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‐ Gemini has been talking
to Myranda
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for the past seven years.
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‐ I felt like she was the one.
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‐ Oh, my God.
It's her.
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‐ This is what
I've been saying!
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I'm not doing this.
‐ You gotta be kidding me.
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We can't let her
back on the show.
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Is there a chance
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that we could somehow have,
like, an intervention?
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She's here.
Hello, again.
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[tense music]
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[dramatic musical sting]
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‐ ♪♪ Happy Catfish Day to you ♪♪
‐ What?
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‐ It's been ten years since
you were the first person
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in the whole world
to be catfished.
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‐ That's right.
Wow.
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‐ Ten years of employment.
all: [laugh]
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‐ Make a wish.
[all cheering]
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‐ All right.
That was nice.
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So let's get into this.
All right.
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Oh, we got one.
Tatyanna.
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‐ ♪♪ Bad at sorrys ♪♪
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‐ "Dear Nev and Kamie,
my name is Tatyanna.
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I'm 19, and I'm a nursing
student from Houston, Texas."
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‐ H‐Town.
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‐ "Recently, I started dating
an amazing guy named Gemini.
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But don't worry, I've actually
met him in real life."
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Wait a second.
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‐ ♪♪ I feel so lucky when
you say that you love me ♪♪
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‐ "We've just gotten together,
and things are going well.
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"Gemini is sweet, loving,
charming, handsome guy,
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"and I'm hoping
this relationship
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"is going to work out.
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But there is one small issue,
his friend, Myranda."
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‐ ♪♪ I get mad ♪♪
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‐ "He met her
seven years ago online,
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and they've been talking
on and off ever since."
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‐ ♪♪ I push you away,
why do I do that ♪♪
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‐ "Myranda comes back into his
life every couple of months,
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causes some drama,
and then disappears."
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‐ ♪♪ I'm surprised
you haven't left me yet ♪♪
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‐ I'd actually call it toxic.
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‐ ♪♪ I hide things and say
things I can't take back ♪♪
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‐ "But she's helped him
through some rough times."
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‐ ♪♪ Away, why do I do that ♪♪
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‐ "Unfortunately, she's
never able to video chat
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or meet in person."
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‐ ♪♪ I'm surprised
you haven't left me yet ♪♪
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‐ "I'm not writing in as
a jealous person or anything.
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"But I don't like
that she's recently
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popped back up into his life
and is causing him stress."
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‐ ♪♪ Do you do that ♪♪
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‐ "I'm helping him reach out
to you guys,
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but I feel like he should
take it from here."
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‐ ♪♪ I get mad ♪♪
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‐ "Please help Gemini
get the answers he needs
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"so he can move on.
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Thank you, Tatyanna."
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‐ ♪♪ Surprised
you haven't left me yet ♪♪
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‐ Here's a real question.
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Do you think
Gemini is a Gemini?
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‐ If he's not,
then this is just a waste.
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‐ So let's call her and see
if she can patch us through.
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‐ Hey.
‐ Whoa, what's up, guys?
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Look at Gemini.
‐ I know.
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‐ Gemini's already just like‐‐
‐ He looks so excited.
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‐ Not happy.
both: [laugh]
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‐ We have
an important question.
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Are you a Gemini?
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‐ Yes, I am.
‐ Thank God.
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If you weren't a Gemini
and your name is Gemini,
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we wouldn't know what to do‐‐
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‐ Yeah, that would be weird.
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‐ How long
have you been dating?
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‐ Three weeks.
‐ Oh.
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‐ Oh, that's new.
‐ Wow.
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‐ Mm‐hmm.
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‐ Did you guys know
each other before that?
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‐ Nice.
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All right, so let's talk
a little bit about Myranda.
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Tell us about this girl
and the whole story.
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‐ Well, I met her around,
like‐‐like seven years ago.
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She was friends
with my friend Danielle.
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Her and Myranda used
to dance together,
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so that's how she added me.
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She gave me her number,
and we just started talking
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on the phone every day
like‐‐like high school people,
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falling asleep
on the phone and stuff.
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She came in my life,
like, in a rough time,
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so it was, like, easy for me
to gravitate towards her.
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‐ So right now,
there's no attract‐‐
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like, you're not
interested in her.
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‐ I was at first,
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but then she kind of
got real disrespectful.
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Like, she get mad
and I get cussed out,
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whole attitude,
whole nine yards.
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And I was just like,
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"You know, I can't talk
to you no more."
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‐ Where does Myranda live?
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‐ What?
‐ So close.
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Have you guys talked
about meeting up before?
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‐ For years, she just
made up a bunch of excuses,
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and then, she wouldn't
answer her phone calls,
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and just disappeared.
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‐ Tatyanna, in your email,
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you mentioned that
she popped up recently.
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‐ Yeah.
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‐ Yeah, she recently
popped up.
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And then her friend,
Danielle, was like,
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"You have to call Myranda."
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I was like,
"Call her for what?"
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So I text,
and then we started talking,
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and it was crazy.
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She don't never
have an explanation
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why she disappeared.
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‐ And you don't think
this girl, Danielle,
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has something to do
with all of this?
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‐ No, no.
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‐ Wait, have you met
Danielle face‐to‐face?
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‐ Yes.
‐ Okay, so you'd know‐‐
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‐ I've been to video shoots
and stuff like that.
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‐ Okay.
‐ We sat down and talked.
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‐ Tatyanna, I can understand
why even though
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your relationship is new,
you see this as an important
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thing that Gemini finally
find out who she really is.
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‐ Like something's
just not adding up.
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I just think he should try to
move on from this situation.
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‐ All right, well, look.
You've gotta meet this girl.
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It's just so you can move on,
and hopefully she can move on,
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and you guys can stop popping
up in each other's lives and‐‐
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‐ I'm down just because
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I wanna breathe the same air
as Beyoncé, so‐‐
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‐ Oh, yeah.
‐ I'm coming to Houston.
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‐ All right.
‐ Period.
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‐ So we'll come to Houston.
We'll see you guys really soon.
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Okay?
‐ See you soon.
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‐ Bye, guys.
‐ Bye.
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both: Bye.
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‐ I just think it's strange
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that their only mutual friend
is Danielle.
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‐ I think Danielle's
getting catfished too,
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and that she's‐‐
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‐ But they've danced together.
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‐ We should probably get
in touch with Danielle.
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‐ Yeah.
‐ So let's get down to Houston.
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Make sure you bring
your hot sauce.
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‐ I have hot sauce in my bag.
‐ Swag.
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‐ [laughs]
‐ Let's go.
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‐ Oh, my God.
I'm so proud of you.
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I did not think you were
gonna get that part.
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‐ ♪♪ Hanging with
my crew tonight ♪♪
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♪♪ Now give me one last break ♪♪
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♪♪ You got whoo‐hoo‐hoo ♪♪
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‐ H‐Town.
‐ Gemini.
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‐ Do you know what
they say about Geminis?
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There are two sides to them.
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There's the side that he's
showing us in front of Tatyanna
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and there's the side that's
been talking to Myranda.
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And I feel like there's more
to the story here.
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‐ There it is.
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‐ ♪♪ Whoo‐hoo,
hoo, ooh, ooh ♪♪
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♪♪ Tell me that we can ♪♪
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‐ Hey, ho.
‐ Hi.
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‐ Hello, Tatyanna.
‐ Hi.
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‐ So glad I caught you guys.
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I'm on my way to work,
but it's nice to see you guys.
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I wanted to stop and say hi
to you guys before I left.
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‐ By this time tomorrow,
we should have a lot more info.
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‐ Yes.
‐ Well, see you.
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Have a good day.
‐ Mm‐hmm.
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‐ Whoo.
‐ [sighs]
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So how's it going
with Tatyanna?
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I mean, like,
it's still pretty new.
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I mean‐‐
‐ It's still new.
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We still trying
to figure each other out.
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Like, she got to get used to
dealing with me being a Gemini.
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'Cause my mood switch up quick.
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As soon as it switch up,
it's 1,000 questions.
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"What's wrong?
What's wrong?"
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Like, she had a moment
she started crying.
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"You gonna leave me for her."
I was like, "No, I'm not.
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"I had seven years
to try to be with her.
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I'm not gonna
leave you for her."
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‐ So, okay, so‐‐so take us back
about how you met Myranda
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and how we got
to where we are now.
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‐ All right, I had a‐‐
it was just a normal day.
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I just woke up and I was
just posting a status.
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"Why do tall girls wear heels?
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What y'all trying to do,
whisper to God?"
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She commented on it, and then
we just started talking.
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I just needed somebody
to talk to.
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I opened up more.
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She helped me,
like, keep my mind.
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Like, I almost
committed suicide.
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Like, that's how bad it was.
‐ Wow.
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‐ She was somebody
I could run and talk to.
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That's pretty much why
I kept going back to her.
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[solemn music]
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‐ So your relationship
with Myranda
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is a really meaningful, very
emotional part of your life.
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And she's always been there,
and helped you out,
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and kept you, you know,
looking forward and positive.
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‐ Yeah.
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‐ To me, the most
interesting part of the story
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is your friend, Danielle.
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‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ Who you met in real life.
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‐ Mm‐hmm.
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‐ Who's also friends
with Myranda.
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Has Danielle ever met Myranda?
‐ Mm‐hmm.
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They used to dance together.
‐ Okay‐‐
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‐ Do they have photos together
or anything like that?
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‐ No.
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‐ When you saw Danielle,
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did you ask her
about Myranda in person?
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‐ At that time,
Myranda was disappeared,
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so‐‐and she didn't come up
in that conversation.
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‐ So there's no guarantee that
this Danielle on Facebook
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is the same Danielle
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that you've talked to
in real life, in person.
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‐ Like, I don't know.
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‐ Can I see some
of the messages
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that you and Myranda
write to each other?
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[tense music]
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Oh, this is when she started
talking to you again.
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‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ Okay.
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So this is from,
like, a week ago.
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You said, "I love you so much,
I hate you."
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Then she said, "I love you
so much that I hate you" also.
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‐ This is a very
Gemini conversation.
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Only Geminis say
[bleep] like that.
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‐ Then you both said
I love you.
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"Call me...send a picture."
‐ Oh, she's cute.
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‐ Oh, she's really cute.
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And you guys got
into another argument.
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You guys, like, argue a lot.
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She says, "I care for you
in a deep, romantic way.
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I passionately care for you."
I don't wanna hurt you.
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I mean, I don't know.
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It looks like you definitely
have feelings for her.
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‐ Yeah, as a friend,
but I don't have‐‐
242
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‐ Mm, I don't know about that.
‐ This is a lot‐‐
243
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I said a lot of hurtful
things in there.
244
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‐ I know, but you also
245
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say a lot of very sweet,
romantic things in there.
246
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I understand it's
like a love‐hate.
247
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‐ Yeah.
‐ And that's obvious.
248
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But there's a lot
of love there still.
249
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‐ Yeah, it's still there
250
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because I've been holding onto
that, like, for seven years.
251
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‐ Right.
‐ So it's like‐‐I don't know.
252
00:09:02,135 --> 00:09:04,237
I probably do have‐‐still
have feelings for her,
253
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but it's not strong enough
for me to push Tatyanna away.
254
00:09:08,675 --> 00:09:10,076
‐ Does Tatyanna know
about that?
255
00:09:10,143 --> 00:09:12,212
‐ No.
I didn't tell her that part.
256
00:09:12,278 --> 00:09:13,479
‐ Mm‐hmm.
257
00:09:13,547 --> 00:09:14,948
‐ I understand why
Tatyanna's concerned.
258
00:09:15,015 --> 00:09:16,482
You've got a long history
with this girl.
259
00:09:16,550 --> 00:09:18,985
It's a tough situation for you.
We gotta figure this out.
260
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So send us an email
with any phone numbers,
261
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Facebook pages, and hopefully
we'll find something.
262
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And we'll report back.
‐ Okay.
263
00:09:25,526 --> 00:09:26,492
‐ We got work to do.
‐ Yeah.
264
00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:28,795
‐ Oh, boy.
‐ [laughs]
265
00:09:28,862 --> 00:09:31,497
See you tomorrow.
266
00:09:31,565 --> 00:09:33,333
Ay‐yi‐yi.
267
00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:36,002
[tense music]
268
00:09:36,069 --> 00:09:38,271
‐ There's always more.
‐ Always.
269
00:09:38,338 --> 00:09:39,573
♪♪ ♪♪
270
00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,307
‐ I believe that
he really like Tatyanna,
271
00:09:41,374 --> 00:09:47,714
but there's no way if Myranda
somehow shows up, and‐‐
272
00:09:47,781 --> 00:09:48,915
‐ Is who she says she is.
273
00:09:48,982 --> 00:09:50,016
‐ Well, and that's not gonna be
274
00:09:50,083 --> 00:09:51,685
a very difficult decision
for him.
275
00:09:51,752 --> 00:09:53,520
‐ He has so much history
with Myranda.
276
00:09:53,587 --> 00:09:54,988
‐ Right.
277
00:09:55,055 --> 00:09:57,257
‐ And he's not really
letting on, I don't think,
278
00:09:57,323 --> 00:10:00,393
how much he truly loves
and cares about her.
279
00:10:00,460 --> 00:10:03,236
‐ What I think he's trying
to convince himself of
280
00:10:03,303 --> 00:10:06,039
is that he's not still
romantically interested in her.
281
00:10:06,106 --> 00:10:08,108
‐ Right.
I'm not buying it.
282
00:10:08,174 --> 00:10:10,176
♪♪ ♪♪
283
00:10:23,489 --> 00:10:25,091
‐ ♪♪ We're A‐OK
no matter what they say ♪♪
284
00:10:25,158 --> 00:10:26,993
♪♪ We're A‐OK ♪♪
285
00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:29,696
♪♪ ♪♪
286
00:10:29,763 --> 00:10:31,598
♪♪ We're A‐OK ♪♪
287
00:10:31,665 --> 00:10:35,869
‐ Let's do it.
So let's just recap here.
288
00:10:35,936 --> 00:10:38,639
Gemini has been talking
to Myranda for seven years.
289
00:10:38,705 --> 00:10:40,607
Myranda's sort of
very hot a cold.
290
00:10:40,674 --> 00:10:42,242
She gets mad at him
291
00:10:42,308 --> 00:10:45,411
when he tries to say things
about meeting up or FaceTiming.
292
00:10:45,478 --> 00:10:49,049
So he's now met and involved
with a beautiful, young woman,
293
00:10:49,115 --> 00:10:51,852
Tatyanna, who he really likes
and wants to be with.
294
00:10:51,918 --> 00:10:53,119
So he's trying to decide,
295
00:10:53,186 --> 00:10:56,089
is this the time to move on,
or meet Myranda
296
00:10:56,156 --> 00:10:58,491
and see if there's actually
a place for her in his future?
297
00:10:58,559 --> 00:10:59,926
‐ Right.
We gonna see.
298
00:10:59,993 --> 00:11:02,736
‐ All right, so let's see
what we got here.
299
00:11:02,803 --> 00:11:04,638
"Hey Nev and Kamie, here are
all the Facebook accounts
300
00:11:04,705 --> 00:11:06,039
"I have for the girls.
301
00:11:06,106 --> 00:11:08,809
"Myranda's page,
Danielle's page.
302
00:11:08,875 --> 00:11:10,110
"And here's
the phone numbers I have.
303
00:11:10,176 --> 00:11:11,878
Can't wait to hear
what you dig up."
304
00:11:11,945 --> 00:11:13,947
All right, so I think we should
just start with Danielle
305
00:11:14,014 --> 00:11:16,382
'cause Danielle
apparently knows Gemini.
306
00:11:16,449 --> 00:11:17,951
They've met before.
307
00:11:18,018 --> 00:11:21,788
And she claims that she's met
and is friends with Myranda.
308
00:11:21,855 --> 00:11:23,924
‐ Right, but
is the real Danielle
309
00:11:23,990 --> 00:11:25,592
the person he's been
talking to on Facebook?
310
00:11:25,659 --> 00:11:27,861
Or is she a completely
different person?
311
00:11:27,928 --> 00:11:30,430
‐ Right, so is this
actually her Facebook page?
312
00:11:30,496 --> 00:11:31,932
‐ "Jill of All Trades."
313
00:11:31,998 --> 00:11:33,333
‐ Right, she's
a party promoter,
314
00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:34,500
she's a former model.
315
00:11:34,568 --> 00:11:36,269
‐ She's a former model
at "Model,"
316
00:11:36,336 --> 00:11:38,572
which is very convincing.
317
00:11:38,639 --> 00:11:40,006
[laughs]
318
00:11:40,073 --> 00:11:41,708
‐ You think we should see
if this is a fake page?
319
00:11:41,775 --> 00:11:43,844
Like, search the photos?
‐ Yeah.
320
00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:46,713
‐ All right.
Wait, whoa, here we go.
321
00:11:46,780 --> 00:11:49,816
We got a hit.
both: Danii Banks.
322
00:11:49,883 --> 00:11:53,587
‐ Okay, so this is
her Instagram.
323
00:11:53,654 --> 00:11:55,155
Verified.
‐ 2 million‐‐
324
00:11:55,221 --> 00:11:57,891
‐ 2.6 million followers.
‐ Oh, God.
325
00:11:57,958 --> 00:12:00,400
‐ Wow, this must be
a real girl.
326
00:12:00,466 --> 00:12:01,568
‐ Yeah.
327
00:12:01,635 --> 00:12:03,069
‐ Let's send her a message.
"Hey, Danii.
328
00:12:03,136 --> 00:12:06,673
Someone is pretending
to be you."
329
00:12:06,740 --> 00:12:07,974
Boom.
All right.
330
00:12:08,041 --> 00:12:10,010
So we sent the real
Danii Banks a message.
331
00:12:10,076 --> 00:12:12,045
All right, so now,
let's just run the photos.
332
00:12:12,112 --> 00:12:13,413
‐ For Myranda?
‐ Myranda.
333
00:12:13,479 --> 00:12:14,615
[eerie music]
334
00:12:14,681 --> 00:12:17,283
Let's see if there's a hit.
‐ Nope.
335
00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:18,519
‐ Nope.
336
00:12:18,585 --> 00:12:22,388
♪♪ ♪♪
337
00:12:22,455 --> 00:12:23,524
‐ Nope.
338
00:12:23,590 --> 00:12:24,558
[phone ringing]
339
00:12:24,625 --> 00:12:25,759
both: Oh!
‐ FaceTime.
340
00:12:25,826 --> 00:12:26,760
‐ Wow.
‐ This must be Danii.
341
00:12:26,827 --> 00:12:27,961
I love it.
I love it.
342
00:12:28,028 --> 00:12:30,363
This girl knows what's up.
both: Hey.
343
00:12:30,430 --> 00:12:33,033
‐ Hi, I can't believe
it's really you.
344
00:12:33,099 --> 00:12:35,001
‐ [laughs]
‐ So what's going on?
345
00:12:35,068 --> 00:12:39,039
‐ We're trying to help this
guy in Texas named Gemini.
346
00:12:39,105 --> 00:12:42,676
Gemini thinks he's been friends
with you for a long time.
347
00:12:42,743 --> 00:12:44,578
I guess primarily
through Facebook.
348
00:12:44,645 --> 00:12:47,548
‐ Here's the problem.
I don't have Facebook.
349
00:12:47,614 --> 00:12:50,884
‐ Okay, and you don't know
anyone named Gemini in Houston?
350
00:12:50,951 --> 00:12:52,619
‐ No.
[laughs]
351
00:12:52,686 --> 00:12:54,154
‐ Wait a second.
352
00:12:54,220 --> 00:12:57,691
What I don't understand is
he claims to also have met you
353
00:12:57,758 --> 00:13:01,635
because, I guess, you've gone
to‐‐you've done some video‐‐
354
00:13:01,702 --> 00:13:02,969
‐ Music videos?
355
00:13:03,036 --> 00:13:04,805
‐ Music videos, I guess,
or have you been to Houston
356
00:13:04,871 --> 00:13:06,339
on some work stuff, or‐‐
357
00:13:06,406 --> 00:13:09,209
‐ Yes, I have been to Houston
for a music video.
358
00:13:09,275 --> 00:13:11,912
‐ He was under the impression
that you knew who he was.
359
00:13:11,978 --> 00:13:13,514
‐ No.
[laughs]
360
00:13:13,580 --> 00:13:15,616
‐ Okay, well‐‐
361
00:13:15,682 --> 00:13:17,283
You guys probably
spoke briefly,
362
00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:19,920
but you probably didn't know
who he actually was.
363
00:13:19,986 --> 00:13:21,187
But he was being friendly,
364
00:13:21,254 --> 00:13:23,990
and you were probably
just talking back?
365
00:13:24,057 --> 00:13:26,159
‐ That makes perfect sense.
366
00:13:26,226 --> 00:13:27,961
‐ Right.
‐ It's all strange.
367
00:13:28,028 --> 00:13:29,830
‐ [laughs]
‐ It's all strange.
368
00:13:29,896 --> 00:13:31,865
‐ Well, yeah, it's not me,
369
00:13:31,932 --> 00:13:34,167
so I feel bad that
that's happening to him.
370
00:13:34,234 --> 00:13:36,069
‐ It's good he's getting
some answers finally.
371
00:13:36,136 --> 00:13:37,771
Thanks Danii.
‐ Bye.
372
00:13:37,838 --> 00:13:39,973
‐ Bye.
‐ Bye.
373
00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,808
He said his name,
and she was like,
374
00:13:41,875 --> 00:13:43,143
"Oh, okay.
You're at this shoot.
375
00:13:43,209 --> 00:13:45,912
You must‐‐maybe
I met you yest‐‐I don't..."
376
00:13:45,979 --> 00:13:48,014
Like she has
no [bleep] idea who he is.
377
00:13:48,081 --> 00:13:50,917
‐ No, he's like, "Gemini,"
and she's like, "Oh."
378
00:13:50,984 --> 00:13:53,687
Nobody is cross‐pollinating
these conversations.
379
00:13:53,754 --> 00:13:55,088
This is the problem.
380
00:13:55,155 --> 00:13:57,423
‐ Okay, so let's just take
Myranda's phone number
381
00:13:57,490 --> 00:13:59,159
and see what comes up.
382
00:14:01,001 --> 00:14:03,136
[bleep] Taylor.
383
00:14:05,506 --> 00:14:09,209
‐ Wait, is [bleep] Taylor
not the same name as
384
00:14:09,275 --> 00:14:11,678
Ashley Taylor's grandmother
that died?
385
00:14:11,745 --> 00:14:15,549
Is that not the same person?
Bock‐bock bitch, Ashley Taylor?
386
00:14:15,616 --> 00:14:16,783
‐ Oh, my God.
387
00:14:17,518 --> 00:14:19,820
‐ Why she gotta be a bird?
‐ Well, bock‐bock bitch.
388
00:14:19,886 --> 00:14:21,087
‐ Bock bitch?
389
00:14:21,154 --> 00:14:23,289
‐ If I have
to see this girl again,
390
00:14:23,356 --> 00:14:25,358
I swear on everything,
I'm quitting.
391
00:14:25,425 --> 00:14:27,994
‐ It‐‐it could be!
‐ She's from Texas.
392
00:14:28,061 --> 00:14:30,531
Look it up.
‐ Oh, my God.
393
00:14:30,597 --> 00:14:31,965
‐ You guys.
394
00:14:32,032 --> 00:14:35,135
‐ I think I have
everyone's numbers in here.
395
00:14:35,201 --> 00:14:37,303
Wait.
396
00:14:37,370 --> 00:14:38,939
‐ This is what
I've been saying!
397
00:14:39,005 --> 00:14:41,942
This is what I said.
I told you.
398
00:14:42,008 --> 00:14:45,011
How could you forget?
How could you forget?
399
00:14:45,078 --> 00:14:47,347
I'm not doing this.
Good‐bye.
400
00:14:47,413 --> 00:14:49,883
Goodbye, everyone.
It's been nice.
401
00:14:49,950 --> 00:14:51,618
[laughs]
But I'm not [bleep] doing it.
402
00:14:51,685 --> 00:14:53,053
‐ [laughs]
You gotta be kidding me.
403
00:14:53,119 --> 00:14:57,290
‐ I told you.
‐ It's the same number.
404
00:14:57,357 --> 00:15:00,627
I can't believe it.
Wow.
405
00:15:00,694 --> 00:15:02,769
‐ She needs help.
‐ Right.
406
00:15:02,836 --> 00:15:04,571
It's her.
I can't believe it's her.
407
00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,874
‐ Are you kidding me?
408
00:15:07,941 --> 00:15:11,011
‐ She told me
she was gonna try and stop.
409
00:15:11,077 --> 00:15:12,579
‐ She said
she was addicted, Nev.
410
00:15:12,646 --> 00:15:15,081
‐ She lied to me.
‐ [laughs]
411
00:15:15,148 --> 00:15:16,249
‐ Well, so what do we do?
412
00:15:16,316 --> 00:15:18,018
'Cause this is
a real thing for Gemini.
413
00:15:18,084 --> 00:15:19,520
Gemini should meet her
414
00:15:19,586 --> 00:15:22,488
so that he can move on
for his own sake.
415
00:15:22,556 --> 00:15:25,091
‐ How am I supposed to move on?
[laughs]
416
00:15:25,158 --> 00:15:26,326
‐ Is there a way to do that
417
00:15:26,392 --> 00:15:29,229
without giving her
the stage again?
418
00:15:29,295 --> 00:15:31,765
‐ We lure her in.
‐ Right.
419
00:15:31,832 --> 00:15:33,233
‐ Boom.
Intervention.
420
00:15:33,299 --> 00:15:35,636
‐ Yes, and we should
find some people in her life
421
00:15:35,702 --> 00:15:37,971
that we could gather together
422
00:15:38,038 --> 00:15:41,875
who might be able
to actually get through to her.
423
00:15:41,942 --> 00:15:46,079
Let's go to Gemini
and show him who that is.
424
00:15:46,146 --> 00:15:48,348
And then we'll figure out
what we should do after that.
425
00:15:48,414 --> 00:15:51,284
Our work is not
done here, Kamie.
426
00:15:51,351 --> 00:15:53,253
‐ You get to tell him.
‐ Fine.
427
00:15:53,319 --> 00:15:55,355
‐ 'Cause I can't tell him
without any bias.
428
00:15:55,421 --> 00:15:56,623
‐ Ay‐yi‐yi.
429
00:15:56,690 --> 00:15:58,124
‐ Gemini's in
for a real treat.
430
00:16:02,669 --> 00:16:05,772
‐ ♪♪ Guess who's back ♪♪
‐ Yeah, Shady is back.
431
00:16:05,839 --> 00:16:07,974
There needs to be
some kind of support group
432
00:16:08,041 --> 00:16:12,178
for people whose lives
have been affected.
433
00:16:12,245 --> 00:16:16,482
We have to think of the best
way to convince her to stop.
434
00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:20,020
She's been doing this
for 12 years of her life.
435
00:16:20,086 --> 00:16:22,288
‐ Okay.
Here we are.
436
00:16:22,355 --> 00:16:24,257
[ambient music]
437
00:16:24,324 --> 00:16:25,391
‐ [sighs]
438
00:16:29,095 --> 00:16:31,297
‐ Oh.
all: Hello.
439
00:16:31,364 --> 00:16:33,333
‐ How are you guys doing?
‐ Good.
440
00:16:36,402 --> 00:16:37,938
‐ All right, well,
I think we can explain
441
00:16:38,004 --> 00:16:40,006
and answer a lot
of what's going on here.
442
00:16:40,073 --> 00:16:44,945
‐ Okay.
‐ So buckle up.
443
00:16:45,011 --> 00:16:47,380
So the first thing
we looked at is Danielle.
444
00:16:47,447 --> 00:16:48,849
We ran this image,
445
00:16:48,915 --> 00:16:51,985
and it brought us
to an Instagram account.
446
00:16:52,052 --> 00:16:55,689
And it's a verified page
for someone named Danii Banks.
447
00:16:55,756 --> 00:16:57,090
‐ [laughs]
Hmm.
448
00:16:57,157 --> 00:16:59,292
‐ So she FaceTimed us,
and I explained the situation,
449
00:16:59,359 --> 00:17:02,035
and she said,
"Okay, well, first of all,
450
00:17:02,102 --> 00:17:05,005
I don't use Facebook."
451
00:17:05,071 --> 00:17:06,807
And she doesn't know
who you are.
452
00:17:06,873 --> 00:17:08,274
[tense music]
453
00:17:08,341 --> 00:17:10,544
‐ Oh, well, I saw
what I saw, so‐‐
454
00:17:10,611 --> 00:17:12,579
‐ Well, right, but‐‐well,
so maybe you were at a shoot,
455
00:17:12,646 --> 00:17:14,915
so she just figured like she
should either know who you were
456
00:17:14,981 --> 00:17:16,583
or maybe met you before,
and forgot who you‐‐
457
00:17:16,650 --> 00:17:18,051
Like, I think you kind of
458
00:17:18,118 --> 00:17:22,488
interpreted that interaction
in a way that helps support
459
00:17:22,556 --> 00:17:25,125
the possibility that you'd been
talking to her all this time.
460
00:17:25,191 --> 00:17:27,327
‐ That's crazy.
‐ Right.
461
00:17:27,393 --> 00:17:28,895
So that all just sort of
brings us back to,
462
00:17:28,962 --> 00:17:30,330
okay, who's Myranda?
463
00:17:30,396 --> 00:17:31,732
‐ Okay.
464
00:17:31,798 --> 00:17:34,200
‐ I'm gonna play a clip for you
of a phone call we made
465
00:17:34,267 --> 00:17:37,938
on an earlier episode of
"Catfish" from this season.
466
00:17:38,004 --> 00:17:39,372
‐ Okay.
467
00:17:39,439 --> 00:17:43,376
‐ And if the voice is
the same voice as Myranda...
468
00:17:43,443 --> 00:17:44,545
‐ Mm‐hmm.
469
00:17:44,611 --> 00:17:47,213
‐ Then I think
we have our answer.
470
00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,448
All right?
‐ Yeah.
471
00:17:48,515 --> 00:17:52,586
‐ Hello?
‐ Hi, is this Jalissa?
472
00:17:52,653 --> 00:17:53,920
‐ It's her.
473
00:17:53,987 --> 00:17:55,856
‐ Hi, Jalissa.
How you doing?
474
00:17:55,922 --> 00:17:57,223
I don't know
475
00:17:57,290 --> 00:17:58,859
if you're familiar
with the show "Catfish."
476
00:17:58,925 --> 00:18:00,460
I'm the guy on the show.
477
00:18:00,527 --> 00:18:04,905
I'm trying to help
your friend, Red, meet you.
478
00:18:04,971 --> 00:18:07,774
‐ I'm not sure about meeting
because I'm not in LA‐‐
479
00:18:07,841 --> 00:18:09,375
‐ Ooh.
‐ Anymore.
480
00:18:09,442 --> 00:18:11,377
‐ So you were in LA.
‐ That's her.
481
00:18:11,444 --> 00:18:12,913
‐ I was in LA working,
but I‐‐
482
00:18:12,979 --> 00:18:14,648
‐ It sounds like her.
‐ Yes.
483
00:18:14,715 --> 00:18:16,950
‐ You for sure, you're sure‐‐
‐ I'm for sure.
484
00:18:17,017 --> 00:18:18,251
[somber music]
485
00:18:18,318 --> 00:18:20,521
I knew that it was so off.
486
00:18:23,089 --> 00:18:27,160
Aw, man.
This is weird.
487
00:18:27,227 --> 00:18:28,929
Why do I feel like
this is a dude?
488
00:18:28,995 --> 00:18:30,631
‐ Oh, no.
489
00:18:30,697 --> 00:18:32,165
‐ No.
Let me show you.
490
00:18:32,232 --> 00:18:35,435
‐ Wait.
Let's bring it up.
491
00:18:35,502 --> 00:18:38,171
‐ That's her?
‐ That's her.
492
00:18:38,238 --> 00:18:40,273
‐ This is some‐‐
‐ Okay, I'm gonna talk to you.
493
00:18:40,340 --> 00:18:41,141
‐ Okay.
494
00:18:41,207 --> 00:18:42,442
‐ [inhales]
Oh.
495
00:18:42,509 --> 00:18:43,944
‐ That's her.
496
00:18:44,010 --> 00:18:45,646
Oh, I feel your pain, Red.
497
00:18:45,712 --> 00:18:47,681
‐ 3,000 profiles?
498
00:18:47,748 --> 00:18:49,315
‐ Three, comma...
499
00:18:49,382 --> 00:18:51,251
‐ [mouthing along]
‐ ...zero, zero, zero.
500
00:18:51,317 --> 00:18:55,455
‐ Who does that?
‐ Ashley Taylor does that.
501
00:18:55,522 --> 00:18:57,090
‐ Aw.
502
00:18:57,157 --> 00:18:59,259
‐ Anyway, so she's done‐‐she‐‐
503
00:18:59,325 --> 00:19:02,068
the same thing with Red
that she's done with you.
504
00:19:02,135 --> 00:19:03,670
So now we're trying
to figure out what to do.
505
00:19:03,737 --> 00:19:04,971
[tense music]
506
00:19:05,038 --> 00:19:07,508
‐ Man, this is horrible.
507
00:19:07,574 --> 00:19:11,645
‐ 3,000 profiles, she has.
‐ Right, that's disgusting.
508
00:19:11,712 --> 00:19:13,179
‐ What's so frustrating
about her is
509
00:19:13,246 --> 00:19:15,816
she's not doing this
because she wants friends.
510
00:19:15,882 --> 00:19:18,418
‐ She doing it 'cause‐‐just
to get a kick out of people.
511
00:19:18,484 --> 00:19:19,853
both: Right.
512
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,688
‐ Play with people's emotions.
‐ It's just fun for her.
513
00:19:21,755 --> 00:19:23,557
‐ Which is [bleep] up,
especially considering
514
00:19:23,624 --> 00:19:26,126
everything that you've been
through, that's not cool.
515
00:19:26,192 --> 00:19:27,561
And she needs
to understand that there
516
00:19:27,628 --> 00:19:30,330
can be serious consequences
for that kind of [bleep].
517
00:19:30,396 --> 00:19:33,099
‐ Yeah, I like‐‐I just
put my trust into her.
518
00:19:33,166 --> 00:19:34,300
Yeah, she was always there
519
00:19:34,367 --> 00:19:37,003
to, like, help me
through some situations.
520
00:19:37,070 --> 00:19:40,674
That's crazy.
Wow.
521
00:19:40,741 --> 00:19:42,142
‐ I mean, look.
522
00:19:42,208 --> 00:19:46,446
Is there a chance that
collectively between you, us,
523
00:19:46,513 --> 00:19:50,016
possibly also Red,
the girl from that episode,
524
00:19:50,083 --> 00:19:53,053
and maybe some other
close friends of Ashley's
525
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,320
could have, like,
an intervention
526
00:19:54,387 --> 00:19:56,156
where we call her out
on her [bleep]?
527
00:19:56,222 --> 00:19:57,423
‐ Yeah, she
definitely need that.
528
00:19:57,490 --> 00:19:58,759
‐ Right.
529
00:19:58,825 --> 00:20:00,493
‐ 'Cause if it's just us,
she's gonna think this is
530
00:20:00,561 --> 00:20:02,669
just a part of her little game
and her little scheme.
531
00:20:02,736 --> 00:20:04,237
She's not gonna take it
as seriously,
532
00:20:04,304 --> 00:20:06,139
but if it's people that
she actually knows,
533
00:20:06,206 --> 00:20:08,374
maybe that'll
convince her to stop.
534
00:20:08,441 --> 00:20:10,577
‐ And I think that
it's good for you
535
00:20:10,644 --> 00:20:13,479
to close the door on this
for good,
536
00:20:13,547 --> 00:20:17,217
and tell her it's over, please
don't ever contact me again,
537
00:20:17,283 --> 00:20:19,085
or whatever it is
you wanna say.
538
00:20:19,152 --> 00:20:20,687
‐ Okay, that's fine.
539
00:20:20,754 --> 00:20:22,055
‐ What we need to do right now
540
00:20:22,122 --> 00:20:23,757
is find some people who
actually know her better.
541
00:20:23,824 --> 00:20:25,158
‐ Mm‐hmm.
542
00:20:25,225 --> 00:20:27,427
‐ Let's see if we can find
her real Facebook.
543
00:20:27,493 --> 00:20:30,463
Hey, I got it.
There she is.
544
00:20:30,531 --> 00:20:33,033
There's your girlfriend.
‐ Ain't my girlfriend.
545
00:20:33,099 --> 00:20:34,635
‐ Someone posted
a couple days ago.
546
00:20:34,701 --> 00:20:35,936
"Can you call me, please?
547
00:20:36,002 --> 00:20:37,470
I've been trying
to reach you all week."
548
00:20:37,538 --> 00:20:40,040
‐ Tomekualynn?
‐ All right, let's message her.
549
00:20:40,106 --> 00:20:41,575
"Hey, Tomekualynn.
550
00:20:41,642 --> 00:20:43,877
"Your friend, Ashley, was
recently on my show, 'Catfish.'
551
00:20:43,944 --> 00:20:46,246
"Well, believe it or not,
we are filming a new episode,
552
00:20:46,312 --> 00:20:48,481
"and just discovered that
Ashley is catfishing again,
553
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:50,450
"so we're trying to find a way
to help her stop.
554
00:20:50,517 --> 00:20:52,085
"If you're interested
in being a part of this,
555
00:20:52,152 --> 00:20:53,419
please let me know ASAP."
556
00:20:53,486 --> 00:20:55,689
‐ Does she have
family, though?
557
00:20:55,756 --> 00:20:57,824
‐ No, there's nothing there.
Is there anything in the‐‐
558
00:20:57,891 --> 00:20:59,025
[phone ringing]
559
00:20:59,092 --> 00:21:01,635
Oh, that was fast.
‐ Oh, who is that?
560
00:21:01,702 --> 00:21:02,803
‐ Hello?
561
00:21:02,869 --> 00:21:03,804
‐ Yes?
562
00:21:08,875 --> 00:21:10,343
‐ Okay, well, thank you.
563
00:21:10,410 --> 00:21:13,046
I'm actually here right now
with someone named Gemini,
564
00:21:13,113 --> 00:21:14,748
and we're trying
to figure out what to do.
565
00:21:28,529 --> 00:21:30,597
‐ Well, that's kind of
what we were looking for.
566
00:21:30,664 --> 00:21:33,934
'Cause it's hard for me and
Kamie to call her out on stuff
567
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,204
because we don't know
what her life has been.
568
00:21:47,714 --> 00:21:49,750
‐ All right, well, if you can,
we'd love to bring you
569
00:21:49,816 --> 00:21:53,687
to sort of have an intervention
with Ashley.
570
00:22:01,201 --> 00:22:02,435
‐ Who is that?
571
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,975
‐ All right.
Well, that would be great.
572
00:22:09,042 --> 00:22:11,411
‐ And do you know,
is she still living in [bleep]?
573
00:22:14,314 --> 00:22:15,415
‐ All right, well, cool.
574
00:22:15,481 --> 00:22:16,850
So, look, we'll
text you tomorrow,
575
00:22:16,917 --> 00:22:18,084
we'll let you know our plan,
576
00:22:18,151 --> 00:22:20,353
and we'll look forward
to meeting you.
577
00:22:21,054 --> 00:22:22,923
‐ All right, thank you.
‐ Thanks, Tomekualynn.
578
00:22:22,989 --> 00:22:25,125
‐ Thank you.
both: Bye.
579
00:22:25,191 --> 00:22:28,294
‐ Wow, so Ashley even lies
to her best friend.
580
00:22:28,361 --> 00:22:30,430
No one knows when she's
telling the truth or not.
581
00:22:30,496 --> 00:22:33,133
Well, the friends are in.
Let's see if Red's down too.
582
00:22:33,199 --> 00:22:34,300
‐ Right.
583
00:22:34,367 --> 00:22:35,536
‐ And let her know
what's going on.
584
00:22:35,602 --> 00:22:38,071
‐ She knows exactly what
you're going through.
585
00:22:38,138 --> 00:22:40,340
[line trilling]
586
00:22:40,907 --> 00:22:43,577
‐ Hey, Red.
Guess who.
587
00:22:45,211 --> 00:22:46,713
‐ Oh, you thought
you were done with us?
588
00:22:46,780 --> 00:22:49,015
Well, guess what.
‐ So check this out.
589
00:22:49,082 --> 00:22:52,853
We're in Houston, Texas
doing an episode right now,
590
00:22:52,919 --> 00:22:56,823
and a phone number came back
to Ashley Taylor.
591
00:22:59,526 --> 00:23:03,570
all: [laugh]
‐ Your girl done struck again.
592
00:23:03,637 --> 00:23:04,805
‐ So‐‐
593
00:23:08,374 --> 00:23:10,243
‐ Well, you gotta pray
a little harder.
594
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:12,478
So now we found some
people who really know her,
595
00:23:12,546 --> 00:23:14,347
who might actually
be her friends.
596
00:23:14,414 --> 00:23:16,750
We're gonna get them all
to do an intervention
597
00:23:16,817 --> 00:23:18,251
without her knowing.
598
00:23:22,723 --> 00:23:24,424
‐ We've never done
an intervention before.
599
00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:26,827
‐ Somebody has to put a stop
to this girl.
600
00:23:29,763 --> 00:23:31,698
[smooth music]
601
00:23:31,765 --> 00:23:34,334
‐ Red is on her way
from the airport,
602
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,970
and then we'll hit the road,
pick up Gemini,
603
00:23:37,037 --> 00:23:39,673
and then go meet Ashley's
friends, Meka, Derek.
604
00:23:39,740 --> 00:23:40,741
‐ Yeah.
605
00:23:40,807 --> 00:23:41,808
[knocking]
606
00:23:41,875 --> 00:23:43,644
‐ Oh.
‐ Red alert.
607
00:23:45,111 --> 00:23:47,047
‐ Oh, man.
‐ I'm here.
608
00:23:47,113 --> 00:23:48,715
‐ [laughs]
609
00:23:48,782 --> 00:23:49,950
[lively music]
610
00:23:50,016 --> 00:23:51,652
‐ Let's go.
611
00:23:51,718 --> 00:23:54,220
‐ I've been trying to think
of something to help her,
612
00:23:54,287 --> 00:23:58,391
and I'm still thinking.
613
00:23:58,458 --> 00:24:01,602
‐ [laughs]
We got a long drive.
614
00:24:01,668 --> 00:24:04,805
‐ All right.
Where's our guy?
615
00:24:04,871 --> 00:24:06,472
Hey.
‐ Hello.
616
00:24:06,540 --> 00:24:08,174
‐ Gemini, this is Red.
‐ I'm Red.
617
00:24:08,241 --> 00:24:09,475
How are you doing?
‐ I'm doing fine.
618
00:24:09,543 --> 00:24:11,111
‐ Good.
‐ Here we go.
619
00:24:11,177 --> 00:24:12,779
‐ All right.
620
00:24:12,846 --> 00:24:15,115
Off to Killeen, Texas to join
up with Tomekualynn and Derek.
621
00:24:15,181 --> 00:24:16,550
This is crazy
622
00:24:16,617 --> 00:24:18,384
'cause we've never done
an intervention before.
623
00:24:18,451 --> 00:24:19,786
‐ This is gonna be so epic.
624
00:24:19,853 --> 00:24:22,155
‐ ♪♪ Whoo, whoo ♪♪
625
00:24:22,222 --> 00:24:25,091
♪♪ ♪♪
626
00:24:25,158 --> 00:24:26,459
♪♪ Hey ♪♪
627
00:24:28,895 --> 00:24:30,163
‐ What have you guys
been saying?
628
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:31,497
‐ Man, I was just
checking on her.
629
00:24:31,565 --> 00:24:33,366
I was like,
"Good morning, beautiful."
630
00:24:33,433 --> 00:24:35,201
And that was weird‐‐
‐ Yeah, you keep it the same.
631
00:24:35,268 --> 00:24:37,303
‐ ♪♪ Yeah
we breaking the box ♪♪
632
00:24:37,370 --> 00:24:38,739
♪♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪♪
633
00:24:38,805 --> 00:24:40,541
♪♪ Oh, yeah,
we're breaking the mold ♪♪
634
00:24:40,607 --> 00:24:42,408
‐ Tell Tatyanna
what happened yesterday?
635
00:24:42,475 --> 00:24:44,711
‐ Yeah, I told her.
‐ What'd she say?
636
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,682
‐ Yeah?
637
00:24:48,749 --> 00:24:49,783
‐ [laughs]
638
00:24:49,850 --> 00:24:51,384
‐ ♪♪ Hey, looking for a hit ♪♪
639
00:24:51,451 --> 00:24:53,086
♪♪ ♪♪
640
00:24:53,153 --> 00:24:54,921
‐ A storm is coming, Ashley.
641
00:24:54,988 --> 00:24:56,923
‐ ♪♪ Hit ♪♪
642
00:24:56,990 --> 00:25:01,067
‐ All right, we are almost
at Tomekualynn's house.
643
00:25:01,134 --> 00:25:02,869
‐ We made it, guys.
644
00:25:04,270 --> 00:25:06,573
[doorbell chimes]
645
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,141
both: Hey.
‐ Hi.
646
00:25:08,208 --> 00:25:09,242
‐ Come in.
‐ What's up, you guys?
647
00:25:09,309 --> 00:25:10,276
‐ What's up, y'all?
Come in.
648
00:25:10,343 --> 00:25:11,411
‐ I'm Meka.
This is Derek.
649
00:25:11,477 --> 00:25:12,513
‐ Derek?
All right.
650
00:25:12,579 --> 00:25:13,614
‐ Nice to meet you.
‐ I'm Nev.
651
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,881
‐ Nice to meet you.
I'm Kamie.
652
00:25:14,948 --> 00:25:16,249
‐ I'm Red.
‐ How are you doing, Red?
653
00:25:16,316 --> 00:25:17,383
‐ Whole gang.
‐ I'm Gemini.
654
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:20,120
‐ This is our squad now.
‐ So, hello.
655
00:25:20,186 --> 00:25:21,254
‐ Hello.
‐ Hi, Nev.
656
00:25:21,321 --> 00:25:23,189
‐ Thanks for meeting up
with us.
657
00:25:23,256 --> 00:25:26,092
Long story short, Gemini has
been talking to Ashley now
658
00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:27,493
for over seven years
659
00:25:27,561 --> 00:25:31,031
as a few different people,
and only now realized it.
660
00:25:31,097 --> 00:25:32,398
‐ Wow.
661
00:25:32,465 --> 00:25:34,200
‐ What struck us the most
in finding you guys is
662
00:25:34,267 --> 00:25:36,102
the fact that on Red's episode,
663
00:25:36,169 --> 00:25:38,204
Ashley was saying
she doesn't have any friends.
664
00:25:38,271 --> 00:25:39,239
‐ Yeah.
‐ Yeah, I know.
665
00:25:39,305 --> 00:25:40,741
I confronted her about it.
666
00:25:40,807 --> 00:25:42,375
‐ And we see that that's
different because‐‐
667
00:25:42,442 --> 00:25:43,777
‐ Well, and Derek?
668
00:25:43,844 --> 00:25:46,312
‐ I'm very close with her,
and we're very close.
669
00:25:46,379 --> 00:25:48,849
But as far as‐‐she's
probably the closest.
670
00:25:48,915 --> 00:25:50,784
‐ Like, I know her mom,
dad, grandmother,
671
00:25:50,851 --> 00:25:52,452
pretty much
her whole entire family.
672
00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:55,556
‐ And does she have
a relatively happy childhood?
673
00:25:55,622 --> 00:25:56,890
I mean‐‐
674
00:25:56,957 --> 00:25:58,525
‐ She really didn't‐‐
she didn't live impoverished.
675
00:25:58,592 --> 00:25:59,960
She had a‐‐
‐ Yeah.
676
00:26:00,026 --> 00:26:01,935
‐ She had pretty much what
she needed and what she wanted.
677
00:26:02,002 --> 00:26:05,371
But understand, she has
always been a big girl,
678
00:26:05,438 --> 00:26:06,807
and you know how kids are.
679
00:26:06,873 --> 00:26:10,010
And there was a lot of teasing
and stuff like that,
680
00:26:10,076 --> 00:26:11,477
so it made her‐‐
681
00:26:11,545 --> 00:26:13,079
‐ I'ma get you
before could get me.
682
00:26:13,146 --> 00:26:14,414
‐ Exactly.
683
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,683
‐ But, I mean,
her being where she is now,
684
00:26:16,750 --> 00:26:18,619
me being with her every day,
trying to get her to‐‐
685
00:26:18,685 --> 00:26:19,986
encourage her
to not do this stuff,
686
00:26:20,053 --> 00:26:23,089
and her mom too,
it didn't change anything.
687
00:26:23,156 --> 00:26:26,026
Like, with me, she can't lie
to me because most of the stuff
688
00:26:26,092 --> 00:26:28,862
she says, like pretending
to have a husband and kids.
689
00:26:28,929 --> 00:26:29,930
‐ You know her.
690
00:26:29,996 --> 00:26:31,397
‐ Yeah, so I know
the real her.
691
00:26:31,464 --> 00:26:35,001
So I can tell when she lies.
The husband ain't real.
692
00:26:35,068 --> 00:26:36,336
‐ We gotta do something.
693
00:26:36,402 --> 00:26:38,238
I mean, in the ten years
of doing this,
694
00:26:38,304 --> 00:26:41,141
I've never met a person
that needs our help more.
695
00:26:41,207 --> 00:26:42,609
The situation now is,
696
00:26:42,676 --> 00:26:46,479
she doesn't know
that we're with Gemini.
697
00:26:46,547 --> 00:26:47,614
She definitely doesn't know
698
00:26:47,681 --> 00:26:49,049
that we're in town
with you guys.
699
00:26:49,115 --> 00:26:51,852
So I can call her right now
and I can say,
700
00:26:51,918 --> 00:26:55,255
"Hey, Kamie and I
are helping Gemini.
701
00:26:55,321 --> 00:26:56,723
He wants to talk to you."
702
00:26:56,790 --> 00:26:59,459
And not obviously tell her
that we're already here,
703
00:26:59,526 --> 00:27:00,761
and that everyone together.
704
00:27:00,827 --> 00:27:02,669
And then,
tomorrow we can all
705
00:27:02,736 --> 00:27:04,437
kind of really
get through to her.
706
00:27:04,505 --> 00:27:07,708
Well, I guess I gotta
call Ashley again.
707
00:27:07,774 --> 00:27:09,309
‐ Good luck.
708
00:27:09,375 --> 00:27:10,877
[line trilling]
709
00:27:11,845 --> 00:27:12,913
‐ Guess who.
710
00:27:15,115 --> 00:27:18,585
‐ Hey, Ashley.
I'm here with Gemini.
711
00:27:18,652 --> 00:27:20,654
And it wasn't super hard
to figure out obviously
712
00:27:20,721 --> 00:27:23,456
that he's been talking to you
all these years.
713
00:27:24,891 --> 00:27:29,630
‐ And he‐‐he wants
to meet you.
714
00:27:29,696 --> 00:27:32,332
So we were wondering if
we could drive up from Houston
715
00:27:32,398 --> 00:27:36,102
tomorrow and make that happen.
716
00:27:40,006 --> 00:27:42,008
‐ Okay.
Bye.
717
00:27:43,777 --> 00:27:44,945
‐ All right,
so we'll let you know
718
00:27:45,011 --> 00:27:46,379
when we hear from her
in the morning,
719
00:27:46,446 --> 00:27:48,615
and we'll tell you where
to meet us and figure it out.
720
00:27:48,682 --> 00:27:51,251
‐ Sounds like a plan.
‐ She's gonna come.
721
00:27:51,317 --> 00:27:53,554
She can't resist the drama.
722
00:27:57,991 --> 00:27:59,325
‐ Ashley texted me that
she's ready to meet,
723
00:27:59,392 --> 00:28:00,426
so let's give her a call.
724
00:28:00,493 --> 00:28:01,935
[line trilling]
725
00:28:03,103 --> 00:28:04,370
‐ Hey, Ashley.
726
00:28:06,006 --> 00:28:10,877
‐ So we're here, we got Gemini,
and we can go round two.
727
00:28:14,581 --> 00:28:15,916
‐ All right.
That's fine.
728
00:28:15,982 --> 00:28:17,718
We could have someone
from the show pick you up.
729
00:28:18,885 --> 00:28:19,886
‐ Bye.
730
00:28:19,953 --> 00:28:21,922
Let's go collect
Gemini and Red.
731
00:28:21,988 --> 00:28:24,490
Meka and Derek are
gonna meet us here.
732
00:28:24,558 --> 00:28:26,993
Team is assembled,
and we will roll out.
733
00:28:27,060 --> 00:28:28,795
‐ Catfish Avengers.
734
00:28:28,862 --> 00:28:33,534
‐ ♪♪ I can't stand, waiting
around to dance, uh‐huh ♪♪
735
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,701
‐ Yo.
‐ Hey.
736
00:28:34,768 --> 00:28:35,969
‐ We're ready to roll
if you are.
737
00:28:36,036 --> 00:28:37,971
‐ ♪♪ Already ♪♪
738
00:28:38,038 --> 00:28:41,508
both: Hey.
‐ All red everything.
739
00:28:41,575 --> 00:28:44,611
‐ All right!
‐ It's our posse.
740
00:28:44,678 --> 00:28:45,646
‐ What's up?
‐ Hey, guys.
741
00:28:45,712 --> 00:28:47,781
‐ What's up, man?
‐ Hi.
742
00:28:47,848 --> 00:28:50,450
‐ We are the squad, so‐‐
‐ Squad.
743
00:28:50,517 --> 00:28:51,451
[line trilling]
744
00:28:51,518 --> 00:28:52,819
‐ Good morning, Tatyanna.
745
00:28:54,187 --> 00:28:56,590
‐ So how do you feel
about me going to see her?
746
00:29:06,940 --> 00:29:09,576
‐ ♪♪ Don't sit around
and complain about it ♪♪
747
00:29:09,643 --> 00:29:11,477
‐ Y'all better hope
she act right today.
748
00:29:11,545 --> 00:29:13,814
I gave her a pass last time.
‐ Yeah, same.
749
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,381
‐ I have no more [bleep]
to give.
750
00:29:15,448 --> 00:29:16,883
‐ Fresh out.
751
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:19,285
‐ ♪♪ Don't sit around
and complain about it ♪♪
752
00:29:19,352 --> 00:29:22,055
‐ You guys ready?
We're here.
753
00:29:22,122 --> 00:29:23,156
[tense music]
754
00:29:23,223 --> 00:29:26,126
‐ Let's go, posse.
‐ All right.
755
00:29:26,192 --> 00:29:28,061
♪♪ ♪♪
756
00:29:28,128 --> 00:29:29,329
Here's the plan.
757
00:29:29,395 --> 00:29:32,498
Gemini, you're gonna hang here
with me and Kamie.
758
00:29:32,566 --> 00:29:35,736
You guys will be in here.
759
00:29:35,802 --> 00:29:37,237
Obviously, you know,
we're close,
760
00:29:37,303 --> 00:29:39,606
so try not to make any noise.
761
00:29:39,673 --> 00:29:43,343
Don't wanna give away
your position.
762
00:29:43,409 --> 00:29:45,612
After Gemini and Ashley get
a chance to talk for a minute,
763
00:29:45,679 --> 00:29:47,981
I'll come in with her.
764
00:29:48,048 --> 00:29:50,050
We'll see how that goes.
765
00:29:50,116 --> 00:29:53,286
All right, so hang tight.
We'll be right outside.
766
00:29:53,353 --> 00:29:56,256
Oh, she texted me.
She's here.
767
00:29:56,322 --> 00:29:57,724
All right.
768
00:29:57,791 --> 00:30:00,466
‐ How do you feel?
‐ My stomach is like...
769
00:30:00,534 --> 00:30:03,036
[dramatic music]
770
00:30:03,103 --> 00:30:04,437
I don't know.
771
00:30:06,740 --> 00:30:08,842
Oh.
[sighs]
772
00:30:08,909 --> 00:30:09,976
♪♪ ♪♪
773
00:30:10,043 --> 00:30:13,446
‐ Hello again.
774
00:30:13,514 --> 00:30:16,049
‐ Hey, y'all.
‐ Hey, Myranda.
775
00:30:16,116 --> 00:30:19,520
‐ Well, Gemini.
776
00:30:19,586 --> 00:30:21,855
Here she is.
Myranda, AKA‐‐
777
00:30:21,922 --> 00:30:24,390
‐ Danielle.
‐ Danielle and Ashley.
778
00:30:24,457 --> 00:30:26,092
‐ Thanks for coming.
‐ Yeah.
779
00:30:28,361 --> 00:30:30,430
‐ We're really just here
to give him an opportunity
780
00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:34,167
to get some closure
to this whole thing.
781
00:30:34,234 --> 00:30:36,570
‐ Like, why did you do it
in the first place?
782
00:30:36,637 --> 00:30:38,071
Like what is‐‐what
was you looking for?
783
00:30:38,138 --> 00:30:41,742
‐ Nothing from you.
‐ Hey‐‐the hell?
784
00:30:41,808 --> 00:30:43,544
‐ Well, did you have feelings?
‐ No‐‐no.
785
00:30:43,610 --> 00:30:47,347
He's a great guy, but he's
just got, you know, issues.
786
00:30:47,413 --> 00:30:48,882
‐ What you think you got?
787
00:30:48,949 --> 00:30:50,216
‐ No, I'm just‐‐
I'm just saying,
788
00:30:50,283 --> 00:30:51,952
like, you're a great guy,
you're a great friend.
789
00:30:52,018 --> 00:30:54,120
It happened.
It was a joke.
790
00:30:54,187 --> 00:30:55,622
‐ It was a joke?
791
00:30:55,689 --> 00:30:56,857
Seven years?
All right.
792
00:30:56,923 --> 00:30:58,659
Ain't nobody find it funny
but you.
793
00:31:01,194 --> 00:31:03,469
‐ I only came here today
'cause I wanted to make amends.
794
00:31:03,537 --> 00:31:06,372
I've done that,
so can I go now?
795
00:31:06,439 --> 00:31:07,808
‐ No, I think
he had questions‐‐
796
00:31:07,874 --> 00:31:09,209
‐ Okay, and I'm‐‐
I'm not answering him
797
00:31:09,275 --> 00:31:10,644
because right now, it's
gonna get heated between us.
798
00:31:10,711 --> 00:31:12,579
‐ I'm out. Like, I don't
even care no more.
799
00:31:12,646 --> 00:31:13,947
Like, you selfish.
800
00:31:14,014 --> 00:31:16,316
You don't care
about nobody but yourself.
801
00:31:16,382 --> 00:31:20,086
‐ He's upset obviously.
802
00:31:20,153 --> 00:31:22,856
And I think it's justified‐‐
‐ He always gets upset.
803
00:31:22,923 --> 00:31:26,593
We're both done.
That's a wrap.
804
00:31:26,660 --> 00:31:27,994
‐ Let me quickly
just talk to Gemini.
805
00:31:28,061 --> 00:31:29,462
I'm gonna take him
inside the room for a second.
806
00:31:29,530 --> 00:31:31,064
‐ Please do.
‐ And cool him off,
807
00:31:31,131 --> 00:31:33,667
and then we'll come back out.
‐ I'm not doing it this time.
808
00:31:33,734 --> 00:31:35,702
If we don't do this, then
I will go back to the crib.
809
00:31:35,769 --> 00:31:37,337
‐ Ashley, I don't know
what you're expecting.
810
00:31:37,403 --> 00:31:39,573
‐ We got as much
from that conversation
811
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,641
as we're gonna get.
812
00:31:40,707 --> 00:31:42,275
You guys can just be here.
813
00:31:44,144 --> 00:31:45,579
You all right, man?
‐ Yeah, I'm good.
814
00:31:45,646 --> 00:31:46,747
I just wanna
get this over with.
815
00:31:46,813 --> 00:31:48,114
I don't care no more.
‐ All right.
816
00:31:48,181 --> 00:31:50,584
I'm gonna go get her
and I'll bring her in.
817
00:31:50,651 --> 00:31:52,085
I'll be right back.
818
00:31:56,590 --> 00:31:59,225
All right, he's in there.
He's calmed down.
819
00:31:59,292 --> 00:32:02,402
Why don't we go in there,
and we could try this again?
820
00:32:02,468 --> 00:32:03,737
‐ [sighs]
Oh, Lord.
821
00:32:03,804 --> 00:32:06,707
[suspenseful music]
822
00:32:06,773 --> 00:32:12,613
♪♪ ♪♪
823
00:32:12,679 --> 00:32:14,180
Oh, damn.
824
00:32:16,883 --> 00:32:18,552
‐ Come on in.
‐ No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
825
00:32:18,619 --> 00:32:21,321
‐ They love you
and care about you.
826
00:32:21,387 --> 00:32:22,556
‐ As you can see,
827
00:32:22,623 --> 00:32:24,424
we brought some people here
from your life.
828
00:32:24,490 --> 00:32:26,359
‐ Mm‐hmm.
This an intervention?
829
00:32:26,426 --> 00:32:28,228
‐ Yes.
‐ Kind of.
830
00:32:28,294 --> 00:32:30,296
‐ You set me up.
‐ Well‐‐
831
00:32:30,363 --> 00:32:31,798
‐ That's how
interventions work.
832
00:32:31,865 --> 00:32:34,267
‐ Yeah.
Let's have a seat.
833
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,307
So, look, call it
whatever you want,
834
00:32:41,374 --> 00:32:47,380
I care about you as a person
who exists right now.
835
00:32:47,447 --> 00:32:49,750
Obviously, you need
to stop the catfishing,
836
00:32:49,816 --> 00:32:51,818
but maybe,
before you can do that,
837
00:32:51,885 --> 00:32:53,887
you need to realize
that there are people,
838
00:32:53,954 --> 00:32:56,623
specifically these two
who you've known a long time‐‐
839
00:32:56,690 --> 00:32:57,991
‐ Mm‐hmm.
840
00:32:58,058 --> 00:33:01,802
‐ Who want you to be happy
and be honest,
841
00:33:01,868 --> 00:33:05,606
and live a life that's
fulfilling and rewarding.
842
00:33:05,672 --> 00:33:07,708
We're here and we wanna know
how you feel,
843
00:33:07,774 --> 00:33:09,876
and we wanna be helpful
if we can.
844
00:33:12,613 --> 00:33:13,914
‐ I love you,
845
00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:16,149
but I'm not finna sit here
and applaud your [bleep]
846
00:33:16,216 --> 00:33:17,784
'cause I know
you're better than this.
847
00:33:17,851 --> 00:33:19,152
The whole point
of being on this show is
848
00:33:19,219 --> 00:33:21,187
for these people
to get their answers,
849
00:33:21,254 --> 00:33:23,223
not for you to come in here
and make this a joke,
850
00:33:23,289 --> 00:33:25,325
and act like this
isn't hurting them.
851
00:33:25,391 --> 00:33:27,828
And, like, you're just
completely, deep down,
852
00:33:27,894 --> 00:33:29,796
okay with what you're doing
to these people.
853
00:33:32,533 --> 00:33:33,934
What about your real life?
854
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,002
Not this person
you're pretending to be.
855
00:33:36,069 --> 00:33:38,138
All this effort you're putting
into all these lies,
856
00:33:38,204 --> 00:33:40,841
you could put it into finding
yourself a real husband,
857
00:33:40,907 --> 00:33:43,209
not one that
you gotta lie about.
858
00:33:43,276 --> 00:33:45,679
Yeah, the smile's gone now,
isn't it?
859
00:33:45,746 --> 00:33:47,247
And that's coming from me,
your big sister,
860
00:33:47,313 --> 00:33:49,349
who actually loves you
and cares about the real you,
861
00:33:49,415 --> 00:33:51,518
not this person
you're pretending to be
862
00:33:51,585 --> 00:33:54,354
because it's not okay.
863
00:33:54,420 --> 00:33:55,889
‐ It's crazy.
864
00:33:55,956 --> 00:33:59,526
All I'm asking you is why.
Why you couldn't be yourself?
865
00:33:59,593 --> 00:34:02,168
‐ And that's one question.
He's just asking one.
866
00:34:02,235 --> 00:34:03,570
‐ This was a joke.
867
00:34:03,637 --> 00:34:05,305
I'm bad and I'm sorry, but‐‐
‐ That's not a joke.
868
00:34:05,371 --> 00:34:07,473
You wasted seven years
of this young man's life.
869
00:34:07,541 --> 00:34:09,175
‐ I'm not doing this.
I'm not doing this.
870
00:34:09,242 --> 00:34:11,244
‐ Ashley, hold on, hold on.
‐ Then what you come here for?
871
00:34:11,311 --> 00:34:13,346
If you didn't want to do this‐‐
‐ I'm not doing this [bleep]!
872
00:34:13,413 --> 00:34:15,749
‐ It's not [bleep].
‐ I'm not doing this.
873
00:34:26,860 --> 00:34:29,462
‐ Ashley.
You all right?
874
00:34:29,530 --> 00:34:31,397
‐ I'm‐‐I'm fine.
‐ You sure?
875
00:34:31,464 --> 00:34:33,266
‐ I'm fine.
876
00:34:33,333 --> 00:34:35,001
‐ She left 'cause
she ain't wanna start crying
877
00:34:35,068 --> 00:34:36,169
'cause that's where
she was headed.
878
00:34:36,236 --> 00:34:38,772
‐ Yeah.
‐ But what happened to you
879
00:34:38,839 --> 00:34:41,107
that was so bad for you
to do all this to people?
880
00:34:41,174 --> 00:34:42,408
‐ [sniffles]
881
00:34:42,475 --> 00:34:44,578
‐ You feel like you're
being attacked, huh?
882
00:34:44,645 --> 00:34:46,479
‐ [cries]
Yeah, I do.
883
00:34:46,547 --> 00:34:50,150
Like how dare you sit there
and talk about my marriage
884
00:34:50,216 --> 00:34:52,052
and for her to say
that it's [bleep].
885
00:34:52,118 --> 00:34:54,721
Then you don't know what
the [bleep] I'm going through.
886
00:34:54,788 --> 00:34:56,823
Yeah, I get it.
I hurt people, I get that.
887
00:34:56,890 --> 00:34:58,625
But don't sit up here
and don't talk about,
888
00:34:58,692 --> 00:35:00,260
"What about your husband?"
889
00:35:00,326 --> 00:35:01,935
Like, don't do that.
890
00:35:02,002 --> 00:35:03,604
‐ You know I didn't come here
to attack you.
891
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:05,138
It's all about love, baby.
892
00:35:05,205 --> 00:35:08,208
‐ That's the thing, though.
They [bleep] ambushed me.
893
00:35:08,274 --> 00:35:10,276
Y'all don't know what the
[bleep] I've been going through
894
00:35:10,343 --> 00:35:11,712
the last three years.
895
00:35:11,778 --> 00:35:13,146
‐ You're gonna be all right.
896
00:35:13,213 --> 00:35:15,048
‐ I'ma get this over with
'cause I'm ready to go home.
897
00:35:15,115 --> 00:35:16,550
Like the‐‐how
the [bleep] you know?
898
00:35:16,617 --> 00:35:18,418
Like you don't know
what [bleep] hell
899
00:35:18,484 --> 00:35:21,655
this person put me through
these last [bleep] three years.
900
00:35:21,722 --> 00:35:22,856
‐ Well, tell us.
We wanna know.
901
00:35:22,923 --> 00:35:24,625
‐ Don't talk to me
right now, Nev.
902
00:35:24,691 --> 00:35:26,192
Thank you.
‐ Okay.
903
00:35:26,259 --> 00:35:29,262
Well, we'll be here
if you wanna let us in
904
00:35:29,329 --> 00:35:31,364
and tell us what's up.
905
00:35:31,431 --> 00:35:33,567
[somber music]
906
00:35:33,634 --> 00:35:35,168
‐ Oh, my God.
907
00:35:35,235 --> 00:35:37,904
♪♪ ♪♪
908
00:35:37,971 --> 00:35:39,439
This is [bleep] crazy.
909
00:35:41,742 --> 00:35:42,809
‐ What was she saying?
910
00:35:42,876 --> 00:35:44,177
‐ Mainly she felt like
911
00:35:44,244 --> 00:35:46,179
you brought up,
I guess, her husband.
912
00:35:46,246 --> 00:35:48,615
It triggered her because‐‐
‐ It doesn't [bleep] matter.
913
00:35:48,682 --> 00:35:51,151
‐ It triggered her because
the husband ain't [bleep] real.
914
00:35:51,217 --> 00:35:52,719
‐ Exactly.
915
00:35:52,786 --> 00:35:55,055
‐ Let me just go back in here
'cause I'm ready to go home.
916
00:35:55,121 --> 00:35:56,923
Come on, Derek.
Let's go.
917
00:35:59,793 --> 00:36:00,834
‐ So you're not
gonna talk to me?
918
00:36:00,901 --> 00:36:01,835
‐ No, I'm not.
I don't‐‐
919
00:36:01,902 --> 00:36:02,869
‐ Why?
‐ No, I'm not.
920
00:36:02,936 --> 00:36:04,204
I don't wanna do this.
No.
921
00:36:04,270 --> 00:36:06,172
‐ No, you're gonna talk
to me face‐to‐face
922
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,808
'cause you doing all
this yelling and stuff,
923
00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:09,175
and I understand you hurt.
924
00:36:09,242 --> 00:36:10,310
‐ No, you don't.
925
00:36:10,376 --> 00:36:11,945
‐ But we're supposed
to be best friends.
926
00:36:12,012 --> 00:36:13,413
How are we supposed
to understand,
927
00:36:13,479 --> 00:36:15,215
and you won't say nothing?
928
00:36:15,281 --> 00:36:17,283
I sit here
and tell you everything.
929
00:36:17,350 --> 00:36:19,886
When grandma died, I was
the one who was there for you,
930
00:36:19,953 --> 00:36:23,724
not these people that
are your fake friends.
931
00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:26,827
Holding it in is
gonna make it worse.
932
00:36:26,893 --> 00:36:29,963
You gotta tell somebody.
Grandma's not here to listen.
933
00:36:30,030 --> 00:36:31,231
You could at least
explain to them
934
00:36:31,297 --> 00:36:33,233
why you did
what you did to them.
935
00:36:33,299 --> 00:36:37,037
Why it felt like a joke to you.
Why it was funny to you.
936
00:36:37,103 --> 00:36:40,406
Why you felt like it made
you feel better to hurt them.
937
00:36:40,473 --> 00:36:42,042
That's what I'm saying.
938
00:36:42,108 --> 00:36:44,177
I'm not bringing up
your husband to be funny,
939
00:36:44,244 --> 00:36:47,113
but I'm saying if there
really was your husband‐‐
940
00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:49,783
‐ Nobody knows what the [bleep]
this man‐‐this person was
941
00:36:49,850 --> 00:36:51,417
going through these
last couple of years.
942
00:36:51,484 --> 00:36:54,154
‐ We're just here to listen.
‐ Exactly.
943
00:36:54,220 --> 00:36:55,756
‐ We're here because
we want to know you.
944
00:36:55,822 --> 00:36:57,457
We want to get
to know the real Ashley,
945
00:36:57,524 --> 00:37:00,561
and we need to understand how
to separate that from the lies.
946
00:37:00,627 --> 00:37:02,468
‐ Where should I start?
947
00:37:02,536 --> 00:37:05,171
‐ Your husband.
Where'd you meet him?
948
00:37:05,238 --> 00:37:08,575
‐ Well, we met on Instagram.
Everything was going great.
949
00:37:08,642 --> 00:37:10,810
He loses his job,
950
00:37:10,877 --> 00:37:14,681
and he's just like‐‐became
a downward spiral from there.
951
00:37:14,748 --> 00:37:16,149
‐ Are you still married?
952
00:37:16,215 --> 00:37:18,017
‐ Yeah, like me and him,
we‐‐we still together, like‐‐
953
00:37:18,084 --> 00:37:19,352
‐ What's his name?
954
00:37:19,419 --> 00:37:22,022
‐ His name‐‐his name...
His name‐‐his name is...
955
00:37:22,088 --> 00:37:25,491
Well, his whole name is Sergio
Geronimo Perez, but yeah.
956
00:37:29,262 --> 00:37:31,197
‐ What's it gonna take
to get you to stop?
957
00:37:31,264 --> 00:37:33,333
‐ I don't do that no more.
I have a lot of stuff going on.
958
00:37:33,399 --> 00:37:35,869
‐ You were just doing it
with him.
959
00:37:35,936 --> 00:37:37,403
‐ This was the last one.
960
00:37:37,470 --> 00:37:40,140
‐ Well, Ashley, I'm gonna be
flat‐out honest with you
961
00:37:40,206 --> 00:37:42,776
'cause I feel like we could be
real with each other.
962
00:37:42,843 --> 00:37:45,078
I don't believe a word
that comes out of your mouth.
963
00:37:45,145 --> 00:37:48,682
But my concern is that you
have isolated yourself so much
964
00:37:48,749 --> 00:37:52,152
from the people who love you
and the people who do know you,
965
00:37:52,218 --> 00:37:54,688
that you have‐‐you have created
your own little world
966
00:37:54,755 --> 00:37:57,257
where you think that you're all
by yourself, and you're not.
967
00:37:57,323 --> 00:37:59,092
‐ I'm never alone.
What are you talking about?
968
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:02,603
‐ You went on national TV
and said you have nobody.
969
00:38:02,669 --> 00:38:05,305
You don't have no friends,
no family you can depend on.
970
00:38:05,371 --> 00:38:07,173
Every time you've ever
called me, I've been there,
971
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:08,975
even when I have
my own stuff going on.
972
00:38:09,042 --> 00:38:10,711
So how say
you don't have anybody?
973
00:38:10,777 --> 00:38:12,813
‐ I'm a close‐‐I'm‐‐I don't
talk about my business.
974
00:38:12,879 --> 00:38:14,347
I'm a closed person.
975
00:38:14,414 --> 00:38:16,550
What happens in my personal
life, it's my personal life,
976
00:38:16,617 --> 00:38:17,784
and it is what it is‐‐
977
00:38:17,851 --> 00:38:19,786
‐ But I let you
into my personal life.
978
00:38:19,853 --> 00:38:21,121
‐ Okay.
979
00:38:21,187 --> 00:38:23,990
‐ I think that you are
losing sight of yourself.
980
00:38:24,057 --> 00:38:26,560
Ashley needs to do
soul‐searching
981
00:38:26,627 --> 00:38:28,294
to figure out who Ashley is,
982
00:38:28,361 --> 00:38:30,531
and what Ashley deserves,
and what Ashley wants.
983
00:38:30,597 --> 00:38:31,698
‐ But she is soul‐searching.
984
00:38:31,765 --> 00:38:32,999
She's gonna do a lot
of soul‐searching
985
00:38:33,066 --> 00:38:34,535
when I‐‐when
I leave here.
986
00:38:34,601 --> 00:38:35,969
‐ This [bleep] keeps
getting better.
987
00:38:36,036 --> 00:38:37,203
‐ It's crazy.
988
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:38,672
She still don't care
after all this.
989
00:38:38,739 --> 00:38:39,673
‐ Exactly.
‐ No, you‐‐
990
00:38:39,740 --> 00:38:41,642
‐ No, I'm done.
991
00:38:41,708 --> 00:38:44,277
I just wanna say my piece.
Can I talk to you real quick?
992
00:38:44,344 --> 00:38:45,746
‐ Please, no.
‐ Huh?
993
00:38:45,812 --> 00:38:47,914
‐ Let the man talk to you.
‐ [sighs]
994
00:38:47,981 --> 00:38:49,616
‐ 'Cause you could say
what you want to,
995
00:38:49,683 --> 00:38:51,752
but for you to carry on
with her or him
996
00:38:51,818 --> 00:38:53,019
for as long as you did,
997
00:38:53,086 --> 00:38:55,922
you had to have
some type of feeling.
998
00:38:55,989 --> 00:38:58,391
‐ Like, I really don't
care about this no more.
999
00:38:58,458 --> 00:39:01,001
I hope you find the‐‐
the help that you need,
1000
00:39:01,067 --> 00:39:02,302
and I hope you find yourself,
1001
00:39:02,368 --> 00:39:03,637
and hope you stop doing this.
1002
00:39:03,704 --> 00:39:05,305
Like, we could've been friends.
1003
00:39:05,371 --> 00:39:08,642
I just hope you
really find yourself‐‐
1004
00:39:08,709 --> 00:39:10,677
‐ Okay.
‐ Basically.
1005
00:39:10,744 --> 00:39:11,812
Well, take care.
1006
00:39:11,878 --> 00:39:13,479
‐ All right.
Have a safe trip home.
1007
00:39:13,547 --> 00:39:16,449
[tense music]
1008
00:39:16,517 --> 00:39:17,518
♪♪ ♪♪
1009
00:39:17,584 --> 00:39:18,919
‐ Well, you can
put on the front
1010
00:39:18,985 --> 00:39:20,621
like you don't give a [bleep]
about any of this,
1011
00:39:20,687 --> 00:39:23,857
but at the end of the day,
when you lay down at night,
1012
00:39:23,924 --> 00:39:27,894
and there are moments when you
are just Ashley by herself,
1013
00:39:27,961 --> 00:39:29,830
that person
needs to be happy.
1014
00:39:29,896 --> 00:39:31,197
‐ Mm‐hmm.
1015
00:39:31,264 --> 00:39:33,466
‐ Is there a part of you,
even a small part,
1016
00:39:33,534 --> 00:39:36,136
that acknowledges that
you could use some help?
1017
00:39:36,202 --> 00:39:39,005
‐ I mean, I'm not crazy.
‐ I didn't say‐‐
1018
00:39:39,072 --> 00:39:40,273
‐ I‐‐I know what
you're saying, Nev,
1019
00:39:40,340 --> 00:39:41,274
but I'm just telling you.
1020
00:39:41,341 --> 00:39:42,609
‐ I just mean support, help‐‐
1021
00:39:42,676 --> 00:39:44,244
‐ I get‐‐get it, Nev.
I get what you're saying.
1022
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:45,478
Sometimes I feel like,
1023
00:39:45,546 --> 00:39:46,913
you know what,
let me just hold it in
1024
00:39:46,980 --> 00:39:48,181
'cause I know if I let it out,
1025
00:39:48,248 --> 00:39:50,016
it's not gonna be good
when I let it out.
1026
00:39:50,083 --> 00:39:51,184
‐ And it's not gonna be good
1027
00:39:51,251 --> 00:39:52,686
when you hold it in
for ten years.
1028
00:39:52,753 --> 00:39:54,921
‐ Look, the best‐‐I think
the best we can do is
1029
00:39:54,988 --> 00:39:57,891
just show you that if you're
going through something
1030
00:39:57,958 --> 00:39:59,125
and feel like
there's nowhere to go,
1031
00:39:59,192 --> 00:40:00,360
there is somewhere to go.
1032
00:40:00,426 --> 00:40:02,435
‐ Always.
With me, anyway.
1033
00:40:02,503 --> 00:40:04,204
‐ And rather than starting
a new conversation
1034
00:40:04,270 --> 00:40:08,675
with someone online
as another person,
1035
00:40:08,742 --> 00:40:11,712
there's an opportunity for you
to just connect as yourself
1036
00:40:11,778 --> 00:40:13,547
with people in your life.
1037
00:40:13,614 --> 00:40:15,448
‐ Mm‐hmm.
1038
00:40:15,516 --> 00:40:18,018
‐ I'm glad we got to do this.
‐ Oh.
1039
00:40:18,084 --> 00:40:19,485
I'm gonna do
some soul‐searching
1040
00:40:19,553 --> 00:40:20,554
when I leave here.
1041
00:40:20,621 --> 00:40:21,688
I'm gonna do
some soul‐searching
1042
00:40:21,755 --> 00:40:22,923
when I'm in the car.
1043
00:40:22,989 --> 00:40:24,658
I'm gonna do some
heavy soul‐searching.
1044
00:40:24,725 --> 00:40:27,661
‐ All right, so let's say
our goodbyes for now.
1045
00:40:27,728 --> 00:40:29,329
‐ And you know what, Ashley?
1046
00:40:29,395 --> 00:40:31,164
I'm gonna give you a hug
this time.
1047
00:40:31,231 --> 00:40:32,432
‐ Hold on.
Back up now.
1048
00:40:32,498 --> 00:40:34,334
No, no, no, no, no.
What the hell you doing?
1049
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,769
‐ I'm about to give you
a bear hug.
1050
00:40:35,836 --> 00:40:38,238
‐ You're not finna bear hug me.
Get away from me.
1051
00:40:38,304 --> 00:40:42,175
‐ ♪♪ Living in hard times ♪♪
1052
00:40:42,242 --> 00:40:44,878
‐ Wasn't that nice?
‐ It was good seeing you, Nev.
1053
00:40:44,945 --> 00:40:46,412
‐ All right.
‐ Pick your chin up.
1054
00:40:46,479 --> 00:40:47,981
‐ ♪♪ Nobody's got the answers ♪♪
1055
00:40:48,048 --> 00:40:51,017
‐ Pick it up.
Thank you, sport.
1056
00:40:51,084 --> 00:40:52,018
‐ All right.
Bye, Ashley.
1057
00:40:52,085 --> 00:40:54,621
‐ Bye, Ashley.
1058
00:40:54,688 --> 00:40:57,357
‐ ♪♪ Maybe when you're older
you'll know it better ♪♪
1059
00:40:57,423 --> 00:40:58,825
♪♪ Maybe when you're older ♪♪
1060
00:40:58,892 --> 00:41:00,393
♪♪ You'll know it better ♪♪
1061
00:41:00,460 --> 00:41:03,136
♪♪ Maybe when you're older
you'll know it better ♪♪
1062
00:41:03,203 --> 00:41:06,573
♪♪ Maybe when you're older
you'll learn how to love ♪♪