --> 00:22:22,142 - How many other people she catfishing? 657 00:22:22,209 --> 00:22:23,844 - I mean, yeah, there might be a bunch of people 658 00:22:23,911 --> 00:22:26,547 who think they're talking to Jesica or Raven. 659 00:22:26,613 --> 00:22:27,881 - Yeah. 660 00:22:27,948 --> 00:22:29,483 This is the weirdest [bleep] in the world. 661 00:22:29,550 --> 00:22:31,919 - This is, like, a deeper thing 662 00:22:31,985 --> 00:22:33,754 than just somebody talking to you 663 00:22:33,820 --> 00:22:35,088 because they have a crush on you. 664 00:22:35,155 --> 00:22:38,158 Like, who knows how deep this really goes? 665 00:22:42,763 --> 00:22:43,864 - All right, so at this point, we know for sure 666 00:22:43,931 --> 00:22:45,065 the girl in the pictures that you think 667 00:22:45,132 --> 00:22:46,300 is Jesica is someone else. 668 00:22:46,366 --> 00:22:48,402 - Yes. - It also looks like the person 669 00:22:48,468 --> 00:22:51,238 you're talking to might be Veronica, 670 00:22:51,305 --> 00:22:54,474 and that she might even have other fake profiles. 671 00:22:54,541 --> 00:22:56,743 The key to this is probably Veronica. 672 00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:58,245 So that's where we're at. 673 00:22:58,312 --> 00:23:02,115 - But how do we do this now? - Let me text Raven now. 674 00:23:02,182 --> 00:23:05,285 "Veronica/Raven, hey. Just following up. 675 00:23:05,352 --> 00:23:07,154 "I know yesterday when we talked, 676 00:23:07,221 --> 00:23:09,323 "you were hesitant to say what was going on, 677 00:23:09,389 --> 00:23:14,328 but I want to see if you're ready to talk." 678 00:23:14,394 --> 00:23:15,662 - Mm-hmm. [text whooshes] 679 00:23:15,729 --> 00:23:17,598 [tense music] 680 00:23:17,664 --> 00:23:20,267 - Ooh, that's a lot. 681 00:23:20,334 --> 00:23:22,836 - We've sent our message. So sit tight. 682 00:23:22,903 --> 00:23:24,438 Hopefully we'll hear something, 683 00:23:24,505 --> 00:23:26,640 at the very latest, by tomorrow morning. 684 00:23:26,707 --> 00:23:28,976 - Okay. Cool. 685 00:23:29,042 --> 00:23:31,111 - Cool. - Thank you. Appreciate you. 686 00:23:31,178 --> 00:23:33,013 - Alrighty. - Thank you so much. 687 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,882 Appreciate you. Thank you. 688 00:23:34,948 --> 00:23:36,149 - Yeah, man. - See you soon. 689 00:23:36,216 --> 00:23:39,019 - Yes. Thank you. 690 00:23:39,853 --> 00:23:43,056 - Do you think we're gonna hear back from Veronica or Raven 691 00:23:43,123 --> 00:23:45,993 at all, today, soon, when? 692 00:23:46,059 --> 00:23:47,427 - I mean-- - Is it gonna happen? 693 00:23:47,494 --> 00:23:50,030 - I would hope so, but I think whoever this is, 694 00:23:50,097 --> 00:23:51,498 they just need a little bit more time. 695 00:23:51,565 --> 00:23:53,500 I'm willing to give them a little bit more time, 696 00:23:53,567 --> 00:23:57,237 but it feels like they are ready to come clean. 697 00:23:57,304 --> 00:24:00,274 - Well, I think they realize, like, the time is up. 698 00:24:01,475 --> 00:24:02,576 Okay. 699 00:24:02,643 --> 00:24:06,380 Sitting here, chilling in my room. 700 00:24:06,446 --> 00:24:09,983 It's, like, 10:15 p. m., 701 00:24:10,050 --> 00:24:13,954 and I just finally got a text. 702 00:24:14,021 --> 00:24:16,990 "Hey, it's Raven. Can you talk?" 703 00:24:17,057 --> 00:24:19,693 Oh, boy. Calling Kamie. 704 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,861 [clears throat] 705 00:24:20,928 --> 00:24:23,063 [line trills] 706 00:24:24,298 --> 00:24:26,066 - Hey. You in bed? 707 00:24:28,202 --> 00:24:29,870 - Well, I just got a text. 708 00:24:30,270 --> 00:24:31,638 - I'm just gonna come down there. 709 00:24:32,806 --> 00:24:34,308 - All right. I'll see you in a second. 710 00:24:37,978 --> 00:24:38,979 - All right. Let's go. 711 00:24:39,046 --> 00:24:41,949 [tense music] 712 00:24:42,015 --> 00:24:43,350 ♪♪ ♪♪ 713 00:24:43,417 --> 00:24:45,819 I'm on, like, the complete opposite end. 714 00:24:45,886 --> 00:24:48,689 - Good. Get your workout. Reese will be proud. 715 00:24:48,755 --> 00:24:50,624 - All right. So let's text Raven back. 716 00:24:50,691 --> 00:24:51,792 "Hey, Raven." 717 00:24:51,859 --> 00:24:52,993 - Did you come over with no shoes? 718 00:24:53,060 --> 00:24:54,461 - Yeah. What am I wearing shoes for? 719 00:24:54,528 --> 00:24:57,297 - Oh, my God. - "Yes, I can talk." 720 00:24:58,932 --> 00:25:01,768 [phone ringing] Oh. Oh. Oh, Washington, D. C. 721 00:25:01,835 --> 00:25:03,437 But it says spam risk, which is kind of weird. 722 00:25:03,504 --> 00:25:05,005 - 'Cause she is a spam risk. - Oh, 'cause it's Google. 723 00:25:05,072 --> 00:25:06,240 Hello? 724 00:25:07,074 --> 00:25:08,775 - Hi. Raven, right? Hey. 725 00:25:09,943 --> 00:25:10,878 - How you doing? 726 00:25:15,582 --> 00:25:18,986 - Okay. So you know Reese? 727 00:25:19,052 --> 00:25:22,689 Reese has been talking to Jesica, and that is you? 728 00:25:22,756 --> 00:25:24,525 You've been Jesica? 729 00:25:28,996 --> 00:25:30,597 - Is that the gist of it? 730 00:25:31,465 --> 00:25:32,733 - I'm happy you called. 731 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,869 We'd love to get you and Reese in the same room, 732 00:25:35,936 --> 00:25:37,237 clear the air, 733 00:25:37,304 --> 00:25:39,706 and hopefully find some sort of path forward. 734 00:25:48,982 --> 00:25:50,984 - Okay. 735 00:25:51,051 --> 00:25:53,220 - I just want him to be... 736 00:26:05,566 --> 00:26:07,601 - What the hell does she mean by kinky? 737 00:26:07,668 --> 00:26:10,804 - Yeah, I mean, look, I haven't known Reese very long, 738 00:26:10,871 --> 00:26:14,308 but he's very open-minded and, like, open-hearted. 739 00:26:14,374 --> 00:26:17,044 And he wants to speak to you. 740 00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:19,513 So what's the reality 741 00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:23,317 of trying to get you to meet up with us tomorrow? 742 00:26:27,988 --> 00:26:30,224 - Okay, we'll talk to you in the morning, 743 00:26:30,290 --> 00:26:33,727 then you can tell us where and when is convenient to meet. 744 00:26:35,329 --> 00:26:37,331 - Okay. Thanks, Raven. Bye. 745 00:26:39,433 --> 00:26:40,534 - What kind of show you got me on, Nev? 746 00:26:45,472 --> 00:26:47,107 - What kind of show you got me on, Nev? 747 00:26:47,174 --> 00:26:48,809 - Kinky? - What does she mean? 748 00:26:48,876 --> 00:26:50,277 - I don't know. 749 00:26:50,344 --> 00:26:51,945 - But also, like--okay. Judgment-free zone. 750 00:26:52,012 --> 00:26:53,213 - Sure. - Sure. 751 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,948 She trying to walk him like a dog? 752 00:26:55,015 --> 00:26:56,783 'Cause I can't promise that he's gonna be into that. 753 00:26:56,850 --> 00:26:58,151 - Yeah, I don't think she felt comfortable saying 754 00:26:58,218 --> 00:26:59,620 whatever she wanted to say to us. 755 00:26:59,686 --> 00:27:01,154 - I don't know what she wanted to say, 756 00:27:01,221 --> 00:27:02,756 but I don't know if it's appropriate for MTV. 757 00:27:02,823 --> 00:27:04,091 - You kidding me? 758 00:27:04,157 --> 00:27:05,859 Have you seen any other shows on this channel? 759 00:27:05,926 --> 00:27:08,362 - True. - All right. Let's call Reese. 760 00:27:08,428 --> 00:27:09,630 [line trills] 761 00:27:10,197 --> 00:27:13,000 - We just got off the phone with Raven. 762 00:27:15,469 --> 00:27:17,638 - Well, it's hard to say. 763 00:27:17,704 --> 00:27:21,308 But she admitted that she is Jesica. 764 00:27:21,375 --> 00:27:23,710 I said, "Well, can you meet us in Jersey tomorrow? 765 00:27:23,777 --> 00:27:25,145 'Cause I know Reese would like to meet you." 766 00:27:25,212 --> 00:27:26,880 And she's like, "Yeah, I think I can do that, 767 00:27:26,947 --> 00:27:31,318 but I want you to tell him to keep an open-mind." 768 00:27:31,385 --> 00:27:33,620 And then it got really weird, 'cause she was like, 769 00:27:33,687 --> 00:27:36,823 "Well, I'm into some kinky stuff." 770 00:27:40,060 --> 00:27:42,729 - She definitely has more to share, 771 00:27:42,796 --> 00:27:44,331 but she wouldn't do it over the phone. 772 00:27:44,398 --> 00:27:45,866 - She said-- 773 00:27:47,134 --> 00:27:50,737 - She said she could meet us tomorrow. 774 00:27:50,804 --> 00:27:53,040 So in the morning, she said, "Text me." 775 00:27:53,106 --> 00:27:56,143 And that she'll meet us somewhere around Asbury Park. 776 00:27:56,210 --> 00:27:59,012 So look, we'll just come over to your place in the morning, 777 00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:02,549 and hopefully she's given us somewhere to meet by then. 778 00:28:03,050 --> 00:28:04,418 - All right. Good night. - Bye. 779 00:28:06,220 --> 00:28:07,754 - Kinky [bleep]. 780 00:28:07,821 --> 00:28:09,056 - Let's spend the rest of our evening 781 00:28:09,122 --> 00:28:12,626 trying to imagine what "kinky" could mean 782 00:28:12,693 --> 00:28:13,927 for Raven, all right? 783 00:28:13,994 --> 00:28:15,295 - I don't want to. - Just think about it. 784 00:28:15,362 --> 00:28:16,897 - She's gonna bring a dog collar. 785 00:28:16,964 --> 00:28:18,765 - Let me just-- - [bleep] creep. 786 00:28:18,832 --> 00:28:20,501 She's going to walk him like a dog. 787 00:28:20,567 --> 00:28:22,269 - Take your socks off. - Get the [bleep]-- 788 00:28:22,336 --> 00:28:23,470 no free feet. 789 00:28:23,537 --> 00:28:26,406 - Show me your feet. - No free feet. 790 00:28:27,908 --> 00:28:31,378 [tense music] 791 00:28:31,445 --> 00:28:33,514 - All right, Raven says she'll meet us today. 792 00:28:33,580 --> 00:28:34,648 - Mm-hmm. 793 00:28:34,715 --> 00:28:36,650 - Is she calling a kink this idea 794 00:28:36,717 --> 00:28:38,018 that she likes to, like, you know-- 795 00:28:38,085 --> 00:28:40,220 essentially is cat-- can catfishing be a kink? 796 00:28:40,287 --> 00:28:42,756 - There probably is a whole Reddit forum about this. 797 00:28:42,823 --> 00:28:44,725 - Right, people who just love... 798 00:28:44,791 --> 00:28:46,326 - Catfishing for kinks. 799 00:28:46,393 --> 00:28:48,829 - Getting off talking to people as, like, hot other people. 800 00:28:48,896 --> 00:28:50,163 All right. 801 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:52,733 Well, let's find out what's really going on. 802 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:53,934 - Mm-hmm. - All right. 803 00:28:54,001 --> 00:28:56,036 So let's check in with Raven. 804 00:28:56,103 --> 00:28:58,972 - That's not her name. - "Good morning, Raven. 805 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:03,410 "Excited to meet up today. 806 00:29:03,477 --> 00:29:08,582 Let me know when and where is good for you." 807 00:29:10,484 --> 00:29:13,754 - Everybody has kinks. You're lying if you don't. 808 00:29:13,820 --> 00:29:15,189 And the people who say that they don't, 809 00:29:15,255 --> 00:29:17,090 they're just too afraid to admit. 810 00:29:17,157 --> 00:29:18,725 [phone dings] [gasps] 811 00:29:18,792 --> 00:29:19,893 - Ooh. It's Raven. 812 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,029 - Uh-huh. - "Good morning. 813 00:29:22,095 --> 00:29:24,031 "If Reese is cool with what we talked about, 814 00:29:24,097 --> 00:29:26,500 we can meet at Turkey Swamp Park." 815 00:29:27,901 --> 00:29:30,637 I said, "That's great news. I'll see you then." 816 00:29:30,704 --> 00:29:32,439 - All right. - [sighs] 817 00:29:32,506 --> 00:29:34,241 - Let us go. 818 00:29:34,308 --> 00:29:37,744 - I mean, you know what? I'm gonna put it in S. 819 00:29:37,811 --> 00:29:39,179 - Why? - Feeling sporty. 820 00:29:39,246 --> 00:29:41,048 - Oh, wow. - I got the sport jacket. 821 00:29:41,114 --> 00:29:42,282 Putting it in S today. 822 00:29:42,349 --> 00:29:44,952 I wish there was a K for kinky. 823 00:29:45,018 --> 00:29:46,653 Just throw it to kink mode. 824 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,656 [upbeat music] 825 00:29:49,723 --> 00:29:51,992 ♪♪ ♪♪ 826 00:29:52,059 --> 00:29:53,794 [doorbell chimes] 827 00:29:53,861 --> 00:29:55,229 - Okay. Good morning. 828 00:29:55,295 --> 00:29:57,097 - Great morning. - Great, great morning. 829 00:29:57,164 --> 00:29:58,899 - Yes. - Great morning. 830 00:29:58,966 --> 00:30:00,167 - Yes. Yes. 831 00:30:00,234 --> 00:30:01,602 - A front seat for you. 832 00:30:01,668 --> 00:30:04,404 - Oh, you too. Okay. Awesome. Awesome. Thank you. 833 00:30:04,471 --> 00:30:06,907 - This whole kinky thing has me totally thrown. 834 00:30:06,974 --> 00:30:10,010 Has Jesica ever alluded to or tried 835 00:30:10,077 --> 00:30:12,412 to get kinky with you via DMs? 836 00:30:12,479 --> 00:30:14,414 Has she ever, like-- - Oh, like some nasty talk? 837 00:30:14,481 --> 00:30:15,849 - Yeah. Or anything. - Oh, yeah, yeah. 838 00:30:15,916 --> 00:30:17,284 - Oh, she has? - Yes, nasty talk. Yes. 839 00:30:17,351 --> 00:30:18,986 - Alluding to sex for sure. - Yes. 840 00:30:19,052 --> 00:30:20,687 - But nothing like, "I'm gonna"... 841 00:30:20,754 --> 00:30:22,189 - Walk you like a dog. 842 00:30:22,256 --> 00:30:24,391 - "Wrap your feet in bacon and, like, put whipped cream 843 00:30:24,458 --> 00:30:26,593 up in your butt [bleep]." Nothing like that, right? 844 00:30:26,660 --> 00:30:27,928 - Nah, no whipped cream in my butt [bleep]. 845 00:30:27,995 --> 00:30:29,129 - Okay. Well, I don't know. 846 00:30:29,196 --> 00:30:30,597 - Nah, nah. - Not yet. 847 00:30:30,664 --> 00:30:31,765 - The point is, we don't know 848 00:30:31,832 --> 00:30:32,733 what the hell we're going to find. 849 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:34,067 - No, no. 850 00:30:34,134 --> 00:30:35,569 - But I think it is good to keep an open mind. 851 00:30:35,636 --> 00:30:36,870 - I have been. 852 00:30:36,937 --> 00:30:38,939 My whole night, I've been preparing myself 853 00:30:39,006 --> 00:30:42,776 with every possibility and being okay. 854 00:30:42,843 --> 00:30:45,045 [dramatic music] 855 00:30:45,112 --> 00:30:47,881 - All right. Here we are. 856 00:30:47,948 --> 00:30:52,019 - I don't think I've ever felt this much suspense in my life. 857 00:30:52,085 --> 00:30:54,054 - I don't like the vibes here. 858 00:30:55,355 --> 00:30:57,257 - Why do I feel like I'm in a horror movie? 859 00:30:58,458 --> 00:31:00,894 - Well, there's other parked cars. 860 00:31:00,961 --> 00:31:02,062 Do you see anything? 861 00:31:02,129 --> 00:31:03,463 - No. Where do we go? 862 00:31:03,530 --> 00:31:05,199 - And I guess we could just poke around, right? 863 00:31:05,265 --> 00:31:07,301 I think we should just check it out. 864 00:31:10,137 --> 00:31:12,873 - I see somebody over there. - Where? 865 00:31:12,940 --> 00:31:14,174 - Straight ahead. Over there. 866 00:31:14,241 --> 00:31:16,343 Right behind these poles. - Oh. 867 00:31:16,410 --> 00:31:18,846 You see it? - Oh, oh. Oh, yeah. 868 00:31:18,912 --> 00:31:19,847 - See? How do we go to the-- 869 00:31:19,913 --> 00:31:20,948 - Okay. - Is that her? 870 00:31:21,014 --> 00:31:22,516 - I guess we have to go this way. 871 00:31:22,583 --> 00:31:23,750 - [gasps] 872 00:31:23,817 --> 00:31:25,252 This is freaking me the [bleep] out. 873 00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,187 - Oh, I think--that looks like a girl, right? 874 00:31:27,254 --> 00:31:29,556 - Yeah. - It kind of looks like-- 875 00:31:29,623 --> 00:31:31,325 it's shaped like Jesica. 876 00:31:31,391 --> 00:31:33,493 They hiding? 877 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,731 - This is probably our Raven. - Uh-huh. 878 00:31:37,798 --> 00:31:41,235 - All right. My heart is pounding right now. 879 00:31:41,301 --> 00:31:44,738 [suspenseful music] 880 00:31:44,805 --> 00:31:45,939 - Hello. 881 00:31:46,006 --> 00:31:49,510 ♪♪ ♪♪ 882 00:31:49,576 --> 00:31:51,044 Raven? 883 00:31:51,111 --> 00:31:52,479 - Oh, [bleep]. 884 00:31:57,651 --> 00:31:58,819 - Raven? 885 00:31:58,886 --> 00:32:02,689 [dramatic music] 886 00:32:02,756 --> 00:32:04,858 - Oh, [bleep]. I've seen that person before. 887 00:32:04,925 --> 00:32:06,360 - How are you? - How you doing? Nev. 888 00:32:06,426 --> 00:32:07,461 - Good. Nice to meet you. 889 00:32:07,528 --> 00:32:08,629 - Nice to meet you too. 890 00:32:08,695 --> 00:32:09,863 - You know them? - Yeah. 891 00:32:09,930 --> 00:32:11,798 I think I seen that person. - Really? 892 00:32:11,865 --> 00:32:13,700 - Real familiar. - Really? 893 00:32:13,767 --> 00:32:16,069 - Real familiar. Yes. 894 00:32:16,136 --> 00:32:18,005 - Let's go talk to them. 895 00:32:18,071 --> 00:32:21,241 ♪♪ ♪♪ 896 00:32:21,308 --> 00:32:22,809 - Hello. 897 00:32:22,876 --> 00:32:25,279 - Hello. - Hi. How are you? 898 00:32:25,345 --> 00:32:26,380 - Good. How are you? 899 00:32:26,446 --> 00:32:27,581 - I'm Kamie. 900 00:32:27,648 --> 00:32:28,715 - I'm Remy. - Nice to meet you. 901 00:32:28,782 --> 00:32:29,716 - What'd you say your name was? 902 00:32:29,783 --> 00:32:31,084 - Remy. both: Remy? 903 00:32:31,151 --> 00:32:33,387 - Okay. And obviously, this is Reese. 904 00:32:33,453 --> 00:32:34,588 - Hello. - What's up? 905 00:32:34,655 --> 00:32:36,089 - Hello, Reese. 906 00:32:36,156 --> 00:32:39,426 - Are you from--where you from? - I'm from Jersey. 907 00:32:39,493 --> 00:32:40,928 - You from Jersey? - Do you know Remy? 908 00:32:40,994 --> 00:32:43,197 - He's real familiar? Do you--have you seen me? 909 00:32:43,263 --> 00:32:44,398 Do you know me? 910 00:32:44,464 --> 00:32:45,699 How do you know me? - Yeah. 911 00:32:47,301 --> 00:32:49,069 - At the club. 912 00:32:49,136 --> 00:32:50,537 - Me, you, and my girl. 913 00:32:50,604 --> 00:32:52,439 - Oh. - Okay. 914 00:32:52,506 --> 00:32:55,108 - So before you started talking to him? 915 00:32:55,175 --> 00:32:57,845 - Correct. He just came to us. Well, we walked to the bar. 916 00:32:57,911 --> 00:33:00,247 He came, walked up to us, and he introduced himself. 917 00:33:00,314 --> 00:33:04,284 Very nice. Offered us drinks. So we just all had a good time. 918 00:33:04,351 --> 00:33:05,619 - Mm-hmm. - Okay. 919 00:33:05,686 --> 00:33:06,920 - Just because we have such a good time, 920 00:33:06,987 --> 00:33:08,789 I just wanted to get to know him more. 921 00:33:08,856 --> 00:33:11,091 And also because I just think he's very attractive. 922 00:33:11,158 --> 00:33:13,527 - I mean, I do have a lot of gay friends, 923 00:33:13,594 --> 00:33:15,095 but I'm not bisexual. 924 00:33:15,162 --> 00:33:17,097 I am straight. 925 00:33:17,164 --> 00:33:20,767 - So did you then immediately create a Jesica profile, 926 00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:22,436 or did you already have the Jesica profile? 927 00:33:22,503 --> 00:33:24,338 - No, I already had the Jesica profile. 928 00:33:24,404 --> 00:33:25,873 - So do you do this to other people? 929 00:33:25,939 --> 00:33:27,241 - Well, I only do this to people 930 00:33:27,307 --> 00:33:29,710 that I'm attracted to, and it's not catfishing. 931 00:33:29,776 --> 00:33:31,478 It's more like just getting to know them 932 00:33:31,545 --> 00:33:34,114 to protect myself and my identity. 933 00:33:34,181 --> 00:33:35,749 And once I get to know them, 934 00:33:35,816 --> 00:33:38,919 if they're down to be with another guy, 935 00:33:38,986 --> 00:33:41,755 then I speak to the person as me. 936 00:33:41,822 --> 00:33:43,991 But Jesica is just more to get to know the person. 937 00:33:44,057 --> 00:33:46,026 - Sure. Okay. 938 00:33:46,093 --> 00:33:47,528 - Just for that. 939 00:33:47,594 --> 00:33:49,463 - I wanna--there's more to talk about there, 940 00:33:49,530 --> 00:33:52,099 but before we get too far into that, 941 00:33:52,165 --> 00:33:53,467 what's up with Raven? 942 00:33:53,534 --> 00:33:55,969 Is that also a profile of yours? 943 00:33:56,036 --> 00:33:57,738 - No, that's actually a friend of mine. 944 00:33:57,804 --> 00:33:59,973 - But Raven called us last night. 945 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,208 That wasn't you? 946 00:34:01,275 --> 00:34:02,342 - No, but you said you were Raven. 947 00:34:02,409 --> 00:34:03,677 - No, that was Raven, my friend. 948 00:34:03,744 --> 00:34:05,779 - Wait, but when you texted me this morning, 949 00:34:05,846 --> 00:34:07,181 you said, "Hey, it's Raven." 950 00:34:07,247 --> 00:34:09,683 - That was Raven. - That was actually Raven? 951 00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:11,018 - Yes, Raven is real. She's my friend. 952 00:34:11,084 --> 00:34:12,920 - So Raven--I was texting with Raven 953 00:34:12,986 --> 00:34:14,454 and made plans to meet you here, 954 00:34:14,521 --> 00:34:15,989 and then she told you that? 955 00:34:16,056 --> 00:34:17,057 - Correct. 956 00:34:17,124 --> 00:34:19,059 - So we haven't actually texted? 957 00:34:19,126 --> 00:34:21,962 Why were you giving Raven's number to Reese? 958 00:34:22,029 --> 00:34:23,397 - So that he can speak to my friend. 959 00:34:23,463 --> 00:34:24,698 - So I could talk to a girl? 960 00:34:24,765 --> 00:34:26,633 - So Raven called him? - Yes. 961 00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:29,703 - And left him that voicemail? - That's--this [bleep] is wild. 962 00:34:29,770 --> 00:34:31,805 - But then at some point in talking to Reese, 963 00:34:31,872 --> 00:34:34,708 you knew that he was heterosexual 964 00:34:34,775 --> 00:34:36,810 and only interested in talking to women. 965 00:34:36,877 --> 00:34:39,980 And you were then trying to catfish him 966 00:34:40,047 --> 00:34:42,149 and fool him into thinking that he was talking to a girl 967 00:34:42,216 --> 00:34:45,752 by enlisting your girl friend to call him on the phone. 968 00:34:45,819 --> 00:34:49,923 - No, that was actually just to keep the role going. 969 00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:53,260 So until I got to the question, which I never got to, 970 00:34:53,327 --> 00:34:54,595 I was taking it slow. 971 00:34:54,661 --> 00:34:55,896 - Okay. - I never got to that question. 972 00:34:55,963 --> 00:34:57,531 - But you have in the past 973 00:34:57,598 --> 00:34:58,732 with other guys that you've talked to... 974 00:34:58,799 --> 00:35:00,133 - Yes. - And asked, 975 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,070 "Hey, would you ever think about seeing a guy?" 976 00:35:03,136 --> 00:35:04,905 And in some cases, they said, "Yes"? 977 00:35:04,972 --> 00:35:06,273 - Yes. 978 00:35:06,340 --> 00:35:08,475 - In which case you'd say, "Oh, this is really me," 979 00:35:08,542 --> 00:35:10,310 or, "Oh, you should meet my friend"? 980 00:35:10,377 --> 00:35:12,579 - No, then I'll be like, "Okay, well I have a friend," 981 00:35:12,646 --> 00:35:13,947 and then I send the picture. 982 00:35:14,014 --> 00:35:15,649 - So you never admitted that you were Jesica. 983 00:35:15,716 --> 00:35:17,251 You just sort of shuffled them into-- 984 00:35:17,317 --> 00:35:18,785 - Correct. Correct. 985 00:35:18,852 --> 00:35:21,288 - Okay. Interesting. Okay. So, I mean, it is catfishing. 986 00:35:21,355 --> 00:35:22,656 - It is. - Right. 987 00:35:22,723 --> 00:35:24,558 And you know that's not okay. - Yeah. 988 00:35:24,625 --> 00:35:27,327 But in a way of, like, just to find out 989 00:35:27,394 --> 00:35:28,729 what type of person they are. 990 00:35:28,795 --> 00:35:30,864 - But wouldn't it be faster just to message them 991 00:35:30,931 --> 00:35:32,199 as you and say, like, 992 00:35:32,266 --> 00:35:33,800 "Hey, it was so nice meeting you. 993 00:35:33,867 --> 00:35:35,736 Thanks for the drinks. I had a nice time. 994 00:35:35,802 --> 00:35:37,571 Would love to do it again." - I never said I didn't-- 995 00:35:37,638 --> 00:35:38,939 I didn't never say I didn't do that. 996 00:35:39,006 --> 00:35:40,707 I do do that. - Oh, okay. 997 00:35:40,774 --> 00:35:42,142 - But the ones that I don't add 998 00:35:42,209 --> 00:35:43,710 is the one that I'm sketchy about. 999 00:35:43,777 --> 00:35:45,012 The ones I'm sketchy about, 1000 00:35:45,078 --> 00:35:47,414 then I find out through Jesica first. 1001 00:35:47,481 --> 00:35:49,850 I don't wanna put myself on the spot where I'm afraid 1002 00:35:49,917 --> 00:35:52,986 because of the fact that these people 1003 00:35:53,053 --> 00:35:55,088 are hanging out in the spots that I go to. 1004 00:35:55,155 --> 00:35:58,592 So I'm protecting myself, my identity. 1005 00:35:58,659 --> 00:36:01,261 - Have you had any experiences with guys 1006 00:36:01,328 --> 00:36:03,230 that you were interested in that were negative? 1007 00:36:03,297 --> 00:36:04,531 Were you-- 1008 00:36:04,598 --> 00:36:06,366 - That's why I use Jesica, because I have. 1009 00:36:06,433 --> 00:36:07,668 They started getting nasty. 1010 00:36:07,734 --> 00:36:09,203 Like, "I will [bleep] you up." 1011 00:36:09,269 --> 00:36:11,839 That's when I started using her to protect myself. 1012 00:36:11,905 --> 00:36:13,941 - Mm-hmm. - But why not make 1013 00:36:14,007 --> 00:36:17,644 a fake Instagram of a guy and DM them 1014 00:36:17,711 --> 00:36:19,713 and see if they'll talk to a guy? 1015 00:36:21,682 --> 00:36:23,050 - Okay. - Yeah. 1016 00:36:23,116 --> 00:36:25,185 - A guy that's on the DL is not gonna tell another man, 1017 00:36:25,252 --> 00:36:26,987 especially on Instagram, that they're gay. 1018 00:36:27,054 --> 00:36:29,923 - Interesting. I mean, look, it's come up 1019 00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:32,492 on the show once or twice before. 1020 00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:35,529 - Mm-hmm. - The delicate dance... 1021 00:36:35,596 --> 00:36:36,830 - 'Cause it's definitely delicate. 1022 00:36:36,897 --> 00:36:40,167 - Of a gay man who's interested in men 1023 00:36:40,234 --> 00:36:41,768 who you think present as straight 1024 00:36:41,835 --> 00:36:43,837 who are also into guys. 1025 00:36:43,904 --> 00:36:47,508 And trying to find those guys is tricky. 1026 00:36:48,308 --> 00:36:51,712 - Is this the kink that Raven was referring to? 1027 00:36:51,778 --> 00:36:53,213 - Yes. 1028 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,482 - Any kink is fine as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, 1029 00:36:55,549 --> 00:36:56,917 and it's consensual, 1030 00:36:56,984 --> 00:36:58,886 but the kink that you seem to have 1031 00:36:58,952 --> 00:37:00,654 does not seem to be consensual. 1032 00:37:00,721 --> 00:37:02,256 - How? - It's not consensual 1033 00:37:02,322 --> 00:37:04,858 if you're trying to lure men in with a picture of a girl, 1034 00:37:04,925 --> 00:37:06,860 and then coercing them to hook up with you. 1035 00:37:06,927 --> 00:37:08,228 - The thing is, once I know 1036 00:37:08,295 --> 00:37:09,730 that they're straight, it's over. 1037 00:37:09,796 --> 00:37:11,465 I'm not forcing anyone. I'm not trying to turn anyone. 1038 00:37:11,532 --> 00:37:12,900 I'm not saying like, "Oh, let's hang out 1039 00:37:12,966 --> 00:37:14,201 "with my girlfriend. Let's get drunk 1040 00:37:14,268 --> 00:37:15,802 and see if I can turn him." No. It's over. 1041 00:37:15,869 --> 00:37:17,304 - But Reese isn't bi. 1042 00:37:17,371 --> 00:37:19,006 So your read on him was way off. 1043 00:37:19,072 --> 00:37:21,441 - Right. - I guess the question is, 1044 00:37:21,508 --> 00:37:24,278 how long were you planning on doing this with Reese? 1045 00:37:24,344 --> 00:37:26,813 Like, how long does it usually take you to gauge 1046 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,650 where the guys are at that you're talking to? 1047 00:37:29,716 --> 00:37:32,052 - Usually within, like, a week. Depending on the person, 1048 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:33,120 within, like, a week or two. - So quick. 1049 00:37:33,187 --> 00:37:34,721 - Very quick. - So it did-- 1050 00:37:34,788 --> 00:37:36,190 - With Reese, I couldn't be that quick, 1051 00:37:36,256 --> 00:37:37,758 because I just don't want him to think she was fake. 1052 00:37:37,824 --> 00:37:39,126 I want him to think that she was real, 1053 00:37:39,193 --> 00:37:40,827 so that when I got to that question, 1054 00:37:40,894 --> 00:37:43,130 his answer will be honest. 1055 00:37:43,197 --> 00:37:44,798 - That's the problem, though. 1056 00:37:44,865 --> 00:37:47,868 You let this go on for months, leading him on the whole time. 1057 00:37:47,935 --> 00:37:49,136 That's not okay. 1058 00:37:49,203 --> 00:37:50,904 You have got to stop doing this. 1059 00:37:50,971 --> 00:37:53,173 - I know. I'm sorry. 1060 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:55,642 - You deserve to be with somebody who is not afraid 1061 00:37:55,709 --> 00:37:57,644 to be with you from your own page. 1062 00:37:57,711 --> 00:38:00,247 You deserve to be with somebody who is just as proud 1063 00:38:00,314 --> 00:38:02,716 to be with you as you are to be with them. 1064 00:38:02,783 --> 00:38:05,919 And you shouldn't have to cower behind any kind of fake page 1065 00:38:05,986 --> 00:38:10,090 to get interest from someone. 1066 00:38:10,157 --> 00:38:12,192 But I think that through a little bit more, 1067 00:38:12,259 --> 00:38:14,161 we can find better ways for you to protect yourself. 1068 00:38:14,228 --> 00:38:15,596 - Yes. 1069 00:38:15,662 --> 00:38:18,065 - I mean, honestly, the way you're explaining it, 1070 00:38:18,131 --> 00:38:20,968 at first when I saw you, I was really upset. 1071 00:38:21,034 --> 00:38:23,971 Like, [bleep], like, "This is what I didn't want." 1072 00:38:24,037 --> 00:38:25,572 - And I'm sorry. I understand. 1073 00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:27,741 - You know, but I get it. 1074 00:38:27,808 --> 00:38:29,209 And I'm sorry 1075 00:38:29,276 --> 00:38:31,044 that that's what you have to, you know, deal with. 1076 00:38:31,111 --> 00:38:32,946 I don't agree... - Of course. 1077 00:38:33,013 --> 00:38:35,115 - But I understand, and, you know, 1078 00:38:35,182 --> 00:38:38,051 I just hope that you go about it differently next time. 1079 00:38:38,118 --> 00:38:40,554 And I think you will find-- if you go about it that way, 1080 00:38:40,621 --> 00:38:43,690 I think you'll find what you deserve a lot faster. 1081 00:38:43,757 --> 00:38:45,959 You know, you seem like a cool person, you feel me? 1082 00:38:46,026 --> 00:38:48,328 So, you know, we could go out. We can hang out. 1083 00:38:48,395 --> 00:38:49,630 - Cool. - I want a drink next time. 1084 00:38:49,696 --> 00:38:51,231 - Okay. That's true. - You owe me a drink. 1085 00:38:51,298 --> 00:38:52,566 - You definitely owe him a drink. 1086 00:38:52,633 --> 00:38:54,334 - You owe me a whole night of [bleep] drinks. 1087 00:38:54,401 --> 00:38:55,969 - Yes. I do. For this, I do. - Cool? Shots. 1088 00:38:56,036 --> 00:38:57,204 - I'm sorry. - Shots. 1089 00:38:57,271 --> 00:38:58,972 - I'm so sorry. Shots. - For sure. 1090 00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:00,607 - Thanks for putting yourself out there. 1091 00:39:00,674 --> 00:39:01,909 Thanks for being so understanding 1092 00:39:01,975 --> 00:39:03,110 and nonjudgmental. 1093 00:39:03,177 --> 00:39:05,312 - No, thank you guys for coming in. 1094 00:39:05,379 --> 00:39:07,381 Once again, sorry for wasting your time. 1095 00:39:07,447 --> 00:39:09,216 - Let me--[bleep], I do hugs, man. 1096 00:39:09,283 --> 00:39:10,584 If you need some good energy for yourself. 1097 00:39:10,651 --> 00:39:12,352 - Please. Oh, my God. Thank you so much. 1098 00:39:12,419 --> 00:39:14,121 I'm so sorry. 1099 00:39:14,188 --> 00:39:16,356 - You know, just shoot your shots. 1100 00:39:16,423 --> 00:39:18,425 [laughter] - You are beautiful. 1101 00:39:18,492 --> 00:39:21,461 - So are you. And just be safe. - No, I will. 1102 00:39:21,528 --> 00:39:22,763 - 'Cause I know these streets are scary. 1103 00:39:22,829 --> 00:39:24,198 - Yeah. 1104 00:39:24,264 --> 00:39:25,766 - But there's a lot of people who aren't. 1105 00:39:25,832 --> 00:39:27,634 - Nice meeting you. Nice meeting you. 1106 00:39:27,701 --> 00:39:29,703 - All right, well, should we all get outta here? 1107 00:39:29,770 --> 00:39:31,839 - ♪♪ If you fall ♪♪ 1108 00:39:31,905 --> 00:39:33,106 - You know, I gotta say, 1109 00:39:33,173 --> 00:39:34,441 to put yourself out there, it was brave. 1110 00:39:34,508 --> 00:39:35,876 It took a lot of courage to do this. 1111 00:39:35,943 --> 00:39:37,244 - Thank you. You're so sweet. 1112 00:39:37,311 --> 00:39:38,812 - I think it's gonna help a lot of people. 1113 00:39:38,879 --> 00:39:41,048 - ♪♪ You are not alone ♪♪ 1114 00:39:41,114 --> 00:39:44,051 ♪♪ You are not alone ♪♪ 1115 00:39:44,117 --> 00:39:46,920 [bell dings] all: Hey. 1116 00:39:46,987 --> 00:39:49,056 - Great morning. - Great morning. 1117 00:39:49,122 --> 00:39:50,958 - Great morning. 1118 00:39:51,024 --> 00:39:52,893 - What is there to know about you and Remy? 1119 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,294 Have you guys talked? 1120 00:39:54,361 --> 00:39:56,296 - Yo, listen. We did go out. We hung out. 1121 00:39:56,363 --> 00:39:57,831 All night, he bought my drinks. 1122 00:39:57,898 --> 00:39:59,433 He stuck true to his promise. 1123 00:39:59,499 --> 00:40:01,502 Remy's actually a very, very dope person. 1124 00:40:01,568 --> 00:40:02,669 - Oh, my God. 1125 00:40:02,736 --> 00:40:04,738 So are you dating anybody or what? 1126 00:40:04,805 --> 00:40:06,306 - I actually am. - What? What? 1127 00:40:06,373 --> 00:40:08,208 - Are you in a relationship? - Yeah. 1128 00:40:08,275 --> 00:40:10,544 I took a leap of faith, and I'm still falling. 1129 00:40:10,611 --> 00:40:12,179 - That's great. 1130 00:40:12,246 --> 00:40:14,481 - Maybe Remy catfishing you was exactly what you needed... 1131 00:40:14,548 --> 00:40:15,749 - Mm. 1132 00:40:15,816 --> 00:40:17,751 - To prep you for the real thing. 1133 00:40:17,818 --> 00:40:20,087 - Wow, Nev. I never looked at it like that. 1134 00:40:20,153 --> 00:40:21,755 Damn, I might have to buy you drinks next time. 1135 00:40:21,822 --> 00:40:23,056 - Exactly. - And us obviously. 1136 00:40:23,123 --> 00:40:24,358 - Yeah. - 100,000%. 1137 00:40:24,424 --> 00:40:26,159 - To growth. - Yep. Good luck. 1138 00:40:26,226 --> 00:40:27,394 - Thank you. - Later, bud. 1139 00:40:27,461 --> 00:40:29,162 - Have a good one. Or a great one. 1140 00:40:30,464 --> 00:40:32,065 [bell dings] - How you guys doing? 1141 00:40:32,132 --> 00:40:33,767 - Hey. - Hey. 1142 00:40:33,834 --> 00:40:35,569 - Remy. - We talked to Reese. 1143 00:40:35,636 --> 00:40:37,437 He said that you guys hung out. - Yes. 1144 00:40:37,504 --> 00:40:40,174 I'm so happy that he was open enough to, like, 1145 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:41,642 be able to hang out with me again. 1146 00:40:41,708 --> 00:40:43,010 And he gets chill. 1147 00:40:43,076 --> 00:40:44,378 There is guys out there that are straight 1148 00:40:44,444 --> 00:40:45,779 and don't mind hanging out with a gay boy. 1149 00:40:45,846 --> 00:40:47,581 - Love that. 1150 00:40:47,648 --> 00:40:49,583 - Do you worry in the event that you meet some guy 1151 00:40:49,650 --> 00:40:52,186 that you suspect might be DL, you might still use 1152 00:40:52,252 --> 00:40:54,188 that approach of trying to talk to him as a woman? 1153 00:40:54,254 --> 00:40:56,023 - No. If I'm trying to get someone, 1154 00:40:56,089 --> 00:40:58,225 I will use my profile which is me. 1155 00:40:58,292 --> 00:40:59,893 - That's much better than where we started. 1156 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:01,195 - Yes, of course. 1157 00:41:01,261 --> 00:41:02,963 - Remy, happy this all worked out. 1158 00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:04,298 You guys are now actually friends, 1159 00:41:04,364 --> 00:41:05,966 which is such a--such a win. 1160 00:41:06,033 --> 00:41:08,735 - Yes. But thank you so much, you guys, for everything. 1161 00:41:08,802 --> 00:41:10,771 - And we can't wait to see what's next for Remy. 1162 00:41:10,838 --> 00:41:11,939 - Yeah. - Thank you. 1163 00:41:12,005 --> 00:41:13,273 - Bye. - Bye. 1164 00:41:18,612 --> 00:41:21,048 He claims to be a famous singer. 1165 00:41:21,114 --> 00:41:22,783 - He's really kind and loving. 1166 00:41:22,850 --> 00:41:25,552 - And you FaceTimed, - You are 100% sure... 1167 00:41:25,619 --> 00:41:26,620 - His face? - It was that guy? 1168 00:41:26,687 --> 00:41:28,322 - Yes. - Hi. Can you hear us? 1169 00:41:31,925 --> 00:41:33,994 - This is your last chance. Come on with Zoom. 1170 00:41:34,061 --> 00:41:35,495 Show us who you are. 1171 00:42:08,862 --> 00:42:12,362 - Kimberly has been dating a man named Flavour.