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- ♪♪ MTV ♪♪
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- Sharon actually reached out
to me.
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We would talk for hours,
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but her and her husband
do still live together.
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He would be like, "So, like,
yeah, you know,
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she's carrying my baby."
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- She's pregnant?
- What?
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- This might be the most
insane catfish situation
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we've ever seen.
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Oh, God, we got hits.
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- Everywhere.
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- You got to be really
[bleep] up
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to play with somebody's mind.
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- I'm getting some seriously
bad vibes about this.
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- Oh, Lord.
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[door creaks]
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[dramatic musical sting]
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- Good morning.
- [groans]
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I had a giant cockroach
in my room last night.
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- Here?
- Yeah.
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- No, don't say that.
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- What--
- It was a cockroach, for real?
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- Yeah. Once and a while,
you get one.
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- No, no, no.
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No.
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Yeah, I don't know
if I'm really--Ah!
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[bleep]! Bitch.
- [laughing]
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- You are so disgusting!
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I hate you!
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- [continues laughing]
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It's our friend.
- [shouts]
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That was horrible.
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- Look at this.
- How could you do this to me?
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- A little bug house.
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Let the tissue drop.
- Oh, my God.
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- Good news is
there was no cockroach
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in my room last night.
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- I'm gonna find one
and put it in your room.
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- Are you ready?
- All right.
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We got an email here
from Angel.
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"Dear Nev and Kamie,
my name is Angel,
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"and I currently live
in San Antonio, Texas.
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"I have been
in a relationship
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"with this girl online
a couple months now.
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"She claims to live
in Austin, Texas,
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"which is only
a couple hours away.
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I met Sharon
on Plenty of Fish."
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- Plenty of Catfish
should be the new name.
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- [laughs]
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- "We exchanged numbers
after a few messages
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"and began texting nonstop.
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- ♪♪ Falling harder every day ♪♪
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- "I thought
she was very beautiful,
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but what really drew me
to her was our connection."
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- ♪♪ I don't have a heart ♪♪
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♪♪ To let someone like you
get away ♪♪
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- "With Sharon,
things instantly felt deeper.
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"It was only a couple weeks
into talking to each other
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that Sharon told me..."
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- "I love you."
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- That was the first time
you said that.
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- Not you.
- Oh.
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- Not after what you did to me.
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- ♪♪ When I got this hurt, it's
falling harder every day ♪♪
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- "The problem is that we have
made multiple plans to meet up,
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but every time she comes back
with an excuse."
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- ♪♪ Like a liar calling fire,
it's a spark ♪♪
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- "Her camera's broken,
so she can't"--
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Oh, come on! Come on!
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- Is the car broken?
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We just have to keep checking
off the list of things
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[bleep] catfish say.
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- "I don't know
what to think anymore.
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"I need your help
to meet Sharon
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"and find out if she is
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"who she says she is.
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Angel."
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- ♪♪ Get away ♪♪
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- She gonna need an angel
because Sharon is a catfish.
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- We got to call Angel.
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[line trills]
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Hello, is this Angel?
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- Guess who it is.
- Hey.
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It's your guardian angels,
Nev and Kamie.
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- Every Angel
needs a guardian angel.
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- How long have you been living
in San Antonio?
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If we come to San Antonio,
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are you gonna be able to take
a little bit of time
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from your grandparents
to meet with us
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so that we can see
if we can figure this out?
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- There's always more.
- There's always something.
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Okay, all right, Angel.
- Well, we'll see you soon.
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Thank you.
- All right.
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Should we San Antoni-go?
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- [laughing]
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Oh, boy.
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- ♪♪ I know that I got it ♪♪
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♪♪ I got it, I do ♪♪
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♪♪ Yeah ♪♪
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- See you soon, San Antonio.
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We're coming for you, Angel.
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- ♪♪ Oh, yeah, I do ♪♪
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♪♪ You know I do ♪♪
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- Okay!
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San Antone.
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- ♪♪ I got it, I do ♪♪
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- Big house.
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- Well...
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- Let's go.
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Ah!
[car bell chimes]
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Everything's bigger in Texas.
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[doorbell rings]
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- What a pleasant chime.
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- [gasps] Oh!
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I'm sorry, I'm fan-girling
so hard right now, yo.
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- What's up?
- Oh.
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- Hello.
- Good to meet you. I'm Kamie.
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- I know.
- Nice to meet you.
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- Nice to meet you.
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- Let's get inside
before I start perspiring.
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- Yeah, melt in here,
'cause this is--
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San Antonio heat
is different than...
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- It's hot.
- It is.
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- My kind of living room.
- Oh, yeah.
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[both grunting]
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- Why are you kicked back
like this?
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You get way too comfortable.
- He's comfortable.
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- I mean, I'm blocking out
all other distractions.
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- Blocking out the haters.
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- I just want to listen
and absorb...
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- Positive energy.
- Yes.
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- Everything I can about you
and your story.
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- Okay.
- So...
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- Start from the beginning.
- Go ahead.
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- So, when I moved
to San Antonio,
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you know, just taking care
of my grandparents,
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it was gonna be hard
to just meet people,
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so I created a dating app
on POF,
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and that's when Sharon
actually reached out to me.
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And then I asked her,
"Oh, so do you have kids?"
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She's like, "Yeah, I have two."
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And then I said, "Okay, so what
do you do for a living?"
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She was like, "Hey, I actually
have to be honest."
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Same day, she was like, "I'm
actually, like, a stripper."
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Like, she's forthcoming.
Like, I like that.
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Like, you're being honest,
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you're giving me
that opportunity
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before my feelings
get involved.
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That's what kind of drew me
to her, too.
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And then our conversations.
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Austin is, from San Antonio,
not that far.
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And I was like, "Hey, like,
I'll come to Austin," you know?
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Like, it's only like
an hour drive.
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She's like, "Okay, cool."
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So then she slipped
on some glass
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and broke her foot.
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I was like,
"Okay, like, damn, I'm sorry.
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Like, I hope you feel better."
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- I mean, this girl's using
every excuse in the book.
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- Yeah.
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- In the email,
you mentioned you've tried
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to meet up a bunch, though.
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- Yes, but she would jump
down my throat.
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"You know my situation."
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'Cause at this time,
I had just found out
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her and her husband
do still live together,
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which is the father
of her children.
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They're not divorced yet.
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- What?
- Yeah, this is a lot.
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A lot has transpired.
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I just don't know
where to start.
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- Wait.
- Hold on a second.
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So Sharon...
- Sharon...
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- Still lives...
- With her husband.
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- With her husband
and the father of her children.
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- Yeah, so she was telling me
that she had told her husband,
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you know,
"I don't want to be with you.
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Like, I really want to be
with her."
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So she called me
and was like, "Hey."
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Lorenzo's his name.
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She was like, "Hey,
Lorenzo wants to talk to you."
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Like, you want to talk
and meet the person
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who's going
to be around your kids.
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- Right.
- So I was like, "Okay, cool."
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So, okay,
I sent him a text message,
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like, "Hey, it's Angel.
Call me when you can."
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He said, "I don't talk on the
phone to people I don't know."
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Okay, whatever. So what
do you want to talk about?
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So then we go
into this conversation,
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and he was just like,
"So how did y'all meet?"
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- This is all via text?
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- All via text. And he started
cussing me out.
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"Eff you."
Like, "That's my wife."
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This, this, and that.
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So he was going,
so I would jump.
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He would say something,
I would jump.
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And he was just like,
"Well, I got goons for that."
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Like, this, this, that,
and the other.
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I said, "That's fine."
- Goons?
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- Oh, and then
he would be like,
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"So, like, yeah, you know
she's carrying my baby."
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I'm like, cool, bro.
Congratulations.
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- Oh, she's--she's pregnant?
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- [breathes deeply]
- [chuckles]
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- Let me stop you for a second.
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- [laughs]
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I think we both have
the same question.
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- What is it that you like
about this person?
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- It was--
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- Because so far
in your description
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of your relationship,
it's been nothing but drama
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and problems...
- Chaos.
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- And chaos.
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- To me, communication
and conversation is everything.
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Like, we talked for hours
and just laugh.
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- What kind of stuff
are you guys vibing on?
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- Basically her past life.
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She said
she struggled with drugs.
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I struggled with drugs.
I'm a recovering addict, so...
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Being in, like, physically
abusive, mentally abusive,
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emotionally abusive
relationships,
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I've been there.
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It was basically our past
that we related on.
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So it started with, like,
having a bond over that.
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And then it flourished
into a friendship,
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and then, you know, like,
then love came.
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- Where is
the relationship now?
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- Uh...
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she blocked me.
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After I had sent the email...
- To us.
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- I did tell her I did reach
out to the show,
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and she got mad and thought
that I was the police...
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trying to set her up
because she had warrants.
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- Yeah, there was a lot
left to tell us.
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- And what about social media?
Have you guys connected?
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- She doesn't have
social media.
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- At all?
- None.
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- Just Plenty of Fish?
- No Instagram, no Facebook,
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no Snapchat, no Twitter.
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- Unusual.
So what can you show us?
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[dramatic music]
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- Is this her?
- That's Sharon.
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- That's Sharon.
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Sharon is cute.
Look at those lashes.
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- I know, I love.
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- Oh.
- This is the foot.
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- That's the foot.
- The toes are light-skinned.
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She's brown.
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Why are the toes light?
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- See, to me, I was like,
251
00:09:08,882 --> 00:09:10,150
"Okay, well, I don't show
my feet,
252
00:09:10,217 --> 00:09:11,652
so maybe my feet
are pretty white."
253
00:09:11,718 --> 00:09:13,086
- Let me see your feet.
254
00:09:13,153 --> 00:09:14,221
- My feet are pretty white.
255
00:09:14,288 --> 00:09:15,756
- Hmm, no.
- No.
256
00:09:15,822 --> 00:09:17,024
They look like
they could be brown.
257
00:09:17,090 --> 00:09:18,058
- They're brown. Is this her?
258
00:09:18,125 --> 00:09:19,126
- No.
- Yeah.
259
00:09:19,193 --> 00:09:20,794
- That's not her.
- Yes, it is.
260
00:09:20,861 --> 00:09:22,129
- No, it's not.
261
00:09:22,196 --> 00:09:24,898
- Who is that?
- That's not her!
262
00:09:24,965 --> 00:09:26,433
- Those are the pics
she's saying that's her.
263
00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:28,035
- You mean
that's not the same girl
264
00:09:28,101 --> 00:09:29,503
in the other pictures?
- That's not the same girl.
265
00:09:29,570 --> 00:09:31,138
That girl is Latina.
266
00:09:31,205 --> 00:09:33,273
That's not her either.
- But, Kamie--
267
00:09:33,340 --> 00:09:34,741
- That's supposed to be her?
- Oh, yeah.
268
00:09:34,808 --> 00:09:36,210
You know, she just had a baby.
269
00:09:36,276 --> 00:09:38,212
So you know, your face kind
of swells up, you know?
270
00:09:38,278 --> 00:09:39,980
- So what about...
- Yeah, Kamie.
271
00:09:40,047 --> 00:09:41,248
- When did she transition
272
00:09:41,315 --> 00:09:43,517
from being a brown-skinned
Black girl
273
00:09:43,584 --> 00:09:44,985
to being Latina?
274
00:09:45,052 --> 00:09:47,120
- [laughs]
- Look, I'll be honest.
275
00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:50,023
When I got catfished,
it wasn't until after
276
00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:52,593
that I realized
that I had been sent pictures
277
00:09:52,659 --> 00:09:54,194
of two different girls.
278
00:09:54,261 --> 00:09:56,363
I was like, "Oh, yeah, maybe
these were older, whatever."
279
00:09:56,430 --> 00:09:58,565
So I can see how
your brain can...
280
00:09:58,632 --> 00:09:59,900
- Thank you.
281
00:09:59,967 --> 00:10:02,970
- Very easily, like,
make things make sense.
282
00:10:03,036 --> 00:10:05,539
Okay, overwhelmingly,
you still feel
283
00:10:05,606 --> 00:10:08,208
enough interest...
- Enough feeling, yeah.
284
00:10:08,275 --> 00:10:11,445
- And love for her that you
continue to want to press on
285
00:10:11,512 --> 00:10:12,946
and get through whatever
it is you have to get through.
286
00:10:13,013 --> 00:10:14,348
- Figure out the truth.
Figure out, like, who you are.
287
00:10:14,414 --> 00:10:15,549
- Right.
288
00:10:15,616 --> 00:10:17,050
- Like, who have I been
talking to?
289
00:10:17,117 --> 00:10:18,819
Who have I been telling
good night, good morning to
290
00:10:18,886 --> 00:10:20,187
every day?
- All right, so, look.
291
00:10:20,254 --> 00:10:21,855
Clearly we've got our work cut
out for us.
292
00:10:21,922 --> 00:10:22,956
- Mm.
293
00:10:23,023 --> 00:10:24,591
- Let us do some research.
294
00:10:24,658 --> 00:10:26,560
Send us an email
with everything you've got,
295
00:10:26,627 --> 00:10:28,529
and we'll have some, hopefully,
updates for you tomorrow.
296
00:10:28,595 --> 00:10:29,730
- Got ya.
297
00:10:29,796 --> 00:10:31,298
- All right, bring it in,
everyone.
298
00:10:31,365 --> 00:10:33,066
- The guardian angels are
in town.
299
00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:35,502
- Thank you, guys.
300
00:10:35,569 --> 00:10:37,137
Bye, y'all have a good one.
- It's fine.
301
00:10:37,204 --> 00:10:39,907
- Thanks, see you.
- [scoffs]
302
00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:41,642
Oh, boy.
303
00:10:41,708 --> 00:10:42,943
- This is...
304
00:10:43,010 --> 00:10:44,244
- Are you strapped in?
I need to...
305
00:10:44,311 --> 00:10:46,046
- Wow.
- Tighten this up.
306
00:10:46,113 --> 00:10:47,981
I mean, the three
different girls' pics?
307
00:10:48,048 --> 00:10:50,250
- We are dealing
with a major...
308
00:10:50,317 --> 00:10:52,052
- She's getting catfished.
- Something.
309
00:10:52,119 --> 00:10:54,288
This might be the most absurd,
310
00:10:54,354 --> 00:10:57,257
insane catfish situation
we've ever seen.
311
00:11:02,529 --> 00:11:03,564
- Ladies first.
312
00:11:03,630 --> 00:11:06,500
- Well, it's not a door.
- [laughs]
313
00:11:06,567 --> 00:11:08,435
- Look at this. This is lovely.
314
00:11:08,502 --> 00:11:10,237
- Oh, it has a heart.
315
00:11:10,304 --> 00:11:12,272
- Beautiful.
- Wow.
316
00:11:12,339 --> 00:11:14,007
Great way to start the morning.
317
00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:16,109
Now just put a little break
in the middle.
318
00:11:16,176 --> 00:11:18,345
[imitates cracking]
That's gonna be Angel.
319
00:11:18,412 --> 00:11:19,813
- All right.
320
00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,916
Angel recently moves
to San Antonio
321
00:11:22,983 --> 00:11:24,718
to help take care
of her grandparents,
322
00:11:24,785 --> 00:11:27,421
decides, you know,
I'm gonna get on a dating app.
323
00:11:27,487 --> 00:11:30,324
Day one, gets a message
from Sharon.
324
00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:31,391
They hit it off.
325
00:11:31,458 --> 00:11:33,093
Within weeks, they're in love.
326
00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,028
That's when the drama starts.
- Mm-hmm.
327
00:11:35,095 --> 00:11:38,532
- Turns out,
Sharon's hard to wrangle.
328
00:11:38,599 --> 00:11:41,168
She's not that far away,
but she can't meet up.
329
00:11:41,235 --> 00:11:43,971
When they were gonna meet up,
she slipped on glass
330
00:11:44,037 --> 00:11:45,439
and broke her foot.
331
00:11:45,506 --> 00:11:46,673
Why would she send a picture
332
00:11:46,740 --> 00:11:47,975
of a white person's foot?
- Yeah.
333
00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:49,543
- And then there was just
the whole drama
334
00:11:49,610 --> 00:11:51,044
with the ex, Lorenzo,
who's not even an ex yet.
335
00:11:51,111 --> 00:11:52,846
They're still
technically married...
336
00:11:52,913 --> 00:11:53,981
- And living together.
- And live together.
337
00:11:54,047 --> 00:11:55,249
- Mm-hmm.
338
00:11:55,315 --> 00:11:57,518
- She also
might be pregnant again.
339
00:11:57,584 --> 00:12:00,454
- Yeah, because
I don't believe any of it,
340
00:12:00,521 --> 00:12:02,956
it all just feels
malicious and mean.
341
00:12:03,023 --> 00:12:05,526
- Yeah, let's see
what Angel sent.
342
00:12:05,592 --> 00:12:06,960
"Hey, Nev and Kamie.
343
00:12:07,027 --> 00:12:09,363
Attached are some of the
pictures that Sharon sent me."
344
00:12:09,429 --> 00:12:12,900
Sharon's phone number
and Lorenzo's phone number.
345
00:12:12,966 --> 00:12:14,268
- Let's start
with the pictures.
346
00:12:14,334 --> 00:12:15,602
- All right.
347
00:12:15,669 --> 00:12:17,037
- Sharon's been using
multiple girls here,
348
00:12:17,104 --> 00:12:18,572
so let's get hunting.
349
00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:20,807
- Right. Should we start
with this one?
350
00:12:22,142 --> 00:12:24,845
Oh. Oh, God. We got hits.
351
00:12:24,912 --> 00:12:25,946
- Everywhere.
- Yeah.
352
00:12:26,013 --> 00:12:27,681
Tons of pictures
of this person.
353
00:12:27,748 --> 00:12:31,552
Let's see, who is she?
- Ella Washington. Boom.
354
00:12:31,618 --> 00:12:33,687
- Okay, so we found her, easy.
355
00:12:33,754 --> 00:12:36,056
- Definitely not Sharon.
356
00:12:36,123 --> 00:12:37,524
One down.
- Yeah.
357
00:12:37,591 --> 00:12:38,892
- 20 more to go.
358
00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:40,394
- Let's try
a different picture.
359
00:12:40,460 --> 00:12:42,696
- That's not the same girl.
360
00:12:42,763 --> 00:12:44,598
That girl is, like,
Colombian or something.
361
00:12:44,665 --> 00:12:45,766
That girl is Black,
362
00:12:45,832 --> 00:12:47,801
- This girl is not
the same either.
363
00:12:47,868 --> 00:12:49,636
- I don't think so.
- Okay, what do we got?
364
00:12:49,703 --> 00:12:51,271
Whoa, okay.
365
00:12:51,338 --> 00:12:53,674
Martina Vasquez.
366
00:12:53,740 --> 00:12:54,741
Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing,
bing, bing.
367
00:12:54,808 --> 00:12:56,243
- Mm-hmm. I mean...
368
00:12:56,310 --> 00:12:57,611
- Wow.
369
00:12:57,678 --> 00:12:59,112
- Look at the main title.
- Yeah.
370
00:12:59,179 --> 00:13:02,015
- "Beautiful Latinas
on Insta."
371
00:13:02,082 --> 00:13:04,017
Latina.
372
00:13:04,084 --> 00:13:05,352
Okay, next.
373
00:13:05,419 --> 00:13:06,687
- Okay, it looks like
we got a hit.
374
00:13:06,753 --> 00:13:08,922
- Look, you can see the whole
shot of her.
375
00:13:08,989 --> 00:13:12,659
- Oh. That's something.
- Mm, mm.
376
00:13:12,726 --> 00:13:14,595
It's a third girl.
377
00:13:14,661 --> 00:13:16,897
- She's crazy.
- Yeah.
378
00:13:16,964 --> 00:13:19,700
- All right, so we got
to search this cast photo.
379
00:13:19,766 --> 00:13:22,936
I'm dying to see
if it comes up.
380
00:13:23,003 --> 00:13:24,805
Oh--[scoffs]
- [gasps]
381
00:13:24,872 --> 00:13:26,907
- Unbelievable.
It comes up everywhere.
382
00:13:26,974 --> 00:13:28,742
- Everywhere.
- Wow.
383
00:13:28,809 --> 00:13:31,678
This proves every photo
sent to Angel,
384
00:13:31,745 --> 00:13:34,648
including the one
of her "broken foot,"
385
00:13:34,715 --> 00:13:37,551
is just from Pinterest
or Google or whatever.
386
00:13:37,618 --> 00:13:38,919
- Right.
387
00:13:38,986 --> 00:13:41,121
- What possible explanation
would you have
388
00:13:41,188 --> 00:13:43,423
to send different photos
of different girls
389
00:13:43,490 --> 00:13:46,093
rather than just downloading
ten pictures of the same girl
390
00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:47,394
and sending those?
391
00:13:47,461 --> 00:13:48,962
All right, so let's go back
to the email.
392
00:13:49,029 --> 00:13:50,564
Let's get the phone number now
and see if we can figure out
393
00:13:50,631 --> 00:13:52,933
who the hell
Sharon actually is.
394
00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,370
All right, search by phone.
395
00:13:56,436 --> 00:13:59,106
Enter the number. Search.
396
00:13:59,173 --> 00:14:01,608
- Wow, there's no name?
397
00:14:01,675 --> 00:14:03,644
Why does it say
"high search volume"?
398
00:14:03,710 --> 00:14:04,945
- What?
399
00:14:05,012 --> 00:14:06,647
- I've never seen that before.
400
00:14:06,713 --> 00:14:08,749
- That's weird. You're right.
I've never seen that either.
401
00:14:08,815 --> 00:14:10,350
- What does that mean?
402
00:14:10,417 --> 00:14:12,619
- Like, a lot of people
are searching this number?
403
00:14:12,686 --> 00:14:14,054
Arkansas.
404
00:14:14,121 --> 00:14:16,290
Why does she have
an Arkansas phone number?
405
00:14:16,356 --> 00:14:19,159
- But it's a mobile number.
- It is a mobile number.
406
00:14:19,226 --> 00:14:21,762
We should look up
Lorenzo's phone number.
407
00:14:21,828 --> 00:14:24,198
I'm willing to bet
that Sharon and Lorenzo
408
00:14:24,264 --> 00:14:27,534
are the same person.
- It's one big, grand lie.
409
00:14:27,601 --> 00:14:30,137
- Okay, potential owner.
- Texas.
410
00:14:30,204 --> 00:14:31,438
- Oh, this says
it's a landline.
411
00:14:31,505 --> 00:14:33,006
- But it came back as Texas.
412
00:14:33,073 --> 00:14:35,075
- Okay, so it's at least
a Texas area code.
413
00:14:35,142 --> 00:14:37,911
But it looks like it's probably
just a text app number.
414
00:14:37,978 --> 00:14:40,080
- I think--yeah.
- Right.
415
00:14:40,147 --> 00:14:42,115
Because she didn't talk
to him on the phone.
416
00:14:42,182 --> 00:14:43,984
He just texted her, right?
- Mm-hmm.
417
00:14:44,051 --> 00:14:46,086
- All right, hold on. You know
what we haven't done yet?
418
00:14:46,153 --> 00:14:47,221
Cash App.
419
00:14:47,287 --> 00:14:50,457
All right, let's go
to Cash App.
420
00:14:50,524 --> 00:14:52,292
She's got one.
- RuKiya?
421
00:14:52,359 --> 00:14:55,195
- RuKiya, so not Sharon.
422
00:14:55,262 --> 00:14:56,630
Not even kind of Sharon.
423
00:14:56,697 --> 00:14:58,465
- Not even kind of any
of the people that came up.
424
00:14:58,532 --> 00:15:02,236
- All right, let's look up
her Cash App username.
425
00:15:02,302 --> 00:15:05,105
LovelyKi499.
426
00:15:05,172 --> 00:15:06,807
She probably uses that...
- She does.
427
00:15:06,874 --> 00:15:08,408
- Somewhere else.
428
00:15:08,475 --> 00:15:13,647
LovelyKi499.
429
00:15:13,714 --> 00:15:15,616
- Hmm.
- That's got to be her.
430
00:15:15,682 --> 00:15:17,484
- Wow.
- What is this?
431
00:15:17,551 --> 00:15:19,653
- Two kids. [gasps]
432
00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,589
- I feel like the fact
that her username
433
00:15:22,656 --> 00:15:26,960
is LovelyKi49, and then
on Cash App it's LovelyKi499,
434
00:15:27,027 --> 00:15:28,595
it's, like, pretty close.
435
00:15:28,662 --> 00:15:30,597
- Did it say RuKiya
in the name?
436
00:15:30,664 --> 00:15:32,366
- Up here? No.
- Mm-hmm.
437
00:15:32,432 --> 00:15:36,036
- It doesn't, but I wonder
if she's following Angel.
438
00:15:36,103 --> 00:15:38,071
No, she's not following her.
439
00:15:38,138 --> 00:15:40,741
But I think
this could be Sharon.
440
00:15:40,807 --> 00:15:43,277
- I mean,
it's not an exact match.
441
00:15:43,343 --> 00:15:44,811
- It's pretty close.
442
00:15:44,878 --> 00:15:48,215
But the Cash App, to me, feels
like a solid clue.
443
00:15:48,282 --> 00:15:51,385
RuKiya is a liar.
- RuKiya's a liar.
444
00:15:51,451 --> 00:15:52,920
I'm exhausted by this.
445
00:15:52,986 --> 00:15:55,756
The fact that Angel
is not exhausted by this
446
00:15:55,822 --> 00:15:58,258
is baffling to me.
447
00:15:58,325 --> 00:16:00,227
- Yeah, she's enraptured.
448
00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:08,435
- All right, so we've got
a lot to talk about with Angel.
449
00:16:08,502 --> 00:16:10,170
What do we got?
We know that Sharon--
450
00:16:10,237 --> 00:16:11,738
she's not the girl
in the pictures.
451
00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:13,807
- And we've confirmed,
she's three different women.
452
00:16:13,874 --> 00:16:16,944
- Right. Phone number
comes back on Cash App
453
00:16:17,010 --> 00:16:19,613
to RuKiya or Kiya.
- Mm-hmm.
454
00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,181
- It'd be one thing
to find that the pictures
455
00:16:21,248 --> 00:16:22,549
were just of a different girl,
456
00:16:22,616 --> 00:16:24,351
but the fact that they're
all of different girls.
457
00:16:24,418 --> 00:16:26,320
The foot's not her foot.
458
00:16:26,386 --> 00:16:29,957
I mean, nothing.
- It's so wildly disrespectful.
459
00:16:30,023 --> 00:16:32,259
- All right.
460
00:16:32,326 --> 00:16:35,362
Ready? Let's go.
[car bell chimes]
461
00:16:35,429 --> 00:16:38,866
[dramatic music]
462
00:16:38,932 --> 00:16:41,301
Hello.
- Hi.
463
00:16:41,368 --> 00:16:42,703
- Wow.
- You look great.
464
00:16:42,769 --> 00:16:46,106
- Thank you, thank you.
- All right, have a seat.
465
00:16:46,173 --> 00:16:47,875
- All right.
- How you feeling today?
466
00:16:47,941 --> 00:16:50,344
- I'm anxious. I'm nervous.
467
00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:52,346
- All right, well,
should we just get into it?
468
00:16:52,412 --> 00:16:54,047
We'll walk you
through our process
469
00:16:54,114 --> 00:16:55,282
- Whoo! Yeah.
470
00:16:55,349 --> 00:16:56,984
- You ready?
- Yes.
471
00:16:57,050 --> 00:16:59,453
- First thing we did
was we just ran the photos.
472
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,423
Okay, now, this one
is one of the hits we got,
473
00:17:03,490 --> 00:17:06,126
where it's very clear
that this is a Latina.
474
00:17:06,193 --> 00:17:07,394
- Mm-hmm.
475
00:17:07,461 --> 00:17:09,730
- So then
when we searched this picture,
476
00:17:09,796 --> 00:17:13,367
the main pic you have of her,
we got some more hits.
477
00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:16,403
Sure enough,
here is an Instagram account
478
00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:19,273
for the girl,
but her name's not Sharon.
479
00:17:19,339 --> 00:17:22,976
This person,
her name is Ella Washington.
480
00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:26,213
♪♪ ♪♪
481
00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,849
- As you can see,
there's plenty of pictures
482
00:17:28,916 --> 00:17:31,385
of this girl on Insta.
483
00:17:31,451 --> 00:17:33,921
Then we even found
a third girl.
484
00:17:33,987 --> 00:17:36,890
So, if the person
that you're talking to
485
00:17:36,957 --> 00:17:40,160
is sending you pictures
of a bunch of different people,
486
00:17:40,227 --> 00:17:41,695
it's kind of [bleep] up
487
00:17:41,762 --> 00:17:43,964
because they're not even doing
a good job
488
00:17:44,031 --> 00:17:46,767
at trying to prove that
they're one particular person.
489
00:17:46,834 --> 00:17:49,870
- That's it.
[sighs, groans]
490
00:17:49,937 --> 00:17:54,274
Why even go to, like, this
extent to even fool somebody?
491
00:17:54,341 --> 00:17:56,243
Like, and then for me
to open up to you
492
00:17:56,310 --> 00:17:57,878
and tell you certain things--
493
00:17:57,945 --> 00:17:59,413
like, you shouldn't play with
somebody who's dealt with a lot
494
00:17:59,479 --> 00:18:00,814
and been through a lot--
like, you don't do that.
495
00:18:00,881 --> 00:18:02,516
That's [bleep] up
in so many ways.
496
00:18:02,583 --> 00:18:04,618
- Right, I mean,
you guys connected
497
00:18:04,685 --> 00:18:08,121
because of a shared trauma
and negative experiences
498
00:18:08,188 --> 00:18:09,556
in your lives.
- [grunts] Yeah.
499
00:18:09,623 --> 00:18:11,558
- And then to just keep
sending you pictures
500
00:18:11,625 --> 00:18:13,293
of different girls--
it's insulting,
501
00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:15,229
and it's [bleep] up.
- It really is.
502
00:18:15,295 --> 00:18:16,530
People are [bleep] up.
503
00:18:16,597 --> 00:18:18,432
[somber music]
504
00:18:18,498 --> 00:18:19,833
- Well,
it doesn't even stop there,
505
00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:21,435
because we thought, "Okay,
if she's not the girl
506
00:18:21,502 --> 00:18:23,003
"in the pictures,
507
00:18:23,070 --> 00:18:25,372
surely she must be the girl
with the broken foot, right?"
508
00:18:25,439 --> 00:18:26,507
'Cause why would
she send you a picture
509
00:18:26,573 --> 00:18:28,175
of a white person's foot,
all right?
510
00:18:28,242 --> 00:18:32,179
So we Googled the foot picture,
and guess what.
511
00:18:32,246 --> 00:18:34,481
It's just a picture
off the Internet.
512
00:18:34,548 --> 00:18:36,416
- Oh, God.
- Not even her broken foot,
513
00:18:36,483 --> 00:18:38,552
which means she probably
didn't break her foot.
514
00:18:38,619 --> 00:18:40,954
So that's bull[bleep].
515
00:18:41,021 --> 00:18:45,092
♪♪ ♪♪
516
00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:47,561
- Are you okay?
517
00:18:47,628 --> 00:18:49,396
- It's, like, tears of anger.
518
00:18:49,463 --> 00:18:52,599
Oh, man.
[sniffles]
519
00:18:52,666 --> 00:18:55,269
So what else did you find?
[scoffs]
520
00:18:55,335 --> 00:18:58,105
- Oh, we moved on
to the phone numbers.
521
00:18:58,172 --> 00:19:00,541
Initially,
we didn't find anything.
522
00:19:00,607 --> 00:19:02,709
But the first thing that popped
up that was interesting
523
00:19:02,776 --> 00:19:04,478
was that the area code
for the number you have for her
524
00:19:04,545 --> 00:19:06,880
is for Arkansas--
Fort Smith, Arkansas.
525
00:19:06,947 --> 00:19:08,348
Has she ever talked
about Arkansas?
526
00:19:08,415 --> 00:19:09,616
- Mm-mm.
527
00:19:09,683 --> 00:19:11,318
- Okay, so that's just
kind of weird
528
00:19:11,385 --> 00:19:12,819
that it's an Arkansas number.
529
00:19:12,886 --> 00:19:16,156
Then we ran Lorenzo's number.
- Mm-hmm.
530
00:19:16,223 --> 00:19:19,693
And that came up pretty much
looking like a text app number
531
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,062
'cause it shows up
as a landline.
532
00:19:22,129 --> 00:19:23,897
Then we went to Cash App,
533
00:19:23,964 --> 00:19:26,333
and when we searched
Sharon's number
534
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,468
and went to, like,
send her payment,
535
00:19:28,535 --> 00:19:30,838
this came up.
- RuKiya?
536
00:19:30,904 --> 00:19:33,006
- RuKiya, RuKaya.
537
00:19:33,073 --> 00:19:34,408
But not Sharon.
538
00:19:34,474 --> 00:19:37,277
Do you know someone who goes
by Kiya or Kaya?
539
00:19:37,344 --> 00:19:39,313
- Not in my personal life, no.
540
00:19:39,379 --> 00:19:41,048
- All right, okay.
541
00:19:41,114 --> 00:19:43,450
So then we started searching
for RuKiya.
542
00:19:43,517 --> 00:19:46,153
The closest we got
to this username,
543
00:19:46,220 --> 00:19:48,622
LovelyKy499, was this account,
544
00:19:48,689 --> 00:19:50,757
which is LovelyKi49.
545
00:19:50,824 --> 00:19:52,526
Seemed pretty similar.
- Mm-hmm.
546
00:19:52,593 --> 00:19:54,862
- You don't know this person,
do you?
547
00:19:54,928 --> 00:19:56,263
- No.
548
00:19:56,330 --> 00:19:57,865
- We checked to see
if they were following you,
549
00:19:57,931 --> 00:19:59,800
and they're not.
- We don't know if this is her.
550
00:19:59,867 --> 00:20:03,337
But this was the closest we got
to sort of using her name
551
00:20:03,403 --> 00:20:07,007
or sort of username or Cash App
name to find someone.
552
00:20:07,074 --> 00:20:08,442
But we don't know
where this person is,
553
00:20:08,509 --> 00:20:09,910
and it doesn't have
their name on it,
554
00:20:09,977 --> 00:20:12,412
so, like, we couldn't find her
anywhere else.
555
00:20:12,479 --> 00:20:13,480
So here's where we are,
556
00:20:13,547 --> 00:20:15,048
which is kind of
a confusing spot.
557
00:20:15,115 --> 00:20:17,684
Look, we know, unfortunately...
- She's not a real person.
558
00:20:17,751 --> 00:20:20,320
- Well, we know that a lot
of what Sharon has told you,
559
00:20:20,387 --> 00:20:24,024
or at least shown you,
is false.
560
00:20:24,091 --> 00:20:27,027
♪♪ ♪♪
561
00:20:27,094 --> 00:20:29,363
- Got to be really [bleep] up
to play with somebody's mind
562
00:20:29,429 --> 00:20:30,898
who's been through
so much, like...
563
00:20:30,964 --> 00:20:34,067
- ♪♪ Feel myself sinking ♪♪
564
00:20:34,134 --> 00:20:35,569
- Oh, man.
565
00:20:35,636 --> 00:20:37,504
I don't like being played with.
566
00:20:37,571 --> 00:20:39,573
♪♪ ♪♪
567
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,009
- ♪♪ Feel it dragging me down ♪♪
568
00:20:42,075 --> 00:20:44,044
- She knows
I've been addicted to drugs.
569
00:20:44,111 --> 00:20:46,513
She knows that, mentally,
570
00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:48,849
like, when you do play
with my emotions and stuff,
571
00:20:48,916 --> 00:20:51,685
like, I have gone to the point
of, like, relapsing.
572
00:20:51,752 --> 00:20:53,487
And so you know that,
573
00:20:53,554 --> 00:20:55,088
and you know the extent
and the reason
574
00:20:55,155 --> 00:20:56,223
why I did that [bleep],
575
00:20:56,290 --> 00:20:58,692
so for you
to keep playing with me,
576
00:20:58,759 --> 00:21:00,460
you're a very sick person.
577
00:21:00,527 --> 00:21:02,129
You're very sick for that.
578
00:21:02,196 --> 00:21:04,865
- ♪♪ I don't want to feel
anything ♪♪
579
00:21:04,932 --> 00:21:06,366
♪♪ ♪♪
580
00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:08,335
- [scoffs]
581
00:21:08,402 --> 00:21:10,537
Like, I--yeah.
582
00:21:10,604 --> 00:21:12,573
I'm lost for words, really.
583
00:21:12,639 --> 00:21:16,677
♪♪ ♪♪
584
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:24,751
- I mean, look, at this point,
585
00:21:24,818 --> 00:21:27,721
where are you at with kind of
how you're feeling towards--
586
00:21:27,788 --> 00:21:29,523
- I want to find out who it is.
587
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:32,092
Like, I want to find out, why
go to the length that you did
588
00:21:32,159 --> 00:21:35,395
to lie to somebody who you know
has been through so much
589
00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:37,130
and has given you the benefit
of the doubt
590
00:21:37,197 --> 00:21:38,966
time after time after time?
591
00:21:39,032 --> 00:21:40,901
- Like, these things,
they're made-up stories.
592
00:21:40,968 --> 00:21:43,437
She's just making [bleep] up.
593
00:21:43,504 --> 00:21:46,607
- Using them to talk to you
or take advantage of you
594
00:21:46,673 --> 00:21:49,142
or whatever it is that
she's trying to do with you.
595
00:21:49,209 --> 00:21:51,011
- Yeah,
I say call her, find out.
596
00:21:51,078 --> 00:21:53,313
[dramatic music]
597
00:21:53,380 --> 00:21:54,581
- All right.
598
00:21:54,648 --> 00:21:57,050
Well, here goes nothing.
599
00:21:57,117 --> 00:21:58,919
[line trilling]
600
00:21:58,986 --> 00:22:00,153
- [whispering] Are you
gonna say RuKiya?
601
00:22:00,220 --> 00:22:02,322
- [whispering] I don't know.
- RuKiya.
602
00:22:05,726 --> 00:22:08,428
- [normal voice]
Hi, there. Is this Sharon?
603
00:22:10,030 --> 00:22:11,064
I don't know
if you're familiar
604
00:22:11,131 --> 00:22:13,267
with the television show
"Catfish."
605
00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:16,436
But this is Nev from the show.
606
00:22:16,503 --> 00:22:18,338
And I'm calling
because I would love
607
00:22:18,405 --> 00:22:21,642
to see if I could talk to you
a little bit about Angel.
608
00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:28,182
Cool, I know
that you and Angel
609
00:22:28,248 --> 00:22:29,950
have been talking now
for a few months.
610
00:22:30,017 --> 00:22:32,553
And I was just curious
where you are
611
00:22:32,619 --> 00:22:35,088
with the idea of finally,
you know, meeting up,
612
00:22:35,155 --> 00:22:37,558
since we can help make
that arrangement.
613
00:22:44,298 --> 00:22:47,134
Okay. Well, I'm very happy
to hear that.
614
00:22:47,201 --> 00:22:48,535
I'm a little surprised,
615
00:22:48,602 --> 00:22:51,138
'cause Angel told us
that she's currently blocked.
616
00:22:58,478 --> 00:22:59,580
Okay.
617
00:23:01,682 --> 00:23:04,051
Okay. Where are you?
618
00:23:06,820 --> 00:23:08,455
Oh, okay.
619
00:23:08,522 --> 00:23:11,291
Well, we should be able to
travel there tomorrow morning
620
00:23:11,358 --> 00:23:14,061
and potentially meet you
in the afternoon.
621
00:23:16,063 --> 00:23:17,764
And you can give me, like,
a location
622
00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:20,467
to meet up and stuff?
623
00:23:20,534 --> 00:23:24,104
Okay, we will see you
in Tulsa tomorrow.
624
00:23:27,007 --> 00:23:28,976
Great. Thanks.
625
00:23:29,042 --> 00:23:31,512
Bye.
626
00:23:31,578 --> 00:23:33,747
- Tulsa?
627
00:23:33,814 --> 00:23:35,916
Tulsa? That's--
628
00:23:35,983 --> 00:23:38,819
Bro. Come on, now, man.
629
00:23:38,886 --> 00:23:40,287
- Was that too easy?
630
00:23:40,354 --> 00:23:43,023
- I don't appreciate how
relaxed she was on that phone.
631
00:23:43,090 --> 00:23:44,391
- Yeah. All right, well, look,
632
00:23:44,458 --> 00:23:46,827
why don't you take
the rest of the day,
633
00:23:46,894 --> 00:23:48,228
pack a bag,
634
00:23:48,295 --> 00:23:50,664
and we'll meet you
at the airport in the morning?
635
00:23:50,731 --> 00:23:52,399
- Okay.
636
00:23:52,466 --> 00:23:55,035
- All right,
well, let's get out of here.
637
00:23:55,102 --> 00:23:57,738
We got stuff to do.
638
00:23:57,804 --> 00:24:00,007
- Thank you.
639
00:24:00,073 --> 00:24:01,508
- And we will see you tomorrow.
640
00:24:01,575 --> 00:24:03,210
- All right.
- See you tomorrow.
641
00:24:03,277 --> 00:24:05,445
- Oh, Angel.
642
00:24:05,512 --> 00:24:08,515
- I really have no idea what
we're gonna be walking into,
643
00:24:08,582 --> 00:24:12,386
but I'm getting some
seriously bad vibes about this.
644
00:24:15,722 --> 00:24:17,558
- Hey!
- Oh.
645
00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:20,294
Hey!
- Hello.
646
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:24,698
We're coming!
- I'm almost there!
647
00:24:24,765 --> 00:24:25,966
- Ah!
648
00:24:26,033 --> 00:24:27,801
- We're really committing
to this.
649
00:24:27,868 --> 00:24:30,204
- We are!
[laughs]
650
00:24:30,270 --> 00:24:31,438
- Hello.
- Hey.
651
00:24:31,505 --> 00:24:32,639
- Good morning.
- All right.
652
00:24:32,706 --> 00:24:34,208
"Morning, Sharon.
We're at the airport.
653
00:24:34,274 --> 00:24:36,543
"All checked in
and ready to go.
654
00:24:36,610 --> 00:24:39,613
"Send us a time and place
to meet you later when you can.
655
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,114
See you soon. Cheers."
656
00:24:41,181 --> 00:24:42,950
- Cheers.
- Great.
657
00:24:43,016 --> 00:24:46,053
- All right, well, let's get
this Angel in the air.
658
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,321
- Yeah.
659
00:24:47,387 --> 00:24:48,822
- Yeah.
- Let's go.
660
00:24:48,889 --> 00:24:50,824
[upbeat music]
661
00:24:50,891 --> 00:24:53,961
- All right, here you go,
ladies--one for each of us.
662
00:24:54,027 --> 00:24:56,630
The fruit one's for me, though,
so don't even think about it.
663
00:24:56,697 --> 00:24:59,199
[cell phone chimes]
I just got a text.
664
00:25:00,767 --> 00:25:05,038
It's says, "Okay, could you
let me know when y'all land?"
665
00:25:05,105 --> 00:25:12,246
♪♪ ♪♪
666
00:25:17,417 --> 00:25:19,152
[cell phone chimes]
667
00:25:19,219 --> 00:25:20,654
Oh, oh.
668
00:25:20,721 --> 00:25:22,155
Oh, my God.
669
00:25:22,222 --> 00:25:24,358
[laughs]
670
00:25:24,424 --> 00:25:26,693
Oh, my God.
- Notification?
671
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,663
- It says, "I'm sorry,
but I'm not really in Tulsa."
672
00:25:29,730 --> 00:25:32,699
- Okay.
She is a pathological liar.
673
00:25:32,766 --> 00:25:33,867
[cell phone chimes]
674
00:25:33,934 --> 00:25:35,969
- Oh, she says,
"I'm in Arkansas."
675
00:25:36,036 --> 00:25:37,037
Okay, well, that's not far.
676
00:25:37,104 --> 00:25:38,305
That doesn't surprise me
either.
677
00:25:38,372 --> 00:25:39,506
Her phone number
is an Arkansas phone number.
678
00:25:39,573 --> 00:25:40,908
- Okay, but that's still
a far drive.
679
00:25:40,974 --> 00:25:42,776
- So why didn't she just say
that before we left?
680
00:25:42,843 --> 00:25:44,611
- Oh, she said,
"I'm in Fort Smith.
681
00:25:44,678 --> 00:25:48,115
I still want to do this,
I swear."
682
00:25:48,182 --> 00:25:50,951
"I need some assurance.
683
00:25:51,018 --> 00:25:55,389
Can you send a pin?"
- Mm-hmm.
684
00:25:55,455 --> 00:25:56,823
[cell phone chimes]
- Oh.
685
00:25:56,890 --> 00:25:58,258
All right,
well, she sent an address.
686
00:25:58,325 --> 00:25:59,860
- No, that's not a pin.
- It's not a pin.
687
00:25:59,927 --> 00:26:01,461
But it's an address.
688
00:26:01,528 --> 00:26:03,397
All right, we're taking
a little bit of a road trip.
689
00:26:03,463 --> 00:26:04,765
- All right, road trip.
690
00:26:04,831 --> 00:26:07,701
[upbeat music]
691
00:26:07,768 --> 00:26:11,004
♪♪ ♪♪
692
00:26:11,071 --> 00:26:13,173
- All right, we got...
693
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,043
- An hour left.
- Another hour left.
694
00:26:16,109 --> 00:26:17,578
- Feels like
we're on "Amazing Race."
695
00:26:17,644 --> 00:26:20,080
It's like, all right, you've
made it to this destination.
696
00:26:20,147 --> 00:26:22,783
Now collect your things 'cause
you're going somewhere else.
697
00:26:22,850 --> 00:26:24,084
- The next challenge.
698
00:26:24,151 --> 00:26:26,386
♪♪ ♪♪
699
00:26:26,453 --> 00:26:28,555
All right,
we made it to Arkansas.
700
00:26:28,622 --> 00:26:29,957
The girls are very excited.
701
00:26:31,925 --> 00:26:33,760
[laughter]
- [bleep].
702
00:26:33,827 --> 00:26:37,197
♪♪ ♪♪
703
00:26:37,264 --> 00:26:41,301
- All right, in Fort Smith.
We made it.
704
00:26:41,368 --> 00:26:42,903
- How are you feeling?
705
00:26:42,970 --> 00:26:45,038
- Anxious, nervous, excited.
706
00:26:45,105 --> 00:26:48,408
But I think more nervous
and anxious than anything.
707
00:26:48,475 --> 00:26:51,011
Definitely not getting
my hopes up.
708
00:26:51,078 --> 00:26:52,779
My expectations are very low.
709
00:26:52,846 --> 00:26:55,315
- I would just hope that
after all of this runaround,
710
00:26:55,382 --> 00:26:59,052
she would, at the very least,
711
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,854
show up.
712
00:27:00,921 --> 00:27:03,590
- Now, there is a house here.
All right.
713
00:27:03,657 --> 00:27:04,958
- Okay.
714
00:27:05,025 --> 00:27:07,194
- I guess this is it.
715
00:27:07,261 --> 00:27:09,363
All right, there are some cars.
716
00:27:09,429 --> 00:27:11,398
- Light's on.
- Light's on.
717
00:27:11,465 --> 00:27:14,034
- Yeah.
[car bell chimes]
718
00:27:14,101 --> 00:27:15,269
- Okay.
719
00:27:15,335 --> 00:27:17,604
[dramatic music]
720
00:27:17,671 --> 00:27:19,239
All right, here goes nothing.
721
00:27:19,306 --> 00:27:21,308
- Oh, Lord.
722
00:27:21,375 --> 00:27:24,211
[both chuckle]
723
00:27:24,278 --> 00:27:25,479
[creaking]
724
00:27:25,546 --> 00:27:28,081
- Do you hear something?
I hear a door.
725
00:27:28,148 --> 00:27:31,018
[door creaks]
Oh.
726
00:27:31,084 --> 00:27:34,788
♪♪ ♪♪
727
00:27:34,855 --> 00:27:36,356
Hi.
728
00:27:43,297 --> 00:27:45,899
[dramatic music]
729
00:27:45,966 --> 00:27:49,636
[door creaking]
730
00:27:49,703 --> 00:27:51,939
- Hi. What's up?
731
00:27:52,005 --> 00:27:55,609
- Hi.
- Looking for Sharon...
732
00:27:55,676 --> 00:27:56,944
or someone.
- Yeah.
733
00:27:57,010 --> 00:27:58,345
- Is that you?
- Sharon, yeah.
734
00:27:58,412 --> 00:27:59,713
- Hi. Nev.
- Hi.
735
00:27:59,780 --> 00:28:01,682
Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
736
00:28:01,748 --> 00:28:02,950
Why don't you come on out?
737
00:28:03,016 --> 00:28:04,117
- Do you know who that is?
738
00:28:04,184 --> 00:28:06,286
- No.
- I'll introduce you.
739
00:28:06,353 --> 00:28:07,754
- Hi.
- Hi.
740
00:28:07,821 --> 00:28:09,690
- Are you
who I've been texting?
741
00:28:09,756 --> 00:28:11,024
- Yeah.
742
00:28:11,091 --> 00:28:12,693
- And are you
who Angel's been talking to
743
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:14,494
this whole time?
- Yeah.
744
00:28:14,561 --> 00:28:16,029
- And what's your name?
745
00:28:16,096 --> 00:28:18,599
- Kiya.
- Do you also go by RuKaya?
746
00:28:18,665 --> 00:28:20,501
Or RuKiya?
- Yeah.
747
00:28:20,567 --> 00:28:23,237
- Okay, well, this is Kamie.
748
00:28:23,303 --> 00:28:24,505
- Hi.
749
00:28:24,571 --> 00:28:25,873
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you, too.
750
00:28:25,939 --> 00:28:27,140
- Nev. We didn't formally meet.
- Yeah.
751
00:28:27,207 --> 00:28:28,308
- Hello.
752
00:28:28,375 --> 00:28:30,077
- And this is Angel.
753
00:28:30,143 --> 00:28:33,580
- We're all, I think,
a little confused...
754
00:28:33,647 --> 00:28:35,983
and annoyed...
- Yeah.
755
00:28:36,049 --> 00:28:38,886
- About what's been going on
and trying to figure out
756
00:28:38,952 --> 00:28:42,489
why this has all
gone down like this.
757
00:28:42,556 --> 00:28:43,991
- Um...
758
00:28:44,057 --> 00:28:47,594
I mean, I came out
and told you everything, Angel.
759
00:28:47,661 --> 00:28:49,229
You've known everything
760
00:28:49,296 --> 00:28:52,432
when you reached out
to "Catfish."
761
00:28:52,499 --> 00:28:54,301
- I came out and told you
the whole truth.
762
00:28:54,368 --> 00:28:56,236
- You told me what you wanted
to tell me.
763
00:28:56,303 --> 00:28:59,006
Doesn't mean I believe it.
- So wait a second.
764
00:28:59,072 --> 00:29:01,074
What did she tell you already?
765
00:29:01,141 --> 00:29:03,377
- When I reached out
to the show, she came clean.
766
00:29:03,443 --> 00:29:06,480
She was like, "I haven't been
saying who I was saying I was."
767
00:29:06,547 --> 00:29:09,616
I said, "Okay. I don't believe
anything that you say.
768
00:29:09,683 --> 00:29:10,918
"And you can't get mad at me
769
00:29:10,984 --> 00:29:12,352
"for not believing anything
that you say.
770
00:29:12,419 --> 00:29:14,221
You can't get mad that
I reached out to the show."
771
00:29:14,288 --> 00:29:15,989
- Hold on, I'm confused.
- I'm very confused.
772
00:29:16,056 --> 00:29:19,393
- When you guys met,
it was on a dating site?
773
00:29:19,459 --> 00:29:21,628
- Yes, and it was
the real picture of me.
774
00:29:21,695 --> 00:29:22,963
- Okay.
775
00:29:23,030 --> 00:29:24,932
- I just had one picture
of myself on there.
776
00:29:24,998 --> 00:29:26,366
- Is that true?
777
00:29:26,433 --> 00:29:27,734
- She had one picture,
and I said,
778
00:29:27,801 --> 00:29:29,336
"What's up with the picture?
Why is it blurry?"
779
00:29:29,403 --> 00:29:31,205
- Okay.
- So she sent me three more.
780
00:29:31,271 --> 00:29:32,973
- Of the three different girls?
781
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,575
- Yeah.
- This is ridiculous.
782
00:29:34,641 --> 00:29:35,909
- So who--
- When we...
783
00:29:35,976 --> 00:29:38,011
- This is ridiculous.
- Showed you the Cash App
784
00:29:38,078 --> 00:29:39,780
with RuKiya's name,
you didn't say anything.
785
00:29:39,847 --> 00:29:41,148
- It wasn't like that.
786
00:29:41,215 --> 00:29:42,583
- 'Cause she didn't tell me
that was her name.
787
00:29:42,649 --> 00:29:45,185
- We even FaceTimed before.
- Wait a second, hold on.
788
00:29:45,252 --> 00:29:47,955
Did you FaceTime with her?
789
00:29:48,021 --> 00:29:49,756
- Yeah. Yeah.
- No!
790
00:29:49,823 --> 00:29:51,458
- How is there
a misunderstanding?
791
00:29:51,525 --> 00:29:53,827
- She FaceTimed me,
but I never saw her face.
792
00:29:53,894 --> 00:29:55,362
- That's why I said
it was too dark.
793
00:29:55,429 --> 00:29:56,964
- It was dark. It was black.
- She couldn't see my face.
794
00:29:57,030 --> 00:29:58,465
- Is that because
you were hiding it?
795
00:29:58,532 --> 00:30:00,067
'Cause you sent her
three different pictures.
796
00:30:00,133 --> 00:30:01,468
- Yeah.
- Oh, boy.
797
00:30:01,535 --> 00:30:04,338
So what about the other day
when we called you
798
00:30:04,404 --> 00:30:07,107
and Nev said I'm calling
to speak to Sharon?
799
00:30:07,174 --> 00:30:09,643
You said that was you,
instead of just saying,
800
00:30:09,710 --> 00:30:11,812
"No, this is Kiya."
Why didn't you just do that?
801
00:30:11,879 --> 00:30:14,014
- I guess I just--I don't know.
It was--
802
00:30:14,081 --> 00:30:15,949
When she called "Catfish,"
I mean,
803
00:30:16,016 --> 00:30:18,285
it did scare me at first.
804
00:30:18,352 --> 00:30:20,487
Like, you know,
it put me in a panic.
805
00:30:20,554 --> 00:30:22,256
- I'm not even sure
what to believe anymore.
806
00:30:22,322 --> 00:30:24,091
- I didn't want to do
all of this.
807
00:30:24,157 --> 00:30:25,425
- But you kept the lies on.
808
00:30:25,492 --> 00:30:28,061
- I'm not gonna do this,
809
00:30:28,128 --> 00:30:30,464
because she's not being honest
with you guys.
810
00:30:30,531 --> 00:30:32,099
- Don't come here and act--
- I'm not doing this.
811
00:30:32,165 --> 00:30:33,734
Goodbye.
- Why the [bleep]--bye.
812
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,236
- Goodbye. I'm not doing
this [bleep].
813
00:30:38,338 --> 00:30:40,874
- Let me just see
if I can talk to her.
814
00:30:41,575 --> 00:30:48,515
♪♪ ♪♪
815
00:30:48,582 --> 00:30:50,317
- Hi.
- Hey.
816
00:30:50,384 --> 00:30:53,053
- [stammers]
I don't know what's going on.
817
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,088
I don't know if you think
we know what's going on,
818
00:30:55,155 --> 00:30:56,990
but we don't.
- I know you don't.
819
00:30:57,057 --> 00:30:59,793
- Okay, so I'm just trying
to figure this all out.
820
00:30:59,860 --> 00:31:03,597
- Okay, so
I made the POF account,
821
00:31:03,664 --> 00:31:05,566
I mean, out of boredom, okay?
822
00:31:05,632 --> 00:31:08,068
- Sure. But it was for you.
823
00:31:08,135 --> 00:31:11,138
- It was me. It wasn't
a fake account or anything.
824
00:31:11,205 --> 00:31:13,407
I mean, I just didn't use
my real name.
825
00:31:13,473 --> 00:31:14,875
- Okay.
826
00:31:14,942 --> 00:31:16,143
- I mean, a lot of people
don't use their real names...
827
00:31:16,210 --> 00:31:17,644
- Or location.
- On those kinds--
828
00:31:17,711 --> 00:31:18,779
Yeah, or location.
829
00:31:18,846 --> 00:31:20,714
- So she tried--
I'm not gonna lie,
830
00:31:20,781 --> 00:31:22,382
she did try to come clean,
831
00:31:22,449 --> 00:31:24,651
but she's never told me
her name.
832
00:31:24,718 --> 00:31:27,487
- But the lie was continuing
when we called her on the phone
833
00:31:27,554 --> 00:31:29,756
and she said that she was
in Tulsa, her name was Sharon.
834
00:31:29,823 --> 00:31:33,026
Like, that could've also been
another opportunity
835
00:31:33,093 --> 00:31:36,496
to be honest and say,
"I'm not Sharon."
836
00:31:36,563 --> 00:31:37,865
- That's what I'm saying.
837
00:31:37,931 --> 00:31:39,399
Like, you can't tell me
that I know everything
838
00:31:39,466 --> 00:31:41,235
if you've been telling me
a lie from the jump.
839
00:31:41,301 --> 00:31:43,103
That's what I've been trying
to get her to understand.
840
00:31:43,170 --> 00:31:45,305
- So my insecurities...
841
00:31:45,372 --> 00:31:47,908
I started making up things
about myself.
842
00:31:47,975 --> 00:31:49,109
- Okay.
843
00:31:49,176 --> 00:31:51,445
- I told her
that I was a stripper.
844
00:31:51,512 --> 00:31:55,849
I told her that I had
a husband named Lorenzo.
845
00:31:55,916 --> 00:31:57,150
- And then you sent her--
846
00:31:57,217 --> 00:31:58,919
eventually you did send
her a picture
847
00:31:58,986 --> 00:32:01,088
of other women.
- Yes.
848
00:32:01,154 --> 00:32:03,290
- I honestly can't--
I don't know what to believe
849
00:32:03,357 --> 00:32:05,492
because she lied so easily
over the phone,
850
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,261
and it's hard for me
to come back from that,
851
00:32:07,327 --> 00:32:08,962
so I'm trying
to hear her out also.
852
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:12,633
But it is difficult for me.
853
00:32:12,699 --> 00:32:15,836
I mean,
hopefully she comes back out.
854
00:32:15,903 --> 00:32:19,306
- Why then have us fly
to Tulsa?
855
00:32:19,373 --> 00:32:21,942
Say you're in Tulsa
when you're not?
856
00:32:22,009 --> 00:32:24,244
- I guess I just needed time.
857
00:32:24,311 --> 00:32:27,648
Everything was just happening
all at once.
858
00:32:27,714 --> 00:32:30,117
- Well, I think she just didn't
tell us everything
859
00:32:30,184 --> 00:32:31,818
because she wasn't sure
if she should
860
00:32:31,885 --> 00:32:33,687
because she didn't know
if it was true or not.
861
00:32:33,754 --> 00:32:35,122
- Uh-huh.
862
00:32:35,189 --> 00:32:36,490
- So she feels like
you're calling her a liar,
863
00:32:36,557 --> 00:32:38,458
when, for the most part,
in this situation,
864
00:32:38,525 --> 00:32:39,860
you're the one
who's been lying.
865
00:32:39,927 --> 00:32:41,562
- Mm-hmm.
866
00:32:41,628 --> 00:32:43,764
- Hey, guys.
867
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:46,033
So, if you're willing,
868
00:32:46,099 --> 00:32:48,335
I think we have
a more neutral territory.
869
00:32:48,402 --> 00:32:49,803
- Yeah, that's where we're at.
870
00:32:49,870 --> 00:32:51,538
- If you want to
come back outside?
871
00:32:51,605 --> 00:32:53,607
- Yeah, I do.
- Let's all go back outside.
872
00:32:53,674 --> 00:32:55,542
- But nobody's stepping
to anybody.
873
00:32:55,609 --> 00:32:57,377
Everybody's gonna be...
- Okay.
874
00:32:57,444 --> 00:32:59,913
- Relaxed.
- I apologize for that.
875
00:32:59,980 --> 00:33:02,983
[dramatic music]
876
00:33:03,050 --> 00:33:10,123
♪♪ ♪♪
877
00:33:10,190 --> 00:33:13,560
- Okay, there's obviously
some crossed wires here.
878
00:33:13,627 --> 00:33:15,629
Let's just go
down the checklist
879
00:33:15,696 --> 00:33:18,098
just to make sure
you are fully aware
880
00:33:18,165 --> 00:33:21,602
of what is and isn't true.
881
00:33:21,668 --> 00:33:24,505
You live in Arkansas
and only Arkansas.
882
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,141
You have two children.
- Yes.
883
00:33:28,208 --> 00:33:29,710
- Are you pregnant now?
- No.
884
00:33:29,776 --> 00:33:31,011
- No.
- That was--
885
00:33:31,078 --> 00:33:33,013
- You didn't break your foot.
- No.
886
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,916
- You're not married.
- No.
887
00:33:35,983 --> 00:33:37,818
- No.
- Right, substance abuse.
888
00:33:37,885 --> 00:33:39,486
- No, no.
- Mm.
889
00:33:39,553 --> 00:33:41,688
- But you did tell her that
that was something
890
00:33:41,755 --> 00:33:43,123
you had struggled with.
891
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:44,858
- Mm-hmm. You know I was
a drug addict, though, right?
892
00:33:44,925 --> 00:33:47,294
- I know all of that.
- So why tell me that lie?
893
00:33:47,361 --> 00:33:48,829
- I don't know.
I can't answer that.
894
00:33:48,896 --> 00:33:50,163
- Okay.
895
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:51,798
- Like, coming
from a former drug--
896
00:33:51,865 --> 00:33:53,433
- Okay, Angel, I'm sorry.
897
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,269
- All right,
if you just gonna cut me off.
898
00:33:55,335 --> 00:33:56,837
Like, first off--
- I always listen to you.
899
00:33:56,904 --> 00:33:58,906
That's why you're blocked.
- I know, but look--
900
00:33:58,972 --> 00:34:01,742
- I'm always listening to her.
- Okay, but don't cut me off.
901
00:34:01,808 --> 00:34:04,244
When I'm a recovering
drug addict, dude,
902
00:34:04,311 --> 00:34:05,512
you don't lie about that.
903
00:34:05,579 --> 00:34:07,114
- Are you gonna still raise
your voice?
904
00:34:07,181 --> 00:34:09,383
'Cause I can go back inside.
I'm not doing this. I'm calm.
905
00:34:09,449 --> 00:34:11,118
I'm answering every question
you guys are asking me.
906
00:34:11,185 --> 00:34:12,619
- Okay, well,
that's a slap in the face
907
00:34:12,686 --> 00:34:14,321
because I related to you
on a whole nother level.
908
00:34:14,388 --> 00:34:15,989
- Okay, anyways, Nev and Kamie,
909
00:34:16,056 --> 00:34:17,958
anything else
you guys want to ask me?
910
00:34:18,025 --> 00:34:20,961
- Well, I think, as someone
who has never dealt
911
00:34:21,028 --> 00:34:22,729
with any
substance abuse myself,
912
00:34:22,796 --> 00:34:25,799
I can still kind of understand
where Angel is coming from.
913
00:34:25,866 --> 00:34:28,468
Conversations about drugs
are triggering for Angel.
914
00:34:28,535 --> 00:34:30,103
- Mm-hmm.
- Even though she seems to be--
915
00:34:30,170 --> 00:34:32,172
- And I had
that conversation with you.
916
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,441
Told you
I would help you get clean.
917
00:34:36,009 --> 00:34:37,344
- So I know that there's still
918
00:34:37,411 --> 00:34:40,180
a lot of emotional conflict
happening in each of you
919
00:34:40,247 --> 00:34:41,548
and with each other right now.
920
00:34:41,615 --> 00:34:43,550
I think there's a lot more
to unpack
921
00:34:43,617 --> 00:34:46,286
that neither of you are ready
for today.
922
00:34:46,353 --> 00:34:48,789
It's too raw, so why don't we
call it a day?
923
00:34:48,856 --> 00:34:52,025
All get some rest,
meet back up tomorrow,
924
00:34:52,092 --> 00:34:53,293
if that works,
925
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,429
and have a new conversation
926
00:34:55,495 --> 00:34:59,032
having had some time to just
settle down from all this.
927
00:34:59,099 --> 00:35:01,034
Work for you?
- Yeah, absolutely.
928
00:35:01,101 --> 00:35:02,603
- Great.
929
00:35:02,669 --> 00:35:04,605
All right, we will be in touch.
- We'll see you tomorrow.
930
00:35:07,107 --> 00:35:08,675
- Oh, boy.
931
00:35:10,010 --> 00:35:13,213
- Why lie? Told her
I understand, you know,
932
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,883
drug addiction,
and I'll help you get clean.
933
00:35:15,949 --> 00:35:19,686
So, for me to even put myself
in that situation--
934
00:35:19,753 --> 00:35:21,722
- Did she share that
after or before
935
00:35:21,788 --> 00:35:24,024
you told her that you struggled
with this?
936
00:35:24,091 --> 00:35:25,459
- After.
937
00:35:25,526 --> 00:35:27,828
- That's even more [bleep] up,
in my opinion.
938
00:35:27,895 --> 00:35:30,063
- For me, the question
we never got an answer for is,
939
00:35:30,130 --> 00:35:31,698
what does she want?
940
00:35:31,765 --> 00:35:33,534
Does she like you?
941
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,904
Do you care whether or not she
actually has feelings for you?
942
00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:38,338
- I don't know.
943
00:35:45,879 --> 00:35:48,782
[upbeat music]
944
00:35:48,849 --> 00:35:53,387
♪♪ ♪♪
945
00:35:53,453 --> 00:35:56,390
[doorbell rings]
946
00:36:01,161 --> 00:36:03,630
all: Hello.
- Hi.
947
00:36:03,697 --> 00:36:05,399
- What's up?
- Hey.
948
00:36:05,465 --> 00:36:07,668
You guys want to come in?
- How's it going?
949
00:36:07,734 --> 00:36:10,204
- Nice to see you again.
- Hey.
950
00:36:10,270 --> 00:36:12,840
[soft music]
951
00:36:12,906 --> 00:36:14,775
♪♪ ♪♪
952
00:36:14,842 --> 00:36:16,944
- [sighs]
- How you feeling today?
953
00:36:17,010 --> 00:36:19,012
- I feel a lot better today.
954
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:21,481
I mean, I know there's still,
like, some things
955
00:36:21,548 --> 00:36:23,483
to, you know, discuss.
956
00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:25,853
First, I do want to apologize
957
00:36:25,919 --> 00:36:29,957
for lying
about the drug problem.
958
00:36:30,023 --> 00:36:32,392
I feel really bad, you know,
959
00:36:32,459 --> 00:36:35,128
for lying about that,
960
00:36:35,195 --> 00:36:36,864
and I apologize.
961
00:36:36,930 --> 00:36:38,665
I just never
should've did that.
962
00:36:38,732 --> 00:36:41,001
You know, I should've just...
963
00:36:41,068 --> 00:36:42,569
been honest
about everything with you
964
00:36:42,636 --> 00:36:43,770
- It's okay.
965
00:36:43,837 --> 00:36:45,739
- I guess it was just
my insecurities.
966
00:36:45,806 --> 00:36:48,675
I felt like
if I just told you, like,
967
00:36:48,742 --> 00:36:50,811
how I'm at home with my kids
968
00:36:50,878 --> 00:36:53,313
and, you know,
I'm really not a stripper--
969
00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:55,382
like, it's been
so long since I've stripped--
970
00:36:55,449 --> 00:36:57,751
like, if, you know,
if I came out and told you
971
00:36:57,818 --> 00:36:59,219
the real truth about me,
972
00:36:59,286 --> 00:37:01,688
I just didn't think you would
still keep talking to me.
973
00:37:01,755 --> 00:37:03,957
- Wait, so were you a stripper?
974
00:37:04,024 --> 00:37:05,826
- Yes, I actually did used
to be a stripper.
975
00:37:05,893 --> 00:37:07,160
- Oh.
- Yeah.
976
00:37:07,227 --> 00:37:10,464
- Well, that's why I feel like
we've heard a lot
977
00:37:10,531 --> 00:37:12,099
about make-believe people,
978
00:37:12,165 --> 00:37:14,468
but we haven't heard
a lot about you
979
00:37:14,535 --> 00:37:15,903
or your life, what you do.
980
00:37:15,969 --> 00:37:18,805
- Okay, well, I am from here,
Fort Smith, Arkansas.
981
00:37:18,872 --> 00:37:22,142
When I turned 18,
I started stripping.
982
00:37:22,209 --> 00:37:24,444
The first time that I stripped,
983
00:37:24,511 --> 00:37:26,446
I was actually pregnant
with my daughter,
984
00:37:26,513 --> 00:37:27,981
and I didn't know it.
985
00:37:28,048 --> 00:37:32,252
So, after I had her--she was
maybe about six months--
986
00:37:32,319 --> 00:37:34,988
I went back,
and I stripped again.
987
00:37:35,055 --> 00:37:38,058
But I didn't do it that long,
maybe for about a month.
988
00:37:38,125 --> 00:37:40,160
And then, you know,
I got pregnant with my son,
989
00:37:40,227 --> 00:37:42,796
and, I mean, from then on,
990
00:37:42,863 --> 00:37:45,332
like, I've been
in abusive relationships.
991
00:37:45,399 --> 00:37:47,768
Like, you know, Lorenzo,
992
00:37:47,835 --> 00:37:49,636
you know,
obviously he was fake.
993
00:37:49,703 --> 00:37:52,739
But I have has exes
who are Lorenzo.
994
00:37:52,806 --> 00:37:54,007
- Mm.
- You know, if you get--
995
00:37:54,074 --> 00:37:55,242
You understand...
- Yeah, I get it.
996
00:37:55,309 --> 00:37:56,743
- What I'm saying
when I say that?
997
00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:59,012
- Since we're on the subject
of Lorenzo,
998
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:01,081
when Lorenzo texted Angel,
999
00:38:01,148 --> 00:38:02,950
that was just you, right?
- Yes.
1000
00:38:03,016 --> 00:38:05,118
- Did you have a plan
with any of that?
1001
00:38:05,185 --> 00:38:08,021
- You know, I used Lorenzo
as an excuse
1002
00:38:08,088 --> 00:38:10,157
on why we couldn't see
each other.
1003
00:38:10,224 --> 00:38:12,826
But it was stupid of me
1004
00:38:12,893 --> 00:38:16,563
to just, like,
keep that going like that.
1005
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:20,968
It was just a way of me trying
to express to her my past.
1006
00:38:21,034 --> 00:38:23,804
But, I mean,
she still stuck around.
1007
00:38:23,871 --> 00:38:27,174
That's what made me fall
for her.
1008
00:38:27,241 --> 00:38:30,444
'Cause she just still stuck
around through all of that.
1009
00:38:30,511 --> 00:38:33,146
You don't find people
like that.
1010
00:38:33,213 --> 00:38:36,483
And I'm just--I hate
that I just wasn't honest.
1011
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:39,887
I should've just came
and told you everything,
1012
00:38:39,953 --> 00:38:42,556
even before you called,
you know, "Catfish."
1013
00:38:42,623 --> 00:38:45,893
- I do want to apologize
as well.
1014
00:38:45,959 --> 00:38:49,096
I wasn't proud
about my behavior.
1015
00:38:49,162 --> 00:38:51,131
I wasn't proud about the things
that I said.
1016
00:38:51,198 --> 00:38:55,068
I feel like I have to take
some responsibility,
1017
00:38:55,135 --> 00:38:57,938
'cause those pictures
you were sending,
1018
00:38:58,005 --> 00:39:00,641
the face wasn't
what I was looking at.
1019
00:39:00,707 --> 00:39:02,276
I felt like, you know,
1020
00:39:02,342 --> 00:39:05,179
I'm just as guilty
'cause I was...
1021
00:39:05,245 --> 00:39:06,947
- You saw
what you wanted to see.
1022
00:39:07,014 --> 00:39:09,183
- Yeah.
I saw what I wanted to see.
1023
00:39:09,249 --> 00:39:12,386
But whether you were Sharon
or Kiya,
1024
00:39:12,452 --> 00:39:14,188
whoever you are,
that doesn't change
1025
00:39:14,254 --> 00:39:15,822
the long talks we've had.
1026
00:39:15,889 --> 00:39:18,091
- My feelings are still there
for you,
1027
00:39:18,158 --> 00:39:21,962
and I still love you,
and I do want to be with you.
1028
00:39:22,029 --> 00:39:23,297
- I will say this.
1029
00:39:23,363 --> 00:39:26,700
I do want to walk
out of this house as friends,
1030
00:39:26,767 --> 00:39:29,436
and we can go from there.
1031
00:39:29,503 --> 00:39:32,005
- I mean, obviously,
I think Kiya was hoping
1032
00:39:32,072 --> 00:39:34,341
for more than a friend.
- I am.
1033
00:39:34,408 --> 00:39:35,776
- But...
1034
00:39:35,843 --> 00:39:38,011
- And you know what?
I'm just gonna be honest here.
1035
00:39:38,078 --> 00:39:39,279
I don't like that friend word.
1036
00:39:39,346 --> 00:39:40,781
I know it's gonna take time,
1037
00:39:40,848 --> 00:39:43,317
but I'm just not
gonna wait around forever
1038
00:39:43,383 --> 00:39:45,719
for you to gain your trust back
with me.
1039
00:39:45,786 --> 00:39:47,621
- I just want to point
that out.
1040
00:39:47,688 --> 00:39:48,789
- I can respect that.
1041
00:39:48,856 --> 00:39:50,624
- You have to just--
I don't know--
1042
00:39:50,691 --> 00:39:52,826
just tell me what you really
want from me.
1043
00:39:52,893 --> 00:39:54,494
- I'm unsure.
- Okay.
1044
00:39:54,561 --> 00:39:56,430
- That's why I said we got
to start at a friendship.
1045
00:39:56,496 --> 00:39:59,399
- Give it a little time,
see how it feels,
1046
00:39:59,466 --> 00:40:01,535
and I think you'll both know
pretty quickly,
1047
00:40:01,602 --> 00:40:03,570
as long as you're being real
and honest with each other,
1048
00:40:03,637 --> 00:40:05,572
if it's a fit.
1049
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:08,141
[sighs]
Well, you want to walk us out?
1050
00:40:08,208 --> 00:40:09,743
- Yeah, sure.
- [groans]
1051
00:40:09,810 --> 00:40:11,912
All right.
1052
00:40:11,979 --> 00:40:13,447
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to see you, guys.
1053
00:40:13,514 --> 00:40:15,649
- Good to meet you.
- You're so pretty.
1054
00:40:15,716 --> 00:40:16,950
- So are you.
1055
00:40:17,017 --> 00:40:18,952
[muffled voices]
1056
00:40:19,019 --> 00:40:20,554
- See you.
- Bye.
1057
00:40:20,621 --> 00:40:21,889
- Bye.
1058
00:40:21,955 --> 00:40:23,757
- ♪♪ Want me in your life ♪♪
1059
00:40:23,824 --> 00:40:27,561
♪♪ I will always be ♪♪
1060
00:40:27,628 --> 00:40:29,229
- Okay.
1061
00:40:29,296 --> 00:40:31,732
- ♪♪ If you want me
in your arms ♪♪
1062
00:40:31,798 --> 00:40:33,133
♪♪ I will always be ♪♪
1063
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,735
- So what do you think, Angel?
1064
00:40:34,801 --> 00:40:36,803
- To be honest, I feel
like she's rushing me.
1065
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:38,205
- Mm.
1066
00:40:38,272 --> 00:40:39,773
- I feel like she's rushing me
to trust her,
1067
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,076
and that's--I mean, I don't
want to rush anything anymore.
1068
00:40:43,143 --> 00:40:45,479
- I think that she's scared
that you won't get there.
1069
00:40:45,546 --> 00:40:48,549
- I owe it to myself
to not rush anything.
1070
00:40:48,615 --> 00:40:51,051
- I guess we just have to wait
and see what happens.
1071
00:40:51,118 --> 00:40:54,321
- ♪♪ Baby ♪♪
1072
00:40:54,388 --> 00:40:57,858
♪♪ If you want me
in your arms ♪♪
1073
00:40:57,925 --> 00:40:59,793
♪♪ I will always be ♪♪
1074
00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:03,330
♪♪ There's nothing,
there's nothing ♪♪
1075
00:41:03,397 --> 00:41:05,699
♪♪ There's nothing ♪♪
1076
00:41:05,766 --> 00:41:07,134
♪♪ Always be ♪♪
1077
00:41:07,201 --> 00:41:08,735
♪♪ I will always be ♪♪
1078
00:41:08,802 --> 00:41:13,640
♪♪ I will always be,
I will always be ♪♪