1 00:00:02,135 --> 00:00:03,971 - ♪♪ MTV ♪♪ 2 00:00:04,037 --> 00:00:05,906 - What is it about Megan that you're so attracted to? 3 00:00:05,973 --> 00:00:07,241 - How sweet she is. 4 00:00:07,307 --> 00:00:09,409 I feel strongly towards her. 5 00:00:09,476 --> 00:00:11,645 - Just wish the best, man. I hope she's real. 6 00:00:11,712 --> 00:00:12,913 - Hello? 7 00:00:15,582 --> 00:00:18,719 - That means he's also likely Megan. 8 00:00:18,785 --> 00:00:20,821 - Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. 9 00:00:20,888 --> 00:00:23,790 - There's a note. - It just says, "I'm sorry." 10 00:00:23,857 --> 00:00:26,059 - Is this just a random address? 11 00:00:26,126 --> 00:00:27,394 - Ooh! - [gasps] 12 00:00:29,429 --> 00:00:32,032 - Everyone just-- just wait. 13 00:00:32,099 --> 00:00:33,433 Everyone be patient. 14 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:35,369 I promise I will get to everyone in a minute. 15 00:00:35,435 --> 00:00:37,704 No, I totally understand. 16 00:00:37,771 --> 00:00:39,940 I promise I will get to everyone, OK? 17 00:00:40,007 --> 00:00:41,575 Thank you so much. 18 00:00:41,642 --> 00:00:44,778 - I didn't know you were doing a "Sports Illustrated" signing. 19 00:00:44,845 --> 00:00:47,347 - Oh, my God, Nev! - Sorry to interrupt. 20 00:00:47,414 --> 00:00:48,682 - Sorry, everyone. 21 00:00:48,749 --> 00:00:50,284 Yeah, no problem. - Wait. 22 00:00:50,350 --> 00:00:51,552 You're getting all the attention. 23 00:00:51,618 --> 00:00:52,953 I brought stuff too. 24 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:54,021 - What'd you bring? 25 00:00:54,087 --> 00:00:55,923 - You can eat this. 26 00:00:55,989 --> 00:00:58,358 - How am I supposed to compete with cookies? 27 00:00:58,425 --> 00:00:59,893 Real life goodies. 28 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:01,862 - Anyone want me to sign their cookie? 29 00:01:01,929 --> 00:01:03,263 - Thank you, Nev. 30 00:01:03,330 --> 00:01:05,566 Oh, what a sweetheart. 31 00:01:05,632 --> 00:01:08,168 - Well, congratulations. 32 00:01:08,235 --> 00:01:09,803 - We're doing [bleep] fantastic. 33 00:01:09,870 --> 00:01:11,238 - Cheers to us. 34 00:01:11,305 --> 00:01:13,473 Do you think you're ready to dive into a new episode? 35 00:01:13,540 --> 00:01:15,242 Yes, I think so. 36 00:01:15,309 --> 00:01:16,443 - I can do anything. - Here we go. 37 00:01:16,510 --> 00:01:18,312 We got an email. 38 00:01:18,378 --> 00:01:21,014 Subject, "Worried Friend Seeking Help." 39 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:22,216 - Oh, boy. 40 00:01:22,282 --> 00:01:26,220 - "Dear Nev and Kamie, my name is Ty, 41 00:01:26,286 --> 00:01:29,289 "and I live in Charlestown, West Virginia. 42 00:01:29,356 --> 00:01:31,558 "I'm reaching out to you because 43 00:01:31,625 --> 00:01:34,261 "my best friend John has been dating this girl 44 00:01:34,328 --> 00:01:36,997 "online who I am suspicious of. 45 00:01:37,064 --> 00:01:39,533 "They've been talking for a few months 46 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,903 "and only live an hour apart." - What? 47 00:01:42,970 --> 00:01:44,938 - ♪♪ Why'd you have to lead me on? ♪♪ 48 00:01:45,005 --> 00:01:47,574 They've not met up yet or videochatted. 49 00:01:47,641 --> 00:01:50,110 "Something doesn't seem right. 50 00:01:50,177 --> 00:01:52,813 "John met Megan online, 51 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,215 and they hit it off quickly." 52 00:01:55,282 --> 00:01:57,384 ♪♪ ♪♪ 53 00:01:57,451 --> 00:02:01,755 "John has three boys, and Megan has two," wow. 54 00:02:01,822 --> 00:02:04,491 "So that is something that they really bonded over. 55 00:02:04,558 --> 00:02:07,261 "Megan seems perfect for him. 56 00:02:07,327 --> 00:02:08,962 "They talk every single day, 57 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:11,431 "and John always seems to be all smiles 58 00:02:11,498 --> 00:02:12,833 when he's messaging her." 59 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:14,935 - ♪♪ I'll run back into your arms ♪♪ 60 00:02:15,002 --> 00:02:17,104 ♪♪ As you promise so much ♪♪ 61 00:02:17,171 --> 00:02:21,041 ♪♪ You can make me your prisoner again ♪♪ 62 00:02:21,108 --> 00:02:24,745 - "He thinks she could even be the one." 63 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:26,446 - ♪♪ Forget all that I've learned ♪♪ 64 00:02:26,513 --> 00:02:29,983 ♪♪ You can make me your prisoner ♪♪ 65 00:02:30,050 --> 00:02:32,452 - "He keeps saying that they will meet soon, 66 00:02:32,519 --> 00:02:34,855 "but I'm starting to think it'll never happen. 67 00:02:34,922 --> 00:02:37,357 "Either Meghan is toying with John's emotions 68 00:02:37,424 --> 00:02:39,393 "or not who she says she is, 69 00:02:39,459 --> 00:02:42,496 "but I care about my friend, and I think 70 00:02:42,563 --> 00:02:44,631 "he deserves to know the answer. 71 00:02:44,698 --> 00:02:46,200 "He's a single dad, 72 00:02:46,266 --> 00:02:48,235 "doesn't have time to waste on a relationship 73 00:02:48,302 --> 00:02:51,271 "that will end up breaking his heart again. 74 00:02:51,338 --> 00:02:53,640 Thanks, Ty." 75 00:02:53,707 --> 00:02:55,909 All right. Well, let's call Ty. 76 00:02:55,976 --> 00:02:58,645 Talk about John. 77 00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:01,281 - Hey, what's up, Ty? 78 00:03:01,348 --> 00:03:03,183 - Guess who it is? 79 00:03:04,084 --> 00:03:05,686 - Yep, it is. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. 80 00:03:05,752 --> 00:03:07,721 - Absolutely. - So listen, Ty. 81 00:03:07,788 --> 00:03:11,225 We read your email, and there is cause for concern here. 82 00:03:11,291 --> 00:03:12,226 - Mm-hmm. 83 00:03:24,605 --> 00:03:25,906 - What's up with John? 84 00:03:25,973 --> 00:03:27,708 Does he know you reached out to us? 85 00:03:28,709 --> 00:03:30,010 - All right, great. So wait. 86 00:03:30,077 --> 00:03:31,578 So why don't we just plan on meeting you guys 87 00:03:31,645 --> 00:03:34,381 in West Virginia, and then we'll just plan on 88 00:03:34,448 --> 00:03:36,116 all getting together tomorrow? 89 00:03:38,352 --> 00:03:40,754 - Thank you, Ty. - Bye, Ty. 90 00:03:40,821 --> 00:03:42,756 All right. Going to West Virginia. 91 00:03:42,823 --> 00:03:45,425 - Whoo! - Bring my magazines. 92 00:03:45,492 --> 00:03:47,928 - They should do a CGI of the plane flying 93 00:03:47,995 --> 00:03:51,064 and just, like, magazines papering the country. 94 00:03:51,131 --> 00:03:52,499 - Let's go. 95 00:03:52,566 --> 00:03:53,901 - ♪♪ Like my style ♪♪ 96 00:03:53,967 --> 00:03:55,736 ♪♪ Trust me boy, I know what y'all like ♪♪ 97 00:03:55,802 --> 00:03:59,006 - All right, West Virginia. - West Virginia. 98 00:03:59,072 --> 00:04:03,243 - Ooh, what a beautiful June day. 99 00:04:03,310 --> 00:04:04,678 - Yeah, it's really pretty. 100 00:04:04,745 --> 00:04:07,648 - Are we meeting up with Ty and Josh? 101 00:04:07,714 --> 00:04:08,782 - Ty said he was going to set it up. 102 00:04:08,849 --> 00:04:10,017 - Right. 103 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:12,786 - So I'm assuming we're going to get both. 104 00:04:12,853 --> 00:04:14,888 - ♪♪ No, I'm good ♪♪ 105 00:04:14,955 --> 00:04:18,325 - All right, here we are. This is us. 106 00:04:18,392 --> 00:04:20,294 OK. You ready? 107 00:04:22,930 --> 00:04:24,865 [knocks] 108 00:04:26,333 --> 00:04:28,602 - Hey! Wait, John or Ty? 109 00:04:28,669 --> 00:04:31,538 - John. - John! 110 00:04:31,605 --> 00:04:32,840 - Nice to meet you. - Good to meet you. 111 00:04:32,906 --> 00:04:34,608 I'm Kamie. - Nice 112 00:04:34,675 --> 00:04:36,543 - Wow. Hey. 113 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:38,779 - Hey, what's up, guys? - You must be Ty. 114 00:04:38,846 --> 00:04:40,581 I thought, but you know. - What's up? 115 00:04:40,647 --> 00:04:42,115 - Handshake. - Let's discuss. 116 00:04:42,182 --> 00:04:44,618 - I guess we're going to play musical chairs. 117 00:04:44,685 --> 00:04:47,321 - What is that called? - There's only one chair. 118 00:04:47,387 --> 00:04:49,156 Ah, oh, we got some chairs. 119 00:04:49,223 --> 00:04:52,226 - I'm not used to company. - This is your living room? 120 00:04:52,292 --> 00:04:53,994 - Yeah, but I'm never in here, man. 121 00:04:54,061 --> 00:04:55,395 I'm always upstairs with kids or something. 122 00:04:55,462 --> 00:04:57,664 - Wait, so you have three kids? 123 00:04:57,731 --> 00:04:59,199 - Yeah. - Wow. 124 00:04:59,266 --> 00:05:02,269 - All same girl? - No, I have two baby moms. 125 00:05:02,336 --> 00:05:04,771 - That's a lot of kids at a young age. 126 00:05:04,838 --> 00:05:07,174 - I had my first one when I was 18, 127 00:05:07,241 --> 00:05:08,842 almost pretty much 19. 128 00:05:08,909 --> 00:05:12,246 - But you guys are both actively raising your kids? 129 00:05:12,312 --> 00:05:13,447 - Yeah. - Yeah. 130 00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:15,015 - What's the dating scene like up here? 131 00:05:15,082 --> 00:05:18,151 - Oh, terrible. - Terrible. 132 00:05:18,218 --> 00:05:20,988 Everybody around here is just crazy. 133 00:05:21,054 --> 00:05:23,390 - So how did you meet-- - Megan. 134 00:05:23,457 --> 00:05:24,925 Through Facebook. 135 00:05:24,992 --> 00:05:26,293 Yeah, she just messaged me out of the blue one day. 136 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,661 And she was like, "I like your hair." 137 00:05:27,728 --> 00:05:29,296 And I was like, "I like your face." 138 00:05:29,363 --> 00:05:32,232 And we just started talking about our days after that. 139 00:05:32,299 --> 00:05:34,234 I don't know when she added me on Facebook. 140 00:05:34,301 --> 00:05:35,636 - Oh, she had added you... - Yeah. 141 00:05:35,702 --> 00:05:37,104 - And then sent you a message, okay. 142 00:05:37,171 --> 00:05:38,906 - Did you have any mutual friends? 143 00:05:38,972 --> 00:05:41,208 - A few, but like, nobody she would actually, 144 00:05:41,275 --> 00:05:43,443 like, talk to, and nobody I talk to either, 145 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:44,978 but, yeah, she's 27, 146 00:05:45,045 --> 00:05:47,881 and she has two kids, and she lives in D. C. 147 00:05:47,948 --> 00:05:49,082 - Does she talk about the relationship 148 00:05:49,149 --> 00:05:50,350 with their dad? 149 00:05:50,417 --> 00:05:51,385 - They don't see her-- their dad, though. 150 00:05:51,451 --> 00:05:53,086 I know that. 151 00:05:53,153 --> 00:05:55,189 Apparently he was real manipulative and everything, 152 00:05:55,255 --> 00:05:58,091 and she keeps her profile away from him. 153 00:05:58,158 --> 00:06:00,961 She don't, like, post too much on Facebook. 154 00:06:01,028 --> 00:06:03,063 - Right. - Ty is not buying it. 155 00:06:03,130 --> 00:06:05,666 - Where does she work? What does she do? 156 00:06:06,333 --> 00:06:07,901 - But she also--she does, like, Twitch game. 157 00:06:07,968 --> 00:06:11,004 She gets paid through that. She makes YouTube videos. 158 00:06:11,071 --> 00:06:12,372 - She hustles. - Yeah, she's a hustler. 159 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:13,841 - Right. 160 00:06:13,907 --> 00:06:15,909 - Ty's like, "She's a hustler all right. 161 00:06:15,976 --> 00:06:17,544 She's hustling my boy." - Yeah. 162 00:06:17,611 --> 00:06:19,646 - I got a little more faith than him, but yeah. 163 00:06:19,713 --> 00:06:21,315 - So she has other social media... 164 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:22,816 - Yeah. 165 00:06:22,883 --> 00:06:24,318 - That she told you about or that you found? 166 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:26,220 - No, I found. 167 00:06:26,286 --> 00:06:28,021 See, on one of her Facebook photos, 168 00:06:28,088 --> 00:06:31,558 there was a ID on there, QUEENHD. 169 00:06:31,625 --> 00:06:33,327 So I looked it up on Google, 170 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:34,995 and then I found her Instagram and Twitch 171 00:06:35,062 --> 00:06:36,463 and just, like, gamer stuff. 172 00:06:36,530 --> 00:06:39,499 - Has she talked about her Twitch streaming and her-- 173 00:06:39,566 --> 00:06:41,068 - Yeah, yeah. She game streams. 174 00:06:41,134 --> 00:06:42,970 - Okay, so that's something that she's discussed with you. 175 00:06:43,036 --> 00:06:44,137 - Yeah. 176 00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:46,006 - Was that before you found the pages? 177 00:06:46,073 --> 00:06:47,975 - No, she just said she games. 178 00:06:48,041 --> 00:06:49,510 She didn't say she, like, streamed or stuff. 179 00:06:49,576 --> 00:06:51,845 - So do you watch her on-- do you watch her streams? 180 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:54,481 - No, I'll look, and it says she was active, like, 181 00:06:54,548 --> 00:06:56,250 three hours ago, like, streaming. 182 00:06:56,316 --> 00:06:57,851 - You've never messaged her or... 183 00:06:57,918 --> 00:07:00,020 - No. - "I'm watching your stream." 184 00:07:00,087 --> 00:07:02,122 And she could be like, "Hey"-- 185 00:07:02,189 --> 00:07:03,323 - I usually catch them when they're late. 186 00:07:03,390 --> 00:07:04,558 - OK. 187 00:07:04,625 --> 00:07:06,293 - So you connect on Facebook. - Yeah. 188 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,128 - Is that the only place that you guys talk, 189 00:07:08,195 --> 00:07:09,930 or do you also have each other's numbers? 190 00:07:09,997 --> 00:07:12,666 - No, she has my number. I don't have hers. 191 00:07:12,733 --> 00:07:15,836 - She never texted you? - No, she's never texted me. 192 00:07:15,903 --> 00:07:17,337 She just asked for my number 193 00:07:17,404 --> 00:07:18,839 and just never did anything with it. 194 00:07:18,906 --> 00:07:20,407 - That's weird, right? - Yeah, it is weird. 195 00:07:20,474 --> 00:07:22,509 She definitely could have, like, FaceTimed me by now. 196 00:07:22,576 --> 00:07:25,078 - Especially over the time span y'all been talking. 197 00:07:25,145 --> 00:07:26,647 - Every time I asked her, some excuse 198 00:07:26,713 --> 00:07:27,981 or something popping up. 199 00:07:28,048 --> 00:07:29,783 She's busy with the kids, 200 00:07:29,850 --> 00:07:32,152 soccer game, work, 201 00:07:32,219 --> 00:07:34,888 just whatever excuse she can bring, I guess. 202 00:07:34,955 --> 00:07:36,957 - Which is weird with her doing, like, streaming. 203 00:07:37,024 --> 00:07:39,126 - Yeah, with her being, like, a Twitch player-- 204 00:07:39,193 --> 00:07:40,294 - With her putting herself out there-- 205 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,229 putting herself out there 24/7-- 206 00:07:42,296 --> 00:07:43,931 - You think you would video me-- 207 00:07:43,997 --> 00:07:46,366 - Do you feel like the girl that's on the Twitch 208 00:07:46,433 --> 00:07:48,235 and on YouTube and on social media 209 00:07:48,302 --> 00:07:50,070 is the girl that you're talking to? 210 00:07:50,137 --> 00:07:51,038 - Kind of believe everything she says, 211 00:07:51,104 --> 00:07:52,673 as dumb as that sounds. 212 00:07:52,739 --> 00:07:54,708 She seems pretty honest. 213 00:07:54,775 --> 00:07:57,878 - How serious has your conversation been 214 00:07:57,945 --> 00:08:00,080 about, like, your relationship? 215 00:08:00,147 --> 00:08:01,849 - Oh, real serious. I mean, yeah. 216 00:08:01,915 --> 00:08:03,550 I mean, I really like her. 217 00:08:03,617 --> 00:08:05,819 - What is it about her that you're so attracted to? 218 00:08:05,886 --> 00:08:07,554 - How sweet she is. 219 00:08:07,621 --> 00:08:09,056 She seems like she's always like in a good mood. 220 00:08:09,122 --> 00:08:10,657 If I'm having a bad day, she'll kind of 221 00:08:10,724 --> 00:08:11,925 try to cheer me up, 222 00:08:11,992 --> 00:08:13,393 tell me everything's going to be OK. 223 00:08:13,460 --> 00:08:14,995 She seems like she always knows what to say. 224 00:08:15,062 --> 00:08:18,665 I can tell she's a good person. I feel strongly towards her. 225 00:08:18,732 --> 00:08:21,235 - I mean, I know-- I have two kids running around. 226 00:08:21,301 --> 00:08:23,337 Like, I personally know it can be stressful. 227 00:08:23,403 --> 00:08:25,506 So especially, like, give his free time 228 00:08:25,572 --> 00:08:29,142 to her says a lot. - I hope she's real. 229 00:08:29,209 --> 00:08:31,411 - How long has it been since your last long relationship? 230 00:08:31,478 --> 00:08:33,647 - Beginning of the year. - How long were you with her? 231 00:08:33,714 --> 00:08:35,983 - Six years. - Wow. OK. 232 00:08:36,049 --> 00:08:37,885 So you broke up with your girlfriend of six years, 233 00:08:37,951 --> 00:08:39,253 like, the beginning of this year? 234 00:08:39,319 --> 00:08:40,754 - Yeah. 235 00:08:40,821 --> 00:08:42,956 - And that relationship ended at the end of the year, 236 00:08:43,023 --> 00:08:44,625 and you started talking to Megan, 237 00:08:44,691 --> 00:08:46,860 and she followed you. 238 00:08:46,927 --> 00:08:49,796 Is there a chance that it is your ex-girlfriend 239 00:08:49,863 --> 00:08:50,964 that you're talking-- 240 00:08:51,031 --> 00:08:52,399 - She wouldn't do something that. 241 00:08:52,466 --> 00:08:54,434 She don't have time for that. - That's too diabolical. 242 00:08:54,501 --> 00:08:56,370 - That would--oh, that would be evil, wouldn't it? 243 00:08:56,436 --> 00:08:58,238 - You haven't talked to her on the phone. 244 00:08:58,305 --> 00:08:59,473 Why wouldn't you have talked to her on the phone? 245 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:00,941 Because you know her voice because you 246 00:09:01,008 --> 00:09:02,676 lived with her for six years. 247 00:09:02,743 --> 00:09:05,245 - Yeah, we certainly can't rule that possibility out. 248 00:09:05,312 --> 00:09:08,916 - She sent you pictures? - Yeah, like selfies. 249 00:09:08,982 --> 00:09:10,817 - And you've sent her pictures of yourself. 250 00:09:10,884 --> 00:09:12,486 - Of myself? Yeah. 251 00:09:12,553 --> 00:09:15,055 And my kids, like, them playing and stuff. 252 00:09:15,122 --> 00:09:16,890 - But has she sent pictures of her and her kids? 253 00:09:16,957 --> 00:09:18,559 - No, I haven't seen her kids. 254 00:09:18,625 --> 00:09:20,294 - At all? - No. 255 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,329 - Have you guys made plans to meet up? 256 00:09:22,396 --> 00:09:25,032 - We've made plans to meet up soon and just haven't. 257 00:09:25,098 --> 00:09:26,867 - Like, an hour away is not far. 258 00:09:26,934 --> 00:09:28,101 - Right. 259 00:09:28,168 --> 00:09:30,370 - My son broke one of my TVs, 260 00:09:30,437 --> 00:09:31,939 and she was going to give me a TV. 261 00:09:32,005 --> 00:09:33,373 She actually went and bought it, 262 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,843 and then, like, she was going to come bring me the TV, 263 00:09:35,909 --> 00:09:39,513 And her car broke down, apparently. 264 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:41,982 I've seen the person post on her Facebook wall 265 00:09:42,049 --> 00:09:43,750 asking about the TV they sold her, 266 00:09:43,817 --> 00:09:45,385 so she really did get this TV. 267 00:09:45,452 --> 00:09:47,721 - So all your conversations with her 268 00:09:47,788 --> 00:09:49,456 are through Messenger? - Yeah. 269 00:09:49,523 --> 00:09:51,859 - Can I-- do you mind if we scroll through a little bit? 270 00:09:51,925 --> 00:09:54,661 OK. Meghan Malensky. 271 00:09:54,728 --> 00:09:56,997 Okay, so that sounds like a pretty regular name. 272 00:09:57,064 --> 00:09:58,866 Oh, man. It's a lot. 273 00:09:58,932 --> 00:10:00,934 I don't think I have time to scroll. 274 00:10:01,001 --> 00:10:04,671 Jeez, this is all just in the last 24 hours. 275 00:10:04,738 --> 00:10:07,975 I mean, this is pretty wholesome, sweet conversation. 276 00:10:08,041 --> 00:10:10,344 - Thank you. - You call her baby. 277 00:10:10,410 --> 00:10:13,514 - "OK, baby. Sweet dreams." 278 00:10:13,580 --> 00:10:15,415 ♪♪ ♪♪ 279 00:10:15,482 --> 00:10:17,451 - Here's her profile. 280 00:10:17,518 --> 00:10:20,087 143 friends, 10 mutuals. 281 00:10:20,153 --> 00:10:24,157 - She's cute. - Very cute. 282 00:10:24,224 --> 00:10:26,894 OK, so there's not a lot on her Facebook page. 283 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,429 - Facebook's pretty blank. - All right. 284 00:10:29,496 --> 00:10:30,597 Well, look. 285 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:32,466 There are things about Megan and the story 286 00:10:32,533 --> 00:10:34,768 that seem a little off. - Yeah. 287 00:10:34,835 --> 00:10:35,969 Real off, yeah. 288 00:10:36,036 --> 00:10:37,504 - But it doesn't change the fact 289 00:10:37,571 --> 00:10:40,440 that the person you're talking to seems to be a genuine-- 290 00:10:40,507 --> 00:10:41,775 - Yeah, like she seems like a really nice person. 291 00:10:41,842 --> 00:10:42,910 - Yeah. 292 00:10:42,976 --> 00:10:44,478 - Whoever it is. - Right. 293 00:10:44,545 --> 00:10:46,613 So we can definitely do a little bit more research. 294 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:48,215 - Sounds good to me. 295 00:10:48,282 --> 00:10:51,118 - Any parting words for your friend here, Ty? 296 00:10:51,185 --> 00:10:54,588 - Just wish the best, man. I hope she's real. 297 00:10:54,655 --> 00:10:57,057 - My boy right here. I'll escort you out. 298 00:10:57,124 --> 00:10:59,960 - Nice meeting you. 299 00:11:00,027 --> 00:11:01,962 - We'll see you guys soon. 300 00:11:02,029 --> 00:11:04,331 ♪♪ ♪♪ 301 00:11:04,398 --> 00:11:07,334 You want to say it, or do you want me to say it? 302 00:11:07,401 --> 00:11:09,269 It's the baby mother! 303 00:11:09,336 --> 00:11:10,604 He doesn't have her phone number, 304 00:11:10,671 --> 00:11:11,738 but she has his. 305 00:11:11,805 --> 00:11:13,140 Yeah, because she already had his, 306 00:11:13,207 --> 00:11:15,175 but she can't give him hers because it's her number. 307 00:11:15,242 --> 00:11:16,777 She can't talk to him on the phone 308 00:11:16,844 --> 00:11:18,712 because he would know her voice. 309 00:11:18,779 --> 00:11:20,147 - Yes. I see that. 310 00:11:20,214 --> 00:11:21,481 Could very well be his ex. 311 00:11:21,548 --> 00:11:23,584 - Well, if it is, maybe it could 312 00:11:23,650 --> 00:11:25,052 bring them closer together. 313 00:11:25,118 --> 00:11:28,188 Or maybe it could end up in a huge disaster. 314 00:11:34,328 --> 00:11:36,463 - You know what? I have something for you. 315 00:11:36,530 --> 00:11:38,232 - No, I don't want it. - Oh, you don't? 316 00:11:38,298 --> 00:11:40,267 - What is it? [laughs] 317 00:11:40,334 --> 00:11:41,902 What is it? 318 00:11:41,969 --> 00:11:44,037 - Oh. Wait. 319 00:11:44,104 --> 00:11:46,240 Why are you on it? 320 00:11:46,306 --> 00:11:48,308 It should be a sign. - I know. 321 00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:49,676 Well, he wasn't around. Here. 322 00:11:49,743 --> 00:11:51,845 And I also got here these. - Oh. 323 00:11:51,912 --> 00:11:53,046 Great. 324 00:11:53,113 --> 00:11:55,182 - So you could step on me all day long. 325 00:11:55,249 --> 00:11:57,384 - Yeah, I would love to. - [laughs] 326 00:11:57,451 --> 00:11:59,453 - Oh, thank you. 327 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,189 I would hug you, but, feels-- - Yeah, too much. 328 00:12:02,256 --> 00:12:04,858 - Yeah. [laughs] 329 00:12:04,925 --> 00:12:06,560 - All right. What do we got? 330 00:12:06,627 --> 00:12:10,063 John, 27, got three kids, 331 00:12:10,130 --> 00:12:13,867 recently separated from a long term girlfriend. 332 00:12:13,934 --> 00:12:16,904 Six months later-ish, random message 333 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:21,441 from Meghan who lives in DC, and they hit it off. 334 00:12:21,508 --> 00:12:24,545 They talk about meeting up. Something always comes up. 335 00:12:24,611 --> 00:12:25,712 He then mentions that his television 336 00:12:25,779 --> 00:12:27,447 gets broken by one of his kids. 337 00:12:27,514 --> 00:12:30,450 She said, "Hh, you know what, I'm going to get you a new TV 338 00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:32,319 and I'm going to bring it to you." 339 00:12:32,386 --> 00:12:34,087 No TV. 340 00:12:34,154 --> 00:12:35,489 He's really into her, 341 00:12:35,556 --> 00:12:36,890 but they only communicate 342 00:12:36,957 --> 00:12:39,326 through her weird Facebook page, 343 00:12:39,393 --> 00:12:43,263 and he found a bunch of social media for her 344 00:12:43,330 --> 00:12:46,266 and that person, which may or may not be her, 345 00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:49,002 is, like, a very active streamer and gamer. 346 00:12:49,069 --> 00:12:50,504 - Sounds like a bunch of [bleep] speak. 347 00:12:50,571 --> 00:12:53,307 - Well, you think it's the ex. - It's the ex. 348 00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:54,708 - I mean, the ex is a strong theory. 349 00:12:54,775 --> 00:12:58,245 All right, well, let's see what we find. 350 00:12:58,312 --> 00:13:00,914 Hey guys, so here's what I have for Meghan. 351 00:13:00,981 --> 00:13:03,984 The link to her Facebook page, photos attached. 352 00:13:04,051 --> 00:13:07,855 I mean, these photos, she's clearly a game streamer. 353 00:13:07,921 --> 00:13:09,957 I mean, this girl is definitely like a streamer, 354 00:13:10,023 --> 00:13:12,326 influencer type. And here's the screen-grab. 355 00:13:12,392 --> 00:13:13,827 See up here. 356 00:13:13,894 --> 00:13:15,662 That's how they found her screen name. 357 00:13:15,729 --> 00:13:17,397 [bleep] Queen. 358 00:13:17,464 --> 00:13:18,799 So OK. 359 00:13:18,866 --> 00:13:20,601 Let's go check out this girl's Instagram. 360 00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:23,003 So she's got 8400 followers. 361 00:13:23,070 --> 00:13:24,505 She's a gamer. 362 00:13:24,571 --> 00:13:27,274 - She has multiple photos sitting in the same exact spot. 363 00:13:27,341 --> 00:13:28,742 - She's got a Linktree. 364 00:13:28,809 --> 00:13:30,277 Let's see what's on here. 365 00:13:30,344 --> 00:13:33,013 So she's got Twitter, Instagram, YouTube. 366 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,683 Here's her gaming profile. [bleep] Queen. 367 00:13:36,750 --> 00:13:38,852 Maybe her real name is on here somewhere. 368 00:13:38,919 --> 00:13:39,987 I don't know what this looks like. 369 00:13:40,053 --> 00:13:41,121 Here, About. 370 00:13:41,188 --> 00:13:44,057 Let's see if she has a profile here. 371 00:13:44,124 --> 00:13:47,594 "Welcome to my channel." - "I'm Miranda." 372 00:13:47,661 --> 00:13:50,330 - Oh, my God. - Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. 373 00:13:50,397 --> 00:13:52,432 - "Hi, everyone. I'm Miranda." 374 00:13:52,499 --> 00:13:54,401 - John is not talking to this girl. 375 00:13:54,468 --> 00:13:56,003 It's not her. - It's not. 376 00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:57,304 - Who is it? 377 00:13:57,371 --> 00:13:58,772 Let's go to the Meghan page that John has. 378 00:13:58,839 --> 00:14:01,308 Oh, wait. Check this out. 379 00:14:01,375 --> 00:14:02,943 Melissa Smith. 380 00:14:03,010 --> 00:14:04,511 "It was so nice to meet you. 381 00:14:04,578 --> 00:14:06,146 "Hope you're enjoying the TV. 382 00:14:06,213 --> 00:14:07,548 let me know if you have any issues with it." 383 00:14:07,614 --> 00:14:09,149 All right, let's look at Melissa Smith. 384 00:14:09,216 --> 00:14:11,752 - Also in Washington, DC. - Well, that makes sense. 385 00:14:11,818 --> 00:14:13,587 It seems like she's buttoned up and private. 386 00:14:13,654 --> 00:14:15,122 We can't see her. 387 00:14:15,189 --> 00:14:17,057 - Do you think this one is a fake account too? 388 00:14:17,124 --> 00:14:19,026 - To validate the Meghan account? 389 00:14:19,092 --> 00:14:20,561 Maybe. 390 00:14:20,627 --> 00:14:23,530 I think we just gotta message her, right? 391 00:14:23,597 --> 00:14:24,798 - It could be Meghan. 392 00:14:24,865 --> 00:14:27,935 - Well, then we'll deal with it. 393 00:14:28,001 --> 00:14:33,207 Hey, Melissa I'd love to chat with you. 394 00:14:33,273 --> 00:14:34,541 Thanks. 395 00:14:34,608 --> 00:14:36,777 You want to make waves? - No. 396 00:14:36,844 --> 00:14:38,612 - Got to make a splash. 397 00:14:39,847 --> 00:14:41,548 - [bleep] [phone chimes] 398 00:14:41,615 --> 00:14:43,350 Oh. - We got a response. 399 00:14:43,417 --> 00:14:44,818 - Yes. - "Hi, Nev. 400 00:14:44,885 --> 00:14:46,854 How can I help you?" 401 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,225 Is there any chance you can jump on a quick FaceTime? 402 00:14:51,291 --> 00:14:52,726 - FaceTime? 403 00:14:52,793 --> 00:14:55,863 - Well, this is some friendly lady 404 00:14:55,929 --> 00:14:58,298 who helped her find a new television. 405 00:14:58,365 --> 00:15:01,502 - I can't FaceTime, but I could give you a call. 406 00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:02,936 Fine. 407 00:15:03,003 --> 00:15:06,340 OK, that works. - It's probably the ex. 408 00:15:06,406 --> 00:15:08,108 She's probably trying to get somebody to get on the phone 409 00:15:08,175 --> 00:15:11,211 and act as her. She knows. 410 00:15:11,278 --> 00:15:13,380 [phone ringing] - Oh, New York. 411 00:15:13,447 --> 00:15:15,215 Hello? 412 00:15:20,354 --> 00:15:21,622 - OK. 413 00:15:21,688 --> 00:15:23,690 Well, is she there? 414 00:15:27,461 --> 00:15:30,697 - Right, why couldn't she call me? 415 00:15:32,533 --> 00:15:34,468 - I mean, look, whatever. 416 00:15:34,535 --> 00:15:38,872 Mainly what I was calling about was your wife, 417 00:15:38,939 --> 00:15:40,641 although it could have been you, 418 00:15:40,707 --> 00:15:43,877 recently either sold or gave a television 419 00:15:43,944 --> 00:15:47,948 to a young lady, I think, named Meghan? 420 00:15:56,056 --> 00:15:57,958 - She looked like her picture? 421 00:15:58,025 --> 00:15:59,793 No, she [bleep] didn't. 422 00:15:59,860 --> 00:16:02,596 - So just bear with me for a second 423 00:16:02,663 --> 00:16:04,665 because the weird thing for us 424 00:16:04,731 --> 00:16:08,468 is that we found the girl in the pictures, 425 00:16:08,535 --> 00:16:11,038 and her name is Miranda. 426 00:16:17,544 --> 00:16:19,980 - What was your name? I'm sorry, I forgot to ask you. 427 00:16:21,882 --> 00:16:25,185 - Got it. All right, thanks Phil. 428 00:16:26,086 --> 00:16:27,387 - Bye. - Phil? 429 00:16:27,454 --> 00:16:29,122 Short for Phil of [bleep]. 430 00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:30,791 - Is that Meghan? 431 00:16:30,858 --> 00:16:33,393 If Phil made this account 432 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:37,464 just to post on her page 433 00:16:37,531 --> 00:16:40,200 and make it seem like she really actually got the TV, 434 00:16:40,267 --> 00:16:44,371 that means he's Melissa, and he's also likely Meghan. 435 00:16:44,438 --> 00:16:45,939 - I don't think he is. 436 00:16:46,006 --> 00:16:49,209 Somebody, the ex in my opinion, 437 00:16:49,276 --> 00:16:51,011 got somebody to answer the phone-- 438 00:16:51,078 --> 00:16:54,848 - Oh, so you think Melissa is run by the ex? 439 00:16:54,915 --> 00:16:57,518 And that she was like "Oh, [bleep]. 440 00:16:57,584 --> 00:16:58,719 I need someone to call." 441 00:16:58,785 --> 00:17:00,487 And somehow, came up with the idea 442 00:17:00,554 --> 00:17:03,056 of, like, only person I can get to help me right now is a guy. 443 00:17:03,123 --> 00:17:04,791 - Yeah, because she might have known 444 00:17:04,858 --> 00:17:06,326 that we were going to record the voice. 445 00:17:06,393 --> 00:17:08,529 - Whether or not the ex is involved, 446 00:17:08,595 --> 00:17:10,998 both these profiles are probably the same. 447 00:17:11,064 --> 00:17:13,100 Run by the same fake person, and either whoever 448 00:17:13,166 --> 00:17:14,368 that guy is that we just spoke to 449 00:17:14,434 --> 00:17:16,003 who didn't want to tell us his name, 450 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:19,239 or he's trying to cover for whoever John is talking to. 451 00:17:19,306 --> 00:17:22,009 We already know Meghan's lying. 452 00:17:22,075 --> 00:17:25,312 How big is the lie? 453 00:17:31,084 --> 00:17:34,488 - So this morning, I'm leaning to it being Phil. 454 00:17:34,555 --> 00:17:36,256 Because why wouldn't Meghan get on the phone with him, 455 00:17:36,323 --> 00:17:37,891 unless Meghan is the ex. 456 00:17:37,958 --> 00:17:40,160 - But if it's the ex, you know what I'm going to say. 457 00:17:40,227 --> 00:17:43,630 I told you so. - All right. 458 00:17:43,697 --> 00:17:46,433 Here it is. 459 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:47,901 [soft dramatic music] 460 00:17:47,968 --> 00:17:49,670 - Why would you put me in the bush? 461 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:52,172 ♪♪ ♪♪ 462 00:17:52,239 --> 00:17:55,375 [knocks] 463 00:17:55,442 --> 00:17:57,945 - Hey, guys. - Hey. 464 00:17:58,011 --> 00:17:59,546 - What's going on? - Curls popping today, wow. 465 00:17:59,613 --> 00:18:01,982 Looking good. - Thank you. 466 00:18:02,049 --> 00:18:03,417 What's up? 467 00:18:03,483 --> 00:18:05,018 ♪♪ ♪♪ 468 00:18:05,085 --> 00:18:06,687 Waiting to see what y'all got for me, I guess. 469 00:18:06,753 --> 00:18:08,422 - Have you talked to her at all-- 470 00:18:08,488 --> 00:18:10,290 - Yeah, yeah, I talked to her today. 471 00:18:10,357 --> 00:18:13,093 - Well, look. We did find some stuff. 472 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,494 We spoke to some people. 473 00:18:14,561 --> 00:18:16,964 We've got some thoughts and ideas. 474 00:18:17,030 --> 00:18:18,699 If you want to try and swing over a little bit? 475 00:18:18,765 --> 00:18:22,569 All right, so because you had a photo 476 00:18:22,636 --> 00:18:26,240 that she had posted with the Instagram account, 477 00:18:26,306 --> 00:18:28,375 we went there just to check it out. 478 00:18:28,442 --> 00:18:29,877 It doesn't have her name on here. 479 00:18:29,943 --> 00:18:32,813 We went to her Linktree and we found a bunch of stuff, 480 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,282 including this game streaming site. 481 00:18:35,349 --> 00:18:39,386 My first feeling was she's presenting herself every day. 482 00:18:39,453 --> 00:18:41,889 - Every day, yeah. - Live. 483 00:18:41,955 --> 00:18:43,524 Where are her kids? 484 00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:45,626 If she had kids, they'd be on her page. 485 00:18:45,692 --> 00:18:46,894 - Yeah. 486 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,829 - I mean, maybe not her streaming page, 487 00:18:48,896 --> 00:18:51,164 but somewhere on her social media, right? 488 00:18:51,231 --> 00:18:52,699 - Yeah, I don't know. 489 00:18:52,766 --> 00:18:55,068 Part of me still wants it to be her, so... 490 00:18:55,135 --> 00:18:56,570 - Of course. - Yeah. 491 00:18:56,637 --> 00:18:58,138 - And look, there's actually if you scroll down, 492 00:18:58,205 --> 00:18:59,673 like an about me. 493 00:18:59,740 --> 00:19:01,642 And it says "Welcome to my channel. 494 00:19:01,708 --> 00:19:04,545 I'm Miranda." - Who the [bleep] is Miranda? 495 00:19:04,611 --> 00:19:06,480 - This is a girl named Miranda. 496 00:19:06,547 --> 00:19:09,049 Doesn't have kids and might not be 27, 497 00:19:09,116 --> 00:19:10,884 might be a little younger. 498 00:19:10,951 --> 00:19:12,219 - That's pretty big. 499 00:19:12,286 --> 00:19:14,721 I don't know. 500 00:19:14,788 --> 00:19:16,823 If that's not really her, man, I don't-- 501 00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:19,259 ♪♪ ♪♪ 502 00:19:19,326 --> 00:19:21,962 That's crazy. 503 00:19:22,029 --> 00:19:24,031 - If it's not her and she's lying about that, 504 00:19:24,097 --> 00:19:25,732 what else is she lying about? 505 00:19:25,799 --> 00:19:30,070 - So with this in mind, we went to her Facebook page. 506 00:19:30,137 --> 00:19:33,140 We went back to the Facebook page she gave you. 507 00:19:33,207 --> 00:19:36,610 We scrolled down the page, and we found the TV post 508 00:19:36,677 --> 00:19:38,312 that you mentioned seeing on her wall. 509 00:19:38,378 --> 00:19:40,247 So we went to the page for the girl 510 00:19:40,314 --> 00:19:41,748 she bought it from, Melissa. 511 00:19:41,815 --> 00:19:43,483 Messaged her. 512 00:19:43,550 --> 00:19:45,185 "Hey, is there any chance you can jump on a FaceTime?" 513 00:19:45,252 --> 00:19:48,222 "I can't FaceTime, but I can give you a call." 514 00:19:48,288 --> 00:19:49,456 Phone rings. 515 00:19:49,523 --> 00:19:51,892 It's a guy. 516 00:19:51,959 --> 00:19:53,660 He's like, "Oh, yeah, I'm Melissa's husband." 517 00:19:53,727 --> 00:19:57,064 And he's like "Well, Melissa and I share a Facebook page. 518 00:19:57,130 --> 00:19:58,732 "She's at work right now, 519 00:19:58,799 --> 00:19:59,967 so I just thought I'd give you a call." 520 00:20:00,033 --> 00:20:02,870 I was like "OK, weird," right? - Yeah. 521 00:20:02,936 --> 00:20:05,239 - But OK, sure. 522 00:20:05,305 --> 00:20:07,708 So I said, "OK, well, look, we're calling about this TV 523 00:20:07,774 --> 00:20:09,843 that you guys sold to this girl, Meghan." 524 00:20:09,910 --> 00:20:12,713 Anyway, we recorded the call so we could play his voice 525 00:20:12,779 --> 00:20:14,815 for you just on the off chance that you 526 00:20:14,882 --> 00:20:17,284 recognize this guy's voice. - That's smart. 527 00:20:17,351 --> 00:20:19,186 ♪♪ ♪♪ 528 00:20:19,253 --> 00:20:21,655 - She was super sweet. 529 00:20:21,722 --> 00:20:24,291 She came, looked just like her Facebook picture, 530 00:20:24,358 --> 00:20:25,692 and left. 531 00:20:25,759 --> 00:20:28,529 - Looked just like her Facebook picture and left. 532 00:20:28,595 --> 00:20:30,497 You know, like, weird that he would add that in. 533 00:20:30,564 --> 00:20:32,199 - Yeah, you didn't ask that at all. 534 00:20:32,266 --> 00:20:33,867 He just threw it out there. - Right. 535 00:20:33,934 --> 00:20:36,069 - It's weird. - Yeah, it is weird. 536 00:20:36,136 --> 00:20:39,406 - Anyway, so that raises a lot of red flags and suspicion 537 00:20:39,473 --> 00:20:41,475 around the Melissa page. 538 00:20:41,542 --> 00:20:43,744 And is it Phil, the guy that we talked to, 539 00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:45,812 or whoever it is that's running the Melissa page-- 540 00:20:45,879 --> 00:20:47,648 who may also be the same person 541 00:20:47,714 --> 00:20:48,982 who's running the Meghan page-- 542 00:20:49,049 --> 00:20:51,018 thought, "Oh, [bleep]. 543 00:20:51,084 --> 00:20:53,420 "I can't call them right now because my voice 544 00:20:53,487 --> 00:20:54,788 is recognizable." 545 00:20:54,855 --> 00:20:57,891 So it kind of brings us back to Kamie's 546 00:20:57,958 --> 00:21:01,762 initial suspicion, which is that maybe it's 547 00:21:01,828 --> 00:21:04,364 your recent ex-girlfriend. 548 00:21:04,431 --> 00:21:05,799 And knew that if she got on the phone 549 00:21:05,866 --> 00:21:08,435 with us, that we might then play her voice for you, 550 00:21:08,502 --> 00:21:09,803 in which case, you'd say, "Oh, my God, 551 00:21:09,870 --> 00:21:12,072 that's my ex-girlfriend." - Yeah. 552 00:21:12,139 --> 00:21:15,108 That'd be a big jump, but then maybe. 553 00:21:15,175 --> 00:21:17,044 - Are you still friends with her on your Facebook? 554 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:18,512 - My ex? - Yeah. 555 00:21:18,579 --> 00:21:20,547 - No, no she's not on Facebook. 556 00:21:20,614 --> 00:21:22,516 - Now I'm not so sure that it's your ex, 557 00:21:22,583 --> 00:21:24,184 but it's a possibility. 558 00:21:24,251 --> 00:21:26,153 It could also be a guy, 559 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:28,355 which is why he hasn't talked to you on the phone. 560 00:21:28,422 --> 00:21:30,057 Question is, what do we do now? 561 00:21:30,123 --> 00:21:33,493 Should we message her now on your behalf? 562 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,096 - Yeah. - So here she is. 563 00:21:36,163 --> 00:21:37,931 Let's send her a message. 564 00:21:37,998 --> 00:21:39,333 Hey, Meghan. 565 00:21:39,399 --> 00:21:45,372 This is Nev from the show "Catfish." 566 00:21:45,439 --> 00:21:49,276 We are in West Virginia with John. 567 00:21:49,343 --> 00:21:50,711 As you know, 568 00:21:50,777 --> 00:21:54,648 he has strong feelings for you. 569 00:21:54,715 --> 00:21:57,784 - Right on. Whatever gets her out there. 570 00:21:57,851 --> 00:21:59,887 - So I think Meghan's got everything she needs 571 00:21:59,953 --> 00:22:01,655 to understand that we're not messing around. 572 00:22:01,722 --> 00:22:04,124 This is her best and last chance. 573 00:22:04,191 --> 00:22:06,026 You let us know if you hear anything. 574 00:22:06,093 --> 00:22:07,928 We'll let you know if we hear anything. 575 00:22:07,995 --> 00:22:12,533 Fingers crossed she responds and agrees to meet us. 576 00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:14,635 - All right. 577 00:22:16,904 --> 00:22:18,805 [phone ringing] Oh, John's calling me. 578 00:22:21,008 --> 00:22:21,975 John. 579 00:22:23,644 --> 00:22:24,978 - What's up, buddy? 580 00:22:29,583 --> 00:22:30,918 - What do they say? 581 00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:57,845 - That's crazy. 582 00:22:57,911 --> 00:23:00,047 I mean, let's all regroup in the morning. 583 00:23:00,113 --> 00:23:02,249 Then we'll figure it out. 584 00:23:04,852 --> 00:23:06,954 - All right, John. Goodnight, man. 585 00:23:08,488 --> 00:23:10,090 - Bye. 586 00:23:16,763 --> 00:23:20,000 - Good morning. - How you doing, Kamie? 587 00:23:20,067 --> 00:23:22,903 Breakfast Club. - Wow, what a spread. 588 00:23:22,970 --> 00:23:26,406 [laughs] - All right. 589 00:23:26,473 --> 00:23:29,009 Give us the details of what happened last night. 590 00:23:29,076 --> 00:23:31,078 - So I get these random text messages 591 00:23:31,144 --> 00:23:32,779 from two different numbers. 592 00:23:32,846 --> 00:23:34,581 One was a person named Christine. 593 00:23:34,648 --> 00:23:36,917 - "Hey John, my name is Christine. 594 00:23:36,984 --> 00:23:38,619 "I'm a friend of Meghan's. 595 00:23:38,685 --> 00:23:41,922 "I think you guys have an undeniable connection, 596 00:23:41,989 --> 00:23:44,224 "and I'm sure that if you call off 597 00:23:44,291 --> 00:23:47,794 "'Catfish' and give her more time, 598 00:23:47,861 --> 00:23:49,663 she will meet you on her own." 599 00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:52,232 And then another one from a 571 number. 600 00:23:52,299 --> 00:23:53,800 "Hi John, my name is Doris. 601 00:23:53,867 --> 00:23:55,569 I'm a friend--" this is the exact same message. 602 00:23:55,636 --> 00:23:56,937 - Doris. - "I'm a friend of Meghan's." 603 00:23:57,004 --> 00:23:58,539 Like, it starts the exact same way. 604 00:23:58,605 --> 00:24:00,307 "She told me about 'Catfish' reaching out 605 00:24:00,374 --> 00:24:02,409 and she's a little freaked out." 606 00:24:02,476 --> 00:24:04,645 - It's Meghan. - Well, right. 607 00:24:04,711 --> 00:24:05,946 - Yeah, it's her. 608 00:24:06,013 --> 00:24:10,150 - So should we look up those numbers, 609 00:24:10,217 --> 00:24:12,085 just on the off chance that one of them 610 00:24:12,152 --> 00:24:14,254 might actually be hers? - Sure. 611 00:24:14,321 --> 00:24:16,590 Let's just see. All right, Doris number first. 612 00:24:16,657 --> 00:24:19,726 - OK it's 571-- 613 00:24:19,793 --> 00:24:23,997 - 571 [bleep]. Nothing. 614 00:24:24,064 --> 00:24:25,332 What was the other number? 615 00:24:25,399 --> 00:24:27,134 - Christine. - All right. 616 00:24:27,201 --> 00:24:29,436 - 815 [bleep]. 617 00:24:29,503 --> 00:24:33,540 - Ooh, Melissa. What if it is Melissa? 618 00:24:33,607 --> 00:24:36,276 - Melissa Smith? - Smith, yeah. 619 00:24:36,343 --> 00:24:38,412 Maybe her real name is Melissa [bleep]. 620 00:24:38,478 --> 00:24:40,614 - So it's just Melissa this whole time? 621 00:24:40,681 --> 00:24:42,583 - Should we call Christine since it looks like 622 00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:45,953 it's actually a number and-- - Might as well. 623 00:24:46,019 --> 00:24:49,256 [line trilling] 624 00:24:49,323 --> 00:24:50,991 What's the tea, Christine? 625 00:24:51,058 --> 00:24:53,293 That's what you have to say. 626 00:24:56,430 --> 00:24:58,732 - Oh. - Hang up. 627 00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:00,968 - Wait, Melissa? - Yes. 628 00:25:01,034 --> 00:25:05,038 - They said Melissa [bleep]. - Same last name, the audacity. 629 00:25:05,105 --> 00:25:07,040 The gall. - I was right. 630 00:25:07,107 --> 00:25:09,042 - The gall. - I was right. 631 00:25:09,109 --> 00:25:10,511 - Who is Melissa? 632 00:25:10,577 --> 00:25:12,713 - I don't know Melissa, that's the thing. 633 00:25:12,779 --> 00:25:15,315 - Well, you don't know Melissa, but she goes by Meghan. 634 00:25:15,382 --> 00:25:17,217 And that-- whoever we talked to-- 635 00:25:17,284 --> 00:25:18,619 Phil guy was probably some friend 636 00:25:18,685 --> 00:25:19,953 who was trying to cover for her. 637 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:21,455 [soft dramatic music] 638 00:25:21,522 --> 00:25:24,291 - What do we do? - Text Melissa. 639 00:25:24,358 --> 00:25:26,660 - Christine. - Right. 640 00:25:26,727 --> 00:25:29,363 Hey, Melissa, 641 00:25:29,429 --> 00:25:33,200 I got your number from John 642 00:25:33,267 --> 00:25:36,537 regarding your "friend." 643 00:25:36,603 --> 00:25:38,939 I'm going to put it in quotes-- "Meghan". 644 00:25:39,006 --> 00:25:42,876 - Spicy. - Would love to chat. 645 00:25:42,943 --> 00:25:44,578 ♪♪ ♪♪ 646 00:25:44,645 --> 00:25:47,681 - How are you feeling, John? What are you thinking? 647 00:25:47,748 --> 00:25:50,384 - Lost, confused, used. 648 00:25:50,450 --> 00:25:52,419 Like this person just took advantage of me 649 00:25:52,486 --> 00:25:54,454 and just talked to me for months for what reason, 650 00:25:54,521 --> 00:25:59,259 I have no idea. - Oh, response from Melissa. 651 00:25:59,326 --> 00:26:02,329 - OK, I'll try to talk to Meghan 652 00:26:02,396 --> 00:26:04,164 and convince her to meet. 653 00:26:04,231 --> 00:26:06,433 Come to D. C., and I'll send you 654 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:08,335 an address as soon as-- it's her. 655 00:26:08,402 --> 00:26:11,038 - Yeah, that's her. - It's her. 656 00:26:11,104 --> 00:26:14,775 - No--didn't even blink an eye at me calling her Melissa. 657 00:26:14,842 --> 00:26:16,910 Right. OK. 658 00:26:16,977 --> 00:26:18,045 Great. 659 00:26:18,111 --> 00:26:21,815 We should be in D. C. area 660 00:26:21,882 --> 00:26:23,650 around noon. 661 00:26:25,552 --> 00:26:27,621 - So does this mean I have to throw my baby mama theory out? 662 00:26:27,688 --> 00:26:31,959 - Unless she's sending us to D. C. to get stood up. 663 00:26:32,025 --> 00:26:33,794 - Could be. 664 00:26:33,861 --> 00:26:36,396 - All right, so let's pack up and go. 665 00:26:36,463 --> 00:26:38,765 [upbeat music] 666 00:26:38,832 --> 00:26:39,867 - Thank you. 667 00:26:39,933 --> 00:26:42,402 ♪♪ ♪♪ 668 00:26:42,469 --> 00:26:44,605 - All right. Everyone ready? 669 00:26:44,671 --> 00:26:45,906 Strapped in? 670 00:26:45,973 --> 00:26:47,741 - We are now entering our initial descent 671 00:26:47,808 --> 00:26:50,310 into Washington, DC. 672 00:26:50,377 --> 00:26:52,346 - ♪♪ She's a fine little lover ♪♪ 673 00:26:52,412 --> 00:26:54,581 - All right, let's head East. - This is crazy. 674 00:26:54,648 --> 00:26:57,951 - ♪♪ Somebody tell me what I'm missing ♪♪ 675 00:26:58,018 --> 00:26:59,019 ♪♪ She sees the ♪♪ 676 00:26:59,086 --> 00:27:01,488 [phone chimes] - An address. 677 00:27:01,555 --> 00:27:03,857 - OK. - Arlington. 678 00:27:03,924 --> 00:27:05,292 - That's right outside D. C. - Yeah, just outside. 679 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,860 All right. 680 00:27:06,927 --> 00:27:08,195 You don't know anyone that lives in Arlington, do you? 681 00:27:08,262 --> 00:27:09,396 - No, no I don't. 682 00:27:09,463 --> 00:27:11,965 - ♪♪ Love me like James Bond ♪♪ 683 00:27:12,032 --> 00:27:14,134 ♪♪ Ooh, ooh ♪♪ 684 00:27:14,201 --> 00:27:15,536 ♪♪ Ooh ♪♪ 685 00:27:15,602 --> 00:27:17,337 [soft dramatic music] 686 00:27:17,404 --> 00:27:21,141 - Well, this is the street, I think. 687 00:27:21,208 --> 00:27:23,710 Yeah, that's it right there. 688 00:27:23,777 --> 00:27:26,213 - All the windows open, waiting for you to peek inside. 689 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,148 - Oh, a TV. - What? 690 00:27:28,215 --> 00:27:30,184 - The TV. - Where? 691 00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:32,753 - She left it in front. - No. 692 00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:35,255 There's a note on the TV. - Get the [bleep] out. 693 00:27:35,322 --> 00:27:37,357 I got to see this note. - Let's park. 694 00:27:38,358 --> 00:27:40,260 [seatbelt clicks] 695 00:27:40,327 --> 00:27:47,434 ♪♪ ♪♪ 696 00:27:48,702 --> 00:27:50,037 - Does it say anything inside? 697 00:27:50,103 --> 00:27:53,473 - No, it just says, "I'm sorry. Don't hate me." 698 00:27:53,540 --> 00:27:55,776 - What-- is this just a random address? 699 00:27:55,843 --> 00:27:58,011 - It's looking like it. - Somebody lives here. 700 00:27:58,078 --> 00:27:59,246 - We should definitely knock. 701 00:27:59,313 --> 00:28:04,852 ♪♪ ♪♪ 702 00:28:04,918 --> 00:28:06,053 ♪♪ ♪♪ 703 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,622 There are lights on. 704 00:28:08,689 --> 00:28:11,825 [knocks] 705 00:28:11,892 --> 00:28:17,764 ♪♪ ♪♪ 706 00:28:17,831 --> 00:28:19,833 - I'm more shocked that they actually left the TV. 707 00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:21,869 - I'm really blown about seeing this TV 708 00:28:21,935 --> 00:28:24,605 when we pulled up, like it's-- - Ooh, ooh. 709 00:28:31,011 --> 00:28:33,180 - I'm more shocked that they actually left the TV. 710 00:28:33,247 --> 00:28:35,082 - I'm really blown about seeing this TV 711 00:28:35,148 --> 00:28:36,950 when we pulled up. Like, it's crazy. 712 00:28:37,017 --> 00:28:40,420 - Ooh, ooh. - Hi. 713 00:28:40,487 --> 00:28:43,090 - Hi. - Hi. 714 00:28:43,156 --> 00:28:44,258 - Hi. 715 00:28:44,324 --> 00:28:45,559 - Nev. 716 00:28:45,626 --> 00:28:47,060 - Hi, Doris. - Doris. 717 00:28:47,127 --> 00:28:48,762 All right, nice to meet you. 718 00:28:48,829 --> 00:28:51,331 - So you're not Melissa or Meghan? 719 00:28:51,398 --> 00:28:55,269 - Are you who we've been communicating with? 720 00:28:55,335 --> 00:28:56,670 Are you the person that's been talking 721 00:28:56,737 --> 00:28:59,673 to John this whole time? - Yeah. 722 00:28:59,740 --> 00:29:01,375 [soft dramatic music] 723 00:29:01,441 --> 00:29:03,343 - We also obviously talked to some guy. 724 00:29:03,410 --> 00:29:05,345 - Yeah, that's a friend of mine, Phil. 725 00:29:05,412 --> 00:29:07,381 - Okay, his name is Phil? - Yeah. 726 00:29:07,447 --> 00:29:09,816 I just kind of needed someone to help me out, 727 00:29:09,883 --> 00:29:12,019 you know, to kind of get in the middle of it. 728 00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:15,489 - OK, before we get into questions and kind of clear-- 729 00:29:15,556 --> 00:29:17,925 why don't you just kind of let us know 730 00:29:17,991 --> 00:29:19,893 what's up from your side of things so that 731 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,996 we can better understand how this all went down? 732 00:29:23,063 --> 00:29:28,035 - Well, I've been in a, like, very vulnerable state. 733 00:29:28,101 --> 00:29:30,504 I've been [bleep] over a lot in a lot of relationships, 734 00:29:30,571 --> 00:29:34,942 so creating the Meghan account has caused me 735 00:29:35,008 --> 00:29:37,811 to let my wall down a little bit. 736 00:29:37,878 --> 00:29:39,413 Everything that I have told him, though, 737 00:29:39,479 --> 00:29:42,416 has been true, other than the picture, of course. 738 00:29:42,482 --> 00:29:46,553 Picture is definitely not me. - Okay, and kids? 739 00:29:46,620 --> 00:29:48,488 - I do have kids. - Two kids. 740 00:29:48,555 --> 00:29:50,858 - I do, I have two boys, yeah. - OK, so that's all true. 741 00:29:50,924 --> 00:29:52,793 - That's all true. 742 00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:54,895 - You're not 20-- - I'm not 27. 743 00:29:54,962 --> 00:29:56,496 - How old are you? 744 00:29:56,563 --> 00:29:59,399 - I don't-- I really don't want to say that because-- 745 00:29:59,466 --> 00:30:02,035 - I wouldn't ask ever except you lied about your age. 746 00:30:02,102 --> 00:30:03,270 - Right. 747 00:30:03,337 --> 00:30:05,105 - And I just feel like in this context, 748 00:30:05,172 --> 00:30:07,975 you kind of have to confess what your actual age is. 749 00:30:08,041 --> 00:30:10,043 - Oh, my goodness. - Because you lied. 750 00:30:10,110 --> 00:30:11,512 - I can't-- I really am not comfortable 751 00:30:11,578 --> 00:30:12,946 sharing my age right now. 752 00:30:13,013 --> 00:30:14,615 John, I will definitely tell you my age 753 00:30:14,681 --> 00:30:15,749 when I'm comfortable. 754 00:30:15,816 --> 00:30:17,317 - What's the problem? I mean-- 755 00:30:17,384 --> 00:30:21,522 - I have a lot of emotional damage from my exes. 756 00:30:21,588 --> 00:30:23,257 And you could tell how much [bleep] he had went through, 757 00:30:23,323 --> 00:30:24,858 and I went through a lot of [bleep] too. 758 00:30:24,925 --> 00:30:28,695 You know, so I guess 759 00:30:28,762 --> 00:30:30,964 I also wanted to see, you know, 760 00:30:31,031 --> 00:30:33,000 if I looked like somebody else, 761 00:30:33,066 --> 00:30:35,836 maybe thinner, you know, a little younger, 762 00:30:35,903 --> 00:30:38,505 see what the reaction was going to be. 763 00:30:38,572 --> 00:30:40,073 Oh, my God I'm going to cry. 764 00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:43,577 Because, like, I'm really sorry. 765 00:30:43,644 --> 00:30:45,812 It was like the response was different for me. 766 00:30:45,879 --> 00:30:48,749 You know. 767 00:30:48,815 --> 00:30:50,350 Sorry, I'm breaking down. 768 00:30:50,417 --> 00:30:53,053 - But why didn't you talk to him on the phone? 769 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,456 - I think when I heard a little bit about him 770 00:30:56,523 --> 00:30:58,225 investigating into Meghan, 771 00:30:58,292 --> 00:31:00,494 I knew her voice was going to be different. 772 00:31:00,561 --> 00:31:01,662 You know? 773 00:31:01,728 --> 00:31:03,997 ♪♪ ♪♪ 774 00:31:04,064 --> 00:31:06,200 - And the text messages that John got 775 00:31:06,266 --> 00:31:08,435 last night from Doris? 776 00:31:08,502 --> 00:31:10,237 - Yes, that was me. - Oh, that was you. 777 00:31:10,304 --> 00:31:12,439 And then the other one? - Christine. 778 00:31:12,506 --> 00:31:14,541 - That's my friend, Melissa. - Right. 779 00:31:14,608 --> 00:31:16,343 - Oh, that's your friend. - A really good friend of mine. 780 00:31:16,410 --> 00:31:17,644 - She texted for you. - Yeah. 781 00:31:17,711 --> 00:31:20,347 - OK so that's Melissa who posted on your wall. 782 00:31:20,414 --> 00:31:22,482 You really been lying to me for three months, 783 00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:25,586 and I've never been lied to that long. 784 00:31:25,652 --> 00:31:27,588 I'm just blown right now. 785 00:31:27,654 --> 00:31:29,189 Like, if you know that I've been through [bleep], 786 00:31:29,256 --> 00:31:30,891 you shouldn't just kept on lying to me. 787 00:31:30,958 --> 00:31:32,125 - Everything I have told you is true, 788 00:31:32,192 --> 00:31:33,594 other than the physicality. 789 00:31:33,660 --> 00:31:34,995 - Everything else you've told me is true? 790 00:31:35,062 --> 00:31:37,264 - Yeah, other than the physicality of it. 791 00:31:39,132 --> 00:31:40,334 - But we know that the Meghan page is fake. 792 00:31:41,835 --> 00:31:44,905 - But you can't--that's kind of manipulative to say. 793 00:31:44,972 --> 00:31:48,008 Because you did lie to him, so you can't say, 794 00:31:48,075 --> 00:31:49,576 "I hope that you're not that shallow 795 00:31:49,643 --> 00:31:51,044 because we have an emotional connection." 796 00:31:51,111 --> 00:31:52,779 That's going to tug on his heartstrings 797 00:31:52,846 --> 00:31:54,882 and make him think that he now has to have a relationship. 798 00:31:54,948 --> 00:31:57,150 - No, no, not at all. No. 799 00:31:57,217 --> 00:31:58,485 - It's not shallow for somebody to want somebody 800 00:31:58,552 --> 00:32:00,053 to tell them the truth. - Telling the truth. 801 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,257 - You know, I just-- 802 00:32:03,323 --> 00:32:04,925 my intention was not to hurt you. 803 00:32:04,992 --> 00:32:06,393 You know what I mean? 804 00:32:06,460 --> 00:32:08,462 I'm probably getting hurt more because I feel so bad, 805 00:32:08,529 --> 00:32:11,598 you know? - Do you need a minute? 806 00:32:11,665 --> 00:32:13,100 - Yeah. 807 00:32:13,166 --> 00:32:16,870 - Should we go in the car or something? 808 00:32:16,937 --> 00:32:22,342 ♪♪ ♪♪ 809 00:32:22,409 --> 00:32:24,578 - Um... - I feel bad. 810 00:32:24,645 --> 00:32:27,581 ♪♪ ♪♪ 811 00:32:27,648 --> 00:32:29,449 I mean, I hope he can-- he handles it, 812 00:32:29,516 --> 00:32:30,651 you know, all right. 813 00:32:30,717 --> 00:32:32,452 I mean, that's why I didn't want to, 814 00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:35,389 like, keep continuing this. You know? 815 00:32:35,455 --> 00:32:37,758 God, I'm going to keep crying. 816 00:32:37,824 --> 00:32:40,060 [chuckles] [sighs] 817 00:32:40,127 --> 00:32:42,729 That wasn't my plan to, you know-- 818 00:32:42,796 --> 00:32:45,098 the waterworks to come. 819 00:32:45,165 --> 00:32:48,068 - I have yet to see any water. 820 00:32:48,135 --> 00:32:50,904 - Yeah, but they're in there. 821 00:32:50,971 --> 00:32:52,606 - This [bleep] is crazy. 822 00:32:52,673 --> 00:32:54,908 I already came expecting the catfish. 823 00:32:54,975 --> 00:32:57,911 I don't know. She seems really nice. 824 00:32:57,978 --> 00:32:59,780 She lied. I can't do it. 825 00:32:59,847 --> 00:33:01,114 She is fun to talk to. 826 00:33:01,181 --> 00:33:02,049 I maybe just talk to her sometimes, 827 00:33:02,115 --> 00:33:04,017 I'm just thinking about it. 828 00:33:04,084 --> 00:33:05,152 - Do you want to know what I think? 829 00:33:05,219 --> 00:33:06,119 - Maybe I'm just too nice of a guy. 830 00:33:06,186 --> 00:33:08,589 You mean just cut my losses? 831 00:33:08,655 --> 00:33:10,924 - You are a very nice guy, very good guy. 832 00:33:10,991 --> 00:33:12,359 She knows that. 833 00:33:12,426 --> 00:33:16,129 The things that she's saying are very manipulative. 834 00:33:16,196 --> 00:33:18,332 Saying, you know, "You're probably hurt, 835 00:33:18,398 --> 00:33:20,667 but I'm probably hurt more." How can you say that? 836 00:33:20,734 --> 00:33:22,269 - Yeah. 837 00:33:22,336 --> 00:33:24,238 - To say, "Well, you know, everything I've told you 838 00:33:24,304 --> 00:33:25,672 "is true, except for the pictures. 839 00:33:25,739 --> 00:33:28,242 If you're shallow, then"-- - If I'm shallow, yeah. 840 00:33:28,308 --> 00:33:29,910 - It has nothing to do with you. 841 00:33:29,977 --> 00:33:32,112 - I'm glad you got that. It's not true. 842 00:33:32,179 --> 00:33:34,481 - Am I being shallow? - No. 843 00:33:34,548 --> 00:33:37,217 I understand that she might be an emotional person, 844 00:33:37,284 --> 00:33:39,152 but all those emotions 845 00:33:39,219 --> 00:33:41,555 didn't actually result in any tears that I saw. 846 00:33:41,622 --> 00:33:43,624 - Yeah, no. 847 00:33:43,690 --> 00:33:46,159 - But I mean, we had a connection. 848 00:33:46,226 --> 00:33:49,263 Everything was just-- was so real. 849 00:33:49,329 --> 00:33:52,266 - You did actually imagine yourself 850 00:33:52,332 --> 00:33:53,934 in a relationship with him? 851 00:33:54,001 --> 00:33:55,936 - Yeah, we have so much in common. 852 00:33:56,003 --> 00:33:57,404 It's crazy. 853 00:33:57,471 --> 00:34:00,140 Do I expect him to want to date me, you know, 854 00:34:00,207 --> 00:34:01,808 just meeting me for the first time right now? 855 00:34:01,875 --> 00:34:03,677 I don't know. 856 00:34:03,744 --> 00:34:06,647 - I don't want for you to feel like you have to 857 00:34:06,713 --> 00:34:09,583 be friendly to her just because she seems friendly 858 00:34:09,650 --> 00:34:12,719 because there are still things about her that seem off to me. 859 00:34:12,786 --> 00:34:15,155 - She might be a good person sometimes, 860 00:34:15,222 --> 00:34:16,356 but she's been lying so far. 861 00:34:16,423 --> 00:34:18,025 So what else she'd been lying about? 862 00:34:18,091 --> 00:34:21,595 - I honestly thought he would have been like, you know, 863 00:34:21,662 --> 00:34:24,598 "If everything that you were saying was true, 864 00:34:24,665 --> 00:34:27,067 "other than the profile pic, right, 865 00:34:27,134 --> 00:34:29,770 "I am willing to either give this a shot 866 00:34:29,837 --> 00:34:32,406 or at least continue talking and seeing where it goes." 867 00:34:32,472 --> 00:34:35,442 I really don't know right now myself. 868 00:34:35,509 --> 00:34:38,078 I'm willing-- like, am I open to it? 869 00:34:38,145 --> 00:34:41,315 Yes. Totally open to it though. 870 00:34:41,381 --> 00:34:43,951 - But you know that's not up to you, right? 871 00:34:44,017 --> 00:34:46,353 ♪♪ ♪♪ 872 00:34:52,125 --> 00:34:54,928 How are you feeling now that you've sort of-- 873 00:34:54,995 --> 00:34:58,198 - I don't know. I want to know how he feels. 874 00:34:58,265 --> 00:35:02,002 Like, honestly, I'm more concerned about him. 875 00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:03,637 - Because she's been lying to me 876 00:35:03,704 --> 00:35:05,038 and been trying to manipulate me 877 00:35:05,105 --> 00:35:06,306 from here and make me feel sorry for her. 878 00:35:06,373 --> 00:35:08,876 For what reason? - At least you cut it here. 879 00:35:08,942 --> 00:35:10,344 - Yeah. 880 00:35:10,410 --> 00:35:11,945 - But at the same time, like, your feelings about it 881 00:35:12,012 --> 00:35:14,548 are still valid, and now you can tell her 882 00:35:14,615 --> 00:35:17,284 how you really feel. Ready? 883 00:35:17,351 --> 00:35:18,685 - Yeah, time for this. 884 00:35:18,752 --> 00:35:21,622 [soft dramatic music] 885 00:35:21,688 --> 00:35:22,789 - I'm also here about Melissa. 886 00:35:22,856 --> 00:35:24,291 I just want to make sure I understand 887 00:35:24,358 --> 00:35:26,426 the extent of her involvement. - She's my best friend. 888 00:35:26,493 --> 00:35:27,895 - OK, so she's your best friend. 889 00:35:27,961 --> 00:35:29,963 Did she know you were talking to John 890 00:35:30,030 --> 00:35:31,765 and that you were catfishing him? 891 00:35:31,832 --> 00:35:33,767 - Yeah. - Okay. 892 00:35:33,834 --> 00:35:36,370 But John was never messaging anyone else? 893 00:35:36,436 --> 00:35:37,771 - No, never, no, it was all me. 894 00:35:37,838 --> 00:35:39,540 No, yeah, for sure. It was all me. 895 00:35:39,606 --> 00:35:41,708 - OK, well, I mean, look, 896 00:35:41,775 --> 00:35:45,012 I asked Doris how she's feeling now. 897 00:35:45,078 --> 00:35:47,014 And her response, "Well, I'm concerned 898 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,982 about how John's feeling." - I'm pretty pissed right now. 899 00:35:49,049 --> 00:35:51,251 Like, she just tried to-- I almost fell for it too. 900 00:35:51,318 --> 00:35:53,353 She tried to get me to feel sorry for her 901 00:35:53,420 --> 00:35:56,256 for lying to me for so long. I don't get how that works. 902 00:35:56,323 --> 00:35:57,591 Like, you knew I've been 903 00:35:57,658 --> 00:35:59,793 in a manipulative relationship before. 904 00:35:59,860 --> 00:36:01,895 You just tried to play me again like I'm dumb. 905 00:36:01,962 --> 00:36:04,565 I don't get how this is going to-- 906 00:36:04,631 --> 00:36:08,502 ugh, like, just why? 907 00:36:08,569 --> 00:36:10,370 Like, I had some real feelings there. 908 00:36:10,437 --> 00:36:12,940 - I mean, if you think that I'm manipulative-- 909 00:36:13,006 --> 00:36:14,775 - You really just tried to play me right there. 910 00:36:14,842 --> 00:36:16,176 - How did I play you? 911 00:36:16,243 --> 00:36:17,778 I would love to know. please tell me. 912 00:36:17,845 --> 00:36:19,446 - You're trying to act all sad and sweet 913 00:36:19,513 --> 00:36:21,715 and like you hurt more than me. There's no way. 914 00:36:21,782 --> 00:36:23,016 I've been the one that's been played. 915 00:36:23,083 --> 00:36:25,085 - That's what I'm saying, I'm feeling for you. 916 00:36:25,152 --> 00:36:26,787 I'm sad for you. 917 00:36:26,854 --> 00:36:29,289 OK, I could give a less damn about myself. 918 00:36:29,356 --> 00:36:30,624 - I don't know. 919 00:36:30,691 --> 00:36:32,226 That's not what I heard a minute ago, but-- 920 00:36:32,292 --> 00:36:34,127 - I think that you have been through a lot... 921 00:36:34,194 --> 00:36:37,464 - Yes. - And I feel for you. 922 00:36:37,531 --> 00:36:39,833 But I think with what you have been through, 923 00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:41,969 you may not even be conscious of it, 924 00:36:42,035 --> 00:36:45,405 but I think that the few things that you have said 925 00:36:45,472 --> 00:36:47,040 have been manipulative. 926 00:36:47,107 --> 00:36:49,209 Saying, "I care about you more than I care 927 00:36:49,276 --> 00:36:51,945 about myself is now"-- - Feelings. 928 00:36:52,012 --> 00:36:55,649 - Yes, but you have now put it in his mind 929 00:36:55,716 --> 00:36:57,784 that he needs to feel sorry for you 930 00:36:57,851 --> 00:36:59,186 because you don't care about yourself. 931 00:36:59,253 --> 00:37:01,255 - Okay, I don't want you to feel sorry for me at all. 932 00:37:01,321 --> 00:37:03,490 - And that makes him feel like his feelings are invalid. 933 00:37:03,557 --> 00:37:06,860 - Can I say that, or does that sound manipulative too? 934 00:37:06,927 --> 00:37:08,462 I'm just being open. Like, I don't want-- 935 00:37:08,529 --> 00:37:12,065 - I don't think--I don't think that you're conscious of it, 936 00:37:12,132 --> 00:37:14,801 but it is something to consider moving forward 937 00:37:14,868 --> 00:37:16,403 with how you communicate. 938 00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:18,071 - I would love for him to tell me where he's coming from, 939 00:37:18,138 --> 00:37:19,339 though, for real. - I ain't got time to waste. 940 00:37:19,406 --> 00:37:20,707 - I would have told you eventually. 941 00:37:20,774 --> 00:37:22,509 - You just wasted three months of my life 942 00:37:22,576 --> 00:37:24,011 I'm not going to get back. 943 00:37:24,077 --> 00:37:26,813 - I didn't know that I was wasting your life. 944 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,082 - Don't feel sorry for me. 945 00:37:29,149 --> 00:37:31,451 - I still thought it was a good experience 946 00:37:31,518 --> 00:37:34,621 to be able to talk to somebody. - To talk to somebody? 947 00:37:34,688 --> 00:37:35,822 - Yeah. - Yeah. 948 00:37:35,889 --> 00:37:36,990 But I didn't want to talk to a stranger. 949 00:37:37,057 --> 00:37:38,892 That's the thing. - I was myself. 950 00:37:38,959 --> 00:37:40,260 It's just not the picture, for sure. 951 00:37:40,327 --> 00:37:41,495 - I want to know who I'm talking to. 952 00:37:41,562 --> 00:37:43,096 - Yeah. 953 00:37:43,163 --> 00:37:44,565 - How are you just feeling right now? 954 00:37:44,631 --> 00:37:48,235 When you go home, are you open to her messaging you? 955 00:37:48,302 --> 00:37:50,804 - Oh, no, I'm pretty blown by all this. 956 00:37:50,871 --> 00:37:53,340 - I'm-- take all the time you need. 957 00:37:53,407 --> 00:37:54,775 - Are you able to delete the Meghan profile? 958 00:37:54,842 --> 00:37:55,976 - Absolutely. 959 00:37:56,043 --> 00:37:57,211 I can do it right now. - Can we? 960 00:37:57,277 --> 00:37:58,846 I just feel like it'd be good for everyone. 961 00:37:58,912 --> 00:38:01,081 - [bleep] yeah, yes, yeah. Let me go get it. 962 00:38:01,148 --> 00:38:04,651 I actually will be very happy to do that. 963 00:38:04,718 --> 00:38:06,620 Delete account. - There it is. 964 00:38:06,687 --> 00:38:08,589 - Yeah, I'm free. I'm free. 965 00:38:08,655 --> 00:38:10,157 - That was exhausting. - Yes. 966 00:38:10,224 --> 00:38:11,458 Thank you. - Good job. 967 00:38:11,525 --> 00:38:12,960 - I'm free. 968 00:38:13,026 --> 00:38:14,995 This is not something I would normally do. 969 00:38:15,062 --> 00:38:17,030 I'm just--I'm letting you know that, John. 970 00:38:17,097 --> 00:38:20,367 It's like not-- if that makes it any better. 971 00:38:20,434 --> 00:38:22,469 - So the TV. 972 00:38:22,536 --> 00:38:24,304 - Yeah, what are we doing about this television? 973 00:38:24,371 --> 00:38:26,006 - Yeah, I got it for you, please take it. 974 00:38:26,073 --> 00:38:28,542 - Are you sure? - I am totally sure. 975 00:38:28,609 --> 00:38:29,943 No hard feelings. 976 00:38:30,010 --> 00:38:31,144 - At least I got something out of this. 977 00:38:31,211 --> 00:38:32,513 - There you go. - Let's take the TV. 978 00:38:32,579 --> 00:38:33,847 - John, why don't you grab it? 979 00:38:33,914 --> 00:38:36,416 - So that's the-- oh, he's going to grab it all. 980 00:38:36,483 --> 00:38:38,585 - You sure? 981 00:38:38,652 --> 00:38:40,387 - I don't think the kids are going to break this one. 982 00:38:40,454 --> 00:38:42,356 For sure. - Yeah. 983 00:38:42,422 --> 00:38:45,492 Well, good luck to you. - Thank you. 984 00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:46,927 - We wish you all the best. 985 00:38:46,994 --> 00:38:48,729 Thanks for coming-- coming forward. 986 00:38:48,795 --> 00:38:50,697 - Yes, thank you. - Nice to meet you. 987 00:38:50,764 --> 00:38:52,299 I wish you the best. - Thank you. 988 00:38:52,366 --> 00:38:53,600 - Me too. - Ready? 989 00:38:53,667 --> 00:38:55,335 Yeah, I'm ready. - OK. 990 00:38:55,402 --> 00:38:57,171 - Hope you find what you're looking for. 991 00:38:57,237 --> 00:38:58,772 - Thank you. - I'll at least give you a hug. 992 00:38:58,839 --> 00:39:00,641 - OK. - OK. 993 00:39:00,707 --> 00:39:02,309 Bye. - Bye. 994 00:39:02,376 --> 00:39:03,810 - Bye. 995 00:39:03,877 --> 00:39:05,879 - Well-- 996 00:39:05,946 --> 00:39:07,881 - I mean, we went here expecting a catfish, 997 00:39:07,948 --> 00:39:09,950 and that's what we got, so... 998 00:39:10,017 --> 00:39:11,852 I just hope she changes, personally. 999 00:39:11,919 --> 00:39:14,087 - ♪♪ I want you to hold me ♪♪ 1000 00:39:14,154 --> 00:39:16,590 ♪♪ Console me, control me ♪♪ 1001 00:39:16,657 --> 00:39:21,028 ♪♪ You know that I'm better off out here alone ♪♪ 1002 00:39:21,094 --> 00:39:23,830 - I'm glad, though, that you spoke up for yourself. 1003 00:39:23,897 --> 00:39:26,600 - I'm still learning to speak up for myself sometimes. 1004 00:39:26,667 --> 00:39:28,368 I'm getting there. 1005 00:39:28,435 --> 00:39:31,138 - But I think this is a good start in knowing 1006 00:39:31,205 --> 00:39:33,373 how to hold other people accountable. 1007 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,609 On to the next one. 1008 00:39:35,676 --> 00:39:38,345 - The beat goes on. 1009 00:39:38,412 --> 00:39:43,851 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1010 00:39:43,917 --> 00:39:45,919 - Hey. - What's up, John? 1011 00:39:45,986 --> 00:39:47,521 How are you? 1012 00:39:47,588 --> 00:39:48,789 - Oh, I'm fine, I'm a little tired. 1013 00:39:48,856 --> 00:39:50,290 Got my son today. 1014 00:39:50,357 --> 00:39:51,758 He's upstairs playing video games. 1015 00:39:51,825 --> 00:39:54,528 - Is he playing video games on the new television-- 1016 00:39:54,595 --> 00:39:55,996 - From Doris? - He is. 1017 00:39:56,063 --> 00:39:59,433 - Oh, my God. - Look at that. 1018 00:39:59,499 --> 00:40:01,235 - Have you talked to Doris? - No. 1019 00:40:01,301 --> 00:40:02,936 - Well, probably for the best. 1020 00:40:03,003 --> 00:40:04,204 - What about Ty? 1021 00:40:04,271 --> 00:40:05,506 What did he think about all this? 1022 00:40:05,572 --> 00:40:06,673 - Oh, he was blown. 1023 00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:08,575 He expected it more than I did. 1024 00:40:08,642 --> 00:40:10,043 - He told you so. 1025 00:40:10,110 --> 00:40:12,145 - Yeah, he did. 1026 00:40:12,212 --> 00:40:14,648 - All right, John, well, we're happy to see you smiling. 1027 00:40:14,715 --> 00:40:16,984 And now you get to find someone who hopefully 1028 00:40:17,050 --> 00:40:19,086 is who they say they are. - Exactly. 1029 00:40:19,152 --> 00:40:20,654 - Love to see it. We'll see you. 1030 00:40:20,721 --> 00:40:22,990 - Take care, buddy. - All right, thank you. 1031 00:40:23,056 --> 00:40:25,225 - Hey. - Doris. 1032 00:40:25,292 --> 00:40:28,095 - Hey, Doris. - Hi, you guys. 1033 00:40:28,161 --> 00:40:30,097 - What's up? - I'm good, I'm good. 1034 00:40:30,163 --> 00:40:32,699 Yeah, whole experience was really wild. 1035 00:40:32,766 --> 00:40:34,168 - Yeah. 1036 00:40:34,234 --> 00:40:36,570 - Do you miss that connection that you guys had? 1037 00:40:36,637 --> 00:40:39,206 - No, yeah. I don't. 1038 00:40:39,273 --> 00:40:41,375 But that was the first time I had ever met John, too, 1039 00:40:41,441 --> 00:40:45,045 so it just wasn't the same as through the computer. 1040 00:40:45,112 --> 00:40:46,680 - Do you think that part of that 1041 00:40:46,747 --> 00:40:49,650 was because you lied to him? 1042 00:40:49,716 --> 00:40:52,286 - No, Because, you know, I personally would be 1043 00:40:52,352 --> 00:40:56,490 open-minded, you know, to hear someone out. 1044 00:40:56,557 --> 00:41:00,260 I wouldn't care about a name or appearance too much. 1045 00:41:00,327 --> 00:41:03,830 - Well everyone is different. - Yes. Yes. 1046 00:41:03,897 --> 00:41:05,365 - Well, thank you for coming on the show 1047 00:41:05,432 --> 00:41:07,334 and hopefully learned something. 1048 00:41:07,401 --> 00:41:09,303 - Yes. - Now you can start new. 1049 00:41:09,369 --> 00:41:10,838 - Thank you so much. - All right. 1050 00:41:10,904 --> 00:41:13,440 - Bye. - Bye you guys, bye. 1051 00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:18,278 - Mark met Murray Taylor in a game. 1052 00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:20,414 - I had an in-game party. 1053 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,516 We really connected on an emotional level. 1054 00:41:22,583 --> 00:41:24,384 - I'm so curious to see what she looks like. 1055 00:41:24,451 --> 00:41:25,853 Whoa, hello. - Work! 1056 00:41:25,919 --> 00:41:27,254 - Jesus. 1057 00:41:27,321 --> 00:41:29,089 - She's on jets. She ain't in that game. 1058 00:41:29,156 --> 00:41:31,458 - There is a real girl. Her name is Marie Taylor. 1059 00:41:31,525 --> 00:41:32,960 But that's just not who he's talking to. 1060 00:41:33,026 --> 00:41:35,028 - Hello? Hello?