‐ Four years ago,
Joseph meets this girl Sabrina
on Facebook.
‐ "This is the girl.
"This is the one that
you actually need to settle down with."
‐ Wait. Her daughter died? ‐ What?
‐ This is wild as [bleep]. ‐ Yeah.
‐ Homie is getting played.
‐ That's her right there.
[dramatic music]
♪♪ ♪♪
‐ "I need your help." "Help."
For almost a decade,
"Catfish" has brought desperate hopefuls
the answers they deserve.
‐ Thank you guys so much
for bringing us together.
‐ This time around, though,
we flipped the script.
Now I'm heading out with my cohost, Kamie.
‐ Who's ready to go fishing?
‐ We're helping people who need us the most.
Let's do it.
Only they have no idea.
‐ She doesn't know I reached out to you guys.
‐ Oh, my goodness.
‐ This season, we're being tipped off
by friends...
‐ I care about him a lot. ‐ Family...
‐ My brother's really in love with her.
‐ And even anonymous sources.
Whoa. ‐ What?
‐ This is from the whistle‐blower.
Ride‐or‐dies who will not sit back
while their loved ones get played.
‐ ♪♪ Come on and catch me now ♪♪
‐ Why can't we meet?
‐ Homey is getting played.
So many layers.
‐ 'Cause even when you don't know it...
Chill, chill, chill. ‐ [bleep] him, man.
‐ Take a second. ‐ [exhales]
‐ "Catfish" has your back.
[dramatic musical sting]
I wanted to say I love your hair.
‐ Thank you.
‐ What's involved in getting it...
‐ Oh, God. Where do you want to start?
Having natural hair,
your hair will look different every single day.
If there is an ounce more of humidity in the air,
my air responds.
‐ Let's see what happens to your hair
when I read this email.
‐ [mimics explosion]
[laughs]
‐ "He doesn't see it.
"Hey, Nev and Kamie.
"My name is Krystal.
"I'm writing because I'm worried
"that my big brother Joseph is being catfished.
"For the past eight months,
"my brother has been talking to this girl Sabrina.
"Really beautiful,
"and my brother has gone all in on her.
‐ ♪♪ Having you is my only religion ♪♪
‐ She makes him laugh and makes him into a total mush ball,
which is really funny to me.
‐ ♪♪ Being with you is an easy decision ♪♪
‐ But they've never video chatted.
My brother not asking someone to video chat is not surprising
'cause he's an idiot. ‐ [giggles]
‐ But it turns out this girl
hasn't ever asked him to video chat.
‐ ♪♪ 'Cause I'm ecstatic, baby ♪♪
‐ "I'm sorry, but that's just not possible.
"What 19‐year‐old girl is like, 'Oh, yeah,
let's talk for eight months without me seeing you'?"
‐ Facts.
‐ ♪♪ When I'm with you ♪♪
‐ "Oh, and speaking of her being 19,
"my brother only just found that out.
"Apparently, she told him she was older,
"and someone else spilled the beans.
"If she's lying about that, what else is she lying about?
‐ ♪♪ And there ain't nothin' that I can do ♪♪
♪♪ My love for her is true ♪♪
‐ "Being a good sister,
"I went and took a closer look at her profile.
Guys, it's not good."
‐ [laughs] ‐ "She doesn't look 19,
and nobody in the comments seems to know her."
‐ This is a good sister. ‐ This is great.
"My brother's a great guy, and he deserves
"good things in his life.
"Please help him
"before he wastes more of his time
"on this person.
Thank you, Krystal."
♪♪ ♪♪
‐ I like Krystal. Good sibling.
‐ Let's find out more about this Sabrina.
[computer chiming]
‐ Krystal. ‐ Hey.
‐ Hello. ‐ What's up?
‐ Hi. How are you? I can't believe it's you guys.
‐ Tell us about yourself.
‐ So I'm basically, like,
just a 22‐year old.
I'll be going back to school soon to be an aesthetician.
‐ Cool. ‐ Okay.
‐ And I have a brother. ‐ Joseph is your brother.
‐ Yes. ‐ And how old is Joseph?
‐ 26. ‐ So, okay, we read your email.
‐ Yeah. ‐ Tell us the whole story.
‐ He's been talking to Sabrina for,
he told me, six to eight months.
They're really on the phone all day, every day.
He seems to be pretty in love with her, I guess.
But they've never FaceTimed ever,
and they talked about him moving to her,
where she lives, and living with her.
‐ Is she‐‐how do I say this? Is she, like...
‐ A thirst trap? ‐ Right.
‐ Definitely, it looks like it in her pictures.
‐ So where is Joseph right now? ‐ Actually, at work,
but I could pull him in real quick.
‐ Patch him in, sis.
[computer chimes]
‐ Hey. ‐ Hey.
‐ Oh [bleep].
‐ Welcome to "Catfish."
‐ So can you kind of just fill us all in
a little bit more about Sabrina
and how you met and, like, what her deal is?
‐ I met Sabrina 4 1/2 years ago.
‐ Whoa. ‐ During that time,
we were just being friends and talking.
But we re‐connected, and it's been about, like,
a year and a half nonstop talking in our relationship.
She's real pretty. She's outgoing.
She's very open‐minded.
‐ You guys say that you love each other?
‐ Yeah, we say we love each other.
I've been around other females,
but like, the energy of love is different with her.
‐ And how old is she today?
'Cause we heard it's changed. [laughs]
‐ I thought she was around my age,
but recently I found out that she's, like, 19.
‐ Who told you? ‐ Oh...
well, see, this is what happened, is...
‐ Oh, God. What happened was...
‐ I kind of got caught talking to her cousin,
and then they told me that her real age was 19.
‐ Well... ‐ Joseph.
‐ Got it....aha. ‐ Bro.
‐ She‐‐she was furious about that, you know?
‐ But you're in love with Sabrina.
‐ Yes. A lot. ‐ Your sister thinks
you need some help finally meeting this girl.
‐ I'd like to find out
who's on the other side of that screen.
‐ That's my big brother, and I look up to him,
and I don't want him to end up hurt
and this person not be who they say they are.
‐ Then we're definitely down to help out.
We can fly to Phoenix.
‐ I'd rather fly out to you
and keep the family out the business
and keep her out the business.
‐ I know. All right.
So you want to come to LA?
That's fine with us. ‐ Yes. Yeah, yeah.
‐ I mean, we'll arrange for you to fly out to LA.
We'll meet up with you tomorrow
and then figure out what the next step is.
‐ Hopefully, she's real. You know what I'm saying?
And if she's not,
I'll take you to dinner, okay, Krystal?
‐ Cheesecake Factory. ‐ Oh, my God.
I love Cheesecake Factory.
‐ Okay, so it's a deal. All right.
‐ Have a good day.
‐ See you soon. ‐ Bye, guys.
Wow. Where are you leaning? What is your hair telling you?
‐ When I see the photos, my hair will know.
‐ ♪♪ I got a new craving ♪♪
♪♪ Driving me crazy ♪♪
‐ Our guy has landed at the airport.
All right. Keep your eyes open.
‐ ♪♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪♪
‐ Oh, I see him. Wow, he travels light.
What's up, Joseph?
‐ Hello. Hello. Nice to meet you, brother man.
‐ You too. Jump in.
How you doing? ‐ It's crazy.
My little sister, man.
‐ Has she ever done something like this before?
‐ No. ‐ Well, here we are.
[upbeat music]
‐ We got you in a suite.
both: The Grammy suite. ‐ Wow.
‐ Oh, wow, Okay. ‐ Oh my goodness.
We could have a party here.
‐ This is a nice spot.
‐ Well look, give us the whole story
from, you know, day one.
‐ I met Sabrina on Facebook.
I liked her eyes, and she had that smile, you know?
I was like, "Yo." I was like, "What's good with it?"
And it was like, all right, we conversate
for, like, a few months.
‐ Had you exchanged phone numbers at this point?
‐ No, no. We never exchanged numbers.
‐ Okay, so it was just Facebook.
‐ It was just Facebook at the time.
Then, like, we lost contact
for, like, two years.
‐ Wow. Did you end up getting into other relationships?
‐ Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I would talk to other females.
‐ Okay, but then, somehow, Sabrina came
back into your life. ‐ Yeah, yeah.
Boom, Sabrina popped up, like nothing ever happened.
And that's how we started talking again.
‐ And you're talking on the phone now.
‐ Yeah, yeah. We exchanged numbers.
Sending each other pictures and all that.
She real goofy with [bleep]
and then, like, she's real smart on [bleep].
I know she stays with a smile when she talks to me.
Same with me.
We started talking for days and weeks,
and weeks turned to months, then months into a year.
And I'm like, "Bro, like, that's crazy."
But during all that, I got a message one time
from a random girl and, like, she was like,
"I'm so into you," this and that.
So I was like, "Cool." I was like, "Okay."
So I started messaging her.
A couple days later, I find out that girl was Sabrina's cousin.
‐ Isn't that weird? ‐ Yeah. Kind of blew my mind.
I was like, "You all know each other?"
‐ That's how you found out that they were family?
‐ Yeah, that's how I found out they was family.
‐ Oh, okay. Whoa. ‐ So she sent those messages
and I was like, "What?"
Me and Sabrina got into an argument.
‐ Did she think you were also messing around
with other girls, too, potentially?
‐ Right. Potentially. ‐ And were you?
‐ Were you? ‐ I was, probably.
‐ Joseph. ‐ That's when I found out
that Sabrina was 19.
Her cousin was like, "I don't know why you're with her.
"She's 19 years old.
You need to be with someone older."
So, from there, like, I tried to cut ties
with each and every one of them.
But Sabrina didn't want to go.
She stuck around, and I was like,
"You must really, really be into me."
So I really committed myself to Sabrina.
"This is the girl." I was like, "This is the one
that you actually need to settle down with."
Stopped a lot of [bleep] for her.
Stopped messing around
and, like, just started focusing on her
and just trying to build something different.
‐ Sounds like you're finally at a point
where you're genuinely committed to Sabrina,
more so than you've ever been to any girl.
‐ Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, yeah.
‐ I mean, I gotta‐‐I want to see this girl.
‐ I want to see her. Yeah.
‐ This is Sabrina.
‐ Sabrina. She's cute.
‐ She's definitely very attractive.
‐ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
‐ That woman is not 19 years old.
She's definitely older. ‐ That's what's weird too.
This whole time I thought she was older than me.
‐ Can I just see your... ‐ Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
‐ Your messages? Wow, you really do text a lot.
"Everything all right, love?" What's this about a grave?
‐ She asked to get any ideas for, like, how to raise money.
‐ Did she ask you for money or...
‐ No. She's just saying how much.
‐ But you've never sent her money.
‐ No, not really.
Just sent her some food money once.
‐ So yes‐‐the answer is "Yes, I did send money."
‐ Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
‐ How much was the food? ‐ 20 bucks.
I only sent her 20 bucks.
‐ How many times? ‐ Like two times.
‐ She asked for the money, though?
‐ Yeah, yeah. She was like, "I'm just hungry."
Well, 'cause her apartment caught on fire, and like...
‐ [scoffing] ‐ [groans]
‐ So I was like‐‐ well, I was like‐‐
bro, I was like‐‐I was like, "Bro, go eat something, yo."
‐ [groaning] Oh, God. ‐ Tragic loss.
Apartment's on fire.
Oh my God.
‐ Well, look, there's a lot of stuff involved here.
‐ Yeah. ‐ Whatever you have,
try to put it all in one email to us.
‐ Cool, cool. Got you.
‐ Okay. ‐ I appreciate you, man.
‐ Hasta manana. ‐ Talk to you later.
‐ Oh, boy. I really like Joseph.
‐ He seems cool. But homey is getting played,
because he's been playing others for a very long time.
‐ Right, but then finally feels like he's ready
to get serious about a girl,
and if it turns out Sabrina's lying to him,
it's gonna really suck for him.
‐ I don't think he's a bad guy, but karma is coming for him,
and it is coming hard.
[upbeat music]
‐ Thank you.
Let's get down to business.
‐ All right. Recap.
So four years ago,
Joseph meets this girl Sabrina on Facebook.
They become friends.
And then, for whatever reason, they stop talking.
Then Sabrina shows back up.
They are now boyfriend and girlfriend.
‐ I'm going with "Sabrina's a catfish."
‐ And she just likes messy, fun internet drama.
‐ Yeah, why not? ‐ All right, well, let's begin.
We've got Sabrina's Facebook. We have her address in Denver.
"I attached three pictures she sent me the last few weeks.
"I hope Sabrina is who she says she is,
"and we can move past everything to build
our future lives together."
All right. He knows her on Facebook,
so let's just check out her Facebook.
‐ Sabrina Gomez. ‐ So here's one of her
profile pictures, it's got 150 likes.
‐ She's beautiful. ‐ Yeah, she's very pretty.
And there's a picture of her with a small young lady.
‐ "You have a gorgeous daughter," Armando says.
So she has a kid.
He never mentioned her having a child.
What the [bleep]?
Is that, like, not an important detail?
What about the child? Why would he not tell us that?
‐ I don't know how to explain. We'll have to ask him about it.
Oh, here's a picture of her with her daughter.
"I miss you so much, baby."
Wait.
♪♪ ♪♪
Did...her kid die?
♪♪ ♪♪
Oh, man.
Is her story that she had a daughter who died?
Yeah.
‐ "Eileen, I miss you so much."
‐ It was May of last year.
Oh, here we go. Wow, there's like a‐‐
there's a couple videos here.
‐ "Rest in peace, Eileen."
♪♪ ♪♪
‐ So her daughter died?
"I love you so much.
"I think about you every single day.
"You're no longer in pain or hurt.
Give mommy the strength, baby."
Jeez. How would Joseph not have mentioned that?
‐ That would be a very prominent aspect
of her life story.
But this page doesn't even‐‐
we don't even know if this is a real page
or not, at this point. ‐ Right.
I take we need to photo search some of these pictures.
Let's see if these come up.
♪♪ ♪♪
No. Hmm.
♪♪ ♪♪
No.
No hits.
both: Oh!
‐ Sabrina. ‐ What?
‐ So who is this?
Sabrina [bleep]. Different last name. She's 26.
Look, pictures with her daughter.
This was six days ago.
Eileen alive. A daughter alive.
Right, so clearly, her daughter is not dead.
‐ Eileen. She's alive. ‐ Okay.
‐ But is this another fake page?
‐ Possibly. Would be weird if it was run
by the same person who's running the Facebook,
because on the Facebook, Eileen is dead.
‐ Yeah. ‐ On this page,
Eileen's very much alive.
‐ Yes. This one feels more real.
‐ What does that say?
That says Eileen Mondia.
♪♪ ♪♪
Mm! You want me to enhance?
♪♪ ♪♪
‐ Honor roll thing. ‐ Right.
‐ But it has the principal's name.
‐ That's true. ‐ So we can look up
the principal's name... ‐ Jennifer...
‐ And find the school. ‐ [bleep].
Let's do a Google search for Jennifer [bleep] principal.
♪♪ ♪♪
[bleep] Christian Schools, which is in Los Angeles.
So even if this isn't the real profile,
there's evidence on this one the girl in the pictures...
‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ And her daughter...
‐ Live in California. ‐ Live in California.
‐ And if we can find out what school the kid goes to,
anybody else can figure it out too.
That could be a serious security issue
for this person and her daughter.
‐ That's true. Let's call the school.
[line ringing]
‐ [whispers] Jennifer. ‐ Oh, hi.
I am making a TV show that you may have heard of
called "Catfish."
‐ Well, we believe that one of your students,
Eileen Mondia, and her mother‐‐
looks like someone's using photos
of her and her daughter to create fake profiles.
Our concern is this person is lying to guys.
Obviously, that puts one of your students at risk.
‐ So we'd like to let her mother know that,
because, obviously, we're concerned.
‐ Right. Great.
Thanks so much.
‐ All right, bye.
Okay. ‐ You did the right thing.
‐ All right, so let's send an email.
‐ "Eileen Mondia in danger."
I feel like we're making headway.
‐ All right, great.
All right, so what do we have here?
‐ A whole bunch of bull[bleep].
‐ I think it's pretty clear now that the real woman
in the photos lives in Los Angeles,
and it does sound like the woman behind all this
is lying about having a daughter who is now deceased.
‐ I can't believe that he did not tell us that.
I have multiple questions to ask Joseph,
and I need answers to all of them.
[line ringing]
‐ Yes, Joseph.
‐ Joseph... ‐ How are you?
‐ You have some 'splaining to do.
‐ Where are you?
‐ Oh, yeah? All right.
We found some very interesting information
that we want to share with you.
Stay where you are. We'll come get you.
‐ All right. See you soon.
‐ Let's see what's good with it.
‐ Let's check it out.
‐ Hey. ‐ How you doing today?
‐ What's up, man? ‐ Norman.
‐ Kamie. Nice to meet you. ‐ Kamie.
‐ This is not a typical museum. ‐ Oh, my God.
Look at this place.
‐ This car is one of the pride and joys of the museum.
It was found in a barn.
‐ Imagine trying to park that thing.
‐ Cool. ‐ Wow.
‐ So pretty.
‐ This one is a piece of American history.
Ford GT40.
‐ That thing is cool.
‐ Jump in. ‐ Really? Whee!
[horn honks]
‐ This has been great. ‐ Okay.
‐ Thank you so much. ‐ Thanks so much, Norman.
‐ Yes. ‐ All right.
What do you think of the Peterson?
‐ It was pretty‐‐it was pretty cool.
‐ What was your favorite? ‐ The Batman car.
The 1989. ‐ '89 era.
‐ Yeah. ‐ The best.
‐ It was cool. ‐ It is.
‐ All right, let's dive in.
'Cause we want to get your take on all this.
‐ Cool, cool.
‐ So we started on her Facebook page.
We scrolled through some of her photos.
I think‐‐I don't know if it's in this...
‐ Oh, and there's this. ‐ Sabrina has a daughter?
You never mentioned that.
‐ Yeah, I didn't mention it because, like,
it's personal with her, you know what I'm saying?
She would break down and cry once in every while,
and she was like, "I miss her," and go crazy, bananas.
‐ Whoa. ‐ Did she say what happened?
‐ What I was told is the child was with the father
and she ran outside and‐‐
‐ And, like, got hit by a car or something?
‐ Something like that. Yeah. ‐ Yeah. I mean, it's horrible.
Like, the story that's she's telling you
about how her daughter died is horrible.
‐ It is, you know.
‐ I understand you not mentioning it
because you thought it's a personal thing.
‐ Touchy subject. ‐ Yeah, it is.
‐ Fine, but then this is where things got really interesting.
We did a Google search for one of the pictures
and it brought us to an Instagram account
for someone named Sabrina [bleep].
Different last name.
‐ You've never seen this account.
‐ No.
‐ But look.
Very recently, a picture of her daughter.
Very much alive.
‐ ♪♪ I got eyes in the walls ♪♪
♪♪ And they know what we did...♪♪
‐ That's [bleep]. That's [bleep].
This is like [bleep] my whole inside up.
‐ ♪♪ I can't hide...♪♪ ‐ That [bleep] [bleep] wild.
‐ Yeah. ‐ Super intense.
‐ Right. Is she using the death of this imaginary daughter
to make people feel bad for her
and then potentially get them to do things?
‐ I feel like you need to take a deep breath.
‐ Hell yeah. ‐ So now, I'm wondering,
because of the fact that she has been able
to manipulate you.
You said you've only given her‐‐
‐ Food money and [bleep]. And nail money too.
‐ Wait, so what‐‐so what else have you sent her money for?
‐ I only sent her money to clean the headstone.
‐ Clean a headstone? Hold on.
I think you guys seen that message, when‐‐
‐ No. ‐ No.
‐ I thought that was a different friend
who had passed. ‐ Oh, I‐‐
‐ No. ‐ Wait, so she said,
"I need some money
to help clean the headstone of my dead daughter."
‐ I never tried to bring up that situation
about her or her daughter, and I just left it at that,
thinking that her daughter was deceased.
‐ Well, and I don't blame you.
She posted a whole video with an "R. I. P"
and "I'm so sad, I miss you so much," I mean...
‐ That's crazy. ‐ Look, half of the story...
[phone chiming]
Who's this?
Hello.
‐ Hi.
‐ [whispering] Oh! It's her!
‐ Yeah, hi. Sabrina, this is Nev
from "Catfish."
‐ Is there any chance you could FaceTime, or...
‐ All right, yeah. Find a safe spot to pull over.
Hi.
‐ Hi.
‐ So we're helping a young guy from Phoenix who,
for a while now,
has been in a relationship with a girl named Sabrina.
She uses your pictures and your name.
She even uses photos of your daughter
and said that your daughter was deceased.
‐ Wow. ‐ Obviously,
contacting your kid's school is,
like‐‐if I was a mom, I would be like...
‐ "Who's calling?" ‐ Yes!
‐ Well, that's what we wanted, to make sure that's she's not.
‐ Right. Wow.
‐ So this is Joseph.
‐ Yo, how you doing? ‐ Hi.
‐ Hello. ‐ And I know this is awkward,
but I just want to confirm
that you guys have not been communicating.
‐ No.
‐ Yeah. No, it's all good. [bleep].
‐ So do you guys have any idea who it is?
‐ No. ‐ No, we actually thought
maybe you might have some idea.
‐ No idea. Let's see who it is.
Let's get to the bottom of it.
‐ Yeah, yeah. Well, if we figure
anything out, of course we'll let you know.
‐ Okay. ‐ All right.
Thank you so much, Sabrina.
‐ Bye. ‐ Bye, guys.
‐ All right, bye. ‐ Bye. Sorry.
‐ It's cool. ‐ I know, I'm sorry.
‐ Now, we need to decide what we want to do.
So the most direct path to the truth is to just call her.
‐ I want to get to the bottom.
Like, they shouldn't be doing that [bleep].
‐ Right. ‐ You know what I'm saying?
Like, that's crazy.
‐ I'm gonna go call her. I'll see what she says.
All right? I'll right back.
‐ The thing that I'm most upset about
is the fact that we can't figure‐‐
‐ The child. ‐ Well, yeah, that, obviously.
‐ That just makes me mad. Like, that‐‐
‐ It's disgusting. ‐ You lied about a child.
Like, that's crazy.
[line ringing]
‐ Yes, hi, is this Sabrina?
‐ Hey, I am a friend of Joseph, your boyfriend.
We're making an episode of my TV show, "Catfish."
Are you familiar with the show?
‐ So he now knows that you're not the girl
in the pictures that he's been looking at,
and also that the daughter‐‐
‐ But why do you think that? I mean...
[hang up beeping] ‐ I ruined everything?
All right, well, I spoke to her.
I was like, "Look, we do know
that Sabrina's this person and that's not you."
And she got upset, was like, "You ruined everything."
And then she hung up.
‐ Bitch, what? We ruined everything?
‐ Well, it actually gave me the sense
that she really does like you and care about you.
‐ But who the hell are you?
‐ Now that you know she's lying,
she just assumes, like, you're never gonna love her
and then it's over.
But I get the sense that you do still want to meet her.
‐ Yeah, I do.
‐ So I think you should text her and advocate
on your own behalf, and say, like, "Look..."
‐ "I still want to meet you." ‐ "I really"‐‐yeah.
Or whatever‐‐however you would say it.
You have a real poetic elegance
that I don't want to infringe upon.
‐ Don't go off on her, though. ‐ I won't.
‐ No, just make it‐‐right. ‐ You've got to try to
reel her in so we get the catfish.
‐ Yeah, you've got to smooth talk.
‐ Gotcha.
That's‐‐that's‐‐ that's crazy, man.
‐ Did you send it? ‐ Yeah, yeah.
‐ What'd you say? ‐ You send a message that fast?
‐ Yeah, yeah. both: What'd you say?
‐ I said call me.
I said, "Call me, shawty."
I said, "Call me, shawty. What you doing?"
you said do it how I do it. That's how I do it.
‐ Oh, my God...
‐ I just feel like she's not‐‐ [phone chimes]
She's emotional right now. Oh, what'd she say?
She wrote back? ‐ Yeah, she just messaged me.
‐ It worked. ‐ This is very fast.
‐ She's like, "I can't really talk to you right now."
‐ Okay, so she's emotional. So that's why we're saying,
give her something to think about.
Oh, whoa, she just wrote, "Stop playing.
"I really love you and I've put up with more
than any other woman would." So let me just‐‐let me just‐‐
‐ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do that, do that.
‐ "Look, I know [bleep] right now is crazy.
"Doesn't change what we have.
"Our friendship means a lot to me.
I would like to meet you. I'm ready to come to Denver."
‐ Oh, bro, this is crazy. This is too insane.
My palm's sweaty and my heart pounding like crazy.
[phone chimes]
‐ She wrote, "Do you really love me?"
[suspenseful music]
‐ [bleep] I have love for her, you know what I'm saying?
I do. But, like, this is just like [bleep] insane.
‐ Just say, "I'm willing to come and see you, aren't I?"
‐ "I'm down to fly across the country to see you."
‐ She said, "When?"
‐ Right now. ‐ Tomorrow a. m.
‐ Tomorrow.
‐ Oh, she said, "I don't know where I'll be tomorrow.
I'll let you know where to meet me when you get here."
All right, so that's...good.
That's, like, basically and invite.
‐ Yep. ‐ "Okay, that works."
All right. We got a date.
‐ We got a date. ‐ With mystery lady.
‐ Oh [bleep]. ‐ First thing tomorrow,
we're gonna get on a plane.
‐ Bright and early. ‐ Will do.
‐ See you in the morning. Let's get out of here.
‐ How's it going? ‐ Good morning.
Good morning to you.
‐ Literally the top of the morning.
‐ The top of the morning.
‐ She texted you back.
‐ All right. That's‐‐that's promising.
‐ ♪♪ The skies'll never let you go ♪♪
♪♪ It's all you've been looking for ♪♪
‐ There it is. ‐ ♪♪ And the minute ♪♪
♪♪ That you have to go...♪♪
‐ A little bit closer to the truth.
Closer and closer.
[phone chimes] Oh, you got a message?
‐ Yes. "You can meet me at...
‐ "West Ford Ave." both: in Denver."
‐ Okay.
[phone tune]
Who's that?
‐ Oh, that's my little sister.
Hey, what's up?
‐ On my way to find out what's really going on.
‐ we're on our way right now to meet the real girl,
but we did find out she's not the girl in the pictures.
‐ So he does owe you Cheesecake Factory.
‐ So I owe you Cheesecake Factory.
‐ All right, cool.
Well, I'm going check up with you when we're done.
‐ Thanks, Krystal. ‐ All right, thank you.
My emotions are up and down
and, like, my thoughts are, like, spinning.
Just like, "Why are you playing with my kindness?"
‐ I think you should just go on ahead and assume
that everything that she's ever told you is a lie.
‐ True.
‐ This is the park.
‐ I don't see anybody. ‐ That is weird.
What if that's her right there?
‐ Where? ‐ Between these trees?
‐ There is someone right there. ‐ Why is she hiding creepily
in the trees?
[suspenseful music]
‐ Let's see if we can get a closer look.
‐ [gasps] Oh! ‐ Is that her?
Should we go check it out? Okay.
♪♪ ♪♪
Oh, now she's walking away.
‐ What? Oh no.
‐ Maybe she's nervous. Come on.
I think that's her.
‐ Uh, 'scuse me. ‐ Hello, ma'am?
Hello?
‐ This is all you. ‐ All right, I got this.
Hello?
‐ This is all you. ‐ All right, I got this.
[suspenseful music]
Hello?
♪♪ ♪♪
You know me?
Hmm?
What's your name?
‐ Patricia. ‐ Patricia.
Cool.
So...
Why all this?
‐ Um...
It was never, like, with malicious intent.
It never was.
‐ But you still played with emotions and [bleep].
‐ I mean, I can't force you to believe it,
but the feelings really weren't a lie.
[tense music]
‐ Is that he only profile that you ever made in your life?
‐ Yep, and for you to believe it‐‐
Like I said, I'm not gonna force you to.
‐ But, like,
why'd you let a child into the situation
that wasn't even real?
I just want to know, why would‐‐why'd you do that?
‐ I did lose a kid myself. Little girl.
‐ So that's real? ‐ That's real.
I need a minute. I need a minute.
‐ Cool. Take a minute.
‐ Hey, sorry. We didn't‐‐ I didn't‐‐we wanted
to let you guys talk, but I don't want you to leave
before I get to say hello. ‐ Hi.
‐ What's your name? I'm sorry?
‐ Patricia. ‐ Patricia. This is Kamie.
‐ Hi. ‐ I'm Nev.
I understand this is emotional. It's a lot.
‐ Yeah.
‐ But don't walk away for a minute.
So, Patricia...
‐ Yes. You're from Denver.
‐ I am. Mm‐hmm. ‐ Okay, and how old are you?
‐ I'm 20.
‐ You're 20. ‐ Yes.
‐ So you‐‐okay.
And when did you start the Sabrina profile?
‐ Four years ago.
‐ Okay, so around the time that you met him
was when you first created the page.
‐ Right.
‐ Was there a reason initially, or‐‐
‐ I've always been, like, a bigger girl,
so I've been bullied all the way from the time
I entered school till almost till I got out.
So I was, like, a sophomore. And then there was this guy,
and he's like, "Hey, I think you're really beautiful."
And he had a plan for us to go to the movies.
And I was waiting and waiting and waiting,
and I finally get a text from him.
And he's like, "Hey, this was a joke.
It was a prank. It was a bet."
So that kind of just destroyed me.
I was like, "Why am I someone's laughingstock," you know?
That put me in a dark place.
I just wanted to be called, like, pretty.
So that's, then, when I had made that page.
‐ I mean, I totally understand initially doing it
just to kind of get some positive feedback.
But, at some point, did it become clear to you
that you could use the profile to lure men in
and then kind of get them to possibly do things?
‐ No. I'm not that type of person.
‐ But, at some point, you started asking for money.
‐ I never asked for money.
‐ Food and getting your nails done.
‐ He told us that he did send you some stuff.
‐ Yeah. ‐ Right?
‐ Okay, I understand that. ‐ Yeah, for food.
‐ You did. ‐ You just like used
my kindness and [bleep].
‐ I just don't know what to say.
‐ What about the cousin?
‐ Do you have other fake profiles?
‐ I just had those two. ‐ Wait, so the Sabrina one
and the cousin? ‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ So that's fake? ‐ Right.
‐ That was a fake profile as well?
‐ So that was you. ‐ Right.
I friend requested him because he was messaging,
flirting with other friends,
and there was other females on Instagram he was flirting with.
So I kind of needed to catch him in the act.
‐ Hard for you to justify... ‐ Right.
‐ As someone who's been lying to him.
‐ The whole time.
‐ It's a tough sort of case to make.
‐ Right. ‐ What I ever do to you
for you to impersonate and come back
as someone fake and [bleep] with my feelings?
‐ Actually, let me just start off by saying
I had a daughter April '15‐‐2015.
So I had her, and she was just not developed.
‐ She was premature. ‐ Right.
So we were sitting in the hospital,
so I made Sabrina's page,
because I was sitting there kind of, like, bored
and hoping my daughter would, you know, make a recovery.
So that gave me something to do.
‐ So wait a second. So you started the profile
while you were in the hospital...
‐ Right. ‐ With your daughter.
‐ Yes. Yeah. ‐ But you just told us
a different version of the story.
‐ So I had just went through this guy, like,
making me his laughingstock,
and I was in the hospital with my daughter,
[tearfully] trying to see if she has a fighting chance.
So we were in the hospital until December,
and they unhooked her from NICU.
She didn't live past three hours.
So that was, like, where it was getting deeper,
'Cause that's my child, you know?
[uneasy music]
♪♪ ♪♪
‐ Obviously, like, it's impossible
not to feel for you. We all feel for you.
But if this story is true,
and you're someone who has had a daughter who passed,
how can you fathom creating that scenario
for another woman and her child?
‐ I'm not making a pity story.
Like, all I can say is I'm sorry.
All the "I love you," that wasn't fake.
‐ I'm kind of done for the day. ‐ All right.
All right. Well, look, this is a big deal.
Would you be willing to meet us tomorrow and see what we can‐‐
‐ Come up tomorrow? ‐ Yeah.
‐ Okay. ‐ We'll speak to you soon.
‐ That was a lot.
‐ That was intense.
‐ You can't help but to feel for her,
because she's obviously been through a lot of [bleep]
for someone who's only 20 years old.
‐ True. ‐ But, at the same time,
it's hard to know how much of her story to believe.
‐ Her story, you know, is lies.
I just feel like it's a messed up story,
what happened with her daughter and stuff,
but, like, considering the lies,
and how do we know
that she wasn't just using that to get what she wants?
‐ And it sounded like, when you were over here
with her, she said she only had the one profile.
‐ Yeah. ‐ But then slowly,
it came out about the second one.
That makes me wonder, like, is she being completely honest?
‐ Right. I feel like everything's a lie.
Like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, who's the real you?
[knocking on door] ‐ Yep.
‐ Good morning.
[giggling]
‐ Check this out‐‐I found Patricia's real Facebook page.
She's a real person. She's got a real Facebook.
‐ Did you notice anything about her mentioning a baby?
‐ I don't know, I don't see anything but Let's scroll down.
Doesn't look like 2015 was a year spent
in the hospital with a sick kid who then passed away.
Look, I can't be the one to second‐guess whether or not
she really did have a premature child who then passed away
or if she told us to elicit sympathy.
‐ Yeah. ‐ I'm not gonna press her
on that. ‐ It's a touchy thing.
I would hope that she wouldn't make something like that up.
[knock on door] ‐ Right.
‐ Good morning. ‐ Good morning, good morning.
‐ How you feeling about everything?
‐ Kind of concerned about a lot because it's lie after lie,
and, like, who knows what lie is true and what lie isn't.
‐ Right. ‐ How am I supposed to trust
what you say? ‐ Right, I mean,
we just scrolled through her Facebook back into 2015,
and she looks pretty happy.
There's no mention of any great loss or tragedy.
‐ It's hard to not believe what she's saying.
‐ But it's also hard to believe her.
Until she's honest with us and herself,
there's only so much we can really get through to her.
All right, let's message her.
Okay, we can meet at a place called Neighbors.
‐ I felt like a lot of stuff is just, like, a lot of lies.
Really don't know what to believe.
[tense music]
Good afternoon. ‐ Hey.
‐ Here, have a seat here.
Hello again. How are you feeling?
‐ Actually, a got a text message last night
saying some nasty things. Do you mind if I‐‐
‐ "You're a [bleep] disgusting bitch for catfishing.
"Don't let me find out where you live
because you'll be done for, ho. [bleep] pig. [bleep]."
‐ What the [bleep]?
‐ How did this person get your number?
‐ That's what I'm trying to ask you.
It's a Phoenix number.
I don't know if it was maybe you.
‐ You thought that text could have come from...
‐ Yeah.
‐ Joseph? ‐ Yeah.
Him or, like, somebody he has told.
‐ No, I haven't told anybody, except my little sister.
Everybody thinks I'm at work. ‐ That's true.
How would they know? ‐ Yeah.
‐ How would they know it was you?
‐ I don't know. ‐ I find that [bleep] strange
as [bleep], though, 'cause, like...
‐ So do I. ‐ Can't you see who texted you?
What's the number?
‐ It's... ‐ 'Cause we can Spokeo it.
What's the area code of the number?
‐ 408. Phoenix. ‐ That's not a Phoenix number.
You probably thought it was a 480 number,
'cause 480 is a Phoenix number.
‐ Okay, yeah, so that's why I kind of connected it to him.
‐ But if it's a text app number,
then you can create any area code you want.
‐ Yeah, that's [bleep]. That's not‐‐definitely not me.
‐ Well, why don't we give you guys a minute to talk,
and then we can all said good‐bye for now.
‐ Okay.
What I would want, going forward,
is at least a friendship,
but, you know, that's entirely up to you,
'cause you had to go through it.
And I respect your decisions.
There is. But, at the same time,
like, I just don't know what to believe.
I don't know what to trust. ‐ Yeah.
I hope you will accept that.
[upbeat music]
‐ How'd it go?
‐ Yeah. You know... ‐ Yeah.
‐ All right. Well, look, I mean,
thank you for meeting us and doing the right thing here.
‐ Nice to meet you. ‐ I wish you the best.
‐ Have a good one. ‐ Thank you.
‐ ♪♪ Just let it go ♪♪
‐ All right. ‐ That's over.
‐ That's over with.
But that's crazy she got that message.
‐ I don't know.
I don't know what to believe. ‐ It could have been her
sending it to herself. ‐ That's what I'm saying.
'Cause, like... ‐ You know, you never know.
‐ I really‐‐that's crazy.
‐ Seems like she would be a cool girl
if she would just get honest with herself.
‐ The good news is... ‐ It's done and over with.
‐ That's done. You're free from the chains
of that relationship. ‐ Fresh start.
♪♪ ♪♪
‐ Hey. ‐ Yo.
‐ Oh wow, look at them fronts. ‐ That grill, son.
You look fresh. ‐ Thank you, thank you.
You guys look good too. ‐ Thanks.
‐ You guys look real good and healthy,
you know what I'm saying.
‐ What's going on, man? How are you?
‐ I'm actually doing good.
Just working and staying positive.
‐ Have you talked to Patricia since we filmed?
‐ I stay my distance from everything.
I ain't got no time to be trying to be friends
with somebody who's gonna fake every other little story
about anything, you know what I'm saying?
Been moving forward.
‐ I think the most important question I have for you:
have you taken your sister, Krystal,
to the Cheesecake Factory? ‐ Yes, I have, and...
‐ There we go. ‐ She loved it.
‐ The spinach dip is my favorite.
‐ Whenever you guys come down to Phoenix, let us know.
We'll all go get some cheesecake.
‐ For sure. For sure. All right, later, Joseph.
‐ Later.
‐ Hey. ‐ Patricia!
‐ Patricia. You look beautiful.
‐ Thank you. ‐ So what's going on with you?
‐ I have a girlfriend. ‐ Ooh, hey!
‐ In real life? ‐ Yeah.
‐ How long have you guys been dating?
‐ Wow. So the experience seems like it
brought a lot of perspective to you.
‐ Right. Right. ‐ Well that's exciting.
I'm happy to hear that. So hopefully means
you don't have any time for fake profiles.
‐ Right. Took them down.
No longer doing them. ‐ Good.
‐ Nice. I encourage you to be as honest with yourself
and the people close to you as you can be.
But it sounds like you're doing great‐‐I'm happy for you.
‐ Thank you. both: Bye.
‐ Bye.
‐ Akirra's boyfriend, William,
needs to discover the truth about who Jamie is.
‐ Did you love her? ‐ Yeah, I loved her.
‐ This is your transaction history.
Are you [bleep] kidding me? This is a lot of money.
‐ Akirra's upset. ‐ You okay?
‐ Bro, just get out of my [bleep] face. Just go.
‐ I think I see her. Jamie?
‐ Oh my [bleep] God.