1 00:00:05,130 --> 00:00:07,215 [upbeat music playing] 2 00:00:08,550 --> 00:00:11,594 Tonight, the two-part Southern Charm Reunion begins. 3 00:00:11,845 --> 00:00:14,347 ♪♪♪ 4 00:00:14,472 --> 00:00:18,018 We got death, taxes, and the Southern Charm Reunion. 5 00:00:21,813 --> 00:00:23,398 Here we go. 6 00:00:25,984 --> 00:00:28,194 I'm back. I'm in fighting weight. 7 00:00:28,403 --> 00:00:30,363 - [bell dings] - You look amazing. Wow. 8 00:00:34,534 --> 00:00:37,203 I ordered Shep's ass. What do you think it is? 9 00:00:37,328 --> 00:00:39,497 Uh, Strawberry foam? 10 00:00:39,664 --> 00:00:41,708 - A flat white. - [both laughing] 11 00:00:42,667 --> 00:00:44,961 People should buckle up because I'm enraged with anger. 12 00:00:45,128 --> 00:00:47,672 But, like, I'm looking forward to just getting it 13 00:00:47,797 --> 00:00:49,966 all hashed out on the table, so, you know, 14 00:00:50,091 --> 00:00:52,469 the friendships that I want to save, I can save them. 15 00:00:53,386 --> 00:00:55,388 There are certain people in the group 16 00:00:55,513 --> 00:00:57,849 that need to be kind of held accountable. 17 00:00:58,808 --> 00:01:01,019 I should have put thumbtacks in my toes. 18 00:01:01,227 --> 00:01:03,938 Then if I get nervous, I'm going to press on that thumbtack. 19 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:06,316 [eerie music playing] 20 00:01:06,441 --> 00:01:08,068 MAN: Okay, talent's going down. 21 00:01:09,235 --> 00:01:10,445 All right, let's do this. 22 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:12,822 [tense music playing] 23 00:01:13,031 --> 00:01:14,282 Sit while we take your look. 24 00:01:17,619 --> 00:01:20,288 You got this, you cunty ass, bitch. 25 00:01:25,418 --> 00:01:26,670 Ooh, I like this suit. 26 00:01:26,795 --> 00:01:28,672 All righty. All eyes on Andy. 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,674 All right, here we go, Andy, I'm sending to you. 28 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:34,469 Five, four, three, two. 29 00:01:36,137 --> 00:01:37,889 Hey, everybody, welcome 30 00:01:38,056 --> 00:01:41,226 to the Southern Charm Season 11 Reunion. 31 00:01:41,434 --> 00:01:43,228 I'm your host, Andy Cohen, 32 00:01:43,395 --> 00:01:46,398 ready to break down an explosive season 33 00:01:46,606 --> 00:01:49,442 that had a full-blown love triangle, 34 00:01:49,651 --> 00:01:54,614 and a triangle of dysfunction between bros. 35 00:01:54,823 --> 00:01:57,701 And we are going to cover it all. 36 00:01:58,326 --> 00:01:59,744 - Hey, Madison. - Hi, Andy. 37 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:01,538 - You look stunning as always. - As do you. 38 00:02:01,705 --> 00:02:04,791 - How is life with a newborn? - I'm obsessed. 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,418 - You want more? - Yes. 40 00:02:06,626 --> 00:02:09,170 Anything you want to announce today? 41 00:02:10,296 --> 00:02:12,424 - Do I look like I'm going to? - No. 42 00:02:12,632 --> 00:02:14,426 Watch where you're stepping. 43 00:02:14,551 --> 00:02:16,261 Listen, I'm going to have a hot girl summer 44 00:02:16,344 --> 00:02:18,263 - and then maybe next year. - Okay. 45 00:02:18,388 --> 00:02:20,682 Hey, Sheppy, how's your new house treating you? 46 00:02:20,807 --> 00:02:24,686 It's good, it's about to go under the knife for renovations. 47 00:02:26,062 --> 00:02:28,773 The house looks huge. Shep, was your zipper undone? 48 00:02:28,898 --> 00:02:30,525 - Yes. - I'm sorry, I had to tell him. 49 00:02:30,650 --> 00:02:32,152 - I kept looking-- - Okay, good. I'm glad you did. 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,695 - I know. - Good friends tell. 51 00:02:33,862 --> 00:02:36,906 - His fly says "Shepic." - Jesus Christ. 52 00:02:37,032 --> 00:02:38,908 Anyway. Hey, Venita. 53 00:02:39,117 --> 00:02:40,577 - Hey, Andy. - I love your dress. 54 00:02:40,785 --> 00:02:42,787 I was wondering how it was going to be sitting down, 55 00:02:42,996 --> 00:02:44,247 - but it's perfect. - I think it's perfect. 56 00:02:44,372 --> 00:02:46,082 - You never miss. - Thank you. 57 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:47,334 - Hi, Austen. - Hey, Andy. 58 00:02:47,542 --> 00:02:48,960 - You look sharp. - Thank you. 59 00:02:49,085 --> 00:02:50,837 Not wearing the bow tie Craig gave you. 60 00:02:51,046 --> 00:02:53,548 I have worn that bow tie so many times. 61 00:02:53,673 --> 00:02:55,592 - Okay. - But no, I'm not. 62 00:02:55,675 --> 00:02:57,010 - Hey, Salley. - Hey, Andy. 63 00:02:57,218 --> 00:02:58,928 You definitely don't look like the type 64 00:02:59,095 --> 00:03:00,972 to hang out in a chicken coop. 65 00:03:01,139 --> 00:03:03,224 Yeah, no. That was- 66 00:03:03,391 --> 00:03:06,144 - Do you miss those chickens? - I literally do not. 67 00:03:06,269 --> 00:03:07,937 - Yeah, you don't. - No. 68 00:03:08,146 --> 00:03:09,689 - Hi, Craig. - What's up? 69 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:11,733 How are you feeling about tonight? 70 00:03:11,900 --> 00:03:13,526 I don't know. It's fucking-- it's reunion day. 71 00:03:13,693 --> 00:03:15,945 - [laughter] - I know there will be conflict, 72 00:03:16,154 --> 00:03:19,824 but it doesn't seem as malicious as other years. 73 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:23,244 - Did you watch the season? - No. 74 00:03:23,411 --> 00:03:25,330 - No. - I lived it. 75 00:03:25,455 --> 00:03:28,249 Austen, what do you think about Craig not watching this season? 76 00:03:29,834 --> 00:03:32,545 I understand sometimes where it's like you watch it, 77 00:03:32,671 --> 00:03:34,756 you see something, it makes you, you know, reactive. 78 00:03:34,964 --> 00:03:36,591 Maybe it's like, "That's not how I remember it." 79 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,096 But I think it is interesting how it, like, gets spun 80 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:44,182 into the reality that Craig remembers it in. 81 00:03:44,349 --> 00:03:45,517 And it's like, "Wait, wait, wait. 82 00:03:45,725 --> 00:03:47,227 "Wait, wait. Three of us were there." 83 00:03:47,394 --> 00:03:49,562 Shep, do you agree with Austen's assessment? 84 00:03:49,771 --> 00:03:52,482 Yeah, I think Craig has a reality distortion. 85 00:03:52,607 --> 00:03:54,067 You call Austen victim mentality, 86 00:03:54,192 --> 00:03:55,860 but then you exhibit that a lot, too. 87 00:03:56,069 --> 00:03:57,779 You're like, "You don't understand. 88 00:03:57,987 --> 00:03:59,864 It was taken out of context," and you're like, "No--" 89 00:04:00,031 --> 00:04:01,449 Charley, you're nodding. 90 00:04:01,658 --> 00:04:03,910 Yeah, I do think that in some certain situations 91 00:04:03,993 --> 00:04:07,038 that I've been a part of, I do not have the same 92 00:04:07,163 --> 00:04:09,666 explanation of it that Craig does. 93 00:04:10,291 --> 00:04:11,626 I just call it how I see it. 94 00:04:11,835 --> 00:04:14,713 Especially this year, I was 100% myself. 95 00:04:14,838 --> 00:04:16,297 And, like, that's all you can do on this 96 00:04:16,423 --> 00:04:18,133 - is be vulnerable. - Right. 97 00:04:18,299 --> 00:04:19,968 Craig, do you have a goal for tonight 98 00:04:20,176 --> 00:04:22,470 relating to your friendship with Austen? 99 00:04:22,679 --> 00:04:26,057 I just-- I'm here to hear everyone out. 100 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:29,728 And I'm in a space in my life where I look for peace now. 101 00:04:29,894 --> 00:04:31,312 And I mean, ideal scenario, 102 00:04:31,521 --> 00:04:33,773 then we would get back to where we were. 103 00:04:33,982 --> 00:04:35,150 Do you have a different understanding 104 00:04:35,358 --> 00:04:37,027 of the word peace than some of us? 105 00:04:37,193 --> 00:04:39,446 Like, yelling at people is not very peaceful. 106 00:04:39,571 --> 00:04:40,780 [laughs] Yeah. 107 00:04:42,365 --> 00:04:44,701 And the show has begun, ladies and gentlemen. 108 00:04:44,868 --> 00:04:46,786 [laughter] 109 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:48,538 What's your goal for tonight? 110 00:04:48,663 --> 00:04:51,750 Yeah, I mean, it's super, you know, 111 00:04:51,916 --> 00:04:53,918 disappointing to hear things 112 00:04:54,002 --> 00:04:56,838 that were said throughout the season. 113 00:04:57,047 --> 00:04:59,466 Austen, keep running your mouth and Shep's gonna say something 114 00:04:59,632 --> 00:05:01,468 that's gonna ruin your life. 115 00:05:01,676 --> 00:05:02,969 - Okay, Craig. - Oh, my God. 116 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:09,476 Are you going to acknowledge that your life looks the same 117 00:05:09,642 --> 00:05:10,769 that it did five years ago? 118 00:05:12,812 --> 00:05:14,189 I cannot believe someone 119 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:16,441 who claims to be a very close friend of mine 120 00:05:16,566 --> 00:05:19,110 is saying such horrible things about me. 121 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:22,280 So we have parted ways 122 00:05:22,489 --> 00:05:24,407 and that is what needs to happen. 123 00:05:24,616 --> 00:05:27,911 That's some shit that needs to be flushed out, no doubt. 124 00:05:28,119 --> 00:05:30,538 All right, well, we'll see where the night takes us. 125 00:05:30,705 --> 00:05:32,165 - Hey, Molly. - Hi. 126 00:05:32,332 --> 00:05:34,000 Last year, you played the euphonium. 127 00:05:34,209 --> 00:05:36,920 This year you sang beautifully, by the way. 128 00:05:37,128 --> 00:05:39,839 - I loved hearing you sing. - Thank you so much. 129 00:05:40,048 --> 00:05:41,341 - Hey, Rodrigo. - Hey, Andy. 130 00:05:41,549 --> 00:05:43,426 Your engagement party was beautiful. 131 00:05:43,635 --> 00:05:45,887 Interesting that the gay guy is going to wind up 132 00:05:46,096 --> 00:05:47,972 being the first gentleman in the group to tie the knot. 133 00:05:48,098 --> 00:05:50,350 - I know. - It took him 12 years, Andy. 134 00:05:50,558 --> 00:05:52,936 - Yeah. - And it was my idea. 135 00:05:53,103 --> 00:05:55,188 - Hey, Charley. - Hey. 136 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:57,857 - Happy birthday. - Thank you. 137 00:05:57,982 --> 00:05:59,401 What birthday are we celebrating? 138 00:05:59,567 --> 00:06:01,236 - 28. - Wow. 139 00:06:01,444 --> 00:06:02,862 - It's also your first reunion. - It is. 140 00:06:03,071 --> 00:06:04,864 How does it feel being the new girl on the block? 141 00:06:05,073 --> 00:06:07,492 - It's intimidating, for sure. - She's nervous. 142 00:06:07,701 --> 00:06:09,411 - You got this. - Okay. Thank you. 143 00:06:09,536 --> 00:06:10,745 You got this. 144 00:06:10,954 --> 00:06:13,707 Whit, it's your first time here as well. 145 00:06:13,873 --> 00:06:16,042 Who gave you the best advice coming in since tonight? 146 00:06:16,251 --> 00:06:18,211 It'd be a tie between Shep and Austen. 147 00:06:18,294 --> 00:06:20,714 ANDY: Okay. And what advice did they give you? 148 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,340 Speak when you have the opportunity, don't wait. 149 00:06:22,507 --> 00:06:23,758 If you got something to say, say it then. 150 00:06:23,967 --> 00:06:25,301 All right. 151 00:06:25,427 --> 00:06:27,637 Well, this season, Charleston was hit 152 00:06:27,846 --> 00:06:31,516 with a quadruple dose of bachelor energy 153 00:06:31,641 --> 00:06:33,643 when Craig, Shep, Whitner, 154 00:06:33,768 --> 00:06:37,355 and eventually Austen were all single. 155 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:40,567 Summer 2025. Me and Shep are single. 156 00:06:40,692 --> 00:06:42,610 Watch out. [screams] 157 00:06:42,819 --> 00:06:44,195 - You live in Charleston, right? - Yeah. 158 00:06:44,362 --> 00:06:45,530 I live next to Moe's Crosstown. 159 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:47,907 Oh, my God. I'm so close to there. 160 00:06:48,033 --> 00:06:49,534 Oh, my God. 161 00:06:49,659 --> 00:06:51,661 [cheering] 162 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:54,080 Molly, is it a net positive 163 00:06:54,205 --> 00:06:56,583 or negative for the women of Charleston 164 00:06:56,708 --> 00:06:58,752 to have these three back on the singles together? 165 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,463 - Molly. - Well, I'm getting stared down. 166 00:07:01,588 --> 00:07:04,341 - Uh... - Positive for me. 167 00:07:04,549 --> 00:07:06,718 Positive for you. Venita? 168 00:07:06,926 --> 00:07:09,054 Mm, I'm a go negative. 169 00:07:09,888 --> 00:07:12,098 It's not back on the town in the way 170 00:07:12,307 --> 00:07:13,975 - that it used to be. - No, no. 171 00:07:14,142 --> 00:07:16,019 The three of us used to walk down King Street and terrorize, 172 00:07:16,227 --> 00:07:17,645 and that's just not the way that it is anymore. 173 00:07:17,854 --> 00:07:19,356 It's flat out not. 174 00:07:19,564 --> 00:07:22,233 Rodrigo, you called Charleston Temptation Island. 175 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:24,110 Do you think any of these gentlemen 176 00:07:24,235 --> 00:07:26,529 are ready to resist that temptation and settle down? 177 00:07:26,696 --> 00:07:29,949 Really looking at it, I think it'd be Whit and Craig. 178 00:07:30,116 --> 00:07:32,911 I mean, I think right now you're newly single again. 179 00:07:33,036 --> 00:07:35,372 You're out there exploring, and Lord knows 180 00:07:35,580 --> 00:07:37,665 that dick gets you in trouble left, right, and sideways. 181 00:07:37,874 --> 00:07:39,959 That dick don't stop exploring. 182 00:07:40,919 --> 00:07:43,213 Ladies, we got a lot of audience comments 183 00:07:43,338 --> 00:07:47,217 that were perplexed that none of you went for Whit this season. 184 00:07:47,425 --> 00:07:49,427 Lucy Keefe from Bloomington, Illinois said, 185 00:07:49,552 --> 00:07:51,388 "Whitner's clearly the most eligible, hottest, 186 00:07:51,554 --> 00:07:56,559 "most successful, and non-toxic guy on the show in a long time." 187 00:07:56,685 --> 00:07:58,520 Madison, what's your opinion here? 188 00:07:58,728 --> 00:08:01,690 I have actually known Whitner for a really long time. 189 00:08:01,898 --> 00:08:04,150 He hung out with a good friend of mine. 190 00:08:04,317 --> 00:08:05,902 I told the girls, especially Venita, 191 00:08:06,111 --> 00:08:09,155 I was like, "Okay, you should go after Whitner." 192 00:08:09,364 --> 00:08:11,366 Yeah, Venita, you mentioned on Watch What Happens Live 193 00:08:11,533 --> 00:08:14,369 that you felt some romantic vibes early towards Whit. 194 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:16,413 Why didn't you pursue it? 195 00:08:16,538 --> 00:08:18,873 Because when I tried to get Rodrigo to be my backup, 196 00:08:18,998 --> 00:08:21,126 he was like, "Oh, Whit, what about Charley?" 197 00:08:21,251 --> 00:08:22,669 And I was like, "You're supposed to be 198 00:08:22,877 --> 00:08:24,504 "teeing me up, not Charley." 199 00:08:24,713 --> 00:08:25,797 Well, I didn't realize that you were serious about it. 200 00:08:26,006 --> 00:08:27,632 Venita's friends with Whitner's mom. 201 00:08:27,841 --> 00:08:29,175 - I'm friends with his mom, too. - Well, then that's perfect. 202 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:31,761 Yeah, I think she would be the best wife. 203 00:08:31,970 --> 00:08:33,304 - Wow. - Applications considered. 204 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:35,390 Whit, did you know Venita felt that way? 205 00:08:35,598 --> 00:08:37,934 No, I was unaware of this sentiment until-- 206 00:08:38,059 --> 00:08:39,561 - Oh, are you blushing? - No, yeah. 207 00:08:39,728 --> 00:08:41,646 I'm a little blushed now. Didn't know this was coming. 208 00:08:41,730 --> 00:08:43,231 Salley, on Watch What Happens Live, 209 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,608 you said you don't really know Whitner yet. 210 00:08:45,775 --> 00:08:48,695 Why are you and Charley not interested in Whitner 211 00:08:48,903 --> 00:08:51,406 when clearly he seems like an eligible catch? 212 00:08:51,614 --> 00:08:54,659 You know, I think that Whitner's great. 213 00:08:54,868 --> 00:08:57,829 I love Whitner. But I don't think that you-- 214 00:08:58,038 --> 00:08:59,998 I don't think that you really know him yet. 215 00:09:00,165 --> 00:09:02,584 - What did you mean by that? - Okay, I didn't mean it as-- 216 00:09:02,792 --> 00:09:04,377 It did come off poorly if I could have... 217 00:09:04,502 --> 00:09:05,670 Okay, I'm sorry. 218 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:08,256 I love me and Whitner's friendship, 219 00:09:08,465 --> 00:09:12,177 but he talks a little bit too much about himself for me. 220 00:09:12,344 --> 00:09:13,887 - Okay. Here we go. - I'm sorry. 221 00:09:14,054 --> 00:09:15,597 Have you ever heard that before, Whitner? 222 00:09:15,805 --> 00:09:17,557 - I've never noticed. - [Rodrigo laughs] 223 00:09:17,766 --> 00:09:19,309 All the guys that are sitting on these couches 224 00:09:19,434 --> 00:09:20,894 talk about themselves all the time. 225 00:09:21,102 --> 00:09:22,729 I want to know, ladies, 226 00:09:22,854 --> 00:09:27,067 what you women of Charleston are looking for in a man. 227 00:09:28,276 --> 00:09:31,196 - Everything that this guy has. - Wow. 228 00:09:31,363 --> 00:09:32,697 - Sick. - Sick. 229 00:09:32,822 --> 00:09:34,407 - Oh, my God. - No, I'm just kidding. 230 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:37,118 Honestly, my biggest thing is a personality. 231 00:09:38,828 --> 00:09:41,331 She did say she wants Austen's personality... 232 00:09:41,498 --> 00:09:43,375 - On you. - ...on my body. 233 00:09:43,541 --> 00:09:45,460 I told Craig he would be the perfect man 234 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:48,213 if he had Austen's personality in his looks. 235 00:09:48,421 --> 00:09:50,340 And somehow we were both offended. 236 00:09:50,423 --> 00:09:52,425 - Damn. Yeah. - [laughter] 237 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:53,802 I was like, "What?" 238 00:09:54,010 --> 00:09:55,887 - But Austen's like-- - What a stray. 239 00:09:56,012 --> 00:09:58,515 - Honestly? - Kill two birds with one stone. 240 00:09:58,723 --> 00:10:01,393 Okay, so Charley, we're going to get into it more later, 241 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:02,936 but you and Craig dated this season. 242 00:10:03,144 --> 00:10:04,771 I'm wondering what he was like 243 00:10:04,896 --> 00:10:06,648 - as a suitor. - Oh, he was great. 244 00:10:06,815 --> 00:10:10,151 And then this world got involved and it just went away. 245 00:10:11,736 --> 00:10:15,073 Okay, I hate that I'm blamed for y'all not being together. 246 00:10:15,281 --> 00:10:16,491 Because that is bullshit. 247 00:10:17,575 --> 00:10:19,077 No, the whole time you just were like, 248 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:20,495 "Charley's talking to other boys." 249 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:22,580 [tense music playing] 250 00:10:22,747 --> 00:10:23,998 Oh. 251 00:10:36,011 --> 00:10:38,179 Okay, I hate that I'm blamed for y'all not being together. 252 00:10:38,847 --> 00:10:40,515 Because that is bullshit. 253 00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:42,267 No, the whole time you just were like, 254 00:10:42,434 --> 00:10:44,436 "Charley's talking to other boys." 255 00:10:44,561 --> 00:10:46,312 She was. 256 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:48,857 Right, but she promised 257 00:10:49,065 --> 00:10:50,483 she wasn't talking to anyone else the whole time 258 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:52,402 - we were together. - I did not. I did not. 259 00:10:52,569 --> 00:10:53,945 There was a time whenever you were like, 260 00:10:54,070 --> 00:10:55,613 "Oh, my God, should I get back on Raya?" 261 00:10:55,739 --> 00:10:56,823 And I was like, "Hell yeah, I'm on Raya." 262 00:10:57,032 --> 00:10:58,658 That's not-- that's way late-- 263 00:10:58,867 --> 00:11:02,287 the way that we were talking during the season was-- 264 00:11:02,454 --> 00:11:04,664 I was led to believe that we were-- 265 00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:06,124 So the horrible things that you were saying, 266 00:11:06,291 --> 00:11:07,834 you were looking out for me. 267 00:11:07,959 --> 00:11:09,836 But I was believing the girl that I was talking to. 268 00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:11,463 - And we talked about that. - Yeah. 269 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:13,590 Like, how would I not believe her? 270 00:11:13,798 --> 00:11:15,759 But you're right, I should have believed, you know. 271 00:11:15,925 --> 00:11:17,677 God, I can't date like that. 272 00:11:17,886 --> 00:11:19,637 Okay, we're going to dig more 273 00:11:19,846 --> 00:11:21,973 into the three of you in a little bit. 274 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:23,683 But I want to move on. 275 00:11:23,892 --> 00:11:26,978 This season, Molly proved once again 276 00:11:27,187 --> 00:11:30,565 that her musical talents are limitless. 277 00:11:30,732 --> 00:11:33,485 So when Salley started flapping her lips 278 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:36,321 - about Molly's nip-tuck... - [laughs] Lips. 279 00:11:36,446 --> 00:11:39,157 ...Molly told Salley to change her tune. 280 00:11:39,282 --> 00:11:41,701 But that didn't stop the ladies' friendship 281 00:11:41,910 --> 00:11:44,204 from hitting a few sour notes. 282 00:11:44,329 --> 00:11:46,664 So Molly, you told me on Watch What Happens Live 283 00:11:46,790 --> 00:11:48,166 about a new guy in your life. 284 00:11:48,333 --> 00:11:49,167 Are you two still seeing each other? 285 00:11:49,334 --> 00:11:50,543 Yes, we are. 286 00:11:50,752 --> 00:11:52,128 What can you tell us about him? 287 00:11:52,295 --> 00:11:53,505 He's a musician in Charleston. 288 00:11:53,713 --> 00:11:55,298 - He's a great musician. - He's good. 289 00:11:55,423 --> 00:11:58,259 - Yeah, he's extremely talented. - How old is your guy? 290 00:11:58,468 --> 00:12:01,221 - He's 56, and I'm 38, so. - All right. 291 00:12:01,388 --> 00:12:03,431 - I like a little seasoning. - That's great. 292 00:12:03,598 --> 00:12:06,643 Have you fully conquered your stage fright, Molly? 293 00:12:06,768 --> 00:12:09,646 No, but it's gotten immensely better. 294 00:12:09,771 --> 00:12:11,231 I actually asked Austen and Craig 295 00:12:11,398 --> 00:12:13,566 if they would book me for a gig at By The Way. 296 00:12:13,775 --> 00:12:16,486 - And now I do two days a month. - At By The Way? 297 00:12:16,611 --> 00:12:17,904 - Yeah. - That is very smart. 298 00:12:18,113 --> 00:12:19,823 - It's one of the most popular-- -I'm sure it is. 299 00:12:19,948 --> 00:12:21,533 Yeah. It's incredible. It's been really fun. 300 00:12:21,741 --> 00:12:23,827 Molly, things between you and Salley 301 00:12:23,952 --> 00:12:26,037 went south fast this season. 302 00:12:26,621 --> 00:12:29,749 - You are being shitty. - You've been fucking shitty. 303 00:12:29,916 --> 00:12:32,252 You are shitty, always, you fucking asshole. 304 00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:36,047 What were you thinking when you heard 305 00:12:36,172 --> 00:12:39,134 that Salley was gossiping about your vagina? 306 00:12:39,300 --> 00:12:42,053 That was literally, like, the one thing that I've had done 307 00:12:42,178 --> 00:12:44,973 that I didn't really want to tell the world. 308 00:12:45,098 --> 00:12:46,891 So I was pretty pissed about that. 309 00:12:47,058 --> 00:12:48,768 Also, I never told her about it. 310 00:12:49,686 --> 00:12:53,940 I did mention the fact that you had a little nip-tuck. 311 00:12:54,149 --> 00:12:56,067 Oh, that's how she knows. 312 00:12:56,276 --> 00:12:57,360 The one thing that I didn't really 313 00:12:57,569 --> 00:12:58,903 want to tell the entire world 314 00:12:59,029 --> 00:13:01,489 was that I got my labia cut off, okay? 315 00:13:01,656 --> 00:13:03,158 She's claiming that I have a boyfriend 316 00:13:03,366 --> 00:13:05,410 - and that he bought it for me. - Did you tell her that? 317 00:13:05,577 --> 00:13:07,245 No, I said that someone paid for it, 318 00:13:07,454 --> 00:13:08,788 but I didn't say her boyfriend. 319 00:13:08,955 --> 00:13:10,331 - That one's her. - Oh, well-- 320 00:13:10,540 --> 00:13:12,792 I paid for it out of my account in 2019. 321 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:16,629 So you're the one over here spreading falsehoods. 322 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:19,382 Venita, viewers had a lot to say 323 00:13:19,549 --> 00:13:21,509 about you sharing Molly's surgery. 324 00:13:21,634 --> 00:13:23,845 KitchenSeat4362 said, 325 00:13:24,012 --> 00:13:26,097 "Exposing someone who's supposed to be your friend 326 00:13:26,222 --> 00:13:28,725 "in such an intimate way is disgusting." 327 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:30,518 Yeah, it is disgusting. 328 00:13:30,685 --> 00:13:32,729 And when Molly approached me about it the first time 329 00:13:32,937 --> 00:13:34,689 when we were filming, the first thing I did was apologize 330 00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:36,566 and said I told her that she had every right 331 00:13:36,733 --> 00:13:38,610 and still has every right to be mad at me for it. 332 00:13:38,777 --> 00:13:41,446 And then as it was airing, I made sure I apologized 333 00:13:41,613 --> 00:13:43,073 to her again because I should not have done that. 334 00:13:43,198 --> 00:13:44,991 Yeah, she's apologized. 335 00:13:45,158 --> 00:13:46,951 She sent multiple flower arrangements. 336 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,453 She would apologize and there wasn't, 337 00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:50,121 like, a but after the apology. 338 00:13:50,246 --> 00:13:51,998 You know, it was just like, "I'm sorry." 339 00:13:52,165 --> 00:13:54,626 - Yeah, and how do I fix it? - How can we fix this? 340 00:13:54,793 --> 00:13:56,628 And, you know, that's a good step. 341 00:13:56,795 --> 00:13:58,797 - I can appreciate that. - Thank you. 342 00:13:58,922 --> 00:14:00,674 Salley, did you apologize? 343 00:14:00,882 --> 00:14:02,676 I just apologized for bringing it to the group. 344 00:14:02,884 --> 00:14:04,219 I didn't really want the information 345 00:14:04,386 --> 00:14:05,929 about her vagina. 346 00:14:06,054 --> 00:14:08,598 The problem with Salley is she's so easy to talk to 347 00:14:08,723 --> 00:14:10,850 that Salley tells everyone everything. 348 00:14:10,975 --> 00:14:12,519 But I feel like that's something that's so wild 349 00:14:12,686 --> 00:14:14,354 that you should know not to fucking repeat it. 350 00:14:14,479 --> 00:14:16,272 Well, there's a fucking camera in my face and I'm like, 351 00:14:16,481 --> 00:14:18,149 if Venita's telling me about your vagina on camera, 352 00:14:18,316 --> 00:14:19,901 then obviously it's not a secret. 353 00:14:20,110 --> 00:14:22,696 Charlie, do you feel like you can trust Salley with info? 354 00:14:22,904 --> 00:14:26,199 I do, if I tell her, please do not share this, 355 00:14:26,366 --> 00:14:27,617 she will take it to the grave. 356 00:14:27,742 --> 00:14:28,993 I just don't think that 357 00:14:29,202 --> 00:14:30,912 I should have to say that all the time. 358 00:14:31,037 --> 00:14:32,497 The requirement for a disclaimer is a little bit questionable. 359 00:14:32,622 --> 00:14:34,249 - Yeah, you shouldn't have to. - All right, 360 00:14:34,457 --> 00:14:37,335 so Molly, it sounds like you and Venita 361 00:14:37,460 --> 00:14:40,130 are good now and you and Salley are good now. 362 00:14:40,338 --> 00:14:41,715 - Yeah. - Okay. 363 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,174 Yeah, we're in a good place. 364 00:14:43,299 --> 00:14:45,051 Would you trust them both with secrets? 365 00:14:45,218 --> 00:14:47,345 I don't know if the trust is, like, 100% back, 366 00:14:47,554 --> 00:14:49,347 - but we're in a good place. - Okay. 367 00:14:49,514 --> 00:14:51,474 So Madison, we saw you go through 368 00:14:51,641 --> 00:14:53,268 so many changes this season. 369 00:14:53,393 --> 00:14:55,562 Are we gonna miss this house, kinda? 370 00:14:55,729 --> 00:14:57,731 Yeah, but I'm so excited to move. 371 00:14:57,856 --> 00:15:00,066 That can all go right out there at the screened porch. 372 00:15:00,275 --> 00:15:02,527 Chop, chop. Working for that cash tip. 373 00:15:02,736 --> 00:15:03,820 Yeah. 374 00:15:04,446 --> 00:15:06,156 Did you ever think you could love something so much? 375 00:15:06,364 --> 00:15:08,491 - Yeah, you. - Aww. 376 00:15:09,325 --> 00:15:12,245 What's the difference about motherhood this time 377 00:15:12,412 --> 00:15:15,290 versus 13 years ago when Hudson was born? 378 00:15:15,498 --> 00:15:17,751 Well, obviously I was a single mother. 379 00:15:17,876 --> 00:15:21,046 I was trying to make ends meet and it was a struggle, 380 00:15:21,212 --> 00:15:22,547 but I made it happen. 381 00:15:22,714 --> 00:15:24,674 And now I have a wonderful husband 382 00:15:24,883 --> 00:15:28,511 who is so much help and supports me in my career. 383 00:15:28,678 --> 00:15:31,306 And I'm living my best life. 384 00:15:31,514 --> 00:15:32,891 - Wow. - Yeah. 385 00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:34,642 It was so moving 386 00:15:34,768 --> 00:15:36,895 that you named Teddi after your dad. 387 00:15:37,687 --> 00:15:39,105 You know, I'm finally at the point 388 00:15:39,314 --> 00:15:42,901 where I'm able to say her name without crying. 389 00:15:43,068 --> 00:15:44,611 I actually, 390 00:15:44,778 --> 00:15:47,072 I have a crooked lip due to my father. 391 00:15:47,197 --> 00:15:50,158 We both had the same smile and I actually think 392 00:15:50,367 --> 00:15:52,994 - she has the same smile. - Aw. 393 00:15:53,161 --> 00:15:54,829 Yeah, so I think it's something 394 00:15:55,038 --> 00:15:57,874 that I look at her and I remember him. 395 00:15:57,999 --> 00:16:00,585 I saw an Instagram post of Salley and Austen 396 00:16:00,794 --> 00:16:03,922 out with you and Brett and the baby. 397 00:16:04,047 --> 00:16:06,633 What was it like hanging out with Miss Teddi? 398 00:16:06,758 --> 00:16:08,426 We had so much fun. 399 00:16:08,551 --> 00:16:10,845 It was like a tale of, like, two, you know, 400 00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:13,014 - parents and two non-parents. - Yes. 401 00:16:13,223 --> 00:16:16,893 Anyone else in the cast have baby fever 402 00:16:17,060 --> 00:16:19,020 now that you've seen Teddi? 403 00:16:21,231 --> 00:16:22,482 - You do? - I've always had baby fever. 404 00:16:22,649 --> 00:16:24,192 Yeah, I think I'm ready. 405 00:16:24,317 --> 00:16:26,403 Wow. Austen, are you going to give Salley a baby? 406 00:16:26,611 --> 00:16:27,737 - [laughter] - Oh, my God. 407 00:16:27,904 --> 00:16:29,781 - [Austen groans] - Yeah. 408 00:16:29,906 --> 00:16:32,409 - They would be cute. - Look, Salley and I have 409 00:16:32,617 --> 00:16:34,285 a wonderful relationship 410 00:16:34,411 --> 00:16:35,912 and we've hung out all sorts of times. 411 00:16:36,121 --> 00:16:37,831 And yeah, there have been, like, drunken makeouts 412 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:39,416 and there certainly have been. 413 00:16:39,541 --> 00:16:41,710 Wait, so no sleepovers? 414 00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:43,628 We have had a sleepover. 415 00:16:43,837 --> 00:16:45,672 It was very innocent, we were watching TV 416 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,507 - and we woke up and... - Literally. 417 00:16:47,716 --> 00:16:49,134 What did you watch on TV? 418 00:16:49,259 --> 00:16:50,844 - We watched Heated Rivalry. - Oh, we did? 419 00:16:51,011 --> 00:16:52,303 - Oh, we sure did. - Hold on. 420 00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:53,805 - Hold on. - We did. 421 00:16:53,972 --> 00:16:55,473 - Hold on. - We did. 422 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,975 Stop it. Take a break. 423 00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:58,935 We watched the first couple episodes. 424 00:16:59,102 --> 00:17:00,520 You all watched Heated Rivalry together? 425 00:17:00,687 --> 00:17:02,731 - It's gay porn, Andy. - I know what it is. 426 00:17:02,856 --> 00:17:05,442 It didn't get me in the mood. Shep is so confused. 427 00:17:05,650 --> 00:17:07,027 - [giggling] - What is it? 428 00:17:07,569 --> 00:17:11,448 It's a show about closeted gay hockey players 429 00:17:11,573 --> 00:17:13,491 and there's a lot of sex in it. 430 00:17:13,616 --> 00:17:15,160 Heated Rivalry is supposed to be our story. 431 00:17:15,326 --> 00:17:18,538 Yes, it is your story. Yes, it is. 432 00:17:18,663 --> 00:17:21,332 Wait, you guys haven't, like, gone all the way. 433 00:17:22,167 --> 00:17:24,210 - No. - [laughter] 434 00:17:24,419 --> 00:17:26,212 - Who hasn't? - Gone all the way? What are we? 435 00:17:27,922 --> 00:17:29,674 You guys are dumb as fuck if you think 436 00:17:29,841 --> 00:17:31,134 you're going to sit here and tell us 437 00:17:31,301 --> 00:17:33,178 that y'all have not had sex. 438 00:17:34,304 --> 00:17:35,513 We're not fucking. 439 00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:38,558 I feel like Salley would tell us if they had. 440 00:17:39,684 --> 00:17:41,436 I feel like she wants to tell us. 441 00:17:41,561 --> 00:17:43,646 I'm not saying anything. 442 00:17:43,772 --> 00:17:45,023 Listen. 443 00:17:45,148 --> 00:17:47,067 Salley, have you and Austen been intimate? 444 00:17:50,987 --> 00:17:53,114 - Austen? - Salley? 445 00:17:53,281 --> 00:17:55,575 - Help me out. - I don't need to help you out. 446 00:17:55,742 --> 00:17:57,535 - He's done enough. - Making out is intimate. 447 00:17:57,660 --> 00:18:00,914 - Making out is big. - We've done a bit more. 448 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:02,457 I don't know, like, I don't know why it’s so-- 449 00:18:02,582 --> 00:18:05,043 I mean, y'all, we are not in sex ed. 450 00:18:05,251 --> 00:18:08,421 Guys, we're not doing this like big thing 451 00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:10,173 in secret that you think that you know we are. 452 00:18:10,382 --> 00:18:11,966 It's just, like, nothing fucking happening. 453 00:18:12,175 --> 00:18:14,219 I don't understand why you're being weird about it. 454 00:18:14,427 --> 00:18:17,681 - You didn't cheat on Audrey. - No. I set a clear boundary. 455 00:18:17,889 --> 00:18:19,474 I'm just like, we're not going to do this because this is, 456 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:20,975 - like, very-- - He did. 457 00:18:21,101 --> 00:18:24,771 It felt very disrespectful to Audrey, right? 458 00:18:24,896 --> 00:18:27,273 I know, but we're now eight months away from Audrey. 459 00:18:27,482 --> 00:18:29,401 - Yes. - I know, I know, but like... 460 00:18:29,526 --> 00:18:31,277 Like, there's nothing to be ashamed about. 461 00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:32,904 - No, there's nothing. - You're both single. 462 00:18:33,113 --> 00:18:35,573 I don't understand the reason to not say it. 463 00:18:35,782 --> 00:18:37,325 Fucking. 464 00:18:38,243 --> 00:18:39,994 There has been more than kissing. 465 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:41,830 - Okay. - Yeah, fucking. 466 00:18:42,539 --> 00:18:43,915 Stop lying. 467 00:18:45,083 --> 00:18:47,544 I'm trying to be more of a lady, damn it. 468 00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:49,462 Okay, but if you did sleep together, 469 00:18:49,671 --> 00:18:51,297 - why would that be bad? - It's not bad. 470 00:18:51,506 --> 00:18:53,258 - It's not bad. - I don't think it's a big deal. 471 00:18:53,425 --> 00:18:55,510 But, like, I have thought that it was a big deal. 472 00:18:55,719 --> 00:18:57,345 - How about that? - I think Salley had just said 473 00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:59,014 - you guys... - So you're embarrassed. 474 00:18:59,139 --> 00:19:01,182 - I'm not embarrassed. - You're embarrassed of me? 475 00:19:01,307 --> 00:19:03,351 - No. - Well, you're red as a beet. 476 00:19:05,812 --> 00:19:08,023 - Uh-oh. - fuck y'all. 477 00:19:09,607 --> 00:19:10,900 - Like, fuck y'all. - No, fuck you 478 00:19:11,109 --> 00:19:12,694 because you're lying. 479 00:19:16,072 --> 00:19:17,449 - Coming up... - Everyone here 480 00:19:17,615 --> 00:19:19,409 has a traumatizing story with Craig. 481 00:19:19,617 --> 00:19:21,202 Okay, guys. 482 00:19:21,327 --> 00:19:22,954 You yelled at me off camera in front of my mother. 483 00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:24,497 Ooh... 484 00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:29,961 Well, Salley, have you and Austen been intimate? 485 00:19:30,712 --> 00:19:32,505 I think Salley had just said you guys had done more. 486 00:19:32,672 --> 00:19:34,257 So you're embarrassed. 487 00:19:34,424 --> 00:19:35,925 - I'm not embarrassed. No. - You're embarrassed of me? 488 00:19:36,051 --> 00:19:39,054 - No. - Well, you're red as a beet. 489 00:19:39,179 --> 00:19:41,639 - Uh-oh. - fuck y'all. 490 00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:43,558 - Like, fuck y'all. - No, fuck you 491 00:19:43,683 --> 00:19:44,893 because you're lying. 492 00:19:45,810 --> 00:19:47,645 Look, I'm not, okay? 493 00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:49,856 - [chuckles] - We're not fucking. 494 00:19:50,023 --> 00:19:51,941 But Salley's giving me something totally different 495 00:19:52,108 --> 00:19:54,277 than you're giving me just with her eyes, so... 496 00:19:54,444 --> 00:19:56,029 She's obsessed with Austen. That's why 497 00:19:56,237 --> 00:19:57,906 - she's giving him googly eyes. - I'm not obsessed. 498 00:19:58,073 --> 00:19:59,699 In a cute way. That's why I said googly eyes. 499 00:19:59,824 --> 00:20:02,869 In a cute way, yes. In a cute way. A cute obsession. 500 00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:05,580 Like, I've gone out with Austen and, like, 501 00:20:05,747 --> 00:20:07,374 I have seen you talk to other girls 502 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:09,000 and, like, leave with other girls. 503 00:20:09,167 --> 00:20:10,835 And I totally am fine with it. 504 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,962 Uh, I feel like you get upset about it. 505 00:20:13,129 --> 00:20:14,923 No, I don't love it, but I'm not, like, 506 00:20:15,048 --> 00:20:17,550 banging on his door, like, why are you with another bitch? 507 00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:20,720 Madison. Why are they lying? 508 00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:22,847 - [indistinct chatter] - It's not a big deal. 509 00:20:22,972 --> 00:20:25,016 I do my thing, and Salley does her thing, 510 00:20:25,183 --> 00:20:26,685 and that's just the way that I like it. 511 00:20:26,851 --> 00:20:28,186 And sometimes we have sleepovers. 512 00:20:28,311 --> 00:20:29,270 - Sometimes you do it together? - Yeah. 513 00:20:29,437 --> 00:20:31,523 Okay, uh, Salley, 514 00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:33,358 it was very sweet seeing you 515 00:20:33,525 --> 00:20:35,026 - with your niece. - Oh. 516 00:20:35,193 --> 00:20:36,695 God, can I keep her? 517 00:20:36,861 --> 00:20:39,572 Can I keep you, little baby? 518 00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:41,282 I will bring her in your room tonight. 519 00:20:41,449 --> 00:20:42,701 She's sleeping with me. 520 00:20:42,867 --> 00:20:44,411 You want the 11:00 to 6:00 shift? 521 00:20:44,619 --> 00:20:45,870 I've had the night shift all day. 522 00:20:46,037 --> 00:20:48,123 You got the night shift? All right. 523 00:20:48,289 --> 00:20:50,959 I'm usually up until 4:00 a.m. anyway, so it's okay. 524 00:20:51,751 --> 00:20:53,461 Seems like all this got you thinking about 525 00:20:53,628 --> 00:20:55,380 - starting your own family... - Yeah, I mean, 526 00:20:55,505 --> 00:20:57,132 - I've never not been-- - ...with Austen. 527 00:20:57,298 --> 00:20:58,967 [laughter] 528 00:20:59,092 --> 00:21:01,094 I've never not been thinking about starting my own family. 529 00:21:01,219 --> 00:21:02,929 It's just about, you know, finding the right guy, 530 00:21:03,096 --> 00:21:06,057 and obviously I have problems doing that. 531 00:21:06,224 --> 00:21:08,309 So your therapist told you, 532 00:21:08,476 --> 00:21:10,061 if you want to be a wife, act like a wife. 533 00:21:10,270 --> 00:21:12,397 Your response was, "Why the fuck would I act 534 00:21:12,564 --> 00:21:14,399 "like a wife if I'm not a wife?" 535 00:21:14,566 --> 00:21:16,067 - Exactly. - Madison, does Salley 536 00:21:16,234 --> 00:21:18,153 need to act like a wife to become a wife? 537 00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:20,363 - Yes. - Wow. 538 00:21:20,530 --> 00:21:21,948 - Really? - Yeah. 539 00:21:22,115 --> 00:21:23,742 To her credit, she said she was an awesome fiancé. 540 00:21:23,908 --> 00:21:26,119 I would act like a wife if I'm in a relationship. 541 00:21:26,286 --> 00:21:28,163 Like, I'm a very good girlfriend. 542 00:21:28,329 --> 00:21:31,499 Well, okay, I'm just basing this off of conversations 543 00:21:31,666 --> 00:21:35,587 that Austen and I have had, and he even said, 544 00:21:35,754 --> 00:21:37,839 if you were a little more tamed down 545 00:21:38,006 --> 00:21:40,592 and didn't run the streets, that he would look at you 546 00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:44,012 in a different light than just a hookup. 547 00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:47,849 It's not like I'm out there hooking up with people. 548 00:21:48,016 --> 00:21:49,476 - I'm having a fun. - I didn't mean 549 00:21:49,601 --> 00:21:51,061 running the streets like that, there's more like, 550 00:21:51,227 --> 00:21:52,896 you are a bar rat. 551 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,898 But that's because I'm single. 552 00:21:55,023 --> 00:21:56,399 Did you not have this conversation 553 00:21:56,566 --> 00:21:58,485 - with me about Salley? - Yes. 554 00:21:58,651 --> 00:22:00,153 Because Salley and I also have a conversation. 555 00:22:00,278 --> 00:22:01,404 She's like, "I don't understand. Like, I like Austen. 556 00:22:01,571 --> 00:22:02,822 "Why is he not liking me?" 557 00:22:02,989 --> 00:22:05,408 But like, an accumulation of like... 558 00:22:05,575 --> 00:22:07,077 [stammering] 559 00:22:07,285 --> 00:22:08,953 - she's single, she's hot... - Get it out, Austen. 560 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:10,830 ...she wants to run around and do her thing, and she can. 561 00:22:10,997 --> 00:22:12,624 I don't go out when I'm in a relationship. 562 00:22:12,749 --> 00:22:15,001 - Okay. - I'm single. How the fuck... 563 00:22:15,126 --> 00:22:16,419 - No, Madison's saying... - why isn't she allowed 564 00:22:16,586 --> 00:22:18,296 - to do that? - She is. 565 00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:21,174 But he's saying seven days a week wasn't appealing to him. 566 00:22:21,341 --> 00:22:23,927 When you don't see me Monday to Friday, motherfucker, 567 00:22:24,052 --> 00:22:25,637 cooking my dinners at my house. 568 00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:27,222 That is not happening. 569 00:22:27,389 --> 00:22:29,391 No, because he only calls on Sundays. 570 00:22:29,557 --> 00:22:31,601 - Yes, it is. - Are you still working? 571 00:22:31,768 --> 00:22:33,436 - I am. - She is a working girl. 572 00:22:33,603 --> 00:22:35,188 - Serious. - No, I know. 573 00:22:35,313 --> 00:22:38,817 But like, you're out three, four nights a week, minimum. 574 00:22:38,983 --> 00:22:40,527 Molly is nodding her head yes. 575 00:22:40,694 --> 00:22:42,904 Well, I mean, you do go out a lot. 576 00:22:43,113 --> 00:22:45,782 Go out and have fun and do your thing. 577 00:22:45,907 --> 00:22:47,325 And sleep with, you know, whomever. 578 00:22:47,492 --> 00:22:49,202 - That's not what I do. - I don't care. 579 00:22:49,369 --> 00:22:51,663 But there is a body count of a lot of people 580 00:22:51,871 --> 00:22:53,915 - that like, I know. - Not the body count. 581 00:22:54,082 --> 00:22:55,834 Well, I mean, excuse me, I can start 582 00:22:56,001 --> 00:22:57,293 with the body count on you. 583 00:22:57,460 --> 00:22:59,421 - Sure. Okay. - Okay. 584 00:22:59,587 --> 00:23:01,548 Your Bravo body count is not small. 585 00:23:01,715 --> 00:23:04,050 I'm not going to be, like, you know, bullied into, 586 00:23:04,217 --> 00:23:06,011 like, wanting to date Salley, like, this is not happening. 587 00:23:06,136 --> 00:23:07,470 I'm not bullying you into wanting to Sa-- 588 00:23:07,637 --> 00:23:09,889 I'm just saying that Salley is allowed 589 00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:11,391 to do whatever Salley wants to do. 590 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:12,726 And she calls me and tells me. 591 00:23:12,934 --> 00:23:14,936 And I'm like, you know, "Go on, girl." 592 00:23:15,061 --> 00:23:17,022 - Okay. Okay. - All good. 593 00:23:17,188 --> 00:23:18,815 - All good. - Stay fuck buddies. 594 00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:20,650 - I-- - Rod, shut the fuck up. 595 00:23:20,817 --> 00:23:22,652 But to complete the question, 596 00:23:22,777 --> 00:23:25,030 the girl that you are looking for, 597 00:23:25,196 --> 00:23:27,449 is it someone that's living a very single life, 598 00:23:27,615 --> 00:23:29,242 which we're all saying is fine, or are you going to 599 00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:31,327 try to find someone that's like, staying in? 600 00:23:31,494 --> 00:23:34,122 - He's not looking for anybody. - Yeah, I'm not. 601 00:23:34,289 --> 00:23:36,207 - Right. - She has a great job. 602 00:23:36,332 --> 00:23:38,001 - Yeah. - She's the catch of a lifetime. 603 00:23:38,126 --> 00:23:40,003 - I like the... -I have a great job. 604 00:23:40,211 --> 00:23:43,214 So once again, "Austen, date Salley or fuck off." 605 00:23:43,423 --> 00:23:45,425 No one's asked me to date me. 606 00:23:45,592 --> 00:23:46,968 I don't even know if I want to date. 607 00:23:47,093 --> 00:23:48,762 Words out of my mouth. 608 00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:52,307 I told Austen if he made Salley his girlfriend, 609 00:23:52,474 --> 00:23:54,601 that she would be the most loyal girlfriend he's had. 610 00:23:54,768 --> 00:23:56,269 - Ever. Ever. - Without question. 611 00:23:56,436 --> 00:23:58,396 I'll do your laundry. I'll cook you food. 612 00:23:58,521 --> 00:24:00,273 - Whoa. - I'm a really good girlfriend. 613 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,442 I probably do too much for my man. 614 00:24:02,609 --> 00:24:04,319 Do you like dating older gay guys? 615 00:24:04,486 --> 00:24:06,112 [laughter] 616 00:24:06,321 --> 00:24:08,156 Do we get a break to go to the restroom or anything? 617 00:24:08,323 --> 00:24:10,367 Control room, can we have a pee break? 618 00:24:10,492 --> 00:24:12,243 - And some water? - Yeah, water. 619 00:24:12,369 --> 00:24:14,496 Okay, yes, five. We're gonna take a break. 620 00:24:14,662 --> 00:24:16,623 - We'll be right back. - I need a beer. 621 00:24:16,790 --> 00:24:18,041 A beer. 622 00:24:18,583 --> 00:24:21,836 Up next, did Audrey ever want to confront Salley? 623 00:24:22,045 --> 00:24:23,630 - Yes. - Really? 624 00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:31,513 All right guys, I'm gonna send it to Andy 625 00:24:31,513 --> 00:24:33,181 - here in a second. - What's your bracelet? 626 00:24:34,391 --> 00:24:36,184 This is the Greek evil eye that was supposed to 627 00:24:36,351 --> 00:24:37,977 prevent negative energy from coming my way. 628 00:24:38,186 --> 00:24:39,729 And then I wore an empath spray 629 00:24:39,896 --> 00:24:41,815 that a magician made me in Nashville. 630 00:24:42,857 --> 00:24:44,859 Because I give so much of my energy out, 631 00:24:45,026 --> 00:24:48,029 he was worried that I would absorb negative energy. 632 00:24:48,196 --> 00:24:52,909 Craig, a magician in Nashville gave you empath spray? 633 00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:55,495 You should spray that in your mouth because that's crazy. 634 00:24:56,413 --> 00:24:58,623 Stand by, I'm about to count Andy it in. 635 00:24:58,790 --> 00:25:01,584 - Three, two... - Welcome back. 636 00:25:01,751 --> 00:25:04,004 Well, the thing that shocked fans more 637 00:25:04,212 --> 00:25:07,298 than Austen's slow motion breakup with Audrey 638 00:25:07,465 --> 00:25:08,967 might have been his decision 639 00:25:09,134 --> 00:25:12,512 to become a devoted cat dad this season. 640 00:25:12,721 --> 00:25:14,472 - [Austen meows] - [kittens meow] 641 00:25:14,681 --> 00:25:16,599 [Austen chuckles] Oh, my God. 642 00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:18,601 My heart melts every time. 643 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:21,438 Here's your favorite thing. Watching me scoop your poop. 644 00:25:21,563 --> 00:25:23,273 [meows] 645 00:25:23,481 --> 00:25:25,984 Pipe. There you are. 646 00:25:26,151 --> 00:25:29,320 Do what you were purposed to do. 647 00:25:29,487 --> 00:25:31,489 Be emotional support for me. 648 00:25:32,115 --> 00:25:33,491 How are Piper and Martini? 649 00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:35,452 Absolutely perfect creatures. 650 00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:37,287 - Piper's getting a little-- - You said that you struggle 651 00:25:37,454 --> 00:25:38,705 with commitment sometimes. 652 00:25:38,913 --> 00:25:41,875 Has raising two cats helped you along the way? 653 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,377 The most uncommitted animal you could have in the house? 654 00:25:44,544 --> 00:25:46,129 - No, reptiles. - Wait, wait, wait. 655 00:25:46,212 --> 00:25:47,547 What did you say, Whitner? 656 00:25:47,714 --> 00:25:49,007 He said the most noncommittal animal, 657 00:25:49,174 --> 00:25:50,550 - the cat. - That's fact, right? 658 00:25:50,717 --> 00:25:53,219 And I got cats because I can leave town... 659 00:25:53,303 --> 00:25:55,138 - And they stay with Rodrigo. - Yeah. 660 00:25:55,347 --> 00:25:57,640 You got two so that they can hang out together. 661 00:25:57,849 --> 00:25:59,893 And Craig, look man, that was good advice from you, man. 662 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:02,354 Yeah, I have a lot of cat wisdom to purvey. 663 00:26:03,021 --> 00:26:05,065 We've talked a lot about Audrey. 664 00:26:05,231 --> 00:26:08,485 Let's just dabble a little bit more. 665 00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:10,111 It seems like from the beginning of the season 666 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,572 you were questioning your relationship. 667 00:26:12,739 --> 00:26:14,491 I just feel that when she's here, 668 00:26:14,657 --> 00:26:18,244 I'm like, this is fucking good and easy. 669 00:26:18,411 --> 00:26:20,080 I'm not gonna lie, it's been easy. 670 00:26:20,163 --> 00:26:22,749 - Well, that's big. - But then I also have 671 00:26:22,957 --> 00:26:25,043 the other end of it where I feel like 672 00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:26,836 - when she's gone... - Yes. 673 00:26:27,045 --> 00:26:28,546 ...I'm like... 674 00:26:28,755 --> 00:26:31,800 is this, like, forever? 675 00:26:32,467 --> 00:26:34,761 We got a lot of viewer comments about that. 676 00:26:34,928 --> 00:26:37,180 ComfortableBuyer2902 said, "Did you notice 677 00:26:37,305 --> 00:26:38,932 "when Austen was talking about their relationship 678 00:26:39,099 --> 00:26:41,142 "he only referenced himself?" 679 00:26:41,351 --> 00:26:44,979 Uh, Jendra2 said, "Austen making her drive to him? 680 00:26:45,146 --> 00:26:47,857 "Nope, nope, and nope." 681 00:26:48,608 --> 00:26:52,112 First off, we did go back and forth often. 682 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,116 And she wanted to come to me, right? 683 00:26:56,199 --> 00:26:57,701 Because I have a house, I live alone, 684 00:26:57,867 --> 00:26:59,285 she has a roommate, so like... 685 00:26:59,369 --> 00:27:00,829 You didn't like her apartment either. 686 00:27:01,037 --> 00:27:02,664 Hated her little house. And she hated it too. 687 00:27:02,747 --> 00:27:04,541 Returning to a roommate situation is a nightmare. 688 00:27:04,666 --> 00:27:06,376 - I can understand that. - Yeah, yeah. 689 00:27:06,543 --> 00:27:08,878 Craig said you were stuck and unhappy. 690 00:27:09,004 --> 00:27:10,755 You're the only unhappy person here 691 00:27:10,922 --> 00:27:12,465 because you're living a lie. 692 00:27:12,924 --> 00:27:14,926 That's wrong. I was not unhappy. 693 00:27:15,135 --> 00:27:16,845 Do you think you just made that up? 694 00:27:17,012 --> 00:27:20,098 I just don't know where he got that info from. 695 00:27:20,265 --> 00:27:22,851 Like, Craig, you didn't have these convos 696 00:27:22,976 --> 00:27:25,270 that you made me think that we did. 697 00:27:25,395 --> 00:27:27,689 You literally thought that her name was Aubrey. 698 00:27:31,776 --> 00:27:33,820 Yeah, I only met her four times. 699 00:27:33,945 --> 00:27:36,906 So like, for you to say, like, "Austen's telling everyone 700 00:27:37,115 --> 00:27:39,367 "that he's unhappy," and Audrey and I both were like, 701 00:27:39,534 --> 00:27:41,661 - what the fuck? - No, it came from my analysis 702 00:27:41,828 --> 00:27:43,204 of the situation where he did say 703 00:27:43,371 --> 00:27:44,581 he wasn't gonna drive to Charlotte anymore, 704 00:27:44,748 --> 00:27:46,374 he didn't think it was gonna work out. 705 00:27:46,541 --> 00:27:48,626 I was just like, he feels stuck in this relationship. 706 00:27:48,793 --> 00:27:50,628 And again, that delivery, terrible, 707 00:27:50,795 --> 00:27:52,881 but no, my analysis, I stand by. 708 00:27:54,049 --> 00:27:55,925 Madison, we got a lot of response 709 00:27:56,134 --> 00:27:58,053 about your conversation with Audrey on the beach. 710 00:27:58,887 --> 00:28:02,640 So, is Craig and Salley a thing, or is it... 711 00:28:02,849 --> 00:28:05,352 It's okay. Okay, come on, come on. 712 00:28:05,518 --> 00:28:10,065 Honestly, I think Salley's got the hots for Austen. 713 00:28:10,148 --> 00:28:12,776 The lapetitfromage said, "At least she's keeping it 714 00:28:12,942 --> 00:28:14,110 "100 with Audrey." 715 00:28:14,277 --> 00:28:16,696 - I always keep it 100. - Yes, you do. 716 00:28:16,863 --> 00:28:18,573 I just felt like she was so kind, 717 00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:21,326 and I felt like she needed to know because I was like, 718 00:28:21,534 --> 00:28:23,870 "Hey, take a look around, 719 00:28:23,953 --> 00:28:27,540 "be aware, because she may take your man." 720 00:28:27,707 --> 00:28:30,043 - Oh, my God. - And, here we are. 721 00:28:31,169 --> 00:28:32,796 Oh. 722 00:28:33,004 --> 00:28:35,882 I mean, look, it was shitty, it's just shitty, you know. 723 00:28:36,091 --> 00:28:37,676 Obviously, Audrey was like, "What the fuck, 724 00:28:37,842 --> 00:28:39,344 "you know, I don't feel good about this." 725 00:28:39,552 --> 00:28:41,429 Rodrigo, you were close with Audrey. 726 00:28:41,638 --> 00:28:43,973 Did you feel like Salley put any kind of a wedge 727 00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:45,517 between Austen and Audrey? 728 00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:47,560 - Yes. - Oh, you do? 729 00:28:47,727 --> 00:28:49,729 Because, I mean, listen, you know I love you, 730 00:28:49,938 --> 00:28:51,231 but, I mean, I was like, "Girl, tone it down." 731 00:28:51,439 --> 00:28:53,608 You want to suck his dick, we get it, 732 00:28:53,775 --> 00:28:56,194 but it was just like, I felt so bad for her, 733 00:28:56,403 --> 00:28:59,280 because she was clearly very hurt. 734 00:28:59,447 --> 00:29:02,283 And I feel like obviously when looking at this season 735 00:29:02,367 --> 00:29:05,245 where we end up, she's going to be even more hurt. 736 00:29:05,412 --> 00:29:06,746 Yeah. 737 00:29:06,830 --> 00:29:07,956 Did Audrey ever want to confront Salley? 738 00:29:08,164 --> 00:29:09,916 - Yes. - Really? 739 00:29:10,125 --> 00:29:12,544 - Yes. And... - Give us those tickets. 740 00:29:13,420 --> 00:29:15,547 - I kind of stopped it. - You did? 741 00:29:15,630 --> 00:29:16,965 - Why? - And I shouldn't have, 742 00:29:17,132 --> 00:29:18,383 I shouldn't have. 743 00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:20,176 And I would have totally been open to that. 744 00:29:20,343 --> 00:29:22,220 I'm honestly shocked she didn't that night at the bar. 745 00:29:22,387 --> 00:29:23,847 Do I lose Audrey or where'd she go? 746 00:29:24,055 --> 00:29:25,640 Over there. 747 00:29:35,066 --> 00:29:37,861 I want to know what happened at that conversation. 748 00:29:38,028 --> 00:29:40,864 Yeah, I don't really remember, but now that it's being 749 00:29:41,031 --> 00:29:44,826 talked about, it for sure had to have been about Salley. 750 00:29:46,244 --> 00:29:49,622 Well, Audrey has a lot to say about this and she submitted 751 00:29:49,789 --> 00:29:52,000 a video, which we're going to play right now. 752 00:29:53,251 --> 00:29:54,627 Are you for real? 753 00:29:54,794 --> 00:29:57,464 - No. I'm just kidding. - Oh my God! 754 00:29:57,672 --> 00:30:00,050 My heart! 755 00:30:00,258 --> 00:30:01,676 Andy! Fuck! 756 00:30:01,885 --> 00:30:03,261 I was going to do the let's bring her out, 757 00:30:03,428 --> 00:30:04,596 but I've done that so many times. 758 00:30:05,096 --> 00:30:06,848 - Oh, my God. - Hold on. 759 00:30:07,891 --> 00:30:10,268 So Austen, are you still in touch with her? 760 00:30:10,477 --> 00:30:12,771 We have spoken a couple times 761 00:30:12,937 --> 00:30:15,065 and yeah, like, she's not pleased about 762 00:30:15,231 --> 00:30:18,610 - the things that she's seen-- - She's watching the show. 763 00:30:19,444 --> 00:30:22,364 She's getting sent things, but I met up with her, you know, 764 00:30:22,572 --> 00:30:24,699 when trailer got released and I was like, let's, 765 00:30:24,908 --> 00:30:28,370 you know, have, you know, like lunch and a beer. 766 00:30:28,495 --> 00:30:31,247 And we hung out and Shep was with us, 767 00:30:31,414 --> 00:30:33,708 and she came to meet up with us at the bar that night. 768 00:30:33,875 --> 00:30:36,711 And it was nice and I was just really happy 769 00:30:36,878 --> 00:30:41,007 that she was being so just, you know, cool. 770 00:30:41,174 --> 00:30:44,010 Now she's not the most pleased because she's like, 771 00:30:44,177 --> 00:30:45,720 "I've been made to look like a fool." 772 00:30:45,887 --> 00:30:47,555 Do you think she was trying to win you back that night? 773 00:30:47,722 --> 00:30:49,224 I don't think so. 774 00:30:49,391 --> 00:30:51,267 - She looks better than ever. - Yeah, no shit. 775 00:30:51,434 --> 00:30:53,144 Are you and Audrey still in touch, Rod? 776 00:30:53,311 --> 00:30:55,397 Well, I mean, after like a couple weeks ago 777 00:30:55,605 --> 00:30:57,524 after she, you know, reamed Tyler and I 778 00:30:57,691 --> 00:30:59,901 for being complicit in his bullshit, 779 00:31:00,110 --> 00:31:02,529 no offense, babe, but you know, I felt bad. 780 00:31:02,612 --> 00:31:05,198 And so both Tyler and I, you know, tried to 781 00:31:05,365 --> 00:31:06,950 like let her know, and I was like, 782 00:31:07,117 --> 00:31:08,910 "Can we just call you so we can have this conversation?" 783 00:31:09,077 --> 00:31:10,537 She was like, "I'll call you," 784 00:31:10,704 --> 00:31:12,414 and then never heard back, since she's hurt. 785 00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:15,083 At the end of the day, Audrey's gonna be 786 00:31:15,208 --> 00:31:16,793 the girl that got away for Austen. 787 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,754 - Really? - That might be true. 788 00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:23,925 And I believe that for the rest of his life. 789 00:31:24,134 --> 00:31:25,677 Wow. 790 00:31:27,762 --> 00:31:30,598 Up next... do you think Craig is a narcissist? 791 00:31:31,307 --> 00:31:32,726 Yes. 792 00:31:37,772 --> 00:31:40,775 Welcome back. Well, Salley and Austen 793 00:31:40,775 --> 00:31:43,778 may be the newest item on Southern Charm, 794 00:31:43,778 --> 00:31:46,614 but I've always said Craig and Austen 795 00:31:46,614 --> 00:31:49,117 are the greatest love story on Bravo. 796 00:31:50,577 --> 00:31:55,582 But this season an offhanded comment at Whit's Literary Party 797 00:31:55,707 --> 00:31:58,960 had Craig and Austen on different pages. 798 00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:05,216 Salley's never happy with her shots. 799 00:32:07,594 --> 00:32:09,137 Okay. 800 00:32:09,346 --> 00:32:11,139 I don't know why it bothers you what other people do. 801 00:32:11,348 --> 00:32:13,266 Just be yourself, man. I'm being myself. 802 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:15,060 I'm having late nights in my house partying 803 00:32:15,143 --> 00:32:17,228 with everyone, and it's been a blast. 804 00:32:17,395 --> 00:32:18,897 So for you to hate on fun is silly. 805 00:32:19,105 --> 00:32:21,524 Whoa, Craig has emerged. 806 00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:23,818 Craig accused you of having FOMO, 807 00:32:23,943 --> 00:32:25,862 that you were jealous of him being single. 808 00:32:25,987 --> 00:32:27,197 Do you have FOMO? 809 00:32:27,405 --> 00:32:29,240 Uh, no. No FOMO. 810 00:32:29,366 --> 00:32:30,825 I don't understand how anyone can say that 811 00:32:30,992 --> 00:32:32,827 because Austen could've come to the hot tub. 812 00:32:32,952 --> 00:32:35,080 Yeah, like, I could've. 813 00:32:35,205 --> 00:32:36,790 - Because he had a girlfriend. - Yeah. 814 00:32:36,873 --> 00:32:39,542 She wouldn't have cared. It wasn't like an orgy. 815 00:32:39,668 --> 00:32:41,252 Then why didn't you come? 816 00:32:41,378 --> 00:32:43,338 Because I didn't have FOMO. That's why. 817 00:32:43,546 --> 00:32:45,298 I didn't give a shit about the hot tub. 818 00:32:45,465 --> 00:32:47,092 - Why wasn't it like an orgy? - They wore 819 00:32:47,258 --> 00:32:48,385 their jeans in the hot tub. 820 00:32:48,593 --> 00:32:49,719 No we didn't. It was really fun. 821 00:32:49,928 --> 00:32:51,054 Why wasn't Shep in the hot tub? 822 00:32:51,221 --> 00:32:52,472 - He was. - Oh, he was. 823 00:32:52,597 --> 00:32:53,723 He was always there. 824 00:32:53,848 --> 00:32:55,350 This might shock people, but like, 825 00:32:55,558 --> 00:32:57,310 Salley and I have never been in a hot tub by ourselves. 826 00:32:57,435 --> 00:32:59,104 - Ever. - Okay. 827 00:32:59,312 --> 00:33:00,814 Like, no, but I think people think 828 00:33:00,897 --> 00:33:02,982 we were in the hot tub alone. It was always-- 829 00:33:03,191 --> 00:33:05,193 - I think you made that clear. - Oh. 830 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,029 Then why are people so confused that we didn't hook up? 831 00:33:08,196 --> 00:33:10,490 Because we were in a hot tub at four o'clock in the morning. 832 00:33:10,573 --> 00:33:12,492 - Not every time. - They were just confused that 833 00:33:12,659 --> 00:33:14,661 none of us were hooking up in the hot tub. 834 00:33:14,828 --> 00:33:17,622 Show of hands, who thinks Austen had FOMO? 835 00:33:22,043 --> 00:33:23,753 Crickets. 836 00:33:23,962 --> 00:33:27,007 I will say, last season, Austen, you felt like Craig 837 00:33:27,132 --> 00:33:28,675 wanted to stay home and hide out. 838 00:33:28,883 --> 00:33:32,012 - Yeah. - Here, he was ready to go. 839 00:33:32,137 --> 00:33:35,348 So, you had to feel kind of good about that in a way. 840 00:33:35,473 --> 00:33:37,726 It's what you were asking for all along. 841 00:33:39,185 --> 00:33:41,396 Yeah. And then, like, it turned sideways quick. 842 00:33:42,147 --> 00:33:44,941 I mean, you were basically-- the fact that you've been 843 00:33:45,150 --> 00:33:47,861 hanging with the girls in your hot tub is bullshit. 844 00:33:48,069 --> 00:33:49,404 Were you trying to provoke him? 845 00:33:49,612 --> 00:33:51,573 I thought it was a gentle ribbing. 846 00:33:51,698 --> 00:33:53,033 It was a poke. 847 00:33:53,241 --> 00:33:55,035 Okay, but poking someone until they break down 848 00:33:55,243 --> 00:33:56,619 is called manipulation. 849 00:33:56,828 --> 00:33:59,497 That is not what manipulation is. 850 00:33:59,622 --> 00:34:01,207 That's just having an explosive temper. 851 00:34:01,332 --> 00:34:04,127 Poking someone and poking someone and needling them 852 00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:05,670 until they freak out is, like, 853 00:34:05,795 --> 00:34:07,672 that's such a weird thing to do to someone. 854 00:34:08,298 --> 00:34:10,342 Craig, I'd never know which version of you 855 00:34:10,467 --> 00:34:12,010 was going to show up, and that's the problem. 856 00:34:12,677 --> 00:34:15,597 I don't know if it's Craig that loves to laugh it all off 857 00:34:15,722 --> 00:34:17,265 and smile and be Craig-y, 858 00:34:17,390 --> 00:34:19,351 or if it's going to be the Craig that I saw there. 859 00:34:19,517 --> 00:34:21,269 Austen, you revealed that you had 860 00:34:21,478 --> 00:34:23,563 a bigger issue with Craig, which had been on your mind. 861 00:34:23,772 --> 00:34:25,899 - I feel manipulated. - Why? 862 00:34:26,107 --> 00:34:28,401 Okay, look, last year, you came to me 863 00:34:28,568 --> 00:34:31,196 and we had this very serious conversation. 864 00:34:31,321 --> 00:34:33,823 And you were like, I have an addiction problem. 865 00:34:34,032 --> 00:34:36,659 I just want you to loosen the reins a little bit. 866 00:34:36,868 --> 00:34:39,621 I can't because I don't have any leash on myself. 867 00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:41,706 That's any addict. 868 00:34:41,873 --> 00:34:45,543 Now, you're, like, Mr. Shot King. 869 00:34:46,252 --> 00:34:50,006 You accused him of manipulating that conversation. 870 00:34:50,173 --> 00:34:52,342 What did you mean by that? 871 00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:54,594 Yeah, the point that I was trying to get across was, 872 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,014 Craig and I were going to sit down and talk about 873 00:34:58,139 --> 00:34:59,432 - a whole bunch of stuff. - Yes. 874 00:34:59,641 --> 00:35:02,977 And then it all turned into Craig's drinking. 875 00:35:03,103 --> 00:35:05,271 And you know what? I was like, "Fine, nothing else matters 876 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,440 "because Craig is choosing to confide in me. 877 00:35:07,565 --> 00:35:09,567 "I feel like we haven't had this sort of talk." 878 00:35:09,776 --> 00:35:11,528 Then he chose to open up to me and I was like, 879 00:35:11,736 --> 00:35:13,154 "Oh, man, that's beautiful." 880 00:35:13,363 --> 00:35:15,115 And not going to lie, man, off camera, 881 00:35:15,281 --> 00:35:17,701 he was asking my producers and shit, like, 882 00:35:17,826 --> 00:35:19,494 "Hey, man, did you cry at that? 883 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,622 "Wasn't that..." I was like, "Dude, what the fuck? 884 00:35:22,747 --> 00:35:25,000 That is minimizing everything that I think that went on. 885 00:35:25,125 --> 00:35:27,085 I only said that because I was so vulnerable 886 00:35:27,210 --> 00:35:29,337 and I was freaking out of how embarrassed 887 00:35:29,504 --> 00:35:30,880 and that it would be thrown in my face. 888 00:35:31,089 --> 00:35:32,757 Eventually, it did. 889 00:35:32,924 --> 00:35:34,300 Okay, then we moved on from that. 890 00:35:34,467 --> 00:35:37,721 We moved on from that and I still thought, 891 00:35:37,846 --> 00:35:39,514 I was like, "Okay, well here we are," 892 00:35:39,723 --> 00:35:41,391 and drinking is taking place a whole lot, 893 00:35:41,474 --> 00:35:43,143 and I'm not the drinking police. 894 00:35:43,268 --> 00:35:45,520 I don't fucking care if Craig drinks, I promise you. 895 00:35:46,062 --> 00:35:47,897 It was just like, so like, 896 00:35:48,023 --> 00:35:50,525 "Wait, how are you gonna say this to me?" 897 00:35:50,734 --> 00:35:54,696 - That was a year later. - And now, here we are. 898 00:35:56,114 --> 00:36:00,452 Shep, what was your response to Austen feeling manipulated 899 00:36:00,577 --> 00:36:03,997 by Craig relating to his alcohol confession? 900 00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:05,498 Well... 901 00:36:05,707 --> 00:36:07,500 You called me right after the dinner 902 00:36:07,709 --> 00:36:09,419 to let me know everything that happened 903 00:36:09,586 --> 00:36:12,714 because you're my gossip girl to let me know that you thought 904 00:36:12,839 --> 00:36:15,383 - Austen was way out of line. - He was wrong-headed on that 905 00:36:15,550 --> 00:36:18,720 because he was being completely naked and vulnerable 906 00:36:18,887 --> 00:36:20,555 and I see where Austen's saying that, 907 00:36:20,764 --> 00:36:23,475 but at the same time, I think there's other arguments 908 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,643 that Austen could've employed in that. 909 00:36:26,478 --> 00:36:30,148 Austen, I was surprised by the level of acrimony. 910 00:36:30,357 --> 00:36:31,733 You said you hate Craig. 911 00:36:31,858 --> 00:36:34,235 Austen hates me because he's-- 912 00:36:34,444 --> 00:36:35,779 Yes, I do fucking hate you. 913 00:36:35,987 --> 00:36:37,530 Apologize to Craig. 914 00:36:37,739 --> 00:36:38,990 He's not gonna apologize to me. 915 00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:41,409 Apologize to Craig. Apologize now. 916 00:36:41,534 --> 00:36:43,036 My jaw was on the damn table. 917 00:36:43,203 --> 00:36:45,372 I've never heard this sort of vitriol before. 918 00:36:45,497 --> 00:36:47,957 Do you hate him? 919 00:36:48,166 --> 00:36:49,584 Yeah, sometimes I do fucking hate Craig. 920 00:36:51,378 --> 00:36:53,338 That's just so harsh. 921 00:36:53,546 --> 00:36:56,091 And it felt really good to just like say it. 922 00:36:57,425 --> 00:37:00,136 And I wanted to see if that was gonna hit you or affect you 923 00:37:00,303 --> 00:37:02,055 or if you wanted to change 924 00:37:02,263 --> 00:37:03,890 in any sort of way, shape, or form. 925 00:37:04,015 --> 00:37:05,350 - No. - And what was his reaction? 926 00:37:05,475 --> 00:37:06,768 It had the opposite effect. 927 00:37:06,935 --> 00:37:07,936 He was like, "I don't fucking care." 928 00:37:08,061 --> 00:37:09,854 No, it's not, I said, 929 00:37:09,979 --> 00:37:12,273 "Clearly, this isn't a friendship anymore." 930 00:37:14,984 --> 00:37:18,196 Like, to me, if you say "hate," that's the end. 931 00:37:26,287 --> 00:37:27,789 "Clearly, this isn't a friendship anymore." 932 00:37:28,873 --> 00:37:31,876 To me, if you say "hate," that's the end. 933 00:37:32,085 --> 00:37:34,587 By the way, seeing like I hate you, 934 00:37:34,754 --> 00:37:37,132 it's like not saying the shit that you said to me, 935 00:37:37,257 --> 00:37:39,759 Craig, which is like unforgivable shit in my opinion. 936 00:37:39,968 --> 00:37:42,095 Are you gonna acknowledge that your life looks 937 00:37:42,262 --> 00:37:43,596 the same that it did five years ago? 938 00:37:46,349 --> 00:37:48,768 I just cannot believe that you're actually saying that. 939 00:37:48,893 --> 00:37:50,103 Like, you haven't built anything. 940 00:37:50,228 --> 00:37:51,813 What have you built? 941 00:37:52,564 --> 00:37:54,858 That's, like, not a friend thing to say at all, by the way. 942 00:37:55,066 --> 00:37:57,610 That's really rough. That's, that's browbeating. 943 00:37:57,777 --> 00:38:00,905 That's, that's, um, lesser-than treatment. 944 00:38:01,114 --> 00:38:03,825 Dude, you don't give a fuck about me. 945 00:38:03,950 --> 00:38:06,703 Like, you just wanna say nasty-ass things like that, 946 00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:08,663 which you know are scathing. 947 00:38:08,872 --> 00:38:11,916 And I've gotten to such a boiling point, I cannot do this. 948 00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:15,211 I cannot go in a circle of bullshit. 949 00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:19,007 Maybe we just need to quit it, fucking, like, now. 950 00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:23,845 Craig, do you stand by saying that Austen 951 00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:25,722 has nothing to show for his last five years? 952 00:38:25,847 --> 00:38:27,474 No, it was retaliatory. 953 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,768 Like, we were arguing at the table, and I... 954 00:38:29,976 --> 00:38:31,853 Do you wanna apologize for saying that? 955 00:38:33,021 --> 00:38:35,482 Yeah, I am sorry for that, but I, I was mad 956 00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:37,817 that he kept attacking me, and, like, 957 00:38:37,984 --> 00:38:39,736 having a problem with everything that I did. 958 00:38:39,903 --> 00:38:41,654 Craig, it's hard for you to say I'm sorry. 959 00:38:41,780 --> 00:38:43,239 It's very hard. 960 00:38:43,365 --> 00:38:45,617 Trying to get apologies or things out of you, 961 00:38:45,825 --> 00:38:47,327 like, is like talking over the wall. 962 00:38:47,452 --> 00:38:49,245 Yeah, okay. I just disagree. 963 00:38:49,371 --> 00:38:50,538 Which is like, you don't see it. 964 00:38:51,247 --> 00:38:52,582 Charley, what do you think? 965 00:38:52,749 --> 00:38:54,209 After, like, Whit's party, 966 00:38:54,751 --> 00:38:57,170 I was, like, like, proud of Craig, like, 967 00:38:57,379 --> 00:38:59,047 for how he apologized, and whenever... 968 00:38:59,255 --> 00:39:00,799 What was the apology? What do you mean? 969 00:39:01,007 --> 00:39:02,592 I apologized to you right after. 970 00:39:02,759 --> 00:39:04,344 - On camera. - At Whit's? 971 00:39:04,469 --> 00:39:06,638 - Yes, at the table. - I don't remember this, Craig. 972 00:39:06,846 --> 00:39:08,098 I sat you down and apologized. 973 00:39:08,223 --> 00:39:10,934 Wild claim. Wild claim. 974 00:39:11,059 --> 00:39:13,311 It was so unfair. They all were there. 975 00:39:13,436 --> 00:39:15,355 Charley's sitting here. Charley's not making this up. 976 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,065 They're gonna show it right now. 977 00:39:17,232 --> 00:39:18,942 I just don't remember it. I don't remember it at all. 978 00:39:19,067 --> 00:39:20,402 - Let's flash to it. - Thank you. 979 00:39:20,527 --> 00:39:21,820 At the end of the day, 980 00:39:21,986 --> 00:39:23,029 I shouldn't have said this stuff. 981 00:39:23,154 --> 00:39:24,656 It happened, and I'm sorry. 982 00:39:24,864 --> 00:39:27,075 But, like, you just fucking triggered me. 983 00:39:28,118 --> 00:39:31,663 "But," and then you say, "But, you did trigger me." 984 00:39:31,788 --> 00:39:33,456 Yeah, anything before "but" doesn't count. 985 00:39:33,581 --> 00:39:34,916 Well, how many times are you gonna attack me 986 00:39:35,125 --> 00:39:36,334 - when we're filming? - I don't know, 987 00:39:36,543 --> 00:39:37,877 but I don't-- I would never say that 988 00:39:38,086 --> 00:39:41,256 kind of shit when my back is against the wall. 989 00:39:41,464 --> 00:39:44,926 Everyone here has a traumatizing story with Craig. 990 00:39:45,051 --> 00:39:46,553 Yeah, not outside of filming. 991 00:39:47,345 --> 00:39:48,930 Put me in a pressure cooker long enough. 992 00:39:49,139 --> 00:39:52,100 That's not true, you yelled at her outside of filming. 993 00:39:52,225 --> 00:39:53,727 - She cried. - I didn't yell at her. 994 00:39:53,893 --> 00:39:56,312 Apparently, according to Charley and Salley, 995 00:39:56,479 --> 00:39:57,939 you screamed at her. 996 00:39:58,064 --> 00:40:00,483 You yelled at me off camera in front of my mother. 997 00:40:00,608 --> 00:40:03,028 - Ooh. - Okay, guys. 998 00:40:03,153 --> 00:40:04,654 You were there. Y'all were all there. 999 00:40:04,821 --> 00:40:07,032 - Um, yeah, I was there. - No, I wasn't, I said I-- 1000 00:40:07,157 --> 00:40:08,950 They were there when you yelled at her. 1001 00:40:09,075 --> 00:40:10,702 I didn't yell at her. 1002 00:40:10,910 --> 00:40:13,997 - You made her cry! - That's different than yelling. 1003 00:40:14,205 --> 00:40:16,624 - What do you mean? - ...yelled to make her cry! 1004 00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:18,460 - Charley was there. - I called her out about two-- 1005 00:40:18,585 --> 00:40:20,795 Whenever you called her out, you do it in a very... 1006 00:40:21,004 --> 00:40:22,964 - Aggressive way. - Okay, guys. 1007 00:40:23,173 --> 00:40:25,884 Do you know how many bad moments everyone here has? 1008 00:40:26,009 --> 00:40:28,845 You're saying that you never yell at them 1009 00:40:29,054 --> 00:40:30,805 except if you're on camera, 1010 00:40:30,930 --> 00:40:34,225 and they're all saying that that is not a representation. 1011 00:40:34,351 --> 00:40:35,977 Okay. 1012 00:40:36,186 --> 00:40:38,646 Whit, your analysis of Craig and Austen's relationship 1013 00:40:38,772 --> 00:40:40,565 got a lot of comments from viewers. 1014 00:40:40,690 --> 00:40:43,360 Scarletfire77 said, "When Whitner said, 1015 00:40:43,568 --> 00:40:47,405 'Austen has a victim complex and Craig is a narcissist,' 1016 00:40:47,614 --> 00:40:50,075 "it was like, 'Wow, he just summarized 1017 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,912 "'the entire relationship in one sentence.'" 1018 00:40:54,537 --> 00:40:56,873 Whit, how were you able to get your head around 1019 00:40:57,082 --> 00:40:59,042 that relationship so quickly? 1020 00:40:59,167 --> 00:41:01,753 Um, I have eyes and ears. 1021 00:41:01,961 --> 00:41:04,506 Craig did Whit sum up your friendship 1022 00:41:04,673 --> 00:41:06,257 accurately with Austen? 1023 00:41:06,424 --> 00:41:09,177 No, narcissists are incapable of having empathy, 1024 00:41:09,344 --> 00:41:11,471 and literally, as an empath, it would be 1025 00:41:11,638 --> 00:41:13,431 impossible for me to be a narcissist. 1026 00:41:13,598 --> 00:41:16,101 I do a lot of things wrong, but I'm far from a narcissist. 1027 00:41:16,226 --> 00:41:17,727 I mean, I'm only going off of what I see. 1028 00:41:17,936 --> 00:41:19,604 You scream at people in the bar. 1029 00:41:19,813 --> 00:41:21,106 Whit, it's your first season. 1030 00:41:21,272 --> 00:41:22,607 You don't know anything about this world. 1031 00:41:22,774 --> 00:41:23,983 Please stop. 1032 00:41:25,110 --> 00:41:28,113 Um, do you think Craig is a narcissist? 1033 00:41:28,321 --> 00:41:31,157 Yes. This year, cemented it for me. 1034 00:41:31,282 --> 00:41:34,119 I was like, "This is some textbook narcissist shit." 1035 00:41:35,286 --> 00:41:37,455 That's the most insulting... 1036 00:41:37,664 --> 00:41:39,165 So you don't think I'm empathetic? 1037 00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:40,291 - No. - It's really mean 1038 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:42,210 to say that about someone. 1039 00:41:42,377 --> 00:41:44,504 Calling someone a narcissist means they're incapable of 1040 00:41:44,629 --> 00:41:46,506 showing empathy, and everything they do is for show. 1041 00:41:46,631 --> 00:41:48,049 If that's how you believe about me, 1042 00:41:48,216 --> 00:41:49,259 then you shouldn't be friends with me. 1043 00:41:49,467 --> 00:41:51,511 And like, here we are again, Craig. 1044 00:41:51,636 --> 00:41:53,471 You're like, "Then you shouldn't be friends with me." 1045 00:41:53,638 --> 00:41:55,890 Dude, you're such a fucking dickhead. 1046 00:41:57,308 --> 00:42:00,687 Well, it seems like there's a lot more to discuss. 1047 00:42:00,812 --> 00:42:02,897 We're gonna leave it there for right now. 1048 00:42:03,565 --> 00:42:05,233 We'll be right back. 1049 00:42:13,950 --> 00:42:15,160 Goddamn. 1050 00:42:19,414 --> 00:42:20,915 I know. 1051 00:42:35,972 --> 00:42:38,683 [theme music plays]