1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,200 Australia's best days are ahead of us. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,520 We live in the best country in the world. 3 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:06,480 No asterisks, no footnotes. From road to rail... 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,800 We are in the age of infrastructure. The dawn of a new era. 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,240 The great Australian dream. To build a better future. 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,720 We're spending more than any government has ever spent. 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,000 Money splashed around. Splashed more cash. 8 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,040 The cash splash. It's big money in anyone's language. 9 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,400 This is a nation-building... Funds from the nation-building... 10 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,000 ..nation-building... ..nation-building... 11 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,120 Nation-building. 12 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,120 Uh, not...not what I meant. 13 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,800 But surely it's what defines any decent organisation, 14 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,480 pursuing a set of standards that puts impact and global stewardship 15 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:37,800 ahead of any relentless pursuit of profits or power. 16 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,400 (APPLAUSE) Mmm. Yep. Yeah. 17 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,600 But, Bettina, I'm largely in agreement. 18 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,200 But from my perspective as head of a government organisation, 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,080 these sort of ESG compliance measures are somewhat less relevant. 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,240 Well, from my perspective, you're wrong. 21 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,040 Well... (APPLAUSE) 22 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,360 OK, but... 23 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,880 Sorry, can I... 24 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Sorry. I just want to respond to that. 25 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,280 What do we want? No wind farm! 26 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,880 When do we want it? Now! 27 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,320 What do we want? No wind farm! 28 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:06,880 When do we want it? Now! 29 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,760 ..I'll keep. 30 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,120 That one's for Nat. 31 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Oh. Morning, Tony. Hiya, Courtney. 32 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,560 Do we know what's going on outside? 33 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,120 Protesters. Yeah, I can hear that. 34 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Just arrived this morning. Is this about me last night? 35 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,840 I think it's about windmills. Oh. Do we know what they want? 36 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,840 Not sure, but they want it now. 37 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,680 Brian's onto it. You were ambushed. 38 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,320 TONY: I don't want to rake over it, Scotty. 39 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:27,360 SCOTT: I mean, of course the people are gonna side with her. 40 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,400 And turn on you. I don't think anyone TURNED on me. 41 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,080 You don't see the viewer comments on the screen. 42 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,520 It's also the way they edit, to make YOU look like the bad guy. 43 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,480 TONY: It's shot live. Is it? 44 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,600 (WHISTLES) I think you did really well, Tony. 45 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,680 Lots of applause. Yeah, but not for me. 46 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,280 But still, applause. Yep. That's the way it works. 47 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,360 Anything for me? 48 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,600 Thank you. 49 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,040 You got a moment? NAT: Sure. 50 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,480 Who's that mob out the front? Brian's onto it. 51 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,040 They're not here for Tony? We don't think so. 52 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Alright. I just wanted to give you a heads-up. 53 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Turns out we might be having another crack at the Snowy. 54 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,880 You mean like a sequel? What? 55 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,240 Are you talking about the movie? NAT: The Snowy River Hydro Scheme? 56 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Yes. We're thinking of selling it. Oh, OK. 57 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,560 Any reasons? I can give you about 10 billion. 58 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Sure. But there's a fly in the ointment. 59 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,960 Before we can even get started, we need to work out who owns the thing. 60 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,800 The government does. Not the power stations. The name. 61 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,560 The "Snowy River Hydro Scheme". What, like, the trademark? 62 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,640 JIM: Yeah. Everything. 63 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:16,720 Brand, IP, copyright. Legal tell us we need clear title. 64 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,480 We've tried selling the Snowy before, right? 65 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,520 JIM: Mmm. A bunch of times. 66 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,240 So they would have looked into ownership then. 67 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Can I leave it with you? (PROTESTERS SHOUT) 68 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Are you sure they're not here for him? 69 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,480 (PROTESTERS SHOUT) 70 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,680 I'm only getting every second word. 71 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,840 I think it's "What do we want?" 72 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,520 Someone who knows how to use a megaphone? 73 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,200 Can you read the sign down there? 74 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,760 "No wind farm." 75 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,440 Have we announced a new wind farm? 76 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,720 I could check our project delivery schedule. 77 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Or we could just go and ask one of them. 78 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:43,600 OK. 79 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,840 Not a great night for YOU. Oh, I wasn't meant to do it. 80 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,280 The Minister pulled out at the last minute. Some sort of emergency. 81 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,040 Well, it turns out he got home early. 82 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,360 He must have left at half-time. 83 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,200 And he did see a bit. 84 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,160 What emergency has a half-time? Now, he's not blaming you. 85 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,640 But Bettina did get him thinking. Who? 86 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:58,880 The woman who got all the applause with the ESP thing. 87 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,440 Extrasensory perception? 88 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,320 What am I thinking of? ESG? 89 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,280 That's the one. And he wants to know, are we falling behind? 90 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,840 In what sense? Well, in general. 91 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,920 You know, with the environment and the...what's the S? 92 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:10,520 Social. Social and, um... 93 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,520 Governance. 94 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,080 Is it something we should be looking into? 95 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,080 No. I think he's keen. 96 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,880 I'm not. Besides, we're a little busy right now, Jim. 97 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,000 What are you doing? National Highway Duplication Program. 98 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,480 Uh... Our major project. 99 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,320 Urgent assessment for the Estimates Committee. 100 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,720 Oh! Yeah. 101 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,520 Yeah. I think it's a question of priorities. 102 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,120 Yep. I agree. Can I leave it with you? 103 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,920 Yep. We can't afford to fall behind. 104 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:32,240 No, we can't. Hey. And last night? 105 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,680 Mm-hm? Tough crowd. 106 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,880 Thanks. 107 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,880 (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 108 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,680 How's it looking? Interesting. 109 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,200 This trademark thing could be a bit tricky. 110 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,200 NAT: Really? 111 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,640 There's a bunch of people using the phrase - 112 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,920 Snowy River Caravans, Snowy Mountain Spring Water, 113 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,400 the Snowy Classic bike ride. 114 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,240 That's a bit of a stretch. Well, then there's that poem. 115 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,600 What poem? 116 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,800 Banjo Paterson. 117 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,840 The Man from Snowy Hydro? Legal says it's a risk. 118 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,200 What about the exact words "Snowy Hydro"? 119 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,960 There's the Snowy Hydro Discovery Centre. 120 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,440 I think that's owned by the government. 121 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,080 Alright. What about "Snowy Hydro cost blowout"? 122 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,320 What? Sorry. That's a news story. 123 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,520 NAT: Maybe Jim's right. 124 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,720 We should go back through some of the old privatisation attempts. 125 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:11,800 "Snowy Hydro bungle". 126 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,160 Sorry. Another news story. 127 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,160 Onto it. Great. 128 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,720 TONY: Scotty? 129 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:16,800 SCOTT: Yep. I'm coming. OK. 130 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,520 BRIAN: Ah, Tony. What's with the vest? 131 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,600 (SIGHS) Wanted to give you a sitrep. A what? 132 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,480 We estimate the crowd at or around 10 persons. 133 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,800 Not really a crowd. Age range, 55 to 80. 134 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,800 So retirees. 135 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,800 I'm thinking bollards. What for? 136 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,320 In case they try ramming the entrance. 137 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,280 With what? A mobility scooter? Can't be too careful. 138 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:35,120 Is that pepper spray? Mm-hm. 139 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Just in case the situation escalates. 140 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,080 Honestly, Brian, I don't want to fight with them. 141 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,720 Commence negotiations. It's not a siege. 142 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,600 I'm saying talk to them. Copy that. 143 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,080 (RADIO CRACKLES) Leaving sector one now. 144 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,960 SCOTT: Yes. TONY: OK. 145 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,280 SCOTT: Up. TONY: No, down low. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 146 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:53,960 Is that for all of the systems, their parameters? 147 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,520 (RADIO CRACKLES) OK. 148 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:56,520 Yep. 149 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Oh. 150 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Well, that is great news. 151 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,360 Yeah. Not now, Rhonda. No. 152 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Well, if we get the state submissions back end of next week 153 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,640 and they agree to the formula, with the odd caveat, 154 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,480 then I reckon we're back on track. 155 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,440 Sorry, mate. I'm just gonna have to call you back. 156 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,840 Sorry, team. Can I just grab a minute off you? 157 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:13,080 We'll need longer than that. 158 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,240 TONY: Grab yourselves a coffee. Make it lunch. 159 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,760 Go on. Oh. And...and...and a coffee? 160 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,000 TONY: Yeah. Yeah. 161 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,480 Well, what's our plan? 162 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,600 What plan? Oh. 163 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,400 I thought Jim spoke to you about this whole ECG debacle. 164 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,440 Electrocardiogram? Oh, you know what I'm talking about. 165 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:27,760 ESG? Thank you. 166 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,640 Honestly, Rhonda, what's the sudden urgency? 167 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,320 Oh. Allow me to show you. 168 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,600 Polling data? Oh. The message is clear. 169 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,320 Is this where it's coming from? It's coming from everywhere. 170 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,080 Voters 18 to 35. What's the E for? 171 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,360 Environment. Yep. 172 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,480 "Should the government take climate change and sustainability 173 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,440 "into account when formulating policy?" 174 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,280 87%. Yeah. Agreed. 175 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:47,280 And the S? 176 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:48,360 Social. Yep. 177 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,640 "Should diversity, inclusion and wider social issues 178 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,400 "be a factor in policy formation?" 179 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,200 93%. 180 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,280 No argument from me. And the...? 181 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:58,160 Governance. Same story. Honestly. 182 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,800 It's like you're hearing this for the first time. 183 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,000 No wonder we've fallen behind. 184 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Rhonda, this is what I tried to explain last night. 185 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,480 And wasn't that a car crash? 186 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,280 ESG is not actually designed for government. 187 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:08,320 Hear that? (SILENCE) 188 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,320 What? No-one's applauding. 189 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,520 We've got our own set of guidelines. 190 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,080 We've got an entire regulatory framework. 191 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,520 And there goes our 18-to-35-year-olds. 192 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,200 We need to fix this. 193 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,760 We're falling behind. 194 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:20,920 (SIGHS) 195 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,560 So, last time the government attempted privatisation of the Snowy 196 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,560 was in 2006. 197 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,000 I've chased the audit committee's report. 198 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,320 And what does it say? "File no longer retrievable." 199 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,400 I guess it's nearly 20 years ago. 200 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,360 And our archive storage system got updated. 201 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,280 There must still be something on the database. 202 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:36,280 "Snowy privatisation". 203 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:38,040 No, our database only goes back five years. 204 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,480 That's when we moved to the cloud. I knew that was a mistake. 205 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,160 Not really. Much better search function. 206 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,920 For documents that are less than five years old. 207 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,160 Yeah. It's really good for them. 208 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:48,720 I'll keep looking. 209 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,160 (PROTESTERS SHOUT) KATIE: Tony? 210 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,040 Good news on the protesters. They're packing up? 211 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,520 No, but Courtney managed to fix their megaphone. 212 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,520 It was the batteries. TONY: I thought it was a bit clearer. 213 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,360 What's Brian doing down there? KATIE: Looking for Neo-Nazis. 214 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,720 What? He thought he saw a hate symbol. 215 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,720 TONY: Really? 216 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,400 I suspect it was just a badly drawn windmill. 217 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,440 Oh, yeah. I think you might be right. 218 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:08,440 Hey, Jim. Good news. 219 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,000 Just came from a ministerial briefing, 220 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,560 and the big fella likes what he's hearing. 221 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,120 Oh, wow. He's right behind it. 222 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,800 The whole NHDP? I think it was ES-something. 223 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,720 National Highway Duplication Program? Oh, damn! 224 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,120 I was supposed to mention that, wasn't I? 225 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,960 Jim, the Expenditure Review Committee meet next week. 226 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,160 I'll shoot him a text. Oh, for God's sakes! 227 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,880 It's swings and roundabouts! We got the go-ahead on ESG. 228 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,040 Jim, can I explain to you exactly what ESG is? 229 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,000 Oh, that'd be great, 'cause Rhonda was a bit vague. 230 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,520 Yep. Can I get this for the Minister? 231 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,680 He was a little hazy on it too. 232 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,200 Hey, Siri, dictate this. 233 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,560 ESG is basically an exercise to assess your level 234 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,360 of gender diversity, inclusivity, sustainability. 235 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,000 (WHISPERS) Oh, he's gonna love this. Yep. 236 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,760 It's a comprehensive, time-consuming audit 237 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,160 in order to rank your level of compliance. 238 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,160 (WHISPERS) Oh, this is great. 239 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,360 But even for corporations, 240 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,000 it's often a virtue-signalling public relations boondoggle. 241 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,040 For us, a complete waste of time. Siri, stop. 242 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,360 Worse, it's gonna distract us from our real work. 243 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,560 Just remind me. Highway Duplication. 244 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,040 Oh, yeah. I'm gonna send... Text. 245 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,680 Text. Yeah, yeah. You know what? 246 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,080 I'm just gonna play him the first part. 247 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,200 Sure. 248 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,200 Ta-da! 249 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,200 What's that? 250 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,560 I found my old laptop. 251 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:10,960 I'm pretty sure it should still have 252 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,840 the archive stuff we're searching for on the hard drive. 253 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,480 Great! I'm just looking for a charger. 254 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,280 Oh. Nah, that's USB-C. 255 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,560 You wouldn't happen to have a MagSafe? 256 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,160 I don't even know what that is. I still have one at home. 257 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,600 Oh, great. Go get it. 258 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Oh, no! What? 259 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,360 My e-bike hasn't recharged. 260 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,440 Well, just use the pedals. Oh, yeah. 261 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,680 Be right back. 262 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,760 Are you leaving the premises? Yep. 263 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:33,760 I'll escort you out. 264 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,200 Safe passage. 265 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,760 (RADIO CRACKLES) Leaving sector three now. 266 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,920 OK. 267 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,120 I think Jim will back me up on this. 268 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,200 If we sign off on it our end then get it to Canberra end of the month... 269 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,400 And the supporting documentation? 270 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Uh, yep. All lodged with the cabinet secretary's office for the ERC. 271 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,640 Then cabinet then budget. Yeah, Jim? 272 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,560 Uh, hang on, Tony. Did you get a text from Rhonda? 273 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:01,000 Uh, yeah. Yep. Got a few. We can come back to that. 274 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,360 Is Tony there? Uh, yes. Yes, he is. 275 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,120 RHONDA: What's your problem? What? 276 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Monique is waiting for you right now. 277 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,600 Who's Monique, and why is she waiting for me? 278 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,880 The EPL, Tony. 279 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,880 We're falling behind, and she's here to help. Quick sticks! 280 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,720 No, no, no. We... we can come back to that any time. 281 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,560 We finish this now. Too important to postpone. 282 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:18,960 Hello? 283 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,360 I think Rhonda muted you, Tony. 284 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,560 God, she shits me. 285 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:23,040 RHONDA: I heard that. 286 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,560 Hurry up. 287 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,400 What the hell? 288 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,840 I'm OK. You only live a few blocks away. 289 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,360 It was a pretty steep hill. 290 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,520 One of the protesters helped him into the lift. 291 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,040 NAT: How'd you go, with the charger? Found it. 292 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,560 NAT: Great. And even better news. 293 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:37,560 NAT: Yeah? 294 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:39,000 I found a bunch of photos I thought I'd lost. 295 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,360 NAT: Oh! Please. 296 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,480 That is not safe for work. That's my new screensaver. 297 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,840 NAT: What about the Snowy? 298 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,360 Couldn't find any reference to the ownership 299 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,240 of the phrase "Snowy River Hydro Scheme" in the '06 proceeding, 300 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,760 but the footnotes refer to a previous attempt 301 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,560 at privatisation in 1993. 302 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:55,200 And? My laptop only goes back to 2004. 303 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,600 Hang on. Can't we just ring the person who chaired the 2006 report? 304 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,880 I did. He's got the file index on his BlackBerry. 305 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:00,880 NAT: And? 306 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,920 He's searching for a charger. 307 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,720 Can you close that, please? 308 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,720 Mmm. 309 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,520 It's worse than I thought. She hasn't said anything yet. 310 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,520 She said "Mmm." 311 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,920 Were you involved in the Sir Stanford Wessells statue thing as well? 312 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,040 I work across a range of problematic departments. 313 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,280 Problematic? Well! 314 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,600 I think it's pretty obvious what's happened here. 315 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:21,600 We've fallen behind. 316 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,920 There's a clear lack of ESG framework. 317 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,320 Yeah, but I'm not sure that... Look, Tony. 318 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,000 No-one is blaming you. I am. 319 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,920 Seriously, is anyone worrying about ESG? 320 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,480 I think it's an issue that impacts us all. 321 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,520 Especially 18-to-35-year-olds. 322 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,440 MONIQUE: I've done a lot of work within this space, helping 323 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,920 some of our more backward organisations 324 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,680 navigate the challenges. 325 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:39,160 Backward? I understand. You're defensive. 326 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,320 No, I'm busy. 327 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,440 So, what I'd like to start with is an ESG pulse check. 328 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,440 Look at everything through an ESG lens. 329 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Perfect. Do you even know what that means? 330 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,240 I'm sure Monique does. It's an office audit. 331 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,880 To help us get a feel for where we're all at. 332 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,960 And where are we at? Falling behind? 333 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,600 Exactly. (SCOTT SIGHS) 334 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,880 Brian says we should have pretty much everything backed up on these. 335 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:57,880 Where is Brian? 336 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,720 Running background checks on the protesters. 337 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,720 Oh. Here we go. 338 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,040 Ah! This one's labelled "1990 to 1995". 339 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,680 You know what that means. It'll have spiders. 340 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:07,000 It'll have the files we're chasing. 341 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,800 We just need to find a cable so we can connect it 342 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:09,840 to one of our laptops. 343 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,680 Mmm. There's a bunch here. 344 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:12,680 This? 345 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:13,800 USB-C. 346 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,840 Unless there's an adaptor. 347 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,640 Mini-DVI? 348 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,240 Nah, that's female-to-female. 349 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,680 Can you please never use that phrase again? 350 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,040 Do you have a USB-C to a Lightning? 351 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,720 I've got this. Yes! 352 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,120 It's the right one? No, it's my old bike lock. 353 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,680 I'll keep looking. 354 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:31,560 WOMAN: You've heard of ESG, haven't you? 355 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:33,440 MAN: It's about getting that impact balance right. 356 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,520 MAN 2: Understanding how the real world now functions. 357 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,280 MAN 3: Environmental, social and corporate governance. 358 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,320 WOMAN: How do you actually implement that sort of thing? 359 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,840 (PROTESTERS SHOUT) (RADIO CRACKLES) 360 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Level three secure. Seriously, Brian, I'm fine. 361 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,400 I don't even know who you're reporting to. 362 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,680 Copy that, Brian. Just don't want to take any chances. 363 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:50,040 There seems to be even more of them today. 364 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,240 Want me to move them on? No. 365 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,240 Baton charge? 366 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,600 No. They've got a legal right to protest. 367 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,120 I think we should just find out what they want. 368 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,760 And then disperse them. Just talk to them. 369 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,000 Morning, Tony. Courtney. 370 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,880 Quick question - when I talk to you about an office issue, 371 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,800 is that an example of having my concerns heard and addressed? 372 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,840 What? I'm just doing the ESG audit. 373 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,920 I'm up to S. Uh, sure. Yeah. 374 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,240 And can you think of a time 375 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,680 when we've taken unethical advantage of our customers? 376 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:15,600 We don't have customers. And/or stakeholders? 377 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,040 Running a little late. 378 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,160 I'll tick 'rarely'. OK. 379 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,280 Where'd you get this? Brian found it downstairs. 380 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:21,680 And you think it could have our files? 381 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:23,360 Let's find out. Hit the power button. 382 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,720 (COMPUTER ALERT PLAYS) It's working! 383 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,320 Excellent. Where'd you find a charger? 384 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:28,920 We used a Thunderbolt-to-Lightning. 385 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,080 Very, very frightening. What? 386 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,840 (COMPUTER ALERT PLAYS) Success! 387 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,680 Now we've got to stick this in somewhere. 388 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:35,880 Um... 389 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,040 Oh. 390 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,440 Super Mario. 391 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Might have been Tony's. 392 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,320 OK. 393 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:43,520 (WHIRRING) 394 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,000 What's that noise? It's booting up. 395 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,320 What's that? Here we go. 396 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,160 (COMPUTER ALERT PLAYS) There we went. 397 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,960 I don't know what happened. Can you try ejecting it? 398 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,520 It's stuck. 399 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:56,840 PROTESTERS: No wind farm! 400 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,280 No wind farm! You know what? We can just email him. 401 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,400 Oh, and, Tony, how would you quantify 402 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,400 the ethical impact of our supply chains? 403 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,000 TONY: What? For the office audit. 404 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,280 Oh, you're doing it too. We don't want to fall behind. 405 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,720 We are now. COURTNEY: Tony? 406 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,400 Would it be OK if a few of the protesters used our bathroom? 407 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,680 TONY: What? The public toilets are closed. 408 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:15,680 Oh. Sure. Oh, and that's not how you spell 'turbine'. 409 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:16,880 COURTNEY: OK. I'll let them know. 410 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,720 And has the Minister confirmed this Friday's meeting? 411 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:20,720 Still waiting to hear. 412 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Do we regularly donate a percentage of our profits 413 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,040 to the local community? 414 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,120 We don't make profits. So we're losing money? 415 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,960 No. We're a government organisation. We spend money. 416 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,920 On the local community? Uh, sort of. 417 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,960 I'll tick "not applicable". Yep. 418 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,560 OK. I think I've found how to do it. 419 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:42,840 The disc? There's this kid on YouTube. 420 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,000 He knows everything. 421 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,160 OK. 422 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,000 Press control, command, option 423 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,080 and shift... 424 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,440 Yep. ..and escape. 425 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,760 I don't have enough fingers. There you go. 426 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,040 Nothing's happening. Right this way, folks. 427 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,440 Keep your hands where I can see them. 428 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,040 Oh, your CD drive's stuck. 429 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,040 NAT: Uh, yeah. 430 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,440 Mind if I, uh...? Sure. 431 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,360 Can I grab that paperclip? Um... 432 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:08,360 Oh! Oh! (GASPS) Wow! 433 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,720 What?! You're welcome. 434 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,720 Sir. I'm gonna need you to leave that paperclip there. 435 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,400 Scotty. How's it going? Uh...uh, yeah, yeah. 436 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,520 Almost finished. Oh, excellent. 437 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,320 Don't forget, you've got to send copies to the Treasury 438 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,320 AND the Finance Department. 439 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,800 No, I've almost finished the office audit. 440 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,280 Out of 10, how would you rate our transparency 441 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,400 surrounding ethical investment? 442 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,400 Scotty... I'll go eight. 443 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,920 Any sign of those engineering summaries? 444 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,680 Uh, yeah. The courier said they'll be here tomorrow. 445 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,360 TONY: Have you looked? Through an ESG lens? 446 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,720 TONY: No, have you looked for them? 447 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,720 It's alright. I'll do it. 448 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,840 Tony, can I ask you about 449 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,080 employee/employer engagement metrics? 450 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,360 No. Oh. 451 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,640 See? This is how we fell behind. 452 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,840 So, shall we try this again? 453 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,280 What if it gets stuck? I've got Dev's paperclip. 454 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,720 Maybe a different CD? How many have you got? 455 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,240 Um... 456 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,120 ..about 200. 457 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,680 Hey. You think these would be recyclable? 458 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,080 What? Just for the ESG audit. 459 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,160 I'm still doing environmental. 460 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,000 So you're telling me the files we're looking for 461 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 could be on any one of these discs? 462 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,560 Yep. This is gonna take forever. 463 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,960 Don't worry. We've got an index file. 464 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,720 Oh. Where? It'll be one of these. 465 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,320 TONY: Hey! 466 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Freeze! Oh! 467 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Ah! Jeez! Sorry, Tony. 468 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,480 Oh. I thought someone might have breached our perimeter. 469 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,480 Oh, right. 470 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,600 Hey, have any document parcels arrived for me or Scotty overnight? 471 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,760 Oh, God. 472 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,000 Oh, to be honest, I've been so busy, 473 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,360 what with the protesters and now this audit. 474 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,520 You too? Yeah. 475 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,080 Whole-of-organisation approach. 476 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,360 Some excellent questions. TONY: Yep. 477 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,320 "Should meetings be in person? 478 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,360 "Should you be printing out so much paper?" 479 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,040 I mean, it really makes you think. Hopefully about this Friday. 480 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,120 BRIAN: What's Friday? 481 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Ministerial presentation for the NHDP. 482 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,600 You were gonna set up the AV gear. 483 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,600 Absolutely. (LAUGHS) 484 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Oh, here's an interesting one. 485 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,120 "Could your department be more diverse?" 486 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,200 You're one person. Yes. 487 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,760 I'll tick 'maybe'. 488 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,640 This is insane. I'm sure it'll be one of these. 489 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,560 We've got notebooks from the 17th century we can still read. 490 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,440 You know what we need? Documents. 491 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Microsoft documents? No, actual physical files. 492 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,560 There must be something in the archives. 493 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,440 Like on a server? On a shelf! 494 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,960 Something capable of gathering dust. 495 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,640 So, throw these away? Yeah. Throw them away. 496 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,440 COURTNEY: No, that's e-waste. 497 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,440 Environment. 498 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,000 You should be recycling. (SNAPS FINGERS) 499 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,640 Good thinking. 500 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:16,760 MAN: "Ooh! Our company has ESG!" 501 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,280 WOMAN: Is it a case of all hands on deck? 502 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,120 MAN: Companies must demonstrate their moral virtue. 503 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,120 WOMAN: Treat everyone with respect. MAN 2: We can do better. 504 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,800 WOMAN 2: All of those things are good for business. 505 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,800 (PROTESTERS SHOUT) 506 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,280 I reckon there's even more of them today. 507 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,880 Joan brought her sister. Oh. 508 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,680 And that's not how you spell 'moratorium'. 509 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,680 I'll let them know. Oh, and they made us scones. 510 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,520 Really? To thank Courtney for the batteries. 511 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,360 (LAUGHS) Hey, do we know exactly which of our wind farms it is? 512 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,120 (SIRENS CHIRP) I got distracted by the scones. 513 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,720 Is that police? Oh. Brian just radioed. 514 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,280 Apparently, someone was jostled. TONY: Jostled? 515 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,640 They don't seem violent. No, someone jostled THEM. 516 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,880 What? Do we know who? 517 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,800 How hard can it be getting into your own building? 518 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,840 Come on. We've got a meeting. 519 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,320 MONIQUE: Well, I think this has been a valuable exercise. 520 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,560 RHONDA: Couldn't agree more. 521 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,480 MONIQUE: Some very interesting staff feedback. 522 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,960 Environment ranks poorly. What's the issue? Plastic straws? 523 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,400 MONIQUE: If only it were that simple. 524 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,520 Hm. MONIQUE: Social. 525 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,200 Oh, where do I start? With an example. 526 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,160 I could give you dozens. Mm-hm. 527 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Hayden mentioned a clear lack of meaningful workplace engagement. 528 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,600 Bookkeeper Hayden. He works from home. 529 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,400 There's a sense of exclusion. He chooses to work from home. 530 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,760 MONIQUE: Governance is a real concern. 531 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,840 There appears to be little or no protection for whistleblowers. 532 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,040 I didn't know we had any. 533 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,520 Perhaps they're too frightened to speak up. 534 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,320 About what? The plastic straws? 535 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,880 Monique, I'm in the final stages 536 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,680 of getting a massive construction project locked down, 537 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:33,680 hopefully funded. 538 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,040 Interesting. This could be perfect. 539 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,640 Perfect for what? Is this about Hayden? 540 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,480 MONIQUE: The next stage of our audit. 541 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,640 What if we were to run an ESG lens across this whole project? 542 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,880 See how compliant you are. TONY: No. 543 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,160 MONIQUE: I'm sensing some resistance. 544 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,160 Yeah, I said no. 545 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,600 Tony, no-one is pointing the finger at you. 546 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,440 I am. He's dragging his feet again. 547 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,520 I want you to see this as an opportunity. 548 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,600 I'm trying to get 1,000km of interstate highway divided. 549 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,200 And that is a noble goal. 550 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,000 But what's the first thing people are going to ask? 551 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,800 "How soon can you do another 1,000km?" 552 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,880 "What's your ESG compliance?" 553 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,880 Wood for the trees. 554 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,400 Um, what practically will this accreditation process... 555 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,720 ..uh, how will it help us? 556 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,760 It'll stop us from falling behind. 557 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,120 Tony, it's a measure, a mirror, 558 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:12,360 a way of looking at yourself 559 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:14,480 and identifying where you're falling short. 560 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,640 So we get ESG-compliant on a project we may never complete? 561 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,680 It's part of the completion. 562 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,560 You follow that? I'm still thinking about Hayden. 563 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,880 Why is there a policeman? Why is that man pointing at Rhonda? 564 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,040 Hm? 565 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,360 Oh! I did it! 566 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:30,360 How did I do that? 567 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:31,800 OK. Bit of a breakthrough. 568 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,120 Yep? Take a look. 569 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:35,240 Oh! You said, "Change your screensaver." 570 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,480 Not to that! What's the breakthrough? 571 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,040 ASHAN: Well, turns out there was a book written 572 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,800 about the early days of the Snowy Hydro Scheme. 573 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,640 "Taming the Wild - 574 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,840 "a detailed history of proceedings leading to the establishment 575 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,600 "of the Snowy Mountain Hydro-Electric Authority." 576 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,600 Catchy title. 577 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,800 It's bound to tell us who first came up with the name. 578 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,240 Can you download a copy? ASHAN: Sure. 579 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,760 Ah! It's not digital. 580 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,360 Then we'll order one. Sure. 581 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,520 Ah! Out of stock. 582 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,600 Are you kidding? ASHAN: Hang on. 583 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,440 There's a copy in a public library. Let's borrow it. 584 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,760 ASHAN: Sure. 585 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,640 Ah! Not for loan. 586 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,000 Can you stop leaving gaps? ASHAN: Sorry. 587 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,600 Alright. Then let's go there in person. 588 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,760 Bit of a drive. 589 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,520 Where is it? Cooma. 590 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,120 I'm not sure if my e-bike is up to it. 591 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,280 TONY: Katie? 592 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,560 Why are the protesters in our kitchen? 593 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,440 Have they stormed the building? No. 594 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Courtney let them in to use the kettle. 595 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,720 You want me to disperse them? No. 596 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,240 We need a hard line. Yep. 597 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,280 They brought us more scones. 598 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,640 Beauty! What happened to hard line? 599 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,560 And, Tony, I asked them which wind farm they're protesting about. 600 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,680 It's on the south coast. Yeah. South coast of what? 601 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,040 I'll go check. BRIAN: I'll escort you. 602 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,160 Did they bring any jam? Oh, yeah, homemade. 603 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,800 Hard line. 604 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,880 Alrighty. Let's get started. 605 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,520 Sorry? (WHISPERS) We're not here. 606 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,880 You are. Carry on. 607 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:49,880 Petra, how'd you go? 608 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,280 PETRA: We're looking pretty well covered 609 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,360 for the mid-level civil construction roles. 610 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:55,880 I'm just waiting on detailed projections of other skill areas. 611 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,680 So...concrete, surveying... 612 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,640 Can I just come in here? You have. 613 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,880 The people you're talking about, building this road... 614 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,280 Highway. ..where would they come from? 615 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,080 Oh. Stuart? 616 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,080 We've partnered with several large labour-hire agencies. 617 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,960 It's a mix of CFMEU and AW... MONIQUE: But socio-economically. 618 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:10,960 What? 619 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,560 Is there a risk that we could be exploiting them? 620 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,080 Hmm. It's a good question. This is where the framework helps. 621 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,960 Exploitative? Have you seen the workplace agreements? 622 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,120 MONIQUE: Tony. Tone. 623 00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:19,880 TONY: We've got union officials ready to pull the plug 624 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,560 if the temperature hits 30 degrees, 8-day fortnights. 625 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,880 I've got kids with stop/go signs on quarter of a million dollars a year 626 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,600 plus bonuses. 627 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,320 Just clarifying. Please, continue. 628 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Heavy haulage will be staggered... 629 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,360 Actually, there was another thing. This road of yours. 630 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:33,760 Highway. What will it be made of? 631 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,800 Oh. Kirsty? 632 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,440 KIRSTY: Deep-strength asphalt. 633 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,960 On a cement stabilised granular sub-base. 634 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,960 Interesting. It is, yeah. 635 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,280 Ever considered recycled materials? TONY: No. 636 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,440 Open mind, Tony. Rubber? 637 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,480 It wouldn't work. I've read about it working. 638 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,280 Yeah, on Danish bike paths. See what happened there? 639 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,800 Loud and clear. Unnecessary aggression. 640 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,800 Mmm. 641 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,640 This speaks to governance. G. 642 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,240 MONIQUE: Not letting other voices be heard. 643 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,360 No. I mean, why isn't Hayden here? 644 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:58,360 Hayden?! He works from home. He's not an engineer. 645 00:20:58,360 --> 00:20:59,680 I wouldn't be putting labels on people. 646 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,400 Sorry, he doesn't identify as an engineer. 647 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,400 (SIGHS) 648 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,240 I wonder if we might have a word in private. 649 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,360 ASHAN: I think we're lost. What does the map say? 650 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:19,840 "No reception." NAT: No, the map! 651 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,440 This! ASHAN: Oh. 652 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,040 How do you use it? 653 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,560 (SIGHS) 654 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,880 Alright. I'm sorry. 655 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,520 Tony, we're not blaming you. I am. 656 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,200 But there's some definite red flags here. 657 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,680 Monique, I've spent years putting together 658 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,320 a federated infrastructure system. 659 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,320 I'm this close to getting it across the line. 660 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,960 And you're microdosing my office on ESG. 661 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,760 What have you got against inclusion? What? 662 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,200 What have you got against sustainability? 663 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,800 Are you a climate denier? You want sustainability? 664 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,840 On this one project, I've got 665 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,920 seven different environmental impact statements. 666 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,440 Inclusivity? 667 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,280 There's already 87 volumes of workplace regulations, 668 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,520 non-discrimination legislation, international labour treaties. 669 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,080 There's that tone again. Yeah. 670 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,480 There's that lack of perspective again. 671 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,800 I can't help but observe that you do have 672 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,720 a very male-centric power structure operating here. 673 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,720 Your point? 674 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,760 I wonder whether someone in a leadership role who was female, 675 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,000 or who identified as female, 676 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,600 might bring a softer touch. 677 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,880 I'm not sure that's gonna matter... 678 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,720 RHONDA: Of course they would! 679 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,080 All that aggression. It's toxic. 680 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,120 ASHAN: Shields. 681 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:22,400 Smith. Sneddon. Sweeney. 682 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,800 Here. Oh. Where? 683 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,520 Well, this is where it should be. You're kidding me. 684 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,640 Maybe someone borrowed it. 685 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,000 You said it's not for loan. Or stole it. 686 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,480 Who would steal a boring book 687 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,360 about the early days of the Snowy River Hydro Sc... 688 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:33,360 Shh! 689 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:34,480 NAT: Sorry. 690 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,280 So, what now? 691 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,800 (SIGHS) 692 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,480 (PROTESTERS SHOUT) 693 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,640 Tony? The Minister's just arrived. 694 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,120 Oh. 695 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,040 Oh, this one. That's it. 696 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,240 I am looking forward to today, Tony. 697 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,360 Well, hold your fire, Minister, 698 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:54,840 but there is definitely some good news. 699 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,120 So I've heard. Quite a bit of progress. 700 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:57,960 Well, I'll let you be the judge. 701 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,200 (LAUGHS) 702 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,720 Set to go? TONY: Yep. 703 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,160 Katie, the, uh, briefing documents. We're trying paperless. 704 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,320 The MSG lens. TONY: What?! 705 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,240 But Brian's got it all on the screen. 706 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,760 OK. Uh...alright. 707 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,280 Well, um, let me take you through an update of the NHDP, 708 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,320 where we are with the states, the territories and, of course... 709 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,320 BRAD: ESG compliance. What was that? 710 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,560 Apologies, Tony. I interrupted you. 711 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,120 Um...and, of course... The Expenditure Review Committee. 712 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,800 ESG? Where did that come from? I'm hearing whispers. It's all good. 713 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,040 I guess it's just not our main focus at this point. 714 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,960 Sure. Sure, sure. Just, it speaks to where we're trying to up our game. 715 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,960 TONY: Sure. Yeah. 716 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,840 Well, how about I whip through the NHDP, current state of play? 717 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Brian? 718 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,320 BRIAN: Oh. Um...hang on. 719 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,720 TONY: Yep. 720 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,360 Wrong folder, I think. 721 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,680 Taming the Wild. 722 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,840 NAT: It doesn't appear to be on the shelf. 723 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:43,840 Let me take a look. 724 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,240 That's the sort of cable we were chasing. 725 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,880 Ah! Here we go. 726 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,960 It seems to have been archived. 727 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,200 Archived? Mmm. 728 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,920 We take them off the shelf to protect them from... 729 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,080 Readers? Damage. 730 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,440 Of course. Is there a chance we could take a quick look? 731 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,240 Archives are only open on Monday. 732 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,360 You may have to wait a couple of days. 733 00:23:58,360 --> 00:23:59,760 Days? 734 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,760 What now? (INAUDIBLE) 735 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,200 Just looking up things to do in Cooma. 736 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,640 We are not staying in Coo... 737 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,680 Excuse me. Mmm. 738 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,480 Is there a chance you could send us an excerpt from the book? 739 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,920 Oh, could be copyright issues. NAT: Not the whole thing. 740 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,560 We're only interested in the first few chapters, 741 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,920 about the formation of the Hydro Scheme. 742 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,400 I'll see what I can do. Thank you. 743 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,480 There's a trout fishing museum. 744 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,400 OK. So we come all the way back to the org chart. 745 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,120 So, our assessment, tick. 746 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:24,200 States and territories agree to the allocation formula. Tick. 747 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,680 In principle, ministerial support. 748 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,680 Big tick. ERC, cabinet, etc. 749 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,040 Question - how far are we from announcing? 750 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,200 The whole Highway Duplication Program? 751 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,840 BRAD: Yeah. Well, it sort of depends. 752 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,480 And if it's ESG-compliant. 753 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,240 Well...we won't know that it's ESG-compliant. 754 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,640 She's right. We ARE falling behind. Sorry, who was right? 755 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,080 Tony, this is wonderful work, and well done. 756 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,120 TONY: But? 757 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,360 But are we better off, rather than the sugar hit 758 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,800 of announcing a national highway thing... 759 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,960 Not sure that it's a sugar hit. 760 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,520 ..are we better off getting all of our ESG ducks in a row 761 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,840 then coming back? 762 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,440 Isn't that getting the cart before the horse? 763 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,080 No. I'm not even sure there's a horse. 764 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,080 What about the ducks? 765 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600 Why are we using a horse and cart? Oh, we ARE falling behind. 766 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,880 (SCOTT SIGHS) 767 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,560 Um... 768 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,600 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 769 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,360 NAT: Oh! 770 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:18,000 Parcel from the Cooma Public Library. 771 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,400 Yes! Our book. 772 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,080 And can you make sure to recycle that post bag? 773 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,160 Sure. 774 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,000 Ta-da! 775 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,760 What the hell? What is it? 776 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,520 DEV: Oh, it's microfiche. What? 777 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,200 It's how we used to store books and newspapers. 778 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,480 There's stuff written on it. You reckon it's what we're after? 779 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,920 I guess. 780 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,720 What do we plug it into? 781 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,480 Dev? 782 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,240 Oh, THAT south coast. That's the wind farm. 783 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,240 We're not building it. We're backing down? 784 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,480 No, no. That's a state government project. 785 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,040 So nothing to do with us? No. 786 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,160 So where's the state infrastructure office? 787 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,720 Uh...it's that building. 788 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,680 I'll let them know. 789 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,760 When do we want it? Now! 790 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,760 There. 791 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,840 "At the meeting's end, 792 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,920 "a formal declaration was made by the engineer-in-chief 793 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,440 "for the formation of the Snowy Mountain Hydro-Electricity Scheme." 794 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,640 "The chief engineer, working for the Australian government..." 795 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,600 So we own the phrase. MAN: Terribly sorry. 796 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,480 The museum closes in five minutes. 797 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,040 All good. 798 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,760 Right. How to get this out now? 799 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,920 (INAUDIBLE) 800 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,680 What do we want? 801 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,720 No wind farm! 802 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,600 When do we want it? Now! 803 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,760 What do we want? No wind farm! 804 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,280 When do we want it? Now! 805 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,960 Captions by Red Bee Media 806 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,640 Copyright Australian Broadcasting Corporation