- On my birthday, I had an in-game party,
and she was like my own personal cheerleader that day.
And we just talked the whole night.
Really connected on an emotional level.
- I'm so curious to see what she looks like.
- Yeah. - Whoa! Hello!
Holy Jesus.
She looks like she's got a bunch of stories.
- She's on jets, honey. She ain't in that game.
- There is a real girl, her name is Marie Taylor,
and she's the girl in the pictures.
- Right.
- But that's just not who he's talking to.
- This is a stranger's home. - Hello?
- [whispering] What the [bleep]?
- Hello? Hello?
[dramatic music sting]
[phone ringing]
- It's Yaniv.
Hello?
- You're missing breakfast.
- Driver?
- Fine. Field trip.
What is this man doing?
You know, it's always something with Yaniv.
I don't know. It's just...
Where is he?
What is going on?
I mean-- [horn honks]
No. You cannot be for real.
[upbeat music]
- Surprise. Look what I bought.
- You are insane.
You're insane.
This is how I want to arrive to work
from now on.
- You did not get a limo.
You have lost... - You ready to work?
- You've lost your [bleep] mind.
I let you do the pawn shops.
I let you buy a million gold rings and chains.
But this?
How much is he paying you? - That's my friend.
- This takes the cake.
- All right, you wanna just wait here, and I'll...
- Yeah. - Thank you, Maya.
Let's do it.
Whoo! After you. - You've lost your mind.
Here's the question.
Does Laura know about the limo?
- Actually, I gotta go for a second.
Don't we have an email? We should get into this.
Shall we? - We shall.
- Ooh! Got an email.
"Is she my dream girl or nah?"
"Dear Nev and Kamie, My name is Mark.
"I'm 30 years old, and I'm from Boston, Massachusetts.
- ♪ I was lost in a world ♪
♪ Then I felt I had a fever ♪
- "I work as an independent contractor,
"and I'm also a gamer, which is how I've gotten myself
"into a bit of a situation.
"For the past year, I've been on a game
"that is all about relationships
"and forming friendships.
"About two months ago,
"a player I'd seen around for a while
"started chatting with me.
"Her name is Marie Taylor,
I call her Taylor, and we completely hit it off."
- ♪ Think I might've found just what I'm looking for ♪
- "We exchanged pics, and she gave me her Snapchat
"and a couple of nights later, we had a Snap call,
and talked most of the night."
- ♪ Just what I'm looking for ♪
- "Our relationship grew way beyond the game.
"But things with Taylor were never easy.
"I keep trying to get us to a more committed place,
but every time I tell her how I feel, she pulls back."
- ♪ Got a taste of it when I'm already reeling ♪
- "I started to get worried that she might not be
"who she says she is,
"and another friend from the game
told me they thought the same thing."
- Work. - "We've never video chatted.
"We've never met.
"And when I asked her for more personal photos,
"she sent me the same ones
"she was sending to other people.
"Taylor and I are not at a great spot at the moment,
"but I'm hoping that we can get back to a place
"where we're dating again,
even if she is a catfish."
- ♪ Think I might've found just what I'm looking for ♪
- "I hope you guys can help me finally the truth.
Mark."
He seems to have a pretty realistic view
of what's happening. - Yeah.
- It sounds like he really likes the idea
of finding out who she is because it sounds like
they've made a real connection. - Yeah.
I think he's right to be skeptical.
- Right.
- But I'm not willing to completely write off
Marie, aka Taylor just yet.
- Hey, well, let's give him a call.
- "Mack." - "Mack."
- "Mack," he's from Boston.
- Hello. - Is this Mack?
- It's Nev and Kamie. - Yeah, it's Nev and Kamie.
- Good. - We just read your email.
And obviously we're intrigued.
Do you still live in Massachusetts?
- What about Taylor? Where does she live?
- Oh. - Okay.
- Oh, well, wait a second.
If she's in Vegas,
it could save us all a headache if you flew here to L.A.
And if she's not in Vegas,
then we go wherever we need to go.
But are you able to fly out here and meet us in L.A.?
- We would love to help you.
I'd love to also get you out to L.A. for the first time
and hopefully figure this out.
- All right, we'll see you tomorrow, buddy.
- All right. - Bye.
- All right, here she goes.
This way. - [laughs]
- Ma'am? - Wow.
This is white glove service.
- Still think it was a mistake? - We'll see. It's growing.
We'll see how she drives. - Okay.
All right, let's do it. Okay.
We're off to pick up Mark.
- No speaking please. I requested a quiet ride.
- Oh, excuse me.
All right.
- Look for someone who looks lost.
- Oh, I got him. I got him.
That's gotta be him. Yeah, I think he's waving.
- This looks like the guy.
Hurry up, chauffeur.
- Oh, my God!
- What's up, dude? - How's it going?
- Welcome, welcome. - I love your Caddy.
- Thank you. - Hi.
- Kamie, Mark. - Welcome.
- So nice to meet you. - Jump on in.
- All righty. - All right.
Let's get you to your Airbnb. - Well, welcome.
- Thank you. - For your first time in L.A...
- I feel special.
- Had to give you the full experience.
♪ ♪
- Here we are.
Ma'am. - Thank you.
- Why, thank you. - Sir, welcome.
It's been a pleasure.
- Look at that. - Humble abode.
- Come on in. - Thank you.
- Welcome home, Mark.
This is nice!
- This is nice.
- Here, have a seat. Let's get down to it.
[sighs] Well, we're here finally.
Let's talk about Taylor.
So why don't you take us back
to when you guys first met.
Explain what was happening, what game you were on.
Paint the picture.
- So it's a PvP-based game, player versus player.
It's called "Party in My Dorm."
- Oh. - It's a mobile game.
There's different clubs that you can join,
and you can socialize. - What are you trying to do?
What is the function or purpose of the game?
- It's to upgrade your toon and your dorm, basically,
and play against other players. Make friendships.
- This is, like, college-themed?
- It's like a college theme, yeah.
- Okay.
- So I would see her around all the time.
We would just socialize and party.
And then on my birthday this year,
I had an in-game birthday party,
which was really fun, and I was hosting it.
So I was mainly just trying to focus on what I was doing,
not really socializing
while everyone was talking at the party.
I was having a little bit of anxiety.
Like, I feel like I messed up or something.
She comes out of nowhere, and she's like
"No, you're doing good. You're doing great."
She was like my own personal cheerleader that day.
And later on that night, we ended adding each other,
and we just talked the whole night.
We stayed up all night till the sun rose.
Just really connected on an emotional level.
- But still all just typing? - But still all just typing.
- Got it. You know how old she is?
- 21.
- So now you're officially friends in the app.
So how does the relationship progress?
- So in the game,
you can be in a relationship with someone,
and after a couple of days, we were in a relationship
on the game. - Wow.
Now, presumably your name and avatar in the game
are not the same as your real name
and what you look like
in real life. - Correct.
- When did you first, like,
actually see what she looked like?
- So we were talking in-game,
and I had said that I looked like my avatar..
And she was like, "I kinda look like mine."
I was like, "Oh, I'd like to see what you look like,"
and she was like, "Do you have Snapchat?"
So I added her on Snapchat,
and that's where she sent me some pictures and videos
of herself. - Oh.
- Did she say she has other social media
other than Snapchat?
Does she have Instagram or anything?
- Yeah, she has an Instagram,
but we would talk through the game and Snapchat.
And then a little later down the road,
she ended up giving me her phone number.
- Got it. And so then did you talk on the phone?
- Yes, we've had voice calls.
- And how are those? - They were good.
We can sit there, and we can chat for a couple of hours.
- Oh, wow, so that's nice. - Yeah.
- So what's she like?
- She's pretty. She's funny.
She's got a great sense of humor.
She's into games just like me,
but she's also--like, she loves going to the beach.
She loves going on vacation.
She loves traveling, and I love traveling, myself.
- So about how long have you guys now been talking?
- Couple months.
- And you've asked to video chat?
- I have not asked to video chat.
- Oh, okay.
- You know, we would talk on the phone all the time,
so I didn't really see, like,
video chatting as something that was needed to be done.
- And what's her voice like? Does she have an accent?
Does she sound young? What does she sound like?
- She sounds like she puts a lot of emphasis
on making her voice sound a little more high-pitched
than normal. - Oh, so you--
- You said she's 21, but maybe she could be older
and, like, putting on a younger voice?
- It's a possibility.
- Do you think it's possible that it could be a guy
speaking with sort of a girl voice?
- I don't think it's a guy.
- But you have suspicions
that she's not the girl in the photos.
- I do have suspicions. - Yeah, why?
- So when we had first started talking on Snapchat,
a couple days in, I was like,
"Hey, can you send me a picture blowing me a kiss?"
And she was just like, "That's too much effort."
And then a couple of people that I know in the game
think that she's a catfish.
- Well, you mentioned someone in the email
that's also sort of suspicious
that she may not be who she says she is.
- Mm-hmm, I have a friend right here,
if you wanna read.
That right there.
- You said, "Dude, I don't know.
But there's just something about her I can't explain."
And he said, "Sure she actually her, bro?"
And then you said, "Yes, I'm sure, man."
He said, "How though, man?
Just don't get hurt."
Got it. - Hmm.
- Hmm, well, I guess the big question for me
is, like, when you became sort of official
in a relationship in the game,
did you guys ever talk about being exclusive in real life?
- Yeah, so I told her that I had feelings for her
and that if we kept talking the way that we did,
I was gonna start falling hard for her,
and I feel like I might have scared her a little bit
or however she was feeling, she wasn't having it.
- What did she say?
- She didn't really say anything.
She just broke our relationship in the game.
- When was that?
- That was, like, five days ago.
- Oh.
- What's been going on since then?
Have you guys recovered from that?
- Yeah, a little bit.
I was just like, "Look, I'm sorry. I miss you."
I mean, we talk. I still care about her a lot.
I definitely have love for her.
- Well?
- I'm so curious to see what she looks like.
- Yeah. - Why don't you come on in?
The confessional couch. - Let's see it, buddy.
- Whoa! - Whoa.
- Hello! - Come on.
- Good lord, Mark.
Holy Jesus! - Mark!
Mark. - Oh!
- She's like a porn star. [laughs]
- What?
Wow. - Mark.
- Is there a possibility if you met Taylor
and she wasn't the girl in the picture,
you'd still be open to getting to know her
and potentially giving it a try?
- Yeah, I'd still be open to it.
I mean, I'd tell her every time.
I'm like, I didn't fall for you because of your looks.
I fell for you because of your personality,
your mentality, I fell in love with your mind.
- Well, I'm curious. - Mm-hmm.
- So send us everything that you do have for her.
- We'll get to the bottom of this.
- We're gonna figure this out. - I hope so.
- Let's do it. - Perfect.
- Good to meet you. - All right.
It was great meeting you. - Hope we can figure this out.
- We'll see you tomorrow. - All right.
- Those pictures? - Oh, my God.
- I mean, I don't know who that girl is, but...
- She ain't in that mother[bleep] game.
- Yeah.
- If you're already in a virtual reality,
you can really be anybody that you want.
I think that that's what's so exciting and cool about it,
but it's getting off the game
and having those relationships turn into real life scenarios
that become difficult. - Right.
- It's just such a blurry line
between fantasy and reality.
And I'm really not sure which side of that line
Taylor is gonna fall on.
- Thank you, sir.
Wow. The service doesn't stop.
- All right. Let's get down to business.
What are we trying to do here?
So Mark met this girl Marie Taylor in a game.
They were casual friends for a little while.
Taylor ends up invited to his virtual birthday party,
and I guess Mark's a little stressed.
Is it fun? Are people having a good time?
She assures him that they are.
They start chatting, and sparks fly.
- Yeah. - They exchange Snapchats.
They start snapping. They exchange numbers.
They start talking on the phone.
Long, lovely conversations.
They have so much in common.
Things move quick, and...
- The photos.
- And the photos are of a very pretty girl.
But is that who he's really talking to?
All right, let's see if he sent us the info we want.
Yeah, we got it. Here we are.
"Hey, Nev and Kamie.
"Here's the information that I have for you about Taylor.
"Her name is Marie Taylor, she's 21,
and lives in Atlanta, Georgia."
Her phone number, her Snap, her Instagram,
and her game handle.
Wow. He has a lot of info on her.
"Also attaching the photos that Taylor sent me.
"I'll appreciate anything that you find for me.
Toodles, Boston Mark."
- You have to say it with the accent.
"Boston Mack." - "Boston Mack."
All right, what do we got?
Where do you wanna start, Kamie?
- I mean, the first thing that pops up to me
is that the phone number is a Miami-based number.
- Didn't realize you knew your Miami...
- Miss 305. - Very cool.
- I only know it 'cause of Pitbull.
- Let's search it. If it comes up, Marie Taylor,
then great. - Okay.
- Put it in. Here we go, searching.
Ooh.
Mauricio [bleep].
- In Miami. Interesting.
- It says it's a landline. - So it's a text app.
- And a Facebook page.
- Oh. - Oh.
- No. No.
Okay, well, this could be her. - No.
He would know if he was talking to Mauricio.
- Interesting, let's search on the another website.
Okay, so potential owners, Mauricio [bleep].
Philip [bleep], Belinda [bleep].
- Marie Taylor! - Oh, my God!
Marie Taylor! Look at that.
It says "Marie Taylor." - Wow, okay.
- No information though.
No social media either. - Yeah.
- Marie Taylor's just too common of a name to search.
But the fact that her name comes up
with the phone number is good, I guess, right?
- Yeah. - All right.
Let's pick out her Instagram.
Here we go. There she is.
So 13 posts, 3,200 followers.
- Wow. - A lot of comments.
- Wow.
- Oh, and then she's got a bunch of stories.
One from Atlanta, one from Florida,
one from Los Angeles, Bahamas, Las Vegas,
New York City, Toronto. They keep going.
- She's on jets honey.
She ain't in that dorm room game.
She's not. - Doesn't feel like it.
Wouldn't make sense.
If I didn't know to be suspicious of this girl,
I wouldn't necessary think
this wasn't a real Instagram account.
I think we gotta search the photos as well.
- Okay. - Right?
- Yeah. - What's our best face pic?
That one's pretty good, right?
All right, let's do the facial recognition search.
Boom. - Mm-hmm.
- Oh, okay. We got some hits on that.
What is this?
Marilyn Monroe scent? What?
Oh, here we go. What's this?
Contact info.
Should we look up this number?
470... [bleep]
[dramatic music]
- One potential owner. - No!
No, no, no, no, no.
- I guess it's her.
- No. No.
[upbeat music]
No.
At this exact moment, I'd have to say
we've only confirmed that she could be real.
We've found nothing to suggest she's lying.
- I'm confused.
- Let's just think about this.
Could we be missing something here?
Is there a chance
someone's just impersonating this girl online?
This might be the real girl's Instagram,
but that doesn't mean that he's talking to her,
'cause they don't interact on Instagram.
- Right.
- The only interact through the game...
[together] And Snapchat.
- So this could just be the real girl.
- Yeah.
- But that's just not who he's talking to
'cause the picture that we search of her,
which we took off her real Instagram,
brought us to another phone number.
That might be her real phone number.
The real girl. - Mm.
- The phone number he has... - Mm.
- Which is a text app,
she may have cleverly registered
to the real girl's name.
We haven't found anything
that he has that he communicates
with her... - Right.
- That links back to the real girl.
- There is a real girl.
Her name looks like it is Marie Taylor.
She's the girl in the pictures. - Right.
- We don't know if that's who he talked to.
- Right.
- Whew. Wow, what a roller coaster.
- I--it's her! It's not her. Could it be her?
We don't know.
- That is a real girl.
There's no way this is who Mark's talking to.
[soft dramatic music]
- Oh, boy.
- Hey. - Hello!
- How's it going? - Look at Mark!
We got work to do.
Things to discuss.
- All righty.
- How's it going, man?
- It's going. How are you today?
- Good. I didn't think about this,
but does Taylor know you're in L.A.?
- No, she's doesn't.
- Have you talked to her at all?
- Not really.
- We had a pretty exciting morning...
- All righty. - Researching your lady friend.
- Mm-hmm.
- So why don't we just walk you through
what we found? Everyone slide in.
So we started with the phone number.
The first thing that came up was a man's name.
Mauricio [bleep].
This is Mauricio [bleep].
- You think you would know the difference
between her voice and his voice?
- Yeah.
- I don't think this is who you're talking to.
- I don't think it is either.
- So but then check this out.
The website came up with multiple potential owners,
and one potential owner, Marie Taylor.
So that felt like a good sign.
But no info, no age, no address, no nothing.
But it looks like it's a text app,
so then we went to her Instagram account
that you gave us.
Here's where it gets interesting.
When we screenshot pictures from her Instagram,
specifically this one,
and we ran them in an image search,
we got one interesting hit.
So we went to that website, "Marylin Monroe Scent."
We weren't sure how any of this related,
but then, when we scrolled down,
all of a sudden we saw the picture.
- Mm-hmm.
- In the photo, there's a phone number.
So I said, let's just see what that is.
Let's run that phone number
'cause it's obviously not the same phone number
you have... - Right.
- For Taylor. So check this out.
So we ran the phone number, and look what we found.
- Marie Taylor.
- Potential owner, Marie Taylor.
Now all of a sudden, we're like, wait a second.
We've now found two numbers connected to Marie Taylor
that both seem to related to-- one to a phone of her,
one's the number you have.
Like, is this all just strangely
pointing to the simple truth
that she is just exactly who she says she is?
But... - "But." There's always a but.
- Well, the "but" in this case
is we still can't explain why, if it's her,
why couldn't she send you a... - Personal photo.
- Personal photo or video?
She seems like the kind of person who could do that.
- Right.
- So what are the possibilities
that Marie Taylor's real, that's her Instagram,
she's the girl in the pictures, but you're just talking
to someone else who's essentially impersonating her,
who registered her number under her name,
which then makes me think, well, then if it's not her,
it's just someone entirely different,
and we have no idea who it is then.
- Right.
- Sadly, that's what we think is happening,
that you're not talking to this girl.
That's where we got, we were so surprised
and uncertain about what it all meant,
we wanted to come over, talk to you,
try to get your gauge on it to see what you thought.
What's your, kind of, gut telling you?
- Um, my gut is telling me...
that...
I'm talking to the person that I think I'm talking to.
Or the actual person.
- I mean, but the concern is always,
if it is the real person that you're talking to,
what has been keeping them
from furthering your conversations?
What's been keeping them from getting on Facetime?
- Right.
It's a lot to take in and a lot to think about.
- All right, well, here we are now,
so typically this would be the opportunity for us
to message her via the phone number you have.
Let me just draft something, and you can talk about it.
- All righty.
- "This is Nev from 'Catfish.'
"I'm with Mark here in L.A.
"Would love to work with you guys
"on a meet up.
"Let me know when you can chat for a minute
so we can figure this out."
- Smiley face. - That good?
Does that sound okay to you?
- That sounds perfect. - All right.
- I'm gonna send it.
All right, let's give her a few minutes.
See if she writes back.
- There is on more--
way that we might be able to-- - Oh, come--
Get in contact with her. - Snap?
- Yeah, because...
- Sorry, we thought you were about to drop a bomb.
- There is just one more thing. - Oh, my God.
- I was gonna say, please.
- Yeah, let's try the Snapchat.
Why don't we take a picture, the three of us,
and then you text it to her and just say, like, hey...
- You wanna put a filter on, no filter?
- Always a filter. - Always a filter.
I said, "Hey, I know Nev just texted you.
Get back to me when you can, doll."
- All right, I will keep an eye on my phone.
Hopefully we hear back from her.
- Mm-hmm. - Check in.
And then we'll be able to make a plan.
- All righty.
- All right.
All right, hang in there. - All righty.
- Hopefully we'll have some good news soon.
- All right. - Later, bud.
- All right, have a good one. - See you tomorrow.
[dramatic music]
- He just seems
like he's totally stunned.
- Well, 'cause I think that he thinks that it's her,
but I don't want to put that in his head.
- Right, well, I think he's shocked
that we didn't immediately find evidence
that it's not her. - Right.
- But then that raises new questions,
which is, well, if it is her, what's with the weird behavior?
I don't know what to think.
- Good morning. - Hello. Good morning.
All right, anything?
Did you check the phone? - There's nothing.
- Nothing? - Yeah.
- All right, let's call Mark
'cause maybe he's heard something.
Either way, get this show on the road.
[tense music]
- Hey, morning, Mark.
- What's up, Mark?
- You sound surprisingly chipper.
What's going on?
- Uh-huh. Any response?
- Okay. - Okay, so that's progress.
- Right. - Great, all right.
- Okay, great, 'cause we don't have any update
on our end, but that is good.
The door is open to communicate.
- It's cracked. - Sit tight.
We're gonna head over.
I don't know if we have to go to Vegas
or if she can come here, or...
- All right, we'll see you soon.
All right, let's hit the road.
I think he is feeling very confident.
- Maybe too confident?
- Well, I'm concerned because I still don't feel like
there's any real hard evidence suggesting it's her.
My gut still tells me there's some weird sort of firewall
between the girl he's talking to
and the actual girl. - Mm-hmm.
- And now I think his hopes are up higher
than they might have been before.
- Yeah, he sounded very excited.
[phone chimes]
- Oh. - Whoa.
Who's that? Is that her?
What'd she say?
[phone chimes]
Another message? Wait, read it to me.
- "When did he get to L.A.?
"Why is he here?
"Never mind, it doesn't matter.
I'm not meeting up. This won't be good."
- What?
- Wait, "why is he here?"
- "Why is he here?" - That means she's here.
Right?
She said "It doesn't matter. "She's not meeting up.
This won't be good." - Huh.
- I'm gonna say, "Why do you say that?"
- Yeah, "What makes you..." - "What makes you say that?"
- Sent.
♪ ♪
- Hello. - Hey, how's it going?
- There he is.
- Going to the back today.
I guess it's a nice cool, cloudy day.
- Lovely.
- All right, well, anything since we spoke?
- No, nothing.
- Okay, well, we have a little update.
On our way over here, she wrote back.
"When did he get to L.A.?
"Why is he here?
"Never mind, doesn't matter. I'm not meeting up.
This won't be good."
So we wrote back, "What makes you say that?"
And she hasn't responded.
What do you make of all that?
- It's a lot to take in, but...
I don't know.
- But we wanna know, what does she mean
by "Why is he here?"
She's supposed to be in Vegas.
- That's right, sounds like if we analyze her response--
- Sounds like she's-- she's here in L.A. too.
- But, like, what does she mean
by "This won't be good." - I don't know.
- Well, if it's not her,
and she's worried that when you see
who she really is, you'll be upset,
maybe that's what she means. - Maybe.
- How are you feeling now?
Like, I hate to rain on your parade with this
'cause you sounded excited earlier.
- Yeah, I mean, I was. I...
I was nervous and excited,
and I was ready to have some closure,
and now I'm back to step one.
[somber music]
I don't know.
♪ ♪
Can I take a minute, please?
Actually, bro? - Sure.
- ♪ Fall in love before we were ready ♪
♪ Did we both give up before we were steady? ♪
♪ I don't know, I don't know ♪
♪ All I know is that now I'm alone ♪
- I don't think he liked hearing that message.
What's he doing?
- He's smoking.
♪ ♪
- If it's not her, how are we gonna handle that?
- I mean, I just hope she writes back.
Either way, he has to, like, deal with this
he's obviously more invested than he wants to show.
- You can tell. - Ah, [bleep].
- ♪ Everything's over ♪
♪ Without any closure ♪
- He's obviously more invested that he wants to show.
- You can tell. - Ah, [bleep].
[somber music]
All right.
♪ ♪
- Thank you. - No problem.
Well, what are you feeling right now?
I'm not trying to pry,
but I feel like overall you've had, like,
a very optimistic vibe,
but, like, it's clear you're feeling
some kind of way right now. Do you mind talking about that?
- I don't mind.
I mean, I've struggled with anxiety most of my life.
So sometimes in situations like these,
it flares up. It just--my mind starts racing.
I start thinking about one thing,
and then all these thoughts and everything
just jumble up together,
and they're running around in a mosh pit in my head.
I'm thinking about what she said,
thinking of why she would say something like that,
why is she feeling that way?
I mean, I'm sure that she's feeling anxiety
and she's nervous as well.
- Well, if she wanted to ghost us and not respond,
she could've done that,
but she texted us back, so it feels like there's an opening.
[phone chiming]
- No.
- It's her calling? Oh, my God.
- [laughs] - Hello?
- Yeah, hi.
- Okay, great.
Uh, are you in Los Angeles?
- Oh, okay, great.
Yeah, we're here, ready to go, and excited to meet up.
So send the address, and we'll head over.
- Okay, thanks.
- Oh, my God. - What?
- I get the voice now.
It's definitely-- has to be a put-on voice.
It sounds like a character.
- Wow, okay. - It sounds like a character.
- That's the voice I was talking about.
- That's your girl, Mark.
- Is it gonna be her?
- No. - I don't know.
- It sounds like a character.
'Cause why has she been so shady if it is her?
[phone chimes] - Oh.
Okay. - We have an address?
- Where is it?
- Encino. - Oh.
[phone chimes]
- She said, "Just text me when you get here."
- Is that her house? - I don't know.
- I'm stunned. - All right.
Let's roll out. - Let's roll out.
- Jump in the front.
All right. - All right.
- Ready? - No.
- Too bad.
- Are you still thinking that we're gonna see the girl
from the pictures?
- I hope so.
- You still think it could be her?
- I think it could be.
There's a possibility that it is.
- I think the chances of her being the girl in the pictures
are very slim.
I think the chances of her having lied to you though
are very high.
- Okay, we turn here,
and then we turn one more time, and we're there.
Yeah, this is the street.
Yeah, there it is.
This is, like, a super nice place to live.
- The light's on in there.
- You see something? - The light, the chandelier.
- Well, oh, wait, I'm supposed to text her.
Okay, "hey, we just parked."
[dramatic music]
- Let's go knock. - All right.
Let's do this. You ready? - Ready.
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- I feel like this is the main door.
- This one? - That gives me...
- I think you're right, you're right.
- That looks almost like a side rental.
- Yeah.
[doorbell chimes]
- Chills.
[phone chimes]
- Oh.
She said, "Come in. The door's open.
I'll be right out."
- No. [laughs]
- Hold on, let me check it out.
- This is a stranger's home, Nev.
- She invited us in.
- This is a stranger's home. - I'm not gonna--hello?
Hello? - I don't like what I'm seeing.
- It's very nice. - I don't care.
That is so weird.
You wanna go in there? - Hello?
- Of course you do. - I don't know.
- Of course you do.
[whispering] What the [bleep]?
That's so weird.
- Hello? - Marie?
- Hello? - You wanna go in there?
- Hello?
- I don't know.
- [whispering] What the [bleep]?
- Hello? - Marie?
Hello? - I'll be right out.
- Oh, okay.
- [whispering] She said she'd be right out.
- This is giving "Dateline" NBC.
- Well...
- And the police are outside, and they're gonna come get us.
- This is really nice.
- Hello? Hi.
- Hi.
- Hi, I'm Nev. - Hi, I'm Marie.
- Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
- This is Kamie. - I'm in shock.
- Hi, Kamie, hi. - Nice to meet you.
- Hi, Mark. - And I'm Mark.
- [laughs] Yeah, I know.
- It's you. - Yeah.
I'm obviously Marie, so yeah.
- Are you the same Marie that he's been talking to
that whole time? - Yeah.
- So it's just always been you? - Yeah.
- Wow.
[soft dramatic music]
- What is happening?
You're you? - I am, yeah.
- Everything that Mark knows, then, about you is true?
I mean, you have--
- Are you in a relationship? - No, I'm single.
- Okay. Are you similarly...
feeling a connection to Mark
the way I think he is for you over the last few months?
- I feel like our whole relationship
was just like a game.
I felt like it was just, like, an in-game thing.
- Okay, so it never felt flirtatious or romantic?
- I mean, like, in the beginning, like, it did.
We, like, flirted a little bit,
but, like, I didn't think it was that big of a deal
'cause it's, like, a online game.
- Sure, but then you guys took it offline kind of
and talked on the phone. - Yeah.
- Okay. - Yeah.
- But is it surprising to you that Mark might have felt like
this "relationship" was a bit more
than just a friendship?
- I mean, no, like, I definitely get that vibe.
- Okay.
- But I just felt like we were always, like, casual.
Like we were just casual online buddies, so, yeah.
- So is that what you meant today
when you said that you didn't want to meet up?
Because this wasn't gonna be good.
- I just, like, didn't really see a reason to meet, like...
- So you didn't, like, want to meet Mark?
- I mean, like, for what?
[clears throat]
- Mark?
- I don't know what to say, and I'm just--
- I mean, like, you got-- you brought us here.
Like, I'm here. Like, you guys texted me.
- I mean, you're...
you're who you say you are. - I know.
- And it's all real.
- Don't know what to say to you,
but, like... [giggles]
- Well, that makes two of us.
- These moments can be pretty awkward.
- Mm-hmm.
- Do you wanna take Mark, chat for a second,
and we can chat for a second. - Yeah.
- 'Cause I wanna make sure everyone is saying
what they need to say and feels comfortable.
- Yeah.
- Come back in, I guess, whenever.
[phone chiming]
- Oh, Mark.
- [exhales deeply]
I can't [bleep] believe it.
I can't--I can't believe it. It's her.
It was really her the whole time.
- But I think it was all just the game.
- The game.
- And I just wanna make that,
like, ring true to you... - Clear.
- So that you don't get your heart broken.
- Unless you're thinking that something else
is gonna come from this.
- I don't know what to expect to come from this
right now at this point.
- Well, I think maybe you read into this relationship
a bit too much.
Then on the other hand, like,
I don't really know if she's cognizant
of that fact that she could hurt somebody
by "playing the game." - Right.
- So, Marie? - Yeah.
- Right? Is that what people call you?
- Yeah. - Okay.
I've spent the last few days with Mark.
Heard his side of this. - Okay.
- So, like, I just wanna-- what's your story?
- I'm from Atlanta. - Okay, who's place is this?
- It's just my friend's right now.
I told him that we'd go and get lunch.
- Are you staying here with him or...?
- Yeah. - Okay, just a friend?
- Just a friend. Yeah, no.
- And so everything that you told Mark
about your interests and likes and dislikes,
that was all real? - Yeah.
- You just, from the very beginning,
only thought of him as this, like, sweet guy on the game
that you enjoy talking to. - Yeah, exactly.
Like, yeah.
I don't lie.
Like, I just think it's, like, funny that...
- Well, surely you understand
that, for Mark, or really any guy,
to meet you online, it doesn't take a lot
to assume that they might get excited
and think like, "Wow, this beautiful young woman
is interested me." - Okay.
- "This is exciting." - Yeah.
For sure, I mean, in the beginning, like,
it was just fun to play with him.
- I mean, if it had just been through the game,
that's one thing, but, like, you guys talked
on the phone, right?
And you had, like, long phone calls.
- Oh, yeah.
- Is it fair to say, that, like,
no mystery here that Mark had a crush on you.
- Yeah, no, yeah. - Okay.
- And it sounds like you did make some efforts
to, like, pump the breaks. - Yeah.
- But do you think you did enough
to, like, very clearly communicate...
- I don't know 'cause, like, we're here now.
- I guess not.
So it's not totally unreasonable for him
to have thought that there was something
and some sort of potential future with you.
'Cause you never explicitly said, "Hey, Mark.
"Just so you know.
"Our friendship/even, like, relationship in the game
is just in the game." - Yeah.
- Hey, guys. - Hey.
- So it's seems like we've got a big case
of miscommunication here. - Right.
- And while misleading, I don't think malicious.
- Yeah, I was just, like...
- Playing a game. - Yeah, exactly.
- But with someone's heart, you know?
- I agree.
- So let's get Mark. - I'll go get him.
Oh, man. Wild.
Not what I expected.
I think, let's just go in there
so that we can make sure that whatever happens moving forward
is very crystal clear.
All right.
So, first of all,
I know it's a little weird and awkward.
Not at all how anybody kinda thought it was gonna go.
- [giggles]
- A relationship status on the game
and your chatting offline
I feel like meant more to you than it did to her.
And I feel like everything that's happened
over the last few months has meant more to you
than it has to her.
So analyze that for yourself
so that you understand moving forward
when you meet someone else,
I don't want you to assign meaning to things
that might not mean what you think they do.
- Right.
- That said, I think you need to be
sensitive and aware of the influence you have
over people who might be attracted to you,
which, so, I think that's why we're here.
You read into it a little bit too much.
You kind of threw it away a little too casually.
And all of a sudden we had two people
not on the same... - Page.
- Yeah, I see that.
- Right, Mark, do you feel like you have everything you need
to, like, go home and move on?
- Yeah. - We good?
Is everyone... - Yeah, I think so.
Good to meet him.
- Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
Thank you.
- It was nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
- Okay, well, bye. - Bye.
- So nice to meet you.
- That was very interesting.
I mean, at least she's honest, right? I mean...
- I can't be mad at it.
I just wish that she would have told you,
Mark, when you told her your feelings,
I wish that she was clear and honest with you
about how she felt.
- Are you cool? Are you good?
- I'm good. - Well, look.
It doesn't happen often,
but you didn't get catfished.
- I didn't get catfished.
- So that's a silver lining.
- And everybody thought I did. - Right.
- She's just not that into you.
- Leave that part out of it. - [chuckles]
- ♪ Is this the way my words fit ♪
♪ ♪
♪ Is this the way my words fit ♪
[upbeat music]
We would talk for hours,
but her and her husband do still live together.
- He would be like, "Yeah, you know, she's carrying my baby."
- She's pregnant? - What?
- This might be the most insane catfish situation
that we've ever seen.
- Gotta be really [bleep] up
to play with somebody's mind.