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Tonight, the two-part Southern Charm Reunion begins.
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We got death, taxes, and the Southern Charm Reunion.
Here we go.
I'm back. I'm in fighting weight.
- [bell dings] - You look amazing. Wow.
I ordered Shep's ass. What do you think it is?
Uh, Strawberry foam?
- A flat white. - [both laughing]
People should buckle up because I'm enraged with anger.
But, like, I'm looking forward to just getting it
all hashed out on the table, so, you know,
the friendships that I want to save, I can save them.
There are certain people in the group
that need to be kind of held accountable.
I should have put thumbtacks in my toes.
Then if I get nervous, I'm going to press on that thumbtack.
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MAN: Okay, talent's going down.
All right, let's do this.
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Sit while we take your look.
You got this, you cunty ass, bitch.
Ooh, I like this suit.
All righty. All eyes on Andy.
All right, here we go, Andy, I'm sending to you.
Five, four, three, two.
Hey, everybody, welcome
to the Southern Charm Season 11 Reunion.
I'm your host, Andy Cohen,
ready to break down an explosive season
that had a full-blown love triangle,
and a triangle of dysfunction between bros.
And we are going to cover it all.
- Hey, Madison. - Hi, Andy.
- You look stunning as always. - As do you.
- How is life with a newborn? - I'm obsessed.
- You want more? - Yes.
Anything you want to announce today?
- Do I look like I'm going to? - No.
Watch where you're stepping.
Listen, I'm going to have a hot girl summer
- and then maybe next year. - Okay.
Hey, Sheppy, how's your new house treating you?
It's good, it's about to go under the knife for renovations.
The house looks huge. Shep, was your zipper undone?
- Yes. - I'm sorry, I had to tell him.
- I kept looking-- - Okay, good. I'm glad you did.
- I know. - Good friends tell.
- His fly says "Shepic." - Jesus Christ.
Anyway. Hey, Venita.
- Hey, Andy. - I love your dress.
I was wondering how it was going to be sitting down,
- but it's perfect. - I think it's perfect.
- You never miss. - Thank you.
- Hi, Austen. - Hey, Andy.
- You look sharp. - Thank you.
Not wearing the bow tie Craig gave you.
I have worn that bow tie so many times.
- Okay. - But no, I'm not.
- Hey, Salley. - Hey, Andy.
You definitely don't look like the type
to hang out in a chicken coop.
Yeah, no. That was-
- Do you miss those chickens? - I literally do not.
- Yeah, you don't. - No.
- Hi, Craig. - What's up?
How are you feeling about tonight?
I don't know. It's fucking-- it's reunion day.
- [laughter] - I know there will be conflict,
but it doesn't seem as malicious as other years.
- Did you watch the season? - No.
- I lived it.
Austen, what do you think about Craig not watching this season?
I understand sometimes where it's like you watch it,
you see something, it makes you, you know, reactive.
Maybe it's like, "That's not how I remember it."
But I think it is interesting how it, like, gets spun
into the reality that Craig remembers it in.
And it's like, "Wait, wait, wait.
"Wait, wait. Three of us were there."
Shep, do you agree with Austen's assessment?
Yeah, I think Craig has a reality distortion.
You call Austen victim mentality,
but then you exhibit that a lot, too.
You're like, "You don't understand.
It was taken out of context," and you're like, "No--"
Charley, you're nodding.
Yeah, I do think that in some certain situations
that I've been a part of, I do not have the same
explanation of it that Craig does.
I just call it how I see it.
Especially this year, I was 100% myself.
And, like, that's all you can do on this
- is be vulnerable. - Right.
Craig, do you have a goal for tonight
relating to your friendship with Austen?
I just-- I'm here to hear everyone out.
And I'm in a space in my life where I look for peace now.
And I mean, ideal scenario,
then we would get back to where we were.
Do you have a different understanding
of the word peace than some of us?
Like, yelling at people is not very peaceful.
[laughs] Yeah.
And the show has begun, ladies and gentlemen.
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What's your goal for tonight?
Yeah, I mean, it's super, you know,
disappointing to hear things
that were said throughout the season.
Austen, keep running your mouth and Shep's gonna say something
that's gonna ruin your life.
- Okay, Craig. - Oh, my God.
Are you going to acknowledge that your life looks the same
that it did five years ago?
I cannot believe someone
who claims to be a very close friend of mine
is saying such horrible things about me.
So we have parted ways
and that is what needs to happen.
That's some shit that needs to be flushed out, no doubt.
All right, well, we'll see where the night takes us.
- Hey, Molly. - Hi.
Last year, you played the euphonium.
This year you sang beautifully, by the way.
- I loved hearing you sing. - Thank you so much.
- Hey, Rodrigo. - Hey, Andy.
Your engagement party was beautiful.
Interesting that the gay guy is going to wind up
being the first gentleman in the group to tie the knot.
- I know. - It took him 12 years, Andy.
- Yeah. - And it was my idea.
- Hey, Charley. - Hey.
- Happy birthday. - Thank you.
What birthday are we celebrating?
- 28. - Wow.
- It's also your first reunion. - It is.
How does it feel being the new girl on the block?
- It's intimidating, for sure. - She's nervous.
- You got this. - Okay. Thank you.
You got this.
Whit, it's your first time here as well.
Who gave you the best advice coming in since tonight?
It'd be a tie between Shep and Austen.
ANDY: Okay. And what advice did they give you?
Speak when you have the opportunity, don't wait.
If you got something to say, say it then.
All right.
Well, this season, Charleston was hit
with a quadruple dose of bachelor energy
when Craig, Shep, Whitner,
and eventually Austen were all single.
Summer 2025. Me and Shep are single.
Watch out. [screams]
- You live in Charleston, right? - Yeah.
I live next to Moe's Crosstown.
Oh, my God. I'm so close to there.
Oh, my God.
[cheering]
Molly, is it a net positive
or negative for the women of Charleston
to have these three back on the singles together?
- Molly. - Well, I'm getting stared down.
- Uh... - Positive for me.
Positive for you. Venita?
Mm, I'm a go negative.
It's not back on the town in the way
- that it used to be. - No, no.
The three of us used to walk down King Street and terrorize,
and that's just not the way that it is anymore.
It's flat out not.
Rodrigo, you called Charleston Temptation Island.
Do you think any of these gentlemen
are ready to resist that temptation and settle down?
Really looking at it, I think it'd be Whit and Craig.
I mean, I think right now you're newly single again.
You're out there exploring, and Lord knows
that dick gets you in trouble left, right, and sideways.
That dick don't stop exploring.
Ladies, we got a lot of audience comments
that were perplexed that none of you went for Whit this season.
Lucy Keefe from Bloomington, Illinois said,
"Whitner's clearly the most eligible, hottest,
"most successful, and non-toxic guy on the show in a long time."
Madison, what's your opinion here?
I have actually known Whitner for a really long time.
He hung out with a good friend of mine.
I told the girls, especially Venita,
I was like, "Okay, you should go after Whitner."
Yeah, Venita, you mentioned on Watch What Happens Live
that you felt some romantic vibes early towards Whit.
Why didn't you pursue it?
Because when I tried to get Rodrigo to be my backup,
he was like, "Oh, Whit, what about Charley?"
And I was like, "You're supposed to be
"teeing me up, not Charley."
Well, I didn't realize that you were serious about it.
Venita's friends with Whitner's mom.
- I'm friends with his mom, too. - Well, then that's perfect.
Yeah, I think she would be the best wife.
- Wow. - Applications considered.
Whit, did you know Venita felt that way?
No, I was unaware of this sentiment until--
- Oh, are you blushing? - No, yeah.
I'm a little blushed now. Didn't know this was coming.
Salley, on Watch What Happens Live,
you said you don't really know Whitner yet.
Why are you and Charley not interested in Whitner
when clearly he seems like an eligible catch?
You know, I think that Whitner's great.
I love Whitner. But I don't think that you--
I don't think that you really know him yet.
- What did you mean by that? - Okay, I didn't mean it as--
It did come off poorly if I could have...
Okay, I'm sorry.
I love me and Whitner's friendship,
but he talks a little bit too much about himself for me.
- Okay. Here we go. - I'm sorry.
Have you ever heard that before, Whitner?
- I've never noticed. - [Rodrigo laughs]
All the guys that are sitting on these couches
talk about themselves all the time.
I want to know, ladies,
what you women of Charleston are looking for in a man.
- Everything that this guy has. - Wow.
- Sick. - Sick.
- Oh, my God. - No, I'm just kidding.
Honestly, my biggest thing is a personality.
She did say she wants Austen's personality...
- On you. - ...on my body.
I told Craig he would be the perfect man
if he had Austen's personality in his looks.
And somehow we were both offended.
- Damn. Yeah. - [laughter]
I was like, "What?"
- But Austen's like-- - What a stray.
- Honestly? - Kill two birds with one stone.
Okay, so Charley, we're going to get into it more later,
but you and Craig dated this season.
I'm wondering what he was like
- as a suitor. - Oh, he was great.
And then this world got involved and it just went away.
Okay, I hate that I'm blamed for y'all not being together.
Because that is bullshit.
No, the whole time you just were like,
"Charley's talking to other boys."
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Oh.
Okay, I hate that I'm blamed for y'all not being together.
Because that is bullshit.
No, the whole time you just were like,
"Charley's talking to other boys."
She was.
Right, but she promised
she wasn't talking to anyone else the whole time
- we were together. - I did not. I did not.
There was a time whenever you were like,
"Oh, my God, should I get back on Raya?"
And I was like, "Hell yeah, I'm on Raya."
That's not-- that's way late--
the way that we were talking during the season was--
I was led to believe that we were--
So the horrible things that you were saying,
you were looking out for me.
But I was believing the girl that I was talking to.
- And we talked about that. - Yeah.
Like, how would I not believe her?
But you're right, I should have believed, you know.
God, I can't date like that.
Okay, we're going to dig more
into the three of you in a little bit.
But I want to move on.
This season, Molly proved once again
that her musical talents are limitless.
So when Salley started flapping her lips
- about Molly's nip-tuck... - [laughs] Lips.
...Molly told Salley to change her tune.
But that didn't stop the ladies' friendship
from hitting a few sour notes.
So Molly, you told me on Watch What Happens Live
about a new guy in your life.
Are you two still seeing each other?
Yes, we are.
What can you tell us about him?
He's a musician in Charleston.
- He's a great musician. - He's good.
- Yeah, he's extremely talented. - How old is your guy?
- He's 56, and I'm 38, so. - All right.
- I like a little seasoning. - That's great.
Have you fully conquered your stage fright, Molly?
No, but it's gotten immensely better.
I actually asked Austen and Craig
if they would book me for a gig at By The Way.
- And now I do two days a month. - At By The Way?
- Yeah. - That is very smart.
- It's one of the most popular-- -I'm sure it is.
Yeah. It's incredible. It's been really fun.
Molly, things between you and Salley
went south fast this season.
- You are being shitty. - You've been fucking shitty.
You are shitty, always, you fucking asshole.
What were you thinking when you heard
that Salley was gossiping about your vagina?
That was literally, like, the one thing that I've had done
that I didn't really want to tell the world.
So I was pretty pissed about that.
Also, I never told her about it.
I did mention the fact that you had a little nip-tuck.
Oh, that's how she knows.
The one thing that I didn't really
want to tell the entire world
was that I got my labia cut off, okay?
She's claiming that I have a boyfriend
- and that he bought it for me. - Did you tell her that?
No, I said that someone paid for it,
but I didn't say her boyfriend.
- That one's her. - Oh, well--
I paid for it out of my account in 2019.
So you're the one over here spreading falsehoods.
Venita, viewers had a lot to say
about you sharing Molly's surgery.
KitchenSeat4362 said,
"Exposing someone who's supposed to be your friend
"in such an intimate way is disgusting."
Yeah, it is disgusting.
And when Molly approached me about it the first time
when we were filming, the first thing I did was apologize
and said I told her that she had every right
and still has every right to be mad at me for it.
And then as it was airing, I made sure I apologized
to her again because I should not have done that.
Yeah, she's apologized.
She sent multiple flower arrangements.
She would apologize and there wasn't,
like, a but after the apology.
You know, it was just like, "I'm sorry."
- Yeah, and how do I fix it? - How can we fix this?
And, you know, that's a good step.
- I can appreciate that. - Thank you.
Salley, did you apologize?
I just apologized for bringing it to the group.
I didn't really want the information
about her vagina.
The problem with Salley is she's so easy to talk to
that Salley tells everyone everything.
But I feel like that's something that's so wild
that you should know not to fucking repeat it.
Well, there's a fucking camera in my face and I'm like,
if Venita's telling me about your vagina on camera,
then obviously it's not a secret.
Charlie, do you feel like you can trust Salley with info?
I do, if I tell her, please do not share this,
she will take it to the grave.
I just don't think that
I should have to say that all the time.
The requirement for a disclaimer is a little bit questionable.
- Yeah, you shouldn't have to. - All right,
so Molly, it sounds like you and Venita
are good now and you and Salley are good now.
- Yeah. - Okay.
Yeah, we're in a good place.
Would you trust them both with secrets?
I don't know if the trust is, like, 100% back,
- but we're in a good place. - Okay.
So Madison, we saw you go through
so many changes this season.
Are we gonna miss this house, kinda?
Yeah, but I'm so excited to move.
That can all go right out there at the screened porch.
Chop, chop. Working for that cash tip.
Yeah.
Did you ever think you could love something so much?
- Yeah, you. - Aww.
What's the difference about motherhood this time
versus 13 years ago when Hudson was born?
Well, obviously I was a single mother.
I was trying to make ends meet and it was a struggle,
but I made it happen.
And now I have a wonderful husband
who is so much help and supports me in my career.
And I'm living my best life.
- Wow. - Yeah.
It was so moving
that you named Teddi after your dad.
You know, I'm finally at the point
where I'm able to say her name without crying.
I actually,
I have a crooked lip due to my father.
We both had the same smile and I actually think
- she has the same smile. - Aw.
Yeah, so I think it's something
that I look at her and I remember him.
I saw an Instagram post of Salley and Austen
out with you and Brett and the baby.
What was it like hanging out with Miss Teddi?
We had so much fun.
It was like a tale of, like, two, you know,
- parents and two non-parents. - Yes.
Anyone else in the cast have baby fever
now that you've seen Teddi?
- You do? - I've always had baby fever.
Yeah, I think I'm ready.
Wow. Austen, are you going to give Salley a baby?
- [laughter] - Oh, my God.
- [Austen groans] - Yeah.
- They would be cute. - Look, Salley and I have
a wonderful relationship
and we've hung out all sorts of times.
And yeah, there have been, like, drunken makeouts
and there certainly have been.
Wait, so no sleepovers?
We have had a sleepover.
It was very innocent, we were watching TV
- and we woke up and... - Literally.
What did you watch on TV?
- We watched Heated Rivalry. - Oh, we did?
- Oh, we sure did. - Hold on.
- We did.
Stop it. Take a break.
We watched the first couple episodes.
You all watched Heated Rivalry together?
- It's gay porn, Andy. - I know what it is.
It didn't get me in the mood. Shep is so confused.
- [giggling] - What is it?
It's a show about closeted gay hockey players
and there's a lot of sex in it.
Heated Rivalry is supposed to be our story.
Yes, it is your story. Yes, it is.
Wait, you guys haven't, like, gone all the way.
- No. - [laughter]
- Who hasn't? - Gone all the way? What are we?
You guys are dumb as fuck if you think
you're going to sit here and tell us
that y'all have not had sex.
We're not fucking.
I feel like Salley would tell us if they had.
I feel like she wants to tell us.
I'm not saying anything.
Listen.
Salley, have you and Austen been intimate?
- Austen? - Salley?
- Help me out. - I don't need to help you out.
- He's done enough. - Making out is intimate.
- Making out is big. - We've done a bit more.
I don't know, like, I don't know why it’s so--
I mean, y'all, we are not in sex ed.
Guys, we're not doing this like big thing
in secret that you think that you know we are.
It's just, like, nothing fucking happening.
I don't understand why you're being weird about it.
- You didn't cheat on Audrey. - No. I set a clear boundary.
I'm just like, we're not going to do this because this is,
- like, very-- - He did.
It felt very disrespectful to Audrey, right?
I know, but we're now eight months away from Audrey.
- Yes. - I know, I know, but like...
Like, there's nothing to be ashamed about.
- No, there's nothing. - You're both single.
I don't understand the reason to not say it.
Fucking.
There has been more than kissing.
- Okay. - Yeah, fucking.
Stop lying.
I'm trying to be more of a lady, damn it.
Okay, but if you did sleep together,
- why would that be bad? - It's not bad.
- I don't think it's a big deal.
But, like, I have thought that it was a big deal.
- How about that? - I think Salley had just said
- you guys... - So you're embarrassed.
- I'm not embarrassed. - You're embarrassed of me?
- No. - Well, you're red as a beet.
- Uh-oh. - fuck y'all.
- Like, fuck y'all. - No, fuck you
because you're lying.
- Coming up... - Everyone here
has a traumatizing story with Craig.
Okay, guys.
You yelled at me off camera in front of my mother.
Ooh...
Well, Salley, have you and Austen been intimate?
I think Salley had just said you guys had done more.
So you're embarrassed.
- I'm not embarrassed. No. - You're embarrassed of me?
- No. - Well, you're red as a beet.
- Uh-oh. - fuck y'all.
- Like, fuck y'all. - No, fuck you
because you're lying.
Look, I'm not, okay?
- [chuckles] - We're not fucking.
But Salley's giving me something totally different
than you're giving me just with her eyes, so...
She's obsessed with Austen. That's why
- she's giving him googly eyes. - I'm not obsessed.
In a cute way. That's why I said googly eyes.
In a cute way, yes. In a cute way. A cute obsession.
Like, I've gone out with Austen and, like,
I have seen you talk to other girls
and, like, leave with other girls.
And I totally am fine with it.
Uh, I feel like you get upset about it.
No, I don't love it, but I'm not, like,
banging on his door, like, why are you with another bitch?
Madison. Why are they lying?
- [indistinct chatter] - It's not a big deal.
I do my thing, and Salley does her thing,
and that's just the way that I like it.
And sometimes we have sleepovers.
- Sometimes you do it together? - Yeah.
Okay, uh, Salley,
it was very sweet seeing you
- with your niece. - Oh.
God, can I keep her?
Can I keep you, little baby?
I will bring her in your room tonight.
She's sleeping with me.
You want the 11:00 to 6:00 shift?
I've had the night shift all day.
You got the night shift? All right.
I'm usually up until 4:00 a.m. anyway, so it's okay.
Seems like all this got you thinking about
- starting your own family... - Yeah, I mean,
- I've never not been-- - ...with Austen.
[laughter]
I've never not been thinking about starting my own family.
It's just about, you know, finding the right guy,
and obviously I have problems doing that.
So your therapist told you,
if you want to be a wife, act like a wife.
Your response was, "Why the fuck would I act
"like a wife if I'm not a wife?"
- Exactly. - Madison, does Salley
need to act like a wife to become a wife?
- Yes. - Wow.
- Really? - Yeah.
To her credit, she said she was an awesome fiancé.
I would act like a wife if I'm in a relationship.
Like, I'm a very good girlfriend.
Well, okay, I'm just basing this off of conversations
that Austen and I have had, and he even said,
if you were a little more tamed down
and didn't run the streets, that he would look at you
in a different light than just a hookup.
It's not like I'm out there hooking up with people.
- I'm having a fun. - I didn't mean
running the streets like that, there's more like,
you are a bar rat.
But that's because I'm single.
Did you not have this conversation
- with me about Salley? - Yes.
Because Salley and I also have a conversation.
She's like, "I don't understand. Like, I like Austen.
"Why is he not liking me?"
But like, an accumulation of like...
[stammering]
- she's single, she's hot... - Get it out, Austen.
...she wants to run around and do her thing, and she can.
I don't go out when I'm in a relationship.
- Okay. - I'm single. How the fuck...
- No, Madison's saying... - why isn't she allowed
- to do that? - She is.
But he's saying seven days a week wasn't appealing to him.
When you don't see me Monday to Friday, motherfucker,
cooking my dinners at my house.
That is not happening.
No, because he only calls on Sundays.
- Yes, it is. - Are you still working?
- I am. - She is a working girl.
- Serious. - No, I know.
But like, you're out three, four nights a week, minimum.
Molly is nodding her head yes.
Well, I mean, you do go out a lot.
Go out and have fun and do your thing.
And sleep with, you know, whomever.
- That's not what I do. - I don't care.
But there is a body count of a lot of people
- that like, I know. - Not the body count.
Well, I mean, excuse me, I can start
with the body count on you.
- Sure. Okay. - Okay.
Your Bravo body count is not small.
I'm not going to be, like, you know, bullied into,
like, wanting to date Salley, like, this is not happening.
I'm not bullying you into wanting to Sa--
I'm just saying that Salley is allowed
to do whatever Salley wants to do.
And she calls me and tells me.
And I'm like, you know, "Go on, girl."
- Okay. Okay. - All good.
- Stay fuck buddies.
- I-- - Rod, shut the fuck up.
But to complete the question,
the girl that you are looking for,
is it someone that's living a very single life,
which we're all saying is fine, or are you going to
try to find someone that's like, staying in?
- He's not looking for anybody. - Yeah, I'm not.
- Right. - She has a great job.
- Yeah. - She's the catch of a lifetime.
- I like the... -I have a great job.
So once again, "Austen, date Salley or fuck off."
No one's asked me to date me.
I don't even know if I want to date.
Words out of my mouth.
I told Austen if he made Salley his girlfriend,
that she would be the most loyal girlfriend he's had.
- Ever. Ever. - Without question.
I'll do your laundry. I'll cook you food.
- Whoa. - I'm a really good girlfriend.
I probably do too much for my man.
Do you like dating older gay guys?
[laughter]
Do we get a break to go to the restroom or anything?
Control room, can we have a pee break?
- And some water? - Yeah, water.
Okay, yes, five. We're gonna take a break.
- We'll be right back. - I need a beer.
A beer.
Up next, did Audrey ever want to confront Salley?
- Yes. - Really?
All right guys, I'm gonna send it to Andy
- here in a second. - What's your bracelet?
This is the Greek evil eye that was supposed to
prevent negative energy from coming my way.
And then I wore an empath spray
that a magician made me in Nashville.
Because I give so much of my energy out,
he was worried that I would absorb negative energy.
Craig, a magician in Nashville gave you empath spray?
You should spray that in your mouth because that's crazy.
Stand by, I'm about to count Andy it in.
- Three, two... - Welcome back.
Well, the thing that shocked fans more
than Austen's slow motion breakup with Audrey
might have been his decision
to become a devoted cat dad this season.
- [Austen meows] - [kittens meow]
[Austen chuckles] Oh, my God.
My heart melts every time.
Here's your favorite thing. Watching me scoop your poop.
[meows]
Pipe. There you are.
Do what you were purposed to do.
Be emotional support for me.
How are Piper and Martini?
Absolutely perfect creatures.
- Piper's getting a little-- - You said that you struggle
with commitment sometimes.
Has raising two cats helped you along the way?
The most uncommitted animal you could have in the house?
- No, reptiles. - Wait, wait, wait.
What did you say, Whitner?
He said the most noncommittal animal,
- the cat. - That's fact, right?
And I got cats because I can leave town...
- And they stay with Rodrigo. - Yeah.
You got two so that they can hang out together.
And Craig, look man, that was good advice from you, man.
Yeah, I have a lot of cat wisdom to purvey.
We've talked a lot about Audrey.
Let's just dabble a little bit more.
It seems like from the beginning of the season
you were questioning your relationship.
I just feel that when she's here,
I'm like, this is fucking good and easy.
I'm not gonna lie, it's been easy.
- Well, that's big. - But then I also have
the other end of it where I feel like
- when she's gone... - Yes.
...I'm like...
is this, like, forever?
We got a lot of viewer comments about that.
ComfortableBuyer2902 said, "Did you notice
"when Austen was talking about their relationship
"he only referenced himself?"
Uh, Jendra2 said, "Austen making her drive to him?
"Nope, nope, and nope."
First off, we did go back and forth often.
And she wanted to come to me, right?
Because I have a house, I live alone,
she has a roommate, so like...
You didn't like her apartment either.
Hated her little house. And she hated it too.
Returning to a roommate situation is a nightmare.
- I can understand that. - Yeah, yeah.
Craig said you were stuck and unhappy.
You're the only unhappy person here
because you're living a lie.
That's wrong. I was not unhappy.
Do you think you just made that up?
I just don't know where he got that info from.
Like, Craig, you didn't have these convos
that you made me think that we did.
You literally thought that her name was Aubrey.
Yeah, I only met her four times.
So like, for you to say, like, "Austen's telling everyone
"that he's unhappy," and Audrey and I both were like,
- what the fuck? - No, it came from my analysis
of the situation where he did say
he wasn't gonna drive to Charlotte anymore,
he didn't think it was gonna work out.
I was just like, he feels stuck in this relationship.
And again, that delivery, terrible,
but no, my analysis, I stand by.
Madison, we got a lot of response
about your conversation with Audrey on the beach.
So, is Craig and Salley a thing, or is it...
It's okay. Okay, come on, come on.
Honestly, I think Salley's got the hots for Austen.
The lapetitfromage said, "At least she's keeping it
"100 with Audrey."
- I always keep it 100. - Yes, you do.
I just felt like she was so kind,
and I felt like she needed to know because I was like,
"Hey, take a look around,
"be aware, because she may take your man."
- Oh, my God. - And, here we are.
Oh.
I mean, look, it was shitty, it's just shitty, you know.
Obviously, Audrey was like, "What the fuck,
"you know, I don't feel good about this."
Rodrigo, you were close with Audrey.
Did you feel like Salley put any kind of a wedge
between Austen and Audrey?
- Yes. - Oh, you do?
Because, I mean, listen, you know I love you,
but, I mean, I was like, "Girl, tone it down."
You want to suck his dick, we get it,
but it was just like, I felt so bad for her,
because she was clearly very hurt.
And I feel like obviously when looking at this season
where we end up, she's going to be even more hurt.
Yeah.
Did Audrey ever want to confront Salley?
- Yes. - Really?
- Yes. And... - Give us those tickets.
- I kind of stopped it. - You did?
- Why? - And I shouldn't have,
I shouldn't have.
And I would have totally been open to that.
I'm honestly shocked she didn't that night at the bar.
Do I lose Audrey or where'd she go?
Over there.
I want to know what happened at that conversation.
Yeah, I don't really remember, but now that it's being
talked about, it for sure had to have been about Salley.
Well, Audrey has a lot to say about this and she submitted
a video, which we're going to play right now.
Are you for real?
- No. I'm just kidding. - Oh my God!
My heart!
Andy! Fuck!
I was going to do the let's bring her out,
but I've done that so many times.
- Oh, my God. - Hold on.
So Austen, are you still in touch with her?
We have spoken a couple times
and yeah, like, she's not pleased about
- the things that she's seen-- - She's watching the show.
She's getting sent things, but I met up with her, you know,
when trailer got released and I was like, let's,
you know, have, you know, like lunch and a beer.
And we hung out and Shep was with us,
and she came to meet up with us at the bar that night.
And it was nice and I was just really happy
that she was being so just, you know, cool.
Now she's not the most pleased because she's like,
"I've been made to look like a fool."
Do you think she was trying to win you back that night?
I don't think so.
- She looks better than ever. - Yeah, no shit.
Are you and Audrey still in touch, Rod?
Well, I mean, after like a couple weeks ago
after she, you know, reamed Tyler and I
for being complicit in his bullshit,
no offense, babe, but you know, I felt bad.
And so both Tyler and I, you know, tried to
like let her know, and I was like,
"Can we just call you so we can have this conversation?"
She was like, "I'll call you,"
and then never heard back, since she's hurt.
At the end of the day, Audrey's gonna be
the girl that got away for Austen.
- Really? - That might be true.
And I believe that for the rest of his life.
Wow.
Up next... do you think Craig is a narcissist?
Yes.
Welcome back. Well, Salley and Austen
may be the newest item on Southern Charm,
but I've always said Craig and Austen
are the greatest love story on Bravo.
But this season an offhanded comment at Whit's Literary Party
had Craig and Austen on different pages.
Salley's never happy with her shots.
Okay.
I don't know why it bothers you what other people do.
Just be yourself, man. I'm being myself.
I'm having late nights in my house partying
with everyone, and it's been a blast.
So for you to hate on fun is silly.
Whoa, Craig has emerged.
Craig accused you of having FOMO,
that you were jealous of him being single.
Do you have FOMO?
Uh, no. No FOMO.
I don't understand how anyone can say that
because Austen could've come to the hot tub.
Yeah, like, I could've.
- Because he had a girlfriend. - Yeah.
She wouldn't have cared. It wasn't like an orgy.
Then why didn't you come?
Because I didn't have FOMO. That's why.
I didn't give a shit about the hot tub.
- Why wasn't it like an orgy? - They wore
their jeans in the hot tub.
No we didn't. It was really fun.
Why wasn't Shep in the hot tub?
- He was. - Oh, he was.
He was always there.
This might shock people, but like,
Salley and I have never been in a hot tub by ourselves.
- Ever. - Okay.
Like, no, but I think people think
we were in the hot tub alone. It was always--
- I think you made that clear. - Oh.
Then why are people so confused that we didn't hook up?
Because we were in a hot tub at four o'clock in the morning.
- Not every time. - They were just confused that
none of us were hooking up in the hot tub.
Show of hands, who thinks Austen had FOMO?
Crickets.
I will say, last season, Austen, you felt like Craig
wanted to stay home and hide out.
- Yeah. - Here, he was ready to go.
So, you had to feel kind of good about that in a way.
It's what you were asking for all along.
Yeah. And then, like, it turned sideways quick.
I mean, you were basically-- the fact that you've been
hanging with the girls in your hot tub is bullshit.
Were you trying to provoke him?
I thought it was a gentle ribbing.
It was a poke.
Okay, but poking someone until they break down
is called manipulation.
That is not what manipulation is.
That's just having an explosive temper.
Poking someone and poking someone and needling them
until they freak out is, like,
that's such a weird thing to do to someone.
Craig, I'd never know which version of you
was going to show up, and that's the problem.
I don't know if it's Craig that loves to laugh it all off
and smile and be Craig-y,
or if it's going to be the Craig that I saw there.
Austen, you revealed that you had
a bigger issue with Craig, which had been on your mind.
- I feel manipulated. - Why?
Okay, look, last year, you came to me
and we had this very serious conversation.
And you were like, I have an addiction problem.
I just want you to loosen the reins a little bit.
I can't because I don't have any leash on myself.
That's any addict.
Now, you're, like, Mr. Shot King.
You accused him of manipulating that conversation.
What did you mean by that?
Yeah, the point that I was trying to get across was,
Craig and I were going to sit down and talk about
- a whole bunch of stuff. - Yes.
And then it all turned into Craig's drinking.
And you know what? I was like, "Fine, nothing else matters
"because Craig is choosing to confide in me.
"I feel like we haven't had this sort of talk."
Then he chose to open up to me and I was like,
"Oh, man, that's beautiful."
And not going to lie, man, off camera,
he was asking my producers and shit, like,
"Hey, man, did you cry at that?
"Wasn't that..." I was like, "Dude, what the fuck?
That is minimizing everything that I think that went on.
I only said that because I was so vulnerable
and I was freaking out of how embarrassed
and that it would be thrown in my face.
Eventually, it did.
Okay, then we moved on from that.
We moved on from that and I still thought,
I was like, "Okay, well here we are,"
and drinking is taking place a whole lot,
and I'm not the drinking police.
I don't fucking care if Craig drinks, I promise you.
It was just like, so like,
"Wait, how are you gonna say this to me?"
- That was a year later. - And now, here we are.
Shep, what was your response to Austen feeling manipulated
by Craig relating to his alcohol confession?
Well...
You called me right after the dinner
to let me know everything that happened
because you're my gossip girl to let me know that you thought
- Austen was way out of line. - He was wrong-headed on that
because he was being completely naked and vulnerable
and I see where Austen's saying that,
but at the same time, I think there's other arguments
that Austen could've employed in that.
Austen, I was surprised by the level of acrimony.
You said you hate Craig.
Austen hates me because he's--
Yes, I do fucking hate you.
Apologize to Craig.
He's not gonna apologize to me.
Apologize to Craig. Apologize now.
My jaw was on the damn table.
I've never heard this sort of vitriol before.
Do you hate him?
Yeah, sometimes I do fucking hate Craig.
That's just so harsh.
And it felt really good to just like say it.
And I wanted to see if that was gonna hit you or affect you
or if you wanted to change
in any sort of way, shape, or form.
- No. - And what was his reaction?
It had the opposite effect.
He was like, "I don't fucking care."
No, it's not, I said,
"Clearly, this isn't a friendship anymore."
Like, to me, if you say "hate," that's the end.
"Clearly, this isn't a friendship anymore."
To me, if you say "hate," that's the end.
By the way, seeing like I hate you,
it's like not saying the shit that you said to me,
Craig, which is like unforgivable shit in my opinion.
Are you gonna acknowledge that your life looks
the same that it did five years ago?
I just cannot believe that you're actually saying that.
Like, you haven't built anything.
What have you built?
That's, like, not a friend thing to say at all, by the way.
That's really rough. That's, that's browbeating.
That's, that's, um, lesser-than treatment.
Dude, you don't give a fuck about me.
Like, you just wanna say nasty-ass things like that,
which you know are scathing.
And I've gotten to such a boiling point, I cannot do this.
I cannot go in a circle of bullshit.
Maybe we just need to quit it, fucking, like, now.
Craig, do you stand by saying that Austen
has nothing to show for his last five years?
No, it was retaliatory.
Like, we were arguing at the table, and I...
Do you wanna apologize for saying that?
Yeah, I am sorry for that, but I, I was mad
that he kept attacking me, and, like,
having a problem with everything that I did.
Craig, it's hard for you to say I'm sorry.
It's very hard.
Trying to get apologies or things out of you,
like, is like talking over the wall.
Yeah, okay. I just disagree.
Which is like, you don't see it.
Charley, what do you think?
After, like, Whit's party,
I was, like, like, proud of Craig, like,
for how he apologized, and whenever...
What was the apology? What do you mean?
I apologized to you right after.
- On camera. - At Whit's?
- Yes, at the table. - I don't remember this, Craig.
I sat you down and apologized.
Wild claim. Wild claim.
It was so unfair. They all were there.
Charley's sitting here. Charley's not making this up.
They're gonna show it right now.
I just don't remember it. I don't remember it at all.
- Let's flash to it. - Thank you.
At the end of the day,
I shouldn't have said this stuff.
It happened, and I'm sorry.
But, like, you just fucking triggered me.
"But," and then you say, "But, you did trigger me."
Yeah, anything before "but" doesn't count.
Well, how many times are you gonna attack me
- when we're filming? - I don't know,
but I don't-- I would never say that
kind of shit when my back is against the wall.
Everyone here has a traumatizing story with Craig.
Yeah, not outside of filming.
Put me in a pressure cooker long enough.
That's not true, you yelled at her outside of filming.
- She cried. - I didn't yell at her.
Apparently, according to Charley and Salley,
you screamed at her.
You yelled at me off camera in front of my mother.
- Ooh. - Okay, guys.
You were there. Y'all were all there.
- Um, yeah, I was there. - No, I wasn't, I said I--
They were there when you yelled at her.
I didn't yell at her.
- You made her cry! - That's different than yelling.
- What do you mean? - ...yelled to make her cry!
- Charley was there. - I called her out about two--
Whenever you called her out, you do it in a very...
- Aggressive way. - Okay, guys.
Do you know how many bad moments everyone here has?
You're saying that you never yell at them
except if you're on camera,
and they're all saying that that is not a representation.
Okay.
Whit, your analysis of Craig and Austen's relationship
got a lot of comments from viewers.
Scarletfire77 said, "When Whitner said,
'Austen has a victim complex and Craig is a narcissist,'
"it was like, 'Wow, he just summarized
"'the entire relationship in one sentence.'"
Whit, how were you able to get your head around
that relationship so quickly?
Um, I have eyes and ears.
Craig did Whit sum up your friendship
accurately with Austen?
No, narcissists are incapable of having empathy,
and literally, as an empath, it would be
impossible for me to be a narcissist.
I do a lot of things wrong, but I'm far from a narcissist.
I mean, I'm only going off of what I see.
You scream at people in the bar.
Whit, it's your first season.
You don't know anything about this world.
Please stop.
Um, do you think Craig is a narcissist?
Yes. This year, cemented it for me.
I was like, "This is some textbook narcissist shit."
That's the most insulting...
So you don't think I'm empathetic?
- No. - It's really mean
to say that about someone.
Calling someone a narcissist means they're incapable of
showing empathy, and everything they do is for show.
If that's how you believe about me,
then you shouldn't be friends with me.
And like, here we are again, Craig.
You're like, "Then you shouldn't be friends with me."
Dude, you're such a fucking dickhead.
Well, it seems like there's a lot more to discuss.
We're gonna leave it there for right now.
We'll be right back.
Goddamn.
I know.
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