1 00:00:03,371 --> 00:00:05,137 - Oh, [bleep]. - "My mom, Kimberly, 2 00:00:05,206 --> 00:00:07,439 "has been dating a man online named Flavour. 3 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,975 He claims to be a famous singer." 4 00:00:10,044 --> 00:00:11,710 - He's really kind and loving. 5 00:00:11,779 --> 00:00:12,711 - And you FaceTimed? 6 00:00:12,780 --> 00:00:14,580 - You are 100% sure 7 00:00:14,648 --> 00:00:15,748 it was that guy? - His face? 8 00:00:15,816 --> 00:00:17,483 - Yes. - Hi. Can you hear us? 9 00:00:21,188 --> 00:00:22,221 - This is your last chance. 10 00:00:22,289 --> 00:00:24,023 Come on the Zoom. Show us who you are. 11 00:00:24,091 --> 00:00:25,424 [computer chimes] 12 00:00:25,493 --> 00:00:27,960 [dramatic musical sting] 13 00:00:28,029 --> 00:00:29,661 Hey! - Hello! 14 00:00:29,730 --> 00:00:31,030 [whoopee cushion toots] 15 00:00:31,098 --> 00:00:32,931 Ew! - [laughs] 16 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,133 - What the-- 17 00:00:34,201 --> 00:00:36,802 - Ew! all: Ew! 18 00:00:36,871 --> 00:00:39,138 - Boo! - I didn't--[stammers] 19 00:00:39,206 --> 00:00:42,074 - [laughs] - I fart all the time, so... 20 00:00:42,143 --> 00:00:43,275 - That's a fact. 21 00:00:43,344 --> 00:00:44,977 - That's not even, like, gross for me. 22 00:00:45,046 --> 00:00:46,812 That's, like, funny. 23 00:00:46,881 --> 00:00:48,280 - Gotcha. - I fell for it. 24 00:00:48,349 --> 00:00:49,515 A classic. - Yes. 25 00:00:49,583 --> 00:00:51,383 - Oh, the double was smart. - We got you. 26 00:00:51,452 --> 00:00:53,352 - I'm so embarrassed. 27 00:00:53,421 --> 00:00:54,353 [laughter] 28 00:00:54,422 --> 00:00:56,388 Okay, let's get into it. 29 00:00:56,457 --> 00:00:59,725 "Please take the Internet away from my mom." 30 00:00:59,794 --> 00:01:00,826 - Oh, [bleep]. - Uh-oh. 31 00:01:00,895 --> 00:01:02,895 "Nev and Kamie, my name is Diamond, 32 00:01:02,963 --> 00:01:04,596 "and I really need your help. 33 00:01:04,665 --> 00:01:07,066 I'm writing on behalf of my mom, Kimberly." 34 00:01:07,134 --> 00:01:10,869 - ♪ It's uncomfortable territory ♪ 35 00:01:10,938 --> 00:01:15,374 - "She's 52 and lives in Fayetteville, North Carolina. 36 00:01:15,443 --> 00:01:18,744 "My mom has a huge heart, but she keeps getting scammed 37 00:01:18,813 --> 00:01:20,712 "and hurt by men on the Internet. 38 00:01:20,781 --> 00:01:22,347 "I think it's happening again. 39 00:01:22,416 --> 00:01:23,482 "She's been dating a man online 40 00:01:23,551 --> 00:01:25,217 "for the past seven months. 41 00:01:25,286 --> 00:01:28,120 "He claims to be some famous singer. 42 00:01:28,189 --> 00:01:30,923 His name is Flavour." 43 00:01:30,991 --> 00:01:32,091 - Flavor Flav? 44 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:34,326 If it's Flavor Flav... - Oh, my God. 45 00:01:34,395 --> 00:01:36,361 - There's no way! 46 00:01:36,430 --> 00:01:38,163 - "I don't know much about their relationship, 47 00:01:38,232 --> 00:01:40,399 "but she's saying they're in love 48 00:01:40,468 --> 00:01:41,567 "and want a future together. 49 00:01:41,635 --> 00:01:43,001 "I know they've never met, 50 00:01:43,070 --> 00:01:45,904 "and I have a bad feeling about him. 51 00:01:45,973 --> 00:01:47,206 "I hope you guys can sort this out 52 00:01:47,274 --> 00:01:49,575 and show my mom that sometimes 53 00:01:49,643 --> 00:01:52,778 "the Internet is not the place to find love. 54 00:01:52,847 --> 00:01:55,214 "Please help my mom! 55 00:01:55,282 --> 00:01:57,249 Diamond." 56 00:01:57,318 --> 00:01:59,251 Oh, my God. It's got to be Flavor Flav. 57 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,686 - [as Flavor Flav] What time is it? 58 00:02:00,754 --> 00:02:02,788 - If it's Flavor Flav, we have got bigger problems. 59 00:02:02,857 --> 00:02:04,423 - [laughs] 60 00:02:04,492 --> 00:02:06,692 - Anyway, all right, we got to help Diamond. 61 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,861 She gave us her number. Let's text her. 62 00:02:08,929 --> 00:02:12,331 "Hey Diamond, can you Zoom?" 63 00:02:12,399 --> 00:02:13,899 - What if it is Flavor Flav, and at the end, 64 00:02:13,968 --> 00:02:15,701 we get to see Flavor Flav? 65 00:02:15,769 --> 00:02:17,102 [as Flavor Flav] You know, Nev, 66 00:02:17,171 --> 00:02:19,238 this happens to me all the time. 67 00:02:19,306 --> 00:02:21,106 That's how he talk. [phone chimes] 68 00:02:21,175 --> 00:02:22,841 - Oh, she wrote back. "Hey, Nev and Kamie. 69 00:02:22,910 --> 00:02:24,710 Thank you for your help. Yes, I can Zoom." 70 00:02:24,778 --> 00:02:25,978 Great. 71 00:02:26,046 --> 00:02:27,880 [computer chimes] - Hey! 72 00:02:27,948 --> 00:02:29,281 - Diamond. - Hi. 73 00:02:29,350 --> 00:02:31,116 - What's up? - Nothing much. 74 00:02:31,185 --> 00:02:33,552 How are you guys doing? - Good. 75 00:02:33,621 --> 00:02:36,788 - Tell us a little bit about your mom, Kimberly. 76 00:02:36,857 --> 00:02:40,759 - Well, for starters, she tends to date online a lot. 77 00:02:40,828 --> 00:02:42,628 She meets a lot of foreigners, and they're like, 78 00:02:42,696 --> 00:02:45,230 "Oh, I just need a couple of dollars to get to you." 79 00:02:45,299 --> 00:02:47,766 - So a number of times before, she's met a guy, 80 00:02:47,835 --> 00:02:50,869 he's swept her off her feet, then asks for money, 81 00:02:50,938 --> 00:02:52,538 and she's sent money? 82 00:02:52,606 --> 00:02:54,706 - Yes. - Like, how much? 83 00:02:54,775 --> 00:02:57,576 - Couple of thousand. - Wow. 84 00:02:57,645 --> 00:02:59,845 - But I'm like, she doesn't seem to get it. 85 00:02:59,914 --> 00:03:01,613 And I'm guessing, like, someone else 86 00:03:01,682 --> 00:03:02,748 has to bring it to her attention 87 00:03:02,816 --> 00:03:03,916 because I'm very hard on her. 88 00:03:03,984 --> 00:03:05,784 - Okay, the most important question: 89 00:03:05,853 --> 00:03:07,653 is your mother talking to Flavor Flav? 90 00:03:07,721 --> 00:03:09,955 - [laughs] I hope not, 91 00:03:10,024 --> 00:03:12,691 but she said the person's name is Flavour. 92 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,527 But this person is from Africa or something, 93 00:03:15,596 --> 00:03:17,796 so Flavor Flav is not from Africa. 94 00:03:17,865 --> 00:03:19,431 - No, he's not. 95 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:21,466 - Does she have any idea that you reached out to us? 96 00:03:21,535 --> 00:03:22,768 - I told her I would. 97 00:03:22,836 --> 00:03:23,835 I've threatened her a couple of times. 98 00:03:23,904 --> 00:03:25,370 - What if you call her, 99 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:27,272 put her on speaker, and then we can talk to her? 100 00:03:27,341 --> 00:03:28,707 - Yeah, I'll call her. 101 00:03:28,776 --> 00:03:30,309 [line trilling] 102 00:03:31,345 --> 00:03:33,445 - Hey, so remember I told you 103 00:03:33,514 --> 00:03:36,915 I was sending a email out to "Catfish"? 104 00:03:38,352 --> 00:03:41,353 - I have Nev and Kamie here. 105 00:03:41,422 --> 00:03:44,523 [laughter] - The people from "Catfish." 106 00:03:44,592 --> 00:03:46,325 - "Who's Nev and Kamie?" 107 00:03:46,393 --> 00:03:47,859 - I'm gonna get them on the phone. Hold on. 108 00:03:47,928 --> 00:03:49,995 - Hello, Kimberly. - Hey, Kimberly. 109 00:03:52,166 --> 00:03:53,565 - How you doing? 110 00:03:57,705 --> 00:04:01,506 - Well, she knows you've been talking to this guy, Flavour, 111 00:04:01,575 --> 00:04:04,876 and was hoping that we could help connect you guys. 112 00:04:07,481 --> 00:04:09,982 - Oh. - You saw his face on camera, 113 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:11,717 talking and everything? 114 00:04:11,785 --> 00:04:12,751 - Wow. 115 00:04:12,820 --> 00:04:16,121 - And you love him? 116 00:04:16,190 --> 00:04:17,522 - It's okay. 117 00:04:17,591 --> 00:04:21,059 - Well, we obviously wanna help you figure this out. 118 00:04:21,128 --> 00:04:22,261 - All right, great. 119 00:04:22,329 --> 00:04:23,962 Well, since Flavour lives in Africa-- 120 00:04:24,031 --> 00:04:25,831 at least, so he says-- 121 00:04:25,899 --> 00:04:27,165 I think it'd just be easier 122 00:04:27,234 --> 00:04:31,403 if you could come here to Los Angeles 123 00:04:31,472 --> 00:04:34,273 to get international flights in and out from here. 124 00:04:34,341 --> 00:04:37,442 Then, obviously, we could either bring him here, 125 00:04:37,511 --> 00:04:39,544 or we could go wherever he is. 126 00:04:41,248 --> 00:04:43,015 - All right, so we'll see you tomorrow. 127 00:04:43,083 --> 00:04:46,418 And we will figure this out. 128 00:04:46,487 --> 00:04:47,953 - All right. - See ya. 129 00:04:48,022 --> 00:04:49,788 Don't worry. She's in good hands. 130 00:04:49,857 --> 00:04:50,789 - Thank you. 131 00:04:50,858 --> 00:04:52,524 - Bye, Diamond. - Bye. 132 00:04:52,593 --> 00:04:54,526 - Whoa, boy. 133 00:04:54,595 --> 00:04:56,628 - I'm not ready to rule this possibility out. 134 00:04:56,697 --> 00:04:59,197 I mean, she saw him and talked to him on a video call. 135 00:04:59,266 --> 00:05:01,933 I think there could be a guy that she's talking to 136 00:05:02,002 --> 00:05:03,235 who looks like the guy in the pictures, 137 00:05:03,304 --> 00:05:05,704 and maybe there's a chance something... 138 00:05:05,773 --> 00:05:07,806 [whines] - I don't know. 139 00:05:07,875 --> 00:05:09,007 What I do know is this 140 00:05:09,076 --> 00:05:12,444 Flavour is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. 141 00:05:12,513 --> 00:05:13,945 Boom! - Wow. 142 00:05:14,014 --> 00:05:15,480 - Yeah! - That was fantastic. 143 00:05:17,151 --> 00:05:19,017 [pensive music] 144 00:05:19,086 --> 00:05:22,354 - All right. Let's go get our girl. 145 00:05:22,423 --> 00:05:24,122 Don't know what Kimberly looks like, 146 00:05:24,191 --> 00:05:25,324 so... - Right. 147 00:05:25,392 --> 00:05:26,792 - I guess we're just on the lookout 148 00:05:26,860 --> 00:05:31,563 for a hopelessly romantic Black woman in her early 50s? 149 00:05:31,632 --> 00:05:34,066 - Is that her with her arms folded right there? 150 00:05:34,134 --> 00:05:36,301 That is her. - Oh, okay, you were right. 151 00:05:36,370 --> 00:05:38,303 - [laughs] The one who looks like she's upset 152 00:05:38,372 --> 00:05:39,638 that her daughter sent her here. 153 00:05:39,707 --> 00:05:42,441 - All right. Let's scoop her. 154 00:05:42,509 --> 00:05:43,608 Kimberly! 155 00:05:43,677 --> 00:05:45,210 - Hey. - Hey! 156 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,246 - [laughs] I was like, that has to be her. 157 00:05:48,315 --> 00:05:49,247 How are you? - How are you? 158 00:05:49,316 --> 00:05:50,282 You're beautiful. - Thank you. 159 00:05:50,351 --> 00:05:51,950 - Oh, my gosh. 160 00:05:52,019 --> 00:05:55,587 - Welcome to Los Angeles. - Thank you for having me. 161 00:05:55,656 --> 00:05:56,822 - All right. 162 00:05:56,890 --> 00:06:00,092 Let's get you out of here. - Okay. 163 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,595 - So we got you set up with a cute, little place to stay, 164 00:06:03,664 --> 00:06:05,864 but before we go there, we thought we'd 165 00:06:05,933 --> 00:06:07,165 get you a drink, get you some lunch. 166 00:06:07,234 --> 00:06:09,134 And then you can tell us everything about Flavour, 167 00:06:09,203 --> 00:06:11,269 and we can sort of really get the lay of the land. 168 00:06:11,338 --> 00:06:13,605 - That'd be nice. 169 00:06:13,674 --> 00:06:15,173 - All right. Let's head on in. 170 00:06:15,242 --> 00:06:17,809 - Let's go. - Okay. 171 00:06:17,878 --> 00:06:20,445 - Let's get some brewskis. 172 00:06:20,514 --> 00:06:21,747 Hi. 173 00:06:21,815 --> 00:06:23,815 This is different for us. 174 00:06:23,884 --> 00:06:24,816 - All right, cheers. - Cheers. 175 00:06:24,885 --> 00:06:26,451 Yay! - Salud. 176 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,154 - I know we're here to talk about Flavour. 177 00:06:29,223 --> 00:06:31,857 That said, your daughter mentioned to us 178 00:06:31,925 --> 00:06:35,894 that you've had a series of guys that you've talked to 179 00:06:35,963 --> 00:06:39,297 that have somehow turned out to be scammy. 180 00:06:39,366 --> 00:06:40,932 - There's just one. - Okay, so it was one guy. 181 00:06:41,001 --> 00:06:42,167 - One guy. - What happened? 182 00:06:42,236 --> 00:06:45,303 - He was a architect from DC. - Oh. 183 00:06:45,372 --> 00:06:46,571 - You met him online? 184 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,539 - Yes. - Okay. 185 00:06:47,608 --> 00:06:49,341 - He had a job in Malaysia, 186 00:06:49,410 --> 00:06:51,376 and he had this horrific accident 187 00:06:51,445 --> 00:06:52,711 while he was there. 188 00:06:52,780 --> 00:06:55,347 And they needed the money before they could provide 189 00:06:55,416 --> 00:06:58,483 any of the medical services for him. 190 00:06:58,552 --> 00:07:00,185 - How much did he need? 191 00:07:00,254 --> 00:07:01,420 - $1,500. 192 00:07:01,488 --> 00:07:02,988 - Okay. So what happened? 193 00:07:03,056 --> 00:07:04,156 - I sent the money. 194 00:07:04,224 --> 00:07:06,291 And then, he disappeared after the surgery, 195 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,559 and then I didn't hear anymore. 196 00:07:07,628 --> 00:07:09,060 I don't know if he's alive or dead or not. 197 00:07:09,129 --> 00:07:11,196 - Hold on a second, are you aware of the fact 198 00:07:11,265 --> 00:07:12,597 that what you just described 199 00:07:12,666 --> 00:07:15,700 is as textbook [bleep] scam as there is? 200 00:07:15,769 --> 00:07:17,068 Right? - Well, I didn't know. 201 00:07:17,137 --> 00:07:20,205 - But, like, in retrospect, you're conscious of that. 202 00:07:20,274 --> 00:07:21,406 - Right. - Right. 203 00:07:21,475 --> 00:07:23,508 So how did you meet Flavour? 204 00:07:23,577 --> 00:07:24,843 - We met on Instagram. 205 00:07:24,912 --> 00:07:27,112 He just went in my mailbox, 206 00:07:27,181 --> 00:07:28,146 or whatever you call it. - He slid in? 207 00:07:28,215 --> 00:07:30,081 - He slid in my DM. - Wow, yeah. 208 00:07:30,150 --> 00:07:32,384 - It was just like, "Hello. How are you?" 209 00:07:32,453 --> 00:07:36,421 And then, he explained who he was and that I was beautiful. 210 00:07:36,490 --> 00:07:38,056 - So out of nowhere, you get a "hello, 211 00:07:38,125 --> 00:07:39,591 how are you?" - Yes. 212 00:07:39,660 --> 00:07:41,927 - And you guys start messaging in Instagram? 213 00:07:41,995 --> 00:07:44,429 - Well, he suggested we get on WhatsApp. 214 00:07:44,498 --> 00:07:47,566 - So you switched to WhatsApp, and you start texting. 215 00:07:47,634 --> 00:07:49,568 - Yes, and call. We call. - Do you talk--oh. 216 00:07:49,636 --> 00:07:52,370 You call him, he calls you? - He does most of the calling. 217 00:07:52,439 --> 00:07:53,672 - You guys talk on the phone a lot? 218 00:07:53,740 --> 00:07:54,873 - A few times a week. 219 00:07:54,942 --> 00:07:56,842 - Wow, that's a lot. - That's a lot. 220 00:07:56,910 --> 00:07:58,109 But when he talks to you, 221 00:07:58,178 --> 00:07:59,478 he has an accent? - Yes. 222 00:07:59,546 --> 00:08:01,847 - What are those calls like, usually? 223 00:08:01,915 --> 00:08:03,448 - We talk about religion 224 00:08:03,517 --> 00:08:05,217 and, you know, what he's working on. 225 00:08:05,285 --> 00:08:06,451 They're pretty flirty. 226 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,719 - How flirty are we talking? 227 00:08:07,788 --> 00:08:09,688 - Like adult flirty. - Oh! 228 00:08:09,756 --> 00:08:11,656 - Uh-huh. - R or X? 229 00:08:13,227 --> 00:08:15,861 - Right, plead the fifth. Plead the fifth. 230 00:08:15,929 --> 00:08:17,295 Drink to that. - [laughs] 231 00:08:17,364 --> 00:08:18,930 - Amen. - What's he like? 232 00:08:18,999 --> 00:08:21,566 - He's really kind and loving, attentive. 233 00:08:21,635 --> 00:08:22,934 He's caring. 234 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:25,203 I like the fact that he's a single parent. 235 00:08:25,272 --> 00:08:27,305 He's being very responsible in that aspect, 236 00:08:27,374 --> 00:08:28,306 and I respect that. 237 00:08:28,375 --> 00:08:30,275 - What about the L word? You guys-- 238 00:08:30,344 --> 00:08:32,777 - Yeah, we've said we love each other. Yes. 239 00:08:32,846 --> 00:08:35,614 - Are you in love with him? - I am. 240 00:08:35,682 --> 00:08:38,517 We're in a relationship. I'm not seeing anyone else, so... 241 00:08:38,585 --> 00:08:40,719 - So it's official. - It's official. 242 00:08:40,787 --> 00:08:43,588 - What about this FaceTime call that you said you had? 243 00:08:43,657 --> 00:08:45,257 - Oh, it was pretty short. 244 00:08:45,325 --> 00:08:47,592 - He called you? - He called me. 245 00:08:47,661 --> 00:08:48,927 - FaceTime? - On WhatsApp. 246 00:08:48,996 --> 00:08:50,295 - Oh, okay, on WhatsApp. - Mm. 247 00:08:50,364 --> 00:08:52,464 - It was only two minutes because it kept buffering... 248 00:08:52,533 --> 00:08:54,466 and cutting out. - Okay. 249 00:08:54,535 --> 00:08:57,702 - But it did work enough for you to confirm, 250 00:08:57,771 --> 00:08:59,271 for yourself, like, oh, this is him. 251 00:08:59,339 --> 00:09:02,007 - That's him, yeah. - Same voice on the phone? 252 00:09:02,075 --> 00:09:03,608 Same guy in the picture? - Same in the video. 253 00:09:03,677 --> 00:09:04,709 - Like, him? 254 00:09:04,778 --> 00:09:06,444 Well, that's good news. - Yeah. 255 00:09:06,513 --> 00:09:09,915 - Has Flavour ever asked you to maybe help financially? 256 00:09:09,983 --> 00:09:11,950 - Yes, there was one time 257 00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:14,185 he asked for some stream card or something-- 258 00:09:14,254 --> 00:09:16,855 I don't know what it was-- to download some music. 259 00:09:16,924 --> 00:09:18,823 I said, "Tell your management to get it. 260 00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:20,191 You know, I'm not doing that." 261 00:09:20,260 --> 00:09:21,760 - Oh, well, can we see his Instagram? 262 00:09:21,828 --> 00:09:22,861 - Sure. - Can you show us 263 00:09:22,930 --> 00:09:24,663 what this guy is all about? 264 00:09:24,731 --> 00:09:26,932 All right, so it says, "King of Africa music. 265 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,233 "Songwriter, producer, guitarist, 266 00:09:28,302 --> 00:09:29,434 live performing dancer." 267 00:09:29,503 --> 00:09:33,405 - Why doesn't he have, like, official Flavour-- 268 00:09:33,473 --> 00:09:34,673 - I don't know. - All right. 269 00:09:34,741 --> 00:09:36,875 And can we see some of your messages? 270 00:09:36,944 --> 00:09:38,243 - Those are our messages. 271 00:09:38,312 --> 00:09:39,544 - Oh, okay, let's take a look here. 272 00:09:39,613 --> 00:09:40,679 All right. Let's see what we got. 273 00:09:40,747 --> 00:09:42,581 Okay, so out of nowhere, you get a "hello." 274 00:09:42,649 --> 00:09:43,782 You said, "Good morning." 275 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:45,550 "My name is Chinedu... 276 00:09:45,619 --> 00:09:49,888 "popularly known as Flavour Nabania as my stage name. 277 00:09:49,957 --> 00:09:51,723 "I'm from Nigeria, though sometimes 278 00:09:51,792 --> 00:09:53,191 "I travel out for my shows. 279 00:09:53,260 --> 00:09:54,526 I admire your beautiful look." 280 00:09:54,595 --> 00:09:58,396 So you talked on Instagram audio a bunch. 281 00:09:58,465 --> 00:09:59,531 He kept saying, "Get WhatsApp." 282 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,099 - He said, "Get it because of me. 283 00:10:01,168 --> 00:10:03,768 My management monitor moves here." 284 00:10:03,837 --> 00:10:05,570 - Oh, so he was worried 285 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:08,473 that, like, his manager would see his IG. 286 00:10:08,542 --> 00:10:10,442 - He's always worried about his management. I'm like, so what? 287 00:10:10,510 --> 00:10:11,943 - So you finally did get on WhatsApp? 288 00:10:12,012 --> 00:10:13,244 - Mm-hmm. - Okay, and let's just see. 289 00:10:13,313 --> 00:10:15,347 I want to see your messages with him. 290 00:10:15,415 --> 00:10:16,581 Oh, there's a lot. 291 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:19,417 Lots of kisses, babes. 292 00:10:19,486 --> 00:10:21,987 - "Babe, can you please get me an iTunes card?" 293 00:10:22,055 --> 00:10:24,022 - Well, that's what the stream card is, 294 00:10:24,091 --> 00:10:25,890 or the iTune or whatever. 295 00:10:25,959 --> 00:10:28,360 That's what I was talking about. 296 00:10:28,428 --> 00:10:30,228 - Then you said, "It's not polite to ask women for money." 297 00:10:30,297 --> 00:10:31,363 - It isn't. - And then, he said, 298 00:10:31,431 --> 00:10:33,431 "Babe, I'm in need of it, my love." 299 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:35,000 You said, Where's your management? That's their job." 300 00:10:35,068 --> 00:10:36,735 - I'm gonna be completely honest with you. 301 00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:40,038 I feel like I am bursting at the seams right now 302 00:10:40,107 --> 00:10:42,774 to tell you that this guy 303 00:10:42,843 --> 00:10:45,076 is not the guy you think that you are talking to. 304 00:10:45,145 --> 00:10:47,912 Flavour's not talking to you from some account that he has 305 00:10:47,981 --> 00:10:49,948 that his management "has access to." 306 00:10:50,017 --> 00:10:52,450 - But you did talk to Flavour on FaceTime. 307 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:54,653 - I did. - So that's what's so crazy. 308 00:10:54,721 --> 00:10:56,855 - I would need to see a screenshot. 309 00:10:56,923 --> 00:10:58,723 - You are 100% sure 310 00:10:58,792 --> 00:11:00,258 it was that guy? - His face? 311 00:11:00,327 --> 00:11:03,495 - It was his face and his voice. 312 00:11:03,563 --> 00:11:05,597 And, you know, we had a conversation. 313 00:11:05,666 --> 00:11:08,099 - Wow. Okay, so obviously, 314 00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:11,569 there is a lot about Flavour that seems legit, 315 00:11:11,638 --> 00:11:14,239 but there's also a lot that's suspicious. 316 00:11:14,307 --> 00:11:16,374 - Right. - Which parts seem legit? 317 00:11:16,443 --> 00:11:18,276 - Well, I don't-- she says she saw him 318 00:11:18,345 --> 00:11:19,844 and talked to him on a video call. 319 00:11:19,913 --> 00:11:22,347 So I'm not sure, obviously, which way this is gonna go. 320 00:11:22,416 --> 00:11:25,316 I'd like to, whoever it is... - Who are you? 321 00:11:25,385 --> 00:11:26,751 - Get you in front of them, 322 00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:28,787 either physically or at least digitally, 323 00:11:28,855 --> 00:11:30,455 to sort of get some answers. 324 00:11:30,524 --> 00:11:31,690 - Join the club. - Yeah. 325 00:11:31,758 --> 00:11:32,991 [laughter] 326 00:11:33,060 --> 00:11:34,392 So here's what I think we should do. 327 00:11:34,461 --> 00:11:35,860 Let's crack this case. 328 00:11:35,929 --> 00:11:37,962 You should go back to your Airbnb. 329 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:39,931 Send us an email with the pictures he sent, 330 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,366 his email, whatever information you have. 331 00:11:41,435 --> 00:11:43,068 And I think we should go back to the office right now 332 00:11:43,136 --> 00:11:44,969 and see what we can find out about this guy. 333 00:11:45,038 --> 00:11:46,738 - Well, thank you. - Of course. 334 00:11:46,807 --> 00:11:48,106 - Don't thank us yet 335 00:11:48,175 --> 00:11:50,542 'cause this Flavour seems a little fishy. 336 00:11:53,647 --> 00:11:56,581 - Hmm! Let's do it! 337 00:11:56,650 --> 00:11:57,682 [farts] 338 00:11:57,751 --> 00:11:59,684 - You did not just cropdust me. 339 00:11:59,753 --> 00:12:01,853 - You walked right into it. - You bastard! 340 00:12:01,922 --> 00:12:03,555 - You could have turned back. 341 00:12:03,623 --> 00:12:06,324 - I don't like the direction our relationship is going in. 342 00:12:06,393 --> 00:12:07,892 You're so annoying. - Well, after you pranked me 343 00:12:07,961 --> 00:12:09,694 with the whoopee cushion earlier, I had to get you back 344 00:12:09,763 --> 00:12:11,763 with a real fart. - That's disgusting. 345 00:12:11,832 --> 00:12:12,864 You sicko. 346 00:12:12,933 --> 00:12:14,399 [whoopee cushion toots] [laughter] 347 00:12:14,468 --> 00:12:16,901 [bleep] you. I am done! 348 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:19,237 - [laughs] - I am done! 349 00:12:19,306 --> 00:12:21,506 Stop bothering me! 350 00:12:21,575 --> 00:12:23,408 - It was so good. - Leave me alone. 351 00:12:23,477 --> 00:12:25,710 Don't get up! - Aah! 352 00:12:25,779 --> 00:12:27,045 Oh, that's good. 353 00:12:27,114 --> 00:12:29,047 Good, old-fashioned jokes. 354 00:12:29,116 --> 00:12:30,348 - Grow up. 355 00:12:30,417 --> 00:12:32,217 - All right, Kimberly-- 356 00:12:32,285 --> 00:12:33,852 out of nowhere, she gets a DM 357 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,722 from some random guy named Flavour from Nigeria. 358 00:12:37,791 --> 00:12:39,357 - Give me a [bleep] break. - Once in a while, 359 00:12:39,426 --> 00:12:42,861 he'll ask her to send some sort of gift card, but she doesn't. 360 00:12:42,929 --> 00:12:44,362 But he continues talking to her. 361 00:12:44,431 --> 00:12:46,131 They did videochat once, 362 00:12:46,199 --> 00:12:49,400 and she swears they were having a conversation, 363 00:12:49,469 --> 00:12:51,870 albeit short, where she could see him. 364 00:12:51,938 --> 00:12:53,404 And that was enough to convince her 365 00:12:53,473 --> 00:12:55,473 that it is really that guy. - No. 366 00:12:55,542 --> 00:12:58,176 I want for you to Google right now the official 367 00:12:58,245 --> 00:13:00,278 Flavour's Instagram. - All right, let's see. 368 00:13:00,347 --> 00:13:01,379 Let's get into it. - Please. 369 00:13:01,448 --> 00:13:04,315 - "Flavour Nigerian musician." 370 00:13:04,384 --> 00:13:06,451 Okay, so here's the guy. 371 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,852 - "2niteflavour." 372 00:13:07,921 --> 00:13:10,755 That's definitely not the Instagram Kimberly has for him. 373 00:13:10,824 --> 00:13:11,756 Wow, look at that-- 374 00:13:11,825 --> 00:13:14,225 4.7 million followers... - Right. 375 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:17,562 That was very easy. - With a verified checkmark. 376 00:13:17,631 --> 00:13:19,597 - Right, right. - Come on now. 377 00:13:19,666 --> 00:13:22,567 - All right, he is, in fact, a famous singer. 378 00:13:22,636 --> 00:13:24,769 Here's the Instagram she has. 379 00:13:24,838 --> 00:13:27,338 Who would have the balls to say, 380 00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:30,275 "I'm Flavour, a famous singer from Nigeria," 381 00:13:30,343 --> 00:13:35,079 when one Google search finds that there is a real Flavour? 382 00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:38,016 - I think Kimberly doesn't have Google. 383 00:13:38,084 --> 00:13:40,118 [laughter] 384 00:13:40,187 --> 00:13:41,753 Because... 385 00:13:41,822 --> 00:13:43,655 - Wait, let's go back. Here's her email. 386 00:13:43,723 --> 00:13:45,023 She says, "Hey, Nev and Kamie. Thank you. 387 00:13:45,091 --> 00:13:46,524 This is what I know about Flavour." 388 00:13:46,593 --> 00:13:48,860 His number on WhatsApp, his Instagram. 389 00:13:48,929 --> 00:13:51,763 We already know he's not the guy in the pictures. 390 00:13:51,832 --> 00:13:54,332 All right, let's just look through his pictures 391 00:13:54,401 --> 00:13:56,601 and see if anyone's made any comments. 392 00:13:56,670 --> 00:13:58,803 Okay. Kuburat. 393 00:13:58,872 --> 00:14:00,872 [tense music] 394 00:14:00,941 --> 00:14:02,874 Kuburat. 395 00:14:02,943 --> 00:14:06,377 Oh. Oh, here's Kuburat again with a comment. 396 00:14:06,446 --> 00:14:09,547 "Thank you for the opportunity. I'm blessed." 397 00:14:09,616 --> 00:14:10,682 - What opportunity? 398 00:14:10,750 --> 00:14:12,050 - Should we message Kuburat 399 00:14:12,118 --> 00:14:13,918 and just see what they know? 400 00:14:13,987 --> 00:14:15,220 - For sure. 401 00:14:15,288 --> 00:14:17,522 - I'll just say, "Hello, my name is Nev. 402 00:14:17,591 --> 00:14:21,526 We would love to speak with you." 403 00:14:21,595 --> 00:14:22,694 I mean, here's my question. 404 00:14:22,762 --> 00:14:24,028 If we show Kimberly this, 405 00:14:24,097 --> 00:14:25,496 is she gonna say, like, "Oh, yeah, see?" 406 00:14:25,565 --> 00:14:27,799 - Mm-hmm. - "He is really famous 407 00:14:27,868 --> 00:14:29,234 and does have a busy life." 408 00:14:29,302 --> 00:14:31,536 - How are we going to convince her that it's not him? 409 00:14:31,605 --> 00:14:34,706 - Should we try to get the real guy to just send us a video? 410 00:14:34,774 --> 00:14:36,407 - Yeah. - All right. 411 00:14:36,476 --> 00:14:41,813 "Hey, Flavour, it appears someone is impersonating you." 412 00:14:41,882 --> 00:14:43,648 All right, so we've now messaged 413 00:14:43,717 --> 00:14:45,717 two people in Nigeria. - Mm-hmm. 414 00:14:45,785 --> 00:14:48,820 - I just--I'm still so hung up on that video call. 415 00:14:48,889 --> 00:14:50,655 - Mm-hmm. - She was so convinced! 416 00:14:50,724 --> 00:14:52,223 - Oh, somebody's calling us. - What? 417 00:14:52,292 --> 00:14:54,425 - WhatsApp. [phone ringing] 418 00:14:54,494 --> 00:14:55,526 - Hello? 419 00:14:57,097 --> 00:14:58,162 - Good morning. 420 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,034 - Yes, we were hoping you could tell us-- 421 00:15:03,103 --> 00:15:06,838 how do you know Flavour, the singer? 422 00:15:08,475 --> 00:15:10,842 - Oh, his assistant. Oh, wow. 423 00:15:10,911 --> 00:15:14,279 Have you met him, or you just work for him, 424 00:15:14,347 --> 00:15:16,247 you know, through the Internet? 425 00:15:18,451 --> 00:15:22,086 - But do you see him and meet with him face to face? 426 00:15:24,958 --> 00:15:25,990 - No. Okay. 427 00:15:26,059 --> 00:15:28,192 So is he paying you? 428 00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:29,193 - Okay. 429 00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:31,429 Has he paid you yet? 430 00:15:31,498 --> 00:15:33,698 - Hi. This is Kamie. 431 00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:37,869 - Hi. Did he hire you from his Instagram? 432 00:15:42,208 --> 00:15:44,909 - Okay. Can you tell us what's his Instagram? 433 00:15:46,646 --> 00:15:48,212 - Two? Okay. 434 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:50,782 What's one of the names of the Instagram? 435 00:15:52,552 --> 00:15:55,553 - Okay, and the other one is-- 436 00:15:57,524 --> 00:15:59,424 - Why does he have two? 437 00:16:03,897 --> 00:16:08,566 - We're trying to help a woman in the United States. 438 00:16:08,635 --> 00:16:11,669 We're worried that she's being lied to, 439 00:16:11,738 --> 00:16:14,806 and I'm also worried that you're being lied to. 440 00:16:18,244 --> 00:16:20,745 - But how do you know it's really Flavour? 441 00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:25,850 - You mean you met him on videochat? 442 00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:33,424 - Okay, well, thank you so much for your help. 443 00:16:35,028 --> 00:16:36,327 - Bye. 444 00:16:38,098 --> 00:16:39,530 - I'm so confused. 445 00:16:39,599 --> 00:16:42,800 Somehow, whoever is catfishing Kimberly 446 00:16:42,869 --> 00:16:45,336 has also convinced this other woman 447 00:16:45,405 --> 00:16:46,938 to be his personal assistant. 448 00:16:47,007 --> 00:16:50,174 For all we know, some guy that somehow looks like him enough 449 00:16:50,243 --> 00:16:52,010 is convincing these women that it's him. 450 00:16:52,078 --> 00:16:53,644 [sighs] 451 00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:58,082 Maybe someone who does actually work for Flavour 452 00:16:58,151 --> 00:17:03,588 made this fake account and uses it to, like, scam women 453 00:17:03,656 --> 00:17:06,691 because he has access to the real Flavour. 454 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,192 I know. It's a stretch. 455 00:17:08,261 --> 00:17:09,794 I'm just trying to come up 456 00:17:09,863 --> 00:17:11,896 with something that makes any sense. 457 00:17:11,965 --> 00:17:13,865 - Well, if this is someone that works for the real Flavour, 458 00:17:13,933 --> 00:17:16,234 they need to be fired. 459 00:17:16,302 --> 00:17:19,070 - All I know is that this whole Flavour situation 460 00:17:19,139 --> 00:17:20,805 just got a lot spicier. 461 00:17:22,809 --> 00:17:25,943 - We are going to have to convince Kimberly 462 00:17:26,012 --> 00:17:29,313 that she is not talking to who she thinks she's talking to. 463 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:31,149 - Yeah. Like, come on. 464 00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:34,185 At some point, you have to realize that you're being 465 00:17:34,254 --> 00:17:35,987 taken advantage of. - Yeah. 466 00:17:36,056 --> 00:17:38,122 Okay. Shall we? - Yeah. 467 00:17:38,191 --> 00:17:39,757 [dramatic music] 468 00:17:39,826 --> 00:17:40,992 - Oh, yeah. - Wow! 469 00:17:41,061 --> 00:17:41,993 - This is nice. - How are you? 470 00:17:42,062 --> 00:17:43,294 - Hi. - Great morning. 471 00:17:43,363 --> 00:17:45,663 - Good to see you. - Great morning. 472 00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:46,931 - This is lovely. - Cute. 473 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,734 - All right. So how are you feeling? 474 00:17:49,803 --> 00:17:52,570 - I'm nervous just to see 475 00:17:52,639 --> 00:17:55,773 if you found anything... interesting. 476 00:17:55,842 --> 00:17:56,941 - All right. Well, look. 477 00:17:57,010 --> 00:17:58,843 We have some things to discuss, 478 00:17:58,912 --> 00:18:01,446 so why don't we just dive in? - Okay. 479 00:18:01,514 --> 00:18:04,182 - The first thing we did was we said, okay, who is this guy? 480 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:05,416 He says he's a famous singer. 481 00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:07,285 Surely we can find him, right? 482 00:18:07,353 --> 00:18:08,920 And sure enough, he is, 483 00:18:08,988 --> 00:18:10,855 but this is not the page you've been looking at. 484 00:18:10,924 --> 00:18:13,691 This is his actual verified page. 485 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,526 And he's got almost 5 million followers. 486 00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:17,528 - Oh, my. 487 00:18:17,597 --> 00:18:19,030 Oh, my gosh. 488 00:18:19,099 --> 00:18:21,999 - Had you just Googled him, you would have found this too, 489 00:18:22,068 --> 00:18:23,134 I mean, 'cause this is just 490 00:18:23,203 --> 00:18:25,203 very available, public information. 491 00:18:25,271 --> 00:18:26,871 - I don't have time to be looking, but-- 492 00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:28,005 - What? 493 00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:29,207 - Because I take people at their word. 494 00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:30,374 - But, like--okay. 495 00:18:30,443 --> 00:18:31,709 Who is your favorite singer? 496 00:18:31,778 --> 00:18:32,977 - Beyoncé, of course. - Beyoncé. 497 00:18:33,046 --> 00:18:34,078 Okay, so Beyoncé. 498 00:18:34,147 --> 00:18:35,980 So you know Beyoncé has Instagram, 499 00:18:36,049 --> 00:18:37,815 and she has a verified checkmark. 500 00:18:37,884 --> 00:18:39,650 That is Beyoncé's page. 501 00:18:39,719 --> 00:18:44,822 Now if BeyHive555 DMs you 502 00:18:44,891 --> 00:18:46,390 and says, "Hey, it's Beyoncé. 503 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,326 I'm talking to you from this page," 504 00:18:48,394 --> 00:18:49,894 what would you think? 505 00:18:49,963 --> 00:18:50,995 - Whatever. 506 00:18:51,064 --> 00:18:52,663 "Well, what you need, girl? 507 00:18:52,732 --> 00:18:54,165 What you need?" 508 00:18:54,234 --> 00:18:55,800 - Kimberly... 509 00:18:55,869 --> 00:18:57,502 There is no way! 510 00:18:57,570 --> 00:18:58,936 - I'm telling you, I'm not into this. 511 00:18:59,005 --> 00:19:00,238 - I don't think there's anything we can do for you. 512 00:19:00,306 --> 00:19:01,772 [laughter] - What do you mean? 513 00:19:01,841 --> 00:19:04,375 - Okay. - I think we should go. 514 00:19:04,444 --> 00:19:06,511 - I don't know what we can do for you! 515 00:19:06,579 --> 00:19:08,012 - So... 516 00:19:08,081 --> 00:19:09,680 - I love your optimism. 517 00:19:09,749 --> 00:19:11,215 - You just... 518 00:19:11,284 --> 00:19:13,518 It's beautiful. It's beautiful to see. 519 00:19:13,586 --> 00:19:15,353 - But again, you understand the odds 520 00:19:15,421 --> 00:19:19,056 of this superstar Nigerian singer-songwriter 521 00:19:19,125 --> 00:19:20,458 hitting you up-- 522 00:19:20,527 --> 00:19:24,462 - I didn't even know what the capacity of his fame was. 523 00:19:24,531 --> 00:19:25,763 - But now that you do, 524 00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:27,632 do you still think you're talking to this guy? 525 00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:30,568 [suspenseful music] 526 00:19:30,637 --> 00:19:32,370 - I don't think so. - Okay. 527 00:19:32,438 --> 00:19:35,373 [solemn music] 528 00:19:35,441 --> 00:19:36,707 ♪ ♪ 529 00:19:36,776 --> 00:19:38,809 - [emotionally] I got duped again. 530 00:19:41,314 --> 00:19:44,115 - Why do you think you got duped again? 531 00:19:44,184 --> 00:19:47,418 - Because I give everybody the benefit of the doubt. 532 00:19:47,487 --> 00:19:49,954 But I learned another lesson. 533 00:19:50,023 --> 00:19:51,989 It's sad, but it's true. 534 00:19:52,058 --> 00:19:53,524 - Especially if you have a kind heart 535 00:19:53,593 --> 00:19:55,092 and you're a good person, 536 00:19:55,161 --> 00:19:57,628 people will take full advantage. 537 00:19:57,697 --> 00:20:00,097 - Why would you do that? Like, what is your problem? 538 00:20:00,166 --> 00:20:01,432 - Mm-hmm. - You know? 539 00:20:01,501 --> 00:20:03,834 Like, this is absolutely unnecessary. 540 00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:05,903 [clicks tongue] So... 541 00:20:05,972 --> 00:20:10,308 - Well, to completely confirm, I did DM the real Flavour. 542 00:20:10,376 --> 00:20:11,576 And I'm waiting to see if he'll write back. 543 00:20:11,644 --> 00:20:13,177 So far, he hasn't. 544 00:20:13,246 --> 00:20:14,245 - Did he open it? 545 00:20:14,314 --> 00:20:16,747 - Mm, no. 546 00:20:16,816 --> 00:20:18,683 So the last thing that we did was 547 00:20:18,751 --> 00:20:21,519 we went through the page that you are friends with. 548 00:20:21,588 --> 00:20:23,087 Not a lot of people leave comments, 549 00:20:23,156 --> 00:20:25,156 but one person did leave one comment. 550 00:20:25,225 --> 00:20:27,191 So we messaged this person. 551 00:20:27,260 --> 00:20:28,960 She called us. 552 00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:31,028 A young woman's voice came on, 553 00:20:31,097 --> 00:20:35,199 speaking English but clearly from Nigeria. 554 00:20:35,268 --> 00:20:37,301 And we asked her, "Oh, hey, you know, 555 00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:40,004 we saw that you're friends with 'Flavour.'" 556 00:20:40,073 --> 00:20:43,174 And she said, "He recently gave me a job 557 00:20:43,243 --> 00:20:45,343 as his personal assistant." 558 00:20:45,411 --> 00:20:47,011 And I said, "Well, have you been paid?" 559 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,180 She said, "Well, not yet 'cause I just started." 560 00:20:49,249 --> 00:20:52,250 So it sounds like somebody has this poor girl believing 561 00:20:52,318 --> 00:20:54,285 that she's his personal assistant. 562 00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:57,989 And considering that he asked you to help him financially, 563 00:20:58,057 --> 00:20:59,490 like, maybe there are other people, 564 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:03,861 and maybe this is part of an elaborate, larger scam. 565 00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:06,664 So who's running that account? 566 00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:08,199 - The only thing that I have 567 00:21:08,268 --> 00:21:11,302 is that I did see him on that videochat. 568 00:21:11,371 --> 00:21:16,374 - You are certain the person on that call was this guy? 569 00:21:16,442 --> 00:21:18,376 - Unless he has a twin... - Okay. 570 00:21:18,444 --> 00:21:21,545 - Or someone that looks very, very similar to him. 571 00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:24,649 - Okay, if you're so sure 572 00:21:24,717 --> 00:21:27,885 that you videochatted with him, 573 00:21:27,954 --> 00:21:29,520 you'd presumably have to be talking 574 00:21:29,589 --> 00:21:31,756 to someone who has access to him, 575 00:21:31,824 --> 00:21:35,860 'cause how else would they get a phone in his hands 576 00:21:35,928 --> 00:21:37,261 to talk to you? 577 00:21:39,265 --> 00:21:41,666 - That's the only thing. The videos got me tripping. 578 00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:44,835 - Yeah, so all of this brings us to the now. 579 00:21:44,904 --> 00:21:47,338 The only thing left to do would be to message him. 580 00:21:47,407 --> 00:21:49,040 - I think so. - All right. 581 00:21:49,108 --> 00:21:51,676 "Hello, this is Nev from the MTV show, 'Catfish.' 582 00:21:51,744 --> 00:21:52,777 "I'd love to speak with you 583 00:21:52,845 --> 00:21:54,078 "about your relationship with Kimberly. 584 00:21:54,147 --> 00:21:55,513 "Please get back to me as soon as you can. 585 00:21:55,581 --> 00:21:57,381 Thanks." All right. 586 00:21:57,450 --> 00:21:59,850 - He probably won't respond. 587 00:21:59,919 --> 00:22:01,085 - [gasps] He read it. - Ooh! 588 00:22:01,154 --> 00:22:02,553 Oh, that double check means he's read it? 589 00:22:02,622 --> 00:22:03,954 - Mm-hmm. 590 00:22:04,023 --> 00:22:05,556 Typing. - Oh! 591 00:22:05,625 --> 00:22:07,758 - Typing, typing. - Oh! 592 00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:10,061 He said, "Hello." Okay. 593 00:22:10,129 --> 00:22:13,230 Oh! He said, "What's wrong?" 594 00:22:13,299 --> 00:22:15,366 [ominous music] 595 00:22:15,435 --> 00:22:18,069 - Aah. - Everything's wrong, babe. 596 00:22:18,137 --> 00:22:23,441 - "We know that you and Kimberly 597 00:22:23,509 --> 00:22:27,578 "have been talking for a while. 598 00:22:27,647 --> 00:22:30,948 "Would you be available 599 00:22:31,017 --> 00:22:36,020 to do a video call?" 600 00:22:36,089 --> 00:22:38,756 Oh! He says, "I can video call for a second." 601 00:22:38,825 --> 00:22:40,624 Okay. 602 00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:44,328 - What did I get myself into? 603 00:22:44,397 --> 00:22:45,596 - It's okay. 604 00:22:45,665 --> 00:22:48,799 [suspenseful music] 605 00:22:48,868 --> 00:22:51,335 My God, the suspense is killing me. 606 00:22:51,404 --> 00:22:52,336 Oh! 607 00:22:52,405 --> 00:22:55,406 [phone chiming] 608 00:22:55,475 --> 00:22:56,941 Should we answer it? - Yes. 609 00:22:57,009 --> 00:22:58,175 - Open it. 610 00:22:58,244 --> 00:23:01,011 ♪ ♪ 611 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,279 - Hello? - What? 612 00:23:04,751 --> 00:23:06,350 [suspenseful music] 613 00:23:06,419 --> 00:23:09,086 - My God, the suspense is killing me. 614 00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:10,087 Oh! 615 00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:13,324 [phone chiming] 616 00:23:13,393 --> 00:23:14,658 Should we answer it? - Yes. 617 00:23:14,727 --> 00:23:18,396 ♪ ♪ 618 00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:19,430 - Hello? 619 00:23:19,499 --> 00:23:20,498 - [gasps] 620 00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:22,666 - Hello. 621 00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:24,235 Hello? - How are you? 622 00:23:26,639 --> 00:23:27,671 - Hold on. 623 00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:33,844 Chile, that is more than just a bad connection. 624 00:23:33,913 --> 00:23:35,980 - Uh, he--oh! 625 00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:37,681 Oh, my God. 626 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:39,016 Is that similar to what it looked like 627 00:23:39,085 --> 00:23:40,518 when you spoke to him before? - Mm-hmm. 628 00:23:40,586 --> 00:23:42,119 - All right, so what he just did 629 00:23:42,188 --> 00:23:44,955 was he found a video of the real guy, 630 00:23:45,024 --> 00:23:47,491 and he just literally was filming the screen. 631 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,127 I could see the screen, like, moving. 632 00:23:50,196 --> 00:23:52,229 - Wow. - The audacity. 633 00:23:52,298 --> 00:23:53,798 He's typing. - Oh! 634 00:23:53,866 --> 00:23:55,099 - Tell him to save it. 635 00:23:55,168 --> 00:23:57,067 [phone dings] 636 00:23:57,136 --> 00:23:58,803 - He says, "I have a bad network here." 637 00:23:58,871 --> 00:24:00,104 - No, you're bad. 638 00:24:00,173 --> 00:24:02,540 - That was the same video he called me with. 639 00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:04,475 - It was the same video? 640 00:24:04,544 --> 00:24:06,977 - If I'm not mistaken, I think it is. 641 00:24:08,147 --> 00:24:09,280 - It's okay. 642 00:24:09,348 --> 00:24:10,481 Live and learn. Live and learn. 643 00:24:12,552 --> 00:24:14,919 [phone dings] Oh! 644 00:24:14,987 --> 00:24:17,621 "I didn't know she had doubts about me." 645 00:24:19,592 --> 00:24:23,461 Clearly, he is standing strong. 646 00:24:23,529 --> 00:24:25,095 - He's committed to the lie. 647 00:24:25,164 --> 00:24:26,630 - So what do you wanna do? 648 00:24:26,699 --> 00:24:28,599 - Fry that fish, please. 649 00:24:28,668 --> 00:24:30,000 Hard. 650 00:24:30,069 --> 00:24:32,503 Hard as you can fry it. - Okay. 651 00:24:32,572 --> 00:24:34,104 "We know you're not the real Flavour 652 00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:36,640 "and that was just a video from your computer. 653 00:24:36,709 --> 00:24:39,143 "You can't lie to us or Kimberly anymore. 654 00:24:39,212 --> 00:24:43,814 Would you like to try telling us the truth?" 655 00:24:43,883 --> 00:24:47,117 - Just man up and tell the truth. 656 00:24:47,186 --> 00:24:50,087 [pensive music] 657 00:24:50,156 --> 00:24:53,691 ♪ ♪ 658 00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:56,160 - I don't know if he's not planning on responding 659 00:24:56,229 --> 00:24:57,628 or if he's intentionally ignoring us, 660 00:24:57,697 --> 00:25:00,030 but I think, for the moment, it looks like 661 00:25:00,099 --> 00:25:03,100 "Flavour" is taking his sweet-ass time. 662 00:25:03,169 --> 00:25:05,002 - Mm-hmm. 663 00:25:05,071 --> 00:25:07,338 - All right, so what do we do? - Yeah, I mean, look. 664 00:25:07,406 --> 00:25:08,873 The ball's now in his court, 665 00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:12,309 so let's let him sit on it, let him think. 666 00:25:12,378 --> 00:25:13,811 In the meantime, we can all grab lunch, 667 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,079 do whatever you wanna do. 668 00:25:15,147 --> 00:25:18,115 And if we hear something, you hear something, 669 00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:20,217 let us know, and we'll just regroup in a little bit. 670 00:25:20,286 --> 00:25:21,285 - Okay. - Does that work? 671 00:25:21,354 --> 00:25:22,653 - That works for me. 672 00:25:22,722 --> 00:25:24,989 - All right. 673 00:25:25,057 --> 00:25:27,324 - Thank you so much. - I'll speak to you soon. 674 00:25:27,393 --> 00:25:29,326 - Thank you. - Of course. 675 00:25:32,698 --> 00:25:33,764 Poor Kimberly. 676 00:25:33,833 --> 00:25:36,534 - [sighs] I know. 677 00:25:36,602 --> 00:25:37,868 - Well, we had to tell her. 678 00:25:37,937 --> 00:25:39,503 Like, she has to know these things, 679 00:25:39,572 --> 00:25:42,373 because if not, she's gonna fall for it every single time. 680 00:25:42,441 --> 00:25:43,474 - I know. 681 00:25:43,543 --> 00:25:45,142 He probably just used his little clips, 682 00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:47,011 where he's like, "Yeah. Yeah, baby." 683 00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:48,445 And then the connection drops, 684 00:25:48,514 --> 00:25:49,980 and then he gets back on all the time. 685 00:25:50,049 --> 00:25:51,849 - That saddened me. - Yeah. 686 00:25:51,918 --> 00:25:54,184 This looks like a good spot for lunch. 687 00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:55,886 [phone dings] Oh, [bleep]! 688 00:25:55,955 --> 00:25:56,987 [laughs] 689 00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:59,523 I literally just got a message back 690 00:25:59,592 --> 00:26:01,358 from real Flavour. 691 00:26:01,427 --> 00:26:02,426 - What did he say? 692 00:26:02,495 --> 00:26:04,461 - He said, "Hey, Nev, I can talk. 693 00:26:04,530 --> 00:26:06,263 Can you give me about 30 minutes?" 694 00:26:06,332 --> 00:26:08,065 - Yes, yes. - Wow. 695 00:26:08,134 --> 00:26:09,900 - Perfect. - Amazing. 696 00:26:09,969 --> 00:26:13,637 Let's go back to Kimberly's so that we can FaceTime with him. 697 00:26:13,706 --> 00:26:15,673 - Oh, boy. - Oh, here we go. 698 00:26:15,741 --> 00:26:18,175 - This story's starting to turn around. 699 00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:19,877 [dramatic music] 700 00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:21,278 All right, we're back. 701 00:26:21,347 --> 00:26:23,213 Shortest ride... - Do it again. 702 00:26:23,282 --> 00:26:25,015 - In "Catfish" history, I think. 703 00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:29,553 ♪ ♪ 704 00:26:29,622 --> 00:26:30,721 [knocks on door] 705 00:26:32,658 --> 00:26:33,757 Hi, we're back. - Hello! 706 00:26:33,826 --> 00:26:35,259 Come on in. Come on in. 707 00:26:35,328 --> 00:26:37,695 - Well, as we were leaving, the real Flavour... 708 00:26:37,763 --> 00:26:39,797 - Oh, my gosh. - DM'ed me back 709 00:26:39,865 --> 00:26:43,434 and said he'd be willing to video call with us. 710 00:26:43,502 --> 00:26:45,436 - Okay. - So we thought, very least, 711 00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:48,439 it'd be nice for you just to finally get 712 00:26:48,507 --> 00:26:49,740 to actually speak to the real guy 713 00:26:49,809 --> 00:26:52,042 to completely confirm that it's not him. 714 00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:54,812 - Right. - So let's sit back down. 715 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,013 - All right. - All right? 716 00:26:56,082 --> 00:27:01,251 And I'll send him a link to our Zoom. 717 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,589 "We are ready when you are." 718 00:27:05,658 --> 00:27:07,091 Sending it. Okay. 719 00:27:09,028 --> 00:27:10,394 - You think it's gonna be weird? 720 00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:12,997 - It's been weird. - Right, that's true. 721 00:27:13,065 --> 00:27:14,598 - Oh! - Oh! 722 00:27:14,667 --> 00:27:16,100 - Oh! 723 00:27:16,168 --> 00:27:17,601 Hello. 724 00:27:17,670 --> 00:27:19,103 - Hey! - Yes. 725 00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:22,840 Thank you so much for being willing to talk to us. 726 00:27:22,908 --> 00:27:25,476 Are you familiar with the show "Catfish"? 727 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,913 - Okay, we're filming an episode of the show, 728 00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:31,482 and we're here with Kimberly. 729 00:27:31,550 --> 00:27:34,785 And for the last six or so months, 730 00:27:34,854 --> 00:27:37,221 Kimberly has been interacting with someone 731 00:27:37,289 --> 00:27:39,823 from Nigeria who... - Oh, wow. 732 00:27:39,892 --> 00:27:42,359 - Has been essentially pretending to be you. 733 00:27:45,831 --> 00:27:47,965 - So we just wanted to completely confirm 734 00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:50,634 that it is not you 735 00:27:50,703 --> 00:27:52,336 that Kimberly has been talking to. 736 00:28:20,633 --> 00:28:22,733 - Right. Okay. - I see. 737 00:28:22,802 --> 00:28:25,569 Well, I apologize for all of this drama. 738 00:28:25,638 --> 00:28:27,871 This is drama. - Well, yeah, but-- 739 00:28:27,940 --> 00:28:29,139 - But it's not your fault. 740 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:30,874 - Right. - No, it isn't. 741 00:28:30,943 --> 00:28:33,544 And it's not his either. - Right. 742 00:28:33,612 --> 00:28:36,880 - Well, we really appreciate you clearing all that up. 743 00:28:36,949 --> 00:28:38,015 - Thank you. 744 00:28:42,755 --> 00:28:43,987 - I won't. - Keep going. 745 00:28:44,056 --> 00:28:45,422 - It has nothing to do with you. 746 00:28:45,491 --> 00:28:47,324 [laughter] 747 00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:48,992 - All right. Thank you so much, Flavour. 748 00:28:53,466 --> 00:28:54,832 - This is too much. 749 00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:56,066 I can forgive you 750 00:28:56,135 --> 00:28:58,168 because that's what God requires me to do, 751 00:28:58,237 --> 00:29:01,405 but there's no way he can rectify what he did. 752 00:29:01,474 --> 00:29:02,539 - Right. 753 00:29:02,608 --> 00:29:04,408 - Still no word from fake Flavour. 754 00:29:04,477 --> 00:29:06,276 - Still nothing? He hasn't even looked at it? 755 00:29:08,681 --> 00:29:10,781 All right, I'm gonna send a video 756 00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:14,785 because maybe that'll be more personal and disarming. 757 00:29:14,854 --> 00:29:16,720 - Mm-hmm. - Hello. 758 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:18,689 As you know, we're here with Kimberly. 759 00:29:18,758 --> 00:29:20,924 Kimberly is obviously disappointed, 760 00:29:20,993 --> 00:29:25,629 but she's also considering forgiving you 761 00:29:25,698 --> 00:29:28,031 if you're willing to tell us the truth. 762 00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,701 And I think Kimberly deserves that. 763 00:29:30,770 --> 00:29:33,403 So please get back to us as soon as you can. 764 00:29:33,472 --> 00:29:34,805 Okay. 765 00:29:34,874 --> 00:29:37,274 [tense music] 766 00:29:37,343 --> 00:29:40,811 - He could care less. He's like, "On to the next." 767 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,212 - I mean, look, we have to be prepared 768 00:29:42,281 --> 00:29:45,415 that perhaps he is just on to the next. 769 00:29:45,484 --> 00:29:47,684 - I feel bad for the next person 770 00:29:47,753 --> 00:29:51,355 or whoever else he's, you know, toying with. 771 00:29:51,423 --> 00:29:52,990 - Look. - Oh, oh! 772 00:29:53,058 --> 00:29:54,424 Ooh, he's typing. 773 00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:56,927 He's typing. 774 00:29:56,996 --> 00:29:59,163 - He's trying to get that lie straight. 775 00:29:59,231 --> 00:30:00,430 - Mm. 776 00:30:00,499 --> 00:30:02,833 [phone dings] - Oh. 777 00:30:02,902 --> 00:30:06,170 He says, "It will be great to talk to my manager. 778 00:30:06,238 --> 00:30:10,140 And this is a U.S. TV show, and I should get paid." 779 00:30:10,209 --> 00:30:11,508 - What? - Good night! 780 00:30:11,577 --> 00:30:14,178 ♪ ♪ 781 00:30:14,246 --> 00:30:16,380 - Mm-mm-mm. 782 00:30:16,448 --> 00:30:17,781 - Let's go. 783 00:30:17,850 --> 00:30:18,816 Pack it up. - I mean-- 784 00:30:18,884 --> 00:30:20,918 - Oh, my God. - We're leaving. 785 00:30:20,986 --> 00:30:23,053 Tell him to talk to my ass. 786 00:30:23,122 --> 00:30:24,588 Is he out of his mind? 787 00:30:26,258 --> 00:30:27,324 - Oh! He says, "It will be great 788 00:30:27,393 --> 00:30:29,092 "to talk to my manager. 789 00:30:29,161 --> 00:30:32,830 This is a U.S. TV show, and I should get paid." 790 00:30:32,898 --> 00:30:35,165 - What? - Good night! 791 00:30:36,569 --> 00:30:39,369 - Mm-mm-mm. 792 00:30:39,438 --> 00:30:40,804 - Let's go. 793 00:30:40,873 --> 00:30:41,805 Pack it up. - I mean-- 794 00:30:41,874 --> 00:30:43,974 - Oh, my God. - We're leaving. 795 00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:46,543 Tell him to talk to my ass. 796 00:30:46,612 --> 00:30:48,278 Is he out of his mind? 797 00:30:48,347 --> 00:30:49,279 - Oh, my God. - No. 798 00:30:49,348 --> 00:30:50,681 Stop. 799 00:30:50,749 --> 00:30:52,649 - Oh, my gosh. 800 00:30:52,718 --> 00:30:53,917 - We're gonna pray for you. 801 00:30:53,986 --> 00:30:55,452 We have to go. Pack it up. 802 00:30:55,521 --> 00:30:56,787 - I just wanna-- 803 00:30:56,856 --> 00:30:58,822 God, I just wanna get to the finish line. 804 00:30:58,891 --> 00:31:01,258 You know what I mean? Like, we came all this way. 805 00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:03,794 We ran this marathon. - Unbelievable. 806 00:31:03,863 --> 00:31:05,996 - And it's like we're so close, you know? 807 00:31:06,065 --> 00:31:07,631 - I will pay him with one of these... 808 00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:10,367 - Pay you no mind. - And one of these. 809 00:31:10,436 --> 00:31:12,135 - Right. 810 00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:13,871 - I mean--yes. - I got two more. 811 00:31:13,939 --> 00:31:15,939 "Yes, you will get paid, 812 00:31:16,008 --> 00:31:21,144 "but we need to video call with you now." 813 00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:22,613 - You gotta talk to his management, Nev. 814 00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:24,815 - "Here is a link." 815 00:31:24,884 --> 00:31:25,849 - We should get paid 816 00:31:25,918 --> 00:31:27,718 for you wasting our time-- - Right. 817 00:31:27,786 --> 00:31:29,219 - Let me get my Zoom open again just in case. 818 00:31:29,288 --> 00:31:30,954 - For the past three hours. - Right? 819 00:31:31,023 --> 00:31:32,689 - So he has our Zoom info. 820 00:31:35,094 --> 00:31:37,127 - I don't wanna talk to him. 821 00:31:37,196 --> 00:31:40,731 - "We are ready for you." 822 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:43,800 - I should get paid. 823 00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:45,903 - He was typing. 824 00:31:45,971 --> 00:31:47,304 Oh, he says, 825 00:31:47,373 --> 00:31:49,539 "Until we settle with money, I don't wanna videochat. 826 00:31:49,608 --> 00:31:51,308 My manager is here now. Please talk to him." 827 00:31:51,377 --> 00:31:53,377 Okay, you want me to talk to your manager, 828 00:31:53,445 --> 00:31:55,913 put him on. - [yawns] Yeah, put him on. 829 00:31:55,981 --> 00:31:57,281 - I don't think he's gonna surface. 830 00:31:57,349 --> 00:31:59,149 - You don't think so? - Me either. 831 00:31:59,218 --> 00:32:00,250 - Oh, oh! 832 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:02,019 Someone just came in the Zoom. Hold on. 833 00:32:02,087 --> 00:32:04,521 Hello? Anyone there? 834 00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:05,789 Hello? 835 00:32:07,192 --> 00:32:09,259 - Yes. Hi. Can you hear us? 836 00:32:12,064 --> 00:32:14,431 - Alexander. Hello. How are you? 837 00:32:15,267 --> 00:32:16,266 - Okay. 838 00:32:18,804 --> 00:32:20,771 - Yeah, we do. - Okay. 839 00:32:25,044 --> 00:32:28,245 - So you want us to send a money transfer? 840 00:32:31,884 --> 00:32:33,750 - Well, can we send... 841 00:32:37,089 --> 00:32:38,121 - Right. 842 00:32:41,393 --> 00:32:43,260 - Right. All right. Well, so look. 843 00:32:43,329 --> 00:32:45,562 I understand you feel like 844 00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:48,131 if you show us who you are 845 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,669 or if you get "Flavour" to come on, 846 00:32:52,738 --> 00:32:55,205 you may not end up getting paid. 847 00:32:55,274 --> 00:32:58,008 I can tell you, we will pay you. 848 00:32:58,077 --> 00:32:59,343 I can also tell you that 849 00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:03,313 I know you're not Flavour's manager and that-- 850 00:33:05,117 --> 00:33:09,686 - We just had a very nice call--a videochat-- 851 00:33:09,755 --> 00:33:12,122 with the real Flavour, the artist. 852 00:33:12,191 --> 00:33:13,190 - For free. 853 00:33:15,794 --> 00:33:16,793 - You cannot-- 854 00:33:19,999 --> 00:33:21,898 - Well, then ask him. - To get back on. 855 00:33:21,967 --> 00:33:23,200 - We just spoke to him. 856 00:33:35,948 --> 00:33:37,114 - [chuckles] 857 00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:40,951 - I think it's clear that you wanna get paid. 858 00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:43,487 And like I said, we will absolutely pay you, 859 00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:45,622 but I'm not going to just send that to you 860 00:33:45,691 --> 00:33:48,458 because I don't know 861 00:33:48,527 --> 00:33:50,961 that you'll then actually talk to us. 862 00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:54,131 And based on the fact that I know you're lying 863 00:33:54,199 --> 00:33:58,268 about being Flavour and also being Flavour's manager, 864 00:33:58,337 --> 00:34:00,137 I have to assume that you're also lying 865 00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:02,172 about getting "Flavour" to talk to us 866 00:34:02,241 --> 00:34:03,340 once we've sent you the money. 867 00:34:03,409 --> 00:34:05,776 So this is your last chance. 868 00:34:05,844 --> 00:34:06,943 Take it or leave it. 869 00:34:07,012 --> 00:34:09,579 Come on the Zoom, show us who you are, 870 00:34:09,648 --> 00:34:12,315 but if you don't do that, we'll just have to say goodbye. 871 00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:14,418 And that'll be that. You won't have money. 872 00:34:19,825 --> 00:34:22,993 - Okay, so I guess that's it. Thank you anyway. 873 00:34:23,062 --> 00:34:25,062 I hope that you don't need to lie anymore 874 00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:27,898 and catfish people and pretend to be Flavour. 875 00:34:27,966 --> 00:34:29,199 - It's disrespectful. 876 00:34:29,268 --> 00:34:31,068 - It's rude and disrespectful--oh! 877 00:34:32,771 --> 00:34:33,870 - So I guess that's it. 878 00:34:33,939 --> 00:34:35,072 I hope that you don't need to lie anymore 879 00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:36,106 and catfish people. 880 00:34:36,175 --> 00:34:37,541 - It's disrespectful. 881 00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:39,609 - It's rude and disrespectful. 882 00:34:39,678 --> 00:34:40,577 Oh! 883 00:34:40,646 --> 00:34:42,579 [tense music] 884 00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:43,780 - Oh, wow. 885 00:34:43,849 --> 00:34:44,981 - Hello. - Hi. 886 00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:46,616 - Are you still Flavour's manager? 887 00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:48,952 - Yeah. - I don't think so. 888 00:34:49,021 --> 00:34:50,620 - Look, we know you're not, and that's okay. 889 00:34:50,689 --> 00:34:52,289 We don't care. We don't care. 890 00:34:52,357 --> 00:34:54,357 - I am Flavour's manager. What are you saying? 891 00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:56,393 - We just spoke to him! 892 00:34:56,462 --> 00:34:59,429 We just videocalled with the real guy, 893 00:34:59,498 --> 00:35:01,698 not some bad, fake videochat trick. 894 00:35:01,767 --> 00:35:03,567 We talked to the real Flavour. 895 00:35:03,635 --> 00:35:06,369 - I am Flavour's manager. - Okay, okay. 896 00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:09,639 Let's just--I'm happy that your Flavour's manager. 897 00:35:09,708 --> 00:35:10,941 You're doing a great job. 898 00:35:11,009 --> 00:35:13,210 His career is going very well. 899 00:35:13,278 --> 00:35:14,277 Good job. 900 00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:16,246 - Nice. That's good. 901 00:35:16,315 --> 00:35:20,217 - Kimberly has been talking to someone. 902 00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:23,453 We know she hasn't been talking to Flavour, 903 00:35:23,522 --> 00:35:24,554 so we're just trying to figure out 904 00:35:24,623 --> 00:35:27,157 who Kimberly has been talking to. 905 00:35:28,994 --> 00:35:30,627 - Okay. 906 00:35:30,696 --> 00:35:33,663 Well, Kimberly has been speaking to me. 907 00:35:33,732 --> 00:35:35,298 I am Alexander. 908 00:35:37,903 --> 00:35:39,803 - Uh-huh, that's what we thought. 909 00:35:39,872 --> 00:35:41,438 You said your name was Alexander. 910 00:35:41,507 --> 00:35:42,639 - Yeah. 911 00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:44,474 - And you're in Nigeria, right? - Yeah. 912 00:35:44,543 --> 00:35:47,144 - So what was your intention 913 00:35:47,212 --> 00:35:49,146 all this time, speaking to Kimberly? 914 00:35:49,214 --> 00:35:51,414 - My intention was to-- 915 00:35:51,483 --> 00:35:53,183 to catfish her, 916 00:35:53,252 --> 00:35:54,918 to get money from her. 917 00:35:54,987 --> 00:35:56,887 - How old are you? - 23. 918 00:35:56,955 --> 00:35:58,421 - 23? - Yeah. 919 00:35:58,490 --> 00:36:00,257 - I have children older than you. 920 00:36:00,325 --> 00:36:01,458 - Oh. 921 00:36:01,527 --> 00:36:04,361 - How long have you been doing this kind of work? 922 00:36:04,429 --> 00:36:05,695 - A year. 923 00:36:05,764 --> 00:36:07,330 - We spoke to another woman 924 00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:09,866 who we think is another one of your victims. 925 00:36:09,935 --> 00:36:12,969 She thinks that she's Flavour's personal assistant. 926 00:36:13,038 --> 00:36:14,437 Do you know who that is? 927 00:36:17,376 --> 00:36:19,776 - Oh, that was your sister we spoke to? 928 00:36:19,845 --> 00:36:20,844 - Yes. 929 00:36:22,581 --> 00:36:23,613 - I see. 930 00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:25,215 Do you have a job? - No, I just-- 931 00:36:25,284 --> 00:36:26,650 I can play football. 932 00:36:26,718 --> 00:36:30,153 I can do comedy. I can dance. 933 00:36:30,222 --> 00:36:32,122 - Well, that's great that you have all these talents. 934 00:36:32,191 --> 00:36:33,456 So why aren't you using them? 935 00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:35,292 Why are you catfishing people 936 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,360 and trying to scam people for money? 937 00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:41,064 - Here in Nigeria, people normally get money here 938 00:36:41,133 --> 00:36:42,899 in catfishing. - Right. 939 00:36:42,968 --> 00:36:45,202 We can respect the fact that you are going 940 00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:47,170 through a struggle that we will never understand, 941 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,472 but you know that what you're doing is wrong. 942 00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:51,374 - Well, I'm a single parent, and you know that, 943 00:36:51,443 --> 00:36:53,577 so to take advantage of a single person, 944 00:36:53,645 --> 00:36:55,478 it's disrespectful to me. 945 00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:57,414 You should seek God in your prayers 946 00:36:57,482 --> 00:36:59,482 and ask Him for a better direction 947 00:36:59,551 --> 00:37:02,852 not to deceive and manipulate people's feelings. 948 00:37:06,091 --> 00:37:09,526 - I don't believe you, but God can change your heart. 949 00:37:09,595 --> 00:37:10,694 I'm not in charge. 950 00:37:10,762 --> 00:37:12,596 - Sure, sure, sure. 951 00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:15,398 Can I apologize? - Yes, you can. 952 00:37:15,467 --> 00:37:18,902 - Sorry I came to you as a catfisher. 953 00:37:18,971 --> 00:37:21,171 Please, I want you to forgive me... 954 00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:26,576 - I accept your apology, and I hope you mean it. 955 00:37:26,645 --> 00:37:29,246 And I hope you don't do it to anyone else. 956 00:37:29,314 --> 00:37:31,348 - Sure, I got you. I got you. 957 00:37:31,416 --> 00:37:33,883 - Is there anything else that you wanna say to Kimberly? 958 00:37:33,952 --> 00:37:36,920 - I still want to tell her to forgive me. 959 00:37:36,989 --> 00:37:38,722 - You're forgiven. - Okay. 960 00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:41,424 Since you forgive me... 961 00:37:43,095 --> 00:37:44,561 - No, I don't have time to waste. 962 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:46,329 - So we are not going to be talking? 963 00:37:46,398 --> 00:37:48,932 I'm not sure you forgive me. 964 00:37:49,001 --> 00:37:52,402 - I do, but you're annoying me with the foolery, 965 00:37:52,471 --> 00:37:54,738 so I'ma talk to you like I talk to my children. 966 00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:57,707 Don't play with me. Everything is over. 967 00:37:57,776 --> 00:37:59,609 You [bleep] up. 968 00:37:59,678 --> 00:38:02,912 I'm about to sweat, because I'm so mad, 969 00:38:02,981 --> 00:38:05,649 and I have to keep my composure, you know? 970 00:38:05,717 --> 00:38:08,985 My children know about this whole ordeal, 971 00:38:09,054 --> 00:38:11,254 and it's an embarrassment to me. 972 00:38:11,323 --> 00:38:14,391 You're not gonna utilize any more of my valuable time. 973 00:38:14,459 --> 00:38:16,259 - I got you. 974 00:38:16,328 --> 00:38:19,229 - Jeez. - Are you crying? 975 00:38:19,298 --> 00:38:21,464 - No, I'm sweating! - No, she's stressed out 976 00:38:21,533 --> 00:38:23,300 because this is stressful for her. 977 00:38:23,368 --> 00:38:27,137 I think it is safe to say that even though she forgives you, 978 00:38:27,205 --> 00:38:29,239 she doesn't owe you her conversation, 979 00:38:29,308 --> 00:38:31,775 or her friendship, or a relationship, or anything, 980 00:38:31,843 --> 00:38:33,176 and she doesn't want to give it to you. 981 00:38:33,245 --> 00:38:34,911 - Just leave me alone. 982 00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:37,247 - Okay, if she says so. 983 00:38:37,316 --> 00:38:38,515 - Okay. - All right, listen. 984 00:38:38,583 --> 00:38:41,751 Alexander, I appreciate you speaking to us 985 00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:43,920 and telling the truth. 986 00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:45,755 And I understand you were hoping 987 00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:48,558 that maybe some sort of relationship would continue, 988 00:38:48,627 --> 00:38:50,660 but clearly, this is the end. 989 00:38:50,729 --> 00:38:53,630 But I really want you to know that we want the best for you. 990 00:38:53,699 --> 00:38:55,665 And obviously, catfishing people 991 00:38:55,734 --> 00:38:57,934 is not gonna get you where you wanna go. 992 00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:00,270 - I got you. - All right, Alexander. 993 00:39:00,339 --> 00:39:01,638 Good luck with everything. 994 00:39:01,707 --> 00:39:03,173 - We wish you all the best. 995 00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:04,174 - Bye. 996 00:39:04,242 --> 00:39:06,109 - ♪ I was into you ♪ 997 00:39:06,178 --> 00:39:09,179 - [sighs] - High-five, Kimberly. 998 00:39:09,247 --> 00:39:10,847 - Thank you, guys. - You ate that. 999 00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:12,615 You left no crumbs. - [laughs] 1000 00:39:12,684 --> 00:39:16,820 - I did not expect him to want your forgiveness so badly. 1001 00:39:16,888 --> 00:39:18,154 - It's [bleep]! 1002 00:39:18,223 --> 00:39:21,124 He wants to be able to con her still as himself. 1003 00:39:21,193 --> 00:39:22,525 It's [bleep]. 1004 00:39:22,594 --> 00:39:24,694 - I'm glad I got to tell him how I felt. 1005 00:39:24,763 --> 00:39:27,097 And it's my fault for even falling into it, 1006 00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:30,400 but I'm relieved that we got it over with 1007 00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:31,634 and we know the truth. 1008 00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:33,370 - You are free of this. 1009 00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:36,873 - All right. Well, that's that. 1010 00:39:36,942 --> 00:39:40,076 - Thank you, guys. - Of course. 1011 00:39:40,145 --> 00:39:44,080 - ♪ A-B-C-D-E, F-U ♪ 1012 00:39:44,149 --> 00:39:45,248 [computer chimes] 1013 00:39:45,317 --> 00:39:46,883 - Hey! - Hey! All right. 1014 00:39:46,952 --> 00:39:48,918 What's up, ladies? Give us an update. 1015 00:39:48,987 --> 00:39:50,153 What's been going on with you guys? 1016 00:39:50,222 --> 00:39:51,988 - Well, we've just been working, 1017 00:39:52,057 --> 00:39:53,690 staying beautiful and wonderful, 1018 00:39:53,759 --> 00:39:56,059 like you guys are. - Aw. 1019 00:39:56,128 --> 00:39:59,229 - Kimberly, obviously, things didn't work out with Flavour, 1020 00:39:59,297 --> 00:40:01,164 but have you found a new Flavour? 1021 00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:03,666 - No, not yet. I haven't been seeking. 1022 00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:05,235 I'm scared of the fish, you know? 1023 00:40:05,303 --> 00:40:06,336 - Still got a bad taste in your mouth. 1024 00:40:06,405 --> 00:40:07,737 - Mm-hmm. 1025 00:40:07,806 --> 00:40:10,740 - You haven't talked to him since we did, have you? 1026 00:40:10,809 --> 00:40:12,509 - Well, he reached out to me 1027 00:40:12,577 --> 00:40:14,444 a couple of weeks ago on WhatsApp. 1028 00:40:14,513 --> 00:40:16,146 - Oh, my God. 1029 00:40:16,214 --> 00:40:17,580 - He just asked how I was doing, 1030 00:40:17,649 --> 00:40:20,984 and I was like, "No, I do not miss wasting time." 1031 00:40:21,052 --> 00:40:23,386 - Good. And, Diamond, I'm sure you're happy 1032 00:40:23,455 --> 00:40:26,389 that you don't have to be chasing after your mom. 1033 00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:28,591 - Yes. - You know, if there's love, 1034 00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:30,059 it'll find me sooner or later, 1035 00:40:30,128 --> 00:40:32,662 but I'm definitely not into the Internet. 1036 00:40:32,731 --> 00:40:34,230 It is what it is. 1037 00:40:34,299 --> 00:40:35,565 - Diamond, take your mom out 1038 00:40:35,634 --> 00:40:37,300 so she can meet some new flavors. 1039 00:40:37,369 --> 00:40:40,203 - All right, ladies. - Have a good one. 1040 00:40:40,272 --> 00:40:41,704 - Thanks for your help, everyone. 1041 00:40:41,773 --> 00:40:43,540 - No problem. - Our pleasure. 1042 00:40:43,608 --> 00:40:45,241 both: Bye. - Bye. 1043 00:40:45,310 --> 00:40:48,211 [uplifting music] 1044 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,481 ♪ ♪ 1045 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,820 [ on an onlinec] virtual social network. 1046 00:40:56,888 --> 00:40:58,154 - She's been showing me something 1047 00:40:58,223 --> 00:40:59,255 I've never been shown before. 1048 00:40:59,324 --> 00:41:02,158 - Except for her face on FaceTime. 1049 00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:04,227 Oh, oh, oh! - We got a hit. 1050 00:41:04,296 --> 00:41:05,829 "Why is he with you? 1051 00:41:05,897 --> 00:41:07,964 He knows the reason why I won't meet him." 1052 00:41:08,033 --> 00:41:09,466 Is there something you haven't told us? 1053 00:41:09,534 --> 00:41:11,668 - What are you hiding from us, Charles?