1 00:00:08,808 --> 00:00:10,443 [Female Narrator] She was a widowed teacher 2 00:00:10,477 --> 00:00:12,779 getting a second chance at love. 3 00:00:13,279 --> 00:00:15,148 [David] She was ready to move on 4 00:00:15,181 --> 00:00:18,084 from a very painful part of her life. 5 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:20,053 [Winnie] They were so good together. 6 00:00:20,086 --> 00:00:23,189 I just thought that they had the world by the tail. 7 00:00:23,790 --> 00:00:25,558 [Narrator] But their storybook romance 8 00:00:25,592 --> 00:00:27,560 would come crashing down, 9 00:00:28,528 --> 00:00:31,364 when a family vacation turns deadly. 10 00:00:31,998 --> 00:00:34,300 [Bill] It started out as just a normal good Christmas. 11 00:00:34,734 --> 00:00:38,204 It ended up turning into one of the worst ones imaginable. 12 00:00:39,005 --> 00:00:41,975 She appeared to be shot with a high-powered rifle. 13 00:00:42,842 --> 00:00:45,111 He said, "It's got to be a hunter's stray bullet." 14 00:00:46,813 --> 00:00:49,783 [Narrator] As investigators piece together the case, 15 00:00:49,816 --> 00:00:51,951 bizarre rumors will emerge. 16 00:00:51,985 --> 00:00:54,988 He passed him off as his illegitimate son. 17 00:00:55,021 --> 00:00:57,257 He was way too close to this guy. 18 00:00:57,991 --> 00:01:00,226 [Narrator] Exposing a passionate affair 19 00:01:00,260 --> 00:01:02,529 and a betrayal born of greed. 20 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:05,699 There was an insatiable need for money. 21 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:09,169 He made sure he looked like the innocent party. 22 00:01:09,202 --> 00:01:12,972 But you know what? He's just a liar. 23 00:01:20,113 --> 00:01:22,082 He played upon her vulnerability 24 00:01:22,382 --> 00:01:25,652 and was there to drain every penny she had. 25 00:01:26,186 --> 00:01:29,089 If he's in love with somebody, he'll do anything 26 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:30,523 that they want him to do. 27 00:01:33,460 --> 00:01:39,566 [theme music] 28 00:01:45,772 --> 00:01:48,541 [Narrator] Situated halfway between the bustling cities 29 00:01:48,575 --> 00:01:51,111 of St. Louis, Missouri and Nashville, Tennessee 30 00:01:51,144 --> 00:01:54,614 lies the quiet river town of Paducah, Kentucky. 31 00:01:55,415 --> 00:01:56,850 [Michael] It's a close-knit community. 32 00:01:57,350 --> 00:02:00,687 Everybody waves at everybody. Everybody speaks to everybody. 33 00:02:01,421 --> 00:02:02,789 [Spissinger] There's a lot of wildlife. 34 00:02:02,822 --> 00:02:04,591 There's a lot of outdoors. 35 00:02:04,624 --> 00:02:09,095 You're in the general area of duck hunting, fishing, 36 00:02:09,129 --> 00:02:10,797 and deer hunting. 37 00:02:11,965 --> 00:02:15,535 [Narrator] On the afternoon of December 27, 1990, 38 00:02:16,703 --> 00:02:18,571 Bill Mathis is at home, 39 00:02:18,605 --> 00:02:21,508 enjoying the holiday season with his family. 40 00:02:22,075 --> 00:02:24,077 [Bill] My father-in-law, Charles Chumbler, 41 00:02:24,077 --> 00:02:27,414 and his wife Nelda Chumbler, came in for Christmas that year 42 00:02:27,447 --> 00:02:29,649 and had spent the night there at our house. 43 00:02:29,683 --> 00:02:32,318 Charles and Nelda were going to drive down 44 00:02:32,352 --> 00:02:35,855 to his mother's house to see them. 45 00:02:36,956 --> 00:02:38,958 He was gonna take my son Shane with him too, 46 00:02:38,992 --> 00:02:41,094 and they were going to stop and feed the horses. 47 00:02:45,265 --> 00:02:50,904 Shortly after the phone rang, and Charles's mother said, 48 00:02:50,937 --> 00:02:53,139 "Bill, get down here, someone shot Nelda." 49 00:02:54,641 --> 00:02:56,710 She was pretty hysterical. 50 00:02:57,510 --> 00:02:59,813 Soon as I hang up from her, I call 911, 51 00:02:59,846 --> 00:03:02,482 and then I jumped in my truck. 52 00:03:05,785 --> 00:03:07,554 I was a firefighter and EMT. 53 00:03:07,587 --> 00:03:10,056 I wanted to get down there in anyway possible 54 00:03:10,056 --> 00:03:11,725 to try to treat her. 55 00:03:11,758 --> 00:03:14,527 It was a really cold, gray, bitter day, 56 00:03:14,561 --> 00:03:16,096 quite a bit of snow on the ground. 57 00:03:16,129 --> 00:03:18,431 I was going as fast as I could in a four-wheel drive truck 58 00:03:18,465 --> 00:03:19,532 without braking. 59 00:03:19,566 --> 00:03:20,867 The roads were really slick, 60 00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:23,536 it took a little bit to get down there. 61 00:03:24,571 --> 00:03:28,074 Of course, a thousand things were going through my mind. 62 00:03:29,776 --> 00:03:32,212 [Narrator] As night falls, Bill Mathis arrives at 63 00:03:32,245 --> 00:03:35,915 the horse pasture on the farm owned by Charles's family. 64 00:03:37,083 --> 00:03:39,786 [Bill] A rescue truck, he got there just ahead of me. 65 00:03:40,553 --> 00:03:42,389 Nelda was laying on her back. 66 00:03:43,256 --> 00:03:45,091 I could tell, looking at her jacket 67 00:03:45,091 --> 00:03:47,360 that she had on, it looked like she had been hit 68 00:03:47,394 --> 00:03:48,995 right up under the collarbone. 69 00:03:50,397 --> 00:03:51,798 She didn't have a pulse. 70 00:03:52,565 --> 00:03:55,935 She was already as cold, as cold as it was that day. 71 00:03:57,937 --> 00:04:00,740 Charles was crying, and he looked pretty shaken, 72 00:04:00,774 --> 00:04:02,208 and I asked him, "Where's Shane?" 73 00:04:02,242 --> 00:04:03,510 'Cause I didn't see him, and he said, 74 00:04:03,543 --> 00:04:04,944 "He's down at my mom's." 75 00:04:06,046 --> 00:04:08,314 [Narrator] Officers from state and local agencies 76 00:04:08,348 --> 00:04:10,050 quickly converge on the scene. 77 00:04:11,051 --> 00:04:14,454 When I got out there, I found Charles Chumbler. 78 00:04:15,555 --> 00:04:19,926 I asked him what he seen because everyone's a suspect. 79 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,228 "What'd you see? What'd you hear?" 80 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:24,330 was there anybody else around? 81 00:04:27,967 --> 00:04:30,403 He said, "Well, we were feeding the horses," 82 00:04:30,437 --> 00:04:31,971 he said, "I heard a shot." 83 00:04:33,073 --> 00:04:37,477 He dives on the ground to protect his grandson. 84 00:04:38,745 --> 00:04:42,515 And he looked over, and Nelda wasn't moving. 85 00:04:43,883 --> 00:04:46,920 [Narrator] Charles carried his grandson, Shane, back to the car 86 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:50,090 and drove straight to his mother's home nearby 87 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:51,791 to get help for his wife. 88 00:04:51,825 --> 00:04:54,828 Charles said, "There's been a terrible accident." 89 00:04:55,195 --> 00:04:56,830 "Somebody shot Nelda." 90 00:04:57,931 --> 00:05:00,467 He told somebody to call an ambulance 91 00:05:01,067 --> 00:05:03,670 and left the grandson there and then went back. 92 00:05:05,038 --> 00:05:07,841 I wasn't really sure what to think about at the time 93 00:05:07,874 --> 00:05:12,045 I was in shock still. 94 00:05:12,746 --> 00:05:14,314 But somewhere in the back of my mind, 95 00:05:14,347 --> 00:05:15,715 I knew this isn't right, 96 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:17,650 nobody would've just shot her down. 97 00:05:20,053 --> 00:05:22,822 [Narrator] Tampa-area high school science teacher, 98 00:05:22,856 --> 00:05:24,157 Nelda Mason, 99 00:05:24,190 --> 00:05:27,193 had loved and lost for much of her adult life. 100 00:05:28,061 --> 00:05:31,197 [Winnie] She lost her husband of many, many years to cancer, 101 00:05:31,231 --> 00:05:35,201 and she went through an extended period of medical care 102 00:05:35,235 --> 00:05:36,603 and support for him, 103 00:05:36,936 --> 00:05:40,073 and it was grueling and expensive 104 00:05:40,073 --> 00:05:41,341 and time consuming. 105 00:05:42,242 --> 00:05:44,678 [Bill] Nelda had a rough time in the past, you know, 106 00:05:44,711 --> 00:05:46,479 due to her husband and mother dying. 107 00:05:46,513 --> 00:05:48,114 Nelda had two kids. 108 00:05:48,648 --> 00:05:51,418 She was just, you know, really good as a schoolteacher 109 00:05:51,451 --> 00:05:53,820 and loved her job and spent a lot of time at school. 110 00:05:54,587 --> 00:05:56,156 [Winnie] People at her school loved her. 111 00:05:56,623 --> 00:05:58,324 The staff loved her, the kids loved her. 112 00:05:58,358 --> 00:05:59,793 Everybody loved her. 113 00:06:00,460 --> 00:06:01,895 [Bill] Nelda was a really good person. 114 00:06:01,928 --> 00:06:05,398 She was soft-spoken, just really sweet. 115 00:06:06,132 --> 00:06:08,868 [Narrator] Nearly a decade after her husband's death, 116 00:06:08,902 --> 00:06:11,471 Nelda's life would change forever 117 00:06:11,504 --> 00:06:14,207 when Charles Chumbler swept into town. 118 00:06:14,941 --> 00:06:17,310 [Winnie] He had been a pastor, a minister, 119 00:06:17,344 --> 00:06:20,046 at one time in Paducah. 120 00:06:20,947 --> 00:06:23,616 When I met Charles, he started being the minister 121 00:06:23,650 --> 00:06:25,485 at the church where I played the piano. 122 00:06:26,486 --> 00:06:29,155 Everybody loved him, and they trusted him. 123 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:30,557 They looked up to him. 124 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:33,126 We had two kids. And he did love his children. 125 00:06:33,593 --> 00:06:36,363 But after I separated from Charles, 126 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:37,831 he wanted to go to Florida. 127 00:06:39,632 --> 00:06:42,502 [Donald] Nelda met Charles in the school system, 128 00:06:42,535 --> 00:06:44,571 and he was an English teacher. 129 00:06:46,272 --> 00:06:48,641 He could charm your socks off. 130 00:06:49,709 --> 00:06:53,646 He would bring in baked goods from home and pass it around. 131 00:06:54,347 --> 00:06:55,715 He put you at ease 132 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:57,484 and made you feel really good about yourself. 133 00:06:58,585 --> 00:07:00,820 He totally was genuine. 134 00:07:01,721 --> 00:07:04,324 [Narrator] Charles may have had many admirers, 135 00:07:04,357 --> 00:07:07,027 but he only had eyes for the sweet widow 136 00:07:07,060 --> 00:07:08,461 with the heart of gold. 137 00:07:09,062 --> 00:07:11,831 Nelda was ready to move on 138 00:07:11,865 --> 00:07:14,834 from a very painful part of her life, 139 00:07:16,036 --> 00:07:18,571 and Charles seemed to present that opportunity. 140 00:07:19,539 --> 00:07:22,042 [Winnie] She told me how happy she was 141 00:07:22,409 --> 00:07:24,711 because Charles swept her off her feet. 142 00:07:26,346 --> 00:07:27,614 They were married 143 00:07:27,647 --> 00:07:29,582 and living together in her house, 144 00:07:29,616 --> 00:07:31,851 and they were so good together. 145 00:07:31,885 --> 00:07:33,086 I was kind of jealous. 146 00:07:34,154 --> 00:07:37,057 I just thought that they had the world by the tail. 147 00:07:39,492 --> 00:07:41,494 [Narrator] After three years of marriage, 148 00:07:41,528 --> 00:07:43,930 Charles and Nelda made plans to spend Christmas 149 00:07:43,963 --> 00:07:46,132 at his daughter's house in Paducah. 150 00:07:47,167 --> 00:07:50,737 [David] Charles thought that Nelda would enjoy getting away 151 00:07:50,770 --> 00:07:53,206 for a little while, and so he suggested 152 00:07:53,606 --> 00:07:56,076 that they could go up to the Chumbler farm 153 00:07:56,109 --> 00:07:57,744 in Paducah, Kentucky, 154 00:07:58,278 --> 00:08:00,780 and have a nice Christmas vacation. 155 00:08:01,614 --> 00:08:03,917 [Bill] It started out as just a normal good Christmas, 156 00:08:05,085 --> 00:08:08,922 ended up turning into one of the worst ones imaginable. 157 00:08:12,659 --> 00:08:16,129 [Narrator] As investigators speak to a devastated Charles, 158 00:08:16,496 --> 00:08:18,865 he claims the bullet that struck his wife 159 00:08:18,898 --> 00:08:20,700 appeared out of nowhere. 160 00:08:21,534 --> 00:08:24,137 I asked him, "Did you see anybody there? 161 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:25,605 "Was there anybody else around?" 162 00:08:25,638 --> 00:08:27,841 He kept saying, "I heard a shot way off, 163 00:08:27,874 --> 00:08:30,610 "and it's got to be a hunter's stray bullet." 164 00:08:31,911 --> 00:08:34,381 Hunting season was in, duck season was in, 165 00:08:34,414 --> 00:08:37,050 bird, quail season, rabbit season. 166 00:08:37,817 --> 00:08:40,720 There was a lot of hunting goes on in that area. 167 00:08:41,688 --> 00:08:43,890 He said, "That's all I can really tell you." 168 00:08:44,891 --> 00:08:46,760 [Narrator] After taking Charles's statement, 169 00:08:46,793 --> 00:08:49,195 investigators and the McCracken County Coroner 170 00:08:49,229 --> 00:08:52,932 take a closer look at the victim and search for evidence 171 00:08:52,966 --> 00:08:54,334 to confirm the theory 172 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:56,836 that Nelda was shot accidentally. 173 00:08:58,138 --> 00:08:59,773 [Jerry] The body was face up. 174 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:02,575 There was a gunshot wound 175 00:09:02,609 --> 00:09:05,478 that appeared to be to the left upper chest, 176 00:09:06,112 --> 00:09:08,181 and it seemed to exit 177 00:09:08,214 --> 00:09:11,384 in the right midline of her back. 178 00:09:12,252 --> 00:09:16,089 I noticed there was a wooden split-rail fence post 179 00:09:16,423 --> 00:09:18,024 very near the body, 180 00:09:18,024 --> 00:09:20,694 and it appeared to have a defect to it. 181 00:09:21,494 --> 00:09:24,064 My first assumption was that that projectile 182 00:09:24,097 --> 00:09:28,601 went through her remains and then into that fence post. 183 00:09:29,336 --> 00:09:31,237 [Michael] We tried to fence off the area 184 00:09:31,271 --> 00:09:34,407 after they had secured the victim. 185 00:09:34,874 --> 00:09:36,042 It was dark, 186 00:09:36,042 --> 00:09:37,877 and we was out there with flashlights trying 187 00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:40,046 to see what we could see. 188 00:09:40,647 --> 00:09:43,483 We walked all the way around in the general direction 189 00:09:43,516 --> 00:09:45,819 that the bullet would had to have come from, 190 00:09:46,486 --> 00:09:49,322 and we did not find anything. 191 00:09:51,958 --> 00:09:53,593 [Narrator] Investigators put a hold 192 00:09:53,626 --> 00:09:55,662 on their crime-scene investigation 193 00:09:55,695 --> 00:09:58,465 and turn to the only other witness, 194 00:09:58,932 --> 00:10:03,737 Charles and Nelda's grandson, four-year-old Shane Mathis. 195 00:10:11,978 --> 00:10:15,482 [Bill] That afternoon, they took my son, Shane Mathis, with the. 196 00:10:15,982 --> 00:10:17,884 He always wanted to spend a lot of time 197 00:10:17,917 --> 00:10:19,352 with his Papaw. 198 00:10:25,825 --> 00:10:27,394 [gunshot] 199 00:10:34,567 --> 00:10:35,802 [Narrator] Shane's account 200 00:10:35,835 --> 00:10:37,704 mirrors his grandfather's account, 201 00:10:37,737 --> 00:10:40,073 except for one detail, 202 00:10:40,607 --> 00:10:43,276 [David] Charles insisted there had been only one shot, 203 00:10:43,576 --> 00:10:45,345 whereas his four-year-old grandson 204 00:10:45,378 --> 00:10:47,280 remembered hearing two shots. 205 00:10:47,313 --> 00:10:48,648 [gunshots] 206 00:10:48,682 --> 00:10:49,983 Now, if there's two shots, 207 00:10:50,016 --> 00:10:53,053 that lessens the possibility of an accident. 208 00:10:56,122 --> 00:10:58,458 [Narrator] Coming up, A witness account 209 00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:01,961 further suggests Nelda's death was intentional. 210 00:11:02,629 --> 00:11:05,065 He said, "There's something strange about this guy." 211 00:11:05,598 --> 00:11:08,935 They kept trying to drive away as the rescue vehicles 212 00:11:08,968 --> 00:11:10,403 and the cops were coming. 213 00:11:11,705 --> 00:11:15,075 [Narrator] And a possible motive begins to form. 214 00:11:15,075 --> 00:11:19,579 They'd already just about broke Nelda financially. 215 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:22,849 [music] 216 00:11:30,557 --> 00:11:33,793 [Narrator] In Paducah, Kentucky, authorities are investigating 217 00:11:33,827 --> 00:11:36,896 the death of 52-year-old Nelda Chumbler 218 00:11:37,897 --> 00:11:40,867 after her husband Charles and grandson Shane 219 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:44,871 witnessed the shooting in a field near their family's hoe 220 00:11:44,904 --> 00:11:46,673 [gunshot] 221 00:11:48,108 --> 00:11:52,479 The following day, Nelda's autopsy gets underway. 222 00:11:53,446 --> 00:11:56,116 [Jerry] We're able to see exactly where that wound is. 223 00:11:56,750 --> 00:12:00,053 It went through the apex of the top of the left lung. 224 00:12:00,487 --> 00:12:03,723 It fractured a rib on the front and severed the spine. 225 00:12:03,757 --> 00:12:07,260 So, one of the things we know after autopsy 226 00:12:07,293 --> 00:12:09,496 is that Miss Chumbler would have been dead 227 00:12:09,529 --> 00:12:11,664 at the moment of impact. 228 00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:15,869 She appeared to be shot with a high-powered rifle. 229 00:12:17,203 --> 00:12:19,172 [Jerry] That type of hunting ammunition, 230 00:12:19,205 --> 00:12:21,374 it tends to fragment. 231 00:12:21,408 --> 00:12:26,079 Which forensically we call that a lead snowstorm. 232 00:12:26,112 --> 00:12:28,682 If you look at it on X-Ray, 233 00:12:29,282 --> 00:12:32,485 it looks like these tiny little chips of lea. 234 00:12:33,553 --> 00:12:37,357 Now, when you realize that, that bullet has fragmented, 235 00:12:37,390 --> 00:12:39,659 that sort of rules out the possibility 236 00:12:39,693 --> 00:12:42,796 of that projectile or bullet going through 237 00:12:42,829 --> 00:12:46,499 her remains, and then into that fence post. 238 00:12:46,966 --> 00:12:50,003 So that, that to me made me feel 239 00:12:50,103 --> 00:12:53,540 that there were two shots fired as opposed to one. 240 00:12:53,573 --> 00:12:54,874 [gunshot] 241 00:12:55,575 --> 00:12:58,812 One striking the post and one striking Nelda Chumbler. 242 00:12:58,845 --> 00:13:00,080 [gunshot] 243 00:13:00,380 --> 00:13:02,248 It would be difficult for me to believe 244 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:04,250 that there were two stray bullets 245 00:13:04,284 --> 00:13:06,886 that were fired within seconds of each other. 246 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,490 So, once we establish that two-shot theory, 247 00:13:10,523 --> 00:13:13,093 then I, I think we certainly realize 248 00:13:13,126 --> 00:13:14,627 we had a homicide versus 249 00:13:14,661 --> 00:13:18,665 an accidental stray bullet striking her. 250 00:13:19,766 --> 00:13:21,568 [Narrator] Now, the question remains, 251 00:13:21,601 --> 00:13:24,704 who would want to kill Nelda Chumbler? 252 00:13:26,139 --> 00:13:28,508 Investigators return to the crime scene 253 00:13:28,541 --> 00:13:31,544 and canvas the area for eyewitnesses. 254 00:13:31,578 --> 00:13:34,314 [Michael] We have to go research everything that's said. 255 00:13:34,347 --> 00:13:36,249 We actually did a perimeter search 256 00:13:36,750 --> 00:13:39,486 completely around, about a half mile around, 257 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:43,690 just to discredit the idea that, 258 00:13:44,591 --> 00:13:46,593 there was somebody out here shooting, 259 00:13:46,626 --> 00:13:49,362 and a stray bullet hit Nelda. 260 00:13:50,296 --> 00:13:51,865 [Donald] We now run into a neighbor. 261 00:13:51,898 --> 00:13:53,166 He didn't hear the shot, 262 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,702 but he did see a vehicle. 263 00:13:56,970 --> 00:13:59,773 He said two people kept getting their little car 264 00:13:59,806 --> 00:14:01,041 stuck in the snow, 265 00:14:01,074 --> 00:14:03,043 and he was jumping out of the car 266 00:14:03,043 --> 00:14:06,446 and pushing it a few feet and then jumping back in the car 267 00:14:06,479 --> 00:14:08,114 trying to get out of there. 268 00:14:08,415 --> 00:14:10,950 He described the guy pushing 269 00:14:11,051 --> 00:14:13,820 was a tall, slender, dark-headed guy. 270 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:15,288 He had a moustache. 271 00:14:16,523 --> 00:14:18,658 He couldn't see inside the car 'cause it appeared the car 272 00:14:18,692 --> 00:14:21,828 was all fogged up or stuff was stacked up in the car 273 00:14:22,195 --> 00:14:24,397 like they were moving or going someplace. 274 00:14:25,265 --> 00:14:28,968 They drive away as the rescue vehicles 275 00:14:29,069 --> 00:14:30,437 and the cops were coming. 276 00:14:31,271 --> 00:14:33,106 [Narrator] The neighbor identifies the vehicle 277 00:14:33,139 --> 00:14:35,275 as a silver Nissan Sedan. 278 00:14:35,842 --> 00:14:39,779 Unfortunately, he was unable to catch the license plate. 279 00:14:42,082 --> 00:14:46,519 Investigators continue searching the Chumbler property for clue. 280 00:14:46,553 --> 00:14:48,088 [Michael] We was trying to figure out 281 00:14:48,121 --> 00:14:49,589 the trajectory of the bullet. 282 00:14:49,622 --> 00:14:51,891 So, you actually went backwards. 283 00:14:51,925 --> 00:14:55,295 You come from where, approximately where the bullet 284 00:14:55,328 --> 00:14:56,663 may have went into the ground 285 00:14:56,696 --> 00:14:59,099 after it passed through Mrs. Chumbler, 286 00:14:59,332 --> 00:15:00,767 and we was able to 287 00:15:01,501 --> 00:15:03,403 find where it went through a tree, 288 00:15:03,436 --> 00:15:06,773 where it went through a part of the corral 289 00:15:06,806 --> 00:15:09,676 and actually was able to trace, with a string, 290 00:15:09,709 --> 00:15:12,779 all the way back to the shed that was off to the right. 291 00:15:13,346 --> 00:15:16,249 [Narrator] The shed sits on the Chumbler family farm, 292 00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:18,451 nearly 25 yards away 293 00:15:18,485 --> 00:15:21,454 from the horse pasture where Nelda died. 294 00:15:22,455 --> 00:15:24,324 [Donald] So, I look inside the shed, 295 00:15:24,357 --> 00:15:26,793 we find several cigarette butts are in there. 296 00:15:27,827 --> 00:15:31,798 Newport was the type of butt inside the shed. 297 00:15:32,732 --> 00:15:34,434 People don't really smoke them a whole lot, 298 00:15:34,467 --> 00:15:36,636 not down in this neck of woods anyway. 299 00:15:37,470 --> 00:15:39,439 I collect what few cigarette butts 300 00:15:39,472 --> 00:15:40,940 I could collect in there. 301 00:15:42,809 --> 00:15:45,912 [Narrator] As investigators continue searching the shed, 302 00:15:46,413 --> 00:15:48,915 a crack in the wall stands out to them. 303 00:15:50,250 --> 00:15:53,987 And it looks like, to us, that someone was standing 304 00:15:54,087 --> 00:15:55,488 inside that building 305 00:15:55,522 --> 00:15:57,624 and shot through one of the cracks. 306 00:15:59,292 --> 00:16:01,361 [Donald] That told me that somebody in that shed 307 00:16:01,695 --> 00:16:03,663 is the one that shot the rifle. 308 00:16:05,031 --> 00:16:09,469 I really thought, in my mind, that this was premeditated. 309 00:16:10,236 --> 00:16:12,038 Something like this just don't happen 310 00:16:12,072 --> 00:16:13,707 unless it's been thought out. 311 00:16:14,107 --> 00:16:16,309 This was a planned ordeal. 312 00:16:19,212 --> 00:16:21,314 [Narrator] Detectives send the cigarette butts 313 00:16:21,348 --> 00:16:23,616 from the shed for forensic analysis. 314 00:16:24,084 --> 00:16:26,286 [Donald] Back then, Kentucky didn't have the money 315 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:28,188 or the means to do the DNA, 316 00:16:28,221 --> 00:16:30,957 but they can do the blood typing with your saliva. 317 00:16:31,057 --> 00:16:34,194 We got trace evidence, and we was able to track it 318 00:16:34,227 --> 00:16:35,929 and type the blood that the person had 319 00:16:35,962 --> 00:16:37,330 that was smoking the cigarette. 320 00:16:37,364 --> 00:16:39,065 This told us we was looking for somebody 321 00:16:39,065 --> 00:16:40,467 with A positive blood. 322 00:16:41,434 --> 00:16:43,703 [Narrator] Since investigators believe Nelda's murder 323 00:16:43,737 --> 00:16:46,539 was premeditated, they turn to those 324 00:16:46,573 --> 00:16:50,477 who knew her best, in her hometown of Tampa. 325 00:16:51,311 --> 00:16:52,879 I said, "Y'all got your bags packed? 326 00:16:52,912 --> 00:16:54,347 "We're going to Florida." 327 00:16:56,149 --> 00:16:58,585 [music] 328 00:17:01,087 --> 00:17:03,757 [music] 329 00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:07,293 [Narrator] Less than 48 hours 330 00:17:07,327 --> 00:17:10,096 into Nelda Chumbler's death investigation, 331 00:17:10,130 --> 00:17:12,665 Kentucky authorities have designated the case 332 00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:16,169 a premeditated homicide and are searching for leads 333 00:17:16,202 --> 00:17:19,172 in Nelda's hometown of Tampa, Florida. 334 00:17:21,241 --> 00:17:25,045 [Donald] When we get to Florida, I go around, and it's my job, 335 00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:29,182 to interview Nelda's friends and co-workers. 336 00:17:31,685 --> 00:17:33,253 [Winnie] I received a call 337 00:17:33,620 --> 00:17:35,789 during my Christmas break, from Charles. 338 00:17:35,822 --> 00:17:39,225 He was crying on the phone, and he said that his wife, 339 00:17:39,259 --> 00:17:41,928 his beautiful wife, had been shot and killed. 340 00:17:42,762 --> 00:17:46,066 I couldn't believe it, I was stunned. I was stunned. 341 00:17:46,266 --> 00:17:47,701 How could that happen? 342 00:17:48,835 --> 00:17:50,070 I couldn't find anybody 343 00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:52,172 that said anything negative about Nelda. 344 00:17:52,806 --> 00:17:55,275 [Winnie] She was just real and honest. 345 00:17:55,608 --> 00:17:59,512 And she had had the success and joy of being 346 00:17:59,546 --> 00:18:02,716 a well-respected teacher in that school. 347 00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:06,753 [Narrator] Despite Nelda's seemingly perfect life, 348 00:18:07,153 --> 00:18:09,589 investigators learn that she was experiencing 349 00:18:09,622 --> 00:18:11,658 major financial issues. 350 00:18:12,692 --> 00:18:14,060 [Winnie] Nelda had received 351 00:18:14,094 --> 00:18:16,429 quite a large insurance settlement 352 00:18:16,896 --> 00:18:20,800 when her husband had passed away in the early '80s. 353 00:18:21,334 --> 00:18:22,435 [Donald] It was a lot of money. 354 00:18:22,469 --> 00:18:25,572 I'd say probably close to $300,000 now. 355 00:18:26,506 --> 00:18:30,076 [Narrator] According to friends, her financial situation changed 356 00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:33,747 when Nelda and Charles received some unexpected news 357 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:36,216 nearly a year into their marriage. 358 00:18:36,783 --> 00:18:38,551 [Michael] One day, there was a knock at the door 359 00:18:38,585 --> 00:18:41,321 and Nelda and Charles went to the door, 360 00:18:41,354 --> 00:18:43,656 and it was Michael Kariakis. 361 00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:48,828 Charles was saying that Michael was his illegitimate son. 362 00:18:49,396 --> 00:18:53,266 He said this was from a previous affair years ago. 363 00:18:54,167 --> 00:18:58,338 Nelda had no idea who Michael Kariakis was. 364 00:18:59,439 --> 00:19:02,075 [Narrator] The 24-year-old told Nelda and Charles 365 00:19:02,108 --> 00:19:03,109 that he was sick 366 00:19:03,143 --> 00:19:05,578 and had no other family to turn to. 367 00:19:06,346 --> 00:19:09,783 Michael, supposedly, was suffering from cancer. 368 00:19:11,084 --> 00:19:12,719 [Winnie] He didn't have any health insurance, 369 00:19:12,752 --> 00:19:14,187 and he needed money. 370 00:19:14,554 --> 00:19:16,589 Here's her husband's illegitimate son, 371 00:19:16,623 --> 00:19:18,091 and now he was suffering. 372 00:19:19,092 --> 00:19:21,828 It probably dredged up all the old memories 373 00:19:21,861 --> 00:19:24,264 of what she went through with her previous husband. 374 00:19:24,297 --> 00:19:26,299 And so, she wanted to help out. 375 00:19:27,267 --> 00:19:29,402 [Michael] Nelda just brought him right on in. 376 00:19:30,103 --> 00:19:32,305 She welcomed him in with open arms. 377 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:34,741 [Donald] Nelda paid for his apartment, 378 00:19:34,774 --> 00:19:37,777 She paid for his treatment and paid for his food, 379 00:19:37,811 --> 00:19:39,846 and his vehicle, and his fuel. 380 00:19:40,313 --> 00:19:44,351 Nelda spent oodles and gobs of money on Michael. 381 00:19:45,318 --> 00:19:48,455 Money was going out faster than it was coming in. 382 00:19:49,089 --> 00:19:51,391 [Michael] We interviewed so many people, 383 00:19:51,925 --> 00:19:53,827 a lot of her co-workers. 384 00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:55,628 There was lots of information, 385 00:19:55,662 --> 00:19:57,564 and they all felt like the same thing. 386 00:19:57,597 --> 00:20:02,369 They all knew Michael Kariakis 'cause she had talked about him. 387 00:20:02,902 --> 00:20:07,874 They all had warned Nelda that he was taking advantage of her. 388 00:20:09,042 --> 00:20:11,144 [Narrator] Nelda's co-workers tell investigators 389 00:20:11,177 --> 00:20:12,779 that in the months that followed, 390 00:20:12,812 --> 00:20:16,416 Michael's behavior grew increasingly bizarre. 391 00:20:17,017 --> 00:20:19,152 [David] Michael was a strange character. 392 00:20:20,020 --> 00:20:22,922 He had a fascination with violence. 393 00:20:23,423 --> 00:20:25,792 Nelda said he told tall tales. 394 00:20:26,126 --> 00:20:28,828 At one point, he was a manufacturer 395 00:20:28,862 --> 00:20:30,463 of psychedelic drugs. 396 00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:32,732 He was an ex-Army captain 397 00:20:32,766 --> 00:20:35,268 who had gone through special training. 398 00:20:35,301 --> 00:20:37,303 He was a Greek hitman. 399 00:20:38,004 --> 00:20:41,207 He told all these tales to give people 400 00:20:41,241 --> 00:20:46,780 an-an-an aggrandized view of, of who this guy was. 401 00:20:47,547 --> 00:20:51,451 He was always acting like he was gonna do something to somebody 402 00:20:51,484 --> 00:20:53,319 or hurt somebody or whatever. 403 00:20:55,488 --> 00:20:59,459 [Michael] After a while, Nelda became very suspicious 404 00:20:59,492 --> 00:21:01,127 of Michael Kariakis. 405 00:21:02,162 --> 00:21:05,432 For someone that had cancer, he was in very good shape. 406 00:21:06,199 --> 00:21:07,934 [Donald] Michael did have expensive taste. 407 00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:11,671 He liked guns. He liked dressing well. 408 00:21:12,939 --> 00:21:15,275 [David] Nelda began to realize this young guy 409 00:21:15,308 --> 00:21:16,743 is driving me broke, 410 00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:19,779 and she began to complain to Charles. 411 00:21:20,347 --> 00:21:22,816 Eventually telling him, "I don't want Michael Kariakis 412 00:21:22,849 --> 00:21:24,351 "around this house anymore." 413 00:21:25,819 --> 00:21:28,555 [Narrator] But friends claim Charles wasn't willing 414 00:21:28,588 --> 00:21:30,623 to turn his back on his son. 415 00:21:31,224 --> 00:21:34,160 When Nelda stopped paying for Michael's apartment, 416 00:21:34,194 --> 00:21:36,363 Charles became irate. 417 00:21:36,763 --> 00:21:40,100 So, her and Charles had a major, major fuss, 418 00:21:40,967 --> 00:21:45,205 and Charles actually left and went away for a while. 419 00:21:46,106 --> 00:21:48,475 [Winnie] It was really impacting the relationship 420 00:21:48,508 --> 00:21:52,312 between Nelda and Charles, and the next time I saw Nelda, 421 00:21:52,345 --> 00:21:55,181 she was not the happy person she had been. 422 00:21:56,282 --> 00:21:58,785 [Michael] Well, Charles comes back sometime later 423 00:21:58,818 --> 00:22:01,755 and was trying to make amends to Nelda. 424 00:22:01,788 --> 00:22:04,057 Seemed like things were going very well, 425 00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:07,427 and Charles decided, "Let's go to Paducah 426 00:22:08,128 --> 00:22:11,631 "for Christmas. Let's go up there and see all my family." 427 00:22:13,133 --> 00:22:15,468 [Winnie] She was very excited to go, 428 00:22:15,502 --> 00:22:17,537 and I think that she hoped 429 00:22:17,570 --> 00:22:20,106 that they would leave this problem behind 430 00:22:20,140 --> 00:22:22,142 and just enjoy themselves for a while 431 00:22:22,175 --> 00:22:25,679 and recommit to each other and the marriage. 432 00:22:28,682 --> 00:22:30,450 [Narrator] In light of these revelations, 433 00:22:30,483 --> 00:22:35,088 Michael Kariakis is now investigators' primary suspect. 434 00:22:35,989 --> 00:22:37,791 When they run a background check, 435 00:22:37,824 --> 00:22:41,928 they discover that Michael is no stranger to the law. 436 00:22:43,129 --> 00:22:47,100 [Michael] We actually was able to run Michael Kariakis' name 437 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:49,936 through NCIC, and lo and behold, there was a warrant 438 00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:52,672 for his arrest, that he was involved in 439 00:22:52,706 --> 00:22:57,877 the burglary theft of his mother's residence. 440 00:22:59,245 --> 00:23:01,214 [Narrator] Investigators also discover 441 00:23:01,247 --> 00:23:05,285 that Michael Kariakis drives a silver Nissan sedan, 442 00:23:07,053 --> 00:23:11,291 the same vehicle seen fleeing the area of Nelda's murder. 443 00:23:12,292 --> 00:23:15,061 The person in the car was a tall, slender, 444 00:23:15,061 --> 00:23:21,067 dark-headed young man, and Michael was tall, about 6'1, 445 00:23:21,301 --> 00:23:23,069 dark-headed and thin. 446 00:23:24,471 --> 00:23:26,773 So, we had a warrant for his arrest. 447 00:23:26,806 --> 00:23:29,409 Immediately, we started searching for him. 448 00:23:30,076 --> 00:23:32,112 From our information, he'd been staying down 449 00:23:32,145 --> 00:23:34,981 in Tampa area, and come to find out in the meantime, 450 00:23:35,081 --> 00:23:38,118 they had arrested him, on our warrants, 451 00:23:38,151 --> 00:23:39,519 in Tampa, Florida, 452 00:23:39,886 --> 00:23:41,988 and they were holding him down there. 453 00:23:43,089 --> 00:23:44,991 [Narrator] Investigators secure a warrant 454 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:46,726 to search Michael's residence. 455 00:23:47,093 --> 00:23:48,828 When they arrive at his apartment, 456 00:23:48,862 --> 00:23:51,998 they are surprised to find a woman living there. 457 00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:56,703 [Donald] In his apartment, there's a girl named Holly. 458 00:23:56,736 --> 00:23:58,538 She's tall, and she's thin, 459 00:23:58,972 --> 00:24:01,341 and she's not really pleased that we're there. 460 00:24:02,308 --> 00:24:04,210 She told us Michael was her husband. 461 00:24:04,244 --> 00:24:06,279 I said, "That's interesting. I didn't know 462 00:24:06,312 --> 00:24:07,514 Michael was married." 463 00:24:08,915 --> 00:24:11,084 [Narrator] When investigators ask Holly for her whereabouts 464 00:24:11,117 --> 00:24:13,820 on December 27th, she claims that she 465 00:24:13,853 --> 00:24:15,855 and her husband were visiting family 466 00:24:15,889 --> 00:24:18,525 in Clarksville, Tennessee, for the holidays. 467 00:24:19,192 --> 00:24:21,394 They had receipts where they had been 468 00:24:21,428 --> 00:24:23,697 with Michael Kariakis' name on it. 469 00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:26,733 [Narrator] Investigators serve Holly with their warrant 470 00:24:26,766 --> 00:24:28,401 and begin to search the home. 471 00:24:29,069 --> 00:24:30,770 In the living room, they make 472 00:24:30,804 --> 00:24:33,973 an intriguing discovery on the coffee table 473 00:24:35,075 --> 00:24:37,744 [Donald] Lo and behold, I saw the cigarettes, 474 00:24:38,745 --> 00:24:41,648 the same type of cigarettes, brand name cigarettes, 475 00:24:41,681 --> 00:24:44,217 that matched the cigarette buts at the scene. 476 00:24:45,752 --> 00:24:47,787 The cigarettes have a stamp on 'em, 477 00:24:47,821 --> 00:24:50,156 indicates what state they're sold in, 478 00:24:50,190 --> 00:24:52,826 and these cigarettes were sold in Kentucky. 479 00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:57,097 That enhanced my suspicions really well. 480 00:24:58,098 --> 00:25:01,267 That in itself is not prima facieevidence, 481 00:25:01,301 --> 00:25:02,936 but it is circumstantial. 482 00:25:04,037 --> 00:25:06,806 [Narrator] Investigators decide to bring Holly Kariakis 483 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,475 in for questioning. 484 00:25:08,508 --> 00:25:11,044 I was thinking, "This is incredible. 485 00:25:11,044 --> 00:25:12,746 "The puzzle is coming together." 486 00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:17,083 [Narrator] Coming up. 487 00:25:17,117 --> 00:25:18,418 The true nature 488 00:25:18,451 --> 00:25:21,321 of Michael Kariakis's relationship to the Chumblers 489 00:25:21,354 --> 00:25:25,258 will completely alter the course of the investigation. 490 00:25:30,697 --> 00:25:32,699 He was basically obsessed with him. 491 00:25:32,732 --> 00:25:34,801 It just kept getting weirder and weirder. 492 00:25:36,069 --> 00:25:38,238 [music] 493 00:25:45,111 --> 00:25:48,148 [Narrator] Less than a week after the fatal shooting 494 00:25:48,181 --> 00:25:49,349 of Nelda Chumbler, 495 00:25:50,183 --> 00:25:53,186 the primary suspects are Michael Kariakis, 496 00:25:53,219 --> 00:25:56,489 the long-lost son of Nelda's husband, Charles, 497 00:25:56,523 --> 00:25:58,692 and Michael's wife, Holly. 498 00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:04,230 Kentucky authorities are investigating Holly's claims 499 00:26:04,264 --> 00:26:06,132 that the couple was two hours away 500 00:26:06,166 --> 00:26:09,569 in Clarksville, Tennessee, on the night of the murder. 501 00:26:10,036 --> 00:26:12,238 [Donald] So, we called the Clarksville Motel, 502 00:26:12,939 --> 00:26:14,674 and the clerk said, "That's weird. 503 00:26:14,708 --> 00:26:18,044 "The guy paid for the room and left, didn't stay." 504 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:22,549 Well, at that time, it was a bombshell in my mind. 505 00:26:23,083 --> 00:26:26,519 We got to be able to put them in this area, some way. 506 00:26:26,553 --> 00:26:28,321 Because we didn't have any evidence 507 00:26:28,355 --> 00:26:30,457 that they were there at this time. 508 00:26:31,091 --> 00:26:35,061 So, we had our deputies go around to different hotels 509 00:26:35,095 --> 00:26:37,931 trying to figure out if they'd stayed there. 510 00:26:37,964 --> 00:26:42,135 And sure enough, we was able to find one hotel, 511 00:26:42,168 --> 00:26:43,536 The Thrifty Inn. 512 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:46,606 The Thrifty Inn is not very far from the scene. 513 00:26:47,073 --> 00:26:50,610 The girl at the motel said she remembered a guy 514 00:26:50,643 --> 00:26:52,312 fitting that description coming in. 515 00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:56,182 She said he was tall, about six-foot, dark hair, 516 00:26:56,683 --> 00:26:58,084 and he had a moustache. 517 00:26:58,818 --> 00:27:00,820 I asked her, "Was there anybody with Michael?" 518 00:27:00,854 --> 00:27:02,489 And she said, "Yeah, there was a lady, 519 00:27:03,390 --> 00:27:05,525 "and she looked to be in her early 20's, 520 00:27:05,558 --> 00:27:07,594 "and she was tall and skinny." 521 00:27:08,495 --> 00:27:12,499 So, that put Holly, in the car, with Michael. 522 00:27:15,168 --> 00:27:17,671 [Narrator] Investigators decide it's finally time 523 00:27:17,704 --> 00:27:21,041 to confront Michael, but he's less than cooperative 524 00:27:21,041 --> 00:27:24,477 and denies any involvement in Nelda's murder. 525 00:27:25,578 --> 00:27:28,415 When investigators process Michael's belongings, 526 00:27:28,448 --> 00:27:29,849 they catch a break. 527 00:27:30,583 --> 00:27:33,853 They've arrested him, and we asked to look at his property, 528 00:27:34,387 --> 00:27:36,623 and I was looking through his billfold, 529 00:27:36,656 --> 00:27:40,360 and lo and behold, I pulled out a business card 530 00:27:40,393 --> 00:27:44,464 from a local gun shop there in Tampa, 531 00:27:44,497 --> 00:27:47,400 and I said, "Surely, he's not this stupid 532 00:27:47,434 --> 00:27:49,069 "to have this on him." 533 00:27:49,836 --> 00:27:53,206 We made a phone call to the owner, 534 00:27:53,239 --> 00:27:56,643 and sure enough, he remembered him right off the bat. 535 00:27:57,711 --> 00:28:02,015 He confirmed that he had sold a custom-made rifle 536 00:28:02,382 --> 00:28:04,551 to Mr. Kariakis. 537 00:28:06,419 --> 00:28:09,756 It was a one-of-a-kind-built rifle. 538 00:28:09,789 --> 00:28:11,825 Michael gave him seven hundred for it. 539 00:28:12,659 --> 00:28:14,427 [Narrator] A ccording to the gun shop owner, 540 00:28:14,461 --> 00:28:17,464 Michael had a specific use in mind for the weapon. 541 00:28:18,164 --> 00:28:21,401 He said he was going to go deer hunting in Kentucky. 542 00:28:22,635 --> 00:28:25,438 [Michael] We know that Michael bought a firearm, 543 00:28:25,472 --> 00:28:27,807 we know he was going to Kentucky, 544 00:28:28,208 --> 00:28:30,143 and he was going to kill him a deer. 545 00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:32,445 Was that a two-legged deer? 546 00:28:35,648 --> 00:28:37,650 [Narrator] Investigators decide to follow up 547 00:28:37,684 --> 00:28:39,152 with Charles's family 548 00:28:39,185 --> 00:28:41,921 to ask if they have ever met Michael Kariakis. 549 00:28:42,622 --> 00:28:45,692 that's when they drop an unexpected bombshell 550 00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:48,762 about Charles's relationship with Michael. 551 00:28:49,462 --> 00:28:51,531 [Donald] I had a telephone conversation 552 00:28:51,564 --> 00:28:53,333 with Bill Mathis, 553 00:28:53,366 --> 00:28:56,703 who was Charles' son-in-law, and he told me 554 00:28:56,736 --> 00:28:59,072 that he thought they had a romantic relationship. 555 00:29:01,408 --> 00:29:04,010 I was stunned. I said, "Really?" 556 00:29:04,577 --> 00:29:06,346 [Narrator] According to Charles's family, 557 00:29:06,379 --> 00:29:09,783 Michael is not his son, but his lover. 558 00:29:10,483 --> 00:29:12,686 I'd understood that Charles met Michael 559 00:29:12,719 --> 00:29:14,387 when he was 16 years old. 560 00:29:14,921 --> 00:29:17,090 Michael worked in tobacco farming 561 00:29:17,123 --> 00:29:18,725 at Charles's home. 562 00:29:19,626 --> 00:29:21,861 There's a big age difference between the two of 'em. 563 00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:25,899 [Donna] I only met Michael about three times. 564 00:29:26,666 --> 00:29:30,236 I knew, immediately, when I took a look at Michael 565 00:29:30,270 --> 00:29:32,205 and the way he was acting and everything, 566 00:29:32,238 --> 00:29:36,476 that it was probably a lover, you know. It had to be. 567 00:29:37,644 --> 00:29:41,081 Both of them argued that they were just friends. 568 00:29:41,614 --> 00:29:45,118 But I knew in my heart it wasn't. It was different. 569 00:29:46,086 --> 00:29:48,355 Charles was basically obsessed with Michael. 570 00:29:49,089 --> 00:29:53,526 [David] He's a young, physically attractive man 571 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,464 sucking up to an older man who feels the need 572 00:29:57,497 --> 00:30:01,801 to care for him and to pay for his whims. 573 00:30:03,370 --> 00:30:06,006 Michael hit Charles up for money constantly, 574 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:07,240 day and night. 575 00:30:08,541 --> 00:30:09,676 [Donna] Charles, I think he would do anything Michael 576 00:30:09,709 --> 00:30:11,745 told him to do. He was just that way. 577 00:30:11,778 --> 00:30:13,713 Michael had that control over him. 578 00:30:14,781 --> 00:30:16,916 Charles only had a few hundred dollars to his name 579 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:18,985 when he moved to Florida. He was broke. 580 00:30:20,153 --> 00:30:22,522 [Bill] He came back to Kentucky, 581 00:30:22,555 --> 00:30:25,258 and he said he was going to declare bankruptcy, 582 00:30:25,859 --> 00:30:28,361 then marry Nelda. Up until that time, 583 00:30:28,395 --> 00:30:29,763 I'd never really even heard of Nelda. 584 00:30:29,796 --> 00:30:31,331 It was just, kind of, out of the blue. 585 00:30:31,364 --> 00:30:32,799 I was like, "Wow." 586 00:30:33,667 --> 00:30:35,001 [Donna] I think the whole family 587 00:30:35,035 --> 00:30:37,904 thought he was turning over a new leaf. 588 00:30:38,805 --> 00:30:42,642 Michael was out of the picture as far as we knew. 589 00:30:42,676 --> 00:30:45,578 So, we thought maybe he was changing 590 00:30:46,312 --> 00:30:50,583 and that he really wanted to, you know, be married to Nelda. 591 00:30:53,987 --> 00:30:55,989 [Narrator] Investigators need more evidence 592 00:30:56,022 --> 00:30:59,359 to prove the affair and to determine if Michael 593 00:30:59,392 --> 00:31:02,562 acted on his own volition or if Charles 594 00:31:02,595 --> 00:31:04,798 was involved in the plan. 595 00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:07,267 [Michael] I was given some information 596 00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:11,071 that I needed to look out back at Nelda and Charles's house 597 00:31:11,604 --> 00:31:16,776 and look in the backyard for a very large dishpan. 598 00:31:16,810 --> 00:31:18,645 Didn't really know what I was going to find. 599 00:31:18,678 --> 00:31:21,581 I thought, "Well heck, you know, who knows?" 600 00:31:22,882 --> 00:31:25,485 [Donald] So, we had to do the search warrant for the house 601 00:31:26,286 --> 00:31:27,654 and we go in the backyard. 602 00:31:28,188 --> 00:31:30,323 [Michael] So, I got back there, and sure enough, 603 00:31:30,357 --> 00:31:32,659 I found this very large dishpan, 604 00:31:32,692 --> 00:31:35,161 and I said, "Well, let's dig it up." 605 00:31:35,995 --> 00:31:37,964 [Donald] And I turned the washtub over 606 00:31:37,997 --> 00:31:42,736 and underneath the washtub, is freshly turned dirt. 607 00:31:43,536 --> 00:31:45,939 I said, "That's unusual that you'd have 608 00:31:45,972 --> 00:31:48,908 "freshly turned dirt this time of year, even in Florida" 609 00:31:48,942 --> 00:31:51,378 And I dig down about a foot and a half 610 00:31:52,212 --> 00:31:53,646 and I find a box. 611 00:31:57,117 --> 00:32:01,421 In that box are photographs of Michael and Charles. 612 00:32:02,856 --> 00:32:06,459 They are kissing and in romantic positions 613 00:32:07,327 --> 00:32:08,762 and sex toys. 614 00:32:10,764 --> 00:32:12,799 [Michael] We felt like this evidence kind of 615 00:32:12,832 --> 00:32:16,269 concurred with evidence and the information 616 00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:17,570 that we already had 617 00:32:17,604 --> 00:32:20,373 about Michael and Charles's relationships. 618 00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:25,979 The further we went, the more we believed 619 00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:29,082 that they were in it together to murder Nelda, 620 00:32:29,716 --> 00:32:31,785 and we had to have a motive behind it. 621 00:32:32,419 --> 00:32:36,156 [Narrator] Investigators believe that Nelda's assets hold the key 622 00:32:36,189 --> 00:32:37,390 to the motive. 623 00:32:38,091 --> 00:32:41,761 We found out she had a life insurance policy 624 00:32:41,795 --> 00:32:45,198 that doubled as an accidental policy. 625 00:32:46,199 --> 00:32:51,471 She took out, at his insistence, a $35,000 life insurance policy 626 00:32:51,504 --> 00:32:54,107 that would pay $70,000 to Charles 627 00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:55,875 if she died accidentally. 628 00:32:57,410 --> 00:32:59,746 I thought, "Wow. The motive's money." 629 00:33:01,381 --> 00:33:03,917 [music] 630 00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:09,089 [music] 631 00:33:11,391 --> 00:33:13,893 [Narrator] One month into the murder investigation 632 00:33:13,927 --> 00:33:16,796 of Nelda Chumbler, authorities have discovered 633 00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:19,699 an illicit affair between her husband, Charles, 634 00:33:19,733 --> 00:33:22,702 and Michael Kariakis, whom she believed 635 00:33:22,736 --> 00:33:24,204 to be her son-in-law. 636 00:33:24,971 --> 00:33:27,207 The discovery of a life insurance policy 637 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,510 has shaped the theory that Charles's marriage to Nelda 638 00:33:30,543 --> 00:33:34,647 was simply a long con to profit from her death. 639 00:33:36,082 --> 00:33:39,519 [Michael] They'd already just about broke Nelda financially. 640 00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:44,090 We believed that they were in it together, to murder Nelda. 641 00:33:47,127 --> 00:33:49,095 [Narrator] Based on family statements, 642 00:33:49,095 --> 00:33:51,765 investigators believe Michael's wife, Holly, 643 00:33:51,798 --> 00:33:54,901 was a pawn in Michael and Charles's plot. 644 00:33:55,735 --> 00:33:57,003 [Donna] Holly was a front. 645 00:33:57,103 --> 00:33:59,105 Michael was always good at having a front. 646 00:34:01,041 --> 00:34:03,877 I wonder if Holly knew what she was getting into. 647 00:34:04,511 --> 00:34:05,945 I've always wondered that. 648 00:34:06,746 --> 00:34:09,049 Holly was just along for the ride, 649 00:34:09,816 --> 00:34:12,052 and she was doing what her husband told her. 650 00:34:12,052 --> 00:34:16,056 But investigators believe she was the getaway driver. 651 00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:19,292 [Donald] Now, at this point, in my mind, 652 00:34:19,325 --> 00:34:23,296 I've got enough evidence to tie Michael and Charles and Holly 653 00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:27,200 all in this homicide conspiracy together. 654 00:34:27,767 --> 00:34:30,804 We go to the Grand Jury, we get the indictments. 655 00:34:31,705 --> 00:34:34,874 We had to extradite them back to Paducah. 656 00:34:36,276 --> 00:34:39,079 [Man] Michael Kariakis is charged with murder. 657 00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:41,514 The state says he hid in this shed 658 00:34:41,548 --> 00:34:43,216 and fired a high-powered rifle shot 659 00:34:43,249 --> 00:34:44,851 through the Florida school teacher 660 00:34:44,884 --> 00:34:46,619 as she stood by this fence. 661 00:34:46,953 --> 00:34:48,655 Charles Chumbler, her husband, 662 00:34:48,688 --> 00:34:50,657 is charged with complicity to murder. 663 00:34:50,690 --> 00:34:52,992 The prosecution says Chumbler led his wife 664 00:34:53,093 --> 00:34:54,761 into Kariakis's gun sights. 665 00:34:54,794 --> 00:34:56,696 Holly Kariakis, Michael's wife, 666 00:34:56,730 --> 00:34:58,765 is charged with complicity to murder. 667 00:34:58,798 --> 00:35:01,234 The state will try to prove that she came to Paducah 668 00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:04,070 with her husband when Nelda Chumbler was killed. 669 00:35:04,104 --> 00:35:09,709 What started out as a reported accidental shooting, 670 00:35:11,177 --> 00:35:13,646 turned out to be this onion that you keep peeling 671 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,715 layers back and peeling layers back. 672 00:35:16,049 --> 00:35:17,584 Supposedly they were lovers, 673 00:35:17,617 --> 00:35:20,553 and it's just getting crazier and crazier. 674 00:35:21,454 --> 00:35:24,424 The planning of it and just the backstory of it 675 00:35:24,457 --> 00:35:28,128 was just unbelievable. It's what movies are made of. 676 00:35:29,829 --> 00:35:31,564 [Winnie] I couldn't believe it. I was stunned. 677 00:35:32,165 --> 00:35:35,669 All the things I thought I knew about Charles disappeared. 678 00:35:36,503 --> 00:35:39,372 He became a narcissistic psychopath 679 00:35:40,106 --> 00:35:43,143 who would stop at nothing to get what he wanted. 680 00:35:45,311 --> 00:35:48,548 [Narrator] Less than a year after Nelda Chumbler's death, 681 00:35:48,581 --> 00:35:50,784 on October 8th, 1991, 682 00:35:51,117 --> 00:35:54,087 the defendants' joint trial gets underway. 683 00:35:54,788 --> 00:35:57,223 Prosecutors say the plot to murder Nelda 684 00:35:57,257 --> 00:36:01,928 was driven by Michael's greed coupled with Charles's lust. 685 00:36:03,063 --> 00:36:06,399 There was an insatiable need for money for Michael, 686 00:36:07,033 --> 00:36:08,335 for whatever Michael needed. 687 00:36:08,368 --> 00:36:11,771 The car, the place to live, the lifestyle, 688 00:36:11,805 --> 00:36:16,042 whatever it was, Michael was given it by Charles, 689 00:36:16,076 --> 00:36:18,712 and no matter how he had to get it. 690 00:36:19,813 --> 00:36:21,648 [Donna] I know Charles well enough to know 691 00:36:21,681 --> 00:36:22,916 that if he's in love with somebody, 692 00:36:22,949 --> 00:36:25,452 he'll do anything that they want him to do. 693 00:36:26,353 --> 00:36:28,621 [Narrator] Prosecutors assert that after Charles 694 00:36:28,655 --> 00:36:31,157 charmed Nelda, Michael entered their lives 695 00:36:31,191 --> 00:36:33,660 under the guise of being Charles's long-lost, 696 00:36:33,693 --> 00:36:35,295 cancer-stricken son. 697 00:36:36,563 --> 00:36:40,567 Nelda dug deep in her own financial worth 698 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,636 to provide for Michael's cancer treatments. 699 00:36:44,270 --> 00:36:47,841 To use somebody like that, based on a lie, 700 00:36:47,874 --> 00:36:51,244 is unconscionable. 701 00:36:52,312 --> 00:36:54,180 [Michael] He played upon her vulnerability, 702 00:36:54,214 --> 00:36:57,484 and Michael was there to drain Nelda 703 00:36:57,517 --> 00:36:58,952 with every penny she had. 704 00:36:59,919 --> 00:37:02,455 But when the money run out, they got desperate. 705 00:37:03,289 --> 00:37:07,327 And I think that started the spiral 706 00:37:08,294 --> 00:37:09,896 of their plan, 707 00:37:10,563 --> 00:37:12,298 to get Nelda's life insurance. 708 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:15,435 [Narrator] Under the pretense 709 00:37:15,468 --> 00:37:17,404 of a family vacation to Kentucky, 710 00:37:17,437 --> 00:37:21,875 prosecutors say Charles lured Nelda into an ambush. 711 00:37:22,609 --> 00:37:25,045 Michael Kariakis bought this gun, 712 00:37:25,745 --> 00:37:28,748 took his wife, Holly, on an overnight drive 713 00:37:28,782 --> 00:37:32,052 from Tampa to the Chumbler farm, 714 00:37:33,353 --> 00:37:38,058 and he hid in a shed not far from the main house. 715 00:37:39,292 --> 00:37:42,095 [Donald] Charles has his four-year-old grandson with him. 716 00:37:42,862 --> 00:37:45,065 Tells his parents that we're gonna stop, 717 00:37:45,065 --> 00:37:47,867 and I'm gonna show the horses to Nelda. 718 00:37:49,135 --> 00:37:51,071 They drive down the road just a little piece 719 00:37:51,071 --> 00:37:54,240 to where the barn is and where the horses are at. 720 00:37:56,076 --> 00:37:59,713 [David] Charles told Nelda to stay where she was, 721 00:37:59,746 --> 00:38:01,881 that he and his grandson were gonna go ahead 722 00:38:01,915 --> 00:38:04,184 and feed the horses themselves. 723 00:38:04,751 --> 00:38:08,455 Michael fired two shots from the shed. 724 00:38:09,022 --> 00:38:10,890 The first one missed. 725 00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:15,762 And then Michael Kariakis shot and killed Nelda Chumbler. 726 00:38:21,701 --> 00:38:24,571 Holly was in the car with Michael, trying to escape 727 00:38:24,938 --> 00:38:28,274 as rescue squads were descending upon 728 00:38:28,308 --> 00:38:32,312 Nelda in the snow. So, she was obviously on scene. 729 00:38:35,115 --> 00:38:38,418 I'm certain from the word go they thought they were going to 730 00:38:38,451 --> 00:38:39,886 get away with it. 731 00:38:43,556 --> 00:38:45,291 [Donald] The gun was never recovered, 732 00:38:46,092 --> 00:38:48,828 and I suspect that Michael probably threw it 733 00:38:48,862 --> 00:38:51,064 in a river or the lake. 734 00:38:51,965 --> 00:38:53,900 Lots of water between here and Florida. 735 00:38:55,068 --> 00:38:59,172 [David] They were also able to take cigarette butts 736 00:38:59,205 --> 00:39:00,907 left in the shed, 737 00:39:01,541 --> 00:39:03,276 send them off to the FBI, 738 00:39:03,309 --> 00:39:07,714 and confirm the identity of Michael Kariakis. 739 00:39:10,417 --> 00:39:12,719 [Narrator] Taking the stand on his own behalf, 740 00:39:12,752 --> 00:39:16,022 Charles denies being in a sexual relationship 741 00:39:16,056 --> 00:39:17,290 with Michael. 742 00:39:23,129 --> 00:39:25,699 Charles maintains that Nelda was killed 743 00:39:25,732 --> 00:39:27,867 in a tragic hunting accident. 744 00:39:38,311 --> 00:39:41,614 Charles made sure he looked like the innocent party. 745 00:39:42,482 --> 00:39:44,918 [Narrator] When the prosecution calls two of Charles's 746 00:39:44,951 --> 00:39:48,655 former students to testify, they provide information 747 00:39:48,688 --> 00:39:51,725 that contradicts his deep love for his wife. 748 00:39:52,325 --> 00:39:54,894 Charles goes to a couple of his students one day 749 00:39:54,928 --> 00:39:56,796 and said, "I hate her. I wish she was dead. 750 00:39:57,063 --> 00:39:58,665 "Could you kill her for me?" 751 00:40:00,033 --> 00:40:01,835 And he said, "I'll give you ten percent 752 00:40:01,868 --> 00:40:03,737 of her life insurance policy." 753 00:40:19,753 --> 00:40:22,088 I really thought, "You've got to be kidding me." 754 00:40:22,789 --> 00:40:24,324 [Donald] They thought he was pulling their leg, 755 00:40:24,357 --> 00:40:26,760 and they didn't say anything to anybody about it. 756 00:40:26,793 --> 00:40:28,428 They said they wished they had've now, 757 00:40:28,461 --> 00:40:30,296 knowing that Nelda is gone. 758 00:40:31,331 --> 00:40:33,900 [Narrator] Like Charles, Michael and Holly Kariakis 759 00:40:33,933 --> 00:40:36,269 also take the stand in their defense. 760 00:41:09,402 --> 00:41:11,938 [Jerry] All of the evidence points to 761 00:41:11,971 --> 00:41:14,107 you having a high-powered rifle, 762 00:41:14,140 --> 00:41:16,876 you bringing your spouse to Kentucky, 763 00:41:17,544 --> 00:41:22,082 taking her to this area and setting up that homicide. 764 00:41:22,916 --> 00:41:26,419 And so, I think the jury from McCracken County 765 00:41:26,453 --> 00:41:27,754 saw through that. 766 00:41:29,122 --> 00:41:34,327 [Narrator] On October 29, 1991, the jury returns their verdict. 767 00:41:56,383 --> 00:41:59,953 [David] Michael Kariakis and Charles Chumbler 768 00:42:00,787 --> 00:42:06,259 were both sentenced to 25 years to life 769 00:42:06,292 --> 00:42:07,727 with no chance at parole. 770 00:42:08,361 --> 00:42:11,898 Holly, I believe, got a slightly lesser sentence. 771 00:42:15,268 --> 00:42:18,838 [Narrator] In 1995, the Kentucky Supreme Court 772 00:42:18,872 --> 00:42:20,607 overturns the convictions 773 00:42:21,107 --> 00:42:23,843 finding the prosecution's portrayal of Michael 774 00:42:23,877 --> 00:42:28,081 and Charles's alleged sexual history overly prejudicial. 775 00:42:28,948 --> 00:42:31,785 Rather than try all three defendants again, 776 00:42:32,152 --> 00:42:34,721 prosecutors agree to an Alford plea deal 777 00:42:34,754 --> 00:42:36,289 for reduced sentences 778 00:42:36,856 --> 00:42:39,192 [Bill] Charles ended up serving maybe twelve years 779 00:42:39,225 --> 00:42:41,227 and Holly about eight or ten years. 780 00:42:41,261 --> 00:42:45,098 And Michael, I think, sixteen years. 781 00:42:45,999 --> 00:42:50,637 Charles and Michael and Holly do not deserve 782 00:42:51,104 --> 00:42:54,140 to breathe the same air that you and I breathe. 783 00:42:55,308 --> 00:42:59,346 My wife, she says, "Why are you doing this?" 784 00:43:00,146 --> 00:43:03,049 Because I don't want people to forget Nelda. 785 00:43:03,416 --> 00:43:04,918 'Cause she's the victim here. 786 00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:07,887 [Bill] I thought it was a bunch of crap. 787 00:43:07,921 --> 00:43:09,055 When you can kill somebody 788 00:43:09,055 --> 00:43:11,925 and not serve no more time than that 789 00:43:11,958 --> 00:43:13,426 then justice wasn't done. 790 00:43:14,461 --> 00:43:16,896 Nelda didn't get a reduced sentence. 791 00:43:18,164 --> 00:43:19,866 [Winnie] She wanted to be happy again, 792 00:43:19,899 --> 00:43:21,701 and she deserved to be happy again. 793 00:43:21,735 --> 00:43:23,336 But that's not what happened. 794 00:43:24,504 --> 00:43:27,874 She was denied her happiness for the rest of her life. 795 00:43:32,145 --> 00:43:38,084 [music]