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- Oh, [bleep].
- "My mom, Kimberly,
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"has been dating a man online
named Flavour.
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He claims to be
a famous singer."
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- He's really kind and loving.
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- And you FaceTimed?
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- You are 100% sure
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it was that guy?
- His face?
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- Yes.
- Hi. Can you hear us?
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- This is your last chance.
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Come on the Zoom.
Show us who you are.
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[computer chimes]
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[dramatic musical sting]
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Hey!
- Hello!
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[whoopee cushion toots]
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Ew!
- [laughs]
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- What the--
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- Ew!
all: Ew!
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- Boo!
- I didn't--[stammers]
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- [laughs]
- I fart all the time, so...
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- That's a fact.
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- That's not even,
like, gross for me.
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That's, like, funny.
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- Gotcha.
- I fell for it.
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A classic.
- Yes.
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- Oh, the double was smart.
- We got you.
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- I'm so embarrassed.
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[laughter]
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Okay, let's get into it.
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"Please take the Internet away
from my mom."
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- Oh, [bleep].
- Uh-oh.
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"Nev and Kamie,
my name is Diamond,
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"and I really need your help.
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I'm writing on behalf
of my mom, Kimberly."
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- ♪ It's
uncomfortable territory ♪
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- "She's 52 and lives in
Fayetteville, North Carolina.
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"My mom has a huge heart,
but she keeps getting scammed
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"and hurt by men
on the Internet.
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"I think it's happening again.
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"She's been dating
a man online
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"for the past seven months.
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"He claims to be
some famous singer.
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His name is Flavour."
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- Flavor Flav?
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If it's Flavor Flav...
- Oh, my God.
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- There's no way!
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- "I don't know much
about their relationship,
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"but she's saying
they're in love
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"and want a future together.
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"I know they've never met,
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"and I have a bad feeling
about him.
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"I hope you guys
can sort this out
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and show my mom that sometimes
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"the Internet is not
the place to find love.
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"Please help my mom!
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Diamond."
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Oh, my God.
It's got to be Flavor Flav.
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- [as Flavor Flav]
What time is it?
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- If it's Flavor Flav,
we have got bigger problems.
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- [laughs]
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- Anyway, all right,
we got to help Diamond.
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She gave us her number.
Let's text her.
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"Hey Diamond,
can you Zoom?"
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- What if it is Flavor Flav,
and at the end,
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we get to see Flavor Flav?
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[as Flavor Flav]
You know, Nev,
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this happens to me
all the time.
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That's how he talk.
[phone chimes]
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- Oh, she wrote back.
"Hey, Nev and Kamie.
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Thank you for your help.
Yes, I can Zoom."
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Great.
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[computer chimes]
- Hey!
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- Diamond.
- Hi.
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- What's up?
- Nothing much.
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How are you guys doing?
- Good.
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- Tell us a little bit
about your mom, Kimberly.
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- Well, for starters, she
tends to date online a lot.
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She meets a lot of foreigners,
and they're like,
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"Oh, I just need a couple
of dollars to get to you."
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- So a number of times before,
she's met a guy,
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he's swept her off her feet,
then asks for money,
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and she's sent money?
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- Yes.
- Like, how much?
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- Couple of thousand.
- Wow.
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- But I'm like,
she doesn't seem to get it.
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And I'm guessing,
like, someone else
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has to bring it
to her attention
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because I'm very hard on her.
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- Okay,
the most important question:
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is your mother talking
to Flavor Flav?
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- [laughs]
I hope not,
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but she said
the person's name is Flavour.
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But this person is
from Africa or something,
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so Flavor Flav
is not from Africa.
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- No, he's not.
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- Does she have any idea
that you reached out to us?
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- I told her I would.
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I've threatened her
a couple of times.
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- What if you call her,
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put her on speaker,
and then we can talk to her?
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- Yeah, I'll call her.
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[line trilling]
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- Hey, so remember I told you
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I was sending a email out
to "Catfish"?
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- I have Nev and Kamie here.
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[laughter]
- The people from "Catfish."
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- "Who's Nev and Kamie?"
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- I'm gonna get them
on the phone. Hold on.
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- Hello, Kimberly.
- Hey, Kimberly.
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- How you doing?
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- Well, she knows you've been
talking to this guy, Flavour,
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and was hoping that we could
help connect you guys.
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- Oh.
- You saw his face on camera,
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talking and everything?
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- Wow.
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- And you love him?
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- It's okay.
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- Well, we obviously wanna
help you figure this out.
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- All right, great.
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Well, since Flavour lives
in Africa--
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at least, so he says--
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I think it'd just be easier
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if you could come here
to Los Angeles
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to get international flights
in and out from here.
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Then, obviously,
we could either bring him here,
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or we could go wherever he is.
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- All right,
so we'll see you tomorrow.
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And we will figure this out.
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- All right.
- See ya.
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Don't worry.
She's in good hands.
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- Thank you.
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- Bye, Diamond.
- Bye.
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- Whoa, boy.
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- I'm not ready
to rule this possibility out.
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I mean, she saw him and talked
to him on a video call.
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I think there could be a guy
that she's talking to
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who looks like the guy
in the pictures,
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and maybe there's a chance
something...
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[whines]
- I don't know.
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What I do know is this
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Flavour is leaving a bad taste
in my mouth.
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Boom!
- Wow.
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- Yeah!
- That was fantastic.
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[pensive music]
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- All right.
Let's go get our girl.
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Don't know
what Kimberly looks like,
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so...
- Right.
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- I guess we're just
on the lookout
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for a hopelessly romantic
Black woman in her early 50s?
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- Is that her with her arms
folded right there?
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That is her.
- Oh, okay, you were right.
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- [laughs] The one
who looks like she's upset
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that her daughter
sent her here.
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- All right.
Let's scoop her.
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Kimberly!
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- Hey.
- Hey!
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- [laughs]
I was like, that has to be her.
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How are you?
- How are you?
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You're beautiful.
- Thank you.
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- Oh, my gosh.
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- Welcome to Los Angeles.
- Thank you for having me.
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- All right.
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Let's get you out of here.
- Okay.
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- So we got you set up with
a cute, little place to stay,
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but before we go there,
we thought we'd
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get you a drink,
get you some lunch.
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And then you can tell us
everything about Flavour,
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and we can sort of really
get the lay of the land.
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- That'd be nice.
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- All right.
Let's head on in.
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- Let's go.
- Okay.
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- Let's get some brewskis.
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Hi.
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This is different for us.
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- All right, cheers.
- Cheers.
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Yay!
- Salud.
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- I know we're here
to talk about Flavour.
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That said,
your daughter mentioned to us
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that you've had a series
of guys that you've talked to
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that have somehow
turned out to be scammy.
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- There's just one.
- Okay, so it was one guy.
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- One guy.
- What happened?
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- He was a architect from DC.
- Oh.
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- You met him online?
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- Yes.
- Okay.
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- He had a job in Malaysia,
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and he had
this horrific accident
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while he was there.
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And they needed the money
before they could provide
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any of the medical services
for him.
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- How much did he need?
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- $1,500.
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- Okay.
So what happened?
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- I sent the money.
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And then, he disappeared
after the surgery,
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and then I didn't hear anymore.
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I don't know
if he's alive or dead or not.
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- Hold on a second,
are you aware of the fact
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that what you just described
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is as textbook
[bleep] scam as there is?
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Right?
- Well, I didn't know.
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- But, like, in retrospect,
you're conscious of that.
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- Right.
- Right.
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So how did you meet Flavour?
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- We met on Instagram.
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He just went in my mailbox,
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or whatever you call it.
- He slid in?
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- He slid in my DM.
- Wow, yeah.
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- It was just like,
"Hello. How are you?"
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And then, he explained who he
was and that I was beautiful.
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- So out of nowhere,
you get a "hello,
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how are you?"
- Yes.
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- And you guys start
messaging in Instagram?
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- Well, he suggested
we get on WhatsApp.
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- So you switched to WhatsApp,
and you start texting.
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- Yes, and call. We call.
- Do you talk--oh.
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You call him, he calls you?
- He does most of the calling.
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- You guys talk
on the phone a lot?
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- A few times a week.
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- Wow, that's a lot.
- That's a lot.
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But when he talks to you,
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he has an accent?
- Yes.
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- What are those calls like,
usually?
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- We talk about religion
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and, you know,
what he's working on.
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They're pretty flirty.
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- How flirty are we talking?
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- Like adult flirty.
- Oh!
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- Uh-huh.
- R or X?
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- Right, plead the fifth.
Plead the fifth.
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Drink to that.
- [laughs]
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- Amen.
- What's he like?
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- He's really kind and loving,
attentive.
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He's caring.
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I like the fact that
he's a single parent.
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He's being very responsible
in that aspect,
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and I respect that.
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- What about the L word?
You guys--
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- Yeah, we've said
we love each other. Yes.
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- Are you in love with him?
- I am.
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We're in a relationship. I'm
not seeing anyone else, so...
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- So it's official.
- It's official.
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- What about this FaceTime call
that you said you had?
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- Oh, it was pretty short.
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- He called you?
- He called me.
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- FaceTime?
- On WhatsApp.
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- Oh, okay, on WhatsApp.
- Mm.
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- It was only two minutes
because it kept buffering...
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and cutting out.
- Okay.
249
00:08:54,535 --> 00:08:57,702
- But it did work enough
for you to confirm,
250
00:08:57,771 --> 00:08:59,271
for yourself, like,
oh, this is him.
251
00:08:59,339 --> 00:09:02,007
- That's him, yeah.
- Same voice on the phone?
252
00:09:02,075 --> 00:09:03,608
Same guy in the picture?
- Same in the video.
253
00:09:03,677 --> 00:09:04,709
- Like, him?
254
00:09:04,778 --> 00:09:06,444
Well, that's good news.
- Yeah.
255
00:09:06,513 --> 00:09:09,915
- Has Flavour ever asked you
to maybe help financially?
256
00:09:09,983 --> 00:09:11,950
- Yes, there was one time
257
00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:14,185
he asked for some stream card
or something--
258
00:09:14,254 --> 00:09:16,855
I don't know what it was--
to download some music.
259
00:09:16,924 --> 00:09:18,823
I said, "Tell your management
to get it.
260
00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:20,191
You know, I'm not doing that."
261
00:09:20,260 --> 00:09:21,760
- Oh, well,
can we see his Instagram?
262
00:09:21,828 --> 00:09:22,861
- Sure.
- Can you show us
263
00:09:22,930 --> 00:09:24,663
what this guy is all about?
264
00:09:24,731 --> 00:09:26,932
All right, so it says,
"King of Africa music.
265
00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,233
"Songwriter, producer,
guitarist,
266
00:09:28,302 --> 00:09:29,434
live performing dancer."
267
00:09:29,503 --> 00:09:33,405
- Why doesn't he have,
like, official Flavour--
268
00:09:33,473 --> 00:09:34,673
- I don't know.
- All right.
269
00:09:34,741 --> 00:09:36,875
And can we see
some of your messages?
270
00:09:36,944 --> 00:09:38,243
- Those are our messages.
271
00:09:38,312 --> 00:09:39,544
- Oh, okay,
let's take a look here.
272
00:09:39,613 --> 00:09:40,679
All right.
Let's see what we got.
273
00:09:40,747 --> 00:09:42,581
Okay, so out of nowhere,
you get a "hello."
274
00:09:42,649 --> 00:09:43,782
You said, "Good morning."
275
00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:45,550
"My name is Chinedu...
276
00:09:45,619 --> 00:09:49,888
"popularly known as Flavour
Nabania as my stage name.
277
00:09:49,957 --> 00:09:51,723
"I'm from Nigeria,
though sometimes
278
00:09:51,792 --> 00:09:53,191
"I travel out for my shows.
279
00:09:53,260 --> 00:09:54,526
I admire your beautiful look."
280
00:09:54,595 --> 00:09:58,396
So you talked
on Instagram audio a bunch.
281
00:09:58,465 --> 00:09:59,531
He kept saying,
"Get WhatsApp."
282
00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,099
- He said,
"Get it because of me.
283
00:10:01,168 --> 00:10:03,768
My management monitor
moves here."
284
00:10:03,837 --> 00:10:05,570
- Oh, so he was worried
285
00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:08,473
that, like,
his manager would see his IG.
286
00:10:08,542 --> 00:10:10,442
- He's always worried about his
management. I'm like, so what?
287
00:10:10,510 --> 00:10:11,943
- So you finally did
get on WhatsApp?
288
00:10:12,012 --> 00:10:13,244
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay, and let's just see.
289
00:10:13,313 --> 00:10:15,347
I want to see your messages
with him.
290
00:10:15,415 --> 00:10:16,581
Oh, there's a lot.
291
00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:19,417
Lots of kisses, babes.
292
00:10:19,486 --> 00:10:21,987
- "Babe, can you please
get me an iTunes card?"
293
00:10:22,055 --> 00:10:24,022
- Well, that's
what the stream card is,
294
00:10:24,091 --> 00:10:25,890
or the iTune or whatever.
295
00:10:25,959 --> 00:10:28,360
That's
what I was talking about.
296
00:10:28,428 --> 00:10:30,228
- Then you said, "It's not
polite to ask women for money."
297
00:10:30,297 --> 00:10:31,363
- It isn't.
- And then, he said,
298
00:10:31,431 --> 00:10:33,431
"Babe, I'm in need of it,
my love."
299
00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:35,000
You said, Where's your
management? That's their job."
300
00:10:35,068 --> 00:10:36,735
- I'm gonna be
completely honest with you.
301
00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:40,038
I feel like I am bursting
at the seams right now
302
00:10:40,107 --> 00:10:42,774
to tell you that this guy
303
00:10:42,843 --> 00:10:45,076
is not the guy you think
that you are talking to.
304
00:10:45,145 --> 00:10:47,912
Flavour's not talking to you
from some account that he has
305
00:10:47,981 --> 00:10:49,948
that his management
"has access to."
306
00:10:50,017 --> 00:10:52,450
- But you did talk to Flavour
on FaceTime.
307
00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:54,653
- I did.
- So that's what's so crazy.
308
00:10:54,721 --> 00:10:56,855
- I would need
to see a screenshot.
309
00:10:56,923 --> 00:10:58,723
- You are 100% sure
310
00:10:58,792 --> 00:11:00,258
it was that guy?
- His face?
311
00:11:00,327 --> 00:11:03,495
- It was his face
and his voice.
312
00:11:03,563 --> 00:11:05,597
And, you know,
we had a conversation.
313
00:11:05,666 --> 00:11:08,099
- Wow.
Okay, so obviously,
314
00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:11,569
there is a lot about Flavour
that seems legit,
315
00:11:11,638 --> 00:11:14,239
but there's also a lot
that's suspicious.
316
00:11:14,307 --> 00:11:16,374
- Right.
- Which parts seem legit?
317
00:11:16,443 --> 00:11:18,276
- Well, I don't--
she says she saw him
318
00:11:18,345 --> 00:11:19,844
and talked to him
on a video call.
319
00:11:19,913 --> 00:11:22,347
So I'm not sure, obviously,
which way this is gonna go.
320
00:11:22,416 --> 00:11:25,316
I'd like to, whoever it is...
- Who are you?
321
00:11:25,385 --> 00:11:26,751
- Get you in front of them,
322
00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:28,787
either physically
or at least digitally,
323
00:11:28,855 --> 00:11:30,455
to sort of get some answers.
324
00:11:30,524 --> 00:11:31,690
- Join the club.
- Yeah.
325
00:11:31,758 --> 00:11:32,991
[laughter]
326
00:11:33,060 --> 00:11:34,392
So here's
what I think we should do.
327
00:11:34,461 --> 00:11:35,860
Let's crack this case.
328
00:11:35,929 --> 00:11:37,962
You should go back
to your Airbnb.
329
00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:39,931
Send us an email
with the pictures he sent,
330
00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,366
his email,
whatever information you have.
331
00:11:41,435 --> 00:11:43,068
And I think we should go back
to the office right now
332
00:11:43,136 --> 00:11:44,969
and see what we can find out
about this guy.
333
00:11:45,038 --> 00:11:46,738
- Well, thank you.
- Of course.
334
00:11:46,807 --> 00:11:48,106
- Don't thank us yet
335
00:11:48,175 --> 00:11:50,542
'cause this Flavour seems
a little fishy.
336
00:11:53,647 --> 00:11:56,581
- Hmm! Let's do it!
337
00:11:56,650 --> 00:11:57,682
[farts]
338
00:11:57,751 --> 00:11:59,684
- You did not just cropdust me.
339
00:11:59,753 --> 00:12:01,853
- You walked right into it.
- You bastard!
340
00:12:01,922 --> 00:12:03,555
- You could have turned back.
341
00:12:03,623 --> 00:12:06,324
- I don't like the direction
our relationship is going in.
342
00:12:06,393 --> 00:12:07,892
You're so annoying.
- Well, after you pranked me
343
00:12:07,961 --> 00:12:09,694
with the whoopee cushion
earlier, I had to get you back
344
00:12:09,763 --> 00:12:11,763
with a real fart.
- That's disgusting.
345
00:12:11,832 --> 00:12:12,864
You sicko.
346
00:12:12,933 --> 00:12:14,399
[whoopee cushion toots]
[laughter]
347
00:12:14,468 --> 00:12:16,901
[bleep] you.
I am done!
348
00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:19,237
- [laughs]
- I am done!
349
00:12:19,306 --> 00:12:21,506
Stop bothering me!
350
00:12:21,575 --> 00:12:23,408
- It was so good.
- Leave me alone.
351
00:12:23,477 --> 00:12:25,710
Don't get up!
- Aah!
352
00:12:25,779 --> 00:12:27,045
Oh, that's good.
353
00:12:27,114 --> 00:12:29,047
Good, old-fashioned jokes.
354
00:12:29,116 --> 00:12:30,348
- Grow up.
355
00:12:30,417 --> 00:12:32,217
- All right, Kimberly--
356
00:12:32,285 --> 00:12:33,852
out of nowhere,
she gets a DM
357
00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,722
from some random guy
named Flavour from Nigeria.
358
00:12:37,791 --> 00:12:39,357
- Give me a [bleep] break.
- Once in a while,
359
00:12:39,426 --> 00:12:42,861
he'll ask her to send some sort
of gift card, but she doesn't.
360
00:12:42,929 --> 00:12:44,362
But he continues talking
to her.
361
00:12:44,431 --> 00:12:46,131
They did videochat once,
362
00:12:46,199 --> 00:12:49,400
and she swears they were
having a conversation,
363
00:12:49,469 --> 00:12:51,870
albeit short,
where she could see him.
364
00:12:51,938 --> 00:12:53,404
And that was enough
to convince her
365
00:12:53,473 --> 00:12:55,473
that it is really that guy.
- No.
366
00:12:55,542 --> 00:12:58,176
I want for you to Google
right now the official
367
00:12:58,245 --> 00:13:00,278
Flavour's Instagram.
- All right, let's see.
368
00:13:00,347 --> 00:13:01,379
Let's get into it.
- Please.
369
00:13:01,448 --> 00:13:04,315
- "Flavour Nigerian musician."
370
00:13:04,384 --> 00:13:06,451
Okay, so here's the guy.
371
00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,852
- "2niteflavour."
372
00:13:07,921 --> 00:13:10,755
That's definitely not the
Instagram Kimberly has for him.
373
00:13:10,824 --> 00:13:11,756
Wow, look at that--
374
00:13:11,825 --> 00:13:14,225
4.7 million followers...
- Right.
375
00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:17,562
That was very easy.
- With a verified checkmark.
376
00:13:17,631 --> 00:13:19,597
- Right, right.
- Come on now.
377
00:13:19,666 --> 00:13:22,567
- All right, he is, in fact,
a famous singer.
378
00:13:22,636 --> 00:13:24,769
Here's the Instagram she has.
379
00:13:24,838 --> 00:13:27,338
Who would have the balls
to say,
380
00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:30,275
"I'm Flavour,
a famous singer from Nigeria,"
381
00:13:30,343 --> 00:13:35,079
when one Google search finds
that there is a real Flavour?
382
00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:38,016
- I think Kimberly
doesn't have Google.
383
00:13:38,084 --> 00:13:40,118
[laughter]
384
00:13:40,187 --> 00:13:41,753
Because...
385
00:13:41,822 --> 00:13:43,655
- Wait, let's go back.
Here's her email.
386
00:13:43,723 --> 00:13:45,023
She says, "Hey, Nev and Kamie.
Thank you.
387
00:13:45,091 --> 00:13:46,524
This is what I know
about Flavour."
388
00:13:46,593 --> 00:13:48,860
His number on WhatsApp,
his Instagram.
389
00:13:48,929 --> 00:13:51,763
We already know he's
not the guy in the pictures.
390
00:13:51,832 --> 00:13:54,332
All right, let's just look
through his pictures
391
00:13:54,401 --> 00:13:56,601
and see if anyone's
made any comments.
392
00:13:56,670 --> 00:13:58,803
Okay.
Kuburat.
393
00:13:58,872 --> 00:14:00,872
[tense music]
394
00:14:00,941 --> 00:14:02,874
Kuburat.
395
00:14:02,943 --> 00:14:06,377
Oh. Oh, here's Kuburat again
with a comment.
396
00:14:06,446 --> 00:14:09,547
"Thank you for the opportunity.
I'm blessed."
397
00:14:09,616 --> 00:14:10,682
- What opportunity?
398
00:14:10,750 --> 00:14:12,050
- Should we message Kuburat
399
00:14:12,118 --> 00:14:13,918
and just see what they know?
400
00:14:13,987 --> 00:14:15,220
- For sure.
401
00:14:15,288 --> 00:14:17,522
- I'll just say,
"Hello, my name is Nev.
402
00:14:17,591 --> 00:14:21,526
We would love
to speak with you."
403
00:14:21,595 --> 00:14:22,694
I mean, here's my question.
404
00:14:22,762 --> 00:14:24,028
If we show Kimberly this,
405
00:14:24,097 --> 00:14:25,496
is she gonna say, like,
"Oh, yeah, see?"
406
00:14:25,565 --> 00:14:27,799
- Mm-hmm.
- "He is really famous
407
00:14:27,868 --> 00:14:29,234
and does have a busy life."
408
00:14:29,302 --> 00:14:31,536
- How are we going to
convince her that it's not him?
409
00:14:31,605 --> 00:14:34,706
- Should we try to get the real
guy to just send us a video?
410
00:14:34,774 --> 00:14:36,407
- Yeah.
- All right.
411
00:14:36,476 --> 00:14:41,813
"Hey, Flavour, it appears
someone is impersonating you."
412
00:14:41,882 --> 00:14:43,648
All right,
so we've now messaged
413
00:14:43,717 --> 00:14:45,717
two people in Nigeria.
- Mm-hmm.
414
00:14:45,785 --> 00:14:48,820
- I just--I'm still so hung up
on that video call.
415
00:14:48,889 --> 00:14:50,655
- Mm-hmm.
- She was so convinced!
416
00:14:50,724 --> 00:14:52,223
- Oh, somebody's calling us.
- What?
417
00:14:52,292 --> 00:14:54,425
- WhatsApp.
[phone ringing]
418
00:14:54,494 --> 00:14:55,526
- Hello?
419
00:14:57,097 --> 00:14:58,162
- Good morning.
420
00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,034
- Yes, we were hoping
you could tell us--
421
00:15:03,103 --> 00:15:06,838
how do you know Flavour,
the singer?
422
00:15:08,475 --> 00:15:10,842
- Oh, his assistant.
Oh, wow.
423
00:15:10,911 --> 00:15:14,279
Have you met him,
or you just work for him,
424
00:15:14,347 --> 00:15:16,247
you know,
through the Internet?
425
00:15:18,451 --> 00:15:22,086
- But do you see him and
meet with him face to face?
426
00:15:24,958 --> 00:15:25,990
- No. Okay.
427
00:15:26,059 --> 00:15:28,192
So is he paying you?
428
00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:29,193
- Okay.
429
00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:31,429
Has he paid you yet?
430
00:15:31,498 --> 00:15:33,698
- Hi.
This is Kamie.
431
00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:37,869
- Hi. Did he hire you
from his Instagram?
432
00:15:42,208 --> 00:15:44,909
- Okay. Can you tell us
what's his Instagram?
433
00:15:46,646 --> 00:15:48,212
- Two? Okay.
434
00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:50,782
What's one of the names
of the Instagram?
435
00:15:52,552 --> 00:15:55,553
- Okay, and the other one is--
436
00:15:57,524 --> 00:15:59,424
- Why does he have two?
437
00:16:03,897 --> 00:16:08,566
- We're trying to help a woman
in the United States.
438
00:16:08,635 --> 00:16:11,669
We're worried that
she's being lied to,
439
00:16:11,738 --> 00:16:14,806
and I'm also worried
that you're being lied to.
440
00:16:18,244 --> 00:16:20,745
- But how do you know
it's really Flavour?
441
00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:25,850
- You mean you met him
on videochat?
442
00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:33,424
- Okay, well, thank you so much
for your help.
443
00:16:35,028 --> 00:16:36,327
- Bye.
444
00:16:38,098 --> 00:16:39,530
- I'm so confused.
445
00:16:39,599 --> 00:16:42,800
Somehow, whoever is
catfishing Kimberly
446
00:16:42,869 --> 00:16:45,336
has also convinced
this other woman
447
00:16:45,405 --> 00:16:46,938
to be his personal assistant.
448
00:16:47,007 --> 00:16:50,174
For all we know, some guy that
somehow looks like him enough
449
00:16:50,243 --> 00:16:52,010
is convincing these women
that it's him.
450
00:16:52,078 --> 00:16:53,644
[sighs]
451
00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:58,082
Maybe someone who does
actually work for Flavour
452
00:16:58,151 --> 00:17:03,588
made this fake account and
uses it to, like, scam women
453
00:17:03,656 --> 00:17:06,691
because he has access
to the real Flavour.
454
00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,192
I know.
It's a stretch.
455
00:17:08,261 --> 00:17:09,794
I'm just trying to come up
456
00:17:09,863 --> 00:17:11,896
with something
that makes any sense.
457
00:17:11,965 --> 00:17:13,865
- Well, if this is someone that
works for the real Flavour,
458
00:17:13,933 --> 00:17:16,234
they need to be fired.
459
00:17:16,302 --> 00:17:19,070
- All I know is that
this whole Flavour situation
460
00:17:19,139 --> 00:17:20,805
just got a lot spicier.
461
00:17:22,809 --> 00:17:25,943
- We are going to have
to convince Kimberly
462
00:17:26,012 --> 00:17:29,313
that she is not talking to who
she thinks she's talking to.
463
00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:31,149
- Yeah.
Like, come on.
464
00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:34,185
At some point, you have
to realize that you're being
465
00:17:34,254 --> 00:17:35,987
taken advantage of.
- Yeah.
466
00:17:36,056 --> 00:17:38,122
Okay. Shall we?
- Yeah.
467
00:17:38,191 --> 00:17:39,757
[dramatic music]
468
00:17:39,826 --> 00:17:40,992
- Oh, yeah.
- Wow!
469
00:17:41,061 --> 00:17:41,993
- This is nice.
- How are you?
470
00:17:42,062 --> 00:17:43,294
- Hi.
- Great morning.
471
00:17:43,363 --> 00:17:45,663
- Good to see you.
- Great morning.
472
00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:46,931
- This is lovely.
- Cute.
473
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,734
- All right.
So how are you feeling?
474
00:17:49,803 --> 00:17:52,570
- I'm nervous just to see
475
00:17:52,639 --> 00:17:55,773
if you found anything...
interesting.
476
00:17:55,842 --> 00:17:56,941
- All right.
Well, look.
477
00:17:57,010 --> 00:17:58,843
We have some things to discuss,
478
00:17:58,912 --> 00:18:01,446
so why don't we just dive in?
- Okay.
479
00:18:01,514 --> 00:18:04,182
- The first thing we did was
we said, okay, who is this guy?
480
00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:05,416
He says he's a famous singer.
481
00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:07,285
Surely we can find him, right?
482
00:18:07,353 --> 00:18:08,920
And sure enough, he is,
483
00:18:08,988 --> 00:18:10,855
but this is not the page
you've been looking at.
484
00:18:10,924 --> 00:18:13,691
This is
his actual verified page.
485
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,526
And he's got
almost 5 million followers.
486
00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:17,528
- Oh, my.
487
00:18:17,597 --> 00:18:19,030
Oh, my gosh.
488
00:18:19,099 --> 00:18:21,999
- Had you just Googled him,
you would have found this too,
489
00:18:22,068 --> 00:18:23,134
I mean, 'cause this is just
490
00:18:23,203 --> 00:18:25,203
very available,
public information.
491
00:18:25,271 --> 00:18:26,871
- I don't have time
to be looking, but--
492
00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:28,005
- What?
493
00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:29,207
- Because I take people
at their word.
494
00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:30,374
- But, like--okay.
495
00:18:30,443 --> 00:18:31,709
Who is your favorite singer?
496
00:18:31,778 --> 00:18:32,977
- Beyoncé, of course.
- Beyoncé.
497
00:18:33,046 --> 00:18:34,078
Okay, so Beyoncé.
498
00:18:34,147 --> 00:18:35,980
So you know
Beyoncé has Instagram,
499
00:18:36,049 --> 00:18:37,815
and she has
a verified checkmark.
500
00:18:37,884 --> 00:18:39,650
That is Beyoncé's page.
501
00:18:39,719 --> 00:18:44,822
Now if BeyHive555 DMs you
502
00:18:44,891 --> 00:18:46,390
and says,
"Hey, it's Beyoncé.
503
00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,326
I'm talking to you
from this page,"
504
00:18:48,394 --> 00:18:49,894
what would you think?
505
00:18:49,963 --> 00:18:50,995
- Whatever.
506
00:18:51,064 --> 00:18:52,663
"Well, what you need, girl?
507
00:18:52,732 --> 00:18:54,165
What you need?"
508
00:18:54,234 --> 00:18:55,800
- Kimberly...
509
00:18:55,869 --> 00:18:57,502
There is no way!
510
00:18:57,570 --> 00:18:58,936
- I'm telling you,
I'm not into this.
511
00:18:59,005 --> 00:19:00,238
- I don't think there's
anything we can do for you.
512
00:19:00,306 --> 00:19:01,772
[laughter]
- What do you mean?
513
00:19:01,841 --> 00:19:04,375
- Okay.
- I think we should go.
514
00:19:04,444 --> 00:19:06,511
- I don't know
what we can do for you!
515
00:19:06,579 --> 00:19:08,012
- So...
516
00:19:08,081 --> 00:19:09,680
- I love your optimism.
517
00:19:09,749 --> 00:19:11,215
- You just...
518
00:19:11,284 --> 00:19:13,518
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful to see.
519
00:19:13,586 --> 00:19:15,353
- But again,
you understand the odds
520
00:19:15,421 --> 00:19:19,056
of this superstar
Nigerian singer-songwriter
521
00:19:19,125 --> 00:19:20,458
hitting you up--
522
00:19:20,527 --> 00:19:24,462
- I didn't even know what
the capacity of his fame was.
523
00:19:24,531 --> 00:19:25,763
- But now that you do,
524
00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:27,632
do you still think
you're talking to this guy?
525
00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:30,568
[suspenseful music]
526
00:19:30,637 --> 00:19:32,370
- I don't think so.
- Okay.
527
00:19:32,438 --> 00:19:35,373
[solemn music]
528
00:19:35,441 --> 00:19:36,707
♪ ♪
529
00:19:36,776 --> 00:19:38,809
- [emotionally]
I got duped again.
530
00:19:41,314 --> 00:19:44,115
- Why do you think
you got duped again?
531
00:19:44,184 --> 00:19:47,418
- Because I give everybody
the benefit of the doubt.
532
00:19:47,487 --> 00:19:49,954
But I learned another lesson.
533
00:19:50,023 --> 00:19:51,989
It's sad, but it's true.
534
00:19:52,058 --> 00:19:53,524
- Especially
if you have a kind heart
535
00:19:53,593 --> 00:19:55,092
and you're a good person,
536
00:19:55,161 --> 00:19:57,628
people will take
full advantage.
537
00:19:57,697 --> 00:20:00,097
- Why would you do that?
Like, what is your problem?
538
00:20:00,166 --> 00:20:01,432
- Mm-hmm.
- You know?
539
00:20:01,501 --> 00:20:03,834
Like, this is
absolutely unnecessary.
540
00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:05,903
[clicks tongue]
So...
541
00:20:05,972 --> 00:20:10,308
- Well, to completely confirm,
I did DM the real Flavour.
542
00:20:10,376 --> 00:20:11,576
And I'm waiting to see
if he'll write back.
543
00:20:11,644 --> 00:20:13,177
So far, he hasn't.
544
00:20:13,246 --> 00:20:14,245
- Did he open it?
545
00:20:14,314 --> 00:20:16,747
- Mm, no.
546
00:20:16,816 --> 00:20:18,683
So the last thing
that we did was
547
00:20:18,751 --> 00:20:21,519
we went through the page
that you are friends with.
548
00:20:21,588 --> 00:20:23,087
Not a lot of people
leave comments,
549
00:20:23,156 --> 00:20:25,156
but one person did
leave one comment.
550
00:20:25,225 --> 00:20:27,191
So we messaged this person.
551
00:20:27,260 --> 00:20:28,960
She called us.
552
00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:31,028
A young woman's voice came on,
553
00:20:31,097 --> 00:20:35,199
speaking English
but clearly from Nigeria.
554
00:20:35,268 --> 00:20:37,301
And we asked her,
"Oh, hey, you know,
555
00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:40,004
we saw that you're friends
with 'Flavour.'"
556
00:20:40,073 --> 00:20:43,174
And she said,
"He recently gave me a job
557
00:20:43,243 --> 00:20:45,343
as his personal assistant."
558
00:20:45,411 --> 00:20:47,011
And I said,
"Well, have you been paid?"
559
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,180
She said, "Well, not yet
'cause I just started."
560
00:20:49,249 --> 00:20:52,250
So it sounds like somebody
has this poor girl believing
561
00:20:52,318 --> 00:20:54,285
that
she's his personal assistant.
562
00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:57,989
And considering that he asked
you to help him financially,
563
00:20:58,057 --> 00:20:59,490
like,
maybe there are other people,
564
00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:03,861
and maybe this is part
of an elaborate, larger scam.
565
00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:06,664
So who's running that account?
566
00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:08,199
- The only thing that I have
567
00:21:08,268 --> 00:21:11,302
is that I did see him
on that videochat.
568
00:21:11,371 --> 00:21:16,374
- You are certain the person
on that call was this guy?
569
00:21:16,442 --> 00:21:18,376
- Unless he has a twin...
- Okay.
570
00:21:18,444 --> 00:21:21,545
- Or someone that looks
very, very similar to him.
571
00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:24,649
- Okay, if you're so sure
572
00:21:24,717 --> 00:21:27,885
that you videochatted with him,
573
00:21:27,954 --> 00:21:29,520
you'd presumably
have to be talking
574
00:21:29,589 --> 00:21:31,756
to someone
who has access to him,
575
00:21:31,824 --> 00:21:35,860
'cause how else would they
get a phone in his hands
576
00:21:35,928 --> 00:21:37,261
to talk to you?
577
00:21:39,265 --> 00:21:41,666
- That's the only thing.
The videos got me tripping.
578
00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:44,835
- Yeah, so all of this
brings us to the now.
579
00:21:44,904 --> 00:21:47,338
The only thing left to do
would be to message him.
580
00:21:47,407 --> 00:21:49,040
- I think so.
- All right.
581
00:21:49,108 --> 00:21:51,676
"Hello, this is Nev
from the MTV show, 'Catfish.'
582
00:21:51,744 --> 00:21:52,777
"I'd love to speak with you
583
00:21:52,845 --> 00:21:54,078
"about your relationship
with Kimberly.
584
00:21:54,147 --> 00:21:55,513
"Please get back to me
as soon as you can.
585
00:21:55,581 --> 00:21:57,381
Thanks."
All right.
586
00:21:57,450 --> 00:21:59,850
- He probably won't respond.
587
00:21:59,919 --> 00:22:01,085
- [gasps] He read it.
- Ooh!
588
00:22:01,154 --> 00:22:02,553
Oh, that double check means
he's read it?
589
00:22:02,622 --> 00:22:03,954
- Mm-hmm.
590
00:22:04,023 --> 00:22:05,556
Typing.
- Oh!
591
00:22:05,625 --> 00:22:07,758
- Typing, typing.
- Oh!
592
00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:10,061
He said, "Hello."
Okay.
593
00:22:10,129 --> 00:22:13,230
Oh! He said,
"What's wrong?"
594
00:22:13,299 --> 00:22:15,366
[ominous music]
595
00:22:15,435 --> 00:22:18,069
- Aah.
- Everything's wrong, babe.
596
00:22:18,137 --> 00:22:23,441
- "We know
that you and Kimberly
597
00:22:23,509 --> 00:22:27,578
"have been talking for a while.
598
00:22:27,647 --> 00:22:30,948
"Would you be available
599
00:22:31,017 --> 00:22:36,020
to do a video call?"
600
00:22:36,089 --> 00:22:38,756
Oh! He says, "I can video call
for a second."
601
00:22:38,825 --> 00:22:40,624
Okay.
602
00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:44,328
- What did I get myself into?
603
00:22:44,397 --> 00:22:45,596
- It's okay.
604
00:22:45,665 --> 00:22:48,799
[suspenseful music]
605
00:22:48,868 --> 00:22:51,335
My God,
the suspense is killing me.
606
00:22:51,404 --> 00:22:52,336
Oh!
607
00:22:52,405 --> 00:22:55,406
[phone chiming]
608
00:22:55,475 --> 00:22:56,941
Should we answer it?
- Yes.
609
00:22:57,009 --> 00:22:58,175
- Open it.
610
00:22:58,244 --> 00:23:01,011
♪ ♪
611
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,279
- Hello?
- What?
612
00:23:04,751 --> 00:23:06,350
[suspenseful music]
613
00:23:06,419 --> 00:23:09,086
- My God,
the suspense is killing me.
614
00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:10,087
Oh!
615
00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:13,324
[phone chiming]
616
00:23:13,393 --> 00:23:14,658
Should we answer it?
- Yes.
617
00:23:14,727 --> 00:23:18,396
♪ ♪
618
00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:19,430
- Hello?
619
00:23:19,499 --> 00:23:20,498
- [gasps]
620
00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:22,666
- Hello.
621
00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:24,235
Hello?
- How are you?
622
00:23:26,639 --> 00:23:27,671
- Hold on.
623
00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:33,844
Chile, that is more
than just a bad connection.
624
00:23:33,913 --> 00:23:35,980
- Uh, he--oh!
625
00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:37,681
Oh, my God.
626
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:39,016
Is that similar
to what it looked like
627
00:23:39,085 --> 00:23:40,518
when you spoke to him before?
- Mm-hmm.
628
00:23:40,586 --> 00:23:42,119
- All right,
so what he just did
629
00:23:42,188 --> 00:23:44,955
was he found a video
of the real guy,
630
00:23:45,024 --> 00:23:47,491
and he just literally
was filming the screen.
631
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,127
I could see
the screen, like, moving.
632
00:23:50,196 --> 00:23:52,229
- Wow.
- The audacity.
633
00:23:52,298 --> 00:23:53,798
He's typing.
- Oh!
634
00:23:53,866 --> 00:23:55,099
- Tell him to save it.
635
00:23:55,168 --> 00:23:57,067
[phone dings]
636
00:23:57,136 --> 00:23:58,803
- He says,
"I have a bad network here."
637
00:23:58,871 --> 00:24:00,104
- No, you're bad.
638
00:24:00,173 --> 00:24:02,540
- That was the same video
he called me with.
639
00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:04,475
- It was the same video?
640
00:24:04,544 --> 00:24:06,977
- If I'm not mistaken,
I think it is.
641
00:24:08,147 --> 00:24:09,280
- It's okay.
642
00:24:09,348 --> 00:24:10,481
Live and learn.
Live and learn.
643
00:24:12,552 --> 00:24:14,919
[phone dings]
Oh!
644
00:24:14,987 --> 00:24:17,621
"I didn't know
she had doubts about me."
645
00:24:19,592 --> 00:24:23,461
Clearly, he is standing strong.
646
00:24:23,529 --> 00:24:25,095
- He's committed to the lie.
647
00:24:25,164 --> 00:24:26,630
- So what do you wanna do?
648
00:24:26,699 --> 00:24:28,599
- Fry that fish, please.
649
00:24:28,668 --> 00:24:30,000
Hard.
650
00:24:30,069 --> 00:24:32,503
Hard as you can fry it.
- Okay.
651
00:24:32,572 --> 00:24:34,104
"We know you're not
the real Flavour
652
00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:36,640
"and that was just a video
from your computer.
653
00:24:36,709 --> 00:24:39,143
"You can't lie to us
or Kimberly anymore.
654
00:24:39,212 --> 00:24:43,814
Would you like to try
telling us the truth?"
655
00:24:43,883 --> 00:24:47,117
- Just man up
and tell the truth.
656
00:24:47,186 --> 00:24:50,087
[pensive music]
657
00:24:50,156 --> 00:24:53,691
♪ ♪
658
00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:56,160
- I don't know if
he's not planning on responding
659
00:24:56,229 --> 00:24:57,628
or if he's
intentionally ignoring us,
660
00:24:57,697 --> 00:25:00,030
but I think, for the moment,
it looks like
661
00:25:00,099 --> 00:25:03,100
"Flavour" is taking
his sweet-ass time.
662
00:25:03,169 --> 00:25:05,002
- Mm-hmm.
663
00:25:05,071 --> 00:25:07,338
- All right, so what do we do?
- Yeah, I mean, look.
664
00:25:07,406 --> 00:25:08,873
The ball's now in his court,
665
00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:12,309
so let's let him sit on it,
let him think.
666
00:25:12,378 --> 00:25:13,811
In the meantime,
we can all grab lunch,
667
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,079
do whatever you wanna do.
668
00:25:15,147 --> 00:25:18,115
And if we hear something,
you hear something,
669
00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:20,217
let us know, and we'll
just regroup in a little bit.
670
00:25:20,286 --> 00:25:21,285
- Okay.
- Does that work?
671
00:25:21,354 --> 00:25:22,653
- That works for me.
672
00:25:22,722 --> 00:25:24,989
- All right.
673
00:25:25,057 --> 00:25:27,324
- Thank you so much.
- I'll speak to you soon.
674
00:25:27,393 --> 00:25:29,326
- Thank you.
- Of course.
675
00:25:32,698 --> 00:25:33,764
Poor Kimberly.
676
00:25:33,833 --> 00:25:36,534
- [sighs]
I know.
677
00:25:36,602 --> 00:25:37,868
- Well, we had to tell her.
678
00:25:37,937 --> 00:25:39,503
Like, she has
to know these things,
679
00:25:39,572 --> 00:25:42,373
because if not, she's gonna
fall for it every single time.
680
00:25:42,441 --> 00:25:43,474
- I know.
681
00:25:43,543 --> 00:25:45,142
He probably just used
his little clips,
682
00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:47,011
where he's like,
"Yeah. Yeah, baby."
683
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:48,445
And then the connection drops,
684
00:25:48,514 --> 00:25:49,980
and then he gets back on
all the time.
685
00:25:50,049 --> 00:25:51,849
- That saddened me.
- Yeah.
686
00:25:51,918 --> 00:25:54,184
This looks like a good spot
for lunch.
687
00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:55,886
[phone dings]
Oh, [bleep]!
688
00:25:55,955 --> 00:25:56,987
[laughs]
689
00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:59,523
I literally just
got a message back
690
00:25:59,592 --> 00:26:01,358
from real Flavour.
691
00:26:01,427 --> 00:26:02,426
- What did he say?
692
00:26:02,495 --> 00:26:04,461
- He said,
"Hey, Nev, I can talk.
693
00:26:04,530 --> 00:26:06,263
Can you give me
about 30 minutes?"
694
00:26:06,332 --> 00:26:08,065
- Yes, yes.
- Wow.
695
00:26:08,134 --> 00:26:09,900
- Perfect.
- Amazing.
696
00:26:09,969 --> 00:26:13,637
Let's go back to Kimberly's so
that we can FaceTime with him.
697
00:26:13,706 --> 00:26:15,673
- Oh, boy.
- Oh, here we go.
698
00:26:15,741 --> 00:26:18,175
- This story's starting
to turn around.
699
00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:19,877
[dramatic music]
700
00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:21,278
All right, we're back.
701
00:26:21,347 --> 00:26:23,213
Shortest ride...
- Do it again.
702
00:26:23,282 --> 00:26:25,015
- In "Catfish" history,
I think.
703
00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:29,553
♪ ♪
704
00:26:29,622 --> 00:26:30,721
[knocks on door]
705
00:26:32,658 --> 00:26:33,757
Hi, we're back.
- Hello!
706
00:26:33,826 --> 00:26:35,259
Come on in.
Come on in.
707
00:26:35,328 --> 00:26:37,695
- Well, as we were leaving,
the real Flavour...
708
00:26:37,763 --> 00:26:39,797
- Oh, my gosh.
- DM'ed me back
709
00:26:39,865 --> 00:26:43,434
and said he'd be willing
to video call with us.
710
00:26:43,502 --> 00:26:45,436
- Okay.
- So we thought, very least,
711
00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:48,439
it'd be nice for you
just to finally get
712
00:26:48,507 --> 00:26:49,740
to actually speak
to the real guy
713
00:26:49,809 --> 00:26:52,042
to completely confirm
that it's not him.
714
00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:54,812
- Right.
- So let's sit back down.
715
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,013
- All right.
- All right?
716
00:26:56,082 --> 00:27:01,251
And I'll send him a link
to our Zoom.
717
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,589
"We are ready when you are."
718
00:27:05,658 --> 00:27:07,091
Sending it.
Okay.
719
00:27:09,028 --> 00:27:10,394
- You think
it's gonna be weird?
720
00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:12,997
- It's been weird.
- Right, that's true.
721
00:27:13,065 --> 00:27:14,598
- Oh!
- Oh!
722
00:27:14,667 --> 00:27:16,100
- Oh!
723
00:27:16,168 --> 00:27:17,601
Hello.
724
00:27:17,670 --> 00:27:19,103
- Hey!
- Yes.
725
00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:22,840
Thank you so much for being
willing to talk to us.
726
00:27:22,908 --> 00:27:25,476
Are you familiar
with the show "Catfish"?
727
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,913
- Okay, we're filming
an episode of the show,
728
00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:31,482
and we're here with Kimberly.
729
00:27:31,550 --> 00:27:34,785
And for the last six
or so months,
730
00:27:34,854 --> 00:27:37,221
Kimberly has been interacting
with someone
731
00:27:37,289 --> 00:27:39,823
from Nigeria who...
- Oh, wow.
732
00:27:39,892 --> 00:27:42,359
- Has been essentially
pretending to be you.
733
00:27:45,831 --> 00:27:47,965
- So we just wanted
to completely confirm
734
00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:50,634
that it is not you
735
00:27:50,703 --> 00:27:52,336
that Kimberly
has been talking to.
736
00:28:20,633 --> 00:28:22,733
- Right. Okay.
- I see.
737
00:28:22,802 --> 00:28:25,569
Well, I apologize
for all of this drama.
738
00:28:25,638 --> 00:28:27,871
This is drama.
- Well, yeah, but--
739
00:28:27,940 --> 00:28:29,139
- But it's not your fault.
740
00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:30,874
- Right.
- No, it isn't.
741
00:28:30,943 --> 00:28:33,544
And it's not his either.
- Right.
742
00:28:33,612 --> 00:28:36,880
- Well, we really appreciate
you clearing all that up.
743
00:28:36,949 --> 00:28:38,015
- Thank you.
744
00:28:42,755 --> 00:28:43,987
- I won't.
- Keep going.
745
00:28:44,056 --> 00:28:45,422
- It has nothing
to do with you.
746
00:28:45,491 --> 00:28:47,324
[laughter]
747
00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:48,992
- All right.
Thank you so much, Flavour.
748
00:28:53,466 --> 00:28:54,832
- This is too much.
749
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:56,066
I can forgive you
750
00:28:56,135 --> 00:28:58,168
because that's
what God requires me to do,
751
00:28:58,237 --> 00:29:01,405
but there's no way
he can rectify what he did.
752
00:29:01,474 --> 00:29:02,539
- Right.
753
00:29:02,608 --> 00:29:04,408
- Still no word
from fake Flavour.
754
00:29:04,477 --> 00:29:06,276
- Still nothing?
He hasn't even looked at it?
755
00:29:08,681 --> 00:29:10,781
All right,
I'm gonna send a video
756
00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:14,785
because maybe that'll be
more personal and disarming.
757
00:29:14,854 --> 00:29:16,720
- Mm-hmm.
- Hello.
758
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:18,689
As you know,
we're here with Kimberly.
759
00:29:18,758 --> 00:29:20,924
Kimberly is obviously
disappointed,
760
00:29:20,993 --> 00:29:25,629
but she's also considering
forgiving you
761
00:29:25,698 --> 00:29:28,031
if you're willing
to tell us the truth.
762
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,701
And I think
Kimberly deserves that.
763
00:29:30,770 --> 00:29:33,403
So please get back to us
as soon as you can.
764
00:29:33,472 --> 00:29:34,805
Okay.
765
00:29:34,874 --> 00:29:37,274
[tense music]
766
00:29:37,343 --> 00:29:40,811
- He could care less.
He's like, "On to the next."
767
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,212
- I mean, look,
we have to be prepared
768
00:29:42,281 --> 00:29:45,415
that perhaps he is
just on to the next.
769
00:29:45,484 --> 00:29:47,684
- I feel bad
for the next person
770
00:29:47,753 --> 00:29:51,355
or whoever else he's,
you know, toying with.
771
00:29:51,423 --> 00:29:52,990
- Look.
- Oh, oh!
772
00:29:53,058 --> 00:29:54,424
Ooh, he's typing.
773
00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:56,927
He's typing.
774
00:29:56,996 --> 00:29:59,163
- He's trying to get
that lie straight.
775
00:29:59,231 --> 00:30:00,430
- Mm.
776
00:30:00,499 --> 00:30:02,833
[phone dings]
- Oh.
777
00:30:02,902 --> 00:30:06,170
He says, "It will be great
to talk to my manager.
778
00:30:06,238 --> 00:30:10,140
And this is a U.S. TV show,
and I should get paid."
779
00:30:10,209 --> 00:30:11,508
- What?
- Good night!
780
00:30:11,577 --> 00:30:14,178
♪ ♪
781
00:30:14,246 --> 00:30:16,380
- Mm-mm-mm.
782
00:30:16,448 --> 00:30:17,781
- Let's go.
783
00:30:17,850 --> 00:30:18,816
Pack it up.
- I mean--
784
00:30:18,884 --> 00:30:20,918
- Oh, my God.
- We're leaving.
785
00:30:20,986 --> 00:30:23,053
Tell him to talk to my ass.
786
00:30:23,122 --> 00:30:24,588
Is he out of his mind?
787
00:30:26,258 --> 00:30:27,324
- Oh!
He says, "It will be great
788
00:30:27,393 --> 00:30:29,092
"to talk to my manager.
789
00:30:29,161 --> 00:30:32,830
This is a U.S. TV show,
and I should get paid."
790
00:30:32,898 --> 00:30:35,165
- What?
- Good night!
791
00:30:36,569 --> 00:30:39,369
- Mm-mm-mm.
792
00:30:39,438 --> 00:30:40,804
- Let's go.
793
00:30:40,873 --> 00:30:41,805
Pack it up.
- I mean--
794
00:30:41,874 --> 00:30:43,974
- Oh, my God.
- We're leaving.
795
00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:46,543
Tell him to talk to my ass.
796
00:30:46,612 --> 00:30:48,278
Is he out of his mind?
797
00:30:48,347 --> 00:30:49,279
- Oh, my God.
- No.
798
00:30:49,348 --> 00:30:50,681
Stop.
799
00:30:50,749 --> 00:30:52,649
- Oh, my gosh.
800
00:30:52,718 --> 00:30:53,917
- We're gonna pray for you.
801
00:30:53,986 --> 00:30:55,452
We have to go.
Pack it up.
802
00:30:55,521 --> 00:30:56,787
- I just wanna--
803
00:30:56,856 --> 00:30:58,822
God, I just wanna get
to the finish line.
804
00:30:58,891 --> 00:31:01,258
You know what I mean?
Like, we came all this way.
805
00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:03,794
We ran this marathon.
- Unbelievable.
806
00:31:03,863 --> 00:31:05,996
- And it's like
we're so close, you know?
807
00:31:06,065 --> 00:31:07,631
- I will pay him
with one of these...
808
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:10,367
- Pay you no mind.
- And one of these.
809
00:31:10,436 --> 00:31:12,135
- Right.
810
00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:13,871
- I mean--yes.
- I got two more.
811
00:31:13,939 --> 00:31:15,939
"Yes, you will get paid,
812
00:31:16,008 --> 00:31:21,144
"but we need to video call
with you now."
813
00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:22,613
- You gotta talk
to his management, Nev.
814
00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:24,815
- "Here is a link."
815
00:31:24,884 --> 00:31:25,849
- We should get paid
816
00:31:25,918 --> 00:31:27,718
for you wasting our time--
- Right.
817
00:31:27,786 --> 00:31:29,219
- Let me get my Zoom open again
just in case.
818
00:31:29,288 --> 00:31:30,954
- For the past three hours.
- Right?
819
00:31:31,023 --> 00:31:32,689
- So he has our Zoom info.
820
00:31:35,094 --> 00:31:37,127
- I don't wanna talk to him.
821
00:31:37,196 --> 00:31:40,731
- "We are ready for you."
822
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:43,800
- I should get paid.
823
00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:45,903
- He was typing.
824
00:31:45,971 --> 00:31:47,304
Oh, he says,
825
00:31:47,373 --> 00:31:49,539
"Until we settle with money,
I don't wanna videochat.
826
00:31:49,608 --> 00:31:51,308
My manager is here now.
Please talk to him."
827
00:31:51,377 --> 00:31:53,377
Okay, you want me
to talk to your manager,
828
00:31:53,445 --> 00:31:55,913
put him on.
- [yawns] Yeah, put him on.
829
00:31:55,981 --> 00:31:57,281
- I don't think
he's gonna surface.
830
00:31:57,349 --> 00:31:59,149
- You don't think so?
- Me either.
831
00:31:59,218 --> 00:32:00,250
- Oh, oh!
832
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:02,019
Someone just came in the Zoom.
Hold on.
833
00:32:02,087 --> 00:32:04,521
Hello? Anyone there?
834
00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:05,789
Hello?
835
00:32:07,192 --> 00:32:09,259
- Yes. Hi.
Can you hear us?
836
00:32:12,064 --> 00:32:14,431
- Alexander.
Hello. How are you?
837
00:32:15,267 --> 00:32:16,266
- Okay.
838
00:32:18,804 --> 00:32:20,771
- Yeah, we do.
- Okay.
839
00:32:25,044 --> 00:32:28,245
- So you want us
to send a money transfer?
840
00:32:31,884 --> 00:32:33,750
- Well, can we send...
841
00:32:37,089 --> 00:32:38,121
- Right.
842
00:32:41,393 --> 00:32:43,260
- Right. All right.
Well, so look.
843
00:32:43,329 --> 00:32:45,562
I understand you feel like
844
00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:48,131
if you show us who you are
845
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,669
or if you get "Flavour"
to come on,
846
00:32:52,738 --> 00:32:55,205
you may not end up
getting paid.
847
00:32:55,274 --> 00:32:58,008
I can tell you,
we will pay you.
848
00:32:58,077 --> 00:32:59,343
I can also tell you that
849
00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:03,313
I know you're not
Flavour's manager and that--
850
00:33:05,117 --> 00:33:09,686
- We just had
a very nice call--a videochat--
851
00:33:09,755 --> 00:33:12,122
with the real Flavour,
the artist.
852
00:33:12,191 --> 00:33:13,190
- For free.
853
00:33:15,794 --> 00:33:16,793
- You cannot--
854
00:33:19,999 --> 00:33:21,898
- Well, then ask him.
- To get back on.
855
00:33:21,967 --> 00:33:23,200
- We just spoke to him.
856
00:33:35,948 --> 00:33:37,114
- [chuckles]
857
00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:40,951
- I think it's clear
that you wanna get paid.
858
00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:43,487
And like I said,
we will absolutely pay you,
859
00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:45,622
but I'm not going
to just send that to you
860
00:33:45,691 --> 00:33:48,458
because I don't know
861
00:33:48,527 --> 00:33:50,961
that you'll then
actually talk to us.
862
00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:54,131
And based on the fact
that I know you're lying
863
00:33:54,199 --> 00:33:58,268
about being Flavour and also
being Flavour's manager,
864
00:33:58,337 --> 00:34:00,137
I have to assume
that you're also lying
865
00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:02,172
about getting "Flavour"
to talk to us
866
00:34:02,241 --> 00:34:03,340
once we've sent you the money.
867
00:34:03,409 --> 00:34:05,776
So this is your last chance.
868
00:34:05,844 --> 00:34:06,943
Take it or leave it.
869
00:34:07,012 --> 00:34:09,579
Come on the Zoom,
show us who you are,
870
00:34:09,648 --> 00:34:12,315
but if you don't do that,
we'll just have to say goodbye.
871
00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:14,418
And that'll be that.
You won't have money.
872
00:34:19,825 --> 00:34:22,993
- Okay, so I guess that's it.
Thank you anyway.
873
00:34:23,062 --> 00:34:25,062
I hope that
you don't need to lie anymore
874
00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:27,898
and catfish people
and pretend to be Flavour.
875
00:34:27,966 --> 00:34:29,199
- It's disrespectful.
876
00:34:29,268 --> 00:34:31,068
- It's rude
and disrespectful--oh!
877
00:34:32,771 --> 00:34:33,870
- So I guess that's it.
878
00:34:33,939 --> 00:34:35,072
I hope that you don't need
to lie anymore
879
00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:36,106
and catfish people.
880
00:34:36,175 --> 00:34:37,541
- It's disrespectful.
881
00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:39,609
- It's rude and disrespectful.
882
00:34:39,678 --> 00:34:40,577
Oh!
883
00:34:40,646 --> 00:34:42,579
[tense music]
884
00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:43,780
- Oh, wow.
885
00:34:43,849 --> 00:34:44,981
- Hello.
- Hi.
886
00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:46,616
- Are you still
Flavour's manager?
887
00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:48,952
- Yeah.
- I don't think so.
888
00:34:49,021 --> 00:34:50,620
- Look, we know you're not,
and that's okay.
889
00:34:50,689 --> 00:34:52,289
We don't care.
We don't care.
890
00:34:52,357 --> 00:34:54,357
- I am Flavour's manager.
What are you saying?
891
00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:56,393
- We just spoke to him!
892
00:34:56,462 --> 00:34:59,429
We just videocalled
with the real guy,
893
00:34:59,498 --> 00:35:01,698
not some bad,
fake videochat trick.
894
00:35:01,767 --> 00:35:03,567
We talked to the real Flavour.
895
00:35:03,635 --> 00:35:06,369
- I am Flavour's manager.
- Okay, okay.
896
00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:09,639
Let's just--I'm happy
that your Flavour's manager.
897
00:35:09,708 --> 00:35:10,941
You're doing a great job.
898
00:35:11,009 --> 00:35:13,210
His career is going very well.
899
00:35:13,278 --> 00:35:14,277
Good job.
900
00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:16,246
- Nice.
That's good.
901
00:35:16,315 --> 00:35:20,217
- Kimberly has been talking
to someone.
902
00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:23,453
We know she hasn't
been talking to Flavour,
903
00:35:23,522 --> 00:35:24,554
so we're just trying
to figure out
904
00:35:24,623 --> 00:35:27,157
who Kimberly
has been talking to.
905
00:35:28,994 --> 00:35:30,627
- Okay.
906
00:35:30,696 --> 00:35:33,663
Well, Kimberly
has been speaking to me.
907
00:35:33,732 --> 00:35:35,298
I am Alexander.
908
00:35:37,903 --> 00:35:39,803
- Uh-huh,
that's what we thought.
909
00:35:39,872 --> 00:35:41,438
You said your name
was Alexander.
910
00:35:41,507 --> 00:35:42,639
- Yeah.
911
00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:44,474
- And you're in Nigeria, right?
- Yeah.
912
00:35:44,543 --> 00:35:47,144
- So what was your intention
913
00:35:47,212 --> 00:35:49,146
all this time,
speaking to Kimberly?
914
00:35:49,214 --> 00:35:51,414
- My intention was to--
915
00:35:51,483 --> 00:35:53,183
to catfish her,
916
00:35:53,252 --> 00:35:54,918
to get money from her.
917
00:35:54,987 --> 00:35:56,887
- How old are you?
- 23.
918
00:35:56,955 --> 00:35:58,421
- 23?
- Yeah.
919
00:35:58,490 --> 00:36:00,257
- I have children
older than you.
920
00:36:00,325 --> 00:36:01,458
- Oh.
921
00:36:01,527 --> 00:36:04,361
- How long have you been
doing this kind of work?
922
00:36:04,429 --> 00:36:05,695
- A year.
923
00:36:05,764 --> 00:36:07,330
- We spoke to another woman
924
00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:09,866
who we think is another one
of your victims.
925
00:36:09,935 --> 00:36:12,969
She thinks that she's
Flavour's personal assistant.
926
00:36:13,038 --> 00:36:14,437
Do you know who that is?
927
00:36:17,376 --> 00:36:19,776
- Oh, that was your sister
we spoke to?
928
00:36:19,845 --> 00:36:20,844
- Yes.
929
00:36:22,581 --> 00:36:23,613
- I see.
930
00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:25,215
Do you have a job?
- No, I just--
931
00:36:25,284 --> 00:36:26,650
I can play football.
932
00:36:26,718 --> 00:36:30,153
I can do comedy.
I can dance.
933
00:36:30,222 --> 00:36:32,122
- Well, that's great that
you have all these talents.
934
00:36:32,191 --> 00:36:33,456
So why aren't you using them?
935
00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:35,292
Why are you catfishing people
936
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,360
and trying to scam people
for money?
937
00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:41,064
- Here in Nigeria,
people normally get money here
938
00:36:41,133 --> 00:36:42,899
in catfishing.
- Right.
939
00:36:42,968 --> 00:36:45,202
We can respect the fact
that you are going
940
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:47,170
through a struggle
that we will never understand,
941
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,472
but you know that
what you're doing is wrong.
942
00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:51,374
- Well, I'm a single parent,
and you know that,
943
00:36:51,443 --> 00:36:53,577
so to take advantage
of a single person,
944
00:36:53,645 --> 00:36:55,478
it's disrespectful to me.
945
00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:57,414
You should seek God
in your prayers
946
00:36:57,482 --> 00:36:59,482
and ask Him
for a better direction
947
00:36:59,551 --> 00:37:02,852
not to deceive and
manipulate people's feelings.
948
00:37:06,091 --> 00:37:09,526
- I don't believe you,
but God can change your heart.
949
00:37:09,595 --> 00:37:10,694
I'm not in charge.
950
00:37:10,762 --> 00:37:12,596
- Sure, sure, sure.
951
00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:15,398
Can I apologize?
- Yes, you can.
952
00:37:15,467 --> 00:37:18,902
- Sorry I came to you
as a catfisher.
953
00:37:18,971 --> 00:37:21,171
Please,
I want you to forgive me...
954
00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:26,576
- I accept your apology,
and I hope you mean it.
955
00:37:26,645 --> 00:37:29,246
And I hope you don't do it
to anyone else.
956
00:37:29,314 --> 00:37:31,348
- Sure, I got you.
I got you.
957
00:37:31,416 --> 00:37:33,883
- Is there anything else
that you wanna say to Kimberly?
958
00:37:33,952 --> 00:37:36,920
- I still want to tell her
to forgive me.
959
00:37:36,989 --> 00:37:38,722
- You're forgiven.
- Okay.
960
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:41,424
Since you forgive me...
961
00:37:43,095 --> 00:37:44,561
- No, I don't have time
to waste.
962
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:46,329
- So we are not going
to be talking?
963
00:37:46,398 --> 00:37:48,932
I'm not sure you forgive me.
964
00:37:49,001 --> 00:37:52,402
- I do, but you're annoying me
with the foolery,
965
00:37:52,471 --> 00:37:54,738
so I'ma talk to you
like I talk to my children.
966
00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:57,707
Don't play with me.
Everything is over.
967
00:37:57,776 --> 00:37:59,609
You [bleep] up.
968
00:37:59,678 --> 00:38:02,912
I'm about to sweat,
because I'm so mad,
969
00:38:02,981 --> 00:38:05,649
and I have to keep
my composure, you know?
970
00:38:05,717 --> 00:38:08,985
My children know
about this whole ordeal,
971
00:38:09,054 --> 00:38:11,254
and it's an embarrassment
to me.
972
00:38:11,323 --> 00:38:14,391
You're not gonna utilize
any more of my valuable time.
973
00:38:14,459 --> 00:38:16,259
- I got you.
974
00:38:16,328 --> 00:38:19,229
- Jeez.
- Are you crying?
975
00:38:19,298 --> 00:38:21,464
- No, I'm sweating!
- No, she's stressed out
976
00:38:21,533 --> 00:38:23,300
because
this is stressful for her.
977
00:38:23,368 --> 00:38:27,137
I think it is safe to say that
even though she forgives you,
978
00:38:27,205 --> 00:38:29,239
she doesn't owe you
her conversation,
979
00:38:29,308 --> 00:38:31,775
or her friendship,
or a relationship, or anything,
980
00:38:31,843 --> 00:38:33,176
and she doesn't want
to give it to you.
981
00:38:33,245 --> 00:38:34,911
- Just leave me alone.
982
00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:37,247
- Okay, if she says so.
983
00:38:37,316 --> 00:38:38,515
- Okay.
- All right, listen.
984
00:38:38,583 --> 00:38:41,751
Alexander, I appreciate you
speaking to us
985
00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:43,920
and telling the truth.
986
00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:45,755
And I understand
you were hoping
987
00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:48,558
that maybe some sort of
relationship would continue,
988
00:38:48,627 --> 00:38:50,660
but clearly,
this is the end.
989
00:38:50,729 --> 00:38:53,630
But I really want you to know
that we want the best for you.
990
00:38:53,699 --> 00:38:55,665
And obviously,
catfishing people
991
00:38:55,734 --> 00:38:57,934
is not gonna get you
where you wanna go.
992
00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:00,270
- I got you.
- All right, Alexander.
993
00:39:00,339 --> 00:39:01,638
Good luck with everything.
994
00:39:01,707 --> 00:39:03,173
- We wish you all the best.
995
00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:04,174
- Bye.
996
00:39:04,242 --> 00:39:06,109
- ♪ I was into you ♪
997
00:39:06,178 --> 00:39:09,179
- [sighs]
- High-five, Kimberly.
998
00:39:09,247 --> 00:39:10,847
- Thank you, guys.
- You ate that.
999
00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:12,615
You left no crumbs.
- [laughs]
1000
00:39:12,684 --> 00:39:16,820
- I did not expect him to want
your forgiveness so badly.
1001
00:39:16,888 --> 00:39:18,154
- It's [bleep]!
1002
00:39:18,223 --> 00:39:21,124
He wants to be able
to con her still as himself.
1003
00:39:21,193 --> 00:39:22,525
It's [bleep].
1004
00:39:22,594 --> 00:39:24,694
- I'm glad I got
to tell him how I felt.
1005
00:39:24,763 --> 00:39:27,097
And it's my fault
for even falling into it,
1006
00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:30,400
but I'm relieved
that we got it over with
1007
00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:31,634
and we know the truth.
1008
00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:33,370
- You are free of this.
1009
00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:36,873
- All right.
Well, that's that.
1010
00:39:36,942 --> 00:39:40,076
- Thank you, guys.
- Of course.
1011
00:39:40,145 --> 00:39:44,080
- ♪ A-B-C-D-E, F-U ♪
1012
00:39:44,149 --> 00:39:45,248
[computer chimes]
1013
00:39:45,317 --> 00:39:46,883
- Hey!
- Hey! All right.
1014
00:39:46,952 --> 00:39:48,918
What's up, ladies?
Give us an update.
1015
00:39:48,987 --> 00:39:50,153
What's been going on
with you guys?
1016
00:39:50,222 --> 00:39:51,988
- Well,
we've just been working,
1017
00:39:52,057 --> 00:39:53,690
staying beautiful
and wonderful,
1018
00:39:53,759 --> 00:39:56,059
like you guys are.
- Aw.
1019
00:39:56,128 --> 00:39:59,229
- Kimberly, obviously, things
didn't work out with Flavour,
1020
00:39:59,297 --> 00:40:01,164
but have you found
a new Flavour?
1021
00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:03,666
- No, not yet.
I haven't been seeking.
1022
00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:05,235
I'm scared of the fish,
you know?
1023
00:40:05,303 --> 00:40:06,336
- Still got a bad taste
in your mouth.
1024
00:40:06,405 --> 00:40:07,737
- Mm-hmm.
1025
00:40:07,806 --> 00:40:10,740
- You haven't talked to him
since we did, have you?
1026
00:40:10,809 --> 00:40:12,509
- Well, he reached out to me
1027
00:40:12,577 --> 00:40:14,444
a couple of weeks ago
on WhatsApp.
1028
00:40:14,513 --> 00:40:16,146
- Oh, my God.
1029
00:40:16,214 --> 00:40:17,580
- He just asked
how I was doing,
1030
00:40:17,649 --> 00:40:20,984
and I was like, "No,
I do not miss wasting time."
1031
00:40:21,052 --> 00:40:23,386
- Good. And, Diamond,
I'm sure you're happy
1032
00:40:23,455 --> 00:40:26,389
that you don't have to be
chasing after your mom.
1033
00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:28,591
- Yes.
- You know, if there's love,
1034
00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:30,059
it'll find me sooner or later,
1035
00:40:30,128 --> 00:40:32,662
but I'm definitely
not into the Internet.
1036
00:40:32,731 --> 00:40:34,230
It is what it is.
1037
00:40:34,299 --> 00:40:35,565
- Diamond, take your mom out
1038
00:40:35,634 --> 00:40:37,300
so she can meet
some new flavors.
1039
00:40:37,369 --> 00:40:40,203
- All right, ladies.
- Have a good one.
1040
00:40:40,272 --> 00:40:41,704
- Thanks for your help,
everyone.
1041
00:40:41,773 --> 00:40:43,540
- No problem.
- Our pleasure.
1042
00:40:43,608 --> 00:40:45,241
both: Bye.
- Bye.
1043
00:40:45,310 --> 00:40:48,211
[uplifting music]
1044
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,481
♪ ♪
1045
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,820
[ on an onlinec]
virtual social network.
1046
00:40:56,888 --> 00:40:58,154
- She's been
showing me something
1047
00:40:58,223 --> 00:40:59,255
I've never been shown before.
1048
00:40:59,324 --> 00:41:02,158
- Except for her face
on FaceTime.
1049
00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:04,227
Oh, oh, oh!
- We got a hit.
1050
00:41:04,296 --> 00:41:05,829
"Why is he with you?
1051
00:41:05,897 --> 00:41:07,964
He knows the reason
why I won't meet him."
1052
00:41:08,033 --> 00:41:09,466
Is there something
you haven't told us?
1053
00:41:09,534 --> 00:41:11,668
- What are you hiding
from us, Charles?