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- ♪♪ MTV ♪♪
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- Mark met Marie Taylor
in a game.
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- On my birthday,
I had an in-game party,
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and she was like my own
personal cheerleader that day.
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And we just talked
the whole night.
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Really connected
on an emotional level.
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- I'm so curious to see
what she looks like.
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- Yeah.
- Whoa! Hello!
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Holy Jesus.
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She looks like
she's got a bunch of stories.
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- She's on jets, honey.
She ain't in that game.
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- There is a real girl,
her name is Marie Taylor,
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and she's the girl
in the pictures.
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- Right.
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- But that's just not
who he's talking to.
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- This is a stranger's home.
- Hello?
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- [whispering]
What the [bleep]?
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- Hello? Hello?
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[dramatic music sting]
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[phone ringing]
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- It's Yaniv.
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Hello?
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- You're missing breakfast.
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- Driver?
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- Fine.
Field trip.
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What is this man doing?
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You know, it's always something
with Yaniv.
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I don't know.
It's just...
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Where is he?
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What is going on?
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I mean--
[horn honks]
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No.
You cannot be for real.
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[upbeat music]
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- Surprise.
Look what I bought.
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- You are insane.
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You're insane.
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This is how
I want to arrive to work
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from now on.
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- You did not get a limo.
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You have lost...
- You ready to work?
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- You've lost
your [bleep] mind.
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I let you do the pawn shops.
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I let you buy a million
gold rings and chains.
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But this?
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How much is he paying you?
- That's my friend.
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- This takes the cake.
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- All right, you wanna
just wait here, and I'll...
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- Yeah.
- Thank you, Maya.
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Let's do it.
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Whoo! After you.
- You've lost your mind.
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Here's the question.
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Does Laura know about the limo?
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- Actually,
I gotta go for a second.
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Don't we have an email?
We should get into this.
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Shall we?
- We shall.
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- Ooh! Got an email.
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"Is she my dream girl or nah?"
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"Dear Nev and Kamie,
My name is Mark.
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"I'm 30 years old, and I'm
from Boston, Massachusetts.
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- ♪♪ I was lost in a world ♪♪
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♪♪ Then I felt I had a fever ♪♪
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- "I work
as an independent contractor,
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"and I'm also a gamer,
which is how I've gotten myself
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"into a bit of a situation.
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"For the past year,
I've been on a game
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"that is all
about relationships
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"and forming friendships.
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"About two months ago,
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"a player I'd seen around
for a while
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"started chatting with me.
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"Her name is Marie Taylor,
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I call her Taylor,
and we completely hit it off."
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- ♪♪ Think I might've found
just what I'm looking for ♪♪
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- "We exchanged pics,
and she gave me her Snapchat
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"and a couple of nights later,
we had a Snap call,
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and talked most of the night."
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- ♪♪ Just what
I'm looking for ♪♪
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- "Our relationship grew
way beyond the game.
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"But things with Taylor
were never easy.
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"I keep trying to get us
to a more committed place,
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but every time I tell her
how I feel, she pulls back."
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- ♪♪ Got a taste of it
when I'm already reeling ♪♪
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- "I started to get worried
that she might not be
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"who she says she is,
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"and another friend
from the game
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told me they thought
the same thing."
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- Work.
- "We've never video chatted.
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"We've never met.
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"And when I asked her
for more personal photos,
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"she sent me the same ones
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"she was sending
to other people.
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"Taylor and I are not
at a great spot at the moment,
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"but I'm hoping that we can get
back to a place
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"where we're dating again,
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even if she is a catfish."
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- ♪♪ Think I might've found
just what I'm looking for ♪♪
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- "I hope you guys can help
me finally the truth.
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Mark."
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He seems to have
a pretty realistic view
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of what's happening.
- Yeah.
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- It sounds like
he really likes the idea
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of finding out who she is
because it sounds like
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they've made a real connection.
- Yeah.
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I think he's right
to be skeptical.
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- Right.
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- But I'm not willing
to completely write off
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Marie, aka Taylor just yet.
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- Hey, well,
let's give him a call.
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- "Mack."
- "Mack."
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- "Mack," he's from Boston.
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- Hello.
- Is this Mack?
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- It's Nev and Kamie.
- Yeah, it's Nev and Kamie.
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- Good.
- We just read your email.
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And obviously we're intrigued.
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Do you still live
in Massachusetts?
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- What about Taylor?
Where does she live?
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- Oh.
- Okay.
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- Oh, well, wait a second.
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If she's in Vegas,
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it could save us all a headache
if you flew here to L. A.
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And if she's not in Vegas,
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then we go
wherever we need to go.
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But are you able to fly
out here and meet us in L. A.?
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- We would love to help you.
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I'd love to also get you out
to L. A. for the first time
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and hopefully figure this out.
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- All right,
we'll see you tomorrow, buddy.
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- All right.
- Bye.
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- All right, here she goes.
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This way.
- [laughs]
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- Ma'am?
- Wow.
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This is white glove service.
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- Still think it was a mistake?
- We'll see. It's growing.
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We'll see how she drives.
- Okay.
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All right, let's do it.
Okay.
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We're off to pick up Mark.
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- No speaking please.
I requested a quiet ride.
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- Oh, excuse me.
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All right.
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- Look for someone
who looks lost.
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- Oh, I got him.
I got him.
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That's gotta be him.
Yeah, I think he's waving.
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- This looks like the guy.
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Hurry up, chauffeur.
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- Oh, my God!
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- What's up, dude?
- How's it going?
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- Welcome, welcome.
- I love your Caddy.
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- Thank you.
- Hi.
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- Kamie, Mark.
- Welcome.
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- So nice to meet you.
- Jump on in.
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- All righty.
- All right.
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Let's get you to your Airbnb.
- Well, welcome.
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- Thank you.
- For your first time in L. A...
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- I feel special.
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- Had to give you
the full experience.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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- Here we are.
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Ma'am.
- Thank you.
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- Why, thank you.
- Sir, welcome.
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It's been a pleasure.
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- Look at that.
- Humble abode.
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- Come on in.
- Thank you.
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- Welcome home, Mark.
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This is nice!
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- This is nice.
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- Here, have a seat.
Let's get down to it.
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[sighs]
Well, we're here finally.
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Let's talk about Taylor.
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So why don't you take us back
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to when you guys first met.
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Explain what was happening,
what game you were on.
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Paint the picture.
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- So it's a PvP-based game,
player versus player.
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It's called
"Party in My Dorm."
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- Oh.
- It's a mobile game.
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There's different clubs
that you can join,
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and you can socialize.
- What are you trying to do?
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What is the function
or purpose of the game?
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- It's to upgrade your toon
and your dorm, basically,
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and play against other players.
Make friendships.
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- This is, like,
college-themed?
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- It's like a college theme,
yeah.
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- Okay.
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- So I would see her around
all the time.
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We would just socialize
and party.
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And then on my birthday
this year,
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I had an in-game
birthday party,
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which was really fun,
and I was hosting it.
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So I was mainly just trying
to focus on what I was doing,
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not really socializing
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while everyone was talking
at the party.
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I was having
a little bit of anxiety.
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Like, I feel like I messed up
or something.
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She comes out of nowhere,
and she's like
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"No, you're doing good.
You're doing great."
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She was like my own
personal cheerleader that day.
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And later on that night,
we ended adding each other,
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and we just talked
the whole night.
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We stayed up all night
till the sun rose.
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Just really connected
on an emotional level.
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- But still all just typing?
- But still all just typing.
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- Got it.
You know how old she is?
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- 21.
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- So now you're officially
friends in the app.
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So how does
the relationship progress?
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- So in the game,
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you can be in a relationship
with someone,
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and after a couple of days,
we were in a relationship
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on the game.
- Wow.
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Now, presumably your name
and avatar in the game
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are not the same
as your real name
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and what you look like
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in real life.
- Correct.
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- When did you first, like,
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actually see
what she looked like?
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- So we were talking in-game,
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and I had said that I looked
like my avatar..
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And she was like,
"I kinda look like mine."
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I was like, "Oh, I'd like
to see what you look like,"
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and she was like,
"Do you have Snapchat?"
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So I added her on Snapchat,
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and that's where she sent me
some pictures and videos
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of herself.
- Oh.
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- Did she say she has
other social media
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other than Snapchat?
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Does she have Instagram
or anything?
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- Yeah, she has an Instagram,
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but we would talk
through the game and Snapchat.
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And then a little later
down the road,
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she ended up giving me
her phone number.
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- Got it. And so then did you
talk on the phone?
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- Yes, we've had voice calls.
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- And how are those?
- They were good.
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We can sit there, and we can
chat for a couple of hours.
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- Oh, wow, so that's nice.
- Yeah.
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- So what's she like?
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- She's pretty.
She's funny.
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She's got a great
sense of humor.
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She's into games just like me,
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but she's also--like,
she loves going to the beach.
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She loves going on vacation.
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She loves traveling,
and I love traveling, myself.
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- So about how long
have you guys now been talking?
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- Couple months.
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- And you've asked
to video chat?
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- I have not asked
to video chat.
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- Oh, okay.
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- You know, we would talk
on the phone all the time,
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so I didn't really see, like,
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00:09:00,707 --> 00:09:03,577
video chatting as something
that was needed to be done.
251
00:09:03,644 --> 00:09:06,046
- And what's her voice like?
Does she have an accent?
252
00:09:06,113 --> 00:09:08,182
Does she sound young?
What does she sound like?
253
00:09:08,248 --> 00:09:11,285
- She sounds like she puts
a lot of emphasis
254
00:09:11,351 --> 00:09:13,754
on making her voice sound
a little more high-pitched
255
00:09:13,820 --> 00:09:15,589
than normal.
- Oh, so you--
256
00:09:15,656 --> 00:09:18,158
- You said she's 21,
but maybe she could be older
257
00:09:18,225 --> 00:09:20,561
and, like,
putting on a younger voice?
258
00:09:20,627 --> 00:09:21,995
- It's a possibility.
259
00:09:22,062 --> 00:09:24,264
- Do you think it's possible
that it could be a guy
260
00:09:24,331 --> 00:09:26,733
speaking with sort of
a girl voice?
261
00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,802
- I don't think it's a guy.
262
00:09:28,869 --> 00:09:30,504
- But you have suspicions
263
00:09:30,571 --> 00:09:32,239
that she's not the girl
in the photos.
264
00:09:32,306 --> 00:09:34,208
- I do have suspicions.
- Yeah, why?
265
00:09:34,274 --> 00:09:37,978
- So when we had first started
talking on Snapchat,
266
00:09:38,045 --> 00:09:39,580
a couple days in, I was like,
267
00:09:39,646 --> 00:09:42,516
"Hey, can you send me
a picture blowing me a kiss?"
268
00:09:42,583 --> 00:09:45,319
And she was just like,
"That's too much effort."
269
00:09:45,385 --> 00:09:48,555
And then a couple of people
that I know in the game
270
00:09:48,622 --> 00:09:50,290
think that she's a catfish.
271
00:09:50,357 --> 00:09:52,059
- Well, you mentioned someone
in the email
272
00:09:52,125 --> 00:09:54,194
that's also sort of suspicious
273
00:09:54,261 --> 00:09:55,896
that she may not be
who she says she is.
274
00:09:55,963 --> 00:09:58,632
- Mm-hmm,
I have a friend right here,
275
00:09:58,699 --> 00:10:00,400
if you wanna read.
276
00:10:00,467 --> 00:10:01,802
That right there.
277
00:10:01,869 --> 00:10:03,770
- You said,
"Dude, I don't know.
278
00:10:03,837 --> 00:10:06,640
But there's just something
about her I can't explain."
279
00:10:06,707 --> 00:10:09,276
And he said,
"Sure she actually her, bro?"
280
00:10:09,343 --> 00:10:11,545
And then you said,
"Yes, I'm sure, man."
281
00:10:11,612 --> 00:10:12,880
He said, "How though, man?
282
00:10:12,946 --> 00:10:14,615
Just don't get hurt."
283
00:10:14,681 --> 00:10:16,016
Got it.
- Hmm.
284
00:10:16,083 --> 00:10:17,851
- Hmm, well, I guess
the big question for me
285
00:10:17,918 --> 00:10:20,254
is, like, when you became
sort of official
286
00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:21,822
in a relationship in the game,
287
00:10:21,889 --> 00:10:25,025
did you guys ever talk about
being exclusive in real life?
288
00:10:25,092 --> 00:10:28,662
- Yeah, so I told her
that I had feelings for her
289
00:10:28,729 --> 00:10:30,931
and that if we kept talking
the way that we did,
290
00:10:30,998 --> 00:10:32,799
I was gonna start falling hard
for her,
291
00:10:32,866 --> 00:10:35,469
and I feel like I might have
scared her a little bit
292
00:10:35,536 --> 00:10:38,505
or however she was feeling,
she wasn't having it.
293
00:10:38,572 --> 00:10:39,907
- What did she say?
294
00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:41,241
- She didn't really
say anything.
295
00:10:41,308 --> 00:10:42,910
She just broke our relationship
in the game.
296
00:10:42,976 --> 00:10:44,178
- When was that?
297
00:10:44,244 --> 00:10:46,380
- That was,
like, five days ago.
298
00:10:46,446 --> 00:10:47,548
- Oh.
299
00:10:47,614 --> 00:10:48,782
- What's been going on
since then?
300
00:10:48,849 --> 00:10:49,983
Have you guys recovered
from that?
301
00:10:50,050 --> 00:10:51,485
- Yeah, a little bit.
302
00:10:51,552 --> 00:10:54,888
I was just like, "Look,
I'm sorry. I miss you."
303
00:10:54,955 --> 00:10:57,658
I mean, we talk.
I still care about her a lot.
304
00:10:57,724 --> 00:11:01,261
I definitely have love for her.
305
00:11:01,328 --> 00:11:02,529
- Well?
306
00:11:02,596 --> 00:11:04,264
- I'm so curious
to see what she looks like.
307
00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:07,401
- Yeah.
- Why don't you come on in?
308
00:11:07,467 --> 00:11:09,169
The confessional couch.
- Let's see it, buddy.
309
00:11:09,236 --> 00:11:10,204
- Whoa!
- Whoa.
310
00:11:10,270 --> 00:11:12,005
- Hello!
- Come on.
311
00:11:12,072 --> 00:11:14,908
- Good lord, Mark.
312
00:11:14,975 --> 00:11:16,977
Holy Jesus!
- Mark!
313
00:11:17,044 --> 00:11:18,912
Mark.
- Oh!
314
00:11:18,979 --> 00:11:22,583
- She's like a porn star.
[laughs]
315
00:11:22,649 --> 00:11:24,484
- What?
316
00:11:24,551 --> 00:11:26,520
Wow.
- Mark.
317
00:11:26,587 --> 00:11:28,956
- Is there a possibility
if you met Taylor
318
00:11:29,022 --> 00:11:30,257
and she wasn't the girl
in the picture,
319
00:11:30,324 --> 00:11:32,059
you'd still be open
to getting to know her
320
00:11:32,125 --> 00:11:33,760
and potentially giving
it a try?
321
00:11:33,827 --> 00:11:35,762
- Yeah,
I'd still be open to it.
322
00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:37,397
I mean,
I'd tell her every time.
323
00:11:37,464 --> 00:11:40,267
I'm like, I didn't fall for you
because of your looks.
324
00:11:40,334 --> 00:11:42,369
I fell for you
because of your personality,
325
00:11:42,436 --> 00:11:44,805
your mentality,
I fell in love with your mind.
326
00:11:44,872 --> 00:11:46,240
- Well, I'm curious.
- Mm-hmm.
327
00:11:46,306 --> 00:11:49,843
- So send us everything
that you do have for her.
328
00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:51,144
- We'll get
to the bottom of this.
329
00:11:51,211 --> 00:11:53,280
- We're gonna figure this out.
- I hope so.
330
00:11:53,347 --> 00:11:55,215
- Let's do it.
- Perfect.
331
00:11:55,282 --> 00:11:56,683
- Good to meet you.
- All right.
332
00:11:56,750 --> 00:11:58,418
It was great meeting you.
- Hope we can figure this out.
333
00:11:58,485 --> 00:12:01,989
- We'll see you tomorrow.
- All right.
334
00:12:02,055 --> 00:12:05,092
- Those pictures?
- Oh, my God.
335
00:12:05,158 --> 00:12:07,294
- I mean, I don't know
who that girl is, but...
336
00:12:07,361 --> 00:12:08,795
- She ain't
in that mother[bleep] game.
337
00:12:08,862 --> 00:12:10,130
- Yeah.
338
00:12:10,197 --> 00:12:11,532
- If you're already
in a virtual reality,
339
00:12:11,598 --> 00:12:13,066
you can really be anybody
that you want.
340
00:12:13,133 --> 00:12:15,202
I think that that's what's
so exciting and cool about it,
341
00:12:15,269 --> 00:12:17,504
but it's getting off the game
342
00:12:17,571 --> 00:12:20,340
and having those relationships
turn into real life scenarios
343
00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:22,809
that become difficult.
- Right.
344
00:12:22,876 --> 00:12:24,378
- It's just such a blurry line
345
00:12:24,444 --> 00:12:26,847
between fantasy and reality.
346
00:12:26,914 --> 00:12:31,185
And I'm really not sure
which side of that line
347
00:12:31,251 --> 00:12:32,553
Taylor is gonna fall on.
348
00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:39,726
- Thank you, sir.
349
00:12:39,793 --> 00:12:43,030
Wow. The service doesn't stop.
350
00:12:43,096 --> 00:12:46,867
- All right.
Let's get down to business.
351
00:12:46,934 --> 00:12:48,569
What are we trying to do here?
352
00:12:48,635 --> 00:12:53,640
So Mark met this girl
Marie Taylor in a game.
353
00:12:53,707 --> 00:12:55,909
They were casual friends
for a little while.
354
00:12:55,976 --> 00:12:58,712
Taylor ends up invited to his
virtual birthday party,
355
00:12:58,779 --> 00:13:00,113
and I guess
Mark's a little stressed.
356
00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:01,849
Is it fun?
Are people having a good time?
357
00:13:01,915 --> 00:13:03,050
She assures him that they are.
358
00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:05,085
They start chatting,
and sparks fly.
359
00:13:05,152 --> 00:13:06,720
- Yeah.
- They exchange Snapchats.
360
00:13:06,787 --> 00:13:08,622
They start snapping.
They exchange numbers.
361
00:13:08,689 --> 00:13:09,690
They start talking
on the phone.
362
00:13:09,756 --> 00:13:11,592
Long, lovely conversations.
363
00:13:11,658 --> 00:13:13,126
They have so much in common.
364
00:13:13,193 --> 00:13:15,195
Things move quick, and...
365
00:13:15,262 --> 00:13:16,663
- The photos.
366
00:13:16,730 --> 00:13:18,232
- And the photos are
of a very pretty girl.
367
00:13:18,298 --> 00:13:21,201
But is that
who he's really talking to?
368
00:13:21,268 --> 00:13:23,804
All right, let's see
if he sent us the info we want.
369
00:13:23,871 --> 00:13:25,105
Yeah, we got it.
Here we are.
370
00:13:25,172 --> 00:13:26,640
"Hey, Nev and Kamie.
371
00:13:26,707 --> 00:13:29,776
"Here's the information that
I have for you about Taylor.
372
00:13:29,843 --> 00:13:32,913
"Her name is Marie Taylor,
she's 21,
373
00:13:32,980 --> 00:13:34,648
and lives in Atlanta, Georgia."
374
00:13:34,715 --> 00:13:38,085
Her phone number, her Snap,
her Instagram,
375
00:13:38,151 --> 00:13:39,219
and her game handle.
376
00:13:39,286 --> 00:13:40,654
Wow.
He has a lot of info on her.
377
00:13:40,721 --> 00:13:43,156
"Also attaching the photos
that Taylor sent me.
378
00:13:43,223 --> 00:13:45,559
"I'll appreciate anything
that you find for me.
379
00:13:45,626 --> 00:13:47,694
Toodles, Boston Mark."
380
00:13:47,761 --> 00:13:49,863
- You have to say it
with the accent.
381
00:13:49,930 --> 00:13:51,732
"Boston Mack."
- "Boston Mack."
382
00:13:51,798 --> 00:13:52,933
All right, what do we got?
383
00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,801
Where do you wanna start,
Kamie?
384
00:13:54,868 --> 00:13:56,537
- I mean, the first thing
that pops up to me
385
00:13:56,603 --> 00:13:59,873
is that the phone number
is a Miami-based number.
386
00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:01,575
- Didn't realize you knew
your Miami...
387
00:14:01,642 --> 00:14:03,377
- Miss 305.
- Very cool.
388
00:14:03,443 --> 00:14:04,778
- I only know it
'cause of Pitbull.
389
00:14:04,845 --> 00:14:07,514
- Let's search it.
If it comes up, Marie Taylor,
390
00:14:07,581 --> 00:14:09,216
then great.
- Okay.
391
00:14:09,283 --> 00:14:12,352
- Put it in.
Here we go, searching.
392
00:14:12,419 --> 00:14:14,321
Ooh.
393
00:14:14,388 --> 00:14:16,924
Mauricio [bleep].
394
00:14:16,990 --> 00:14:19,459
- In Miami.
Interesting.
395
00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:22,629
- It says it's a landline.
- So it's a text app.
396
00:14:22,696 --> 00:14:24,498
- And a Facebook page.
397
00:14:24,565 --> 00:14:26,466
- Oh.
- Oh.
398
00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:28,969
- No.
No.
399
00:14:29,036 --> 00:14:31,805
Okay, well, this could be her.
- No.
400
00:14:31,872 --> 00:14:34,074
He would know if he was talking
to Mauricio.
401
00:14:34,141 --> 00:14:36,009
- Interesting, let's search
on the another website.
402
00:14:36,076 --> 00:14:39,947
Okay, so potential owners,
Mauricio [bleep].
403
00:14:40,013 --> 00:14:42,082
Philip [bleep],
Belinda [bleep].
404
00:14:42,149 --> 00:14:44,852
- Marie Taylor!
- Oh, my God!
405
00:14:44,918 --> 00:14:48,689
Marie Taylor!
Look at that.
406
00:14:48,755 --> 00:14:51,859
It says "Marie Taylor."
- Wow, okay.
407
00:14:51,925 --> 00:14:53,660
- No information though.
408
00:14:53,727 --> 00:14:55,462
No social media either.
- Yeah.
409
00:14:55,529 --> 00:14:58,565
- Marie Taylor's just too
common of a name to search.
410
00:14:58,632 --> 00:15:00,767
But the fact
that her name comes up
411
00:15:00,834 --> 00:15:03,737
with the phone number is good,
I guess, right?
412
00:15:03,804 --> 00:15:05,506
- Yeah.
- All right.
413
00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:07,574
Let's pick out her Instagram.
414
00:15:07,641 --> 00:15:09,409
Here we go.
There she is.
415
00:15:09,476 --> 00:15:12,579
So 13 posts, 3,200 followers.
416
00:15:12,646 --> 00:15:14,481
- Wow.
- A lot of comments.
417
00:15:14,548 --> 00:15:15,949
- Wow.
418
00:15:16,016 --> 00:15:17,017
- Oh, and then she's got
a bunch of stories.
419
00:15:17,084 --> 00:15:18,318
One from Atlanta,
one from Florida,
420
00:15:18,385 --> 00:15:20,220
one from Los Angeles,
Bahamas, Las Vegas,
421
00:15:20,287 --> 00:15:21,722
New York City, Toronto.
They keep going.
422
00:15:21,788 --> 00:15:23,524
- She's on jets honey.
423
00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:25,559
She ain't
in that dorm room game.
424
00:15:25,626 --> 00:15:27,694
She's not.
- Doesn't feel like it.
425
00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:29,663
Wouldn't make sense.
426
00:15:29,730 --> 00:15:31,865
If I didn't know
to be suspicious of this girl,
427
00:15:31,932 --> 00:15:33,033
I wouldn't necessary think
428
00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:34,701
this wasn't
a real Instagram account.
429
00:15:34,768 --> 00:15:36,203
I think we gotta search
the photos as well.
430
00:15:36,270 --> 00:15:37,871
- Okay.
- Right?
431
00:15:37,938 --> 00:15:40,073
- Yeah.
- What's our best face pic?
432
00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:43,477
That one's pretty good, right?
433
00:15:43,544 --> 00:15:48,182
All right, let's do
the facial recognition search.
434
00:15:48,248 --> 00:15:51,919
Boom.
- Mm-hmm.
435
00:15:51,985 --> 00:15:54,655
- Oh, okay.
We got some hits on that.
436
00:15:54,721 --> 00:15:56,857
What is this?
437
00:15:56,924 --> 00:15:58,859
Marilyn Monroe scent?
What?
438
00:15:58,926 --> 00:16:01,195
Oh, here we go.
What's this?
439
00:16:01,261 --> 00:16:03,030
Contact info.
440
00:16:03,096 --> 00:16:04,898
Should we look up this number?
441
00:16:04,965 --> 00:16:08,202
470...
[bleep]
442
00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:09,670
[dramatic music]
443
00:16:09,736 --> 00:16:13,207
- One potential owner.
- No!
444
00:16:13,273 --> 00:16:16,777
No, no, no, no, no.
445
00:16:16,844 --> 00:16:18,478
- I guess it's her.
446
00:16:18,545 --> 00:16:20,848
- No.
No.
447
00:16:20,914 --> 00:16:23,417
[upbeat music]
448
00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:24,952
No.
449
00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:27,421
At this exact moment,
I'd have to say
450
00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:31,225
we've only confirmed
that she could be real.
451
00:16:31,291 --> 00:16:33,760
We've found nothing to suggest
she's lying.
452
00:16:33,827 --> 00:16:35,128
- I'm confused.
453
00:16:36,496 --> 00:16:37,631
- Let's just think about this.
454
00:16:37,698 --> 00:16:39,466
Could we be missing
something here?
455
00:16:39,533 --> 00:16:40,767
Is there a chance
456
00:16:40,834 --> 00:16:43,270
someone's just impersonating
this girl online?
457
00:16:43,337 --> 00:16:46,106
This might be
the real girl's Instagram,
458
00:16:46,173 --> 00:16:47,374
but that doesn't mean
that he's talking to her,
459
00:16:47,441 --> 00:16:48,575
'cause they don't interact
on Instagram.
460
00:16:48,642 --> 00:16:49,877
- Right.
461
00:16:49,943 --> 00:16:51,078
- The only interact
through the game...
462
00:16:51,144 --> 00:16:52,679
[together]
And Snapchat.
463
00:16:52,746 --> 00:16:54,081
- So this could just be
the real girl.
464
00:16:54,147 --> 00:16:55,382
- Yeah.
465
00:16:55,449 --> 00:16:57,117
- But that's just not
who he's talking to
466
00:16:57,184 --> 00:17:00,220
'cause the picture
that we search of her,
467
00:17:00,287 --> 00:17:02,055
which we took off
her real Instagram,
468
00:17:02,122 --> 00:17:03,790
brought us
to another phone number.
469
00:17:03,857 --> 00:17:05,993
That might be
her real phone number.
470
00:17:06,059 --> 00:17:08,161
The real girl.
- Mm.
471
00:17:08,228 --> 00:17:10,597
- The phone number he has...
- Mm.
472
00:17:10,664 --> 00:17:11,798
- Which is a text app,
473
00:17:11,865 --> 00:17:13,433
she may have
cleverly registered
474
00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:15,536
to the real girl's name.
475
00:17:15,602 --> 00:17:17,671
We haven't found anything
476
00:17:17,738 --> 00:17:19,473
that he has
that he communicates
477
00:17:19,540 --> 00:17:20,607
with her...
- Right.
478
00:17:20,674 --> 00:17:22,476
- That links back
to the real girl.
479
00:17:22,543 --> 00:17:23,644
- There is a real girl.
480
00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:24,878
Her name looks
like it is Marie Taylor.
481
00:17:24,945 --> 00:17:26,413
She's the girl in the pictures.
- Right.
482
00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,415
- We don't know
if that's who he talked to.
483
00:17:28,482 --> 00:17:29,683
- Right.
484
00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:31,218
- Whew.
Wow, what a roller coaster.
485
00:17:31,285 --> 00:17:34,388
- I--it's her! It's not her.
Could it be her?
486
00:17:34,454 --> 00:17:35,455
We don't know.
487
00:17:35,522 --> 00:17:37,090
- That is a real girl.
488
00:17:37,157 --> 00:17:39,526
There's no way this
is who Mark's talking to.
489
00:17:44,531 --> 00:17:47,835
[soft dramatic music]
490
00:17:47,901 --> 00:17:48,836
- Oh, boy.
491
00:17:50,437 --> 00:17:52,072
- Hey.
- Hello!
492
00:17:52,139 --> 00:17:53,740
- How's it going?
- Look at Mark!
493
00:17:53,807 --> 00:17:55,108
We got work to do.
494
00:17:55,175 --> 00:17:56,810
Things to discuss.
495
00:17:56,877 --> 00:17:58,745
- All righty.
496
00:17:58,812 --> 00:17:59,880
- How's it going, man?
497
00:17:59,947 --> 00:18:01,481
- It's going.
How are you today?
498
00:18:01,548 --> 00:18:03,183
- Good.
I didn't think about this,
499
00:18:03,250 --> 00:18:05,252
but does Taylor know
you're in L. A.?
500
00:18:05,319 --> 00:18:07,120
- No, she's doesn't.
501
00:18:07,187 --> 00:18:08,288
- Have you talked
to her at all?
502
00:18:08,355 --> 00:18:09,523
- Not really.
503
00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:11,825
- We had
a pretty exciting morning...
504
00:18:11,892 --> 00:18:14,328
- All righty.
- Researching your lady friend.
505
00:18:14,394 --> 00:18:15,696
- Mm-hmm.
506
00:18:15,762 --> 00:18:17,130
- So why don't
we just walk you through
507
00:18:17,197 --> 00:18:19,800
what we found?
Everyone slide in.
508
00:18:19,867 --> 00:18:22,803
So we started
with the phone number.
509
00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:26,073
The first thing that came up
was a man's name.
510
00:18:26,139 --> 00:18:28,075
Mauricio [bleep].
511
00:18:28,141 --> 00:18:30,544
This is Mauricio [bleep].
512
00:18:32,012 --> 00:18:33,747
- You think you would know
the difference
513
00:18:33,814 --> 00:18:36,316
between her voice
and his voice?
514
00:18:36,383 --> 00:18:37,751
- Yeah.
515
00:18:37,818 --> 00:18:39,219
- I don't think
this is who you're talking to.
516
00:18:39,286 --> 00:18:41,121
- I don't think it is either.
517
00:18:41,188 --> 00:18:42,589
- So but then check this out.
518
00:18:42,656 --> 00:18:45,425
The website came up
with multiple potential owners,
519
00:18:45,492 --> 00:18:49,196
and one potential owner,
Marie Taylor.
520
00:18:49,263 --> 00:18:51,064
So that felt like a good sign.
521
00:18:51,131 --> 00:18:55,135
But no info, no age,
no address, no nothing.
522
00:18:55,202 --> 00:18:57,905
But it looks like
it's a text app,
523
00:18:57,971 --> 00:19:00,340
so then we went
to her Instagram account
524
00:19:00,407 --> 00:19:01,808
that you gave us.
525
00:19:01,875 --> 00:19:03,210
Here's where
it gets interesting.
526
00:19:03,277 --> 00:19:05,646
When we screenshot pictures
from her Instagram,
527
00:19:05,712 --> 00:19:07,781
specifically this one,
528
00:19:07,848 --> 00:19:09,716
and we ran them
in an image search,
529
00:19:09,783 --> 00:19:12,252
we got one interesting hit.
530
00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:15,022
So we went to that website,
"Marylin Monroe Scent."
531
00:19:15,088 --> 00:19:16,723
We weren't sure
how any of this related,
532
00:19:16,790 --> 00:19:18,025
but then,
when we scrolled down,
533
00:19:18,091 --> 00:19:20,194
all of a sudden
we saw the picture.
534
00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:21,495
- Mm-hmm.
535
00:19:21,562 --> 00:19:23,463
- In the photo,
there's a phone number.
536
00:19:23,530 --> 00:19:26,433
So I said,
let's just see what that is.
537
00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:27,768
Let's run that phone number
538
00:19:27,835 --> 00:19:29,102
'cause it's obviously
not the same phone number
539
00:19:29,169 --> 00:19:30,437
you have...
- Right.
540
00:19:30,504 --> 00:19:31,905
- For Taylor.
So check this out.
541
00:19:31,972 --> 00:19:34,875
So we ran the phone number,
and look what we found.
542
00:19:34,942 --> 00:19:36,543
- Marie Taylor.
543
00:19:36,610 --> 00:19:38,879
- Potential owner,
Marie Taylor.
544
00:19:38,946 --> 00:19:40,514
Now all of a sudden,
we're like, wait a second.
545
00:19:40,581 --> 00:19:44,918
We've now found two numbers
connected to Marie Taylor
546
00:19:44,985 --> 00:19:48,555
that both seem to related to--
one to a phone of her,
547
00:19:48,622 --> 00:19:49,890
one's the number you have.
548
00:19:49,957 --> 00:19:52,125
Like,
is this all just strangely
549
00:19:52,192 --> 00:19:54,328
pointing to the simple truth
550
00:19:54,394 --> 00:19:56,930
that she is just exactly
who she says she is?
551
00:19:56,997 --> 00:20:00,267
But...
- "But." There's always a but.
552
00:20:00,334 --> 00:20:01,935
- Well, the "but" in this case
553
00:20:02,002 --> 00:20:05,072
is we still can't explain why,
if it's her,
554
00:20:05,138 --> 00:20:07,674
why couldn't she send you a...
- Personal photo.
555
00:20:07,741 --> 00:20:10,143
- Personal photo or video?
556
00:20:10,210 --> 00:20:12,346
She seems like the kind
of person who could do that.
557
00:20:12,412 --> 00:20:13,680
- Right.
558
00:20:13,747 --> 00:20:16,617
- So what are the possibilities
559
00:20:16,683 --> 00:20:19,653
that Marie Taylor's real,
that's her Instagram,
560
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,688
she's the girl in the pictures,
but you're just talking
561
00:20:21,755 --> 00:20:25,359
to someone else who's
essentially impersonating her,
562
00:20:25,425 --> 00:20:27,995
who registered her number
under her name,
563
00:20:28,061 --> 00:20:30,464
which then makes me think,
well, then if it's not her,
564
00:20:30,531 --> 00:20:32,366
it's just someone
entirely different,
565
00:20:32,432 --> 00:20:34,001
and we have no idea
who it is then.
566
00:20:34,067 --> 00:20:35,369
- Right.
567
00:20:35,435 --> 00:20:37,604
- Sadly, that's
what we think is happening,
568
00:20:37,671 --> 00:20:39,640
that you're not talking
to this girl.
569
00:20:39,706 --> 00:20:43,210
That's where we got,
we were so surprised
570
00:20:43,277 --> 00:20:45,312
and uncertain
about what it all meant,
571
00:20:45,379 --> 00:20:46,713
we wanted to come over,
talk to you,
572
00:20:46,780 --> 00:20:48,715
try to get your gauge on it
to see what you thought.
573
00:20:48,782 --> 00:20:51,218
What's your, kind of,
gut telling you?
574
00:20:51,285 --> 00:20:53,554
- Um, my gut is telling me...
575
00:20:55,389 --> 00:20:57,491
that...
576
00:20:57,558 --> 00:21:01,061
I'm talking to the person
that I think I'm talking to.
577
00:21:01,128 --> 00:21:03,263
Or the actual person.
578
00:21:03,330 --> 00:21:05,532
- I mean,
but the concern is always,
579
00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:07,734
if it is the real person
that you're talking to,
580
00:21:07,801 --> 00:21:09,503
what has been keeping them
581
00:21:09,570 --> 00:21:11,572
from furthering
your conversations?
582
00:21:11,638 --> 00:21:13,907
What's been keeping them
from getting on Facetime?
583
00:21:13,974 --> 00:21:15,242
- Right.
584
00:21:15,309 --> 00:21:17,578
It's a lot to take in
and a lot to think about.
585
00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:18,979
- All right,
well, here we are now,
586
00:21:19,046 --> 00:21:23,517
so typically this would be
the opportunity for us
587
00:21:23,584 --> 00:21:26,854
to message her
via the phone number you have.
588
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,423
Let me just draft something,
and you can talk about it.
589
00:21:29,489 --> 00:21:30,624
- All righty.
590
00:21:30,691 --> 00:21:34,661
- "This is Nev from 'Catfish.'
591
00:21:34,728 --> 00:21:38,599
"I'm with Mark here in L. A.
592
00:21:38,665 --> 00:21:42,870
"Would love to work
with you guys
593
00:21:42,936 --> 00:21:44,471
"on a meet up.
594
00:21:44,538 --> 00:21:46,240
"Let me know when you can chat
for a minute
595
00:21:46,306 --> 00:21:47,508
so we can figure this out."
596
00:21:47,574 --> 00:21:48,742
- Smiley face.
- That good?
597
00:21:48,809 --> 00:21:50,043
Does that sound okay to you?
598
00:21:50,110 --> 00:21:52,279
- That sounds perfect.
- All right.
599
00:21:52,346 --> 00:21:54,114
- I'm gonna send it.
600
00:21:54,181 --> 00:21:55,349
All right,
let's give her a few minutes.
601
00:21:55,415 --> 00:21:56,683
See if she writes back.
602
00:21:56,750 --> 00:22:01,088
- There is on more--
603
00:22:01,154 --> 00:22:03,857
way that we might be able to--
- Oh, come--
604
00:22:03,924 --> 00:22:05,526
Get in contact with her.
- Snap?
605
00:22:05,592 --> 00:22:06,960
- Yeah, because...
606
00:22:07,027 --> 00:22:09,663
- Sorry, we thought you were
about to drop a bomb.
607
00:22:09,730 --> 00:22:13,300
- There is just one more thing.
- Oh, my God.
608
00:22:13,367 --> 00:22:14,701
- I was gonna say, please.
609
00:22:14,768 --> 00:22:16,036
- Yeah, let's try the Snapchat.
610
00:22:16,103 --> 00:22:17,971
Why don't we take a picture,
the three of us,
611
00:22:18,038 --> 00:22:20,574
and then you text it to her
and just say, like, hey...
612
00:22:20,641 --> 00:22:22,442
- You wanna put a filter on,
no filter?
613
00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:25,045
- Always a filter.
- Always a filter.
614
00:22:25,112 --> 00:22:27,848
I said, "Hey,
I know Nev just texted you.
615
00:22:27,915 --> 00:22:29,783
Get back to me when you can,
doll."
616
00:22:29,850 --> 00:22:31,952
- All right, I will keep an eye
on my phone.
617
00:22:32,019 --> 00:22:33,520
Hopefully we hear back
from her.
618
00:22:33,587 --> 00:22:34,888
- Mm-hmm.
- Check in.
619
00:22:34,955 --> 00:22:36,256
And then we'll be able
to make a plan.
620
00:22:36,323 --> 00:22:38,325
- All righty.
621
00:22:38,392 --> 00:22:39,693
- All right.
622
00:22:41,929 --> 00:22:43,730
All right, hang in there.
- All righty.
623
00:22:43,797 --> 00:22:45,365
- Hopefully we'll have some
good news soon.
624
00:22:45,432 --> 00:22:47,234
- All right.
- Later, bud.
625
00:22:47,301 --> 00:22:48,702
- All right, have a good one.
- See you tomorrow.
626
00:22:48,769 --> 00:22:50,270
- See you tomorrow.
627
00:22:50,337 --> 00:22:52,239
[dramatic music]
628
00:22:52,306 --> 00:22:53,807
- He just seems
629
00:22:53,874 --> 00:22:57,744
like he's totally stunned.
630
00:22:57,811 --> 00:22:59,880
- Well, 'cause I think
that he thinks that it's her,
631
00:22:59,947 --> 00:23:01,615
but I don't want
to put that in his head.
632
00:23:01,682 --> 00:23:03,183
- Right, well,
I think he's shocked
633
00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:06,353
that we didn't immediately
find evidence
634
00:23:06,420 --> 00:23:07,554
that it's not her.
- Right.
635
00:23:07,621 --> 00:23:09,423
- But then that raises
new questions,
636
00:23:09,489 --> 00:23:12,860
which is, well, if it is her,
what's with the weird behavior?
637
00:23:12,926 --> 00:23:14,695
I don't know what to think.
638
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,168
- Good morning.
- Hello. Good morning.
639
00:23:21,235 --> 00:23:23,337
All right, anything?
640
00:23:23,403 --> 00:23:25,606
Did you check the phone?
- There's nothing.
641
00:23:25,672 --> 00:23:27,207
- Nothing?
- Yeah.
642
00:23:27,274 --> 00:23:28,375
- All right, let's call Mark
643
00:23:28,442 --> 00:23:29,610
'cause maybe
he's heard something.
644
00:23:29,676 --> 00:23:32,779
Either way,
get this show on the road.
645
00:23:32,846 --> 00:23:34,515
[tense music]
646
00:23:35,649 --> 00:23:36,917
- Hey, morning, Mark.
647
00:23:36,984 --> 00:23:38,418
- What's up, Mark?
648
00:23:38,485 --> 00:23:40,120
- You sound
surprisingly chipper.
649
00:23:40,187 --> 00:23:41,488
What's going on?
650
00:23:47,427 --> 00:23:49,463
- Uh-huh.
Any response?
651
00:23:51,465 --> 00:23:53,267
- Okay.
- Okay, so that's progress.
652
00:23:53,333 --> 00:23:54,635
- Right.
- Great, all right.
653
00:23:54,701 --> 00:23:56,336
- Okay, great,
'cause we don't have any update
654
00:23:56,403 --> 00:23:58,338
on our end, but that is good.
655
00:23:58,405 --> 00:24:00,174
The door is open
to communicate.
656
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,775
- It's cracked.
- Sit tight.
657
00:24:01,842 --> 00:24:02,943
We're gonna head over.
658
00:24:03,010 --> 00:24:04,211
I don't know
if we have to go to Vegas
659
00:24:04,278 --> 00:24:05,679
or if she can come here, or...
660
00:24:07,114 --> 00:24:08,148
- All right,
we'll see you soon.
661
00:24:11,218 --> 00:24:13,620
All right, let's hit the road.
662
00:24:15,222 --> 00:24:18,725
I think he is feeling
very confident.
663
00:24:18,792 --> 00:24:20,260
- Maybe too confident?
664
00:24:20,327 --> 00:24:22,496
- Well, I'm concerned because
I still don't feel like
665
00:24:22,563 --> 00:24:25,065
there's any real hard evidence
suggesting it's her.
666
00:24:25,132 --> 00:24:27,968
My gut still tells me there's
some weird sort of firewall
667
00:24:28,035 --> 00:24:29,169
between the girl
he's talking to
668
00:24:29,236 --> 00:24:31,038
and the actual girl.
- Mm-hmm.
669
00:24:31,104 --> 00:24:33,140
- And now I think
his hopes are up higher
670
00:24:33,207 --> 00:24:34,842
than they might have
been before.
671
00:24:34,908 --> 00:24:37,077
- Yeah,
he sounded very excited.
672
00:24:37,144 --> 00:24:38,145
[phone chimes]
673
00:24:38,212 --> 00:24:39,179
- Oh.
- Whoa.
674
00:24:39,246 --> 00:24:41,715
Who's that?
Is that her?
675
00:24:41,782 --> 00:24:43,050
What'd she say?
676
00:24:43,116 --> 00:24:44,184
[phone chimes]
677
00:24:44,251 --> 00:24:46,353
Another message?
Wait, read it to me.
678
00:24:46,420 --> 00:24:48,088
- "When did he get to L. A.?
679
00:24:48,155 --> 00:24:49,756
"Why is he here?
680
00:24:49,823 --> 00:24:51,225
"Never mind, it doesn't matter.
681
00:24:51,291 --> 00:24:53,060
I'm not meeting up.
This won't be good."
682
00:24:53,126 --> 00:24:54,094
- What?
683
00:24:54,161 --> 00:24:56,163
- Wait, "why is he here?"
684
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:58,565
- "Why is he here?"
- That means she's here.
685
00:24:58,632 --> 00:25:00,000
Right?
686
00:25:00,067 --> 00:25:02,469
She said "It doesn't matter.
"She's not meeting up.
687
00:25:02,536 --> 00:25:04,705
This won't be good."
- Huh.
688
00:25:04,771 --> 00:25:07,574
- I'm gonna say,
"Why do you say that?"
689
00:25:07,641 --> 00:25:10,077
- Yeah, "What makes you..."
- "What makes you say that?"
690
00:25:10,143 --> 00:25:12,980
- "What makes you say that?"
- Sent.
691
00:25:13,046 --> 00:25:16,250
♪♪ ♪♪
692
00:25:16,316 --> 00:25:17,651
- Hello.
- Hey, how's it going?
693
00:25:17,718 --> 00:25:18,785
- There he is.
694
00:25:18,852 --> 00:25:20,020
- Going to the back today.
695
00:25:20,087 --> 00:25:22,489
I guess
it's a nice cool, cloudy day.
696
00:25:22,556 --> 00:25:24,658
- Lovely.
697
00:25:24,725 --> 00:25:29,263
- All right, well,
anything since we spoke?
698
00:25:29,329 --> 00:25:30,664
- No, nothing.
699
00:25:30,731 --> 00:25:32,399
- Okay, well,
we have a little update.
700
00:25:32,466 --> 00:25:34,168
On our way over here,
she wrote back.
701
00:25:34,234 --> 00:25:36,503
"When did he get to L. A.?
702
00:25:36,570 --> 00:25:37,938
"Why is he here?
703
00:25:38,005 --> 00:25:40,807
"Never mind, doesn't matter.
I'm not meeting up.
704
00:25:40,874 --> 00:25:43,110
This won't be good."
705
00:25:43,177 --> 00:25:45,846
So we wrote back,
"What makes you say that?"
706
00:25:45,913 --> 00:25:47,281
And she hasn't responded.
707
00:25:47,347 --> 00:25:49,316
What do you make of all that?
708
00:25:50,617 --> 00:25:54,087
- It's a lot to take in, but...
709
00:25:56,323 --> 00:25:58,125
I don't know.
710
00:25:58,192 --> 00:25:59,793
- But we wanna know,
what does she mean
711
00:25:59,860 --> 00:26:01,328
by "Why is he here?"
712
00:26:01,395 --> 00:26:03,030
She's supposed to be in Vegas.
713
00:26:03,096 --> 00:26:05,399
- That's right, sounds like
if we analyze her response--
714
00:26:05,465 --> 00:26:09,169
- Sounds like she's--
she's here in L. A. too.
715
00:26:09,236 --> 00:26:10,537
- But, like,
what does she mean
716
00:26:10,604 --> 00:26:13,407
by "This won't be good."
- I don't know.
717
00:26:13,473 --> 00:26:15,142
- Well, if it's not her,
718
00:26:15,209 --> 00:26:16,543
and she's worried
that when you see
719
00:26:16,610 --> 00:26:18,779
who she really is,
you'll be upset,
720
00:26:18,846 --> 00:26:21,215
maybe that's what she means.
- Maybe.
721
00:26:21,281 --> 00:26:22,749
- How are you feeling now?
722
00:26:22,816 --> 00:26:25,052
Like, I hate to rain
on your parade with this
723
00:26:25,118 --> 00:26:27,654
'cause you sounded
excited earlier.
724
00:26:27,721 --> 00:26:30,257
- Yeah, I mean, I was.
I...
725
00:26:30,324 --> 00:26:33,460
I was nervous and excited,
726
00:26:33,527 --> 00:26:37,631
and I was ready
to have some closure,
727
00:26:37,698 --> 00:26:41,134
and now I'm back to step one.
728
00:26:41,201 --> 00:26:43,670
[somber music]
729
00:26:43,737 --> 00:26:44,938
I don't know.
730
00:26:45,005 --> 00:26:48,475
♪♪ ♪♪
731
00:26:48,542 --> 00:26:50,310
Can I take a minute, please?
732
00:26:50,377 --> 00:26:51,979
Actually, bro?
- Sure.
733
00:26:52,045 --> 00:26:54,481
- ♪♪ Fall in love
before we were ready ♪♪
734
00:26:54,548 --> 00:26:58,418
♪♪ Did we both give up
before we were steady? ♪♪
735
00:26:58,485 --> 00:26:59,987
♪♪ I don't know, I don't know ♪♪
736
00:27:00,053 --> 00:27:04,458
♪♪ All I know
is that now I'm alone ♪♪
737
00:27:04,525 --> 00:27:06,860
- I don't think
he liked hearing that message.
738
00:27:08,262 --> 00:27:09,429
What's he doing?
739
00:27:11,131 --> 00:27:12,266
- He's smoking.
740
00:27:12,332 --> 00:27:15,669
♪♪ ♪♪
741
00:27:15,736 --> 00:27:18,539
- If it's not her,
how are we gonna handle that?
742
00:27:18,605 --> 00:27:21,341
- I mean, I just hope
she writes back.
743
00:27:21,408 --> 00:27:25,445
Either way, he has to,
like, deal with this
744
00:27:25,512 --> 00:27:29,650
he's obviously more invested
than he wants to show.
745
00:27:29,716 --> 00:27:32,553
- You can tell.
- Ah, [bleep].
746
00:27:32,619 --> 00:27:36,256
- ♪♪ Everything's over ♪♪
747
00:27:36,323 --> 00:27:38,458
♪♪ Without any closure ♪♪
748
00:27:44,164 --> 00:27:48,001
- He's obviously more invested
that he wants to show.
749
00:27:48,068 --> 00:27:52,539
- You can tell.
- Ah, [bleep].
750
00:27:52,606 --> 00:27:55,375
[somber music]
751
00:27:55,442 --> 00:27:57,544
All right.
752
00:27:57,611 --> 00:28:00,514
♪♪ ♪♪
753
00:28:00,581 --> 00:28:03,250
- Thank you.
- No problem.
754
00:28:04,785 --> 00:28:06,820
Well, what are you feeling
right now?
755
00:28:06,887 --> 00:28:08,755
I'm not trying to pry,
756
00:28:08,822 --> 00:28:10,991
but I feel like
overall you've had, like,
757
00:28:11,058 --> 00:28:12,726
a very optimistic vibe,
758
00:28:12,793 --> 00:28:14,328
but, like,
it's clear you're feeling
759
00:28:14,394 --> 00:28:17,664
some kind of way right now.
Do you mind talking about that?
760
00:28:17,731 --> 00:28:19,499
- I don't mind.
761
00:28:19,566 --> 00:28:23,704
I mean, I've struggled
with anxiety most of my life.
762
00:28:25,072 --> 00:28:27,574
So sometimes in situations
like these,
763
00:28:27,641 --> 00:28:30,110
it flares up.
It just--my mind starts racing.
764
00:28:30,177 --> 00:28:31,845
I start thinking
about one thing,
765
00:28:31,912 --> 00:28:34,948
and then all these thoughts
and everything
766
00:28:35,015 --> 00:28:36,350
just jumble up together,
767
00:28:36,416 --> 00:28:39,319
and they're running around
in a mosh pit in my head.
768
00:28:39,386 --> 00:28:42,623
I'm thinking
about what she said,
769
00:28:42,689 --> 00:28:46,460
thinking of why she would say
something like that,
770
00:28:46,527 --> 00:28:49,263
why is she feeling that way?
771
00:28:49,329 --> 00:28:52,432
I mean, I'm sure
that she's feeling anxiety
772
00:28:52,499 --> 00:28:54,468
and she's nervous as well.
773
00:28:54,535 --> 00:28:58,038
- Well, if she wanted
to ghost us and not respond,
774
00:28:58,105 --> 00:28:59,640
she could've done that,
775
00:28:59,706 --> 00:29:04,444
but she texted us back, so it
feels like there's an opening.
776
00:29:04,511 --> 00:29:06,813
[phone chiming]
777
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,382
- No.
778
00:29:08,448 --> 00:29:10,517
- It's her calling?
Oh, my God.
779
00:29:10,584 --> 00:29:12,920
- [laughs]
- Hello?
780
00:29:15,489 --> 00:29:17,224
- Yeah, hi.
781
00:29:33,607 --> 00:29:34,842
- Okay, great.
782
00:29:34,908 --> 00:29:37,311
Uh, are you in Los Angeles?
783
00:29:39,613 --> 00:29:41,048
- Oh, okay, great.
784
00:29:41,114 --> 00:29:43,383
Yeah, we're here, ready to go,
and excited to meet up.
785
00:29:43,450 --> 00:29:46,386
So send the address,
and we'll head over.
786
00:29:47,487 --> 00:29:48,989
- Okay, thanks.
787
00:29:50,958 --> 00:29:54,661
- Oh, my God.
- What?
788
00:29:54,728 --> 00:29:56,063
- I get the voice now.
789
00:29:56,129 --> 00:30:00,934
It's definitely--
has to be a put-on voice.
790
00:30:01,001 --> 00:30:02,369
It sounds like a character.
791
00:30:02,436 --> 00:30:04,071
- Wow, okay.
- It sounds like a character.
792
00:30:04,137 --> 00:30:05,739
- That's the voice
I was talking about.
793
00:30:05,806 --> 00:30:06,907
- That's your girl, Mark.
794
00:30:06,974 --> 00:30:08,775
- Is it gonna be her?
795
00:30:08,842 --> 00:30:11,011
- No.
- I don't know.
796
00:30:11,078 --> 00:30:12,412
- It sounds like a character.
797
00:30:12,479 --> 00:30:15,048
'Cause why has she been
so shady if it is her?
798
00:30:15,115 --> 00:30:17,017
[phone chimes]
- Oh.
799
00:30:17,084 --> 00:30:19,686
Okay.
- We have an address?
800
00:30:19,753 --> 00:30:21,054
- Where is it?
801
00:30:21,121 --> 00:30:22,556
- Encino.
- Oh.
802
00:30:22,623 --> 00:30:24,024
[phone chimes]
803
00:30:24,091 --> 00:30:25,459
- She said, "Just text me
when you get here."
804
00:30:25,526 --> 00:30:28,662
- Is that her house?
- I don't know.
805
00:30:28,729 --> 00:30:31,131
- I'm stunned.
- All right.
806
00:30:32,232 --> 00:30:34,434
Let's roll out.
- Let's roll out.
807
00:30:34,501 --> 00:30:36,103
- Jump in the front.
808
00:30:38,805 --> 00:30:40,541
All right.
- All right.
809
00:30:40,607 --> 00:30:43,277
- Ready?
- No.
810
00:30:43,343 --> 00:30:44,711
- Too bad.
811
00:30:44,778 --> 00:30:46,813
- Are you still thinking
that we're gonna see the girl
812
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,916
from the pictures?
813
00:30:48,982 --> 00:30:50,150
- I hope so.
814
00:30:50,217 --> 00:30:51,985
- You still think
it could be her?
815
00:30:52,052 --> 00:30:53,287
- I think it could be.
816
00:30:53,353 --> 00:30:55,289
There's a possibility
that it is.
817
00:30:55,355 --> 00:30:58,492
- I think the chances of her
being the girl in the pictures
818
00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:01,461
are very slim.
819
00:31:01,528 --> 00:31:03,931
I think the chances of her
having lied to you though
820
00:31:03,997 --> 00:31:05,999
are very high.
821
00:31:06,066 --> 00:31:08,368
- Okay, we turn here,
822
00:31:08,435 --> 00:31:11,038
and then we turn one more time,
and we're there.
823
00:31:11,104 --> 00:31:12,306
Yeah, this is the street.
824
00:31:14,608 --> 00:31:16,310
Yeah, there it is.
825
00:31:16,376 --> 00:31:19,680
This is, like,
a super nice place to live.
826
00:31:19,746 --> 00:31:21,148
- The light's on in there.
827
00:31:21,215 --> 00:31:23,483
- You see something?
- The light, the chandelier.
828
00:31:25,586 --> 00:31:27,855
- Well, oh, wait,
I'm supposed to text her.
829
00:31:27,921 --> 00:31:31,391
Okay, "hey, we just parked."
830
00:31:31,458 --> 00:31:34,761
[dramatic music]
831
00:31:34,828 --> 00:31:36,296
- Let's go knock.
- All right.
832
00:31:36,363 --> 00:31:38,332
Let's do this. You ready?
- Ready.
833
00:31:38,398 --> 00:31:39,499
- Yeah.
834
00:31:39,566 --> 00:31:43,837
♪♪ ♪♪
835
00:31:43,904 --> 00:31:45,739
- I feel like
this is the main door.
836
00:31:45,806 --> 00:31:46,974
- This one?
- That gives me...
837
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,208
- I think you're right,
you're right.
838
00:31:48,275 --> 00:31:49,243
- That looks
almost like a side rental.
839
00:31:49,309 --> 00:31:50,377
- Yeah.
840
00:31:51,845 --> 00:31:53,347
[doorbell chimes]
841
00:31:57,284 --> 00:31:58,452
- Chills.
842
00:32:00,921 --> 00:32:01,922
[phone chimes]
843
00:32:01,989 --> 00:32:03,090
- Oh.
844
00:32:03,156 --> 00:32:06,159
She said, "Come in.
The door's open.
845
00:32:06,226 --> 00:32:08,028
I'll be right out."
846
00:32:08,095 --> 00:32:10,097
- No.
[laughs]
847
00:32:10,163 --> 00:32:11,765
- Hold on, let me check it out.
848
00:32:11,832 --> 00:32:13,667
- This is
a stranger's home, Nev.
849
00:32:13,734 --> 00:32:15,135
- She invited us in.
850
00:32:15,202 --> 00:32:18,205
- This is a stranger's home.
- I'm not gonna--hello?
851
00:32:18,272 --> 00:32:21,475
Hello?
- I don't like what I'm seeing.
852
00:32:22,876 --> 00:32:25,279
- It's very nice.
- I don't care.
853
00:32:26,647 --> 00:32:28,415
That is so weird.
854
00:32:28,482 --> 00:32:31,185
You wanna go in there?
- Hello?
855
00:32:31,251 --> 00:32:32,586
- Of course you do.
- I don't know.
856
00:32:32,653 --> 00:32:33,954
- Of course you do.
857
00:32:34,021 --> 00:32:35,556
[whispering]
What the [bleep]?
858
00:32:35,622 --> 00:32:37,457
That's so weird.
859
00:32:37,524 --> 00:32:39,193
- Hello?
- Marie?
860
00:32:44,231 --> 00:32:46,700
- Hello?
- You wanna go in there?
861
00:32:46,767 --> 00:32:47,968
- Hello?
862
00:32:48,035 --> 00:32:49,436
- I don't know.
863
00:32:49,503 --> 00:32:51,138
- [whispering]
What the [bleep]?
864
00:32:51,205 --> 00:32:53,440
- Hello?
- Marie?
865
00:32:53,507 --> 00:32:55,175
Hello?
- I'll be right out.
866
00:32:55,242 --> 00:32:56,643
- Oh, okay.
867
00:32:58,679 --> 00:33:01,548
- [whispering]
She said she'd be right out.
868
00:33:01,615 --> 00:33:03,317
- This is giving
"Dateline" NBC.
869
00:33:03,383 --> 00:33:05,018
- Well...
870
00:33:05,085 --> 00:33:06,520
- And the police are outside,
and they're gonna come get us.
871
00:33:06,587 --> 00:33:09,122
- This is really nice.
872
00:33:11,658 --> 00:33:15,429
- Hello?
Hi.
873
00:33:18,131 --> 00:33:19,766
Hi.
- Hi.
874
00:33:19,833 --> 00:33:20,801
- Hi.
875
00:33:20,868 --> 00:33:22,803
- Hi, I'm Nev.
- Hi, I'm Marie.
876
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:24,304
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
877
00:33:24,371 --> 00:33:25,772
- This is Kamie.
- I'm in shock.
878
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:27,541
- Hi, Kamie, hi.
- Nice to meet you.
879
00:33:27,608 --> 00:33:28,876
- Hi, Mark.
- And I'm Mark.
880
00:33:28,942 --> 00:33:30,777
- [laughs]
Yeah, I know.
881
00:33:30,844 --> 00:33:32,646
- It's you.
- Yeah.
882
00:33:32,713 --> 00:33:36,450
I'm obviously Marie, so yeah.
883
00:33:36,517 --> 00:33:39,786
- Are you the same Marie
that he's been talking to
884
00:33:39,853 --> 00:33:42,155
that whole time?
- Yeah.
885
00:33:42,222 --> 00:33:44,491
- So it's just always been you?
- Yeah.
886
00:33:44,558 --> 00:33:46,159
- Wow.
887
00:33:46,226 --> 00:33:47,961
[soft dramatic music]
888
00:33:48,028 --> 00:33:49,563
- What is happening?
889
00:33:49,630 --> 00:33:51,798
You're you?
- I am, yeah.
890
00:33:51,865 --> 00:33:55,202
- Everything that Mark knows,
then, about you is true?
891
00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:56,537
I mean, you have--
892
00:33:58,205 --> 00:34:01,608
- Are you in a relationship?
- No, I'm single.
893
00:34:01,675 --> 00:34:06,547
- Okay.
Are you similarly...
894
00:34:06,613 --> 00:34:09,449
feeling a connection to Mark
895
00:34:09,516 --> 00:34:12,686
the way I think he is for you
over the last few months?
896
00:34:12,753 --> 00:34:16,456
- I feel like
our whole relationship
897
00:34:16,523 --> 00:34:18,692
was just like a game.
898
00:34:18,759 --> 00:34:21,361
I felt like it was
just, like, an in-game thing.
899
00:34:21,428 --> 00:34:24,097
- Okay, so it never
felt flirtatious or romantic?
900
00:34:24,164 --> 00:34:25,599
- I mean, like,
in the beginning, like, it did.
901
00:34:25,666 --> 00:34:28,068
We, like, flirted a little bit,
902
00:34:28,135 --> 00:34:29,970
but, like, I didn't think
it was that big of a deal
903
00:34:30,037 --> 00:34:32,039
'cause it's, like,
a online game.
904
00:34:32,105 --> 00:34:34,474
- Sure, but then you guys
took it offline kind of
905
00:34:34,541 --> 00:34:36,276
and talked on the phone.
- Yeah.
906
00:34:36,343 --> 00:34:38,078
- Okay.
- Yeah.
907
00:34:38,145 --> 00:34:41,748
- But is it surprising to you
that Mark might have felt like
908
00:34:41,815 --> 00:34:43,450
this "relationship"
was a bit more
909
00:34:43,517 --> 00:34:44,852
than just a friendship?
910
00:34:44,918 --> 00:34:47,955
- I mean, no, like,
I definitely get that vibe.
911
00:34:48,021 --> 00:34:49,423
- Okay.
912
00:34:49,489 --> 00:34:50,757
- But I just felt like
we were always, like, casual.
913
00:34:50,824 --> 00:34:54,695
Like we were just casual
online buddies, so, yeah.
914
00:34:56,096 --> 00:34:57,798
- So is that
what you meant today
915
00:34:57,865 --> 00:34:59,800
when you said that you
didn't want to meet up?
916
00:34:59,867 --> 00:35:02,102
Because this wasn't
gonna be good.
917
00:35:02,169 --> 00:35:06,206
- I just, like, didn't really
see a reason to meet, like...
918
00:35:06,273 --> 00:35:08,775
- So you didn't, like,
want to meet Mark?
919
00:35:08,842 --> 00:35:10,644
- I mean, like, for what?
920
00:35:11,712 --> 00:35:13,213
[clears throat]
921
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,015
- Mark?
922
00:35:15,082 --> 00:35:18,619
- I don't know what to say,
and I'm just--
923
00:35:18,685 --> 00:35:21,021
- I mean, like, you got--
you brought us here.
924
00:35:21,088 --> 00:35:23,323
Like, I'm here.
Like, you guys texted me.
925
00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:25,692
- I mean, you're...
926
00:35:25,759 --> 00:35:27,327
you're who you say you are.
- I know.
927
00:35:27,394 --> 00:35:30,197
- And it's all real.
928
00:35:30,264 --> 00:35:31,899
- Don't know
what to say to you,
929
00:35:31,965 --> 00:35:34,001
but, like...
[giggles]
930
00:35:34,067 --> 00:35:36,703
- Well, that makes two of us.
931
00:35:36,770 --> 00:35:38,438
- These moments
can be pretty awkward.
932
00:35:38,505 --> 00:35:39,740
- Mm-hmm.
933
00:35:39,806 --> 00:35:41,842
- Do you wanna take Mark,
chat for a second,
934
00:35:41,909 --> 00:35:43,877
and we can chat for a second.
- Yeah.
935
00:35:43,944 --> 00:35:46,146
- 'Cause I wanna make sure
everyone is saying
936
00:35:46,213 --> 00:35:47,881
what they need to say
and feels comfortable.
937
00:35:47,948 --> 00:35:49,049
- Yeah.
938
00:35:49,116 --> 00:35:50,384
- Come back in,
I guess, whenever.
939
00:35:50,450 --> 00:35:54,221
[phone chiming]
940
00:35:54,288 --> 00:35:56,456
- Oh, Mark.
941
00:35:56,523 --> 00:35:59,426
- [exhales deeply]
942
00:35:59,493 --> 00:36:03,630
I can't [bleep] believe it.
943
00:36:03,697 --> 00:36:07,034
I can't--I can't believe it.
It's her.
944
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:09,603
It was really her
the whole time.
945
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:13,106
- But I think
it was all just the game.
946
00:36:13,173 --> 00:36:14,708
- The game.
947
00:36:14,775 --> 00:36:16,610
- And I just wanna make that,
948
00:36:16,677 --> 00:36:18,745
like, ring true to you...
- Clear.
949
00:36:18,812 --> 00:36:20,814
- So that you don't
get your heart broken.
950
00:36:20,881 --> 00:36:23,283
- Unless you're thinking
that something else
951
00:36:23,350 --> 00:36:24,918
is gonna come from this.
952
00:36:24,985 --> 00:36:27,921
- I don't know what
to expect to come from this
953
00:36:27,988 --> 00:36:30,023
right now at this point.
954
00:36:30,090 --> 00:36:32,693
- Well, I think maybe you read
into this relationship
955
00:36:32,759 --> 00:36:34,394
a bit too much.
956
00:36:34,461 --> 00:36:35,796
Then on the other hand, like,
957
00:36:35,863 --> 00:36:37,698
I don't really know
if she's cognizant
958
00:36:37,764 --> 00:36:39,900
of that fact
that she could hurt somebody
959
00:36:39,967 --> 00:36:43,737
by "playing the game."
- Right.
960
00:36:43,804 --> 00:36:45,038
- So, Marie?
- Yeah.
961
00:36:45,105 --> 00:36:46,406
- Right?
Is that what people call you?
962
00:36:46,473 --> 00:36:47,641
- Yeah.
- Okay.
963
00:36:47,708 --> 00:36:48,809
I've spent the last few days
with Mark.
964
00:36:48,876 --> 00:36:50,277
Heard his side of this.
- Okay.
965
00:36:50,344 --> 00:36:52,846
- So, like, I just wanna--
what's your story?
966
00:36:52,913 --> 00:36:55,782
- I'm from Atlanta.
- Okay, who's place is this?
967
00:36:55,849 --> 00:36:57,050
- It's just my friend's
right now.
968
00:36:57,117 --> 00:36:58,952
I told him
that we'd go and get lunch.
969
00:36:59,019 --> 00:37:00,187
- Are you staying here
with him or...?
970
00:37:00,254 --> 00:37:02,389
- Yeah.
- Okay, just a friend?
971
00:37:02,456 --> 00:37:03,991
- Just a friend.
Yeah, no.
972
00:37:04,057 --> 00:37:05,893
- And so everything
that you told Mark
973
00:37:05,959 --> 00:37:09,129
about your interests
and likes and dislikes,
974
00:37:09,196 --> 00:37:10,731
that was all real?
- Yeah.
975
00:37:10,797 --> 00:37:12,299
- You just,
from the very beginning,
976
00:37:12,366 --> 00:37:14,835
only thought of him as this,
like, sweet guy on the game
977
00:37:14,902 --> 00:37:16,770
that you enjoy talking to.
- Yeah, exactly.
978
00:37:16,837 --> 00:37:19,373
Like, yeah.
979
00:37:19,439 --> 00:37:20,741
I don't lie.
980
00:37:20,807 --> 00:37:22,509
Like, I just think
it's, like, funny that...
981
00:37:22,576 --> 00:37:24,678
- Well, surely you understand
982
00:37:24,745 --> 00:37:27,314
that, for Mark,
or really any guy,
983
00:37:27,381 --> 00:37:30,851
to meet you online,
it doesn't take a lot
984
00:37:30,918 --> 00:37:33,120
to assume
that they might get excited
985
00:37:33,187 --> 00:37:35,055
and think like, "Wow,
this beautiful young woman
986
00:37:35,122 --> 00:37:36,657
is interested me."
- Okay.
987
00:37:36,723 --> 00:37:38,125
- "This is exciting."
- Yeah.
988
00:37:38,192 --> 00:37:39,993
For sure, I mean,
in the beginning, like,
989
00:37:40,060 --> 00:37:41,595
it was just fun
to play with him.
990
00:37:41,662 --> 00:37:43,397
- I mean, if it had
just been through the game,
991
00:37:43,463 --> 00:37:44,765
that's one thing,
but, like, you guys talked
992
00:37:44,831 --> 00:37:45,899
on the phone, right?
993
00:37:45,966 --> 00:37:47,768
And you had, like,
long phone calls.
994
00:37:47,835 --> 00:37:50,270
- Oh, yeah.
995
00:37:50,337 --> 00:37:51,839
- Is it fair to say,
that, like,
996
00:37:51,905 --> 00:37:54,508
no mystery here
that Mark had a crush on you.
997
00:37:54,575 --> 00:37:56,743
- Yeah, no, yeah.
- Okay.
998
00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:58,712
- And it sounds like
you did make some efforts
999
00:37:58,779 --> 00:38:01,315
to, like, pump the breaks.
- Yeah.
1000
00:38:01,381 --> 00:38:03,016
- But do you think
you did enough
1001
00:38:03,083 --> 00:38:04,518
to, like,
very clearly communicate...
1002
00:38:04,585 --> 00:38:06,954
- I don't know
'cause, like, we're here now.
1003
00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:09,323
- I guess not.
1004
00:38:09,389 --> 00:38:11,925
So it's not totally
unreasonable for him
1005
00:38:11,992 --> 00:38:13,827
to have thought
that there was something
1006
00:38:13,894 --> 00:38:15,529
and some sort
of potential future with you.
1007
00:38:15,596 --> 00:38:17,598
'Cause you never explicitly
said, "Hey, Mark.
1008
00:38:17,664 --> 00:38:19,166
"Just so you know.
1009
00:38:19,233 --> 00:38:22,302
"Our friendship/even,
like, relationship in the game
1010
00:38:22,369 --> 00:38:25,172
is just in the game."
- Yeah.
1011
00:38:28,609 --> 00:38:30,143
- Hey, guys.
- Hey.
1012
00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:31,411
- Hey.
1013
00:38:31,478 --> 00:38:34,114
- So it's seems like
we've got a big case
1014
00:38:34,181 --> 00:38:36,984
of miscommunication here.
- Right.
1015
00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:39,620
- And while misleading,
I don't think malicious.
1016
00:38:39,686 --> 00:38:41,755
- Yeah, I was just, like...
1017
00:38:41,822 --> 00:38:43,790
- Playing a game.
- Yeah, exactly.
1018
00:38:43,857 --> 00:38:45,859
- But with someone's heart,
you know?
1019
00:38:45,926 --> 00:38:47,094
- I agree.
1020
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,296
- So let's get Mark.
- I'll go get him.
1021
00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:56,270
Oh, man.
Wild.
1022
00:38:56,336 --> 00:38:58,105
Not what I expected.
1023
00:38:58,172 --> 00:38:59,740
I think,
let's just go in there
1024
00:38:59,806 --> 00:39:01,708
so that we can make sure that
whatever happens moving forward
1025
00:39:01,775 --> 00:39:03,810
is very crystal clear.
1026
00:39:03,877 --> 00:39:05,312
All right.
1027
00:39:05,379 --> 00:39:06,947
So, first of all,
1028
00:39:07,014 --> 00:39:09,183
I know it's a little weird
and awkward.
1029
00:39:09,249 --> 00:39:11,752
Not at all how anybody kinda
thought it was gonna go.
1030
00:39:11,818 --> 00:39:13,120
- [giggles]
1031
00:39:13,187 --> 00:39:14,421
- A relationship status
on the game
1032
00:39:14,488 --> 00:39:16,290
and your chatting offline
1033
00:39:16,356 --> 00:39:19,092
I feel like meant more to you
than it did to her.
1034
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:21,361
And I feel like everything
that's happened
1035
00:39:21,428 --> 00:39:23,830
over the last few months
has meant more to you
1036
00:39:23,897 --> 00:39:25,699
than it has to her.
1037
00:39:25,766 --> 00:39:27,267
So analyze that for yourself
1038
00:39:27,334 --> 00:39:28,669
so that you understand
moving forward
1039
00:39:28,735 --> 00:39:30,370
when you meet someone else,
1040
00:39:30,437 --> 00:39:33,440
I don't want you
to assign meaning to things
1041
00:39:33,507 --> 00:39:36,677
that might not mean
what you think they do.
1042
00:39:36,743 --> 00:39:38,045
- Right.
1043
00:39:38,111 --> 00:39:40,914
- That said,
I think you need to be
1044
00:39:40,981 --> 00:39:43,851
sensitive and aware
of the influence you have
1045
00:39:43,917 --> 00:39:46,854
over people who might be
attracted to you,
1046
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,189
which, so, I think
that's why we're here.
1047
00:39:49,256 --> 00:39:51,091
You read into it
a little bit too much.
1048
00:39:51,158 --> 00:39:53,460
You kind of threw it away
a little too casually.
1049
00:39:53,527 --> 00:39:55,596
And all of a sudden
we had two people
1050
00:39:55,662 --> 00:39:57,698
not on the same...
- Page.
1051
00:39:57,764 --> 00:40:00,634
- Page.
- Yeah, I see that.
1052
00:40:00,701 --> 00:40:03,737
- Right, Mark, do you feel like
you have everything you need
1053
00:40:03,804 --> 00:40:06,640
to, like, go home and move on?
1054
00:40:06,707 --> 00:40:08,242
- Yeah.
- We good?
1055
00:40:08,308 --> 00:40:09,977
Is everyone...
- Yeah, I think so.
1056
00:40:10,043 --> 00:40:11,512
Good to meet him.
1057
00:40:11,578 --> 00:40:13,814
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
1058
00:40:13,881 --> 00:40:16,183
- Nice to meet you.
Thank you.
1059
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:19,052
- It was nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
1060
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:22,623
- Okay, well, bye.
- Bye.
1061
00:40:22,689 --> 00:40:25,092
- So nice to meet you.
1062
00:40:25,158 --> 00:40:27,194
- That was very interesting.
1063
00:40:27,261 --> 00:40:29,763
I mean, at least she's honest,
right? I mean...
1064
00:40:29,830 --> 00:40:31,064
- I can't be mad at it.
1065
00:40:31,131 --> 00:40:32,566
I just wish
that she would have told you,
1066
00:40:32,633 --> 00:40:34,268
Mark, when you told her
your feelings,
1067
00:40:34,334 --> 00:40:35,769
I wish that she was clear
and honest with you
1068
00:40:35,836 --> 00:40:37,104
about how she felt.
1069
00:40:37,171 --> 00:40:38,772
- Are you cool?
Are you good?
1070
00:40:38,839 --> 00:40:41,074
- I'm good.
- Well, look.
1071
00:40:41,141 --> 00:40:42,509
It doesn't happen often,
1072
00:40:42,576 --> 00:40:43,877
but you didn't get catfished.
1073
00:40:43,944 --> 00:40:45,646
- I didn't get catfished.
1074
00:40:45,712 --> 00:40:47,181
- So that's a silver lining.
1075
00:40:47,247 --> 00:40:49,116
- And everybody thought I did.
- Right.
1076
00:40:49,183 --> 00:40:51,118
- She's just not that into you.
1077
00:40:51,185 --> 00:40:53,420
- Leave that part out of it.
- [chuckles]
1078
00:40:53,487 --> 00:40:58,392
- ♪♪ Is this the way
my words fit ♪♪
1079
00:40:58,458 --> 00:41:05,465
♪♪ ♪♪
1080
00:41:09,102 --> 00:41:18,045
♪♪ Is this the way
my words fit ♪♪
1081
00:41:18,111 --> 00:41:19,446
We would talk for hours,
1082
00:41:19,513 --> 00:41:21,915
but her and her husband
do still live together.
1083
00:41:21,982 --> 00:41:24,618
- He would be like, "Yeah, you
know, she's carrying my baby."
1084
00:41:24,685 --> 00:41:25,986
- She's pregnant?
- What?
1085
00:41:26,053 --> 00:41:29,389
- This might be the most
insane catfish situation
1086
00:41:29,456 --> 00:41:30,390
that we've ever seen.
1087
00:41:30,457 --> 00:41:31,592
- Gotta be really [bleep] up
1088
00:41:31,658 --> 00:41:32,926
to play with somebody's mind.
1089
00:41:41,668 --> 00:41:48,609
♪♪ ♪♪
1090
00:42:08,795 --> 00:42:12,295
- Sharon actually
reached out to me.