1 00:00:03,236 --> 00:00:04,705 ‐ Akirra's boyfriend, William, 2 00:00:04,771 --> 00:00:07,541 needs to discover the truth about who Jamie is. 3 00:00:07,608 --> 00:00:09,209 ‐ We've been talking for around two years. 4 00:00:09,275 --> 00:00:11,277 ‐ Did you love her? ‐ Yeah, I loved her. 5 00:00:11,344 --> 00:00:12,946 ‐ This is your transaction history. 6 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:15,849 Are you [bleep] kidding me? This is a lot of money. 7 00:00:15,916 --> 00:00:17,217 Does Akirra know about that? 8 00:00:18,985 --> 00:00:20,554 ‐ Akirra's upset. 9 00:00:20,621 --> 00:00:22,523 ‐ Bro, just get out of my [bleep] face; just go. 10 00:00:22,589 --> 00:00:24,157 ‐ I think I see her. Jamie? 11 00:00:24,224 --> 00:00:25,992 ‐ Oh, my [bleep] God. 12 00:00:26,059 --> 00:00:27,460 [dramatic music] 13 00:00:27,528 --> 00:00:28,394 ‐ "I need your help." "Help." 14 00:00:28,461 --> 00:00:30,230 For almost a decade, 15 00:00:30,296 --> 00:00:31,865 "Catfish" has brought desperate hopefuls 16 00:00:31,932 --> 00:00:32,866 the answers they deserve. 17 00:00:32,933 --> 00:00:33,867 ‐ Thank you guys so much 18 00:00:33,934 --> 00:00:35,035 for bringing us together. 19 00:00:35,101 --> 00:00:36,302 ‐ This time around, though, 20 00:00:36,369 --> 00:00:38,204 we flipped the script. 21 00:00:38,271 --> 00:00:40,741 Now I'm heading out with my cohost, Kamie. 22 00:00:40,807 --> 00:00:42,442 ‐ Who's ready to go fishing? 23 00:00:42,509 --> 00:00:43,810 ‐ We're helping people who need us the most. 24 00:00:43,877 --> 00:00:44,845 Let's do it. 25 00:00:44,911 --> 00:00:47,480 Only they have no idea. 26 00:00:47,548 --> 00:00:49,750 ‐ She doesn't know I reached out to you guys. 27 00:00:49,816 --> 00:00:51,518 ‐ Oh, my goodness. 28 00:00:51,585 --> 00:00:54,487 ‐ This season, we're being tipped off by friends... 29 00:00:54,555 --> 00:00:56,456 ‐ I care about him a lot. ‐ Family... 30 00:00:56,523 --> 00:00:58,191 ‐ My brother's really in love with her. 31 00:00:58,258 --> 00:00:59,960 ‐ And even anonymous sources. 32 00:01:00,026 --> 00:01:01,334 Whoa. ‐ What? 33 00:01:01,401 --> 00:01:02,969 ‐ This is from the whistle‐blower. 34 00:01:03,036 --> 00:01:04,738 Ride‐or‐dies who will not sit back 35 00:01:04,805 --> 00:01:06,439 while their loved ones get played. 36 00:01:06,507 --> 00:01:07,708 ‐ ♪♪ Come on and catch me now ♪♪ 37 00:01:07,774 --> 00:01:10,043 ‐ Why can't we meet? 38 00:01:10,110 --> 00:01:11,612 ‐ Homey is getting played. 39 00:01:11,678 --> 00:01:13,246 So many layers. 40 00:01:13,313 --> 00:01:14,648 ‐ 'Cause even when you don't know it... 41 00:01:14,715 --> 00:01:15,916 Chill, chill, chill. ‐ [bleep] him, man. 42 00:01:15,982 --> 00:01:17,017 ‐ Take a second. ‐ [exhales] 43 00:01:17,083 --> 00:01:19,152 ‐ "Catfish" has your back. 44 00:01:19,219 --> 00:01:21,287 [dramatic musical sting] 45 00:01:21,354 --> 00:01:24,157 ‐ All right, there she is. 46 00:01:29,062 --> 00:01:30,130 ‐ Oh, no. 47 00:01:30,196 --> 00:01:31,665 ‐ Can't lay like that. 48 00:01:31,732 --> 00:01:33,600 ‐ I'm watching TV. ‐ I think that's weird. 49 00:01:33,667 --> 00:01:37,003 ‐ How do you watch TV? ‐ If you're gonna be on a bed, 50 00:01:37,070 --> 00:01:38,438 then you go like this. 51 00:01:38,505 --> 00:01:39,740 ‐ How am I supposed to see it 52 00:01:39,806 --> 00:01:41,274 when I don't have my glasses on? 53 00:01:41,341 --> 00:01:42,743 ‐ First of all, when did you become 54 00:01:42,809 --> 00:01:44,377 an 80‐year‐old Southern woman? ‐ Yesterday. 55 00:01:44,444 --> 00:01:47,881 [laughter] ‐ "I don't have my glasses on!" 56 00:01:47,948 --> 00:01:50,951 ‐ Anyway, if you're finished watching "Hoarders," 57 00:01:51,017 --> 00:01:52,953 I thought we'd do something a little different today. 58 00:01:53,019 --> 00:01:55,822 Instead of reading the email from the computer, 59 00:01:55,889 --> 00:01:57,123 I could read it right here on my phone. 60 00:01:57,190 --> 00:01:58,491 ‐ Why not? 61 00:01:58,559 --> 00:02:01,467 ‐ All right, this one is from Akirra. 62 00:02:01,535 --> 00:02:06,206 The subject is "A Catfish is Ruining My Relationship." 63 00:02:06,272 --> 00:02:07,674 "Hey, Nev and Kamie, 64 00:02:07,741 --> 00:02:09,643 "Things are getting out of hand. 65 00:02:09,710 --> 00:02:12,445 And I realized you're the only ones who can help." 66 00:02:12,513 --> 00:02:15,448 ‐ Probably. ‐ "My boyfriend William and I 67 00:02:15,516 --> 00:02:18,852 "have been dating for the past three months. 68 00:02:18,918 --> 00:02:20,320 "We're completely in love. 69 00:02:20,386 --> 00:02:23,323 "But recently, a girl named Jamie 70 00:02:23,389 --> 00:02:26,326 "has been blowing up his phone constantly. 71 00:02:28,294 --> 00:02:29,930 "When I asked William about it, 72 00:02:29,996 --> 00:02:33,800 "he said he and Jamie used to date online 73 00:02:33,867 --> 00:02:36,670 "but out of respect for me, William blocked her. 74 00:02:36,737 --> 00:02:40,674 "But she's been messaging him from other profiles. 75 00:02:40,741 --> 00:02:43,109 "Can't get over him, and is doing anything she can 76 00:02:43,176 --> 00:02:44,545 "to stay in touch. 77 00:02:46,613 --> 00:02:49,082 "With all this going on, I decided to look into her. 78 00:02:49,149 --> 00:02:50,651 "William believes she's some sort of 79 00:02:50,717 --> 00:02:53,019 "social media influencer, because she has a ton 80 00:02:53,086 --> 00:02:54,588 of followers..." ‐ Oh, God, no. 81 00:02:54,655 --> 00:02:57,624 "But I saw her Twitter, and it looked shady. 82 00:02:57,691 --> 00:03:01,902 "It's clear to me she isn't just a stalker ex. 83 00:03:01,968 --> 00:03:04,304 "She's a catfish. 84 00:03:04,370 --> 00:03:08,875 "And it's gotten even worse. 85 00:03:08,942 --> 00:03:11,111 "I'm getting weird messages from fake accounts, 86 00:03:11,177 --> 00:03:14,515 "and they're freaking me out and pissing me off. 87 00:03:14,581 --> 00:03:18,685 "Jamie even told William that he better watch out, 88 00:03:18,752 --> 00:03:20,587 because she knows his address." 89 00:03:20,654 --> 00:03:25,992 ‐ ♪♪ Only your evil will cut us down ♪♪ 90 00:03:26,059 --> 00:03:27,393 "I love William, 91 00:03:27,460 --> 00:03:29,429 "but I don't know what to do anymore. 92 00:03:29,495 --> 00:03:31,932 "She's going to ruin our relationship 93 00:03:31,998 --> 00:03:34,801 "if we don't get her out of our lives. 94 00:03:34,868 --> 00:03:38,705 Thanks in advance, Akirra." 95 00:03:40,406 --> 00:03:43,109 ‐ It sounds like William 96 00:03:43,176 --> 00:03:46,547 is not doing a very good job at keeping his ex at bay. 97 00:03:46,613 --> 00:03:49,382 ‐ She's infiltrating. ‐ Well, he tried to block her. 98 00:03:49,449 --> 00:03:52,352 This girl is, like, really butting her nose 99 00:03:52,418 --> 00:03:53,453 in their business. 100 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,821 ‐ Watch out? ‐ Right. 101 00:03:54,888 --> 00:03:56,089 ‐ I'm gonna show up at your house? 102 00:03:56,156 --> 00:03:57,223 She's a stalker. 103 00:03:57,290 --> 00:03:59,025 ‐ I'm nervous now. 104 00:03:59,092 --> 00:04:01,161 All right, let's go. Let's see if we can get Akirra 105 00:04:01,227 --> 00:04:04,971 on Skype and find out a little more about what's going on. 106 00:04:05,038 --> 00:04:08,441 [Skype tone ringing] 107 00:04:08,509 --> 00:04:09,876 Hello! ‐ Hey! 108 00:04:09,943 --> 00:04:11,411 ‐ What's up? ‐ How you guys doing? 109 00:04:11,477 --> 00:04:13,346 ‐ How are you? ‐ It's going good. 110 00:04:13,413 --> 00:04:14,815 ‐ Where are you from? 111 00:04:14,881 --> 00:04:16,182 ‐ I'm from King George, Virginia. 112 00:04:16,249 --> 00:04:18,384 ‐ Hey, DMV. I'm from Maryland. 113 00:04:18,451 --> 00:04:19,520 ‐ From Maryland? ‐ Yeah. 114 00:04:19,586 --> 00:04:20,954 ‐ How old are you, Akirra? 115 00:04:21,021 --> 00:04:22,322 ‐ I'm 19. ‐ And how old is William? 116 00:04:22,388 --> 00:04:23,990 ‐ William is 21. 117 00:04:24,057 --> 00:04:25,726 He's the perfect guy. I love him a lot. 118 00:04:25,792 --> 00:04:27,260 ‐ What's so great about William? 119 00:04:27,327 --> 00:04:29,029 ‐ Everything, like his laugh, 120 00:04:29,095 --> 00:04:32,032 his personality, and the way that he carries himself. 121 00:04:32,098 --> 00:04:34,233 Like, we're really, really in love. 122 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:37,170 But I was hoping you guys could help me out because 123 00:04:37,236 --> 00:04:39,673 I didn't know he was dating a girl online 124 00:04:39,739 --> 00:04:41,642 before him and I met. 125 00:04:41,708 --> 00:04:44,344 And now, since she knows that him and I are together, 126 00:04:44,410 --> 00:04:45,612 and we're trying to progress, 127 00:04:45,679 --> 00:04:47,748 it makes her angry. ‐ Wow. 128 00:04:47,814 --> 00:04:50,183 ‐ I had a hundred different Instagrams messaging me like, 129 00:04:50,250 --> 00:04:53,286 "Your boyfriend is a cheater. He's not loyal to you." 130 00:04:53,353 --> 00:04:54,955 And like... ‐ My God. 131 00:04:55,021 --> 00:04:57,357 ‐ And she'll try to use my Instagram username 132 00:04:57,423 --> 00:04:59,760 and sign in my account and hit "Forgot Password" 133 00:04:59,826 --> 00:05:02,769 so I'll get a hundred notifications of like, 134 00:05:02,836 --> 00:05:05,539 "Oh, we're sorry that you can't get into your Instagram. 135 00:05:05,606 --> 00:05:07,040 Maybe we can help you." 136 00:05:07,107 --> 00:05:08,942 ‐ Oh, my God. ‐ Oh, that would piss me off 137 00:05:09,009 --> 00:05:10,844 like nothing else. ‐ This is a problem. 138 00:05:10,911 --> 00:05:12,513 Like‐‐this is a‐‐ ‐ Yeah. 139 00:05:12,579 --> 00:05:14,815 ‐ Now our relationship is on the line. 140 00:05:14,881 --> 00:05:16,550 She's in the way. She has to go. 141 00:05:16,617 --> 00:05:18,685 ‐ Okay, he's not still interested in having 142 00:05:18,752 --> 00:05:20,587 any kind of communication or friendship 143 00:05:20,654 --> 00:05:23,123 or anything with her, is he? ‐ Um, see, I don't know. 144 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:24,791 I found them communicating 145 00:05:24,858 --> 00:05:27,360 still after he had said he blocked her. 146 00:05:27,427 --> 00:05:28,461 ‐ What? 147 00:05:28,529 --> 00:05:29,663 ‐ Where were they talking? 148 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:31,832 ‐ They were talking on Paypal. 149 00:05:31,898 --> 00:05:33,600 ‐ Is that because he sends her money? 150 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:35,869 ‐ No. She sends him money. 151 00:05:35,936 --> 00:05:38,572 ‐ Oh. Well, no wonder he doesn't want to let go. 152 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:40,741 ‐ William has a sugar mama. 153 00:05:40,807 --> 00:05:41,875 ‐ Wow. 154 00:05:41,942 --> 00:05:43,844 Does he know you wrote in to us? 155 00:05:43,910 --> 00:05:46,346 ‐ He knows that I wrote in to you guys, 156 00:05:46,412 --> 00:05:50,083 but he's not, like, excited with the fact that I did. 157 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:51,451 He's here, if you guys want to talk to him. 158 00:05:51,518 --> 00:05:52,953 ‐ Yeah. 159 00:05:53,019 --> 00:05:54,254 [footsteps] [knocking on door] 160 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,389 ‐ William. ‐ Open up. 161 00:05:56,456 --> 00:05:57,958 ‐ I'm on the phone with "Catfish" 162 00:05:58,024 --> 00:05:59,660 and they want to talk to you. ‐ Oh, man. 163 00:05:59,726 --> 00:06:02,002 ‐ [laughs] ‐ Get out here, Will. 164 00:06:02,068 --> 00:06:04,304 ‐ I can't believe that you did this. 165 00:06:04,370 --> 00:06:05,539 ‐ [laughs] 166 00:06:05,606 --> 00:06:07,273 ‐ This is‐‐ ‐ Oh, man. 167 00:06:07,340 --> 00:06:09,810 ‐ We've been hearing a little about this crazy story. 168 00:06:09,876 --> 00:06:12,779 ‐ She's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, need a restraining order. 169 00:06:12,846 --> 00:06:14,915 ‐ No‐‐ ‐ Catfish. 170 00:06:14,981 --> 00:06:16,449 ‐ [laughs] 171 00:06:16,517 --> 00:06:18,418 ‐ I don't believe she's a catfish 172 00:06:18,484 --> 00:06:19,853 because of what she's doing. 173 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,022 Sending me money, helping me out. 174 00:06:22,088 --> 00:06:24,157 ‐ Over the last two years, how much money 175 00:06:24,224 --> 00:06:25,425 do you think she's sent you? 176 00:06:25,491 --> 00:06:27,661 ‐ Thousands. ‐ Thousands. 177 00:06:27,728 --> 00:06:28,795 What? 178 00:06:28,862 --> 00:06:30,797 ‐ Ain't feel good. ‐ Wow. 179 00:06:30,864 --> 00:06:33,567 ‐ You weren't sending anything in exchange for this money, 180 00:06:33,634 --> 00:06:35,135 because that's a different kind of business. 181 00:06:35,201 --> 00:06:36,269 ‐ Dick pics. 182 00:06:36,336 --> 00:06:38,539 ‐ [giggles] 183 00:06:38,605 --> 00:06:39,706 ‐ The most important thing here 184 00:06:39,773 --> 00:06:42,676 is that you guys are happy, 185 00:06:42,743 --> 00:06:46,112 and this girl's doing a lot to sort of mess that up. 186 00:06:46,179 --> 00:06:48,114 ‐ She's jealous. 187 00:06:48,181 --> 00:06:50,483 ‐ I feel like this girl's jeopardizing our relationship, 188 00:06:50,551 --> 00:06:52,218 ‐ Right. ‐ So that's what makes me 189 00:06:52,285 --> 00:06:54,387 interested in finding out, because I wanna know. 190 00:06:54,454 --> 00:06:55,889 ‐ We gotta help you guys. 191 00:06:55,956 --> 00:06:58,659 All right, so we'll meet you guys in Virginia. 192 00:06:58,725 --> 00:07:00,026 ‐ DC. ‐ We're in DC now. 193 00:07:00,093 --> 00:07:01,602 ‐ Oh, you're‐‐ okay, you're in DC now. 194 00:07:01,668 --> 00:07:05,438 ‐ DMV area. ‐ DMV, yeah. 195 00:07:05,506 --> 00:07:06,472 ‐ We'll see you guys soon. 196 00:07:06,540 --> 00:07:09,409 ‐ Bye. both: Bye. 197 00:07:09,475 --> 00:07:10,443 ‐ Wow. ‐ I think William 198 00:07:10,511 --> 00:07:12,045 wants a sugar mama. 199 00:07:12,112 --> 00:07:13,514 ‐ Money talks. 200 00:07:13,580 --> 00:07:15,949 ‐ The good news is we're going to Maryland. 201 00:07:16,016 --> 00:07:17,183 Yay! 202 00:07:17,250 --> 00:07:19,252 [upbeat music] 203 00:07:19,319 --> 00:07:21,487 ♪♪ ♪♪ 204 00:07:21,555 --> 00:07:22,989 ‐ All right, Maryland. 205 00:07:23,056 --> 00:07:24,457 ‐ Maryland. 206 00:07:24,525 --> 00:07:25,992 ‐ I like Akirra. ‐ I like Akirra. 207 00:07:26,059 --> 00:07:27,493 ‐ She's funny. ‐ She's with it. 208 00:07:27,561 --> 00:07:29,563 ‐ And she's keeping him in check. 209 00:07:29,630 --> 00:07:31,832 ‐ All right, we're here. 210 00:07:35,702 --> 00:07:37,303 ‐ Hey. ‐ Hey, how you doing? 211 00:07:37,370 --> 00:07:38,539 ‐ Good, how are you? 212 00:07:38,605 --> 00:07:40,140 ‐ I'm doing good. Nice to meet you. 213 00:07:40,206 --> 00:07:41,575 ‐ Nice to meet you, too. 214 00:07:41,642 --> 00:07:42,876 I'm Kamie. 215 00:07:42,943 --> 00:07:44,244 ‐ What's up? ‐ How you doing? 216 00:07:44,310 --> 00:07:45,311 ‐ Oh, good. 217 00:07:45,378 --> 00:07:46,980 ‐ Could we all step in? 218 00:07:47,047 --> 00:07:49,049 ‐ Yeah, you don't have a coat. Let's go. [bleep]. 219 00:07:49,115 --> 00:07:50,316 Thank you. 220 00:07:50,383 --> 00:07:52,085 ‐ Wait, where's your girlfriend? 221 00:07:52,152 --> 00:07:54,621 I don't really wanna talk to you that much. 222 00:07:54,688 --> 00:07:57,157 [laughter] 223 00:07:57,223 --> 00:07:58,224 ‐ We're here for Akirra. 224 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,503 ‐ So let's get the story. ‐ Spill the tea. 225 00:08:02,569 --> 00:08:03,970 ‐ So me and Jamie, 226 00:08:04,037 --> 00:08:06,472 we were talking for, like, around two years. 227 00:08:06,540 --> 00:08:08,509 She hit me up on Twitter. 228 00:08:08,575 --> 00:08:09,976 Guess I liked her tweet, 229 00:08:10,043 --> 00:08:12,112 and then that's when she inboxed me. 230 00:08:12,178 --> 00:08:14,314 She told me her name is Jamie Gonzalez. 231 00:08:14,380 --> 00:08:17,450 She retweets things for promos, like money‐‐ 232 00:08:17,518 --> 00:08:19,753 ‐ So it's like, if you pay me $5, 233 00:08:19,820 --> 00:08:21,755 I'll post your picture on my page. 234 00:08:21,822 --> 00:08:23,123 ‐ Yes. ‐ Like that. 235 00:08:23,189 --> 00:08:24,758 Because she has a lot of followers. 236 00:08:24,825 --> 00:08:26,693 ‐ Yeah. I wanted to get to know who she was. 237 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,562 That's when I started texting her, 238 00:08:28,629 --> 00:08:30,463 talking to her on the phone. 239 00:08:30,531 --> 00:08:32,065 ‐ How often were you guys talking? 240 00:08:32,132 --> 00:08:33,466 ‐ Every day. 241 00:08:33,534 --> 00:08:34,901 She's a cool person. 242 00:08:34,968 --> 00:08:36,903 She's caring, thoughtful, 243 00:08:36,970 --> 00:08:39,372 she ain't a judgey person. 244 00:08:39,439 --> 00:08:40,507 She had me hooked. 245 00:08:40,574 --> 00:08:41,975 ‐ Ooh. 246 00:08:42,042 --> 00:08:44,377 Did you love her? ‐ Yeah, I loved her. 247 00:08:44,444 --> 00:08:46,279 I cared about her. 248 00:08:46,346 --> 00:08:47,280 At the time... 249 00:08:48,582 --> 00:08:51,284 I told her I need help money‐wise. 250 00:08:51,351 --> 00:08:56,189 That's when she was, like, giving me money. 251 00:08:56,256 --> 00:08:58,592 But when she was doing the promo stuff 252 00:08:58,659 --> 00:08:59,660 and things like that... ‐ Right. 253 00:08:59,726 --> 00:09:01,201 ‐ Her Paypal got suspended. 254 00:09:03,637 --> 00:09:05,338 ‐ Oh, wait a second. ‐ Oh. 255 00:09:05,405 --> 00:09:08,975 ‐ So people send her money to help promote stuff, 256 00:09:09,042 --> 00:09:10,611 and then you're just getting random... 257 00:09:10,677 --> 00:09:11,778 ‐ Random money, like, every day‐‐ 258 00:09:11,845 --> 00:09:13,580 ‐ Money from different accounts. 259 00:09:13,647 --> 00:09:15,582 ‐ Yeah, some random person. 260 00:09:15,649 --> 00:09:17,651 ‐ Was there ever a conversation where she was, like, 261 00:09:17,718 --> 00:09:19,920 "Can you accept this and then pay me?" 262 00:09:19,986 --> 00:09:21,387 Or was it just like, "Oh, you know what, 263 00:09:21,454 --> 00:09:22,756 you just take it." 264 00:09:22,823 --> 00:09:24,290 Like, you never had an agreement. 265 00:09:28,428 --> 00:09:30,196 ‐ She supposedly was supposed to sell her house 266 00:09:30,263 --> 00:09:31,765 out in New York 267 00:09:31,832 --> 00:09:34,601 to come live down here, with me, for me. 268 00:09:34,668 --> 00:09:36,336 But she kept making excuses. 269 00:09:36,402 --> 00:09:37,804 I was getting tired and frustrated with that, 270 00:09:37,871 --> 00:09:39,239 so I moved on. 271 00:09:39,305 --> 00:09:42,275 I told her, like, I can't keep on doing this no more. 272 00:09:43,644 --> 00:09:45,078 ‐ I mean, this is weird. 273 00:09:45,145 --> 00:09:47,313 ‐ [laughs] ‐ I know; I know it's crazy. 274 00:09:47,380 --> 00:09:49,916 ‐ This is maybe the weirdest [bleep] that I've ever heard. 275 00:09:49,983 --> 00:09:53,286 Some random girl who says she's in New York 276 00:09:53,353 --> 00:09:56,289 tells all her clients to pay you on Paypal 277 00:09:56,356 --> 00:09:58,892 for the social media work she's doing? 278 00:09:58,959 --> 00:09:59,893 ‐ Oh, [bleep], God! ‐ Oh. 279 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:01,034 ‐ Hello, hi. ‐ Hey. 280 00:10:01,101 --> 00:10:02,569 ‐ What did I miss? Sorry. 281 00:10:02,636 --> 00:10:04,705 ‐ You scared me! ‐ You made it. What's up? 282 00:10:04,771 --> 00:10:07,440 ‐ Nice to meet you. ‐ Hello. 283 00:10:07,508 --> 00:10:09,042 ‐ So, what did I miss, guys? 284 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:11,277 ‐ The biggest thing that kinda we cleared up 285 00:10:11,344 --> 00:10:12,913 was this money thing. 286 00:10:12,979 --> 00:10:14,881 ‐ It's crazy. You know, you wouldn't be, like, 287 00:10:14,948 --> 00:10:16,650 expecting someone to do that. 288 00:10:16,717 --> 00:10:18,184 Like, it's weird, and it's strange. 289 00:10:18,251 --> 00:10:20,420 ‐ How many different accounts, do you think, 290 00:10:20,486 --> 00:10:21,421 have sent you money? 291 00:10:21,487 --> 00:10:23,156 ‐ Man, more than 50. 292 00:10:23,223 --> 00:10:24,891 ‐ You have your Paypal transaction history. 293 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:27,293 We can look at it, right? I'd like to see that. 294 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,895 Wow. Oh, my God. 295 00:10:28,962 --> 00:10:30,430 ‐ Look at all those scrolls you're doing. 296 00:10:30,496 --> 00:10:32,065 ‐ [laughs] ‐ You're gonna break his thumb. 297 00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:33,767 Holy [bleep]. 298 00:10:33,834 --> 00:10:35,468 ‐ He doesn't believe this is a catfish. 299 00:10:35,536 --> 00:10:37,571 ‐ Okay, so wait a second. So... ‐ There we go. 300 00:10:37,638 --> 00:10:40,306 ‐ Jamie Aronofsky, $90. 301 00:10:40,373 --> 00:10:42,008 ‐ I thought her last name was Gonzalez. 302 00:10:42,075 --> 00:10:42,976 ‐ Right. 303 00:10:43,043 --> 00:10:45,211 ‐ Is she Buttercup Gonzalez? 304 00:10:45,278 --> 00:10:47,013 ‐ Yeah, that's what she was calling herself. 305 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,349 That's how I met her. ‐ Wait, so she sent you $90 306 00:10:49,415 --> 00:10:50,684 a lot of times. 307 00:10:50,751 --> 00:10:53,053 ‐ Keep adding up. ‐ Jesus, $60. 308 00:10:53,119 --> 00:10:56,022 $100! $50, $70, $40. 309 00:10:56,089 --> 00:10:57,758 Are you [bleep] kidding me? 310 00:10:57,824 --> 00:10:59,025 Don't break up with this girl. 311 00:10:59,092 --> 00:11:02,135 [laughter] 312 00:11:02,202 --> 00:11:04,104 This is the best thing you've got going. 313 00:11:04,170 --> 00:11:05,739 ‐ Thank you. ‐ For reals. 314 00:11:05,806 --> 00:11:07,608 ‐ Akirra, get outta here! 315 00:11:07,674 --> 00:11:09,075 [laughter] 316 00:11:09,142 --> 00:11:10,644 Why are you messing this up? 317 00:11:10,711 --> 00:11:14,848 ‐ Thank you. Thank you! [laughter] 318 00:11:14,915 --> 00:11:16,550 ‐ Oh, my God. 319 00:11:16,617 --> 00:11:19,285 This is a lot of money, man. 320 00:11:19,352 --> 00:11:21,254 Jeez, we're still in May. 321 00:11:21,321 --> 00:11:25,726 Dawnee, 5 bucks. Jeju, 5 bucks. Sarah, 5 bucks. 322 00:11:25,792 --> 00:11:29,062 There's a lot of these. Holy [bleep]. 323 00:11:29,129 --> 00:11:32,232 You have a $15 pending payment. ‐ He doesn't care, 324 00:11:32,298 --> 00:11:34,267 he's getting money every day. ‐ He doesn't even care. 325 00:11:34,334 --> 00:11:36,036 This is crazy. 326 00:11:36,102 --> 00:11:38,905 ‐ In Paypal messages, it says I owe 5K. 327 00:11:38,972 --> 00:11:41,474 ‐ Oh, she requested $5,000. 328 00:11:41,542 --> 00:11:43,109 ‐ That was around the time when I actually 329 00:11:43,176 --> 00:11:44,545 broke it off with her. Yeah, because she‐‐ 330 00:11:44,611 --> 00:11:45,812 ‐ She said, "Pay back my money 331 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:47,313 or it's a be a problem." 332 00:11:47,380 --> 00:11:49,049 ‐ That's when Akirra told me to block her 333 00:11:49,115 --> 00:11:50,917 on Instagram and Twitter. 334 00:11:50,984 --> 00:11:52,819 That's when she contacted me on Paypal. 335 00:11:52,886 --> 00:11:55,822 ‐ "I helped you over two years, 336 00:11:55,889 --> 00:11:56,990 and this is what you do to me?" 337 00:11:57,057 --> 00:11:58,692 She sends you a request for 338 00:11:58,759 --> 00:12:00,834 $6.5 million? 339 00:12:00,901 --> 00:12:04,304 ‐ [laughs] 340 00:12:04,370 --> 00:12:05,739 ‐ And then said, 341 00:12:05,806 --> 00:12:07,473 "Don't keep [bleep] playing with me!" 342 00:12:07,541 --> 00:12:09,810 ‐ That's when the messages started rolling to me 343 00:12:09,876 --> 00:12:11,277 with the disrespect. ‐ Right. 344 00:12:11,344 --> 00:12:12,979 ‐ And she's, like, "Your man's a cheater. 345 00:12:13,046 --> 00:12:14,314 You need to check him." If you guys wanna see it, 346 00:12:14,380 --> 00:12:15,749 we could take a look. ‐ Sure. 347 00:12:15,816 --> 00:12:17,718 Here, Kamie, switch with me. 348 00:12:17,784 --> 00:12:19,019 ‐ All right. ‐ Now I see it. 349 00:12:19,085 --> 00:12:20,554 ‐ There's a whole bunch of them. 350 00:12:20,621 --> 00:12:22,322 ‐ Okay, so she said... 351 00:12:28,394 --> 00:12:31,097 So this is clearly Jamie. ‐ Yeah. 352 00:12:31,164 --> 00:12:33,099 ‐ But from a different account. 353 00:12:35,368 --> 00:12:37,904 ‐ Sounds like something a guy would say. 354 00:12:37,971 --> 00:12:39,439 ‐ I know it ain't a man for sure. 355 00:12:39,506 --> 00:12:41,307 We can bet on that. 356 00:12:44,711 --> 00:12:46,012 ‐ You gotta take this seriously. 357 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:48,749 Like, you got to be very cautious here. 358 00:12:48,815 --> 00:12:50,183 I mean you could say, "Oh, my God, 359 00:12:50,250 --> 00:12:52,853 this guy hacked my Paypal. 360 00:12:52,919 --> 00:12:53,854 "He's been stealing all my money, 361 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,956 go [bleep] him up." 362 00:12:56,022 --> 00:12:58,024 You don't know. 363 00:12:58,091 --> 00:13:00,794 All right, well, let's just see if we can figure it out. 364 00:13:00,861 --> 00:13:03,403 ‐ Send us all the stuff. ‐ Okay. 365 00:13:03,469 --> 00:13:06,607 ‐ What kind of rabbit hole y'all got us going down? 366 00:13:06,673 --> 00:13:09,676 ‐ Good to see you guys. ‐ See you tomorrow. 367 00:13:09,743 --> 00:13:11,377 Bye. 368 00:13:11,444 --> 00:13:13,113 Man, oh man. 369 00:13:13,179 --> 00:13:16,750 ‐ This might be one of the crazier catfish stories 370 00:13:16,817 --> 00:13:18,251 we've ever had. 371 00:13:18,318 --> 00:13:19,953 ‐ I don't even know where to begin. 372 00:13:20,020 --> 00:13:22,122 ‐ I mean, Akirra is on top of it. 373 00:13:22,188 --> 00:13:24,224 ‐ Oh, yeah. Because she's not living 374 00:13:24,290 --> 00:13:26,793 in the fantasy land that William's living in. 375 00:13:26,860 --> 00:13:28,394 ‐ He's in serious denial. 376 00:13:32,232 --> 00:13:33,199 ‐ You ready? 377 00:13:33,266 --> 00:13:35,201 ‐ I'm ready. 378 00:13:35,268 --> 00:13:36,136 ‐ Okay. 379 00:13:36,202 --> 00:13:39,039 William meets Jamie online, 380 00:13:39,105 --> 00:13:41,675 they become friends. 381 00:13:41,742 --> 00:13:44,077 She starts sending him money. 382 00:13:44,144 --> 00:13:45,879 I mean, it's weird. ‐ Yeah. 383 00:13:45,946 --> 00:13:47,981 ‐ But she was very generous, and just said, like, 384 00:13:48,048 --> 00:13:48,982 "Oh, let me help you, let me help you, 385 00:13:49,049 --> 00:13:51,084 let me help you." ‐ Mm‐hmm. 386 00:13:51,151 --> 00:13:55,021 ‐ Eventually, they become kind of an item. 387 00:13:55,088 --> 00:13:56,957 Try to meet up, never happens. 388 00:13:57,023 --> 00:13:59,492 After almost two years, finally William decides, like, 389 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:01,301 "If I'm never gonna meet you, 390 00:14:01,367 --> 00:14:02,803 I gotta start dating someone else." 391 00:14:02,869 --> 00:14:03,970 ‐ Mm‐hmm. 392 00:14:04,037 --> 00:14:06,172 ‐ William meets Akirra. 393 00:14:06,239 --> 00:14:08,474 They start dating. Immediately, Jamie freaks out, 394 00:14:08,542 --> 00:14:11,177 starts suggesting that he should pay her back, 395 00:14:11,244 --> 00:14:14,214 and harassing him. Then she starts 396 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,950 bothering and harassing Akirra. ‐ Mm‐hmm. 397 00:14:17,017 --> 00:14:19,019 ‐ Messaging her from lots of weird accounts. 398 00:14:19,085 --> 00:14:21,154 ‐ Scary. 399 00:14:21,221 --> 00:14:22,756 ‐ All right, let's get into it. 400 00:14:22,823 --> 00:14:24,090 We got an email. 401 00:14:24,157 --> 00:14:25,158 "Hey guys, thanks for helping. 402 00:14:25,225 --> 00:14:26,693 "Her name is Jamie Gonzalez. 403 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,494 "She's 22 and lives in New York. 404 00:14:28,562 --> 00:14:29,896 "Here's her number. 405 00:14:29,963 --> 00:14:33,800 "Here's her Instagram, @eyebuttersyrup. 406 00:14:33,867 --> 00:14:35,902 "Here's her Twitter account." ‐ Okay. 407 00:14:35,969 --> 00:14:37,671 ‐ "Here's my Paypal login." Ooh. 408 00:14:37,738 --> 00:14:39,205 ‐ Yes, we need it. ‐ Great. 409 00:14:39,272 --> 00:14:42,008 And here are some photos that he attached. 410 00:14:42,075 --> 00:14:44,811 Let's just start with the pictures. 411 00:14:44,878 --> 00:14:46,913 Yeah, here we go. 412 00:14:48,782 --> 00:14:50,851 No, no. No direct hit on that one. 413 00:14:50,917 --> 00:14:54,220 Let's try the second one. 414 00:14:54,287 --> 00:14:55,689 Nope, no hit. 415 00:14:55,756 --> 00:14:57,023 Try this next picture. 416 00:14:57,090 --> 00:14:59,693 Just need one hit. 417 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,201 Okay, no. 418 00:15:01,267 --> 00:15:02,669 ‐ Damn. ‐ Let's see what happens 419 00:15:02,736 --> 00:15:06,406 if we go to her Instagram. 420 00:15:06,472 --> 00:15:09,309 Well, here's her account. 24,000 followers, 421 00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:10,977 but no posts? 422 00:15:11,044 --> 00:15:12,513 ‐ Right. ‐ What? 423 00:15:12,579 --> 00:15:14,280 This photo is not even close to the same girl. 424 00:15:14,347 --> 00:15:16,950 ‐ Right. So what is she, just buying followers? 425 00:15:17,017 --> 00:15:19,219 ‐ Probably. You can buy followers 426 00:15:19,285 --> 00:15:21,922 on any website. ‐ Who's she following? 427 00:15:21,988 --> 00:15:24,324 Is that William? 428 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:25,859 ‐ @willgetpaiddd? Yeah, we know. 429 00:15:25,926 --> 00:15:27,694 both: That's him. ‐ [laughs] 430 00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:29,663 ‐ That's pretty funny. 431 00:15:29,730 --> 00:15:31,765 ‐ Oh, my God. 432 00:15:31,832 --> 00:15:32,933 ‐ Let's see if we can find anything 433 00:15:32,999 --> 00:15:35,802 on her Twitter account. 434 00:15:35,869 --> 00:15:38,038 Wow, 70,000 followers. 435 00:15:38,104 --> 00:15:39,806 Yeah, I guess she just sort of... 436 00:15:39,873 --> 00:15:41,908 ‐ Posts travel stuff. 437 00:15:41,975 --> 00:15:43,243 You're buying‐‐ ‐ Right. 438 00:15:43,309 --> 00:15:45,946 ‐ This is, like, clearly bought followers. 439 00:15:46,012 --> 00:15:48,048 ‐ Right. So weird. 440 00:15:48,114 --> 00:15:50,851 The only thing left now is her phone number. 441 00:15:50,917 --> 00:15:56,990 Let's do a little phone search here on this phone number. 442 00:15:57,858 --> 00:15:59,292 Steven Aronofsky. 443 00:15:59,359 --> 00:16:01,768 Didn't we see "Aronofsky" somewhere? 444 00:16:01,835 --> 00:16:03,570 ‐ Paypal. ‐ Yes! 445 00:16:03,637 --> 00:16:05,438 ‐ The Paypal, the original Paypal transaction. 446 00:16:05,506 --> 00:16:06,773 ‐ That's where we saw it. ‐ Yeah. 447 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,775 ‐ Yes, it was. Let's look. 448 00:16:08,842 --> 00:16:10,877 Here's William's Paypal account. 449 00:16:10,944 --> 00:16:13,046 Let's go to Activity. 450 00:16:14,748 --> 00:16:16,683 Look, Jamie Aronofsky. 451 00:16:16,750 --> 00:16:17,851 ‐ Wow. 452 00:16:17,918 --> 00:16:19,686 I think that's her name. 453 00:16:19,753 --> 00:16:21,354 ‐ Right. 454 00:16:21,421 --> 00:16:24,725 God, there's a lot. These are all on one day. 455 00:16:24,791 --> 00:16:27,360 Every day, dozens. 456 00:16:27,427 --> 00:16:29,796 And the whole thing to me just doesn't make any sense. 457 00:16:29,863 --> 00:16:33,466 Why would some impersonator just willfully start sending 458 00:16:33,534 --> 00:16:35,135 thousands of dollars? 459 00:16:35,201 --> 00:16:37,504 To some guy they don't ever plan on even meeting? 460 00:16:37,571 --> 00:16:39,105 ‐ When he was telling the story, 461 00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:41,241 it felt like something was missing. 462 00:16:41,307 --> 00:16:42,909 ‐ Yeah. 463 00:16:42,976 --> 00:16:44,611 Anyway, all right. The fact that the phone number 464 00:16:44,678 --> 00:16:47,313 goes to a Steven Aronofsky and the original transaction 465 00:16:47,380 --> 00:16:49,482 was from a Jamie Aronofsky, 466 00:16:49,550 --> 00:16:51,451 pretty much suggests that her last name 467 00:16:51,518 --> 00:16:54,054 is probably Aronofsky. ‐ Mm‐hmm. 468 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,223 ‐ Steven Aronofsky. Either that's her dad, 469 00:16:57,290 --> 00:16:59,926 or she is daddy, if you know what I'm saying. 470 00:16:59,993 --> 00:17:01,467 ‐ My God. ‐ All right, let's just see 471 00:17:01,535 --> 00:17:03,469 what other sites come back with. 472 00:17:03,537 --> 00:17:05,338 'Cause sometimes you get different stuff 473 00:17:05,405 --> 00:17:08,709 on different sites for phone numbers. 474 00:17:10,010 --> 00:17:12,746 Jamie Aronofsky. 475 00:17:12,813 --> 00:17:15,982 All right, let's view details. 476 00:17:16,049 --> 00:17:19,019 ‐ Born November, 1993, age 25. ‐ Wow. 477 00:17:19,085 --> 00:17:23,089 And here's an address. Medford, New York. 478 00:17:23,156 --> 00:17:25,959 May also be known as Jamie L. Aronofsky. 479 00:17:26,026 --> 00:17:29,863 Oh, a picture? ‐ [gasps] 480 00:17:30,564 --> 00:17:33,499 ‐ Who's that? It's got a Jamie nametag. 481 00:17:33,567 --> 00:17:37,470 Two social networks connected. [gasps] 482 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,442 ‐ Jamie A. [gasps] 483 00:17:42,509 --> 00:17:44,077 This is her. ‐ Guess this is her. 484 00:17:44,144 --> 00:17:45,445 'Cause the phone number 485 00:17:45,512 --> 00:17:47,681 traces to her, her name is Jamie A. 486 00:17:47,748 --> 00:17:49,349 We have an address. 487 00:17:49,415 --> 00:17:52,118 Based on the fact that her Paypal name 488 00:17:52,185 --> 00:17:54,320 in the beginning was Jamie Aronofsky, 489 00:17:54,387 --> 00:17:55,856 phone number comes back 490 00:17:55,922 --> 00:17:57,791 to either Steven or Jamie Aronofsky, 491 00:17:57,858 --> 00:17:59,425 there's a Facebook page 492 00:17:59,492 --> 00:18:02,002 with a girl who lives in New York. 493 00:18:02,068 --> 00:18:03,904 We should go show this to William and Akirra, 494 00:18:03,970 --> 00:18:05,305 see what they think. 495 00:18:05,371 --> 00:18:07,173 ‐ Yeah. ‐ And I think meeting her 496 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,843 is the only way he's ever gonna be able to move on... 497 00:18:09,910 --> 00:18:11,311 ‐ Agreed. ‐ And be with Akirra. 498 00:18:11,377 --> 00:18:13,113 ‐ Agreed. ‐ And get her to stop 499 00:18:13,179 --> 00:18:14,681 messing with them. 500 00:18:18,585 --> 00:18:20,654 [upbeat music] 501 00:18:20,721 --> 00:18:22,589 ♪♪ ♪♪ 502 00:18:22,656 --> 00:18:23,957 [knocking] 503 00:18:24,891 --> 00:18:26,326 ‐ Hello, there. ‐ Hello. 504 00:18:26,392 --> 00:18:28,428 ‐ Hey. ‐ How you guys doing today? 505 00:18:28,494 --> 00:18:30,664 We can sit over here, guys. ‐ Okay. 506 00:18:30,731 --> 00:18:32,666 ‐ It's cozy in here. 507 00:18:32,733 --> 00:18:33,700 ‐ Ah. 508 00:18:33,767 --> 00:18:35,502 Any new developments? 509 00:18:35,569 --> 00:18:37,604 ‐ No new Paypal requests? 510 00:18:37,671 --> 00:18:39,272 ‐ Mm‐mm. ‐ Nope, anything. 511 00:18:39,339 --> 00:18:40,841 ‐ All right, so look. We've been obviously 512 00:18:40,907 --> 00:18:43,544 talking about what reason 513 00:18:43,610 --> 00:18:48,281 Jamie would have for sending you all that money. 514 00:18:48,348 --> 00:18:50,050 You met her, you started talking. 515 00:18:50,116 --> 00:18:52,318 You mentioned that you were tight on cash. 516 00:18:52,385 --> 00:18:54,120 ‐ Yes. ‐ But did she ever 517 00:18:54,187 --> 00:18:56,222 actively talk about having lots of money? 518 00:18:56,289 --> 00:18:59,092 ‐ She was talking about a lot of money, just‐‐ 519 00:18:59,159 --> 00:19:01,902 she used to, like, talk about sex and stuff like that. 520 00:19:01,968 --> 00:19:03,770 And, like... ‐ So, well, 521 00:19:03,837 --> 00:19:05,205 that's what makes me wonder. 522 00:19:05,271 --> 00:19:10,076 Like, was she paying you for sexual favors? 523 00:19:10,143 --> 00:19:12,145 ‐ No. That was not in our agreement. 524 00:19:12,212 --> 00:19:14,214 We had an agreement. Me and her had an agreement. 525 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,016 ‐ An understanding. ‐ Mm‐hmm. 526 00:19:16,082 --> 00:19:17,483 ‐ I talk to you and give you attention, 527 00:19:17,551 --> 00:19:18,952 and you give me money. ‐ Right. 528 00:19:19,019 --> 00:19:20,587 ‐ Yeah. That's‐‐thank you. 529 00:19:20,654 --> 00:19:23,990 ‐ That's called an escort service. 530 00:19:24,057 --> 00:19:25,158 ‐ Well. ‐ And you could have 531 00:19:25,225 --> 00:19:26,660 a real business with this. 532 00:19:26,727 --> 00:19:27,961 ‐ You could be a gigolo. 533 00:19:28,028 --> 00:19:29,495 ‐ A gigolo? What's a gigolo? 534 00:19:29,563 --> 00:19:30,964 ‐ It's a male escort. ‐ It's what you're doing. 535 00:19:31,031 --> 00:19:33,266 ‐ Yeah, you're like a virtual gigolo. 536 00:19:33,333 --> 00:19:35,569 ‐ You understand that it's weird, right? 537 00:19:35,636 --> 00:19:37,237 ‐ Yeah, it's very weird. ‐ From an outsider‐‐ 538 00:19:37,303 --> 00:19:39,172 the fact that you met some sort of 539 00:19:39,239 --> 00:19:41,307 random person online who lived far away. 540 00:19:41,374 --> 00:19:43,043 Like, you knew she was falling in love with you. 541 00:19:43,109 --> 00:19:44,845 ‐ Yeah, I knew she was falling in love with me. 542 00:19:44,911 --> 00:19:47,614 ‐ And did you ever feel kinda bad taking the money? 543 00:19:47,681 --> 00:19:49,282 ‐ Nope. 544 00:19:49,349 --> 00:19:51,918 She gave me the blueprint to do that, so I kept‐‐ 545 00:19:51,985 --> 00:19:53,319 It got even bigger. First, it started 546 00:19:53,386 --> 00:19:57,023 $20, $50, $60, $70. You know, kept going up. 547 00:19:57,090 --> 00:19:58,925 Up and up. And I was loving it. 548 00:19:58,992 --> 00:20:00,460 I was in love with that. 549 00:20:00,527 --> 00:20:02,536 ‐ So do you really think you were in love with her 550 00:20:02,603 --> 00:20:06,339 or in love with what she was providing you with? 551 00:20:06,406 --> 00:20:08,041 ‐ Even though it wasn't her thing, 552 00:20:08,108 --> 00:20:10,711 she always kept saying you want to do for me. 553 00:20:10,777 --> 00:20:12,946 I guess on her side, she thought we, you know, 554 00:20:13,013 --> 00:20:14,548 genuinely, like, in a relationship. 555 00:20:16,316 --> 00:20:17,984 ‐ But you said yesterday 556 00:20:18,051 --> 00:20:19,520 you really did care for Jamie. 557 00:20:19,586 --> 00:20:21,154 She really cared for you. You really thought 558 00:20:21,221 --> 00:20:23,056 that was going to be something. 559 00:20:27,594 --> 00:20:30,096 ‐ Akirra, do you wanna go outside 560 00:20:30,163 --> 00:20:31,865 and have some girl talk? 561 00:20:31,932 --> 00:20:33,967 ‐ Yeah, that's fine. ‐ Okay, cool. 562 00:20:35,636 --> 00:20:40,140 Let's go in the car. I'm trying to be warm. 563 00:20:40,206 --> 00:20:42,543 Like, yesterday, obviously, you know, 564 00:20:42,609 --> 00:20:45,646 William was saying that he was, like, 565 00:20:45,712 --> 00:20:47,247 in love with this girl, 566 00:20:47,313 --> 00:20:49,315 and like, that's the reason why 567 00:20:49,382 --> 00:20:50,851 he kept the relationship going. 568 00:20:50,917 --> 00:20:53,353 But now, he's making it seem like 569 00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:54,855 it's all about money. ‐ It's about the money, yeah. 570 00:20:54,921 --> 00:20:56,389 ‐ Like, for one second‐‐ ‐ Does he think that's what 571 00:20:56,456 --> 00:20:58,124 you wanna hear? Maybe that's why 572 00:20:58,191 --> 00:20:59,893 he's saying that? ‐ I think so. 573 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,001 I guess he's trying to protect my feelings 574 00:21:01,067 --> 00:21:03,003 but, like, he admitted to me 575 00:21:03,069 --> 00:21:04,337 that he was still in love with this girl 576 00:21:04,404 --> 00:21:05,405 and that's when I was definitely, like‐‐ 577 00:21:05,471 --> 00:21:06,673 ‐ Still in love with her now? 578 00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:07,674 ‐ Yeah. 579 00:21:09,142 --> 00:21:10,376 ‐ All right. So, okay. Real talk, 580 00:21:10,443 --> 00:21:13,146 guy to guy. ‐ Guy to guy. 581 00:21:13,213 --> 00:21:16,216 ‐ If you were given the choice right now 582 00:21:16,282 --> 00:21:19,219 between Jamie and Akirra... ‐ Mm‐hmm. 583 00:21:19,285 --> 00:21:20,754 ‐ And Jamie was everything 584 00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:22,956 she said she was, ‐ Yeah. 585 00:21:23,023 --> 00:21:25,091 ‐ I imagine that would be hard for you. 586 00:21:25,158 --> 00:21:27,060 ‐ Jamie, she genuinely cared and loved me 587 00:21:27,127 --> 00:21:29,395 by sending me money to help me, 588 00:21:29,462 --> 00:21:31,998 lifting me up when I needed it. 589 00:21:32,065 --> 00:21:35,836 But things just didn't go how we planned. 590 00:21:35,902 --> 00:21:37,504 ‐ Right. 591 00:21:37,571 --> 00:21:41,642 ‐ Akirra is what Jamie was supposed to have been. 592 00:21:41,708 --> 00:21:44,778 ‐ Clearly, this is not just about the money. 593 00:21:44,845 --> 00:21:46,780 ‐ That's when I was like, "If you do find out 594 00:21:46,847 --> 00:21:48,348 "if you do find out who this person is, 595 00:21:48,414 --> 00:21:49,583 "and, like, y'all wanna move on together, 596 00:21:49,650 --> 00:21:51,451 then I'm fine just being your friend." 597 00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:52,619 And that's when he was, like, 598 00:21:52,686 --> 00:21:53,887 "I wanna be with you. 599 00:21:53,954 --> 00:21:55,221 "There's nothing that she can do." 600 00:21:55,288 --> 00:21:56,623 But I'm just sitting here confused, 601 00:21:56,690 --> 00:21:58,925 like, what's really going on? ‐ Right. 602 00:21:58,992 --> 00:22:00,827 ‐ What's really gonna happen? ‐ Looking kinda shady, yeah. 603 00:22:00,894 --> 00:22:03,403 ‐ Would you say that you're prepared to leave him? 604 00:22:03,469 --> 00:22:04,638 ‐ Yeah. 605 00:22:04,705 --> 00:22:06,339 Moving on ain't hard. I'm pretty, young. 606 00:22:06,406 --> 00:22:07,974 Like, I have a car, I graduated high school, 607 00:22:08,041 --> 00:22:09,409 like, very smart. 608 00:22:09,475 --> 00:22:11,945 ‐ I feel like you're not going to get 609 00:22:12,012 --> 00:22:15,849 the 100% honest truth about this unless he meets her. 610 00:22:15,916 --> 00:22:17,818 ‐ Exactly. 611 00:22:17,884 --> 00:22:19,986 ‐ I had it rough growing up. 612 00:22:20,053 --> 00:22:21,321 Ain't had everything I wanted, 613 00:22:21,387 --> 00:22:22,989 couldn't get everything I wanted, 614 00:22:23,056 --> 00:22:25,759 everything that I ever wanted or needed. 615 00:22:25,826 --> 00:22:29,062 Jamie provided that for me. 616 00:22:29,129 --> 00:22:30,330 I never had nobody in my life‐‐ 617 00:22:30,396 --> 00:22:32,599 my mother, my father‐‐ 618 00:22:32,666 --> 00:22:37,303 none of them did, like, so much what Jamie did for me. 619 00:22:37,370 --> 00:22:39,205 ‐ Does Akirra know about that? 620 00:22:47,681 --> 00:22:49,115 ‐ We're back. 621 00:22:50,584 --> 00:22:52,485 Just a little man‐hating, you know. 622 00:22:52,553 --> 00:22:55,188 The usual. ‐ [laughs] 623 00:22:55,255 --> 00:22:57,490 ‐ All right, so look. Enough chit‐chat. 624 00:22:57,558 --> 00:22:59,492 And I don't wanna waste too much time. 625 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,968 So let's just‐‐ we'll walk you through it. 626 00:23:02,035 --> 00:23:03,670 We did a search for the phone number. 627 00:23:03,737 --> 00:23:05,205 The first one 628 00:23:05,271 --> 00:23:08,775 came back registered to Steven Aronofsky. 629 00:23:08,842 --> 00:23:10,577 We went into your Paypal. 630 00:23:10,644 --> 00:23:12,045 When she started sending you money, 631 00:23:12,112 --> 00:23:14,447 it was coming from Jamie Aronofsky. 632 00:23:14,515 --> 00:23:16,850 But this guy obviously is a guy, he's 61, 633 00:23:16,917 --> 00:23:19,553 so we thought, okay, maybe it's her dad. 634 00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:21,888 It's a New York, Long Island phone number. 635 00:23:21,955 --> 00:23:24,357 So we ran the phone number again on a different website, 636 00:23:24,424 --> 00:23:25,926 and look at this! 637 00:23:25,992 --> 00:23:30,196 Came back as Jamie Aronofsky. 638 00:23:30,263 --> 00:23:33,567 But this one also has 639 00:23:33,634 --> 00:23:35,235 a Facebook that it brings up 640 00:23:35,301 --> 00:23:37,804 for Jamie A. 641 00:23:41,407 --> 00:23:45,045 And it's this girl who lives in New York. 642 00:23:45,111 --> 00:23:47,180 She looks a little different. 643 00:23:47,247 --> 00:23:49,382 ‐ Way different. 644 00:23:49,449 --> 00:23:51,351 ‐ [laughs] ‐ But she's got a necklace 645 00:23:51,417 --> 00:23:53,286 that says "Jamie." 646 00:23:53,353 --> 00:23:55,556 So there's a chance most of what you think 647 00:23:55,622 --> 00:23:57,423 you know about Jamie is true, 648 00:23:57,490 --> 00:23:58,992 except she's not the girl in the pictures. 649 00:23:59,059 --> 00:24:01,802 She's this girl. ‐ Great. 650 00:24:01,868 --> 00:24:04,470 ‐ Um, kind of unfortunately, that's as far as we got. 651 00:24:04,538 --> 00:24:07,641 But all we can really do now is just call her, 652 00:24:07,708 --> 00:24:11,678 and offer her an opportunity to finally meet you. 653 00:24:11,745 --> 00:24:12,779 ‐ Do it. 654 00:24:12,846 --> 00:24:15,115 ‐ So I'm gonna call her. 655 00:24:15,181 --> 00:24:16,282 ‐ Okay. 656 00:24:16,349 --> 00:24:18,318 [line trilling] ‐ Jamie. 657 00:24:20,020 --> 00:24:21,622 ‐ Yeah, hey, is this Jamie? 658 00:24:23,256 --> 00:24:25,491 ‐ Hey, Jamie. My name is Nev, 659 00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:27,928 from the TV show "Catfish." 660 00:24:27,994 --> 00:24:33,099 I would love to help you finally meet up with Will, 661 00:24:33,166 --> 00:24:36,670 who I know you've been talking to for a few years now. 662 00:24:36,737 --> 00:24:40,907 Um, are you up in Queens or Long Island? 663 00:24:45,078 --> 00:24:46,312 ‐ Okay, well‐‐ 664 00:24:47,347 --> 00:24:48,815 [disconnect tone] 665 00:24:48,882 --> 00:24:51,184 ‐ Mother[bleep], I knew that was gonna happen. 666 00:24:51,251 --> 00:24:53,554 Is that the same voice that you listened to when you talked 667 00:24:53,620 --> 00:24:54,921 to her on the phone? ‐ Yes, that's her voice. 668 00:24:54,988 --> 00:24:56,389 ‐ That's her? ‐ That's the voice. 669 00:24:56,456 --> 00:24:57,323 ‐ Always, that's the voice you hear? 670 00:24:57,390 --> 00:24:58,458 ‐ Yeah, that's the voice. 671 00:24:58,525 --> 00:25:00,701 ‐ You could text her. 672 00:25:03,203 --> 00:25:04,437 ‐ I said, "Hey, Jamie. I understand 673 00:25:04,505 --> 00:25:06,507 "now isn't a good time for you. 674 00:25:06,573 --> 00:25:08,942 "But you can't ignore this situation any longer. 675 00:25:09,009 --> 00:25:11,645 "I know there's a lot going on here, and it's complicated, 676 00:25:11,712 --> 00:25:13,980 "but both you and Will owe it to yourselves 677 00:25:14,047 --> 00:25:17,117 "to finally meet face to face and sort this out. 678 00:25:17,183 --> 00:25:19,485 "We will come to NYC tomorrow 679 00:25:19,553 --> 00:25:21,755 and expect you to find some time to meet us." 680 00:25:21,822 --> 00:25:23,189 ‐ Mm‐hmm. 681 00:25:23,256 --> 00:25:24,591 That's right. 682 00:25:24,658 --> 00:25:26,159 We don't have to give her a choice. 683 00:25:26,226 --> 00:25:27,227 ‐ Yeah, she don't have a choice 684 00:25:27,293 --> 00:25:28,729 because I'm gonna find her. 685 00:25:28,795 --> 00:25:30,296 ‐ We're gonna go up to New York tomorrow. 686 00:25:30,363 --> 00:25:32,799 We have an address. We'll figure it out. 687 00:25:32,866 --> 00:25:34,300 ‐ Okay, sure. ‐ That work? 688 00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:35,636 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Okay, yeah, that's fine. 689 00:25:35,702 --> 00:25:37,437 ‐ All right. ‐ All right, thank you. 690 00:25:37,504 --> 00:25:39,405 ‐ Pack your bags. ‐ Okay. 691 00:25:39,472 --> 00:25:42,275 ‐ New York bound. ‐ All right. 692 00:25:42,342 --> 00:25:44,845 ‐ There's no way that this relationship can continue 693 00:25:44,911 --> 00:25:46,613 as it is. 694 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,049 ‐ She told me in the car that she believes in her heart 695 00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:51,017 that he's in love with Jamie. 696 00:25:51,084 --> 00:25:53,954 And she said she's fully prepared to leave him. 697 00:25:54,020 --> 00:25:55,121 ‐ Wow. 698 00:25:55,188 --> 00:25:57,323 Lot of drama 699 00:25:57,390 --> 00:26:00,193 in that relationship right now; I mean‐‐ 700 00:26:00,260 --> 00:26:02,035 ‐ I mean, this could be make or break 701 00:26:02,102 --> 00:26:04,337 for their relationship. 702 00:26:08,474 --> 00:26:09,910 [line trilling] 703 00:26:09,976 --> 00:26:11,177 ‐ Good morning. 704 00:26:11,244 --> 00:26:13,980 ‐ Hey, rise and shine. 705 00:26:14,047 --> 00:26:15,816 No response yet from Jamie. 706 00:26:15,882 --> 00:26:17,551 Just roll up? ‐ I'm down. 707 00:26:17,618 --> 00:26:19,753 ‐ ♪♪ I feel like a million bucks ♪♪ 708 00:26:19,820 --> 00:26:23,156 ♪♪ No, I never can get enough ♪♪ 709 00:26:23,223 --> 00:26:24,691 ♪♪ Cha‐Cha‐Cha‐Ching ♪♪ 710 00:26:24,758 --> 00:26:26,059 ‐ Good morning! 711 00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:27,928 ‐ ♪♪ I feel like a million bucks ♪♪ 712 00:26:27,994 --> 00:26:30,396 ♪♪ Uh‐huh, you know I got all the love ♪♪ 713 00:26:30,463 --> 00:26:32,833 ‐ Your first flight. 714 00:26:32,899 --> 00:26:36,302 ♪♪ ♪♪ 715 00:26:38,238 --> 00:26:40,774 ‐ ♪♪ Cha‐Cha‐Cha‐Ching ♪♪ 716 00:26:40,841 --> 00:26:43,009 ♪♪ I feel like a million bucks ♪♪ 717 00:26:43,076 --> 00:26:45,712 ♪♪ No, I never can get enough ♪♪ 718 00:26:45,779 --> 00:26:47,480 ♪♪ Cha‐Cha‐Cha‐Ching ♪♪ 719 00:26:47,548 --> 00:26:48,915 ‐ Let's let her know we're here in New York. 720 00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:50,551 ‐ ♪♪ I feel like a million bucks ♪♪ 721 00:26:50,617 --> 00:26:53,687 ♪♪ Uh‐huh, you know I got all the love ♪♪ 722 00:26:54,655 --> 00:26:56,857 ‐ All right, guys. How's everyone feeling? 723 00:26:56,923 --> 00:26:58,358 What happened last night? 724 00:27:29,763 --> 00:27:31,665 [electronic tone] ‐ Is that Jamie? 725 00:27:31,732 --> 00:27:33,466 ‐ She sent an address. 726 00:27:33,534 --> 00:27:35,602 She says she can meet around 11:30. 727 00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:39,039 ‐ Wow, all right, so we've got a date. 728 00:27:39,105 --> 00:27:43,209 Here is the hotel. 729 00:27:43,276 --> 00:27:46,747 Let's just grab your stuff. 730 00:27:55,255 --> 00:27:56,523 ‐ So what's all this? 731 00:27:56,590 --> 00:27:58,559 ‐ Just messages of me and Jamie. 732 00:28:04,738 --> 00:28:07,240 ‐ That's the girl we saw on the Facebook page. 733 00:28:07,307 --> 00:28:08,742 ‐ It's the same girl to you? 734 00:28:08,809 --> 00:28:10,310 ‐ Are you joking? Yes. 735 00:28:10,376 --> 00:28:11,678 It's the same girl, 736 00:28:11,745 --> 00:28:13,046 With the glasses and everything. 737 00:28:13,113 --> 00:28:14,047 Come on, man. 738 00:28:15,115 --> 00:28:16,650 ‐ Are you kidding? 739 00:28:16,717 --> 00:28:18,318 ‐ Yes, it's the same girl. 740 00:28:18,384 --> 00:28:21,054 [laughs] What? 741 00:28:23,323 --> 00:28:25,125 ‐ When was this? 742 00:28:30,063 --> 00:28:31,431 ‐ Well, I think we've gotta tell her. 743 00:28:31,497 --> 00:28:33,066 ‐ [exhales] 744 00:28:36,837 --> 00:28:40,340 ‐ Did you know that William had real photos of Jamie 745 00:28:40,406 --> 00:28:42,509 and he forgot? 746 00:28:42,576 --> 00:28:45,746 ‐ No. He just‐‐mm. 747 00:28:45,812 --> 00:28:47,313 ‐ Bro, just get out of my [bleep] face. 748 00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:49,950 Just go. ‐ You gonna be okay? 749 00:28:50,016 --> 00:28:52,252 ‐ This [bleep] was a waste of time. 750 00:28:52,318 --> 00:28:54,988 The truth always comes out. 751 00:29:00,594 --> 00:29:02,135 ‐ Akirra, is she okay? 752 00:29:02,202 --> 00:29:03,369 ‐ She's in the bathroom. 753 00:29:03,436 --> 00:29:05,105 I just spoke to her, 754 00:29:05,171 --> 00:29:07,273 and she says doesn't want to come with us to meet Jamie. 755 00:29:07,340 --> 00:29:08,709 ‐ I wish she could come with me. 756 00:29:08,775 --> 00:29:10,877 Like, that's what I know. She feel how she's feeling. 757 00:29:10,944 --> 00:29:13,346 ‐ But I understand where Akirra's coming from. 758 00:29:13,413 --> 00:29:15,248 I mean, she's upset. 759 00:29:15,315 --> 00:29:17,951 She's having a hard time trusting you right now. 760 00:29:18,018 --> 00:29:19,452 Why don't we respect her wishes 761 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,488 and just leave her alone to cool down? 762 00:29:24,224 --> 00:29:25,859 [electronic tone] ‐ Akirra just said 763 00:29:25,926 --> 00:29:27,528 she's ready to go [bleep] home 764 00:29:27,594 --> 00:29:29,796 and she's ready to go the [bleep] off. 765 00:29:29,863 --> 00:29:30,731 ‐ Oh. 766 00:29:30,797 --> 00:29:32,465 ‐ I know I [bleep] up. 767 00:29:37,003 --> 00:29:39,540 ‐ All right, here's the park. 768 00:29:41,307 --> 00:29:42,709 ‐ [sighs] 769 00:29:42,776 --> 00:29:43,844 ‐ What's wrong? 770 00:29:43,910 --> 00:29:45,111 ‐ I'm worrying about Akirra. 771 00:29:45,178 --> 00:29:46,547 That's what I'm thinking about right now. 772 00:29:46,613 --> 00:29:48,549 I'm thinking, like, what's going through her mind. 773 00:29:48,615 --> 00:29:51,585 I just want everything to just be... 774 00:29:51,652 --> 00:29:53,954 you know, okay. 775 00:29:56,990 --> 00:29:58,559 I still wish Akirra could have came. 776 00:29:58,625 --> 00:30:00,801 ‐ I don't think you'd want Akirra there. 777 00:30:00,867 --> 00:30:01,835 ‐ Yeah. 778 00:30:01,902 --> 00:30:03,269 ‐ All right. 779 00:30:03,336 --> 00:30:04,370 Let's see what's going on out here. 780 00:30:04,437 --> 00:30:06,406 ‐ Okay, man, let's do this. 781 00:30:06,472 --> 00:30:09,409 [suspenseful music] 782 00:30:09,475 --> 00:30:11,111 ♪♪ ♪♪ 783 00:30:13,947 --> 00:30:15,448 ‐ Crazy, man. 784 00:30:17,618 --> 00:30:19,586 ‐ I think I see her. 785 00:30:19,653 --> 00:30:21,454 ‐ What the [bleep]? 786 00:30:25,258 --> 00:30:26,727 ‐ I think I see her. 787 00:30:26,793 --> 00:30:27,928 Jamie? 788 00:30:27,994 --> 00:30:29,896 ‐ Does it look like her? 789 00:30:29,963 --> 00:30:30,764 ‐ I don't know. 790 00:30:30,831 --> 00:30:33,099 [suspenseful music] 791 00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:35,235 ‐ Oh, my [bleep] God. 792 00:30:35,301 --> 00:30:37,403 This is [bleep] crazy, cuz. 793 00:30:37,470 --> 00:30:40,907 This is [bleep] crazy. 794 00:30:40,974 --> 00:30:42,509 ‐ Hi. 795 00:30:42,576 --> 00:30:45,078 ‐ How you doing? Nev. 796 00:30:45,145 --> 00:30:46,913 ‐ I'm Jamie. ‐ Kamie. 797 00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:47,948 ‐ Nice to meet you. 798 00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:49,750 ‐ Obviously, you know William. 799 00:30:49,816 --> 00:30:51,585 ‐ Yeah. 800 00:30:51,652 --> 00:30:52,786 ‐ Why don't we talk out here? 801 00:30:52,853 --> 00:30:54,320 It's just a little dark under there. 802 00:30:54,387 --> 00:30:57,190 So what's going on? 803 00:30:57,257 --> 00:30:59,693 ‐ Um, a lot. 804 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,067 ‐ You're Jamie? ‐ Yeah. 805 00:31:01,134 --> 00:31:03,504 ‐ Whole time, you were Jamie? ‐ Mm‐hmm. 806 00:31:03,570 --> 00:31:07,440 But I did tell you in texts 807 00:31:07,508 --> 00:31:09,342 who I was, and I sent you pictures. 808 00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:10,744 ‐ You're right, 809 00:31:10,811 --> 00:31:13,079 because we just saw. ‐ We just saw. 810 00:31:13,146 --> 00:31:14,948 ‐ Yeah. ‐ So when you first met him, 811 00:31:15,015 --> 00:31:16,249 were you lying about 812 00:31:16,316 --> 00:31:17,584 the pictures? ‐ Yes, I was. 813 00:31:17,651 --> 00:31:19,185 ‐ Okay, so initially, you were using 814 00:31:19,252 --> 00:31:20,921 different pictures. ‐ Mm‐hmm. 815 00:31:20,987 --> 00:31:22,388 ‐ So you admitted that you were using the wrong pictures, 816 00:31:22,455 --> 00:31:23,690 and you sent him the right pictures. 817 00:31:23,757 --> 00:31:25,258 ‐ Yeah. ‐ But then did you go back 818 00:31:25,325 --> 00:31:27,160 to using fake pictures again? 819 00:31:27,227 --> 00:31:28,595 ‐ Yeah, because he kept on 820 00:31:28,662 --> 00:31:30,363 not really believing that that was me. 821 00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:31,898 So I said I would just‐‐ 822 00:31:31,965 --> 00:31:33,834 Like, in my head, I said I would go along with it. 823 00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:36,102 ‐ So that is confusing for him. ‐ Yeah. 824 00:31:36,169 --> 00:31:38,839 ‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ I mean... 825 00:31:38,905 --> 00:31:40,841 for most people, I would think 826 00:31:40,907 --> 00:31:43,076 they would‐‐they would get it. 827 00:31:44,978 --> 00:31:47,948 ‐ When I started developing feelings that I had, 828 00:31:48,014 --> 00:31:49,482 I came clean. 829 00:31:49,550 --> 00:31:51,585 Because I felt it was the right thing to do. 830 00:31:51,652 --> 00:31:54,387 ‐ Thank you. ‐ [laughs] 831 00:31:54,454 --> 00:31:56,723 ‐ You are the first person. 832 00:31:56,790 --> 00:31:58,625 You lied about who you were, 833 00:31:58,692 --> 00:32:00,226 then you got into a relationship, 834 00:32:00,293 --> 00:32:02,068 you had feelings for him, so you told him the truth. 835 00:32:02,135 --> 00:32:04,070 ‐ Yeah, because it was bothering me for a while. 836 00:32:04,137 --> 00:32:07,508 ‐ You didn't wanna believe it. ‐ I didn't wanna believe it. 837 00:32:07,574 --> 00:32:09,643 ‐ What's up with all the money? 838 00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:11,812 'Cause that's very confusing to us. 839 00:32:11,878 --> 00:32:13,379 ‐ I had feelings for him, 840 00:32:13,446 --> 00:32:15,348 and I just wanted to help him out. 841 00:32:15,415 --> 00:32:17,951 ‐ Just because you liked him? ‐ Because she loved me. 842 00:32:18,018 --> 00:32:19,152 ‐ Yeah. 843 00:32:19,219 --> 00:32:20,654 ‐ And that was just your money that‐‐ 844 00:32:20,721 --> 00:32:23,557 ‐ Yeah, that I was making on social media. 845 00:32:23,624 --> 00:32:25,358 ‐ I mean, I never really had 846 00:32:25,425 --> 00:32:28,194 a really serious relationship. 847 00:32:28,261 --> 00:32:30,130 And, it was like, 848 00:32:30,196 --> 00:32:33,867 if I sent him money, yeah, it would keep him around. 849 00:32:33,934 --> 00:32:35,769 I look at it now that I shouldn't have done that. 850 00:32:35,836 --> 00:32:38,471 But because I couldn't break how I felt, 851 00:32:38,539 --> 00:32:41,241 then I just kept doing it. 852 00:32:42,909 --> 00:32:46,379 ‐ These other accounts that I think you created 853 00:32:46,446 --> 00:32:49,315 to mess with him and other girls that he was dating, 854 00:32:49,382 --> 00:32:50,784 was that‐‐ ‐ No. 855 00:32:50,851 --> 00:32:52,085 ‐ Did you not make any of those accounts? 856 00:32:52,152 --> 00:32:54,888 ‐ No. ‐ But you've contacted Akirra. 857 00:32:54,955 --> 00:32:56,056 ‐ No. 858 00:32:56,122 --> 00:32:57,958 I mean, I don't know what messages 859 00:32:58,024 --> 00:32:59,359 that is referring to‐‐ ‐ Well, saying, 860 00:32:59,425 --> 00:33:00,894 "I know where you live." ‐ Yeah. 861 00:33:00,961 --> 00:33:02,268 ‐ "I want my money back." ‐ Yeah, I've said that, 862 00:33:02,335 --> 00:33:05,005 but I didn't actually, like, think that‐‐ 863 00:33:05,071 --> 00:33:06,740 if I was, like, actually gonna do that. 864 00:33:06,807 --> 00:33:08,675 ‐ You didn't try to log in to her Instagram account? 865 00:33:08,742 --> 00:33:11,111 ‐ No, there's no way I could've done that. 866 00:33:12,913 --> 00:33:15,048 ‐ I don't see nobody else doing that. 867 00:33:15,115 --> 00:33:17,818 ‐ I didn't have a valid reason to go after Akirra‐‐ 868 00:33:17,884 --> 00:33:19,520 ‐ Well, yes you did. ‐ You do. 869 00:33:19,586 --> 00:33:20,854 ‐ Honestly, yeah. ‐ You love him, 870 00:33:20,921 --> 00:33:22,388 and have a relationship with him, 871 00:33:22,455 --> 00:33:24,190 and then he started dating Akirra. 872 00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:27,961 ‐ I wouldn't blame you, because 873 00:33:28,028 --> 00:33:30,096 I would be [bleep] pissed off, too. 874 00:33:30,163 --> 00:33:31,898 I would be, like, "Who the hell 875 00:33:31,965 --> 00:33:35,802 do you think you are, just walking all over me?" 876 00:33:41,307 --> 00:33:44,344 ‐ I feel like you're really judgmental at times, you are. 877 00:33:44,410 --> 00:33:46,079 ‐ I'm judgmental? ‐ Yeah. 878 00:33:46,146 --> 00:33:48,682 ‐ I don't think I'm judgmental. I don't judge people. 879 00:33:52,418 --> 00:33:54,487 ‐ I don't think that's right. I would not say that to you. 880 00:33:54,555 --> 00:33:57,524 ‐ So wait, so after you showed him pictures of yourself, 881 00:33:57,591 --> 00:34:00,093 he said, "I'm not attracted to this girl, she's ugly." 882 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,769 ‐ Yeah. ‐ That's [bleep] up. 883 00:34:02,836 --> 00:34:04,137 ‐ And he said that 884 00:34:04,204 --> 00:34:05,739 he didn't find my actual voice attractive. 885 00:34:05,806 --> 00:34:07,674 ‐ You said her voice was ugly? 886 00:34:07,741 --> 00:34:08,942 ‐ Yeah, I said her voice was ugly. 887 00:34:09,009 --> 00:34:10,443 I don't remember, though, but‐‐yeah. 888 00:34:10,511 --> 00:34:11,945 ‐ I do. ‐ You don't have a lot 889 00:34:12,012 --> 00:34:14,648 of memories of a lot of things. ‐ 'Cause I try to forget. 890 00:34:14,715 --> 00:34:16,683 ‐ I remember everything. I pretty much keep 891 00:34:16,750 --> 00:34:18,484 all of our convos, I have everything, yeah. 892 00:34:18,552 --> 00:34:20,453 ‐ That was how much you was in love with me, huh? 893 00:34:20,521 --> 00:34:21,688 ‐ Yeah. ‐ You really did love me. 894 00:34:21,755 --> 00:34:23,289 ‐ Mm‐hmm. 895 00:34:23,356 --> 00:34:27,628 ‐ What are your feelings toward William now? 896 00:34:27,694 --> 00:34:29,295 ‐ I still love him, I do. 897 00:34:29,362 --> 00:34:31,565 I think he is a great person, 898 00:34:31,632 --> 00:34:35,201 regardless of me feeling hurt. 899 00:34:35,268 --> 00:34:37,638 ‐ So you would still like to have a relationship 900 00:34:37,704 --> 00:34:39,272 of some kind, and obviously, 901 00:34:39,339 --> 00:34:41,041 you still have strong feelings for him. 902 00:34:41,107 --> 00:34:43,209 ‐ Yeah. ‐ But he's in a relationship. 903 00:34:43,276 --> 00:34:45,746 Do you have any‐‐ what are your feelings now 904 00:34:45,812 --> 00:34:47,548 towards Jamie? I mean, do you wanna 905 00:34:47,614 --> 00:34:49,550 still be friends? 906 00:34:49,616 --> 00:34:51,384 ‐ No. 907 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,756 I just feel like we should just go our separate ways, 908 00:34:55,822 --> 00:34:57,323 move on from this, 909 00:34:57,390 --> 00:34:58,959 because Akirra‐‐she‐‐ 910 00:34:59,025 --> 00:35:01,001 she thinks, like, that, you know, we talk, 911 00:35:01,067 --> 00:35:02,703 and that I do have feel‐‐ 912 00:35:02,769 --> 00:35:04,104 I still love her and care about her. 913 00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:06,106 But that's not the case at all, 914 00:35:06,172 --> 00:35:07,774 because I love Akirra, and I wouldn't do that. 915 00:35:07,841 --> 00:35:09,242 I'm not a cheater. 916 00:35:09,309 --> 00:35:12,212 ‐ William, if you don't wanna be friends with Jamie, 917 00:35:12,278 --> 00:35:15,315 then you also can't be accepting her money. 918 00:35:15,381 --> 00:35:17,083 ‐ I know. 919 00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:19,786 I apologize. I'm sorry for any‐‐ 920 00:35:19,853 --> 00:35:20,954 for everything I did, 921 00:35:21,021 --> 00:35:22,656 or if you felt‐‐ you felt that I hurt you. 922 00:35:22,723 --> 00:35:25,425 I apologize for that. 923 00:35:25,491 --> 00:35:26,860 ‐ I feel the same way. 924 00:35:26,927 --> 00:35:28,529 I mean, yeah, I'm sorry I lied to you 925 00:35:28,595 --> 00:35:29,696 about a lot of things. 926 00:35:31,164 --> 00:35:34,000 ‐ I think that moving forward, 927 00:35:34,067 --> 00:35:36,369 you're gonna find somebody who truly loves you 928 00:35:36,436 --> 00:35:38,839 and respects you, and you won't feel judged. 929 00:35:38,905 --> 00:35:41,207 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Because you do 930 00:35:41,274 --> 00:35:44,545 strike all of us, I think, as a really great person 931 00:35:44,611 --> 00:35:46,513 and you deserve to have that. 932 00:35:46,580 --> 00:35:47,748 [bleep] this guy. ‐ Yeah. 933 00:35:47,814 --> 00:35:50,316 [laughter] 934 00:35:50,383 --> 00:35:52,753 ‐ All right. 935 00:35:52,819 --> 00:35:55,388 I guess that's that. 936 00:35:55,455 --> 00:35:57,257 Good‐bye. ‐ Bye. 937 00:35:57,323 --> 00:35:58,491 ‐ Good luck, girl. 938 00:35:58,559 --> 00:35:59,492 ‐ Thank you. 939 00:36:02,202 --> 00:36:03,537 ‐ Any good‐bye? 940 00:36:03,604 --> 00:36:06,740 ‐ [sighs] Nope. 941 00:36:06,807 --> 00:36:08,108 I'm cold. I'm ready to leave. 942 00:36:08,174 --> 00:36:09,876 We need to go. ‐ All right. Bye. 943 00:36:09,943 --> 00:36:11,745 ‐ Ready to go home to my baby. 944 00:36:11,812 --> 00:36:13,780 ‐ You ain't [bleep]. 945 00:36:13,847 --> 00:36:16,416 ‐ Come on. ‐ You're not. 946 00:36:16,482 --> 00:36:18,719 You better go back there and give Akirra 947 00:36:18,785 --> 00:36:20,320 the biggest hug in the world. 948 00:36:20,386 --> 00:36:22,022 ‐ Man, I am‐‐ ‐ Get your ass in the car. 949 00:36:22,088 --> 00:36:25,559 ‐ ♪♪ Should I brace myself? ♪♪ 950 00:36:25,626 --> 00:36:27,561 ♪♪ ♪♪ 951 00:36:27,628 --> 00:36:30,931 ‐ [bleep]. Thank God. Oh! 952 00:36:34,568 --> 00:36:37,237 ‐ All right. Well, you've gotta go clean up 953 00:36:37,303 --> 00:36:40,306 this mess you made with Akirra. ‐ She's [bleep] mad. 954 00:36:40,373 --> 00:36:42,909 I understand I was wrong in some ways, you know, 955 00:36:42,976 --> 00:36:45,111 but all I wanna do is just move on 956 00:36:45,178 --> 00:36:47,313 with my life with Akirra. 957 00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:48,348 [sighs] 958 00:36:48,414 --> 00:36:50,984 ♪♪ ♪♪ 959 00:36:53,754 --> 00:36:56,322 [melancholy music] 960 00:36:56,389 --> 00:36:59,392 ♪♪ ♪♪ 961 00:37:08,074 --> 00:37:09,142 ‐ You crying? ‐ Yeah. 962 00:37:09,208 --> 00:37:10,677 ‐ What happened? 963 00:37:10,744 --> 00:37:11,978 ‐ He's just thinking about Akirra. 964 00:37:12,045 --> 00:37:14,981 He wants everything to go well. 965 00:37:15,048 --> 00:37:16,750 ‐ You all right, man? 966 00:37:16,816 --> 00:37:19,252 ‐ It's gonna be fine, but you have to be vulnerable. 967 00:37:21,154 --> 00:37:22,989 ‐ Hello. 968 00:37:23,056 --> 00:37:24,691 ‐ Come in. ‐ Okay. 969 00:37:26,392 --> 00:37:27,928 ‐ Hey, Akirra. 970 00:37:36,169 --> 00:37:38,071 ‐ I wanna tell you that, um, 971 00:37:38,138 --> 00:37:40,040 you ain't got nothing to worry about. 972 00:37:40,106 --> 00:37:43,176 And that I‐‐I wanna be with you. 973 00:37:43,243 --> 00:37:44,344 You're who I wanna be with. 974 00:37:44,410 --> 00:37:45,912 I really do love you. 975 00:37:45,979 --> 00:37:50,851 And, like, the thing with Jamie is, like, done. 976 00:37:50,917 --> 00:37:52,819 It's finished. 977 00:37:52,886 --> 00:37:54,855 I'm sorry. 978 00:37:58,124 --> 00:38:00,894 I wish you would talk to me. 979 00:38:00,961 --> 00:38:02,435 ‐ I just feel like there's a lot of stuff 980 00:38:02,503 --> 00:38:05,038 that's been hidden 981 00:38:05,105 --> 00:38:06,640 between you and her. 982 00:38:06,707 --> 00:38:09,475 ‐ There's nothing going on between me and her. 983 00:38:09,543 --> 00:38:12,078 Like, I told her that I don't want‐‐ 984 00:38:12,145 --> 00:38:13,547 nothing to do with you. 985 00:38:13,614 --> 00:38:15,248 I told her‐‐ ‐ I mean, I don't even care 986 00:38:15,315 --> 00:38:17,818 about the details, or whatever. 987 00:38:20,887 --> 00:38:23,557 ‐ I told her that you're who I wanna be with 988 00:38:23,624 --> 00:38:27,327 and move my‐‐ move forward my life with. 989 00:38:27,393 --> 00:38:28,762 ‐ I don't know what really happened, 990 00:38:28,829 --> 00:38:30,631 so I don't know what you said, she said, 991 00:38:30,697 --> 00:38:32,633 or whatever the case may be, or‐‐ 992 00:38:32,699 --> 00:38:35,636 ‐ Well, we were there. We met her. 993 00:38:35,702 --> 00:38:38,104 It was the girl that we had all seen 994 00:38:38,171 --> 00:38:39,840 in that Facebook photo. 995 00:38:39,906 --> 00:38:43,510 She still has feelings for him, 996 00:38:43,577 --> 00:38:45,345 so William made it very clear 997 00:38:45,411 --> 00:38:47,280 that they can't even be friends, 998 00:38:47,347 --> 00:38:49,149 because he's with you, and there's no way 999 00:38:49,215 --> 00:38:52,919 to be friends with someone if they have feelings for you. 1000 00:38:52,986 --> 00:38:57,023 He did say and do all the right things today. 1001 00:38:57,090 --> 00:38:58,925 ‐ Okay. 1002 00:38:58,992 --> 00:39:01,201 ‐ And we asked her about the messages that you were getting, 1003 00:39:01,267 --> 00:39:03,036 and the other accounts, 1004 00:39:03,103 --> 00:39:06,573 and it seems like that's finished. 1005 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,676 Look, there's no way to know if Jamie is gonna try 1006 00:39:09,743 --> 00:39:11,244 to keep reaching out to either of you, 1007 00:39:11,311 --> 00:39:13,479 but if either of you hear from her, 1008 00:39:13,547 --> 00:39:15,949 just be honest with each other about it. 1009 00:39:16,016 --> 00:39:17,784 ‐ And honesty was a big issue. ‐ Because the worst thing 1010 00:39:17,851 --> 00:39:19,452 that would happen would be if you didn't tell her that. 1011 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,855 So just be... 1012 00:39:21,922 --> 00:39:24,057 ‐ Yeah, be honest. ‐ Open about it. 1013 00:39:24,124 --> 00:39:26,459 ‐ Don't just tell her what you think she wants to hear. 1014 00:39:26,527 --> 00:39:29,495 Anything covered in bull[bleep] is not gonna fly. 1015 00:39:29,563 --> 00:39:32,899 Just makes for better communication. 1016 00:39:32,966 --> 00:39:35,802 ‐ I do wanna 1017 00:39:35,869 --> 00:39:39,506 like, spend the rest of my life with you, for real. 1018 00:39:39,573 --> 00:39:42,108 Um, I really do love you. 1019 00:39:42,175 --> 00:39:44,244 I really do care about you. 1020 00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:46,246 And I want you to see that, 1021 00:39:46,312 --> 00:39:48,014 and know that. 1022 00:39:48,081 --> 00:39:50,517 And I understand you're upset and everything like that, 1023 00:39:50,584 --> 00:39:52,986 but I'm sorry for not being 1024 00:39:53,053 --> 00:39:56,590 completely honest with you. 1025 00:40:01,501 --> 00:40:04,771 [lively music] 1026 00:40:04,838 --> 00:40:05,972 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1027 00:40:07,273 --> 00:40:08,575 ‐ Where's the‐‐ ‐ Oh! 1028 00:40:08,642 --> 00:40:10,611 ‐ Hello. Hey. ‐ Oh, my goodness. 1029 00:40:10,677 --> 00:40:13,413 So you guys are still good. 1030 00:40:13,479 --> 00:40:16,382 ‐ Yeah. ‐ What's going on with you two? 1031 00:40:16,449 --> 00:40:18,018 ‐ We progressed from 1032 00:40:18,084 --> 00:40:19,653 when you guys helped us out. ‐ It's only up. 1033 00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:21,855 We're going up and up. 1034 00:40:21,922 --> 00:40:24,224 ‐ We made it to our four‐month anniversary 1035 00:40:24,290 --> 00:40:26,126 and we've been stronger. 1036 00:40:26,192 --> 00:40:30,163 So everything has been only going up from everything. 1037 00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:34,134 ‐ How do you feel now towards William in terms of trust? 1038 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,869 We've gotten closer and we're, 1039 00:40:35,936 --> 00:40:38,672 like, encouraged to go on with our relationship 1040 00:40:38,739 --> 00:40:40,807 and do what we have to do to move forward. 1041 00:40:40,874 --> 00:40:42,609 I think we're better as a person, you know, 1042 00:40:42,676 --> 00:40:44,845 to be able to work with him as a team. 1043 00:40:44,911 --> 00:40:46,813 ‐ Good; well, don't break that trust, William. 1044 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,482 You have to stay on good behavior. 1045 00:40:49,550 --> 00:40:50,851 ‐ I got you. ‐ Try not to‐‐ 1046 00:40:50,917 --> 00:40:53,319 yeah, stay out of trouble. ‐ Okay, will do. 1047 00:40:53,386 --> 00:40:54,821 ‐ We'll keep in touch. ‐ See you. 1048 00:40:54,888 --> 00:40:56,156 ‐ Bye. ‐ All right, bye. 1049 00:40:56,222 --> 00:40:57,323 Appreciate y'all. 1050 00:41:07,941 --> 00:41:09,475 ‐ Danielle has been in contact with BJ for six years. 1051 00:41:09,543 --> 00:41:11,678 ‐ I was shot multiple times. 1052 00:41:11,745 --> 00:41:13,580 BJ was there for me. 1053 00:41:13,647 --> 00:41:16,316 He's keeping a huge secret. 1054 00:41:16,382 --> 00:41:18,652 ‐ "I know who Danielle is really talking to." 1055 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,820 ‐ Whoa. 1056 00:41:19,886 --> 00:41:21,087 There are two people coming. 1057 00:41:21,154 --> 00:41:22,455 Is that them? 1058 00:41:22,523 --> 00:41:24,157 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. ‐ What's going on?