1 00:00:05,500 --> 00:00:12,500 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:21,733 --> 00:00:25,666 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:25,666 --> 00:00:30,833 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 4 00:00:30,833 --> 00:00:32,700 John: WELCOME, WELCOME, 5 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:33,733 WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT!" 6 00:00:33,733 --> 00:00:37,366 I'M JOHN OLIVER. 7 00:00:37,366 --> 00:00:38,933 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING 8 00:00:38,933 --> 00:00:40,700 US. 9 00:00:40,700 --> 00:00:41,333 IT HAS BEEN A BUSY WEEK. 10 00:00:41,333 --> 00:00:41,966 THE WHITE HOUSE HOSTED THE PRIME 11 00:00:41,966 --> 00:00:42,566 MINISTER OF JAPAN, OJ SIMPSON 12 00:00:42,566 --> 00:00:43,966 DIED-- MAY HIS MEMORY BE A 13 00:00:43,966 --> 00:00:45,300 BLESSING. 14 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:46,300 AND SOUTH KOREA HELD 15 00:00:46,300 --> 00:00:46,966 PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS. 16 00:00:47,066 --> 00:00:51,833 AND IF YOU'VE NEVER SEEN SOUTH 17 00:00:51,833 --> 00:00:54,066 KOREAN ELECTION COVERAGE BEFORE, 18 00:00:54,066 --> 00:00:54,966 THEY GO ALL OUT WITH THE 19 00:00:54,966 --> 00:00:55,600 GRAPHICS. 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:56,233 ONLY 300 SEATS ARE AVAILABLE 21 00:00:56,233 --> 00:00:56,866 ON THE TRAIN, AND ONLY ONE SEAT 22 00:00:56,866 --> 00:00:57,500 IS AVAILABLE FOR GYEONGGI HANAM 23 00:00:57,500 --> 00:00:57,666 GAP. 24 00:00:57,666 --> 00:00:58,966 DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHU MI-AE 25 00:00:58,966 --> 00:01:00,566 VERSUS PEOPLE'S POWER LEE YONG. 26 00:01:00,566 --> 00:01:01,833 CANDIDATE LEE YONG IS CURRENTLY 27 00:01:01,833 --> 00:01:04,200 IN FIRST PLACE WITH 71.4% OF THE 28 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:04,400 VOTE. 29 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,133 WILL AHN CHEOL-SOO'S RUN 30 00:01:05,133 --> 00:01:05,866 CONTINUE? 31 00:01:05,866 --> 00:01:07,266 CANDIDATE LEE KWANG-JAE ENTERS 32 00:01:07,266 --> 00:01:09,600 THE RACE IN SEONGNAM BUNDANG 33 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,300 GAP. 34 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:12,733 AHN CHEOL-SOO, PEOPLE'S POWER, 35 00:01:12,733 --> 00:01:14,300 CURRENTLY IN FIRST PLACE WITH 36 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:17,166 62%. 37 00:01:17,166 --> 00:01:18,900 John: WOW, THIS MAY BE THE 38 00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:20,733 FIRST TIME I'M GOING TO SAY THIS 39 00:01:20,833 --> 00:01:23,500 AND ACTUALLY MEAN IT, BUT COOL! 40 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:24,400 THEY USED CANDIDATES IN SOUTH 41 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,000 KOREA'S PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS 42 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,766 TO RECREATE THE CLIMAX OF 43 00:01:27,766 --> 00:01:29,233 "MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: DEAD 44 00:01:29,233 --> 00:01:29,833 RECKONING PART ONE," AND THEY 45 00:01:29,833 --> 00:01:31,000 WENT ALL OUT. 46 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,833 THEY EVEN HAD A CANDIDATE 47 00:01:31,833 --> 00:01:33,033 PARACHUTING DOWN TOWARDS THE 48 00:01:33,033 --> 00:01:37,333 TRAIN AND KICKING IN THROUGH A 49 00:01:37,333 --> 00:01:38,833 WINDOW, AND OTHERS FLYING AROUND 50 00:01:38,833 --> 00:01:39,400 WITH JET PACKS, WHILE STILL 51 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,100 OTHER THEMED COVERAGE HAD 52 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:42,533 CANDIDATES COLLECTING BALLOTS IN 53 00:01:42,533 --> 00:01:44,966 BUCKETS ON THEIR HEADS, ALL 54 00:01:44,966 --> 00:01:45,866 WHILE A GIANT FACELESS BEAR WENT 55 00:01:45,866 --> 00:01:47,433 SURFING AND ROAMED THE 56 00:01:47,433 --> 00:01:48,433 COUNTRYSIDE, BEFORE LOOMING 57 00:01:48,433 --> 00:01:49,500 BEHIND TWO PRESENTERS, 58 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:51,366 PRESUMABLY FIGURING OUT WHICH 59 00:01:51,366 --> 00:01:54,666 ONE TO EAT FIRST. 60 00:01:54,766 --> 00:01:55,766 THAT IS MAGNIFICENT. 61 00:01:55,866 --> 00:01:56,966 AND WHAT DO WE GET INSTEAD? 62 00:01:56,966 --> 00:01:58,266 STEVE KORNACKI WITH HIS SLEEVES 63 00:01:58,266 --> 00:02:01,200 ROLLED UP TOUCHING A SCREEN? 64 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,800 WE'RE DOING THIS WRONG! 65 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:04,966 WE'RE DOING ALL OF THIS WRONG! 66 00:02:04,966 --> 00:02:05,700 AND WHILE I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT 67 00:02:05,700 --> 00:02:07,000 SOUTH KOREAN ELECTION GRAPHICS 68 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,033 ALL NIGHT, SADLY, WE HAVE TO 69 00:02:09,033 --> 00:02:10,666 TURN TO ARIZONA. 70 00:02:10,666 --> 00:02:11,900 BECAUSE THIS WEEK, IT DID THIS. 71 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:13,300 THE ARIZONA SUPREME COURT 72 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:15,566 RULED TODAY THAT A NEAR TOTAL 73 00:02:15,566 --> 00:02:17,500 ABORTION BAN ON THE BOOKS IN 74 00:02:17,500 --> 00:02:19,066 ARIZONA SINCE THE CIVIL WAR IS 75 00:02:19,066 --> 00:02:21,333 ENFORCEABLE. 76 00:02:21,333 --> 00:02:24,466 UNDER THE LONG-DORMANT 1864 LAW, 77 00:02:24,466 --> 00:02:25,666 ABORTION IS A FELONY. 78 00:02:25,666 --> 00:02:28,000 PERFORMING OR ASSISTING A WOMAN 79 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:29,366 WITH HAVING ONE IS PUNISHABLE BY 80 00:02:29,466 --> 00:02:30,266 IMPRISONMENT. 81 00:02:30,266 --> 00:02:31,733 John: YEAH, ALL OF THAT IS 82 00:02:31,733 --> 00:02:32,900 HORRIFYING, INCLUDING THE FACT 83 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:34,666 THAT ANY KIND OF MEDICAL 84 00:02:34,666 --> 00:02:36,766 PROCEDURE IS BEING DICTATED BY A 85 00:02:36,766 --> 00:02:39,633 LAW FROM THE 1800S-- AN ERA 86 00:02:39,633 --> 00:02:41,366 WHEN DOCTORS PRESCRIBED, AND 87 00:02:41,366 --> 00:02:42,600 THIS IS TRUE, CHLOROFORM FOR 88 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,733 ASTHMA, COCAINE FOR HAY FEVER, 89 00:02:44,733 --> 00:02:45,333 AND TOBACCO SMOKE ENEMAS FOR 90 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:46,400 CHOLERA. 91 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,633 AND BY THE WAY, NO, THANK YOU. 92 00:02:47,633 --> 00:02:49,033 I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND DIE FROM 93 00:02:49,033 --> 00:02:49,666 THE CHOLERA IF IT'S ALL THE SAME 94 00:02:49,666 --> 00:02:51,966 TO YOU. 95 00:02:51,966 --> 00:02:53,800 THE POINT IS, IT WAS CLEARLY A 96 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,100 DIFFERENT ERA BACK THEN-- AS A 97 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:58,700 CNN ANCHOR TRIED, UNNECESSARILY, 98 00:02:58,700 --> 00:02:59,333 TO EXPLAIN TO ONE OF HIS GUESTS. 99 00:02:59,333 --> 00:03:00,133 YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN 100 00:03:00,233 --> 00:03:01,266 STRATEGIST, DO YOU REALLY WANT 101 00:03:01,366 --> 00:03:04,766 STATES GOING BACK TO CIVIL 102 00:03:04,766 --> 00:03:05,466 WAR-ERA LAWS ON REPRODUCTIVE 103 00:03:05,466 --> 00:03:06,833 FREEDOM? 104 00:03:06,833 --> 00:03:08,566 I MEAN, WOMEN DIDN'T HAVE THE 105 00:03:08,566 --> 00:03:09,633 RIGHT TO VOTE AT THAT POINT. 106 00:03:09,633 --> 00:03:11,133 THIS SOUNDS LIKE KRYPTONITE. 107 00:03:11,133 --> 00:03:13,166 THIS SOUNDS TOXIC FOR 108 00:03:13,166 --> 00:03:14,433 REPUBLICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 109 00:03:14,433 --> 00:03:16,133 JIM, I DON'T WANT STATES 110 00:03:16,133 --> 00:03:17,800 GOING BACK TO PRE-CIVIL WAR ON 111 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:18,600 ANY ISSUE, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS 112 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,133 HERE, RIGHT? 113 00:03:20,133 --> 00:03:21,500 POINT TAKEN. 114 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:22,566 John: YEAH, I HOPE THE 115 00:03:22,566 --> 00:03:29,633 POINT'S TAKEN! 116 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:33,066 I LOVE THE CLUELESSNESS OF 117 00:03:33,066 --> 00:03:33,600 LOOKING AT A BLACK MAN AND 118 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,200 SAYING THAT THE 1860S WERE BAD 119 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:34,800 BECAUSE "WOMEN DIDN'T HAVE THE 120 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:35,200 RIGHT TO VOTE." 121 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:35,766 TRUE, BUT ALSO: MAYBE NOT THE 122 00:03:35,866 --> 00:03:36,400 WORST THING PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE 123 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:36,933 THE RIGHT TO DO BACK THEN. 124 00:03:36,933 --> 00:03:37,533 IT'S WORTH TAKING A MOMENT ON 125 00:03:37,533 --> 00:03:39,333 JUST HOW ARCANE THIS LAW REALLY 126 00:03:39,333 --> 00:03:39,500 IS. 127 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:40,366 IT WAS WRITTEN AS PART OF THE 128 00:03:40,366 --> 00:03:41,600 FIRST SET OF LAWS FOR THE 129 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,733 ARIZONA TERRITORY, WHICH ALSO 130 00:03:42,733 --> 00:03:48,333 LEGALIZED CONSENSUAL SEX WITH A 131 00:03:48,333 --> 00:03:49,400 10-YEAR-OLD, AND SPELLED OUT 132 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:49,900 THE CRIME OF "EXCUSABLE 133 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:50,400 HOMICIDE," WHICH INCLUDE 134 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:50,933 SITUATIONS LIKE WHEN DEATH 135 00:03:50,933 --> 00:03:51,600 OCCURS WHILE "A PARENT IS 136 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:52,133 MODERATELY CORRECTING HIS 137 00:03:52,133 --> 00:03:57,533 CHILD." 138 00:03:57,533 --> 00:03:58,366 SO JUST TO RECAP 19TH 139 00:03:58,366 --> 00:03:58,933 CENTURY ARIZONA LAW: ABORT A 140 00:03:58,933 --> 00:03:59,133 FETUS? 141 00:03:59,133 --> 00:03:59,766 FELONY. 142 00:03:59,766 --> 00:04:00,333 SLEEP WITH A FIFTH-GRADER? 143 00:04:00,333 --> 00:04:00,533 FINE. 144 00:04:00,533 --> 00:04:01,133 MURDER YOUR CHILD FOR PISSING 145 00:04:01,133 --> 00:04:02,733 YOU OFF? 146 00:04:02,733 --> 00:04:05,066 THAT'S OKAY, AS LONG AS YOU'RE 147 00:04:05,066 --> 00:04:06,033 MODERATE AND DON'T MAKE IT INTO 148 00:04:06,033 --> 00:04:07,066 A WHOLE THING. 149 00:04:07,066 --> 00:04:08,466 NOW, IT'S UNCLEAR EXACTLY WHEN 150 00:04:08,566 --> 00:04:09,133 ARIZONA'S ABORTION BAN WILL GO 151 00:04:09,133 --> 00:04:11,000 INTO EFFECT. 152 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,366 WHAT IS CLEAR IS THAT THIS IS 153 00:04:12,366 --> 00:04:14,200 NOT SOMETHING THE MAJORITY OF 154 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,733 ARIZONA CITIZENS WANTS, AS POLLS 155 00:04:15,733 --> 00:04:17,833 TWO YEARS AGO SHOWED 62% OF 156 00:04:17,833 --> 00:04:19,133 VOTERS THERE BACKED MAKING 157 00:04:19,133 --> 00:04:21,400 ABORTION LEGAL. 158 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,066 AND THE CURRENT RISING ANGER IS 159 00:04:23,066 --> 00:04:23,633 WHY MANY REPUBLICANS ARE NOW 160 00:04:23,633 --> 00:04:26,266 FRANTICALLY TRYING TO DISTANCE 161 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:27,933 THEMSELVES FROM THIS LAW, 162 00:04:27,933 --> 00:04:29,633 INCLUDING KARI LAKE-- CURRENT 163 00:04:29,633 --> 00:04:30,066 SENATE CANDIDATE AND 164 00:04:30,066 --> 00:04:30,633 POSSESSOR OF BIG "LOCAL REAL 165 00:04:30,633 --> 00:04:36,600 ESTATE AGENT" ENERGY. 166 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,000 SHE SAID THIS WEEK THAT SHE 167 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,433 OPPOSED THE RULING. 168 00:04:38,433 --> 00:04:39,000 AND I GUESS THAT WOULD CARRY 169 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,066 SOME WEIGHT, JUST AS LONG AS SHE 170 00:04:42,166 --> 00:04:42,666 HADN'T DONE AN INTERVIEW IN 171 00:04:42,666 --> 00:04:43,800 WHICH SHE SUPPORTED THAT LAW, 172 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:44,400 EVEN SPECIFICALLY CITING ITS 173 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,966 NUMBER. 174 00:04:45,966 --> 00:04:48,733 I'M INCREDIBLY THRILLED THAT 175 00:04:48,733 --> 00:04:50,133 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT LAW 176 00:04:50,133 --> 00:04:53,733 THAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS. 177 00:04:53,733 --> 00:04:55,233 I BELIEVE IT'S ARS 13-3603, SO 178 00:04:55,233 --> 00:04:57,766 IT WILL PROHIBIT ABORTION IN 179 00:04:57,766 --> 00:04:59,466 ARIZONA EXCEPT TO SAVE THE LIFE 180 00:04:59,466 --> 00:05:04,833 OF A MOTHER. 181 00:05:04,833 --> 00:05:05,900 John: LOOK, IF YOU'RE GONNA 182 00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:06,800 BACKTRACK ON SOMETHING, AT LEAST 183 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,233 DOUBLE CHECK YOU HAVEN'T SAID 184 00:05:08,233 --> 00:05:09,066 THE EXACT OPPOSITE INTO A 185 00:05:09,066 --> 00:05:09,833 MICROPHONE FOR SOMETHING CALLED 186 00:05:09,833 --> 00:05:11,366 "THE CONSERVATIVE CIRCUS." 187 00:05:11,366 --> 00:05:15,066 WHICH I KNOW SOUNDS LIKE 188 00:05:15,166 --> 00:05:16,333 SOMETHING MSNBC WOULD TRY TO 189 00:05:16,333 --> 00:05:16,933 USE AS A SICK BURN FOR TRUMP'S 190 00:05:16,933 --> 00:05:17,566 MOTORCADE OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S 191 00:05:17,566 --> 00:05:18,100 ACTUALLY JUST SOME GUY'S 192 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:18,333 PODCAST. 193 00:05:18,333 --> 00:05:19,566 BUT IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR 194 00:05:19,566 --> 00:05:20,400 STATE REPUBLICANS TO DISTANCE 195 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,133 THEMSELVES FROM ALL THIS. 196 00:05:24,133 --> 00:05:24,700 BECAUSE JUST BEFORE ROE WAS 197 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:25,366 STRUCK DOWN, THE STATE 198 00:05:25,366 --> 00:05:26,733 LEGISLATURE ACTUALLY PASSED A 199 00:05:26,733 --> 00:05:28,966 BILL WHICH EXPLICITLY AFFIRMED 200 00:05:28,966 --> 00:05:31,466 THE VALIDITY OF THE 1864 BAN. 201 00:05:31,466 --> 00:05:33,633 SO THEY KNEW THAT AS SOON AS ROE 202 00:05:33,633 --> 00:05:35,266 WAS OVERTURNED, THAT BAN WAS 203 00:05:35,266 --> 00:05:36,800 LIKELY TO BECOME LAW. 204 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,633 AND YET, A STATE SENATOR WHO 205 00:05:38,633 --> 00:05:39,833 VOTED FOR THAT BILL, SHAWNNA 206 00:05:39,833 --> 00:05:42,033 BOLICK, WAS QUICK TO CALL FOR A 207 00:05:42,033 --> 00:05:43,333 REPEAL OF THE ABORTION BAN. 208 00:05:43,333 --> 00:05:44,900 WHICH WOULD ALREADY BE HARD TO 209 00:05:44,900 --> 00:05:46,366 TAKE, BEFORE YOU LEARN THAT HER 210 00:05:46,366 --> 00:05:47,833 HUSBAND IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE 211 00:05:47,933 --> 00:05:49,133 STATE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES WHO 212 00:05:49,233 --> 00:05:50,366 VOTED TO REVIVE IT. 213 00:05:50,366 --> 00:05:51,666 AND WHILE IT'S NOT STRICTLY 214 00:05:51,666 --> 00:05:53,633 RELEVANT, YOU SHOULD KNOW HE 215 00:05:53,633 --> 00:05:55,200 ALSO ONCE DID THIS. 216 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,133 AN ARIZONA SUPREME COURT 217 00:05:57,133 --> 00:05:58,933 JUSTICE ACCUSED OF RACISM AFTER 218 00:05:58,933 --> 00:06:00,466 AN OLD VIDEO SURFACES ON SOCIAL 219 00:06:00,466 --> 00:06:01,266 MEDIA. 220 00:06:01,266 --> 00:06:02,433 IN THE CLIP, JUSTICE CLINT 221 00:06:02,433 --> 00:06:03,566 BOLICK IS SEEN SINGING TO A 222 00:06:03,566 --> 00:06:05,533 CROWD WEARING A WIG WITH 223 00:06:05,533 --> 00:06:07,033 DREADLOCKS AND CALLING HIMSELF 224 00:06:07,033 --> 00:06:09,566 "RASTA CLINT." 225 00:06:09,566 --> 00:06:12,666 AND I DON'T LIKE TYRANNY. 226 00:06:12,666 --> 00:06:14,933 SO I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, FREEDOM, 227 00:06:14,933 --> 00:06:21,833 FREEDOM, ALL THE LONG DAY. 228 00:06:21,933 --> 00:06:23,200 John: OKAY. 229 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,266 HARD TO HEAR "FREEDOM 230 00:06:24,266 --> 00:06:24,866 FREEDOM FREEDOM" FROM THAT MAN 231 00:06:24,866 --> 00:06:25,400 IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT 232 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,100 ESPECIALLY THIS ONE. 233 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:29,366 NOW, HE JUSTIFIED THAT BY SAYING 234 00:06:29,366 --> 00:06:33,533 "I AM A FAN OF REGGAE MUSIC." 235 00:06:33,533 --> 00:06:34,266 SOMETHING NOT ON DISPLAY THERE. 236 00:06:34,266 --> 00:06:35,700 WITH HIS INJURED ARM, HE LOOKS 237 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:36,333 LESS LIKE A REGGAE MUSICIAN AND 238 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:36,900 MORE LIKE HE'S STARRING IN A 239 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:37,766 RACIST COMMUNITY THEATER 240 00:06:37,766 --> 00:06:38,266 PRODUCTION OF "DEAR EVAN 241 00:06:38,266 --> 00:06:41,300 HANSEN." 242 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:42,700 BUT SHAWNNA BOLICK ISN'T THE 243 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:44,466 ONLY LAWMAKER BACKPEDALING, 244 00:06:44,466 --> 00:06:47,100 ANOTHER STATE SENATOR WHO VOTED 245 00:06:47,100 --> 00:06:48,366 FOR THAT BILL, T.J. SHOPE, 246 00:06:48,366 --> 00:06:48,866 JUSTIFIED HIS VOTE THIS 247 00:06:48,866 --> 00:06:49,466 WEEK LIKE THIS. 248 00:06:49,466 --> 00:06:50,733 I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF US 249 00:06:50,733 --> 00:06:52,400 REALLY ACTUALLY BELIEVED THAT 250 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:52,966 ROE V. WADE WAS GOING TO BE 251 00:06:52,966 --> 00:06:53,533 OVERTURNED. 252 00:06:53,633 --> 00:06:56,933 SO IT WAS DEFINITELY MORE OF A 253 00:06:56,933 --> 00:06:57,666 THEORETICAL, I GUESS, THAN AN 254 00:06:57,666 --> 00:06:59,700 ACTUAL. 255 00:06:59,700 --> 00:07:00,700 SO YOU VOTE, YOU VOTE A CERTAIN 256 00:07:00,700 --> 00:07:00,866 WAY. 257 00:07:00,866 --> 00:07:02,733 I HAVE NO REGRETS. 258 00:07:02,733 --> 00:07:04,200 YOU VOTE A CERTAIN WAY BASED ON 259 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:04,833 THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE AT 260 00:07:04,833 --> 00:07:07,566 THE TIME. 261 00:07:07,566 --> 00:07:09,500 John: YEAH, BUT YOU HAD ALL 262 00:07:09,500 --> 00:07:10,066 THE INFORMATION AT THE TIME. 263 00:07:10,066 --> 00:07:10,700 THE LAW WAS LITERALLY PASSED IN 264 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:11,633 ANTICIPATION OF THE OVERTURN OF 265 00:07:11,633 --> 00:07:13,833 ROE. 266 00:07:13,833 --> 00:07:15,166 SO THAT IS BULLSHIT. 267 00:07:15,166 --> 00:07:15,700 BUT I GET THAT HE'S IN A 268 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:16,066 QUANDARY, THERE. 269 00:07:16,066 --> 00:07:17,966 IMAGINE HAVING A PROBLEM THAT 270 00:07:17,966 --> 00:07:18,733 STARTED OUT AS THEORETICAL AND 271 00:07:18,733 --> 00:07:21,000 SUDDENLY BECAME ACTUAL, EVEN IF 272 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:27,066 YOU DIDN'T REALLY WANT IT TO. 273 00:07:27,066 --> 00:07:28,666 THAT COULD COMPLETELY FUCK UP 274 00:07:28,766 --> 00:07:29,266 YOUR WHOLE LIFE, COULDN'T IT? 275 00:07:29,366 --> 00:07:29,933 IF ONLY THERE WERE SOME OBVIOUS 276 00:07:29,933 --> 00:07:30,466 PARALLEL WE COULD USE TO 277 00:07:30,466 --> 00:07:31,100 ILLUSTRATE HOW FRUSTRATING THAT 278 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:31,366 WOULD BE! 279 00:07:31,366 --> 00:07:33,000 THIS ARIZONA DECISION IS SO 280 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,866 TOXIC, EVEN DONALD TRUMP THIS 281 00:07:33,866 --> 00:07:34,700 WEEK KNEW ENOUGH TO TRY AND 282 00:07:34,700 --> 00:07:36,700 CONDEMN IT. 283 00:07:36,700 --> 00:07:39,733 DID ARIZONA GO TOO FAR? 284 00:07:39,733 --> 00:07:40,333 YEAH, THEY DID. 285 00:07:40,333 --> 00:07:42,633 AND THAT'LL BE STRAIGHTENED OUT. 286 00:07:42,633 --> 00:07:43,533 AS YOU KNOW IT'S ALL ABOUT 287 00:07:43,533 --> 00:07:44,200 STATE'S RIGHTS. 288 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,700 IT'LL BE STRAIGHTENED OUT. 289 00:07:46,700 --> 00:07:48,200 I'M SURE THAT THE GOVERNOR AND 290 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:48,800 EVERYBODY ELSE ARE GOING BRING 291 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,666 IT BACK TO REASON AND THAT'LL BE 292 00:07:50,666 --> 00:07:52,300 TAKEN CARE OF VERY QUICKLY. 293 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:53,566 John: OKAY, THERE'S A LOT TO 294 00:07:53,566 --> 00:07:56,433 HATE THERE, FROM BLAMING ARIZONA 295 00:07:56,433 --> 00:07:58,033 FOR A MESS HE LARGELY CREATED TO 296 00:07:58,033 --> 00:08:00,533 INVOKING "STATE'S RIGHTS," A 297 00:08:00,633 --> 00:08:01,166 PHRASE FAMOUSLY ASSOCIATED WITH 298 00:08:01,266 --> 00:08:08,266 PEACEFUL COMPROMISE. 299 00:08:10,933 --> 00:08:11,633 BUT DESPITE TRUMP'S REASSURANCES 300 00:08:11,633 --> 00:08:12,233 THERE, THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE 301 00:08:12,233 --> 00:08:12,866 HAD THE CHANCE TO REPEAL THE BAN 302 00:08:12,866 --> 00:08:13,466 ON THURSDAY MORNING, AND THEY 303 00:08:13,466 --> 00:08:14,100 CHOSE TO ADJOURN WITHOUT TAKING 304 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:14,400 ANY ACTION. 305 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,000 AND THAT'S THE THING-- 306 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:15,466 REPUBLICANS OWN THIS. 307 00:08:15,466 --> 00:08:17,600 THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANTED, 308 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,766 OVERTURNED ROE V. WADE, AND NOW 309 00:08:19,766 --> 00:08:20,466 THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE 310 00:08:20,466 --> 00:08:20,933 CONSEQUENCES OF THAT. 311 00:08:20,933 --> 00:08:21,433 WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE 312 00:08:21,433 --> 00:08:22,166 RIGHTFULLY FURIOUS CONSTITUENTS 313 00:08:22,166 --> 00:08:23,900 TURNING THEM OUT OF OFFICE. 314 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:26,566 BECAUSE EVERYONE WE'VE MENTIONED 315 00:08:26,566 --> 00:08:28,900 TONIGHT IS ON THE BALLOT IN 316 00:08:28,900 --> 00:08:30,300 NOVEMBER-- EVEN "RASTA CLINT" 317 00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:31,166 AND ARIZONA IS LIKELY TO ALSO 318 00:08:31,166 --> 00:08:33,633 HAVE A REFERENDUM ON ABORTION 319 00:08:33,733 --> 00:08:34,033 RIGHTS THEN, TOO. 320 00:08:34,133 --> 00:08:36,466 SO ARIZONANS HAVE JUST SEVEN 321 00:08:36,466 --> 00:08:37,066 MONTHS TO ENSURE THEIR VOICES 322 00:08:37,066 --> 00:08:37,566 GET HEARD. 323 00:08:37,566 --> 00:08:39,233 AND BY THE WAY, CABLE NEWS? 324 00:08:39,233 --> 00:08:41,100 THAT MEANS YOU ALSO HAVE SEVEN 325 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:41,700 MONTHS TO MAKE SURE THAT, COME 326 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:42,833 ELECTION TIME, YOUR GRAPHICS ARE 327 00:08:42,833 --> 00:08:44,100 UP TO THE TASK. 328 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:44,733 BECAUSE THE BAR HAS BEEN RAISED. 329 00:08:44,733 --> 00:08:49,166 AND NOW, THIS. 330 00:08:49,166 --> 00:08:53,433 Announcer: AND NOW, 331 00:08:53,433 --> 00:08:59,233 PEOPLE ON TV ARE KIND OF BEING 332 00:08:59,233 --> 00:09:00,233 DICKS TO CICADAS. 333 00:09:00,233 --> 00:09:03,800 IT'S THE RETURN OF SOME VERY 334 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,133 OLD CREEPY-CRAWLY NOISY INSECTS. 335 00:09:06,133 --> 00:09:09,066 THE MASSIVE INVASION OF THESE 336 00:09:09,166 --> 00:09:09,900 GUYS. 337 00:09:09,900 --> 00:09:10,766 CICADAS. 338 00:09:10,766 --> 00:09:12,633 IT'S THAT TIME. 339 00:09:12,633 --> 00:09:14,966 NO! 340 00:09:14,966 --> 00:09:15,800 YOUR THOUGHTS? 341 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:16,733 THE CICADAS. 342 00:09:16,733 --> 00:09:17,933 THEY ARE ANNOYING. 343 00:09:17,933 --> 00:09:19,333 IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE ANNOYING, 344 00:09:19,333 --> 00:09:20,233 THEY ARE ALLOWED THE ARTIST 345 00:09:20,233 --> 00:09:22,400 BECAUSE THEY ARE DISGUSTING TO 346 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:22,633 LOOK AT. 347 00:09:22,633 --> 00:09:25,133 THOSE THINGS GROSSED ME OUT. 348 00:09:25,133 --> 00:09:26,600 I HATE THE NOISE THEY MAKE. 349 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,300 GET THAT OFF THE SCREEN. 350 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:31,800 THEY ARE REALLY UGLY LOOKING. 351 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,966 SIX LEGGETT WING TO HORRORS 352 00:09:33,966 --> 00:09:36,900 YEAH, THEY'RE KIND OF GROSS. 353 00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:38,766 THEY STINK TO HIGH HEAVEN. 354 00:09:38,766 --> 00:09:43,300 THEY'LL DIE AND DISAPPEAR 355 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:46,333 AGAIN FOR ANOTHER 13 YEARS. 356 00:09:46,333 --> 00:09:48,166 THEY'RE ANNOYING, DISGUSTING 357 00:09:48,166 --> 00:09:48,466 TO LOOK AT. 358 00:09:48,466 --> 00:09:49,166 BEADY-EYED. 359 00:09:49,166 --> 00:09:50,533 SPEAKER REALLY UGLY 360 00:09:52,233 --> 00:09:54,100 REALLY UGLY. 361 00:09:54,100 --> 00:09:58,700 ♪ ♪ 362 00:09:58,700 --> 00:09:59,733 [LAUGHTER] 363 00:09:59,733 --> 00:10:00,266 John: MOVING ON. 364 00:10:00,266 --> 00:10:00,900 OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS 365 00:10:00,900 --> 00:10:01,200 HEALTHCARE. 366 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:01,700 THE INDUSTRY THAT'S DONE 367 00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:02,333 BASICALLY NO INNOVATING IN THE 368 00:10:02,333 --> 00:10:04,733 PAST FIFTY YEARS WHEN IT COMES 369 00:10:04,733 --> 00:10:06,866 TO BIG ROLLS OF PAPER YOU PLOP 370 00:10:06,866 --> 00:10:08,533 YOUR BARE ASS ON. 371 00:10:08,533 --> 00:10:09,600 SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO 372 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,833 TALK ABOUT MEDICAID-- THE 373 00:10:10,833 --> 00:10:11,766 PUBLIC INSURANCE PROGRAM THAT 374 00:10:11,766 --> 00:10:13,233 PROVIDES HEALTH COVERAGE TO 375 00:10:13,233 --> 00:10:17,800 PEOPLE WITH LOW INCOMES. 376 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:18,733 IT IS MASSIVE, REPRESENTING $1 377 00:10:18,733 --> 00:10:19,366 OUT OF EVERY $6 SPENT ON HEALTH 378 00:10:19,366 --> 00:10:20,000 CARE IN THE U.S. AND AS OF LAST 379 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,633 YEAR, AT LEAST, IT COVERED MORE 380 00:10:21,633 --> 00:10:22,566 THAN 90 MILLION PEOPLE. 381 00:10:22,566 --> 00:10:23,866 AND THE REASON I PUT THAT IN THE 382 00:10:23,866 --> 00:10:24,966 PAST TENSE IS, THANKS TO 383 00:10:24,966 --> 00:10:26,800 SOMETHING CALLED "THE MEDICAID 384 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,666 UNWINDING," THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN 385 00:10:28,666 --> 00:10:30,866 PLUMMETING, AND FAST. 386 00:10:30,866 --> 00:10:31,433 HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF 387 00:10:31,433 --> 00:10:32,566 AMERICANS ARE FINDING OUT THEY 388 00:10:32,566 --> 00:10:33,133 MAY BE WITHOUT ALL IMPORTANT 389 00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:36,966 MEDICAID COVERAGE. 390 00:10:36,966 --> 00:10:37,500 IT'S A PROCESS THEY'RE 391 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:41,333 CALLING "MEDICAID UNWINDING." 392 00:10:41,333 --> 00:10:41,900 THEY BASICALLY SAID, HEY, 393 00:10:41,900 --> 00:10:42,533 SORRY, YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. 394 00:10:42,533 --> 00:10:43,100 WE TOOK YOU OFF THE BOOKS. 395 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:43,766 THEY DIDN'T EVEN TELL ME THAT 396 00:10:43,766 --> 00:10:45,300 I WAS DROPPED. 397 00:10:45,300 --> 00:10:45,900 WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE 398 00:10:45,900 --> 00:10:49,600 SERVED FOR 15 TO 20 YEARS, AND 399 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:50,700 SUDDENLY THEY'RE DROPPED OFF 400 00:10:50,700 --> 00:10:53,900 MEDICAID. 401 00:10:53,900 --> 00:10:54,500 John: IT'S TRUE! 402 00:10:54,500 --> 00:10:55,133 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN GETTING KICKED 403 00:10:55,133 --> 00:10:55,766 OFF MEDICAID, SOMETIMES WITH NO 404 00:10:55,766 --> 00:10:56,966 NOTICE. 405 00:10:56,966 --> 00:10:57,600 IN THE LAST YEAR, NET ENROLLMENT 406 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:58,733 HAS DROPPED BY OVER 11 MILLION 407 00:10:58,733 --> 00:11:00,333 INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING NEARLY 408 00:11:00,333 --> 00:11:01,866 FIVE MILLION CHILDREN. 409 00:11:01,866 --> 00:11:03,566 AND JUST FOR ONCE, COULD THE 410 00:11:03,566 --> 00:11:04,800 GOVERNMENT BLINDSIDE PEOPLE WITH 411 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:05,266 SOMETHING BENEFICIAL? 412 00:11:05,266 --> 00:11:07,100 OR EVEN JUST FUN? 413 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:08,966 LIKE IF ONE DAY CONGRESS 414 00:11:08,966 --> 00:11:09,600 ANNOUNCED THEY'D BE ADDING SHREK 415 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,800 TO MOUNT RUSHMORE? 416 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:11,700 THAT'D BE SOMETHING! 417 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:12,933 HE'D FIT IN SO NATURALLY, YOU 418 00:11:12,933 --> 00:11:16,333 MAY NOT EVEN HAVE NOTICED, HE'S 419 00:11:16,333 --> 00:11:16,866 IN THERE! 420 00:11:16,866 --> 00:11:17,300 THERE HE IS! 421 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:18,366 AND THAT'S BETTER! 422 00:11:18,366 --> 00:11:19,000 MT. RUSHMORE'S BETTER WITH SHREK 423 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,200 ON IT! 424 00:11:21,300 --> 00:11:26,800 AND THE THING IS, ALL THIS WAS, 425 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:27,600 TO SOME EXTENT, BY DESIGN. 426 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,200 THE UNWINDING HAS ITS ORIGINS 427 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:28,633 DURING THE PANDEMIC. 428 00:11:28,633 --> 00:11:29,266 BECAUSE WHEN COVID STARTED, ONE 429 00:11:29,266 --> 00:11:29,766 EARLY RELIEF BILL HAD A 430 00:11:29,766 --> 00:11:31,400 REQUIREMENT THAT STATES COULDN'T 431 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:32,900 KICK PEOPLE OFF MEDICAID. 432 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:33,633 WHICH WAS A GOOD IDEA, GIVEN 433 00:11:33,633 --> 00:11:35,300 THERE WAS A GIANT, GLOBAL PUBLIC 434 00:11:35,300 --> 00:11:36,566 HEALTH EMERGENCY AND MILLIONS OF 435 00:11:36,566 --> 00:11:37,233 PEOPLE WERE LOSING WORK AND 436 00:11:37,233 --> 00:11:40,166 GETTING SICK. 437 00:11:40,166 --> 00:11:42,266 BUT AT THE END OF LAST MARCH, 438 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:43,800 THAT POLICY EXPIRED, AND FOR THE 439 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,266 FIRST TIME IN THREE YEARS, 440 00:11:45,266 --> 00:11:45,900 STATES STARTED CHECKING PEOPLE'S 441 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:47,133 MEDICAID ELIGIBILITY AGAIN. 442 00:11:47,133 --> 00:11:49,733 SOME STATES, LIKE GEORGIA, EVEN 443 00:11:49,733 --> 00:11:53,166 TRIED PUT OUT PSA'S LIKE THIS 444 00:11:53,266 --> 00:11:53,733 ONE, TO ALERT PEOPLE TO THE 445 00:11:53,833 --> 00:11:55,466 CHANGES THAT WERE COMING. 446 00:11:55,466 --> 00:11:56,466 HEY! 447 00:11:56,466 --> 00:11:58,033 DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE 448 00:11:58,033 --> 00:11:58,833 SOME BIG CHANGES COMING TO YOUR 449 00:11:58,833 --> 00:12:00,933 MEDICAID COVERAGE? 450 00:12:00,933 --> 00:12:02,200 YOU'RE A TALKING PEACH. 451 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,166 SURE AM! 452 00:12:03,166 --> 00:12:04,300 BUT THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT RIGHT 453 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:04,833 NOW. 454 00:12:04,833 --> 00:12:06,066 WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT YOU 455 00:12:06,066 --> 00:12:07,600 - VISIT StayCovered. - GA.gov 456 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,766 AND UPDATE YOUR CONTACT 457 00:12:08,766 --> 00:12:09,266 INFORMATION. 458 00:12:09,266 --> 00:12:09,633 WHY? 459 00:12:09,633 --> 00:12:11,466 WELL, THE FEDERAL PUBLIC 460 00:12:11,466 --> 00:12:12,066 HEALTH EMERGENCY MAY BE ENDING 461 00:12:12,066 --> 00:12:12,733 SOON, SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU 462 00:12:12,733 --> 00:12:14,966 VERIFY AND UPDATE YOUR MEDICAID 463 00:12:14,966 --> 00:12:15,200 ACCOUNT. 464 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,566 THANK YOU, MR. PEACHY. 465 00:12:17,566 --> 00:12:18,433 OH, NO, THAT'S MY BROTHER. 466 00:12:18,433 --> 00:12:22,166 I'M GEORGE. 467 00:12:22,166 --> 00:12:23,800 John: IT'S EXCELLENT. 468 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:24,400 IT'S ALL GOOD, BUT MY FAVORITE 469 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:24,966 PART IS THE SHOPPER SAYING, 470 00:12:24,966 --> 00:12:25,900 "YOU'RE A TALKING PEACH" AND IT 471 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:27,500 RESPONDING, "SURE AM, BUT THAT'S 472 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,366 NOT IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW." 473 00:12:29,466 --> 00:12:31,533 UH, DISAGREE, TALKING PEACH! 474 00:12:31,533 --> 00:12:32,166 YOU'RE A PIECE OF FRUIT THAT CAN 475 00:12:32,166 --> 00:12:33,900 TALK. 476 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:34,600 THAT IS MAYBE THE MOST 477 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,133 SIGNIFICANT EVENT IN THE HISTORY 478 00:12:37,133 --> 00:12:37,866 OF HUMANITY OR FRUIT. 479 00:12:37,866 --> 00:12:38,466 IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, EVERY 480 00:12:38,466 --> 00:12:39,900 GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE TO RETHINK 481 00:12:39,900 --> 00:12:40,366 THEIR FARMING POLICIES 482 00:12:40,366 --> 00:12:41,366 IMMEDIATELY. 483 00:12:41,366 --> 00:12:43,500 THE U.N. WOULD HOLD AN EMERGENCY 484 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:45,100 ASSEMBLY REGARDING THE "TALKING 485 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:46,400 PEACH" ISSUE. 486 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,666 AND HOW COULD ANYONE EVER BE 487 00:12:47,666 --> 00:12:49,066 COMFORTABLE EATING FRUIT AGAIN, 488 00:12:49,066 --> 00:12:50,533 KNOWING THAT AT ANY MOMENT, IT 489 00:12:50,533 --> 00:12:52,533 COULD SUDDENLY GO, "OWWW! 490 00:12:52,533 --> 00:12:54,800 STOP IT, YOU'RE HURTING ME!" 491 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,366 UNFORTUNATELY, DESPITE 492 00:12:56,366 --> 00:12:58,833 MAGNIFICENT PSA'S LIKE THAT, NOT 493 00:12:58,833 --> 00:13:00,200 EVERYONE HEARD ABOUT THE 494 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:00,800 MEDICAID UNWINDING, OR KNEW 495 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,533 EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAD TO DO TO 496 00:13:02,533 --> 00:13:04,800 KEEP THEIR HEALTHCARE. 497 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,200 AND WHAT THAT'S MEANT IS THAT A 498 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:06,800 PROCESS THAT WAS THEORETICALLY 499 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,733 JUST ABOUT REMOVING PEOPLE WHO 500 00:13:07,733 --> 00:13:09,033 NO LONGER QUALIFIED, HAS IN MANY 501 00:13:09,033 --> 00:13:10,466 STATES TURNED INTO AN 502 00:13:10,466 --> 00:13:13,000 ADMINISTRATIVE CLUSTERFUCK. 503 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,300 BECAUSE 69% OF THOSE WHO LOST 504 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:14,933 COVERAGE HAD IT TERMINATED FOR 505 00:13:14,933 --> 00:13:18,666 PROCEDURAL REASONS, LIKE MISSING 506 00:13:18,666 --> 00:13:19,800 PAPERWORK-- WITH THAT NUMBER 507 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:20,733 CLIMBING AS HIGH AS 93% IN 508 00:13:20,733 --> 00:13:21,300 STATES LIKE NEVADA AND NEW 509 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:23,066 MEXICO. 510 00:13:23,066 --> 00:13:24,666 THAT MEANS THE OVERWHELMING 511 00:13:24,666 --> 00:13:25,466 MAJORITY WEREN'T NECESSARILY 512 00:13:25,466 --> 00:13:27,800 INELIGIBLE. 513 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,300 THEY MIGHT'VE BEEN-- THEIR 514 00:13:29,300 --> 00:13:30,766 CIRCUMSTANCES MIGHT'VE CHANGED. 515 00:13:30,766 --> 00:13:32,866 BUT MOST LOST COVERAGE BECAUSE, 516 00:13:32,866 --> 00:13:33,500 FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, THEY 517 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:34,200 OR THEIR PARENT OR GUARDIAN 518 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:36,066 NEVER COMPLETED THE RENEWAL 519 00:13:36,066 --> 00:13:37,100 PROCESS. 520 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:38,966 AND FOR MANY, THAT WASN'T THEIR 521 00:13:38,966 --> 00:13:40,866 FAULT, BUT THE STATE'S. 522 00:13:40,866 --> 00:13:42,300 TAKE THIS FLORIDA FAMILY, WHO 523 00:13:42,300 --> 00:13:44,466 RECEIVED ZERO NOTICE THEY HAD TO 524 00:13:44,466 --> 00:13:46,100 DO ANYTHING TO MAINTAIN THEIR 525 00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:48,233 MEDICAID COVERAGE-- THEN 526 00:13:48,233 --> 00:13:48,833 SUDDENLY FOUND THEY'D LOST IT, 527 00:13:48,833 --> 00:13:50,766 AT THE WORST POSSIBLE TIME. 528 00:13:50,766 --> 00:13:52,033 THE PAST 24 HOURS HAVE BEEN A 529 00:13:52,033 --> 00:13:54,133 NIGHTMARE FOR LIZ ADAMS. 530 00:13:54,133 --> 00:13:56,166 IN THAT TIME, SHE FOUND OUT HER 531 00:13:56,166 --> 00:13:57,166 TWO KIDS WERE DROPPED FROM 532 00:13:57,166 --> 00:13:59,466 MEDICAID. 533 00:13:59,466 --> 00:14:00,266 THE NEWS ALSO CAME A DAY BEFORE 534 00:14:00,266 --> 00:14:01,333 HER 7-YEAR-OLD SON, BRIAN, WAS 535 00:14:01,333 --> 00:14:03,266 SET TO HAVE A BIOPSY PROCEDURE. 536 00:14:03,266 --> 00:14:03,900 HE'S CURRENTLY IN REMISSION FOR 537 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:08,600 LEUKEMIA. 538 00:14:08,700 --> 00:14:09,133 I'M MAD. 539 00:14:09,133 --> 00:14:09,400 I AM MAD. 540 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,200 I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CAN 541 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:10,966 DO THIS TO A CHILD. 542 00:14:10,966 --> 00:14:12,900 ADAMS TELLS US SHE NEVER GOT 543 00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:13,533 A LETTER, A CALL, OR ANY OTHER 544 00:14:13,533 --> 00:14:17,500 FORM OF COMMUNICATION FROM DCF. 545 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:18,100 NO ONE ELSE I CAN TALK TO, 546 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:18,700 NOT EVEN THE DOCTOR'S OFFICES 547 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:19,100 CAN DO ANYTHING. 548 00:14:19,100 --> 00:14:19,700 THEY'RE LIKE WE CAN TELL THEM 549 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:20,666 THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY 550 00:14:20,666 --> 00:14:21,633 THAT HE NEEDS MEDICAL TREATMENT, 551 00:14:21,633 --> 00:14:24,433 BUT WE CAN'T MAKE THEM GIVE YOU 552 00:14:24,433 --> 00:14:26,800 YOUR INSURANCE BACK. 553 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,466 John: THAT IS TERRIBLE. 554 00:14:27,466 --> 00:14:29,300 BECAUSE ANYONE COULD TELL YOU 555 00:14:29,300 --> 00:14:30,033 THAT KID NEEDS MEDICAL 556 00:14:30,033 --> 00:14:30,600 TREATMENT. 557 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,766 I COULD TELL YOU. 558 00:14:33,766 --> 00:14:34,400 A MAGIC 8-BALL COULD TELL YOU. 559 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:34,933 THAT OCTOPUS THAT USED TO 560 00:14:34,933 --> 00:14:35,500 PREDICT SOCCER MATCHES COULD 561 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:37,400 TELL YOU. 562 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,900 IF YOU PUT OUT TWO PIECES OF 563 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:39,800 FOOD, EACH LABELED WITH AN 564 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,666 OPTION OF WHAT TO DO, IT'D 565 00:14:40,666 --> 00:14:41,666 IGNORE THEM BOTH AND WRITE IN 566 00:14:41,766 --> 00:14:42,666 THE SAND, "WHAT THE FUCK IS 567 00:14:42,766 --> 00:14:43,366 WRONG WITH YOU? 568 00:14:43,366 --> 00:14:45,266 GIVE THE KID MEDICAID, YOU 569 00:14:45,266 --> 00:14:46,400 MONSTERS." 570 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,233 BUT THE THING IS, EVERYTHING 571 00:14:48,233 --> 00:14:48,833 ABOUT THE CURRENT UNWINDING IS 572 00:14:48,833 --> 00:14:49,600 EMBLEMATIC OF MUCH LARGER ISSUES 573 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,900 WITH HOW WE'VE ALWAYS 574 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:53,833 ADMINISTERED MEDICAID. 575 00:14:53,833 --> 00:14:54,433 SO GIVEN THAT, TONIGHT, LET'S 576 00:14:54,433 --> 00:14:56,100 TALK ABOUT MEDICAID IN GENERAL. 577 00:14:56,100 --> 00:14:57,000 IT WAS FIRST ENACTED IN 1965 AS 578 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:57,533 PART OF THE SAME LAW THAT 579 00:14:57,533 --> 00:15:01,366 CREATED MEDICARE, THE PROGRAM 580 00:15:01,366 --> 00:15:02,300 PROVIDING HEALTHCARE TO THE 581 00:15:02,300 --> 00:15:02,666 ELDERLY. 582 00:15:02,666 --> 00:15:05,333 AND FROM THE START, IT WAS SET 583 00:15:05,333 --> 00:15:06,566 UP VERY DIFFERENTLY. 584 00:15:06,566 --> 00:15:07,300 BECAUSE WHILE MEDICARE'S A 585 00:15:07,300 --> 00:15:08,966 PURELY FEDERAL PROGRAM, OPEN 586 00:15:08,966 --> 00:15:09,566 PRIMARILY TO AMERICANS 65 AND 587 00:15:09,566 --> 00:15:11,300 OLDER, MEDICAID IS A PARTNERSHIP 588 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:11,900 BETWEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 589 00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:15,466 AND STATES, WHERE THE FEDERAL 590 00:15:15,566 --> 00:15:17,633 GOVERNMENT CONTRIBUTES AT LEAST 591 00:15:17,633 --> 00:15:18,533 $1 IN MATCHING FUNDS FOR EVERY 592 00:15:18,533 --> 00:15:20,600 $1 A STATE SPENDS. 593 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,900 AND WHILE THERE ARE SOME FEDERAL 594 00:15:21,900 --> 00:15:24,300 REQUIREMENTS STATES MUST MEET, 595 00:15:24,300 --> 00:15:24,866 THEY GET A LOT OF LEEWAY IN 596 00:15:24,866 --> 00:15:25,400 DECIDING HOW TO RUN THEIR 597 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,966 PROGRAMS. 598 00:15:26,966 --> 00:15:28,033 AND WHEN DONE WELL, THE SERVICES 599 00:15:28,033 --> 00:15:29,366 THEY PROVIDE CAN BE 600 00:15:29,366 --> 00:15:30,866 TRANSFORMATIVE-- FOR INSTANCE, 601 00:15:30,866 --> 00:15:31,800 MEDICAID CAN PAY FOR PEOPLE WITH 602 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,666 DISABILITIES TO HAVE HOME HEALTH 603 00:15:33,666 --> 00:15:35,766 WORKERS COME AND HELP WITH 604 00:15:35,766 --> 00:15:37,200 MOBILITY AND DAILY LIVING. 605 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,266 WHICH IS HUGE-- AS THIS 606 00:15:38,266 --> 00:15:40,300 ACTIVIST POINTED OUT A FEW YEARS 607 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:41,433 AGO, WHEN CUTS TO MEDICAID 608 00:15:41,433 --> 00:15:44,800 SPENDING WERE BEING FLOATED. 609 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,666 MEDICAID PAID FOR MY SHOWER 610 00:15:46,666 --> 00:15:47,300 TODAY, MADE IT SO I WAS ABLE TO 611 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,533 EAT BREAKFAST, HELPED ME PUT ON 612 00:15:48,633 --> 00:15:52,866 MY CLOTHES. 613 00:15:52,866 --> 00:15:53,666 I BREATHE BECAUSE OF MEDICAID, 614 00:15:53,666 --> 00:15:57,300 MY VENTILATOR. 615 00:15:57,300 --> 00:15:59,966 I MOVE THROUGH THE WORLD BECAUSE 616 00:15:59,966 --> 00:16:00,500 OF A WHEELCHAIR FUNDED BY 617 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:03,466 MEDICAID. 618 00:16:03,466 --> 00:16:05,866 MEDICAID TOUCHES EVERYTHING IN 619 00:16:05,866 --> 00:16:06,100 MY LIFE. 620 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:10,966 IT MAKES EVERYTHING POSSIBLE. 621 00:16:10,966 --> 00:16:11,600 John: EXACTLY, WHEN MEDICAID 622 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,600 WORKS, IT CAN BE AMAZING. 623 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,566 UNFORTUNATELY, IT OFTEN DOESN'T 624 00:16:13,566 --> 00:16:14,700 WORK THAT WAY, WHICH YOU CAN 625 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:16,366 PROBABLY GUESS BY THE FACT WE'RE 626 00:16:16,366 --> 00:16:17,066 TALKING ABOUT IT NOW. 627 00:16:17,066 --> 00:16:17,633 IF THIS SHOW WAS SUPPOSED TO 628 00:16:17,633 --> 00:16:19,133 MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD, IT WOULDN'T 629 00:16:19,133 --> 00:16:20,300 BE HOSTED BY ME, IT'D BE HOSTED 630 00:16:20,300 --> 00:16:21,400 BY STANLEY TUCCI. 631 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:22,400 CAN YOU IMAGINE? 632 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:26,233 YOU'D BE WATCHING AN IMPOSSIBLY 633 00:16:26,233 --> 00:16:27,866 HORNY 30 MINUTE DEEP DIVE ON 634 00:16:27,866 --> 00:16:29,100 NEGRONIS. 635 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:36,166 THAT'S A BETTER SHOW. 636 00:16:38,333 --> 00:16:39,300 I WISH THIS WERE THAT SHOW. 637 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:39,900 YOU WISH THIS WERE THAT SHOW. 638 00:16:39,900 --> 00:16:40,333 BUT IT JUST ISN'T. 639 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:40,933 THE THING IS, NOT ALL STATES 640 00:16:40,933 --> 00:16:41,600 OFFER CARE LIKE THAT, OR MAKE IT 641 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:41,900 EASY TO GET. 642 00:16:41,900 --> 00:16:42,500 BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY AN EVEN 643 00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:44,533 BIGGER PROBLEM HERE, WHICH THAT 644 00:16:44,533 --> 00:16:45,133 IN GENERAL, EVEN FOR THOSE WHO 645 00:16:45,133 --> 00:16:45,766 QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID, IT CAN BE 646 00:16:45,766 --> 00:16:48,300 INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO ACCESS. 647 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:49,066 AND THE PROBLEMS BEGIN WITH 648 00:16:49,066 --> 00:16:51,166 BASIC ADMINISTRATIVE FUCKUPS-- 649 00:16:51,166 --> 00:16:52,633 LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS 650 00:16:52,633 --> 00:16:53,900 1-YEAR-OLD IN FLORIDA. 651 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,466 RAVEN RECEIVED A MEDICAID 652 00:16:55,466 --> 00:16:57,366 HEALTH INSURANCE CARD, WHICH, BY 653 00:16:57,366 --> 00:16:58,000 THE WAY, HAS HER CORRECT DATE OF 654 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:58,766 BIRTH ON IT. 655 00:16:58,766 --> 00:17:00,566 BUT THE STATE KEPT REJECTING IT 656 00:17:00,566 --> 00:17:02,533 WHEN HER DOCTOR TRIED TO RUN IT 657 00:17:02,533 --> 00:17:03,233 ON GROUNDS SHE'S NOT YET BORN. 658 00:17:03,233 --> 00:17:06,100 SHE IS NOT BORN. 659 00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:08,400 SHE IS 13-MONTHS-OLD, ALIVE, BUT 660 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,300 SHE IS NOT BORN. 661 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:11,333 SHE IS STILL APPARENTLY A FETUS 662 00:17:11,333 --> 00:17:12,066 IN MY WOMB. 663 00:17:12,066 --> 00:17:15,000 SO, I JUST PRAY SHE DOESN'T GET 664 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,266 HURT OR DOESN'T GET SEVERELY 665 00:17:16,266 --> 00:17:17,000 SICK BECAUSE I'M-- I'M OUT OF 666 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,466 LUCK. 667 00:17:19,466 --> 00:17:20,500 THEY'VE GOT COPIES OF HER BIRTH 668 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:21,833 CERTIFICATE, HER SOCIAL SECURITY 669 00:17:21,833 --> 00:17:23,800 CARD, EVERYTHING TO PROVE SHE 670 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,766 WAS BORN, INCLUDING BEING 671 00:17:24,766 --> 00:17:26,366 PHYSICALLY THERE. 672 00:17:26,366 --> 00:17:28,933 John: WOW. 673 00:17:29,033 --> 00:17:29,700 THAT FAMILY ACTUALLY WENT $2,000 674 00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:32,100 INTO DEBT PAYING FOR ROUTINE 675 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:33,700 CARE FOR THEIR CHILD, WHILE THE 676 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:34,666 STATE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT IF SHE 677 00:17:34,666 --> 00:17:35,933 EXISTED OR NOT. 678 00:17:35,933 --> 00:17:37,233 WHICH IS RIDICULOUS. 679 00:17:37,233 --> 00:17:38,566 IF YOU WANT TO KNOW IF SOMEONE 680 00:17:38,566 --> 00:17:40,066 WAS BORN, HERE'S A QUICK TRICK: 681 00:17:40,066 --> 00:17:41,566 JUST ASK, "WERE YOU BORN?" 682 00:17:41,566 --> 00:17:42,400 IF THEY SAY "YES," THEY WERE 683 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,800 BORN. 684 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:45,366 IF THEY SAY "NO," THEY WERE 685 00:17:45,366 --> 00:17:46,366 BORN. 686 00:17:46,366 --> 00:17:50,800 AND IF THEY JUST STARE BLANKLY 687 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,933 AT YOU, THEY WERE BORN. 688 00:17:55,933 --> 00:17:57,733 I'VE MADE THIS INTO A DECISION 689 00:17:57,733 --> 00:17:59,200 TREE, BUT IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE 690 00:17:59,200 --> 00:17:59,800 IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN NECESSARY. 691 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:00,366 FOR YEARS, PEOPLE TRYING TO 692 00:18:00,466 --> 00:18:00,966 ACCESS MEDICAID IN THEIR STATE 693 00:18:01,066 --> 00:18:01,566 HAVE HAD TO NAVIGATE THROUGH 694 00:18:01,566 --> 00:18:02,166 POORLY DESIGNED WEBSITES, LONG 695 00:18:02,166 --> 00:18:03,266 WAIT TIMES, AND COMPLEX FORMS 696 00:18:03,266 --> 00:18:03,766 AND NOTICES. 697 00:18:03,766 --> 00:18:04,366 AND THOSE BURDENS HAVE A REAL 698 00:18:04,366 --> 00:18:06,300 EFFECT. 699 00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:08,233 EVEN BEFORE THE CHAOS OF THE 700 00:18:08,233 --> 00:18:15,300 UNWINDING, IN 2022, ABOUT A 701 00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:17,933 QUARTER-- A QUARTER-- OF 702 00:18:17,933 --> 00:18:18,766 UNINSURED PEOPLE ELIGIBLE FOR 703 00:18:18,766 --> 00:18:20,233 MEDICAID WERE NOT ENROLLED IN 704 00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:20,800 IT, OFTEN DUE TO ENROLLMENT 705 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:21,066 BARRIERS. 706 00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:21,733 AND THE THING ABOUT MEDICAID IS, 707 00:18:21,733 --> 00:18:22,266 YOU DON'T JUST HAVE TO GO 708 00:18:22,266 --> 00:18:22,800 THROUGH THAT CIRCUS ONCE. 709 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,566 YOU HAVE TO RENEW YOUR COVERAGE 710 00:18:24,566 --> 00:18:25,100 EVERY YEAR, WHICH CAN BE 711 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:28,333 INCREDIBLY ONEROUS. 712 00:18:28,333 --> 00:18:29,100 AT ONE POINT TENNESSEE WAS 713 00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:29,700 SENDING FAMILIES WHO WANTED TO 714 00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:30,200 RENEW THEIR MEDICAID A 715 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,966 QUESTIONNAIRE THAT COULD BE AS 716 00:18:31,966 --> 00:18:34,300 LONG AS 47 PAGES, AND THE STATE 717 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,033 COULD BE CARELESS ABOUT DOING 718 00:18:35,133 --> 00:18:36,066 THAT, AS ONE FAMILY LOST 719 00:18:36,066 --> 00:18:43,133 COVERAGE AFTER THEIR RENEWAL 720 00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:46,933 PACKET WAS MAILED TO A HORSE 721 00:18:46,933 --> 00:18:50,200 PASTURE. 722 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:50,833 BECAUSE HORSES AREN'T 723 00:18:50,833 --> 00:18:51,300 ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAID. 724 00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:52,233 THEY GET HEALTHCARE THROUGH A 725 00:18:52,233 --> 00:18:52,833 DIFFERENT PROGRAM, CALLED THE 726 00:18:52,833 --> 00:18:53,166 GLUE FACTORY. 727 00:18:53,166 --> 00:18:53,800 AND LOOK, GLITCHES CAN OCCUR IN 728 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,933 ANY SYSTEM. 729 00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:55,633 AND THEY CAN HAPPEN MORE OFTEN 730 00:18:55,633 --> 00:18:56,566 IN GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS, WHICH 731 00:18:56,566 --> 00:18:57,766 TEND TO BE UNDERFUNDED, 732 00:18:57,766 --> 00:18:58,633 UNDERSTAFFED, AND OPERATING ON 733 00:18:58,633 --> 00:18:59,833 ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY. 734 00:18:59,833 --> 00:19:01,966 AND I'M NOT TRYING TO RAIN SHIT 735 00:19:01,966 --> 00:19:04,666 DOWN ON HONEST GOVERNMENT 736 00:19:04,666 --> 00:19:05,666 EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE TO PROCESS AN 737 00:19:05,666 --> 00:19:06,733 ENDLESS BARRAGE OF PAPERWORK. 738 00:19:06,733 --> 00:19:08,633 I HAVE TOTAL SYMPATHY FOR HOW 739 00:19:08,733 --> 00:19:09,600 DEMANDING THOSE JOBS ARE. 740 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,266 IN FACT, THERE'S EXACTLY ONE 741 00:19:11,266 --> 00:19:12,866 GROUP OF GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES 742 00:19:12,866 --> 00:19:14,133 IT'S OKAY TO MAKE FUN OF FOR 743 00:19:14,133 --> 00:19:15,866 SOMETHING THAT'S NOT THEIR 744 00:19:15,866 --> 00:19:16,666 FAULT, AND THAT'S SECRET SERVICE 745 00:19:16,666 --> 00:19:17,800 AGENTS, FOR THE FACT THEY'RE 746 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:18,833 CONSTANTLY BEING BITTEN BY THE 747 00:19:18,833 --> 00:19:22,200 PRESIDENT'S DOG. 748 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,600 I'M SORRY, I HOPE THEY'RE ALL 749 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,233 FINE, BUT I'M STILL GONNA LAUGH 750 00:19:25,233 --> 00:19:25,966 EVERY TIME I THINK ABOUT IT. 751 00:19:25,966 --> 00:19:28,500 BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT 752 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:29,066 FEELS LIKE THE OBSTACLES TO 753 00:19:29,066 --> 00:19:30,266 GETTING MEDICAID HAVE BEEN PUT 754 00:19:30,266 --> 00:19:31,833 THERE DELIBERATELY, SO STATES 755 00:19:31,833 --> 00:19:33,466 CAN KEEP THOSE THEY SEE AS 756 00:19:33,466 --> 00:19:35,133 "UNDESERVING" OFF THE ROLLS. 757 00:19:35,133 --> 00:19:36,166 BECAUSE STATES GET A LOT OF 758 00:19:36,166 --> 00:19:38,466 DISCRETION IN DECIDING WHO IS, 759 00:19:38,466 --> 00:19:39,166 AND ISN'T, ELIGIBLE FOR 760 00:19:39,166 --> 00:19:39,766 BENEFITS. 761 00:19:39,866 --> 00:19:42,033 AND IN SOME, THEY KEEP THE BAR 762 00:19:42,133 --> 00:19:44,400 TO QUALIFY TROUBLINGLY HIGH, ALL 763 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,200 WHILE ADOPTING A DEEPLY 764 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:45,900 MORALIZING TONE. 765 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:47,233 TAKE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE 766 00:19:47,233 --> 00:19:48,566 TRUMP ADMINISTRATION GAVE SOME 767 00:19:48,566 --> 00:19:49,300 STATES PERMISSION TO IMPLEMENT 768 00:19:49,300 --> 00:19:50,900 WORK REQUIREMENTS AS A CONDITION 769 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:53,500 OF MEDICAID ELIGIBILITY. 770 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:55,100 SOME WERE EAGER TO PUT THOSE 771 00:19:55,100 --> 00:19:56,433 INTO PLACE, LIKE THIS STATE REP 772 00:19:56,433 --> 00:19:57,333 IN KENTUCKY. 773 00:19:57,333 --> 00:19:58,700 WHY DO YOU THINK THE WORK 774 00:19:58,700 --> 00:20:01,766 REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING TO WORK? 775 00:20:01,766 --> 00:20:03,766 IT'S AN INCENTIVE. 776 00:20:03,766 --> 00:20:04,533 I THINK THAT THERE IS DIGNITY IN 777 00:20:04,533 --> 00:20:05,266 WORK. 778 00:20:05,266 --> 00:20:08,833 IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ABOUT 779 00:20:08,833 --> 00:20:09,766 THE-- THE HUMAN PERSON. 780 00:20:09,766 --> 00:20:11,666 SO OFTEN I SAY THAT OUR-- 781 00:20:11,666 --> 00:20:12,800 OUR-- SOMETIMES OUR CHARITY 782 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,133 BECOMES TOXIC TO PEOPLE. 783 00:20:14,233 --> 00:20:17,333 IN OUR WANTING TO HELP THEM, 784 00:20:17,333 --> 00:20:17,933 SOMETIMES WE'VE-- WE'VE HURT 785 00:20:17,933 --> 00:20:18,800 THEM. 786 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,333 John: OKAY, PUTTING ASIDE 787 00:20:20,333 --> 00:20:21,966 THAT CALLING ACCESS TO BASIC 788 00:20:21,966 --> 00:20:23,300 HEALTHCARE "CHARITY" IS 789 00:20:23,300 --> 00:20:25,166 IMMEDIATELY INFURIATING. 790 00:20:25,166 --> 00:20:25,800 "IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ABOUT THE 791 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,666 HUMAN PERSON?" 792 00:20:27,666 --> 00:20:30,266 ARE YOU SURE THAT'S A SENTENCE? 793 00:20:30,266 --> 00:20:31,400 IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE SOMETHING A 794 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,100 DRUNK ALIEN WOULD SAY WHILE 795 00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:33,633 TRYING TO DESCRIBE A DAVID 796 00:20:33,633 --> 00:20:35,166 FOSTER WALLACE BOOK. 797 00:20:35,166 --> 00:20:36,533 "IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ABOUT 798 00:20:36,533 --> 00:20:37,533 THE HUMAN PERSON. 799 00:20:37,533 --> 00:20:40,300 YOU KNOW, THE HUMANOIDS, AND 800 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:42,033 THEIR PERSON FEELINGS." 801 00:20:42,033 --> 00:20:42,933 BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE 802 00:20:42,933 --> 00:20:44,700 MAJORITY OF ADULTS ON 803 00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:46,566 MEDICAID-- ABOUT 63%-- ARE 804 00:20:46,666 --> 00:20:47,400 ALREADY WORKING FULL OR 805 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:49,666 PART-TIME. 806 00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:50,800 THOSE WHO AREN'T, ARE GENERALLY 807 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,633 IN SCHOOL OR MIGHT HAVE A 808 00:20:51,633 --> 00:20:52,700 DISABILITY PREVENTING THEM FROM 809 00:20:52,700 --> 00:20:53,600 WORKING, ONLY LEAVING A SMALL 810 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,500 PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION TO 811 00:20:55,500 --> 00:20:56,533 WHOM THE POLICIES COULD EVEN 812 00:20:56,533 --> 00:20:58,000 APPLY. 813 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,900 NOW, FORTUNATELY, KENTUCKY 814 00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:01,100 DIDN'T END UP IMPLEMENTING A 815 00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:06,266 WORK REQUIREMENT. 816 00:21:06,266 --> 00:21:07,166 BUT UNFORTUNATELY, ARKANSAS 817 00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:07,500 DID. 818 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:08,000 AND IT DIDN'T GO GREAT. 819 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:08,600 FOR A START, SIMPLY COMPLYING 820 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,066 WITH IT WAS A HASSLE. 821 00:21:09,066 --> 00:21:09,633 BENEFICIARIES HAD TO REPORT 822 00:21:09,633 --> 00:21:11,300 THEIR WORK ACTIVITIES ON A 823 00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:15,966 GLITCH-PLAGUED WEB PORTAL, AND 824 00:21:15,966 --> 00:21:16,866 SIX MONTHS IN, 18,000 ARKANSANS 825 00:21:16,866 --> 00:21:17,833 HAD BEEN STRIPPED OF MEDICAID 826 00:21:17,833 --> 00:21:18,466 AND LOCKED OUT OF REAPPLICATION 827 00:21:18,466 --> 00:21:24,033 UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR. 828 00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:24,966 AND FOR SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE-- 829 00:21:24,966 --> 00:21:25,700 WHO, AGAIN, WERE ALREADY WORKING 830 00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:26,433 LOSING ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE 831 00:21:26,433 --> 00:21:28,533 COMPLETELY UPENDED THEIR LIVES. 832 00:21:28,533 --> 00:21:29,666 LIKE THIS MAN, WHO HAD A JOB AT 833 00:21:29,666 --> 00:21:30,700 A CHICKEN PLANT. 834 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:32,566 ADRIAN MCGONIGAL'S LIFE IS 835 00:21:32,566 --> 00:21:33,400 COMING UNDONE. 836 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,100 HE BECAME ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT 837 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:36,633 THE STATE HAS BOOTED FROM THE 838 00:21:36,633 --> 00:21:37,266 MEDICAID ROLLS IN THE LAST THREE 839 00:21:37,266 --> 00:21:38,166 MONTHS. 840 00:21:38,166 --> 00:21:39,700 HE DISCOVERED THIS ONLY WHEN HE 841 00:21:39,700 --> 00:21:41,633 WENT TO FILL PRESCRIPTIONS AT 842 00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:42,133 THIS DRUG STORE, AND THE 843 00:21:42,133 --> 00:21:42,700 PHARMACIST TOLD HIM, "SORRY, 844 00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:43,366 YOUR COVERAGE HAS BEEN 845 00:21:43,366 --> 00:21:45,233 CANCELED." 846 00:21:45,233 --> 00:21:47,400 AND THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE 847 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,933 LIKE $340 FOR ONE OF THE 848 00:21:48,933 --> 00:21:49,633 MEDICATIONS, AND LIKE $80 FOR 849 00:21:49,633 --> 00:21:52,333 THE OTHER ONE. 850 00:21:52,333 --> 00:21:53,566 SO, HE LEFT EMPTY-HANDED. 851 00:21:53,666 --> 00:21:55,533 THIS WAS A BIG DEAL, BECAUSE 852 00:21:55,633 --> 00:21:58,366 McGONIGAL HAS SEVERE COPD, A 853 00:21:58,366 --> 00:21:59,733 CHRONIC LUNG DISEASE THAT MAKES 854 00:21:59,733 --> 00:22:00,800 IT DIFFICULT TO BREATHE. 855 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,666 WITHOUT HIS MEDS, HE LANDED IN 856 00:22:02,666 --> 00:22:04,200 THE HOSPITAL MULTIPLE TIMES AND 857 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,500 MISSED A LOT OF WORK. 858 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:07,466 HIS SUPERVISOR TRIED TO 859 00:22:07,466 --> 00:22:08,066 ACCOMMODATE HIM, BUT HE WASN'T 860 00:22:08,066 --> 00:22:09,366 HEALTHY ENOUGH TO PERFORM HIS 861 00:22:09,366 --> 00:22:10,066 JOB. 862 00:22:10,066 --> 00:22:11,900 SO HE LOST IT. 863 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:12,800 John: YEAH, THE WORK 864 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,500 REQUIREMENT FOR MEDICAID CAUSED 865 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:17,200 SOMEONE WHO WAS ALREADY ON 866 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:17,800 MEDICAID AND WORKING, TO LOSE 867 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,300 BOTH MEDICAID AND THEIR WORK. 868 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:21,000 WHICH HAS TO BE THE MOST 869 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,700 UPSETTING THING THAT'S EVER 870 00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:23,066 HAPPENED IN A CHICKEN PROCESSING 871 00:22:23,066 --> 00:22:26,400 PLANT, APART FROM ALL THE OTHER 872 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,433 THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THERE ON 873 00:22:27,533 --> 00:22:28,466 PURPOSE. 874 00:22:28,566 --> 00:22:29,133 AND WHILE ARKANSAS DITCHED THAT 875 00:22:29,133 --> 00:22:30,066 WORK REQUIREMENT AFTER LESS THAN 876 00:22:30,066 --> 00:22:37,133 A YEAR, GEORGIA HAS ONE RIGHT 877 00:22:39,533 --> 00:22:43,033 AND IT'S PROVING JUST AS STUPID 878 00:22:43,033 --> 00:22:44,100 AND JUST AS UPSETTING. 879 00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:44,966 AND THAT'S THE THING, SO MUCH OF 880 00:22:44,966 --> 00:22:45,566 THE TALK AROUND MEDICAID SEEMS 881 00:22:45,566 --> 00:22:46,100 TO CENTER ON THE FEAR THAT 882 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:46,666 SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE, MIGHT BE 883 00:22:46,666 --> 00:22:47,100 "GAMING THE SYSTEM." 884 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:48,833 YOU HEAR IT ALL THE TIME. 885 00:22:48,833 --> 00:22:49,400 THE PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT 886 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,200 THAT WORK HARD, THAT STRUGGLE TO 887 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,666 PAY THEIR HEALTH CARE, THEY'RE 888 00:22:51,666 --> 00:22:53,533 VERY FRUSTRATED WHEN THEY SEE 889 00:22:53,533 --> 00:22:54,333 SOMEONE THEY KNOW IN THEIR SMALL 890 00:22:54,333 --> 00:22:55,333 TOWN, WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS 891 00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:56,400 EVERYBODY, THEY SEE SOMEONE 892 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,566 THAT'S NOT WORKING. 893 00:22:59,566 --> 00:23:03,233 WHY SHOULD SOMEBODY HAVE TO 894 00:23:03,233 --> 00:23:04,166 GO TO WORK EVERY DAY AND PAY 895 00:23:04,166 --> 00:23:05,666 TAXES TO PROVIDE SOMETHING TO 896 00:23:05,666 --> 00:23:06,533 SOMEONE WHO COULD DO THE SAME 897 00:23:06,533 --> 00:23:09,233 THING BUT CHOOSES NOT TO? 898 00:23:09,233 --> 00:23:11,866 I DON'T THINK IT'S 899 00:23:11,866 --> 00:23:12,366 UNREASONABLE TO SAY THAT 900 00:23:12,366 --> 00:23:13,566 ABLE-BODIED PEOPLE WHO ARE 901 00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:16,100 WORKING AGE, WHO ARE NOT 902 00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:16,700 DISABLED, WHO ARE NOT SENIORS 903 00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:18,133 SHOULD HAVE TO GO TO WORK IF 904 00:23:18,133 --> 00:23:18,933 THEY WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO PAY 905 00:23:18,933 --> 00:23:19,533 FOR THEIR HEALTHCARE. 906 00:23:19,533 --> 00:23:20,633 John: LOOK, IT GOES WITHOUT 907 00:23:20,633 --> 00:23:21,266 SAYING THAT I DISAGREE WITH MATT 908 00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:22,766 GAETZ ON A LOT OF ISSUES: HIS 909 00:23:22,766 --> 00:23:24,300 STANCE ON IMMIGRATION, HIS 910 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:24,833 STANCE ON GUN CONTROL, HIS 911 00:23:24,833 --> 00:23:26,266 STANCE ON HANGING AROUND WITH 912 00:23:26,266 --> 00:23:27,566 TEENAGE GIRLS-- WE DON'T SEE 913 00:23:27,566 --> 00:23:29,366 EYE TO EYE ON MOST THINGS. 914 00:23:29,366 --> 00:23:29,933 BUT ON THIS, I PARTICULARLY 915 00:23:29,933 --> 00:23:31,000 DISAGREE. 916 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,333 BECAUSE STATES ALREADY 917 00:23:33,333 --> 00:23:34,400 AGGRESSIVELY MONITOR MEDICAID 918 00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:37,100 ELIGIBILITY-- AND SOME OF THEIR 919 00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:37,600 EFFORTS CAN BE DERANGED. 920 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,800 TAKE TENNESSEE. 921 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,733 THEIR STATE INSPECTOR GENERAL 922 00:23:40,733 --> 00:23:41,833 HAS A "MEDICAID FRAUD UNIT" THAT 923 00:23:41,833 --> 00:23:42,833 POSTS THE NAMES AND PHOTOS OF 924 00:23:42,833 --> 00:23:44,500 PEOPLE IT ARRESTS ON A 925 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:45,800 GOVERNMENT WEBSITE AND SOCIAL 926 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,500 MEDIA, WITH SOME ENDING UP ON A 927 00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:48,933 "MOST-WANTED" LIST. 928 00:23:48,933 --> 00:23:50,766 THIS WOMAN WAS CHARGED WITH A 929 00:23:50,766 --> 00:23:52,100 FELONY FOR SUPPOSEDLY RECEIVING 930 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:53,666 TENNESSEE BENEFITS WHILE LIVING 931 00:23:53,666 --> 00:23:54,433 IN MISSISSIPPI. 932 00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:56,566 AND WOUND UP HAVING TO PAY 933 00:23:56,566 --> 00:23:57,466 $2,000 TO BOND OUT OF JAIL AND 934 00:23:57,466 --> 00:23:58,900 EVEN MORE TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY, 935 00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:00,700 ALL JUST TO SHOW THAT SHE'D NOT 936 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:01,900 IN FACT COMMITTED "MEDICAID 937 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:03,033 FRAUD"-- HER DRIVER'S LICENSE 938 00:24:03,033 --> 00:24:04,166 JUST HAD AN OUTDATED MISSISSIPPI 939 00:24:04,166 --> 00:24:05,233 ADDRESS. 940 00:24:05,233 --> 00:24:07,000 SO HER ONLY REAL "CRIME" WAS NOT 941 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,733 WANTING TO STAND IN LINE AT THE 942 00:24:07,833 --> 00:24:12,100 DMV FOR EIGHT HOURS. 943 00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:13,500 THE HEAD OF THAT TENNESSEE UNIT 944 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,066 EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED IT COSTS FAR 945 00:24:15,066 --> 00:24:16,800 MORE TO RUN THE FRAUD UNIT THAN 946 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,466 THE OFFICE WILL EVER RECOUP FROM 947 00:24:18,466 --> 00:24:25,533 PEOPLE ON MEDICAID, WHO ARE 948 00:24:25,533 --> 00:24:26,233 USUALLY LOW INCOME. 949 00:24:26,233 --> 00:24:26,833 BECAUSE THE TOTAL WOULD AMOUNT 950 00:24:26,833 --> 00:24:30,133 TO LESS THAN $900,000" COMPARED 951 00:24:30,133 --> 00:24:32,733 TO THE OFFICE'S BUDGET OF $6.4 952 00:24:32,733 --> 00:24:33,100 MILLION A YEAR. 953 00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:36,633 AND LOOK, I'M NOT AN ACCOUNTANT 954 00:24:36,633 --> 00:24:38,266 DESPITE HAVING RESTING "BUDGET 955 00:24:38,266 --> 00:24:41,366 ANALYST" FACE. 956 00:24:41,466 --> 00:24:41,966 BUT EVEN I KNOW THAT MAKES NO 957 00:24:42,066 --> 00:24:42,366 FINANCIAL SENSE. 958 00:24:42,366 --> 00:24:42,900 AND LOOK, I'M NOT SAYING 959 00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:43,533 MEDICAID FRAUD DOESN'T EXIST-- 960 00:24:43,533 --> 00:24:45,233 IT DOES. 961 00:24:45,233 --> 00:24:46,266 BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THE 962 00:24:46,266 --> 00:24:48,633 COSTLIEST FRAUD ISN'T BEING 963 00:24:48,633 --> 00:24:49,233 COMMITTED BY PATIENTS GETTING 964 00:24:49,233 --> 00:24:49,900 CARE THEY MAY NOT TECHNICALLY BE 965 00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:51,200 ELIGIBLE FOR. 966 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,300 IT'S PROVIDERS DOING SHIT LIKE 967 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:54,333 THIS. 968 00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:56,700 A HUSBAND AND WIFE LIVING A 969 00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:58,333 FAIRY TALE LIFESTYLE PAID FOR BY 970 00:24:58,333 --> 00:25:00,600 ALL OF US. 971 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,233 OVER A 3 TO 4 YEAR, THEY WERE 972 00:25:03,233 --> 00:25:05,566 TRUE JET SETTERS IN THEIR 973 00:25:05,566 --> 00:25:06,866 PRIVATE $900,000 PLANE. 974 00:25:06,866 --> 00:25:08,200 THE HARRON'S RAN TWO HEALTH 975 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,233 SERVICES IN NORTH CAROLINA. 976 00:25:09,233 --> 00:25:12,666 THEY BILLED THE STATE'S MEDICAID 977 00:25:12,666 --> 00:25:13,266 SYSTEM AT LEAST $17 MILLION. 978 00:25:13,266 --> 00:25:15,333 MOST, IF NOT ALL, OF THE 979 00:25:15,433 --> 00:25:17,533 PATIENTS THEY CLAIMED TO HELP 980 00:25:17,533 --> 00:25:18,666 WERE ALREADY DEAD, THEIR NAMES 981 00:25:18,666 --> 00:25:20,033 GLEANED FROM OBITUARIES AND 982 00:25:20,033 --> 00:25:21,700 CROSS-CHECKED WITH THE MEDICAID 983 00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:23,333 DATABASE. 984 00:25:23,333 --> 00:25:24,800 John: THAT'S OBVIOUSLY 985 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,400 REPREHENSIBLE, BUT IF I COULD 986 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,200 JUST GIVE ONE QUICK NOTE TO THAT 987 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,366 NEWS STATION: EVERYONE KNOWS 988 00:25:29,366 --> 00:25:30,633 WHAT DEAD PEOPLE ARE. 989 00:25:30,633 --> 00:25:32,733 YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOW B-ROLL OF 990 00:25:32,733 --> 00:25:34,333 A CEMETERY FOR US TO UNDERSTAND 991 00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:34,800 THE CONCEPT OF DEATH. 992 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,266 JUST LIKE WHEN YOU SAID THE 993 00:25:36,266 --> 00:25:37,100 HARRONS RAN TWO HEALTH SERVICES, 994 00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:38,300 YOU DIDN'T NEED TO SHOW STOCK 995 00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:40,033 FOOTAGE OF A DOCTOR WRITING 996 00:25:40,033 --> 00:25:41,600 SOMETHING DOWN ON A NOTEPAD. 997 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,966 BUT INTERESTINGLY, YOU DIDN'T DO 998 00:25:42,966 --> 00:25:44,033 IT ALL THE TIME. 999 00:25:44,033 --> 00:25:45,633 LIKE, WHEN YOU SAID THE PHRASE 1000 00:25:45,633 --> 00:25:47,633 "$17 MILLION DOLLARS," YOU 1001 00:25:47,733 --> 00:25:48,233 DIDN'T FEEL THE NEED TO SHOW 1002 00:25:48,233 --> 00:25:49,133 THIS STOCK FOOTAGE OF CASH 1003 00:25:49,233 --> 00:25:50,366 SLOWLY FALLING OUT OF THE AIR. 1004 00:25:50,366 --> 00:25:52,033 WHY NOT? 1005 00:25:52,033 --> 00:25:53,866 HOW ELSE WILL YOUR VIEWERS 1006 00:25:53,866 --> 00:25:55,566 UNDERSTAND WHAT MONEY IS? 1007 00:25:55,566 --> 00:25:57,400 AS IF ALL THAT WEREN'T BAD 1008 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,300 ENOUGH, THAT GUY LIKED TO POST 1009 00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:00,500 HIS BUSINESS AFFIRMATIONS 1010 00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:02,233 ONLINE, INCLUDING "NEVER OUTLIVE 1011 00:26:02,233 --> 00:26:03,900 YOUR USEFULNESS", "DOING BIG 1012 00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:05,300 THINGS REQUIRES ONE NOT TO BE 1013 00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:06,500 STUCK ON THE LITTLE THINGS", AND 1014 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:08,600 "I'M NOT DOING A BUSINESS THAT'S 1015 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,666 NEW, I'M DOING A NEW WAY OF 1016 00:26:10,666 --> 00:26:11,600 DOING BUSINESS"-- A QUOTE HE 1017 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,166 LOVED SO MUCH, HE POSTED IT A 1018 00:26:13,166 --> 00:26:18,833 SECOND TIME A MONTH LATER, BUT 1019 00:26:18,833 --> 00:26:20,500 IN RED TEXT INSTEAD OF YELLOW. 1020 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,100 AND I'LL ADMIT-- IT DIDN'T 1021 00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,200 REALLY RESONATE WHEN I READ THE 1022 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:23,833 YELLOW-TEXT-OVER-DARK-GREEN-BACK 1023 00:26:23,833 --> 00:26:24,466 GROUND VERSION, BUT ONCE I SAW 1024 00:26:24,466 --> 00:26:26,800 THE "RED"-TEXT-OVER-"NEON"-GREEN 1025 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,466 ONE, I WAS LIKE...WOW, THAT'S SO 1026 00:26:28,466 --> 00:26:28,666 TRUE. 1027 00:26:28,666 --> 00:26:35,733 THAT'S TOTALLY WHAT HE'S DOING. 1028 00:26:38,366 --> 00:26:39,166 BUT THAT'S BY NO MEANS THE ONLY 1029 00:26:39,166 --> 00:26:39,733 CASE OF MEDICAID PROVIDERS 1030 00:26:39,733 --> 00:26:40,800 DEFRAUDING THE GOVERNMENT. 1031 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,433 IN ARIZONA THERE WAS A GROUP OF 1032 00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:42,133 FAKE REHAB CENTERS THAT, FOR 1033 00:26:42,133 --> 00:26:42,866 YEARS, CLAIMED FRAUDULENT 1034 00:26:42,866 --> 00:26:44,233 REIMBURSEMENTS FOR PATIENTS WHO 1035 00:26:44,233 --> 00:26:45,300 WERE EITHER GETTING SERVICES 1036 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:45,933 THEY DIDN'T NEED, OR NOT GETTING 1037 00:26:45,933 --> 00:26:46,966 THEM AT ALL-- REPORTEDLY TAKING 1038 00:26:46,966 --> 00:26:47,600 IN MORE THAN $2 BILLION FROM THE 1039 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:47,800 STATE. 1040 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,133 AND SOME OF THEIR SUBMISSIONS 1041 00:26:49,133 --> 00:26:50,833 REALLY SHOULD'VE RAISED RED 1042 00:26:50,833 --> 00:26:52,933 FLAGS, LIKE A BILL FOR ALCOHOL 1043 00:26:52,933 --> 00:27:00,000 REHABILITATION FOR A 4-YEAR-OLD. 1044 00:27:00,566 --> 00:27:01,666 WHICH IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO 1045 00:27:01,666 --> 00:27:01,900 BELIEVE. 1046 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:02,500 IF TODDLER ALCOHOLISM WERE AN 1047 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:04,466 ACTUAL PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY, 1048 00:27:04,466 --> 00:27:05,100 YOU'D HAVE DEFINITELY SEEN A TLC 1049 00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:05,466 SERIES ABOUT IT. 1050 00:27:05,466 --> 00:27:09,233 AND WHILE, IN BOTH OF THOSE 1051 00:27:09,233 --> 00:27:10,633 CASES, THE PROVIDERS WERE 1052 00:27:10,633 --> 00:27:11,466 EVENTUALLY CAUGHT, IT TOOK YEARS 1053 00:27:11,466 --> 00:27:14,200 FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. 1054 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,833 AGAIN AND AGAIN, THE PRIORITY 1055 00:27:16,833 --> 00:27:17,700 SEEMS TO BE MAKING SURE NO 1056 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:21,600 INDIVIDUAL GETS A PENNY MORE 1057 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,000 HEALTH CARE THAN THEY "DESERVE," 1058 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,633 EVEN AS STATES ARE WEIRDLY 1059 00:27:24,633 --> 00:27:25,266 BLITHE ABOUT MUCH BIGGER AMOUNTS 1060 00:27:25,266 --> 00:27:27,400 OF MONEY FLOWING OUT THE DOOR TO 1061 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:28,666 LARGE ORGANIZATIONS. 1062 00:27:28,766 --> 00:27:29,366 AND SPEAKING OF LARGE 1063 00:27:29,466 --> 00:27:31,000 ORGANIZATIONS THERE'S ONE LAST, 1064 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,600 MASSIVE FLAW WITH OUR MEDICAID 1065 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,433 SYSTEM. 1066 00:27:32,433 --> 00:27:33,633 AND IT HAS TO DO WITH MANAGED 1067 00:27:33,633 --> 00:27:35,533 CARE ORGANIZATIONS, OR MCO'S. 1068 00:27:35,533 --> 00:27:37,033 THESE ARE PRIVATE COMPANIES 1069 00:27:37,033 --> 00:27:38,233 STATES CONTRACT TO DELIVER AND 1070 00:27:38,233 --> 00:27:39,766 PAY FOR HEALTHCARE. 1071 00:27:39,766 --> 00:27:42,833 CURRENTLY, 72% OF MEDICAID 1072 00:27:42,833 --> 00:27:45,666 BENEFICIARIES ARE ENROLLED IN A 1073 00:27:45,666 --> 00:27:46,433 PLAN CARE OVERSEEN BY AN MCO. 1074 00:27:46,433 --> 00:27:48,800 AND IT'S BIG BUSINESS. 1075 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,566 THE FIVE BIGGEST MCO'S ARE ON 1076 00:27:50,566 --> 00:27:52,433 THE FORTUNE 500, INCLUDING 1077 00:27:52,433 --> 00:27:55,166 CENTENE, WHICH HAS LONG BEEN A 1078 00:27:55,166 --> 00:27:56,900 FAVORITE OF THIS GUY. 1079 00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:59,433 CENTENE, YEAH, A HEALTHCARE 1080 00:27:59,433 --> 00:28:00,200 PLAN PROVIDER FOR GOVERNMENT 1081 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,833 SPONSORED PROGRAMS LIKE 1082 00:28:01,933 --> 00:28:03,566 MEDICARE, MEDICAID. 1083 00:28:03,566 --> 00:28:04,266 THIS ONE'S A LONGTIME CRAMER 1084 00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:07,233 FAVORITE, IT'S BEEN OUT OF 1085 00:28:07,233 --> 00:28:08,233 FAVOR, BUT MICHAEL NEIDORF TELLS 1086 00:28:08,233 --> 00:28:10,866 SUCH A COMPELLING STORY. 1087 00:28:10,866 --> 00:28:11,466 MICHAEL NEIDORF, CENTENE, 1088 00:28:11,466 --> 00:28:12,900 WHAT A HORSE THAT THING IS. 1089 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:14,000 YOU HAVE IMPRESSED ME OVER 1090 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,833 THE YEARS AS SOMEONE WHO IS 1091 00:28:14,833 --> 00:28:15,433 REALLY OUT FOR THE CONSUMER TO 1092 00:28:15,433 --> 00:28:17,133 GET THE BEST HEALTH CARE. 1093 00:28:17,133 --> 00:28:18,266 YOU HAVE MICHAEL NEIDORF ON 1094 00:28:18,266 --> 00:28:18,600 ALL THE TIME. 1095 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,533 NO, CENTENE. 1096 00:28:19,533 --> 00:28:20,200 I THINK THAT MICHAEL NEIDORFF 1097 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,733 IS AMAZING. 1098 00:28:21,733 --> 00:28:22,600 BY THE WAY, HE LOOKS GREAT 1099 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,533 FOR 77. 1100 00:28:25,533 --> 00:28:26,200 HE GOT, HE'S AMAZING AND HE'S 1101 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,433 JUST ALSO A FANTASTIC CHARITABLE 1102 00:28:27,433 --> 00:28:27,600 MAN. 1103 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,800 John: OKAY, YOU ALREADY KNEW 1104 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,033 THAT CRAMER'S WRONG ABOUT THE 1105 00:28:33,033 --> 00:28:33,666 COMPANY, BUT BEFORE WE EVEN GET 1106 00:28:33,666 --> 00:28:34,500 TO THAT, I'LL POINT OUT THAT THE 1107 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,566 GUY THEY JUST SAID LOOKED "GREAT 1108 00:28:36,566 --> 00:28:37,166 FOR 77" WAS ACTUALLY 79 AND-- 1109 00:28:37,166 --> 00:28:37,766 MORE IMPORTANTLY-- DIED JUST 1110 00:28:37,766 --> 00:28:40,433 FOUR MONTHS LATER. 1111 00:28:40,433 --> 00:28:41,466 IT SEEMS ANY OPTIMISTIC 1112 00:28:41,466 --> 00:28:43,166 PREDICTION THAT JIM CRAMER'S 1113 00:28:43,166 --> 00:28:45,333 INVOLVED WITH IS ENOUGH TO KILL 1114 00:28:45,333 --> 00:28:46,766 A BUSINESS OR EVEN A PERSON. 1115 00:28:46,766 --> 00:28:48,666 SEEING HIM COMPLIMENT YOU ON TV 1116 00:28:48,666 --> 00:28:55,733 IS THE CLOSEST THING WE HAVE TO 1117 00:28:56,566 --> 00:28:57,500 WATCHING THE TAPE FROM 1118 00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:58,266 "THE RING" IN REAL LIFE. 1119 00:28:58,266 --> 00:28:58,900 AS FOR CENTENE ITSELF, THERE ARE 1120 00:28:58,900 --> 00:28:59,533 SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW IT'S 1121 00:28:59,533 --> 00:29:00,033 MADE SOME OF ITS MONEY. 1122 00:29:00,033 --> 00:29:00,900 IN 2021, AFTER OHIO SUED IT FOR 1123 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:01,966 OVERBILLING MEDICAID, IT 1124 00:29:01,966 --> 00:29:03,700 SETTLED, AND PAID THE STATE $88 1125 00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:10,766 MILLION. 1126 00:29:12,833 --> 00:29:13,666 IN FACT, IT WENT ON TO SETTLE 1127 00:29:13,666 --> 00:29:14,800 SIMILAR ALLEGATIONS IN AT LEAST 1128 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,866 19 STATES, FOR NEARLY $1 1129 00:29:15,866 --> 00:29:16,100 BILLION. 1130 00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:16,733 AND I WOULD ARGUE IF YOU'VE HAD 1131 00:29:16,733 --> 00:29:17,366 TO DO THAT, YOU MAY NOT DESERVE 1132 00:29:17,366 --> 00:29:17,966 TO EXIST AS A COMPANY ANYMORE, 1133 00:29:17,966 --> 00:29:18,533 LET ALONE HAVE WALL STREET'S 1134 00:29:18,533 --> 00:29:21,033 THIRSTIEST BUSINESS BOY GO 1135 00:29:21,033 --> 00:29:21,633 "HUBBA HUBBA AWOOGA" OVER YOUR 1136 00:29:21,633 --> 00:29:23,700 STOCK PRICE. 1137 00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:24,933 AND LOOK, FINANCIAL DAMAGE IS 1138 00:29:24,933 --> 00:29:25,233 ONE THING. 1139 00:29:25,233 --> 00:29:27,133 BUT THE MOST INFURIATING THING 1140 00:29:27,133 --> 00:29:28,700 ABOUT MCO'S IS THAT-- AS WITH 1141 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:29,433 SO MANY PLAYERS IN OUR 1142 00:29:29,433 --> 00:29:30,833 FOR-PROFIT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM-- 1143 00:29:30,833 --> 00:29:32,900 THEY'RE INCENTIVIZED TO CUT 1144 00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:33,666 COSTS AT THE EXPENSE OF 1145 00:29:33,666 --> 00:29:35,133 NECESSARY CARE. 1146 00:29:35,133 --> 00:29:37,133 BECAUSE MCO'S GET PAID A SET 1147 00:29:37,133 --> 00:29:37,733 MONTHLY AMOUNT PER PERSON-- 1148 00:29:37,733 --> 00:29:40,266 MEANING THEY GET A FIXED RATE. 1149 00:29:40,266 --> 00:29:42,266 SO THEIR PROFIT IS WHATEVER THEY 1150 00:29:42,266 --> 00:29:43,666 DON'T SPEND ON PATIENTS. 1151 00:29:43,666 --> 00:29:48,766 AND YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE WHERE 1152 00:29:48,766 --> 00:29:49,733 THIS IS GOING. 1153 00:29:49,733 --> 00:29:51,166 IN STATE AFTER STATE, THERE'VE 1154 00:29:51,166 --> 00:29:51,900 BEEN HEARTBREAKING STORIES OF 1155 00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:52,933 MCO'S PRIORITIZING COST SAVINGS 1156 00:29:52,933 --> 00:29:54,066 OVER PATIENTS. 1157 00:29:54,066 --> 00:29:55,733 THERE'VE BEEN HEADLINES ABOUT IT 1158 00:29:55,733 --> 00:29:59,633 IN FLORIDA, HEADLINES IN TEXAS, 1159 00:29:59,633 --> 00:30:01,900 AND HEADLINES IN IOWA. 1160 00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:02,500 AND JUST TO FOCUS ON IOWA, IT 1161 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:03,600 TRANSITIONED TO USING MCO'S TO 1162 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,166 RUN ITS MEDICAID PROGRAM IN 1163 00:30:04,166 --> 00:30:06,366 2016, AND IN JUST ITS FIRST 1164 00:30:06,366 --> 00:30:09,066 THREE YEARS, THERE WAS A NEARLY 1165 00:30:09,066 --> 00:30:09,900 900% INCREASE IN MEMBERS BEING 1166 00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,366 ILLEGALLY DENIED SERVICES OR 1167 00:30:12,366 --> 00:30:12,566 CARE. 1168 00:30:12,566 --> 00:30:15,066 AND SOME OF THE COST-CUTTING WAS 1169 00:30:15,166 --> 00:30:16,700 ABSOLUTELY ENRAGING-- LIKE WHAT 1170 00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:17,700 HAPPENED WITH LOUIS FACENDA, WHO 1171 00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:18,866 HAS CEREBRAL PALSY AND WAS 1172 00:30:18,866 --> 00:30:20,200 LIVING WITH HIS MOTHER. 1173 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,666 HE NEEDS A LOT OF CARE, WHICH 1174 00:30:21,666 --> 00:30:23,300 PRIOR TO THE SWITCH-OVER WAS 1175 00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:25,266 PROVIDED BY MEDICAID. 1176 00:30:25,266 --> 00:30:26,600 BUT ONCE AN MCO GOT INVOLVED, HE 1177 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,433 LOST A LOT OF WHAT HE'D BEEN 1178 00:30:28,433 --> 00:30:29,000 GETTING, STARTING WITH HIS 1179 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,066 MEDICATIONS. 1180 00:30:30,066 --> 00:30:31,800 IT WAS A NIGHTMARE. 1181 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,366 IT WAS-- IT WAS LITERALLY A 1182 00:30:32,366 --> 00:30:34,033 NIGHTMARE. 1183 00:30:34,033 --> 00:30:35,633 WHAT AM I GONNA DO? 1184 00:30:35,633 --> 00:30:36,133 I CAN'T AFFORD ALL THAT 1185 00:30:36,133 --> 00:30:37,966 MEDICATION. 1186 00:30:37,966 --> 00:30:38,800 ALSO CUT WERE HIS DAILY NURSE 1187 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,633 VISITS. 1188 00:30:40,633 --> 00:30:44,466 SO, FOR SIX WEEKS, LOUIS WENT 1189 00:30:44,466 --> 00:30:45,100 WITHOUT THE IN-HOME BATHING AND 1190 00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:45,700 DIAPER CHANGING HE HAD HAD FOR 1191 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:45,900 YEARS. 1192 00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:48,166 HE WASN'T GETTING CHANGED 1193 00:30:48,266 --> 00:30:49,333 LIKE HE WOULD NORMALLY GET 1194 00:30:49,333 --> 00:30:51,466 CHANGED TWO OR THREE TIMES OR 1195 00:30:51,466 --> 00:30:51,766 MORE A DAY. 1196 00:30:51,766 --> 00:30:53,933 IT WASN'T JUST THE SERVICES, 1197 00:30:53,933 --> 00:30:56,533 IT WAS THE MENTAL PART OF HIS-- 1198 00:30:56,533 --> 00:30:58,400 HIS STATE OF MIND, NOT 1199 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,100 UNDERSTANDING WHY ALL THIS WAS 1200 00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:05,766 HAPPENING. 1201 00:31:05,766 --> 00:31:06,633 John: LOOK, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY 1202 00:31:06,633 --> 00:31:07,133 MADDENING. 1203 00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:07,733 AND IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER 1204 00:31:07,733 --> 00:31:08,666 WHEN YOU HEAR A DOCTOR AT 1205 00:31:08,666 --> 00:31:09,366 AMERIHEALTH, THE MCO THAT TOOK 1206 00:31:09,366 --> 00:31:09,966 OVER IN IOWA, EXPLAINING, IN A 1207 00:31:09,966 --> 00:31:11,733 HEARING ABOUT A SIMILAR PATIENT, 1208 00:31:11,733 --> 00:31:13,866 JUST WHAT THE CORPORATE THINKING 1209 00:31:13,866 --> 00:31:19,233 WAS ABOUT THE NECESSITY OF 1210 00:31:19,233 --> 00:31:20,433 KEEPING PEOPLE CLEAN. 1211 00:31:20,533 --> 00:31:21,033 PEOPLE HAVE BOWEL MOVEMENTS 1212 00:31:21,133 --> 00:31:22,900 EVERY DAY WHERE THEY DON'T 1213 00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:24,033 COMPLETELY CLEAN THEMSELVES, AND 1214 00:31:24,033 --> 00:31:24,900 WE DON'T FUSS OVER TOO MUCH. 1215 00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:25,733 PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO BE DIRTY. 1216 00:31:25,733 --> 00:31:27,533 YOU KNOW, I WOULD ALLOW HIM TO 1217 00:31:27,533 --> 00:31:28,166 BE A LITTLE DIRTY FOR A COUPLE 1218 00:31:28,166 --> 00:31:35,233 OF DAYS. 1219 00:31:39,133 --> 00:31:40,966 John: LOOK, I'LL BE HONEST, 1220 00:31:40,966 --> 00:31:41,500 WHEN I FIRST HEARD THAT, I 1221 00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:42,100 THOUGHT, "THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN 1222 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:42,466 OUT OF CONTEXT. 1223 00:31:42,466 --> 00:31:43,066 THERE'S NO WAY A DOCTOR-- A 1224 00:31:43,066 --> 00:31:43,633 LICENSED PHYSICIAN-- WOULD 1225 00:31:43,633 --> 00:31:44,233 TESTIFY, IN A HEARING, THAT HE 1226 00:31:44,233 --> 00:31:45,266 THINKS IT'S OKAY IF PEOPLE SIT 1227 00:31:45,266 --> 00:31:46,100 IN THEIR OWN SHIT FOR DAYS." 1228 00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:46,733 SO WE GOT THE FULL HEARING, AND 1229 00:31:46,733 --> 00:31:47,333 I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT FOR 1230 00:31:47,333 --> 00:31:47,966 YOU, I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU 1231 00:31:47,966 --> 00:31:48,733 HE SAID IT, HE MEANT IT, AND 1232 00:31:48,733 --> 00:31:49,366 IT MADE ME WANT TO PUNCH A HOLE 1233 00:31:49,366 --> 00:31:50,733 IN THE WALL. 1234 00:31:50,733 --> 00:31:51,733 AND JUST WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN 1235 00:31:51,733 --> 00:31:52,300 LOUIS AND HIS MOM WERE TOLD 1236 00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:53,133 ABOUT WHAT THAT DOCTOR JUST 1237 00:31:53,133 --> 00:31:55,066 SAID. 1238 00:31:55,166 --> 00:31:56,066 WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO HIM IF 1239 00:31:56,066 --> 00:31:57,866 HE WAS HERE? 1240 00:31:57,866 --> 00:31:58,966 I WOULD SPIT IN HIS FACE, TO 1241 00:31:58,966 --> 00:31:59,966 BE HONEST. 1242 00:31:59,966 --> 00:32:00,600 YEAH. 1243 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,633 RIGHT, LOUIS, YOU LIKE TO BE 1244 00:32:01,633 --> 00:32:02,833 CLEAN. 1245 00:32:02,833 --> 00:32:05,766 I THINK IT'S HORRIBLE. 1246 00:32:05,766 --> 00:32:09,200 I DON'T HAVE WORDS FOR THAT. 1247 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,400 John: YEAH, I'M STRUGGLING 1248 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,766 FOR WORDS, TOO. 1249 00:32:11,766 --> 00:32:13,700 I WILL SAY, LOUIS KIND OF NAILED 1250 00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:14,933 IT BY BLOWING THAT RASPBERRY-- 1251 00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:16,433 AND I DID APPRECIATE THAT 1252 00:32:16,433 --> 00:32:17,333 REPORTER DOING A FULL "JIM FROM 1253 00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:18,800 THE OFFICE" LOOK TO CAMERA AND 1254 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,566 NODDING. 1255 00:32:23,566 --> 00:32:24,200 BUT IF I ABSOLUTELY HAD TO PUT 1256 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:24,833 IT TO WORDS, I'D SAY "FUCK THAT 1257 00:32:24,833 --> 00:32:25,766 DOCTOR WITH A RUSTY CANOE, I 1258 00:32:25,766 --> 00:32:26,700 HOPE HE GETS TETANUS OF THE 1259 00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:27,266 BALLS." 1260 00:32:27,266 --> 00:32:28,400 AND IF HE HAS A PROBLEM WITH MY 1261 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:29,333 LANGUAGE THERE, I'D SAY, I'M 1262 00:32:29,433 --> 00:32:29,900 ALLOWED TO BE DIRTY. 1263 00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:30,800 PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO BE A 1264 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,733 LITTLE DIRTY SOMETIMES. 1265 00:32:32,733 --> 00:32:33,266 APPARENTLY THAT'S DOCTOR'S 1266 00:32:33,266 --> 00:32:40,333 FUCKING ORDERS. 1267 00:32:41,366 --> 00:32:42,033 AND WHILE LEGALLY, I HAVE TO 1268 00:32:42,033 --> 00:32:43,766 TELL YOU, AMERIHEALTH WANTS ME 1269 00:32:43,766 --> 00:32:45,233 TO TELL YOU LOUIS DID GET THAT 1270 00:32:45,233 --> 00:32:45,800 SERVICE RESTORED, I'LL POINT 1271 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,566 OUT: IT WAS ONLY "AFTER" HIS 1272 00:32:46,566 --> 00:32:47,133 STORY MADE THE NEWS. 1273 00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:47,766 LOOK, THE REALITY OF MEDICAID IS 1274 00:32:47,766 --> 00:32:48,333 THAT TOO OFTEN, IT'S HARD TO 1275 00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:48,900 GET, EASY TO LOSE, AND NOT A 1276 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:49,533 PRIORITY FOR THE GOVERNMENT, OR 1277 00:32:49,533 --> 00:32:53,266 THE COMPANIES WE HIRE TO RUN IT. 1278 00:32:53,266 --> 00:32:53,933 SO WHAT CAN WE DO? 1279 00:32:53,933 --> 00:32:55,466 WELL, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE-- I 1280 00:32:55,466 --> 00:32:57,133 PERSONALLY THINK THE BIG 1281 00:32:57,133 --> 00:32:57,700 SOLUTION HERE IS TO ADOPT A 1282 00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:00,366 UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE MODEL. 1283 00:33:00,466 --> 00:33:00,966 BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I'D ARGUE 1284 00:33:01,066 --> 00:33:01,833 BOTH THE CURRENT UNWINDING, AND 1285 00:33:01,933 --> 00:33:04,033 MEDICAID PROGRAMS IN GENERAL, 1286 00:33:04,033 --> 00:33:05,000 NEED TO BE RUN WITH 1287 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,566 SIGNIFICANTLY MORE CARE AND 1288 00:33:05,566 --> 00:33:07,533 EFFICIENCY. 1289 00:33:07,533 --> 00:33:09,066 AND THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THAT. 1290 00:33:09,066 --> 00:33:09,966 FOR INSTANCE, WHEN IT COMES TO 1291 00:33:09,966 --> 00:33:12,133 DETERMINING ELIGIBILITY, MAYBE 1292 00:33:12,133 --> 00:33:14,666 RATHER THAN SENDING 47-PAGE 1293 00:33:14,666 --> 00:33:16,266 FORMS TO HORSES, STATES COULD 1294 00:33:16,266 --> 00:33:18,366 INSTEAD RELY ON INFORMATION THEY 1295 00:33:18,366 --> 00:33:19,000 ALREADY HAVE IN THEIR DATABASES. 1296 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,900 THAT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD MAKE 1297 00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:22,733 BIT MORE SENSE. 1298 00:33:22,733 --> 00:33:23,266 MICHIGAN'S ACTUALLY A GOOD 1299 00:33:23,266 --> 00:33:23,600 EXAMPLE HERE. 1300 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,766 IT WORKED WITH A DESIGN 1301 00:33:24,766 --> 00:33:25,833 NONPROFIT TO RETOOL ITS 1302 00:33:25,833 --> 00:33:27,066 APPLICATION AND RENEWAL 1303 00:33:27,066 --> 00:33:28,466 PROCESSES FOR ALL PUBLIC 1304 00:33:28,466 --> 00:33:30,466 BENEFITS, AND THE RESULT WAS 1305 00:33:30,466 --> 00:33:32,333 THAT 95% OF RENEWALS WERE 1306 00:33:32,333 --> 00:33:33,966 SUBMITTED ON TIME, WITH A 60% 1307 00:33:34,066 --> 00:33:35,533 DROP IN USER ERRORS. 1308 00:33:35,633 --> 00:33:39,400 ON THE FEDERAL END, CONGRESS 1309 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,000 COULD ENSURE THAT THE AGENCY 1310 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,733 THAT ADMINISTERS MEDICAID HAS 1311 00:33:40,733 --> 00:33:41,600 THE RESOURCES IT NEEDS TO 1312 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,933 OVERSEE STATE COMPLIANCE. 1313 00:33:43,933 --> 00:33:45,200 AND FINALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO 1314 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,033 MCO'S, IF THEY'RE GOING TO 1315 00:33:46,033 --> 00:33:47,800 CONTINUE PLAYING A ROLE HERE, 1316 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,733 THERE CLEARLY HAS TO BE WAY MORE 1317 00:33:49,733 --> 00:33:50,533 OVERSIGHT. 1318 00:33:50,533 --> 00:33:52,633 WITH PERFORMANCE REVIEWS BEING 1319 00:33:52,633 --> 00:33:53,700 THOROUGH AND PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY 1320 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:55,500 WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE 1321 00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,166 DENIALS OF CARE. 1322 00:33:57,166 --> 00:33:58,800 AND UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE DO ALL 1323 00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,400 THAT, THE VERY LEAST WE CAN DO 1324 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,900 IS MAKE MEDICAID PSA'S THAT 1325 00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:03,733 ACTUALLY PREPARE PEOPLE FOR THE 1326 00:34:03,733 --> 00:34:04,866 REALITIES OF OUR CURRENT MESS OF 1327 00:34:04,866 --> 00:34:08,966 A SYSTEM. 1328 00:34:09,066 --> 00:34:11,500 ♪ ♪ 1329 00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:14,533 HEY, DID YOU KNOW YOU MIGHT 1330 00:34:14,533 --> 00:34:15,933 BE ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAID? 1331 00:34:15,933 --> 00:34:17,300 YOU'RE A TALKING PEACH. 1332 00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:19,400 SURE M, BUT THAT'S NOT 1333 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,100 IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW. 1334 00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:23,733 WHAT YOU MEAN, AND ALL 1335 00:34:23,733 --> 00:34:24,266 PEACHES ALWAYS TALK? 1336 00:34:24,266 --> 00:34:25,800 SURE WE COULD, BUT DON'T 1337 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,300 FOCUS ON THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO 1338 00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:30,066 TALK TO YOU ABOUT MEDICAID. 1339 00:34:30,066 --> 00:34:33,200 IS ANYBODY ELSE SEEING THIS 1340 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:33,633 TALKING PEACH? 1341 00:34:33,633 --> 00:34:34,933 THE PROBLEM IS DIFFERENT TO 1342 00:34:34,933 --> 00:34:36,533 PENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE. 1343 00:34:36,533 --> 00:34:40,333 THE GOOD NEWS IS IN ALL STATES 1344 00:34:40,433 --> 00:34:42,633 GENERALLY LOW INCOME CHILDREN, 1345 00:34:42,633 --> 00:34:46,466 WOMEN, AND FAMILY ARE ELIGIBLE 1346 00:34:46,466 --> 00:34:47,400 FOR MEDICAID P.R. >> ARE THERE 1347 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,833 GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF LOOPHOLES 1348 00:34:50,833 --> 00:34:51,166 OR SOMETHING? 1349 00:34:51,166 --> 00:34:52,433 YOU HAVE NO IDEA. 1350 00:34:52,433 --> 00:34:55,166 HE'S RIGHT, TAKE MY STATE 1351 00:34:55,166 --> 00:34:56,000 TAXES. 1352 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,133 OH, MY GOD, THERE IS YOU. 1353 00:34:59,133 --> 00:35:00,800 WHAT IS NOTHING? 1354 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,733 I'M A SWEET POTATO. 1355 00:35:02,733 --> 00:35:05,100 LET'S SAY YOU'RE A SINGLE MOM 1356 00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:05,433 WITH TWO KIDS. 1357 00:35:05,433 --> 00:35:07,100 IF YOU ARE MAKING OVER $344 A 1358 00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:10,700 MONTH, YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR 1359 00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:11,066 MEDICAID AT ALL. 1360 00:35:11,066 --> 00:35:13,133 IT'S TRUE AND THEN GEORGIA IF 1361 00:35:13,133 --> 00:35:15,266 YOU DON'T HAVE KIDS, YOU BETTER 1362 00:35:15,366 --> 00:35:15,600 BE WORKING. 1363 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,433 OTHERWISE YOU CAN'T GET 1364 00:35:17,433 --> 00:35:18,333 MEDICAID. 1365 00:35:18,333 --> 00:35:19,466 HEY, GOOD FOR YOU, YOU'RE NOT 1366 00:35:19,466 --> 00:35:21,666 RUNNING A CHARITY OVER THERE. 1367 00:35:21,666 --> 00:35:23,900 THERE IS DIGNITY WORK. 1368 00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:26,100 IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE HUMAN 1369 00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:26,833 PERSON. 1370 00:35:26,833 --> 00:35:29,200 HEY, Y'ALL, I'M FROM 1371 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:29,666 LOUISIANA. 1372 00:35:29,666 --> 00:35:31,533 WHAT'S UP WITH THIS ONE'S 1373 00:35:31,533 --> 00:35:31,733 EYES? 1374 00:35:31,733 --> 00:35:35,300 YEAH, THIS ONE HAS WRONG EYES 1375 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:35,500 EYES. 1376 00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:36,533 WE CHECK YOUR FINANCES EVERY 1377 00:35:36,533 --> 00:35:38,266 THREE MONTHS TO MAKE SURE YOU 1378 00:35:38,266 --> 00:35:40,766 HAVEN'T GOTTEN SOME OVERTIME OR 1379 00:35:40,766 --> 00:35:41,533 PICKED UP WORK. 1380 00:35:41,533 --> 00:35:47,933 GETS ONE, AND IN WYOMING, YOU CAN 1381 00:35:48,033 --> 00:35:50,300 QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID AT ALL! 1382 00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:53,466 NO MATTER WHAT YOUR INCOME IS! 1383 00:35:53,466 --> 00:35:56,033 THERE IS LITERALLY NO WAY TO 1384 00:35:56,033 --> 00:35:56,600 QUALIFY FOR IT! 1385 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,233 OH, MY LORD, IS NOT TRUE? 1386 00:36:00,233 --> 00:36:02,300 OUT OF WORK AND MAKING MONEY? 1387 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:03,600 YES? 1388 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,133 THAT'S MESSED UP. 1389 00:36:08,133 --> 00:36:11,633 I AGREE WITH THE COCONUT, 1390 00:36:11,633 --> 00:36:12,300 THAT IS SUPER FUCKED UP. 1391 00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:15,400 COME OVER HERE, BUDDY, STAND 1392 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,433 OVER ON THIS SIDE AWAY FROM THE 1393 00:36:18,433 --> 00:36:19,533 PRODUCE. 1394 00:36:19,533 --> 00:36:23,433 DON'T WORRY, HIS MEDICAID 1395 00:36:23,433 --> 00:36:23,933 COVERAGE WON'T BE CUT. 1396 00:36:23,933 --> 00:36:26,266 UNLESS YOU DON'T FILL OUT THE 1397 00:36:26,266 --> 00:36:27,333 PROPER PAPERWORK BUT MAYBE IF 1398 00:36:27,333 --> 00:36:27,933 YOU DO. 1399 00:36:27,933 --> 00:36:29,000 THERE'S A GLITCH IN THE SYSTEM 1400 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,100 LIKE I DON'T KNOW, MAILING YOUR 1401 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,433 FORM TO A HORSE PASTURE. 1402 00:36:34,433 --> 00:36:36,066 IT'S HAPPENED, Y'ALL! 1403 00:36:36,066 --> 00:36:39,866 HOW DID YOUR KID WAS REALLY 1404 00:36:39,866 --> 00:36:40,566 BORN ANYWAY? 1405 00:36:40,566 --> 00:36:41,100 EXCUSE ME? 1406 00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:44,066 IF THE KID WAS NOT BORN HE 1407 00:36:44,066 --> 00:36:45,133 DOESN'T GET MEDICAID. 1408 00:36:45,133 --> 00:36:53,166 PROVE HE WAS BORN! 1409 00:36:58,733 --> 00:37:00,000 [CHANTING "PROVE HE WAS BORN"] 1410 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:00,800 PROVE HE WAS BORN! 1411 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,400 I DON'T HAVE TO PROVE 1412 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,700 ANYTHING TO YOU! 1413 00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:05,700 YOUR VEGETABLES! 1414 00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:07,066 THE CHILD IS THE PROOF! 1415 00:37:07,066 --> 00:37:09,033 LISTEN, I KNOW IT'S ALL 1416 00:37:09,033 --> 00:37:10,633 COMPLICATED SO FEEL FREE TO GIVE 1417 00:37:10,633 --> 00:37:12,433 YOUR STATE MEDICAID OFFICE A 1418 00:37:12,433 --> 00:37:13,066 CALL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 1419 00:37:13,066 --> 00:37:14,566 BE PATIENT THOUGH, AND FOR 1420 00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:15,766 THE IT TAKES MORE THAN AN HOUR 1421 00:37:15,766 --> 00:37:18,066 TO GET A LIVE PERSON ON THE 1422 00:37:18,066 --> 00:37:18,466 PHONE. 1423 00:37:18,466 --> 00:37:22,100 NO WAY, DUDE! 1424 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:25,600 [SPEAKING NON-ENGLISH LANGUAGE] 1425 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,033 I DON'T SPEAK SPANISH. 1426 00:37:27,133 --> 00:37:30,933 HE SAID THERE'S AN 80% CHANCE 1427 00:37:30,933 --> 00:37:32,533 YOUR CALL WILL BE DISCONNECTED 1428 00:37:32,533 --> 00:37:32,833 BY ACCIDENT. 1429 00:37:32,833 --> 00:37:34,066 ONCE EVEN THE POINT OF CALLING 1430 00:37:34,066 --> 00:37:34,266 THEN? 1431 00:37:34,266 --> 00:37:36,500 BECAUSE IT'S A FUN THING TO 1432 00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:36,666 DO. 1433 00:37:36,666 --> 00:37:37,666 I AGREE. 1434 00:37:37,666 --> 00:37:40,700 OKAY, WE'RE LEAVING NOW, 1435 00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:41,133 THANK YOU MR. PEACH. 1436 00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:43,666 MR. BEACHY IS MY BROTHER. 1437 00:37:43,666 --> 00:37:46,066 AND YOU AND HIM LAST WEEK. 1438 00:37:46,066 --> 00:37:48,866 AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO EAT YOU! 1439 00:37:48,866 --> 00:37:51,200 OH, SHIT. 1440 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,133 [SCREAMING] 1441 00:37:54,133 --> 00:37:56,733 John: THAT IS OUR SHOW, THANK 1442 00:37:56,733 --> 00:37:57,266 YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING! 1443 00:37:57,266 --> 00:37:58,200 WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. 1444 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,466 GOOD NIGHT! 1445 00:38:01,566 --> 00:38:02,933 EXCEEDS ME, HELLO, CAN YOU 1446 00:38:02,933 --> 00:38:04,500 HELP ME? 1447 00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:08,966 CAN YOU REMOVE THIS HUSK FROM MY 1448 00:38:08,966 --> 00:38:09,733 EYE? 1449 00:38:09,733 --> 00:38:11,033 IS HANGING DOWN. 1450 00:38:11,033 --> 00:38:12,866 IT'S HANGING OVER. 1451 00:38:12,866 --> 00:38:13,100 PLEASE. 1452 00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:15,533 I'D LIKE TO SEE IN BOTH EYES. 1453 00:38:15,533 --> 00:38:18,333 POR FAVOR. 1454 00:38:18,333 --> 00:38:22,400 I DON'T HAVE HANDS. 1455 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,766 GRACIAS. 1456 00:38:23,766 --> 00:38:25,400 THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.