- Oh, [bleep]. - "My mom, Kimberly,
"has been dating a man online named Flavour.
He claims to be a famous singer."
- He's really kind and loving.
- And you FaceTimed?
- You are 100% sure
it was that guy? - His face?
- Yes. - Hi. Can you hear us?
- This is your last chance.
Come on the Zoom. Show us who you are.
[computer chimes]
[dramatic musical sting]
Hey! - Hello!
[whoopee cushion toots]
Ew! - [laughs]
- What the--
- Ew! all: Ew!
- Boo! - I didn't--[stammers]
- [laughs] - I fart all the time, so...
- That's a fact.
- That's not even, like, gross for me.
That's, like, funny.
- Gotcha. - I fell for it.
A classic. - Yes.
- Oh, the double was smart. - We got you.
- I'm so embarrassed.
[laughter]
Okay, let's get into it.
"Please take the Internet away from my mom."
- Oh, [bleep]. - Uh-oh.
"Nev and Kamie, my name is Diamond,
"and I really need your help.
I'm writing on behalf of my mom, Kimberly."
- ♪ It's uncomfortable territory ♪
- "She's 52 and lives in Fayetteville, North Carolina.
"My mom has a huge heart, but she keeps getting scammed
"and hurt by men on the Internet.
"I think it's happening again.
"She's been dating a man online
"for the past seven months.
"He claims to be some famous singer.
His name is Flavour."
- Flavor Flav?
If it's Flavor Flav... - Oh, my God.
- There's no way!
- "I don't know much about their relationship,
"but she's saying they're in love
"and want a future together.
"I know they've never met,
"and I have a bad feeling about him.
"I hope you guys can sort this out
and show my mom that sometimes
"the Internet is not the place to find love.
"Please help my mom!
Diamond."
Oh, my God. It's got to be Flavor Flav.
- [as Flavor Flav] What time is it?
- If it's Flavor Flav, we have got bigger problems.
- [laughs]
- Anyway, all right, we got to help Diamond.
She gave us her number. Let's text her.
"Hey Diamond, can you Zoom?"
- What if it is Flavor Flav, and at the end,
we get to see Flavor Flav?
[as Flavor Flav] You know, Nev,
this happens to me all the time.
That's how he talk. [phone chimes]
- Oh, she wrote back. "Hey, Nev and Kamie.
Thank you for your help. Yes, I can Zoom."
Great.
[computer chimes] - Hey!
- Diamond. - Hi.
- What's up? - Nothing much.
How are you guys doing? - Good.
- Tell us a little bit about your mom, Kimberly.
- Well, for starters, she tends to date online a lot.
She meets a lot of foreigners, and they're like,
"Oh, I just need a couple of dollars to get to you."
- So a number of times before, she's met a guy,
he's swept her off her feet, then asks for money,
and she's sent money?
- Yes. - Like, how much?
- Couple of thousand. - Wow.
- But I'm like, she doesn't seem to get it.
And I'm guessing, like, someone else
has to bring it to her attention
because I'm very hard on her.
- Okay, the most important question:
is your mother talking to Flavor Flav?
- [laughs] I hope not,
but she said the person's name is Flavour.
But this person is from Africa or something,
so Flavor Flav is not from Africa.
- No, he's not.
- Does she have any idea that you reached out to us?
- I told her I would.
I've threatened her a couple of times.
- What if you call her,
put her on speaker, and then we can talk to her?
- Yeah, I'll call her.
[line trilling]
- Hey, so remember I told you
I was sending a email out to "Catfish"?
- I have Nev and Kamie here.
[laughter] - The people from "Catfish."
- "Who's Nev and Kamie?"
- I'm gonna get them on the phone. Hold on.
- Hello, Kimberly. - Hey, Kimberly.
- How you doing?
- Well, she knows you've been talking to this guy, Flavour,
and was hoping that we could help connect you guys.
- Oh. - You saw his face on camera,
talking and everything?
- Wow.
- And you love him?
- It's okay.
- Well, we obviously wanna help you figure this out.
- All right, great.
Well, since Flavour lives in Africa--
at least, so he says--
I think it'd just be easier
if you could come here to Los Angeles
to get international flights in and out from here.
Then, obviously, we could either bring him here,
or we could go wherever he is.
- All right, so we'll see you tomorrow.
And we will figure this out.
- All right. - See ya.
Don't worry. She's in good hands.
- Thank you.
- Bye, Diamond. - Bye.
- Whoa, boy.
- I'm not ready to rule this possibility out.
I mean, she saw him and talked to him on a video call.
I think there could be a guy that she's talking to
who looks like the guy in the pictures,
and maybe there's a chance something...
[whines] - I don't know.
What I do know is this
Flavour is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
Boom! - Wow.
- Yeah! - That was fantastic.
[pensive music]
- All right. Let's go get our girl.
Don't know what Kimberly looks like,
so... - Right.
- I guess we're just on the lookout
for a hopelessly romantic Black woman in her early 50s?
- Is that her with her arms folded right there?
That is her. - Oh, okay, you were right.
- [laughs] The one who looks like she's upset
that her daughter sent her here.
- All right. Let's scoop her.
Kimberly!
- Hey. - Hey!
- [laughs] I was like, that has to be her.
How are you? - How are you?
You're beautiful. - Thank you.
- Oh, my gosh.
- Welcome to Los Angeles. - Thank you for having me.
- All right.
Let's get you out of here. - Okay.
- So we got you set up with a cute, little place to stay,
but before we go there, we thought we'd
get you a drink, get you some lunch.
And then you can tell us everything about Flavour,
and we can sort of really get the lay of the land.
- That'd be nice.
- All right. Let's head on in.
- Let's go. - Okay.
- Let's get some brewskis.
Hi.
This is different for us.
- All right, cheers. - Cheers.
Yay! - Salud.
- I know we're here to talk about Flavour.
That said, your daughter mentioned to us
that you've had a series of guys that you've talked to
that have somehow turned out to be scammy.
- There's just one. - Okay, so it was one guy.
- One guy. - What happened?
- He was a architect from DC. - Oh.
- You met him online?
- Yes. - Okay.
- He had a job in Malaysia,
and he had this horrific accident
while he was there.
And they needed the money before they could provide
any of the medical services for him.
- How much did he need?
- $1,500.
- Okay. So what happened?
- I sent the money.
And then, he disappeared after the surgery,
and then I didn't hear anymore.
I don't know if he's alive or dead or not.
- Hold on a second, are you aware of the fact
that what you just described
is as textbook [bleep] scam as there is?
Right? - Well, I didn't know.
- But, like, in retrospect, you're conscious of that.
- Right. - Right.
So how did you meet Flavour?
- We met on Instagram.
He just went in my mailbox,
or whatever you call it. - He slid in?
- He slid in my DM. - Wow, yeah.
- It was just like, "Hello. How are you?"
And then, he explained who he was and that I was beautiful.
- So out of nowhere, you get a "hello,
how are you?" - Yes.
- And you guys start messaging in Instagram?
- Well, he suggested we get on WhatsApp.
- So you switched to WhatsApp, and you start texting.
- Yes, and call. We call. - Do you talk--oh.
You call him, he calls you? - He does most of the calling.
- You guys talk on the phone a lot?
- A few times a week.
- Wow, that's a lot. - That's a lot.
But when he talks to you,
he has an accent? - Yes.
- What are those calls like, usually?
- We talk about religion
and, you know, what he's working on.
They're pretty flirty.
- How flirty are we talking?
- Like adult flirty. - Oh!
- Uh-huh. - R or X?
- Right, plead the fifth. Plead the fifth.
Drink to that. - [laughs]
- Amen. - What's he like?
- He's really kind and loving, attentive.
He's caring.
I like the fact that he's a single parent.
He's being very responsible in that aspect,
and I respect that.
- What about the L word? You guys--
- Yeah, we've said we love each other. Yes.
- Are you in love with him? - I am.
We're in a relationship. I'm not seeing anyone else, so...
- So it's official. - It's official.
- What about this FaceTime call that you said you had?
- Oh, it was pretty short.
- He called you? - He called me.
- FaceTime? - On WhatsApp.
- Oh, okay, on WhatsApp. - Mm.
- It was only two minutes because it kept buffering...
and cutting out. - Okay.
- But it did work enough for you to confirm,
for yourself, like, oh, this is him.
- That's him, yeah. - Same voice on the phone?
Same guy in the picture? - Same in the video.
- Like, him?
Well, that's good news. - Yeah.
- Has Flavour ever asked you to maybe help financially?
- Yes, there was one time
he asked for some stream card or something--
I don't know what it was-- to download some music.
I said, "Tell your management to get it.
You know, I'm not doing that."
- Oh, well, can we see his Instagram?
- Sure. - Can you show us
what this guy is all about?
All right, so it says, "King of Africa music.
"Songwriter, producer, guitarist,
live performing dancer."
- Why doesn't he have, like, official Flavour--
- I don't know. - All right.
And can we see some of your messages?
- Those are our messages.
- Oh, okay, let's take a look here.
All right. Let's see what we got.
Okay, so out of nowhere, you get a "hello."
You said, "Good morning."
"My name is Chinedu...
"popularly known as Flavour Nabania as my stage name.
"I'm from Nigeria, though sometimes
"I travel out for my shows.
I admire your beautiful look."
So you talked on Instagram audio a bunch.
He kept saying, "Get WhatsApp."
- He said, "Get it because of me.
My management monitor moves here."
- Oh, so he was worried
that, like, his manager would see his IG.
- He's always worried about his management. I'm like, so what?
- So you finally did get on WhatsApp?
- Mm-hmm. - Okay, and let's just see.
I want to see your messages with him.
Oh, there's a lot.
Lots of kisses, babes.
- "Babe, can you please get me an iTunes card?"
- Well, that's what the stream card is,
or the iTune or whatever.
That's what I was talking about.
- Then you said, "It's not polite to ask women for money."
- It isn't. - And then, he said,
"Babe, I'm in need of it, my love."
You said, Where's your management? That's their job."
- I'm gonna be completely honest with you.
I feel like I am bursting at the seams right now
to tell you that this guy
is not the guy you think that you are talking to.
Flavour's not talking to you from some account that he has
that his management "has access to."
- But you did talk to Flavour on FaceTime.
- I did. - So that's what's so crazy.
- I would need to see a screenshot.
- You are 100% sure
it was that guy? - His face?
- It was his face and his voice.
And, you know, we had a conversation.
- Wow. Okay, so obviously,
there is a lot about Flavour that seems legit,
but there's also a lot that's suspicious.
- Right. - Which parts seem legit?
- Well, I don't-- she says she saw him
and talked to him on a video call.
So I'm not sure, obviously, which way this is gonna go.
I'd like to, whoever it is... - Who are you?
- Get you in front of them,
either physically or at least digitally,
to sort of get some answers.
- Join the club. - Yeah.
[laughter]
So here's what I think we should do.
Let's crack this case.
You should go back to your Airbnb.
Send us an email with the pictures he sent,
his email, whatever information you have.
And I think we should go back to the office right now
and see what we can find out about this guy.
- Well, thank you. - Of course.
- Don't thank us yet
'cause this Flavour seems a little fishy.
- Hmm! Let's do it!
[farts]
- You did not just cropdust me.
- You walked right into it. - You bastard!
- You could have turned back.
- I don't like the direction our relationship is going in.
You're so annoying. - Well, after you pranked me
with the whoopee cushion earlier, I had to get you back
with a real fart. - That's disgusting.
You sicko.
[whoopee cushion toots] [laughter]
[bleep] you. I am done!
- [laughs] - I am done!
Stop bothering me!
- It was so good. - Leave me alone.
Don't get up! - Aah!
Oh, that's good.
Good, old-fashioned jokes.
- Grow up.
- All right, Kimberly--
out of nowhere, she gets a DM
from some random guy named Flavour from Nigeria.
- Give me a [bleep] break. - Once in a while,
he'll ask her to send some sort of gift card, but she doesn't.
But he continues talking to her.
They did videochat once,
and she swears they were having a conversation,
albeit short, where she could see him.
And that was enough to convince her
that it is really that guy. - No.
I want for you to Google right now the official
Flavour's Instagram. - All right, let's see.
Let's get into it. - Please.
- "Flavour Nigerian musician."
Okay, so here's the guy.
- "2niteflavour."
That's definitely not the Instagram Kimberly has for him.
Wow, look at that--
4.7 million followers... - Right.
That was very easy. - With a verified checkmark.
- Right, right. - Come on now.
- All right, he is, in fact, a famous singer.
Here's the Instagram she has.
Who would have the balls to say,
"I'm Flavour, a famous singer from Nigeria,"
when one Google search finds that there is a real Flavour?
- I think Kimberly doesn't have Google.
[laughter]
Because...
- Wait, let's go back. Here's her email.
She says, "Hey, Nev and Kamie. Thank you.
This is what I know about Flavour."
His number on WhatsApp, his Instagram.
We already know he's not the guy in the pictures.
All right, let's just look through his pictures
and see if anyone's made any comments.
Okay. Kuburat.
[tense music]
Kuburat.
Oh. Oh, here's Kuburat again with a comment.
"Thank you for the opportunity. I'm blessed."
- What opportunity?
- Should we message Kuburat
and just see what they know?
- For sure.
- I'll just say, "Hello, my name is Nev.
We would love to speak with you."
I mean, here's my question.
If we show Kimberly this,
is she gonna say, like, "Oh, yeah, see?"
- Mm-hmm. - "He is really famous
and does have a busy life."
- How are we going to convince her that it's not him?
- Should we try to get the real guy to just send us a video?
- Yeah. - All right.
"Hey, Flavour, it appears someone is impersonating you."
All right, so we've now messaged
two people in Nigeria. - Mm-hmm.
- I just--I'm still so hung up on that video call.
- Mm-hmm. - She was so convinced!
- Oh, somebody's calling us. - What?
- WhatsApp. [phone ringing]
- Hello?
- Good morning.
- Yes, we were hoping you could tell us--
how do you know Flavour, the singer?
- Oh, his assistant. Oh, wow.
Have you met him, or you just work for him,
you know, through the Internet?
- But do you see him and meet with him face to face?
- No. Okay.
So is he paying you?
- Okay.
Has he paid you yet?
- Hi. This is Kamie.
- Hi. Did he hire you from his Instagram?
- Okay. Can you tell us what's his Instagram?
- Two? Okay.
What's one of the names of the Instagram?
- Okay, and the other one is--
- Why does he have two?
- We're trying to help a woman in the United States.
We're worried that she's being lied to,
and I'm also worried that you're being lied to.
- But how do you know it's really Flavour?
- You mean you met him on videochat?
- Okay, well, thank you so much for your help.
- Bye.
- I'm so confused.
Somehow, whoever is catfishing Kimberly
has also convinced this other woman
to be his personal assistant.
For all we know, some guy that somehow looks like him enough
is convincing these women that it's him.
[sighs]
Maybe someone who does actually work for Flavour
made this fake account and uses it to, like, scam women
because he has access to the real Flavour.
I know. It's a stretch.
I'm just trying to come up
with something that makes any sense.
- Well, if this is someone that works for the real Flavour,
they need to be fired.
- All I know is that this whole Flavour situation
just got a lot spicier.
- We are going to have to convince Kimberly
that she is not talking to who she thinks she's talking to.
- Yeah. Like, come on.
At some point, you have to realize that you're being
taken advantage of. - Yeah.
Okay. Shall we? - Yeah.
[dramatic music]
- Oh, yeah. - Wow!
- This is nice. - How are you?
- Hi. - Great morning.
- Good to see you. - Great morning.
- This is lovely. - Cute.
- All right. So how are you feeling?
- I'm nervous just to see
if you found anything... interesting.
- All right. Well, look.
We have some things to discuss,
so why don't we just dive in? - Okay.
- The first thing we did was we said, okay, who is this guy?
He says he's a famous singer.
Surely we can find him, right?
And sure enough, he is,
but this is not the page you've been looking at.
This is his actual verified page.
And he's got almost 5 million followers.
- Oh, my.
Oh, my gosh.
- Had you just Googled him, you would have found this too,
I mean, 'cause this is just
very available, public information.
- I don't have time to be looking, but--
- What?
- Because I take people at their word.
- But, like--okay.
Who is your favorite singer?
- Beyoncé, of course. - Beyoncé.
Okay, so Beyoncé.
So you know Beyoncé has Instagram,
and she has a verified checkmark.
That is Beyoncé's page.
Now if BeyHive555 DMs you
and says, "Hey, it's Beyoncé.
I'm talking to you from this page,"
what would you think?
- Whatever.
"Well, what you need, girl?
What you need?"
- Kimberly...
There is no way!
- I'm telling you, I'm not into this.
- I don't think there's anything we can do for you.
[laughter] - What do you mean?
- Okay. - I think we should go.
- I don't know what we can do for you!
- So...
- I love your optimism.
- You just...
It's beautiful. It's beautiful to see.
- But again, you understand the odds
of this superstar Nigerian singer-songwriter
hitting you up--
- I didn't even know what the capacity of his fame was.
- But now that you do,
do you still think you're talking to this guy?
[suspenseful music]
- I don't think so. - Okay.
[solemn music]
♪ ♪
- [emotionally] I got duped again.
- Why do you think you got duped again?
- Because I give everybody the benefit of the doubt.
But I learned another lesson.
It's sad, but it's true.
- Especially if you have a kind heart
and you're a good person,
people will take full advantage.
- Why would you do that? Like, what is your problem?
- Mm-hmm. - You know?
Like, this is absolutely unnecessary.
[clicks tongue] So...
- Well, to completely confirm, I did DM the real Flavour.
And I'm waiting to see if he'll write back.
So far, he hasn't.
- Did he open it?
- Mm, no.
So the last thing that we did was
we went through the page that you are friends with.
Not a lot of people leave comments,
but one person did leave one comment.
So we messaged this person.
She called us.
A young woman's voice came on,
speaking English but clearly from Nigeria.
And we asked her, "Oh, hey, you know,
we saw that you're friends with 'Flavour.'"
And she said, "He recently gave me a job
as his personal assistant."
And I said, "Well, have you been paid?"
She said, "Well, not yet 'cause I just started."
So it sounds like somebody has this poor girl believing
that she's his personal assistant.
And considering that he asked you to help him financially,
like, maybe there are other people,
and maybe this is part of an elaborate, larger scam.
So who's running that account?
- The only thing that I have
is that I did see him on that videochat.
- You are certain the person on that call was this guy?
- Unless he has a twin... - Okay.
- Or someone that looks very, very similar to him.
- Okay, if you're so sure
that you videochatted with him,
you'd presumably have to be talking
to someone who has access to him,
'cause how else would they get a phone in his hands
to talk to you?
- That's the only thing. The videos got me tripping.
- Yeah, so all of this brings us to the now.
The only thing left to do would be to message him.
- I think so. - All right.
"Hello, this is Nev from the MTV show, 'Catfish.'
"I'd love to speak with you
"about your relationship with Kimberly.
"Please get back to me as soon as you can.
Thanks." All right.
- He probably won't respond.
- [gasps] He read it. - Ooh!
Oh, that double check means he's read it?
- Mm-hmm.
Typing. - Oh!
- Typing, typing. - Oh!
He said, "Hello." Okay.
Oh! He said, "What's wrong?"
[ominous music]
- Aah. - Everything's wrong, babe.
- "We know that you and Kimberly
"have been talking for a while.
"Would you be available
to do a video call?"
Oh! He says, "I can video call for a second."
Okay.
- What did I get myself into?
- It's okay.
[suspenseful music]
My God, the suspense is killing me.
Oh!
[phone chiming]
Should we answer it? - Yes.
- Open it.
♪ ♪
- Hello? - What?
[suspenseful music]
- My God, the suspense is killing me.
Oh!
[phone chiming]
Should we answer it? - Yes.
♪ ♪
- Hello?
- [gasps]
- Hello.
Hello? - How are you?
- Hold on.
Chile, that is more than just a bad connection.
- Uh, he--oh!
Oh, my God.
Is that similar to what it looked like
when you spoke to him before? - Mm-hmm.
- All right, so what he just did
was he found a video of the real guy,
and he just literally was filming the screen.
I could see the screen, like, moving.
- Wow. - The audacity.
He's typing. - Oh!
- Tell him to save it.
[phone dings]
- He says, "I have a bad network here."
- No, you're bad.
- That was the same video he called me with.
- It was the same video?
- If I'm not mistaken, I think it is.
- It's okay.
Live and learn. Live and learn.
[phone dings] Oh!
"I didn't know she had doubts about me."
Clearly, he is standing strong.
- He's committed to the lie.
- So what do you wanna do?
- Fry that fish, please.
Hard.
Hard as you can fry it. - Okay.
"We know you're not the real Flavour
"and that was just a video from your computer.
"You can't lie to us or Kimberly anymore.
Would you like to try telling us the truth?"
- Just man up and tell the truth.
[pensive music]
♪ ♪
- I don't know if he's not planning on responding
or if he's intentionally ignoring us,
but I think, for the moment, it looks like
"Flavour" is taking his sweet-ass time.
- Mm-hmm.
- All right, so what do we do? - Yeah, I mean, look.
The ball's now in his court,
so let's let him sit on it, let him think.
In the meantime, we can all grab lunch,
do whatever you wanna do.
And if we hear something, you hear something,
let us know, and we'll just regroup in a little bit.
- Okay. - Does that work?
- That works for me.
- All right.
- Thank you so much. - I'll speak to you soon.
- Thank you. - Of course.
Poor Kimberly.
- [sighs] I know.
- Well, we had to tell her.
Like, she has to know these things,
because if not, she's gonna fall for it every single time.
- I know.
He probably just used his little clips,
where he's like, "Yeah. Yeah, baby."
And then the connection drops,
and then he gets back on all the time.
- That saddened me. - Yeah.
This looks like a good spot for lunch.
[phone dings] Oh, [bleep]!
[laughs]
I literally just got a message back
from real Flavour.
- What did he say?
- He said, "Hey, Nev, I can talk.
Can you give me about 30 minutes?"
- Yes, yes. - Wow.
- Perfect. - Amazing.
Let's go back to Kimberly's so that we can FaceTime with him.
- Oh, boy. - Oh, here we go.
- This story's starting to turn around.
[dramatic music]
All right, we're back.
Shortest ride... - Do it again.
- In "Catfish" history, I think.
♪ ♪
[knocks on door]
Hi, we're back. - Hello!
Come on in. Come on in.
- Well, as we were leaving, the real Flavour...
- Oh, my gosh. - DM'ed me back
and said he'd be willing to video call with us.
- Okay. - So we thought, very least,
it'd be nice for you just to finally get
to actually speak to the real guy
to completely confirm that it's not him.
- Right. - So let's sit back down.
- All right. - All right?
And I'll send him a link to our Zoom.
"We are ready when you are."
Sending it. Okay.
- You think it's gonna be weird?
- It's been weird. - Right, that's true.
- Oh! - Oh!
Hello.
- Hey! - Yes.
Thank you so much for being willing to talk to us.
Are you familiar with the show "Catfish"?
- Okay, we're filming an episode of the show,
and we're here with Kimberly.
And for the last six or so months,
Kimberly has been interacting with someone
from Nigeria who... - Oh, wow.
- Has been essentially pretending to be you.
- So we just wanted to completely confirm
that it is not you
that Kimberly has been talking to.
- Right. Okay. - I see.
Well, I apologize for all of this drama.
This is drama. - Well, yeah, but--
- But it's not your fault.
- Right. - No, it isn't.
And it's not his either. - Right.
- Well, we really appreciate you clearing all that up.
- Thank you.
- I won't. - Keep going.
- It has nothing to do with you.
[laughter]
- All right. Thank you so much, Flavour.
- This is too much.
I can forgive you
because that's what God requires me to do,
but there's no way he can rectify what he did.
- Right.
- Still no word from fake Flavour.
- Still nothing? He hasn't even looked at it?
All right, I'm gonna send a video
because maybe that'll be more personal and disarming.
- Mm-hmm. - Hello.
As you know, we're here with Kimberly.
Kimberly is obviously disappointed,
but she's also considering forgiving you
if you're willing to tell us the truth.
And I think Kimberly deserves that.
So please get back to us as soon as you can.
Okay.
[tense music]
- He could care less. He's like, "On to the next."
- I mean, look, we have to be prepared
that perhaps he is just on to the next.
- I feel bad for the next person
or whoever else he's, you know, toying with.
- Look. - Oh, oh!
Ooh, he's typing.
He's typing.
- He's trying to get that lie straight.
- Mm.
[phone dings] - Oh.
He says, "It will be great to talk to my manager.
And this is a U.S. TV show, and I should get paid."
- What? - Good night!
♪ ♪
- Mm-mm-mm.
- Let's go.
Pack it up. - I mean--
- Oh, my God. - We're leaving.
Tell him to talk to my ass.
Is he out of his mind?
- Oh! He says, "It will be great
"to talk to my manager.
This is a U.S. TV show, and I should get paid."
- What? - Good night!
- Mm-mm-mm.
- Let's go.
Pack it up. - I mean--
- Oh, my God. - We're leaving.
Tell him to talk to my ass.
Is he out of his mind?
- Oh, my God. - No.
Stop.
- Oh, my gosh.
- We're gonna pray for you.
We have to go. Pack it up.
- I just wanna--
God, I just wanna get to the finish line.
You know what I mean? Like, we came all this way.
We ran this marathon. - Unbelievable.
- And it's like we're so close, you know?
- I will pay him with one of these...
- Pay you no mind. - And one of these.
- Right.
- I mean--yes. - I got two more.
"Yes, you will get paid,
"but we need to video call with you now."
- You gotta talk to his management, Nev.
- "Here is a link."
- We should get paid
for you wasting our time-- - Right.
- Let me get my Zoom open again just in case.
- For the past three hours. - Right?
- So he has our Zoom info.
- I don't wanna talk to him.
- "We are ready for you."
- I should get paid.
- He was typing.
Oh, he says,
"Until we settle with money, I don't wanna videochat.
My manager is here now. Please talk to him."
Okay, you want me to talk to your manager,
put him on. - [yawns] Yeah, put him on.
- I don't think he's gonna surface.
- You don't think so? - Me either.
- Oh, oh!
Someone just came in the Zoom. Hold on.
Hello? Anyone there?
Hello?
- Yes. Hi. Can you hear us?
- Alexander. Hello. How are you?
- Okay.
- Yeah, we do. - Okay.
- So you want us to send a money transfer?
- Well, can we send...
- Right.
- Right. All right. Well, so look.
I understand you feel like
if you show us who you are
or if you get "Flavour" to come on,
you may not end up getting paid.
I can tell you, we will pay you.
I can also tell you that
I know you're not Flavour's manager and that--
- We just had a very nice call--a videochat--
with the real Flavour, the artist.
- For free.
- You cannot--
- Well, then ask him. - To get back on.
- We just spoke to him.
- [chuckles]
- I think it's clear that you wanna get paid.
And like I said, we will absolutely pay you,
but I'm not going to just send that to you
because I don't know
that you'll then actually talk to us.
And based on the fact that I know you're lying
about being Flavour and also being Flavour's manager,
I have to assume that you're also lying
about getting "Flavour" to talk to us
once we've sent you the money.
So this is your last chance.
Take it or leave it.
Come on the Zoom, show us who you are,
but if you don't do that, we'll just have to say goodbye.
And that'll be that. You won't have money.
- Okay, so I guess that's it. Thank you anyway.
I hope that you don't need to lie anymore
and catfish people and pretend to be Flavour.
- It's disrespectful.
- It's rude and disrespectful--oh!
- So I guess that's it.
I hope that you don't need to lie anymore
and catfish people.
- It's disrespectful.
- It's rude and disrespectful.
Oh!
[tense music]
- Oh, wow.
- Hello. - Hi.
- Are you still Flavour's manager?
- Yeah. - I don't think so.
- Look, we know you're not, and that's okay.
We don't care. We don't care.
- I am Flavour's manager. What are you saying?
- We just spoke to him!
We just videocalled with the real guy,
not some bad, fake videochat trick.
We talked to the real Flavour.
- I am Flavour's manager. - Okay, okay.
Let's just--I'm happy that your Flavour's manager.
You're doing a great job.
His career is going very well.
Good job.
- Nice. That's good.
- Kimberly has been talking to someone.
We know she hasn't been talking to Flavour,
so we're just trying to figure out
who Kimberly has been talking to.
- Okay.
Well, Kimberly has been speaking to me.
I am Alexander.
- Uh-huh, that's what we thought.
You said your name was Alexander.
- Yeah.
- And you're in Nigeria, right? - Yeah.
- So what was your intention
all this time, speaking to Kimberly?
- My intention was to--
to catfish her,
to get money from her.
- How old are you? - 23.
- 23? - Yeah.
- I have children older than you.
- Oh.
- How long have you been doing this kind of work?
- A year.
- We spoke to another woman
who we think is another one of your victims.
She thinks that she's Flavour's personal assistant.
Do you know who that is?
- Oh, that was your sister we spoke to?
- Yes.
- I see.
Do you have a job? - No, I just--
I can play football.
I can do comedy. I can dance.
- Well, that's great that you have all these talents.
So why aren't you using them?
Why are you catfishing people
and trying to scam people for money?
- Here in Nigeria, people normally get money here
in catfishing. - Right.
We can respect the fact that you are going
through a struggle that we will never understand,
but you know that what you're doing is wrong.
- Well, I'm a single parent, and you know that,
so to take advantage of a single person,
it's disrespectful to me.
You should seek God in your prayers
and ask Him for a better direction
not to deceive and manipulate people's feelings.
- I don't believe you, but God can change your heart.
I'm not in charge.
- Sure, sure, sure.
Can I apologize? - Yes, you can.
- Sorry I came to you as a catfisher.
Please, I want you to forgive me...
- I accept your apology, and I hope you mean it.
And I hope you don't do it to anyone else.
- Sure, I got you. I got you.
- Is there anything else that you wanna say to Kimberly?
- I still want to tell her to forgive me.
- You're forgiven. - Okay.
Since you forgive me...
- No, I don't have time to waste.
- So we are not going to be talking?
I'm not sure you forgive me.
- I do, but you're annoying me with the foolery,
so I'ma talk to you like I talk to my children.
Don't play with me. Everything is over.
You [bleep] up.
I'm about to sweat, because I'm so mad,
and I have to keep my composure, you know?
My children know about this whole ordeal,
and it's an embarrassment to me.
You're not gonna utilize any more of my valuable time.
- I got you.
- Jeez. - Are you crying?
- No, I'm sweating! - No, she's stressed out
because this is stressful for her.
I think it is safe to say that even though she forgives you,
she doesn't owe you her conversation,
or her friendship, or a relationship, or anything,
and she doesn't want to give it to you.
- Just leave me alone.
- Okay, if she says so.
- Okay. - All right, listen.
Alexander, I appreciate you speaking to us
and telling the truth.
And I understand you were hoping
that maybe some sort of relationship would continue,
but clearly, this is the end.
But I really want you to know that we want the best for you.
And obviously, catfishing people
is not gonna get you where you wanna go.
- I got you. - All right, Alexander.
Good luck with everything.
- We wish you all the best.
- Bye.
- ♪ I was into you ♪
- [sighs] - High-five, Kimberly.
- Thank you, guys. - You ate that.
You left no crumbs. - [laughs]
- I did not expect him to want your forgiveness so badly.
- It's [bleep]!
He wants to be able to con her still as himself.
It's [bleep].
- I'm glad I got to tell him how I felt.
And it's my fault for even falling into it,
but I'm relieved that we got it over with
and we know the truth.
- You are free of this.
- All right. Well, that's that.
- Thank you, guys. - Of course.
- ♪ A-B-C-D-E, F-U ♪
[computer chimes]
- Hey! - Hey! All right.
What's up, ladies? Give us an update.
What's been going on with you guys?
- Well, we've just been working,
staying beautiful and wonderful,
like you guys are. - Aw.
- Kimberly, obviously, things didn't work out with Flavour,
but have you found a new Flavour?
- No, not yet. I haven't been seeking.
I'm scared of the fish, you know?
- Still got a bad taste in your mouth.
- Mm-hmm.
- You haven't talked to him since we did, have you?
- Well, he reached out to me
a couple of weeks ago on WhatsApp.
- Oh, my God.
- He just asked how I was doing,
and I was like, "No, I do not miss wasting time."
- Good. And, Diamond, I'm sure you're happy
that you don't have to be chasing after your mom.
- Yes. - You know, if there's love,
it'll find me sooner or later,
but I'm definitely not into the Internet.
It is what it is.
- Diamond, take your mom out
so she can meet some new flavors.
- All right, ladies. - Have a good one.
- Thanks for your help, everyone.
- No problem. - Our pleasure.
both: Bye. - Bye.
[uplifting music]
♪ ♪
[ on an onlinec] virtual social network.
- She's been showing me something
I've never been shown before.
- Except for her face on FaceTime.
Oh, oh, oh! - We got a hit.
"Why is he with you?
He knows the reason why I won't meet him."
Is there something you haven't told us?
- What are you hiding from us, Charles?