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The serenity of the ozarks is
rocked
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When a cowboy is gunned down
in his home.
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[jermey] not knowing
who did it or why,
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It's like I was in a bad dream.
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[mike] he was a good person.
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He was always there
if you need something
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Or need somebody to talk to.
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[narrator] the lists
of suspects will grow
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As detectives dig deeper
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Into the victim's
off-the-grid lifestyle.
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I'm like, "somebody is gonna
kill you over that
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One of these days.
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My buddy's lying in there, dead,
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And somehow he knew
something about it.
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[narrator] the ensuing
investigation
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Will lead authorities
to a desperate couple
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Who will stop at nothing
to evade capture.
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Everything was to aid them
in starting a new life.
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She was his ride-or-die
and he was her protector.
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She could be being held
against her will.
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She could be
a willing participant.
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He became a monster that you did
not wanna go toe-to-toe with.
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[narrator] with its rugged hills
and deep valleys,
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The ozark mountain range
is a place of stunning beauty.
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But life on the fringes
of the ozarks
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Is a humble existence
for those who call it home.
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[wendy] lawrence county
is a very rural area
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In the northern part
of arkansas,
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Right along where the ozark
mountain range runs.
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There's a lot of very small
communities in that area.
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Agriculture is a driving force.
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Lots of farming,
lots of livestock.
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Very blue-collar, hardworking,
middle america.
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[dramatic stinger]
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[narrator] on the morning
of may 7th, 2020,
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Employees at a local ranch
grow concerned
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When 61-year-old
james "caveman" sartorelli
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Fails to arrive at work
for the second day.
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That morning, I got a phone call
from the owner of the farm,
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Saying somebody needs to go out
there and check on caveman now.
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Caveman lived in a trailer that
was actually on the property
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Of the farm where he worked.
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[mike] I pulled
into the driveway,
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And as I'm approaching
the front door,
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I just kept getting a more
eerier and eerier feeling.
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So, I went up to
and opened the door up,
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And the first thing I had seen
was just a puddle of blood.
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Caveman was down on the floor,
hunched over.
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You see that,
you just freeze for a minute,
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And then it starts hitting you.
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I backed up, and that's when
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I called the boss and told him
what I found,
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And then we called the police.
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[wendy] when the lawrence county
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Sheriff's department deputies
arrived,
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They entered the trailer
and they saw, pretty quickly,
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That is was
definitely a gruesome scene.
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Hey found the victim
on the floor
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In the trailer with
a gunshot wound to the head.
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They asked me
who the person was in there,
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And I explained to them
who caveman was.
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Explained to them where I was
and why I was there.
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I had all kinds of stuff
running through my head.
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"how could this happen?
Who did this? Why?"
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Caveman didn't deserve that.
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He was too good
of a man for that.
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[narrator] born on
December 17th, 1958,
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James sartorelli
had been known as caveman
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For as long as anyone
could remember.
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James sartorelli,
that was caveman.
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He was something else.
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He was a character.
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[jermey] caveman was
a small man.
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He, 5'10", maybe 115 pounds,
soaking wet.
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He was called caveman because o
his hair and his beard.
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He looked like
a small version of a caveman.
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Caveman always said
he's a ghost.
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He didn't use
a social security number.
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I know he didn't have
a driver's license.
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[pasha] he didn't have
a bank account.
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He didn't have a credit card.
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He was off the grid completely.
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[wendy] caveman wasn't
from arkansas.
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He was from new hampshire,
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But he was a big fan
of the outdoors
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And very drawn
to the beauty of the ozarks.
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[narrator] after settling down
in lawrence county,
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Caveman landed a job
as a ranch hand
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On a locally-owned cattle farm.
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I met caveman
for the first time,
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I'm going to say, in 2004.
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He found out
that our boss needed help
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And he had been there
ever since.
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Caveman was feeding
the livestock
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And just tending
to the general things
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That had to be done
around the farm.
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One could call them
arkansas cowboys.
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It's very hard work.
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[jermey] we liked to use
horses when we could,
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But definitely physical,
demanding, back-breaking.
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You're feeding hay.
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You're walking in mud
up to your knees,
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Just to bust open
water troughs or ponds.
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He did all the stuff that
nobody else really wanted to do.
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And he was an older guy.
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But he would get out there
and outwork the youngest person
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[mike] he was a good person
to talk to.
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He gave you good advice.
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He was always there when you
need something
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Or need somebody to talk to.
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[pasha] he was one
of the most intelligent men
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That I'd ever been around.
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He would talk about everything.
He was ex-marine.
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And he was a lineman.
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He owned two companies before
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And you could tell
that he lived a lot.
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He'd been married twice
and he had a daughter
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Up in new hampshire.
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And he also had a son
in massachusetts.
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He didn't keep much contact
with either one of the children
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[jermey] he really didn't talk
about his life a whole lot
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Before he got to arkansas.
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He kept to hisself
about that part.
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[narrator] after working
hard labor
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For more than 40 years,
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James was ready
to ride off into the sunset.
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[pasha] he loved
working on the farm.
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But he loved the thought
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Of retiring in December
even better.
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He was getting things done
to his camper.
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And he said he was gonna
sit back
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And watch all them drive by
to go to work.
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And he was just gonna sit there,
and watch them,
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And sip his coffee.
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[narrator] but only seven months
before his retirement,
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James is found shot to death
inside his trailer.
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In lawrence county,
homicide's not something
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That happens often.
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The lawrence county
sheriff's deputies
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Realized pretty quickly
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That a crime scene
of this nature
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Was a little bit outside
of their experience,
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So they called
the arkansas state police
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And requested their assistance.
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We responded to the scene
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Which was a very rural scene.
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The camper was on
a farmland area.
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There wasn't any houses around.
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There was no sign of any window
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Being ajarred or broken.
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The door was not forced open.
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So that led us to believe
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That james either let
the suspect in the residence
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Or the suspect just walked in,
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So that told us
that it was probably somebody
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That james knew.
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[creston] the camper residence
only had one door
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And that was from the front.
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One way in and one way out.
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On the table we observed,
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It looked like drug activity.
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There was drug paraphernalia.
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We had james' body
laying on the floor.
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There was a large pool
of blood underneath his body.
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We noticed that james had
a single gunshot wound
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Just below his right eye.
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That led us to start
looking for a shell casing.
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We looked for a shell casing.
We could not find it.
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One cushion had fell off
on the floor
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That had blood on it.
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But there was no evidence
of a struggle
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That we could find.
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[narrator] as detectives
study the scene more closely,
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They spot something
that may speak to the motive
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Behind james' murder.
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We made our way
toward the bedroom.
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We observed a collector's coin
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And we located a bank bag,
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Unzipped and completely empty,
lying on the floor.
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We also observed
that he had been using
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The refrigerator as a safe.
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And it was left open
and there was nothing in it,
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Which led us to believe
that he was probably robbed.
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That just left law enforcement
wondering,
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Who could've possibly done this
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[narrator] coming up,
detectives discover
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A mysterious text message
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That changes the course
of the investigation.
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And a troubled couple
lands at the top
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Of the suspect list.
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He totally
was controlling her mind.
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She did whatever
he told her to do.
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[narrator] in the ozarks
of arkansas,
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Friends of 61-year-old
ranch hand
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James "caveman" sartorelli
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Are mourning
his untimely murder.
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Not knowing what happened,
not knowing who did it,
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Or why, it's like
I was in a bad dream.
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That's family, man.
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[narrator] a ransacked safe
in the victim's trailer
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Leads detectives
to theorize his death
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Was likely the result
of a violent robbery.
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They first turn to the man who
initially alerted authorities.
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[wendy] it was incredibly
important for law enforcement
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To talk to the person
who made this discovery,
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Which was mike brawley.
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The officer approached me to
make a statement and all that.
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[tony] upon interviewing
mr. Brawley,
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He stated that james
stayed to himself.
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He never caused any problems.
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He was at work every day,
always showed up
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And never complained
about anything.
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[mike] caveman really didn't
have conflicts with nobody.
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He got along with pretty much
just about everybody.
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[narrator] detectives pivot
their line of questioning
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And ask mike how he came
to discover
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His friend's body.
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[mike] I explained to them,
I got a phone call
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From the owner of the farm.
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He just told me that somebody
needed to go check on caveman.
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[wendy] investigators
definitely wanted
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To talk to the farm owner
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And they didn't even
have to contact him.
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The owner of the property,
along with jermey chesser,
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Showed up at the scene.
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[jermey] when we pulled up
and there was a line,
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It looked like something that
you'd see in new york city,
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On our little country road.
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[narrator] jermey
and the ranch owner
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Confirmed mike's account
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Of what happened that morning.
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[jermey] it had been two days
since caveman had been to work,
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But caveman,
sometimes he would take,
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What he called, a sabbatical.
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He'd take him a little break
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Because he said,
"I got a young mind
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But a old body."
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He was gruff.
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He would definitely tell you
what he thought,
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Whether you liked it at all,
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But he had a heart
the size of texas.
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He would do anything for you.
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If you asked for anything,
he would give it to you.
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[narrator] based on the evidence
that james
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Was likely the victim
of a robbery gone wrong,
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Detectives ask his friends
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If they're aware of any
valuables he may have owned.
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[pasha] he was an outdoors guy.
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He loved his guns and shooting.
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All the rifles
and pistols were taken.
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[narrator] caveman's friends
also confirm
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His collection of rare
and valuable coins.
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Caveman collected coins,
a lot of rare coins,
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And all that,
and people knew that.
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[pasha] he was
a huge coin collector.
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We would sit and go look
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For hours and hours and hours
at his coins.
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[jermey] he had a book
that he would look up his coin.
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Every once in a while
he would make a trip to memphis
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With his coins.
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[pasha] he had a money bag
and he always kept it on him.
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Caveman always worked
for nothing but cash.
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He was flashing a lot of money.
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I'm like, "somebody is gonna
kill you over that [bleep]
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One of these days."
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[narrator] while they can't
think of anyone
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Who would want
to hurt their friend,
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Jermey reveals
that he had received
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A cryptic text message
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Earlier that morning.
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Jermey chesser told us
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He received a text
from andy capps.
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Andy capps,
he's a carpenter by trade
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And he knew caveman
probably longer than me,
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To be honest with you.
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He wasn't around much.
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[wendy] so although andy capps
didn't work with these guys,
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This is, again, a community
where everybody
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Knows everybody,
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So everyone was familiar
with andy.
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[jermey] and I showed him
my phone.
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All I got was that we needed
to check on caveman.
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I didn't know if he was beat up
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Or what was going on
because it didn't state.
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Putting two and two together,
it's pretty simple.
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My buddy's laying in there,
dead,
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And somehow
he knew something about it.
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So let's figure it out.
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[music]
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[music]
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[narrator] just hours
into the murder investigation
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Of 61-year-old
james "caveman" sartorelli,
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Arkansas state police
have keyed in
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On their first suspect,
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A local man named andy capps,
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After learning that andy alerte
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James' closest friends
to check on him
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Before his body was discovered.
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[jermey] after the detectives
seen the text
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That was on my phone,
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I told them where he lived at.
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00:16:51,210 --> 00:16:54,212
That led us to
andy capp's residence
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00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,447
Where we interviewed him.
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00:17:31,985 --> 00:17:33,851
Andy capps never stated
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That he knew that james
had been murdered.
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He was just concerned about hi.
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We noticed that, andy,
he was very standoffish.
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He just was not forthcoming
on his information,
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Which led us to believe
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That there was more to the story
than what he was telling.
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We just had red flags going off.
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[narrator] while andy swears
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He doesn't know what happened
to caveman,
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He says he may know why
he was targeted.
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Andy capps, he led us to believe
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00:18:26,739 --> 00:18:30,508
That james was
a big-time drug dealer.
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Any mention of drugs, no matter
how big, how small,
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It's gonna be something
that investigators
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Need to take a look at.
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[tony] during our investigation
of checking james,
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He had no criminal history,
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No traffic violations
on his record.
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He basically had a clean record
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00:18:56,602 --> 00:18:58,602
And never been arrested
for anything.
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[creston] his drug dealing
was minimal.
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He only sold to a select few
and generally it was marijuana.
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[narrator] but just as
the drug-deal-gone-bad angle
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Seemingly goes up in smoke,
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Detectives receive a tip
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That shifts attention back
to their most recent suspect.
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[creston] we received
information
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From a confidential informant
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Who informed us
that andy capps had texted him
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On the morning of may the 6th,
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And insinuated that andy capps
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Knew something
about this murder.
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[wendy] this text
was a little different
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00:19:35,641 --> 00:19:37,775
Than the one
that jermey had received
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Because this text indicated
that caveman might be dead.
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[creston] after receiving this
information,
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We knew that andy capps
wasn't being truthful
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In what he told us.
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[wendy] so when investigators
go to talk
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To this other person
who had called them,
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00:19:55,194 --> 00:19:57,795
He gives them
even more information.
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When we asked this informant
why andy capps
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Would text him that,
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He says andy and him
are friends,
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And andy trusts him.
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[narrator] the informant
tells detectives
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The 33-year-old hunter carlstro
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00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:49,046
Worked with caveman
on the cattle farm.
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00:20:49,415 --> 00:20:52,449
[jermey] hunter carlstrom,
he'd come in 2018.
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00:20:52,518 --> 00:20:56,354
Caveman got him a job
working with us.
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Caveman and him, of course,
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00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:02,292
Had apparently known
each other for a long time.
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I think caveman knew his dad.
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[wendy] this new revelation
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Sends investigators
back to andy capps
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00:21:08,734 --> 00:21:09,767
And they know
that they have to be
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A little bit more serious
this time.
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[narrator] the following
morning,
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Detectives bring andy capps
into the station
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For a formal interview.
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During the second interview,
andy was more nervous.
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We started presenting
a little bit more facts
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That we knew.
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We started pressuring him more.
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Andy told us that hunter
had borrowed the truck
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And while he had the truck,
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He had wrecked the truck
in sharp county
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Which is an adjoining county
to lawrence county.
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Caveman was a little agitated
at hunter
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For wrecking his feed truck.
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Hunter was supposed
to take it straight home
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And then straight
back to work the next morning
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'cause he didn't have a ride.
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A wrecked pick-up truck
doesn't equate to homicide
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In most instances.
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[narrator] but two days before
james' body was discovered,
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Andy says hunter
and his 23-year-old fiancé,
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Xaveriana cook,
showed up at his house
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With a disturbing story.
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00:22:48,267 --> 00:22:51,401
Andy stated
that hunter carlstrom
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00:22:51,403 --> 00:22:53,103
Did murder james,
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00:22:53,706 --> 00:22:57,675
And that carlstrom took
cash and weapons.
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Andy capps stated
that hunter wanted him
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To burn james' residence,
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Just to dispose of all
the evidence was there,
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To burn the body,
just whatever was there.
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00:23:47,827 --> 00:23:50,093
Andy agreed to take the money
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00:23:50,162 --> 00:23:52,696
Because he was afraid
that hunter was gonna kill him
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00:23:52,764 --> 00:23:53,997
If he refused.
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[narrator] detectives press andy
about
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Hunter's fiancé
xaveriana's role in the murder,
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00:23:59,638 --> 00:24:02,606
But he believes
she wasn't involved.
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00:24:45,050 --> 00:24:48,285
Andy capps is charged
with hindering apprehension
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00:24:48,353 --> 00:24:50,353
For initially lying to police.
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00:24:50,623 --> 00:24:52,856
But before he's hauled away,
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00:24:52,924 --> 00:24:55,625
He drops one last bombshell.
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00:24:55,627 --> 00:24:56,960
[creston] andy capps told us
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00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:59,363
That he didn't believe
that hunter carlstrom
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00:24:59,431 --> 00:25:01,164
Would just surrender easily,
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00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:03,533
That he would shoot it out
with the police.
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00:25:03,603 --> 00:25:05,002
It's alarming.
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00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:06,503
[jermey] he said,
whatever it's gonna take,
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00:25:06,572 --> 00:25:08,739
He would never go back
to prison.
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00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:15,078
Something of this nature,
we always go
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00:25:15,147 --> 00:25:16,980
On a very high alert,
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00:25:17,049 --> 00:25:19,617
Knowing that this is
a very dangerous person
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00:25:19,619 --> 00:25:21,919
That we are going to encounter.
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00:25:24,657 --> 00:25:26,990
[narrator] coming up,
law enforcement agents
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00:25:26,992 --> 00:25:30,227
Are sent on a manhunt
across state lines.
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00:25:33,732 --> 00:25:36,634
And we knew
that our time was running out.
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00:25:37,102 --> 00:25:38,536
[narrator] and before it's over,
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00:25:38,604 --> 00:25:41,038
More bodies will fall.
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He stayed very true to his word.
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[music]
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00:25:52,718 --> 00:25:54,585
[music]
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00:25:56,255 --> 00:25:58,689
[narrator] five days after
finding the body
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Of james "caveman" sartorelli,
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00:26:01,126 --> 00:26:04,894
Detectives have identified
33-year-old hunter carlstrom
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00:26:04,964 --> 00:26:07,097
As their primary suspect.
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00:26:08,167 --> 00:26:11,201
Arkansas state police
begin digging into hunter
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00:26:11,270 --> 00:26:15,306
And his 23-year-old fiancé
xaveriana cook.
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00:26:16,308 --> 00:26:17,975
At this point,
the police start trying
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00:26:18,043 --> 00:26:20,777
To understand hunter
and where he comes from,
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00:26:20,846 --> 00:26:23,880
And they found that
he was actually from
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00:26:23,949 --> 00:26:25,849
Rockford, illinois.
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00:26:26,852 --> 00:26:30,087
Xaveriana was also
from rockford.
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00:26:30,756 --> 00:26:33,623
The arkansas police
got in contact with me
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00:26:33,625 --> 00:26:36,293
And explained to me
what was going on,
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00:26:36,362 --> 00:26:40,531
And that, now, the police
were looking for hunter
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00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,199
And xaveriana.
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00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:46,737
I was so shocked.
I was a loss for words.
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00:26:48,073 --> 00:26:49,873
[narrator] while xaveriana's
mother
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00:26:49,875 --> 00:26:52,275
Hasn't seen xaveriana or hunter
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00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:54,745
She offers detectives
more details
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00:26:54,813 --> 00:26:56,113
About the couple.
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00:26:58,317 --> 00:27:00,584
[amanda] xaveriana was born
and raised
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00:27:00,586 --> 00:27:01,985
In rockford, illinois.
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00:27:02,054 --> 00:27:05,322
She had two brothers
and a sister,
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00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:07,224
And they were all very close.
447
00:27:07,826 --> 00:27:11,328
We were all a very close family
448
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:15,031
She was a happy kid, growing up,
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00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:16,733
Had a good childhood.
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00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:20,036
[amanda] she went to school
with the brother of hunter.
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00:27:20,105 --> 00:27:24,207
And he introduced
his brother to he.
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00:27:24,543 --> 00:27:27,011
So that is how they met
each other.
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00:27:28,113 --> 00:27:30,881
Hunter had a little bit
of a troubled childhood
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00:27:30,949 --> 00:27:32,983
And had some troubles
in high school.
455
00:27:33,052 --> 00:27:35,852
And after that, it didn't get
a lot better for him.
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00:27:35,921 --> 00:27:37,854
He had spent
some time in prison,
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00:27:37,923 --> 00:27:42,459
Not just for minor offenses,
some pretty serious time.
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00:27:42,995 --> 00:27:46,263
[amanda] xaveriana told me
that she was dating hunter
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00:27:46,265 --> 00:27:49,767
And that he had been
in prison before.
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00:27:49,769 --> 00:27:52,970
That worried me.
That's my daughter.
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00:27:53,038 --> 00:27:57,574
And I just watched him
and his actions
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00:27:57,642 --> 00:27:58,875
Towards my daughter.
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00:27:58,877 --> 00:28:01,645
And he was very loving to her.
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00:28:02,381 --> 00:28:04,982
He seemed like he would
do anything for her.
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00:28:05,751 --> 00:28:09,386
[amanda] I think hunter,
seeing that, xaveriana,
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00:28:09,454 --> 00:28:13,924
She was a very loving person
and had a very big heart,
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00:28:13,992 --> 00:28:17,695
And I think hunter
liked that about her.
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00:28:19,765 --> 00:28:23,634
[narrator] in 2018,
the couple moved to arkansas
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00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:25,703
Where hunter's father
helped his son
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00:28:25,771 --> 00:28:28,171
Get a job
working on the cattle farm.
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00:28:28,573 --> 00:28:31,574
[jermey] we all worked a lot
together on the farm.
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00:28:31,576 --> 00:28:35,245
I actually thought that hunter
was changing his life.
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00:28:37,282 --> 00:28:40,651
He was a hard worker,
stout as an ox,
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00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:42,052
And could cook.
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00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,454
Believe it or not,
at some point in time,
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00:28:43,522 --> 00:28:46,924
He did some culinary school
or something like that.
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00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,727
[narrator] xaveriana's mom says,
about a year later,
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00:28:50,796 --> 00:28:53,997
The young couple
got life-changing news.
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00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:56,833
[amanda] they both
actually called me
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00:28:56,835 --> 00:28:58,869
And told me
that there was a baby coming.
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00:28:58,937 --> 00:29:03,707
And they were both
very happy and excited.
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00:29:04,810 --> 00:29:06,609
He proposed to her and said
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00:29:06,611 --> 00:29:09,078
He wanted to spend the rest
of his life with her.
484
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,249
She said she was gonna do it,
that she loved him,
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00:29:12,317 --> 00:29:17,587
And she wanted to raise
their baby together as a family
486
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:23,193
She was his ride-or-die
and he was her protector.
487
00:29:25,330 --> 00:29:27,030
[narrator] but a few months
later,
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00:29:27,032 --> 00:29:31,167
Amanda says her daughter
called with concerning news.
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00:29:31,236 --> 00:29:35,539
Xaveriana was probably
about four months' pregnant
490
00:29:36,208 --> 00:29:40,643
And at that point, everything
started getting very bad.
491
00:29:41,313 --> 00:29:43,747
Hunter was getting
very abusive with her.
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00:29:43,815 --> 00:29:46,583
She thought he had been
using drugs.
493
00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:49,987
Hunter was a very caring
and loving person.
494
00:29:49,989 --> 00:29:52,889
It was when he started
using drugs
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00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:55,224
That he became a monster,
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00:29:55,226 --> 00:29:59,763
That you really did not
wanna go toe-to-toe with.
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00:30:00,665 --> 00:30:02,132
I started getting very worried
498
00:30:02,201 --> 00:30:06,569
And telling xaveriana that I
didn't want her to be with him.
499
00:30:06,639 --> 00:30:12,108
I could just feel something,
it was gonna end badly.
500
00:30:12,177 --> 00:30:14,411
I just wasn't sure how.
501
00:30:14,413 --> 00:30:17,047
[narrator] xaveriana's mother
tells police
502
00:30:17,115 --> 00:30:18,949
That she had last heard
from her daughter
503
00:30:19,017 --> 00:30:20,450
Two days earlier.
504
00:30:20,719 --> 00:30:22,753
But she hadn't mentioned
anything
505
00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:25,288
About james sartorelli's murder
506
00:30:25,690 --> 00:30:29,258
Xaveriana called me. It sounded
like she was scared.
507
00:30:29,260 --> 00:30:31,762
She was like, "I will try
to call you back later.
508
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,630
I'm okay, though.
509
00:30:33,698 --> 00:30:38,035
I'm trying to make my way
back home and I love you, mom."
510
00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:41,471
And that was
our last phone call.
511
00:30:42,775 --> 00:30:47,276
I knew that she was in danger,
traveling around with him.
512
00:30:47,278 --> 00:30:49,546
I was just hoping
that my sister was all right.
513
00:30:50,249 --> 00:30:52,783
[wendy] she could be being held
against her will.
514
00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:54,417
She could be
a willing participant.
515
00:30:54,486 --> 00:30:57,220
But one thing they do know
for sure is that she's pregnant.
516
00:30:57,288 --> 00:30:59,322
So that really changes
the dynamic
517
00:30:59,391 --> 00:31:01,892
Of how they need
to approach this.
518
00:31:02,594 --> 00:31:05,261
[narrator] after speaking
to xaveriana's family,
519
00:31:05,330 --> 00:31:08,098
Detectives track down
hunter's father
520
00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:10,901
To see if he knows
the couple's whereabouts.
521
00:31:12,203 --> 00:31:13,703
Hunter's dad tells police
522
00:31:13,772 --> 00:31:15,171
That he did hear from hunter
523
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,206
And that the police
were looking for him
524
00:31:17,276 --> 00:31:19,443
Because they believe
that he killed caveman.
525
00:31:56,314 --> 00:32:00,483
Hunter's dad did provide us
with hunter's cellphone number
526
00:32:00,552 --> 00:32:03,486
And with that information,
we were able to reach out
527
00:32:03,555 --> 00:32:07,557
To cellphone providers
and have hunter's phone pinged
528
00:32:07,626 --> 00:32:11,528
Which'd give us the location
where hunter was at.
529
00:32:12,597 --> 00:32:15,198
The ping showed
that hunter was located
530
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,867
In oxford, mississippi,
531
00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:20,069
Which is a 244-mile drive.
532
00:32:20,339 --> 00:32:22,505
With the cellphone pings being
533
00:32:22,574 --> 00:32:25,042
Outside of the state
of arkansas,
534
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:28,778
We then reached out
to the us marshal service.
535
00:32:29,648 --> 00:32:34,551
We apprehend violent fugitives
is our main mission.
536
00:32:34,553 --> 00:32:36,119
They can't find the guy,
537
00:32:36,888 --> 00:32:39,389
They ask us to come in
and see if we can find him.
538
00:32:40,024 --> 00:32:41,658
The arkansas state police
put out
539
00:32:41,727 --> 00:32:44,361
A be on the lookout,
or a bolo, for this individual.
540
00:32:44,429 --> 00:32:46,363
We were told that
hunter carlstrom
541
00:32:46,431 --> 00:32:47,831
Was wanted for a capital murder
542
00:32:47,899 --> 00:32:49,967
It was said that he fled
543
00:32:50,035 --> 00:32:52,802
With xaveriana cook,
his girlfriend,
544
00:32:52,871 --> 00:32:54,638
In a black car.
545
00:32:56,608 --> 00:32:59,376
We knew, based on,
his criminal conduct,
546
00:32:59,444 --> 00:33:01,712
That he was gonna be
a dangerous individual.
547
00:33:02,247 --> 00:33:04,381
He had 67 pages of arrests
548
00:33:04,449 --> 00:33:07,150
For assault, resisting arrest,
549
00:33:07,218 --> 00:33:10,387
Weapons charges,
firearms charges, burglary.
550
00:33:10,455 --> 00:33:13,290
We had a couple of vehicles
roving the area,
551
00:33:13,358 --> 00:33:16,293
Canvassing the area,
looking for the vehicle.
552
00:33:17,562 --> 00:33:19,462
[narrator] four days
into the search,
553
00:33:19,464 --> 00:33:23,133
Marshals in oxford, mississippi
spot the vehicle.
554
00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:26,103
[bob] he was able
to positively identify
555
00:33:26,105 --> 00:33:28,138
Carlstrom
in the passenger's seat
556
00:33:28,206 --> 00:33:30,307
And cook as being the driver.
557
00:33:31,543 --> 00:33:33,743
We have a couple
of unmarked units
558
00:33:33,812 --> 00:33:35,512
That are following him.
559
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:37,948
We were hoping that he would
pull into a convenience store
560
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:41,184
Or a residence, but it did not.
561
00:33:41,252 --> 00:33:43,553
It continued north
toward oxford.
562
00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:47,023
We did not want carlstrom
and cook
563
00:33:47,091 --> 00:33:49,025
To get inside the city limits.
564
00:33:49,093 --> 00:33:52,328
You got students
walking around everywhere.
565
00:33:52,397 --> 00:33:54,764
You got a busy town square.
566
00:33:55,167 --> 00:33:58,235
We were told that carlstrom
was not going back
567
00:33:58,237 --> 00:34:00,203
To prison and would shoot it out
568
00:34:00,272 --> 00:34:01,904
With the police if confronted.
569
00:34:01,974 --> 00:34:03,340
We hear that all the time,
570
00:34:03,408 --> 00:34:05,375
But based on
his criminal history
571
00:34:05,444 --> 00:34:07,044
And interviews
that had taken place,
572
00:34:07,112 --> 00:34:09,713
We believed him
to be a real threat.
573
00:34:11,249 --> 00:34:13,550
We decided that we needed
to probably make plans
574
00:34:13,618 --> 00:34:14,851
For a traffic stop.
575
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,820
We wanted to conduct it
576
00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:18,955
Where there wasn't a whole lot
of members of the public
577
00:34:19,024 --> 00:34:20,457
That would be at risk.
578
00:34:21,993 --> 00:34:25,194
Shane theobald phoned ahead
to the oxford police department
579
00:34:25,264 --> 00:34:27,130
And asked them to shut down
580
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:28,932
Any southbound traffic
581
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,235
At highway 7
in grand oaks boulevard.
582
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:35,872
[narrator] but just before
xaveriana
583
00:34:35,874 --> 00:34:37,974
And hunter reach the roadblock,
584
00:34:38,043 --> 00:34:40,977
Xaveriana makes a rash decision
585
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,447
I'm assuming she looked up ahead
and saw
586
00:34:44,449 --> 00:34:46,416
Marked police cars
with lights on
587
00:34:46,485 --> 00:34:48,085
And no traffic coming
down the road.
588
00:34:48,153 --> 00:34:50,854
And she turned left
off of highway 7.
589
00:34:51,523 --> 00:34:54,624
Then we knew
that our time was running out
590
00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:57,527
So we had the sheriff's deputy
in front of us
591
00:34:57,596 --> 00:35:02,732
Activate his emergency lights
to have xaveriana pull over.
592
00:35:05,204 --> 00:35:07,337
[music]
593
00:35:10,908 --> 00:35:12,342
[music]
594
00:35:14,379 --> 00:35:16,112
[narrator] in oxford,
mississippi,
595
00:35:16,181 --> 00:35:18,748
A multi-agent task force
has just caught up
596
00:35:18,817 --> 00:35:21,751
To suspected murderer
hunter carlstrom
597
00:35:21,753 --> 00:35:25,689
And his pregnant fiancé,
xaveriana cook.
598
00:35:27,258 --> 00:35:29,259
The car pulled over.
599
00:35:34,999 --> 00:35:36,966
As soon as it came to a stop,
600
00:35:37,035 --> 00:35:38,801
Xaveriana exited the vehicle
601
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:40,937
And came back
to where the deputies were.
602
00:35:41,673 --> 00:35:44,074
[narrator] while hunter remains
in the passenger's seat,
603
00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:46,276
Members of the fugitive
task force
604
00:35:46,344 --> 00:35:48,178
Prepare for a standoff.
605
00:35:48,747 --> 00:35:51,948
You're positioning cars
where they can provide cover
606
00:35:52,016 --> 00:35:53,216
And concealment for you
607
00:35:53,285 --> 00:35:55,752
In case there is gunfire.
608
00:35:56,488 --> 00:35:59,889
I was behind of our
investigator's vehicles
609
00:35:59,957 --> 00:36:01,491
Engine blocks.
610
00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:04,460
Guns were drawn, ready to be
used if they needed to be used.
611
00:36:05,363 --> 00:36:08,698
Our arrest team
approached on the right rear
612
00:36:08,767 --> 00:36:10,500
Where they could see
hunter carlstrom
613
00:36:10,568 --> 00:36:11,968
In the passenger's seat.
614
00:36:12,036 --> 00:36:15,237
He opened the door but was
refusing officers' commands
615
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,973
To show us his hands.
616
00:36:17,375 --> 00:36:20,110
[bob] he was being
verbally non-compliant,
617
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:21,878
And at a certain point,
618
00:36:21,946 --> 00:36:26,616
We felt like that we
needed to elevate our commands
619
00:36:26,685 --> 00:36:29,251
From just giving him
verbal commands
620
00:36:29,253 --> 00:36:30,787
To the use of a taser.
621
00:36:32,457 --> 00:36:34,190
I said, "look, the door is open
622
00:36:34,259 --> 00:36:36,926
I've got a clear shot
where I could tase him
623
00:36:36,995 --> 00:36:38,261
In the back."
624
00:36:39,264 --> 00:36:43,065
Almost instantly,
carlstrom turned
625
00:36:43,067 --> 00:36:45,501
And I saw him with a handgun.
626
00:36:46,104 --> 00:36:48,271
I could hear the taser deploy
627
00:36:48,339 --> 00:36:49,872
And immediately after that,
628
00:36:49,941 --> 00:36:51,741
I heard gunfire.
629
00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:55,778
The first shot heard
was from hunter carlstrom.
630
00:36:55,847 --> 00:36:59,415
The second volley of gunfire,
which was almost immediate,
631
00:36:59,484 --> 00:37:01,918
Was our agents returning fire
632
00:37:01,986 --> 00:37:03,687
And striking carlstrom.
633
00:37:05,523 --> 00:37:08,858
Hunter carlstrom was killed
by return gunfire.
634
00:37:11,363 --> 00:37:13,496
He caused his own demise.
635
00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:17,300
He stayed very true to his word.
636
00:37:19,471 --> 00:37:21,504
[bob] at that point,
I started checking myself
637
00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:25,708
And I felt a little tingle
coming from my left side.
638
00:37:25,777 --> 00:37:29,546
So I reached under my vest,
saw some blood.
639
00:37:30,949 --> 00:37:33,049
[shane] I heard
deputy dickerson say,
640
00:37:33,117 --> 00:37:34,584
"I'm hit, I'm hit,"
641
00:37:34,653 --> 00:37:37,153
And I can see him backpedaling
away from the vehicle.
642
00:37:37,489 --> 00:37:40,323
And I immediately went to
deputy dickerson's aid.
643
00:37:40,391 --> 00:37:42,859
I could see the blood
begin to pool on his shirt
644
00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:45,895
And realized that we had to
get him to the hospital.
645
00:37:45,964 --> 00:37:48,965
I just start fading.
646
00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:51,901
I had lost so much blood,
I was just getting really weak.
647
00:37:51,970 --> 00:37:54,871
Everything after that
is pretty foggy.
648
00:37:55,407 --> 00:37:58,074
[narrator] while deputy
us marshal bob dickerson
649
00:37:58,142 --> 00:38:00,109
Receives medical attention,
650
00:38:00,178 --> 00:38:02,145
Xaveriana cook is arrested
651
00:38:02,213 --> 00:38:04,347
And brought down
to the local station
652
00:38:04,416 --> 00:38:05,982
For an interview.
653
00:38:06,318 --> 00:38:09,419
Once in custody,
xaveriana did confess
654
00:38:09,487 --> 00:38:12,488
That she knew that hunter
had committed this crime,
655
00:38:12,557 --> 00:38:14,423
That he killed caveman
656
00:38:14,493 --> 00:38:16,893
And he took the guns,
he took the money.
657
00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:21,231
And she was quite forthcoming
with information
658
00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:23,165
Once everything
was said and done.
659
00:38:23,768 --> 00:38:26,903
[narrator] xaveriana admits
that on the night of may 5th,
660
00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:28,638
She gave hunter her car,
661
00:38:28,706 --> 00:38:31,441
Knowing full well
what he planned to do.
662
00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:34,677
She told investigators
that it was his intention
663
00:38:35,113 --> 00:38:36,446
To kill caveman.
664
00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:38,581
[narrator] according
to xaveriana,
665
00:38:38,583 --> 00:38:41,451
James' propensity
to flaunt his valuables
666
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:43,353
Caught hunter's eye.
667
00:38:44,556 --> 00:38:48,057
Hunter had seen an opportunity
to get some money
668
00:38:48,126 --> 00:38:49,525
And guns.
669
00:38:49,928 --> 00:38:52,395
[wendy] xaveriana said
everything that hunter took
670
00:38:52,397 --> 00:38:53,996
From caveman
671
00:38:53,998 --> 00:38:57,801
Was to aid them in starting
a new life.
672
00:39:00,138 --> 00:39:02,471
Maybe he felt,
by him doing that,
673
00:39:02,541 --> 00:39:05,375
He was protecting her
674
00:39:05,443 --> 00:39:07,143
From being broke in the future
675
00:39:07,211 --> 00:39:08,811
Or the baby coming.
676
00:39:09,281 --> 00:39:11,547
[wendy] I don't think that
the amount that was taken
677
00:39:11,616 --> 00:39:14,050
In this situation was realistic
678
00:39:14,118 --> 00:39:15,818
To consider starting a new life,
679
00:39:15,887 --> 00:39:19,155
But everybody has
their own definitions
680
00:39:19,223 --> 00:39:20,523
Of starting a new life.
681
00:39:23,027 --> 00:39:25,227
Xaveriana said that,
when he came back,
682
00:39:25,229 --> 00:39:26,762
He told her to pack her clothes
683
00:39:26,831 --> 00:39:28,064
And that they were leaving.
684
00:39:29,233 --> 00:39:31,634
[narrator] xaveriana felt
as though she had no choice
685
00:39:31,636 --> 00:39:33,503
But to stand by her man.
686
00:39:33,838 --> 00:39:35,638
[wendy] she was thinking
about a baby.
687
00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:39,441
She was thinking about
someone that she clearly loved,
688
00:39:39,443 --> 00:39:42,645
And she was really thinking
about being
689
00:39:42,714 --> 00:39:44,213
In that desperate situation.
690
00:39:44,282 --> 00:39:47,383
And you have to make a decision
to stand by the person
691
00:39:47,452 --> 00:39:49,719
That you love,
no matter what they've done,
692
00:39:49,787 --> 00:39:52,522
And hope that,
at the end of the day,
693
00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:54,357
You all come home together.
694
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:57,993
It was when hunter started
using them drugs,
695
00:39:58,063 --> 00:40:01,597
He became someone
that you did not know
696
00:40:01,666 --> 00:40:05,201
And someone that you did not
even wanna mess with
697
00:40:05,269 --> 00:40:06,936
Because he would hurt you.
698
00:40:07,806 --> 00:40:10,206
She was afraid
hunter was gonna hurt her
699
00:40:10,274 --> 00:40:12,876
And didn't know
what she should do.
700
00:40:13,811 --> 00:40:17,213
He totally was controlling
her mind.
701
00:40:17,549 --> 00:40:20,750
She did whatever he told her
to do.
702
00:40:21,819 --> 00:40:24,086
[narrator] after hearing
xaveriana's version of events,
703
00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:27,423
Authorities believe
hunter is the mastermind.
704
00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:31,227
But they aren't ready
to exonerate xaveriana.
705
00:40:31,629 --> 00:40:35,497
[wendy] xaveriana was clearly
not the ring leader
706
00:40:35,499 --> 00:40:37,700
In any of these instances.
707
00:40:37,702 --> 00:40:40,970
I don't believe that that
is disputed on any level.
708
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:45,507
It wasn't her idea
to do any of these things.
709
00:40:45,509 --> 00:40:46,976
That all fell on hunter,
710
00:40:47,045 --> 00:40:51,948
But xaveriana had knowledge
that it was going to happen.
711
00:40:53,117 --> 00:40:54,917
So after everything
was said and done,
712
00:40:54,986 --> 00:40:57,253
She didn't come out of this
unscathed at all.
713
00:40:57,321 --> 00:41:01,157
She was looking at a long list
of federal and state charges.
714
00:41:03,828 --> 00:41:05,828
[narrator] following
her preliminary hearing,
715
00:41:05,897 --> 00:41:08,698
Xaveriana is released on bail.
716
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:11,467
The judge allowed her
to come home.
717
00:41:11,536 --> 00:41:13,202
He put her on house arrest.
718
00:41:13,605 --> 00:41:16,739
And she was able to come home,
have the baby.
719
00:41:16,808 --> 00:41:20,175
And she got to spend
a little time with the baby.
720
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:23,779
[narrator] on February 7th,
2022,
721
00:41:23,848 --> 00:41:25,648
The young mother pleads guilty
722
00:41:25,716 --> 00:41:27,984
To being an accessory
after the fact,
723
00:41:28,052 --> 00:41:31,287
And aiding and abetting
the possession of firearms
724
00:41:31,355 --> 00:41:33,456
By a prohibited person.
725
00:41:33,524 --> 00:41:36,092
She was sentenced
to 84 months in prison.
726
00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:40,229
[amanda] she was very surprised
by the sentence that she got.
727
00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:43,365
It shocked both of us.
728
00:41:44,368 --> 00:41:46,702
[jermey] a lot of people say
she deserved more
729
00:41:46,771 --> 00:41:49,639
In my honest opinion,
I think it was fair.
730
00:41:49,707 --> 00:41:53,776
She got to watch the person
that she loved be killed.
731
00:41:53,844 --> 00:41:55,845
So let her live with that.
732
00:41:56,781 --> 00:41:58,448
She's got the hell
she has to live with
733
00:41:58,516 --> 00:42:00,216
Over and over and over
in her mind.
734
00:42:01,619 --> 00:42:04,187
[narrator] for special agent
bob dickerson,
735
00:42:04,255 --> 00:42:05,521
His brush with death
736
00:42:05,590 --> 00:42:08,024
Was followed by a long recover.
737
00:42:10,094 --> 00:42:14,330
It was nine surgeries,
total, over a year-ish,
738
00:42:14,398 --> 00:42:15,931
10 months.
739
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,268
I had to almost learn
how to walk again.
740
00:42:19,403 --> 00:42:23,139
I think hunter carlstrom
is the epitome of evil.
741
00:42:23,207 --> 00:42:25,007
I'm willing to forgive
a lot of people.
742
00:42:25,076 --> 00:42:27,477
I don't know
that I could forgive him.
743
00:42:27,945 --> 00:42:29,412
Hunter didn't really get
any punishment
744
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,947
For doing what he did to cave.
745
00:42:32,016 --> 00:42:33,349
I know he's not here,
746
00:42:33,417 --> 00:42:36,585
But it's just too easy
for hunter.
747
00:42:36,655 --> 00:42:38,454
It's not for everyone else,
for his family.
748
00:42:38,522 --> 00:42:41,523
But for hunter, he should've
been punished for that.
749
00:42:42,326 --> 00:42:45,361
[jermey] hunter's a thug.
He murdered my friend
750
00:42:45,429 --> 00:42:46,829
And left him face-down.
751
00:42:46,898 --> 00:42:49,165
When it all boils down to it,
752
00:42:50,434 --> 00:42:51,634
It was about money.
753
00:42:51,703 --> 00:42:54,203
Greed is the root of all evil.
754
00:42:56,140 --> 00:42:59,709
It was always good to go
and visit caveman,
755
00:42:59,777 --> 00:43:02,311
Then talk to him for hours
and hours and hours.
756
00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:03,513
I miss those greatly.
757
00:43:03,581 --> 00:43:06,482
He was a great man to talk to.
758
00:43:06,851 --> 00:43:09,385
To this day, it still
feels unbelievable
759
00:43:09,453 --> 00:43:13,389
That something like that
happened
760
00:43:13,457 --> 00:43:16,059
To one of you best friends.
761
00:43:16,928 --> 00:43:18,928
It's still hard to grasp.
762
00:43:19,797 --> 00:43:21,830
[jermey] when somebody
thinks about caveman,
763
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:25,467
I want somebody to grin
because I do every day.
764
00:43:25,469 --> 00:43:30,672
He was such a loving, generous,
big-hearted person.
765
00:43:30,674 --> 00:43:36,679
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