1 00:00:01,836 --> 00:00:03,135 - How sweet she is. 2 00:00:03,204 --> 00:00:05,237 I feel strongly towards her. 3 00:00:05,306 --> 00:00:07,506 - Just wish the best, man. I hope she's real. 4 00:00:07,575 --> 00:00:08,874 - Hello? 5 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:14,713 - That means he's also likely Megan. 6 00:00:14,782 --> 00:00:16,782 - Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. 7 00:00:16,851 --> 00:00:19,785 - There's a note. - It just says, "I'm sorry." 8 00:00:19,854 --> 00:00:21,954 - Is this just a random address? 9 00:00:22,023 --> 00:00:23,222 - Ooh! - [gasps] 10 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:27,893 - Everyone just-- just wait. 11 00:00:27,962 --> 00:00:29,294 Everyone be patient. 12 00:00:29,363 --> 00:00:31,363 I promise I will get to everyone in a minute. 13 00:00:31,432 --> 00:00:33,699 No, I totally understand. 14 00:00:33,768 --> 00:00:35,834 I promise I will get to everyone, OK? 15 00:00:35,903 --> 00:00:37,436 Thank you so much. 16 00:00:37,505 --> 00:00:40,773 - I didn't know you were doing a "Sports Illustrated" signing. 17 00:00:40,841 --> 00:00:43,342 - Oh, my God, Nev! - Sorry to interrupt. 18 00:00:43,411 --> 00:00:44,710 - Sorry, everyone. 19 00:00:44,779 --> 00:00:46,178 Yeah, no problem. - Wait. 20 00:00:46,247 --> 00:00:47,613 You're getting all the attention. 21 00:00:47,681 --> 00:00:48,847 I brought stuff too. 22 00:00:48,916 --> 00:00:49,915 - What'd you bring? 23 00:00:49,984 --> 00:00:51,950 - You can eat this. 24 00:00:52,019 --> 00:00:54,353 - How am I supposed to compete with cookies? 25 00:00:54,422 --> 00:00:55,921 Real life goodies. 26 00:00:55,990 --> 00:00:57,656 - Anyone want me to sign their cookie? 27 00:00:57,725 --> 00:00:59,124 - Thank you, Nev. 28 00:00:59,193 --> 00:01:01,527 Oh, what a sweetheart. 29 00:01:01,595 --> 00:01:03,996 - Well, congratulations. 30 00:01:04,065 --> 00:01:05,631 - We're doing [bleep] fantastic. 31 00:01:05,699 --> 00:01:07,199 - Cheers to us. 32 00:01:07,268 --> 00:01:09,501 Do you think you're ready to dive into a new episode? 33 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:11,070 Yes, I think so. 34 00:01:11,138 --> 00:01:12,438 - I can do anything. - Here we go. 35 00:01:12,506 --> 00:01:14,139 We got an email. 36 00:01:14,208 --> 00:01:16,909 Subject, "Worried Friend Seeking Help." 37 00:01:16,977 --> 00:01:18,043 - Oh, boy. 38 00:01:18,112 --> 00:01:22,214 - "Dear Nev and Kamie, my name is Ty, 39 00:01:22,283 --> 00:01:25,150 "and I live in Charlestown, West Virginia. 40 00:01:25,219 --> 00:01:27,386 "I'm reaching out to you because 41 00:01:27,455 --> 00:01:30,122 "my best friend John has been dating this girl 42 00:01:30,191 --> 00:01:33,025 "online who I am suspicious of. 43 00:01:33,094 --> 00:01:35,394 "They've been talking for a few months 44 00:01:35,463 --> 00:01:38,864 "and only live an hour apart." - What? 45 00:01:38,933 --> 00:01:40,966 - ♪ Why'd you have to lead me on? ♪ 46 00:01:41,035 --> 00:01:43,569 They've not met up yet or videochatted. 47 00:01:43,637 --> 00:01:46,004 "Something doesn't seem right. 48 00:01:46,073 --> 00:01:48,841 "John met Megan online, 49 00:01:48,909 --> 00:01:51,176 and they hit it off quickly." 50 00:01:51,245 --> 00:01:53,245 ♪ ♪ 51 00:01:53,314 --> 00:01:57,583 "John has three boys, and Megan has two," wow. 52 00:01:57,651 --> 00:02:00,352 "So that is something that they really bonded over. 53 00:02:00,421 --> 00:02:03,088 "Megan seems perfect for him. 54 00:02:03,157 --> 00:02:04,923 "They talk every single day, 55 00:02:04,992 --> 00:02:07,326 "and John always seems to be all smiles 56 00:02:07,394 --> 00:02:08,694 when he's messaging her." 57 00:02:08,762 --> 00:02:10,963 - ♪ I'll run back into your arms ♪ 58 00:02:11,031 --> 00:02:13,065 ♪ As you promise so much ♪ 59 00:02:13,134 --> 00:02:17,035 ♪ You can make me your prisoner again ♪ 60 00:02:17,104 --> 00:02:20,606 - "He thinks she could even be the one." 61 00:02:20,674 --> 00:02:22,274 - ♪ Forget all that I've learned ♪ 62 00:02:22,343 --> 00:02:25,944 ♪ You can make me your prisoner ♪ 63 00:02:26,013 --> 00:02:28,280 - "He keeps saying that they will meet soon, 64 00:02:28,349 --> 00:02:30,749 "but I'm starting to think it'll never happen. 65 00:02:30,818 --> 00:02:33,218 "Either Meghan is toying with John's emotions 66 00:02:33,287 --> 00:02:35,220 "or not who she says she is, 67 00:02:35,289 --> 00:02:38,357 "but I care about my friend, and I think 68 00:02:38,425 --> 00:02:40,592 "he deserves to know the answer. 69 00:02:40,661 --> 00:02:42,161 "He's a single dad, 70 00:02:42,229 --> 00:02:44,263 "doesn't have time to waste on a relationship 71 00:02:44,331 --> 00:02:47,232 "that will end up breaking his heart again. 72 00:02:47,301 --> 00:02:49,601 Thanks, Ty." 73 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:51,803 All right. Well, let's call Ty. 74 00:02:51,872 --> 00:02:54,540 Talk about John. 75 00:02:55,409 --> 00:02:57,142 - Hey, what's up, Ty? 76 00:02:57,211 --> 00:02:59,077 - Guess who it is? 77 00:02:59,980 --> 00:03:01,580 - Yep, it is. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. 78 00:03:01,649 --> 00:03:03,515 - Absolutely. - So listen, Ty. 79 00:03:03,584 --> 00:03:07,119 We read your email, and there is cause for concern here. 80 00:03:07,188 --> 00:03:08,187 - Mm-hmm. 81 00:03:20,568 --> 00:03:21,867 - What's up with John? 82 00:03:21,936 --> 00:03:23,569 Does he know you reached out to us? 83 00:03:24,471 --> 00:03:25,971 - All right, great. So wait. 84 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,406 So why don't we just plan on meeting you guys 85 00:03:27,474 --> 00:03:30,242 in West Virginia, and then we'll just plan on 86 00:03:30,311 --> 00:03:32,077 all getting together tomorrow? 87 00:03:34,215 --> 00:03:36,682 - Thank you, Ty. - Bye, Ty. 88 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:38,684 All right. Going to West Virginia. 89 00:03:38,752 --> 00:03:41,253 - Whoo! - Bring my magazines. 90 00:03:41,322 --> 00:03:43,822 - They should do a CGI of the plane flying 91 00:03:43,891 --> 00:03:46,925 and just, like, magazines papering the country. 92 00:03:46,994 --> 00:03:48,393 - Let's go. 93 00:03:48,462 --> 00:03:49,795 - ♪ Like my style ♪ 94 00:03:49,863 --> 00:03:51,663 ♪ Trust me boy, I know what y'all like ♪ 95 00:03:51,732 --> 00:03:55,033 - All right, West Virginia. - West Virginia. 96 00:03:55,102 --> 00:03:59,037 - Ooh, what a beautiful June day. 97 00:03:59,106 --> 00:04:00,539 - Yeah, it's really pretty. 98 00:04:00,608 --> 00:04:03,508 - Are we meeting up with Ty and Josh? 99 00:04:03,577 --> 00:04:04,576 - Ty said he was going to set it up. 100 00:04:04,645 --> 00:04:05,944 - Right. 101 00:04:06,013 --> 00:04:08,714 - So I'm assuming we're going to get both. 102 00:04:08,782 --> 00:04:10,782 - ♪ No, I'm good ♪ 103 00:04:10,851 --> 00:04:14,152 - All right, here we are. This is us. 104 00:04:14,221 --> 00:04:16,255 OK. You ready? 105 00:04:18,726 --> 00:04:20,726 [knocks] 106 00:04:22,129 --> 00:04:24,529 - Hey! Wait, John or Ty? 107 00:04:24,598 --> 00:04:27,366 - John. - John! 108 00:04:27,434 --> 00:04:28,834 - Nice to meet you. - Good to meet you. 109 00:04:28,902 --> 00:04:30,569 I'm Kamie. - Nice 110 00:04:30,638 --> 00:04:32,371 - Wow. Hey. 111 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:34,706 - Hey, what's up, guys? - You must be Ty. 112 00:04:34,775 --> 00:04:36,475 I thought, but you know. - What's up? 113 00:04:36,543 --> 00:04:38,043 - Handshake. - Let's discuss. 114 00:04:38,112 --> 00:04:40,445 - I guess we're going to play musical chairs. 115 00:04:40,514 --> 00:04:43,181 - What is that called? - There's only one chair. 116 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:45,083 Ah, oh, we got some chairs. 117 00:04:45,152 --> 00:04:48,253 - I'm not used to company. - This is your living room? 118 00:04:48,322 --> 00:04:49,921 - Yeah, but I'm never in here, man. 119 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:51,256 I'm always upstairs with kids or something. 120 00:04:51,325 --> 00:04:53,625 - Wait, so you have three kids? 121 00:04:53,694 --> 00:04:55,193 - Yeah. - Wow. 122 00:04:55,262 --> 00:04:58,230 - All same girl? - No, I have two baby moms. 123 00:04:58,299 --> 00:05:00,632 - That's a lot of kids at a young age. 124 00:05:00,701 --> 00:05:02,968 - I had my first one when I was 18, 125 00:05:03,037 --> 00:05:04,636 almost pretty much 19. 126 00:05:04,705 --> 00:05:08,040 - But you guys are both actively raising your kids? 127 00:05:08,108 --> 00:05:09,207 - Yeah. - Yeah. 128 00:05:09,276 --> 00:05:10,942 - What's the dating scene like up here? 129 00:05:11,011 --> 00:05:14,079 - Oh, terrible. - Terrible. 130 00:05:14,148 --> 00:05:16,915 Everybody around here is just crazy. 131 00:05:16,984 --> 00:05:19,251 - So how did you meet-- - Megan. 132 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,719 Through Facebook. 133 00:05:20,788 --> 00:05:22,220 Yeah, she just messaged me out of the blue one day. 134 00:05:22,289 --> 00:05:23,455 And she was like, "I like your hair." 135 00:05:23,524 --> 00:05:25,023 And I was like, "I like your face." 136 00:05:25,092 --> 00:05:28,160 And we just started talking about our days after that. 137 00:05:28,228 --> 00:05:30,195 I don't know when she added me on Facebook. 138 00:05:30,264 --> 00:05:31,496 - Oh, she had added you... - Yeah. 139 00:05:31,565 --> 00:05:33,065 - And then sent you a message, okay. 140 00:05:33,133 --> 00:05:34,800 - Did you have any mutual friends? 141 00:05:34,868 --> 00:05:37,169 - A few, but like, nobody she would actually, 142 00:05:37,237 --> 00:05:39,338 like, talk to, and nobody I talk to either, 143 00:05:39,406 --> 00:05:40,872 but, yeah, she's 27, 144 00:05:40,941 --> 00:05:43,775 and she has two kids, and she lives in D.C. 145 00:05:43,844 --> 00:05:44,910 - Does she talk about the relationship 146 00:05:44,978 --> 00:05:46,111 with their dad? 147 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:47,312 - They don't see her-- their dad, though. 148 00:05:47,381 --> 00:05:48,980 I know that. 149 00:05:49,049 --> 00:05:51,183 Apparently he was real manipulative and everything, 150 00:05:51,251 --> 00:05:54,019 and she keeps her profile away from him. 151 00:05:54,088 --> 00:05:56,855 She don't, like, post too much on Facebook. 152 00:05:56,924 --> 00:05:58,924 - Right. - Ty is not buying it. 153 00:05:58,992 --> 00:06:01,560 - Where does she work? What does she do? 154 00:06:02,229 --> 00:06:03,662 - But she also--she does, like, Twitch game. 155 00:06:03,731 --> 00:06:06,898 She gets paid through that. She makes YouTube videos. 156 00:06:06,967 --> 00:06:08,266 - She hustles. - Yeah, she's a hustler. 157 00:06:08,335 --> 00:06:09,668 - Right. 158 00:06:09,737 --> 00:06:11,803 - Ty's like, "She's a hustler all right. 159 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:13,538 She's hustling my boy." - Yeah. 160 00:06:13,607 --> 00:06:15,440 - I got a little more faith than him, but yeah. 161 00:06:15,509 --> 00:06:17,175 - So she has other social media... 162 00:06:17,244 --> 00:06:18,643 - Yeah. 163 00:06:18,712 --> 00:06:20,145 - That she told you about or that you found? 164 00:06:20,214 --> 00:06:22,180 - No, I found. 165 00:06:22,249 --> 00:06:23,915 See, on one of her Facebook photos, 166 00:06:23,984 --> 00:06:27,386 there was a ID on there, QUEENHD. 167 00:06:27,454 --> 00:06:29,287 So I looked it up on Google, 168 00:06:29,356 --> 00:06:30,922 and then I found her Instagram and Twitch 169 00:06:30,991 --> 00:06:32,357 and just, like, gamer stuff. 170 00:06:32,426 --> 00:06:35,293 - Has she talked about her Twitch streaming and her-- 171 00:06:35,362 --> 00:06:36,828 - Yeah, yeah. She game streams. 172 00:06:36,897 --> 00:06:38,797 - Okay, so that's something that she's discussed with you. 173 00:06:38,866 --> 00:06:39,898 - Yeah. 174 00:06:39,967 --> 00:06:42,000 - Was that before you found the pages? 175 00:06:42,069 --> 00:06:43,869 - No, she just said she games. 176 00:06:43,937 --> 00:06:45,504 She didn't say she, like, streamed or stuff. 177 00:06:45,572 --> 00:06:47,672 - So do you watch her on-- do you watch her streams? 178 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:50,308 - No, I'll look, and it says she was active, like, 179 00:06:50,377 --> 00:06:52,244 three hours ago, like, streaming. 180 00:06:52,312 --> 00:06:53,745 - You've never messaged her or... 181 00:06:53,814 --> 00:06:56,014 - No. - "I'm watching your stream." 182 00:06:56,083 --> 00:06:57,983 And she could be like, "Hey"-- 183 00:06:58,051 --> 00:06:59,151 - I usually catch them when they're late. 184 00:06:59,219 --> 00:07:00,352 - OK. 185 00:07:00,421 --> 00:07:02,187 - So you connect on Facebook. - Yeah. 186 00:07:02,256 --> 00:07:03,955 - Is that the only place that you guys talk, 187 00:07:04,024 --> 00:07:05,724 or do you also have each other's numbers? 188 00:07:05,793 --> 00:07:08,593 - No, she has my number. I don't have hers. 189 00:07:08,662 --> 00:07:11,730 - She never texted you? - No, she's never texted me. 190 00:07:11,799 --> 00:07:13,331 She just asked for my number 191 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,633 and just never did anything with it. 192 00:07:14,701 --> 00:07:16,301 - That's weird, right? - Yeah, it is weird. 193 00:07:16,370 --> 00:07:18,437 She definitely could have, like, FaceTimed me by now. 194 00:07:18,505 --> 00:07:20,972 - Especially over the time span y'all been talking. 195 00:07:21,041 --> 00:07:22,541 - Every time I asked her, some excuse 196 00:07:22,609 --> 00:07:23,875 or something popping up. 197 00:07:23,944 --> 00:07:25,677 She's busy with the kids, 198 00:07:25,746 --> 00:07:28,013 soccer game, work, 199 00:07:28,081 --> 00:07:30,682 just whatever excuse she can bring, I guess. 200 00:07:30,751 --> 00:07:32,751 - Which is weird with her doing, like, streaming. 201 00:07:32,820 --> 00:07:35,020 - Yeah, with her being, like, a Twitch player-- 202 00:07:35,088 --> 00:07:36,288 - With her putting herself out there-- 203 00:07:36,356 --> 00:07:38,156 putting herself out there 24/7-- 204 00:07:38,225 --> 00:07:39,724 - You think you would video me-- 205 00:07:39,793 --> 00:07:42,327 - Do you feel like the girl that's on the Twitch 206 00:07:42,396 --> 00:07:44,196 and on YouTube and on social media 207 00:07:44,264 --> 00:07:45,997 is the girl that you're talking to? 208 00:07:46,066 --> 00:07:47,032 - Kind of believe everything she says, 209 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:48,600 as dumb as that sounds. 210 00:07:48,669 --> 00:07:50,535 She seems pretty honest. 211 00:07:50,604 --> 00:07:53,805 - How serious has your conversation been 212 00:07:53,874 --> 00:07:56,007 about, like, your relationship? 213 00:07:56,076 --> 00:07:57,709 - Oh, real serious. I mean, yeah. 214 00:07:57,778 --> 00:07:59,444 I mean, I really like her. 215 00:07:59,513 --> 00:08:01,680 - What is it about her that you're so attracted to? 216 00:08:01,748 --> 00:08:03,415 - How sweet she is. 217 00:08:03,484 --> 00:08:04,850 She seems like she's always like in a good mood. 218 00:08:04,918 --> 00:08:06,485 If I'm having a bad day, she'll kind of 219 00:08:06,553 --> 00:08:07,719 try to cheer me up, 220 00:08:07,788 --> 00:08:09,120 tell me everything's going to be OK. 221 00:08:09,189 --> 00:08:10,622 She seems like she always knows what to say. 222 00:08:10,691 --> 00:08:14,593 I can tell she's a good person. I feel strongly towards her. 223 00:08:14,661 --> 00:08:17,062 - I mean, I know-- I have two kids running around. 224 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:19,264 Like, I personally know it can be stressful. 225 00:08:19,333 --> 00:08:21,500 So especially, like, give his free time 226 00:08:21,568 --> 00:08:24,936 to her says a lot. - I hope she's real. 227 00:08:25,005 --> 00:08:27,305 - How long has it been since your last long relationship? 228 00:08:27,374 --> 00:08:29,474 - Beginning of the year. - How long were you with her? 229 00:08:29,543 --> 00:08:31,776 - Six years. - Wow. OK. 230 00:08:31,845 --> 00:08:33,712 So you broke up with your girlfriend of six years, 231 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:35,080 like, the beginning of this year? 232 00:08:35,148 --> 00:08:36,515 - Yeah. 233 00:08:36,583 --> 00:08:38,817 - And that relationship ended at the end of the year, 234 00:08:38,886 --> 00:08:40,485 and you started talking to Megan, 235 00:08:40,554 --> 00:08:42,654 and she followed you. 236 00:08:42,723 --> 00:08:45,690 Is there a chance that it is your ex-girlfriend 237 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:46,825 that you're talking-- 238 00:08:46,894 --> 00:08:48,260 - She wouldn't do something that. 239 00:08:48,328 --> 00:08:50,328 She don't have time for that. - That's too diabolical. 240 00:08:50,397 --> 00:08:52,330 - That would--oh, that would be evil, wouldn't it? 241 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:54,132 - You haven't talked to her on the phone. 242 00:08:54,201 --> 00:08:55,300 Why wouldn't you have talked to her on the phone? 243 00:08:55,369 --> 00:08:56,801 Because you know her voice because you 244 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:58,570 lived with her for six years. 245 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:01,072 - Yeah, we certainly can't rule that possibility out. 246 00:09:01,141 --> 00:09:04,676 - She sent you pictures? - Yeah, like selfies. 247 00:09:04,745 --> 00:09:06,645 - And you've sent her pictures of yourself. 248 00:09:06,713 --> 00:09:08,380 - Of myself? Yeah. 249 00:09:08,448 --> 00:09:10,815 And my kids, like, them playing and stuff. 250 00:09:10,884 --> 00:09:12,717 - But has she sent pictures of her and her kids? 251 00:09:12,786 --> 00:09:14,352 - No, I haven't seen her kids. 252 00:09:14,421 --> 00:09:16,154 - At all? - No. 253 00:09:16,223 --> 00:09:18,156 - Have you guys made plans to meet up? 254 00:09:18,225 --> 00:09:20,859 - We've made plans to meet up soon and just haven't. 255 00:09:20,928 --> 00:09:22,794 - Like, an hour away is not far. 256 00:09:22,863 --> 00:09:23,995 - Right. 257 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:26,298 - My son broke one of my TVs, 258 00:09:26,366 --> 00:09:27,799 and she was going to give me a TV. 259 00:09:27,868 --> 00:09:29,167 She actually went and bought it, 260 00:09:29,236 --> 00:09:31,636 and then, like, she was going to come bring me the TV, 261 00:09:31,705 --> 00:09:35,440 And her car broke down, apparently. 262 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:37,809 I've seen the person post on her Facebook wall 263 00:09:37,878 --> 00:09:39,578 asking about the TV they sold her, 264 00:09:39,646 --> 00:09:41,346 so she really did get this TV. 265 00:09:41,415 --> 00:09:43,515 - So all your conversations with her 266 00:09:43,584 --> 00:09:45,317 are through Messenger? - Yeah. 267 00:09:45,385 --> 00:09:47,752 - Can I-- do you mind if we scroll through a little bit? 268 00:09:47,821 --> 00:09:50,622 OK. Meghan Malensky. 269 00:09:50,691 --> 00:09:52,924 Okay, so that sounds like a pretty regular name. 270 00:09:52,993 --> 00:09:54,659 Oh, man. It's a lot. 271 00:09:54,728 --> 00:09:56,728 I don't think I have time to scroll. 272 00:09:56,797 --> 00:10:00,632 Jeez, this is all just in the last 24 hours. 273 00:10:00,701 --> 00:10:03,868 I mean, this is pretty wholesome, sweet conversation. 274 00:10:03,937 --> 00:10:06,338 - Thank you. - You call her baby. 275 00:10:06,406 --> 00:10:09,374 - "OK, baby. Sweet dreams." 276 00:10:09,443 --> 00:10:11,242 ♪ ♪ 277 00:10:11,311 --> 00:10:13,278 - Here's her profile. 278 00:10:13,347 --> 00:10:16,014 143 friends, 10 mutuals. 279 00:10:16,083 --> 00:10:20,051 - She's cute. - Very cute. 280 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,721 OK, so there's not a lot on her Facebook page. 281 00:10:22,789 --> 00:10:25,290 - Facebook's pretty blank. - All right. 282 00:10:25,359 --> 00:10:26,558 Well, look. 283 00:10:26,627 --> 00:10:28,460 There are things about Megan and the story 284 00:10:28,528 --> 00:10:30,729 that seem a little off. - Yeah. 285 00:10:30,797 --> 00:10:31,896 Real off, yeah. 286 00:10:31,965 --> 00:10:33,365 - But it doesn't change the fact 287 00:10:33,433 --> 00:10:36,401 that the person you're talking to seems to be a genuine-- 288 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:37,769 - Yeah, like she seems like a really nice person. 289 00:10:37,838 --> 00:10:38,870 - Yeah. 290 00:10:38,939 --> 00:10:40,438 - Whoever it is. - Right. 291 00:10:40,507 --> 00:10:42,507 So we can definitely do a little bit more research. 292 00:10:42,576 --> 00:10:44,142 - Sounds good to me. 293 00:10:44,211 --> 00:10:47,012 - Any parting words for your friend here, Ty? 294 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,615 - Just wish the best, man. I hope she's real. 295 00:10:50,684 --> 00:10:53,084 - My boy right here. I'll escort you out. 296 00:10:53,153 --> 00:10:55,920 - Nice meeting you. 297 00:10:55,989 --> 00:10:57,889 - We'll see you guys soon. 298 00:10:57,958 --> 00:11:00,158 ♪ ♪ 299 00:11:00,227 --> 00:11:03,328 You want to say it, or do you want me to say it? 300 00:11:03,397 --> 00:11:05,230 It's the baby mother! 301 00:11:05,298 --> 00:11:06,498 He doesn't have her phone number, 302 00:11:06,566 --> 00:11:07,565 but she has his. 303 00:11:07,634 --> 00:11:08,933 Yeah, because she already had his, 304 00:11:09,002 --> 00:11:11,069 but she can't give him hers because it's her number. 305 00:11:11,138 --> 00:11:12,604 She can't talk to him on the phone 306 00:11:12,673 --> 00:11:14,572 because he would know her voice. 307 00:11:14,641 --> 00:11:16,107 - Yes. I see that. 308 00:11:16,176 --> 00:11:17,509 Could very well be his ex. 309 00:11:17,577 --> 00:11:19,411 - Well, if it is, maybe it could 310 00:11:19,479 --> 00:11:20,845 bring them closer together. 311 00:11:20,914 --> 00:11:24,049 Or maybe it could end up in a huge disaster. 312 00:11:26,753 --> 00:11:28,887 - You know what? I have something for you. 313 00:11:28,955 --> 00:11:30,655 - No, I don't want it. - Oh, you don't? 314 00:11:30,724 --> 00:11:32,757 - What is it? [laughs] 315 00:11:32,826 --> 00:11:34,325 What is it? 316 00:11:34,394 --> 00:11:36,494 - Oh. Wait. 317 00:11:36,563 --> 00:11:38,697 Why are you on it? 318 00:11:38,765 --> 00:11:40,765 It should be a sign. - I know. 319 00:11:40,834 --> 00:11:42,200 Well, he wasn't around. Here. 320 00:11:42,269 --> 00:11:44,302 And I also got here these. - Oh. 321 00:11:44,371 --> 00:11:45,603 Great. 322 00:11:45,672 --> 00:11:47,605 - So you could step on me all day long. 323 00:11:47,674 --> 00:11:49,974 - Yeah, I would love to. - [laughs] 324 00:11:50,043 --> 00:11:51,876 - Oh, thank you. 325 00:11:51,945 --> 00:11:54,579 I would hug you, but, feels-- - Yeah, too much. 326 00:11:54,648 --> 00:11:57,382 - Yeah. [laughs] 327 00:11:57,451 --> 00:11:59,017 - All right. What do we got? 328 00:11:59,086 --> 00:12:02,554 John, 27, got three kids, 329 00:12:02,622 --> 00:12:06,324 recently separated from a long term girlfriend. 330 00:12:06,393 --> 00:12:09,360 Six months later-ish, random message 331 00:12:09,429 --> 00:12:13,998 from Meghan who lives in DC, and they hit it off. 332 00:12:14,067 --> 00:12:17,001 They talk about meeting up. Something always comes up. 333 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:18,236 He then mentions that his television 334 00:12:18,305 --> 00:12:20,004 gets broken by one of his kids. 335 00:12:20,073 --> 00:12:22,874 She said, "Hh, you know what, I'm going to get you a new TV 336 00:12:22,943 --> 00:12:24,843 and I'm going to bring it to you." 337 00:12:24,911 --> 00:12:26,478 No TV. 338 00:12:26,546 --> 00:12:27,946 He's really into her, 339 00:12:28,014 --> 00:12:29,380 but they only communicate 340 00:12:29,449 --> 00:12:31,883 through her weird Facebook page, 341 00:12:31,952 --> 00:12:35,820 and he found a bunch of social media for her 342 00:12:35,889 --> 00:12:38,823 and that person, which may or may not be her, 343 00:12:38,892 --> 00:12:41,593 is, like, a very active streamer and gamer. 344 00:12:41,661 --> 00:12:42,927 - Sounds like a bunch of [bleep] speak. 345 00:12:42,996 --> 00:12:45,730 - Well, you think it's the ex. - It's the ex. 346 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:47,198 - I mean, the ex is a strong theory. 347 00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:50,835 All right, well, let's see what we find. 348 00:12:50,904 --> 00:12:53,438 Hey guys, so here's what I have for Meghan. 349 00:12:53,507 --> 00:12:56,407 The link to her Facebook page, photos attached. 350 00:12:56,476 --> 00:13:00,245 I mean, these photos, she's clearly a game streamer. 351 00:13:00,313 --> 00:13:02,413 I mean, this girl is definitely like a streamer, 352 00:13:02,482 --> 00:13:04,783 influencer type. And here's the screen-grab. 353 00:13:04,851 --> 00:13:06,284 See up here. 354 00:13:06,353 --> 00:13:08,186 That's how they found her screen name. 355 00:13:08,255 --> 00:13:09,888 [bleep] Queen. 356 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:11,222 So OK. 357 00:13:11,291 --> 00:13:13,057 Let's go check out this girl's Instagram. 358 00:13:13,126 --> 00:13:15,393 So she's got 8400 followers. 359 00:13:15,462 --> 00:13:16,828 She's a gamer. 360 00:13:16,897 --> 00:13:19,697 - She has multiple photos sitting in the same exact spot. 361 00:13:19,766 --> 00:13:21,299 - She's got a Linktree. 362 00:13:21,368 --> 00:13:22,834 Let's see what's on here. 363 00:13:22,903 --> 00:13:25,537 So she's got Twitter, Instagram, YouTube. 364 00:13:25,605 --> 00:13:29,107 Here's her gaming profile. [bleep] Queen. 365 00:13:29,176 --> 00:13:31,342 Maybe her real name is on here somewhere. 366 00:13:31,411 --> 00:13:32,377 I don't know what this looks like. 367 00:13:32,445 --> 00:13:33,645 Here, About. 368 00:13:33,713 --> 00:13:36,614 Let's see if she has a profile here. 369 00:13:36,683 --> 00:13:39,984 "Welcome to my channel." - "I'm Miranda." 370 00:13:40,053 --> 00:13:42,720 - Oh, my God. - Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. 371 00:13:42,789 --> 00:13:44,823 - "Hi, everyone. I'm Miranda." 372 00:13:44,891 --> 00:13:46,825 - John is not talking to this girl. 373 00:13:46,893 --> 00:13:48,459 It's not her. - It's not. 374 00:13:48,528 --> 00:13:49,727 - Who is it? 375 00:13:49,796 --> 00:13:51,329 Let's go to the Meghan page that John has. 376 00:13:51,398 --> 00:13:53,731 Oh, wait. Check this out. 377 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,466 Melissa Smith. 378 00:13:55,535 --> 00:13:56,935 "It was so nice to meet you. 379 00:13:57,003 --> 00:13:58,636 "Hope you're enjoying the TV. 380 00:13:58,705 --> 00:13:59,904 let me know if you have any issues with it." 381 00:13:59,973 --> 00:14:01,639 All right, let's look at Melissa Smith. 382 00:14:01,708 --> 00:14:04,142 - Also in Washington, DC. - Well, that makes sense. 383 00:14:04,211 --> 00:14:06,077 It seems like she's buttoned up and private. 384 00:14:06,146 --> 00:14:07,579 We can't see her. 385 00:14:07,647 --> 00:14:09,547 - Do you think this one is a fake account too? 386 00:14:09,616 --> 00:14:11,416 - To validate the Meghan account? 387 00:14:11,484 --> 00:14:12,917 Maybe. 388 00:14:12,986 --> 00:14:15,987 I think we just gotta message her, right? 389 00:14:16,056 --> 00:14:17,222 - It could be Meghan. 390 00:14:17,290 --> 00:14:20,425 - Well, then we'll deal with it. 391 00:14:20,493 --> 00:14:25,663 Hey, Melissa I'd love to chat with you. 392 00:14:25,732 --> 00:14:26,965 Thanks. 393 00:14:27,033 --> 00:14:29,334 You want to make waves? - No. 394 00:14:29,402 --> 00:14:31,002 - Got to make a splash. 395 00:14:32,372 --> 00:14:34,005 - [bleep] [phone chimes] 396 00:14:34,074 --> 00:14:35,773 Oh. - We got a response. 397 00:14:35,842 --> 00:14:37,375 - Yes. - "Hi, Nev. 398 00:14:37,444 --> 00:14:39,244 How can I help you?" 399 00:14:39,312 --> 00:14:43,681 Is there any chance you can jump on a quick FaceTime? 400 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:45,183 - FaceTime? 401 00:14:45,252 --> 00:14:48,353 - Well, this is some friendly lady 402 00:14:48,421 --> 00:14:50,822 who helped her find a new television. 403 00:14:50,891 --> 00:14:53,992 - I can't FaceTime, but I could give you a call. 404 00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:55,360 Fine. 405 00:14:55,428 --> 00:14:58,796 OK, that works. - It's probably the ex. 406 00:14:58,865 --> 00:15:00,632 She's probably trying to get somebody to get on the phone 407 00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:03,735 and act as her. She knows. 408 00:15:03,803 --> 00:15:05,837 [phone ringing] - Oh, New York. 409 00:15:05,906 --> 00:15:07,705 Hello? 410 00:15:12,779 --> 00:15:14,078 - OK. 411 00:15:14,147 --> 00:15:16,047 Well, is she there? 412 00:15:19,819 --> 00:15:23,054 - Right, why couldn't she call me? 413 00:15:24,958 --> 00:15:26,991 - I mean, look, whatever. 414 00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:31,362 Mainly what I was calling about was your wife, 415 00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:33,031 although it could have been you, 416 00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:36,334 recently either sold or gave a television 417 00:15:36,403 --> 00:15:40,405 to a young lady, I think, named Meghan? 418 00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:50,515 - She looked like her picture? 419 00:15:50,583 --> 00:15:52,250 No, she [bleep] didn't. 420 00:15:52,319 --> 00:15:54,953 - So just bear with me for a second 421 00:15:55,021 --> 00:15:56,988 because the weird thing for us 422 00:15:57,057 --> 00:16:00,892 is that we found the girl in the pictures, 423 00:16:00,961 --> 00:16:03,461 and her name is Miranda. 424 00:16:10,036 --> 00:16:12,403 - What was your name? I'm sorry, I forgot to ask you. 425 00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:17,642 - Got it. All right, thanks Phil. 426 00:16:18,611 --> 00:16:19,744 - Bye. - Phil? 427 00:16:19,813 --> 00:16:21,479 Short for Phil of [bleep]. 428 00:16:21,548 --> 00:16:23,281 - Is that Meghan? 429 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:25,783 If Phil made this account 430 00:16:25,852 --> 00:16:29,954 just to post on her page 431 00:16:30,023 --> 00:16:32,623 and make it seem like she really actually got the TV, 432 00:16:32,692 --> 00:16:36,794 that means he's Melissa, and he's also likely Meghan. 433 00:16:36,863 --> 00:16:38,429 - I don't think he is. 434 00:16:38,498 --> 00:16:41,766 Somebody, the ex in my opinion, 435 00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:43,468 got somebody to answer the phone-- 436 00:16:43,536 --> 00:16:47,305 - Oh, so you think Melissa is run by the ex? 437 00:16:47,374 --> 00:16:49,974 And that she was like "Oh, [bleep]. 438 00:16:50,043 --> 00:16:51,142 I need someone to call." 439 00:16:51,211 --> 00:16:52,977 And somehow, came up with the idea 440 00:16:53,046 --> 00:16:55,480 of, like, only person I can get to help me right now is a guy. 441 00:16:55,548 --> 00:16:57,115 - Yeah, because she might have known 442 00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:58,816 that we were going to record the voice. 443 00:16:58,885 --> 00:17:01,019 - Whether or not the ex is involved, 444 00:17:01,087 --> 00:17:03,354 both these profiles are probably the same. 445 00:17:03,423 --> 00:17:05,523 Run by the same fake person, and either whoever 446 00:17:05,592 --> 00:17:06,858 that guy is that we just spoke to 447 00:17:06,926 --> 00:17:08,359 who didn't want to tell us his name, 448 00:17:08,428 --> 00:17:11,763 or he's trying to cover for whoever John is talking to. 449 00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:14,532 We already know Meghan's lying. 450 00:17:14,601 --> 00:17:17,802 How big is the lie? 451 00:17:21,241 --> 00:17:24,409 - So this morning, I'm leaning to it being Phil. 452 00:17:24,477 --> 00:17:26,277 Because why wouldn't Meghan get on the phone with him, 453 00:17:26,346 --> 00:17:27,912 unless Meghan is the ex. 454 00:17:27,981 --> 00:17:30,114 - But if it's the ex, you know what I'm going to say. 455 00:17:30,183 --> 00:17:33,518 I told you so. - All right. 456 00:17:33,586 --> 00:17:36,487 Here it is. 457 00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:37,989 [soft dramatic music] 458 00:17:38,058 --> 00:17:39,624 - Why would you put me in the bush? 459 00:17:39,692 --> 00:17:42,293 ♪ ♪ 460 00:17:42,362 --> 00:17:45,463 [knocks] 461 00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:48,032 - Hey, guys. - Hey. 462 00:17:48,101 --> 00:17:49,634 - What's going on? - Curls popping today, wow. 463 00:17:49,702 --> 00:17:51,936 Looking good. - Thank you. 464 00:17:52,005 --> 00:17:53,471 What's up? 465 00:17:53,540 --> 00:17:55,039 ♪ ♪ 466 00:17:55,108 --> 00:17:56,707 Waiting to see what y'all got for me, I guess. 467 00:17:56,776 --> 00:17:58,342 - Have you talked to her at all-- 468 00:17:58,411 --> 00:18:00,178 - Yeah, yeah, I talked to her today. 469 00:18:00,246 --> 00:18:03,014 - Well, look. We did find some stuff. 470 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:04,482 We spoke to some people. 471 00:18:04,551 --> 00:18:06,984 We've got some thoughts and ideas. 472 00:18:07,053 --> 00:18:08,686 If you want to try and swing over a little bit? 473 00:18:08,755 --> 00:18:12,523 All right, so because you had a photo 474 00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:16,160 that she had posted with the Instagram account, 475 00:18:16,229 --> 00:18:18,329 we went there just to check it out. 476 00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:19,797 It doesn't have her name on here. 477 00:18:19,866 --> 00:18:22,900 We went to her Linktree and we found a bunch of stuff, 478 00:18:22,969 --> 00:18:25,369 including this game streaming site. 479 00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:29,373 My first feeling was she's presenting herself every day. 480 00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:31,809 - Every day, yeah. - Live. 481 00:18:31,878 --> 00:18:33,511 Where are her kids? 482 00:18:33,580 --> 00:18:35,513 If she had kids, they'd be on her page. 483 00:18:35,582 --> 00:18:36,747 - Yeah. 484 00:18:36,816 --> 00:18:38,850 - I mean, maybe not her streaming page, 485 00:18:38,918 --> 00:18:41,152 but somewhere on her social media, right? 486 00:18:41,221 --> 00:18:42,687 - Yeah, I don't know. 487 00:18:42,755 --> 00:18:45,022 Part of me still wants it to be her, so... 488 00:18:45,091 --> 00:18:46,557 - Of course. - Yeah. 489 00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:48,192 - And look, there's actually if you scroll down, 490 00:18:48,261 --> 00:18:49,727 like an about me. 491 00:18:49,796 --> 00:18:51,562 And it says "Welcome to my channel. 492 00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:54,532 I'm Miranda." - Who the [bleep] is Miranda? 493 00:18:54,601 --> 00:18:56,400 - This is a girl named Miranda. 494 00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:58,936 Doesn't have kids and might not be 27, 495 00:18:59,005 --> 00:19:00,738 might be a little younger. 496 00:19:00,807 --> 00:19:02,206 - That's pretty big. 497 00:19:02,275 --> 00:19:04,709 I don't know. 498 00:19:04,777 --> 00:19:06,711 If that's not really her, man, I don't-- 499 00:19:06,779 --> 00:19:09,247 ♪ ♪ 500 00:19:09,315 --> 00:19:11,983 That's crazy. 501 00:19:12,051 --> 00:19:13,885 - If it's not her and she's lying about that, 502 00:19:13,953 --> 00:19:15,620 what else is she lying about? 503 00:19:15,688 --> 00:19:20,124 - So with this in mind, we went to her Facebook page. 504 00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:23,227 We went back to the Facebook page she gave you. 505 00:19:23,296 --> 00:19:26,597 We scrolled down the page, and we found the TV post 506 00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:28,232 that you mentioned seeing on her wall. 507 00:19:28,301 --> 00:19:30,201 So we went to the page for the girl 508 00:19:30,270 --> 00:19:31,636 she bought it from, Melissa. 509 00:19:31,704 --> 00:19:33,371 Messaged her. 510 00:19:33,439 --> 00:19:35,273 "Hey, is there any chance you can jump on a FaceTime?" 511 00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:38,242 "I can't FaceTime, but I can give you a call." 512 00:19:38,311 --> 00:19:39,544 Phone rings. 513 00:19:39,612 --> 00:19:41,913 It's a guy. 514 00:19:41,981 --> 00:19:43,581 He's like, "Oh, yeah, I'm Melissa's husband." 515 00:19:43,650 --> 00:19:46,984 And he's like "Well, Melissa and I share a Facebook page. 516 00:19:47,053 --> 00:19:48,753 "She's at work right now, 517 00:19:48,821 --> 00:19:49,921 so I just thought I'd give you a call." 518 00:19:49,989 --> 00:19:52,823 I was like "OK, weird," right? - Yeah. 519 00:19:52,892 --> 00:19:55,326 - But OK, sure. 520 00:19:55,395 --> 00:19:57,728 So I said, "OK, well, look, we're calling about this TV 521 00:19:57,797 --> 00:19:59,830 that you guys sold to this girl, Meghan." 522 00:19:59,899 --> 00:20:02,767 Anyway, we recorded the call so we could play his voice 523 00:20:02,835 --> 00:20:04,835 for you just on the off chance that you 524 00:20:04,904 --> 00:20:07,338 recognize this guy's voice. - That's smart. 525 00:20:07,407 --> 00:20:09,173 ♪ ♪ 526 00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:11,609 - She was super sweet. 527 00:20:11,678 --> 00:20:14,345 She came, looked just like her Facebook picture, 528 00:20:14,414 --> 00:20:15,680 and left. 529 00:20:15,748 --> 00:20:18,482 - Looked just like her Facebook picture and left. 530 00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:20,484 You know, like, weird that he would add that in. 531 00:20:20,553 --> 00:20:22,119 - Yeah, you didn't ask that at all. 532 00:20:22,188 --> 00:20:23,955 He just threw it out there. - Right. 533 00:20:24,023 --> 00:20:26,157 - It's weird. - Yeah, it is weird. 534 00:20:26,226 --> 00:20:29,527 - Anyway, so that raises a lot of red flags and suspicion 535 00:20:29,596 --> 00:20:31,462 around the Melissa page. 536 00:20:31,531 --> 00:20:33,764 And is it Phil, the guy that we talked to, 537 00:20:33,833 --> 00:20:35,933 or whoever it is that's running the Melissa page-- 538 00:20:36,002 --> 00:20:37,768 who may also be the same person 539 00:20:37,837 --> 00:20:38,970 who's running the Meghan page-- 540 00:20:39,038 --> 00:20:41,138 thought, "Oh, [bleep]. 541 00:20:41,207 --> 00:20:43,541 "I can't call them right now because my voice 542 00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:44,875 is recognizable." 543 00:20:44,944 --> 00:20:48,012 So it kind of brings us back to Kamie's 544 00:20:48,081 --> 00:20:51,849 initial suspicion, which is that maybe it's 545 00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:54,285 your recent ex-girlfriend. 546 00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:55,653 And knew that if she got on the phone 547 00:20:55,722 --> 00:20:58,389 with us, that we might then play her voice for you, 548 00:20:58,458 --> 00:20:59,890 in which case, you'd say, "Oh, my God, 549 00:20:59,959 --> 00:21:02,193 that's my ex-girlfriend." - Yeah. 550 00:21:02,262 --> 00:21:05,196 That'd be a big jump, but then maybe. 551 00:21:05,265 --> 00:21:06,998 - Are you still friends with her on your Facebook? 552 00:21:07,066 --> 00:21:08,532 - My ex? - Yeah. 553 00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:10,501 - No, no she's not on Facebook. 554 00:21:10,570 --> 00:21:12,570 - Now I'm not so sure that it's your ex, 555 00:21:12,639 --> 00:21:14,171 but it's a possibility. 556 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,240 It could also be a guy, 557 00:21:16,309 --> 00:21:18,309 which is why he hasn't talked to you on the phone. 558 00:21:18,378 --> 00:21:20,144 Question is, what do we do now? 559 00:21:20,213 --> 00:21:23,514 Should we message her now on your behalf? 560 00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:26,050 - Yeah. - So here she is. 561 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,885 Let's send her a message. 562 00:21:27,954 --> 00:21:29,287 Hey, Meghan. 563 00:21:29,355 --> 00:21:35,359 This is Nev from the show "Catfish." 564 00:21:35,428 --> 00:21:39,363 We are in West Virginia with John. 565 00:21:39,432 --> 00:21:40,831 As you know, 566 00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:44,669 he has strong feelings for you. 567 00:21:44,737 --> 00:21:47,838 - Right on. Whatever gets her out there. 568 00:21:47,907 --> 00:21:49,940 - So I think Meghan's got everything she needs 569 00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:51,676 to understand that we're not messing around. 570 00:21:51,744 --> 00:21:54,178 This is her best and last chance. 571 00:21:54,247 --> 00:21:56,080 You let us know if you hear anything. 572 00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:57,882 We'll let you know if we hear anything. 573 00:21:57,950 --> 00:22:02,586 Fingers crossed she responds and agrees to meet us. 574 00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:04,588 - All right. 575 00:22:06,926 --> 00:22:08,826 [phone ringing] Oh, John's calling me. 576 00:22:10,997 --> 00:22:12,029 John. 577 00:22:13,733 --> 00:22:15,032 - What's up, buddy? 578 00:22:19,639 --> 00:22:20,938 - What do they say? 579 00:22:46,366 --> 00:22:47,898 - That's crazy. 580 00:22:47,967 --> 00:22:50,000 I mean, let's all regroup in the morning. 581 00:22:50,069 --> 00:22:52,303 Then we'll figure it out. 582 00:22:54,841 --> 00:22:56,941 - All right, John. Goodnight, man. 583 00:22:58,544 --> 00:23:00,111 - Bye. 584 00:23:02,749 --> 00:23:05,783 - Good morning. - How you doing, Kamie? 585 00:23:05,852 --> 00:23:08,786 Breakfast Club. - Wow, what a spread. 586 00:23:08,855 --> 00:23:12,289 [laughs] - All right. 587 00:23:12,358 --> 00:23:14,825 Give us the details of what happened last night. 588 00:23:14,894 --> 00:23:16,994 - So I get these random text messages 589 00:23:17,063 --> 00:23:18,596 from two different numbers. 590 00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:20,564 One was a person named Christine. 591 00:23:20,633 --> 00:23:22,800 - "Hey John, my name is Christine. 592 00:23:22,869 --> 00:23:24,568 "I'm a friend of Meghan's. 593 00:23:24,637 --> 00:23:27,738 "I think you guys have an undeniable connection, 594 00:23:27,807 --> 00:23:30,107 "and I'm sure that if you call off 595 00:23:30,176 --> 00:23:33,611 "'Catfish' and give her more time, 596 00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:35,646 she will meet you on her own." 597 00:23:35,715 --> 00:23:38,182 And then another one from a 571 number. 598 00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:39,784 "Hi John, my name is Doris. 599 00:23:39,852 --> 00:23:41,585 I'm a friend--" this is the exact same message. 600 00:23:41,654 --> 00:23:42,787 - Doris. - "I'm a friend of Meghan's." 601 00:23:42,855 --> 00:23:44,522 Like, it starts the exact same way. 602 00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:46,257 "She told me about 'Catfish' reaching out 603 00:23:46,325 --> 00:23:48,325 and she's a little freaked out." 604 00:23:48,394 --> 00:23:50,461 - It's Meghan. - Well, right. 605 00:23:50,530 --> 00:23:51,695 - Yeah, it's her. 606 00:23:51,764 --> 00:23:55,966 - So should we look up those numbers, 607 00:23:56,035 --> 00:23:57,902 just on the off chance that one of them 608 00:23:57,970 --> 00:24:00,037 might actually be hers? - Sure. 609 00:24:00,106 --> 00:24:02,373 Let's just see. All right, Doris number first. 610 00:24:02,442 --> 00:24:05,509 - OK it's 571-- 611 00:24:05,578 --> 00:24:09,847 - 571 [bleep]. Nothing. 612 00:24:09,916 --> 00:24:11,215 What was the other number? 613 00:24:11,284 --> 00:24:13,050 - Christine. - All right. 614 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,352 - 815 [bleep]. 615 00:24:15,421 --> 00:24:19,523 - Ooh, Melissa. What if it is Melissa? 616 00:24:19,592 --> 00:24:22,126 - Melissa Smith? - Smith, yeah. 617 00:24:22,195 --> 00:24:24,328 Maybe her real name is Melissa [bleep]. 618 00:24:24,397 --> 00:24:26,530 - So it's just Melissa this whole time? 619 00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:28,499 - Should we call Christine since it looks like 620 00:24:28,568 --> 00:24:31,869 it's actually a number and-- - Might as well. 621 00:24:31,938 --> 00:24:35,206 [line trilling] 622 00:24:35,274 --> 00:24:36,841 What's the tea, Christine? 623 00:24:36,909 --> 00:24:39,143 That's what you have to say. 624 00:24:42,415 --> 00:24:44,548 - Oh. - Hang up. 625 00:24:44,617 --> 00:24:46,917 - Wait, Melissa? - Yes. 626 00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:50,855 - They said Melissa [bleep]. - Same last name, the audacity. 627 00:24:50,923 --> 00:24:52,857 The gall. - I was right. 628 00:24:52,925 --> 00:24:54,925 - The gall. - I was right. 629 00:24:54,994 --> 00:24:56,393 - Who is Melissa? 630 00:24:56,462 --> 00:24:58,562 - I don't know Melissa, that's the thing. 631 00:24:58,631 --> 00:25:01,165 - Well, you don't know Melissa, but she goes by Meghan. 632 00:25:01,234 --> 00:25:03,033 And that-- whoever we talked to-- 633 00:25:03,102 --> 00:25:04,568 Phil guy was probably some friend 634 00:25:04,637 --> 00:25:05,769 who was trying to cover for her. 635 00:25:05,838 --> 00:25:07,338 [soft dramatic music] 636 00:25:07,406 --> 00:25:10,207 - What do we do? - Text Melissa. 637 00:25:10,276 --> 00:25:12,443 - Christine. - Right. 638 00:25:12,512 --> 00:25:15,279 Hey, Melissa, 639 00:25:15,348 --> 00:25:19,083 I got your number from John 640 00:25:19,151 --> 00:25:22,453 regarding your "friend." 641 00:25:22,522 --> 00:25:24,755 I'm going to put it in quotes-- "Meghan". 642 00:25:24,824 --> 00:25:28,759 - Spicy. - Would love to chat. 643 00:25:28,828 --> 00:25:30,461 ♪ ♪ 644 00:25:30,530 --> 00:25:33,464 - How are you feeling, John? What are you thinking? 645 00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:36,267 - Lost, confused, used. 646 00:25:36,335 --> 00:25:38,235 Like this person just took advantage of me 647 00:25:38,304 --> 00:25:40,304 and just talked to me for months for what reason, 648 00:25:40,373 --> 00:25:45,142 I have no idea. - Oh, response from Melissa. 649 00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:48,212 - OK, I'll try to talk to Meghan 650 00:25:48,281 --> 00:25:49,947 and convince her to meet. 651 00:25:50,016 --> 00:25:52,249 Come to D.C., and I'll send you 652 00:25:52,318 --> 00:25:54,184 an address as soon as-- it's her. 653 00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:56,954 - Yeah, that's her. - It's her. 654 00:25:57,023 --> 00:26:00,558 - No--didn't even blink an eye at me calling her Melissa. 655 00:26:00,626 --> 00:26:02,793 Right. OK. 656 00:26:02,862 --> 00:26:03,894 Great. 657 00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:07,631 We should be in D.C. area 658 00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:09,533 around noon. 659 00:26:11,304 --> 00:26:13,470 - So does this mean I have to throw my baby mama theory out? 660 00:26:13,539 --> 00:26:17,808 - Unless she's sending us to D.C. to get stood up. 661 00:26:17,877 --> 00:26:19,743 - Could be. 662 00:26:19,812 --> 00:26:22,346 - All right, so let's pack up and go. 663 00:26:22,415 --> 00:26:24,582 [upbeat music] 664 00:26:24,650 --> 00:26:25,683 - Thank you. 665 00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:28,319 ♪ ♪ 666 00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:30,421 - All right. Everyone ready? 667 00:26:30,489 --> 00:26:31,855 Strapped in? 668 00:26:31,924 --> 00:26:33,557 - We are now entering our initial descent 669 00:26:33,626 --> 00:26:36,126 into Washington, DC. 670 00:26:36,195 --> 00:26:38,162 - ♪ She's a fine little lover ♪ 671 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:40,431 - All right, let's head East. - This is crazy. 672 00:26:40,499 --> 00:26:43,801 - ♪ Somebody tell me what I'm missing ♪ 673 00:26:43,869 --> 00:26:44,835 ♪ She sees the ♪ 674 00:26:44,904 --> 00:26:47,371 [phone chimes] - An address. 675 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,707 - OK. - Arlington. 676 00:26:49,775 --> 00:26:51,208 - That's right outside D.C. - Yeah, just outside. 677 00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:52,676 All right. 678 00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,044 You don't know anyone that lives in Arlington, do you? 679 00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:55,179 - No, no I don't. 680 00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:57,715 - ♪ Love me like James Bond ♪ 681 00:26:57,783 --> 00:26:59,984 ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪ 682 00:27:00,052 --> 00:27:01,485 ♪ Ooh ♪ 683 00:27:01,554 --> 00:27:03,153 [soft dramatic music] 684 00:27:03,222 --> 00:27:06,957 - Well, this is the street, I think. 685 00:27:07,026 --> 00:27:09,526 Yeah, that's it right there. 686 00:27:09,595 --> 00:27:12,062 - All the windows open, waiting for you to peek inside. 687 00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:13,998 - Oh, a TV. - What? 688 00:27:14,066 --> 00:27:15,966 - The TV. - Where? 689 00:27:16,035 --> 00:27:18,636 - She left it in front. - No. 690 00:27:18,704 --> 00:27:21,038 There's a note on the TV. - Get the [bleep] out. 691 00:27:21,107 --> 00:27:23,140 I got to see this note. - Let's park. 692 00:27:24,276 --> 00:27:26,176 [seatbelt clicks] 693 00:27:26,245 --> 00:27:33,250 ♪ ♪ 694 00:27:34,687 --> 00:27:35,919 - Does it say anything inside? 695 00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:39,356 - No, it just says, "I'm sorry. Don't hate me." 696 00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:41,692 - What-- is this just a random address? 697 00:27:41,761 --> 00:27:43,827 - It's looking like it. - Somebody lives here. 698 00:27:43,896 --> 00:27:45,195 - We should definitely knock. 699 00:27:45,264 --> 00:27:50,601 ♪ ♪ 700 00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:51,835 ♪ ♪ 701 00:27:51,904 --> 00:27:54,371 There are lights on. 702 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,574 [knocks] 703 00:27:57,643 --> 00:28:03,547 ♪ ♪ 704 00:28:03,616 --> 00:28:05,683 - I'm more shocked that they actually left the TV. 705 00:28:05,751 --> 00:28:07,718 - I'm really blown about seeing this TV 706 00:28:07,787 --> 00:28:10,421 when we pulled up, like it's-- - Ooh, ooh. 707 00:28:12,391 --> 00:28:14,625 - I'm more shocked that they actually left the TV. 708 00:28:14,694 --> 00:28:16,527 - I'm really blown about seeing this TV 709 00:28:16,595 --> 00:28:18,429 when we pulled up. Like, it's crazy. 710 00:28:18,497 --> 00:28:21,765 - Ooh, ooh. - Hi. 711 00:28:21,834 --> 00:28:24,435 - Hi. - Hi. 712 00:28:24,503 --> 00:28:25,636 - Hi. 713 00:28:25,705 --> 00:28:26,937 - Nev. 714 00:28:27,006 --> 00:28:28,539 - Hi, Doris. - Doris. 715 00:28:28,607 --> 00:28:30,107 All right, nice to meet you. 716 00:28:30,176 --> 00:28:32,810 - So you're not Melissa or Meghan? 717 00:28:32,878 --> 00:28:36,780 - Are you who we've been communicating with? 718 00:28:36,849 --> 00:28:38,048 Are you the person that's been talking 719 00:28:38,117 --> 00:28:41,118 to John this whole time? - Yeah. 720 00:28:41,187 --> 00:28:42,820 [soft dramatic music] 721 00:28:42,888 --> 00:28:44,788 - We also obviously talked to some guy. 722 00:28:44,857 --> 00:28:46,824 - Yeah, that's a friend of mine, Phil. 723 00:28:46,892 --> 00:28:48,792 - Okay, his name is Phil? - Yeah. 724 00:28:48,861 --> 00:28:51,095 I just kind of needed someone to help me out, 725 00:28:51,163 --> 00:28:53,330 you know, to kind of get in the middle of it. 726 00:28:53,399 --> 00:28:56,967 - OK, before we get into questions and kind of clear-- 727 00:28:57,036 --> 00:28:59,269 why don't you just kind of let us know 728 00:28:59,338 --> 00:29:01,171 what's up from your side of things so that 729 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,274 we can better understand how this all went down? 730 00:29:04,343 --> 00:29:09,313 - Well, I've been in a, like, very vulnerable state. 731 00:29:09,381 --> 00:29:11,982 I've been [bleep] over a lot in a lot of relationships, 732 00:29:12,051 --> 00:29:16,320 so creating the Meghan account has caused me 733 00:29:16,388 --> 00:29:19,156 to let my wall down a little bit. 734 00:29:19,225 --> 00:29:20,858 Everything that I have told him, though, 735 00:29:20,926 --> 00:29:23,861 has been true, other than the picture, of course. 736 00:29:23,929 --> 00:29:27,865 Picture is definitely not me. - Okay, and kids? 737 00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:29,933 - I do have kids. - Two kids. 738 00:29:30,002 --> 00:29:32,302 - I do, I have two boys, yeah. - OK, so that's all true. 739 00:29:32,371 --> 00:29:34,171 - That's all true. 740 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,373 - You're not 20-- - I'm not 27. 741 00:29:36,442 --> 00:29:37,941 - How old are you? 742 00:29:38,010 --> 00:29:40,844 - I don't-- I really don't want to say that because-- 743 00:29:40,913 --> 00:29:43,380 - I wouldn't ask ever except you lied about your age. 744 00:29:43,449 --> 00:29:44,782 - Right. 745 00:29:44,850 --> 00:29:46,517 - And I just feel like in this context, 746 00:29:46,585 --> 00:29:49,386 you kind of have to confess what your actual age is. 747 00:29:49,455 --> 00:29:51,455 - Oh, my goodness. - Because you lied. 748 00:29:51,524 --> 00:29:52,890 - I can't-- I really am not comfortable 749 00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:54,324 sharing my age right now. 750 00:29:54,393 --> 00:29:56,026 John, I will definitely tell you my age 751 00:29:56,095 --> 00:29:57,161 when I'm comfortable. 752 00:29:57,229 --> 00:29:58,796 - What's the problem? I mean-- 753 00:29:58,864 --> 00:30:03,000 - I have a lot of emotional damage from my exes. 754 00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:04,735 And you could tell how much [bleep] he had went through, 755 00:30:04,804 --> 00:30:06,336 and I went through a lot of [bleep] too. 756 00:30:06,405 --> 00:30:10,073 You know, so I guess 757 00:30:10,142 --> 00:30:12,376 I also wanted to see, you know, 758 00:30:12,444 --> 00:30:14,411 if I looked like somebody else, 759 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,247 maybe thinner, you know, a little younger, 760 00:30:17,316 --> 00:30:19,917 see what the reaction was going to be. 761 00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:21,585 Oh, my God I'm going to cry. 762 00:30:21,654 --> 00:30:25,155 Because, like, I'm really sorry. 763 00:30:25,224 --> 00:30:27,391 It was like the response was different for me. 764 00:30:27,459 --> 00:30:30,227 You know. 765 00:30:30,296 --> 00:30:31,862 Sorry, I'm breaking down. 766 00:30:31,931 --> 00:30:34,498 - But why didn't you talk to him on the phone? 767 00:30:34,567 --> 00:30:37,835 - I think when I heard a little bit about him 768 00:30:37,903 --> 00:30:39,736 investigating into Meghan, 769 00:30:39,805 --> 00:30:41,905 I knew her voice was going to be different. 770 00:30:41,974 --> 00:30:43,073 You know? 771 00:30:43,142 --> 00:30:45,342 ♪ ♪ 772 00:30:45,411 --> 00:30:47,711 - And the text messages that John got 773 00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:49,947 last night from Doris? 774 00:30:50,015 --> 00:30:51,715 - Yes, that was me. - Oh, that was you. 775 00:30:51,784 --> 00:30:53,984 And then the other one? - Christine. 776 00:30:54,053 --> 00:30:56,019 - That's my friend, Melissa. - Right. 777 00:30:56,088 --> 00:30:57,855 - Oh, that's your friend. - A really good friend of mine. 778 00:30:57,923 --> 00:30:59,122 - She texted for you. - Yeah. 779 00:30:59,191 --> 00:31:01,792 - OK so that's Melissa who posted on your wall. 780 00:31:01,861 --> 00:31:04,027 You really been lying to me for three months, 781 00:31:04,096 --> 00:31:06,964 and I've never been lied to that long. 782 00:31:07,032 --> 00:31:09,099 I'm just blown right now. 783 00:31:09,168 --> 00:31:10,634 Like, if you know that I've been through [bleep], 784 00:31:10,703 --> 00:31:12,269 you shouldn't just kept on lying to me. 785 00:31:12,338 --> 00:31:13,637 - Everything I have told you is true, 786 00:31:13,706 --> 00:31:15,138 other than the physicality. 787 00:31:15,207 --> 00:31:16,373 - Everything else you've told me is true? 788 00:31:16,442 --> 00:31:18,709 - Yeah, other than the physicality of it. 789 00:31:20,512 --> 00:31:21,778 - But we know that the Meghan page is fake. 790 00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:26,283 - But you can't--that's kind of manipulative to say. 791 00:31:26,352 --> 00:31:29,453 Because you did lie to him, so you can't say, 792 00:31:29,521 --> 00:31:31,154 "I hope that you're not that shallow 793 00:31:31,223 --> 00:31:32,489 because we have an emotional connection." 794 00:31:32,558 --> 00:31:34,324 That's going to tug on his heartstrings 795 00:31:34,393 --> 00:31:36,326 and make him think that he now has to have a relationship. 796 00:31:36,395 --> 00:31:38,562 - No, no, not at all. No. 797 00:31:38,631 --> 00:31:39,997 - It's not shallow for somebody to want somebody 798 00:31:40,065 --> 00:31:41,598 to tell them the truth. - Telling the truth. 799 00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:44,701 - You know, I just-- 800 00:31:44,770 --> 00:31:46,336 my intention was not to hurt you. 801 00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:47,771 You know what I mean? 802 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,973 I'm probably getting hurt more because I feel so bad, 803 00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:53,010 you know? - Do you need a minute? 804 00:31:53,078 --> 00:31:54,478 - Yeah. 805 00:31:54,546 --> 00:31:58,348 - Should we go in the car or something? 806 00:31:58,417 --> 00:32:03,887 ♪ ♪ 807 00:32:03,956 --> 00:32:05,989 - Um... - I feel bad. 808 00:32:06,058 --> 00:32:09,126 ♪ ♪ 809 00:32:09,194 --> 00:32:10,794 I mean, I hope he can-- he handles it, 810 00:32:10,863 --> 00:32:12,162 you know, all right. 811 00:32:12,231 --> 00:32:13,964 I mean, that's why I didn't want to, 812 00:32:14,033 --> 00:32:16,934 like, keep continuing this. You know? 813 00:32:17,002 --> 00:32:19,169 God, I'm going to keep crying. 814 00:32:19,238 --> 00:32:21,471 [chuckles] [sighs] 815 00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:24,141 That wasn't my plan to, you know-- 816 00:32:24,209 --> 00:32:26,576 the waterworks to come. 817 00:32:26,645 --> 00:32:29,579 - I have yet to see any water. 818 00:32:29,648 --> 00:32:32,416 - Yeah, but they're in there. 819 00:32:32,484 --> 00:32:34,184 - This [bleep] is crazy. 820 00:32:34,253 --> 00:32:36,320 I already came expecting the catfish. 821 00:32:36,388 --> 00:32:39,389 I don't know. She seems really nice. 822 00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:41,224 She lied. I can't do it. 823 00:32:41,293 --> 00:32:42,492 She is fun to talk to. 824 00:32:42,561 --> 00:32:43,460 I maybe just talk to her sometimes, 825 00:32:43,529 --> 00:32:45,362 I'm just thinking about it. 826 00:32:45,431 --> 00:32:46,563 - Do you want to know what I think? 827 00:32:46,632 --> 00:32:47,564 - Maybe I'm just too nice of a guy. 828 00:32:47,633 --> 00:32:50,067 You mean just cut my losses? 829 00:32:50,135 --> 00:32:52,369 - You are a very nice guy, very good guy. 830 00:32:52,438 --> 00:32:53,737 She knows that. 831 00:32:53,806 --> 00:32:57,507 The things that she's saying are very manipulative. 832 00:32:57,576 --> 00:32:59,676 Saying, you know, "You're probably hurt, 833 00:32:59,745 --> 00:33:02,079 but I'm probably hurt more." How can you say that? 834 00:33:02,147 --> 00:33:03,680 - Yeah. 835 00:33:03,749 --> 00:33:05,716 - To say, "Well, you know, everything I've told you 836 00:33:05,784 --> 00:33:07,084 "is true, except for the pictures. 837 00:33:07,152 --> 00:33:09,720 If you're shallow, then"-- - If I'm shallow, yeah. 838 00:33:09,788 --> 00:33:11,254 - It has nothing to do with you. 839 00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:13,557 - I'm glad you got that. It's not true. 840 00:33:13,625 --> 00:33:15,892 - Am I being shallow? - No. 841 00:33:15,961 --> 00:33:18,729 I understand that she might be an emotional person, 842 00:33:18,797 --> 00:33:20,497 but all those emotions 843 00:33:20,566 --> 00:33:22,933 didn't actually result in any tears that I saw. 844 00:33:23,002 --> 00:33:25,168 - Yeah, no. 845 00:33:25,237 --> 00:33:27,571 - But I mean, we had a connection. 846 00:33:27,639 --> 00:33:30,741 Everything was just-- was so real. 847 00:33:30,809 --> 00:33:33,777 - You did actually imagine yourself 848 00:33:33,846 --> 00:33:35,278 in a relationship with him? 849 00:33:35,347 --> 00:33:37,447 - Yeah, we have so much in common. 850 00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:38,882 It's crazy. 851 00:33:38,951 --> 00:33:41,551 Do I expect him to want to date me, you know, 852 00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:43,220 just meeting me for the first time right now? 853 00:33:43,288 --> 00:33:45,155 I don't know. 854 00:33:45,224 --> 00:33:48,058 - I don't want for you to feel like you have to 855 00:33:48,127 --> 00:33:50,961 be friendly to her just because she seems friendly 856 00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:54,231 because there are still things about her that seem off to me. 857 00:33:54,299 --> 00:33:56,566 - She might be a good person sometimes, 858 00:33:56,635 --> 00:33:57,734 but she's been lying so far. 859 00:33:57,803 --> 00:33:59,536 So what else she'd been lying about? 860 00:33:59,605 --> 00:34:03,040 - I honestly thought he would have been like, you know, 861 00:34:03,108 --> 00:34:06,076 "If everything that you were saying was true, 862 00:34:06,145 --> 00:34:08,412 "other than the profile pic, right, 863 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,248 "I am willing to either give this a shot 864 00:34:11,316 --> 00:34:13,884 or at least continue talking and seeing where it goes." 865 00:34:13,952 --> 00:34:16,920 I really don't know right now myself. 866 00:34:16,989 --> 00:34:19,489 I'm willing-- like, am I open to it? 867 00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:22,726 Yes. Totally open to it though. 868 00:34:22,795 --> 00:34:25,429 - But you know that's not up to you, right? 869 00:34:25,497 --> 00:34:27,764 ♪ ♪ 870 00:34:29,601 --> 00:34:32,469 How are you feeling now that you've sort of-- 871 00:34:32,538 --> 00:34:35,806 - I don't know. I want to know how he feels. 872 00:34:35,874 --> 00:34:39,576 Like, honestly, I'm more concerned about him. 873 00:34:39,645 --> 00:34:41,144 - Because she's been lying to me 874 00:34:41,213 --> 00:34:42,579 and been trying to manipulate me 875 00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:43,880 from here and make me feel sorry for her. 876 00:34:43,949 --> 00:34:46,316 For what reason? - At least you cut it here. 877 00:34:46,385 --> 00:34:47,717 - Yeah. 878 00:34:47,786 --> 00:34:49,519 - But at the same time, like, your feelings about it 879 00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:52,055 are still valid, and now you can tell her 880 00:34:52,124 --> 00:34:54,758 how you really feel. Ready? 881 00:34:54,827 --> 00:34:56,226 - Yeah, time for this. 882 00:34:56,295 --> 00:34:59,129 [soft dramatic music] 883 00:34:59,198 --> 00:35:00,297 - I'm also here about Melissa. 884 00:35:00,365 --> 00:35:01,765 I just want to make sure I understand 885 00:35:01,834 --> 00:35:03,867 the extent of her involvement. - She's my best friend. 886 00:35:03,936 --> 00:35:05,402 - OK, so she's your best friend. 887 00:35:05,471 --> 00:35:07,537 Did she know you were talking to John 888 00:35:07,606 --> 00:35:09,339 and that you were catfishing him? 889 00:35:09,408 --> 00:35:11,241 - Yeah. - Okay. 890 00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:13,844 But John was never messaging anyone else? 891 00:35:13,912 --> 00:35:15,312 - No, never, no, it was all me. 892 00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:17,114 No, yeah, for sure. It was all me. 893 00:35:17,182 --> 00:35:19,249 - OK, well, I mean, look, 894 00:35:19,318 --> 00:35:22,619 I asked Doris how she's feeling now. 895 00:35:22,688 --> 00:35:24,521 And her response, "Well, I'm concerned 896 00:35:24,590 --> 00:35:26,523 about how John's feeling." - I'm pretty pissed right now. 897 00:35:26,592 --> 00:35:28,892 Like, she just tried to-- I almost fell for it too. 898 00:35:28,961 --> 00:35:30,961 She tried to get me to feel sorry for her 899 00:35:31,029 --> 00:35:33,763 for lying to me for so long. I don't get how that works. 900 00:35:33,832 --> 00:35:35,098 Like, you knew I've been 901 00:35:35,167 --> 00:35:37,300 in a manipulative relationship before. 902 00:35:37,369 --> 00:35:39,369 You just tried to play me again like I'm dumb. 903 00:35:39,438 --> 00:35:42,072 I don't get how this is going to-- 904 00:35:42,141 --> 00:35:45,942 ugh, like, just why? 905 00:35:46,011 --> 00:35:47,978 Like, I had some real feelings there. 906 00:35:48,046 --> 00:35:50,413 - I mean, if you think that I'm manipulative-- 907 00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:52,349 - You really just tried to play me right there. 908 00:35:52,417 --> 00:35:53,750 - How did I play you? 909 00:35:53,819 --> 00:35:55,285 I would love to know. please tell me. 910 00:35:55,354 --> 00:35:57,053 - You're trying to act all sad and sweet 911 00:35:57,122 --> 00:35:59,189 and like you hurt more than me. There's no way. 912 00:35:59,258 --> 00:36:00,524 I've been the one that's been played. 913 00:36:00,592 --> 00:36:02,526 - That's what I'm saying, I'm feeling for you. 914 00:36:02,594 --> 00:36:04,294 I'm sad for you. 915 00:36:04,363 --> 00:36:06,763 OK, I could give a less damn about myself. 916 00:36:06,832 --> 00:36:08,031 - I don't know. 917 00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:09,766 That's not what I heard a minute ago, but-- 918 00:36:09,835 --> 00:36:11,735 - I think that you have been through a lot... 919 00:36:11,803 --> 00:36:15,071 - Yes. - And I feel for you. 920 00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:17,340 But I think with what you have been through, 921 00:36:17,409 --> 00:36:19,442 you may not even be conscious of it, 922 00:36:19,511 --> 00:36:22,913 but I think that the few things that you have said 923 00:36:22,981 --> 00:36:24,648 have been manipulative. 924 00:36:24,716 --> 00:36:26,850 Saying, "I care about you more than I care 925 00:36:26,919 --> 00:36:29,486 about myself is now"-- - Feelings. 926 00:36:29,555 --> 00:36:33,123 - Yes, but you have now put it in his mind 927 00:36:33,192 --> 00:36:35,292 that he needs to feel sorry for you 928 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,626 because you don't care about yourself. 929 00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:38,728 - Okay, I don't want you to feel sorry for me at all. 930 00:36:38,797 --> 00:36:41,031 - And that makes him feel like his feelings are invalid. 931 00:36:41,099 --> 00:36:44,301 - Can I say that, or does that sound manipulative too? 932 00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:45,969 I'm just being open. Like, I don't want-- 933 00:36:46,038 --> 00:36:49,539 - I don't think--I don't think that you're conscious of it, 934 00:36:49,608 --> 00:36:52,375 but it is something to consider moving forward 935 00:36:52,444 --> 00:36:53,944 with how you communicate. 936 00:36:54,012 --> 00:36:55,579 - I would love for him to tell me where he's coming from, 937 00:36:55,647 --> 00:36:56,947 though, for real. - I ain't got time to waste. 938 00:36:57,015 --> 00:36:58,148 - I would have told you eventually. 939 00:36:58,217 --> 00:36:59,983 - You just wasted three months of my life 940 00:37:00,052 --> 00:37:01,518 I'm not going to get back. 941 00:37:01,587 --> 00:37:04,354 - I didn't know that I was wasting your life. 942 00:37:04,423 --> 00:37:06,623 - Don't feel sorry for me. 943 00:37:06,692 --> 00:37:09,025 - I still thought it was a good experience 944 00:37:09,094 --> 00:37:12,128 to be able to talk to somebody. - To talk to somebody? 945 00:37:12,197 --> 00:37:13,296 - Yeah. - Yeah. 946 00:37:13,365 --> 00:37:14,531 But I didn't want to talk to a stranger. 947 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,399 That's the thing. - I was myself. 948 00:37:16,468 --> 00:37:17,867 It's just not the picture, for sure. 949 00:37:17,936 --> 00:37:19,035 - I want to know who I'm talking to. 950 00:37:19,104 --> 00:37:20,637 - Yeah. 951 00:37:20,706 --> 00:37:22,038 - How are you just feeling right now? 952 00:37:22,107 --> 00:37:25,842 When you go home, are you open to her messaging you? 953 00:37:25,911 --> 00:37:28,311 - Oh, no, I'm pretty blown by all this. 954 00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:30,947 - I'm-- take all the time you need. 955 00:37:31,016 --> 00:37:32,415 - Are you able to delete the Meghan profile? 956 00:37:32,484 --> 00:37:33,550 - Absolutely. 957 00:37:33,619 --> 00:37:34,818 I can do it right now. - Can we? 958 00:37:34,886 --> 00:37:36,353 I just feel like it'd be good for everyone. 959 00:37:36,421 --> 00:37:38,555 - [bleep] yeah, yes, yeah. Let me go get it. 960 00:37:38,624 --> 00:37:42,058 I actually will be very happy to do that. 961 00:37:42,127 --> 00:37:44,060 Delete account. - There it is. 962 00:37:44,129 --> 00:37:45,996 - Yeah, I'm free. I'm free. 963 00:37:46,064 --> 00:37:47,731 - That was exhausting. - Yes. 964 00:37:47,799 --> 00:37:48,932 Thank you. - Good job. 965 00:37:49,001 --> 00:37:50,400 - I'm free. 966 00:37:50,469 --> 00:37:52,469 This is not something I would normally do. 967 00:37:52,537 --> 00:37:54,471 I'm just--I'm letting you know that, John. 968 00:37:54,539 --> 00:37:57,807 It's like not-- if that makes it any better. 969 00:37:57,876 --> 00:38:00,076 - So the TV. 970 00:38:00,145 --> 00:38:01,911 - Yeah, what are we doing about this television? 971 00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:03,513 - Yeah, I got it for you, please take it. 972 00:38:03,582 --> 00:38:06,049 - Are you sure? - I am totally sure. 973 00:38:06,118 --> 00:38:07,450 No hard feelings. 974 00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:08,551 - At least I got something out of this. 975 00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:09,953 - There you go. - Let's take the TV. 976 00:38:10,022 --> 00:38:11,187 - John, why don't you grab it? 977 00:38:11,256 --> 00:38:13,923 - So that's the-- oh, he's going to grab it all. 978 00:38:13,992 --> 00:38:16,192 - You sure? 979 00:38:16,261 --> 00:38:17,827 - I don't think the kids are going to break this one. 980 00:38:17,896 --> 00:38:19,963 For sure. - Yeah. 981 00:38:20,032 --> 00:38:22,932 Well, good luck to you. - Thank you. 982 00:38:23,001 --> 00:38:24,434 - We wish you all the best. 983 00:38:24,503 --> 00:38:26,169 Thanks for coming-- coming forward. 984 00:38:26,238 --> 00:38:28,138 - Yes, thank you. - Nice to meet you. 985 00:38:28,206 --> 00:38:29,739 I wish you the best. - Thank you. 986 00:38:29,808 --> 00:38:31,074 - Me too. - Ready? 987 00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:32,942 Yeah, I'm ready. - OK. 988 00:38:33,011 --> 00:38:34,711 - Hope you find what you're looking for. 989 00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:36,346 - Thank you. - I'll at least give you a hug. 990 00:38:36,415 --> 00:38:38,114 - OK. - OK. 991 00:38:38,183 --> 00:38:39,749 Bye. - Bye. 992 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:41,384 - Bye. 993 00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:43,286 - Well-- 994 00:38:43,355 --> 00:38:45,355 - I mean, we went here expecting a catfish, 995 00:38:45,424 --> 00:38:47,424 and that's what we got, so... 996 00:38:47,492 --> 00:38:49,292 I just hope she changes, personally. 997 00:38:49,361 --> 00:38:51,594 - ♪ I want you to hold me ♪ 998 00:38:51,663 --> 00:38:54,097 ♪ Console me, control me ♪ 999 00:38:54,166 --> 00:38:58,435 ♪ You know that I'm better off out here alone ♪ 1000 00:38:58,503 --> 00:39:01,404 - I'm glad, though, that you spoke up for yourself. 1001 00:39:01,473 --> 00:39:04,074 - I'm still learning to speak up for myself sometimes. 1002 00:39:04,142 --> 00:39:05,909 I'm getting there. 1003 00:39:05,977 --> 00:39:08,678 - But I think this is a good start in knowing 1004 00:39:08,747 --> 00:39:10,814 how to hold other people accountable. 1005 00:39:10,882 --> 00:39:13,116 On to the next one. 1006 00:39:13,185 --> 00:39:15,785 - The beat goes on. 1007 00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:21,358 ♪ ♪ 1008 00:39:21,426 --> 00:39:23,526 - Hey. - What's up, John? 1009 00:39:23,595 --> 00:39:25,128 How are you? 1010 00:39:25,197 --> 00:39:26,329 - Oh, I'm fine, I'm a little tired. 1011 00:39:26,398 --> 00:39:27,831 Got my son today. 1012 00:39:27,899 --> 00:39:29,332 He's upstairs playing video games. 1013 00:39:29,401 --> 00:39:31,968 - Is he playing video games on the new television-- 1014 00:39:32,037 --> 00:39:33,503 - From Doris? - He is. 1015 00:39:33,572 --> 00:39:37,006 - Oh, my God. - Look at that. 1016 00:39:37,075 --> 00:39:38,842 - Have you talked to Doris? - No. 1017 00:39:38,910 --> 00:39:40,577 - Well, probably for the best. 1018 00:39:40,645 --> 00:39:41,811 - What about Ty? 1019 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:42,979 What did he think about all this? 1020 00:39:43,048 --> 00:39:44,114 - Oh, he was blown. 1021 00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:46,116 He expected it more than I did. 1022 00:39:46,184 --> 00:39:47,684 - He told you so. 1023 00:39:47,753 --> 00:39:49,652 - Yeah, he did. 1024 00:39:49,721 --> 00:39:52,288 - All right, John, well, we're happy to see you smiling. 1025 00:39:52,357 --> 00:39:54,524 And now you get to find someone who hopefully 1026 00:39:54,593 --> 00:39:56,659 is who they say they are. - Exactly. 1027 00:39:56,728 --> 00:39:58,294 - Love to see it. We'll see you. 1028 00:39:58,363 --> 00:40:00,630 - Take care, buddy. - All right, thank you. 1029 00:40:00,699 --> 00:40:02,832 - Hey. - Doris. 1030 00:40:02,901 --> 00:40:05,635 - Hey, Doris. - Hi, you guys. 1031 00:40:05,704 --> 00:40:07,637 - What's up? - I'm good, I'm good. 1032 00:40:07,706 --> 00:40:10,306 Yeah, whole experience was really wild. 1033 00:40:10,375 --> 00:40:11,674 - Yeah. 1034 00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:14,077 - Do you miss that connection that you guys had? 1035 00:40:14,146 --> 00:40:16,713 - No, yeah. I don't. 1036 00:40:16,782 --> 00:40:18,948 But that was the first time I had ever met John, too, 1037 00:40:19,017 --> 00:40:22,652 so it just wasn't the same as through the computer. 1038 00:40:22,721 --> 00:40:24,220 - Do you think that part of that 1039 00:40:24,289 --> 00:40:27,323 was because you lied to him? 1040 00:40:27,392 --> 00:40:29,859 - No, Because, you know, I personally would be 1041 00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:34,063 open-minded, you know, to hear someone out. 1042 00:40:34,132 --> 00:40:37,834 I wouldn't care about a name or appearance too much. 1043 00:40:37,903 --> 00:40:41,271 - Well everyone is different. - Yes. Yes. 1044 00:40:41,339 --> 00:40:42,939 - Well, thank you for coming on the show 1045 00:40:43,008 --> 00:40:44,908 and hopefully learned something. 1046 00:40:44,976 --> 00:40:46,876 - Yes. - Now you can start new. 1047 00:40:46,945 --> 00:40:48,344 - Thank you so much. - All right. 1048 00:40:48,413 --> 00:40:51,047 - Bye. - Bye you guys, bye. 1049 00:40:53,418 --> 00:40:55,385 - I had an in-game party. 1050 00:40:55,454 --> 00:40:57,520 We really connected on an emotional level. 1051 00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:59,456 - I'm so curious to see what she looks like. 1052 00:40:59,524 --> 00:41:00,890 Whoa, hello. - Work! 1053 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:02,225 - Jesus. 1054 00:41:02,294 --> 00:41:04,227 - She's on jets. She ain't in that game. 1055 00:41:04,296 --> 00:41:06,463 - There is a real girl. Her name is Marie Taylor. 1056 00:41:06,531 --> 00:41:07,964 But that's just not who he's talking to. 1057 00:41:08,033 --> 00:41:10,166 - Hello? Hello?