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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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John: WELCOME, WELCOME,

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WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT"!

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I'M JOHN OLIVER, THANK YOU SO

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MUCH FOR JOINING US.

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IT HAS BEEN A BUSY WEEK.

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KRISTI NOEM CUT SHORT HER BOOK

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TOUR, ALLOWING HER MORE TIME AT

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HOME, WHICH SHOULD BE CONCERNING

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TO ANY OF HER REMAINING PETS.

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IT EMERGED THAT RFK JR. ONCE

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SAID A WORM ATE PART OF HIS

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BRAIN, WHICH HONESTLY SOUNDS

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LIKE A TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE FOR

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THAT WORM, AND THE EUROVISION

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SONG CONTEST TOOK PLACE AMID A

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SLEW OF CONTROVERSIES, FROM

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CALLS FOR BOYCOTTS OVER ISRAEL'S

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PARTICIPATION, TO THE

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LAST-MINUTE ELIMINATION OF THIS

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DUTCH CONTESTANT FOR ALLEGED

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"UNLAWFUL THREATS" BACKSTAGE.

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IT WAS A LOT OF SERIOUS NEWS

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AROUND WHAT'S USUALLY A

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MAGNIFICENTLY SILLY COMPETITION

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WHICH, TO BE FAIR, STILL HAD

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SOME STRIKING CONTESTANTS, FROM

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BABY LASAGNA FROM CROATIA, TO

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BAMBIE THUG, FROM IRELAND, TO MY

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FAVORITE, THIS GUY FROM FINLAND.

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♪ SILENCE, I SAY THIS IS MY

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TIME, MY STAGE ♪

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♪ CALL ME WHAT YOU MAY ♪

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♪ SEE IF I CARE ♪

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♪ SEE ME SLAY ♪

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♪ IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH

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THE WAY I LOOK ♪

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WHO I AM ♪

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♪ IF I'M NOT ALRIGHT TELL ME

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WHY ♪

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♪ DO I FEEL SO BEAUTIFUL

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TONIGHT ♪

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♪ NO RULES! ♪

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John: YES.

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14,000 OUT OF 10.

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A MAN WITH FLOWING BLONDE LOCKS

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AND PERVERT GLASSES, HATCHING

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OUT OF A DENIM EGG?

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IT'S LIKE BOTTICELLI'S BIRTH OF

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VENUS, ONLY THIS TIME IT'S

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ACTUALLY GOOD.

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THE NAME OF THAT ARTIST-- AND I

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DO MEAN "ARTIST"-- IS

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"WINDOWS95MAN."

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HIS STAGE COSTUME CONSISTS OF A

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WINDOWS 95 T-SHIRT, HAT, AND,

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IMPORTANTLY, NOT MUCH ELSE.

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WHICH IS WHY HIS PERFORMANCES

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BASICALLY CONSIST OF HIM DOING

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AN EXTENDED "AUSTIN POWERS" BIT.

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BUT MAYBE THE BEST THING ABOUT

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WINDOWS95MAN, OTHER THAN HIS

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NAME, FACE, OUTFIT, AND PARTIAL

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NUDITY IS THAT, DURING FINLAND'S

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CONTEST TO PICK ITS

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REPRESENTATIVE AT EUROVISION,

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THE JURY RANKED HIM DEAD LAST,

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BUT HE TOOK THE AUDIENCE VOTE BY

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SUCH A LARGE MARGIN HE WON

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ANYWAY.

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WHICH MAKES SENSE.

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THE PEOPLE OF FINLAND ARE

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NATURALS AT SKI-JUMPING, SAUNA,

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AND KNOWING A FUCKING STAR WHEN

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR OTHER

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CONTESTANTS WERE LIKE, BUT I

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LIKE A PAIR OF JEAN SHORTS

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DESCENDING FROM THE CEILING,

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FOLLOWED BY THIS.

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MAKE SOME NOISE, LET'S GO!

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♪ IN THE HEAT OF THE NIGHT ♪

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♪ IN THE THRILL OF THE FIGHT ♪

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♪ I DON'T EVEN CARE WHAT'S WRONG

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♪ IT'S HOW I LIVE MY LIFE ♪

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♪ NO RULES ♪

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John: FUCK ALL OTHER MUSIC,

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IT'S DEAD TO ME NOW!

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AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE

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WON EUROVISION LAST NIGHT, BUT

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TO QUOTE A GREAT POET CLAD IN

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EXPLODING DENIM, "I DON'T CARE

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WHAT'S WRONG OR RIGHT, IT'S HOW

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AND THAT IS MY CHAMPION RIGHT

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THERE.

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BUT SADLY, WE'VE GOT TO TURN TO

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SOMETHING MUCH LESS FUN TO TALK

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ABOUT: THE U.K., WHOSE PRIME

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MINISTER RISHI SUNAK HAS BEEN

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HAVING A TERRIBLE TIME.

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HE NEEDS TO CALL A GENERAL

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ELECTION BEFORE NEXT JANUARY--

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WHICH HIS PARTY IS WIDELY

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EXPECTED TO LOSE.

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SO HE'S CURRENTLY TRYING TO

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SHORE UP SUPPORT WITH HIS BASE

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WITH A RIDICULOUS IMMIGRATION

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POLICY.

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LET ME EXPLAIN.

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FOR YEARS NOW, DESPERATE

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ENGLISH CHANNEL ON SMALL BOATS

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A PERILOUS JOURNEY THAT'S

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RESULTED IN HUNDREDS DROWNING.

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BUT INSTEAD OF PROCESSING THEIR

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ASYLUM APPLICATIONS, SUNAK'S

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SOLUTION IS TO PUT THEM ON

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PLANES AND FLY THEM FROM THE

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U.K. 4,000 MILES, ALL THE WAY TO

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RWANDA, WHERE-- JUST TO BE

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CLEAR-- THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY

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AND LAST WEEK, AMID A ROUNDUP OF

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THOSE MIGRANTS, SUNAK RELEASED

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THIS TRIUMPHANT VIDEO, SET TO

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DRAMATIC MUSIC.

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THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WILL BE

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ABOUT ACTION.

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WE NEED INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO

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ADDRESS WHAT IS A GLOBAL

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MIGRATION CRISIS.

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AND THE SUCCESS OF THIS

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DETERRENT DOESN'T REST ON ONE

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FLIGHT ALONE.

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IT RESTS ON THE RELENTLESS,

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CONTINUAL PROCESS OF

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SUCCESSFULLY AND PERMANENTLY

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REMOVING PEOPLE TO RWANDA.

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AND I HAVE A PLAN TO DELIVER IT.

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SO WE WILL START THE FLIGHTS AND

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WE WILL STOP THE BOATS.

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John: OKAY, I DON'T THINK

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THERE'S EVER BEEN A GREATER

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MISMATCH OF SOUNDTRACK TO HUMAN

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BEING.

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THAT MUSIC BELONGS UNDERNEATH

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BATMAN, NOT THE LEAST

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CHARISMATIC MAN ON EARTH, TRYING

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TO GIVE THE CONCEPT OF

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"BANISHMENT" A PR MAKEOVER.

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THIS PLAN WAS ACTUALLY STRUCK

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DOWN LAST YEAR BY THE UK'S

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SUPREME COURT, WHICH UNANIMOUSLY

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FOUND IT WOULD "BREACH BOTH

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BRITISH AND INTERNATIONAL LAW,"

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BECAUSE RWANDA COULD NOT BE

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CONSIDERED SAFE FOR REFUGEES.

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AND THE UN'S TOP HUMAN RIGHTS

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OFFICIAL HAS CRITICIZED THE

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POLICY, SAYING IT "SERIOUSLY

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HINDERS THE RULE OF LAW IN THE

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PRECEDENT GLOBALLY."

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AND YET, SUNAK HAS PERSISTED--

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EVEN AT ONE POINT ENGAGING IN

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THIS FUN WAGER.

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I'LL BET YOU A 1000 POUNDS TO

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A REFUGEE CHARITY, YOU DON'T GET

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ANYBODY ON THOSE PLANES BEFORE

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THE ELECTION.

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WILL YOU TAKE THAT BET?

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WELL, I-- LOOK, I WANT TO

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GET THE PEOPLE ON THE PLANES.

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OF COURSE I WANT TO GET THE

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PEOPLE ON THE PLANES!

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1000 POUNDS.

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I WANT TO GET THE PEOPLE ON

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THE PLANES.

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John: I WANT TO GET PEOPLE ON

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THE PLANES, DO YOU?

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SET ASIDE THE GROSSNESS ON

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DISPLAY THERE-- IMAGINE WHAT A

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MONSTER YOU HAVE TO BE, TO PUT

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ME IN THE POSITION OF GENUINELY

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WANTING PIERS MORGAN TO WIN

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SOMETHING.

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IN THE END, SUNAK DID AN END-RUN

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AROUND THE RULING THAT RWANDA

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WAS TOO DANGEROUS, BY SIMPLY

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HAVING HIS GOVERNMENT OFFICIALLY

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DECLARE RWANDA A SAFE COUNTRY, A

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LORDS CALLED "A LEGAL FICTION."

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AND I'D SAY THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE

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TITLE OF A NOVEL JAMES PATTERSON

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WROTE AFTER HE STOPPED GIVING A

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SHIT, BUT JUST TWO MONTHS AGO HE

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PUBLISHED ONE CALLED "THE #1

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LAWYER," "HE'S AMERICA'S BEST

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LAWYER UNTIL HE'S AMERICA'S #1

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MURDERER."

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AND SUNAK'S GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN

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AGGRESSIVE IN PUSHING IT.

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HIS FORMER HOME SECRETARY SUELLA

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BRAVERMAN WAS SUCH A HUGE

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ENTHUSIAST OF THE IDEA, SHE ONCE

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EXPRESSED HER FRUSTRATION AT HOW

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LONG IT WAS TAKING.

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I WOULD LOVE TO BE HERE

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SAYING, WELL, CLAIMING VICTORY.

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I WOULD LOVE TO BE HAVING A

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FRONT PAGE OF THE TELEGRAPH WITH

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A FLIGHT-- A PLANE TAKING OFF

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TO RWANDA, THAT'S MY DREAM.

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John: WAIT, THAT'S YOUR

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DREAM?

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PEOPLE'S DREAMS ARE NORMALLY

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"FALL IN LOVE" OR "MEET LEBRON

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JAMES" OR "KISS THIS HORSE ON

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THE MOUTH"-- Y'KNOW, COMPLETELY

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NORMAL STUFF, NOT "I'D LOVE TO

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VIOLATE HUMAN RIGHTS ON A

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POTENTIALLY MASSIVE SCALE."

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TO PUT A HAPPY FACE ON THE PLAN,

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BRAVERMAN EVEN TRAVELED TO

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RWANDA TO DO A PHOTO OP IN ONE

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OF THE ACCOMMODATIONS BEING

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PREPARED FOR ASYLUM SEEKERS.

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I VERY MUCH LIKE THE INTERIOR

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DESIGNER OR THE INTERIOR

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DESIGNER OF THESE BUILDINGS.

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THEY'RE JUST FANTASTIC.

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I WAS JUST SAYING, THE UM,

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THESE HOUSES ARE REALLY

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BEAUTIFUL, AND I THINK THEY'RE A

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HIGH QUALITY.

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THEY'RE WELCOMING.

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I QUITE LIKE YOUR INTERIOR

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DESIGNER.

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John: LOOK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT

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THE APPROPRIATE THING TO SAY IS

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WHILE TOURING THE FUTURE

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APARTMENT OF SOMEONE YOU'RE

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ABOUT TO DEPORT, BUT I'M PRETTY

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SURE IT ISN'T "HEY GIRL, IS YOUR

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DECORATOR TAKING ON NEW

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CLIENTS?"

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BECAUSE THAT LIGHT REALLY

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ANSWERS THE QUESTION "WHAT IF

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THE PIXAR LAMP GOT INVITED TO

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THE MET GALA AND KIND OF

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MISUNDERSTOOD THE ASSIGNMENT?"

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AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, AT

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LEAST 70% OF THE HOMES IN THAT

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DEVELOPMENT HAVE SINCE BEEN

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TAKEN BY LOCAL BUYERS, LEAVING

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SPACE FOR ONLY A FEW DOZEN

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MIGRANTS, IF FLIGHTS EVER TAKE

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OFF.

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AND THAT SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT

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EVEN PUTTING ASIDE ITS

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HORRIFIC MORAL CONSIDERATIONS--

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THIS PLAN IS INCREDIBLY POORLY

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THOUGHT THROUGH.

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BECAUSE I HAVEN'T EVEN MENTIONED

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THE COST YET.

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SUNAK HAS CLAIMED THAT IT WOULD

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"LITERALLY SAVE THE U.K.

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BILLIONS IN THE LONG RUN."

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AND FAR BE IT FOR ME TO QUESTION

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THE KEEN FINANCIAL ACUMEN OF A

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MAN WHO EARNED HIS GIGANTIC

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FORTUNE THROUGH MARRIAGE-- BUT

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THERE IS NO WAY THAT'S TRUE.

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BECAUSE RWANDA'S NOT TAKING

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THESE MIGRANTS OUT OF THE

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KINDNESS OF ITS HEART.

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THE U.K. GOVERNMENT'S ALREADY

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PAID IT 240 MILLION POUNDS FOR

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ITS ROLE IN THIS.

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AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO PAY

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540 MILLION TOTAL TO DEPORT JUST

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THE FIRST 300 MIGRANTS.

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AND JUST WATCH AS A REPORTER DID

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THE MATH IN FRONT OF SUNAK'S

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CHANCELLOR-- BASICALLY, THE

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U.K.'S TREASURY SECRETARY.

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ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL

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ORDER OFFICE, THE COST OF

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SENDING THE FIRST 300 MIGRANTS

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TO RWANDA IS 1.8 MILLION POUNDS

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EACH.

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NOW JUST TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT,

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SCHOOL FUNDING IS AROUND 7,600

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POUNDS PER CHILD PER YEAR, SO

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THE COST OF SENDING ONE MIGRANT

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TO RWANDA WOULD GIVE 234

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CHILDREN EDUCATION FOR A YEAR.

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IS THAT GOOD USE OF MONEY?

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YOU'RE THE CHANCELLOR.

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LET'S BE CLEAR.

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WE MIGHT SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO

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SEND SOME PEOPLE BACK TO RWANDA,

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BUT IF THAT HAS THE EFFECT OF

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DETERRING LOTS OF PEOPLE FROM

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TRYING TO COME TO THE U.K.--

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WE DON'T KNOW THAT.

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WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WILL OR

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NOT WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS.

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WE DON'T KNOW--

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WELL, WITH RESPECT SOPHIE, WE

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WE'RE ALREADY HEARING THIS WEEK

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THAT IT IS BEGINNING TO HAVE A

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DETERRENT EFFECT.

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John: OKAY, A FEW THINGS.

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FIRST, YOU'RE NOT SENDING PEOPLE

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BACK TO RWANDA, IF THAT'S NOT

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WHERE THEY'RE FROM IN THE FIRST

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PLACE.

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ALSO, "WE'RE HEARING IT'S HAVING

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A DETERRENT EFFECT" IS

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CONVENIENTLY VAGUE.

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YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BACK

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THAT CLAIM UP WITH MORE THAN

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JUST VIBES.

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BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE

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THIS IS GOING TO PUT PEOPLE OFF.

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ASYLUM SEEKERS TEND TO FLEE

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THEIR COUNTRY OUT OF NECESSITY.

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I DON'T THINK THEY'RE COMING TO

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THE U.K. FOR ITS BEAUTIFUL

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WEATHER OR TANTALIZING CUISINE.

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IN FACT, ONE OF THE REASONS THEY

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MIGHT BE COMING IS THE U.K. HAS

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LOUDLY ADVERTISED ITSELF AS A

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CHAMPION FOR HUMAN RIGHTS--

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WHICH THIS POLICY MAKES A

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MOCKERY OF.

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AND AFTER ALL THIS, IT'S WORTH

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MENTIONING THAT THE GOVERNMENT

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HAS SO FAR MANAGED TO SEND

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EXACTLY ONE MIGRANT TO RWANDA.

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AND NOT EVEN UNDER THIS LAW.

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IT WAS UNDER A VOLUNTARY SCHEME

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WHERE THE GOVERNMENT GIVES

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ASYLUM SEEKERS 3,000 POUNDS TO

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MOVE THERE.

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WHICH DOESN'T GET YOU TO

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"BILLIONS IN SAVINGS" FOR

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MULTIPLE REASONS, EVEN IF IT

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MIGHT GET YOU 1,000 POUNDS FROM

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PIERS FUCKING MORGAN.

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NONE OF THIS FEELS LIKELY TO

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WORK.

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MEANING THE MAIN OUTCOME OF

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SUNAK'S POLICY WILL BE THE

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MISERY AND CHAOS IT CAUSES.

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THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE,

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ENTIRELY EMBLEMATIC OF THE TORY

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PARTY, WHOSE NAKED CRUELTY HAS

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BEEN EXPOSED YET AGAIN FOR ALL

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TO SEE.

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AND UNFORTUNATELY FOR THEM,

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THERE'S NOT A PAIR OF FLAMING

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JORTS ON EARTH BIG ENOUGH TO

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COVER THAT UP.

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AND NOW, THIS.

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Announcer: AND NOW,

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THE MEN OF LOCAL NEWS ARE READY

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FOR MOTHER'S DAY.

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YOU CAN'T GO WRONG WITH

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FLOWERS.

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IT'S KIND AND-- AND A NICE

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CARD.

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EXCEPT WHEN I GET FLOWERS.

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WHAT DO YOU FEEL GUILTY

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ABOUT?

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MOM SAYS SHE DOESN'T WANT

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FLOWERS, DOES THAT MEAN SHE

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WANTS FLOWERS?

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I THINK SHE SAYING-- I THINK

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SHE IS SAYING STEP UP YOUR GAME.

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I'M OKAY WITH YOU GETTING THE

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TOP GIFT ON YOUR LIST RIGHT NOW.

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WHICH IS WHAT?

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I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

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I WAS GOING TO SAY GO AHEAD AND

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ORDER IT AND WE ARE GOOD TO GO.

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DO I DO ANYTHING FOR MY WIFE?

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OH, MY GOD, YES, SHE BIRTHED

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YOUR TWO CHILDREN!

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THAN THEY SHOULD DO SOMETHING

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FOR HER!

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I PLAN TO GIVE MY WIFE AND

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EXPERIENCE FOR MOTHER'S DAY.

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DO I WANT TO KNOW?

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THAT'S TRUE.

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JAMES, LISTEN, YOU CAN MAKE

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YOUR MOM A HOMEMADE CARD, DRAWN

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AND DOODLE ON IT, AND I'LL BET

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YOU THAT IT'D BE MEANINGFUL TO

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HER.

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NO.

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[LAUGHTER]

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John: MOVING ON.

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OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS

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THE OPIOID CRISIS.

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IF YOU TAKE OUT ONE I, IT'S

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ACTUALLY AN ANAGRAM FOR "RICH

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IDIOT POSSE," WHICH SHOULD MAKE

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A PRETTY GOOD SWEATSHIRT AT THE

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NEXT SACKLER FAMILY REUNION.

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THE OPIOID CRISIS IS STILL

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RAGING DESPITE VARYING EFFORTS

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TO COMBAT IT OVER THE YEARS,

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INCLUDING THIS BRILLIANT PLAN

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FROM THEN-PRESIDENT TRUMP.

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THE BEST WAY TO PREVENT DRUG

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ADDICTION AND OVERDOSE IS TO

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PREVENT PEOPLE FROM ABUSING

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DRUGS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

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IF THEY DON'T START, THEY WON'T

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HAVE A PROBLEM.

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IF THEY DO START, IT'S AWFULLY

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TOUGH TO GET OFF.

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SO WE CAN KEEP THEM FROM GOING

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ON AND MAYBE BY TALKING TO

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YOUTH, TELLING THEM "NO GOOD,

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REALLY BAD FOR YOU IN EVERY

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WAY," BUT IF THEY DON'T START,

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IT WILL NEVER BE A PROBLEM.

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John: HARD TO BELIEVE THAT

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MESSAGE DIDN'T LAND.

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FROM TRUMP "TALKING TO YOUTH"

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WITH THE WORDS "NO GOOD REALLY

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BAD FOR YOU IN EVERY WAY," TO

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MELANIA STARING ICILY INTO THE

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DISTANCE AS SHE BURNS ANOTHER

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DAY PATIENTLY WAITING FOR

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CORONARY ARTERY DISEASE TO DO

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ITS FUCKING JOB.

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THE POINT IS, THE OPIOID CRISIS

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IS NOWHERE NEAR OVER.

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IN FACT, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN

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WHAT'S BEEN REFERRED TO AS THE

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FOURTH WAVE OF IT.

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THE FIRST WAVE BEGAN WITH

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INCREASED PRESCRIBING OF OPIOIDS

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IN THE '90S, THE SECOND BEGAN IN

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2010 WITH HEROIN, FOLLOWED BY A

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THIRD WAVE AROUND 2013,

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INVOLVING SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS LIKE

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FENTANYL.

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AND THIS FOURTH WAVE IS

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CHARACTERIZED BY OVERDOSE DEATHS

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INVOLVING FENTANYL PLUS A

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STIMULANT, LIKE COCAINE OR METH

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WHICH CAN SOMETIMES BE SPIKED

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WITHOUT THE USER'S KNOWLEDGE.

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IN FACT, MOST OF THE STREET DRUG

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SUPPLY IS APPARENTLY NOW

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ADULTERATED-- THAT'S HOW

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PERVASIVE THIS PROBLEM IS.

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BUT TO THE EXTENT THERE'S ANY

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GOOD NEWS HERE, IT'S THAT THE

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COMPANIES MOST IMPLICATED IN

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THAT FIRST WAVE-- DRUGMAKERS

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AND OTHER PLAYERS IN THE SUPPLY

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CHAIN THAT PUMPED PILLS INTO

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COMMUNITIES-- HAVE FINALLY BEEN

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FORCED TO PAY A PRICE FOR THEIR

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ACTIONS.

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AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, IF YOU'VE

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SEEN STORIES LIKE THESE.

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WALMART HAS AGREED TO PAY

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$3.1 BILLION TO SETTLE LAWSUITS

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NATIONWIDE OVER THE IMPACT OF

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PRESCRIPTIONS ITS PHARMACIES

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FILLED FOR OPIOID PAINKILLERS.

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TWO OF THE LARGEST PHARMACY

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CHAINS WILL PAY ABOUT $10

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BILLION IN PRESCRIPTION OPIOID

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LAWSUIT SETTLEMENTS.

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FOUR U.S. CORPORATIONS WILL

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PAY A COMBINED $26 BILLION TO

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SETTLE CLAIMS OVER THEIR ROLE IN

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THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC.

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JOHNSON & JOHNSON AND THREE

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MAJOR DRUG DISTRIBUTORS AGREED

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TO THE SETTLEMENT, WHILE

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INSISTING IT WAS NOT AN

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ADMISSION OF GUILT.

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John: OH!

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IT WASN'T AN ADMISSION OF GUILT?

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THAT MAKES SENSE.

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$26 BILLION IS EXACTLY HOW MUCH

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YOU PAY WHEN YOU'RE NOT GUILTY

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OF ANYTHING.

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WHO AMONG US HASN'T SURRENDERED

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THE ENTIRE GDP OF ICELAND, "JUST

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CAUSE?"

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WHEN YOU PUT ALL THOSE

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SETTLEMENTS TOGETHER,

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COLLECTIVELY, THESE COMPANIES

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HAVE AGREED TO PAY OUT MORE THAN

512
00:14:26,366 --> 00:14:28,900
$50 BILLION OVER 18 YEARS TO

513
00:14:28,900 --> 00:14:30,066
STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

514
00:14:30,066 --> 00:14:30,966
AND GETTING TO THIS POINT WASN'T

515
00:14:30,966 --> 00:14:31,666
EASY-- IT INVOLVED

516
00:14:31,666 --> 00:14:33,400
CONSOLIDATING THOUSANDS OF

517
00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:33,933
LAWSUITS FILED BY VARIOUS

518
00:14:33,933 --> 00:14:35,666
GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, AND HAS

519
00:14:35,666 --> 00:14:36,433
BEEN CALLED "THE MOST

520
00:14:36,433 --> 00:14:39,733
COMPLICATED LITIGATION IN THE

521
00:14:39,733 --> 00:14:40,933
HISTORY OF COMPLEX LITIGATION."

522
00:14:41,033 --> 00:14:41,833
AND I THINK THIS GOES WITHOUT

523
00:14:41,933 --> 00:14:44,866
SAYING, BUT: BONER ALERT.

524
00:14:44,866 --> 00:14:47,266
THAT IS A BAT SIGNAL FOR THIS

525
00:14:47,266 --> 00:14:48,733
SHOW-- SOMETHING SO BORING IT'S

526
00:14:48,733 --> 00:14:50,100
GENUINELY KIND OF HOT.

527
00:14:50,100 --> 00:14:51,366
AND PEOPLE HAVE UNDERSTANDABLE

528
00:14:51,366 --> 00:14:51,833
COMPLAINTS ABOUT THESE

529
00:14:51,833 --> 00:14:53,633
SETTLEMENTS.

530
00:14:53,633 --> 00:14:56,900
FIRST, THAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS

531
00:14:56,900 --> 00:14:57,633
ARE TOO SMALL-- WHICH THEY

532
00:14:57,633 --> 00:14:58,000
ABSOLUTELY ARE.

533
00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,733
PUTTING ASIDE THE LOSS OF

534
00:15:02,733 --> 00:15:03,566
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES

535
00:15:03,566 --> 00:15:06,766
OVER THE YEARS, THE OPIOID

536
00:15:06,766 --> 00:15:08,233
CRISIS DID AN ESTIMATED $1.5

537
00:15:08,233 --> 00:15:08,800
TRILLION IN DAMAGE IN 2020

538
00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:09,000
ALONE.

539
00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,600
AND SECOND, ALMOST NONE OF THE

540
00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,233
MONEY'S GOING TO THE INDIVIDUALS

541
00:15:10,233 --> 00:15:12,866
OR FAMILIES HARMED.

542
00:15:12,866 --> 00:15:13,333
INSTEAD, IT'S GOING TO

543
00:15:13,333 --> 00:15:13,966
GOVERNMENTS-- THEORETICALLY, TO

544
00:15:14,066 --> 00:15:15,933
BE USED TO MITIGATE THE DAMAGE

545
00:15:15,933 --> 00:15:18,000
OPIOIDS ARE DOING.

546
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:18,633
AND THERE ARE BACKSTORIES BEHIND

547
00:15:18,633 --> 00:15:22,066
BOTH OF THOSE DECISIONS--

548
00:15:22,066 --> 00:15:23,800
INCLUDING THAT THE LEGAL

549
00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:29,700
STANDARDS FOR SHOWING HARM CAN

550
00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:30,533
BE EASIER FOR GOVERNMENTS TO

551
00:15:30,533 --> 00:15:31,133
MEET THAN FOR INDIVIDUALS, AND

552
00:15:31,133 --> 00:15:31,666
THAT THE MOST APPROPRIATE

553
00:15:31,666 --> 00:15:32,266
CORPORATE PUNISHMENT FOR THESE

554
00:15:32,266 --> 00:15:33,766
COMPANIES, THROWING THEM INTO

555
00:15:33,766 --> 00:15:34,300
THE FUCKING SUN, IS SADLY

556
00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:34,866
CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE TO US,

557
00:15:34,866 --> 00:15:36,300
THOUGH I AM WORKING ON A DESIGN

558
00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:36,766
FOR A CATAPULT AND I'M

559
00:15:36,766 --> 00:15:38,566
TANTALIZINGLY CLOSE.

560
00:15:38,566 --> 00:15:40,366
AND I COULD TALK MORE ABOUT ALL

561
00:15:40,366 --> 00:15:41,000
OF THAT, BUT THE TRUTH IS, THOSE

562
00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,166
DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

563
00:15:43,166 --> 00:15:45,066
THEY'RE IN THE PAST.

564
00:15:45,066 --> 00:15:45,700
AND FOR THIS STORY, I'D LIKE TO

565
00:15:45,700 --> 00:15:50,133
DO SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT,

566
00:15:50,133 --> 00:15:51,266
WHICH IS TO MAINLY TALK ABOUT

567
00:15:51,266 --> 00:15:51,866
THE FUTURE, AND THE DECISIONS

568
00:15:51,866 --> 00:15:55,133
THAT HAVEN'T BEEN MADE YET.

569
00:15:55,133 --> 00:15:55,733
BECAUSE WHILE $50 BILLION IS

570
00:15:55,733 --> 00:15:57,400
CLEARLY NOT ENOUGH TO UNDO THE

571
00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:57,933
DAMAGE HERE, IT'S ALSO NOT

572
00:15:57,933 --> 00:15:58,166
NOTHING.

573
00:15:58,166 --> 00:15:59,066
IT'S DOUBLE NASA'S BUDGET AND

574
00:15:59,066 --> 00:16:00,866
FIVE TIMES THE REVENUE OF AN NBA

575
00:16:00,866 --> 00:16:01,500
SEASON.

576
00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:05,533
AND BECAUSE OF THE TERMS OF

577
00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:08,933
THIS IS ALSO

578
00:16:08,933 --> 00:16:09,400
THE BULK OF THE MONEY

579
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,000
GOVERNMENTS ARE LIKELY TO GET

580
00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,566
OUT OF THESE COMPANIES.

581
00:16:11,566 --> 00:16:17,066
SO IN TERMS OF RESTITUTION, THIS

582
00:16:17,066 --> 00:16:17,700
IS BASICALLY ALL THE BLOOD MONEY

583
00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:18,500
WE'RE GETTING.

584
00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:19,033
MAKING IT FEEL ESPECIALLY

585
00:16:19,033 --> 00:16:20,066
IMPORTANT THAT WE SPEND IT WELL.

586
00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:22,166
BUT THERE'VE ALREADY BEEN

587
00:16:22,266 --> 00:16:22,933
TROUBLING SIGNS THAT AT LEAST IN

588
00:16:23,033 --> 00:16:24,200
SOME PLACES, THE DECISION

589
00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,533
PROCESS ON HOW TO DO SO CAN BE

590
00:16:25,533 --> 00:16:26,566
DEEPLY FLAWED.

591
00:16:26,566 --> 00:16:28,000
WHICH IS PARTICULARLY

592
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,766
FRUSTRATING FOR THOSE WHO'VE

593
00:16:28,766 --> 00:16:30,333
LOST LOVED ONES IN THIS CRISIS,

594
00:16:30,333 --> 00:16:32,066
LIKE THIS WOMAN.

595
00:16:32,066 --> 00:16:33,366
A DOZEN NEW YORK PARENTS

596
00:16:33,366 --> 00:16:36,833
DESCENDED ON ALBANY THIS WEEK TO

597
00:16:36,833 --> 00:16:37,833
COMPLAIN THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET

598
00:16:37,833 --> 00:16:40,033
IS NOT BEING OPEN ABOUT WHERE

599
00:16:40,033 --> 00:16:40,466
THE MONEY IS GOING.

600
00:16:40,466 --> 00:16:41,300
ONE LONG ISLAND MOM, LINDA

601
00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:42,733
VENTURA, CARRIED HER SON'S ASHES

602
00:16:42,733 --> 00:16:45,233
IN A TUPPERWARE CONTAINER.

603
00:16:45,233 --> 00:16:45,966
I WILL REMAIN A PAIN IN THE

604
00:16:45,966 --> 00:16:47,366
[BLEEP] IN NEW YORK STATE

605
00:16:47,366 --> 00:16:49,700
BECAUSE NO ONE SHOULD JOIN THE

606
00:16:49,700 --> 00:16:51,700
CLUB THAT THESE PARENTS ARE HERE

607
00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:53,733
FOR.

608
00:16:53,833 --> 00:16:54,800
John: THAT'S A BRAVE THING

609
00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:58,000
FOR THAT WOMAN TO DO, AND A

610
00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:58,900
POWERFUL MESSAGE TO SEND.

611
00:16:58,900 --> 00:16:59,533
"MY NAME IS LINDA, I'M GOING TO

612
00:16:59,533 --> 00:17:01,900
BE A PAIN IN THE ASS FOR YOU,

613
00:17:01,900 --> 00:17:02,533
AND IN CASE YOU SONS OF BITCHES

614
00:17:02,533 --> 00:17:05,766
FORGOT WHY WE'RE HERE, I BROUGHT

615
00:17:05,766 --> 00:17:07,366
ALONG A TUPPERWARE OF MY SON."

616
00:17:07,366 --> 00:17:08,000
AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS WORRYING,

617
00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:08,633
BUT THE THING IS, BECAUSE WE'RE

618
00:17:08,633 --> 00:17:11,000
ONLY THREE YEARS IN TO WHAT'LL

619
00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000
BE 18 YEARS' WORTH OF PAYMENTS,

620
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:13,800
THERE'S STILL TIME FOR US TO

621
00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,000
CORRECT COURSE.

622
00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,766
BUT THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TALK

623
00:17:15,766 --> 00:17:18,866
ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW.

624
00:17:18,866 --> 00:17:19,466
SO TONIGHT, LET'S LOOK AT THE

625
00:17:19,466 --> 00:17:23,633
OPIOID SETTLEMENTS.

626
00:17:23,633 --> 00:17:24,566
AND LET'S START WITH THE FACT

627
00:17:24,566 --> 00:17:28,300
THAT THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME

628
00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:28,933
GOVERNMENTS HAVE RECEIVED A HUGE

629
00:17:29,033 --> 00:17:30,333
PILE OF MONEY AFTER COMPANIES

630
00:17:30,333 --> 00:17:30,933
CAUSED A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.

631
00:17:30,933 --> 00:17:31,533
BACK IN THE 1990S, THERE WAS A

632
00:17:31,533 --> 00:17:32,166
SIMILAR WAVE OF LAWSUITS AGAINST

633
00:17:32,166 --> 00:17:33,766
BIG TOBACCO, THAT ENDED WITH A

634
00:17:33,766 --> 00:17:34,566
SETTLEMENT OF AN ESTIMATED $246

635
00:17:34,566 --> 00:17:35,400
BILLION.

636
00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,900
AND AT THE TIME, EVERYONE TOOK A

637
00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:37,966
VICTORY LAP.

638
00:17:37,966 --> 00:17:40,366
FINALLY WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN

639
00:17:40,366 --> 00:17:40,966
HOLD THAT THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY

640
00:17:40,966 --> 00:17:43,900
ACCOUNTABLE FOR DECADES OF

641
00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:48,133
MARKETING THEIR PRODUCTS AND

642
00:17:48,133 --> 00:17:49,066
SELLING THEIR PRODUCTS TO OUR

643
00:17:49,066 --> 00:17:49,266
KIDS.

644
00:17:49,266 --> 00:17:49,833
THE STATES WILL RECEIVE THE

645
00:17:49,833 --> 00:17:51,200
LARGEST FINANCIAL RECOVERY IN

646
00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,433
HISTORY.

647
00:17:52,433 --> 00:17:53,033
WE'VE ARRIVED AT OUR FINAL

648
00:17:53,033 --> 00:17:55,100
DESTINATION AND THAT'S THE

649
00:17:55,100 --> 00:17:56,066
DESTINATION OF TOBACCO JUSTICE.

650
00:17:56,066 --> 00:18:00,866
John: OH, TOBACCO JUSTICE!

651
00:18:00,966 --> 00:18:01,633
AND IT DID SOUND GREAT!

652
00:18:01,733 --> 00:18:06,566
NOT ONLY WERE TOBACCO COMPANIES

653
00:18:06,566 --> 00:18:07,300
PAYING A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY,

654
00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:12,800
THE SETTLEMENT ALSO IMPOSED

655
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:13,533
RESTRICTIONS ON CIGARETTE

656
00:18:13,533 --> 00:18:14,133
ADVERTISING, INCLUDING BANNING

657
00:18:14,133 --> 00:18:15,000
CARTOON CHARACTERS LIKE JOE

658
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:15,200
CAMEL.

659
00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,000
ALTHOUGH PERSONALLY, I NEVER

660
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:16,533
FOUND A SEXY CAMEL-- THAT

661
00:18:16,533 --> 00:18:17,866
PERSUASIVE, IT SEEMED RIDICULOUS

662
00:18:17,866 --> 00:18:24,733
TO THINK THAT-- OH MY GOD, HOW

663
00:18:24,733 --> 00:18:25,800
FUCK DID YOU JUST DO THAT?

664
00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,600
BUT INTERESTINGLY, THAT

665
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,166
SETTLEMENT IS NOW SEEN AS A

666
00:18:27,166 --> 00:18:27,800
PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHAT NOT TO DO.

667
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,700
BECAUSE AT THE TIME, THE

668
00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:29,633
EXPECTATION WAS THAT A

669
00:18:29,633 --> 00:18:30,700
SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE

670
00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:32,200
FUNDING WOULD BE SET ASIDE TO

671
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:32,633
REDUCE TOBACCO USE.

672
00:18:32,633 --> 00:18:34,133
BUT THERE WERE NO BINDING

673
00:18:34,233 --> 00:18:36,066
REQUIREMENTS ON HOW THE MONEY

674
00:18:36,166 --> 00:18:36,833
SHOULD BE SPENT.

675
00:18:36,833 --> 00:18:38,966
SO IN PRACTICE, MOST STATES JUST

676
00:18:38,966 --> 00:18:40,133
USED IT AS A SLUSH FUND, TO

677
00:18:40,133 --> 00:18:40,800
COVER BUDGET SHORTFALLS,

678
00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,033
SUBSIDIZE TAX CUTS, AND SUPPORT

679
00:18:45,033 --> 00:18:45,600
GENERAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

680
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,133
IN FACT, WITHIN JUST A FEW

681
00:18:46,133 --> 00:18:46,733
YEARS, STORIES LIKE THIS WERE

682
00:18:46,733 --> 00:18:48,533
STARTING TO HIT THE NEWS.

683
00:18:48,533 --> 00:18:49,633
HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA, THE

684
00:18:49,633 --> 00:18:50,900
NATION'S NUMBER ONE TOBACCO

685
00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:52,133
PRODUCER, NOT A PENNY OF THE

686
00:18:52,133 --> 00:18:56,200
STATE'S $4.6 BILLION SHARE HAS

687
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,066
BEEN SPENT ON ANTI-SMOKING

688
00:18:57,066 --> 00:18:58,033
PROGRAMS.

689
00:18:58,033 --> 00:19:00,966
SO, WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?

690
00:19:00,966 --> 00:19:01,833
$200,000 TO IMPROVE THIS HORSE

691
00:19:01,833 --> 00:19:06,300
PARK, $15,000 FOR THIS TOBACCO

692
00:19:06,300 --> 00:19:08,900
MUSEUM TO HELP PRODUCE A TOBACCO

693
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,866
HISTORY VIDEO, AND $400,000

694
00:19:10,866 --> 00:19:13,400
TOWARD THE ENGINEERING OF THIS

695
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,400
PLANT THAT WILL ONE DAY PROCESS

696
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,366
TOBACCO.

697
00:19:17,366 --> 00:19:19,866
John: YEAH, THAT'S NOT GREAT.

698
00:19:19,866 --> 00:19:20,933
AND I REALIZE THAT "SPENDING

699
00:19:20,933 --> 00:19:21,833
OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY IN A DUMB

700
00:19:21,833 --> 00:19:22,966
WAY" COULD WELL BE MY EXACT JOB

701
00:19:22,966 --> 00:19:26,033
DESCRIPTION.

702
00:19:26,033 --> 00:19:26,833
BUT EVEN I KNOW BUILDING A

703
00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:27,833
TOBACCO PROCESSING PLANT WITH

704
00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:32,366
TOBACCO SETTLEMENT MONEY IS A

705
00:19:32,366 --> 00:19:32,700
VERY BAD IDEA.

706
00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:33,433
AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY

707
00:19:33,433 --> 00:19:33,800
CAUTIONARY TALE.

708
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:34,366
THERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE FROM

709
00:19:34,366 --> 00:19:36,200
EARLY IN THIS CURRENT WAVE OF

710
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,300
OPIOID SETTLEMENTS, WITH THE ONE

711
00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:40,433
BETWEEN STATE GOVERNMENTS AND

712
00:19:40,533 --> 00:19:40,866
McKINSEY.

713
00:19:40,866 --> 00:19:41,433
IN NEW YORK STATE, ONCE THAT

714
00:19:41,533 --> 00:19:42,933
MONEY STARTED ROLLING IN, SOME

715
00:19:42,933 --> 00:19:44,366
PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATES WERE

716
00:19:44,366 --> 00:19:45,833
SHOCKED AT WHERE MOST OF IT

717
00:19:45,833 --> 00:19:48,933
SEEMED TO BE GOING.

718
00:19:48,933 --> 00:19:49,566
$21 MILLION WENT INTO

719
00:19:49,566 --> 00:19:50,900
NEW YORK STATE'S GENERAL FUND TO

720
00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:53,633
BUILD BRIDGES AND TUNNELS AND TO

721
00:19:53,633 --> 00:19:55,733
FILL BUDGET CAPS, AND THAT'S

722
00:19:55,733 --> 00:19:57,066
ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE.

723
00:19:57,066 --> 00:19:57,666
I WILL BE DAMNED IF I SEE A

724
00:19:57,666 --> 00:20:00,300
DOLLAR GO TO FIXING A POTHOLE.

725
00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:01,766
DO WE NEED POTHOLES FIXED?

726
00:20:01,766 --> 00:20:03,233
ABSOLUTELY.

727
00:20:03,233 --> 00:20:04,133
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS MONEY IS

728
00:20:04,133 --> 00:20:04,533
ABOUT.

729
00:20:04,533 --> 00:20:05,366
John: YEAH!

730
00:20:05,366 --> 00:20:08,200
HE'S RIGHT.

731
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,233
HE'S ALSO PERHAPS THE MOST

732
00:20:09,233 --> 00:20:10,466
NEW YORK GUY TO EVER EXIST.

733
00:20:10,466 --> 00:20:12,266
A MAN NAMED ANTHONY RIZZUTO,

734
00:20:12,266 --> 00:20:13,700
RANTING ABOUT POTHOLES ON BEHALF

735
00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:14,600
OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED

736
00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:19,566
"FIST."

737
00:20:19,566 --> 00:20:20,700
A MAN LIKE THAT ISN'T BORN,

738
00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:21,633
SOMEONE IN MASSAPEQUA RUBBED A

739
00:20:21,633 --> 00:20:22,433
MEATBALL PARM AND HE APPEARED IN

740
00:20:22,433 --> 00:20:26,466
A PUFF OF SMOKE LIKE A GENIE.

741
00:20:26,466 --> 00:20:27,066
NOW, THANKFULLY, THIS CURRENT

742
00:20:27,066 --> 00:20:29,933
$50 BILLION IN SETTLEMENT MONEY

743
00:20:29,933 --> 00:20:31,366
HAS RULES ON HOW IT CAN BE

744
00:20:31,366 --> 00:20:32,066
SPENT.

745
00:20:32,066 --> 00:20:33,300
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE BOTH VERY

746
00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:34,166
COMPLICATED, AND NOT NEARLY

747
00:20:34,166 --> 00:20:36,000
STRONG ENOUGH.

748
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:36,666
FOR INSTANCE, MOST OF THE

749
00:20:36,666 --> 00:20:37,800
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS SAY THAT

750
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,900
AT LEAST 85% OF THE MONEY HAS TO

751
00:20:38,900 --> 00:20:40,366
BE USED FOR "OPIOID

752
00:20:40,366 --> 00:20:41,800
REMEDIATION."

753
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,166
WHICH SOUNDS GOOD!

754
00:20:43,166 --> 00:20:44,333
BUT THAT TERM IS BROADLY

755
00:20:44,333 --> 00:20:46,066
DEFINED.

756
00:20:46,066 --> 00:20:46,666
AND WHILE THEY INCLUDE A LONG

757
00:20:46,666 --> 00:20:49,900
LIST OF WHAT COULD FIT INTO THAT

758
00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:50,700
CATEGORY, THEY ALSO NOTE THAT

759
00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:51,400
THE LIST IS "NONEXHAUSTIVE,"

760
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,600
MEANING GOVERNMENTS COULD

761
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,200
ATTEMPT TO JUSTIFY ALMOST ANY

762
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,300
PURCHASE.

763
00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:56,400
AS FOR THE REMAINING 15%, THAT'S

764
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,400
A FREE-FOR-ALL.

765
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,800
MAKING IT BASICALLY A

766
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,000
MULTI-BILLION-DOLLAR SLUSH FUND.

767
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,866
BUT ALSO, AS THIS LEGAL EXPERT

768
00:21:01,866 --> 00:21:03,566
WHO'S BEEN CLOSELY TRACKING THE

769
00:21:03,566 --> 00:21:04,166
SETTLEMENTS POINTS OUT, THERE

770
00:21:04,166 --> 00:21:07,000
ARE WORRYINGLY FEW RULES

771
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,666
REQUIRING STATE OR LOCAL

772
00:21:08,666 --> 00:21:09,866
GOVERNMENTS TO REPORT HOW THEY

773
00:21:09,866 --> 00:21:10,566
SPEND ANY OF THE MONEY.

774
00:21:10,566 --> 00:21:14,066
PUBLIC REPORTING OF OPIOID

775
00:21:14,066 --> 00:21:14,700
SETTLEMENT EXPENDITURES IS NOT

776
00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:16,166
REQUIRED BY THE SETTLEMENT

777
00:21:16,166 --> 00:21:16,766
AGREEMENTS THEMSELVES.

778
00:21:16,766 --> 00:21:18,800
SO WE'RE IN WILD, WILD WEST

779
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,266
TERRITORY.

780
00:21:21,366 --> 00:21:21,866
MINHEE FOUND ONLY 16 STATES

781
00:21:21,966 --> 00:21:22,933
PROMISED TO PUBLICLY REPORT 100%

782
00:21:23,033 --> 00:21:25,366
OF THEIR OPIOID SETTLEMENT

783
00:21:25,366 --> 00:21:27,400
SPENDING.

784
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,966
ANOTHER 16 HAVE NOT AGREED TO

785
00:21:28,966 --> 00:21:31,566
REPORT ANY SPENDING PUBLICLY AT

786
00:21:31,566 --> 00:21:32,666
ALL, AND THE REST ONLY A PORTION

787
00:21:32,666 --> 00:21:36,733
OF IT.

788
00:21:36,733 --> 00:21:37,366
John: OKAY, FIRST, SHOUT OUT

789
00:21:37,366 --> 00:21:38,000
TO THE STATES PROMISING TO

790
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:38,600
REPORT ON HOW THEY SPEND "SOME

791
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,133
OF THE MONEY."

792
00:21:40,133 --> 00:21:42,000
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S MUCH BETTER

793
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,200
THAN NOT REPORTING IT AT ALL.

794
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:43,800
"DON'T WORRY, WE'LL REPORT ON

795
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,233
EVERY DOLLAR THAT DOESN'T GO

796
00:21:45,233 --> 00:21:48,066
INTO OUR MYSTERIOUS MONEY HOLE."

797
00:21:48,066 --> 00:21:49,300
AND I SHOULD SAY, A FEW MORE

798
00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:49,866
STATES HAVE SINCE AGREED TO

799
00:21:49,866 --> 00:21:52,200
DISCLOSE AT LEAST SOME OF THEIR

800
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,433
SPENDING, SO IT'S NOW ONLY THESE

801
00:21:53,533 --> 00:21:54,666
7 WHO ARE DOING ZERO PUBLIC

802
00:21:54,766 --> 00:21:56,066
REPORTING.

803
00:21:56,166 --> 00:21:57,066
BUT THE POINT REMAINS: THERE CAN

804
00:21:57,066 --> 00:21:59,166
BE SHOCKINGLY LITTLE

805
00:21:59,166 --> 00:22:01,033
TRANSPARENCY ABOUT WHERE THIS

806
00:22:01,033 --> 00:22:01,633
MONEY IS GOING-- OR, IN SOME

807
00:22:01,633 --> 00:22:02,133
CASES, NOT GOING.

808
00:22:02,133 --> 00:22:04,200
BECAUSE DESPITE THE FACT WE'RE

809
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:04,766
THREE YEARS IN, SOME STATES

810
00:22:04,766 --> 00:22:06,266
HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED SPENDING.

811
00:22:06,266 --> 00:22:09,300
FOR INSTANCE, IOWA'S STATE

812
00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:10,000
LEGISLATURE RECENTLY COULDN'T

813
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,300
COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON HOW TO

814
00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:13,933
SPEND ITS SETTLEMENT MONEY, AND

815
00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:14,533
THEN SIMPLY ADJOURNED FOR THE

816
00:22:14,533 --> 00:22:17,833
YEAR, LEAVING MORE THAN $25

817
00:22:17,833 --> 00:22:18,966
MILLION UNSPENT UNTIL 2025.

818
00:22:18,966 --> 00:22:21,533
BUT THAT'S FINE.

819
00:22:21,533 --> 00:22:22,166
IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS A LIFE AND

820
00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:23,233
DEATH SITUATION OR ANYTHING.

821
00:22:23,233 --> 00:22:25,233
MEANWHILE, OTHER STATES SEEM TO

822
00:22:25,233 --> 00:22:26,466
BE ENGAGING IN ACCOUNTING TRICKS

823
00:22:26,466 --> 00:22:29,066
TO GET AROUND RESTRICTIONS.

824
00:22:29,066 --> 00:22:29,700
NEW YORK'S GOVERNOR KATHY HOCHUL

825
00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:32,466
PROPOSED CUTTING THE BUDGET OF

826
00:22:32,466 --> 00:22:33,100
THE STATE'S OFFICE OF ADDICTION

827
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:34,033
SERVICES AND SUPPORTS BY MORE

828
00:22:34,033 --> 00:22:36,866
THAN 13%.

829
00:22:36,866 --> 00:22:37,466
AND IT'S BELIEVED HER PLAN WAS

830
00:22:37,466 --> 00:22:38,533
TO THEN REPLACE THAT FUNDING

831
00:22:38,533 --> 00:22:41,833
WITH MONEY FROM THE OPIOID

832
00:22:41,833 --> 00:22:42,433
SETTLEMENT.

833
00:22:42,433 --> 00:22:44,700
BUT THAT'S NOT INCREASING

834
00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:45,066
SERVICES, IS IT?

835
00:22:45,066 --> 00:22:45,866
IT'S JUST MOVING THE MONEY

836
00:22:45,866 --> 00:22:48,233
AROUND SO YOU CAN USE IT FOR

837
00:22:48,233 --> 00:22:52,800
WHATEVER YOU LIKE.

838
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,600
WHICH IS INFURIATING.

839
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,033
IT TURNS OUT IT'S A LOT LESS

840
00:22:56,033 --> 00:22:57,566
ENTERTAINING TO WATCH SOMEONE

841
00:22:57,566 --> 00:22:58,433
TRY TO LAUNDER MILLIONS IN DRUG

842
00:22:58,433 --> 00:22:58,966
MONEY WHEN IT'S NOT BRYAN

843
00:22:58,966 --> 00:22:59,366
CRANSTON DOING IT.

844
00:22:59,366 --> 00:22:59,966
AND WHILE SO FAR, I'VE MAINLY

845
00:23:00,066 --> 00:23:00,600
TALKED ABOUT STATES, IT'S WORTH

846
00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:01,800
KNOWING: MORE THAN HALF THIS

847
00:23:01,900 --> 00:23:04,000
MONEY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO LOCAL

848
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,300
GOVERNMENTS.

849
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:04,933
IT'S ACTUALLY BEING DIVIDED UP

850
00:23:04,933 --> 00:23:06,733
AMONG CITIES AND COUNTIES, AS

851
00:23:06,733 --> 00:23:09,066
THIS LOCAL NEWS REPORT EXPLAINS,

852
00:23:09,066 --> 00:23:12,033
WITH SOME TOP-TIER GRAPHICS.

853
00:23:12,033 --> 00:23:12,566
EVERY SINGLE COUNTY IN

854
00:23:12,566 --> 00:23:13,833
MICHIGAN WILL GET SOME MONEY,

855
00:23:13,833 --> 00:23:14,433
BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW

856
00:23:14,433 --> 00:23:17,900
MUCH.

857
00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:19,366
THE SMALLEST AMOUNT JUST $173 IN

858
00:23:19,366 --> 00:23:21,766
UNION CHARTER TOWNSHIP.

859
00:23:21,766 --> 00:23:22,366
THE BIGGEST AMOUNT, NEARLY $70

860
00:23:22,366 --> 00:23:25,900
MILLION IN WAYNE COUNTY.

861
00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:29,366
HERE IN WEST MICHIGAN, KENT

862
00:23:29,366 --> 00:23:30,466
COUNTY IS GETTING MORE THAN $18

863
00:23:30,466 --> 00:23:30,700
MILLION.

864
00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:31,266
SO, HOW ARE THEY ACTUALLY

865
00:23:31,266 --> 00:23:32,333
GOING TO USE THAT MONEY?

866
00:23:32,333 --> 00:23:32,966
ALL OF THE EXPERTS I SPOKE WITH

867
00:23:32,966 --> 00:23:34,300
SAID IT NEEDS TO BE POURED INTO

868
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,566
FOUR DIFFERENT BUCKETS:

869
00:23:35,666 --> 00:23:36,900
PREVENTION, HARM REDUCTION,

870
00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:38,666
TREATMENT, AND RECOVERY.

871
00:23:38,666 --> 00:23:42,600
John: OKAY, I KNOW SHE'S

872
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,433
TELLING US THE MONEY SHOULD BE

873
00:23:43,433 --> 00:23:43,966
GOING TO THINGS LIKE HARM

874
00:23:43,966 --> 00:23:46,133
REDUCTION AND RECOVERY THERE.

875
00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:46,733
BUT IT KINDA FEELS LIKE IT'S

876
00:23:46,733 --> 00:23:47,500
GOING TO LOCAL NEWS GRAPHICS

877
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:49,300
DEPARTMENTS.

878
00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:50,733
BECAUSE THAT'S EXCELLENT.

879
00:23:50,733 --> 00:23:51,433
BUT SHE'S RIGHT THAT EXPERTS

880
00:23:51,433 --> 00:23:52,900
GENERALLY AGREE THAT THERE ARE

881
00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:56,900
GOOD WAYS TO SPEND THIS MONEY.

882
00:23:56,900 --> 00:23:57,533
FOR INSTANCE, WE COULD HIRE AND

883
00:23:57,533 --> 00:23:58,133
TRAIN MORE COUNSELORS AND PEER

884
00:23:58,133 --> 00:23:59,200
SPECIALISTS TO WORK WITH THOSE

885
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,300
STRUGGLING WITH ADDICTION.

886
00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:03,266
WE COULD ALSO INCREASE ACCESS TO

887
00:24:03,266 --> 00:24:04,500
MEDICATION-ASSISTED TREATMENT,

888
00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:05,366
USING DRUGS LIKE METHADONE,

889
00:24:05,366 --> 00:24:07,733
BUPRENORPHINE, AND NALTREXONE.

890
00:24:07,833 --> 00:24:08,300
WE COULD ALSO BETTER FUND

891
00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:09,733
INTERVENTIONS FOR THOSE

892
00:24:09,733 --> 00:24:10,633
CONTINUING TO USE DRUGS-- FROM

893
00:24:10,633 --> 00:24:11,366
OVERDOSE PREVENTION CENTERS,

894
00:24:11,366 --> 00:24:12,700
WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED ON THIS

895
00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:14,700
SHOW BEFORE, TO DISTRIBUTING

896
00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:16,533
NALOXONE, DETECTING FENTANYL

897
00:24:16,533 --> 00:24:17,666
THROUGH TESTING STRIPS,

898
00:24:17,666 --> 00:24:19,066
PROVIDING STERILE SYRINGES, AND

899
00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:21,066
CONNECTING PEOPLE TO ADEQUATE

900
00:24:21,066 --> 00:24:21,300
HOUSING.

901
00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:24,866
ALL OF THAT IS A GREAT USE OF

902
00:24:24,866 --> 00:24:25,266
SETTLEMENT MONEY.

903
00:24:25,266 --> 00:24:25,900
BUT IT'S SOMETIMES BEEN HARD FOR

904
00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:26,500
ADVOCATES TO GET THAT MESSAGE

905
00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:28,900
ACROSS, GIVEN LOCAL LEADERS

906
00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:29,466
OFTEN SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE

907
00:24:29,466 --> 00:24:31,633
EXPERIENCE WITH ADDICTION OR

908
00:24:31,633 --> 00:24:33,200
HEALTH POLICY TO GUIDE THEM IN

909
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,466
USING THE MONEY WELL.

910
00:24:34,466 --> 00:24:37,800
AND THAT CAN BE FRUSTRATING FOR

911
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:38,600
THOSE WITH PERSONAL EXPERIENCE

912
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,400
OF THIS CRISIS.

913
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,666
PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS ARE NOT

914
00:24:41,766 --> 00:24:44,166
BEING INCLUDED AT ALL.

915
00:24:44,166 --> 00:24:44,700
TRISH PERRY IS A COUNTY

916
00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:46,100
COORDINATOR FOR OHIOCAN, A

917
00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:47,000
NONPROFIT STARTED BY FAMILY

918
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,466
MEMBERS OF INDIVIDUALS BATTLING

919
00:24:49,466 --> 00:24:50,600
ADDICTION.

920
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,700
EVERY SATURDAY, THEY HAND OUT

921
00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:57,300
FOOD, CLOTHING, AND THE

922
00:24:57,300 --> 00:24:58,866
OVERDOSE-REVERSAL DRUG NARCAN IN

923
00:24:58,866 --> 00:24:59,866
NEWARK, OHIO.

924
00:24:59,866 --> 00:25:01,266
FENTANYL TESTING STRIPS?

925
00:25:01,266 --> 00:25:03,966
BUT PERRY SAYS HER

926
00:25:03,966 --> 00:25:05,200
ORGANIZATION HAS SO FAR

927
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,800
ENCOUNTERED STIGMA AND HURDLES

928
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,733
WHEN APPLYING FOR FUNDING FROM

929
00:25:06,733 --> 00:25:09,766
OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY THAT'S

930
00:25:09,766 --> 00:25:10,600
EARMARKED FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

931
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,433
IF YOU DON'T SUPPLY PEOPLE

932
00:25:11,433 --> 00:25:12,300
WITH CLEAN USE SUPPLIES AND

933
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:12,900
FENTANYL TESTING STRIPS, THEY

934
00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:15,833
DIE.

935
00:25:15,833 --> 00:25:16,966
AND IF THEY DIE, THEY NEVER GET

936
00:25:16,966 --> 00:25:21,300
TO BE A PRODUCTIVE CITIZEN IN

937
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:23,366
THE COMMUNITY.

938
00:25:23,366 --> 00:25:23,966
John: THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD

939
00:25:23,966 --> 00:25:24,733
USE OF SETTLEMENT MONEY.

940
00:25:24,733 --> 00:25:25,833
ALL OTHER OPTIONS TEND TO PALE

941
00:25:25,833 --> 00:25:27,966
IN COMPARISON TO "IF PEOPLE

942
00:25:27,966 --> 00:25:32,700
DON'T GET THE STUFF I'M HANDING

943
00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:33,700
OUT RIGHT NOW THEY'LL FUCKING

944
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:33,900
DIE."

945
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:34,966
AND WHEN YOU SEE THAT, THE IDEA

946
00:25:34,966 --> 00:25:36,066
OF USING THE MONEY TO FILL

947
00:25:36,066 --> 00:25:36,800
POTHOLES STARTS TO SOUND LIKE

948
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,833
SECOND DEGREE MURDER, AS THIS

949
00:25:37,833 --> 00:25:39,633
MAGNIFICENT NEW YORK STEREOTYPE

950
00:25:39,633 --> 00:25:41,333
WILL UNDOUBTEDLY TELL YOU.

951
00:25:41,333 --> 00:25:41,900
AND I WILL SAY-- THERE ARE

952
00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:43,333
PLACES THAT ARE SPENDING THIS

953
00:25:43,333 --> 00:25:44,433
MONEY WISELY, ON PREVENTION,

954
00:25:44,433 --> 00:25:45,633
HARM REDUCTION, AND THE OTHER

955
00:25:45,633 --> 00:25:47,733
THINGS ON THOSE CGI BUCKETS.

956
00:25:47,833 --> 00:25:50,300
BUT PLACES WITHOUT THE EXPERTISE

957
00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:51,966
OR GOOD GUIDANCE CAN BECOME EASY

958
00:25:51,966 --> 00:25:52,866
TARGETS FOR COMPANIES LOOKING TO

959
00:25:52,866 --> 00:25:55,100
TAKE THIS SUDDEN SURGE OF MONEY

960
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:58,566
OFF THEIR HANDS.

961
00:25:58,566 --> 00:25:59,133
COMPANIES THAT MAKE PILL

962
00:25:59,133 --> 00:26:00,333
DISPOSAL PRODUCTS, SAFE PILL

963
00:26:00,333 --> 00:26:01,900
STORAGE, OR EVEN PRODUCTS FOR

964
00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:02,833
LAW ENFORCEMENT LIKE SPEED RAY

965
00:26:02,833 --> 00:26:05,100
GUNS ARE PUSHING MUNICIPALITIES

966
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:05,833
TO USE THEIR SETTLEMENT FUNDS

967
00:26:05,833 --> 00:26:07,833
FOR THEIR PRODUCTS AND EVEN HAVE

968
00:26:07,833 --> 00:26:09,533
TABS ON THEIR WEBSITES TO TRACK

969
00:26:09,533 --> 00:26:15,766
YOUR STATE SETTLEMENT MONEY.

970
00:26:15,766 --> 00:26:16,666
John: THAT'S TRUE.

971
00:26:16,666 --> 00:26:17,233
SALESMEN ARE GOING TO SMALL

972
00:26:17,233 --> 00:26:17,833
TOWNS, TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM

973
00:26:17,833 --> 00:26:18,466
THEY'RE SELLING THE CURE FOR THE

974
00:26:18,466 --> 00:26:19,066
OPIOID CRISIS.

975
00:26:19,066 --> 00:26:20,400
IT'S LIKE AN INSANELY DARK

976
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,366
REMAKE OF THE MUSIC MAN.

977
00:26:22,466 --> 00:26:23,000
"THERE'S TROUBLE, FOLKS, RIGHT

978
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000
HERE IN RIVER CITY, TROUBLE WITH

979
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,266
A CAPITAL "T" AND THAT RHYMES

980
00:26:26,266 --> 00:26:27,666
WITH "P" AND THAT STANDS FOR

981
00:26:27,666 --> 00:26:28,666
PAINKILLERS.

982
00:26:28,666 --> 00:26:31,900
THOUSANDS ARE DEAD."

983
00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:33,300
ONE OF THOSE PRODUCTS IS

984
00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:33,966
"DETERRA" DRUG DISPOSAL POUCHES,

985
00:26:33,966 --> 00:26:35,133
WHICH APPARENTLY CONTAIN

986
00:26:35,133 --> 00:26:37,300
ACTIVATED CARBON, AND COST ABOUT

987
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:38,700
$4 EACH.

988
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:39,633
THE WAY THEY WORK IS, CUSTOMERS

989
00:26:39,633 --> 00:26:42,466
PLACE THEIR UNUSED MEDICATIONS

990
00:26:42,466 --> 00:26:45,466
IN A DETERRA POUCH AND ADD

991
00:26:45,466 --> 00:26:51,466
WATER, AND IF YOU'RE THINKING -

992
00:26:51,466 --> 00:26:52,100
"WAIT, SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY JUST

993
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:53,333
THROWING AWAY PILLS IN WATER?

994
00:26:53,333 --> 00:26:55,600
CAN'T YOU ALREADY DO THAT WITH

995
00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:57,966
"A TOILET?"

996
00:26:57,966 --> 00:26:59,100
YEAH, YOU CAN.

997
00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:01,000
THIS MIGHT BE NEWS TO PEOPLE,

998
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,600
BUT UNLIKE MOST DRUGS, THE FDA

999
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,433
LISTS OPIOIDS ON ITS FLUSH LIST

1000
00:27:02,433 --> 00:27:04,666
FOR DISPOSAL.

1001
00:27:04,666 --> 00:27:05,666
WHICH IS BAD NEWS FOR DETERRA,

1002
00:27:05,666 --> 00:27:06,933
BUT ANOTHER HUGE WIN FOR THE

1003
00:27:06,933 --> 00:27:08,100
TOILET, THE GREATEST INVENTION

1004
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:15,166
IN HUMAN HISTORY.

1005
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,300
THANK YOU, TOILET.

1006
00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:16,866
BUT DESPITE THAT, DETERRA'S

1007
00:27:16,866 --> 00:27:18,000
MANUFACTURER HAS PROMOTED IT

1008
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,033
HEAVILY TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS,

1009
00:27:20,033 --> 00:27:21,200
EVEN BUYING GOOGLE ADS TO GET

1010
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,100
THEIR ATTENTION.

1011
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:23,333
BECAUSE WHEN YOU SEARCH FOR

1012
00:27:23,333 --> 00:27:25,133
OPIOID SETTLEMENT-RELATED TERMS,

1013
00:27:25,133 --> 00:27:26,000
YOU CAN GET SERVED SPONSORED ADS

1014
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,266
FOR DETERRA WITH HEADERS LIKE

1015
00:27:28,366 --> 00:27:29,533
"HOW TO USE OPIOID SETTLEMENTS -

1016
00:27:29,533 --> 00:27:31,100
GET THE DETERRA GRANT GUIDE."

1017
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:32,733
AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE WORKED, AS

1018
00:27:32,733 --> 00:27:39,800
IT'S WON A BUNCH OF CONTRACTS,

1019
00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:40,900
INCLUDING A MILLION-DOLLAR ORDER

1020
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:41,666
FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IN

1021
00:27:41,666 --> 00:27:42,500
DELAWARE COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA.

1022
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:43,866
WHICH SEEMS LIKE A HUGE WASTE,

1023
00:27:43,866 --> 00:27:44,400
ASSUMING THAT COUNTY HAS

1024
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:51,466
TOILETS.

1025
00:28:00,933 --> 00:28:01,633
THEN SPEND MONEY ON THAT!

1026
00:28:01,733 --> 00:28:02,200
STOP SHITTING IN BUCKETS!

1027
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,733
SHIT IN ONE OF THESE!

1028
00:28:04,733 --> 00:28:05,333
BUT MOST UPSETTINGLY, IN MANY

1029
00:28:05,333 --> 00:28:05,833
PLACES THE MONEY'S GOING

1030
00:28:05,833 --> 00:28:06,400
SOMEWHERE THAT COULD DO THE

1031
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,066
EXACT OPPOSITE OF REDUCING HARM:

1032
00:28:07,066 --> 00:28:07,366
THE POLICE.

1033
00:28:07,366 --> 00:28:07,933
AND THAT'S DESPITE EXPLICIT

1034
00:28:07,933 --> 00:28:08,400
WARNINGS AGAINST THAT.

1035
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,233
LAST YEAR, 130 PUBLIC HEALTH

1036
00:28:09,233 --> 00:28:11,166
ADVOCATES ISSUED AN OPEN LETTER

1037
00:28:11,166 --> 00:28:12,333
TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, SAYING,

1038
00:28:12,333 --> 00:28:13,666
"NO OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY

1039
00:28:13,666 --> 00:28:14,900
SHOULD BE SPENT ON LAW

1040
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:15,766
ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL, OVERTIME,

1041
00:28:15,766 --> 00:28:17,033
OR EQUIPMENT."

1042
00:28:17,033 --> 00:28:19,766
WHICH MAKES SENSE.

1043
00:28:19,766 --> 00:28:21,633
BECAUSE IF WE LEARNED ONE THING

1044
00:28:21,633 --> 00:28:22,866
FROM THE "WAR ON DRUGS," IT'S

1045
00:28:22,866 --> 00:28:25,200
THAT NANCY REAGAN AND MR. T

1046
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,600
PRODUCED THE SINGLE STRANGEST

1047
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,266
PHOTO IN THE HISTORY OF CAMERAS.

1048
00:28:31,266 --> 00:28:32,033
BUT IF WE LEARNED TWO THINGS,

1049
00:28:32,033 --> 00:28:32,666
IT'S THAT POLICING DRUG USE DOES

1050
00:28:32,666 --> 00:28:33,466
NOT MAKE IT STOP.

1051
00:28:33,466 --> 00:28:34,100
AND YET, IN SOME PLACES, SENDING

1052
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:34,866
OPIOID MONEY TO POLICE IS

1053
00:28:34,966 --> 00:28:36,800
ACTUALLY MANDATORY.

1054
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,833
LOUISIANA DECIDED TO ALLOCATE

1055
00:28:37,833 --> 00:28:39,766
20% OF ITS FUNDS DIRECTLY TO

1056
00:28:39,766 --> 00:28:42,266
SHERIFFS, WITH NO OBLIGATION FOR

1057
00:28:42,266 --> 00:28:43,900
THEM TO REPORT HOW THEY SPEND

1058
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:45,266
ANY OF IT.

1059
00:28:45,266 --> 00:28:46,933
AND MANY SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES

1060
00:28:46,933 --> 00:28:47,433
ARE FUNNELING IT TO LAW

1061
00:28:47,433 --> 00:28:48,800
ENFORCEMENT, TOO.

1062
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:49,833
SULLIVAN COUNTY, NEW YORK IS

1063
00:28:49,833 --> 00:28:51,366
USING SOME OF THEIR SETTLEMENT

1064
00:28:51,366 --> 00:28:52,100
FUNDS TO PAY FOR POLICE

1065
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:53,000
OVERTIME.

1066
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,166
OCEANA, WEST VIRGINIA IS USING

1067
00:28:56,166 --> 00:28:57,100
SOME FOR A NEW POLICE CRUISER.

1068
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:57,733
BIBB COUNTY, ALABAMA SPENT OVER

1069
00:28:57,733 --> 00:28:58,600
$120,000 ON TWO NEW CHEVY

1070
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,333
PICKUPS FOR THE SHERIFF'S

1071
00:29:02,333 --> 00:29:03,166
OFFICE, AS WELL AS NEW LIGHTS,

1072
00:29:03,166 --> 00:29:03,766
SIRENS, RADIOS, AND ROADSIDE

1073
00:29:03,766 --> 00:29:04,533
CAMERAS.

1074
00:29:04,533 --> 00:29:05,566
AS FOR BROWNWOOD, TEXAS, IT

1075
00:29:05,566 --> 00:29:06,200
SPENT $15,000 OF ITS SETTLEMENT

1076
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,400
FUNDS TO BUY NINE "BOLAWRAP"

1077
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,366
DEVICES.

1078
00:29:13,366 --> 00:29:13,933
A "BOLAWRAP" IS A RESTRAINT

1079
00:29:13,933 --> 00:29:16,933
DEVICE WHICH FIRES A CORD AROUND

1080
00:29:16,933 --> 00:29:17,300
A SUSPECT.

1081
00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:21,233
AND I COULD DESCRIBE IT TO YOU,

1082
00:29:21,233 --> 00:29:21,800
BUT INSTEAD, I'LL SHOW YOU A

1083
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,733
VIDEO THE COMPANY MADE.

1084
00:29:24,733 --> 00:29:31,800
♪ ♪

1085
00:29:41,766 --> 00:29:48,766
♪ ♪

1086
00:29:51,866 --> 00:29:53,800
John: COOL.

1087
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,233
JUST A SECOND AGO, I THOUGHT

1088
00:29:56,233 --> 00:29:56,833
SIRENS WERE THE LEAST HELPFUL

1089
00:29:56,833 --> 00:29:57,866
THING TO SPEND OPIOID MONEY ON,

1090
00:29:57,866 --> 00:29:59,400
BUT THEN I SAW SOMETHING THAT

1091
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:06,466
BOLAWRAP'S ANOTHER USEFUL TOOL

1092
00:30:08,333 --> 00:30:08,866
FOR COPS TO ADD TO THEIR BELT,

1093
00:30:08,866 --> 00:30:13,900
ALONG WITH A BUNCH OF WAY MORE

1094
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,600
LETHAL TOOLS THEY'LL DEFINITELY

1095
00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:16,066
REACH FOR INSTEAD.

1096
00:30:16,066 --> 00:30:16,633
AND IT'S NOT JUST HIGH-TECH

1097
00:30:16,633 --> 00:30:18,366
LASSOS.

1098
00:30:18,366 --> 00:30:19,400
WE ALSO FOUND MULTIPLE POLICE

1099
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,333
DEPARTMENTS PITCHING LOCAL

1100
00:30:20,333 --> 00:30:24,400
GOVERNMENTS ON BUYING SOMETHING

1101
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:24,900
CALLED THE TRUNARC DRUG

1102
00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:25,533
ANALYZER, ARGUING IT'LL INCREASE

1103
00:30:25,533 --> 00:30:25,900
OFFICER SAFETY.

1104
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:26,533
HERE'S A COP IN KENOSHA COUNTY,

1105
00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:27,133
WISCONSIN, DOING EXACTLY THAT,

1106
00:30:27,133 --> 00:30:27,733
AT A COUNTY FINANCE COMMITTEE

1107
00:30:27,733 --> 00:30:28,166
MEETING.

1108
00:30:28,166 --> 00:30:28,800
SO, WITHOUT HAVING TO OPEN A

1109
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,233
PACKAGE OF A SUSPECTED NARCOTIC,

1110
00:30:30,233 --> 00:30:32,400
WE CAN SHINE THIS-- POINT THIS

1111
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:39,100
EQUIPMENT AT THAT PRODUCT AND IT

1112
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:40,833
WILL TELL US WHAT THE MAKEUP IS

1113
00:30:40,833 --> 00:30:42,100
OF WHATEVER'S INSIDE OF IT.

1114
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:43,766
SO, WE'VE ALL SEEN THE VIDEOS

1115
00:30:43,766 --> 00:30:44,633
OF THE STAFF ALL OVER THE-- LAW

1116
00:30:44,633 --> 00:30:46,666
ENFORCEMENT.

1117
00:30:46,666 --> 00:30:47,500
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY OPENING UP

1118
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,866
A BAG.

1119
00:30:48,966 --> 00:30:50,066
YOU DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE-- AND

1120
00:30:50,066 --> 00:30:53,600
BREATHING IN THAT SUBSTANCE AND

1121
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,600
PASSING OUT.

1122
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,200
THIS FENTANYL IS THAT-- WHAT'S

1123
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,500
THE WORD?

1124
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:01,500
NOT PASSING OUT, ODING.

1125
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:03,000
YEAH, OVERDOSING.

1126
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,400
GOING UNCONSCIOUS, I SHOULD

1127
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,633
SAY, FROM AN OD.

1128
00:31:08,633 --> 00:31:10,033
John: OKAY, FOR THE 10,000th

1129
00:31:10,033 --> 00:31:10,966
TIME.

1130
00:31:10,966 --> 00:31:12,233
IT'S ALL BUT IMPOSSIBLE FOR A

1131
00:31:12,233 --> 00:31:14,633
COP TO JUST ENCOUNTER FENTANYL

1132
00:31:14,633 --> 00:31:15,900
IN THE FIELD AND OVERDOSE.

1133
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:17,533
TO QUOTE ONE EXPERT, "THERE HAS

1134
00:31:17,533 --> 00:31:21,300
NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER,

1135
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:21,900
EVER BEEN A CONFIRMED CASE" OF

1136
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,900
THAT HAPPENING.

1137
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:24,666
THAT'S TWO MORE "NEVER EVERS"

1138
00:31:24,666 --> 00:31:26,266
THAN TAYLOR SWIFT USES FOR

1139
00:31:26,266 --> 00:31:27,433
GETTING BACK TOGETHER.

1140
00:31:27,433 --> 00:31:28,500
SO YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT FUCKING

1141
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:32,800
AROUND.

1142
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,100
BUT AGAIN: THAT ARGUMENT WORKED.

1143
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:34,900
HE SAID "WE NEED THE MAGIC DRUG

1144
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:36,433
FLASHLIGHT," AND THAT WAS GOOD

1145
00:31:36,433 --> 00:31:37,666
ENOUGH FOR THE COUNCIL TO SPEND

1146
00:31:37,666 --> 00:31:39,933
$30,000 ON IT.

1147
00:31:39,933 --> 00:31:40,966
BUT HONESTLY, I DO HAVE SOME

1148
00:31:40,966 --> 00:31:41,766
SYMPATHY FOR THE PEOPLE MAKING

1149
00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:42,133
THESE DECISIONS.

1150
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:44,066
YOU CAN IMAGINE TOWN COUNCILS

1151
00:31:44,066 --> 00:31:46,033
FULL OF MEMBERS WHO FEEL

1152
00:31:46,033 --> 00:31:47,100
ENORMOUS RESPONSIBILITY TO SPEND

1153
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:48,666
THIS MONEY WELL, BUT DON'T KNOW

1154
00:31:48,666 --> 00:31:51,700
WHERE TO START.

1155
00:31:51,700 --> 00:31:52,966
IN THAT SITUATION, IF A POLICE

1156
00:31:52,966 --> 00:31:54,566
OFFICIAL SHOWS UP AND SAYS: GIVE

1157
00:31:54,666 --> 00:31:55,166
IT TO US, WE KNOW WHAT TO DO

1158
00:31:55,166 --> 00:31:57,733
WITH IT," THAT'S ALMOST A

1159
00:31:57,733 --> 00:31:57,966
RELIEF.

1160
00:31:57,966 --> 00:31:59,400
TAKE VIENNA, WEST VIRGINIA-- A

1161
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,500
CITY IN A STATE ABSOLUTELY

1162
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:02,566
HAMMERED BY THE OPIOID CRISIS.

1163
00:32:02,566 --> 00:32:05,266
THEIR COUNCIL WAS APPROACHED BY

1164
00:32:05,266 --> 00:32:05,800
THEIR POLICE CHIEF WITH A

1165
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,300
REQUEST FOR $13,000 FROM THEIR

1166
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:10,866
OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND, TO SPEND

1167
00:32:10,866 --> 00:32:11,466
ON A NEW POLICE DOG, BECAUSE

1168
00:32:11,466 --> 00:32:12,233
THEIR CURRENT ONE WAS GETTING

1169
00:32:12,233 --> 00:32:12,900
OLD.

1170
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:14,566
THE COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY AGREED

1171
00:32:14,566 --> 00:32:16,266
TO IT, EVEN AS ONE MEMBER MADE A

1172
00:32:16,266 --> 00:32:18,766
PRETTY REVEALING COMMENT.

1173
00:32:18,766 --> 00:32:19,300
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME

1174
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:20,300
COUNCIL HAS KIND OF BEEN

1175
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:21,100
INFORMED THAT WE'VE EVEN

1176
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:23,433
RECEIVED THOSE FUNDS.

1177
00:32:23,433 --> 00:32:25,866
I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE HOW WE'RE

1178
00:32:25,866 --> 00:32:26,500
GOING TO USE THE REST OF IT, BUT

1179
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:29,066
WE SHOULD DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW,

1180
00:32:29,066 --> 00:32:32,666
HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.

1181
00:32:32,666 --> 00:32:33,566
NOT THAT THIS ISN'T A GOOD NEED.

1182
00:32:33,566 --> 00:32:34,166
BUT I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT

1183
00:32:34,166 --> 00:32:41,233
MONEY GET WHITTLED AWAY.

1184
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,066
$13,000-$15,000 AT A TIME

1185
00:32:45,066 --> 00:32:45,700
WITHOUT BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT

1186
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:46,766
THE IMPACT THIS MONEY COULD HAVE

1187
00:32:46,766 --> 00:32:47,266
FOR THE CITY OF VIENNA.

1188
00:32:47,266 --> 00:32:47,633
John: RIGHT.

1189
00:32:47,633 --> 00:32:48,233
WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR

1190
00:32:48,233 --> 00:32:48,833
YOUR MONEY, IT CAN BE EASY TO

1191
00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:50,933
SPEND IT IN A THOUGHTLESS WAY.

1192
00:32:50,933 --> 00:32:51,566
IT'S A LOT HARDER TO BREAK INTO

1193
00:32:51,566 --> 00:32:52,466
YOUR SAVINGS WHEN IT'S LABELED

1194
00:32:52,466 --> 00:32:53,033
"COLLEGE FUND" AND NOT "HOLY

1195
00:32:53,033 --> 00:32:53,633
SHIT LOOK AT ALL THIS FREE JAR

1196
00:32:53,633 --> 00:32:59,766
MONEY."

1197
00:32:59,866 --> 00:33:00,600
AND THAT IMPULSE OF NOT WANTING

1198
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:01,200
THE SETTLEMENT TO BE WHITTLED

1199
00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:01,833
AWAY WITHOUT SERIOUS THOUGHT, IS

1200
00:33:01,933 --> 00:33:02,166
A GOOD ONE.

1201
00:33:02,166 --> 00:33:05,400
BUT HERE'S THE THING-- JUST

1202
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,033
THREE MONTHS LATER, THE SAME GUY

1203
00:33:06,033 --> 00:33:07,566
RETURNED TO THAT ROOM, TO SHOW

1204
00:33:07,566 --> 00:33:08,200
OFF PHOTOS OF THE NEW POLICE DOG

1205
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,800
THEY'D BOUGHT, AND MAKE A NEW

1206
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,300
REQUEST.

1207
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:13,933
AND HERE'S THE MAYOR ANNOUNCING

1208
00:33:13,933 --> 00:33:17,700
THAT REQUEST TO THE COUNCIL.

1209
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:20,000
THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA

1210
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,500
THIS EVENING IS TO AUTHORIZE THE

1211
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,766
PURCHASE OF TWO MIDSIZED OR

1212
00:33:24,766 --> 00:33:28,600
FULL-SIZED SUVs FOR THE POLICE

1213
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,100
DEPARTMENT USING THE OPIOID

1214
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:31,466
SETTLEMENT FUND

1215
00:33:31,466 --> 00:33:31,766
John: NO!

1216
00:33:31,766 --> 00:33:32,100
DON'T DO IT!

1217
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:35,966
THE POLICE ALREADY HAVE MULTIPLE

1218
00:33:36,066 --> 00:33:36,633
FUNDING SOURCES THEY COULD USE

1219
00:33:36,633 --> 00:33:37,133
FOR CARS.

1220
00:33:37,133 --> 00:33:37,800
WE ARE CONSTANTLY THROWING MONEY

1221
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,033
AT THEM.

1222
00:33:38,033 --> 00:33:38,800
THEY'RE BASICALLY YOUR RICH

1223
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:45,866
FRIEND THAT VENMO REQUESTS YOU

1224
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,366
$2.45 AFTER SPLITTING A POPCORN

1225
00:33:48,366 --> 00:33:48,700
AT THE MOVIES.

1226
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:49,333
TRISTYN, THIS WOULD BE UNHINGED

1227
00:33:49,333 --> 00:33:49,966
BEHAVIOR EVEN IF YOUR MOM'S NAME

1228
00:33:49,966 --> 00:33:50,500
WASN'T BLUE ON WIKIPEDIA.

1229
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:51,033
NOW, TO THEIR CREDIT-- A

1230
00:33:51,033 --> 00:33:53,033
COUNCIL MEMBER SPOKE UP AGAIN,

1231
00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:53,633
TO EXPRESS RESERVATIONS ABOUT

1232
00:33:53,633 --> 00:33:54,266
HOW LITTLE CONSIDERATION SEEMED

1233
00:33:54,266 --> 00:33:54,866
TO BE GOING INTO HOW THEY WERE

1234
00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:57,700
SPENDING THIS MONEY.

1235
00:33:57,700 --> 00:33:58,300
I THINK WE NEED TO SIT DOWN

1236
00:33:58,300 --> 00:33:59,066
AND HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION

1237
00:33:59,066 --> 00:34:00,366
ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH

1238
00:34:00,366 --> 00:34:01,566
THIS MONEY AND GET MORE VOICES

1239
00:34:01,566 --> 00:34:03,233
AT THE TABLE.

1240
00:34:03,233 --> 00:34:04,500
OBVIOUSLY, YES, WE'RE GOING TO

1241
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:05,700
TAKE CARE OF THE POLICE

1242
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:08,100
DEPARTMENT IN THE WAYS THAT WE

1243
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,266
CAN, BUT IT'S A BIGGER THING.

1244
00:34:09,366 --> 00:34:09,900
IT'S ABOUT PREVENTION, AND WE

1245
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:11,300
WANT TO SEE THAT THOSE

1246
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:12,966
PREVENTION DOLLARS FILTER INTO

1247
00:34:12,966 --> 00:34:15,433
OUR COMMUNITY.

1248
00:34:15,433 --> 00:34:16,300
I THINK THAT, COUNCIL, WE JUST

1249
00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:17,033
NEED TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER

1250
00:34:17,033 --> 00:34:20,300
AND HAVE SOME TIME TO FIGURE OUT

1251
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:21,300
HOW WE'RE GOING TO DIRECT THAT

1252
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:22,000
MONEY MOST EFFECTIVELY AND

1253
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,533
EFFICIENTLY.

1254
00:34:22,533 --> 00:34:23,466
John: EXACTLY!

1255
00:34:23,466 --> 00:34:24,400
AND THAT WAS ONLY SLIGHTLY

1256
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,000
UNDERMINED BY THE FACT THAT JUST

1257
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,400
TEN SECONDS AFTER SHE WAS DONE

1258
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,200
SPEAKING, THE COUNCIL VOTED

1259
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:35,233
UNANIMOUSLY TO SPEND THE MONEY

1260
00:34:35,233 --> 00:34:36,033
ON THE SUVs ANYWAY.

1261
00:34:36,033 --> 00:34:36,466
WHICH IS MADDENING.

1262
00:34:36,466 --> 00:34:37,100
EVEN OPRAH WOULD WATCH THAT AND

1263
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:37,666
THINK, "HEY, GUYS, YOU CAN'T

1264
00:34:37,666 --> 00:34:39,266
JUST GIVE PEOPLE CARS THAT WAY!"

1265
00:34:39,266 --> 00:34:40,733
BECAUSE THE SAD TRUTH IS, EVEN

1266
00:34:40,833 --> 00:34:45,066
IF EVERY PENNY FROM THIS

1267
00:34:45,066 --> 00:34:45,700
SETTLEMENT DID GO TO ALLEVIATING

1268
00:34:45,700 --> 00:34:46,300
THE OPIOID CRISIS, IT'D STILL

1269
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:47,166
JUST BE SCRATCHING THE SURFACE.

1270
00:34:47,166 --> 00:34:49,333
BUT ANYTIME YOU WATCH THE MONEY

1271
00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:50,266
GO TOWARD POLICING DRUG USERS

1272
00:34:50,266 --> 00:34:53,433
INSTEAD OF HELPING THEM, IT JUST

1273
00:34:53,433 --> 00:34:54,300
FEELS LIKE ADDING INSULT TO

1274
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:55,433
INJURY-- ESPECIALLY TO

1275
00:34:55,433 --> 00:34:56,900
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, WHO ARE SO

1276
00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:58,766
USED TO BEING OVER-POLICED AND

1277
00:34:58,766 --> 00:34:59,833
UNDER-SERVED.

1278
00:34:59,833 --> 00:35:01,300
SO, WHAT CAN WE DO?

1279
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:01,900
WELL, AGAIN, THE GOOD NEWS IS,

1280
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:04,700
WE'RE STILL PRETTY CLOSE TO THE

1281
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:07,866
BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS.

1282
00:35:07,866 --> 00:35:09,300
SO WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN

1283
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:11,566
CHANGE THE ARC OF THIS STORY.

1284
00:35:11,566 --> 00:35:12,500
AND THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THAT.

1285
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:13,466
FOR INSTANCE, STATES CAN DECIDE

1286
00:35:13,566 --> 00:35:14,066
WHAT COUNTS AS AN ALLOWABLE

1287
00:35:14,066 --> 00:35:14,633
EXPENSE.

1288
00:35:14,633 --> 00:35:15,200
CALIFORNIA HAS SAID THAT LOCAL

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00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:16,633
GOVERNMENTS MAY NOT USE MONEY

1290
00:35:16,633 --> 00:35:17,166
FROM THE ABATEMENT FUND TO

1291
00:35:17,166 --> 00:35:20,900
PURCHASE MANY OF THE LAW

1292
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:21,466
ENFORCEMENT TOYS YOU'VE SEEN

1293
00:35:21,466 --> 00:35:22,000
TONIGHT.

1294
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,500
THEY EVEN PUT OUT A LIST

1295
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:23,066
EXPLICITLY STATING THE MONEY

1296
00:35:23,066 --> 00:35:23,700
CAN'T BE SPENT ON K9s, BOLAWRAP,

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00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:25,700
OR THE TRUNARC ANALYZER.

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00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:29,400
STATES COULD ALSO BE MORE

1299
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,600
TRANSPARENT ABOUT HOW THEY'RE

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00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,400
SPENDING THEIR FUNDS.

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00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,266
AND SOME ARE DOING A GOOD JOB OF

1302
00:35:36,266 --> 00:35:36,466
THAT.

1303
00:35:36,466 --> 00:35:37,200
NORTH CAROLINA AND COLORADO ARE

1304
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:37,933
CURRENTLY THE GOLD STANDARD,

1305
00:35:37,933 --> 00:35:39,433
WITH EACH HAVING ONLINE PORTALS

1306
00:35:39,433 --> 00:35:41,133
PROVIDING UP TO DATE INFORMATION

1307
00:35:41,133 --> 00:35:45,666
ON WHERE THEIR MONEY'S GOING.

1308
00:35:45,666 --> 00:35:46,433
BUT IT'S CLEARLY NOT ENOUGH FOR

1309
00:35:46,433 --> 00:35:47,100
THE DECISIONS TO BE TRANSPARENT.

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00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,900
THEY ALSO HAVE TO BE GOOD.

1311
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,066
THERE ARE TOOLS THAT WE KNOW

1312
00:35:50,066 --> 00:35:51,433
WORK HERE, AND THEY NEED TO BE

1313
00:35:51,433 --> 00:35:57,033
FUNDED FROM THIS SETTLEMENT AS

1314
00:35:57,033 --> 00:35:57,833
ADDITIONAL SPENDING, NOT JUST

1315
00:35:57,833 --> 00:35:58,466
SWAPPING OUT ONE FUNDING STREAM

1316
00:35:58,466 --> 00:35:58,766
FOR ANOTHER.

1317
00:35:58,766 --> 00:35:59,400
AND FOR THE FINAL TIME-- THERE

1318
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,366
ARE PLACES SPENDING IT WISELY,

1319
00:36:01,366 --> 00:36:02,000
ON PROVEN TOOLS THAT HAVE A REAL

1320
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,800
IMPACT.

1321
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,433
BUT THERE ARE OTHER PLACES THAT

1322
00:36:05,433 --> 00:36:08,166
JUST AREN'T.

1323
00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:08,800
AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING "WHICH

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00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,566
PLACE DO I LIVE IN?"

1325
00:36:09,566 --> 00:36:13,366
YOU MAY NEED TO FIND OUT.

1326
00:36:13,366 --> 00:36:14,233
AND THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, CAN

1327
00:36:14,233 --> 00:36:15,233
MEAN SHOWING UP IN SMALL ROOMS

1328
00:36:15,233 --> 00:36:16,233
LIKE THE ONES YOU'VE SEEN

1329
00:36:16,233 --> 00:36:17,933
TONIGHT, ASKING QUESTIONS AND

1330
00:36:17,933 --> 00:36:19,733
ADVOCATING FOR REAL SOLUTIONS.

1331
00:36:19,733 --> 00:36:21,400
AND IF SOMEONE IN THAT ROOM

1332
00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:23,133
SUGGESTS SPENDING THE MONEY ON

1333
00:36:23,133 --> 00:36:25,800
ROPE-JIZZING GUNS, OR NEW

1334
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,133
SIRENS, OR, GOD-FORBID, FILLING

1335
00:36:28,133 --> 00:36:29,200
A POTHOLE, TELL THEM NO.

1336
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,266
BECAUSE, AS I BELIEVE THIS HUMAN

1337
00:36:31,266 --> 00:36:33,000
STATUE OF LIBERTY ONCE SAID,

1338
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,633
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS MONEY IS

1339
00:36:34,633 --> 00:36:35,666
FOR.

1340
00:36:35,666 --> 00:36:37,533
AND NOW THIS.

1341
00:36:37,533 --> 00:36:44,133
Announcer: AND NOW,

1342
00:36:44,133 --> 00:36:47,266
PEOPLE ON TV SHARE HEARTWARMING

1343
00:36:47,266 --> 00:36:47,800
MEMORIES OF THEIR MOTHERS.

1344
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,600
MY MOM WOULD GET IN FIGHTS AT

1345
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,533
RESTAURANTS THAT WHEN IT ALLOWED

1346
00:36:51,533 --> 00:36:53,866
CHILDREN AND SHE SAID MY

1347
00:36:53,866 --> 00:36:55,466
CHILDREN ARE BETTER BEHAVED THAN

1348
00:36:55,466 --> 00:36:58,533
MOST OF YOUR DINNER.

1349
00:36:58,533 --> 00:36:59,766
IT NEVER PROPERLY DRESSED AND

1350
00:36:59,766 --> 00:37:00,900
SHE'D FIGHT UNTIL THEY LET THEM

1351
00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:01,266
IN.

1352
00:37:01,266 --> 00:37:04,466
MY MOM USED TO LOOK AT ME IN

1353
00:37:04,466 --> 00:37:05,066
THE CAR RANDOMLY.

1354
00:37:05,066 --> 00:37:05,700
SHE'D BE SMOKING AND THEN SHE

1355
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:09,333
WOULD LOOK AT ME AND THEN GO,

1356
00:37:09,333 --> 00:37:10,366
DON'T BE CHEAP.

1357
00:37:10,366 --> 00:37:12,633
I REMEMBER MY MOM BEING LIKE

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00:37:12,633 --> 00:37:15,966
CAN I JUST SEE HERE IN PEACE FOR

1359
00:37:15,966 --> 00:37:16,233
5 MINUTES?

1360
00:37:16,233 --> 00:37:18,133
BUT SHE WOULD GO AND HIDE IN THE

1361
00:37:18,133 --> 00:37:18,866
BATHROOM.

1362
00:37:18,866 --> 00:37:20,066
I REMEMBER MY MOM TELLING ME

1363
00:37:20,066 --> 00:37:21,900
BEFORE I WAS MARRIED, DON'T

1364
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:23,900
THINK I'M GOING TO RAISE YOUR

1365
00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:25,133
CHILDREN BECAUSE I'M NOT.

1366
00:37:25,133 --> 00:37:26,966
MY MOM HAD TO TELL ME EVER SINCE

1367
00:37:27,066 --> 00:37:28,566
I WAS A LITTLE GIRL, SHE USED "A

1368
00:37:28,666 --> 00:37:30,966
SONG THAT YOU TALK TOO MUCH, YOU

1369
00:37:30,966 --> 00:37:34,733
NEVER SHUT UP.

1370
00:37:34,733 --> 00:37:37,066
BUT AGAIN, SHE WAS FAMILY.

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00:37:37,066 --> 00:37:39,333
MY MOM USED TO CALL ME A

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00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:39,533
LEECH.

1373
00:37:39,533 --> 00:37:41,400
IT LIKE YOU'RE ALWAYS ON ME,

1374
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,300
NEAR ME, LIKE YOUR LITTLE LEECH.

1375
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:46,500
I'D SAY LET'S GET DOWN TO

1376
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:48,466
BRASS TACKS.

1377
00:37:48,466 --> 00:37:49,966
IF YOU CAN'T TOUCH HER HEART,

1378
00:37:49,966 --> 00:37:52,300
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE HER

1379
00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:53,733
THAT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET

1380
00:37:53,733 --> 00:37:56,600
NEAR HER

1381
00:37:59,866 --> 00:38:00,300
John: THAT'S OUT SHOW.

1382
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:00,933
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.

1383
00:38:01,033 --> 00:38:01,766
WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

1384
00:38:01,866 --> 00:38:06,233
GOOD NIGHT!

1385
00:38:06,233 --> 00:38:11,366
DID IT AGAIN!

1386
00:38:11,366 --> 00:38:13,300
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:14,200
♪ ♪