1 00:00:02,085 --> 00:00:03,375 NARRATOR: Tonight on The Curse of Oak Island... 2 00:00:03,504 --> 00:00:04,594 SCOTT: Oh, wow. 3 00:00:04,713 --> 00:00:05,883 No matter what we’re into in this area, 4 00:00:05,964 --> 00:00:08,094 whether it’s wood or water or soil, 5 00:00:08,217 --> 00:00:09,257 we’re getting gold. 6 00:00:09,384 --> 00:00:11,554 -(beeping) -(both gasp) 7 00:00:11,637 --> 00:00:13,637 -Oh, what have we got, mate? -That’s awesome. 8 00:00:13,722 --> 00:00:17,272 This comes from Sardinia, off the coast of Italy. 9 00:00:17,392 --> 00:00:18,442 MARTY: Whoa. 10 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,060 It’s the trail of the Templars. 11 00:00:20,145 --> 00:00:22,435 This thing could have a worldwide impact. 12 00:00:22,564 --> 00:00:23,654 -Oh, definitely. -MARTY: Yeah. 13 00:00:23,732 --> 00:00:25,072 EMILIANO: It’s a game changer. 14 00:00:25,192 --> 00:00:26,942 The source of an astonishing revelation. 15 00:00:27,069 --> 00:00:28,819 ♪ ♪ 16 00:00:31,365 --> 00:00:34,785 NARRATOR: There is an island in the North Atlantic 17 00:00:34,910 --> 00:00:37,160 where people have been looking for 18 00:00:37,246 --> 00:00:41,166 an incredible treasure for more than 200 years. 19 00:00:41,250 --> 00:00:44,090 So far, they have found a stone slab 20 00:00:44,211 --> 00:00:46,301 with strange symbols carved into it... 21 00:00:47,256 --> 00:00:50,926 ...man-made workings that date to medieval times, 22 00:00:51,051 --> 00:00:55,181 and a lead cross whose origin may be connected 23 00:00:55,264 --> 00:00:56,354 to the Knights Templar. 24 00:00:56,431 --> 00:00:59,231 To date, six men have died 25 00:00:59,309 --> 00:01:01,439 trying to solve the mystery. 26 00:01:01,562 --> 00:01:07,362 And according to legend, one more will have to die 27 00:01:07,442 --> 00:01:10,902 before the treasure can be found. 28 00:01:14,866 --> 00:01:17,406 ♪ ♪ 29 00:01:23,834 --> 00:01:25,464 -CHARLES: Hey, Paul. -COTE: Hey, how’s it going? 30 00:01:25,586 --> 00:01:27,626 -CHARLES: Good. How are you? -All right. 31 00:01:27,713 --> 00:01:29,803 -You’re grabbing again? -Yeah. 32 00:01:29,923 --> 00:01:31,303 -Back at her. -Okay. -Good. 33 00:01:31,425 --> 00:01:33,015 Why don’t we go in under the tent 34 00:01:33,135 --> 00:01:34,225 -and have a look at the camera? -COTE: Yeah, sure. 35 00:01:34,303 --> 00:01:36,103 Let’s go. Get out of the rain. 36 00:01:36,179 --> 00:01:39,139 NARRATOR: Despite the chilly North Atlantic weather, 37 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:42,686 another exciting morning has arrived on Oak Island 38 00:01:42,811 --> 00:01:44,851 for brothers Rick and Marty Lagina 39 00:01:44,980 --> 00:01:46,520 and the members of their team. 40 00:01:46,648 --> 00:01:47,978 How deep is the grab there right now? 41 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:50,028 Somewhere around 73 feet. 42 00:01:50,152 --> 00:01:51,442 SCOTT: So, how deep will you go now? 43 00:01:51,528 --> 00:01:54,358 COTE: Uh, close to 80 feet. 44 00:01:54,489 --> 00:01:57,199 NARRATOR: In the fabled Money Pit area, 45 00:01:57,326 --> 00:01:59,826 representatives from Dumas Contracting Limited 46 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:03,503 are now cleaning out and preparing to refurbish 47 00:02:03,582 --> 00:02:06,542 the final ten feet of a mysterious structure 48 00:02:06,668 --> 00:02:08,958 known as the Garden Shaft. 49 00:02:09,755 --> 00:02:11,555 Although the decaying feature 50 00:02:11,673 --> 00:02:15,893 is only 82 feet deep, it has provided Rick, 51 00:02:16,011 --> 00:02:19,011 Marty, and the team with a number of stunning clues 52 00:02:19,097 --> 00:02:23,347 that suggest it may be related to the original Money Pit. 53 00:02:24,311 --> 00:02:27,521 These include the dating results from wood fragments, 54 00:02:27,648 --> 00:02:30,398 which indicate the structure may have been built 55 00:02:30,525 --> 00:02:33,185 as early as 1735. 56 00:02:33,278 --> 00:02:35,608 But even more astonishing 57 00:02:35,697 --> 00:02:38,197 is the fact that scientific analysis 58 00:02:38,283 --> 00:02:41,083 conducted on both wood and water samples 59 00:02:41,203 --> 00:02:43,503 taken from more than 50 feet deep 60 00:02:43,580 --> 00:02:46,710 have revealed high trace evidence of gold. 61 00:02:46,792 --> 00:02:49,712 So, Charles, we were down there and you could see that 62 00:02:49,795 --> 00:02:52,715 that north corner is really sunk down significantly. 63 00:02:52,839 --> 00:02:54,589 They must’ve had some softer ground there. 64 00:02:54,716 --> 00:02:56,376 That stuff that wouldn’t hold together too, too well. 65 00:02:56,510 --> 00:02:57,930 CHARLES: Yeah. 66 00:02:58,053 --> 00:03:01,063 So, we have this hole over beside you, DN-11.5. 67 00:03:01,181 --> 00:03:03,271 It’s one of the three holes that we’ve had 68 00:03:03,392 --> 00:03:04,732 consecutive wood hits there, you know, 69 00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:06,560 for a tunnel depth of about 95 feet. 70 00:03:06,687 --> 00:03:08,477 And then that tunnel that’s there seems to be 71 00:03:08,563 --> 00:03:10,233 trending towards the north corner of the shaft. 72 00:03:10,357 --> 00:03:11,567 COTE: Yeah. 73 00:03:11,650 --> 00:03:13,070 TEDFORD: Oh, man. 74 00:03:14,403 --> 00:03:15,533 Broke through something. 75 00:03:15,612 --> 00:03:17,242 NARRATOR: One month ago, 76 00:03:17,322 --> 00:03:19,992 the team was conducting a core drilling operation 77 00:03:20,075 --> 00:03:23,045 approximately 20 feet west of the Garden Shaft 78 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,040 in an area known as the Baby Blob. 79 00:03:26,123 --> 00:03:30,293 It is here where geoscientist Dr. Ian Spooner 80 00:03:30,419 --> 00:03:33,629 and hydrogeologist Dr. Fred Michel believe 81 00:03:33,755 --> 00:03:35,465 the Money Pit treasure vault 82 00:03:35,590 --> 00:03:40,140 may be buried between 80 and 120 feet underground. 83 00:03:40,262 --> 00:03:42,642 This DN-11.5 84 00:03:42,764 --> 00:03:47,894 really seems to line up DN-12.5 and DN-13.5 85 00:03:47,978 --> 00:03:50,308 all in that east-west alignment. 86 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:55,489 NARRATOR: Incredibly, the team encountered a tunnel at a depth of 95 feet 87 00:03:55,610 --> 00:03:58,530 that not only contains high trace evidence of gold 88 00:03:58,613 --> 00:04:00,993 but also appears to be heading 89 00:04:01,116 --> 00:04:03,786 almost directly beneath the Garden Shaft. 90 00:04:04,786 --> 00:04:05,996 We’re all excited. 91 00:04:06,121 --> 00:04:07,461 Every day, this shaft goes deeper, 92 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:09,961 and to us, you know, it’s one step closer 93 00:04:10,041 --> 00:04:11,421 to a better understanding of where this gold 94 00:04:11,501 --> 00:04:12,631 -is coming from. -Yeah. 95 00:04:13,503 --> 00:04:15,173 NARRATOR: Is it possible that 96 00:04:15,297 --> 00:04:16,707 when the reconstruction of the Garden Shaft 97 00:04:16,798 --> 00:04:18,968 is completed several weeks from now, 98 00:04:19,092 --> 00:04:21,512 the team will finally be 99 00:04:21,636 --> 00:04:23,846 within reach of the legendary treasure 100 00:04:23,972 --> 00:04:27,352 people have been looking for since 1795? 101 00:04:28,602 --> 00:04:30,022 MARTY: What I’m really after, 102 00:04:30,145 --> 00:04:31,815 and what the team is really after, 103 00:04:31,897 --> 00:04:34,227 is what’s at the bottom of that shaft. (chuckles) 104 00:04:34,316 --> 00:04:36,816 What is directly at the bottom? 105 00:04:36,943 --> 00:04:38,903 What is five feet below the bottom? 106 00:04:38,987 --> 00:04:40,067 What’s ten feet below the bottom? 107 00:04:40,155 --> 00:04:41,705 What’s off to either side of it? 108 00:04:41,823 --> 00:04:43,703 That’s what we want that shaft for, 109 00:04:43,825 --> 00:04:45,325 ’cause there are a lot of things that, 110 00:04:45,452 --> 00:04:48,962 that point to that area being in the treasure zone. 111 00:04:50,248 --> 00:04:52,878 SCOTT: Now, we-we’ve done a lot of work in the Money Pit area. 112 00:04:53,001 --> 00:04:55,551 This area has our interest right now because 113 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:58,670 it seems no matter what we’re into in this area, 114 00:04:58,757 --> 00:05:00,627 whether it’s wood or water or soil, 115 00:05:00,717 --> 00:05:01,837 we’re getting gold. 116 00:05:01,927 --> 00:05:03,217 I’ll let you know when I find it. 117 00:05:03,345 --> 00:05:04,855 -(all laughing) -As long as you do. 118 00:05:06,348 --> 00:05:10,348 NARRATOR: As the reconstruction of the Garden Shaft continues... 119 00:05:11,686 --> 00:05:14,226 JACK: Oh, wow. There’s some sort of a feature here, too. 120 00:05:14,356 --> 00:05:16,186 -LAIRD: It looks good, eh? -JACK: Yeah. 121 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:18,226 NARRATOR: ...in the northeast section 122 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,650 of the triangle-shaped swamp... 123 00:05:20,737 --> 00:05:22,907 LAIRD: We’re looking for the edge there. 124 00:05:23,031 --> 00:05:24,621 So it looks like it falls off. 125 00:05:24,699 --> 00:05:26,619 ...Rick Lagina, Craig Tester, 126 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:29,201 and other members of the team 127 00:05:29,287 --> 00:05:31,497 are investigating another man-made feature 128 00:05:31,581 --> 00:05:35,251 that they believe could help solve the Oak Island mystery. 129 00:05:35,377 --> 00:05:39,297 Do those rocks seem to be in place pretty firmly? 130 00:05:39,381 --> 00:05:40,971 These ones? Yes. 131 00:05:41,049 --> 00:05:42,929 These ones are solid. 132 00:05:43,051 --> 00:05:45,181 NARRATOR: After receiving the data 133 00:05:45,262 --> 00:05:47,392 from a recent magnetometer survey 134 00:05:47,472 --> 00:05:50,562 conducted by geoscientist Jeremy Church, 135 00:05:50,684 --> 00:05:55,104 which identified a number of potential metallic anomalies, 136 00:05:55,230 --> 00:05:58,980 the team drained the swamp and began excavating an area 137 00:05:59,067 --> 00:06:00,857 in the northeastern region. 138 00:06:00,944 --> 00:06:05,244 Although no metal objects have been found as of yet, 139 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:09,115 Rick and members of the team were stunned when they uncovered 140 00:06:09,244 --> 00:06:11,084 a ramp of stones... 141 00:06:11,162 --> 00:06:12,872 LAIRD: Do you see the white tops? 142 00:06:12,956 --> 00:06:14,416 Yeah, that’s a lot of cobble. 143 00:06:14,541 --> 00:06:16,331 ...that they believe could be connected 144 00:06:16,418 --> 00:06:18,588 to the so-called paved area-- 145 00:06:18,712 --> 00:06:24,382 a massive stone feature that was first uncovered in 2019 146 00:06:24,467 --> 00:06:28,097 and which was scientifically dated to 1200 AD. 147 00:06:28,221 --> 00:06:30,261 ♪ ♪ 148 00:06:31,433 --> 00:06:33,813 -We’re starting to see some stuff. -LAIRD: Yeah. 149 00:06:33,935 --> 00:06:35,935 It does have a nice, gentle slope, though, doesn’t it? 150 00:06:36,062 --> 00:06:39,572 NARRATOR: Now, the team is hoping to find more clues 151 00:06:39,649 --> 00:06:42,489 that will help determine not only the feature’s purpose 152 00:06:42,611 --> 00:06:46,361 but also if it is related to something of great value. 153 00:06:46,448 --> 00:06:48,448 RICK: We all have interest in the swamp 154 00:06:48,575 --> 00:06:51,295 to lesser or greater degrees. (chuckles) 155 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:53,791 But we are very interested in conducting the work. 156 00:06:53,914 --> 00:06:55,624 (grunts) 157 00:06:55,707 --> 00:06:57,247 RICK: There’s every bit 158 00:06:57,334 --> 00:07:00,174 of, certainly, logic and some sort of hope 159 00:07:00,295 --> 00:07:03,425 that there’s some connectivity between the EM data 160 00:07:03,506 --> 00:07:07,926 Jeremy has interpreted and this inclined rock feature. 161 00:07:08,011 --> 00:07:10,641 I believe the swamp still has some answers. 162 00:07:10,764 --> 00:07:13,274 It still has some significant reveals. 163 00:07:15,310 --> 00:07:16,390 -Hey. -Hey, guys. 164 00:07:16,478 --> 00:07:18,348 I’m gonna have to leave 165 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,480 -and go do some permitting work, but... -MIRIAM: Okay. 166 00:07:20,565 --> 00:07:22,855 LAIRD: This is what they call the ramp. 167 00:07:23,777 --> 00:07:26,527 It’s sloping slightly up to the stone path, 168 00:07:26,655 --> 00:07:27,955 -which you know... -Okay. 169 00:07:28,031 --> 00:07:29,871 -...way too intimately, right? -Yeah. 170 00:07:29,991 --> 00:07:31,701 LAIRD: We have some nice consolidated rocks in here. 171 00:07:31,826 --> 00:07:33,536 MIRIAM: Yeah. 172 00:07:33,662 --> 00:07:36,372 Craig’s finding some evidence of disturbance in here. 173 00:07:36,498 --> 00:07:38,498 -CRAIG: Yeah. -MIRIAM: Okay. 174 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:41,505 All right. Good luck, guys. 175 00:07:41,628 --> 00:07:43,838 I’m still on the structure right now, 176 00:07:43,964 --> 00:07:47,474 even though I’m under the mud, I’m on firm ground, 177 00:07:47,550 --> 00:07:51,350 and there’s rocks at a slope right here, so it keeps going. 178 00:07:52,305 --> 00:07:53,885 MIRIAM: This definitely needs to be cleared off 179 00:07:54,015 --> 00:07:56,635 before we can do any sort of actual excavation. 180 00:07:56,726 --> 00:07:58,726 So it would be great if we could take all of this off 181 00:07:58,853 --> 00:08:01,193 -and actually get a good look at it. -RICK: Mm-hmm. 182 00:08:01,272 --> 00:08:02,522 I agree with you. 183 00:08:02,607 --> 00:08:04,607 Until we get down, eyes and boots, 184 00:08:04,693 --> 00:08:06,613 hands and knees, we’re not gonna really 185 00:08:06,695 --> 00:08:07,905 understand it. 186 00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:10,449 Okay. Let’s keep digging. 187 00:08:10,532 --> 00:08:12,872 CRAIG: Okay, sounds good. 188 00:08:13,743 --> 00:08:15,663 NARRATOR: While operations continue 189 00:08:15,745 --> 00:08:18,495 in the Money Pit area and in the swamp... 190 00:08:18,581 --> 00:08:21,171 GARY: Love it. Back on Lot 5. 191 00:08:21,251 --> 00:08:22,591 JACK: Oh, yeah. 192 00:08:22,711 --> 00:08:24,341 NARRATOR: ...Jack Begley has joined 193 00:08:24,421 --> 00:08:26,671 metal detection expert Gary Drayton 194 00:08:26,756 --> 00:08:30,926 at Lot 5 on the western side of the island. 195 00:08:31,052 --> 00:08:33,222 Let’s find everything we can. 196 00:08:33,346 --> 00:08:35,466 All right, mate, you ready to dig some history up? 197 00:08:35,557 --> 00:08:36,887 JACK (chuckles): Always. 198 00:08:36,975 --> 00:08:39,605 -(musical beep) -GARY: Okay, mate. 199 00:08:39,728 --> 00:08:43,558 NARRATOR: This year, after purchasing Lot 5, 200 00:08:43,648 --> 00:08:45,268 Rick, Marty and the team 201 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,070 quickly made some of the most historic finds 202 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:51,114 in the history of the Oak Island treasure hunt. 203 00:08:51,948 --> 00:08:54,278 These include a stone structure 204 00:08:54,409 --> 00:08:56,489 that may date back to the same era 205 00:08:56,578 --> 00:08:58,578 as the Garden Shaft, 206 00:08:58,663 --> 00:09:02,753 tools that may be more than four centuries old, 207 00:09:02,876 --> 00:09:05,456 and half of a Roman coin 208 00:09:05,587 --> 00:09:10,467 that has been dated to as early as 300 BC. 209 00:09:11,342 --> 00:09:13,342 GARY: Bit of a choppy signal, but... 210 00:09:13,428 --> 00:09:16,598 MARTY: I think it’s beyond question that the acquisition 211 00:09:16,681 --> 00:09:19,481 of Lot 5 was a wise thing for the fellowship. 212 00:09:19,601 --> 00:09:22,601 Gary’s finding artifact after artifact. 213 00:09:22,729 --> 00:09:24,269 It has already, 214 00:09:24,355 --> 00:09:25,565 during the short period we’ve owned it, 215 00:09:25,648 --> 00:09:27,018 produced definitely some of 216 00:09:27,108 --> 00:09:28,528 the oldest finds on Oak Island. 217 00:09:29,402 --> 00:09:32,412 -It’s a big old square nail. -Yeah. 218 00:09:32,489 --> 00:09:36,829 This one would be maybe late 1700s. 219 00:09:36,951 --> 00:09:38,741 MARTY: Lot 5 could maybe 220 00:09:38,828 --> 00:09:40,578 fill in a piece of the puzzle 221 00:09:40,663 --> 00:09:43,673 as to where the people were who built the Money Pit. 222 00:09:43,792 --> 00:09:45,172 Maybe they were on Lot 5. 223 00:09:45,293 --> 00:09:48,053 Those dots have certainly not been connected yet. 224 00:09:48,129 --> 00:09:50,799 That’s why we need to keep looking. 225 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,840 All right, next target we ain’t got to go very far for. 226 00:09:54,969 --> 00:09:55,969 Thanks. 227 00:09:56,096 --> 00:09:57,676 (both chuckling) 228 00:09:57,806 --> 00:09:59,766 (intermittent beeping) 229 00:10:00,642 --> 00:10:02,312 So yeah. Just dig a hole, mate. 230 00:10:02,393 --> 00:10:03,643 JACK: Mm-hmm. 231 00:10:05,313 --> 00:10:07,983 GARY: Dang. You’re a beast, mate. 232 00:10:08,108 --> 00:10:09,688 (grunts) 233 00:10:09,818 --> 00:10:11,028 (sniffles) 234 00:10:12,570 --> 00:10:14,200 ♪ ♪ 235 00:10:18,493 --> 00:10:20,493 JACK: It’s still in there. 236 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:23,084 Try and find it. 237 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:27,705 (beeping rapidly) 238 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:33,337 It’s in my hand. 239 00:10:33,466 --> 00:10:35,336 Let’s see what we’ve got. 240 00:10:35,468 --> 00:10:37,508 (steady beeping) 241 00:10:37,595 --> 00:10:38,545 (gasps) 242 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:39,890 (laughing) 243 00:10:40,014 --> 00:10:41,524 GARY: What have we got, mate? 244 00:10:45,228 --> 00:10:46,808 GARY: What have we got, mate? 245 00:10:46,896 --> 00:10:48,186 -That looks like an old coin. -Yeah. You see that? 246 00:10:48,273 --> 00:10:50,023 That nice and round shape? 247 00:10:50,108 --> 00:10:52,898 Please, please, please, be a coin. 248 00:10:53,027 --> 00:10:54,197 I’m gonna pull it out. 249 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:55,909 Look how round it is. 250 00:10:57,073 --> 00:10:58,533 Ooh... 251 00:10:59,784 --> 00:11:01,834 It’s lead. 252 00:11:01,911 --> 00:11:04,961 NARRATOR: On Lot 5 on the western side of Oak Island, 253 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:08,919 Gary Drayton and Jack Begley have just unearthed 254 00:11:09,043 --> 00:11:11,923 a potentially important artifact. 255 00:11:12,046 --> 00:11:14,126 Well, it’s so ornate for lead. 256 00:11:14,215 --> 00:11:16,045 GARY: Yeah, it’s got a scalloped edge. 257 00:11:16,134 --> 00:11:18,894 That is really, really unusual, mate. 258 00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:20,392 -Can I see it? -That is unusual. 259 00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:21,763 (blows) 260 00:11:21,890 --> 00:11:23,390 GARY: It’s nice and heavy, isn’t it? 261 00:11:23,474 --> 00:11:24,814 -JACK: Oh, yeah. -GARY: But why would anyone 262 00:11:24,893 --> 00:11:26,563 make something like that? 263 00:11:26,686 --> 00:11:29,726 Now, it could be like a token, mate. 264 00:11:29,856 --> 00:11:31,686 That is nice. 265 00:11:31,774 --> 00:11:34,404 I mean, I’ve found tokens 266 00:11:34,485 --> 00:11:37,235 that go all the way back to Roman days. 267 00:11:37,322 --> 00:11:39,992 I’ve actually found Roman tokens. 268 00:11:40,074 --> 00:11:45,004 And we have found a Roman coin right here on Lot 5 behind us. 269 00:11:45,079 --> 00:11:46,409 JACK: Mm-hmm. 270 00:11:46,539 --> 00:11:48,039 NARRATOR: A possible lead token 271 00:11:48,124 --> 00:11:50,084 found on Lot 5? 272 00:11:51,169 --> 00:11:54,879 Originating more than 2,000 years ago in Ancient Rome, 273 00:11:54,964 --> 00:11:57,514 trade tokens were coin-like objects 274 00:11:57,592 --> 00:12:01,892 made with various kinds of metal and even nonmetallic materials 275 00:12:01,971 --> 00:12:04,601 that were issued by private entities 276 00:12:04,682 --> 00:12:07,482 rather than official governments to be used 277 00:12:07,602 --> 00:12:10,192 in place of sanctioned currency. 278 00:12:10,271 --> 00:12:13,321 Although many cultures have issued their own forms 279 00:12:13,441 --> 00:12:15,941 of trade tokens throughout history... 280 00:12:16,027 --> 00:12:18,737 Now we’re adding to the lead database 281 00:12:18,821 --> 00:12:20,071 ’cause this is special. 282 00:12:20,156 --> 00:12:22,066 NARRATOR: ...could Gary Drayton be correct 283 00:12:22,158 --> 00:12:26,118 that this believed trade token is related to the Roman coin 284 00:12:26,204 --> 00:12:28,794 found on Lot 5 earlier this year? 285 00:12:28,873 --> 00:12:32,923 But if so, who brought them to Oak Island? 286 00:12:33,002 --> 00:12:35,592 Whenever we find lead, mate, I get excited 287 00:12:35,672 --> 00:12:38,722 ’cause sometimes you get some pretty amazing results. 288 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,300 And I like the rare, unique finds 289 00:12:41,427 --> 00:12:43,797 -because they tell us more information. -Yeah. 290 00:12:43,888 --> 00:12:46,058 I say we take this back to the lab 291 00:12:46,140 --> 00:12:47,640 and get the archaeologists 292 00:12:47,725 --> 00:12:49,555 checking this out and working on it. 293 00:12:49,644 --> 00:12:50,734 JACK: I agree. 294 00:12:50,812 --> 00:12:52,312 GARY: All right, mate. 295 00:12:52,397 --> 00:12:54,937 This could be a very important artifact. 296 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:57,654 NARRATOR: Following their discovery on Lot 5... 297 00:12:57,777 --> 00:12:58,987 -GARY: Gentlemen. -LAIRD: Hey. 298 00:12:59,112 --> 00:13:00,572 -RICK: Hey. -GARY: Hi, chaps. 299 00:13:00,655 --> 00:13:02,075 Back from Lot 5 300 00:13:02,156 --> 00:13:03,446 with another find. 301 00:13:03,533 --> 00:13:05,493 Smiles round the table. 302 00:13:05,576 --> 00:13:07,406 Yeah, wait till you see this. 303 00:13:07,495 --> 00:13:10,285 NARRATOR: ...Gary and Jack meet with Rick Lagina, 304 00:13:10,373 --> 00:13:13,503 Craig Tester and archaeologist Laird Niven 305 00:13:13,584 --> 00:13:15,174 in the interpretive center. 306 00:13:15,253 --> 00:13:16,963 Okay, let’s see it. 307 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:20,969 Yeah, this is a nice piece of lead. 308 00:13:21,050 --> 00:13:23,930 -RICK: Mm. -GARY: And we’ve never seen it before. 309 00:13:25,430 --> 00:13:27,010 -Highly decorated... -Oh. 310 00:13:27,098 --> 00:13:29,018 GARY: ...scalloped around the edges. 311 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:31,020 JACK: It looks like there’s two holes punched through. 312 00:13:31,102 --> 00:13:33,942 Seems to be two holes, and it’s brittle, too. 313 00:13:34,022 --> 00:13:34,942 -JACK: Yeah. -It’s an old piece. 314 00:13:35,023 --> 00:13:36,483 Yeah. 315 00:13:36,566 --> 00:13:38,186 LAIRD: Fancy design here, but nothing... 316 00:13:38,276 --> 00:13:41,526 -seemingly on the face, right? -JACK: Yeah. 317 00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:42,994 And you’re certain that’s intentional? 318 00:13:43,072 --> 00:13:44,032 The scalloping? 319 00:13:44,157 --> 00:13:46,197 Yeah, definitely intentional. 320 00:13:46,284 --> 00:13:48,204 -Would have been molded, right? -Yeah. 321 00:13:48,286 --> 00:13:50,286 Poured into a mold, I would expect. 322 00:13:50,371 --> 00:13:53,121 GARY: Yeah, we thought maybe it could be a token. 323 00:13:53,207 --> 00:13:57,207 But, why put all that fancy design around it? 324 00:13:57,295 --> 00:14:00,345 LAIRD: No, that bears looking into, for sure. 325 00:14:00,423 --> 00:14:02,383 And I know it’s made of lead, mate, 326 00:14:02,508 --> 00:14:04,718 but can we do any scans on it? 327 00:14:04,802 --> 00:14:07,052 LAIRD: Yeah, so we can clean it gently, 328 00:14:07,138 --> 00:14:10,058 see if there’s anything we can bring out on it. 329 00:14:10,141 --> 00:14:13,391 And then I would think XRF. 330 00:14:13,478 --> 00:14:14,898 Yeah. 331 00:14:14,979 --> 00:14:17,229 NARRATOR: After Laird cleans the artifact 332 00:14:17,315 --> 00:14:19,735 in order to determine its composition... 333 00:14:19,817 --> 00:14:22,067 -Can I take a look? -Yes. 334 00:14:22,153 --> 00:14:24,783 NARRATOR: ...he will perform an extensive 24-hour scan of it 335 00:14:24,906 --> 00:14:27,906 using the team’s X-ray fluorescence device. 336 00:14:27,992 --> 00:14:30,912 By emitting nondestructive radiation, 337 00:14:30,995 --> 00:14:34,075 the XRF machine can identify the elements 338 00:14:34,165 --> 00:14:36,675 that are present in the object. 339 00:14:36,751 --> 00:14:41,171 This object has the potential to be quite revealing. 340 00:14:41,255 --> 00:14:43,255 It’s singularly unique-- 341 00:14:43,341 --> 00:14:45,381 we’ve not seen this item before. 342 00:14:45,468 --> 00:14:49,508 But we need to continue to persevere 343 00:14:49,597 --> 00:14:51,427 in trying to understand what this is. 344 00:14:51,516 --> 00:14:53,426 There’s only one thing left to do. 345 00:14:53,518 --> 00:14:55,098 That’s to go find more 346 00:14:55,186 --> 00:14:58,606 -on a very promising Lot 5. -Yeah. 347 00:14:58,689 --> 00:15:00,439 -RICK: Let’s go. -JACK: Go find more, yeah. 348 00:15:00,525 --> 00:15:02,075 -LAIRD: See you later. -GARY: See you later, guys. 349 00:15:02,151 --> 00:15:04,281 ♪ ♪ 350 00:15:06,864 --> 00:15:08,494 NARRATOR: The next morning... 351 00:15:08,616 --> 00:15:09,866 COTE: Going down. 352 00:15:09,951 --> 00:15:11,621 NARRATOR: ...as the reconstruction 353 00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:13,454 of the Garden Shaft continues... 354 00:15:14,288 --> 00:15:15,918 RICK: So everybody around the table 355 00:15:15,998 --> 00:15:17,828 knows how important I think research is. 356 00:15:17,959 --> 00:15:20,629 NARRATOR: Rick and Marty Lagina 357 00:15:20,711 --> 00:15:22,711 have assembled members of the team 358 00:15:22,797 --> 00:15:25,587 in the war room for a meeting with researchers Judi Rudebusch 359 00:15:25,675 --> 00:15:27,805 and Emiliano Sacchetti. 360 00:15:27,885 --> 00:15:29,005 Welcome you both. 361 00:15:29,137 --> 00:15:30,547 I think I’m gonna find 362 00:15:30,638 --> 00:15:33,598 today’s information highly, highly relevant. 363 00:15:33,683 --> 00:15:37,443 NARRATOR: In light of recent discoveries made on the island, 364 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,310 such as the stone ramp 365 00:15:39,397 --> 00:15:42,147 that may be related to the 12th century paved area 366 00:15:42,233 --> 00:15:43,823 in the swamp, 367 00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:46,991 and the stunning artifacts from Lot 5... 368 00:15:47,071 --> 00:15:48,821 Emiliano Sacchetti, 369 00:15:48,906 --> 00:15:51,196 who really leads the team in Italy. 370 00:15:51,325 --> 00:15:53,285 NARRATOR: ...Rick has arranged for Emiliano 371 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:55,659 to personally present new information, 372 00:15:55,746 --> 00:15:57,406 which he believes 373 00:15:57,498 --> 00:16:00,248 may be able to help explain their true origins. 374 00:16:01,002 --> 00:16:04,052 Emiliano was tasked initially 375 00:16:04,172 --> 00:16:07,422 with a very specific request, 376 00:16:07,508 --> 00:16:10,088 and that was to look into Zena’s material, 377 00:16:10,178 --> 00:16:11,928 i.e. the Cremona Document, 378 00:16:12,013 --> 00:16:14,143 the deposition by Ralph de Sudeley 379 00:16:14,223 --> 00:16:16,233 about his voyage to the New World. 380 00:16:17,226 --> 00:16:18,726 NARRATOR: In 1970, 381 00:16:18,853 --> 00:16:21,613 an astounding manuscript was discovered 382 00:16:21,689 --> 00:16:23,069 in the archives of a medieval church 383 00:16:23,191 --> 00:16:25,401 in the town of Cremona, Italy. 384 00:16:25,526 --> 00:16:29,446 Consisting of maps, ciphers and journal entries, 385 00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:33,120 the so-called Cremona Document is believed to have been created 386 00:16:33,201 --> 00:16:34,911 in the late 12th century 387 00:16:35,036 --> 00:16:36,866 by Ralph de Sudeley, 388 00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:40,456 an esteemed leader of the Knights Templar. 389 00:16:40,541 --> 00:16:42,711 According to his firsthand testimony, 390 00:16:42,835 --> 00:16:46,705 de Sudeley and others in the Christian military order 391 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:48,919 discovered priceless religious treasures 392 00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:51,050 in Jerusalem during the Crusades, 393 00:16:51,135 --> 00:16:53,295 including the golden menorah 394 00:16:53,387 --> 00:16:55,217 from King Solomon’s original temple 395 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:57,558 and the Holy Grail 396 00:16:57,642 --> 00:17:00,642 that were then smuggled to Seborga, Italy, 397 00:17:00,728 --> 00:17:03,478 before some of them were eventually transported 398 00:17:03,564 --> 00:17:06,484 across the Atlantic Ocean to the New World. 399 00:17:08,986 --> 00:17:11,196 To that point, Emiliano, Judi, 400 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,410 if you want to take over, 401 00:17:12,490 --> 00:17:14,030 really look forward to the day. 402 00:17:14,116 --> 00:17:17,156 So I will try to 403 00:17:17,245 --> 00:17:19,585 tell you about the last six months, 404 00:17:19,664 --> 00:17:21,584 seven months of research 405 00:17:21,666 --> 00:17:22,916 we carried out. 406 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:23,960 You know, of course, 407 00:17:24,085 --> 00:17:26,965 I read the Cremona Document, um... 408 00:17:27,088 --> 00:17:30,088 Seborga was an important principality. 409 00:17:30,174 --> 00:17:31,554 -Mm-hmm. -EMILIANO: Not on the sea. 410 00:17:31,634 --> 00:17:34,604 It’s up in the hill on a border with France. 411 00:17:34,679 --> 00:17:36,759 DOUG: It wasn’t far off to the Templars’ 412 00:17:36,847 --> 00:17:39,177 -pilgrimage route, though. -EMILIANO: No, it was not. 413 00:17:39,267 --> 00:17:41,637 It was right on that route. 414 00:17:42,770 --> 00:17:44,440 I think that it was 415 00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:48,114 not unlikely that Templars brought back relics 416 00:17:48,234 --> 00:17:49,944 from the Holy Land. 417 00:17:50,027 --> 00:17:51,197 -MARTY: Yeah. -ALEX: Mm-hmm. 418 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:52,859 -Yeah. -JUDI: Well, in the story, 419 00:17:52,947 --> 00:17:55,447 Ralph de Sudeley comes to America. 420 00:17:55,533 --> 00:17:56,783 EMILIANO: Oh, definitely. 421 00:17:56,867 --> 00:17:59,447 What I think is that the Templars, 422 00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:02,789 they had access to information 423 00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:08,245 from meeting voyagers, sailors, and meeting people, 424 00:18:08,337 --> 00:18:11,967 listening to, you know, travel voyages. 425 00:18:12,091 --> 00:18:16,301 And they had probably also the interest 426 00:18:16,387 --> 00:18:20,137 to sail across the Atlantic to North America. 427 00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:21,596 DOUG: The Cremona Document does say 428 00:18:21,684 --> 00:18:23,814 during their trip here to the New World, 429 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:25,976 they stopped at an island of oak. 430 00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:28,935 If the Templars came over to the New World, 431 00:18:29,025 --> 00:18:32,695 I’d say it’s, you know, this would be probably where 432 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:34,070 one of the places they stopped. 433 00:18:34,155 --> 00:18:37,915 But that happened 1178. 434 00:18:37,992 --> 00:18:41,702 Templars’ histories has 150 years more. 435 00:18:41,829 --> 00:18:44,499 In the beginning of the 14th century, 436 00:18:44,582 --> 00:18:48,002 Templars in that very time were fleeing Europe-- 437 00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:52,167 because the France king witch hunt-- 438 00:18:52,256 --> 00:18:57,176 were able to once again sail across the Atlantic. 439 00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:00,100 NARRATOR: In 1307, 440 00:19:00,181 --> 00:19:04,351 after more than 150 years of serving the Catholic Church, 441 00:19:04,435 --> 00:19:09,485 Pope Clement V conspired with King Philip IV 442 00:19:09,565 --> 00:19:13,395 to disband and persecute the Templar Order. 443 00:19:13,527 --> 00:19:15,697 Although the charge was heresy, 444 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:18,370 many believe the true reason for the betrayal 445 00:19:18,491 --> 00:19:22,041 centered on an attempt to seize their holy treasures. 446 00:19:22,161 --> 00:19:24,831 Many knights were arrested, 447 00:19:24,914 --> 00:19:28,214 tortured and executed. 448 00:19:28,292 --> 00:19:31,922 However, it is believed that some escaped 449 00:19:32,046 --> 00:19:34,716 and fled with the remains of their vast treasure 450 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,050 to various European nations, 451 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,046 including Portugal, 452 00:19:39,136 --> 00:19:42,886 Scotland, England, and Italy, 453 00:19:43,015 --> 00:19:46,725 before possibly returning to North America. 454 00:19:46,852 --> 00:19:50,732 Templars had a massive amount of money that went missing 455 00:19:50,815 --> 00:19:53,075 -around their fall. -Yeah. 456 00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:55,240 And if they did sail across 457 00:19:55,319 --> 00:19:57,449 the Atlantic Ocean over to America, 458 00:19:57,571 --> 00:19:59,571 what would the point have been? 459 00:19:59,699 --> 00:20:01,329 Were they taking 460 00:20:01,409 --> 00:20:05,119 that treasure as far away from Europe as they could, 461 00:20:05,246 --> 00:20:07,746 all those religious treasures, 462 00:20:07,832 --> 00:20:09,632 and transport them across the Atlantic 463 00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:10,880 and deposit them here? 464 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,090 Right. 465 00:20:12,169 --> 00:20:13,709 ALEX: That kind of reinforces the idea 466 00:20:13,796 --> 00:20:15,456 that maybe the Templars did this, right? 467 00:20:15,589 --> 00:20:17,469 Because if they were fleeing, 468 00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:19,721 then all of a sudden the idea that you’re going somewhere 469 00:20:19,802 --> 00:20:21,932 is not as scary ’cause you can’t go back. 470 00:20:22,012 --> 00:20:23,562 Yeah. 471 00:20:23,639 --> 00:20:25,429 EMILIANO: If this is true, 472 00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:28,596 we have two Templar voyages to America 473 00:20:28,686 --> 00:20:31,606 between the 11th and the 14th century-- 474 00:20:31,731 --> 00:20:34,901 about 150 years before Columbus. 475 00:20:34,984 --> 00:20:36,944 ♪ ♪ 476 00:20:38,112 --> 00:20:39,612 MARTY: Fantastic. 477 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,370 EMILIANO: If this is true, 478 00:20:45,453 --> 00:20:46,953 we have two Templar voyages 479 00:20:47,037 --> 00:20:51,077 to America between the 11th and the 14th century. 480 00:20:52,209 --> 00:20:55,249 150 years before Columbus. 481 00:20:55,337 --> 00:20:56,837 NARRATOR: In the war room, 482 00:20:56,964 --> 00:20:59,554 Italian researcher Emiliano Sacchetti 483 00:20:59,633 --> 00:21:02,093 has just presented Rick, Marty, 484 00:21:02,178 --> 00:21:05,558 Craig and members of the team information suggesting 485 00:21:05,639 --> 00:21:07,929 that the medieval order of the Knights Templar 486 00:21:08,017 --> 00:21:09,727 may have made multiple journeys 487 00:21:09,810 --> 00:21:12,100 to Oak Island for the purpose of hiding 488 00:21:12,188 --> 00:21:14,608 their accumulated treasures. 489 00:21:15,608 --> 00:21:19,238 So until now, there was no evidence that anyone-- 490 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,070 outside Scandinavian people-- 491 00:21:21,155 --> 00:21:24,415 knew about America before Columbus. 492 00:21:24,492 --> 00:21:26,082 -Mm-hmm. -EMILIANO: I say until now 493 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,660 because last summer, 494 00:21:27,745 --> 00:21:31,375 an Italian professor managed to find 495 00:21:31,499 --> 00:21:32,669 a manuscript. 496 00:21:32,750 --> 00:21:35,750 A manuscript that is dated 1340 497 00:21:35,836 --> 00:21:37,746 and was written by 498 00:21:37,838 --> 00:21:40,668 a Milanese friar called Galvano Fiamma. 499 00:21:41,675 --> 00:21:43,005 According to the manuscript, 500 00:21:43,093 --> 00:21:44,683 in the beginning of the 14th century, 501 00:21:44,762 --> 00:21:48,022 150 years before Columbus voyage, 502 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:50,270 people knew about America. 503 00:21:50,351 --> 00:21:53,271 The manuscript contains maps as well. 504 00:21:53,354 --> 00:21:55,564 Does the manuscript have a name? 505 00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:58,189 Yeah, it’s called Cronica Universalis. 506 00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:01,147 So what I asked myself is, 507 00:22:01,237 --> 00:22:05,157 where the author found the information about this? 508 00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:07,531 So he managed to find 509 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:12,290 one of the greatest cartographer of that era, 510 00:22:12,373 --> 00:22:15,963 John of Carignano, who was in touch 511 00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:19,213 with sailors, with merchants, with clerics, 512 00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:20,838 with pilgrims, 513 00:22:20,923 --> 00:22:25,013 even Templars because he was there. 514 00:22:26,011 --> 00:22:28,811 So what we can conclude 515 00:22:28,889 --> 00:22:31,639 is that the Italians and the Templars 516 00:22:31,725 --> 00:22:34,225 knew about America way before Columbus. 517 00:22:36,605 --> 00:22:38,815 You’re quite sure, though, that 518 00:22:38,899 --> 00:22:42,649 the capability in terms of the ships and the knowledge 519 00:22:42,736 --> 00:22:45,446 of the Americas was known... 520 00:22:45,573 --> 00:22:47,663 -Yeah. -...long before 521 00:22:47,741 --> 00:22:49,491 conventional historians agree? 522 00:22:49,577 --> 00:22:52,497 Well, this again is an ongoing work 523 00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:55,330 and I really hope that we can bring 524 00:22:55,416 --> 00:22:57,576 more evidences in the next few months. 525 00:22:57,668 --> 00:23:03,088 We have immense respect for what Zena helped bring to the fore. 526 00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:06,005 And I mean, she would be-- 527 00:23:06,093 --> 00:23:09,103 Judi, she would be ecstatic about that find, correct? 528 00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:11,771 Pre-Columbian voyages to the New World. 529 00:23:11,849 --> 00:23:14,769 -That was her-- -That was her, that was her first love. 530 00:23:16,353 --> 00:23:18,313 RICK: I do believe that on the island 531 00:23:18,439 --> 00:23:21,649 work was done at different times, but to one agenda. 532 00:23:21,775 --> 00:23:26,605 Because we have carbon dates from late 1100s, early 1200s, 533 00:23:26,739 --> 00:23:29,279 up to the 1600s, 1700s. 534 00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:34,248 The work could have been done in, in stages. 535 00:23:34,330 --> 00:23:35,910 But if this thing becomes proven, 536 00:23:35,998 --> 00:23:38,418 would sort of have a worldwide impact. 537 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:42,340 I am quoting the exact word of this professor when I say 538 00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:47,433 that he refers to this manuscript as, uh... 539 00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:50,888 ...the source of an astonishing revelation. 540 00:23:50,971 --> 00:23:53,011 NARRATOR: Is it really possible 541 00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:55,140 that members of the Knights Templar 542 00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:57,387 were behind the Oak Island mystery? 543 00:23:57,478 --> 00:24:00,438 Could that explain some of the ancient discoveries 544 00:24:00,522 --> 00:24:02,072 that the team has made, 545 00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:05,149 like the 12th century paved area in the swamp, 546 00:24:05,277 --> 00:24:09,867 the Roman half coin, or the 14th century lead cross? 547 00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:13,080 If so, then just what might be the source 548 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,290 of all the high trace evidence of gold 549 00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:18,621 that has been detected deep in the Money Pit area? 550 00:24:18,707 --> 00:24:21,377 My next move is to fly to Milan 551 00:24:21,502 --> 00:24:25,762 and try to take a look at this manuscript. 552 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:27,509 And then another good news is that... 553 00:24:28,676 --> 00:24:30,506 ...I just received confirmation 554 00:24:30,594 --> 00:24:35,524 that I am admitted into the Vatican archives. 555 00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:39,137 Can you imagine what that will bring to our research? 556 00:24:39,228 --> 00:24:40,348 -Mm-hmm. -Per year. 557 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:41,939 ♪ ♪ 558 00:24:42,022 --> 00:24:45,072 It’s a fabulously unique opportunity. 559 00:24:45,192 --> 00:24:47,442 I think Zena Halpern, in particular, 560 00:24:47,528 --> 00:24:49,108 would have been ecstatic, 561 00:24:49,196 --> 00:24:51,356 over-the-top giddy with that information 562 00:24:51,448 --> 00:24:53,118 because the focus of her work 563 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,870 was pre-Columbian voyages to the New World. 564 00:24:58,038 --> 00:24:59,618 We need to continue to pursue 565 00:24:59,707 --> 00:25:02,787 not only that work but all the research activities 566 00:25:02,876 --> 00:25:04,876 we are currently conducting. 567 00:25:05,004 --> 00:25:06,924 There is certainly information out there, 568 00:25:07,047 --> 00:25:08,717 and we couldn’t move this forward without you. 569 00:25:08,841 --> 00:25:11,091 So thank you very much. 570 00:25:11,218 --> 00:25:12,548 Thank you, guys. 571 00:25:12,636 --> 00:25:13,546 -You’re welcome. -(overlapping chatter) 572 00:25:13,679 --> 00:25:14,259 Thanks for the information. 573 00:25:14,388 --> 00:25:15,968 Thanks for the hard work. 574 00:25:16,056 --> 00:25:17,716 We look forward to more discoveries. 575 00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:19,140 RICK: Really appreciate it. 576 00:25:19,226 --> 00:25:20,766 Thank you. 577 00:25:21,729 --> 00:25:23,729 NARRATOR: Later that afternoon... 578 00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:25,646 LAIRD: Here it is. 579 00:25:25,733 --> 00:25:27,783 All right, here we be. 580 00:25:27,901 --> 00:25:29,281 Yeah. 581 00:25:29,403 --> 00:25:31,953 NARRATOR: ...Rick, Marty, and Alex Lagina 582 00:25:32,072 --> 00:25:33,452 had been asked to join 583 00:25:33,574 --> 00:25:35,834 Laird Niven on Lot 5, near the area 584 00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:39,329 where the lead token and the Roman coin were found. 585 00:25:39,413 --> 00:25:43,083 Here, they will inspect a mysterious structure 586 00:25:43,167 --> 00:25:46,747 that Laird recalls being shown nearly two decades ago 587 00:25:46,879 --> 00:25:49,089 by the late Robert Young, 588 00:25:49,173 --> 00:25:51,513 who was the property’s previous owner. 589 00:25:51,592 --> 00:25:53,182 What is this, Laird? 590 00:25:53,260 --> 00:25:55,600 LAIRD: So I got a call from Robert Young 591 00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:59,179 over 20 years ago to come out and look at Lot 5, 592 00:25:59,266 --> 00:26:01,016 and he did show me this, 593 00:26:01,101 --> 00:26:05,231 but I thought it was something like the cellar for a barn. 594 00:26:05,314 --> 00:26:06,694 -Oh. -Hmm. 595 00:26:06,774 --> 00:26:08,364 MARTY: It’s almost perfectly circular. 596 00:26:08,442 --> 00:26:09,732 LAIRD: I know. (chuckles) 597 00:26:09,818 --> 00:26:11,568 NARRATOR: Although little is known 598 00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:13,453 about the history of Lot 5, 599 00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:17,742 it was used as farmland in the early 19th century, 600 00:26:17,826 --> 00:26:21,866 shortly after the discovery of the Money Pit in 1795. 601 00:26:21,955 --> 00:26:27,705 In 1996, Robert Young purchased it from his friend Fred Nolan, 602 00:26:27,795 --> 00:26:30,215 and over the following two decades, 603 00:26:30,297 --> 00:26:34,007 he reported finding a number of historic artifacts, 604 00:26:34,134 --> 00:26:39,684 including 14th century coins, before his passing in 2020. 605 00:26:40,641 --> 00:26:43,351 Is it possible that this circular stone feature 606 00:26:43,477 --> 00:26:47,397 was simply created by 19th century homesteaders? 607 00:26:47,481 --> 00:26:50,401 Or might it predate the discovery of the Money Pit 608 00:26:50,484 --> 00:26:53,824 and perhaps be related to the other ancient discoveries 609 00:26:53,904 --> 00:26:56,244 recently made in this area? 610 00:26:56,323 --> 00:27:00,123 We do know that Robert Young found quite a bit of things, 611 00:27:00,202 --> 00:27:01,952 quite a bit of significant items 612 00:27:02,037 --> 00:27:03,907 on Lot 5. 613 00:27:03,997 --> 00:27:05,707 But I thought he would have picked it cleaner than he did. 614 00:27:05,833 --> 00:27:07,883 There seems to be a lot of stuff left. 615 00:27:08,001 --> 00:27:09,881 And Lot 5 could be... 616 00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:13,013 it could be a piece of the puzzle that we were missing. 617 00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:15,682 Well, that brings us to the obvious question-- 618 00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:16,969 what happened on this lot? 619 00:27:17,052 --> 00:27:18,762 LAIRD: The first record we have, 620 00:27:18,846 --> 00:27:20,806 I think Allen said, was 1819. 621 00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:25,015 We’ve often been puzzled by the inconsistency 622 00:27:25,102 --> 00:27:27,152 between massive works over here 623 00:27:27,229 --> 00:27:29,399 and no evidence of the people who did it. 624 00:27:29,523 --> 00:27:32,613 Maybe this lot will give us some of those answers. 625 00:27:32,693 --> 00:27:36,703 RICK: It’s a unique structure found on a lot that has 626 00:27:36,822 --> 00:27:39,702 presented all kinds of unique finds. 627 00:27:39,825 --> 00:27:41,795 We have found artifacts 628 00:27:41,869 --> 00:27:43,539 that predate the discovery of the Money Pit 629 00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:45,002 by half a century or more. 630 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,120 This possibly could be depositional work. 631 00:27:48,208 --> 00:27:49,958 MARTY: Are you gonna do a pit in here? 632 00:27:50,043 --> 00:27:50,963 -Oh, yeah, absolutely. -MARTY: Okay. 633 00:27:51,044 --> 00:27:52,464 Yeah, we can do that. 634 00:27:52,546 --> 00:27:54,296 If nothing else, just cut it a section, 635 00:27:54,381 --> 00:27:56,421 see if we can determine what it used to be. 636 00:27:56,550 --> 00:27:58,930 MARTY: Right. I think this lot still has some secrets-- 637 00:27:59,052 --> 00:28:00,642 relevant secrets. 638 00:28:00,721 --> 00:28:03,181 Does it have anything to do with the activities 639 00:28:03,265 --> 00:28:05,815 on the eastern drumlin and the Money Pit? 640 00:28:05,893 --> 00:28:08,313 Hopefully we’re gonna find out. 641 00:28:08,395 --> 00:28:14,975 -MARTY: We’ll get after it. -LAIRD: Time to get to work. 642 00:28:15,068 --> 00:28:17,198 NARRATOR: As a new day begins on Oak Island... 643 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:19,199 -RONNIE: Hello, Rick. -RICK: Hey. 644 00:28:19,281 --> 00:28:21,491 -RONNIE: How are you doing today, buddy? -Good, you? 645 00:28:21,575 --> 00:28:23,955 -Oh, you got the whole gang with you. -You bet. 646 00:28:24,077 --> 00:28:25,827 -Good to see you again. -CRAIG: Good to see you. 647 00:28:25,913 --> 00:28:27,463 NARRATOR: Rick Lagina, Craig Tester 648 00:28:27,581 --> 00:28:30,541 and Oak Island operations manager Scott Barlow 649 00:28:30,626 --> 00:28:32,666 arrive at the Money Pit area 650 00:28:32,753 --> 00:28:34,843 for an update on the reconstruction 651 00:28:34,922 --> 00:28:37,762 of the Garden Shaft. 652 00:28:37,841 --> 00:28:39,221 -How’s work going? -Good, we found something this morning 653 00:28:39,301 --> 00:28:41,181 -you guys might be interested in. -Oh, yeah? 654 00:28:41,261 --> 00:28:43,141 -You want to go grab it for him? -Yeah, sure. 655 00:28:43,263 --> 00:28:44,513 Crane operator got ahold of us, 656 00:28:44,598 --> 00:28:46,018 and he had a chunk of wood in there, 657 00:28:46,099 --> 00:28:47,429 and we went over and took a look at it. 658 00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,099 Looks like it might be a barrel or something. 659 00:28:49,186 --> 00:28:50,306 -Oh, nice. -Oh, really? 660 00:28:50,437 --> 00:28:51,647 Round-shaped barrel. 661 00:28:51,772 --> 00:28:53,062 Really? 662 00:28:53,148 --> 00:28:54,228 Here, Rick. 663 00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:57,437 SCOTT: Oh, nice. 664 00:28:57,527 --> 00:28:59,447 RICK: Yeah, wow. Barrel hoop. 665 00:28:59,571 --> 00:29:01,491 So it’s actually the band? Yeah, I thought you meant 666 00:29:01,615 --> 00:29:02,785 he has a couple of staves. 667 00:29:05,619 --> 00:29:06,949 Yeah. 668 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,789 You guys find anything like that before? 669 00:29:08,914 --> 00:29:11,254 -No. -No, we’ve found barrel staves. 670 00:29:11,333 --> 00:29:13,133 We’ve never found hoops. 671 00:29:13,252 --> 00:29:14,132 Okay. 672 00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:15,633 Especially wooden ones. 673 00:29:15,712 --> 00:29:17,262 BERTRAND: Yeah, this is wood. Yeah. 674 00:29:17,339 --> 00:29:18,839 RICK: But that’s a big barrel. 675 00:29:18,966 --> 00:29:22,256 You’re talking about... something that size. 676 00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:23,474 It could be. 677 00:29:23,553 --> 00:29:25,393 What’s that doing down that hole? 678 00:29:26,932 --> 00:29:29,272 You know, I remember a couple of years ago, 679 00:29:29,351 --> 00:29:31,311 we took a couple of the tops of casks 680 00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:33,266 from the swamp to Carmen, 681 00:29:33,355 --> 00:29:35,445 and they were fairly old, too. 682 00:29:35,524 --> 00:29:36,654 RONNIE: Interesting, right? 683 00:29:36,733 --> 00:29:37,783 Very much so. 684 00:29:39,069 --> 00:29:40,859 RICK: Hey, look at that. Cask. 685 00:29:40,988 --> 00:29:42,238 NARRATOR: Two years ago... 686 00:29:42,322 --> 00:29:43,662 GARY: Oh, that’s what that is, mate. 687 00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:45,830 Bottom of a keg. 688 00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:47,789 NARRATOR: While investigating near the stone road 689 00:29:47,869 --> 00:29:51,079 or possible ship’s wharf, in the swamp... 690 00:29:51,164 --> 00:29:53,754 IAN: Holy crow. That’s very important. 691 00:29:53,834 --> 00:29:56,844 NARRATOR: ...Rick and other members of the team 692 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,460 found pieces of wooden cargo barrels. 693 00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:08,560 And when blacksmithing expert 694 00:30:08,682 --> 00:30:10,392 Carmen Legge examined them, 695 00:30:10,517 --> 00:30:12,227 he believed they could predate the discovery 696 00:30:12,352 --> 00:30:14,772 of the Money Pit by four centuries. 697 00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:21,897 It’s very cool. Very cool. 698 00:30:22,029 --> 00:30:24,279 NARRATOR: Is it possible that this barrel hoop, 699 00:30:24,364 --> 00:30:27,874 found nearly 70 feet deep in the Garden Shaft, 700 00:30:27,951 --> 00:30:31,541 could be as old as those found in the swamp? 701 00:30:31,621 --> 00:30:33,791 Or, perhaps, even older? 702 00:30:33,874 --> 00:30:35,254 RONNIE: Probably be happy in the next couple of buckets, 703 00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:36,205 if we find the other half of that, eh? 704 00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:37,175 -Yeah. -NARRATOR: If so, 705 00:30:37,252 --> 00:30:38,752 what kind of cargo 706 00:30:38,879 --> 00:30:40,549 did it once contain, 707 00:30:40,672 --> 00:30:42,842 and is it still waiting to be found 708 00:30:42,924 --> 00:30:44,884 deeper within the structure? 709 00:30:44,968 --> 00:30:46,428 RICK: We’ve found tops of kegs, 710 00:30:46,553 --> 00:30:48,103 we’ve found barrel staves. 711 00:30:48,221 --> 00:30:52,431 However, this being found in the Money Pit 712 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:54,729 is most interesting. 713 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:56,233 RICK: What-what do you think? 714 00:30:56,355 --> 00:30:58,615 -Carbon dating? -Yeah. 715 00:30:58,732 --> 00:31:00,282 SCOTT: Did you... did you notice 716 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,360 any of the staves come out? Was, uh, I wonder... 717 00:31:02,444 --> 00:31:04,074 -No, no, that’s-that’s all we got, yeah. -SCOTT: Just-just this? 718 00:31:04,154 --> 00:31:06,574 But now, it’s all the more important to keep an eye 719 00:31:06,698 --> 00:31:08,238 because there might be something deeper. 720 00:31:08,325 --> 00:31:09,535 He’s always keeping an eye. 721 00:31:09,618 --> 00:31:10,618 Any piece of wood there, 722 00:31:10,744 --> 00:31:11,914 he’s got us running up there. 723 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:13,747 Good. Great find, though. 724 00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:14,962 RICK: Very interesting. 725 00:31:15,082 --> 00:31:16,922 SCOTT: It’s a great find. 726 00:31:17,042 --> 00:31:18,792 Yeah. You’re the eyes and boots of that operation. 727 00:31:18,919 --> 00:31:21,209 You see something, please, 728 00:31:21,296 --> 00:31:22,546 let us know. 729 00:31:22,631 --> 00:31:24,091 -We will. -For sure, yeah. 730 00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:25,336 RICK: All righty, thank you very much. 731 00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:26,795 SCOTT: Nice job, guys. 732 00:31:26,927 --> 00:31:27,797 NARRATOR: As the reconstruction 733 00:31:27,928 --> 00:31:29,298 of the Garden Shaft 734 00:31:29,429 --> 00:31:31,599 continues in the Money Pit area... 735 00:31:31,681 --> 00:31:34,351 CRAIG: Well, I think we’re ready to take the next step here. 736 00:31:34,434 --> 00:31:36,444 NARRATOR: ...Craig Tester arrives 737 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,520 in the northeastern region of the swamp 738 00:31:38,605 --> 00:31:40,515 with Jack Begley, 739 00:31:40,607 --> 00:31:42,817 Gary Drayton, Laird Niven, 740 00:31:42,943 --> 00:31:44,823 and Billy Gerhardt. 741 00:31:44,945 --> 00:31:47,665 CRAIG: We know out just a little bit is where 742 00:31:47,781 --> 00:31:49,371 the paved area was uncovered, 743 00:31:49,449 --> 00:31:50,829 so, you know, 744 00:31:50,951 --> 00:31:52,331 this may be part of the ramp. 745 00:31:52,452 --> 00:31:54,372 And then, as we’re pulling this way, 746 00:31:54,454 --> 00:31:56,124 hopefully we find a boundary. 747 00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:57,828 If you can find artifacts, 748 00:31:57,958 --> 00:31:59,038 that’d be fantastic. 749 00:31:59,126 --> 00:32:00,416 -That’s ideal. -CRAIG: Yes. 750 00:32:00,502 --> 00:32:02,802 The great news is that the paved area 751 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:04,301 seems to be rather large. 752 00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:05,673 GARY: I bought plenty of bags 753 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:07,469 with me today. I’m expecting a good day. 754 00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:09,342 Okay. 755 00:32:09,469 --> 00:32:11,849 -A lot going on, so let’s get after it. -Yep. 756 00:32:11,972 --> 00:32:15,182 NARRATOR: They are eager to continue their investigation 757 00:32:15,308 --> 00:32:19,058 of the stone ramp that was discovered one week ago, 758 00:32:19,146 --> 00:32:21,686 and which the team believes may be connected 759 00:32:21,815 --> 00:32:24,695 to the 800-year-old stone paved area. 760 00:32:24,818 --> 00:32:27,528 RICK: We think we found the ramp area, 761 00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:30,624 which is an inclined rock feature 762 00:32:30,699 --> 00:32:34,369 that led from the paved area, 763 00:32:34,494 --> 00:32:36,294 towards, at least, the stone path. 764 00:32:36,371 --> 00:32:37,871 I guess we’re going to really hear it 765 00:32:37,998 --> 00:32:39,368 before we see it, aren’t we? 766 00:32:39,499 --> 00:32:41,579 -The rocks? Yeah. -Yeah. When it comes down. 767 00:32:41,668 --> 00:32:43,918 RICK: Preliminarily, if one had to make an assessment, 768 00:32:44,004 --> 00:32:45,594 you could say there’s 769 00:32:45,672 --> 00:32:47,802 a direct correlation between the paved area 770 00:32:47,883 --> 00:32:49,223 and the stone path 771 00:32:49,342 --> 00:32:50,842 vis a vis this ramp, 772 00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:52,679 and maybe it leads to the Money Pit, 773 00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:54,764 but we need to expose it further. 774 00:32:55,682 --> 00:32:57,732 CRAIG: If it is a ramp leading up to 775 00:32:57,851 --> 00:32:59,441 the stone path, 776 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,349 that’d be amazing. 777 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,730 Yeah. 778 00:33:04,357 --> 00:33:05,227 RICK: Hey, guys. 779 00:33:05,358 --> 00:33:06,648 LAIRD: Hey, Rick. 780 00:33:07,694 --> 00:33:09,614 What’s up? 781 00:33:09,696 --> 00:33:11,196 We’re starting to see rocks now. 782 00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:12,993 Okay. 783 00:33:16,953 --> 00:33:18,793 LAIRD: Ooh. 784 00:33:33,053 --> 00:33:35,393 JACK: Oh. Is that a piece of wood? 785 00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:42,524 JACK: Hey, this is cut. 786 00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:48,482 JACK: This is cut. 787 00:33:48,568 --> 00:33:49,988 Doesn’t this look like a saw edge? 788 00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:51,490 NARRATOR: While investigating 789 00:33:51,571 --> 00:33:52,991 the mysterious stone ramp 790 00:33:53,073 --> 00:33:54,743 in the northeast section of the swamp, 791 00:33:54,824 --> 00:33:57,244 Jack Begley has just discovered 792 00:33:57,369 --> 00:34:00,409 a curious and potentially important clue. 793 00:34:02,582 --> 00:34:04,502 It’s sawed. I agree with you. 794 00:34:07,254 --> 00:34:09,424 Definitely hand-sawed. 795 00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:12,508 NARRATOR: A possibly hand-cut piece of wood? 796 00:34:12,592 --> 00:34:16,392 Over the past five years, the team has found 797 00:34:16,471 --> 00:34:19,061 not only pieces of believed cargo barrels, 798 00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:22,850 but also wooden fragments of large sailing vessels. 799 00:34:22,936 --> 00:34:25,606 Is it possible that Jack Begley 800 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:29,530 has just found another clue on the stone ramp, 801 00:34:29,609 --> 00:34:31,859 and near the 800-year-old paved area 802 00:34:31,945 --> 00:34:34,035 that could help the team determine 803 00:34:34,114 --> 00:34:36,074 why they were constructed? 804 00:34:36,157 --> 00:34:38,117 CRAIG: Any time we’re finding wood, 805 00:34:38,201 --> 00:34:39,911 we’re constantly looking for pieces 806 00:34:39,995 --> 00:34:41,795 that we might be able to date. 807 00:34:41,871 --> 00:34:43,371 Cut pieces of wood. 808 00:34:43,456 --> 00:34:45,116 What is it cut with? Is it an axe? 809 00:34:45,208 --> 00:34:46,288 Is it a saw? 810 00:34:46,376 --> 00:34:48,536 Saw cuts are quite straight. 811 00:34:48,628 --> 00:34:51,168 That usually tells us it’s an older method. 812 00:34:51,298 --> 00:34:54,378 What ancient story does it fit into? 813 00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:56,547 That’s what we’re here for. We’re here to find out 814 00:34:56,636 --> 00:34:58,386 what actually was going on. 815 00:34:58,471 --> 00:35:01,891 We’re excited and we hope that we can find answers here. 816 00:35:05,645 --> 00:35:07,395 JACK: That looks like C-horizon. 817 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,980 RICK: There it is. 818 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:11,190 Just C-horizon. 819 00:35:11,318 --> 00:35:12,398 Yep. 820 00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:14,065 CRAIG: Well... 821 00:35:14,154 --> 00:35:15,914 RICK: I think we’ve got the border there. 822 00:35:15,989 --> 00:35:17,369 -CRAIG: Yeah. -RICK: Actually, I think 823 00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:18,830 we’ve learned as much as we’re going to learn. 824 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:20,240 Yeah, I do, too. 825 00:35:20,327 --> 00:35:22,367 NARRATOR: Because the team believes 826 00:35:22,495 --> 00:35:24,535 that they have reached the C-horizon, 827 00:35:24,664 --> 00:35:27,214 or the natural layer of ground soil, 828 00:35:27,334 --> 00:35:29,794 it appears they have found the border 829 00:35:29,878 --> 00:35:33,338 of this section of the mysterious stone ramp feature. 830 00:35:33,423 --> 00:35:35,593 I don’t see any paved area here. 831 00:35:35,675 --> 00:35:37,255 I think we need to go... 832 00:35:37,344 --> 00:35:39,224 -Yeah. -CRAIG: So that we can try following 833 00:35:39,346 --> 00:35:40,886 the one area we did find, 834 00:35:41,014 --> 00:35:43,684 whether it’s a ramp or not, follow it up that way. 835 00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:45,518 GARY: I agree. 836 00:35:45,602 --> 00:35:46,942 Might as well move. 837 00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:48,560 We keep following that ramp. 838 00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:51,478 The swamp is an incredibly difficult 839 00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:54,026 environment to work in, 840 00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:56,032 but you have to be patient with, uh, 841 00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:57,914 with all the excavation work in the swamp. 842 00:35:58,031 --> 00:36:01,121 Follow the process, let it run out, 843 00:36:01,201 --> 00:36:04,001 and then, hopefully, at some point, we will find it. 844 00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,209 -So, I think fill this hole back in. -Yeah. 845 00:36:06,289 --> 00:36:08,749 CRAIG: We’ll call this area for now. 846 00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:10,035 RICK: Okay. 847 00:36:10,877 --> 00:36:12,957 NARRATOR: Later that afternoon, 848 00:36:13,046 --> 00:36:16,966 while operations continue in the Garden Shaft... 849 00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:18,510 We’re gaining, though. 850 00:36:18,593 --> 00:36:20,183 RON: That’s gaining. 851 00:36:20,261 --> 00:36:22,181 MARTY: So, we’ve got some more information, 852 00:36:22,263 --> 00:36:23,313 -I guess? -RICK: Yep. 853 00:36:23,390 --> 00:36:25,140 NARRATOR: Rick and Marty Lagina, 854 00:36:25,225 --> 00:36:27,895 along with Craig Tester and Jack Begley, 855 00:36:27,977 --> 00:36:29,807 meet in the interpretive center 856 00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:32,766 with archaeometallurgist Emma Culligan. 857 00:36:32,899 --> 00:36:36,149 CRAIG: This is what they found on Lot 5. 858 00:36:36,236 --> 00:36:37,856 So, what do you think it is? 859 00:36:37,946 --> 00:36:39,316 CRAIG: I mean, we don’t think it’s a button. 860 00:36:39,406 --> 00:36:41,776 It’s got holes in it, but they’re not centered. 861 00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:44,078 Gary was thinking gold coin, wasn’t he? 862 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,752 JACK: We thought token. 863 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:47,080 MARTY: I’m just wondering 864 00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:48,825 if it’s really old, corroded away. 865 00:36:48,915 --> 00:36:50,825 Emma’s got more information. 866 00:36:50,917 --> 00:36:52,167 -Okay. -CRAIG: That’s what 867 00:36:52,252 --> 00:36:54,632 we are understanding, so... 868 00:36:54,754 --> 00:36:56,764 NARRATOR: Now that Emma has completed 869 00:36:56,881 --> 00:36:59,341 an extended X-ray fluorescence scan 870 00:36:59,426 --> 00:37:00,886 of the mysterious lead disk 871 00:37:00,969 --> 00:37:02,679 that was found two days ago on Lot 5, 872 00:37:02,762 --> 00:37:07,772 she is prepared to share her preliminary analysis 873 00:37:07,851 --> 00:37:12,021 on the object’s content and potential geographic origin. 874 00:37:12,105 --> 00:37:13,985 MARTY: Let’s let the machine speak. 875 00:37:14,107 --> 00:37:15,687 -RICK: Emma? -Hello. 876 00:37:15,775 --> 00:37:17,275 -What have you got? -MARTY: What you got, Emma? 877 00:37:17,402 --> 00:37:20,952 EMMA: So, you’ll see two different tones. 878 00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:23,820 There’s a white layer... A light layer, and a dark layer. 879 00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:25,240 JACK: Oh. 880 00:37:25,326 --> 00:37:26,866 EMMA: So I did two long point scans 881 00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:28,663 on each of those layers, 882 00:37:28,788 --> 00:37:31,208 and what came out was that the light layer 883 00:37:31,291 --> 00:37:34,091 is about 99.96% lead, 884 00:37:34,169 --> 00:37:38,209 pretty pure, with a .02% copper and iron. 885 00:37:38,298 --> 00:37:40,548 The dark layer does have some iron content, 886 00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:43,393 about .41% and about .4% copper 887 00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:45,050 and .2% silicone. 888 00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:47,678 But both those leads 889 00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:50,137 are naturally occurring leads, like you can ore them. 890 00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:53,270 So, that one is of interest because 891 00:37:53,354 --> 00:37:55,154 you don’t see something like that. 892 00:37:55,231 --> 00:37:57,231 It gained my curiosity even further. 893 00:37:57,317 --> 00:37:59,527 So I did an XRD scan afterwards. 894 00:38:00,612 --> 00:38:04,322 The initial mineral that I found that it matched to 895 00:38:04,449 --> 00:38:07,619 is a sample found in the mines of Iran. 896 00:38:08,661 --> 00:38:10,411 But when it matches a sample, 897 00:38:10,497 --> 00:38:14,707 it doesn’t necessarily mean it comes from that exact mine, 898 00:38:14,834 --> 00:38:16,844 but anything that lies on 899 00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:18,751 the same geological belt, 900 00:38:18,838 --> 00:38:20,758 which goes across Italy, 901 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,090 near France, Spain. 902 00:38:23,176 --> 00:38:26,636 So there is a sample off the coast of Italy, 903 00:38:26,721 --> 00:38:28,641 and it’s matching those results. 904 00:38:28,723 --> 00:38:33,023 So this comes from somewhere in that region. 905 00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:44,405 EMMA: So this comes from the mines of Iran 906 00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:46,911 or Sardinia, off the coast of Italy. 907 00:38:47,033 --> 00:38:49,493 NARRATOR: In the Oak Island Interpretive Centre, 908 00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:52,407 archaeometallurgist Emma Culligan 909 00:38:52,539 --> 00:38:56,129 has just shared an astonishing scientific report with the team. 910 00:38:56,209 --> 00:38:57,749 The lead artifact 911 00:38:57,877 --> 00:39:00,547 discovered two days ago on Lot 5 912 00:39:00,630 --> 00:39:02,880 may have originated in the Middle East 913 00:39:03,007 --> 00:39:05,427 or several regions of Europe, including Italy. 914 00:39:05,552 --> 00:39:09,432 Nothing like that exists in the North American continent? 915 00:39:09,556 --> 00:39:12,476 No, it doesn’t occur in North America. 916 00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:14,386 MARTY: What about age? 917 00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:15,939 Shed any light on that? 918 00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:17,692 EMMA: It’s hard to date this lead. 919 00:39:17,772 --> 00:39:19,692 Um, it’s really pure, 920 00:39:19,774 --> 00:39:21,404 -so it can be old. -Mm-hmm. 921 00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:24,284 But the fact that I am getting a hit from Sardinia, 922 00:39:24,404 --> 00:39:26,784 which, you know, there is Roman mines there. 923 00:39:26,906 --> 00:39:28,906 NARRATOR: Is it possible that 924 00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:31,623 the lead artifact discovered on Lot 5 925 00:39:31,744 --> 00:39:33,914 could have originated in Italy? 926 00:39:33,997 --> 00:39:37,207 If so, could it be related to the Roman coin 927 00:39:37,292 --> 00:39:39,212 that was found earlier this year, 928 00:39:39,294 --> 00:39:40,964 and also support the belief 929 00:39:41,087 --> 00:39:43,917 of researchers such as Zena Halpern 930 00:39:44,007 --> 00:39:45,417 and Emiliano Sacchetti 931 00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:47,510 that members of the Knights Templar 932 00:39:47,594 --> 00:39:49,934 were connected to the Oak Island mystery? 933 00:39:50,763 --> 00:39:53,063 The fact that this type of ore 934 00:39:53,141 --> 00:39:56,981 stretches across, uh, Southern Europe, 935 00:39:57,103 --> 00:39:59,153 it’s the trail of the Templars. 936 00:39:59,272 --> 00:40:02,692 Could this artifact be associated with that? 937 00:40:02,775 --> 00:40:04,105 It could, 938 00:40:04,193 --> 00:40:05,993 but there’s a lot of work to do yet 939 00:40:06,112 --> 00:40:08,572 before you make that statement. 940 00:40:08,656 --> 00:40:10,776 But it is on the trail of the Templars. 941 00:40:10,909 --> 00:40:13,119 So, once again, we have an unknown item 942 00:40:13,244 --> 00:40:16,374 coming from places it shouldn’t come from. How’s that? 943 00:40:16,456 --> 00:40:17,826 Yeah. (laughs) 944 00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:22,005 Based on where it was found, we think it’s very old. 945 00:40:22,128 --> 00:40:25,378 Appearance and shape might mean something to somebody. 946 00:40:25,465 --> 00:40:26,845 -Mm-hmm. -MARTY: So we get it out there. 947 00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:28,796 Somebody’s going to know what that is. 948 00:40:28,927 --> 00:40:30,297 -MARTY: Yeah, I would think so. -There’s no question about it. 949 00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:31,798 MARTY: I’m keenly interested in this. 950 00:40:31,888 --> 00:40:33,678 It has scalloped edges, 951 00:40:33,806 --> 00:40:35,426 and it has a peculiar shape, 952 00:40:35,516 --> 00:40:38,516 and it has peculiar holes in the center of it. 953 00:40:38,645 --> 00:40:41,615 So our hope is that it might be rather significant. 954 00:40:41,689 --> 00:40:43,899 Okay, so we dig the heck out of Lot 5. 955 00:40:43,983 --> 00:40:45,823 -Agreed. -So, look, I’ll follow up 956 00:40:45,902 --> 00:40:47,282 on all this, and as soon as 957 00:40:47,362 --> 00:40:49,492 any data at all comes in, I’ll let everybody know. 958 00:40:49,614 --> 00:40:50,994 Okay, let’s get that done. 959 00:40:51,074 --> 00:40:52,324 Emma, thank you very much. 960 00:40:52,408 --> 00:40:53,658 MARTY: Thank you, Emma. Stay on it. 961 00:40:53,743 --> 00:40:55,163 EMMA: All right. 962 00:40:56,329 --> 00:41:00,209 NARRATOR: At the end of another successful week on Oak Island, 963 00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,383 Rick, Marty, Craig and their team 964 00:41:03,503 --> 00:41:06,053 are more encouraged than ever 965 00:41:06,172 --> 00:41:07,922 that the discoveries they continue to unearth 966 00:41:08,007 --> 00:41:10,377 may soon reveal the answers 967 00:41:10,510 --> 00:41:13,600 to a 228-year-old mystery. 968 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,390 But as they dig deeper, 969 00:41:16,516 --> 00:41:18,886 could they actually be closing in 970 00:41:19,018 --> 00:41:21,688 on a treasure of biblical proportions? 971 00:41:21,771 --> 00:41:24,861 Perhaps it’s just a matter of time, 972 00:41:24,941 --> 00:41:28,191 and their ability to avoid a deadly curse, 973 00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:30,909 that will tell. 974 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,120 NARRATOR: Next time on The Curse of Oak Island... 975 00:41:35,201 --> 00:41:36,411 ALEX: Wow. 976 00:41:36,536 --> 00:41:37,866 -We’re at 13 feet across. -LAIRD: Wow. 977 00:41:37,954 --> 00:41:39,374 ALEX: That is the exact same dimension 978 00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:40,457 as the Money Pit. 979 00:41:40,540 --> 00:41:41,920 To me, it changes everything. 980 00:41:42,041 --> 00:41:44,041 -Oh, look at that. -Oh, look at that. 981 00:41:44,168 --> 00:41:46,088 That’s nice. Fantastic! 982 00:41:46,212 --> 00:41:48,552 That’s got to be the oldest metal artifact 983 00:41:48,631 --> 00:41:50,301 ever to come out the swamp. 984 00:41:50,383 --> 00:41:52,223 It’s the oldest I’ve seen in Nova Scotia. 985 00:41:52,301 --> 00:41:54,931 It’s Roman from 5th century. 986 00:41:55,054 --> 00:41:56,894 JACK: Oh, no way. 987 00:41:57,015 --> 00:41:58,895 -How sure are you of this? -I’m 100% sure. 988 00:41:59,017 --> 00:42:00,427 -Wow. -Wow. 989 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,140 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS