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Here we are in okanagan falls!

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[cheering & applauding]

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Ok falls, british columbia in
the beautiful okanagan valley

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In the heart of bc's
wine country.

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This place is wild.

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I've never seen a place
anywhere in the country

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Quite like this.

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The rock formations,
the landscape,

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The vineyards, the lake.
You might be thinking,

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Okay, well what on earth
does ok falls not have?

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Well, for one, falls.

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[laughing]

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The falls were never very
big and due to dams and

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Irrigation, now,
they're even smaller.

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Come see the beautiful falls.
Where?

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Ok falls. Wait, beautiful
falls or okay falls?

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Okay, okay, no falls.

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[laughing]

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Just saying, if you came
here specifically for falls,

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Biggest disappointment
west of dildo.

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[laughing]

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When you grew up in a
small town in newfoundland,

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You see the people have a
sense of humour

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About hard times.

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Check, check.

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I turned that into a
career and hit the road.

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[mc] mr. Jonny harris!

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Now I'm on a mission to find
the funny in the places you

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Least expect it, canada's
struggling small towns.

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Towns that are against the
ropes, but hanging in there.

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Still laughing in the
face of adversity.

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This is okanagan falls,
british columbia.

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♪

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I had no idea there was a
place like this in canada.

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It's desert. Many refer
to it as the

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Northern tip of
the sonoran desert.

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I know technically
it's not desert. Why?

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Because such-and-such
precipitation versus

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Such-and-such annual
evaporation loss.

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And, okay, yeah,
I get it, nerd.

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[laughing]

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But to me, that just
makes it better.

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That means there's a bit
more life, the plants,

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The fruit, the vineyards,
the greenery.

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To me, a wetter desert
is a better desert.

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[laughing]

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I think you should
market it as desert lush.

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That's what they call me when
I drink too much baja rosa.

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[laughing]

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♪

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One once upon a time,
the major industries

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In okanagan falls
were fruit growing,

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Especially orchards and,
cattle ranching.

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The last few
decades have seen

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A dramatic
decline in both.

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Amidst this struggle,
I met, from halls orchard,

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Debby hall.

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[cheering & applauding]

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Debby said back in the 70s,
when her father was

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Running it, you know,
orchards were profitable.

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Dad supported a family
of five off of that farm.

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There was an abundance
of work to do,

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Constantly: Thinning,
pruning, picking,

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Helping dead plants,
there was tractor work,

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You know, mowing grass.

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Economically, what
happened with fruit?

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The prices dropped out.

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The production
costs kept rising.

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And what the farmer is
putting in his pocket

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Was getting smaller.

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Production costs have
increased exponentially

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Since then-
wages, fuel, hydro.

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The money's not there.

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When you're trying
to make a living,

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The producer is the
last one to get paid.

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I said that's the opposite
in film and television.

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[laughing]

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I'll tell you how
producers get paid.

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I'll break it down for you.

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You let me know if one of
those laser sniper dots

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Shows up on my forehead.

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[laughing]

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The dried fruit
leather factory,

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It started as just a little
mom and pop business and...

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It brought some
industry to the town.

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What happened to the
fruit leather factory?

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It got bought out by
a large corporation.

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So, they moved
that up to kelowna.

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I didn't know what
fruit leather was.

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In fact, I thought a town
that has this much cattle

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Going through, why are you
making leather out of fruit?

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[laughing]

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Fruit leather, I like
the sound of it.

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Like, could you make
a pair of pants

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Or something like that?

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Hey, is that a banana
in your pants or

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Are you just
happy to see me?

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[laughing]

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In ok falls,
you can say both.

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[laughing]

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I'm happy to see you.

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But yeah, there's
banana in my pants.

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[laughing]

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You can't help but
understand why people

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Have pulled out
the orchards...

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And pulled out the apples.

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Does it turn much
of a profit now?

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No, you can actually call it
a non-profit organization now.

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[laughing]
because I have a job.

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My husband works.

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So yeah, we all
have jobs to...

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You know, feed our own selves
and to pay our own bills.

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Her and her brother have
kept the orchards alive

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More out of a...

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A labour of love than
profit, you know.

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She said today-
well, I guess-

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Today you could feed
a family of five,

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But they'd have
to love apples.

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[laughing]

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The price that the
packing house was

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Paying the producer
for apples,

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Then, was about 30
to 32 cents a pound.

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I think currently, it's about
36 to 38 cents a pound,

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Is what the farmer is getting.

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We're getting a dollar a
pound in the apple bin.

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They opened the apple bin,
a small little stand.

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I went in there, I thought
it was very cool.

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It works entirely on
the honour system.

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You choose your fruit or
vegetable and then

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Your money goes into
a money box there.

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So, if you don't have
the right change,

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You can add a note that says,

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"I owe you $3 or I owe you $5,"
or, "I couldn't pay this time,

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I'm gonna come
pay next time."

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They don't take that
at loblaws in toronto,

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Let me tell ya.

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[laughing]

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Doesn't matter how many
cbc shows you're on.

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[laughing]

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Now, I had to watch my
behaviour because the

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Last time somebody left out
apples free to take,

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It was Halloween,
and I ended up

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Throwing toilet
paper at their house.

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[laughing]

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[cheering &
applauding]

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♪

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The beef auctions at the
stockyard may be

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A little more
rare these days,

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But that doesn't mean they
aren't also well done.

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I went to southern
interior stockyards,

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And I spoke to
tony acland.

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[cheering & applauding]

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Lovely,
look at this place.

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It's one of the oldest
in the province.

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-Is that right?
-For livestock market.

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There was a lot of
ranches in the area

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Back when I was a kid.

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And there was,
you know,

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75 to a 100 people
in here, every sale.

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Built in 1942, it's one of
the few remaining stockyards

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In the province,
and all of them have

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Taken a hit in
recent years.

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Ranching is a
tough business.

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The price of cattle has
not kept up with inflation.

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However, the expenses
of raising them has

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Kept up with inflation.

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As the ranch is diminished,

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A lot of the businesses in
town just, you know,

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Kind of packed up
and went away.

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In any market, when the stock
drops on you, it's tough.

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When livestock drops
on you, it's crushing.

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[laughing]

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When I was ten or
twelve years old,

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I had to make sure the barns
were clean, feed the horses.

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I was up at
5:30 in the morning,

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Milking the
milk cow, and...

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Doing my chores, and
then going to school.

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Tony said he grew up
a ranch kid.

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Myself, I was more italian,

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But I switched to
thousand island.

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[laughing]

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I bet ranch kids don't make
the same mistake

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That the rest of us
made growing up.

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Like a lot of us, we thought
when that little piggy went

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To market, we thought
he was going shopping.

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[laughing]

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I fell in love with
the auctioneering.

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You can hear the
auctioneers pretty much

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Anywhere in the town.

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When he heard the
auctioneers, he just loved it.

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5, 10, 15, 20, 25,
30, 35, 40, 45, 50.

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He fell in love with it,
he knew he wanted to be

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An auctioneer when he was
still in grade school.

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Now, it didn't help
in class, right,

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The teacher would tell him
that a right angle

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Has 90 degrees.

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Tony'd always want to
drive it up 92, 93...

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93, 93, do I have
94, 94?

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Do I have 94?

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And every time he drove it
up over 90 degrees,

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The teacher would say
he was being obtuse.

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[laughing]

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The livestock industry
might have fallen off,

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But has ok falls
given up?

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Hell no, this is a town that
has a habit of hopping back

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On the horse that goes way
back to the greatest canadian

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Rodeo cowboy of all time,
kenny mclean.

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[cheering & applauding]

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It was his first time
competing at the

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Canadian bronc riding
championship, in 1959.

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He won!

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Now, lots of people say,
"hey, it's not my first rodeo,"

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But for kenny at the
pro level, it was.

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[laughing]

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Tony told me that that kenny
was the only rodeo cowboy

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Ever awarded the
order of canada.

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And the best part of this
whole hollywood wild western?

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He was a member of
the okanagan nation,

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And that's no bull.

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[cheering &
applauding]

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♪

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To find out a little more
about the okanagan nation

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And how the salmon
here were dammed...

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But ultimately not doomed,
I had a chat

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With herb alex
and jenna bower.

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[cheering & applauding]

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Jenna and herb both belong
to the osoyoos indian nation,

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Which is part of
the okanagan nation.

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Jenna told me the
name of this area...

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The falls is called
[speaking osoyoos language]

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Which means little falls.

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[speaking
osoyoos language]

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-Woo!
-Yeah?

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[cheering & applauding]

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[speaking
osoyoos language]

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[speaking
osoyoos language]

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What she said.

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[laughing]

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I practiced that, so-
every syllable is a

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Sound I've never
made before.

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[laughing]

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♪

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Jenna, what are we
looking at here?

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This is the salmon chief.

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The salmon chief he took care
of the vitality of the river.

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This was a person of great
responsibility to look for

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Various environmental
indicators,

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And try to gauge how much
salmon was gonna

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Come up the river that year.

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He would let the people
know how many fish to catch,

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00:09:57,331 --> 00:09:58,763
How to disperse them.

252
00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:01,399
It also sounds like a mix
between a wildlife officer

253
00:10:01,534 --> 00:10:04,569
And my ex-girlfriend when we
were at the seafood buffet.

254
00:10:04,704 --> 00:10:06,504
[laughing]

255
00:10:06,506 --> 00:10:09,306
"don't you think you've
had enough salmon for now?

256
00:10:09,343 --> 00:10:11,709
There's other people here.

257
00:10:11,778 --> 00:10:13,578
Maybe you should leave
some for next year."

258
00:10:13,713 --> 00:10:15,380
[laughing]

259
00:10:15,515 --> 00:10:19,484
Ok falls was a
traditional fishing site.

260
00:10:19,486 --> 00:10:21,353
It had thousands of people
here for about two or

261
00:10:21,488 --> 00:10:23,487
Three weeks when the
fishing season was on.

262
00:10:23,523 --> 00:10:26,658
However, in 1915,
herb told me

263
00:10:26,793 --> 00:10:28,726
They built the
mcintyre dam.

264
00:10:28,762 --> 00:10:30,862
And this, essentially,
stopped the salmon

265
00:10:30,931 --> 00:10:33,698
From migrating up for
nearly a century.

266
00:10:33,833 --> 00:10:36,000
It was fairly abrupt,
over a couple of years.

267
00:10:36,136 --> 00:10:37,202
There was no fish.

268
00:10:37,337 --> 00:10:40,772
Over the past 70 to 80 years,
the stocks really declined.

269
00:10:40,774 --> 00:10:43,340
That used to be in the,
pretty much I've heard

270
00:10:43,377 --> 00:10:44,676
In the millions, and then
they went down to like

271
00:10:44,811 --> 00:10:46,945
10,000, 20,000 a year.
-Right.

272
00:10:46,947 --> 00:10:48,780
And that's where the
hatchery comes in.

273
00:10:48,915 --> 00:10:51,749
They started a hatchery
program, in 2014,

274
00:10:51,885 --> 00:10:53,551
To get the
numbers back up.

275
00:10:53,587 --> 00:10:56,020
You might call it artificial
"in-salmon-ation".

276
00:10:56,056 --> 00:10:57,722
[faint laughing
& groaning]

277
00:10:57,724 --> 00:10:58,923
Or not, fine.

278
00:10:58,925 --> 00:11:00,325
[laughing]

279
00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:02,994
Herb said, you know,
this program, it's working.

280
00:11:03,129 --> 00:11:05,363
I feel it's very successful.

281
00:11:05,365 --> 00:11:06,965
To toot my own horn,
yeah, it's-

282
00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:08,366
We had a great year.

283
00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:09,834
So now everything
gets stronger.

284
00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:11,569
There's more fish for
the ospreys to eat.

285
00:11:11,605 --> 00:11:13,504
The whole ecosystem
improves

286
00:11:13,540 --> 00:11:16,307
With having that kind
of baseline...

287
00:11:16,309 --> 00:11:17,709
Stock in there.

288
00:11:17,844 --> 00:11:19,978
And it was missing for years
so, we're really happy,

289
00:11:19,980 --> 00:11:21,579
And we're seeing results.

290
00:11:21,615 --> 00:11:23,581
He said this year
they, they...

291
00:11:23,617 --> 00:11:28,920
They counted up to 300,000
salmon coming up the river.

292
00:11:29,055 --> 00:11:30,388
That's the best numbers
they've had since

293
00:11:30,523 --> 00:11:32,657
They began
counting in 1938.

294
00:11:32,726 --> 00:11:35,827
[cheering &
applauding]

295
00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:38,897
♪

296
00:11:38,899 --> 00:11:41,066
So, I knew about cattle
and the orchard decline,

297
00:11:41,201 --> 00:11:43,735
But I still wanted to
get a bigger picture.

298
00:11:43,737 --> 00:11:46,771
So I did as I always do,
I jumped in my truck and

299
00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,673
Headed over to the local
astrophysical observatory.

300
00:11:49,710 --> 00:11:53,644
I dished about deep
space with tim robishaw.

301
00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:57,815
[cheering & applauding]

302
00:11:57,951 --> 00:12:00,952
Radio telescopes study
stars, galaxies,

303
00:12:00,954 --> 00:12:03,888
Quasars, pulsars,
microwaves,

304
00:12:03,924 --> 00:12:08,960
And radio light from the
beginning of the universe.

305
00:12:09,029 --> 00:12:12,764
The dominion radio
astrophysical observatory

306
00:12:12,766 --> 00:12:15,366
Opened in ok falls in 1960.

307
00:12:15,435 --> 00:12:18,970
Tell me how, the story of how
this, this place was chosen.

308
00:12:19,039 --> 00:12:21,973
The idea was to just find
a place in canada

309
00:12:21,975 --> 00:12:25,777
That was completely
surrounded by rocks,

310
00:12:25,779 --> 00:12:27,645
Really big mountains,
so that way,

311
00:12:27,647 --> 00:12:30,448
Radio waves from ok falls
and the nearby towns

312
00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:32,450
Would just come up and over,

313
00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:34,919
And they wouldn't hit the
telescopes directly.

314
00:12:34,955 --> 00:12:38,423
Ideally, you want to set
it sort of surrounded by

315
00:12:38,558 --> 00:12:40,525
Mountains in a
bowl or a basin,

316
00:12:40,527 --> 00:12:43,460
So any nearby communities,
their radio waves will

317
00:12:43,497 --> 00:12:45,630
Sort of be blocked by the
mountains and won't

318
00:12:45,699 --> 00:12:50,702
Interfere with the
26-metre parabolic dish.

319
00:12:50,704 --> 00:12:52,136
At first, I was like,
oh my god,

320
00:12:52,205 --> 00:12:53,938
You put a bowl on a dish,
not a dish on a bowl,

321
00:12:54,073 --> 00:12:55,540
I almost died.

322
00:12:55,609 --> 00:12:57,641
[laughing]

323
00:12:57,677 --> 00:12:59,611
The white lake basin here
just on the other side of the

324
00:12:59,746 --> 00:13:02,813
Hill from ok falls turned out
to be the number one place.

325
00:13:02,815 --> 00:13:04,615
But it was ranch
land at the time?

326
00:13:04,651 --> 00:13:05,717
That's right,
it was ranch land.

327
00:13:05,852 --> 00:13:08,485
-Still is ranch land.
-Still cattle?

328
00:13:08,522 --> 00:13:10,622
Oh yeah, we don't
mow the lawn, right.

329
00:13:10,757 --> 00:13:12,590
We get the, we get the
cows to do that for us.

330
00:13:12,626 --> 00:13:13,858
-No?
-Yep.

331
00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:16,427
They don't want to
use lawn mowers.

332
00:13:16,562 --> 00:13:18,062
You don't want to
use an electric one.

333
00:13:18,064 --> 00:13:21,766
And a gas one, even this-
the electric signal from

334
00:13:21,901 --> 00:13:25,102
A spark plug can
destroy their work.

335
00:13:25,104 --> 00:13:26,638
So, it's better to have...

336
00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,039
Lawn "moo-ers".

337
00:13:28,041 --> 00:13:30,308
[laughing]

338
00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:33,111
I had to ask tim,
have you seen anything?

339
00:13:33,246 --> 00:13:35,980
Has this telescope read
anything that could suggest

340
00:13:35,982 --> 00:13:39,884
That there's intelligent
life on other planets?

341
00:13:40,019 --> 00:13:42,587
Back in 2007-
there's a big

342
00:13:42,656 --> 00:13:44,789
64-metre dish in australia.

343
00:13:44,791 --> 00:13:47,892
And it, it caught a
really weird signal.

344
00:13:47,961 --> 00:13:49,994
And for the
next ten years,

345
00:13:49,996 --> 00:13:51,829
A couple dozen more of
these things we're seen.

346
00:13:51,964 --> 00:13:53,631
Is somebody sending
a beacon of energy?

347
00:13:53,667 --> 00:13:54,999
Reasonable question.

348
00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:56,934
He said he didn't
think so because...

349
00:13:57,003 --> 00:13:59,070
Anything that could
have created...

350
00:13:59,205 --> 00:14:02,674
A signal that strong
would have

351
00:14:02,676 --> 00:14:05,810
Obliterated the
planet it came from.

352
00:14:05,812 --> 00:14:08,513
So, maybe there was
intelligent life, but...

353
00:14:08,515 --> 00:14:10,415
[laughing]

354
00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:12,984
Maybe not anymore, and maybe
even not that intelligent.

355
00:14:13,119 --> 00:14:14,919
[laughing]

356
00:14:14,955 --> 00:14:16,821
The dominion radio
astrophysical observatory

357
00:14:16,956 --> 00:14:19,557
Is the only facility of
its kind in canada.

358
00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:21,893
And he was telling me that
they have something

359
00:14:22,028 --> 00:14:24,429
Called an
"open skies" policy.

360
00:14:24,564 --> 00:14:26,230
♪ [ambient]

361
00:14:26,266 --> 00:14:28,566
All of the telescopes on
site are federally funded.

362
00:14:28,701 --> 00:14:32,036
And so, if there's
any astrophysicist

363
00:14:32,105 --> 00:14:33,638
Anywhere in the world,

364
00:14:33,707 --> 00:14:37,575
Who has an idea about
how they can solve some

365
00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:39,811
Outstanding problem
in astrophysics,

366
00:14:39,946 --> 00:14:41,946
And these telescopes
will help them answer it,

367
00:14:42,081 --> 00:14:43,747
They submit a proposal.

368
00:14:43,783 --> 00:14:45,850
It's adjudicated by a panel
of astrophysicists

369
00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:47,318
All over the world.

370
00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:49,787
So, don't get cheeky,
I know it's a radio station,

371
00:14:49,856 --> 00:14:51,789
But like don't request
dark side of the moon.

372
00:14:51,791 --> 00:14:53,624
[laughing]

373
00:14:53,627 --> 00:14:55,693
[cheering &
applauding]

374
00:15:00,634 --> 00:15:07,071
♪

375
00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:09,273
Despite the challenges
in okanagan falls,

376
00:15:09,276 --> 00:15:11,943
People here tend to look at
the glass as being half full,

377
00:15:11,945 --> 00:15:14,012
And half full of
award winning wine.

378
00:15:14,147 --> 00:15:15,847
I went up to
see ya later ranch.

379
00:15:15,982 --> 00:15:18,216
I had a chat with
david saysomsack.

380
00:15:18,218 --> 00:15:23,254
[cheering & applauding]

381
00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:27,692
So, tell me how you
got interested in wine.

382
00:15:27,694 --> 00:15:30,194
I was a home wine maker
for maybe 6, 7 years.

383
00:15:30,196 --> 00:15:32,463
Found the program at
brock university, and then...

384
00:15:32,532 --> 00:15:34,365
Graduated with my degree,
and then started working

385
00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:36,234
In the wine industry
all around the world.

386
00:15:36,236 --> 00:15:37,435
That's how he
got into wine.

387
00:15:37,504 --> 00:15:38,969
How did he get
good at wine?

388
00:15:39,005 --> 00:15:40,504
Well, he put in
the time, right?

389
00:15:40,540 --> 00:15:42,240
Perspiration
and inspiration.

390
00:15:42,375 --> 00:15:45,043
And he said he,
there was years where

391
00:15:45,045 --> 00:15:47,145
He was making bad wine,

392
00:15:47,147 --> 00:15:48,546
And then he figured
it out, he got good-

393
00:15:48,681 --> 00:15:50,581
Of all things, surely wine
is something that

394
00:15:50,717 --> 00:15:52,717
Improves with time.
I find that even

395
00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:54,518
From the start of the
bottle to the end of one.

396
00:15:54,554 --> 00:15:56,186
-[laughing]
-do you know what I mean?

397
00:15:56,222 --> 00:15:58,189
The first few sips, it's like,
oh, that's okay.

398
00:15:58,191 --> 00:15:58,990
And then by the end,
you're like,

399
00:15:59,059 --> 00:16:00,391
Ah, this is delicious.

400
00:16:00,526 --> 00:16:01,726
[laughing]

401
00:16:01,728 --> 00:16:04,028
I guess it just needed a
few minutes to breathe.

402
00:16:04,164 --> 00:16:05,964
[laughing]

403
00:16:06,099 --> 00:16:09,333
David really knows his stuff,
and the complexity of wine,

404
00:16:09,402 --> 00:16:11,469
Not just winemaking,
but wine tasting.

405
00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:13,337
-Hold the stem like a pen.
-Yeah.

406
00:16:13,406 --> 00:16:15,406
Now draw little circles.

407
00:16:15,541 --> 00:16:17,207
-Ah.
-Right.

408
00:16:17,243 --> 00:16:21,512
And then so, you give
it a quick, quick smell.

409
00:16:21,548 --> 00:16:23,981
So, when we take a sip,
after the sip,

410
00:16:24,017 --> 00:16:28,219
You got to pull air in...
The wine in your mouth,

411
00:16:28,288 --> 00:16:30,554
So it hits your
olfactory nerves,

412
00:16:30,623 --> 00:16:32,222
And you'll actually be
able to taste it

413
00:16:32,258 --> 00:16:33,958
Through that slurping.

414
00:16:34,027 --> 00:16:37,161
So, he was telling me a bit
about retro nasal olfaction.

415
00:16:39,632 --> 00:16:42,066
[slurping continues]

416
00:16:49,709 --> 00:16:50,708
It sounds a bit like
you're trying to

417
00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:53,110
Annoy somebody
with a juice box.

418
00:16:53,146 --> 00:16:54,345
[slurping]

419
00:16:54,347 --> 00:16:55,313
[laughing]

420
00:16:55,448 --> 00:16:59,984
So, merlot, you're gonna
get like plums and...

421
00:17:00,053 --> 00:17:01,519
Maybe some
dark cherries.

422
00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:04,188
But we're talking about
all these flavours.

423
00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:07,124
But, none of those
ingredients are ever included.

424
00:17:07,260 --> 00:17:08,926
-Is it all-
-it's all grapes, 100%.

425
00:17:09,062 --> 00:17:10,394
-All grapes?
-Yeah.

426
00:17:10,463 --> 00:17:14,198
In the wine, though, they're
actually some of the same...

427
00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,735
Same chemicals that
are prevalent in

428
00:17:17,737 --> 00:17:20,304
Those kind of
fruits and aromas.

429
00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:23,307
The grapes might share
molecular similarities

430
00:17:23,443 --> 00:17:24,641
To other foods,

431
00:17:24,677 --> 00:17:26,377
So that's why people
sometimes notice, oh,

432
00:17:26,446 --> 00:17:30,448
A hint of black currant here
or chocolate there or...

433
00:17:30,450 --> 00:17:32,083
Oak, you know, that's what
people always say, like,

434
00:17:32,085 --> 00:17:33,618
"oh, yes, it's oaky."
right?

435
00:17:33,753 --> 00:17:36,053
But here not so
much oaky, more ok.

436
00:17:36,089 --> 00:17:38,589
[laughing]

437
00:17:38,625 --> 00:17:41,291
I believe wine is an
ethereal experience...

438
00:17:41,327 --> 00:17:43,760
Because what you have is a
full year of grape growing

439
00:17:43,797 --> 00:17:47,098
That is a snapshot
of that entire year.

440
00:17:47,167 --> 00:17:48,566
That year will
never happen again.

441
00:17:48,635 --> 00:17:50,301
It will never be
exactly the same.

442
00:17:50,436 --> 00:17:52,670
When you taste that
bottle of wine,

443
00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:53,805
It's almost like
a time machine.

444
00:17:53,940 --> 00:17:56,040
It's taking you back
and you're tasting that year.

445
00:17:56,175 --> 00:17:59,110
That year is contained
in the bottle-

446
00:17:59,179 --> 00:18:01,245
The soil,
the nutrients.

447
00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:03,314
The very, very
best sommeliers,

448
00:18:03,316 --> 00:18:05,983
They can tell
even the climate.

449
00:18:06,019 --> 00:18:09,386
They'll be like, "oh,
right, ah, hints of

450
00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:12,122
Caramel and
vanilla and...

451
00:18:12,158 --> 00:18:15,659
[sniffing] oh my god,
it rained all may 2-4, huh."

452
00:18:15,695 --> 00:18:17,528
[laughing]

453
00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:20,264
[cheering &
applauding]

454
00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:23,834
♪

455
00:18:23,837 --> 00:18:26,670
Ok falls is a funny old
place where people tell you

456
00:18:26,739 --> 00:18:28,673
To take a short jump
off a long bridge

457
00:18:28,808 --> 00:18:30,408
It's 'cause they like ya.

458
00:18:30,410 --> 00:18:32,443
[laughing]

459
00:18:32,512 --> 00:18:35,413
That's how I ended up down at
the ok falls trestle bridge.

460
00:18:35,415 --> 00:18:37,181
I had a quick chat
with jan black.

461
00:18:37,316 --> 00:18:41,552
[cheering & applauding]

462
00:18:41,554 --> 00:18:44,622
So, tell me, what's the
score here on the bridge?

463
00:18:44,757 --> 00:18:46,757
-What's this tradition?
-Well... Yeah...

464
00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:49,493
It's sort of an iconic thing
here in okanagan falls.

465
00:18:49,562 --> 00:18:51,295
This trestle bridge is...

466
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:53,697
A rite of passage to
jump off the bridge and

467
00:18:53,766 --> 00:18:55,133
Land in the lake.

468
00:18:55,268 --> 00:18:56,467
Is it cold?
How's the water?

469
00:18:56,602 --> 00:18:58,569
-It's mediterranean.
-Yeah, right.

470
00:18:58,605 --> 00:19:00,438
I bet you tell that
to all the boys.

471
00:19:00,573 --> 00:19:01,738
[laughing]

472
00:19:01,774 --> 00:19:04,642
All right, let's do it,
let's get wet.

473
00:19:04,644 --> 00:19:06,443
I was going to do
something impressive.

474
00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:08,179
I was thinking I'll do a
double reverse somersault

475
00:19:08,248 --> 00:19:09,380
In pike position.

476
00:19:09,382 --> 00:19:10,514
[laughing]

477
00:19:10,517 --> 00:19:12,183
But then I thought, man,
think about where you are.

478
00:19:12,318 --> 00:19:14,451
You don't need to
do a fancy dive.

479
00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:16,320
Do an ok fall.

480
00:19:16,455 --> 00:19:18,188
[cheering continues]

481
00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:26,797
And now know when I leave,
I'll bring a bit of ok falls

482
00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:30,401
With me, both in my heart
and in my left ear canal.

483
00:19:30,403 --> 00:19:31,535
I still got some...

484
00:19:31,604 --> 00:19:33,337
[laughing]

485
00:19:33,472 --> 00:19:37,474
♪

486
00:19:37,476 --> 00:19:38,643
Cheers.

487
00:19:38,645 --> 00:19:40,744
This is such an incredible
place, you know.

488
00:19:40,780 --> 00:19:42,379
It's a place where
you could go to

489
00:19:42,415 --> 00:19:44,315
A live livestock auction.

490
00:19:44,450 --> 00:19:46,050
Go jump off a bridge.

491
00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:48,485
Watch salmon come up
through the river.

492
00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:52,423
Or relax and fine dine,
even swallow your wine.

493
00:19:52,425 --> 00:19:53,991
It's a treat for your
mouth and your liver.

494
00:19:54,126 --> 00:19:55,892
[laughing]

495
00:19:55,929 --> 00:19:58,429
See a radio telescope that
could give a heads up

496
00:19:58,498 --> 00:20:00,998
The next time
an alien calls.

497
00:20:01,133 --> 00:20:03,033
Maybe they'll visit, I hope
they're not pissed

498
00:20:03,102 --> 00:20:05,102
If they came here
specifically for falls.

499
00:20:05,104 --> 00:20:06,771
[laughing]

500
00:20:06,906 --> 00:20:09,906
Things are looking up here,
I mean way, way up,

501
00:20:09,943 --> 00:20:12,710
All the way to a
great, distant star.

502
00:20:12,779 --> 00:20:14,845
And just a little bit closer,
look up on the hill,

503
00:20:14,981 --> 00:20:16,914
It's the grapes of
a great pinot noir.

504
00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:18,115
[laughing]

505
00:20:18,151 --> 00:20:21,485
Feel the desert sun's heat
as it rises in the east,

506
00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:24,188
And brings the valley
here a brand new day.

507
00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:26,723
And as it dips behind
the mountain walls...

508
00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:28,726
Here in okanagan falls,

509
00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:31,729
One feels that
everything is gonna be...

510
00:20:31,731 --> 00:20:32,930
[audience joins in]
ok.

511
00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:34,198
Thanks for coming out,
everybody!

512
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,599
You've been great!

513
00:20:35,635 --> 00:20:40,937
[cheering & applauding]

514
00:20:40,974 --> 00:20:43,874
Perfect! He was
out of this world.

515
00:20:43,876 --> 00:20:47,144
Phenomenal,
he did really good.

516
00:20:47,213 --> 00:20:49,680
He gave the people
some information-

517
00:20:49,716 --> 00:20:51,014
There were even in
this room that

518
00:20:51,050 --> 00:20:53,083
Some of them I don't think
completely knew.

519
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,919
♪

520
00:20:55,955 --> 00:20:57,721
You think you
know your town,

521
00:20:57,790 --> 00:20:59,690
But you don't know
as much as you think,

522
00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:01,559
And I definitely
learned a lot.

523
00:21:01,694 --> 00:21:05,529
♪

524
00:21:05,565 --> 00:21:08,566
I'm just so glad still
standing's finally found us.

525
00:21:08,568 --> 00:21:10,568
[laughing]
put us on the map, yay.

526
00:21:10,703 --> 00:21:13,838
♪

527
00:21:13,973 --> 00:21:15,239
What we love about
this show is

528
00:21:15,241 --> 00:21:16,774
It really does unite
a community.

529
00:21:16,843 --> 00:21:18,242
♪

530
00:21:18,244 --> 00:21:21,045
Hey, jonny, you made
some waves in ok falls.

531
00:21:21,180 --> 00:21:22,980
Thanks for
splashing into town.

532
00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:25,349
♪