1 00:00:07,958 --> 00:00:08,932 >> John: HELLO THERE. 2 00:00:08,932 --> 00:00:10,100 LOOK, BEFORE WE START OUR SHOW 3 00:00:10,166 --> 00:00:10,995 TONIGHT, WHICH I'M SURE WILL 4 00:00:10,995 --> 00:00:12,196 BE ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE 5 00:00:12,263 --> 00:00:12,797 GRAVEL ZONING OR 6 00:00:13,250 --> 00:00:14,050 DOGHOUSE FORECLOSURES ‐‐ I 7 00:00:14,117 --> 00:00:15,018 HONESTLY DON'T KNOW, I DON'T 8 00:00:15,085 --> 00:00:15,919 READ THE SCRIPT UNTIL I START 9 00:00:15,986 --> 00:00:19,002 TALKING ‐‐ BUT BEFORE WE DO 10 00:00:19,002 --> 00:00:19,502 THAT, I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, 11 00:00:20,479 --> 00:00:21,513 AMERICA HAS JUST SEEN TWO MASS 12 00:00:22,158 --> 00:00:23,159 SHOOTINGS WITHIN 24 HOURS, IN 13 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:24,821 DAYTON, OHIO, AND EL PASO, 14 00:00:24,887 --> 00:00:25,922 TEXAS. 15 00:00:25,989 --> 00:00:26,789 AND WHILE IT'S STILL VERY EARLY, 16 00:00:26,856 --> 00:00:27,657 IT DOES FEEL LIKE THERE ARE A 17 00:00:27,724 --> 00:00:28,257 COUPLE OF POINTS THAT DO SEEM 18 00:00:28,324 --> 00:00:32,028 WORTH MENTIONING HERE. 19 00:00:32,095 --> 00:00:33,129 FIRST, WHEN IT COMES TO 20 00:00:33,196 --> 00:00:34,931 GUN CONTROL, IT CAN FEEL LIKE 21 00:00:34,998 --> 00:00:35,765 EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID BEFORE. 22 00:00:35,832 --> 00:00:36,899 IN FACT, EVEN POINTING OUT 23 00:00:36,966 --> 00:00:38,501 "EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID BEFORE," 24 00:00:38,568 --> 00:00:39,335 HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE. 25 00:00:39,402 --> 00:00:40,703 IN FACT, EVEN POINTING OUT THE 26 00:00:40,770 --> 00:00:41,471 FACT THAT EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID 27 00:00:41,537 --> 00:00:42,672 BEFORE HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE HAS 28 00:00:42,739 --> 00:00:46,309 BEEN SAID BEFORE. 29 00:00:46,376 --> 00:00:50,013 BUT WHILE THE DEPRESSINGLY 30 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:51,481 FAMILIAR NUMBNESS THAT YOU MAY 31 00:00:51,547 --> 00:00:53,483 BE FEELING CAN HELP YOU HANDLE 32 00:00:53,549 --> 00:00:54,484 THE PAIN IN THE SHORT TERM, IN 33 00:00:54,550 --> 00:00:56,052 THE LONG TERM, IT CAN ACTUALLY 34 00:00:56,119 --> 00:00:57,520 BE A REAL PROBLEM, BECAUSE 35 00:00:57,587 --> 00:00:58,988 UNLESS SOMETHING HURTS AS MUCH 36 00:00:59,055 --> 00:01:00,623 AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO, NOTHING 37 00:01:00,690 --> 00:01:01,824 GETS DONE ABOUT IT, AND 38 00:01:01,891 --> 00:01:03,226 SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE DONE 39 00:01:03,292 --> 00:01:04,260 HERE, AND NOT JUST ABOUT GUNS. 40 00:01:04,327 --> 00:01:05,595 THE EL PASO SHOOTING IS 41 00:01:05,662 --> 00:01:07,530 CURRENTLY BEING INVESTIGATED AS 42 00:01:07,597 --> 00:01:09,432 A HATE CRIME. 43 00:01:09,499 --> 00:01:10,600 AND THE SHOOTER'S MANIFESTO 44 00:01:10,667 --> 00:01:13,236 FEATURED ANTI‐IMMIGRANT LANGUAGE 45 00:01:13,302 --> 00:01:16,506 THAT MAY WELL BE FAMILIAR TO YOU 46 00:01:16,572 --> 00:01:17,140 FROM CERTAIN CABLE NETWORKS AND 47 00:01:17,206 --> 00:01:18,875 CERTAIN PRESIDENTS. 48 00:01:18,941 --> 00:01:19,942 AND CLEARLY WHITE NATIONALISM 49 00:01:20,009 --> 00:01:21,444 AND ANTI‐IMMIGRANT HYSTERIA DID 50 00:01:21,511 --> 00:01:23,212 NOT START WITH THIS PRESIDENT. 51 00:01:23,279 --> 00:01:24,514 BUT HE CERTAINLY SEEMS TO HAVE 52 00:01:24,580 --> 00:01:26,182 CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE 53 00:01:26,249 --> 00:01:29,619 THOSE KIND OF VIEWS CAN FESTER 54 00:01:29,686 --> 00:01:30,787 AND, INDEED, THRIVE. 55 00:01:30,853 --> 00:01:31,921 IN FACT, JUST THREE MONTHS AGO, 56 00:01:31,988 --> 00:01:33,089 AS HE WAS DELIBERATELY WINDING 57 00:01:33,156 --> 00:01:35,091 UP A CROWD WITH THE IMAGE OF 58 00:01:35,158 --> 00:01:36,392 15,000 IMMIGRANTS MARCHING 59 00:01:36,459 --> 00:01:37,427 TOWARD THE BORDER, THIS 60 00:01:37,493 --> 00:01:38,461 HAPPENED: 61 00:01:38,528 --> 00:01:39,696 >> HOW DO YOU STOP THESE PEOPLE? 62 00:01:39,762 --> 00:01:41,197 >> SHOOT THEM! 63 00:01:41,264 --> 00:01:42,098 >> YOU CAN'T. 64 00:01:42,165 --> 00:01:42,965 THERE'S NOT ‐‐ 65 00:01:43,032 --> 00:01:45,201 [LAUGHTER] 66 00:01:45,268 --> 00:01:46,102 THAT'S ONLY IN THE PANHANDLE YOU 67 00:01:46,169 --> 00:01:47,303 CAN GET AWAY WITH THAT 68 00:01:47,370 --> 00:01:48,705 STATEMENT. 69 00:01:48,771 --> 00:01:56,045 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 70 00:01:56,112 --> 00:02:00,516 ONLY IN THE PANHANDLE. 71 00:02:00,583 --> 00:02:01,884 >> John: YEAH, BUT HERE IS THE 72 00:02:01,951 --> 00:02:02,919 THING: IT'S NOT "ONLY IN THE 73 00:02:02,985 --> 00:02:04,220 PANHANDLE" WHERE YOU CAN GET 74 00:02:04,287 --> 00:02:05,922 AWAY WITH THAT STATEMENT. 75 00:02:05,988 --> 00:02:07,056 YOU CAN NOW GET AWAY WITH IT ALL 76 00:02:07,123 --> 00:02:08,291 OVER THE COUNTRY, AND ‐‐ AS HE 77 00:02:08,357 --> 00:02:11,360 JUST MADE PAINFULLY CLEAR ‐‐ IN 78 00:02:11,427 --> 00:02:13,062 ANY ROOM THE ACTUAL PRESIDENT IS 79 00:02:13,129 --> 00:02:14,630 IN, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY 80 00:02:14,697 --> 00:02:19,001 APPALLING, AND THAT IS SOMETHING 81 00:02:19,068 --> 00:02:20,103 WE CANNOT AFFORD TO GET NUMB TO. 82 00:02:20,169 --> 00:02:25,007 IF THAT EVER, FOR A MOMENT, 83 00:02:25,074 --> 00:02:26,542 FEELS LIKE IT'S BECOME NORMAL, 84 00:02:26,609 --> 00:02:27,276 WE'RE GOING TO BE COMPELELY 85 00:02:27,343 --> 00:02:28,044 FUCKED. 86 00:02:28,111 --> 00:02:28,778 AND WE'RE GOING TO LEARN MORE 87 00:02:28,845 --> 00:02:29,412 ABOUT THIS IN THE WEEKS AND 88 00:02:29,479 --> 00:02:30,427 MONTHS AHEAD. 89 00:02:30,427 --> 00:02:31,540 AND THERE MAY BE TIME TO TALK 90 00:02:31,540 --> 00:02:32,588 ABOUT IT MORE IN DEPTH THEN. 91 00:02:32,588 --> 00:02:37,687 BUT UNTIL THEN, I BELIEVE WE 92 00:02:37,754 --> 00:02:38,855 HAVE A DUMB SHOW FOR YOU ABOUT 93 00:02:38,921 --> 00:02:40,056 TURNIP SUBSIDIES OR SOMETHING. 94 00:02:40,123 --> 00:02:40,690 AGAIN, I'M AS IN THE DARK ABOUT 95 00:02:40,757 --> 00:02:42,058 IT AS YOU. 96 00:02:42,125 --> 00:02:42,859 BUT PLEASE, AFTER A TOUGH, TOUGH 97 00:02:42,925 --> 00:02:46,195 DAY, PLEASE ENJOY THIS NONSENSE. 98 00:02:47,056 --> 00:02:51,460 ♪ ♪ 99 00:02:51,527 --> 00:02:58,167 ♪ ♪ 100 00:02:58,234 --> 00:03:05,308 ♪ ♪ 101 00:03:05,374 --> 00:03:11,110 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 102 00:03:12,526 --> 00:03:13,574 >> John: WELCOME, WELCOME, 103 00:03:13,574 --> 00:03:14,141 WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT!" 104 00:03:14,208 --> 00:03:15,076 I'M JOHN OLIVER. 105 00:03:15,142 --> 00:03:15,743 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING 106 00:03:15,810 --> 00:03:16,577 US. 107 00:03:16,644 --> 00:03:19,494 JUST TIME FOR A QUICK RECAP OF 108 00:03:19,494 --> 00:03:20,295 THE WEEK. 109 00:03:20,362 --> 00:03:21,730 AND WE BEGIN WITH THE 110 00:03:21,797 --> 00:03:22,364 UNITED KINGDOM, A COUNTRY 111 00:03:22,431 --> 00:03:23,565 THAT ‐‐ AND THIS IS TRUE ‐‐ HAD 112 00:03:23,632 --> 00:03:26,702 A GOOD RUN. 113 00:03:26,768 --> 00:03:28,036 SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO 114 00:03:28,103 --> 00:03:29,872 BEGIN WITH THE U. K.'S NEW PRIME 115 00:03:29,938 --> 00:03:30,806 MINISTER, BORIS JOHNSON, A MAN 116 00:03:30,873 --> 00:03:32,174 WHOSE PHOTO SHOULD ACCOMPANY THE 117 00:03:32,241 --> 00:03:35,811 HEADLINE, "OWEN WILSON DROWNS." 118 00:03:35,878 --> 00:03:37,279 JOHNSON'S TENURE AS 119 00:03:37,346 --> 00:03:38,480 PRIME MINISTER BEGAN THIS WEEK 120 00:03:38,547 --> 00:03:40,182 WITH A TOUR AROUND THE U. K., 121 00:03:40,249 --> 00:03:41,516 WHERE HE WAS RECEIVED WITH THE 122 00:03:41,583 --> 00:03:42,184 EXACT LEVEL OF WARMTH HE 123 00:03:42,251 --> 00:03:43,352 DESERVES. 124 00:03:43,418 --> 00:03:45,187 >> PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON 125 00:03:45,254 --> 00:03:47,089 HAS KICKED OFF HIS FIRST FULL 126 00:03:47,155 --> 00:03:48,790 WEEK AS PRIME MINISTER WITH A 127 00:03:48,857 --> 00:03:50,225 TRIP TO SCOTLAND, WHERE HE'S 128 00:03:50,292 --> 00:03:51,793 CALLING FOR A STRENGTHENING OF 129 00:03:51,860 --> 00:03:53,228 THE TIES THAT BIND THE 130 00:03:53,295 --> 00:03:54,930 UNITED KINGDOM. 131 00:03:54,997 --> 00:04:03,305 [CROWD BOOING] 132 00:04:03,372 --> 00:04:06,408 WELL, THAT'S SOME BOOING THERE. 133 00:04:06,475 --> 00:04:08,076 >> John: YEAH, YEAH, IT WAS. 134 00:04:08,143 --> 00:04:09,244 THAT WAS, INDEED, SOME BOOING 135 00:04:09,311 --> 00:04:13,048 THERE. 136 00:04:13,115 --> 00:04:13,949 IT SEEMS LIKE THE CURRENT "TIES 137 00:04:14,016 --> 00:04:15,417 THAT BIND THE UNITED KINGDOM" 138 00:04:15,484 --> 00:04:16,051 CONSIST OF "SHARED ABJECT HATRED 139 00:04:16,118 --> 00:04:16,952 OF ONE PARTICULAR MAN." 140 00:04:17,019 --> 00:04:19,388 AND THE BOOING WASN'T EVEN THE 141 00:04:19,454 --> 00:04:19,922 LOW POINT OF BORIS' WEEK. 142 00:04:19,988 --> 00:04:20,722 THERE WAS ALSO A SPECIAL 143 00:04:20,789 --> 00:04:21,757 ELECTION FOR A PARLIAMENTARY 144 00:04:21,823 --> 00:04:22,524 SEAT, AND IT DID NOT GO WELL FOR 145 00:04:22,591 --> 00:04:24,192 HIM. 146 00:04:24,259 --> 00:04:25,961 >> BORIS JOHNSON'S CHANCES OF 147 00:04:26,028 --> 00:04:27,663 SECURING ANY AGREEMENT ON BREXIT 148 00:04:27,729 --> 00:04:30,198 JUST GOT HARDER. 149 00:04:30,265 --> 00:04:31,566 >> THE PRO‐EU LIBERAL DEMOCRATS 150 00:04:31,633 --> 00:04:32,467 JUST PICKED UP A PARLIAMENTARY 151 00:04:32,534 --> 00:04:34,236 SEAT. 152 00:04:34,303 --> 00:04:36,171 THIS LEAVES MR. JOHNSON WITH A 153 00:04:36,238 --> 00:04:38,240 MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 154 00:04:38,307 --> 00:04:40,008 OF JUST ONE ‐‐ ONE SEAT. 155 00:04:40,075 --> 00:04:42,044 >> John: BORIS HAS BEEN IN THE 156 00:04:42,110 --> 00:04:44,246 JOB JUST OVER A WEEK, AND HIS 157 00:04:44,313 --> 00:04:46,381 MAJORITY IS DOWN TO ONE, MEANING 158 00:04:46,448 --> 00:04:47,449 THAT THE ALREADY IMPOSSIBLE TASK 159 00:04:47,516 --> 00:04:49,017 OF GETTING PARLIAMENTARY 160 00:04:49,084 --> 00:04:49,785 APPROVAL ON A WORKABLE BREXIT 161 00:04:49,851 --> 00:04:51,253 DEAL SOMEHOW JUST GOT EVEN 162 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,321 HARDER. 163 00:04:52,387 --> 00:04:53,822 IT'S LIKE IF APOLLO 11 WAS ABOUT 164 00:04:53,889 --> 00:04:55,023 TO LAND ON THE MOON AND 165 00:04:55,090 --> 00:04:55,958 BUZZ ALDRIN TURNED TO 166 00:04:56,024 --> 00:04:57,025 NEIL ARMSTRONG AND SAID, "NEIL, 167 00:04:57,092 --> 00:04:59,261 DON'T BE MAD, BUT I JUST 168 00:04:59,328 --> 00:05:00,762 REALIZED I FORGOT OUR 169 00:05:00,829 --> 00:05:02,097 SPACE SUITS. 170 00:05:02,164 --> 00:05:03,131 HOW LONG CAN YOU HOLD YOUR 171 00:05:03,198 --> 00:05:04,967 BREATH?" 172 00:05:05,033 --> 00:05:06,401 AND IN THE MIDST OF ALL THIS, 173 00:05:06,468 --> 00:05:07,402 BORIS MET WITH BRITAIN'S 174 00:05:07,469 --> 00:05:08,537 FARMERS, WHO COULD BE HIT 175 00:05:08,603 --> 00:05:09,538 PARTICULARLY HARD BY A NO‐DEAL 176 00:05:09,604 --> 00:05:11,039 BREXIT, WHICH LED TO THIS 177 00:05:11,106 --> 00:05:12,207 MAGNIFICENT IMAGE OF HIM TIGHTLY 178 00:05:12,274 --> 00:05:14,042 GRASPING A CHICKEN. 179 00:05:14,109 --> 00:05:16,211 AND I THINK THAT CHICKEN'S FACE 180 00:05:16,278 --> 00:05:18,313 MAY ACTUALLY SUM UP THE FEELINGS 181 00:05:18,380 --> 00:05:18,914 OF MANY IN BRITAIN RIGHT NOW. 182 00:05:18,981 --> 00:05:20,215 JUST LOOK AT IT. 183 00:05:20,282 --> 00:05:22,551 "WELL, IT SEEMS I'M FIRMLY IN 184 00:05:22,617 --> 00:05:23,485 THE CLUTCHES OF AN IDIOT WHO 185 00:05:23,552 --> 00:05:24,686 APPEARS TO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO 186 00:05:24,753 --> 00:05:25,887 DO WITH ME. 187 00:05:25,954 --> 00:05:27,089 SO I MIGHT AS WELL JUST GO LIMP, 188 00:05:27,155 --> 00:05:28,857 WAIT FOR MY DARK FATE TO COME TO 189 00:05:28,924 --> 00:05:30,125 PASS, AND PRAY THIS IS ALL OVER 190 00:05:30,192 --> 00:05:31,660 QUICKLY." 191 00:05:31,727 --> 00:05:33,595 BUT FOR NOW, LET'S MOVE ON TO 192 00:05:33,662 --> 00:05:35,464 JOHN RATCLIFFE, TRUMP'S 193 00:05:35,530 --> 00:05:37,099 SHORT‐LIVED PICK FOR DIRECTOR OF 194 00:05:37,165 --> 00:05:38,400 NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND 195 00:05:38,467 --> 00:05:39,468 THIRD‐SEASON WINNER OF THE 196 00:05:39,534 --> 00:05:40,802 REALITY SHOW "SO YOU THINK YOU 197 00:05:40,869 --> 00:05:43,038 CAN ROMNEY." 198 00:05:43,105 --> 00:05:44,239 THE PRESIDENT ANNOUNCED 199 00:05:44,306 --> 00:05:46,241 RATCLIFFE AS HIS PICK FOR DNI ON 200 00:05:46,308 --> 00:05:47,175 TWITTER LAST SUNDAY, AND HE 201 00:05:47,242 --> 00:05:47,809 IMMEDIATELY SEEMED LIKE AN ODD 202 00:05:47,876 --> 00:05:48,643 CHOICE. 203 00:05:48,710 --> 00:05:50,012 AFTER ALL, IT'S A JOB OVERSEEING 204 00:05:50,078 --> 00:05:50,879 17 AGENCIES WITH A COMBINED 205 00:05:50,946 --> 00:05:53,115 BUDGET OF $60 BILLION, AND 206 00:05:53,181 --> 00:05:54,816 ANYONE NOMINATED TO THE POSITION 207 00:05:54,883 --> 00:05:56,318 IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO HAVE 208 00:05:56,385 --> 00:05:58,687 EXTENSIVE NATIONAL SECURITY 209 00:05:58,754 --> 00:05:59,888 EXPERTISE, WHICH IS SOMETHING 210 00:05:59,955 --> 00:06:00,922 RATCLIFFE EMPHATICALLY DID NOT 211 00:06:00,989 --> 00:06:02,624 HAVE. 212 00:06:02,691 --> 00:06:03,992 HE WAS THE FORMER MAYOR OF 213 00:06:04,059 --> 00:06:05,027 HEATH, TEXAS, AN UNPAID POSITION 214 00:06:05,093 --> 00:06:06,328 IN A TOWN OF AROUND 9,000 215 00:06:06,395 --> 00:06:07,496 PEOPLE. 216 00:06:07,562 --> 00:06:08,697 AND IF YOU WANT TO GET AN IDEA 217 00:06:08,764 --> 00:06:09,765 OF THE KIND OF BIG ISSUES HE MAY 218 00:06:09,831 --> 00:06:11,500 HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH THERE, I 219 00:06:11,566 --> 00:06:13,702 POINT YOU TO HEATH'S FACEBOOK 220 00:06:13,769 --> 00:06:15,637 PAGE, WHERE THERE IS CURRENTLY A 221 00:06:15,704 --> 00:06:17,105 HEATED DISCUSSION ABOUT A NEW 222 00:06:17,172 --> 00:06:17,973 MEXICAN RESTAURANT IN TOWN 223 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,341 BECAUSE, AND I QUOTE, "WE HAVE 224 00:06:19,408 --> 00:06:21,843 ONE ALREADY." 225 00:06:21,910 --> 00:06:23,478 THERE ARE, AND I CANNOT STRESS 226 00:06:23,545 --> 00:06:26,481 THIS ENOUGH, 189 COMMENTS. 227 00:06:26,548 --> 00:06:27,416 AND WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET 228 00:06:27,482 --> 00:06:29,084 INTO THE WHOLE THING, BUT IT'S 229 00:06:29,151 --> 00:06:30,652 WORTH POINTING OUT THAT ONE 230 00:06:30,719 --> 00:06:32,654 PARTICULAR THREAD STARTS WITH 231 00:06:32,721 --> 00:06:33,822 "SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO 232 00:06:33,889 --> 00:06:35,190 SIT‐DOWN 'RESTAURANTS' ‐‐ 233 00:06:35,257 --> 00:06:36,358 MISSPELLED ‐‐ IN TOWN, AND 234 00:06:36,425 --> 00:06:37,959 THEY'RE BOTH MEXICAN FOOD? 235 00:06:38,026 --> 00:06:39,161 AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EXCITED 236 00:06:39,227 --> 00:06:40,529 BY THIS? 237 00:06:40,595 --> 00:06:43,031 SEEMS LIKE POOR PLANNING TO ME." 238 00:06:43,098 --> 00:06:44,533 AND ESCALATES TO THE POINT WHERE 239 00:06:44,599 --> 00:06:45,801 THIS DELIGHTFUL MAN SAYS, 240 00:06:45,867 --> 00:06:47,702 "I DON'T MUCH LIKE THE OVERALL 241 00:06:47,769 --> 00:06:49,271 TONE OF YOUR POSTS, SIR. 242 00:06:49,337 --> 00:06:52,207 BTW, I JUST GOOGLED WHAT A CUCK 243 00:06:52,274 --> 00:06:53,008 WAS, AND I AM EXTREMELY 244 00:06:53,075 --> 00:06:54,076 OFFENDED." 245 00:06:54,142 --> 00:06:55,177 WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE 246 00:06:55,243 --> 00:06:56,645 INTERNET ENCAPSULATED INTO TWO 247 00:06:56,711 --> 00:06:57,979 COMMENTS. 248 00:06:58,046 --> 00:07:00,916 HEATH SEEMS LOVELY. 249 00:07:00,982 --> 00:07:01,550 NOW, TO BE FAIR TO RATCLIFFE, HE 250 00:07:01,616 --> 00:07:04,219 DID ALSO SERVE AS A U. S. 251 00:07:04,286 --> 00:07:06,421 ATTORNEY, ALTHOUGH IT WAS FOR 252 00:07:06,488 --> 00:07:08,056 LESS THAN A YEAR, ON AN INTERIM 253 00:07:08,123 --> 00:07:11,426 BASIS, AND HIS RESUME SEEMS TO 254 00:07:11,493 --> 00:07:13,295 HAVE VASTLY INFLATED WHAT 255 00:07:13,361 --> 00:07:13,762 HAPPENED IN THAT TIME. 256 00:07:13,829 --> 00:07:14,362 >> IN HIS CONGRESSIONAL BIO, 257 00:07:14,429 --> 00:07:15,363 RATCLIFFE CLAIMS DURING THAT 258 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:15,897 TIME HE PUT TERRORISTS IN 259 00:07:15,964 --> 00:07:18,200 PRISON, BUT A CNN SEARCH OF 260 00:07:18,266 --> 00:07:19,501 TERROR‐RELATED CASES DOESN'T 261 00:07:19,568 --> 00:07:20,569 SHOW ANY THAT RATCLIFFE HIMSELF 262 00:07:20,635 --> 00:07:22,737 PROSECUTED AND HIS OFFICE 263 00:07:22,804 --> 00:07:23,638 COULDN'T OFFER EXAMPLES OR 264 00:07:23,705 --> 00:07:29,344 EVIDENCE. 265 00:07:29,411 --> 00:07:30,645 IN THAT SAME CONGRESSIONAL BIO 266 00:07:30,712 --> 00:07:31,613 RATCLIFFE ALSO SAYS HE ARRESTED 267 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,683 300 ILLEGAL ALIENS IN A SINGLE 268 00:07:34,749 --> 00:07:35,584 DAY, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ACTUALLY 269 00:07:35,650 --> 00:07:37,052 A MULTI‐STATE, MULTI‐AGENCY 270 00:07:37,119 --> 00:07:37,953 OPERATION TO SWEEP UP SUSPECTED 271 00:07:38,019 --> 00:07:42,257 ILLEGAL WORKERS. 272 00:07:42,324 --> 00:07:43,458 JUST 45 WORKERS WERE CHARGED BY 273 00:07:43,525 --> 00:07:44,092 RATCLIFFE'S OFFICE, SIX OF WHOM 274 00:07:44,159 --> 00:07:45,627 WERE DISMISSED. 275 00:07:45,694 --> 00:07:46,795 >> John: YEAH, RATCLIFFE SAID HE 276 00:07:46,862 --> 00:07:48,196 ARRESTED "300 ILLEGAL ALIENS IN 277 00:07:48,263 --> 00:07:49,831 A SINGLE DAY" WHEN HIS OFFICE 278 00:07:49,898 --> 00:07:50,932 ONLY CHARGED 45, WHICH IS A 279 00:07:50,999 --> 00:07:52,534 PRETTY AUDACIOUS LIE. 280 00:07:52,601 --> 00:07:53,702 AND I KNOW IT SEEMS WEIRD TO BE 281 00:07:53,768 --> 00:07:55,270 UPSET ABOUT SOMEBODY NOT 282 00:07:55,337 --> 00:07:56,438 ARRESTING AS MANY HUMANS AS THEY 283 00:07:56,505 --> 00:07:59,007 SAID THEY DID, BUT IT ALSO SEEMS 284 00:07:59,074 --> 00:08:00,408 WEIRD NOT TO BE UPSET. 285 00:08:00,475 --> 00:08:02,144 IT'S LIKE IF YOUR FRIEND TOLD 286 00:08:02,210 --> 00:08:03,645 YOU HE ONCE TOOK 300 POOPIES IN 287 00:08:03,712 --> 00:08:06,081 A SINGLE DAY WHEN HE REALLY ONLY 288 00:08:06,148 --> 00:08:07,315 TOOK 45. 289 00:08:07,382 --> 00:08:08,984 OKAY, WHY ARE YOU BRAGGING ABOUT 290 00:08:09,050 --> 00:08:10,285 THAT? 291 00:08:10,352 --> 00:08:11,720 WHY ARE YOU LYING ABOUT THAT? 292 00:08:11,786 --> 00:08:13,121 WHY DO YOU INSIST ON USING SUCH 293 00:08:13,188 --> 00:08:14,756 A REPREHENSIBLE PHRASE FOR THAT? 294 00:08:14,823 --> 00:08:16,191 AND WHY IS THE REAL NUMBER STILL 295 00:08:16,258 --> 00:08:20,362 SO UPSETTINGLY HIGH? 296 00:08:20,428 --> 00:08:23,431 NOW, ON FRIDAY, JUST FIVE DAYS 297 00:08:23,498 --> 00:08:24,766 AFTER TRUMP'S ANNOUNCEMENT 298 00:08:24,833 --> 00:08:27,235 TWEET, RATCLIFFE WAS OUT, WHICH 299 00:08:27,302 --> 00:08:28,703 WOULD BE A REMARKABLE FLAME‐OUT 300 00:08:28,770 --> 00:08:30,305 WERE IT NOT FOR THE FACT THAT 301 00:08:30,372 --> 00:08:30,872 TRUMP IS CONSTANTLY PUTTING 302 00:08:30,939 --> 00:08:32,107 FORWARD PEOPLE WHO FALL APART 303 00:08:32,174 --> 00:08:33,875 UNDER THE LEAST BIT OF SCRUTINY. 304 00:08:33,942 --> 00:08:34,743 HE'S LOST HIS PICKS TO 305 00:08:34,809 --> 00:08:36,211 ALLEGATIONS OF CONFLICTS OF 306 00:08:36,278 --> 00:08:37,312 INTEREST, PLAGIARISM, A 307 00:08:37,379 --> 00:08:39,114 WORKPLACE AFFAIR, OFFENSIVE BLOG 308 00:08:39,181 --> 00:08:41,550 POSTS, BEING AN IDIOT, BEING THE 309 00:08:41,616 --> 00:08:43,051 ACTUAL HERMAN CAIN, OR JUST 310 00:08:43,118 --> 00:08:46,421 BEING FLAMBOYANTLY UNQUALIFIED. 311 00:08:46,488 --> 00:08:47,289 AND IT'S NOT JUST RATCLIFFE IN 312 00:08:47,355 --> 00:08:48,557 THAT LAST CATEGORY. 313 00:08:48,623 --> 00:08:50,125 TRUMP ONCE NOMINATED SAM CLOVIS 314 00:08:50,192 --> 00:08:51,726 AS THE DEPARTMENT OF 315 00:08:51,793 --> 00:08:54,563 AGRICULTURE'S CHIEF SCIENTIST 316 00:08:54,629 --> 00:08:55,630 DESPITE THE FACT HE WAS NOT A 317 00:08:55,697 --> 00:08:57,165 SCIENTIST, HE WAS A TALK RADIO 318 00:08:57,232 --> 00:08:58,466 HOST. 319 00:08:58,533 --> 00:08:59,768 ALTHOUGH HE WAS PRETTY CONFIDENT 320 00:08:59,834 --> 00:09:01,736 IN HIS SCIENTIFIC INSTINCT, AS 321 00:09:01,803 --> 00:09:02,537 YOU CAN HEAR IN THIS ASSESSMENT 322 00:09:02,604 --> 00:09:04,940 OF CLIMATE CHANGE. 323 00:09:05,006 --> 00:09:06,641 >> I HAVE LOOKED AT THE SCIENCE 324 00:09:06,708 --> 00:09:08,109 AND I HAVE ENOUGH OF A SCIENCE 325 00:09:08,176 --> 00:09:10,312 BACKGROUND TO KNOW WHEN I'M 326 00:09:10,378 --> 00:09:11,413 BEING BOOFED. 327 00:09:11,479 --> 00:09:12,948 AND I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE SEE 328 00:09:13,014 --> 00:09:13,748 IS JUNK SCIENCE. 329 00:09:13,815 --> 00:09:15,050 >> John: WAIT. 330 00:09:15,116 --> 00:09:16,218 WAIT RIGHT THERE. 331 00:09:16,284 --> 00:09:17,652 HIS SCIENCE BACKGROUND TAUGHT 332 00:09:17,719 --> 00:09:19,354 HIM ABOUT BOOFING? 333 00:09:19,421 --> 00:09:20,655 WE LEARNED FROM THE 334 00:09:20,722 --> 00:09:21,957 BRETT KAVANAUGH HEARING THAT 335 00:09:22,023 --> 00:09:23,024 "BOOF" EITHER MEANS "FARTING" OR 336 00:09:23,091 --> 00:09:24,993 "ANAL SEX," SO I TRULY HOPE THAT 337 00:09:25,060 --> 00:09:27,128 CLOVIS IS AWARE OF WHEN HE'S 338 00:09:27,195 --> 00:09:29,564 BEING BOOFED, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT 339 00:09:29,631 --> 00:09:31,499 SURE THAT'S SOMETHING THEY TEACH 340 00:09:31,566 --> 00:09:33,568 YOU IN SCIENCE CLASS. 341 00:09:33,635 --> 00:09:35,136 AND YOU WOULD HOPE THAT A TRACK 342 00:09:35,203 --> 00:09:35,804 RECORD LIKE THAT WOULD EMBARRASS 343 00:09:35,870 --> 00:09:37,038 THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND 344 00:09:37,105 --> 00:09:37,672 MAKE THEM WANT TO IMPROVE THEIR 345 00:09:37,739 --> 00:09:39,040 VETTING PROCESS, BUT, AS TRUMP 346 00:09:39,107 --> 00:09:40,375 CLARIFIED ON FRIDAY, LETTING 347 00:09:40,442 --> 00:09:42,177 RANDOMLY SELECTED IDIOTS AND 348 00:09:42,244 --> 00:09:43,812 MISCREANTS BE PUBLICLY TORN 349 00:09:43,878 --> 00:09:45,747 APART BY THE NATIONAL MEDIA IS 350 00:09:45,814 --> 00:09:47,449 HIS PROCESS. 351 00:09:47,515 --> 00:09:49,150 >> NO, YOU VET FOR ME. 352 00:09:49,217 --> 00:09:50,151 I LIKE WHEN YOU VET. 353 00:09:50,218 --> 00:09:51,686 NO, NO, YOU VET. 354 00:09:51,753 --> 00:09:52,687 I THINK THE WHITE HOUSE HAS A 355 00:09:52,754 --> 00:09:54,789 GREAT VETTING PROCESS. 356 00:09:54,856 --> 00:09:56,224 YOU VET FOR ME. 357 00:09:56,291 --> 00:09:58,460 WHEN I GIVE A NAME, I GIVE IT 358 00:09:58,526 --> 00:10:00,195 OUT TO THE PRESS, AND YOU VET 359 00:10:00,262 --> 00:10:01,529 FOR ME. 360 00:10:01,596 --> 00:10:02,464 I GIVE OUT A NAME TO THE PRESS 361 00:10:02,530 --> 00:10:04,299 AND THEY VET FOR ME. 362 00:10:04,366 --> 00:10:07,068 WE SAVE A LOT OF MONEY THAT WAY. 363 00:10:07,135 --> 00:10:08,536 >> John: SO HOLD ON. 364 00:10:08,603 --> 00:10:09,504 THE PROCESS IS JUST "MAKE A 365 00:10:09,571 --> 00:10:11,172 DECISION WITHOUT THINKING AND 366 00:10:11,239 --> 00:10:11,806 TRUST THAT SOMEONE ELSE WILL DO 367 00:10:11,873 --> 00:10:13,375 YOUR JOB FOR YOU." 368 00:10:13,441 --> 00:10:14,676 HEARING "YOU VET FOR ME" FROM 369 00:10:14,743 --> 00:10:15,910 THE PRESIDENT IS ONLY SLIGHTLY 370 00:10:15,977 --> 00:10:16,845 LESS ALARMING THAN HEARING IT 371 00:10:16,911 --> 00:10:19,047 FROM AN ACTUAL VET. 372 00:10:19,114 --> 00:10:20,282 "YOU VET FOR ME. 373 00:10:20,348 --> 00:10:21,983 I DUNNO IF GUS IS FINE OR NOT. 374 00:10:22,050 --> 00:10:23,618 HERE'S HOW IT WORKS: I GIVE YOU 375 00:10:23,685 --> 00:10:24,252 THE CAT, YOU VET FOR ME, WE SAVE 376 00:10:24,319 --> 00:10:27,722 A LOT OF MONEY THAT WAY." 377 00:10:27,789 --> 00:10:29,157 THE FACT IS, DONALD TRUMP 378 00:10:29,224 --> 00:10:30,125 CHOOSES HIS CABINET AND OTHER 379 00:10:30,191 --> 00:10:31,559 POLITICAL APPOINTEES WITH ALL 380 00:10:31,626 --> 00:10:32,560 THE THOUGHT AND CARE THAT HE 381 00:10:32,627 --> 00:10:34,929 DOES EVERYTHING ELSE, WHICH IS 382 00:10:34,996 --> 00:10:36,398 TO SAY ABSOLUTELY NONE, AND 383 00:10:36,464 --> 00:10:41,269 WHILE THERE'S NOT A LOT WE CAN 384 00:10:41,336 --> 00:10:42,771 DO ABOUT THIS IN THE SHORT TERM, 385 00:10:42,837 --> 00:10:43,505 AT LEAST NEXT TIME HE ANNOUNCES 386 00:10:43,571 --> 00:10:44,306 A NEW TREMENDOUS APPOINTEE ON 387 00:10:44,372 --> 00:10:44,939 TWITTER, WE CAN ALL SAY, 388 00:10:45,006 --> 00:10:45,907 "NO WAY. 389 00:10:45,974 --> 00:10:47,542 I KNOW WHEN I'M BEING BOOFED." 390 00:10:47,609 --> 00:10:49,911 AND NOW THIS. 391 00:10:49,978 --> 00:10:51,346 >> Announcer: AND NOW, FOX NEWS' 392 00:10:51,413 --> 00:10:52,747 SHEP SMITH HAS A WEIRD FAVORITE 393 00:10:52,814 --> 00:10:54,482 EXPRESSION. 394 00:10:54,549 --> 00:10:56,251 >> I WOULD THINK HE WOULD BE 395 00:10:56,318 --> 00:10:57,686 ESPECIALLY HAPPY ABOUT THIS. 396 00:10:57,752 --> 00:10:58,920 SPEAKING OF WHICH ‐‐ 397 00:10:58,987 --> 00:11:00,388 >> HE'S BEEN DREAMING ABOUT 398 00:11:00,455 --> 00:11:01,022 HITTING THE IRANIANS SINCE FLUFF 399 00:11:01,089 --> 00:11:01,556 WAS A KITTEN. 400 00:11:01,623 --> 00:11:04,225 SHE'S A FULL‐GROWN CAT NOW. 401 00:11:04,292 --> 00:11:06,528 IT WAS TIME FOR THAT WALK ACROSS 402 00:11:06,594 --> 00:11:10,231 THE LAWN 403 00:11:10,298 --> 00:11:11,633 THAT PRESIDENTS HAVE BEEN DOING 404 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:14,035 SINCE FLUFF WAS A KITTEN. 405 00:11:14,102 --> 00:11:17,739 SHE IS A FULL‐GROWN CAT. 406 00:11:17,806 --> 00:11:18,707 THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN 407 00:11:18,773 --> 00:11:19,240 RAISING MONEY 408 00:11:19,307 --> 00:11:20,742 SINCE FLUFF WAS A KITTEN. 409 00:11:20,809 --> 00:11:21,643 SHE IS A FULL‐GROWN CAT NOW. 410 00:11:21,710 --> 00:11:22,911 >> THEY BEEN WORKING ON IT NOW 411 00:11:22,977 --> 00:11:23,445 SINCE FLUFF WAS A KITTEN. 412 00:11:23,511 --> 00:11:24,279 STEVE DOOCY HAS BEEN IN SINCE 413 00:11:24,346 --> 00:11:24,779 FLUFF WAS A KITTEN. 414 00:11:24,846 --> 00:11:25,980 SINCE FLUFF WAS A KITTEN. 415 00:11:26,047 --> 00:11:26,481 SINCE FLUFF WAS KITTEN. 416 00:11:26,548 --> 00:11:27,349 FLUFF WAS A KITTEN AND SHE'S 417 00:11:27,415 --> 00:11:27,816 FULL‐GROWN. 418 00:11:27,882 --> 00:11:28,917 FULL‐GROWN CAT. 419 00:11:28,983 --> 00:11:29,317 WHERE IS FLUFF? 420 00:11:29,384 --> 00:11:30,118 FULL‐GROWN CAT. 421 00:11:30,185 --> 00:11:31,486 TEAMS HAVE BEEN STEALING SIGNS 422 00:11:31,553 --> 00:11:32,020 SINCE FLUFF WAS A KITTEN. 423 00:11:32,087 --> 00:11:32,721 SHE'S IN A NURSING HOME NOW. 424 00:11:32,787 --> 00:11:34,556 THAT RUMOR HAS BEEN AROUND 425 00:11:34,622 --> 00:11:37,025 SINCE FLUFF WAS A KITTEN, AND 426 00:11:37,092 --> 00:11:37,826 FLUFF IS ON HER LAST LEG. 427 00:11:37,892 --> 00:11:38,860 HE'S BEEN WITH US SINCE 428 00:11:38,927 --> 00:11:39,594 WAS FLUFF WAS A KITTEN AND SHE 429 00:11:39,661 --> 00:11:44,165 IS CLOSE TO DEATH. 430 00:11:44,232 --> 00:11:44,899 AND FLUFF IS LONG‐SINCE BURIED. 431 00:11:44,966 --> 00:11:46,134 >> I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU GO 432 00:11:46,201 --> 00:11:46,768 UNTIL YOU TELL ME WHO FLUFF IS. 433 00:11:46,835 --> 00:11:47,235 >> FLUFF IS A KITTEN. 434 00:11:47,302 --> 00:11:47,802 WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FLUFF FOR 435 00:11:47,869 --> 00:11:48,370 DECADES. 436 00:11:48,436 --> 00:11:49,371 ANY TIME THINGS WERE OLD, NANA 437 00:11:49,437 --> 00:11:50,405 WOULD SAY, "THAT'S BEEN AROUND 438 00:11:50,472 --> 00:11:51,272 SINCE FLUFF WAS A KITTEN, AND 439 00:11:51,339 --> 00:11:54,876 SHE'S A FULL‐GROWN CAT." 440 00:11:54,943 --> 00:11:58,480 SO I'VE BEEN SAYING IT SINCE 441 00:11:58,546 --> 00:11:58,880 NANA. 442 00:11:58,947 --> 00:12:01,683 IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR NANA, 443 00:12:01,750 --> 00:12:03,218 IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY. 444 00:12:03,284 --> 00:12:03,785 >> I LIKE IT. 445 00:12:03,852 --> 00:12:05,053 I MIGHT START USING IT. 446 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:05,487 >> John: MOVING ON. 447 00:12:05,553 --> 00:12:06,121 OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS 448 00:12:06,187 --> 00:12:06,855 PRISON. 449 00:12:06,921 --> 00:12:07,589 IF YOU'RE, FOR SOME REASON, 450 00:12:07,655 --> 00:12:08,456 UNFAMILIAR WITH THE CONCEPT, 451 00:12:08,523 --> 00:12:11,226 I'LL LET A BELOVED CHILDREN'S 452 00:12:11,292 --> 00:12:11,893 ENTERTAINER EXPLAIN IT TO YOU 453 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:12,660 IN A CLIP THAT HAS IN NO WAY 454 00:12:12,727 --> 00:12:13,495 DATED BADLY. 455 00:12:13,561 --> 00:12:14,662 >> NOW, ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO 456 00:12:14,729 --> 00:12:16,064 ARE IN PRISON RIGHT NOW WERE 457 00:12:16,131 --> 00:12:18,700 KIDS ONCE, JUST LIKE YOU. 458 00:12:18,767 --> 00:12:20,135 AND THEN SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY 459 00:12:20,201 --> 00:12:21,703 THEY DID SOMETHING WRONG, 460 00:12:21,770 --> 00:12:23,304 SOMETHING DUMB. 461 00:12:23,371 --> 00:12:25,140 WHATEVER IT WAS, IT PROBABLY 462 00:12:25,206 --> 00:12:28,543 STARTED SMALL, BECAME BIGGER. 463 00:12:28,610 --> 00:12:29,844 MAYBE THEY EVEN GOT AWAY WITH IT 464 00:12:29,911 --> 00:12:30,645 AT FIRST AND THOUGHT THEY'D 465 00:12:30,712 --> 00:12:31,312 NEVER GET CAUGHT. 466 00:12:31,379 --> 00:12:33,047 THEY WERE WRONG. 467 00:12:33,114 --> 00:12:34,883 NOW THEY'RE IN PRISON. 468 00:12:34,949 --> 00:12:37,719 >> John: YES, THEY ARE. 469 00:12:37,786 --> 00:12:40,221 IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY SHOULD'VE 470 00:12:40,288 --> 00:12:43,992 REALLY SEEN THIS COMING. 471 00:12:44,058 --> 00:12:46,528 AND, LOOK, ON THIS SHOW, WE'VE 472 00:12:46,594 --> 00:12:47,862 TALKED ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF 473 00:12:47,929 --> 00:12:49,230 MASS INCARCERATION, BUT THIS 474 00:12:49,297 --> 00:12:50,698 STORY ISN'T SO MUCH ABOUT WHO'S 475 00:12:50,765 --> 00:12:52,000 IN PRISON OR WHETHER THEY SHOULD 476 00:12:52,066 --> 00:12:52,734 BE THERE. 477 00:12:52,801 --> 00:12:53,835 IT'S ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING 478 00:12:53,902 --> 00:12:54,469 WHILE THEY'RE INSIDE, WHICH IS 479 00:12:54,536 --> 00:12:55,069 TO SAY, BROADLY, IT'S A STORY 480 00:12:55,136 --> 00:12:55,804 ABOUT PRISON LABOR, BECAUSE OVER 481 00:12:55,870 --> 00:12:57,071 60% OF PEOPLE IN PRISON ACTUALLY 482 00:12:57,138 --> 00:12:57,705 HAVE JOBS. 483 00:12:57,772 --> 00:12:58,807 IN FACT, PRISONS ARE BASICALLY 484 00:12:58,873 --> 00:13:00,675 OPERATED BY THE INMATES, AS 485 00:13:00,742 --> 00:13:03,211 YOU'D KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN 486 00:13:03,278 --> 00:13:05,447 AN EPISODE OF "LOCKUP" ON 487 00:13:05,513 --> 00:13:06,347 MSNBC: 488 00:13:06,414 --> 00:13:07,549 >> THE MOST COMMON JOBS ARE 489 00:13:07,615 --> 00:13:08,349 WORKING IN THE KITCHEN OR SOME 490 00:13:08,416 --> 00:13:10,118 FORM OF JANITORIAL DUTY. 491 00:13:10,185 --> 00:13:11,352 >> I, YOU KNOW, CLEAN CARPET, 492 00:13:11,419 --> 00:13:14,189 VACUUM, EMPTY TRASH. 493 00:13:14,255 --> 00:13:15,423 >> I WORK IN LAUNDRY HERE FIVE 494 00:13:15,490 --> 00:13:16,925 DAYS A WEEK, MONDAY THROUGH 495 00:13:16,991 --> 00:13:17,826 FRIDAY. 496 00:13:17,892 --> 00:13:18,927 >> HE HAS RECENTLY LANDED ONE OF 497 00:13:18,993 --> 00:13:20,195 THE MOST COVETED INMATE JOBS, 498 00:13:20,261 --> 00:13:21,529 STAFF CANTEEN CLERK. 499 00:13:21,596 --> 00:13:23,131 >> I DIDN'T COME INTO PRISON 500 00:13:23,198 --> 00:13:25,600 WITH A STAFF CANTEEN JOB. 501 00:13:25,667 --> 00:13:26,868 I STARTED IN FOOD SERVICE IN THE 502 00:13:26,935 --> 00:13:28,570 DISH ROOM AND WORKED MY WAY 503 00:13:28,636 --> 00:13:30,505 RIGHT ON THROUGH THE RANKS. 504 00:13:30,572 --> 00:13:31,372 YOU KNOW, OPRAH DIDN'T START ON 505 00:13:31,439 --> 00:13:33,107 "THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW." 506 00:13:33,174 --> 00:13:34,542 SO... 507 00:13:34,609 --> 00:13:35,410 >> John: I MEAN, HE IS RIGHT, OF 508 00:13:35,477 --> 00:13:36,177 COURSE. 509 00:13:36,244 --> 00:13:37,045 OPRAH DIDN'T START ON 510 00:13:37,111 --> 00:13:38,213 "THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW." 511 00:13:38,279 --> 00:13:39,280 OPRAH STARTED WHEN A GLOWING 512 00:13:39,347 --> 00:13:40,882 MAGICAL ORB CONSOLIDATED ALL OF 513 00:13:40,949 --> 00:13:42,183 THE EARTH'S ENERGY INTO ONE 514 00:13:42,250 --> 00:13:43,351 MESMERIZING, PERFECT BEACON OF 515 00:13:43,418 --> 00:13:44,419 LIGHT. 516 00:13:44,486 --> 00:13:46,054 THEN THE LIGHT FUCKED THE ORB. 517 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,656 AND THE RESULT WAS OPRAH. 518 00:13:48,723 --> 00:13:50,024 THAT'S OPRAH'S ORIGIN STORY 519 00:13:50,091 --> 00:13:51,793 RIGHT THERE. 520 00:13:51,860 --> 00:13:53,528 BUT THERE ARE SOME MAJOR 521 00:13:53,595 --> 00:13:54,662 DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE JOBS 522 00:13:54,729 --> 00:13:56,197 PEOPLE DO IN PRISON AND THE ONES 523 00:13:56,264 --> 00:13:57,332 THEY DO ON THE OUTSIDE, 524 00:13:57,398 --> 00:13:58,600 PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO 525 00:13:58,666 --> 00:13:59,534 MONEY. 526 00:13:59,601 --> 00:14:01,035 THE AVERAGE WAGE IN PRISONS IS 527 00:14:01,102 --> 00:14:02,003 AROUND 63 CENTS PER HOUR. 528 00:14:02,070 --> 00:14:03,805 AND REMEMBER, THAT'S THE 529 00:14:03,872 --> 00:14:05,173 AVERAGE, SO THAT MEANS THERE ARE 530 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,374 STATES WHERE PRISONERS MAKE 531 00:14:06,441 --> 00:14:08,443 CONSIDERABLY LESS. 532 00:14:08,510 --> 00:14:10,211 >> IN TEXAS, GEORGIA, ARKANSAS, 533 00:14:10,278 --> 00:14:11,546 AND ALABAMA, PRISONERS ARE NOT 534 00:14:11,613 --> 00:14:13,882 PAID FOR THEIR WORK AT ALL. 535 00:14:13,948 --> 00:14:16,251 AND IN SOME PLACES, THEY'RE 536 00:14:16,317 --> 00:14:17,485 REQUIRED TO WORK UNDER THREAT OF 537 00:14:17,552 --> 00:14:19,554 DISCIPLINARY ACTION. 538 00:14:19,621 --> 00:14:20,922 IF THEY SAY, "NO, I'M NOT GONNA 539 00:14:20,989 --> 00:14:21,789 WORK," THEY CAN WRITE YOU UP FOR 540 00:14:21,856 --> 00:14:22,524 THAT. 541 00:14:22,590 --> 00:14:23,558 THEY CAN SEND YOU TO SOLITARY 542 00:14:23,625 --> 00:14:24,726 FOR THAT. 543 00:14:24,792 --> 00:14:25,693 >> THAT'S ‐‐ THAT'S ‐‐ NOW 544 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,896 THAT'S SLAVERY. 545 00:14:27,962 --> 00:14:29,197 TO ‐‐ TO WORK FOR FREE ‐‐ 546 00:14:29,264 --> 00:14:31,332 >> YEAH, UNDER HARASSMENT. 547 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:33,201 >> AND THEN THEY CAN ‐‐ AND THEY 548 00:14:33,268 --> 00:14:34,402 CAN PUT YOU IN SOLITARY IF YOU 549 00:14:34,469 --> 00:14:35,003 DON'T WORK OR WRITE YOU UP FOR 550 00:14:35,069 --> 00:14:35,637 NOT WORKING? 551 00:14:35,703 --> 00:14:37,171 FOR FREE? 552 00:14:37,238 --> 00:14:41,543 WHY IS THAT NOT SLAVERY? 553 00:14:41,609 --> 00:14:43,211 >> John: YEAH, THAT'S NOT GOOD. 554 00:14:43,278 --> 00:14:43,778 BECAUSE "WHY IS THAT NOT 555 00:14:43,845 --> 00:14:44,579 SLAVERY?" IS ONE OF THOSE 556 00:14:44,646 --> 00:14:47,815 QUESTIONS THAT, IF YOU EVEN HAVE 557 00:14:47,882 --> 00:14:48,950 TO ASK IT, SOMETHING HAS ALREADY 558 00:14:49,017 --> 00:14:49,517 GONE VERY WRONG. 559 00:14:49,584 --> 00:14:50,385 LIKE, "HOW MANY SWASTIKA 560 00:14:50,451 --> 00:14:51,853 TATTOOS?" 561 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,154 OR "WHICH OF MOMMY'S NIGHTSTAND 562 00:14:53,221 --> 00:14:55,189 DRAWERS DID YOU OPEN?" 563 00:14:55,256 --> 00:14:55,924 THINGS ARE ALREADY BAD; WE JUST 564 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:58,459 NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW BAD. 565 00:14:58,526 --> 00:15:00,795 AND THE ANSWER TO "WHY IS THIS 566 00:15:00,862 --> 00:15:02,397 NOT SLAVERY" IS, "WELL, IT'S NOT 567 00:15:02,463 --> 00:15:04,365 EXACTLY NOT SLAVERY." 568 00:15:04,432 --> 00:15:05,600 BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT TREATING 569 00:15:05,667 --> 00:15:06,801 PRISONERS AS SLAVES IS LITERALLY 570 00:15:06,868 --> 00:15:07,735 WRITTEN INTO THE CONSTITUTION. 571 00:15:07,802 --> 00:15:08,970 THE THIRTEENTH AMENDMENT STATES 572 00:15:09,037 --> 00:15:10,338 THAT SLAVERY IS ABOLISHED EXCEPT 573 00:15:10,405 --> 00:15:12,540 AS A PUNISHMENT FOR A CRIME. 574 00:15:12,607 --> 00:15:13,942 AND THE AMENDMENT ABOLISHING 575 00:15:14,008 --> 00:15:19,380 SLAVERY IS NOT THE ONE YOU WANT 576 00:15:19,447 --> 00:15:23,384 TO INCLUDE THE WORD "EXCEPT." 577 00:15:23,451 --> 00:15:24,586 AND LOOK, I KNOW THAT, TO MANY, 578 00:15:24,652 --> 00:15:25,486 INMATES ARE NOT A NATURALLY 579 00:15:25,553 --> 00:15:26,054 SYMPATHETIC GROUP OF PEOPLE. 580 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:26,688 IN FACT, WHEN THERE WAS A PUSH 581 00:15:26,754 --> 00:15:27,622 TO GET A HIGHER WAGE FOR THOSE 582 00:15:27,689 --> 00:15:28,423 WORKING BEHIND BARS A FEW YEARS 583 00:15:28,489 --> 00:15:29,023 AGO, THESE PEOPLE ON FOX FOUND 584 00:15:29,090 --> 00:15:31,459 IT HILARIOUS. 585 00:15:31,526 --> 00:15:36,631 >> INMATES BEHIND BARS ARE NOW 586 00:15:36,698 --> 00:15:37,231 SUING FOR THE MINIMUM WAGE FOR 587 00:15:37,298 --> 00:15:37,865 THE WORK THEY ARE DOING BEHIND 588 00:15:37,932 --> 00:15:38,066 BARS. 589 00:15:38,132 --> 00:15:39,334 SHOULD THAT BE A CRIME? 590 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:39,934 >> HE SAYS HE DESERVES MINIMUM 591 00:15:40,001 --> 00:15:40,902 WAGE. 592 00:15:40,969 --> 00:15:43,171 AS IF CRIME PAYS. 593 00:15:43,237 --> 00:15:44,339 >> WHY LET CRIME PAY? 594 00:15:44,405 --> 00:15:45,573 >> EXACTLY. 595 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,209 CRIME SHOULD NOT PAY 596 00:15:48,276 --> 00:15:49,210 IT'S VERY SIMPLE. 597 00:15:49,277 --> 00:15:52,780 COMMON SENSE IS VERY SIMPLE. 598 00:15:52,847 --> 00:15:55,016 >> John: "EHH, COMMON SENSE, 599 00:15:55,083 --> 00:15:56,618 VERY SIMPLE." 600 00:15:56,684 --> 00:15:58,119 FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU WATCH THAT 601 00:15:58,186 --> 00:15:59,821 ON MUTE, YOU'LL DEFINITELY 602 00:15:59,887 --> 00:16:00,321 ASSUME IT WAS A PANEL ON 603 00:16:00,388 --> 00:16:01,022 ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION. 604 00:16:01,089 --> 00:16:04,425 AND EVEN WITH THE SOUND ON, YOU 605 00:16:04,492 --> 00:16:05,893 CAN'T DEFINITELY SAY IT'S NOT. 606 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,594 BUT IN A WAY, I GET IT. 607 00:16:06,661 --> 00:16:07,462 "CRIME DOESN'T PAY" DOES SOUND 608 00:16:07,528 --> 00:16:08,563 LIKE COMMON SENSE, BUT IT'S 609 00:16:08,630 --> 00:16:09,797 MUCH, MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN 610 00:16:09,864 --> 00:16:10,732 THAT. 611 00:16:10,798 --> 00:16:11,766 THE TRUTH IS, WHEN YOU COMBINE 612 00:16:11,833 --> 00:16:14,669 THE LOW TO NONEXISTENT WAGES 613 00:16:14,736 --> 00:16:18,006 THAT PRISONERS GET PAID WITH THE 614 00:16:18,072 --> 00:16:19,841 THEY AND 615 00:16:19,907 --> 00:16:22,477 SURPRISINGLY HIGH COSTS THAT 616 00:16:22,543 --> 00:16:24,479 THEY AND THEIR FAMILIES CAN 617 00:16:24,545 --> 00:16:26,381 INCUR WHILE THEY'RE INSIDE, THE 618 00:16:26,447 --> 00:16:27,815 CURRENT SYSTEM CAN WIND UP 619 00:16:27,882 --> 00:16:29,017 COSTING ALL OF US. 620 00:16:29,083 --> 00:16:29,651 AND TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK 621 00:16:29,717 --> 00:16:30,218 INTO HOW PRISONERS MAKE AND 622 00:16:30,284 --> 00:16:30,952 SPEND MONEY AND THE COMPANIES 623 00:16:31,019 --> 00:16:31,552 THAT HAVE MANAGED TO GET RICH 624 00:16:31,619 --> 00:16:31,819 OFF THEM. 625 00:16:31,886 --> 00:16:32,487 AND LET'S START WITH THE FACT 626 00:16:32,553 --> 00:16:33,321 THAT PRISON LABOR CAN TAKE MANY 627 00:16:33,388 --> 00:16:33,788 FORMS. 628 00:16:33,855 --> 00:16:34,822 IT IS OFTEN THE JANITORIAL OR 629 00:16:34,889 --> 00:16:35,423 KITCHEN WORK YOU SAW EARLIER, 630 00:16:35,490 --> 00:16:36,024 BUT IN SOME STATES, PRISONERS 631 00:16:36,090 --> 00:16:36,891 ACTUALLY WORK AS FIREFIGHTERS. 632 00:16:36,958 --> 00:16:37,792 IN FACT, IN THE CALIFORNIA 633 00:16:37,859 --> 00:16:38,426 WILDFIRES LAST YEAR, AROUND 12% 634 00:16:38,493 --> 00:16:39,327 OF THE FIREFIGHTERS WERE CURRENT 635 00:16:39,394 --> 00:16:50,271 INMATES. 636 00:16:50,338 --> 00:16:50,905 AND I SHOULD SAY, MANY OF THEM 637 00:16:50,972 --> 00:16:51,606 FIND FIGHTING FIRES VERY 638 00:16:51,673 --> 00:16:52,507 REWARDING. 639 00:16:52,573 --> 00:16:53,808 >> JUST THE OTHER DAY, WE WERE 640 00:16:53,875 --> 00:16:54,475 ABLE TO SAVE HOUSES FROM ‐‐ FROM 641 00:16:54,542 --> 00:16:55,276 BURNING DOWN. 642 00:16:55,343 --> 00:16:57,145 TO HAVE A WOMAN COME OUT TO HER 643 00:16:57,211 --> 00:16:58,379 BACKYARD AND THANK US FOR SAVING 644 00:16:58,446 --> 00:17:00,114 HER HOUSE MAKES US FEEL LIKE 645 00:17:00,181 --> 00:17:01,716 WE'RE DOING SOMETHING. 646 00:17:01,783 --> 00:17:05,620 NOW BEING ABLE TO GIVE BACK AND 647 00:17:05,687 --> 00:17:08,923 POTENTIALLY SAVE LIVES IS ‐‐ 648 00:17:08,990 --> 00:17:13,061 IT'S HUGE. 649 00:17:13,127 --> 00:17:13,861 >> John: YEAH, AND THAT MAKES 650 00:17:13,928 --> 00:17:14,729 SENSE. 651 00:17:14,796 --> 00:17:15,797 BEING ABLE TO SAVE LIVES MUST BE 652 00:17:15,863 --> 00:17:17,031 VERY SATISFYING. 653 00:17:17,098 --> 00:17:18,066 IT'S WHY BATMAN IS ALWAYS SEEMS 654 00:17:18,132 --> 00:17:19,133 TO BE IN SUCH A GOOD MOOD. 655 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,001 AND WHY HIS CATCHPHRASE IS, 656 00:17:20,068 --> 00:17:20,835 "WHEEEEE! 657 00:17:20,902 --> 00:17:21,969 I'M BATMAN! 658 00:17:22,036 --> 00:17:22,704 HOW GREAT IS FIGHTING CRIME? 659 00:17:22,770 --> 00:17:23,104 IT'S GREAT! 660 00:17:23,171 --> 00:17:27,075 I LOVE IT!" 661 00:17:27,141 --> 00:17:28,710 AND THAT HONESTLY FEELS LIKE THE 662 00:17:28,776 --> 00:17:29,377 BEST‐CASE SCENARIO FOR PRISON 663 00:17:29,444 --> 00:17:30,545 LABOR: PEOPLE WHO ARE HAPPY TO 664 00:17:30,611 --> 00:17:31,579 WORK, CONTRIBUTING TO SOCIETY, 665 00:17:31,646 --> 00:17:36,117 AND LEARNING NEW SKILLS. 666 00:17:36,184 --> 00:17:37,185 ALTHOUGH IT IS WORTH NOTING, 667 00:17:37,251 --> 00:17:38,686 THOSE FIREFIGHTERS' BASE PAY IS 668 00:17:38,753 --> 00:17:39,954 ONLY BETWEEN $3 AND $5 PER DAY 669 00:17:40,021 --> 00:17:41,422 FOR THAT DANGEROUS WORK. 670 00:17:41,489 --> 00:17:42,890 AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, "WELL, 671 00:17:42,957 --> 00:17:43,691 AT LEAST THEY'RE LEARNING SKILLS 672 00:17:43,758 --> 00:17:44,759 THAT'LL HELP THEM GET A JOB ON 673 00:17:44,826 --> 00:17:45,960 THE OUTSIDE," THAT IS OFTEN NOT 674 00:17:46,027 --> 00:17:46,728 THE CASE. 675 00:17:46,794 --> 00:17:47,862 CALIFORNIA LAW BARS MOST PEOPLE 676 00:17:47,929 --> 00:17:49,464 WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD FROM 677 00:17:49,530 --> 00:17:50,598 BECOMING LICENSED EMERGENCY 678 00:17:50,665 --> 00:17:51,866 RESPONDERS, WHICH MEANS THAT 679 00:17:51,933 --> 00:17:53,067 BEING A FIREFIGHTER IN PRISON IS 680 00:17:53,134 --> 00:17:54,836 NOT UNLIKE BEING AN ART HISTORY 681 00:17:54,902 --> 00:17:57,605 MAJOR IN COLLEGE. 682 00:17:57,672 --> 00:17:58,940 IT MAY BE FUN WHILE YOU'RE IN 683 00:17:59,006 --> 00:17:59,941 THERE, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO 684 00:18:00,007 --> 00:18:01,375 BE DOING IT ONCE YOU GET OUT. 685 00:18:01,442 --> 00:18:02,543 DO YOU HEAR THAT, THESSALY? 686 00:18:02,610 --> 00:18:09,617 YOU'RE GONNA WORK IN 687 00:18:09,684 --> 00:18:11,619 HUMAN RESOURCES, YOU'RE GONNA 688 00:18:11,686 --> 00:18:14,455 HAVE A FAVORITE COFFEE MUG AND A 689 00:18:14,522 --> 00:18:17,358 THROW PILLOW THAT SAYS 690 00:18:17,425 --> 00:18:19,293 "IT'S WINE O'CLOCK SOMEWHERE," 691 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:21,028 AND YOU'RE GOING TO STARE OUT 692 00:18:21,095 --> 00:18:21,662 THE WINDOW YEARNING FOR THE 693 00:18:21,729 --> 00:18:22,463 SWEET RELEASE OF DEATH 694 00:18:22,530 --> 00:18:23,464 JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. 695 00:18:23,531 --> 00:18:24,198 AND INCIDENTALLY, FIGHTING FIRES 696 00:18:24,265 --> 00:18:24,999 IS FAR FROM THE ONLY DANGEROUS 697 00:18:25,066 --> 00:18:25,967 JOB PRISONERS DO. 698 00:18:26,033 --> 00:18:27,435 AT LOUISIANA STATE PENITENTIARY, 699 00:18:27,502 --> 00:18:27,969 SOME TAKE PART IN A PRISON 700 00:18:28,035 --> 00:18:28,636 RODEO, WHERE THE ENTERTAINMENT 701 00:18:28,703 --> 00:18:30,037 CAN BE INSANE. 702 00:18:30,104 --> 00:18:32,473 >> TAKE CONVICT POKER. 703 00:18:32,540 --> 00:18:34,208 FOUR INMATES SIT NERVOUSLY AT A 704 00:18:34,275 --> 00:18:36,611 CARD TABLE WHILE A VERY RESTLESS 705 00:18:36,677 --> 00:18:40,381 BULL PICKS OUT HIS TARGET. 706 00:18:40,448 --> 00:18:42,083 THE LAST ONE STANDING OR SITTING 707 00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:43,284 WINS. 708 00:18:43,351 --> 00:18:44,886 >> SO WHY DO YOU DO THIS? 709 00:18:44,952 --> 00:18:46,788 >> MONEY. 710 00:18:46,854 --> 00:18:48,022 I'M BROKE. 711 00:18:48,089 --> 00:18:49,757 I'M TRYING TO GET A PRIVATE 712 00:18:49,824 --> 00:18:51,159 INVESTIGATOR ON MY CASE. 713 00:18:51,225 --> 00:18:53,094 >> HE EARNS TWO CENTS AN HOUR 714 00:18:53,161 --> 00:18:54,362 WORKING IN THE PRISON FIELDS BUT 715 00:18:54,428 --> 00:18:55,496 HE CAN EARN HUNDREDS OUT IN THAT 716 00:18:55,563 --> 00:19:04,872 MUD. 717 00:19:04,939 --> 00:19:05,673 >> John: HOLY SHIT! 718 00:19:05,740 --> 00:19:06,340 THAT IS TRULY SHOCKING. 719 00:19:06,407 --> 00:19:07,475 ALSO ‐‐ AND, LOOK, THIS REALLY 720 00:19:07,542 --> 00:19:08,109 ISN'T THE BIGGEST ISSUE THERE ‐‐ 721 00:19:08,176 --> 00:19:09,310 IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GAME 722 00:19:09,377 --> 00:19:10,545 WHERE A BULL ATTACKS A GROUP OF 723 00:19:10,611 --> 00:19:11,279 PEOPLE, YOU DON'T NAME IT 724 00:19:11,345 --> 00:19:12,380 "CONVICT POKER." 725 00:19:12,446 --> 00:19:14,448 YOU NAME IT "DODGE BULL." 726 00:19:14,515 --> 00:19:16,851 AGAIN, NOT THE BIGGEST ISSUE. 727 00:19:16,918 --> 00:19:18,953 NOT THE BIGGEST ISSUE. 728 00:19:19,020 --> 00:19:24,325 BUT I DID WANT TO BRING IT UP. 729 00:19:24,392 --> 00:19:25,593 AND BEING ATTACKED BY A BULL FOR 730 00:19:25,660 --> 00:19:26,160 ENTERTAINMENT IS CLEARLY AN 731 00:19:26,227 --> 00:19:26,527 OUTLIER. 732 00:19:26,594 --> 00:19:27,295 MOST PRISONERS ARE DOING ROUTINE 733 00:19:27,361 --> 00:19:28,529 LABOR FOR LITTLE TO NO MONEY. 734 00:19:28,596 --> 00:19:32,166 THE PROBLEM IS, THAT CAN LEAD TO 735 00:19:32,233 --> 00:19:33,868 THEM BEING SEEN LESS AS HUMANS 736 00:19:33,935 --> 00:19:34,502 PAYING THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY 737 00:19:34,569 --> 00:19:35,369 AND MORE AS A POOL OF VIRTUALLY 738 00:19:35,436 --> 00:19:36,003 FREE LABOR. 739 00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:36,637 AND DON'T TAKE THAT FROM ME ‐‐ 740 00:19:36,704 --> 00:19:37,538 LISTEN TO LOUISIANA SHERIFF 741 00:19:37,605 --> 00:19:38,673 STEVE PRATOR. 742 00:19:38,739 --> 00:19:40,074 WHEN THE STATE, AS PART OF A 743 00:19:40,141 --> 00:19:42,210 PRISON REFORM PROGRAM, STARTED 744 00:19:42,276 --> 00:19:43,044 RELEASING SOME INMATES, HE WENT 745 00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:44,512 PUBLIC WITH AN UNUSUAL 746 00:19:44,579 --> 00:19:46,547 COMPLAINT: 747 00:19:46,614 --> 00:19:48,416 >> IN ADDITION TO THE BAD ONES, 748 00:19:48,482 --> 00:19:49,884 AND I CALL THESE BAD ‐‐ IN 749 00:19:49,951 --> 00:19:51,352 ADDITION TO THEM, THEY'RE 750 00:19:51,419 --> 00:19:53,988 RELEASING SOME GOOD ONES THAT WE 751 00:19:54,055 --> 00:19:56,657 USE EVERY DAY TO ‐‐ TO WASH 752 00:19:56,724 --> 00:19:57,758 CARS, TO CHANGE OIL IN OUR CARS, 753 00:19:57,825 --> 00:19:59,794 TO COOK IN THE KITCHENS, TO DO 754 00:19:59,861 --> 00:20:01,128 ALL THAT WHERE WE SAVE MONEY. 755 00:20:01,195 --> 00:20:01,996 WELL, THEY'RE GONNA LET THEM 756 00:20:02,063 --> 00:20:08,402 OUT. 757 00:20:08,469 --> 00:20:09,203 THE ONES THAT WE USE IN THE 758 00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:10,371 WORK RELEASE PROGRAM, THEY'RE 759 00:20:10,438 --> 00:20:13,641 GONNA LET THEM OUT. 760 00:20:13,708 --> 00:20:14,709 >> John: JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT 761 00:20:14,775 --> 00:20:15,943 HE'S SAYING THERE. 762 00:20:16,010 --> 00:20:18,312 HE'S SAYING SOME PEOPLE NEED TO 763 00:20:18,379 --> 00:20:19,881 STAY BEHIND BARS BECAUSE THEY'RE 764 00:20:19,947 --> 00:20:20,915 TOO VALUABLE AS A SOURCE OF FREE 765 00:20:20,982 --> 00:20:22,083 LABOR, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE SAME 766 00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:22,950 PLAN AS THE VILLAIN IN 767 00:20:23,017 --> 00:20:23,517 "THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION." 768 00:20:23,584 --> 00:20:24,485 NORMALLY TO QUALIFY AS A 769 00:20:24,552 --> 00:20:25,286 STEPHEN KING VILLAIN YOU HAVE TO 770 00:20:25,353 --> 00:20:25,887 BE SOMETHING WAY LESS STUPID, 771 00:20:25,953 --> 00:20:27,355 LIKE AN EVIL CAR OR A GUY WHO 772 00:20:27,421 --> 00:20:29,590 FORGOT TO WEAR A COAT. 773 00:20:29,657 --> 00:20:31,392 AND LOOK, MANY PRISONERS DO 774 00:20:31,459 --> 00:20:32,326 PREFER HAVING JOBS TO JUST 775 00:20:32,393 --> 00:20:34,528 SITTING IN THEIR CELLS ALL DAY, 776 00:20:34,595 --> 00:20:35,863 WHICH, AGAIN, MAKES SENSE. 777 00:20:35,930 --> 00:20:37,398 SO GETTING RID OF PRISON LABOR 778 00:20:37,465 --> 00:20:39,066 ENTIRELY IS NOT THE ANSWER HERE. 779 00:20:39,133 --> 00:20:41,636 PAYING PRISONERS MORE MIGHT 780 00:20:41,702 --> 00:20:42,703 HELP, ALTHOUGH THAT WILL BE VERY 781 00:20:42,770 --> 00:20:45,206 DIFFICULT. 782 00:20:45,273 --> 00:20:46,807 PRISONS ARE NOW SO RELIANT ON 783 00:20:46,874 --> 00:20:47,575 THEIR LABOR, MOVING TO A 784 00:20:47,642 --> 00:20:48,609 COMPETITIVE WAGE COULD COST 785 00:20:48,676 --> 00:20:50,111 HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS 786 00:20:50,177 --> 00:20:54,115 EACH YEAR. 787 00:20:54,181 --> 00:20:55,950 AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE THOSE 788 00:20:56,017 --> 00:20:57,351 OUT THERE WHO MIGHT SAY, "WHAT 789 00:20:57,418 --> 00:20:58,254 DO PRISONERS EVEN NEED MONEY 790 00:20:58,254 --> 00:20:58,652 FOR?" 791 00:20:58,653 --> 00:20:59,220 BUT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION 792 00:20:59,287 --> 00:21:00,621 IS ACTUALLY REALLY IMPORTANT 793 00:21:00,688 --> 00:21:01,255 HERE, BECAUSE WHILE IT MAY SEEM 794 00:21:01,322 --> 00:21:01,889 LIKE YOU'RE LIVING FOR FREE IN 795 00:21:01,956 --> 00:21:03,591 PRISON, YOU MAY ACTUALLY HAVE A 796 00:21:03,658 --> 00:21:05,159 LOT OF EXPENSES, LIKE LEGAL FEES 797 00:21:05,226 --> 00:21:06,494 OR BASIC NECESSITIES, LIKE SOAP 798 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,229 OR SHAMPOO. 799 00:21:08,296 --> 00:21:09,964 AND AS LAWMAKERS IN ARIZONA 800 00:21:10,031 --> 00:21:11,799 RECENTLY DISCOVERED, PRISONS 801 00:21:11,866 --> 00:21:13,167 THERE WERE ACTUALLY REQUIRING 802 00:21:13,234 --> 00:21:14,168 WOMEN TO BUY PERSONAL HYGIENE 803 00:21:14,235 --> 00:21:16,037 PRODUCTS. 804 00:21:16,103 --> 00:21:17,338 >> THERE'S A NEW BILL IN THE 805 00:21:17,405 --> 00:21:18,873 LEGISLATURE THAT WOULD HAVE THE 806 00:21:18,940 --> 00:21:19,674 STATE PAY FOR ALL FEMININE 807 00:21:19,740 --> 00:21:20,975 HYGIENE PRODUCTS. 808 00:21:21,042 --> 00:21:22,810 >> AND FIRST TO HEAR THE 809 00:21:22,877 --> 00:21:23,577 PROPOSAL, A COMMITTEE OF NINE 810 00:21:23,644 --> 00:21:24,879 MEN, SOME OF THEM A BIT 811 00:21:24,946 --> 00:21:25,880 SQUEAMISH ABOUT TAKING ON THE 812 00:21:25,947 --> 00:21:27,181 TASK. 813 00:21:27,248 --> 00:21:28,683 >> I GUESS HEARING THE BILL WAS 814 00:21:28,749 --> 00:21:32,219 SOMETHING I DIDN'T EXPECT. 815 00:21:32,286 --> 00:21:35,156 I DIDN'T EXPECT TO HEAR PADS AND 816 00:21:35,222 --> 00:21:36,924 TAMPONS AND ‐‐ AND THE PROBLEMS 817 00:21:36,991 --> 00:21:42,063 OF PERIODS. 818 00:21:42,129 --> 00:21:43,764 >> John: OKAY, OKAY, SO TWO 819 00:21:43,831 --> 00:21:44,498 THINGS THERE: 820 00:21:44,565 --> 00:21:46,267 FIRST, "THE PROBLEM OF PERIODS" 821 00:21:46,334 --> 00:21:47,001 SOUNDS LIKE THE TITLE OF A 822 00:21:47,068 --> 00:21:48,502 MEDICAL TEXTBOOK WRITTEN BACK IN 823 00:21:48,569 --> 00:21:49,503 THE TIME WHEN WE USED TO TREAT 824 00:21:49,570 --> 00:21:50,338 FEMALE EMOTIONS WITH EITHER 825 00:21:50,404 --> 00:21:51,706 ELECTROCUTION OR DROWNING. 826 00:21:51,772 --> 00:21:53,507 AND SECOND, I AM FRANKLY SHOCKED 827 00:21:53,574 --> 00:21:54,275 THAT THE MAN WHO WILLINGLY CHOSE 828 00:21:54,342 --> 00:21:55,743 THAT HAIRCUT ISN'T MORE OF AN 829 00:21:55,810 --> 00:21:59,013 EXPERT ON WOMEN. 830 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,781 BUT THE FACT IS, UNTIL LAST 831 00:22:00,848 --> 00:22:02,283 YEAR, ARIZONA'S FEMALE PRISONERS 832 00:22:02,350 --> 00:22:03,751 WERE ALLOTTED JUST 12 PADS PER 833 00:22:03,818 --> 00:22:08,856 MONTH, WHICH AS I'M GONNA SAY AT 834 00:22:08,923 --> 00:22:09,790 LEAST HALF OF YOU KNOW OFTEN 835 00:22:09,857 --> 00:22:11,492 ISN'T NEARLY ENOUGH. 836 00:22:11,559 --> 00:22:12,793 AND EXTRA HYGIENE PRODUCTS WERE 837 00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:13,761 NOT A MINOR EXPENSE. 838 00:22:13,828 --> 00:22:16,263 BASE PAY FOR PRISONERS STARTS AT 839 00:22:16,330 --> 00:22:18,532 15 CENTS AN HOUR, WHICH MEANT TO 840 00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:19,600 BUY ONE ADDITIONAL PACK OF PADS 841 00:22:19,667 --> 00:22:22,303 TOOK ABOUT 21 HOURS OF WORK. 842 00:22:22,370 --> 00:22:23,637 AND IN THEORY, WOMEN WHO NEEDED 843 00:22:23,704 --> 00:22:24,972 MORE COULD SIMPLY ASK PRISON 844 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:26,140 GUARDS OR GET A MEDICAL 845 00:22:26,207 --> 00:22:28,075 DISPENSATION, BUT THE PROBLEM 846 00:22:28,142 --> 00:22:30,611 IS, IN ARIZONA, AS IN MANY 847 00:22:30,678 --> 00:22:32,079 PLACES, PRISONERS ALSO HAVE TO 848 00:22:32,146 --> 00:22:34,315 PAY A CO‐PAY TO SEE A DOCTOR. 849 00:22:34,382 --> 00:22:35,282 AND I'LL LET A FORMER PRISONER 850 00:22:35,349 --> 00:22:37,118 ADDRESSING THAT PANEL TELL YOU 851 00:22:37,184 --> 00:22:38,619 HOW THAT WORKED OUT IN REALITY: 852 00:22:38,686 --> 00:22:42,323 >> THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, IF 853 00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:43,991 I WANT TO REQUEST THE MEDICAL 854 00:22:44,058 --> 00:22:46,660 RIGHT TO GET MORE PADS BECAUSE, 855 00:22:46,727 --> 00:22:47,928 SAY, I HAVE A HEAVIER FLOW THIS 856 00:22:47,995 --> 00:22:49,330 MONTH THAN LAST MONTH, I WOULD 857 00:22:49,397 --> 00:22:50,264 HAVE TO PAY $4 JUST TO BE SEEN 858 00:22:50,331 --> 00:22:51,198 BY MEDICAL. 859 00:22:51,265 --> 00:22:52,867 NOW, WHEN I'M MAKING 9 CENTS 860 00:22:52,933 --> 00:22:54,402 AFTER TAX, YOU GOTTA REALLY 861 00:22:54,468 --> 00:22:55,770 THINK IF I WANT TO PUT MY WHOLE 862 00:22:55,836 --> 00:22:58,706 MONTH'S INCOME INTO HOPEFULLY 863 00:22:58,773 --> 00:22:59,640 BEING ALLOWED ‐‐ APPROVED FOR 864 00:22:59,707 --> 00:23:00,508 EXTRA PADS IF THEY BELIEVE I 865 00:23:00,574 --> 00:23:02,143 DESERVE IT. 866 00:23:02,209 --> 00:23:03,878 >> John: LOOK, NOT ONLY IS IT 867 00:23:03,944 --> 00:23:05,379 UTTERLY RIDICULOUS THAT SHE 868 00:23:05,446 --> 00:23:07,381 NEEDS TO PAY TO MAKE A CASE THAT 869 00:23:07,448 --> 00:23:11,252 SHE DESERVES ACCESS TO PADS, 870 00:23:11,318 --> 00:23:12,987 JUST SPARE A THOUGHT FOR HER 871 00:23:13,054 --> 00:23:14,388 HAVING TO DISCUSS THE DETAILS OF 872 00:23:14,455 --> 00:23:15,589 A HEAVY FLOW INTO THIS 873 00:23:15,656 --> 00:23:16,624 BEWILDERED FACE. 874 00:23:16,690 --> 00:23:17,825 SO IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT FOR 875 00:23:17,892 --> 00:23:18,959 MANY PRISONERS THERE IS AN 876 00:23:19,026 --> 00:23:20,327 ENORMOUS GAP BETWEEN WHAT THEY 877 00:23:20,394 --> 00:23:27,101 MAKE AT THEIR PRISON JOB AND 878 00:23:27,168 --> 00:23:27,835 HAVING ENOUGH FOR BASIC 879 00:23:27,902 --> 00:23:28,536 NECESSITIES. 880 00:23:28,602 --> 00:23:29,537 NOW, IF THEY ARE LUCKY, THEY 881 00:23:29,603 --> 00:23:30,271 MIGHT HAVE FAMILY OR OTHERS ON 882 00:23:30,337 --> 00:23:31,539 THE OUTSIDE WILLING TO HELP THEM 883 00:23:31,605 --> 00:23:32,139 OUT BY SENDING THEM MONEY, BUT 884 00:23:32,206 --> 00:23:33,441 EVEN THAT IS MORE COMPLICATED 885 00:23:33,507 --> 00:23:34,108 THAN IT APPEARS, AND THIS BRINGS 886 00:23:34,175 --> 00:23:34,942 US TO THE FINAL ABSURD ELEMENT 887 00:23:35,009 --> 00:23:35,943 HERE, THE FOR‐PROFIT COMPANIES 888 00:23:36,010 --> 00:23:36,944 WHO STAND BETWEEN PRISONERS AND 889 00:23:37,011 --> 00:23:39,046 THE OUTSIDE WORLD. 890 00:23:39,113 --> 00:23:40,047 BECAUSE LET'S SAY THAT YOU WANT 891 00:23:40,114 --> 00:23:41,449 TO SEND MONEY TO YOUR 892 00:23:41,515 --> 00:23:43,384 INCARCERATED SON OR DAUGHTER. 893 00:23:43,451 --> 00:23:44,685 ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPANIES 894 00:23:44,752 --> 00:23:45,719 THAT LETS FAMILIES DO THAT IS 895 00:23:45,786 --> 00:23:47,054 JPAY. 896 00:23:47,121 --> 00:23:48,823 BUT THERE'S A CATCH. 897 00:23:48,889 --> 00:23:50,758 >> IN LOTS OF STATES, FAMILIES 898 00:23:50,825 --> 00:23:51,826 HAVE TO GO THROUGH JPAY TO SEND 899 00:23:51,892 --> 00:23:53,994 MONEY INTO A PRISON AT ALL. 900 00:23:54,061 --> 00:23:55,796 FOR ALMOST 450,000 FAMILIES, 901 00:23:55,863 --> 00:23:58,399 JPAY IS THE ONLY WAY TO SEND AN 902 00:23:58,466 --> 00:23:59,133 INMATE MONEY, AND THE COMPANY 903 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,035 CHARGES THEM FEES AS HIGH AS 904 00:24:01,102 --> 00:24:02,336 45%. 905 00:24:02,403 --> 00:24:04,038 >> TO GIVE TO HIM $50, I HAVE TO 906 00:24:04,105 --> 00:24:05,573 SEND $70 OFF OF MY CARD. 907 00:24:05,639 --> 00:24:07,441 >> IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE LIKE 908 00:24:07,508 --> 00:24:08,342 PAT TAYLOR WHO ARE BARELY 909 00:24:08,409 --> 00:24:09,610 SCRAPING BY. 910 00:24:09,677 --> 00:24:11,612 >> I JUST LET A BILL GO. 911 00:24:11,679 --> 00:24:13,047 I LET A BILL GO AND PICK IT UP 912 00:24:13,114 --> 00:24:14,849 LATER 913 00:24:14,915 --> 00:24:15,616 >> John: IT'S TRUE, IT COSTS HER 914 00:24:15,683 --> 00:24:21,655 $20 JUST TO SEND $50. 915 00:24:21,722 --> 00:24:22,890 YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS: 916 00:24:22,957 --> 00:24:23,457 LOOK OUT, TICKETMASTER. 917 00:24:23,524 --> 00:24:24,391 WHEN IT COMES TO DICKISH 918 00:24:24,458 --> 00:24:25,025 TRANSACTION FEES, THERE'S A NEW 919 00:24:25,092 --> 00:24:27,628 ASSHOLE IN TOWN. 920 00:24:27,695 --> 00:24:28,796 AND CHARGING FAMILIES TO 921 00:24:28,863 --> 00:24:30,498 TRANSFER MONEY ISN'T THE ONLY 922 00:24:30,564 --> 00:24:33,968 WAY COMPANIES CAN PROFIT ‐‐ 923 00:24:34,034 --> 00:24:35,169 JPAY'S PARENT COMPANY, SECURUS, 924 00:24:35,236 --> 00:24:35,836 IS ALSO A LEADER IN THE FIELD OF 925 00:24:35,903 --> 00:24:37,571 CHARGING PRISONERS FOR PHONE 926 00:24:37,638 --> 00:24:39,507 CALLS AND VIDEO VISITS, WHICH IS 927 00:24:39,573 --> 00:24:42,209 A $1.2 BILLION A YEAR INDUSTRY. 928 00:24:42,276 --> 00:24:44,378 SECURUS HAS ADS WHICH PLAY LIKE 929 00:24:44,445 --> 00:24:46,614 A SHITTY APPLE COMMERCIAL BUT 930 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,982 MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S A WARM, 931 00:24:48,048 --> 00:24:50,050 FUZZY COMPANY FOCUSED ON HUMAN 932 00:24:50,117 --> 00:24:54,722 CONNECTIONS. 933 00:24:54,788 --> 00:24:57,725 ARE FULLY ACKNOWLEDGING HOW 934 00:24:57,791 --> 00:25:02,329 IMPORTANT IT IS 935 00:25:02,396 --> 00:25:03,731 FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT TO OTHERS 936 00:25:03,797 --> 00:25:05,399 ON THE PHONE. 937 00:25:05,466 --> 00:25:06,367 IT'S A LESSON AT&T WOULD DO WELL 938 00:25:06,433 --> 00:25:06,935 TO TAKE. 939 00:25:06,936 --> 00:25:07,300 BOOM! 940 00:25:07,301 --> 00:25:07,868 SUCK IT, BUSINESS DADDY! 941 00:25:07,935 --> 00:25:08,536 BUSINESS BABY AIN'T NEVER 942 00:25:08,602 --> 00:25:09,503 GETTING IN LINE. 943 00:25:09,570 --> 00:25:11,238 THIS BABY RIDES DIRTY. 944 00:25:11,305 --> 00:25:12,106 WHAA‐WHAA! 945 00:25:12,173 --> 00:25:15,709 DON'T RUB MY TUMMY. 946 00:25:15,776 --> 00:25:17,478 WHAA! 947 00:25:17,545 --> 00:25:18,546 WHAT THAT AD DOESN'T MAKE CLEAR 948 00:25:18,612 --> 00:25:19,280 IS JUST HOW EXPENSIVE THEY'VE 949 00:25:19,346 --> 00:25:20,114 SUCCESSFULLY MADE THOSE VITAL 950 00:25:20,181 --> 00:25:21,649 CONNECTIONS. 951 00:25:21,715 --> 00:25:22,683 PHONE CALLS WITHIN STATES CAN GO 952 00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:24,018 OVER $1 PER MINUTE, AND 953 00:25:24,084 --> 00:25:25,619 FACILITIES SERVED BY SECURUS 954 00:25:25,686 --> 00:25:28,422 HAVE HAD FEES OVER $3 FOR THE 955 00:25:28,489 --> 00:25:30,591 FIRST MINUTE AND 16 CENTS FOR 956 00:25:30,658 --> 00:25:31,559 EACH ADDITIONAL ONE, AND THAT 957 00:25:31,625 --> 00:25:36,297 CAN REALLY ADD UP, WHICH CAN BE 958 00:25:36,363 --> 00:25:37,131 A MASSIVE PROBLEM FOR PRISONERS' 959 00:25:37,198 --> 00:25:37,765 FAMILIES, WHO MAY HAVE LIMITED 960 00:25:37,831 --> 00:25:38,632 RESOURCES. 961 00:25:38,699 --> 00:25:39,667 >> SHAYNA PALLES IS MARRIED TO A 962 00:25:39,733 --> 00:25:41,268 MAN WHO IS CURRENTLY FACING A 963 00:25:41,335 --> 00:25:42,136 SEVEN‐AND‐A‐HALF YEAR SENTENCE 964 00:25:42,203 --> 00:25:43,270 IN PRISON. 965 00:25:43,337 --> 00:25:44,238 PALLES HAS BEEN PAYING HIGH 966 00:25:44,305 --> 00:25:45,539 TELEPHONE FEES TRYING TO KEEP 967 00:25:45,606 --> 00:25:47,074 HER DAUGHTER CONNECTED TO HER 968 00:25:47,141 --> 00:25:47,908 FATHER HOWEVER SHE CAN. 969 00:25:47,975 --> 00:25:49,577 >> WHERE'D DAD GO? 970 00:25:49,643 --> 00:25:51,345 >> DADDY! 971 00:25:51,412 --> 00:25:53,047 >> BUT AT $6 A CALL, KEEPING 972 00:25:53,113 --> 00:25:54,148 THAT CONNECTION ISN'T EASY. 973 00:25:54,215 --> 00:25:55,249 >> YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT 974 00:25:55,316 --> 00:25:56,684 NOT SEE $6 A DAY AS A LOT, BUT 975 00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:57,918 WHEN YOU HAVE AN INFANT, YOU 976 00:25:57,985 --> 00:25:59,486 KNOW, $6 A DAY IS HALF OF, YOU 977 00:25:59,553 --> 00:26:02,156 KNOW, A PACK OF DIAPERS. 978 00:26:02,223 --> 00:26:03,691 >> John: AND THAT IS ROUGH. 979 00:26:03,757 --> 00:26:08,262 YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO CHOOSE 980 00:26:08,329 --> 00:26:09,029 BETWEEN LETTING YOUR KID TALK TO 981 00:26:09,096 --> 00:26:10,064 HER DAD AND BUYING THEM DIAPERS. 982 00:26:10,130 --> 00:26:11,265 THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE 983 00:26:11,332 --> 00:26:11,999 DEFINITION OF A SHITTY, SHITTY 984 00:26:12,066 --> 00:26:13,634 SITUATION. 985 00:26:13,701 --> 00:26:14,768 AND IF YOU CURTAIL OR REMOVE 986 00:26:14,835 --> 00:26:15,869 THAT CONNECTION, IT CAN HAVE 987 00:26:15,936 --> 00:26:17,171 SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES ON LIFE 988 00:26:17,238 --> 00:26:18,472 INSIDE THE PRISON, AS THOSE 989 00:26:18,539 --> 00:26:21,175 WHO'VE BEEN THERE CAN TELL YOU. 990 00:26:21,242 --> 00:26:23,277 >> ALL A LOT OF GUYS HAVE WHEN 991 00:26:23,344 --> 00:26:24,445 THEY'RE INCARCERATED ARE THOSE 992 00:26:24,511 --> 00:26:25,813 PHONE CALLS, THOSE LETTERS, 993 00:26:25,879 --> 00:26:26,714 THOSE VISITS. 994 00:26:26,780 --> 00:26:27,982 THAT'S IT. 995 00:26:28,048 --> 00:26:29,250 THAT'S WHAT THEY LIVE FOR. 996 00:26:29,316 --> 00:26:30,851 THAT'S HOW THEY GET THROUGH 997 00:26:30,918 --> 00:26:32,219 THEIR TIME. 998 00:26:32,286 --> 00:26:33,320 I'VE SEEN GUYS, THEIR FAMILY 999 00:26:33,387 --> 00:26:34,622 DIDN'T COME SEE THEM IN A WEEK 1000 00:26:34,688 --> 00:26:35,222 OR TWO, AND THE NEXT THING YOU 1001 00:26:35,289 --> 00:26:36,056 KNOW, THEY ENDED UP IN THE HOLE 1002 00:26:36,123 --> 00:26:37,157 FOR 90 DAYS, 'CAUSE THEY JUST 1003 00:26:37,224 --> 00:26:37,625 FELT ALONE. 1004 00:26:37,691 --> 00:26:38,592 'CAUSE YOU FEEL ALONE. 1005 00:26:38,659 --> 00:26:39,526 YOU CAN'T BUILD A FAMILY IN 1006 00:26:39,593 --> 00:26:40,160 PRISON. 1007 00:26:40,227 --> 00:26:41,395 >> John: HE'S RIGHT. 1008 00:26:41,462 --> 00:26:42,363 CONTACT WITH FAMILIES IS 1009 00:26:42,429 --> 00:26:43,564 INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. 1010 00:26:43,631 --> 00:26:45,699 AND COMPLETELY UNRELATED, "IN 1011 00:26:45,766 --> 00:26:47,167 THE HOLE FOR 90 DAYS" IS ALSO 1012 00:26:47,234 --> 00:26:50,404 HOW STING DESCRIBES A QUICKIE. 1013 00:26:50,471 --> 00:26:54,308 AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, "WELL, 1014 00:26:54,375 --> 00:26:55,342 HOLD ON, MAYBE FAMILIES CAN GET 1015 00:26:55,409 --> 00:26:56,844 AROUND PHONE CHARGES JUST BY 1016 00:26:56,910 --> 00:26:58,112 VISITING THEIR LOVED ONES IN 1017 00:26:58,178 --> 00:26:58,746 PERSON," THEY CAN, ALTHOUGH THAT 1018 00:26:58,812 --> 00:27:01,248 IS CHANGING TOO. 1019 00:27:01,315 --> 00:27:02,383 PRISONS AND ESPECIALLY JAILS 1020 00:27:02,449 --> 00:27:03,450 HAVE BEEN PHASING OUT IN‐PERSON 1021 00:27:03,517 --> 00:27:04,385 VISITS IN FAVOR OF VIDEO 1022 00:27:04,451 --> 00:27:05,919 VISITATION, MEANING YOU CAN TURN 1023 00:27:05,986 --> 00:27:07,388 UP TO SEE A LOVED ONE AND STILL 1024 00:27:07,454 --> 00:27:08,355 HAVE TO SIT IN A DIFFERENT ROOM 1025 00:27:08,422 --> 00:27:10,190 AND TALK TO THEM ON A SCREEN. 1026 00:27:10,257 --> 00:27:12,493 INCREDIBLY, THIS IS SOMETHING 1027 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:13,994 SECURUS HAS CONTRACTUALLY 1028 00:27:14,061 --> 00:27:15,696 MANDATED. 1029 00:27:15,763 --> 00:27:16,964 UP UNTIL 2015, SOME OF THEIR 1030 00:27:17,031 --> 00:27:18,065 CONTRACTS WITH FACILITIES HAD 1031 00:27:18,132 --> 00:27:19,199 THEM PROMISE TO ELIMINATE ALL 1032 00:27:19,266 --> 00:27:20,334 FACE‐TO‐FACE VISITATION. 1033 00:27:20,401 --> 00:27:22,636 AND THAT IS JUST EVIL. 1034 00:27:22,703 --> 00:27:23,704 "MACHINE THAT MAKES MONEY BY 1035 00:27:23,771 --> 00:27:24,905 STOPPING PEOPLE FROM SEEING 1036 00:27:24,972 --> 00:27:26,740 THEIR FAMILIES" SOUNDS LIKE AN 1037 00:27:26,807 --> 00:27:28,208 ITEM AT THE TOP OF 1038 00:27:28,275 --> 00:27:29,977 SATAN'S AMAZON WISHLIST, RIGHT 1039 00:27:30,044 --> 00:27:31,812 BEFORE "SUPER‐BEDBUGS," 1040 00:27:31,879 --> 00:27:33,013 "CAULIFLOWER RICE," AND "JUST 1041 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:38,152 THE ACTUAL EXISTENCE OF AMAZON." 1042 00:27:38,218 --> 00:27:39,420 AND WHILE THIS SOUNDS INHUMANE, 1043 00:27:39,486 --> 00:27:42,623 THE PEOPLE RUNNING THESE 1044 00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:43,257 FACILITIES WILL INSIST THAT THE 1045 00:27:43,324 --> 00:27:43,891 REASON FOR IT IS PURELY A SAFETY 1046 00:27:43,957 --> 00:27:44,725 ISSUE. 1047 00:27:44,792 --> 00:27:46,393 >> IF YOU LIMIT THE PEOPLE WHO 1048 00:27:46,460 --> 00:27:47,728 ARE COMING IN, YOU'RE GOING TO 1049 00:27:47,795 --> 00:27:48,595 LIMIT THE ATTEMPTS OF 1050 00:27:48,662 --> 00:27:49,363 CONTRABAND. 1051 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:50,331 >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT 1052 00:27:50,397 --> 00:27:51,165 CONTRABAND. 1053 00:27:51,231 --> 00:27:52,366 >> IF YOU'RE DOING A VIDEO 1054 00:27:52,433 --> 00:27:53,000 VISIT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE 1055 00:27:53,067 --> 00:27:54,636 TO INTRODUCE CONTRABAND INTO THE 1056 00:27:54,637 --> 00:27:55,001 JAIL. 1057 00:27:55,002 --> 00:27:55,803 >> John: OKAY, I GET IT. 1058 00:27:55,869 --> 00:27:57,271 SO IT'S A CONTRABAND ISSUE. 1059 00:27:57,338 --> 00:27:58,038 THE PROBLEM WITH THAT 1060 00:27:58,105 --> 00:27:59,273 EXPLANATION IS THAT RESEARCH 1061 00:27:59,340 --> 00:28:03,677 SHOWS THAT INSTALLING VIDEO 1062 00:28:03,744 --> 00:28:04,445 VISITATION DOES NOT DECREASE 1063 00:28:04,511 --> 00:28:05,479 CONTRABAND, PROBABLY IT'S EASIER 1064 00:28:05,546 --> 00:28:06,413 FOR IT TO COME IN THROUGH OTHER 1065 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,147 WAYS, LIKE THROUGH GUARDS, 1066 00:28:07,214 --> 00:28:07,915 STAFF, AND OCCASIONALLY THROUGH 1067 00:28:07,981 --> 00:28:08,849 OWLS. 1068 00:28:08,916 --> 00:28:10,551 ALTHOUGH ADMITTEDLY, THAT IS 1069 00:28:10,617 --> 00:28:12,953 MOSTLY AN AZKABAN PROBLEM. 1070 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:14,455 SO WHY PUSH VIDEO VISITATION SO 1071 00:28:14,521 --> 00:28:15,756 HARD? 1072 00:28:15,823 --> 00:28:20,527 IT IS DIFFICULT TO SAY. 1073 00:28:20,594 --> 00:28:22,262 I WILL POINT OUT IT SEEMS 1074 00:28:22,329 --> 00:28:25,265 NOTABLE THAT JAILS AND PRISONS 1075 00:28:25,332 --> 00:28:25,899 OFTEN GET A CUT OF THE PROCEEDS 1076 00:28:25,966 --> 00:28:26,467 FROM PHONE AND VIDEO CALLS. 1077 00:28:26,533 --> 00:28:27,534 AND WHILE THEY WILL POINT OUT 1078 00:28:27,601 --> 00:28:30,070 THE MONEY GOES INTO AN 1079 00:28:30,137 --> 00:28:31,171 INMATE WELFARE FUND, THAT FUND 1080 00:28:31,238 --> 00:28:31,772 IS OFTEN USED FOR THINGS OTHER 1081 00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:32,239 THAN INMATE WELFARE. 1082 00:28:32,306 --> 00:28:33,073 ONE COUNTY SPENT NEARLY 1083 00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:34,007 THREE‐QUARTERS OF THAT MONEY ON 1084 00:28:34,074 --> 00:28:34,908 STAFF SALARIES, WHILE ANOTHER 1085 00:28:34,975 --> 00:28:37,644 DIPPED INTO IT TO BUY TASERS. 1086 00:28:37,711 --> 00:28:40,080 TASERS! 1087 00:28:40,147 --> 00:28:41,515 WHICH REALLY STRETCHES THE 1088 00:28:41,582 --> 00:28:43,050 DEFINITION OF "INMATE WELFARE" 1089 00:28:43,117 --> 00:28:46,420 TO A LITERALLY SHOCKING DEGREE. 1090 00:28:46,487 --> 00:28:47,521 AND WHEN YOU PUT ALL OF THIS 1091 00:28:47,588 --> 00:28:48,188 TOGETHER, YOU WIND UP WITH A 1092 00:28:48,255 --> 00:28:48,922 SCENARIO WHERE YOU'RE NOT JUST 1093 00:28:48,989 --> 00:28:49,823 HURTING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE 1094 00:28:49,890 --> 00:28:50,624 INCARCERATED, YOU'RE HURTING 1095 00:28:50,691 --> 00:28:52,159 EVERYONE AROUND THEM. 1096 00:28:52,226 --> 00:28:54,728 ONE IN THREE FAMILIES OF INMATES 1097 00:28:54,795 --> 00:28:55,896 REPORTED GOING INTO DEBT TO PAY 1098 00:28:55,963 --> 00:28:57,698 FOR PHONE CALLS OR VISITATION, 1099 00:28:57,765 --> 00:28:58,999 WHICH IS TERRIBLE, AND THAT 1100 00:28:59,066 --> 00:29:00,801 DOESN'T REALLY SET UP A PRISONER 1101 00:29:00,868 --> 00:29:01,902 FOR SUCCESS ONCE THEY ARE 1102 00:29:01,969 --> 00:29:03,804 RELEASED. 1103 00:29:03,871 --> 00:29:04,872 LOOK, THE CURRENT SYSTEM OF LOW 1104 00:29:04,938 --> 00:29:06,607 WAGES AND HIGH COSTS IS CLEARLY 1105 00:29:06,673 --> 00:29:08,509 NO GOOD FOR ANYONE BUT THE 1106 00:29:08,575 --> 00:29:10,010 COMPANIES WHO ARE SOMEHOW 1107 00:29:10,077 --> 00:29:10,577 MANAGING TO MASSIVELY PROFIT 1108 00:29:10,644 --> 00:29:14,581 FROM IT. 1109 00:29:14,648 --> 00:29:15,449 AND THERE ARE THINGS WE THAT CAN 1110 00:29:15,516 --> 00:29:16,116 DO HERE, SMALL AND LARGE. 1111 00:29:16,183 --> 00:29:17,251 NEW YORK CITY RECENTLY MADE 1112 00:29:17,317 --> 00:29:18,619 PHONE CALLS FROM JAILS FREE, 1113 00:29:18,685 --> 00:29:22,656 AND CONNECTICUT WILL CONSIDER 1114 00:29:22,723 --> 00:29:23,457 SIMILAR LEGISLATION NEXT YEAR. 1115 00:29:23,524 --> 00:29:24,558 AND IF WE WANT TO MAKE BIGGER 1116 00:29:24,625 --> 00:29:26,326 CHANGES, LIKE PAYING PRISONERS 1117 00:29:26,393 --> 00:29:31,265 MORE, WE COULD DO THAT, ALTHOUGH 1118 00:29:31,331 --> 00:29:32,766 AS I'VE SAID, IT WOULD 1119 00:29:32,833 --> 00:29:34,201 UNDENIABLY BE INCREDIBLY 1120 00:29:34,268 --> 00:29:39,540 EXPENSIVE AND VERY UNPOPULAR. 1121 00:29:39,606 --> 00:29:40,207 YOU SAW PEOPLE ARGUE: CRIME 1122 00:29:40,274 --> 00:29:40,741 DOESN'T PAY ‐‐ THAT'S JUST 1123 00:29:40,808 --> 00:29:41,275 COMMON SENSE. 1124 00:29:41,341 --> 00:29:42,476 BUT PART OF THE WAY MASS 1125 00:29:42,543 --> 00:29:43,043 INCARCERATION PERSISTS IS BY 1126 00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:43,710 KEEPING THE TRUE COSTS OF IT OFF 1127 00:29:43,777 --> 00:29:44,344 THE BOOKS, AND WE'RE DOING THAT 1128 00:29:44,411 --> 00:29:44,845 THROUGH A COMBINATION OF 1129 00:29:44,912 --> 00:29:45,479 UNDERPAID LABOR FROM PRISONERS 1130 00:29:45,546 --> 00:29:46,113 THEMSELVES, FINANCIALLY DRAINING 1131 00:29:46,180 --> 00:29:47,281 FAMILIES WHO'VE ABSOLUTELY DONE 1132 00:29:47,347 --> 00:29:48,515 NOTHING WRONG, AND OCCASIONALLY 1133 00:29:48,582 --> 00:29:50,250 MANAGING TO MONETIZE PRISONERS 1134 00:29:50,317 --> 00:29:52,653 BEING LAUNCHED INTO THE FUCKING 1135 00:29:52,719 --> 00:29:57,825 AIR WITH LIVESTOCK. 1136 00:29:57,891 --> 00:29:58,625 ARGUE 1137 00:29:58,692 --> 00:29:59,259 WE'VE COME A LONG, LONG WAY FROM 1138 00:29:59,326 --> 00:30:00,427 COMMON SENSE. 1139 00:30:00,494 --> 00:30:01,829 AND NOW THIS. 1140 00:30:01,895 --> 00:30:02,930 >> Announcer: AND NOW, WHAT THE 1141 00:30:02,996 --> 00:30:04,164 FUCK IS GOING ON WITH 1142 00:30:04,231 --> 00:30:06,500 NEW YORK CITY'S RACCOONS? 1143 00:30:06,567 --> 00:30:10,070 >> RACCOONS RUNNING AMOK, 1144 00:30:10,137 --> 00:30:15,142 BREAKING INTO HOMES, 1145 00:30:15,209 --> 00:30:16,677 HELPING THEMSELVES TO FOOD, 1146 00:30:16,743 --> 00:30:17,311 AND LEAVING A BIG MESS. 1147 00:30:17,377 --> 00:30:18,479 >> ON MOST NIGHTS IN THIS QUIET 1148 00:30:18,545 --> 00:30:19,213 CORNER OF CENTRAL PARK, A 1149 00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:19,780 FEEDING FRENZY TAKES PLACE. 1150 00:30:19,847 --> 00:30:22,649 >> THEY EAT BREAD. 1151 00:30:22,716 --> 00:30:30,290 THEY LIKE PIZZA. 1152 00:30:30,357 --> 00:30:31,492 >> THESE RACCOONS DON'T BEHAVE 1153 00:30:31,493 --> 00:30:31,858 NORMALLY. 1154 00:30:31,859 --> 00:30:32,426 THEY ARE OUT DURING THE DAYTIME 1155 00:30:32,493 --> 00:30:33,026 WHEN THEY SHOULD BE SLEEPING. 1156 00:30:33,093 --> 00:30:33,894 >> HE STOOD ON TWO LEGS AND HE 1157 00:30:33,895 --> 00:30:34,261 HISSED AT ME. 1158 00:30:34,294 --> 00:30:34,962 >> GOTTEN SO BAD. 1159 00:30:35,028 --> 00:30:36,096 THIS 3‐YEAR‐OLD MALTESE 1160 00:30:36,163 --> 00:30:38,232 SNOWBALL, WHO USED TO LOVE TO 1161 00:30:38,298 --> 00:30:38,866 PLAY OUTSIDE, IT IS NOT IN HIS 1162 00:30:38,932 --> 00:30:39,533 OWN HOME. 1163 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,267 >> HE REFUSES TO GO OUT IN THE 1164 00:30:40,334 --> 00:30:40,934 YARD. 1165 00:30:41,001 --> 00:30:41,702 >> RACCOON EXPERTS ARE NOT 1166 00:30:41,768 --> 00:30:42,503 SURPRISED. 1167 00:30:42,569 --> 00:30:43,303 >> ONCE THEY'VE BEEN TRAPPED IN 1168 00:30:43,370 --> 00:30:44,037 A TRAP ONCE, THEY WILL KNOW NOT 1169 00:30:44,104 --> 00:30:45,305 TO GO IN THAT TRAP AGAIN. 1170 00:30:45,372 --> 00:30:46,139 >> FROM THE WINDOW, HE HEADED TO 1171 00:30:46,206 --> 00:30:50,777 THE PANTRY, OPENED UP THE DOOR, 1172 00:30:50,844 --> 00:30:51,512 UNSCREWED IT, AND HELPED 1173 00:30:51,578 --> 00:30:52,513 HIMSELF. 1174 00:30:52,579 --> 00:30:53,580 DIDN'T STOP THERE. 1175 00:30:53,647 --> 00:30:55,516 ATE PEANUTS AND WASHED HIS PAWS 1176 00:30:55,582 --> 00:30:58,685 IN THE CAT'S DISH. 1177 00:30:58,752 --> 00:30:59,319 >> THEY ALSO SAW THAT A RACCOON 1178 00:30:59,386 --> 00:30:59,920 ACTUALLY REMOVED THE WRAPPER 1179 00:30:59,987 --> 00:31:05,025 FROM A LOLLIPOP. 1180 00:31:05,092 --> 00:31:06,059 >> WHAT, DO THEY HAVE THE HANDS? 1181 00:31:06,126 --> 00:31:06,660 >> A CALLER REPORTED SEEING A 1182 00:31:06,727 --> 00:31:07,227 TIGER ROAMING THE STREETS IN 1183 00:31:07,294 --> 00:31:08,195 WASHINGTON HEIGHTS. 1184 00:31:08,262 --> 00:31:08,962 >> YOU SEE ALL SORTS OF THINGS 1185 00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:09,696 OUT HERE. 1186 00:31:09,763 --> 00:31:10,364 CAN'T TELL YOU MUCH ABOUT SEEING 1187 00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:11,164 A TIGER. 1188 00:31:11,231 --> 00:31:11,832 >> CONFIRMED IT WAS A TIGER? 1189 00:31:11,899 --> 00:31:14,301 >> IT WAS A RACCOON. 1190 00:31:14,368 --> 00:31:15,636 >> IT WASN'T A TIGER. 1191 00:31:15,702 --> 00:31:20,407 IT WAS A RACCOON. 1192 00:31:20,474 --> 00:31:21,141 >> WHAT? 1193 00:31:21,208 --> 00:31:21,775 >> John: THAT'S OUR SHOW. 1194 00:31:21,842 --> 00:31:22,376 THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. 1195 00:31:22,442 --> 00:31:23,176 SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. 1196 00:31:23,243 --> 00:31:24,244 GOOD NIGHT!