1 00:00:05,213 --> 00:00:07,757 [Shinji]   speaking Japanese 2 00:00:08,633 --> 00:00:10,343 I don't know                     if "violent" cuts it. 3 00:00:10,510 --> 00:00:12,679 In Japan, this disturbing 4 00:00:12,721 --> 00:00:15,181 and potentially dangerous             manga is protected by law 5 00:00:15,223 --> 00:00:16,683 as freedom of expression. 6 00:00:16,725 --> 00:00:19,019 Is there a link                    between this material 7 00:00:19,060 --> 00:00:21,312 and instances of real abuse? 8 00:00:21,354 --> 00:00:23,356 speaking Japanese 9 00:00:23,398 --> 00:00:24,816 [Hanako]   Do you think                   this type of media 10 00:00:24,858 --> 00:00:26,234 should be banned in Japan? 11 00:00:26,276 --> 00:00:28,194 speaking Japanese 12 00:00:28,236 --> 00:00:31,364 dramatic electronic music 13 00:00:31,406 --> 00:00:33,825 [Suroosh]   Africa has become             a strategic focal point 14 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:35,535 for the world's major powers. 15 00:00:35,577 --> 00:00:37,328 Exercises like this                       are becoming 16 00:00:37,370 --> 00:00:39,205 a bigger priority for America. 17 00:00:39,247 --> 00:00:40,915 In recent years, 18 00:00:40,957 --> 00:00:43,084 ten governments                    have been overthrown. 19 00:00:43,126 --> 00:00:45,253 Is it a dangerous game               to be training officers 20 00:00:45,295 --> 00:00:46,921 from unstable nations? 21 00:00:46,963 --> 00:00:49,883 No, I don't--I think              it's actually the opposite. 22 00:00:49,924 --> 00:00:52,177 Did the U.S. military              play a role in the coup? 23 00:00:54,929 --> 00:00:58,140 driving electronic music 24 00:01:13,281 --> 00:01:16,241 warbling synth music 25 00:01:23,792 --> 00:01:26,086 [traffic director]                     speaking Japanese 26 00:01:27,378 --> 00:01:29,589 [Hanako]                          speaking Japanese 27 00:01:33,426 --> 00:01:35,595 We're heading                  to Anime Japan right now, 28 00:01:35,637 --> 00:01:38,556 and it's the largest anime            convention in the world. 29 00:01:38,597 --> 00:01:40,475 Anime and manga                      are one of Japan's 30 00:01:40,517 --> 00:01:43,561 most popular and lucrative                cultural exports. 31 00:01:43,603 --> 00:01:47,107 In 2020, anime alone              raked in almost $18 billion 32 00:01:47,148 --> 00:01:48,942 in domestic                     and international sales, 33 00:01:48,983 --> 00:01:51,236 with its appeal                    to people of all ages. 34 00:01:52,821 --> 00:01:55,031 speaking Japanese 35 00:01:57,325 --> 00:01:59,119 [Hanako]   Whether it's               stories about martial arts 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,829 or magical girls saving                      the world, 37 00:02:00,870 --> 00:02:04,624 the focus is often on cute             and innocent characters. 38 00:02:04,666 --> 00:02:07,710 But sometimes the line             between cute and concerning 39 00:02:07,751 --> 00:02:09,337 can get pretty blurry. 40 00:02:12,132 --> 00:02:14,759 There are a few really, really             young-looking girls 41 00:02:14,801 --> 00:02:18,638 in basically little                    to no clothing. 42 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,640 They are very clearly children, 43 00:02:20,682 --> 00:02:22,725 and people are just                    walking around 44 00:02:22,767 --> 00:02:24,394 as though nothing is wrong, 45 00:02:24,435 --> 00:02:26,061 nothing is different. 46 00:02:26,104 --> 00:02:27,647 These images are tame compared 47 00:02:27,689 --> 00:02:28,982 to what's out there. 48 00:02:29,023 --> 00:02:30,400 Online and in bookshops, 49 00:02:30,441 --> 00:02:31,776 there's an entire subgenre 50 00:02:31,818 --> 00:02:34,654 of animated child pornography. 51 00:02:34,696 --> 00:02:37,365 The comics are so graphic                 that in the U.S., 52 00:02:37,407 --> 00:02:41,327 you could get up to 15 years         in jail just for owning one... 53 00:02:41,369 --> 00:02:43,163 but not here. 54 00:02:43,204 --> 00:02:44,956 When child pornography was                  finally banned 55 00:02:44,998 --> 00:02:46,833 in Japan in 2014, 56 00:02:46,875 --> 00:02:49,878 publishers lobbied to keep            animated child porn legal, 57 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,130 arguing that                   artists' freedom of speech 58 00:02:52,172 --> 00:02:54,340 is protected                      by the constitution. 59 00:02:54,382 --> 00:02:56,049 They even pressured                      the government 60 00:02:56,092 --> 00:02:58,678 not to study the effects           of this material on consumers, 61 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,889 because they said                      no real children 62 00:03:00,930 --> 00:03:03,141 were being harmed to make it. 63 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:04,809 They got what they wanted. 64 00:03:04,851 --> 00:03:08,479 Today, all manga, no matter              how sexually explicit, 65 00:03:08,521 --> 00:03:09,898 is protected by law. 66 00:03:13,902 --> 00:03:17,363 [Shinji]   speaking Japanese 67 00:03:21,034 --> 00:03:22,869 [Hanako]   Shinji                    is a manga super fan, 68 00:03:22,911 --> 00:03:24,871 and also one of the artists                 creating comics 69 00:03:24,912 --> 00:03:26,873 that show child pornography. 70 00:03:26,915 --> 00:03:29,334 He's 49 years old,                   but much of his work 71 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:32,378 focuses on elementary                    school students. 72 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:35,882 He says it's harmless because         it doesn't involve real kids. 73 00:03:36,716 --> 00:03:38,384 speaking Japanese 74 00:03:38,426 --> 00:03:41,888 [Shinji]   speaking Japanese 75 00:03:54,442 --> 00:03:58,696 [Hanako] So this story is          about a young high schooler, 76 00:03:58,738 --> 00:04:00,615 and she is getting gang raped 77 00:04:00,657 --> 00:04:03,701 by a bunch of high school boys. 78 00:04:03,743 --> 00:04:06,246 So what they're doing is              ejaculating in condoms, 79 00:04:06,287 --> 00:04:08,665 and then they're putting           the condoms inside the girl. 80 00:04:08,706 --> 00:04:10,917 And she is apparently 81 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:13,836 sexually enjoying this process                  as well. 82 00:04:13,878 --> 00:04:17,674 This is quite... 83 00:04:17,715 --> 00:04:20,843 I don't know if "violent"             cuts it, to be honest. 84 00:04:20,885 --> 00:04:23,930 [Shinji]   speaking Japanese 85 00:04:36,067 --> 00:04:37,944 [Hanako]                     But it's not just about art. 86 00:04:37,986 --> 00:04:41,239 Shinji admits                  he's attracted to children. 87 00:04:41,281 --> 00:04:43,283 He agreed to talk to us                 because he believes 88 00:04:43,324 --> 00:04:46,035 his work prevents pedophiles               from abusing kids 89 00:04:46,077 --> 00:04:48,288 by allowing them to live out          their dark fantasies alone. 90 00:04:50,039 --> 00:04:52,500 [Shinji]   speaking Japanese 91 00:05:31,706 --> 00:05:34,167 gentle music 92 00:05:34,208 --> 00:05:35,626 [Hanako]   There are                   no studies that prove 93 00:05:35,668 --> 00:05:39,255 animated child porn leads                 to actual assault. 94 00:05:39,297 --> 00:05:41,007 What we do know                       from police data 95 00:05:41,049 --> 00:05:44,802 is that Japan is facing                a child abuse crisis. 96 00:05:44,844 --> 00:05:46,512 More and more people                   are being arrested 97 00:05:46,554 --> 00:05:48,348 for sexually abusing minors, 98 00:05:48,389 --> 00:05:49,849 and more children are becoming 99 00:05:49,891 --> 00:05:52,769 victims of pornography                   on social media. 100 00:05:52,810 --> 00:05:54,937 But most lawmakers don't think 101 00:05:54,979 --> 00:05:58,191 that animated child               pornography is the problem. 102 00:05:58,232 --> 00:06:00,234 Even as the country prepares                  to establish 103 00:06:00,276 --> 00:06:02,778 its first-ever                Children's Ministry next year, 104 00:06:02,820 --> 00:06:04,155 a government office dedicated 105 00:06:04,197 --> 00:06:06,449 to protecting                     the rights of minors, 106 00:06:06,491 --> 00:06:08,034 there are no plans                       to reexamine 107 00:06:08,076 --> 00:06:09,535 this disturbing manga. 108 00:06:09,577 --> 00:06:12,914 [Minoru]   speaking Japanese 109 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:21,254 [Hanako]   Minoru Ogino                   is a manga artist 110 00:06:21,297 --> 00:06:23,674 and an elected Tokyo official. 111 00:06:23,716 --> 00:06:27,011 He strongly opposes                any ban on this material. 112 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:13,891 [Hanako]   We showed Ogino             one of Shinji's comic books. 113 00:08:03,483 --> 00:08:05,359 [Hanako]   Japan isn't               the only democratic country 114 00:08:05,401 --> 00:08:07,278 where children are sexualized, 115 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,447 but it is among the slowest               to change its laws. 116 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:13,242 The age of consent here                     is only 13, 117 00:08:13,283 --> 00:08:15,703 the lowest among                     developed nations. 118 00:08:15,745 --> 00:08:18,122 Online, consumers can                       and do buy 119 00:08:18,164 --> 00:08:19,874 childlike sex dolls, 120 00:08:19,916 --> 00:08:21,626 something                     that's also legal in most 121 00:08:21,667 --> 00:08:22,668 of the United States. 122 00:08:24,086 --> 00:08:25,463 Other businesses here offer 123 00:08:25,505 --> 00:08:27,131 "high school girl                      walking dates," 124 00:08:27,173 --> 00:08:30,468 where older men                pay to spend time with minors. 125 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:32,803 This fetishization                  of youth can be traced 126 00:08:32,845 --> 00:08:34,138 back through history. 127 00:08:34,180 --> 00:08:36,182 Art from the 1600s to 1800s 128 00:08:36,224 --> 00:08:38,226 show adolescent boys                     called   wakashu 129 00:08:38,267 --> 00:08:41,479 dressing as women               and having sex with older men, 130 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:43,523 while girls as young as 12                 were considered 131 00:08:43,564 --> 00:08:45,274 sexually mature enough                  to be courtesans. 132 00:08:48,819 --> 00:08:51,781 Today, comics showing              the violent objectification 133 00:08:51,822 --> 00:08:54,450 of children can be picked up              at adult bookshops, 134 00:08:54,492 --> 00:08:56,702 often for less than 10 bucks. 135 00:08:56,744 --> 00:08:58,329 We asked a bunch                      of these stores 136 00:08:58,371 --> 00:09:00,957 whether we can film inside,          but none of them said yes, 137 00:09:00,998 --> 00:09:03,626 so we actually have to go           inside with a hidden camera 138 00:09:03,668 --> 00:09:07,046 and see just kind of how            on display these books are. 139 00:09:08,130 --> 00:09:10,299 The stores don't want                 to risk bad publicity, 140 00:09:10,341 --> 00:09:11,884 and we can see why. 141 00:09:11,926 --> 00:09:13,594 We visited a few of them, 142 00:09:13,635 --> 00:09:15,137 but we can't show you                 what's on the shelves 143 00:09:15,179 --> 00:09:16,722 because it's too                     sexually graphic. 144 00:09:18,474 --> 00:09:22,895 This whole aisle here                is just sexual abuse, 145 00:09:22,937 --> 00:09:25,815 child pornography. 146 00:09:25,856 --> 00:09:27,650 The genres                     that sexualize children 147 00:09:27,692 --> 00:09:29,318 and sometimes depicts abuse                    are called 148 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,404 "Shotacon" and "Lolicon," 149 00:09:31,445 --> 00:09:34,240 after the classic                   Western novel   Lolita. 150 00:09:34,282 --> 00:09:36,158 Some of these stories                   get pretty brutal, 151 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,787 involving violence,                 incest, and humiliation. 152 00:09:39,829 --> 00:09:42,623 You see, this girl                   is a sixth grader, 153 00:09:42,665 --> 00:09:44,542 and just a lot                     of repeated scenes 154 00:09:44,584 --> 00:09:46,961 of her getting raped. 155 00:09:47,003 --> 00:09:49,755 uneasy music 156 00:09:56,596 --> 00:09:59,265 [Kazuna]   speaking Japanese 157 00:10:04,478 --> 00:10:06,606 [Hanako]   Kazuna Kanajiri                 runs an organization 158 00:10:06,647 --> 00:10:08,774 that helps victims                   of sexual violence, 159 00:10:08,816 --> 00:10:10,776 including kids who have                been abused or forced 160 00:10:10,818 --> 00:10:13,529 into child pornography. 161 00:10:13,571 --> 00:10:15,990 We showed her one of             the comics depicting children. 162 00:10:17,116 --> 00:10:19,952 [Kazuna]   speaking Japanese 163 00:10:31,172 --> 00:10:33,966 Is there a link                   between this material 164 00:10:34,008 --> 00:10:37,303 and instances of real abuse               against children? 165 00:11:26,977 --> 00:11:29,313 [Hanako]   Takashi Kato              was once a massive consumer 166 00:11:29,355 --> 00:11:31,565 of this pornographic manga. 167 00:11:31,607 --> 00:11:34,568 He was also                    a serial child sex abuser. 168 00:11:34,610 --> 00:11:36,445 [Takashi]   speaking Japanese 169 00:11:45,621 --> 00:11:47,373 [Hanako]                      Kato agreed to speak to us 170 00:11:47,415 --> 00:11:48,874 because he says                   he wants to stop others 171 00:11:48,916 --> 00:11:51,043 from preying on children. 172 00:11:51,085 --> 00:11:53,879 He says he's assaulted                  at least 11 kids, 173 00:11:53,921 --> 00:11:56,048 including abusing girls                      in public, 174 00:11:56,090 --> 00:11:58,050 teaching boys to masturbate, 175 00:11:58,092 --> 00:12:00,803 and paying children                     for sex abroad. 176 00:12:00,845 --> 00:12:03,639 When and how did you realize                 that you had 177 00:12:03,681 --> 00:12:05,975 a sexual desire for children? 178 00:12:06,016 --> 00:12:07,810 [Takashi]   speaking Japanese 179 00:12:31,792 --> 00:12:34,587 How did reading this manga            change your understanding 180 00:12:34,628 --> 00:12:35,796 of sex and children? 181 00:13:05,993 --> 00:13:09,121 Do you think this type of media       should be banned in Japan? 182 00:13:24,303 --> 00:13:26,806 [Hanako]   Kato eventually                  turned himself in. 183 00:13:26,847 --> 00:13:29,391 But instead of prison, he got            four years of probation 184 00:13:29,433 --> 00:13:31,143 and community service 185 00:13:31,185 --> 00:13:32,770 because he had                      no criminal record 186 00:13:32,812 --> 00:13:34,814 and his victims                      never complained. 187 00:13:35,439 --> 00:13:37,983 He doesn't know                what happened to the children. 188 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,320 [Takashi]   speaking Japanese 189 00:13:59,421 --> 00:14:01,131 [Hanako]   Despite                 the new Children's Ministry 190 00:14:01,173 --> 00:14:03,342 opening next year,                     there's no plan 191 00:14:03,384 --> 00:14:05,553 to ban this abusive manga. 192 00:14:05,594 --> 00:14:08,389 Freedom of expression is           enshrined in the constitution. 193 00:14:08,430 --> 00:14:10,599 But child's rights advocates              warn that this isn't 194 00:14:10,641 --> 00:14:13,561 just a problem for Japan. 195 00:14:13,602 --> 00:14:16,522 Material that's legal here can       and will be viewed everywhere. 196 00:14:18,065 --> 00:14:20,234 [Kazuna]   speaking Japanese 197 00:14:58,147 --> 00:15:00,983 driving electronic music 198 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:09,366 [assorted gunfire] 199 00:15:09,408 --> 00:15:12,369 tense music 200 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:27,760 We're in Fort Benning, Georgia, 201 00:15:27,801 --> 00:15:29,845 at the massive Army base                   that's here, 202 00:15:29,887 --> 00:15:33,390 and we're at the African                Land Forces Summit. 203 00:15:33,432 --> 00:15:36,226 There are generals                  and military officials 204 00:15:36,268 --> 00:15:38,354 from over 40 African nations                     here, 205 00:15:38,395 --> 00:15:39,688 and it's something that                       the Army 206 00:15:39,730 --> 00:15:41,106 organizes every year. 207 00:15:41,148 --> 00:15:43,525 And it's their way                 of kind of strengthening 208 00:15:43,567 --> 00:15:45,694 their relationships              with their friends and allies 209 00:15:45,736 --> 00:15:47,363 and partners in Africa. 210 00:15:47,404 --> 00:15:49,365 This is how America                       can compete 211 00:15:49,406 --> 00:15:51,075 in the great power competition 212 00:15:51,116 --> 00:15:53,118 and not lose out to the likes            of Russia and China. 213 00:15:54,995 --> 00:15:56,789 With the                   youngest population on Earth, 214 00:15:56,830 --> 00:15:58,916 vast tracts of                      undeveloped space, 215 00:15:58,958 --> 00:16:01,126 and trillions                     in untapped resources, 216 00:16:01,168 --> 00:16:04,505 Africa is the final frontier             in the global economy. 217 00:16:04,546 --> 00:16:06,256 All that unrealized potential 218 00:16:06,298 --> 00:16:08,509 has made the continent                a new strategic focus 219 00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:10,010 for the world's major powers, 220 00:16:10,052 --> 00:16:12,930 nowhere more so                      than West Africa, 221 00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:15,516 where the U.S., China,              and Russia, among others, 222 00:16:15,557 --> 00:16:17,768 are competing                    for political influence 223 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:20,813 and natural resources like            timber, oil, and minerals, 224 00:16:20,854 --> 00:16:22,272 including bauxite, 225 00:16:22,314 --> 00:16:24,775 a raw material                     for making aluminum. 226 00:16:24,817 --> 00:16:26,527 But the scramble                      for West Africa 227 00:16:26,568 --> 00:16:28,529 is getting more complex                     by the day. 228 00:16:28,570 --> 00:16:30,239 [explosion] 229 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,450 Violence is spiking,               extremism is on the rise, 230 00:16:33,492 --> 00:16:36,495 and political instability            is spiraling out of control. 231 00:16:36,537 --> 00:16:38,831 In recent years,                   military-backed coups 232 00:16:38,872 --> 00:16:42,334 have overthrown                ten West African governments. 233 00:16:42,376 --> 00:16:44,336 Major General                      Andrew Rohling runs 234 00:16:44,377 --> 00:16:46,963 American military partnerships                 in Africa. 235 00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:49,133 The two years he's held                 that post have been 236 00:16:49,174 --> 00:16:51,427 the most chaotic                     in recent history. 237 00:16:51,468 --> 00:16:53,345 Should the U.S.                    be training leaders 238 00:16:53,386 --> 00:16:55,514 from unstable African nations? 239 00:16:55,556 --> 00:16:56,515 Yes, I think we should. 240 00:16:56,557 --> 00:16:58,183 Because if they're unstable, 241 00:16:58,225 --> 00:17:00,602 they're gonna fall off              to one side or the other. 242 00:17:00,644 --> 00:17:02,271 I would rather have them fall                onto the side 243 00:17:02,312 --> 00:17:04,148 of the United States              and our allies and partners 244 00:17:04,189 --> 00:17:05,774 than to just ignore them. 245 00:17:05,816 --> 00:17:07,651 That gives them               an easy path into a direction 246 00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:09,194 we wish them not to go. 247 00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:11,822 [Suroosh]                 The U.S., Russia, and China 248 00:17:11,864 --> 00:17:13,490 are working                     every angle to maintain 249 00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:15,409 their access and influence. 250 00:17:15,451 --> 00:17:17,578 For America,                      those angles include 251 00:17:17,619 --> 00:17:20,706 displays of military might            and Southern hospitality. 252 00:17:20,748 --> 00:17:22,416 The pastries are good, right? 253 00:17:22,458 --> 00:17:23,542 They're very fresh. 254 00:17:23,584 --> 00:17:25,210 -Yes.                               -Yeah. 255 00:17:25,252 --> 00:17:27,379 [Suroosh]                      ...and an American take 256 00:17:27,421 --> 00:17:29,048 on a true African staple. 257 00:17:54,031 --> 00:17:56,408 I think my wife                     might like this. 258 00:17:56,450 --> 00:17:59,244 Tyler Perry,   Good Deeds. 259 00:17:59,787 --> 00:18:01,663 [Suroosh]   For all                  the goodwill on safari, 260 00:18:01,705 --> 00:18:03,665 the Fort Benning Summit                   was overshadowed 261 00:18:03,707 --> 00:18:04,917 by a shocking statistic. 262 00:18:08,378 --> 00:18:10,881 Of the ten recent coups                   in West Africa, 263 00:18:10,923 --> 00:18:13,258 eight were carried out            by soldiers trained by America 264 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:15,094 at events like this. 265 00:18:15,677 --> 00:18:18,722 The apparent link between              U.S. training and coups 266 00:18:18,764 --> 00:18:21,809 poses an important question:           does American involvement 267 00:18:21,850 --> 00:18:25,229 in Africa promote peace            and prosperity, as it claims, 268 00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:27,439 or might it do more harm                     than good? 269 00:18:30,484 --> 00:18:34,071 quiet synth music 270 00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:36,573 We're in a small West African           country called Guinea, 271 00:18:36,615 --> 00:18:38,575 where a guy                     named Colonel Doumbouya 272 00:18:38,617 --> 00:18:40,953 left training                  with the U.S. Special Forces 273 00:18:40,994 --> 00:18:42,955 in the middle of the night,           while everyone was sleeping, 274 00:18:42,996 --> 00:18:44,748 stormed                       the presidential palace, 275 00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:47,417 and orchestrated a coup d'état. 276 00:18:47,459 --> 00:18:50,129 The coup last year                 overthrew Alpha Condé, 277 00:18:50,170 --> 00:18:52,881 Guinea's first                democratically elected leader. 278 00:18:52,923 --> 00:18:55,134 The U.S. condemned it                 and no longer invites 279 00:18:55,175 --> 00:18:57,469 Guinea to events like              the summit at Fort Benning. 280 00:18:57,511 --> 00:18:59,638 But when it comes                    to Guinean politics, 281 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,223 nothing is simple. 282 00:19:01,265 --> 00:19:04,059 Before the coup, Condé,              with backing from Russia, 283 00:19:04,101 --> 00:19:05,811 had rewritten                        the constitution 284 00:19:05,853 --> 00:19:07,646 to stay in office                     for an extra term. 285 00:19:09,314 --> 00:19:11,024 Guineans took to the streets, 286 00:19:11,066 --> 00:19:13,485 protesting the move                     as undemocratic. 287 00:19:14,611 --> 00:19:16,488 Colonel Doumbouya,                   who was Condé's own 288 00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:17,865 right-hand man at the time, 289 00:19:17,906 --> 00:19:19,908 saw an opportunity                     to seize power. 290 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:22,202 speaking French 291 00:19:26,915 --> 00:19:28,417 [Suroosh]                         To some observers, 292 00:19:28,458 --> 00:19:30,127 it looked like Doumbouya's                American trainers 293 00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:32,004 had been involved                      in the overthrow 294 00:19:32,045 --> 00:19:34,006 of his Russia-backed boss. 295 00:19:34,423 --> 00:19:36,675 There's no evidence of a link                between the coup 296 00:19:36,717 --> 00:19:38,385 and the U.S. training, 297 00:19:38,427 --> 00:19:39,845 but I asked                      Doumbouya's spokesman 298 00:19:39,887 --> 00:19:41,430 for the official line. 299 00:19:41,471 --> 00:19:43,891 Did the U.S. military                offer any assistance 300 00:19:43,932 --> 00:19:45,350 or play a role in the coup? 301 00:19:45,392 --> 00:19:46,852 speaking native language 302 00:20:21,178 --> 00:20:22,721 [Suroosh]   Guinea has               the world's largest deposits 303 00:20:22,763 --> 00:20:24,223 of bauxite. 304 00:20:24,264 --> 00:20:26,058 Under President Condé,                      Russia got 305 00:20:26,099 --> 00:20:27,893 the biggest share                    and the best deals. 306 00:20:27,935 --> 00:20:30,395 Its state-backed                  aluminum company, Rusal, 307 00:20:30,437 --> 00:20:32,564 has a vast footprint                    in the country. 308 00:20:32,606 --> 00:20:35,567 Now Condé is gone,              and Colonel Doumbouya's junta 309 00:20:35,609 --> 00:20:38,403 is engaged in a standoff             with Rusal over ownership 310 00:20:38,445 --> 00:20:40,364 and contracts for its mines. 311 00:20:40,405 --> 00:20:42,407 Much of its stock                      is now in limbo. 312 00:20:42,449 --> 00:20:44,910 For Russia, the coup                   was a major blow. 313 00:20:48,163 --> 00:20:50,582 So we just drove                    about 15 kilometers 314 00:20:50,624 --> 00:20:52,709 from Conakry 315 00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:56,922 to the site of the Rusal mines. 316 00:20:56,964 --> 00:20:58,507 And as soon as we                    got to the area-- 317 00:20:58,548 --> 00:21:01,385 this is the area--              it got nicer all of a sudden. 318 00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:03,595 There's no open sewers.               The roads are paved. 319 00:21:03,637 --> 00:21:05,389 Let's keep moving.                 A guy just clocked us, 320 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:07,432 and he's on the phone. 321 00:21:07,474 --> 00:21:09,017 He definitely saw us come in. 322 00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:11,270 Is the guy still following us? 323 00:21:15,482 --> 00:21:18,026 So that-                     that's all bauxite there. 324 00:21:18,068 --> 00:21:22,072 That big, long,                    reddish-brown mound 325 00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:23,615 is bauxite, 326 00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:25,742 the Russian stockpile. 327 00:21:25,784 --> 00:21:27,452 We can't actually                    get close to it, 328 00:21:27,494 --> 00:21:29,371 so we're going to go on a boat        and see how close we can get. 329 00:21:33,041 --> 00:21:36,461 Bonjour.   Suroosh. 330 00:21:36,503 --> 00:21:38,005 Mamadou Bah monitors 331 00:21:38,046 --> 00:21:39,506 Guinea's mining industry 332 00:21:39,548 --> 00:21:42,134 for a local non-governmental                 organization. 333 00:21:42,175 --> 00:21:46,138 [Mamadou]                          speaking French 334 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:52,978 How does it feel to have               your country be a... 335 00:21:53,020 --> 00:21:55,814 a battleground                    for these big powers? 336 00:21:55,856 --> 00:21:58,734 [Mamadou]                          speaking French 337 00:22:25,469 --> 00:22:27,095 [Suroosh]   Despite                  all its mineral wealth, 338 00:22:27,137 --> 00:22:28,513 Guinea is one of                   the poorest countries 339 00:22:28,555 --> 00:22:30,349 on Earth. 340 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:33,477 So far, Colonel Doumbouya               and his military junta 341 00:22:33,518 --> 00:22:35,103 have done nothing                      to change that. 342 00:22:36,063 --> 00:22:37,856 [gunshot] 343 00:22:37,898 --> 00:22:40,067 Instead, they have                 been accused of eroding 344 00:22:40,108 --> 00:22:43,070 the democratic ideals                they promised to uphold. 345 00:22:43,111 --> 00:22:46,531 In May, the junta announced          a three-year transition period 346 00:22:46,573 --> 00:22:48,367 to civilian rule, cementing 347 00:22:48,408 --> 00:22:49,868 Doumbouya's grip on power. 348 00:22:49,910 --> 00:22:51,828 [gunshots] 349 00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:54,373 Pro-democracy protests,              led by the National Front 350 00:22:54,414 --> 00:22:56,208 for the Defense                     of the Constitution, 351 00:22:56,249 --> 00:22:58,502 or FNDC, had been banned... 352 00:22:58,543 --> 00:23:00,045 speaking native language 353 00:23:00,087 --> 00:23:01,171 [Suroosh]   ...and its members                  are the target 354 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:02,714 of a crackdown by the junta. 355 00:23:02,756 --> 00:23:05,550 speaking native language 356 00:23:08,512 --> 00:23:10,180 [Suroosh] We're following         these guys on the motorcycles. 357 00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:11,890 They're from the FNDC. 358 00:23:11,932 --> 00:23:14,309 We're kind                    of in hostile territory, 359 00:23:14,351 --> 00:23:16,228 so they're taking us                 to a secret location 360 00:23:16,269 --> 00:23:18,230 so they can talk to us. 361 00:23:18,271 --> 00:23:20,565 What's been happening                   with the protests 362 00:23:20,607 --> 00:23:23,735 with your friends                    who are in jail? 363 00:23:23,777 --> 00:23:26,738 speaking French 364 00:23:41,461 --> 00:23:45,090 When you say children are being               taken away 365 00:23:45,132 --> 00:23:47,050 from their homes,                    how old are they? 366 00:23:50,637 --> 00:23:51,680 [translator] From seven years. 367 00:23:53,306 --> 00:23:56,768 [Suroosh] Are these tactics             in Doumbouya's regime 368 00:23:56,810 --> 00:23:58,645 worse than what Alpha Condé                  was doing? 369 00:23:58,687 --> 00:24:00,605 [Sadio]   speaking French 370 00:24:04,651 --> 00:24:05,652 [Suroosh]                            That night, 371 00:24:05,694 --> 00:24:07,779 the roundups started again. 372 00:24:12,742 --> 00:24:15,120 Go, go, go, go, go. 373 00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:38,226 upbeat drum music 374 00:24:38,268 --> 00:24:40,437 Despite the criticism                    and complexity, 375 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:44,149 the U.S. is doubling down            on its engagement in Africa. 376 00:24:44,191 --> 00:24:46,318 This summer, the U.S. led               the biggest-ever show 377 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,736 of force on the continent: 378 00:24:47,777 --> 00:24:49,654 African Lion 2022. 379 00:24:49,696 --> 00:24:52,032 [officer calling] 380 00:24:52,073 --> 00:24:53,825 Thousands                    of African soldiers trained 381 00:24:53,867 --> 00:24:55,869 alongside Americans                       over an area 382 00:24:55,911 --> 00:24:57,954 twice the size of California. 383 00:24:57,996 --> 00:25:00,457 Until recently,                   General Stephen Townsend 384 00:25:00,499 --> 00:25:02,417 was the head                    of U.S. Africa command. 385 00:25:02,459 --> 00:25:04,669 This year, he put                  Russia front and center 386 00:25:04,711 --> 00:25:06,963 as America's main adversary                    in Africa 387 00:25:07,005 --> 00:25:08,965 during his testimony                  to the U.S. Senate. 388 00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:12,636 Our competitors clearly see           Africa's rich potential. 389 00:25:12,677 --> 00:25:14,179 Russia stokes conflict, 390 00:25:14,221 --> 00:25:15,680 pursuing a faded aspiration 391 00:25:15,722 --> 00:25:17,182 to imperial power. 392 00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:19,559 dramatic music 393 00:25:19,601 --> 00:25:21,853 [jets roaring overhead] 394 00:25:23,688 --> 00:25:25,357 Fire. 395 00:25:29,152 --> 00:25:31,196 This is some                  of America's most powerful 396 00:25:31,238 --> 00:25:33,156 military hardware on display 397 00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:37,035 basically to impress, you know,        eight generals upstairs. 398 00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:43,542 And as the threats             from Russia and China increase, 399 00:25:43,583 --> 00:25:45,335 exercises like this                     are becoming 400 00:25:45,377 --> 00:25:47,504 a bigger and bigger                 priority for America 401 00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:50,382 to seek access                  and influence in Africa. 402 00:25:50,423 --> 00:25:51,800 [officer]                     Target group number three, 403 00:25:51,841 --> 00:25:53,677 special instructions                    at my command. 404 00:25:53,718 --> 00:25:54,719 Over. 405 00:25:54,761 --> 00:25:56,555 [officer]   Expend all. 406 00:25:56,596 --> 00:25:58,932 [gunfire] 407 00:26:01,935 --> 00:26:04,854 quiet synth music 408 00:26:08,066 --> 00:26:10,068 Okay, we're going to try          and find General Townsend now. 409 00:26:10,110 --> 00:26:11,987 He's the four-star general             overseeing all of this, 410 00:26:12,028 --> 00:26:13,321 and he's about to retire. 411 00:26:13,363 --> 00:26:14,573 Let's see if we can                  catch up with him. 412 00:26:17,284 --> 00:26:18,994 In your statement, you talked          about the growing threat 413 00:26:19,035 --> 00:26:20,370 of Russia, and I was wondering 414 00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:22,330 if you could speak a little bit                about how 415 00:26:22,372 --> 00:26:24,833 what we saw today relates                 to this threat. 416 00:26:24,874 --> 00:26:27,294 [Townsend] I would say look               at Ukraine today, 417 00:26:27,335 --> 00:26:29,838 and what you see                      on one side is, 418 00:26:29,879 --> 00:26:33,425 you see an aggressive Russia, 419 00:26:33,466 --> 00:26:37,429 without cause,                    unlawfully attacking 420 00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:39,764 an adjacent sovereign nation. 421 00:26:39,806 --> 00:26:42,183 And you see on the other side,            the broader alliance 422 00:26:42,225 --> 00:26:44,853 from the world                    trying to help defend 423 00:26:44,894 --> 00:26:46,438 and protect that country. 424 00:26:46,479 --> 00:26:48,940 So I would say that                   this exercise here, 425 00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:50,859 although not focused                    on any country, 426 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:52,611 is about building                       a partnership. 427 00:26:52,652 --> 00:26:55,905 And that will come in handy          against some threat, some day. 428 00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:58,408 There have been                   U.S.-trained officers 429 00:26:58,450 --> 00:27:00,619 that orchestrated coups             in their-their countries 430 00:27:00,660 --> 00:27:03,371 in Africa in recent years. 431 00:27:03,413 --> 00:27:05,582 Isn't it a dangerous game             to be creating officers 432 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:07,083 from unstable nations? 433 00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:08,335 No, I don't-- 434 00:27:08,376 --> 00:27:10,128 I think it's actually                    the opposite. 435 00:27:10,170 --> 00:27:12,339 Every time U.S. forces train, 436 00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:14,841 we also train things like             the law of armed conflict, 437 00:27:14,883 --> 00:27:17,052 humanitarian values, 438 00:27:17,093 --> 00:27:18,928 and the importance                   of civilian control 439 00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:20,472 of the military. 440 00:27:20,513 --> 00:27:23,391 So I think the more training            we do, the less likely 441 00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:24,809 we'll have outcomes like that. 442 00:27:24,851 --> 00:27:25,977 -Thank you.                          -Thank you. 443 00:27:26,019 --> 00:27:27,228 Sir, General... 444 00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:28,355 [Suroosh]                   Enjoy your retirement, sir. 445 00:27:28,396 --> 00:27:29,689 Thank you. 446 00:27:29,731 --> 00:27:31,066 [Suroosh]                    Shortly after this exercise, 447 00:27:31,107 --> 00:27:34,152 Townsend retired as head              of U.S. Africa Command. 448 00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:36,988 His successor will face                     a continent 449 00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:39,324 strained and divided                 by rival great powers 450 00:27:39,366 --> 00:27:41,826 like at no time                     since the Cold War. 451 00:27:41,868 --> 00:27:44,788 The U.S. has                 a checkered history in Africa, 452 00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:47,332 but with Russia and China           aggressively pursuing inroads 453 00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:49,584 on the continent,                      America's battle 454 00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:53,004 for hearts and minds in Africa       is only just getting started.