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‐ Akirra's boyfriend, William,
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needs to discover the truth
about who Jamie is.
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‐ We've been talking
for around two years.
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‐ Did you love her?
‐ Yeah, I loved her.
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‐ This is your
transaction history.
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Are you [bleep] kidding me?
This is a lot of money.
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Does Akirra know about that?
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‐ Akirra's upset.
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‐ Bro, just get out of
my [bleep] face; just go.
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‐ I think I see her.
Jamie?
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‐ Oh, my [bleep] God.
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[dramatic music]
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‐ "I need your help."
"Help."
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For almost a decade,
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"Catfish" has brought
desperate hopefuls
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the answers they deserve.
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‐ Thank you guys so much
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for bringing us together.
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‐ This time around, though,
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we flipped the script.
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Now I'm heading out
with my cohost, Kamie.
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‐ Who's ready to go fishing?
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‐ We're helping people
who need us the most.
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Let's do it.
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Only they have no idea.
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‐ She doesn't know
I reached out to you guys.
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‐ Oh, my goodness.
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‐ This season, we're being
tipped off by friends...
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‐ I care about him a lot.
‐ Family...
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‐ My brother's really
in love with her.
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‐ And even anonymous sources.
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Whoa.
‐ What?
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‐ This is from
the whistle‐blower.
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Ride‐or‐dies
who will not sit back
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while their loved ones
get played.
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‐ ♪♪ Come on
and catch me now ♪♪
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‐ Why can't we meet?
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‐ Homey is getting played.
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So many layers.
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‐ 'Cause even when
you don't know it...
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Chill, chill, chill.
‐ [bleep] him, man.
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‐ Take a second.
‐ [exhales]
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‐ "Catfish" has your back.
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[dramatic musical sting]
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‐ All right, there she is.
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‐ Oh, no.
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‐ Can't lay like that.
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‐ I'm watching TV.
‐ I think that's weird.
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‐ How do you watch TV?
‐ If you're gonna be on a bed,
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then you go like this.
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‐ How am I supposed to see it
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when I don't have my
glasses on?
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‐ First of all,
when did you become
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an 80‐year‐old Southern woman?
‐ Yesterday.
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[laughter]
‐ "I don't have my glasses on!"
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‐ Anyway, if you're finished
watching "Hoarders,"
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I thought we'd do something
a little different today.
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Instead of reading the email
from the computer,
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I could read it right here
on my phone.
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‐ Why not?
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‐ All right,
this one is from Akirra.
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The subject is "A Catfish
is Ruining My Relationship."
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"Hey, Nev and Kamie,
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"Things are getting
out of hand.
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And I realized you're the only
ones who can help."
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‐ Probably.
‐ "My boyfriend William and I
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"have been dating
for the past three months.
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"We're completely in love.
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"But recently,
a girl named Jamie
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"has been blowing up his phone
constantly.
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"When I asked William about it,
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"he said he and Jamie
used to date online
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"but out of respect for me,
William blocked her.
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"But she's been messaging him
from other profiles.
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"Can't get over him,
and is doing anything she can
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"to stay in touch.
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"With all this going on,
I decided to look into her.
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"William believes
she's some sort of
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"social media influencer,
because she has a ton
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of followers..."
‐ Oh, God, no.
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"But I saw her Twitter,
and it looked shady.
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"It's clear to me
she isn't just a stalker ex.
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"She's a catfish.
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"And it's gotten even worse.
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"I'm getting weird messages
from fake accounts,
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"and they're freaking me out
and pissing me off.
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"Jamie even told William
that he better watch out,
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because she knows his address."
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‐ ♪♪ Only your evil
will cut us down ♪♪
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"I love William,
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"but I don't know
what to do anymore.
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"She's going to ruin
our relationship
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"if we don't get her
out of our lives.
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Thanks in advance,
Akirra."
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‐ It sounds like William
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is not doing a very good job
at keeping his ex at bay.
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‐ She's infiltrating.
‐ Well, he tried to block her.
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This girl is, like,
really butting her nose
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in their business.
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‐ Watch out?
‐ Right.
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‐ I'm gonna show up
at your house?
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She's a stalker.
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‐ I'm nervous now.
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All right, let's go.
Let's see if we can get Akirra
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on Skype and find out a little
more about what's going on.
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[Skype tone ringing]
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Hello!
‐ Hey!
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‐ What's up?
‐ How you guys doing?
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‐ How are you?
‐ It's going good.
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‐ Where are you from?
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‐ I'm from King George,
Virginia.
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‐ Hey, DMV.
I'm from Maryland.
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‐ From Maryland?
‐ Yeah.
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‐ How old are you, Akirra?
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‐ I'm 19.
‐ And how old is William?
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‐ William is 21.
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He's the perfect guy.
I love him a lot.
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‐ What's so great
about William?
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‐ Everything,
like his laugh,
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his personality, and the way
that he carries himself.
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Like, we're really, really
in love.
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But I was hoping you guys
could help me out because
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I didn't know he was dating
a girl online
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before him and I met.
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And now, since she knows
that him and I are together,
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and we're trying to progress,
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it makes her angry.
‐ Wow.
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‐ I had a hundred different
Instagrams messaging me like,
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"Your boyfriend is a cheater.
He's not loyal to you."
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And like...
‐ My God.
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‐ And she'll try to use
my Instagram username
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and sign in my account
and hit "Forgot Password"
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so I'll get a hundred
notifications of like,
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"Oh, we're sorry that you
can't get into your Instagram.
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Maybe we can help you."
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‐ Oh, my God.
‐ Oh, that would piss me off
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like nothing else.
‐ This is a problem.
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Like‐‐this is a‐‐
‐ Yeah.
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‐ Now our relationship
is on the line.
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She's in the way.
She has to go.
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‐ Okay, he's not still
interested in having
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any kind of communication
or friendship
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or anything with her, is he?
‐ Um, see, I don't know.
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I found them communicating
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still after he had said
he blocked her.
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‐ What?
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‐ Where were they talking?
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‐ They were talking on Paypal.
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‐ Is that because
he sends her money?
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‐ No. She sends him money.
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‐ Oh. Well, no wonder
he doesn't want to let go.
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‐ William has a sugar mama.
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‐ Wow.
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Does he know you
wrote in to us?
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‐ He knows that I wrote
in to you guys,
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but he's not, like, excited
with the fact that I did.
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He's here, if you guys
want to talk to him.
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‐ Yeah.
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[footsteps]
[knocking on door]
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‐ William.
‐ Open up.
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‐ I'm on the phone
with "Catfish"
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and they want to talk to you.
‐ Oh, man.
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‐ [laughs]
‐ Get out here, Will.
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‐ I can't believe
that you did this.
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‐ [laughs]
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‐ This is‐‐
‐ Oh, man.
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‐ We've been hearing a little
about this crazy story.
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‐ She's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs,
need a restraining order.
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‐ No‐‐
‐ Catfish.
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‐ [laughs]
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‐ I don't believe
she's a catfish
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because of what she's doing.
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Sending me money,
helping me out.
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‐ Over the last two years,
how much money
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do you think she's sent you?
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‐ Thousands.
‐ Thousands.
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What?
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‐ Ain't feel good.
‐ Wow.
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‐ You weren't sending anything
in exchange for this money,
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because that's a different
kind of business.
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‐ Dick pics.
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‐ [giggles]
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‐ The most important thing here
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is that you guys are happy,
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and this girl's doing a lot
to sort of mess that up.
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‐ She's jealous.
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‐ I feel like this girl's
jeopardizing our relationship,
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‐ Right.
‐ So that's what makes me
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interested in finding out,
because I wanna know.
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‐ We gotta help you guys.
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All right, so we'll meet
you guys in Virginia.
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‐ DC.
‐ We're in DC now.
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‐ Oh, you're‐‐
okay, you're in DC now.
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‐ DMV area.
‐ DMV, yeah.
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‐ We'll see you guys soon.
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‐ Bye.
both: Bye.
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‐ Wow.
‐ I think William
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wants a sugar mama.
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‐ Money talks.
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‐ The good news is
we're going to Maryland.
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Yay!
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[upbeat music]
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♪♪ ♪♪
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‐ All right, Maryland.
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‐ Maryland.
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‐ I like Akirra.
‐ I like Akirra.
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‐ She's funny.
‐ She's with it.
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‐ And she's keeping
him in check.
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‐ All right, we're here.
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‐ Hey.
‐ Hey, how you doing?
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‐ Good, how are you?
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‐ I'm doing good.
Nice to meet you.
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‐ Nice to meet you, too.
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I'm Kamie.
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‐ What's up?
‐ How you doing?
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‐ Oh, good.
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‐ Could we all step in?
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‐ Yeah, you don't have a coat.
Let's go. [bleep].
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Thank you.
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‐ Wait, where's
your girlfriend?
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I don't really wanna talk
to you that much.
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[laughter]
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‐ We're here for Akirra.
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‐ So let's get the story.
‐ Spill the tea.
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‐ So me and Jamie,
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we were talking for,
like, around two years.
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She hit me up on Twitter.
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Guess I liked her tweet,
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and then that's when
she inboxed me.
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She told me her name
is Jamie Gonzalez.
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She retweets things for promos,
like money‐‐
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‐ So it's like,
if you pay me $5,
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I'll post your picture
on my page.
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‐ Yes.
‐ Like that.
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Because she has a lot
of followers.
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‐ Yeah. I wanted
to get to know who she was.
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That's when I started
texting her,
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talking to her on the phone.
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‐ How often were
you guys talking?
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‐ Every day.
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She's a cool person.
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She's caring, thoughtful,
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she ain't a judgey person.
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She had me hooked.
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‐ Ooh.
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Did you love her?
‐ Yeah, I loved her.
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I cared about her.
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At the time...
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I told her I need help
money‐wise.
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That's when she was, like,
giving me money.
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But when she was doing
the promo stuff
252
00:08:58,659 --> 00:08:59,660
and things like that...
‐ Right.
253
00:08:59,726 --> 00:09:01,201
‐ Her Paypal got suspended.
254
00:09:03,637 --> 00:09:05,338
‐ Oh, wait a second.
‐ Oh.
255
00:09:05,405 --> 00:09:08,975
‐ So people send her money
to help promote stuff,
256
00:09:09,042 --> 00:09:10,611
and then you're just
getting random...
257
00:09:10,677 --> 00:09:11,778
‐ Random money, like,
every day‐‐
258
00:09:11,845 --> 00:09:13,580
‐ Money from different
accounts.
259
00:09:13,647 --> 00:09:15,582
‐ Yeah, some random person.
260
00:09:15,649 --> 00:09:17,651
‐ Was there ever a conversation
where she was, like,
261
00:09:17,718 --> 00:09:19,920
"Can you accept this
and then pay me?"
262
00:09:19,986 --> 00:09:21,387
Or was it just like,
"Oh, you know what,
263
00:09:21,454 --> 00:09:22,756
you just take it."
264
00:09:22,823 --> 00:09:24,290
Like, you never had
an agreement.
265
00:09:28,428 --> 00:09:30,196
‐ She supposedly was supposed
to sell her house
266
00:09:30,263 --> 00:09:31,765
out in New York
267
00:09:31,832 --> 00:09:34,601
to come live down here,
with me, for me.
268
00:09:34,668 --> 00:09:36,336
But she kept making excuses.
269
00:09:36,402 --> 00:09:37,804
I was getting tired
and frustrated with that,
270
00:09:37,871 --> 00:09:39,239
so I moved on.
271
00:09:39,305 --> 00:09:42,275
I told her, like, I can't
keep on doing this no more.
272
00:09:43,644 --> 00:09:45,078
‐ I mean, this is weird.
273
00:09:45,145 --> 00:09:47,313
‐ [laughs]
‐ I know; I know it's crazy.
274
00:09:47,380 --> 00:09:49,916
‐ This is maybe the weirdest
[bleep] that I've ever heard.
275
00:09:49,983 --> 00:09:53,286
Some random girl who says
she's in New York
276
00:09:53,353 --> 00:09:56,289
tells all her clients
to pay you on Paypal
277
00:09:56,356 --> 00:09:58,892
for the social media work
she's doing?
278
00:09:58,959 --> 00:09:59,893
‐ Oh, [bleep], God!
‐ Oh.
279
00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:01,034
‐ Hello, hi.
‐ Hey.
280
00:10:01,101 --> 00:10:02,569
‐ What did I miss?
Sorry.
281
00:10:02,636 --> 00:10:04,705
‐ You scared me!
‐ You made it. What's up?
282
00:10:04,771 --> 00:10:07,440
‐ Nice to meet you.
‐ Hello.
283
00:10:07,508 --> 00:10:09,042
‐ So, what did I miss, guys?
284
00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:11,277
‐ The biggest thing
that kinda we cleared up
285
00:10:11,344 --> 00:10:12,913
was this money thing.
286
00:10:12,979 --> 00:10:14,881
‐ It's crazy. You know,
you wouldn't be, like,
287
00:10:14,948 --> 00:10:16,650
expecting someone to do that.
288
00:10:16,717 --> 00:10:18,184
Like, it's weird,
and it's strange.
289
00:10:18,251 --> 00:10:20,420
‐ How many different accounts,
do you think,
290
00:10:20,486 --> 00:10:21,421
have sent you money?
291
00:10:21,487 --> 00:10:23,156
‐ Man, more than 50.
292
00:10:23,223 --> 00:10:24,891
‐ You have your Paypal
transaction history.
293
00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:27,293
We can look at it, right?
I'd like to see that.
294
00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,895
Wow. Oh, my God.
295
00:10:28,962 --> 00:10:30,430
‐ Look at all those scrolls
you're doing.
296
00:10:30,496 --> 00:10:32,065
‐ [laughs]
‐ You're gonna break his thumb.
297
00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:33,767
Holy [bleep].
298
00:10:33,834 --> 00:10:35,468
‐ He doesn't believe
this is a catfish.
299
00:10:35,536 --> 00:10:37,571
‐ Okay, so wait a second. So...
‐ There we go.
300
00:10:37,638 --> 00:10:40,306
‐ Jamie Aronofsky, $90.
301
00:10:40,373 --> 00:10:42,008
‐ I thought her last name
was Gonzalez.
302
00:10:42,075 --> 00:10:42,976
‐ Right.
303
00:10:43,043 --> 00:10:45,211
‐ Is she Buttercup Gonzalez?
304
00:10:45,278 --> 00:10:47,013
‐ Yeah, that's what she was
calling herself.
305
00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,349
That's how I met her.
‐ Wait, so she sent you $90
306
00:10:49,415 --> 00:10:50,684
a lot of times.
307
00:10:50,751 --> 00:10:53,053
‐ Keep adding up.
‐ Jesus, $60.
308
00:10:53,119 --> 00:10:56,022
$100!
$50, $70, $40.
309
00:10:56,089 --> 00:10:57,758
Are you [bleep] kidding me?
310
00:10:57,824 --> 00:10:59,025
Don't break up with this girl.
311
00:10:59,092 --> 00:11:02,135
[laughter]
312
00:11:02,202 --> 00:11:04,104
This is the best thing
you've got going.
313
00:11:04,170 --> 00:11:05,739
‐ Thank you.
‐ For reals.
314
00:11:05,806 --> 00:11:07,608
‐ Akirra, get outta here!
315
00:11:07,674 --> 00:11:09,075
[laughter]
316
00:11:09,142 --> 00:11:10,644
Why are you messing this up?
317
00:11:10,711 --> 00:11:14,848
‐ Thank you. Thank you!
[laughter]
318
00:11:14,915 --> 00:11:16,550
‐ Oh, my God.
319
00:11:16,617 --> 00:11:19,285
This is a lot of money, man.
320
00:11:19,352 --> 00:11:21,254
Jeez, we're still in May.
321
00:11:21,321 --> 00:11:25,726
Dawnee, 5 bucks. Jeju, 5
bucks. Sarah, 5 bucks.
322
00:11:25,792 --> 00:11:29,062
There's a lot of these.
Holy [bleep].
323
00:11:29,129 --> 00:11:32,232
You have a $15 pending payment.
‐ He doesn't care,
324
00:11:32,298 --> 00:11:34,267
he's getting money every day.
‐ He doesn't even care.
325
00:11:34,334 --> 00:11:36,036
This is crazy.
326
00:11:36,102 --> 00:11:38,905
‐ In Paypal messages,
it says I owe 5K.
327
00:11:38,972 --> 00:11:41,474
‐ Oh, she requested $5,000.
328
00:11:41,542 --> 00:11:43,109
‐ That was around the time
when I actually
329
00:11:43,176 --> 00:11:44,545
broke it off with her.
Yeah, because she‐‐
330
00:11:44,611 --> 00:11:45,812
‐ She said,
"Pay back my money
331
00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:47,313
or it's a be a problem."
332
00:11:47,380 --> 00:11:49,049
‐ That's when Akirra told me
to block her
333
00:11:49,115 --> 00:11:50,917
on Instagram and Twitter.
334
00:11:50,984 --> 00:11:52,819
That's when she contacted me
on Paypal.
335
00:11:52,886 --> 00:11:55,822
‐ "I helped you over two years,
336
00:11:55,889 --> 00:11:56,990
and this is what
you do to me?"
337
00:11:57,057 --> 00:11:58,692
She sends you a request for
338
00:11:58,759 --> 00:12:00,834
$6.5 million?
339
00:12:00,901 --> 00:12:04,304
‐ [laughs]
340
00:12:04,370 --> 00:12:05,739
‐ And then said,
341
00:12:05,806 --> 00:12:07,473
"Don't keep [bleep]
playing with me!"
342
00:12:07,541 --> 00:12:09,810
‐ That's when the messages
started rolling to me
343
00:12:09,876 --> 00:12:11,277
with the disrespect.
‐ Right.
344
00:12:11,344 --> 00:12:12,979
‐ And she's, like,
"Your man's a cheater.
345
00:12:13,046 --> 00:12:14,314
You need to check him."
If you guys wanna see it,
346
00:12:14,380 --> 00:12:15,749
we could take a look.
‐ Sure.
347
00:12:15,816 --> 00:12:17,718
Here, Kamie, switch with me.
348
00:12:17,784 --> 00:12:19,019
‐ All right.
‐ Now I see it.
349
00:12:19,085 --> 00:12:20,554
‐ There's a whole bunch
of them.
350
00:12:20,621 --> 00:12:22,322
‐ Okay, so she said...
351
00:12:28,394 --> 00:12:31,097
So this is clearly Jamie.
‐ Yeah.
352
00:12:31,164 --> 00:12:33,099
‐ But from a different account.
353
00:12:35,368 --> 00:12:37,904
‐ Sounds like something
a guy would say.
354
00:12:37,971 --> 00:12:39,439
‐ I know it ain't a man
for sure.
355
00:12:39,506 --> 00:12:41,307
We can bet on that.
356
00:12:44,711 --> 00:12:46,012
‐ You gotta
take this seriously.
357
00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:48,749
Like, you got to be very
cautious here.
358
00:12:48,815 --> 00:12:50,183
I mean you could say,
"Oh, my God,
359
00:12:50,250 --> 00:12:52,853
this guy hacked my Paypal.
360
00:12:52,919 --> 00:12:53,854
"He's been stealing
all my money,
361
00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,956
go [bleep] him up."
362
00:12:56,022 --> 00:12:58,024
You don't know.
363
00:12:58,091 --> 00:13:00,794
All right, well, let's just see
if we can figure it out.
364
00:13:00,861 --> 00:13:03,403
‐ Send us all the stuff.
‐ Okay.
365
00:13:03,469 --> 00:13:06,607
‐ What kind of rabbit hole
y'all got us going down?
366
00:13:06,673 --> 00:13:09,676
‐ Good to see you guys.
‐ See you tomorrow.
367
00:13:09,743 --> 00:13:11,377
Bye.
368
00:13:11,444 --> 00:13:13,113
Man, oh man.
369
00:13:13,179 --> 00:13:16,750
‐ This might be one of the
crazier catfish stories
370
00:13:16,817 --> 00:13:18,251
we've ever had.
371
00:13:18,318 --> 00:13:19,953
‐ I don't even know
where to begin.
372
00:13:20,020 --> 00:13:22,122
‐ I mean,
Akirra is on top of it.
373
00:13:22,188 --> 00:13:24,224
‐ Oh, yeah.
Because she's not living
374
00:13:24,290 --> 00:13:26,793
in the fantasy land
that William's living in.
375
00:13:26,860 --> 00:13:28,394
‐ He's in serious denial.
376
00:13:32,232 --> 00:13:33,199
‐ You ready?
377
00:13:33,266 --> 00:13:35,201
‐ I'm ready.
378
00:13:35,268 --> 00:13:36,136
‐ Okay.
379
00:13:36,202 --> 00:13:39,039
William meets Jamie online,
380
00:13:39,105 --> 00:13:41,675
they become friends.
381
00:13:41,742 --> 00:13:44,077
She starts sending him money.
382
00:13:44,144 --> 00:13:45,879
I mean, it's weird.
‐ Yeah.
383
00:13:45,946 --> 00:13:47,981
‐ But she was very generous,
and just said, like,
384
00:13:48,048 --> 00:13:48,982
"Oh, let me help you,
let me help you,
385
00:13:49,049 --> 00:13:51,084
let me help you."
‐ Mm‐hmm.
386
00:13:51,151 --> 00:13:55,021
‐ Eventually, they become
kind of an item.
387
00:13:55,088 --> 00:13:56,957
Try to meet up,
never happens.
388
00:13:57,023 --> 00:13:59,492
After almost two years,
finally William decides, like,
389
00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:01,301
"If I'm never gonna meet you,
390
00:14:01,367 --> 00:14:02,803
I gotta start dating
someone else."
391
00:14:02,869 --> 00:14:03,970
‐ Mm‐hmm.
392
00:14:04,037 --> 00:14:06,172
‐ William meets Akirra.
393
00:14:06,239 --> 00:14:08,474
They start dating.
Immediately, Jamie freaks out,
394
00:14:08,542 --> 00:14:11,177
starts suggesting
that he should pay her back,
395
00:14:11,244 --> 00:14:14,214
and harassing him.
Then she starts
396
00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,950
bothering and harassing Akirra.
‐ Mm‐hmm.
397
00:14:17,017 --> 00:14:19,019
‐ Messaging her from
lots of weird accounts.
398
00:14:19,085 --> 00:14:21,154
‐ Scary.
399
00:14:21,221 --> 00:14:22,756
‐ All right, let's get into it.
400
00:14:22,823 --> 00:14:24,090
We got an email.
401
00:14:24,157 --> 00:14:25,158
"Hey guys, thanks for helping.
402
00:14:25,225 --> 00:14:26,693
"Her name is Jamie Gonzalez.
403
00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,494
"She's 22 and lives
in New York.
404
00:14:28,562 --> 00:14:29,896
"Here's her number.
405
00:14:29,963 --> 00:14:33,800
"Here's her Instagram,
@eyebuttersyrup.
406
00:14:33,867 --> 00:14:35,902
"Here's her Twitter account."
‐ Okay.
407
00:14:35,969 --> 00:14:37,671
‐ "Here's my Paypal login."
Ooh.
408
00:14:37,738 --> 00:14:39,205
‐ Yes, we need it.
‐ Great.
409
00:14:39,272 --> 00:14:42,008
And here are some photos
that he attached.
410
00:14:42,075 --> 00:14:44,811
Let's just start
with the pictures.
411
00:14:44,878 --> 00:14:46,913
Yeah, here we go.
412
00:14:48,782 --> 00:14:50,851
No, no.
No direct hit on that one.
413
00:14:50,917 --> 00:14:54,220
Let's try the second one.
414
00:14:54,287 --> 00:14:55,689
Nope, no hit.
415
00:14:55,756 --> 00:14:57,023
Try this next picture.
416
00:14:57,090 --> 00:14:59,693
Just need one hit.
417
00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,201
Okay, no.
418
00:15:01,267 --> 00:15:02,669
‐ Damn.
‐ Let's see what happens
419
00:15:02,736 --> 00:15:06,406
if we go to her Instagram.
420
00:15:06,472 --> 00:15:09,309
Well, here's her account.
24,000 followers,
421
00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:10,977
but no posts?
422
00:15:11,044 --> 00:15:12,513
‐ Right.
‐ What?
423
00:15:12,579 --> 00:15:14,280
This photo is not even close
to the same girl.
424
00:15:14,347 --> 00:15:16,950
‐ Right. So what is she,
just buying followers?
425
00:15:17,017 --> 00:15:19,219
‐ Probably.
You can buy followers
426
00:15:19,285 --> 00:15:21,922
on any website.
‐ Who's she following?
427
00:15:21,988 --> 00:15:24,324
Is that William?
428
00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:25,859
‐ @willgetpaiddd?
Yeah, we know.
429
00:15:25,926 --> 00:15:27,694
both: That's him.
‐ [laughs]
430
00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:29,663
‐ That's pretty funny.
431
00:15:29,730 --> 00:15:31,765
‐ Oh, my God.
432
00:15:31,832 --> 00:15:32,933
‐ Let's see if we can
find anything
433
00:15:32,999 --> 00:15:35,802
on her Twitter account.
434
00:15:35,869 --> 00:15:38,038
Wow, 70,000 followers.
435
00:15:38,104 --> 00:15:39,806
Yeah, I guess she just
sort of...
436
00:15:39,873 --> 00:15:41,908
‐ Posts travel stuff.
437
00:15:41,975 --> 00:15:43,243
You're buying‐‐
‐ Right.
438
00:15:43,309 --> 00:15:45,946
‐ This is, like,
clearly bought followers.
439
00:15:46,012 --> 00:15:48,048
‐ Right.
So weird.
440
00:15:48,114 --> 00:15:50,851
The only thing left now
is her phone number.
441
00:15:50,917 --> 00:15:56,990
Let's do a little phone search
here on this phone number.
442
00:15:57,858 --> 00:15:59,292
Steven Aronofsky.
443
00:15:59,359 --> 00:16:01,768
Didn't we see
"Aronofsky" somewhere?
444
00:16:01,835 --> 00:16:03,570
‐ Paypal.
‐ Yes!
445
00:16:03,637 --> 00:16:05,438
‐ The Paypal, the original
Paypal transaction.
446
00:16:05,506 --> 00:16:06,773
‐ That's where we saw it.
‐ Yeah.
447
00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,775
‐ Yes, it was.
Let's look.
448
00:16:08,842 --> 00:16:10,877
Here's William's
Paypal account.
449
00:16:10,944 --> 00:16:13,046
Let's go to Activity.
450
00:16:14,748 --> 00:16:16,683
Look, Jamie Aronofsky.
451
00:16:16,750 --> 00:16:17,851
‐ Wow.
452
00:16:17,918 --> 00:16:19,686
I think that's her name.
453
00:16:19,753 --> 00:16:21,354
‐ Right.
454
00:16:21,421 --> 00:16:24,725
God, there's a lot.
These are all on one day.
455
00:16:24,791 --> 00:16:27,360
Every day, dozens.
456
00:16:27,427 --> 00:16:29,796
And the whole thing to me
just doesn't make any sense.
457
00:16:29,863 --> 00:16:33,466
Why would some impersonator
just willfully start sending
458
00:16:33,534 --> 00:16:35,135
thousands of dollars?
459
00:16:35,201 --> 00:16:37,504
To some guy they don't
ever plan on even meeting?
460
00:16:37,571 --> 00:16:39,105
‐ When he was telling
the story,
461
00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:41,241
it felt like something
was missing.
462
00:16:41,307 --> 00:16:42,909
‐ Yeah.
463
00:16:42,976 --> 00:16:44,611
Anyway, all right.
The fact that the phone number
464
00:16:44,678 --> 00:16:47,313
goes to a Steven Aronofsky
and the original transaction
465
00:16:47,380 --> 00:16:49,482
was from a Jamie Aronofsky,
466
00:16:49,550 --> 00:16:51,451
pretty much suggests
that her last name
467
00:16:51,518 --> 00:16:54,054
is probably Aronofsky.
‐ Mm‐hmm.
468
00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,223
‐ Steven Aronofsky.
Either that's her dad,
469
00:16:57,290 --> 00:16:59,926
or she is daddy,
if you know what I'm saying.
470
00:16:59,993 --> 00:17:01,467
‐ My God.
‐ All right, let's just see
471
00:17:01,535 --> 00:17:03,469
what other sites
come back with.
472
00:17:03,537 --> 00:17:05,338
'Cause sometimes
you get different stuff
473
00:17:05,405 --> 00:17:08,709
on different sites
for phone numbers.
474
00:17:10,010 --> 00:17:12,746
Jamie Aronofsky.
475
00:17:12,813 --> 00:17:15,982
All right, let's view details.
476
00:17:16,049 --> 00:17:19,019
‐ Born November, 1993, age 25.
‐ Wow.
477
00:17:19,085 --> 00:17:23,089
And here's an address.
Medford, New York.
478
00:17:23,156 --> 00:17:25,959
May also be known as
Jamie L. Aronofsky.
479
00:17:26,026 --> 00:17:29,863
Oh, a picture?
‐ [gasps]
480
00:17:30,564 --> 00:17:33,499
‐ Who's that?
It's got a Jamie nametag.
481
00:17:33,567 --> 00:17:37,470
Two social networks connected.
[gasps]
482
00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,442
‐ Jamie A.
[gasps]
483
00:17:42,509 --> 00:17:44,077
This is her.
‐ Guess this is her.
484
00:17:44,144 --> 00:17:45,445
'Cause the phone number
485
00:17:45,512 --> 00:17:47,681
traces to her,
her name is Jamie A.
486
00:17:47,748 --> 00:17:49,349
We have an address.
487
00:17:49,415 --> 00:17:52,118
Based on the fact that
her Paypal name
488
00:17:52,185 --> 00:17:54,320
in the beginning
was Jamie Aronofsky,
489
00:17:54,387 --> 00:17:55,856
phone number comes back
490
00:17:55,922 --> 00:17:57,791
to either Steven
or Jamie Aronofsky,
491
00:17:57,858 --> 00:17:59,425
there's a Facebook page
492
00:17:59,492 --> 00:18:02,002
with a girl who lives
in New York.
493
00:18:02,068 --> 00:18:03,904
We should go show this
to William and Akirra,
494
00:18:03,970 --> 00:18:05,305
see what they think.
495
00:18:05,371 --> 00:18:07,173
‐ Yeah.
‐ And I think meeting her
496
00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,843
is the only way he's ever
gonna be able to move on...
497
00:18:09,910 --> 00:18:11,311
‐ Agreed.
‐ And be with Akirra.
498
00:18:11,377 --> 00:18:13,113
‐ Agreed.
‐ And get her to stop
499
00:18:13,179 --> 00:18:14,681
messing with them.
500
00:18:18,585 --> 00:18:20,654
[upbeat music]
501
00:18:20,721 --> 00:18:22,589
♪♪ ♪♪
502
00:18:22,656 --> 00:18:23,957
[knocking]
503
00:18:24,891 --> 00:18:26,326
‐ Hello, there.
‐ Hello.
504
00:18:26,392 --> 00:18:28,428
‐ Hey.
‐ How you guys doing today?
505
00:18:28,494 --> 00:18:30,664
We can sit over here, guys.
‐ Okay.
506
00:18:30,731 --> 00:18:32,666
‐ It's cozy in here.
507
00:18:32,733 --> 00:18:33,700
‐ Ah.
508
00:18:33,767 --> 00:18:35,502
Any new developments?
509
00:18:35,569 --> 00:18:37,604
‐ No new Paypal requests?
510
00:18:37,671 --> 00:18:39,272
‐ Mm‐mm.
‐ Nope, anything.
511
00:18:39,339 --> 00:18:40,841
‐ All right, so look.
We've been obviously
512
00:18:40,907 --> 00:18:43,544
talking about what reason
513
00:18:43,610 --> 00:18:48,281
Jamie would have
for sending you all that money.
514
00:18:48,348 --> 00:18:50,050
You met her,
you started talking.
515
00:18:50,116 --> 00:18:52,318
You mentioned
that you were tight on cash.
516
00:18:52,385 --> 00:18:54,120
‐ Yes.
‐ But did she ever
517
00:18:54,187 --> 00:18:56,222
actively talk about having
lots of money?
518
00:18:56,289 --> 00:18:59,092
‐ She was talking about
a lot of money, just‐‐
519
00:18:59,159 --> 00:19:01,902
she used to, like, talk about
sex and stuff like that.
520
00:19:01,968 --> 00:19:03,770
And, like...
‐ So, well,
521
00:19:03,837 --> 00:19:05,205
that's what makes me wonder.
522
00:19:05,271 --> 00:19:10,076
Like, was she paying you
for sexual favors?
523
00:19:10,143 --> 00:19:12,145
‐ No.
That was not in our agreement.
524
00:19:12,212 --> 00:19:14,214
We had an agreement.
Me and her had an agreement.
525
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,016
‐ An understanding.
‐ Mm‐hmm.
526
00:19:16,082 --> 00:19:17,483
‐ I talk to you
and give you attention,
527
00:19:17,551 --> 00:19:18,952
and you give me money.
‐ Right.
528
00:19:19,019 --> 00:19:20,587
‐ Yeah.
That's‐‐thank you.
529
00:19:20,654 --> 00:19:23,990
‐ That's called
an escort service.
530
00:19:24,057 --> 00:19:25,158
‐ Well.
‐ And you could have
531
00:19:25,225 --> 00:19:26,660
a real business with this.
532
00:19:26,727 --> 00:19:27,961
‐ You could be a gigolo.
533
00:19:28,028 --> 00:19:29,495
‐ A gigolo?
What's a gigolo?
534
00:19:29,563 --> 00:19:30,964
‐ It's a male escort.
‐ It's what you're doing.
535
00:19:31,031 --> 00:19:33,266
‐ Yeah, you're like
a virtual gigolo.
536
00:19:33,333 --> 00:19:35,569
‐ You understand
that it's weird, right?
537
00:19:35,636 --> 00:19:37,237
‐ Yeah, it's very weird.
‐ From an outsider‐‐
538
00:19:37,303 --> 00:19:39,172
the fact that you met
some sort of
539
00:19:39,239 --> 00:19:41,307
random person online
who lived far away.
540
00:19:41,374 --> 00:19:43,043
Like, you knew she was falling
in love with you.
541
00:19:43,109 --> 00:19:44,845
‐ Yeah, I knew she was falling
in love with me.
542
00:19:44,911 --> 00:19:47,614
‐ And did you ever feel
kinda bad taking the money?
543
00:19:47,681 --> 00:19:49,282
‐ Nope.
544
00:19:49,349 --> 00:19:51,918
She gave me the blueprint
to do that, so I kept‐‐
545
00:19:51,985 --> 00:19:53,319
It got even bigger.
First, it started
546
00:19:53,386 --> 00:19:57,023
$20, $50, $60, $70.
You know, kept going up.
547
00:19:57,090 --> 00:19:58,925
Up and up.
And I was loving it.
548
00:19:58,992 --> 00:20:00,460
I was in love with that.
549
00:20:00,527 --> 00:20:02,536
‐ So do you really think
you were in love with her
550
00:20:02,603 --> 00:20:06,339
or in love with what
she was providing you with?
551
00:20:06,406 --> 00:20:08,041
‐ Even though it wasn't
her thing,
552
00:20:08,108 --> 00:20:10,711
she always kept saying
you want to do for me.
553
00:20:10,777 --> 00:20:12,946
I guess on her side,
she thought we, you know,
554
00:20:13,013 --> 00:20:14,548
genuinely, like,
in a relationship.
555
00:20:16,316 --> 00:20:17,984
‐ But you said yesterday
556
00:20:18,051 --> 00:20:19,520
you really did care for Jamie.
557
00:20:19,586 --> 00:20:21,154
She really cared for you.
You really thought
558
00:20:21,221 --> 00:20:23,056
that was going to be something.
559
00:20:27,594 --> 00:20:30,096
‐ Akirra,
do you wanna go outside
560
00:20:30,163 --> 00:20:31,865
and have some girl talk?
561
00:20:31,932 --> 00:20:33,967
‐ Yeah, that's fine.
‐ Okay, cool.
562
00:20:35,636 --> 00:20:40,140
Let's go in the car.
I'm trying to be warm.
563
00:20:40,206 --> 00:20:42,543
Like, yesterday,
obviously, you know,
564
00:20:42,609 --> 00:20:45,646
William was saying that
he was, like,
565
00:20:45,712 --> 00:20:47,247
in love with this girl,
566
00:20:47,313 --> 00:20:49,315
and like,
that's the reason why
567
00:20:49,382 --> 00:20:50,851
he kept the relationship going.
568
00:20:50,917 --> 00:20:53,353
But now,
he's making it seem like
569
00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:54,855
it's all about money.
‐ It's about the money, yeah.
570
00:20:54,921 --> 00:20:56,389
‐ Like, for one second‐‐
‐ Does he think that's what
571
00:20:56,456 --> 00:20:58,124
you wanna hear?
Maybe that's why
572
00:20:58,191 --> 00:20:59,893
he's saying that?
‐ I think so.
573
00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,001
I guess he's trying
to protect my feelings
574
00:21:01,067 --> 00:21:03,003
but, like, he admitted to me
575
00:21:03,069 --> 00:21:04,337
that he was still in love
with this girl
576
00:21:04,404 --> 00:21:05,405
and that's when
I was definitely, like‐‐
577
00:21:05,471 --> 00:21:06,673
‐ Still in love with her now?
578
00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:07,674
‐ Yeah.
579
00:21:09,142 --> 00:21:10,376
‐ All right. So, okay.
Real talk,
580
00:21:10,443 --> 00:21:13,146
guy to guy.
‐ Guy to guy.
581
00:21:13,213 --> 00:21:16,216
‐ If you were given
the choice right now
582
00:21:16,282 --> 00:21:19,219
between Jamie and Akirra...
‐ Mm‐hmm.
583
00:21:19,285 --> 00:21:20,754
‐ And Jamie was everything
584
00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:22,956
she said she was,
‐ Yeah.
585
00:21:23,023 --> 00:21:25,091
‐ I imagine that
would be hard for you.
586
00:21:25,158 --> 00:21:27,060
‐ Jamie, she genuinely
cared and loved me
587
00:21:27,127 --> 00:21:29,395
by sending me money
to help me,
588
00:21:29,462 --> 00:21:31,998
lifting me up
when I needed it.
589
00:21:32,065 --> 00:21:35,836
But things just didn't go
how we planned.
590
00:21:35,902 --> 00:21:37,504
‐ Right.
591
00:21:37,571 --> 00:21:41,642
‐ Akirra is what Jamie
was supposed to have been.
592
00:21:41,708 --> 00:21:44,778
‐ Clearly, this is not
just about the money.
593
00:21:44,845 --> 00:21:46,780
‐ That's when I was like,
"If you do find out
594
00:21:46,847 --> 00:21:48,348
"if you do find out
who this person is,
595
00:21:48,414 --> 00:21:49,583
"and, like, y'all wanna
move on together,
596
00:21:49,650 --> 00:21:51,451
then I'm fine just being
your friend."
597
00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:52,619
And that's when
he was, like,
598
00:21:52,686 --> 00:21:53,887
"I wanna be with you.
599
00:21:53,954 --> 00:21:55,221
"There's nothing
that she can do."
600
00:21:55,288 --> 00:21:56,623
But I'm just
sitting here confused,
601
00:21:56,690 --> 00:21:58,925
like, what's really going on?
‐ Right.
602
00:21:58,992 --> 00:22:00,827
‐ What's really gonna happen?
‐ Looking kinda shady, yeah.
603
00:22:00,894 --> 00:22:03,403
‐ Would you say that you're
prepared to leave him?
604
00:22:03,469 --> 00:22:04,638
‐ Yeah.
605
00:22:04,705 --> 00:22:06,339
Moving on ain't hard.
I'm pretty, young.
606
00:22:06,406 --> 00:22:07,974
Like, I have a car,
I graduated high school,
607
00:22:08,041 --> 00:22:09,409
like, very smart.
608
00:22:09,475 --> 00:22:11,945
‐ I feel like you're
not going to get
609
00:22:12,012 --> 00:22:15,849
the 100% honest truth
about this unless he meets her.
610
00:22:15,916 --> 00:22:17,818
‐ Exactly.
611
00:22:17,884 --> 00:22:19,986
‐ I had it rough growing up.
612
00:22:20,053 --> 00:22:21,321
Ain't had everything
I wanted,
613
00:22:21,387 --> 00:22:22,989
couldn't get everything
I wanted,
614
00:22:23,056 --> 00:22:25,759
everything that I ever
wanted or needed.
615
00:22:25,826 --> 00:22:29,062
Jamie provided that for me.
616
00:22:29,129 --> 00:22:30,330
I never had nobody
in my life‐‐
617
00:22:30,396 --> 00:22:32,599
my mother, my father‐‐
618
00:22:32,666 --> 00:22:37,303
none of them did, like,
so much what Jamie did for me.
619
00:22:37,370 --> 00:22:39,205
‐ Does Akirra know about that?
620
00:22:47,681 --> 00:22:49,115
‐ We're back.
621
00:22:50,584 --> 00:22:52,485
Just a little man‐hating,
you know.
622
00:22:52,553 --> 00:22:55,188
The usual.
‐ [laughs]
623
00:22:55,255 --> 00:22:57,490
‐ All right, so look.
Enough chit‐chat.
624
00:22:57,558 --> 00:22:59,492
And I don't wanna
waste too much time.
625
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,968
So let's just‐‐
we'll walk you through it.
626
00:23:02,035 --> 00:23:03,670
We did a search
for the phone number.
627
00:23:03,737 --> 00:23:05,205
The first one
628
00:23:05,271 --> 00:23:08,775
came back registered
to Steven Aronofsky.
629
00:23:08,842 --> 00:23:10,577
We went into your Paypal.
630
00:23:10,644 --> 00:23:12,045
When she started
sending you money,
631
00:23:12,112 --> 00:23:14,447
it was coming from
Jamie Aronofsky.
632
00:23:14,515 --> 00:23:16,850
But this guy obviously
is a guy, he's 61,
633
00:23:16,917 --> 00:23:19,553
so we thought,
okay, maybe it's her dad.
634
00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:21,888
It's a New York,
Long Island phone number.
635
00:23:21,955 --> 00:23:24,357
So we ran the phone number
again on a different website,
636
00:23:24,424 --> 00:23:25,926
and look at this!
637
00:23:25,992 --> 00:23:30,196
Came back as Jamie Aronofsky.
638
00:23:30,263 --> 00:23:33,567
But this one also has
639
00:23:33,634 --> 00:23:35,235
a Facebook that it brings up
640
00:23:35,301 --> 00:23:37,804
for Jamie A.
641
00:23:41,407 --> 00:23:45,045
And it's this girl
who lives in New York.
642
00:23:45,111 --> 00:23:47,180
She looks
a little different.
643
00:23:47,247 --> 00:23:49,382
‐ Way different.
644
00:23:49,449 --> 00:23:51,351
‐ [laughs]
‐ But she's got a necklace
645
00:23:51,417 --> 00:23:53,286
that says "Jamie."
646
00:23:53,353 --> 00:23:55,556
So there's a chance
most of what you think
647
00:23:55,622 --> 00:23:57,423
you know about Jamie
is true,
648
00:23:57,490 --> 00:23:58,992
except she's not the girl
in the pictures.
649
00:23:59,059 --> 00:24:01,802
She's this girl.
‐ Great.
650
00:24:01,868 --> 00:24:04,470
‐ Um, kind of unfortunately,
that's as far as we got.
651
00:24:04,538 --> 00:24:07,641
But all we can really do now
is just call her,
652
00:24:07,708 --> 00:24:11,678
and offer her an opportunity
to finally meet you.
653
00:24:11,745 --> 00:24:12,779
‐ Do it.
654
00:24:12,846 --> 00:24:15,115
‐ So I'm gonna call her.
655
00:24:15,181 --> 00:24:16,282
‐ Okay.
656
00:24:16,349 --> 00:24:18,318
[line trilling]
‐ Jamie.
657
00:24:20,020 --> 00:24:21,622
‐ Yeah, hey, is this Jamie?
658
00:24:23,256 --> 00:24:25,491
‐ Hey, Jamie.
My name is Nev,
659
00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:27,928
from the TV show "Catfish."
660
00:24:27,994 --> 00:24:33,099
I would love to help you
finally meet up with Will,
661
00:24:33,166 --> 00:24:36,670
who I know you've been talking
to for a few years now.
662
00:24:36,737 --> 00:24:40,907
Um, are you up in Queens
or Long Island?
663
00:24:45,078 --> 00:24:46,312
‐ Okay, well‐‐
664
00:24:47,347 --> 00:24:48,815
[disconnect tone]
665
00:24:48,882 --> 00:24:51,184
‐ Mother[bleep],
I knew that was gonna happen.
666
00:24:51,251 --> 00:24:53,554
Is that the same voice that
you listened to when you talked
667
00:24:53,620 --> 00:24:54,921
to her on the phone?
‐ Yes, that's her voice.
668
00:24:54,988 --> 00:24:56,389
‐ That's her?
‐ That's the voice.
669
00:24:56,456 --> 00:24:57,323
‐ Always, that's the voice
you hear?
670
00:24:57,390 --> 00:24:58,458
‐ Yeah, that's the voice.
671
00:24:58,525 --> 00:25:00,701
‐ You could text her.
672
00:25:03,203 --> 00:25:04,437
‐ I said,
"Hey, Jamie. I understand
673
00:25:04,505 --> 00:25:06,507
"now isn't
a good time for you.
674
00:25:06,573 --> 00:25:08,942
"But you can't ignore
this situation any longer.
675
00:25:09,009 --> 00:25:11,645
"I know there's a lot going on
here, and it's complicated,
676
00:25:11,712 --> 00:25:13,980
"but both you and Will
owe it to yourselves
677
00:25:14,047 --> 00:25:17,117
"to finally meet face to face
and sort this out.
678
00:25:17,183 --> 00:25:19,485
"We will come to NYC tomorrow
679
00:25:19,553 --> 00:25:21,755
and expect you to find
some time to meet us."
680
00:25:21,822 --> 00:25:23,189
‐ Mm‐hmm.
681
00:25:23,256 --> 00:25:24,591
That's right.
682
00:25:24,658 --> 00:25:26,159
We don't have to give
her a choice.
683
00:25:26,226 --> 00:25:27,227
‐ Yeah,
she don't have a choice
684
00:25:27,293 --> 00:25:28,729
because I'm gonna find her.
685
00:25:28,795 --> 00:25:30,296
‐ We're gonna go up
to New York tomorrow.
686
00:25:30,363 --> 00:25:32,799
We have an address.
We'll figure it out.
687
00:25:32,866 --> 00:25:34,300
‐ Okay, sure.
‐ That work?
688
00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:35,636
‐ Yeah.
‐ Okay, yeah, that's fine.
689
00:25:35,702 --> 00:25:37,437
‐ All right.
‐ All right, thank you.
690
00:25:37,504 --> 00:25:39,405
‐ Pack your bags.
‐ Okay.
691
00:25:39,472 --> 00:25:42,275
‐ New York bound.
‐ All right.
692
00:25:42,342 --> 00:25:44,845
‐ There's no way that
this relationship can continue
693
00:25:44,911 --> 00:25:46,613
as it is.
694
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,049
‐ She told me in the car
that she believes in her heart
695
00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:51,017
that he's in love with Jamie.
696
00:25:51,084 --> 00:25:53,954
And she said she's fully
prepared to leave him.
697
00:25:54,020 --> 00:25:55,121
‐ Wow.
698
00:25:55,188 --> 00:25:57,323
Lot of drama
699
00:25:57,390 --> 00:26:00,193
in that relationship
right now; I mean‐‐
700
00:26:00,260 --> 00:26:02,035
‐ I mean, this could be
make or break
701
00:26:02,102 --> 00:26:04,337
for their relationship.
702
00:26:08,474 --> 00:26:09,910
[line trilling]
703
00:26:09,976 --> 00:26:11,177
‐ Good morning.
704
00:26:11,244 --> 00:26:13,980
‐ Hey, rise and shine.
705
00:26:14,047 --> 00:26:15,816
No response yet from Jamie.
706
00:26:15,882 --> 00:26:17,551
Just roll up?
‐ I'm down.
707
00:26:17,618 --> 00:26:19,753
‐ ♪♪ I feel like
a million bucks ♪♪
708
00:26:19,820 --> 00:26:23,156
♪♪ No, I never can
get enough ♪♪
709
00:26:23,223 --> 00:26:24,691
♪♪ Cha‐Cha‐Cha‐Ching ♪♪
710
00:26:24,758 --> 00:26:26,059
‐ Good morning!
711
00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:27,928
‐ ♪♪ I feel like
a million bucks ♪♪
712
00:26:27,994 --> 00:26:30,396
♪♪ Uh‐huh, you know
I got all the love ♪♪
713
00:26:30,463 --> 00:26:32,833
‐ Your first flight.
714
00:26:32,899 --> 00:26:36,302
♪♪ ♪♪
715
00:26:38,238 --> 00:26:40,774
‐ ♪♪ Cha‐Cha‐Cha‐Ching ♪♪
716
00:26:40,841 --> 00:26:43,009
♪♪ I feel like
a million bucks ♪♪
717
00:26:43,076 --> 00:26:45,712
♪♪ No, I never can
get enough ♪♪
718
00:26:45,779 --> 00:26:47,480
♪♪ Cha‐Cha‐Cha‐Ching ♪♪
719
00:26:47,548 --> 00:26:48,915
‐ Let's let her know
we're here in New York.
720
00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:50,551
‐ ♪♪ I feel like
a million bucks ♪♪
721
00:26:50,617 --> 00:26:53,687
♪♪ Uh‐huh, you know
I got all the love ♪♪
722
00:26:54,655 --> 00:26:56,857
‐ All right, guys.
How's everyone feeling?
723
00:26:56,923 --> 00:26:58,358
What happened last night?
724
00:27:29,763 --> 00:27:31,665
[electronic tone]
‐ Is that Jamie?
725
00:27:31,732 --> 00:27:33,466
‐ She sent an address.
726
00:27:33,534 --> 00:27:35,602
She says she can meet
around 11:30.
727
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:39,039
‐ Wow, all right,
so we've got a date.
728
00:27:39,105 --> 00:27:43,209
Here is the hotel.
729
00:27:43,276 --> 00:27:46,747
Let's just grab your stuff.
730
00:27:55,255 --> 00:27:56,523
‐ So what's all this?
731
00:27:56,590 --> 00:27:58,559
‐ Just messages of me
and Jamie.
732
00:28:04,738 --> 00:28:07,240
‐ That's the girl we saw
on the Facebook page.
733
00:28:07,307 --> 00:28:08,742
‐ It's the same girl to you?
734
00:28:08,809 --> 00:28:10,310
‐ Are you joking?
Yes.
735
00:28:10,376 --> 00:28:11,678
It's the same girl,
736
00:28:11,745 --> 00:28:13,046
With the glasses
and everything.
737
00:28:13,113 --> 00:28:14,047
Come on, man.
738
00:28:15,115 --> 00:28:16,650
‐ Are you kidding?
739
00:28:16,717 --> 00:28:18,318
‐ Yes, it's the same girl.
740
00:28:18,384 --> 00:28:21,054
[laughs]
What?
741
00:28:23,323 --> 00:28:25,125
‐ When was this?
742
00:28:30,063 --> 00:28:31,431
‐ Well, I think
we've gotta tell her.
743
00:28:31,497 --> 00:28:33,066
‐ [exhales]
744
00:28:36,837 --> 00:28:40,340
‐ Did you know that William
had real photos of Jamie
745
00:28:40,406 --> 00:28:42,509
and he forgot?
746
00:28:42,576 --> 00:28:45,746
‐ No.
He just‐‐mm.
747
00:28:45,812 --> 00:28:47,313
‐ Bro, just get out
of my [bleep] face.
748
00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:49,950
Just go.
‐ You gonna be okay?
749
00:28:50,016 --> 00:28:52,252
‐ This [bleep] was
a waste of time.
750
00:28:52,318 --> 00:28:54,988
The truth always
comes out.
751
00:29:00,594 --> 00:29:02,135
‐ Akirra, is she okay?
752
00:29:02,202 --> 00:29:03,369
‐ She's in the bathroom.
753
00:29:03,436 --> 00:29:05,105
I just spoke to her,
754
00:29:05,171 --> 00:29:07,273
and she says doesn't want
to come with us to meet Jamie.
755
00:29:07,340 --> 00:29:08,709
‐ I wish
she could come with me.
756
00:29:08,775 --> 00:29:10,877
Like, that's what I know.
She feel how she's feeling.
757
00:29:10,944 --> 00:29:13,346
‐ But I understand where
Akirra's coming from.
758
00:29:13,413 --> 00:29:15,248
I mean, she's upset.
759
00:29:15,315 --> 00:29:17,951
She's having a hard time
trusting you right now.
760
00:29:18,018 --> 00:29:19,452
Why don't we respect
her wishes
761
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,488
and just leave her alone
to cool down?
762
00:29:24,224 --> 00:29:25,859
[electronic tone]
‐ Akirra just said
763
00:29:25,926 --> 00:29:27,528
she's ready to go [bleep] home
764
00:29:27,594 --> 00:29:29,796
and she's ready to go
the [bleep] off.
765
00:29:29,863 --> 00:29:30,731
‐ Oh.
766
00:29:30,797 --> 00:29:32,465
‐ I know I [bleep] up.
767
00:29:37,003 --> 00:29:39,540
‐ All right, here's the park.
768
00:29:41,307 --> 00:29:42,709
‐ [sighs]
769
00:29:42,776 --> 00:29:43,844
‐ What's wrong?
770
00:29:43,910 --> 00:29:45,111
‐ I'm worrying about Akirra.
771
00:29:45,178 --> 00:29:46,547
That's what I'm thinking about
right now.
772
00:29:46,613 --> 00:29:48,549
I'm thinking, like,
what's going through her mind.
773
00:29:48,615 --> 00:29:51,585
I just want everything
to just be...
774
00:29:51,652 --> 00:29:53,954
you know, okay.
775
00:29:56,990 --> 00:29:58,559
I still wish Akirra
could have came.
776
00:29:58,625 --> 00:30:00,801
‐ I don't think
you'd want Akirra there.
777
00:30:00,867 --> 00:30:01,835
‐ Yeah.
778
00:30:01,902 --> 00:30:03,269
‐ All right.
779
00:30:03,336 --> 00:30:04,370
Let's see what's going on
out here.
780
00:30:04,437 --> 00:30:06,406
‐ Okay, man, let's do this.
781
00:30:06,472 --> 00:30:09,409
[suspenseful music]
782
00:30:09,475 --> 00:30:11,111
♪♪ ♪♪
783
00:30:13,947 --> 00:30:15,448
‐ Crazy, man.
784
00:30:17,618 --> 00:30:19,586
‐ I think I see her.
785
00:30:19,653 --> 00:30:21,454
‐ What the [bleep]?
786
00:30:25,258 --> 00:30:26,727
‐ I think I see her.
787
00:30:26,793 --> 00:30:27,928
Jamie?
788
00:30:27,994 --> 00:30:29,896
‐ Does it look like her?
789
00:30:29,963 --> 00:30:30,764
‐ I don't know.
790
00:30:30,831 --> 00:30:33,099
[suspenseful music]
791
00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:35,235
‐ Oh, my [bleep] God.
792
00:30:35,301 --> 00:30:37,403
This is [bleep] crazy, cuz.
793
00:30:37,470 --> 00:30:40,907
This is [bleep] crazy.
794
00:30:40,974 --> 00:30:42,509
‐ Hi.
795
00:30:42,576 --> 00:30:45,078
‐ How you doing?
Nev.
796
00:30:45,145 --> 00:30:46,913
‐ I'm Jamie.
‐ Kamie.
797
00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:47,948
‐ Nice to meet you.
798
00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:49,750
‐ Obviously,
you know William.
799
00:30:49,816 --> 00:30:51,585
‐ Yeah.
800
00:30:51,652 --> 00:30:52,786
‐ Why don't we talk out here?
801
00:30:52,853 --> 00:30:54,320
It's just a little dark
under there.
802
00:30:54,387 --> 00:30:57,190
So what's going on?
803
00:30:57,257 --> 00:30:59,693
‐ Um, a lot.
804
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,067
‐ You're Jamie?
‐ Yeah.
805
00:31:01,134 --> 00:31:03,504
‐ Whole time, you were Jamie?
‐ Mm‐hmm.
806
00:31:03,570 --> 00:31:07,440
But I did tell you in texts
807
00:31:07,508 --> 00:31:09,342
who I was,
and I sent you pictures.
808
00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:10,744
‐ You're right,
809
00:31:10,811 --> 00:31:13,079
because we just saw.
‐ We just saw.
810
00:31:13,146 --> 00:31:14,948
‐ Yeah.
‐ So when you first met him,
811
00:31:15,015 --> 00:31:16,249
were you lying about
812
00:31:16,316 --> 00:31:17,584
the pictures?
‐ Yes, I was.
813
00:31:17,651 --> 00:31:19,185
‐ Okay, so initially,
you were using
814
00:31:19,252 --> 00:31:20,921
different pictures.
‐ Mm‐hmm.
815
00:31:20,987 --> 00:31:22,388
‐ So you admitted that you were
using the wrong pictures,
816
00:31:22,455 --> 00:31:23,690
and you sent him
the right pictures.
817
00:31:23,757 --> 00:31:25,258
‐ Yeah.
‐ But then did you go back
818
00:31:25,325 --> 00:31:27,160
to using fake pictures again?
819
00:31:27,227 --> 00:31:28,595
‐ Yeah, because he kept on
820
00:31:28,662 --> 00:31:30,363
not really believing
that that was me.
821
00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:31,898
So I said I would just‐‐
822
00:31:31,965 --> 00:31:33,834
Like, in my head, I said
I would go along with it.
823
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:36,102
‐ So that is confusing for him.
‐ Yeah.
824
00:31:36,169 --> 00:31:38,839
‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ I mean...
825
00:31:38,905 --> 00:31:40,841
for most people,
I would think
826
00:31:40,907 --> 00:31:43,076
they would‐‐they would get it.
827
00:31:44,978 --> 00:31:47,948
‐ When I started developing
feelings that I had,
828
00:31:48,014 --> 00:31:49,482
I came clean.
829
00:31:49,550 --> 00:31:51,585
Because I felt it was
the right thing to do.
830
00:31:51,652 --> 00:31:54,387
‐ Thank you.
‐ [laughs]
831
00:31:54,454 --> 00:31:56,723
‐ You are the first person.
832
00:31:56,790 --> 00:31:58,625
You lied about who you were,
833
00:31:58,692 --> 00:32:00,226
then you got into
a relationship,
834
00:32:00,293 --> 00:32:02,068
you had feelings for him,
so you told him the truth.
835
00:32:02,135 --> 00:32:04,070
‐ Yeah, because it was
bothering me for a while.
836
00:32:04,137 --> 00:32:07,508
‐ You didn't wanna believe it.
‐ I didn't wanna believe it.
837
00:32:07,574 --> 00:32:09,643
‐ What's up with
all the money?
838
00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:11,812
'Cause that's very
confusing to us.
839
00:32:11,878 --> 00:32:13,379
‐ I had feelings for him,
840
00:32:13,446 --> 00:32:15,348
and I just wanted
to help him out.
841
00:32:15,415 --> 00:32:17,951
‐ Just because you liked him?
‐ Because she loved me.
842
00:32:18,018 --> 00:32:19,152
‐ Yeah.
843
00:32:19,219 --> 00:32:20,654
‐ And that was just
your money that‐‐
844
00:32:20,721 --> 00:32:23,557
‐ Yeah, that I was making
on social media.
845
00:32:23,624 --> 00:32:25,358
‐ I mean,
I never really had
846
00:32:25,425 --> 00:32:28,194
a really serious relationship.
847
00:32:28,261 --> 00:32:30,130
And, it was like,
848
00:32:30,196 --> 00:32:33,867
if I sent him money, yeah,
it would keep him around.
849
00:32:33,934 --> 00:32:35,769
I look at it now that
I shouldn't have done that.
850
00:32:35,836 --> 00:32:38,471
But because I couldn't
break how I felt,
851
00:32:38,539 --> 00:32:41,241
then I just kept doing it.
852
00:32:42,909 --> 00:32:46,379
‐ These other accounts
that I think you created
853
00:32:46,446 --> 00:32:49,315
to mess with him and other
girls that he was dating,
854
00:32:49,382 --> 00:32:50,784
was that‐‐
‐ No.
855
00:32:50,851 --> 00:32:52,085
‐ Did you not make any
of those accounts?
856
00:32:52,152 --> 00:32:54,888
‐ No.
‐ But you've contacted Akirra.
857
00:32:54,955 --> 00:32:56,056
‐ No.
858
00:32:56,122 --> 00:32:57,958
I mean,
I don't know what messages
859
00:32:58,024 --> 00:32:59,359
that is referring to‐‐
‐ Well, saying,
860
00:32:59,425 --> 00:33:00,894
"I know where you live."
‐ Yeah.
861
00:33:00,961 --> 00:33:02,268
‐ "I want my money back."
‐ Yeah, I've said that,
862
00:33:02,335 --> 00:33:05,005
but I didn't actually,
like, think that‐‐
863
00:33:05,071 --> 00:33:06,740
if I was, like,
actually gonna do that.
864
00:33:06,807 --> 00:33:08,675
‐ You didn't try to log in
to her Instagram account?
865
00:33:08,742 --> 00:33:11,111
‐ No, there's no way
I could've done that.
866
00:33:12,913 --> 00:33:15,048
‐ I don't see nobody else
doing that.
867
00:33:15,115 --> 00:33:17,818
‐ I didn't have a valid reason
to go after Akirra‐‐
868
00:33:17,884 --> 00:33:19,520
‐ Well, yes you did.
‐ You do.
869
00:33:19,586 --> 00:33:20,854
‐ Honestly, yeah.
‐ You love him,
870
00:33:20,921 --> 00:33:22,388
and have a relationship
with him,
871
00:33:22,455 --> 00:33:24,190
and then he started
dating Akirra.
872
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:27,961
‐ I wouldn't blame you,
because
873
00:33:28,028 --> 00:33:30,096
I would be [bleep]
pissed off, too.
874
00:33:30,163 --> 00:33:31,898
I would be, like,
"Who the hell
875
00:33:31,965 --> 00:33:35,802
do you think you are,
just walking all over me?"
876
00:33:41,307 --> 00:33:44,344
‐ I feel like you're really
judgmental at times, you are.
877
00:33:44,410 --> 00:33:46,079
‐ I'm judgmental?
‐ Yeah.
878
00:33:46,146 --> 00:33:48,682
‐ I don't think I'm judgmental.
I don't judge people.
879
00:33:52,418 --> 00:33:54,487
‐ I don't think that's right.
I would not say that to you.
880
00:33:54,555 --> 00:33:57,524
‐ So wait, so after you showed
him pictures of yourself,
881
00:33:57,591 --> 00:34:00,093
he said, "I'm not attracted
to this girl, she's ugly."
882
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,769
‐ Yeah.
‐ That's [bleep] up.
883
00:34:02,836 --> 00:34:04,137
‐ And he said that
884
00:34:04,204 --> 00:34:05,739
he didn't find my
actual voice attractive.
885
00:34:05,806 --> 00:34:07,674
‐ You said her voice was ugly?
886
00:34:07,741 --> 00:34:08,942
‐ Yeah, I said
her voice was ugly.
887
00:34:09,009 --> 00:34:10,443
I don't remember,
though, but‐‐yeah.
888
00:34:10,511 --> 00:34:11,945
‐ I do.
‐ You don't have a lot
889
00:34:12,012 --> 00:34:14,648
of memories of a lot of things.
‐ 'Cause I try to forget.
890
00:34:14,715 --> 00:34:16,683
‐ I remember everything.
I pretty much keep
891
00:34:16,750 --> 00:34:18,484
all of our convos,
I have everything, yeah.
892
00:34:18,552 --> 00:34:20,453
‐ That was how much you was
in love with me, huh?
893
00:34:20,521 --> 00:34:21,688
‐ Yeah.
‐ You really did love me.
894
00:34:21,755 --> 00:34:23,289
‐ Mm‐hmm.
895
00:34:23,356 --> 00:34:27,628
‐ What are your feelings
toward William now?
896
00:34:27,694 --> 00:34:29,295
‐ I still love him, I do.
897
00:34:29,362 --> 00:34:31,565
I think he is a great person,
898
00:34:31,632 --> 00:34:35,201
regardless of me feeling hurt.
899
00:34:35,268 --> 00:34:37,638
‐ So you would still like
to have a relationship
900
00:34:37,704 --> 00:34:39,272
of some kind,
and obviously,
901
00:34:39,339 --> 00:34:41,041
you still have
strong feelings for him.
902
00:34:41,107 --> 00:34:43,209
‐ Yeah.
‐ But he's in a relationship.
903
00:34:43,276 --> 00:34:45,746
Do you have any‐‐
what are your feelings now
904
00:34:45,812 --> 00:34:47,548
towards Jamie?
I mean, do you wanna
905
00:34:47,614 --> 00:34:49,550
still be friends?
906
00:34:49,616 --> 00:34:51,384
‐ No.
907
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,756
I just feel like we should
just go our separate ways,
908
00:34:55,822 --> 00:34:57,323
move on from this,
909
00:34:57,390 --> 00:34:58,959
because Akirra‐‐she‐‐
910
00:34:59,025 --> 00:35:01,001
she thinks, like,
that, you know, we talk,
911
00:35:01,067 --> 00:35:02,703
and that I do have feel‐‐
912
00:35:02,769 --> 00:35:04,104
I still love her
and care about her.
913
00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:06,106
But that's not the case
at all,
914
00:35:06,172 --> 00:35:07,774
because I love Akirra,
and I wouldn't do that.
915
00:35:07,841 --> 00:35:09,242
I'm not a cheater.
916
00:35:09,309 --> 00:35:12,212
‐ William, if you don't
wanna be friends with Jamie,
917
00:35:12,278 --> 00:35:15,315
then you also can't
be accepting her money.
918
00:35:15,381 --> 00:35:17,083
‐ I know.
919
00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:19,786
I apologize.
I'm sorry for any‐‐
920
00:35:19,853 --> 00:35:20,954
for everything I did,
921
00:35:21,021 --> 00:35:22,656
or if you felt‐‐
you felt that I hurt you.
922
00:35:22,723 --> 00:35:25,425
I apologize for that.
923
00:35:25,491 --> 00:35:26,860
‐ I feel the same way.
924
00:35:26,927 --> 00:35:28,529
I mean, yeah,
I'm sorry I lied to you
925
00:35:28,595 --> 00:35:29,696
about a lot of things.
926
00:35:31,164 --> 00:35:34,000
‐ I think that
moving forward,
927
00:35:34,067 --> 00:35:36,369
you're gonna find somebody
who truly loves you
928
00:35:36,436 --> 00:35:38,839
and respects you,
and you won't feel judged.
929
00:35:38,905 --> 00:35:41,207
‐ Yeah.
‐ Because you do
930
00:35:41,274 --> 00:35:44,545
strike all of us, I think,
as a really great person
931
00:35:44,611 --> 00:35:46,513
and you deserve
to have that.
932
00:35:46,580 --> 00:35:47,748
[bleep] this guy.
‐ Yeah.
933
00:35:47,814 --> 00:35:50,316
[laughter]
934
00:35:50,383 --> 00:35:52,753
‐ All right.
935
00:35:52,819 --> 00:35:55,388
I guess that's that.
936
00:35:55,455 --> 00:35:57,257
Good‐bye.
‐ Bye.
937
00:35:57,323 --> 00:35:58,491
‐ Good luck, girl.
938
00:35:58,559 --> 00:35:59,492
‐ Thank you.
939
00:36:02,202 --> 00:36:03,537
‐ Any good‐bye?
940
00:36:03,604 --> 00:36:06,740
‐ [sighs]
Nope.
941
00:36:06,807 --> 00:36:08,108
I'm cold.
I'm ready to leave.
942
00:36:08,174 --> 00:36:09,876
We need to go.
‐ All right. Bye.
943
00:36:09,943 --> 00:36:11,745
‐ Ready to go home
to my baby.
944
00:36:11,812 --> 00:36:13,780
‐ You ain't [bleep].
945
00:36:13,847 --> 00:36:16,416
‐ Come on.
‐ You're not.
946
00:36:16,482 --> 00:36:18,719
You better go back there
and give Akirra
947
00:36:18,785 --> 00:36:20,320
the biggest hug in the world.
948
00:36:20,386 --> 00:36:22,022
‐ Man, I am‐‐
‐ Get your ass in the car.
949
00:36:22,088 --> 00:36:25,559
‐ ♪♪ Should I brace myself? ♪♪
950
00:36:25,626 --> 00:36:27,561
♪♪ ♪♪
951
00:36:27,628 --> 00:36:30,931
‐ [bleep].
Thank God. Oh!
952
00:36:34,568 --> 00:36:37,237
‐ All right.
Well, you've gotta go clean up
953
00:36:37,303 --> 00:36:40,306
this mess you made with Akirra.
‐ She's [bleep] mad.
954
00:36:40,373 --> 00:36:42,909
I understand I was wrong
in some ways, you know,
955
00:36:42,976 --> 00:36:45,111
but all I wanna do
is just move on
956
00:36:45,178 --> 00:36:47,313
with my life with Akirra.
957
00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:48,348
[sighs]
958
00:36:48,414 --> 00:36:50,984
♪♪ ♪♪
959
00:36:53,754 --> 00:36:56,322
[melancholy music]
960
00:36:56,389 --> 00:36:59,392
♪♪ ♪♪
961
00:37:08,074 --> 00:37:09,142
‐ You crying?
‐ Yeah.
962
00:37:09,208 --> 00:37:10,677
‐ What happened?
963
00:37:10,744 --> 00:37:11,978
‐ He's just thinking
about Akirra.
964
00:37:12,045 --> 00:37:14,981
He wants everything to go well.
965
00:37:15,048 --> 00:37:16,750
‐ You all right, man?
966
00:37:16,816 --> 00:37:19,252
‐ It's gonna be fine,
but you have to be vulnerable.
967
00:37:21,154 --> 00:37:22,989
‐ Hello.
968
00:37:23,056 --> 00:37:24,691
‐ Come in.
‐ Okay.
969
00:37:26,392 --> 00:37:27,928
‐ Hey, Akirra.
970
00:37:36,169 --> 00:37:38,071
‐ I wanna
tell you that, um,
971
00:37:38,138 --> 00:37:40,040
you ain't got nothing
to worry about.
972
00:37:40,106 --> 00:37:43,176
And that I‐‐I wanna
be with you.
973
00:37:43,243 --> 00:37:44,344
You're who I wanna be with.
974
00:37:44,410 --> 00:37:45,912
I really do love you.
975
00:37:45,979 --> 00:37:50,851
And, like, the thing with Jamie
is, like, done.
976
00:37:50,917 --> 00:37:52,819
It's finished.
977
00:37:52,886 --> 00:37:54,855
I'm sorry.
978
00:37:58,124 --> 00:38:00,894
I wish you would talk to me.
979
00:38:00,961 --> 00:38:02,435
‐ I just feel like
there's a lot of stuff
980
00:38:02,503 --> 00:38:05,038
that's been hidden
981
00:38:05,105 --> 00:38:06,640
between you and her.
982
00:38:06,707 --> 00:38:09,475
‐ There's nothing going on
between me and her.
983
00:38:09,543 --> 00:38:12,078
Like, I told her
that I don't want‐‐
984
00:38:12,145 --> 00:38:13,547
nothing to do with you.
985
00:38:13,614 --> 00:38:15,248
I told her‐‐
‐ I mean, I don't even care
986
00:38:15,315 --> 00:38:17,818
about the details, or whatever.
987
00:38:20,887 --> 00:38:23,557
‐ I told her that
you're who I wanna be with
988
00:38:23,624 --> 00:38:27,327
and move my‐‐
move forward my life with.
989
00:38:27,393 --> 00:38:28,762
‐ I don't know what
really happened,
990
00:38:28,829 --> 00:38:30,631
so I don't know what
you said, she said,
991
00:38:30,697 --> 00:38:32,633
or whatever the case
may be, or‐‐
992
00:38:32,699 --> 00:38:35,636
‐ Well, we were there.
We met her.
993
00:38:35,702 --> 00:38:38,104
It was the girl
that we had all seen
994
00:38:38,171 --> 00:38:39,840
in that Facebook photo.
995
00:38:39,906 --> 00:38:43,510
She still
has feelings for him,
996
00:38:43,577 --> 00:38:45,345
so William
made it very clear
997
00:38:45,411 --> 00:38:47,280
that they can't
even be friends,
998
00:38:47,347 --> 00:38:49,149
because he's with you,
and there's no way
999
00:38:49,215 --> 00:38:52,919
to be friends with someone
if they have feelings for you.
1000
00:38:52,986 --> 00:38:57,023
He did say and do
all the right things today.
1001
00:38:57,090 --> 00:38:58,925
‐ Okay.
1002
00:38:58,992 --> 00:39:01,201
‐ And we asked her about the
messages that you were getting,
1003
00:39:01,267 --> 00:39:03,036
and the other accounts,
1004
00:39:03,103 --> 00:39:06,573
and it seems like
that's finished.
1005
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,676
Look, there's no way to know
if Jamie is gonna try
1006
00:39:09,743 --> 00:39:11,244
to keep reaching out
to either of you,
1007
00:39:11,311 --> 00:39:13,479
but if either of you
hear from her,
1008
00:39:13,547 --> 00:39:15,949
just be honest with each other
about it.
1009
00:39:16,016 --> 00:39:17,784
‐ And honesty was a big issue.
‐ Because the worst thing
1010
00:39:17,851 --> 00:39:19,452
that would happen would be
if you didn't tell her that.
1011
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,855
So just be...
1012
00:39:21,922 --> 00:39:24,057
‐ Yeah, be honest.
‐ Open about it.
1013
00:39:24,124 --> 00:39:26,459
‐ Don't just tell her what you
think she wants to hear.
1014
00:39:26,527 --> 00:39:29,495
Anything covered in
bull[bleep] is not gonna fly.
1015
00:39:29,563 --> 00:39:32,899
Just makes for better
communication.
1016
00:39:32,966 --> 00:39:35,802
‐ I do wanna
1017
00:39:35,869 --> 00:39:39,506
like, spend the rest of my life
with you, for real.
1018
00:39:39,573 --> 00:39:42,108
Um, I really do love you.
1019
00:39:42,175 --> 00:39:44,244
I really do care about you.
1020
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:46,246
And I want you to see that,
1021
00:39:46,312 --> 00:39:48,014
and know that.
1022
00:39:48,081 --> 00:39:50,517
And I understand you're upset
and everything like that,
1023
00:39:50,584 --> 00:39:52,986
but I'm sorry for not being
1024
00:39:53,053 --> 00:39:56,590
completely honest with you.
1025
00:40:01,501 --> 00:40:04,771
[lively music]
1026
00:40:04,838 --> 00:40:05,972
♪♪ ♪♪
1027
00:40:07,273 --> 00:40:08,575
‐ Where's the‐‐
‐ Oh!
1028
00:40:08,642 --> 00:40:10,611
‐ Hello. Hey.
‐ Oh, my goodness.
1029
00:40:10,677 --> 00:40:13,413
So you guys are still good.
1030
00:40:13,479 --> 00:40:16,382
‐ Yeah.
‐ What's going on with you two?
1031
00:40:16,449 --> 00:40:18,018
‐ We progressed from
1032
00:40:18,084 --> 00:40:19,653
when you guys helped us out.
‐ It's only up.
1033
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:21,855
We're going up and up.
1034
00:40:21,922 --> 00:40:24,224
‐ We made it to our
four‐month anniversary
1035
00:40:24,290 --> 00:40:26,126
and we've been stronger.
1036
00:40:26,192 --> 00:40:30,163
So everything has been only
going up from everything.
1037
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:34,134
‐ How do you feel now towards
William in terms of trust?
1038
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,869
We've gotten closer and we're,
1039
00:40:35,936 --> 00:40:38,672
like, encouraged
to go on with our relationship
1040
00:40:38,739 --> 00:40:40,807
and do what we have to do
to move forward.
1041
00:40:40,874 --> 00:40:42,609
I think we're better
as a person, you know,
1042
00:40:42,676 --> 00:40:44,845
to be able to work
with him as a team.
1043
00:40:44,911 --> 00:40:46,813
‐ Good; well, don't break
that trust, William.
1044
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,482
You have to stay
on good behavior.
1045
00:40:49,550 --> 00:40:50,851
‐ I got you.
‐ Try not to‐‐
1046
00:40:50,917 --> 00:40:53,319
yeah, stay out of trouble.
‐ Okay, will do.
1047
00:40:53,386 --> 00:40:54,821
‐ We'll keep in touch.
‐ See you.
1048
00:40:54,888 --> 00:40:56,156
‐ Bye.
‐ All right, bye.
1049
00:40:56,222 --> 00:40:57,323
Appreciate y'all.
1050
00:41:07,941 --> 00:41:09,475
‐ Danielle has been in contact
with BJ for six years.
1051
00:41:09,543 --> 00:41:11,678
‐ I was shot multiple times.
1052
00:41:11,745 --> 00:41:13,580
BJ was there for me.
1053
00:41:13,647 --> 00:41:16,316
He's keeping a huge secret.
1054
00:41:16,382 --> 00:41:18,652
‐ "I know who Danielle
is really talking to."
1055
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,820
‐ Whoa.
1056
00:41:19,886 --> 00:41:21,087
There are two people coming.
1057
00:41:21,154 --> 00:41:22,455
Is that them?
1058
00:41:22,523 --> 00:41:24,157
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
‐ What's going on?